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misty urchin Sep 8, 2024, 11:59 PM

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VERY new to uu in general, tried making something that resembles balance

proven parrotBOT Sep 8, 2024, 11:59 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

fiery tundra Sep 11, 2024, 12:57 AM

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Doubles UU

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bold idol Sep 11, 2024, 4:59 PM

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fiery tundra Doubles UU

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prisma sparrow Sep 12, 2024, 6:07 PM

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https://pokepast.es/e0b8fc557f63bbbb

proven parrotBOT Sep 12, 2024, 6:07 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

pure jasper Sep 12, 2024, 10:59 PM

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prisma sparrow https://pokepast.es/e0b8fc557f63bbbb

UU rates
Goes in
5 non UU mons

???

abstract basin Sep 12, 2024, 11:17 PM

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pure jasper UU rates Goes in 5 non UU mons ???

clearly anti meta team smh

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there all slept on

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nvm it’s ho with 2 scarfers

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it’s that hidden ho tech

weary tapir Sep 17, 2024, 6:55 PM

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Hi. Is this for gen9 uu?

pure jasper Sep 17, 2024, 11:26 PM

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weary tapir Hi. Is this for gen9 uu?

Yes

calm maple Sep 18, 2024, 2:57 PM

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https://pokepast.es/2f0868692072db14

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toedscruel is pretty much just to cteam sinistcha xd

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i might replace hydro pump with knock off

crimson sedge Sep 18, 2024, 8:25 PM

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Any tips for improving my gen3 UU team?

https://pokepast.es/b2bb6a68b3dd498f

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I'm kinda a noob and im facing off against my sensei who taught me showdown in 30 mins

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and I want to improve my team before then

crimson sedge Sep 18, 2024, 8:48 PM

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pls

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nvm i asked chatgpt

elder wing Sep 19, 2024, 12:04 AM

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crimson sedge Any tips for improving my gen3 UU team? https://pokepast.es/b2bb6a68b3dd498f

This chat is for gen 9 uu, nit sure what the correct one is but try https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1060339824537641152

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Also chatgpt is ass

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Also the uu team raters are like dead or smth I haven't seen them respond to anything

pure jasper Sep 19, 2024, 12:25 AM

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calm maple toedscruel is pretty much just to cteam sinistcha xd

Sinischa just sets up in your face

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Then clicks shadow ball at +6

calm maple Sep 19, 2024, 1:03 AM

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pure jasper Sinischa just sets up in your face

takes like 60% from knock off chip then

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and i kill it with another mon

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sinistcha kinda doesnt do shit without strength sap

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also i did switch to knock off

pure jasper Sep 19, 2024, 2:02 AM

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calm maple takes like 60% from knock off chip then

You don’t even have knock off

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Bruva

calm maple Sep 19, 2024, 2:28 AM

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calm maple also i did switch to knock off

^^

calm maple Sep 19, 2024, 2:28 AM

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calm maple i might replace hydro pump with knock off

^^

tribal laurel Sep 25, 2024, 2:01 AM

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calm maple https://pokepast.es/2f0868692072db14

sinistcha still beats it... u have no way to touch it, even if you did you dont do much to it and im 90% sure shadow ball does enough
i think 4 attacks ogerpon-c is better than teal, if u plan to use tenta then just take advantage of the fact you spread a lot of status and disturbance against the opponents walls
i think bond gren is smth that may work but u prob want ice beam for av torn-t but i prefer specs to just not wear urself down esp with no removal
I like my rhyperior ot outrun the hydrapple whihc allows me to slam it with 2 megahorns
This sciz is 100% owned by zapdos, rotom-wash, mandibuzz, dirge, pex, etc and i feel like sciz and ogerpon-teal want to play the longer game while gren wants to play fast idk...

static pumice Sep 25, 2024, 12:40 PM

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I like building creative teams with fun pokemon, I'm not the best at properly competitive builds so lmk

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Gen 5 UU

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https://pokepast.es/96d343a07f1c7b4c

static pumice Sep 25, 2024, 1:13 PM

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And doubles OU

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https://pokepast.es/a8e9f75eec73a104

pure jasper Sep 25, 2024, 10:51 PM

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Wrong channel

coral canopy Sep 26, 2024, 7:54 PM

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Is this any good?
https://pokepast.es/b5bc583893613139

proven parrotBOT Sep 26, 2024, 7:54 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

coral canopy Sep 26, 2024, 8:02 PM

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Have never played anything besides lc

tribal laurel Sep 27, 2024, 12:37 PM

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This feels like ho but isn't but with a mew lead it's hard to see another direction

If it was a slowking and u made the enam boots it maybe can work

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The thing is kix with rocks looks annoying asf so does rhyoeriro

peak wasp Sep 28, 2024, 12:56 AM

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https://pokepast.es/74aca9b5ac0e60e7
I've been laddering recently and managed to make my way to Top 100 on ladder with my Sand Team and I just want to see what changes can be made

proven parrotBOT Sep 28, 2024, 12:57 AM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

pure jasper Sep 28, 2024, 12:58 AM

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this one isnt lokix food

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the world is recovering

peak wasp Sep 28, 2024, 12:58 AM

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I really like Okidogi + Serperior

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They both struggle with Skeledirge but Tera Rock Serp lets it beat Dirge & Fliers still

pure jasper Sep 28, 2024, 12:59 AM

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dirge could tera asw

peak wasp Sep 28, 2024, 1:00 AM

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Yeah

pure jasper Sep 28, 2024, 1:00 AM

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but uh thats one thing i see, and torch song goes through sub

peak wasp Sep 28, 2024, 1:00 AM

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But that's Gen 9

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As a whole

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If it's Tera Fairy that really only makes it worse against Okidogi

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EVs on Tyranitar Outspeed Defensive Tinkaton without Speed and can get Rocks or Paralysis off on it

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3 Attacks + Glare Serperior is probably my favorite set just cause I like having a 2nd Attack that I don't need to burn Tera With

foggy swallow Sep 28, 2024, 5:53 AM

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yeah i think tornadus over the cornerstone would be good additions

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av torn

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also i think ttar should probably be leftovers

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and serp should be tera electric

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consider a hydrapple over the serperior

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and perhaps loaded dice rock blast tera rock drill

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ideally this would be tar rotom apple torn exca dogi imo

peak wasp Sep 28, 2024, 3:43 PM

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foggy swallow consider a hydrapple over the serperior

I kinda hate using Hydrapple

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And I like having Speed that isn't weather or Scarf dependent

peak wasp Sep 28, 2024, 3:46 PM

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foggy swallow av torn

I'll try Torn out. It feels to good not to use as a check for other Okidogi's

peak wasp Sep 28, 2024, 3:47 PM

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foggy swallow and perhaps loaded dice rock blast tera rock drill

This set is so real. I hate using Rock Slide just cause it feels like shit but Loaded Dice Rock Blast doesn't sound bad

pure jasper Oct 1, 2024, 8:28 PM

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https://pokepast.es/33a8dca950a6d40a

guys how do I not get owned by the B rank rock fire type

proven parrotBOT Oct 1, 2024, 8:28 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

pure jasper Oct 1, 2024, 8:29 PM

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I just looked at the Vr rankings and thundy is A rank? I recall it being c back then lmao

foggy swallow Oct 1, 2024, 8:29 PM

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you also get owned by the s rank flying type

pure jasper Oct 1, 2024, 8:29 PM

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So many things changed, harcanine is B is also crazy

pure jasper Oct 1, 2024, 8:29 PM

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foggy swallow you also get owned by the s rank flying type

Tornadus?

foggy swallow Oct 1, 2024, 8:29 PM

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i think rotom would be a wise addition

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ye

pure jasper Oct 1, 2024, 8:29 PM

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Hmmmm, where tho

pure jasper Oct 1, 2024, 8:31 PM

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foggy swallow i think rotom would be a wise addition

Who do I replace tho?

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Skarm is one of the things I wanna keep

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Or at the very least until weavile gets the banhammer

foggy swallow Oct 1, 2024, 8:32 PM

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idk prob mandi

pure jasper Oct 1, 2024, 8:32 PM

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Hm k

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Makes sense

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Lemme do it rq

foggy swallow Oct 1, 2024, 8:32 PM

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you have double hazard removal

pure jasper Oct 1, 2024, 8:32 PM

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For my two hazard weak mons I guess

hidden monolith Oct 1, 2024, 8:35 PM

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https://pokepast.es/bb5548e3a7965ace

first team after tier changes, gapdos is back babyyyyyy (was it ever good before or was i just coping before lol)

peak wasp Oct 1, 2024, 9:42 PM

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Man these sure are tier drops

vast forum Oct 1, 2024, 10:35 PM

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https://pokepast.es/3523fdfdee0cbab7

Considering the new Hoopa drop, I decided to teambuild in UU for once.

Team is simple. 2 breakers (hoopa physical and latios special), and a bunch of pivoting mons to get them in, all with regen for longevity (slowking, tornadus and cyclizar), also a tink for rocks and dealing with lokix + weavile.

Apart from tink, this team struggles with Weavile, but it feels good.
Cyclizar is here foe taunt and spin, as well as knocks for scarfers.
Slowking is physically defensive because
A: default set
B: takes on +2 excadrill and scalds on it

Also its generally tanky on either side and uses paralysis to make the breakers jobs easier
Abother big trouble foe the team usually is steels

I'm no UU expert so it might be bad but I think its a fair shot.

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Its a lot of default sets but ita nice.

Heatran is a problem simetimes

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Speedtiers on hoopa and cyclizar are for 88 speed excadrill (maybe should bump it to beat 92 speed lokix) and serperior respectively

pure jasper Oct 2, 2024, 1:37 AM

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vast forum https://pokepast.es/3523fdfdee0cbab7 Considering the new Hoopa drop, I decided ...

Your only lokix switchin is think

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Tink

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Weavile can chip down tink

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And after that your whole team falls to lokix

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Rip

plain phoenix Oct 2, 2024, 5:49 AM

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Tried to cook a team now after all the drops to uu boot spam, balance hazard team
https://pokepast.es/a910bd90a54fc42c
sinistcha as spin blocker
Im wondering if i should swap stealth rock from clodsire to heatran so clodsire can do amnesia, also i dont know how useful will o wisp is
Ive got ogerpon as late game cleaner but i wonder if theres another better late game cleaner

vast forum Oct 2, 2024, 11:39 AM

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pure jasper And after that your whole team falls to lokix

Yeah, pretty much. Teras do help with that. Its weird to use both lokix AND weavile on the same team tho so there'a that.

It messes up both individually pretty well, thing is if they're together which I feel is pretty uncommon

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Worst case scebario tera fairy glowking can clutch vs both

fickle sonnet Oct 2, 2024, 2:44 PM

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https://pokepast.es/168f9b436965f939 Greninja Bulky Offense Team

proven parrotBOT Oct 2, 2024, 2:44 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

plain phoenix Oct 2, 2024, 6:28 PM

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plain phoenix Tried to cook a team now after all the drops to uu boot spam, balance hazard tea...

https://pokepast.es/e7bbd3c4944439b8 changed ogerpon for greninja

pure jasper Oct 2, 2024, 8:47 PM

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fickle sonnet https://pokepast.es/168f9b436965f939 Greninja Bulky Offense Team

Weavile food galore, tink isn’t gonna last forever checking it

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Also you need more speed control than just water shuriken

plain phoenix Oct 2, 2024, 8:59 PM

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plain phoenix https://pokepast.es/e7bbd3c4944439b8 changed ogerpon for greninja

@trim snowwell

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Im wondering if i should swap stealth rock from clodsire to heatran so clodsire can do amnesia, also i dont know how useful will o wisp is

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greninja as pseudo late game cleaner? and should i change heatran for latios

pure jasper Oct 2, 2024, 9:04 PM

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plain phoenix Im wondering if i should swap stealth rock from clodsire to heatran so clodsire ...

Amnesia clod is only good on stall, right?

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Because idk if it’s good outside of stall

plain phoenix Oct 2, 2024, 9:05 PM

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ok thanks

fickle sonnet Oct 2, 2024, 9:19 PM

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pure jasper Also you need more speed control than just water shuriken

I’m not running water shuriken, but should I add it over sludge wave?

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I could also swap out Excadrill for Scizor, would that work?

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2 Pokemon to deal with Weavile

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Plus more speed control

fickle sonnet Oct 2, 2024, 10:30 PM

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fickle sonnet I could also swap out Excadrill for Scizor, would that work?

Actually, I think Arcanine might work better

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Hard counter to Weavile, plus fire type stab and speed control

hidden monolith Oct 2, 2024, 10:47 PM

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what arcanine are you running that's a hard counter to weavile?

fickle sonnet Oct 2, 2024, 10:56 PM

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Oh I just thought that the typing would make it easily a counter to weavile

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Would it not?

hidden monolith Oct 2, 2024, 11:45 PM

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Well it takes triple axel okay, but doesnt like taking knock off, also do you mean hisuian arcanine or normal arcanine, either way after it has been knocked off once it is taking hazard damage, and hisuian arcanine is weak to low kick

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It may be able to check weavile, but not hard counter it, bc it gets worn down quickly, doesnr like taking knock off and falls to a boosted weavile after only a little chip

fickle sonnet Oct 3, 2024, 12:37 AM

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Ahh I see

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What would be a good Weavile counter then?

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Should I opt for Heatran over Tinkaton?

kind jolt Oct 3, 2024, 4:21 AM

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pokepast.es/d56999879f494225

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would appreciate any help i can get whenever anyone has the time

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i made some adjuustments on the team from before on smogon with a few conversations

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hoping to keep all 6 mons but if the meta needs a change for my squad thats okay

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showdown not smogon i apologize

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working on Evs now trying to get the most out of them currently

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also question

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wouldnt the steller tera type only be good with specs scarf and choice users

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with 4 different move types

fickle sonnet Oct 3, 2024, 2:46 PM

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https://pokepast.es/fd586c0e708806b1 revamped my Greninja BO team from yesterday

proven parrotBOT Oct 3, 2024, 2:46 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

fickle sonnet Oct 3, 2024, 2:46 PM

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Changed Thundrus to Rotom-W to have a better matchup into Weavile

delicate crypt Oct 3, 2024, 3:47 PM

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https://pokepast.es/9498ebc37bf08a72 skarmbliss 2 av pivots double quag

pure jasper Oct 3, 2024, 10:13 PM

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delicate crypt https://pokepast.es/9498ebc37bf08a72 skarmbliss 2 av pivots double quag

ogerpon cornerstone might just be a lot for you to handle...

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just a little chip is needed for tera rock ivy cudgel to nuke everything

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be careful of SD

delicate crypt Oct 3, 2024, 10:24 PM

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pure jasper ogerpon cornerstone might just be a lot for you to handle...

Yeah i put in chesnaught for this over skarm and now I've been running phys gastrodon over quag with mixed clod. It's been great

delicate crypt Oct 3, 2024, 11:09 PM

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Nvm every corner I've faced is now sd zen

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And every comf is taunt cm Terablast drain kiss

fallow acorn Oct 4, 2024, 12:54 AM

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https://pokepast.es/61c61a918ede81e8

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am i able to make this team even better? its been pretty good but im weak to grass types and also im using it in OU, i dont want any OU mon and also i am unable to type in SVOU rates so

pure jasper Oct 5, 2024, 1:21 AM

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fallow acorn https://pokepast.es/61c61a918ede81e8

Why are you using it on Ou

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Like seriously why

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You had the chance to use a viable no Ou mon team back before moltres rose but you can’t now

fallow acorn Oct 5, 2024, 3:52 AM

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because i feel like it?

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lol

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still having fun and its helping me learn more about team building

low summit Oct 5, 2024, 5:36 AM

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I’ll admit I’m not very familiar with the Uu meta but ima give it a shot

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I’m building around talonflame cuz I saw a form post mention it does a lot of work in the spikes meta rn

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Good matchup vs scizor skarmort weavile cobalion lokix

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didnt completely adjust evs btw

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yet

low summit Oct 5, 2024, 7:13 AM

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https://pokepast.es/c3470305078fbbb6

cinder osprey Oct 5, 2024, 7:18 AM

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https://pokepast.es/0a5d0b9121fbeb67
band weavile is pretty fire

proven parrotBOT Oct 5, 2024, 7:18 AM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

cinder osprey Oct 5, 2024, 7:18 AM

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lacking a solid hoopa answer rn

pure jasper Oct 6, 2024, 1:55 AM

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cinder osprey https://pokepast.es/0a5d0b9121fbeb67 band weavile is pretty fire

no defensive counterplay to rockpon

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also be careful of bb gren

cinder osprey Oct 6, 2024, 1:56 AM

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my counterplay to cornerpon is to smoke it with weav before it smokes me back

pure jasper Oct 6, 2024, 2:02 AM

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~~thats not defensive counterplay but ok~~

cinder osprey Oct 6, 2024, 2:03 AM

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i’ve built like 4 teams recently so its a bit hard to keep track of

low summit Oct 6, 2024, 2:26 AM

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low summit https://pokepast.es/c3470305078fbbb6

can someone look at my team draft if they have time?

spice ivy Oct 6, 2024, 2:47 AM

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cinder osprey my counterplay to cornerpon is to smoke it with weav before it smokes me back

Good offensive counterplay has to mean that you can consistently prevent a threatening pokémon from getting on the field often, not that you have one pokémon that can KO it. Being able to revenge kill stuff is good, but unless you're going for hyper offense, you need some sort of ability to switch into a pokémon as common as rock pon

cinder osprey Oct 6, 2024, 2:53 AM

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i do have another team
it features dogi so maybe that works

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https://pokepast.es/160f8ec39c8c5e1c

proven parrotBOT Oct 6, 2024, 2:55 AM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

hollow talon Oct 6, 2024, 12:19 PM

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https://pokepast.es/89d28ae543056471 lil rain team i made

proven parrotBOT Oct 6, 2024, 12:19 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

wind horizon Oct 7, 2024, 3:25 PM

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https://pokepast.es/b820a0240c6fb874
ight do rate my doubles** sunflora shenanigans

low summit Oct 7, 2024, 4:08 PM

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sunflora is unusable

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great tusk and blaziken arent event uu

wind horizon Oct 7, 2024, 4:11 PM

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low summit great tusk and blaziken arent event uu

*shoulda specified doubles

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also sunflora is god tier idk what u mean :3

low summit Oct 7, 2024, 4:12 PM

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oh

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i dont play doubles so i cant really comment

wind horizon Oct 7, 2024, 4:13 PM

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i would never run scary face thundurus in singles

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ew

foggy swallow Oct 7, 2024, 10:03 PM

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wrong place for doubles teams

pure jasper Oct 7, 2024, 10:06 PM

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and wrong place for sunflora

low summit Oct 7, 2024, 11:23 PM

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https://pokepast.es/df0f6e5db34dd3ad

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heatran bulky offense v2

pure jasper Oct 7, 2024, 11:38 PM

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not lokix food this time

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good

pure jasper Oct 7, 2024, 11:38 PM

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low summit https://pokepast.es/df0f6e5db34dd3ad

anyways weavilr answer where

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weavile

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scarf okidogi isnt gonna be able to beat it forever

low summit Oct 8, 2024, 12:34 AM

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flame body heatran

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i swapped flash fire on heatran

foggy swallow Oct 8, 2024, 1:51 AM

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i forgot to mention this in the uucord but

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you should make heatran bulkier

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maybe 244 hp 96+ spa 168 speed

low summit Oct 8, 2024, 2:03 AM

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what are the given evs for?

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speed creep and why 96 spa specifically

foggy swallow Oct 8, 2024, 5:45 AM

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96+ is a jump point

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the speed is for adamant scizor

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with some extra creep

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the hp is a lefties number

wind horizon Oct 8, 2024, 7:18 PM

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pure jasper and wrong place for sunflora

im taking that personally

woven isle Oct 14, 2024, 1:03 AM

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https://pokepast.es/36327523f6da1bdb

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terrakion beat up with supports+cleanup

twilit arrow Oct 14, 2024, 3:14 AM

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https://pokepast.es/d952374ada92ac68 sand hazard stack with skarm, anyway to improve the serperior matchup without too many drawbacks?

proven parrotBOT Oct 14, 2024, 3:14 AM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

strange charm Oct 14, 2024, 10:14 PM

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I was just wondering if I could get suggestions on my team: https://pokepast.es/a44259a8a98e9e76

proven parrotBOT Oct 14, 2024, 10:14 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

pure jasper Oct 15, 2024, 6:24 AM

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https://pokepast.es/7c1d3e87061d2b90
chat am i ready for my third or 4 th suspect? (we dont talk about thundy)

proven parrotBOT Oct 15, 2024, 6:24 AM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

pure jasper Oct 15, 2024, 6:24 AM

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oh shit thundy

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okokokok i forgor about adding in excadrill mb

pure jasper Oct 15, 2024, 6:30 AM

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pure jasper https://pokepast.es/7c1d3e87061d2b90 chat am i ready for my third or 4 th suspec...

https://pokepast.es/4f0033730e22cd58
rate this one instead, i was referring to the ru thundy suspect but realized that i get 6-0ed by thundy.

idk, should i use spdef drill or this one or sth else? i need to make everything as good as possible for this suspect.

and btw, do any of you know of some trickroom team i can use to clap offense everybody on ladder is using???

low summit Oct 16, 2024, 12:45 AM

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How do u check fighting types with this team?

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I’m not too familiar with Uu but from my impression typespam doesn’t really work unless you’re ho

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I think brave bird on skarm will be useful to check dogi

pure jasper Oct 16, 2024, 7:43 PM

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low summit I think brave bird on skarm will be useful to check dogi

For dogi I usually just try and burn it with wisp and skarm isn’t beaten by dogi anyways, and I think I can usually deal enough damage to it to prevent it from actually being a threat.

low summit Oct 16, 2024, 10:04 PM

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nice

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what kind of team is it?

pure jasper Oct 17, 2024, 12:49 AM

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low summit what kind of team is it?

Idk what do I call it but it fucks weavile that’s for sure

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However I need to have somebody rate the team

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It’s not nearly close to good and yk

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It’s for a suspect test

low summit Oct 17, 2024, 2:55 AM

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yea im not experience enough in uu to give a rate

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sorry

versed verge Oct 18, 2024, 9:57 PM

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https://pokepast.es/68f2808f81ddf7f3

proven parrotBOT Oct 18, 2024, 9:57 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

unique wren Oct 19, 2024, 11:21 PM

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pure jasper Oct 19, 2024, 11:23 PM

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unique wren

Use pokepaste

unique wren Oct 19, 2024, 11:23 PM

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Oh sorry

pure jasper Oct 19, 2024, 11:23 PM

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And what I mean my that is to link it

unique wren Oct 19, 2024, 11:24 PM

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https://pokepast.es/1461d3e2b00ad436

pure jasper Oct 21, 2024, 4:37 AM

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unique wren https://pokepast.es/1461d3e2b00ad436

Doubles UU?

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Uh we only rate singles UU here

unique wren Oct 21, 2024, 3:41 PM

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pure jasper Uh we only rate singles UU here

Oh sorry

chilly quail Oct 22, 2024, 3:35 AM

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https://pokepast.es/0b6ab3b447e35ce1 is this good

peak wasp Oct 22, 2024, 6:57 PM

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Quick Question. What's that Barraskewda set

hidden monolith Oct 22, 2024, 7:05 PM

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chilly quail https://pokepast.es/0b6ab3b447e35ce1 is this good

Liquidation is better than tera blast water on crawdaunt

liquidation is also probably better than razor shell on cloyster

stone edge is probably not worth it on clodsire, haze, toxic, stealth rocks or spikes are probably more worth it

no idea what that barreskewda is cooking

av tinkaton kinda fails to do what tinkaton does, which is switch in and be disruptive, thunder wave and encore are huge tools for tinkaton that you need a very good reason to go without

Scarf jirachi absolutely wants uturn, probably over flash cannon

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The whole team feels a bit odd, its trying to be rain hyperoffense but your rain setter is a rain dance barreskewda, which just isnt good, and also you probably want to change some tera types

dense sedge Oct 25, 2024, 3:58 AM

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https://pokepast.es/5f7adf52d75c4b2c

proven parrotBOT Oct 25, 2024, 3:58 AM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

silent lynx Oct 25, 2024, 4:41 AM

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https://pokepast.es/e59599bbf1ad3d7a

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hi guys, wanted to ask for a review of this team

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i know this sounds silly but the idea is using LC pokemon's evolved form to make an UU team, would this team work? is there any improvement i can make? im ok with changing team members, but i'd rather keep mandibuzz, toxapex and tinkaton if possible

cinder osprey Oct 25, 2024, 9:58 AM

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as much as i want to roast this
it's not like that bad
people use these mons
just not in a team like this afaik
i'll look into it later

silent lynx Oct 25, 2024, 11:10 AM

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gotcha, so the team comp is the problem

proven parrotBOT Oct 26, 2024, 3:15 AM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

silent lynx Oct 26, 2024, 3:16 AM

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So i tried making this team around azumarill, is there any thing i can fix? I heard excadrill is a good partner so i added ttar for hazard and support with sand

silent lynx Oct 26, 2024, 4:32 AM

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https://pokepast.es/7c0e828bde97d048

ionic laurel Oct 27, 2024, 6:55 PM

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https://pokepast.es/bf408a137c556aa3
This is my first gen 9 uu team as ive only played gen 6 and 8 ou's so idk if this is good or not i added some pokemon im familiar with but are a tier lower or 2 and some uu pokemon that i think would be useful for a balanced team

proven parrotBOT Oct 27, 2024, 6:55 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

ionic laurel Oct 27, 2024, 6:57 PM

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The lanturn is more or less filler because i still dont have a great idea of how to replace him hes just there since i know how to use him

pure jasper Oct 27, 2024, 10:11 PM

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ionic laurel https://pokepast.es/bf408a137c556aa3 This is my first gen 9 uu team as ive only ...

I count exactly 2 UU mons, add more UU mons first and use their smogdex sets.

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Some non UU mons are viable in UU as well but this doesn’t look good to me

ionic laurel Oct 27, 2024, 10:12 PM

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ok

low summit Oct 28, 2024, 2:42 PM

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silent lynx https://pokepast.es/7c0e828bde97d048

i wouldnt use azu in sand

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sand chips it too much, especially when you are using belly drum

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give tyranitar leftovers and rocks

mint cave Oct 28, 2024, 9:16 PM

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https://pokepast.es/6f1e082d02e37078

proven parrotBOT Oct 28, 2024, 9:16 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

mint cave Oct 28, 2024, 9:17 PM

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mint cave https://pokepast.es/6f1e082d02e37078

Scizor trailblaze team

pure jasper Oct 28, 2024, 10:21 PM

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https://pokepast.es/ced955c8bef36b1e

I am going BU dogi and lokix for the suspect

pure jasper Oct 28, 2024, 10:21 PM

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mint cave https://pokepast.es/6f1e082d02e37078

No bullet punch scizor is madness

mint cave Oct 28, 2024, 10:48 PM

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pure jasper No bullet punch scizor is madness

Wanted to see if I can make a speedy Scizor

low summit Oct 28, 2024, 11:04 PM

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what is with the ev spread on scizor

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also sitrus berry heatran is hilarious

mint cave Oct 28, 2024, 11:41 PM

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low summit what is with the ev spread on scizor

Tried to be speedy but still bulky and have high attack with sd

cunning crown Nov 3, 2024, 11:33 PM

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https://pokepast.es/8d742b5adcffe302

proven parrotBOT Nov 3, 2024, 11:33 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

cunning crown Nov 3, 2024, 11:46 PM

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hi

cunning crown Nov 4, 2024, 2:48 AM

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changed destiny bond for trick^

ancient lotus Nov 10, 2024, 2:47 PM

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Hello everyone in chat I was just wondering if anybody would like to help me and making a UU team with Volcanion ?? thank you and have a good day

ancient lotus Nov 14, 2024, 3:09 PM

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@trim snow I was just wondering if you would like to help me in making a UU team with Volcanion ?? thank you and have a good day

proven parrotBOT Nov 14, 2024, 8:55 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

robust bluff Nov 18, 2024, 8:33 PM

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https://pokepast.es/3249a07cfb3b33ee

proven parrotBOT Nov 18, 2024, 8:33 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

pure jasper Nov 18, 2024, 8:40 PM

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robust bluff https://pokepast.es/3249a07cfb3b33ee

Choice scarf swords dance lesgo

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Also no this team isn’t viable

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Go check out the samples first

robust bluff Nov 18, 2024, 8:48 PM

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pure jasper Also no this team isn’t viable

💔

worn creek Nov 20, 2024, 2:01 AM

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https://pokepast.es/0b6faf7eab6ff1e2

proven parrotBOT Nov 20, 2024, 2:01 AM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

proven parrotBOT Nov 20, 2024, 2:06 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

robust bluff Nov 20, 2024, 2:11 PM

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https://pokepast.es/467dbd251dace8e8

pure jasper Nov 20, 2024, 8:42 PM

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robust bluff https://pokepast.es/467dbd251dace8e8

Agility eq latios, agility whirlwind Skarmory

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Excuse me but can you tell us what are you tryna do

robust bluff Nov 20, 2024, 8:45 PM

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pure jasper Excuse me but can you tell us what are you tryna do

forget about him only realized later

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🙏

open seal Nov 21, 2024, 3:00 PM

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not really an rmt, but can some help me team build/theroy craft some shit

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@trim snow

trim snow Nov 21, 2024, 4:11 PM

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what mons do u like

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i’m abt to go back to sleep so tag me again if i fail to respond

elder wing Nov 21, 2024, 4:14 PM

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open seal not really an rmt, but can some help me team build/theroy craft some shit

I'm not by any means good at teambuilding but I'm also down to participate

open seal Nov 21, 2024, 4:19 PM

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trim snow what mons do u like

I wanna try and make bulky synthesis zarude work idk about bulk up or sd or tera fire or posion yet tho

elder wing Nov 21, 2024, 4:20 PM

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OK u know what nvm I'm definitely not qualified for this

trim snow Nov 21, 2024, 4:26 PM

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open seal I wanna try and make bulky synthesis zarude work idk about bulk up or sd or tera...

zarude is a good mon rn, tbh idrk what’s objectively best rn either i feel like poison or fire is both fine, smth u can test out as you go imo, finish the team and play w zarude set based on testing

i think zarude is great rn so it should be relatively easy to come up w smth pretty good, ill just lay out a base for u and u can lmk what ur thoughts are:

zarude still struggles with breaking thru coba/mandi so smth that can hard abuse those relatively passive mons is good, for example:

zarude + thund + tran - abuses the above mons and compresses many roles that you’d end up needing regardless

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slowking is smth that comes to mind as well, but atp afterwards you will need some speed of some sort for sure

open seal Nov 21, 2024, 4:26 PM

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I am just running standard lefties sd max speed max atk jh rn

trim snow Nov 21, 2024, 4:27 PM

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ye that’s fine

open seal Nov 21, 2024, 4:27 PM

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https://pokepast.es/901514cc1f36be33

proven parrotBOT Nov 21, 2024, 4:27 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

open seal Nov 21, 2024, 4:27 PM

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This shit

trim snow Nov 21, 2024, 4:27 PM

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looks not bad for sure

open seal Nov 21, 2024, 4:27 PM

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there is one thing that might be suggested that I am not changing

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I refuse to run focus miss on torn

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I would much rather have a consistent option to hit zor and non ff tran

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than just gamble against exca and ff tran

trim snow Nov 21, 2024, 4:29 PM

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with rotom idt u need focus blast anyways if it’s smth u feel strongly abt

open seal Nov 21, 2024, 4:29 PM

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I would go seed bomb over pwhip because of this but pwhip gets WILD rolls

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+2 252 Atk Zarude Power Whip vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Jugulis: 210-247 (63.8 - 75%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

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Like why the fuck is allowed to happen

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+2 252 Atk Zarude Power Whip vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Lokix: 227-267 (80.2 - 94.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

trim snow Nov 21, 2024, 4:31 PM

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going seed bomb is inting for sure

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whip is very strong move

open seal Nov 21, 2024, 4:31 PM

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+2 252 Atk Zarude Seed Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Lokix: 152-179 (53.7 - 63.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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I think seed bomb is like

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Useable on defensively minded bulk up sets

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Where consistent dmg matters more that big hit

open seal Nov 21, 2024, 4:32 PM

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trim snow zarude is a good mon rn, tbh idrk what’s objectively best rn either i feel like ...

Mandibuzz w/o Uturn, Bb, or Ww is litterally just zarude food

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wait nmv

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I was thinking of smth else 💀

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Getting knocked is dix tho

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+2 252 Atk Zarude Power Whip vs. 248 HP / 136+ Def Mandibuzz: 141-167 (33.3 - 39.4%) -- 21.5% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

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Fraud pokemon

trim snow Nov 21, 2024, 4:33 PM

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i think the team is fine btw i’d just worry about some specific threats like quack but there’s only so much u can do

open seal Nov 21, 2024, 4:34 PM

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my quaq game plan

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Is that heatran will fb burn

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Trust

trim snow Nov 21, 2024, 4:34 PM

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works for me 👍

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or hope it’s random like

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spin set

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this will have a like

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60% success rate at the minimum surely

open seal Nov 21, 2024, 4:34 PM

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Frfr

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I mean

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Mein outspeeds at +1

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And tera rude/tom can eat cc

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I have also just 1v1ed one with tera tran

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Because I got fb burn on a cc

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LOL

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Azumaril is annoying if you miss power whip and wisp

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Also really under rated rude set atm

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Is boots Pwhip/Sb, Knock, U-Turn, and JH

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You can just switch into king and tom for free and pivot out or get a free knock

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Same with like fog, tox, fp, roost mandi

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you just knock and u-turn out

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252 Atk Zarude U-turn vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Mandibuzz: 51-60 (12 - 14.1%) -- possible 6HKO

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+Rocks adds up

heavy wyvern Nov 24, 2024, 5:33 AM

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I was working on a hyper offense team:
https://pokepast.es/54c25e22a240057d

proven parrotBOT Nov 24, 2024, 5:33 AM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

heavy wyvern Nov 24, 2024, 5:36 AM

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I was kinda wondering if I should switch out Azelf for a different lead

pure jasper Nov 24, 2024, 8:53 PM

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heavy wyvern I was working on a hyper offense team: https://pokepast.es/54c25e22a240057d

Two choice items on HO?

robust bluff Nov 29, 2024, 7:44 PM

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ima keep comin back till eventually i make a good team 🙏 https://pokepast.es/2d28d16363d65c07

proven parrotBOT Nov 29, 2024, 7:45 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

robust bluff Nov 29, 2024, 7:45 PM

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your asses never getting rid of me

pure jasper Nov 29, 2024, 11:05 PM

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robust bluff ima keep comin back till eventually i make a good team 🙏 https://pokepast.es/2...

Yeah but can you at least use UU viable mons

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Only one of these mons are remotely UU viable bruh

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Also

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Choice specs tail glow bouta go hard asf

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Assault vest calm mind also goes hard asf

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Ok in all seriousness you this team couldn’t be saved

robust bluff Nov 30, 2024, 12:56 PM

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pure jasper Ok in all seriousness you this team couldn’t be saved

my ass is trying 😭 yall mean asf

heavy wyvern Nov 30, 2024, 6:53 PM

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robust bluff my ass is trying 😭 yall mean asf

Here are the viability rankings for UU:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-uu-dlc-2-viability-rankings-update-at-post-260.3735310/

here are some sample teams:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-uu-sample-teams.3720278/

gmcat

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peak wasp Nov 30, 2024, 8:04 PM

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I wanna make a Yanmega team but I've spent like an hour looking at the team builder and honestly this Pokemon might just not even be worth the effort when I could just make a specs Latios team with all the good Pokémon

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It'd still Walled by Heatran but at least I'm not deluding myself with the idea that Yanmega might work

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https://pokepast.es/38762084509a1fcf
I did it anyways

proven parrotBOT Nov 30, 2024, 8:17 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

broken oar Dec 1, 2024, 11:20 AM

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https://pokepast.es/193327145ea9b70a

broken oar Dec 1, 2024, 12:06 PM

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I think this team came out pretty well

pure jasper Dec 1, 2024, 4:52 PM

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We don’t rate doubles UU here

broken oar Dec 1, 2024, 9:51 PM

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pure jasper We don’t rate doubles UU here

There's no DUU channel tho

frail burrow Dec 3, 2024, 8:33 PM

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https://pokepast.es/8948803f27efad61

proven parrotBOT Dec 3, 2024, 8:33 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

frail burrow Dec 3, 2024, 8:34 PM

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realized i have 2 rockers smh

tribal laurel Dec 12, 2024, 7:38 PM

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Scarf gard with rocks may cook ur team. Heatran is one focus blast predict from being toasted and av torn t on a team with no removal sounds rough

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I would also run a volt switch set on thundh t. I feel thundy t likes thr ability to pivot in and out snd outside of ho its really easy to prevent and take advantage of well

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Feel a change of pivot thundy t and np pecha does wonders, I would also consider boots torn t as av just gets worn down stupidly fast

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Also idk about u but tera ground comfrey looks dangerous

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 1:01 PM

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yo

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https://pokepast.es/a949d2cc7cc6780c

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thoughts

proven parrotBOT Dec 13, 2024, 1:02 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 1:04 PM

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first time building

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spike stack

open seal Dec 13, 2024, 1:56 PM

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mossy kernel https://pokepast.es/a949d2cc7cc6780c

klefki is not v good

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silver powder kix is

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interesting

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scarf lati is kinda ass ngl

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 1:59 PM

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open seal scarf lati is kinda ass ngl

oh

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i knew not

open seal Dec 13, 2024, 1:59 PM

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not as offensive

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like

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its usable

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 1:59 PM

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it has a set on smogon so i did it

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mostly for another weavile counter

open seal Dec 13, 2024, 1:59 PM

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i just don't really like it :<

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 2:00 PM

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open seal silver powder kix is

can bait band hehe

open seal Dec 13, 2024, 2:00 PM

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id go boots

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 2:00 PM

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open seal klefki is not v good

uhhhh i cant explain much, but i have to use it

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 2:00 PM

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open seal id go boots

either works

open seal Dec 13, 2024, 2:00 PM

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mossy kernel uhhhh i cant explain much, but i ***have*** to use it

okie doki boss

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 2:00 PM

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i just thought with removal as reliable as exca i wouldnt need it

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i shall make changes

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what should i make lati

open seal Dec 13, 2024, 2:01 PM

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Klefki @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 248 HP / 204 Def / 56 SpD
Impish Nature

Magnet Rise
Thunder Wave
Play Rough
Spikes

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 2:01 PM

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ok

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what does that beat

open seal Dec 13, 2024, 2:02 PM

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Tera water is good because it flips fire weakness and water is just a good defensive type

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Spdef is for eating lati tbolts

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your resistant/immune to stabs

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you can just go max def

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its klefki

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evs are shrug

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your good at switching into zardue and weav!

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Until they knock your lefties and you take spikes...

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you could be silly and go like balloon magican

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 2:20 PM

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open seal you could be silly and go like balloon magican

okay

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anything else wrong with the mons, or is this solid

open seal Dec 13, 2024, 2:21 PM

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pex is like

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meh

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 2:21 PM

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i just wanted to run like

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annoying spike stack with

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tspikes and shiiiii

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i wanted to get a bulky wate

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since i found this team to struggle vs tran

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our only real counterplay being exca ( 💀)

open seal Dec 13, 2024, 2:22 PM

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you still lose with pex...

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 2:22 PM

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yeah...

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shed shell perhaps

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 2:25 PM

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open seal you still lose with pex...

so what should i change it to

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i thought about av quaquaval or smth

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saw someone using a set like this onc

open seal Dec 13, 2024, 2:25 PM

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mossy kernel i thought about av quaquaval or smth

that is

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bad

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😭

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istg i had a bulky quaq spread

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Quaquaval @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Moxie
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 248 HP / 116 Atk / 144 Spe
Jolly Nature

Aqua Step
closecombat/rapidspin
U-turn
Roost

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fuck around with speed and attack till you find what your comfy with can also put some spdef

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132 jolly outspeeds utlidrill

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+creep

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192 is timid tran

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 2:32 PM

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open seal bad

thought so

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 2:33 PM

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open seal 192 is timid tran

jolly heatran

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what

open seal Dec 13, 2024, 2:34 PM

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mossy kernel jolly heatran

192 speed evs and a jolly nature on your quaq outspeeds 252 timid tran

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 2:35 PM

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ic

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 2:35 PM

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open seal Quaquaval @ Heavy-Duty Boots Ability: Moxie Tera Type: Steel EVs: 248 HP /...

quaquaval gets roost

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thats crazy

open seal Dec 13, 2024, 2:35 PM

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yurr

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 2:38 PM

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open seal yurr

https://pokepast.es/dc57bd577426268c

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?

open seal Dec 13, 2024, 2:44 PM

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i fuck with it]

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Keys isn't good so idk how much mileage you will really get out of it

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but it looks solid

mossy kernel Dec 13, 2024, 3:44 PM

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okii

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tysm

fiery tundra Dec 16, 2024, 9:31 PM

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https://pokepast.es/b24ba9644e1a7430 jsut some nice little stall

pure jasper Dec 16, 2024, 10:16 PM

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fiery tundra https://pokepast.es/b24ba9644e1a7430 jsut some nice little stall

Scarf mienshao ain’t stall

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Specs torn is also not stall

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Nor do I know if it is a real set

fiery tundra Dec 16, 2024, 10:25 PM

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please tell me you arent a rater cause if you are ion know what to say

pure jasper Dec 16, 2024, 11:23 PM

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fiery tundra please tell me you arent a rater cause if you are ion know what to say

It doesn’t take a rater or some top player to know choice specs tornadus + choice scarf mienshao is NOWHERE near the definition of stall

fiery tundra Dec 16, 2024, 11:57 PM

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oh good you arent a rater

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i was about to say this rater a lil bit unhinged

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eh sure it isnt full stall but i like a fast attacking option esp with regenerator

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when theres no wish

pure jasper Dec 17, 2024, 1:39 AM

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Not even close to semi stall either so y might as well call this something else

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Also, low kick ogerpon-c shamones you, especially with webs or other hazards.

heavy wyvern Dec 17, 2024, 6:27 AM

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no unaware mon on stall either?

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OhNo

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Dirge, Clod, and Quag are all UU and below you should probably have at least one

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Also I’d recommend having Chester as a dedicated Cpon check

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Also, most Blisseys like 252 def/252 spd because of pivoting moves and because she already has a massive HP stat

fiery tundra Dec 17, 2024, 9:26 AM

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heavy wyvern Also, most Blisseys like 252 def/252 spd because of pivoting moves and because s...

kk ty

fiery tundra Dec 17, 2024, 9:34 AM

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heavy wyvern Dirge, Clod, and Quag are all UU and below you should probably have at least one

ngl i have never once considered skeledirge on stall kekw

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might have to try it out

mossy kernel Dec 17, 2024, 9:51 AM

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fiery tundra https://pokepast.es/b24ba9644e1a7430 jsut some nice little stall

specs and scarf in stall

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nice

little shard Dec 17, 2024, 5:11 PM

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stall is bad anyway

mossy kernel Dec 18, 2024, 12:06 PM

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@open seal hey, on the team we decided, should we go for a fire type for last spot as we dont have a great tink mu (this team https://pokepast.es/dc57bd577426268c)

open seal Dec 18, 2024, 3:00 PM

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mossy kernel <@1284268579105017963> hey, on the team we decided, should we go for a fire type...

you can

maiden kiln Dec 21, 2024, 4:48 AM

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Hello everyone, I'm dipping my toes back into UU after school and long time playing OU and NatDex. I had built this sand team a long while back. It's been good for me in the past but with the recent shifts in the meta, I wonder about its viability. Any advice would be appreciated, please and thank you https://pokepast.es/6e7118dce7d21720

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foggy swallow Dec 23, 2024, 7:11 AM

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youve got a decent idea going with the tar exca keldeo torn

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i dont like smooth rock tar very much

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i think youd rather be leftovers

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why have you dropped speed on torn?

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i think you would rather a skeledirge and a hydrapple over scizor and mandibuzz

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mandibuzz is not a very good pokemon and these 2 give you a bit more offensive pressure

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and a better ho matchup

maiden kiln Dec 24, 2024, 4:36 AM

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Hello @foggy swallow, thank you for the advice! It's greatly appreciated. I am hoping to pick your brain a bit more about it if that's all right

maiden kiln Dec 24, 2024, 4:37 AM

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foggy swallow i think youd rather be leftovers

That's fair. What you think of having Hippowdon as another Sand setter, or even one to replace Tyranitar?

maiden kiln Dec 24, 2024, 4:37 AM

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foggy swallow why have you dropped speed on torn?

It was the set on smogon from when I used this team most often, probably a few months back

maiden kiln Dec 24, 2024, 4:38 AM

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foggy swallow i think you would rather a skeledirge and a hydrapple over scizor and mandibuzz

I added hydrapple, which I think will be good for double regen core with torn. I am hesitant to take off mandibzz tho

foggy swallow Dec 24, 2024, 4:38 AM

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maiden kiln That's fair. What you think of having Hippowdon as another Sand setter, or even ...

Neither, I think a leftovers ttar can suffice as the sand setter

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You don't need sand all the time

maiden kiln Dec 24, 2024, 4:39 AM

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With torn being AV, keld CS and drill being lefty, I don't want to rely solely on drill to remove hazards

foggy swallow Dec 24, 2024, 4:39 AM

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maiden kiln It was the set on smogon from when I used this team most often, probably a few m...

I'd go with 192 speed nowadays

maiden kiln Dec 24, 2024, 4:40 AM

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I like dirge and think it would be really good, but then I feel my team is weaker to hazards

maiden kiln Dec 24, 2024, 4:40 AM

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foggy swallow I'd go with 192 speed nowadays

Made that change as well

maiden kiln Dec 24, 2024, 4:40 AM

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foggy swallow Neither, I think a leftovers ttar can suffice as the sand setter

Ok, I'll change it and see how it goes

foggy swallow Dec 24, 2024, 4:40 AM

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maiden kiln With torn being AV, keld CS and drill being lefty, I don't want to rely solely o...

Umm drill as the sole hazard control is normally fine despite this, a set that's been popping up recently is boots keldeo if you want to try that

maiden kiln Dec 24, 2024, 4:41 AM

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foggy swallow Umm drill as the sole hazard control is normally fine despite this, a set that's...

I saw that on smogon, but I like having the breaking power of CS

foggy swallow Dec 24, 2024, 4:41 AM

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Fair enough

maiden kiln Dec 24, 2024, 4:41 AM

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Although getting to flip freely is nice

maiden kiln Dec 24, 2024, 4:41 AM

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foggy swallow Umm drill as the sole hazard control is normally fine despite this, a set that's...

Ok, drill is a great mon for a reason, so I can stick it out and see

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I was thinking of switching mandibuzz for Quaquaval to help with removal. Not sure it fits well tho

foggy swallow Dec 24, 2024, 4:42 AM

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I'm not so keen on that change

maiden kiln Dec 24, 2024, 4:44 AM

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Figured

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Also what do you think of cobalion to answer lokix?

foggy swallow Dec 24, 2024, 4:45 AM

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That could work I suppose but

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I think heatrans would work better as a rocker and lokix check

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Actually

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Since you have tar

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Doesn't need to be a rocket

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Rocker

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So you get to run like 3 attack willowisp heatrans if you wanted

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Which is cool

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Cobalion I feel like is constrained to just being a stealth Rock user and doesn't generate as much value as something like heatran

maiden kiln Dec 24, 2024, 4:51 AM

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foggy swallow I think heatrans would work better as a rocker and lokix check

Heatran is interesting, put it on a balloon with flame body

maiden kiln Dec 24, 2024, 4:51 AM

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foggy swallow Cobalion I feel like is constrained to just being a stealth Rock user and doesn'...

Fair point

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Between dirge and heatran, who do you feel is better?

foggy swallow Dec 24, 2024, 4:52 AM

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Hmm probably heatran I wanna say

maiden kiln Dec 24, 2024, 4:52 AM

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foggy swallow Hmm probably heatran I wanna say

Ok, I will add it and test this team out. Thank you again! Happy holidays!

candid nova Dec 26, 2024, 2:48 AM

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https://pokepast.es/aa64018c6de62252 I feel good about this, but I would like to know if it could be improved at all. I am not sure about the Heatran spread and the last slot on Lokix in particular

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foggy swallow Dec 26, 2024, 2:51 AM

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whats taunt on jugulis for

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i think if you have a heatran on the team it should probably be the rocker

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and be like charge beam shocks

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you dont need to be boots quaq

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that can be lefties or some other item

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sd lokix should either be

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imo

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leech life first impression sucker punch with tera bug

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or

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knock off sucker punch leech life with tera dark

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on this team you should probably run the latter

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otherwise its probably fine

candid nova Dec 26, 2024, 2:59 AM

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I like taunt for defensive mons like mandi that can toxic and recover stall

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or for lead mew, maybe even sinistcha in some situations

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slowking etc

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some mons it is more useful against than others

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I like boots on quaq for tspikes and not getting hurt by spikes is also useful

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I was running leftovers at first but switched

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What item do you think would be better?

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oh you said lefties

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Yea I could try it again

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I will try out rocks on heatran and maybe spikes before I try charge beam on shocks
And I really want fimp on kix so I will begin with the first set

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Thank you for the advice

candid nova Dec 26, 2024, 3:23 AM

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Coba berry actually sounds like a funny item on quaq as a boots replacement

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To mess with people using torn to rk, think I will try that

foggy swallow Dec 26, 2024, 5:01 AM

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coba could be cool

candid nova Dec 26, 2024, 5:45 PM

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https://pokepast.es/87ef01a2927d3f83 think I will stick with this, ty for the feedback

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candid nova Dec 26, 2024, 5:46 PM

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didnt mean to tag you all for a rate my bad

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forgot that was automated

maiden kiln Dec 28, 2024, 8:31 AM

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https://pokepast.es/3342637cba5cf02f Came on here a few days ago asking for feedback on this team. While some of the suggestions I received have been helped, after testing on the ladder the last couple of days, I feel this team is lacking. Lacking what? That I am not sure. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks in advance! EDIT: Made a change, removing Heatran in favor of Skarmory. Feel like skarm will be better at doing what Heatran was meant to do, checking lokix. New team here https://pokepast.es/fec1df0f672f26ce

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ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:05 AM

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https://pokepast.es/5b53afe8a55ca54d this is a balanced team with skarmbliss as good walls and some special and physical attackers
-Flygon for setup sweeping and because its my favorite pokemon you can never pry me from it
-Ttar for setup and bulky attacker
-Skarmory as a strong physical wall, lead and anti lead with taunt
-blissey as a special wall and support with heal bell and healing wish
-etc
-etc

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foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:07 AM

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this is sv uu not adv ou

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skarmbliss sucks

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so does flygon and tar tbh

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and yanmega

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umm

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:08 AM

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I get that but i thought it would pair well for the team as i didnt really see any bulky special wall

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:08 AM

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what mons do you want to keep

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:08 AM

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Flygon thats it

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Maybe skarm

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:09 AM

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teams dont need a special wall a physical wall etc

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those arent really roles you want to be looking for probably

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you just want to fit synergistic defensive pokemon so you have a good backbone

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flygon sucks..

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:10 AM

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😦

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:10 AM

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maybe try nu if you really want to use flygon

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its top tier down there i think

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:11 AM

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Yea but i want his potential not what he's already stomping

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Yea s+ i checked before

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It might have updated tho

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:12 AM

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hmmm idk

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maybe it would be better with a pivot set

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i guess dragon dance can maybe do something on hyper offense

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:13 AM

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I did have first impression on it to bait weavile and latios its like a walmart brand lokix

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:14 AM

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what makes lokix good is things not being able to resist its first impressions

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maybe like

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choice band flygon so you dont hit like a wet noodle + weavile could be a cool pairing

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:14 AM

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That is true but its mostly to revenge kill gren,weavile,hoopa,latios

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True

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:15 AM

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hoopas banned now btw

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:15 AM

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I thought didnt entirely know though

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:15 AM

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i think id suggest

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start from weavile heatran flygon

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come back to me once you have something and ill help you along

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:16 AM

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Ok

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Ill work on it

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:27 AM

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foggy swallow come back to me once you have something and ill help you along

https://pokepast.es/88bb4b15960b4dc1 ok done

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Hyperoffense

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:27 AM

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oh it didnt need to be hyper offense

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this isnt really what i mean by hyper offense though

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hyper offense generally consists of a hazard setter and 5 setup sweepers

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i was thinking choice band flygon weavile and heatran

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:28 AM

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Oh ok does it still work?

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Or no?

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:29 AM

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i dont think this is very good

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i think dd flygon with fire blast plus weavile could make a good hyper offense still though

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:30 AM

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Ok

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Also so was the team style of flygon+heatran+weavile being a balanced team because i missed the memo

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:31 AM

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yeah sorry

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like a bulky offense

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:31 AM

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Alright

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:31 AM

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type thing probably

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i think if you wanted a hyper offense though

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a hazard lead mew weavile flygon (dd, eq, dragon claw, fire blast) polteagiest quaquaval + whatever sweeper you like (maybe one of sd lokix, battle bond greninja, cornerstone, double dance thundy, manaphy, idk)

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could be good

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:44 AM

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foggy swallow a hazard lead mew weavile flygon (dd, eq, dragon claw, fire blast) polteagiest q...

Ok thanks for the suggestion but uhh i kinda went back to the bulky offense since thats what tou said the fly,weav,ran combo was for anyways this is the new teamhttps://pokepast.es/fb93fb47b0346a3a

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Ill think about the other team though too

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:46 AM

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seriously dont think this dd flygon is good unless its on hyper offense

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:46 AM

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Ok

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:46 AM

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i think uh

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for starters you have 2 stealth rockers

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and you have alot of overlapping weaknesses and are lacking answers to somme important things

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i think the heatran should be a bit bulkier

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i think you want a rotom wash instead of dirge

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hydrapple instead of serp

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:47 AM

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Removing flygon will make me depressed
Yea i had mamoswine but thats 3 fighting weaknesses so i did skeledirge but it didnt really help.

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Okay

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:48 AM

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maybe a lokix instead of metagross?

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:48 AM

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I was thinking hydrapple

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While making it

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:48 AM

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yeah

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:49 AM

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My only issue was thats 2 4x ice weak pokemon

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:49 AM

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thats not a bother

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sorry a lokix probably isnt the best option as the last

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flygon should probably be choice band earthquake dragon claw u turn first impression

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:58 AM

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foggy swallow flygon should probably be choice band earthquake dragon claw u turn first impres...

https://pokepast.es/86f915d1f1e1db78
Ill think about switching to band for flygon but the dd does come in clutch sometimes when i used it on the old balanced team.(that said ill still consider it)
I used battle bond greninja instead of the lokix for the sweeping

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:58 AM

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nonono definitely keep the dd one on the hyper offense

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:58 AM

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I also was thinking of clodsire for mew

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:58 AM

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but on the bulky offense i think choice band is better

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:59 AM

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Ok

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:59 AM

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ionic laurel I also was thinking of clodsire for mew

erm i dont think thats very wise

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wait what

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you like

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 8:59 AM

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I chose against it its fine

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 8:59 AM

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combined the idea for the hyper offense

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and the idea for the bulky offense

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i gave you ideas for 2 seperate teams

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 9:00 AM

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Oh....... mm

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Sorry

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About that

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 9:01 AM

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i think you could have a mew dd fire blast flygon weavile polteagiest quaquaval +1 hyper offense aswell as a choice band flygon weavile heatran hydrapple rotom +1 bulky offense

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 9:02 AM

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Okay thank you

foggy swallow Dec 29, 2024, 9:05 AM

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no worries

ionic laurel Dec 29, 2024, 9:09 AM

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Its late ill finish working on the 2 teams later but thank you for advice and the ideas

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Ill be sure to use them

graceful crypt Dec 29, 2024, 9:25 AM

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Can someone rate my team

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https://pokepast.es/9f21c787b75cb503

frank monolith Dec 29, 2024, 6:05 PM

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https://pokepast.es/6af31c737a1c74e2

Wanted to build Metagross
Been a while since I’ve built this tier seriously so this might not be that good but oh well

proven parrotBOT Dec 29, 2024, 6:05 PM

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frank monolith Dec 29, 2024, 6:06 PM

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Willing to change anything except Metagross or its set (I wanted to use this set specifically)

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(Changing Bullet Punch for SR is fine in any case)

wispy peak Dec 29, 2024, 6:13 PM

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u badly need to fix up the lokix mu to me

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among other things

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id probably change the cornerstone myself ngl

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making corner be a cobalion could be good? fixes like weavile mu sorta stuff too

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think u could explore pdef rocks twave coba + spikes shocks (and letting urself run fsight on slowking instead then) if u wanted

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or even like an SD coba or something too if u fancied it i suppose

maiden kiln Dec 29, 2024, 6:17 PM

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frank monolith https://pokepast.es/6af31c737a1c74e2 Wanted to build Metagross Been a while sin...

Get yourself a skarm or cobalion to handle lokix and I think this team is good

maiden kiln Dec 29, 2024, 6:17 PM

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maiden kiln https://pokepast.es/3342637cba5cf02f Came on here a few days ago asking for feed...

Bump, if I can get some help with this, please and thank you

frank monolith Dec 29, 2024, 6:21 PM

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wispy peak u badly need to fix up the lokix mu to me

Tysm

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So just Coba > Cornerstone?

wispy peak Dec 29, 2024, 6:22 PM

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ya

frank monolith Dec 29, 2024, 6:23 PM

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wispy peak ya

Also question, if Cobalion is only running Body Press and Volt Switch

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Shouldn’t it be Timid > Jolly?

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Smogdex doesn’t say anything abt that so idk lol

wispy peak Dec 29, 2024, 6:24 PM

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ya probably

frank monolith Dec 29, 2024, 6:25 PM

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Bet lol

wispy peak Dec 29, 2024, 6:25 PM

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maiden kiln https://pokepast.es/3342637cba5cf02f Came on here a few days ago asking for feed...

think main thing i was eyeing up is that im rly just not a fan of wasting ur ttar like this

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ngl i would probably use rocks coba > skarm, change the keldeo to something that actually checks torn too most likely

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traditionally i do think slowking actually works pretty well on sand even tho it sounds strange on paper with chillly reception negging it

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but that can also work optimally in ur favour at times

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esp if ur just instantly resetting it wiht ttar after if its the best switch

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ttar can easily just take a cb set or something instead then which would compress the breakng power ur missing and just make ur ttar have a lot more presence

maiden kiln Dec 30, 2024, 1:32 AM

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Hey @wispy peak, thanks for the reply back!

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For Tyranitar, I get what you are saying, offensive Ttar is a beast. However, I think it's too slow in this tier to get any significant offensive progress going. I like having ttar being a hazard setter, sp def presence and status spreader. It fits the team build I want to go for, which is a balance style.

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I thought of slowking but don't really know how good it would be at checking Torn. I will look to see what else checks it

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Coballion is good, I was considering it before I was recommended Heatran. Giving it rocks would allow me to put ice beam on ttar or another move

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I like the breaking power of keldeo, as it messes up quite a few of excadrill's check, Rotom-was chief among them

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I like skarm as well to be an additional ground immunity that is not weak to hazards

foggy swallow Dec 30, 2024, 5:48 AM

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yeah but like a bulky/offensive tar is good

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full spdef does like

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zero

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um i still think cobalion is worse than heatran

maiden kiln Dec 30, 2024, 7:49 AM

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foggy swallow um i still think cobalion is worse than heatran

I went skarm instead

foggy swallow Dec 30, 2024, 7:50 AM

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i think thats also not ideal but if it works

maiden kiln Dec 30, 2024, 7:50 AM

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foggy swallow yeah but like a bulky/offensive tar is good

What would that look like exactly?

foggy swallow Dec 30, 2024, 7:52 AM

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i can post a spread

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Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 216 HP / 144 Atk / 88 SpD / 60 Spe
Adamant Nature

Stone Edge
Knock Off
Fire Blast
Stealth Rock

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i forgot what this does

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but its good

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you can make fire blast something else probably lol

maiden kiln Dec 30, 2024, 7:56 AM

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foggy swallow you can make fire blast something else probably lol

Like Ice beam?

maiden kiln Dec 30, 2024, 7:56 AM

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foggy swallow Tyranitar @ Leftovers Ability: Sand Stream Tera Type: Fairy EVs: 216 HP / ...

Taking this, if that's ok

foggy swallow Dec 30, 2024, 7:57 AM

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yeah

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idk you can keep fire blast if you want to be funny

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ice beam does nothing

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maybe ice punch or earthquake

maiden kiln Dec 30, 2024, 7:57 AM

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Earthquake would be good

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Actually wait ice punch is good for hydrapple

maiden kiln Dec 30, 2024, 7:59 AM

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foggy swallow um i still think cobalion is worse than heatran

I made the change from heatran because I felt it checked a mon once and if didn't hit storm, it was a wasted slot

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Figured skarmory would be better for physical checks

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And not get blown up by ground or fighting moves

foggy swallow Dec 30, 2024, 9:17 AM

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its a bit passive though

maiden kiln Dec 31, 2024, 9:01 PM

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foggy swallow its a bit passive though

I feel its more proactive than heatran, with flame body and magma storm not hitting as often as needed

split pier Jan 1, 2025, 6:52 PM

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https://pokepast.es/87562e41cbd0a2d1 tried to make sand voltturn. Concerned at the HO matchup and specific threats like Quaq, Weavile, and opposing torn. Also somewhat desiring more speed control in some form. Any advice at all is appreciated.

proven parrotBOT Jan 1, 2025, 6:52 PM

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peak wasp Jan 1, 2025, 7:19 PM

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New year New me(I made another sand team like I did last year)
https://pokepast.es/1f11d5a49bbb965b

foggy swallow Jan 1, 2025, 10:24 PM

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split pier https://pokepast.es/87562e41cbd0a2d1 tried to make sand voltturn. Concerned at t...

i think if you had heatran over coba it would ease the opposing torn matchup a bit

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i think opposing excadrill could be problematic so maybe a hydrapple over latios could be good?

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otherwise this seems good

split pier Jan 1, 2025, 10:26 PM

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Would it be offensive or defensive Tran?

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Thanks so much btw

twilit harbor Jan 1, 2025, 10:30 PM

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Is defensive even good?

foggy swallow Jan 2, 2025, 12:04 AM

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i think

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you run atleast 160 speed on most trans

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and then i normally do modest

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with alot of hp

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and some special attack

split pier Jan 2, 2025, 12:05 AM

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The sample sets like 160 spe 96+ def rest into hp

abstract basin Jan 2, 2025, 12:05 AM

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foggy swallow you run atleast 160 speed on most trans

min is 191?

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unless tran runs -speed

foggy swallow Jan 2, 2025, 12:05 AM

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160 speed evs

abstract basin Jan 2, 2025, 12:05 AM

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oh ok

foggy swallow Jan 2, 2025, 12:05 AM

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split pier The sample sets like 160 spe 96+ def rest into hp

i dont think thats very good

abstract basin Jan 2, 2025, 12:06 AM

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why does it need to hit that benchmark

foggy swallow Jan 2, 2025, 12:08 AM

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230 speed outspeeds scizor and all the slower guys

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you can creep speed a bit

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if you want to catch rotom and other heatran

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you could go like 168

foggy swallow Jan 2, 2025, 12:10 AM

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peak wasp New year New me(I made another sand team like I did last year) https://pokepast....

i think the indeedee just for the expanding force deoxys is a waste

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i feel like

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sand teams cant fit a mon with no defensive utility like deoxys without losing to weavile or excadrill or whatever

peak wasp Jan 2, 2025, 12:14 AM

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Hmmm fair enough

twilit harbor Jan 2, 2025, 3:15 AM

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foggy swallow i think

What does it even check besides like lokix and kind of weavile?

foggy swallow Jan 2, 2025, 3:16 AM

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it checks like torn and those guys kinda

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checks scizor and grass types that arent hydrapple

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i think

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if you have a heatran as your like sole option into weavile and lokix then you have a problem

twilit harbor Jan 2, 2025, 3:18 AM

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But I feel like you’re usually better off with just like phys def rotom or something as your defensive mon

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And just offensive heatran

foggy swallow Jan 2, 2025, 3:19 AM

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umm you dont need a dedicated defensive pokemon and a spdef pokemon

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on every team

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but

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i dont think defensive heatran is good anyway

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i think you run a bulky offensive one always pretty much

twilit harbor Jan 2, 2025, 3:21 AM

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What’s the bulky offensive set?

maiden kiln Jan 2, 2025, 4:55 AM

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Hey all, built myself a bulky hazard stack team modelled after a team I built in OU. Thundurus-T is an iffy pick there, but I am uncertain who else can fill the role of offensive mon. Any feedback would be appreciated https://pokepast.es/754b4d9e46e447c6

proven parrotBOT Jan 2, 2025, 4:55 AM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

foggy swallow Jan 2, 2025, 4:56 AM

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twilit harbor What’s the bulky offensive set?

can u read pls i said one up above

twilit harbor Jan 2, 2025, 4:57 AM

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foggy swallow with alot of hp

Yeah I saw it but it wasn’t specific

foggy swallow Jan 2, 2025, 5:51 AM

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maiden kiln Hey all, built myself a bulky hazard stack team modelled after a team I built in...

i think this is a bit too passive

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ummm

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i think i would make skarm spdef

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with like

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248 hp 56+ defense and the rest in spdef

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id make clodsire into a heatran

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i dont really like clodsire very much unless its a niche scenario

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id do a rotom wash over slowking

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spdef one

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thundurus can be tera poison

maiden kiln Jan 2, 2025, 11:53 PM

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foggy swallow i think i would make skarm spdef

Hello, thanks for looking it over. I can try that, but I must ask, what does sp def skarm check or counter?

foggy swallow Jan 2, 2025, 11:54 PM

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its helpful for your hydrapple matchup in particular

maiden kiln Jan 2, 2025, 11:54 PM

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I will test these changes and seee what comes out of it. Thanks again!

maiden kiln Jan 2, 2025, 11:54 PM

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foggy swallow its helpful for your hydrapple matchup in particular

Ahhh yeah that makes sense

foggy swallow Jan 2, 2025, 11:54 PM

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yeah no worries

maiden kiln Jan 2, 2025, 11:55 PM

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foggy swallow thundurus can be tera poison

Can I make thundurus tera ice? or is poison better?

foggy swallow Jan 2, 2025, 11:55 PM

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that doesnt sound very good

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poison ohkos hydrapple anyway

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and posion can wall opposing thundurus

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which is fun

maiden kiln Jan 2, 2025, 11:56 PM

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foggy swallow and posion can wall opposing thundurus

Gnarly!

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Thats awesome tip to know

maiden kiln Jan 2, 2025, 11:57 PM

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foggy swallow 248 hp 56+ defense and the rest in spdef

Should I go careful nature for skarm or keep impish?

foggy swallow Jan 2, 2025, 11:58 PM

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56+ so yeah keep impish

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generally its good to have your um

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your nature in your highest stat

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because like

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for example

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having a 10% boost on 250 gives you 25 extra points whereas having a10% boost on 200 gives you 20 extra points

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unless you need the nature in a stat for something in particular

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you should generally always have it in your highest stat to be the most efficient with your evs

maiden kiln Jan 3, 2025, 12:07 AM

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Makes sense, thank you for the explanation

foggy swallow Jan 3, 2025, 6:31 AM

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oh by the way

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@maiden kiln

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make skarm brave bird body press spikes roost

maiden kiln Jan 3, 2025, 6:33 AM

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foggy swallow make skarm brave bird body press spikes roost

Will do! Thanks

peak wasp Jan 3, 2025, 8:28 PM

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foggy swallow i think the indeedee just for the expanding force deoxys is a waste

https://pokepast.es/468fa7b33317c4d5
Ok I removed Indeedee and added Heatran

proven parrotBOT Jan 3, 2025, 8:28 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

foggy swallow Jan 3, 2025, 10:33 PM

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peak wasp https://pokepast.es/468fa7b33317c4d5 Ok I removed Indeedee and added Heatran

if you made deoxys into a hydrapple this would be good

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rn you get 6-0ed by excadrill

peak wasp Jan 3, 2025, 10:33 PM

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How do I do that?

foggy swallow Jan 4, 2025, 2:36 AM

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you know

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remove the deoxys

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add a hydrapple

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also i think excadrill should probably be tera dragon or ghost

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and tar should probably be adamant and have some attack because otherwise it feels like a very dead slot

peak wasp Jan 4, 2025, 2:40 AM

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God I kinda hate using Hydrapple. This Pokemon just never feels go to use for me. But like it does fit in better

tribal laurel Jan 6, 2025, 5:01 PM

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peak wasp https://pokepast.es/468fa7b33317c4d5 Ok I removed Indeedee and added Heatran

Idk how I feel about smooth rock ttar, I've seen a lot of lefties ttar in tour I feel like esp since the bulk vs latios is nice

I would likely go np torn t to try to get rotom w into range of exca, without dice rock blast u will struggle to bring it down as nothing really does enough to it

peak wasp Jan 6, 2025, 5:02 PM

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tribal laurel Idk how I feel about smooth rock ttar, I've seen a lot of lefties ttar in tour I...

Oh I've updated the team to swap DeoS with Hydrapple

tribal laurel Jan 6, 2025, 5:02 PM

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I consider maybe a def heatran with lava plume to help vs stuff like quaq which can be a pain and while hydrapple is good make sure to make it tera fairy otherwise it def feels like quaq runs u over with a cc read

peak wasp Jan 6, 2025, 5:02 PM

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And also I do have Lefties TTar now

tribal laurel Jan 6, 2025, 5:02 PM

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The thing is I've seen a lot of keld > rotkm w builds and idk

peak wasp Jan 6, 2025, 5:03 PM

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tribal laurel I consider maybe a def heatran with lava plume to help vs stuff like quaq which ...

Good to know

tribal laurel Jan 6, 2025, 5:03 PM

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I think if u go specs hydrapple I'd keep rotom

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If u go np hydrapple I'd go with keldeo maybe

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BTW the reason I dislike deo s here is it doesn't do anything

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It also very much so hates sand, hazards and more chip

peak wasp Jan 6, 2025, 5:04 PM

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I prefer Rotom so I'll swap to Specs

tribal laurel Jan 6, 2025, 5:04 PM

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Also I feel tera fairy allows u to stuff quaw

peak wasp Jan 6, 2025, 5:04 PM

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https://pokepast.es/f565e29c41fb4fb1

tribal laurel Jan 6, 2025, 5:04 PM

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Specs hydrapple os shaky as a defensive answer

proven parrotBOT Jan 6, 2025, 5:04 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

tribal laurel Jan 6, 2025, 5:04 PM

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Tk a lot kf the tier

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I would likely put rocks on ttar and maybe taunt on heatean

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I think that is what I would change

peak wasp Jan 6, 2025, 5:06 PM

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Anything else?

tribal laurel Jan 6, 2025, 5:07 PM

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Tera fairy rotom w tk help vs quaq is prob the only real change I have rn

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Otherwise it looks playable

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I'm unsure how much I like heatran > dirge I've seen on this team but idt it's that bad

I think heatran can work esp vs stuff like km poltea or preventing kix from clicking bug moves and claiming exca and hydrapple

peak wasp Jan 6, 2025, 5:09 PM

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It's really just here for the Lokix match up

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I miss you so much Zapdos

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Please come back to us when you're done with your OU community service

strange charm Jan 7, 2025, 11:38 AM

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I got a question about Hawlucha in Psychic Terrain
Are there reliable ways to stop it

elder wing Jan 7, 2025, 11:40 AM

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Stop it before it sets up is best

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But otherwise unaware ig?

strange charm Jan 7, 2025, 11:42 AM

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It does make sense, at least in theory

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Or at least play mind games

hidden monolith Jan 7, 2025, 12:34 PM

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Hawlucha can still be hit by priority before it teras bc its flying type, so if you force tera before it comes out you can deal with it with priority quite easily

lean monolith Jan 8, 2025, 1:24 AM

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strange charm I got a question about Hawlucha in Psychic Terrain Are there reliable ways to st...

keeping unaware skeledirge healthy

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strong attacks

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lokix is still good post terrain and especially if it teras

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even psychic terrain is still pretty lokix weak

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as long as you have more sacs

strange charm Jan 8, 2025, 11:27 AM

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lean monolith keeping unaware skeledirge healthy

Sorry I didn't get to respond earlier
But the options you have provided, it does seem to be good checks against Psychic Terrain

strange charm Jan 9, 2025, 9:55 AM

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Hi, I came up with this team and I was just wondering if I could get feedback on how to improve: https://pokepast.es/68c8eec0e91feeb0
Was thinking of switching Latios with Rotom-W to better handle physical threats, but concerned that it would be too passive

proven parrotBOT Jan 9, 2025, 9:55 AM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

foggy swallow Jan 10, 2025, 3:44 AM

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this looks solid to me

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i think the torn should be tera water probably for greninja insurance

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latios can be modest nature

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and i feel like zarude doesnt need to be poison tera anymore

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you could try fairy or water or something

strange charm Jan 11, 2025, 1:31 AM

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Hi
Sorry I didn't get your message earlier
Thank you for reviewing my team

strange charm Jan 11, 2025, 1:33 AM

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foggy swallow this looks solid to me

Btw, just a question
If i replaced latios for room (just to take care of bugs and weavile), would the team be too passive?

foggy swallow Jan 11, 2025, 2:26 AM

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Do you mean rotom

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Or revavroom

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Revavroom doesn't really fit here

strange charm Jan 11, 2025, 3:15 AM

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foggy swallow Do you mean rotom

Sorry I meant replacing latios for rotom-w
I considered it because I was concerned about like the bugs and dark types, but then thinking the team is passive

foggy swallow Jan 11, 2025, 3:59 AM

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I think you are fine on that front

prisma pulsar Jan 11, 2025, 4:04 AM

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Pecharunt got banned so I'm having to update my old team https://pokepast.es/cf68079555dae23f

It lacks recovery but I'm thinking about trying Incin

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I'm also looking into Grimmsnarl as well

strange charm Jan 11, 2025, 4:14 AM

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foggy swallow I think you are fine on that front

Ok then

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Btw, I heard from a few people that UU is dominated by HO
Is it true?

prisma pulsar Jan 11, 2025, 4:21 AM

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For Wish passers you have to go to RU and under, and the regenerator pokemon have overlapping common weaknesses

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And many having lost past tools

strange charm Jan 11, 2025, 4:33 AM

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I see
And there aren't much walls in uu right?

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Like they lost okidoki

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Sorry he's not a wall but he can at least stop some threats for a while

foggy swallow Jan 11, 2025, 4:39 AM

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strange charm Btw, I heard from a few people that UU is dominated by HO Is it true?

Ho is very strong yeah

strange charm Jan 11, 2025, 4:52 AM

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foggy swallow Ho is very strong yeah

I see
Is it like really overwhelming force of ho, or can it be reasonably stopped
There are regeneration mons, but weavile and lokix can stop them

foggy swallow Jan 11, 2025, 4:53 AM

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Nah ho is reasonable

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It's just good

strange charm Jan 11, 2025, 4:54 AM

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Oh ok
Thought it would be guns blazing lol

cold comet Jan 12, 2025, 5:31 PM

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https://pokepast.es/fd8ae3884351428d

proven parrotBOT Jan 12, 2025, 5:31 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @lean monolith, @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

summer viper Jan 12, 2025, 11:29 PM

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https://pokepast.es/ca1aa0d9a34a27fc

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Blob_Sip

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So I tried to make a bulky hazard stack team. This is what my thought process behind the team was:

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Vaporean - Wish passes and annoys things with scald
Weezing - Benefits from wish passing, puts out toxic, burns annoying things like Skarm, and prevents dark types from switching in cause of strange steam
Skarmory - Spikes never dies
Clodsire - Rocks, special wall, and is cute
Zapados - Dedicated progress maker and it’s nice typing means it doesn’t die to sucker punch, first impression, or foul play. Also, punishes Mandibuzz defog.
Sinistcha - Spin blocker and sits on Excadrill

elder wing Jan 13, 2025, 1:43 AM

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Can I post a natdex uu team here?
https://pokepast.es/3d64cc34ef13bd46
Did some testing already and the team is pretty weak to aegislash. I just want to use mega beedrill. How can I fix?

lean monolith Jan 13, 2025, 2:24 AM

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elder wing Can I post a natdex uu team here? https://pokepast.es/3d64cc34ef13bd46 Did some ...

no just sv

elder wing Jan 13, 2025, 2:25 AM

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Right, I missed the nd non ou rates thread

tribal laurel Jan 13, 2025, 10:59 PM

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summer viper https://pokepast.es/ca1aa0d9a34a27fc

2 things, clod likes toxic so id drop spikes for it as you already have rocks

Weezing g is very hard tk make work because it's just passive asf and does not check very much

The team is also slow, I might think about adding a boots weavile here

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I would want to hear on yr justification of why vaporeon instead of settling on slowking but I assume u want to build around that

Team is also passive, very semi stall but loses to quite a bit of stuff, I would either try to focus on a stall built or more balance

Weezing defog with spikes stack is also anti synergy and I'd prefer drill as a spinner to not remove my own hazards

foggy swallow Jan 13, 2025, 11:08 PM

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cold comet https://pokepast.es/fd8ae3884351428d

i quite like this tbh, id probably just go for soul dew latios because i think that set is alot more consistent. i think heatran should be willowisp and tera fairy so you can catch quaquaval with a wisp if it tries to come in since thats a bit problematic for the team. id probably change the heatran spread to 204 hp evs for a leftovers number and drop some defense and go up to like 160-172 speed to creep stuff like rotom and other heatran. for serperior id probably go like tera rock or electric or ground because fire is kinda mid. make lokix boots please. also if you move 4 defense into attack for donphan you get a jump point

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it still has a donphan and a serperior but it has quite good synergy tbh

foggy swallow Jan 13, 2025, 11:24 PM

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um idk what to say about this naptime team

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its very do nothing

cold comet Jan 14, 2025, 1:17 AM

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foggy swallow it still has a donphan and a serperior but it has quite good synergy tbh

What’s wrong with Donphan and Serperior? Also whats a jump point

foggy swallow Jan 14, 2025, 1:23 AM

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they arent normally considered very good

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so jump points

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a boosting nature gives you a 10% boost to whatever stat you put it in right

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and pokemon rounds down

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so

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lets say

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250+10% is 275

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but 249+10%

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which rounds down to 273

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so if the stat you are putting your nature into is a multiple of ten

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you get an extra stat point

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jump points are good to aim for when you are making ev spreads

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unless you need something specific

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you can see this in the teambuilder too by moving the slider around on your stat with a boosting nature untill it goes up or down by 2 instead of 1

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but its probably more easy to remember to aim for multiples of ten

cold comet Jan 14, 2025, 4:26 AM

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Thx for the explanation my g

summer viper Jan 14, 2025, 5:35 AM

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tribal laurel 2 things, clod likes toxic so id drop spikes for it as you already have rocks W...

https://pokepast.es/dfb6dcc206938982

proven parrotBOT Jan 14, 2025, 5:35 AM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @lean monolith, @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

summer viper Jan 14, 2025, 5:35 AM

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Would this be better?

tepid ice Jan 14, 2025, 7:19 PM

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https://pokepast.es/daa7b24521cbb40c

strange charm Jan 18, 2025, 2:13 AM

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tepid ice https://pokepast.es/daa7b24521cbb40c

Not a rater, but garganacl is banned from SV UU

tepid ice Jan 18, 2025, 2:37 AM

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strange charm Not a rater, but garganacl is banned from SV UU

Its doubles

strange charm Jan 18, 2025, 2:40 AM

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tepid ice Its doubles

Oh sorry about that
I didn't notice it in the pokepaste team

tepid ice Jan 18, 2025, 2:40 AM

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strange charm Oh sorry about that I didn't notice it in the pokepaste team

Yeah dw abt it

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I dont think i put it in the pokepaste team

strange charm Jan 18, 2025, 3:09 AM

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tepid ice I dont think i put it in the pokepaste team

Ah it is
I think if you clicked on upload to pokepaste, it would upload the team from the format you selected in teambuilder

low summit Jan 18, 2025, 6:23 AM

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This is for singles not doubles

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This channel specifically

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FYI

tepid ice Jan 18, 2025, 1:03 PM

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ty ty

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i did look for one for doubles but couldnt find one

unique wren Jan 19, 2025, 4:52 AM

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damn

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 5:11 PM

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https://pokepast.es/4dcab7f66470eecb

proven parrotBOT Jan 20, 2025, 5:11 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @lean monolith, @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 5:11 PM

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Trying to make cb harc work again

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might go psy fangs>slide for defensive quaq

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 10:26 PM

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look

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nothing really switches into boots harc anyway

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i think putting a choice lock on it is making problems for yourself for not much benefit

strange charm Jan 20, 2025, 10:57 PM

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I have learnt something about Zarude
Apparently its jungle healing can't heal its teammates in singles

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:02 PM

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foggy swallow i think putting a choice lock on it is making problems for yourself for not much...

Fair

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Do you think msun is worth?

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Over rocks

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Or Wisp maybe

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Want to like

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Actually give it any defesnive use

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 11:08 PM

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i think trying to make harc your torn check is a bad idea

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i like wisp harc

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i see the vision with the serperior but i think

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a better para spreader that can actually help get harc in would be slowking

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that also helps with the torn matchup

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id probably do exca over duck

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:12 PM

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ty bestie

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 11:13 PM

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ummmm

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:13 PM

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wah

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 11:13 PM

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yeah if you make exca balloon that should be fine

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:13 PM

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Yah

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Loon Exca is such a drug

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 11:14 PM

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do 16+ spdef slowking

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:14 PM

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Excadrill @ Air Balloon
Ability: Mold Breaker
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

Earthquake
Iron Head
Rapid Spin
Swords Dance

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this set is so fucking good

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 11:15 PM

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do my eyes deceive

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surely thats piss weak

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:16 PM

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Nah

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Its not for breaking

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Sd is just filler

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Can help to let you clean easier

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Could go max atk here tho

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 11:18 PM

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whats the spdef for

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:18 PM

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It's just utli drill

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But because of how high the hp is you get more value in spdef then hp

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Max speed is for mirror

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And fast trans

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Due to Drills insane hp stat you get more value out of running max spdef in my experince, max speed is chosen for 1v1s and making your self more threatening with Swords Dance.

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 11:20 PM

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thats fine

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i think you should run atleast 124 attack

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:21 PM

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You did read that blurb before aproving the sample no?

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:21 PM

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foggy swallow i think you should run atleast 124 attack

whats that bump for?

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 11:21 PM

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open seal You did read that blurb before aproving the sample no?

what?

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:21 PM

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Thats litterally from the write up for my sample

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 11:21 PM

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open seal whats that bump for?

lets you 2hko the calc apple set at +2

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:22 PM

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Ic

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 11:22 PM

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i dont do c&c stuff

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:23 PM

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You didnt aprove the samples

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 11:23 PM

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foggy swallow lets you 2hko the calc apple set at +2

u can also do 36 attack to kill lokix at +2 but i think the apple calc is worth it

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:23 PM

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I thought you did as you control the thread

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oopie

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What do your Cobalt and Torn Spreads do

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Im curious

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 11:24 PM

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oh you are choicebadkyurem

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:25 PM

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yah

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hai!

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 11:25 PM

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hihi

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:26 PM

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Because admitally I think my spreads could be a bit more optimized

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 11:26 PM

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open seal What do your Cobalt and Torn Spreads do

the torn one has the highest hp possible that is not divisible by 4 so u dont take extra rocks damage and is divisible by 3 so u get extra regenerator hp

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:26 PM

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oh ic

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 11:27 PM

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the coba lives specs latios and kills excadrill with body press

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:29 PM

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ic

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have been using them lately

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working well

foggy swallow Jan 20, 2025, 11:31 PM

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cool cool

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:32 PM

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I also have like 0 idea what the 56 spdef on zarude does

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It was just kinda vibes based

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Gren is annoying? Slap on some spdef

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https://pokepast.es/07fcfd555b4029c5

proven parrotBOT Jan 20, 2025, 11:39 PM

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New [Gen 9] UU RMT @lean monolith, @wispy peak, @trim snow, @foggy swallow, @brazen veldt, @lucid storm. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

open seal Jan 20, 2025, 11:40 PM

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also fucking arnd with this

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knock thundy is a very cool midground option

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