#UU Rates

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foggy swallow
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disagree but i prefer running speed for ttar

lean monolith
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even if it’s u-turn

foggy swallow
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also like

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you can run offensive deci here

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it doesnt need to be defensive

twilit harbor
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SD?

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Or like band

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or specs

foggy swallow
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roost u turn leaf sotrm shadow ball

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184 speed 252+ spatck 72 hp

twilit harbor
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Decidueye (M) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Long Reach
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature

  • Leaf Storm
  • Shadow Ball
  • Roost
  • U-turn
twilit harbor
fickle flax
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mb phone died lemme catch up rq

foggy swallow
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as for you i like alot of the mons right now just the sets are a bit wonk

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y

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the scizor should be the boots u turn bp cc sd set

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scream should be protect over twave

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and tera ground

fickle flax
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idk neither of those bait in tinkaton and Scizor
Very funny mons to bait in

foggy swallow
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now with the sandy shocks. the booster energy set only is ever run on hyper offense

hybrid vapor
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gren baits in tink pretty well

foggy swallow
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its not very good elsewhere and here i think it should be swapped for gastrodon like romanji said

fickle flax
hybrid vapor
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yes

fickle flax
hybrid vapor
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you risk taking a knock which is pretty bad for you in any case

foggy swallow
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you dont wanna lose to opposing scizoe

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and right now thats a thing you do

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you could run rotom heat or talonflame over slither wing

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talonflame would be good methinks

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dont run defog thoug defog talon is sorta bad

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in the last slot av donphan or something

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so uh to summarise

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what i think you should do is:
life orb cyclizar power whip overheat draco meteor u turn, run max special attack 4 attack
change the scizor set to the u turn sd cc bp one
scream should be tera ground and protect over twave
sandy shocks -> gastrodon
slither wing -> taunt talonflame
gengar -> av donphan

fickle flax
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outside of Gastro and Quag (two things which Draco hits fine) what does pwhip do

hybrid vapor
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draco does a good buttload of 0 to gastro btw

fickle flax
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mb not Gastro yea

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It does deal with Quag fine tho

foggy swallow
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pwip hits the bulky grounds

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hippo gastro

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and it does decent damage to like scream tail

shadow osprey
proven parrotBOT
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New UU RMT @wispy peak, @trim snow, @low kernel, @lean monolith, @cursive vale, @foggy swallow. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

shadow osprey
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Megas don't exist anymore and most mons aren't in the game.

safe flax
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I reworked it dw

lean monolith
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so chose something to build around and I’d be happy to rate

shadow osprey
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Especially with the fact I'm still relatively new to competitive and I'm still at a young age not being as experienced as most others.

scarlet yew
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You don't select members based on what you need

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Because you don't have a fucking team yet

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You pick what you actually want to build around first

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Just pick some dude

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See what kills them and what else they don't have

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Then build the team to accentuate their strengths and eliminate their weaknesses

strange charm
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I have a question
Are UU raters able to rate teams at the beginning of the month (when tier shifts happen)?
I'm asking because I have a team that I want to check
However, I'm not sure whether it would be relevant after the tier shifts

slender peak
strange charm
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Thanks @slender peak
Give me a few minutes, and I will show you what I cooked

slender peak
# shadow osprey I don't really know. I don't play UU to often. There's really nothing to guide m...

i'd suggest 2 things to help guide you first

  1. you should just use more mons that resist common types (so you need a more sturdy fighting resist and a ground resist) --> so something like intimidate specially offensive salamence over haxorus here can help

  2. you should try to figure out the style you want before completing your team, your team has bulky offense mons (like tink) but also hyper offense mons (like dd haxorus) that don't mesh well together, so this reinforces the point about using salamence over haxorus (salamence is a better bulky offense mon than haxorus)

another note: since you dont have any more set up sweepers really, i'd use life orb natural cure rest pawmot (rest over revival) since it gives you very big breaking potential) and close combat over ice punch so you can threaten things like wochien much better

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you're welcome krock! sure you can ping me again later if you want

strange charm
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@slender peak
This is the team I have cooked: https://pokepast.es/b68f85b5eb2d5f3b
I have also considered the possible mons that may go to SV UU: Iron Treads, Sylveon, Gardevoir, Chesnaught and maybe Azumarill

slender peak
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gardevoir is already common in uu as well as sylveon

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idk if they are uu by usage but you will do well to prep for them

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yeah the first thing i see is that the team seems very good and fairly standard but with very small quirks on sets

strange charm
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Sorry to interrupt

slender peak
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oh youre fine

strange charm
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I should mention that with Decidueye and Sylveon, I didn't really know what I was picking
I know I needed a defogger or a hazard remover
But I didn't really know on what I can use for a special attacker
I think i chose sylveon because i was concerned about Wo-chien and Gren

slender peak
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yeah those are two good reasons to use sylveon imo

strange charm
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You mentioned that I should make some quirks on the sets?

slender peak
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no i was saying your team looks good but with some minor unusual stuff (idk if they are good or bad, and tbh on balance unusual things are good)

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but i am referring to fire blast mence

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when flame is more common bc it ohkos scizor anyways

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spdef on sylveon

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when most just max def

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boots on tar

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when lefties is more common

strange charm
# slender peak spdef on sylveon

Regarding the spdef on Sylveon
I borrowed it from the smogon set
Said that it needs 48 spdef to counter Tera Flying Hydregion Hurricane
Or is that counter outdated?

slender peak
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oh

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i had no idea that was a thing

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sure that makes sense then

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although i think tar covers most jugulis well anyways

strange charm
slender peak
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it makes sense to me

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i am a tad worried about tar here

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it can get openings on decid and sort of mence although you have hydro

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the bigger issue is you lack arock resist

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which is in part because you lack a ground/volt immune

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you might get voltturned on especially with your slowbro

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i'd at least consider running tera ground on a few mons like tar if not actually getting a ground type

strange charm
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@slender peak I was thinking for some mons that may handle voltsiwtch and and Ttar: Quagsire instead of Slowbro and Sandy Shocks instead of Sylveon
Former I gave up because of increasing grass moves and inability to handle rain physical offense and maybe fighting types
Latter because it can't outspeed mons like Greninja and Gengar (latter can't OHKO it, but it can revenge kill it)

slender peak
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okay i do like the quag thing

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to your point about rain and grass moves and fighting types

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for grass moves i think thats relatively not an issue since slowbro doesnt beat any grass mon anyways except like wochien that run foul play/ knock off but quag beats that wochien set too

scarlet yew
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I thought Slowbro could tank rain

strange charm
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I meant that Quagsire can't tank rain without Water Absorb

slender peak
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for your point about physical rain, yes its true you become weaker to that but 1) a lot of rain sweepers are special anyways and will kabob you like kilowat, but you still have a mence that takes physical rain mons. i'd even perhaps use a bulkier mence set, you could go down to only outspeed slitherwing so you have more bulk

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being slower to quaq isnt great but that brings me toanother point, i'd consider running phys def decidueye here, its not common yet but i think it will become common, spdef doesnt help that much but phys def lets you beat quaq donphan and knock off cyclemuch more easily

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regardng your point about fighting types, yeah youre weaker to them with quag but you still have mence and sylveon plus you can tera poison or ghost your quag if you want

strange charm
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For the Salamence (bulky) set, what about:
EVs: 248 HP / 140 SpA / 12 SpD / 108 Spe [Outspeeds Adamant Slither Wing, and Jolly Bisharp. Lives 2 TBolts from Sandy Shocks]
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
And for Decidueye, how much defense bulk would it need?

slender peak
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love the mence spread

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decidueye, i think you can just completely swap spdef into def

strange charm
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All of Spdef to Def, you mean?

slender peak
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yes

scarlet yew
strange charm
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@slender peak
You mentioned that Slowbro can't do much to Grass Types
What about Ice Beam and Future Sight, at least it can put pressure on them
Unless Quagsire's Toxic can be more determential to them.

slender peak
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well there's basically 3 grass types right now in uu

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wochien is super relevant and still owns you with giga/doesnt take much from ice beam

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yes slowbro actually does well vs the rest talk foul play knock off variant

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but quags does well vs it too

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the other grass type i sort of combine into one, decid/bramble (but decid way more common these days)

strange charm
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What about if (and a big one) if Chesnaught or even Breloom drops from OU to UU?
SHould I handle it with Salamence, Decidueye, Sylveon etc?

slender peak
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decid takes ice beam really well esp as, as i said before, spdef is way more common, and slowbro is always terrified of instant death fromleaf storm so it cant stay in at all. i guess slowbro ice beam does fairly well into bramble but unfortunately bramble isnt that common anyways

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the last grass is really brute bonnet but again it doesnt take much from synthesis, yes slowbro is probably better into it than quag, but both are very bad and as you mentioned brute probably rather take ice beam than a toxic

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i guess im forgetting about rotom grass but i dont think slowbro is notably better into it than quags

slender peak
strange charm
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Yeah ok

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The other point I was concerened is Salamence, but Sylveon can help Quag take down the brute

slender peak
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feel free to keep posting new versions of the team or whatever but i might reply less quickly, need to work

strange charm
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@slender peak
This is my updated team (from the new reccomendations): https://pokepast.es/3099006ea96f9b4d
Just two question, should I have Tera Blast on Sylveon for coverage (e.g Water to handle Quaquaval)
And is defog support okay since I have spikes and stealth rock support

slender peak
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love it!! although i'd use your mence spread you posted earlier

strange charm
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Lol i forgot to put it earlier

slender peak
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id run like steel on sylveon, thats standard

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i might swap your quag and scizor items btw

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lefties for scizor

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hdb for quag

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scizor just really likes lefties to set up on talon's brave bird much more easily

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assuming you tera fire ofc

strange charm
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Is defog support ok for the team (since i have spikes and stealth rock)

slender peak
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yeah ideally you want spin but its fine you just play longer games

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its like by itself defog is not going to put you at a disadvantage

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at worst it just resets things

strange charm
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I see
Thanks @slender peak
Hopefully the tier shifts will work in our favour

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I still don't know how everyone can easily adapt to any tier shift

slender peak
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me neither tbh

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it takes a lot of effort imo

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you're welcome

foggy swallow
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thanks pif

slender peak
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welcome to smogon discord~~

slender peak
earnest basalt
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and what's Sr?

slender peak
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sr stands for stealth rocks

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basically because switching is such an important part of 6v6, most teams consider SR as necessary

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it also makes sure you dont have to worry much about things like uturn spammers and focus sash

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i think replacing hydreigon for krook makes sense

earnest basalt
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Hm okay, what about the others?

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Like tentacruel

slender peak
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i like tenta here

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im thinking maybe run enough speed for jolly krook if you dont already

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esp because you have hp fire scizor for opposing scizor already so you dont need that much def on tent

earnest basalt
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So everything is okay?

slender peak
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but i would say the team is at least okay

foggy swallow
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thanks pif (again)

slender peak
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I am glad you are no longer surprised

twilit harbor
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slender peak
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i sort of like tera ice on this weavile

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electric works but i think mainly with sd tera blast

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my instinct is to make salamence bulkier and modest for better scizor mu but idk if you can afford it being relatively quaq weak

scarlet yew
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scarlet yew
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Not sure what to do for the 6th slot

foggy swallow
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oh uh

lean monolith
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we only rate full teams sorry

foggy swallow
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this is meant for complete teams

scarlet yew
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Oh

foggy swallow
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yeah thanks romanji goat

scarlet yew
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Alright I'll try to think of something and get back

scarlet yew
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Does max hp max atk Chestnaught count as a wall already or should I fit another one in

foggy swallow
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uh

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what are you trying to wall with it

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i think right now theteam lacks a defensive core

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so no harm in doing that though

slender peak
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thanks mesprit

scarlet yew
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Yes thank you mesprit

ebon gate
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meow meow i made fire

slender peak
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i like it lots of good mons

slender peak
ebon gate
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Potentially yeah

slender peak
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i might run a moreoffensive tar here

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you already have rocks

ebon gate
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Band?

slender peak
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twave doesnt seem that necessary with a lot of fast mons already

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hard to pickbetween band and dd

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both are nice sets

ebon gate
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Yea

foggy swallow
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nope pif i think sandy shocks owns even more without av cyclizar

slender peak
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Yeah good point we have to fix the sandy weakness if we use boots

unique wren
proven parrotBOT
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foggy swallow
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im not rating a team created by "nolen loves slurs"

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next

unique wren
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the slurs i meant was the slurs that i can reclaim

foggy swallow
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😐

unique wren
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oh my god just rate it please

foggy swallow
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sure

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orthworm sucks im afraid

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the others steel types (even forretress imo) are just better than it

unique wren
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ok what now

foggy swallow
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atleast forre has the niche of tspikes + spin

unique wren
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isnt that like D tier Smile

ebon gate
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Not a UUer but

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That kilo set can’t be good right

foggy swallow
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specs kilowattrel is also a bad set especially not on rain teams

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theres a random polteagiest

ebon gate
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Yea idt that runs tera fire

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Like ever

foggy swallow
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can you explain what direction the team was meant to be going in

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so i can help you make something better

foggy swallow
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that doesnt help me

unique wren
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yeah uhm

foggy swallow
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what did you build around

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in particular

unique wren
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i actually don know how to explain it

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erm

foggy swallow
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😐

unique wren
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what

scarlet yew
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Judging by the sets did you want to make a Tea team?

unique wren
ebon gate
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Use a sample then

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If you want to try first

scarlet yew
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Ehh

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For me a lot of the UU charm came from team building

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So I was too stubborn to just use a sample

ebon gate
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Well Tbf if you are JUST starting it’s probably just to use a proven team

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And then after 10-20ish games then you can try building as you can have a solid idea of strong Meta threats and ideas from others

scarlet yew
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That's true

unique wren
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how do you have fun ❓

scarlet yew
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By

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Not playing OU

scarlet yew
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I'd say

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But it is difficult to experiment when you don't know the variables

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If you don't wanna go for a sample you could try checking out the VRs and see what to build around

unique wren
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what are vrs

foggy swallow
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viability rankings

unique wren
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ok

hallow star
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hallow star
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First UU team

slender peak
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Generally speaking I do think facade is better than thief on cb scizor so you can spam vs talonflame more easily and encore is better than twave on tink so you can set up rocks on hazard control more easily

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Slightly more specifically I think maybe the one thing the team is missing is some physical bulk and there’s some space to add. In given you have double ground and very sufficient amount of hazards

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I was thinking there’s a slight weakness to scizor and tar here because your talon lacks wisp and can serve as an entry point for tar

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Maybeee you could run water tauros over gastro although you become a bit more sandy weak and mence weak, I think if you do that maybe make your sandy tera ice for mence and also spikes over tbolt so you keep spikes

foggy swallow
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i think cb scizor in general isnt good

hallow star
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Alr Will try your suggestions thx

bronze glen
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@proven parrot

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bronze glen
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Oh nvm just had to use normal link without words

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I thought bot broken

slender peak
# bronze glen https://pokepast.es/5fbefeaf8f3272ff

nice fatness i like fat teams

i think normally they have to run a volt immune or else you get pummeled by volt switch uturn spam so i might consider mega steelix over klefki, which still checks workup pidgeot quite well and np heal togekiss somewhat well

obviously that means you can't run mega slowbro anymore so you could either just make it like a z move (i'll talk about tenta in a second) or just turn it into a chesnaught which still checks terrakion somewhat well (especially with z fighting/grass) and gives you spikes that klefki had and a ground resist which oyu currently lack

tenta i think can run sludge bomb and enough speed for max speed togekiss, maybe over toxic spikes, with maybe black sludge, especially if your other mons are using z move. you still have 2 wish mons to recover you

if you add steelix, then your blissey doesn't necessary need rocks (or you could make steelix a rest/curse set for an extra sweeper)

i do suggest synchronize on umbreon, inner focus wont let you beat togekiss anyways and there arent that many other flinches, synchronize lets you bounce back toxics from things like hippo

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anyways i do enjoy fat teams, if you want to keep talking about your team, feel free to ping

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oh i'd also run knock over scald or toxic on alo, knock is just very useful on stall to slowly chip the opp

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maybe toxic here, esp if you dont use chest, because you need scald for krook as you lack ground resist (but i would use chest probs)

tender steppe
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tender steppe
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I try to make rain uu for gen 7 but not sure what to add or remove

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It's kinda a mess

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Up

wispy peak
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rains just not really viable in sm uu without drizzle unfortunately

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if u did want to play something like this then ur hsarpedo and lanturn arent really doing anything though, you'd want to use scizor to abuse the fire softening, use special toed etc

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cover yourself better vs things like amoonguss and primarina too

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probably want ur own amoonguss among other things

tender steppe
wispy peak
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it means having to run suboptimal mons/sets, lets hippo just hard in on them, they dont get the momentum and entry etc

tender steppe
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Hmm thx what about the sun team did they work good or not

wispy peak
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not really manual weather is pretty dodgy in this tier

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u can meme around with it but rain both of them arent very good at it

tender steppe
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Ohk thx what's kinda team good in gen 7 uu

wispy peak
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all of HO, BO, Balance, Semistall, Stall are good in the tier

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just not weather teams

tender steppe
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Ok I will try to make a ho because I can't stall and it gives me depression will be back after making one

autumn vault
bronze glen
slender peak
# autumn vault https://pokepast.es/07215da4ed93f640 USUM UU anyone?

sorry for the late reply and feel free to tag if you want to talk further

very good mons and decent team already, i think to make it a bit more meta/reliable

  1. you should have defog somewhere, i like the rotom set quite a bit though so if you dont want to put defog on it, you can make emp defog and put rocks on nidoq

  2. generally speaking, that scizor set works best on hyper offense, which your team isn't. normally you want roost or choice band to be most effective, i'd pick one of those sets here and also make scizor uturn since it makes a voltturn core with rotom h

  3. i like it overall, besides these two relatively small/easy changes, i might think bigger picture the team is pretty slow as well (so band scizor for stronger priority might make sense). since you have SR on nidoqueen, i might make krook a pursuit scarf set to make your team faster and stop something like latias from running through you if it has the right coverage for malt/emp

vague belfry
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https://pokepast.es/539b37509706f6fd Here's my current UU team.

I generally lead with haxorus as she is a reliable sweeper with earthquake, ground tera and mold breaker. She also counters Tinkaton fantastically.

Trailblaze on mimikyu gives an efficient way to raise speed after setting up with swords dance, while also countering Quagsire and Gastrodon. Same goes for Zoroark with Grass Knot, with the added bonus of weight based damage that counters donphan and sandstorm setters.

Scizor's bullet punch gets rid of focus sash speed demons :)

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vague belfry
scarlet yew
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No point in spreading the last 4 EVs

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You need at least 4 EVs in one stat to actually get an increase

scarlet yew
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We don't have a special Foul Play yet

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Other than that Hax doesn't exactly strike me as a nice scarfer

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I don't see why you would want Aqua Tail when you've got more reliable mons to deal with ground types

scarlet yew
unique wren
lean monolith
# vague belfry https://pokepast.es/539b37509706f6fd Here's my current UU team. I generally le...

ok this team seems like it has a good start for a hyper offense team but obviously needs improvement.

  1. Get rid of quag
    you need to get the most out of ho team for a better rocks lead like Sandy Shocks.

  2. Iron Jug > Bisharp

Your team struggles with speed so it can fit on your team, giving you a somewhat better psyterrain and wo-chien matchup. Run focus blast in the last slot for nuking tyranitar

  1. Gyarados > Hax

I’d put Dragon Dance Gyarados over haxorus since it really doesn’t accomplish much and can be exploited by flying/fairy types easily.

  1. Other set improvements

Made Scizor bulky Tera fire swords dance to not be exploited by talonflame. It’s also a much better trailblaze user than mimikyu. Speaking of which, I made it life orb over figy and shadow claw over tb.

Lastly, I made zoro choice specs to nuke more targets since agility really doesn’t do anything when it’s already pretty fast.

https://pokepast.es/1b13c9a469b2a7d7 here’s the paste for how it would turn out. Feel free to give any feedback of how it turns out!

||gsc uu|| so it doesn’t ping the other raters.

slender peak
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thanks romanji

vague belfry
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Also, the reason I put 1 in each EV is because otherwise it won’t let me battle in custom games, idk why and it keeps doing it

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Makes it easier to use my teams with friends

rare nexus
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feedback pls

proven parrotBOT
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unkempt knoll
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https://pokepast.es/5e9a1b3bf703deca hisui goodra dropped to UU, so i just HAD to try it out! First time building for UU, how did I do? Would like to keep lucario and goodra, please.

proven parrotBOT
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low kernel
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it's also way too soon to give feedbacks on UU teams

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we know nothing about the tier

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yet

unkempt knoll
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Oh

undone raft
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Due to the massive recent tier shift, UU rates are on hold for the meta to stabilize!

vapid spire
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UU rates are back up!

foggy swallow
keen needle
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low kernel
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remove cc / wild charge and put e-speed somewhere

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I feel like you really really need some hazard control, if you're choosing the path to not play boots Arcanine-H

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otherwise you're just gonna come twice on the field and die to hazard

keen needle
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Oh I forgot to put defog on talon

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why do I need espeed if im playing scarf harcanine

versed solar
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dragon dancers and quaquaval

unkempt knoll
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Wait a minute I forgot treads exists now, could I replace hippo with treads?

foggy swallow
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umm

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i dont think so

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you dont really want a third fighting weakness

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and a fourth ground weakness

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i dont think lucario is very good on balance teams, its best on hyper offense type teams

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i think you could swap the lucario for a rapid spin quaquaval

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and also swap the cyclizar for nasty plot tornadus therian for some more speed and a potential wincon

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i dont think the alomomola is that neccesary either and could be swapped for some sort of fast pivot

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to help get goodra in safely

unkempt knoll
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What’s the quaq set too btw, I can’t find it on the strategy dex

foggy swallow
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Quaquaval @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Moxie
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 248 HP / 16 Atk / 176 Def / 68 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Rapid Spin
  • Aqua Step
  • Close Combat
  • Roost
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heres a duck set

unkempt knoll
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Ty

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there’s a cool lokix set you can run to take advantage of skeledirge really well

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let me get it real quick

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Ability: Tinted Lens  
Tera Type: Bug  
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Jolly Nature  
- First Impression  
- U-turn  
- Throat Chop  
- Taunt```
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I’d also not recommend running both rocks and spin on the same set

versed solar
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why not?

lean monolith
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you could run rocks arcanine and still be an offensive threat with future sight

lean monolith
versed solar
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arcanine over who

lean monolith
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skeledirge

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also ditch Tera ice on gapdos

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All you need is stabs

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thunderous kick can be way better in endgames

versed solar
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k

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and then tera fighting?

lean monolith
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I prefer flying but you can run whatever

versed solar
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could you post an arcanine spread?

lean monolith
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just max speed max attack

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stabs morning sun rocks

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wisp over morning sun is an option

versed solar
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intimidate or rock head?

lean monolith
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rock head of course

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Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Normal
Jolly Nature
- Head Smash
- Flare Blitz
- Extreme Speed
- Stealth Rock```
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i lied you really need espeed

versed solar
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i could make gapdos banded cuz i have 2 mons with priority

lean monolith
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maybe iron head over volt can work but it’s ok

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the team is too slow you would want scarf gapdos

versed solar
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ok

lean monolith
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even with priority

versed solar
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thanks for the help

lean monolith
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anytime

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not sure whats the best uu screens setter now

low kernel
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To be honest I feel like Screens HO are not the best atm

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I feel like regular HO ate better

keen needle
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how does regular ho work?

slender peak
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thundy is common bc it gives you a volt immune and means you dont have to run treads for it

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skele with flame charge is also common because it gives you some bulk

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scizor is common bc priority

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haxorus is a dd sweeper that beats unaware w/ moldbreaker

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the other mons you use,edge and hydreigon, are pretty good too

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a few ho run scarf zapdos i see to deter defog and just extra speed

keen needle
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https://pokepast.es/d028de76f496e1b6
first run at a 2v2 team basically in 10 years using concepts i like rather than good concepts, really looking for any upgrades but i wanna keep a support thundurus and contrary assault vest enamorus (oops realize wrong chat)

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supple sandal
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yeah just noticed that

foggy swallow
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yeah

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oopsie daisies

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would recommend having a ghost somewhere on here ifyou wanna commit to the webs style (not sure i would boots are fairly common on fast things as are fast flyings), breloom set doenst make a huge amount of sense since its like perpetually walled by ghosts too

wispy peak
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basculegion could work over quav for that, can also just put like a gengar / zoroak / polteageist on too

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wispy peak
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i feel like you could just run roost over iro head on mence tbh

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but if there was a good reason you had for running it u defo could keep it still

brave temple
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alr thanks again

elfin nacelle
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hi, I'm new 😄

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I recently built a team for doubles with a contrary lurantis, but I feel that it doesn't work

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can you guys give me some advice with it??
I'll leave the team here:

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I decided to put lurantis an assault vest instead of smth like a life orb cuz I need em to survive as much as possible (its basically the main of the team)

slender peak
# elfin nacelle

https://pokepast.es/ if you put your team in that link and post it, i think it will ping the raters, but i think you should put it in the doubles channel (there is a dou channel, this one is for singles uu)

elfin nacelle
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Oh

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Srry

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I’ll post it there then

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would love some feedback on my team, haven't tried it out yet <3

lean monolith
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erm

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that avalugg set is very

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tbh most of these sets aren’t good at all

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it has like 3/6 members that are good members that need reworking for the sets

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like just start off with tink, cyclizar, and slowking

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have tink be the rocker

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knock over ice spinner and Draco meteor over dtail on cyclizar

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and surf and bold nature on slowking

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that’s a solid core

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then run something like arcanine as a breaker

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feel free to try it out and see how you like it

vague belfry
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ohhh alright thank you!

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Also arc dosent have wild charge it has double edge now

versed solar
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i’m not great with teambuilding either but i can help with the sets

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drop curse for rocks on quag

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and volt switch for knock off on treads

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dark and ghost are similar offensively so both dark pulse and shadow ball is redundant

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you could swap dark pulse for either flamethrower or focus blast

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rillaboom is kinda weird and ampharos just isn’t good but i’d leave how to change them to someone better then me

serene sparrow
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Alr thank you

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jaunty charm
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Ah

barren anvil
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@leaden blaze

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Official channel for UU help

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Post the team

leaden blaze
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oh didnt see it\

barren anvil
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Lol

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@wispy peak available rn?

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barren anvil
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Ah

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I pinged for nothing

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Insane

leaden blaze
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Damn

wispy peak
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cyc doesnt belong on something like this at all imo

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scizor would much rahter be an SD set on HO builds too

barren anvil
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Yeah i said the same

leaden blaze
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Gyara is absolute GOAT, it absolutely smashes ground types (and Quaquavel lol), and with Taunt shuts down Quag, and Wisp dirge

barren anvil
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But idk what to replace with because

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Am not good at game

wispy peak
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i think ur on the right path to have somethng thats like ghost / water / electric resistant etc in that slot to help with a few threat sbut

leaden blaze
wispy peak
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perhaps iron leaves would be a niec fit there

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doesnt ahve that ghost resist but has the other resistances

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and u can do a like SD trailblaze booster energy set

barren anvil
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Yeah

wispy peak
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salso provides some nice base speed and stuff

barren anvil
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Also esta

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We both thought enam was feeling weird but couldnt tell why

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Is there anything or are we hallucinating

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Lmfao

leaden blaze
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I sent the version with Polteageist, but I used the team only with Enamorus T which even tho it won some games on itself showed to be really frail

wispy peak
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i havent seen that specific sample team before could you link it

leaden blaze
wispy peak
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oh its in pins

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nm

barren anvil
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Im a screens lover too yeah

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I might steal and play this ngl lmfao

leaden blaze
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Shame Sandy was banned

wispy peak
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i dont see this team unless im being dumb

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but enam is good yea

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either cm double dance or like cm 2a/3a sorta stuff on screens is neat

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cm offensive quickclaw on screens is nasty

leaden blaze
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It was a double spin bulky offense, but some mons were terrible, like Bramble which just kinda died to everything

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and I thought Enam was much better than Sylveon

wispy peak
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oh ok its the second post this is not actually asample team if its not in the OP

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and its from may which is before all the home drops happened

leaden blaze
barren anvil
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Yeah

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This is looking good

leaden blaze
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What does SD Scizor run for its item? Life orb?

wispy peak
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it wasn't approved if its not in the OP of the post

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the rejected samples just werent moved out of the thread

barren anvil
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I mean yeah thats not a sample at all

wispy peak
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also yea life orb

barren anvil
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That doesn't make it illegal to modify and ask for rating tho

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So long as you properly modify

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Also yeah scizor is LO on SD

wispy peak
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yea its just an outdated team from an old meta that doesn't exist anymore is all im saying

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so iwouldnt really focus too much on it at all

barren anvil
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On the sample you mean

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?

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Or on this team we're building rn?

wispy peak
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the samlpe

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well more specifically nonsample but yea

barren anvil
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Yeah

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LMAO

barren anvil
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Lmfao

leaden blaze
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So do i just continue to modify this team or to just give up and pick 1 of the Sample teams?

leaden blaze
wispy peak
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i wouldnt do that personally

leaden blaze
# wispy peak i wouldnt do that personally

Thanks man, really appreciated of you to take your time to explain something to lowly me. Also, I greatly recommend Gyara+Threads core, against Kleavor leads you Intimidate and then switch to Threads, basically giving you free rocks AND they take damage with Rocky Helmet. Probably wouldnt work in high ladder tho

wispy peak
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na that would probably work fine in practice

leaden blaze
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Also works on H Arcanine leads

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lean monolith
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reserving this rate

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Threw together this team the other day, just want opinions

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Was considering swapping leftovers for cloak on Zarude to prevent fake out, but not entirely sure

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And yes, skill swap IS for the memes (and it works lol)

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primal spire
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Ah, my mistake.

wispy peak
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Np

lean monolith
# unkempt knoll https://pokepast.es/bed940c33777452f would like to keep goodra, if possible

ok I would change the goodra Tera to fairy, the rest is fine (good job creeping for dirge but I’d run 68 just in case)

Cyc is fine

I’d have physdef gastrodon > quag here since it’s much better due to being less passive and double unaware is kinda od

If you’re running ep dirge just run shadow ball over wisp

grass knot over u-turn torn can help you break gastro pre-tera

Quaq should probably be sub sd to set up easier on mola

unkempt knoll
lean monolith
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the spread is fine

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if you feel like it’s too weak you can run max attack adamant

unkempt knoll
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Alright

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Ty

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https://pokepast.es/8eabe3ec39c0b6c8 It's a Gen4 UU Team that I don't really got to practice, so I need some thought and changes, the concept is simple, having as much abilities that can prevent a certain type entirely, Idk if it's the best way to do this concept and even if it's going to be strong or not, I just want something that can be used for fun and for surprising opponents of this tier

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I also don't know if it's the right channel to post this

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Since it's Gen4

livid token
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Welp

foggy swallow
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Nah this is the right channrl

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I don't think the idea of having alot of immunities for the sake of it is very good

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Im not really the greatest help with DPP team building but I think @wispy peak would be able to help you out

livid token
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Thx

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(Repost)

low kernel
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I can give you raw advises but I feel like this would work better with some context

unique wren
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I guess a balance team?

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foggy swallow
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you super lose to breloom

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i do not think you need two rapid spinners probably

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you also lose to thund t

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i think swap the quagsire for gastrodon with float stone

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get rid of slowking, although it is a bulky mon its main purpose is momentum and stall doesnt need that really

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swap it for calm mind slowbro galar with safety goggles

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swap cyclizar for blissey with heal bell aswell

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i dont like your ev spreads, if you want me to help fix them ill talk you through it

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ping me later or something

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frank ocean
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Bro i love that u use my favorite pokemon chandelure, and it's pretty good 8.4/10

lean monolith
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hey guys uu rate are open again drop teams if you want to below

ebon gate
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Uu more like U EWWW

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gottem.

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foggy swallow
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maushold is not very good right now im afraid

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neither is mimikyu

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having three grass types really isnt ideal and it hurts the teams defensive synergy alot

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the hydreigon set also isnt very good

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most of them are running sub nasty plot right now

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ummm theres a whole lot wrong with this and i think it just needs to be reworked probably

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@onyx mica ping me sometime and let me know what mons you wanted to keep on the team around so i can help out

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unique wren
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is this any good for natdex

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i am going for a passive control and forcing switches and things but kartana is a wallbreaker and can nuke if im in a bad spot

versed solar
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this is for sv uu btw

ebon gate
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Its for any uu gen

wispy peak
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there isn't any UU tier with kartana in it though

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is this for a natdex?

unique wren
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yes

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i always forget to say that which means i waste timeee

versed solar
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there’s a separate channel for non ou natdex formats

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sorry if i was just completely wrong

unique wren
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idk

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oh yeah there is but it isnt open

ebon gate
unique wren
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and i rly jsut want my team to be tated

ebon gate
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You can go into compgen gor stuff like this

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Ping runoisch

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He knows uu

foggy swallow
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go to national dex other tiers rates

ebon gate
wheat wind
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I have trouble against set up sweepers and Meowscarada but I think that's just skill issue on my part

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The -speed nature and 4 speed IVs on Alomomola is to be 1 point slower thank Conkeldurr

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foggy swallow
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no it doesnt seem like a skill issue

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you just lose to meowscarada

wheat wind
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If its a Meowscarada vs Meowscarada lead, who ever wins the speed tie or is scarfed and goes for U-Turn wins

foggy swallow
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you also have no real fighting type switchins or iron hands checks

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specs thund isnt very good, i would make it boots and also swap flash cannon for focus blast and flying terablast for psychic

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make meow scarf

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i think swap quaq for a gweezing

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i would run spdef heatran on this sorta team

wheat wind
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What does that help me with?

foggy swallow
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248 hp 96+ spd 164 speed

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it helps with things like tornadus and opposing tran

wheat wind
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Oh ok

foggy swallow
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also a better meow switch in

wheat wind
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Does Heatran sometimes run Flame Body or is it just people that forget to change it 'cause I've ran into a few Flame Body Heatrans

foggy swallow
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i dont think thats a good set

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but sometimes people run that

wheat wind
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I feel like I'm losing a lot of offensive pressure by getting rid of specs and band

foggy swallow
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nah

wheat wind
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But ig Thundy is still gonna 2shot the things it already 2shots

foggy swallow
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thund is a worse mon with a choice lock

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technically it does more damage

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but its less threatening

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because it cant change moves

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now i dont like mamoswine very muchy in this tier tbh

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maybe something like np hydreigon would work

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you have thund as a volt immune so i think your fine on that front

wheat wind
foggy swallow
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the changes i would make are:
quaq -> weezing galar
meow -> scarf
heatran -> spdef
thund -> boots and move changes
mamo -> sub np hydreigon

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also maybe change the mola set

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to the smogon one

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it just has a bit more spdef and makes you less shaky into heatran

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also ill give you a gweezing set and a hydreigon set if you need

wheat wind
foggy swallow
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prio isnt mandatory

wheat wind
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Ye but its good againts Meowscarada, Salamence and Hax

foggy swallow
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choice scarf play rough does a similar thing

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into those guys

wheat wind
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I run ohys def gweezing?

foggy swallow
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yeah

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236 hp 96+ def 176 spe

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wisp defog pain split strange steam

wheat wind
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Whats the speed for?

foggy swallow
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azumarill

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and other base 50's

wheat wind
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Boots and Levitate?

lean monolith
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Over boots

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this is not

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the natdex uu place

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we told you that before

unique wren
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crap sorry

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any idea when natdex non ou opens

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ive been wating to get the team rated for so long

ebon gate
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Staff doesnt open it themselves they just wait for the comphelpers to say they think the meta is stable enough

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I would assume probably after the Kartana Suspect

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I tried this team out but it wasn’t great so I want to know how it can be improved

foggy swallow
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your on the right track

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i think replace scizor with eject button amoonguss and thund with overqwil

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also make treads rocks over ice spinner and basc specs

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alternatively to making basc specs

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you could put a floatzel in that slot

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i which might be better

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https://pokepast.es/4ae59acb6d103041
Tried my hand at making a scarf regidrago team. Alomomola + Heatran + Treads + Torn feel solid together, and added Regidrago + Weavile to be breakers/sweepers

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it also gives you more of a better match up into volcanion

foggy swallow
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treads should be air baloon and i dont think mola fits the pace of the team

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i think washtom could be better

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in that slot

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otherwise i think its fine

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maybe run more spdef on heatran too

dense sedge
dense sedge
foggy swallow
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sorry i didnt mean spdef i meant bulk

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i normally run 248 hp 96+ spa 164 spe

versed solar
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i just do 160 to outspeed adamant scizor

foggy swallow
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yes

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it just speed creeps things that hit 230 speed for adamant scizor

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thats the only reason

versed solar
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oh ok cool

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Hax sweep team

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Using worse thunderous cuz of prankster thunder wave against set up sweepers and ogrepon grass embody aspect

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I might invest less into speed with heatran but it’s nice out speeding any out her heatrans

lean monolith
# distant ridge https://pokepast.es/4712e16070724fa2 Any improvements I could make?
  1. I’d take make the mola set this
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Def / 216 SpD
Tera Type: Fairy
Relaxed Nature
- Wish
- Protect
- Mirror Coat
- Flip Turn```
gives you more spdef and can let you knock out unsuspecting special attacks like torn helping for meow to break better with band

thundurus to boots with focus blast over tbolt

tflame is bad. Replace it with offensive heatran

Tera dark in meow for boosted knocks

Bulky treads with rocks and spin over Luna, it doesn’t fit here

Drei can be your scarfer
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dense sedge
# fossil epoch https://pokepast.es/7e355172a211ba97 rate uu

I'll assume you aren't trying to build hyper-offense with this team

The Meowscarada set you are currently using is more of an HO lead set, which doesn't appear to be what you are going for. I would probably make it either HDB or Choiced, With Knock Off/Flower Trick/ U-turn/ Play Rough being the 4 moves (+ 252 attack/252 speed jolly)

Band Zapdos-Galar isn't that great currently, so I would use scarf instead. If it's not HO, then changing the rotom-set to a more bulky one is probably worth. I haven't used munkidori/kleavor enough to say whether they do fit or not.

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If you are trying to build HO, I would probably go with a couple of different mons (lead meowscarada is a solid
HO lead)

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I like the eject button among idea

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I think thund should be a specs torn

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I think you would prefer a floatzel over azumarill

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Just swap iron head on treads for knock

pure hearth
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what set would u recommend for the eject amoongus?

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spdf, spore, giga, sludge bomb, foul play?

foggy swallow
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You prefer physdef

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That set sounds fine

pure hearth
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o ok

foggy swallow
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Otherwise

merry falcon
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snow

foggy swallow
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Don't run snow

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It's ass

foggy swallow
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Idk why you have a kleavor

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Also imo your too weak to tornadus

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I would swap the kleavor for something that helps in that mu

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Iron treads should be air baloon

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And munkidoro should be u turn over parting shot for toxic chain

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Meow should be spikes probably

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Instead of cb

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Then you could either go specs munkidori and scarf go gapdos or CB gapdos scarf dori

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CB gapdos is super strong and underexplored methinks

karmic lark
karmic lark
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Right now you are lacking anti volt switch mons (ground types) outside of the easily chipped thundy and fighting types like liligant and breloom and kinda run you over easily

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I recommend minimizing your typing similarities (getting rid of cloyster or sandslash and alo) and trying to add more mons that resist types you hate to fight like a fairy type wish support sylveon or poison type mons that don’t die to breloom or bugs like gengar or okidoki

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I can give some more direction with a paste in a sec

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something like this

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maybe with some more edits but its a track you can follow somewhat

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i've got some others using cetitan i can show you as well if you want

onyx mica
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also yeah i had been noticing maushold and hydreigon underpreforming, though mimikyu has been doing fine honestly

merry falcon
merry falcon
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this definitely looks good thank you for the helpful input

foggy swallow
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i reckon you swap meowscarada for weavile

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and torterra for iron treads with a air balloon

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chesnaught is fine to keep but its set needs to change

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run synthesis body press knock off spikes

onyx mica
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but i really like my current chesnaught set, it's been working really well for me

foggy swallow
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whats it beat

onyx mica
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uh a lot of things?

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it's difficult to kill quickly and leftovers + leech seed + spiky shield means i do a ton of passive damage and get a ton of passive healing

foggy swallow
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passivity

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is the problem

onyx mica
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ok but if i need to quickly do a ton of damage i have body press

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and i can shut down setup with taunt

foggy swallow
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it letsin tornadus and things super free

onyx mica
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yeah that is in fact its main weakness, but i dont see how the changes you're suggesting would alleviate that

foggy swallow
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getting spikes or knocking torn off makes some progress

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whereas this set always loses to it and does nothing

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if they have a torn

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and like 50% of teams have a torn

onyx mica
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also why weavile? it does less damage than meowscarada and has a worse defenisve typing, is it just about coverage?

foggy swallow
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its faster and has better offensive typing and swords dance

onyx mica
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oh yeah swords dance helps

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also why replace torterra with iron treads? i feel like replacing maushold would make more sense, since torterra does sometimes manage to do a lot of damage, whereas maushold is generally useless atm

foggy swallow
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sorry its dinner time for me

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brb

versed solar
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treads give your team hazards and more reliable removal

onyx mica
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yeah im adding treads but im replacing maushold instead of torterra

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torterra isn't great but it's not bad and it's really fun when it works

versed solar
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torterra is just inconsistent

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basically useless before a smash, struggles to find the time to smash, and is still vulnerable after one to basically any scarfer and ice shard

onyx mica
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ok yes dying instantly to ice shard has in fact been a major problem

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but maushold dies instantly to most things

versed solar
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yeah maushold isnt good either

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probably worse

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if you really want to run torterra id switch to tera rock

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or steel

onyx mica
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oh yeah fair

versed solar
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or water

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or fire

foggy swallow
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i think ideally

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we replace both things

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iron treads is there for a stealth rocker and also a rapid spinner

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also a volt immune and steel type and with air baloon a sandy shocks check

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stone nacelle
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from my testing, I like how it works for the most part - but I am super annoyed by thundurus-t right now

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Sandy shocks is really my only switchin to it, and it can't hit it back unless it wants to randomly blow tera and pray to win a speed tie

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the easiest replacement would seem to be the weezing slot, but at the same time I'm not sure I can afford to lose the defogger and if I do drop it Salamence becomes a big problem

wispy peak
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having elec torn-t like u do should help a lot with that mu

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but having other speed than just torn would be useful for that

stone nacelle
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hmm... I probably could hold the tera on torn for it yea

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another thing im considering is swapping hoopa's set to band

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band and specs are both great breakers, but I think using band would marginally improve my matchup against hydreigon by giving me access to drain punch and would probably improve the matchup against volt turn by more reliably threatening wishtect alomomola

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regardless of what I do though I think SD weavile is also a big issue, especially if it happens to be paired with dd mence

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the two of them together can collectively hurt weezing then the other one can power through the team

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low kernel
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Here is not nat dex uu

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It's ss regular uu

void briar
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Other?

low kernel
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Idk

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Prob y

frail burrow
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woah

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this looks like a decent team

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i think i would make sandy shocks air balloon

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probably just lefties heatran but you can keep air baloon on that too if you want

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and i would swap the hydreigon for a weavile

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im not a very big scarf hydreigon fan rn

frail burrow
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band or sd? went for hydrei to go against meow plus better speed control

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wait weavile faster nvm

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maybe band with low kick for goodra and mamo?

foggy swallow
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sd

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band is good but i think the main appeal of it is beatup

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and you dont have that many highattack stat mons to abuse beatup with

frail burrow
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keep shard right?

versed solar
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yes

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sd/shard/knock/ice move

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frank ocean
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this is duu but thoughts?

foggy swallow
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not the right place

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put it in the "other" category

foggy swallow
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a few changes i would make though

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swap hoopa for a rapid spin quaquaval

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make heatran 248 hp 96+ spa 164 spe

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make tornadus the smogon av set and tera electric

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make dirge tera dragon with 248 hp 16+ def 236 spd and 8 speed

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with terablast dragon earth power torch song slack off

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make weavile the smogon set for sd

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and i would make sandy shocks air baloon because otherwise you lose to opposing shocks and things

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thats about everything i think

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karmic lark
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The borderline triple scarf

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You madlad

brazen veldt
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oh well not anymore lmao
mola got banned
guess i'll resort to scream tail

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foggy swallow
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i dont understand why these pokemon are being paired together at all

unique wren
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idk tbh
but hey so far it seems to be working

unique wren
foggy swallow
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i think

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sd scizor is way better than cb

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i dont really like scarf hydreigon much

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scream tail is bad

unique wren
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yeah i was thinking the same
but what do i replace sd with

foggy swallow
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what do you want to keep

unique wren
unique wren
foggy swallow
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can i get rid of jirachi pretty please

unique wren
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hmm
maybe
but again i need it for quick switch ins and maybe heal something up

foggy swallow
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idt you do

unique wren
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oh yes i do need it
many of my previous teams suffer from bad longevity

foggy swallow
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is this a rain team?

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or just a team with a pelipper

unique wren
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not rain but i do rely on it quite a bit

foggy swallow
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oki

unique wren
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half my team is weak to fire

unique wren
foggy swallow
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i think

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we should go with pelipper scizor bellibolt meowscarada +2

unique wren
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what is the bellibolt for

foggy swallow
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tornadus check

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paras stuff

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physical wall guy

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hes funny

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okay in the last two slots

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there needs to be hazard control and a ground type

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and also stealth rocks

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so i guess that means pelipper meowscarada bellibolt scizor iron treads +1

unique wren
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do i really need a hazard control
my team doesn't struggle with hazards alot

foggy swallow
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apart from pelipper this loses to spikes

unique wren
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isn't hydreigon immune to spikes

foggy swallow
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i really would prefer to get rid of that

unique wren
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hmm ok you do you
and what could the last slot be

foggy swallow
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i think ideally it would look like this

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keeps pelipper scizor and the grass type idea

unique wren
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the team looks rather frail don't you think

foggy swallow
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no?

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the old version is for sure frailer

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btw i think your pelipper set is inneficient with the evs

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its always more efficient to put your nature into your highest stat if possible

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Pelipper @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 248 HP / 64 SpA / 180 SpD / 16 Spe
Modest Nature

  • Surf
  • Hurricane
  • Roost
  • U-turn
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this has the exact same stats + 16 extra evs which i put into speed

foggy swallow
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so if you use the version i proposed

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run that pelipper ev spread i posted, the 16 speed can go into more spdef or defense or whatever

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i dont know why you are running spdef pelipper though?

unique wren
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i have ocd lmao

foggy swallow
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for bellibolt 248 hp 216+ defense 44 spd with slack off muddy water volt switch toxic

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for scizor 120 hp 136 spe 252+ atk with knock off u turn bullet punch

unique wren
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and sd right

foggy swallow
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yeah

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thanks

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for treads run the smogon set but replace lefties for air balloon and ice spinner for stealth rock

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just grab the smogon scarf meowscarada sprea

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d

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and i gave you a dogi spread on the paste already

unique wren
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why do you run 136 evs in speed
it's not outspeeding anything

foggy swallow
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its for uh

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neutral nature base 50's

unique wren
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ah alright
finally i have a team to climb ladder
i'll keep the old one to refine it a bit more
thank you

foggy swallow
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be careful around um

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hydreigon

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you have alot of mons that pressure it but also bellibolt lets it sub for free

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probably use dogi or peli to annoy it ?

unique wren
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i could maybe play around it
anyways great thanks

foggy swallow
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np

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https://pokepast.es/1343c589008dbffe hi everyone!! i've been trying to get into UU lately and even tho i like this team i cant get past 1300, anyone have tips for me? ty :3 (ideally i'd love to keep azu in the team since it's the pokémon i built the team around and i love it very much)

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https://pokepast.es/b56a0015bf899343
Hey all, trying to get into UU recently and would like some advice on my team. It's a balance team centered around Mienshao, and has worked pretty well so far, but I've been running into trouble vs spore users and trying to slot good hazard removal. Any advice is welcome, thanks!

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foggy swallow
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sorry for the backup of teams that need rates

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i will do some tomorrow when i have the time

stone nacelle
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Are non-raters welcome to provide suggestions? I'm not perfect or anything but I do at least have some simpler improvement ideas for some of the lower ladder teams

brazen veldt
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yd

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ye*

foggy swallow
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make azumarill into a floatzel

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its just a much better strong water move spammer in rain

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make scizor into a iron treads for hazard control and also hazards of your own

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i think all rain teams should have a specs tornadus t on them

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swap that for hydreigon

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swap weavile for a sd overqwil with either air balloon or life orb

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its a super threatening rain sweeper once it gets an sd

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and make the rotom into a basculegion female proba ly

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oh you said you want to keep azumarill, thats fine

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just keep the azumarill and make rotom into a floatzel instead

foggy swallow
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first off i think swap quagsire for a slowking to pivot in your meinshao and also provide future sight support for it

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make iron treads air balloon and put stealth rock on it instead of ice spinner, air balloon is for sandy shocks clodsire and opposing treads

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make rotom a bulky leftovers set

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swap slither wing for a boots meowscarada

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and swap clodsire for a av tornadus

foggy swallow
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you could also make sandy shocks stealth rock and plop a scizor

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a third option is making shocks into iron treads making quaq swords dance and adding amoonguss last

foggy swallow
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np

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stone nacelle
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imo av Azumarill will do a lot more for you than volcanion will

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you need a dragon resist for balance and right now specs hydreigon just presses buttons into your team

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that WILL make you weaker to Scizor though

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Dropping Gengar for iron hands might help with that, but I'm less certain so wait for a second opinion

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azu and hands will also collectively alleviate your massive weavile weakness

quasi elk
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Ye i had struggles with hydreigon and specially weavile in the past lol , gonna try those changes thx

dire jungle
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d:

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😛

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hi

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# cunning spade Uu rain team https://pokepast.es/985f718f09c41139 I kinda struggle with clodsire...

• Amoonguss is really great with with Eject Button on Rain teams cuz it provides free Momentum which is really valuable.
• In the same vibes you could opt for a SR user on your team. Iron Treads, Sandy Shocks and Tinkaton provide this. The first two can also pressure Quagsire.
• I think Psychic is mandatory in the current meta for Thundy-t since it allows it to dent both Clodsire and Amoonguss which are annoying for Rain teams.
• I think you should also replace either Quaquaval or Azumarill for a physical Swift Swimmer. Basculegion isn't that great here and you already has the female version. Floatzel or Barraskewda would fit well. They both are really fast under rain and have access to Flip Turn and can pack some coverage if you really struggle too much vs Clodsire.

cunning spade
low kernel
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Yep probably

grand bear
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hello i'm very new to competitive pokemon and wanted to make a UU doubles team and wanted some suggestions, mostly the idea came from seeing people use oricorio and volcarona who are 2 of my favorite pokemon, where volcarona uses fiery dance and quiver dance to get copied by oricorio, my reasoning for the rest of the team is murkrow for general support and a double feather dance, i'd give oricorio baton pass, lilligant is there for coverage and other dances. and i put slowbro and quagsire there because they seem to be able to work well together in tandem with surf slowbro and damp quagsire, i'm sure that it's full of flaws but that's the idea behind it, i haven't picked out all of the moves and things like that yet

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any tips are welcome, and thank you for your time

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(i'm not to well versed in the UU meta and especially the doubles meta so i'm just kind of eyeballing it)

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i'm fine with switching a lot of stuff around, i'm sure the slowbro and quagsire don't fit in as well, they are just my 2 favorite pokemons and i wanted to try and fit them in

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i'm also a big noivern fan so if there is a way to put him in i'd like that (i don't need to have the perfect meta team, i just want to have a functioning team with pokemon i like

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he does learn dragon dance after all

low kernel
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No double UU

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warm cargo
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In my games it fits really well

stone nacelle
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What is that oricorio spread doing?

warm cargo
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Gain more mileage out of the special def buffs from Qd

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And speed on conk is to outspeed no investment skelidurge

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Unfortunately knock doesn’t kill from full but it only takes a little chip

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