NatDex OU Rates

[feral canopy]

NO FOG

LOSE TO SPIKE

[pale spear]

So ?

[feral canopy]

dud

[pale spear]

U spike

[feral canopy]

ur gna lose to

boots weavile

boots lele

SpikeSpam

sd is broken tho.

So debatable.

[pale spear]

Ok then fog tias

[cold fog]

im getting mixed responses..

[pale spear]

Solve

[feral canopy]

.

Yeah

act

that works

fog latias also isnt bad

[cold fog]

fog instead of sub?

[feral canopy]

bc larias is normally bad

[pale spear]

Ye

[feral canopy]

Make it fog beam roost twave

BOOM

[pale spear]

???

[feral canopy]

then sd gliscor

[feral canopy]

U wouldnt get it

[pale spear]

Bro beam is a dead slot

[feral canopy]

The Oculars said so

[feral canopy]

BET GLISVOR

[pale spear]

U rnt the gliscor beater

[feral canopy]

dud

mono waterpon

ur glisc cplay

ur gna lose to him@dawg

[pale spear]

Sd fast ice fang

Gliscor

[feral canopy]

what do u even need anyways

[cold fog]

whats the set for sd glisc?

[feral canopy]

LOL

[pale spear]

Psyaura

[feral canopy]

:schizo:

[pale spear]

What i said above

[feral canopy]

😅

okurrr FINE

[pale spear]

Sdicefang and then hit like 244 speed careful nature

[feral canopy]

Im ngl tho

[cold fog]

sd ice fang eq and roost?

or

[feral canopy]

latias that dont beat waterpon

dud

[pale spear]

Yes

[feral canopy]

this whole team

6-0ed

by sd sp waterpon

WTF

[pale spear]

Literally I never found a single person

[cold fog]

does ferro not beat waterpon?

[pale spear]

That uses superpower

[feral canopy]

bro

thats the good set

act

bc everyone

is running bum ass solo waterpon cplay ferro

dont make sense

[feral canopy]

i use sp

🤭🤭🤭

[pale spear]

Care?

[cold fog]

so um should i run ice fang on gliscor or not

[feral canopy]

.

Ok but like fr

[pale spear]

Ye run fang here

[feral canopy]

surely this isnt sufficient waterpon cplay on this team

bc ur fastest mon waterpon

[cold fog]

this?

[feral canopy]

what r u gna do

[cold fog]

or

roost

[pale spear]

No roodt over facade

[feral canopy]

roost

u always run roost

Unless.

🤭

[cold fog]

max hp 244 speed

?

[feral canopy]

No

you run enough speed

to outspeed 244 speed careful gliscor

u run 244 hp

then u dump in spdef

[cold fog]

wait what attacks should i run on mtias again

roost, defog

[feral canopy]

roost psysphere fog

[cold fog]

and what

[feral canopy]

Altho

[cold fog]

alright

[feral canopy]

i still think

wave roost fog filler is better

so ur not mono lose to good waterpon sets

But wtv i suppose

[cold fog]

alr ill just try that out

[feral canopy]

frees up ur glisc to run koff or facade too if ur beam@last

[pale spear]

ice fang is a lure

ice beam isnt

its like redacted

[cold fog]

https://pokepast.es/4764e1c410855596

is that fine?

[pale spear]

pon shld be encore here

rest is fine pr sure

[cold fog]

but doesnt taunt make sure idont get statused?

by like a pex or gliscor

[pale spear]

encore punishes passive stuff better

it shuts down glisc more than taunt

[dusky carbon]

When is that

[green notch]

Mehh it's urs. I am just thankful u changed it

[feral canopy]

No

gliscor is not coming on sd gliscor to sd

ur bringing in gliscor on opposing sd gliscor to beat it

im ngl

beam gliscor honestly is a lure ATP

like

gliscor can normally comfortably setup on mtias

[pale spear]

ok w/e semantics

[feral canopy]

im ngl i expected ro do more

its kinda crazy tho

[feral canopy]

.

[pale spear]

no

[feral canopy]

STFUUU

[feral canopy]

if its not cm

ye

[pale spear]

nobody doesent tera on mtias

[feral canopy]

if i see shock

im not teraing

[pale spear]

this guy loves losing

what if im 3a

[feral canopy]

.

USE LATIOS

dud like

WHO

is running 3 latias

[pale spear]

me

latios is too bad to use unfortunatley

[feral canopy]

.

dud

3a latias

is just bad latios

???

what r u even using 3a latias for

[pale spear]

Bulk

[feral canopy]

FOR WHO

[pale spear]

I’m also under contract

To never use mtios

[feral canopy]

ok lets not get too far buddy

this guy cant even properly 2hko physdef alo

😅😅😅

[pale spear]

Exactly

[feral canopy]

No but like

what is the bulk for

yeah

that is a roll in alos favour

[pale spear]

Being defensive

[feral canopy]

aka it cant even do it properly

[feral canopy]

FOR WHAT

ye u beat 40% of alls

aloa

alos

well

40% of physdef ones

[pale spear]

If I had to pick between a special attacker that can’t 2hko alo and a special attacker that can’t 2hko alo but has more bulk

[feral canopy]

LOL

[pale spear]

I’m doing no2

[feral canopy]

ok

both still suck

[pale spear]

Ye

The secret lati set I used

Is best

[feral canopy]

.

which one

[pale spear]

The one w the broken move

[marsh blaze]

It's a secret

[feral canopy]

???

[marsh blaze]

[feral canopy]

which one

??

what

bro

[marsh blaze]

No one is running max hp in nd

[feral canopy]

ur first calc was right

max hp is bad

u dont get that much more bulk

u always run max defenses

[marsh blaze]

[feral canopy]

252 SpA Latios-Mega Psychic vs. 0 HP / 252 SpD Alomomola: 214-253 (45.4 - 53.7%) -- 41.8% chance to 2HKO

that is the calc

(correct one)

u take gliscor facade better

mmh

and yard fire move

but like

realistically

U shldnt be using either

[pale spear]

Terastallization bro

[feral canopy]

[pale spear]

Ye

Beam is a dead move slot

[marsh blaze]

[feral canopy]

at least u force tera

[pale spear]

Just bluff having it works good enough

[feral canopy]

No dud

once u reveal psychic move

IDC

[pale spear]

Ok fine

[feral canopy]

no one running 3a

[pale spear]

I’m not clicking anything except aura

Watchu gna do now

[feral canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/latias-gif-8203543

[pale spear]

Pls just use Tapu lele or smth

[feral canopy]

im ngl

Yeah

like

both latis defensive utility is so niche now anyways

tias at least still cms and wins (sometimes)

gliscor has the T word and runs super spdef now

kart is much less relevant n mostly runs scarf

yard is Balls with a capital B

sd chomp is much less relevant

u dont even beat brokenpon like

rain is barely a thing

[pale spear]

ok

[feral canopy]

defensive cores are all alo gking based

[pale spear]

• Mononobe no Futo

[feral canopy]

.

no way

u dud the dot

ur tryna be me so bad

[pale spear]

i forgot discord just canges the - to the do

tt

at the start

[feral canopy]

-The Innovator

[neat tusk]

What's the best mon in the tier?

[feral canopy]

gliscor

by far

[full blaze]

eon twins get soul dew in their respective teirs

[dusky carbon]

Yes

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[hollow basalt]

damn
bamboozled

[hollow basalt]

yeah but it's new soul dew
so it sucks

basically an expert belt but just for stabs

on two pokemon who's best niches are being a stored power setup sweeper / utility pokemon or a scarf sweeper

[spring imp]

https://pokepast.es/99597a95a8d2da62
i built this wacky team, pls tell me anything to change

uuh

is the bot alive

https://pokepast.es/99597a95a8d2da62

weh

[hollow basalt]

it only pings once every 6 hours

patience is a virtue

one of them will look at it eventually

[spring imp]

👍

[feral canopy]

Is this your own team

or is this some elses

[spring imp]

its my first attempt at making a balance team so its probably unoriginal

if its someone elses then ill make another

[feral canopy]

No it just

reminds of a gen8 team

and@im@p sure ive seen this before

but wtv its fine

what did u build this around

because both aegi and drei are very niche, and idt either are very good in general

corv is balls, that lando set is balls

[spring imp]

i see

ill make another team but was i atleast on an ok track on making a balance team

i built it around an aegi drei offensive synergy

[feral canopy]

AegiDrei

Man

the last time i heard those two in a sentence

was like

2021

[spring imp]

damn

im dated as hell

[neat tusk]

AegiDrei is some gen6 vgc term

[spice gust]

Trying bulky duel screens for once and loving any improvment suggestions https://pokepast.es/3f7935e0fc138b68

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[dusk flare]

bulky dual screens teams aren't gonna work because the ideal way to use screens is w a few setup sweepers that can take advantage of the bulk they don't normally have

just using fat mons is a waste because they don't do anything with the screens better than they already do

you can easily either take out screens and make this a bulky offense or keep screens and make a hyper offense w frail and fast sweepers that take advantage of them

[potent blade]

https://pokepast.es/239d4e4a6410116a

got to 1301 with only 1 loss 13 wins, any advice for the team?

[dusk flare]

many of the set choices here are suboptimal and don't really fall in line with what these mons are meant to do

what did you build this around

@potent blade if you didn't see this

[potent blade]

I built it to just try and get back into Nat Dex OU, I haven't played in about a month. Mostly supposed to be a Balanced Offense set, bulky pokemon with Heatran Dnite Great Tusk and good attackers, Diancie to break through certain harder walls like Moltres, Dnite, Body press to break steel counters. Great tusk is the spinner for the team and just a general attacker, Kyurem is for coverage and it's decent bulk, And kartana is a wall breaker/hyper offense counter with choice scarf to outspeed pokemon that threaten the team.

[potent blade]

Thank you btw lol I didnt see this

[marsh blaze]

Use cc over body press on tusk also why are you even running press on mdia

AV tran is also not good

[potent blade]

I did replace body press on tusk after posting it but press on mdia is to break things if diamond storm sets me up with enough defense. Typically works to break things like ferrathorn or just any steel type after or before mega evolving

[marsh blaze]

Mystical Fire & Earth Power deal with most steels anyway

And mfire deletes Ferro without relying on getting boosts from diamond storm first

[nova vapor]

https://pokepast.es/ed15e3a433631dba how is this for gen 8 nat dex

[nova vapor]

Clef needs flamethrower

[crude stump]

I think this is a little weak to rilla

You can probably try bank on pex

[nova vapor]

I added flamethrower so corv doesnt mega wall my team

Flamethrower over thunder wave

Actually maybe I should use fire blast if clef gets it

[crude stump]

I’d prefer flame over fblast if you’re not running LO clef like some gen6 set

still i think band or sd+2 rilla almost kills everything other than kart

[nova vapor]

Hmmm might need to make some edits maybe corv/zap over gliscor

I didnt even know clef ran thunder

So maybe zap defog zap to help against corv and rillaboom

hmmm is hp ice worth running over heatwave to on this team if i ran zap or does zap always use heatwave.

Nvm

https://pokepast.es/59c0c0d52f90b4f7 there

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[feral canopy]

u r mono lose to toxapex

blissey sucks except on stall and i see no reason to have flame clef here

[nova vapor]

So fix clef and replace bliss

[feral canopy]

what did u want to build this around

bc u also have no ground

[nova vapor]

Mostly sd kartana

And I've been wanting to use M lopunny but if I need to change that I will.

[feral canopy]

i think that can work

[full blaze]

A sun team i made in 20 mins or so
https://pokepast.es/cc785eaccda15051

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[full blaze]

I've not done a weather team in a long while so I don't know if its still good

i felt i should of put venusaur on heatran as it does not do much

[agile veldt]

https://pokepast.es/2c9717ba0ef660e6

Does anyone know a good spread for av lele

[feral canopy]

I HAVE ONE

but

i am not at home rn

but i will send it later.

[agile veldt]

Ok

[nova vapor]

https://pokepast.es/35f35fdaf5269605 there

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nova vapor]

Hmmm should I use defog corv or defog glisc

[cerulean scarab]

Closed for DLC2. Stay tuned for when it reopens!

[dusk flare]

we back

[subtle lance]

no way

[crude stump]

grand come back

[marsh blaze]

Pobbers

Pads Meow Balance
https://pokepast.es/4cfdf97659f169a1

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

[marsh blaze]

I wanted removal, rocks, ground type

And i already had a fighting type so i picked treads

Plus it's always nice having a steel

I forgot the ground immune tho

I could replace treads for smth like gliscor/lando and change pads on meow to boots and not care about removal

[crude stump]

The team feels decent overall ig

Just get a ground immunity

Be careful about pon tho

[marsh blaze]

Thoughts on what i thought about for the team above?

[crude stump]

I prefer pads on meow but if you wanna compress the role for hazard removal ig it’s fine

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/4cb8d70e88829409
Smth like this

[crude stump]

Actually it’d be great to if you change zama to boots, treads to glisc and smth with immediate power over volc

[crude stump]

Looks good but I’m not sure if this hits hard enough

not a huge problem unless we’re fighting unaware stall ig

[marsh blaze]

I wonder if specs latios works

[crude stump]

All three attackers weak to fairy doesn’t sound good

[marsh blaze]

True

[marsh blaze]

Could specs moth work?

Weak to rocks tho

[crude stump]

Actually it looks pretty decent already

[marsh blaze]

What does

[crude stump]

The team

[marsh blaze]

This one?

[crude stump]

yep

[marsh blaze]

Hm

Should i run a different tera on meowsca?

Cuz looking at the analysis on the pivot meow set taxel deals with the things listed as needing tera to 2hko

[hollow basalt]

https://pokepast.es/276cb5716098ac09

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[crude stump]

In general, the team lacks enough power and I guess the mu with hazard stacking can also be concerning.
I’m suspicious about the koko set but it can be just me hating thunder.
As your main offensive role, I don’t think AV is the best set for I-crown. Maybe a setup set like cm 3a will be better.
I think ep is necessary on mdiancie especially when only lando can possibly threaten tran/gking on your team.
Tera dragon is better on alom since your team can be swept by water pon pretty easily.
Not sure about gking’s tera.

[dusk flare]

[crude stump]

most special tank can wall this so idk

[dusk flare]

what i had:

[crude stump]

a more detailed analysis

[dusk flare]

i write too much sadly

ur input is valid tho i was just overthinking things

[hollow basalt]

lemme make the changes and i'll see what it looks like

[dusk flare]

Cool Beans

[hollow basalt]

i'm trying to build outside my usual areas which is gliscor tang heatran mlop +2
been using it for so long it's boring now xd

[crude stump]

I'd recommend a more offensive style if you wanna build e-terrain

[dusk flare]

glad you've come here for input then, we're always happy to help

and yea stuff like this is usually more offensive

[hollow basalt]

zama should be ironpress or banded?

[dusk flare]

band imo

works better w fsight

[hollow basalt]

something like this? https://pokepast.es/baf6576d048602e5

took off fsight, not sure how it'll work with calm mind

[dusk flare]

ill get to the sets in a bit playing splatoon rn

or @crude stump can help

[hollow basalt]

npnp

[crude stump]

idk about koko's tera but it's not a big deal ig.
I would suggest to have at least lando or ferro to have more invest in spdef. It doesn’t have to be full spdef but you will need some as the mu with lele is scaring now.
cm + vs + LO doesn’t sound good. you don’t wanna waste ur setup by using vs and in general hazards + LO recoil can kill itself pretty quick.

but this looks promising enough and I think you can test it out and fix some minor issues

[hollow basalt]

more force of habit for tera ghost tbh

[crude stump]

tera ghost for what tho

the only valid mu is dnite i assume?

[hollow basalt]

I like having one on a team and koko really doesn't need tera
not much in particular but spinblocking can help

dragonite too

[crude stump]

fair

[hollow basalt]

there's a few niche things I like it for

probably more useful than tera electric anyways

[spring imp]

https://pokepast.es/4372d5122d986314
generic eterrain team ill come up with something original soon guys i swear

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[spring imp]

what can i do about it

thank

[lapis cobalt]

Natdex gen 8
https://pokepast.es/a2f6231723e6a5e3

[pseudo fable]

ty i was tryna find it😭

https://pokepast.es/5ffa4a69fa8f684

try this https://pokepast.es/5ffa4a69fa8f684d

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[crude stump]

Use boots over band for cind
sd for maw

also double sucker with lele sounds weird

[marsh blaze]

Thoughts on replacing Chamone with something like Rillaboom for the grassy terrain? Or should i keep it

https://pokepast.es/f07fc6e29d671765

[fossil sierra]

bro u literally had me in gdl

why here

[marsh blaze]

Why not

[fossil sierra]

hmm,fair

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/1f72ae75cc869ac8
Medicham Ver. (Original)

https://pokepast.es/41130a187197e6e5
Rilla Ver.

Reposting this to get it rated

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

I didn't test the Rilla version yet as i haven't had the time to do so

I might redo the Archaludon ev spread i got from the OU forums but i have to go sleep now

[feral canopy]

Newly Risen Ash-Greninja.

[warm moat]

https://pokepast.es/129e3030dbdf538c

can u guys rate my team?

https://pokepast.es/05aa27943fec88d2

thats how it looks rn

[little haven]

https://pokepast.es/54bbd066a4942a6d any thoughts?

[crude stump]

go jolly 252 252 on tusk, you can pick either double dance or a more traditional defensive spread cm+recover+stab+focus blast for reun, and kyu should be boots with at least 56 hp ev to make 101 hp sub

also protect over Liquidation on alo and maybe you wanna put some of hp evs into spdef

[warm moat]

can u rate mine too? lol

[crude stump]

sets are good in general but ig you need one special attacker

i'd suggest maybe something like specs val or scarf lele over msciz since you have enough steels already

and in the latter case shifu can be setup set

[warm moat]

hmm

okay

tysm

[crude stump]

np

[little haven]

id like to play like half trick room half speedy breakers, wouldnt there be better way of it if i decreese some speed on tusk?

for alomomola and reun to support aegi sweep and rest like they need no help from those 3

[crude stump]

tr and speedy breakers aren’t compatible i think

and since you have alo to support aegi can just trade hp with oppo

[little haven]

i think they may have good synerggy if we consider that the trick room has short douration by the standards of the 1v1 metagame

[little haven]

oppo?

[crude stump]

ur opponent

[little haven]

okok ❤️

in fact that i have 2 tanky slow selfhealing teammates may allow me to stall my own trickroom if needed or even delete mine or enemy using mine

does that make sense?

[icy bone]

@crude stump https://pokepast.es/cce604e677e5336e Prof Nashrock can you rate the best team I've ever cooked?

[crude stump]

@icy boneProf Gew you should publish this on science

[icy bone]

I prefer nature more tho

[crude stump]

as my motto here says, "it's ur choice"

[marsh blaze]

Cool lmk when you make one

[crude stump]

lmao

[marsh blaze]

Water type with hazard control & having a fairy is always nice

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/9ad17668f5997b03
Idk what tera to run on Great Neck

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

Is Mewtwo still crazy as shit

Ok

[cobalt skiff]

https://pokepast.es/26c67f5d956e55d8
Is this ok? How could this be improved?

[marsh blaze]

Bro fr fr didn't get me

[marsh blaze]

Damn that's crazy

[marsh blaze]

Ok

[cobalt skiff]

https://pokepast.es/0c12c61b937ca52d pls help tweak

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[crude stump]

I’d suggest beginners don’t use any mon not on the vr list so remove the last two

[cobalt skiff]

What do i replace them with?

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/e2f04f5a36f68165

Basic LunaMola team probably

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[feral canopy]

Zapdos @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Static
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 248 HP / 184 Def / 76 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Volt Switch
• Hurricane
• Defog
• Roost

Stop using this set

glisc munches on this team

and what does arch do here

(or in general idek)

also this is the same lunamola team u built and posted here like 10 tomes

except u put an arch on it

make a new team bro

putting in a random mon on a finished team isnt gna turn out to anything most of the time

[dusky carbon]

he has been daily

[marsh blaze]

Ok

[marsh blaze]

Then what

[feral canopy]

if u run fog zapdos (why we have so many good foggers) run off z cane / off in general

so u actually stop the mons from setting hazards

U want to actually threaten say, glisc so it cant just come in and spike again

especially since zap doesnt come in much regardless

in general tho im not big on fog zap, ur taken advantage so easily but meh its not horrible

just dont run defensive fog zap

[marsh blaze]

Rocks, deals with things like oger/meow etc.

[marsh blaze]

Ok

[feral canopy]

Um

Waterpon runs sp a lot of the time, and i think u got more than enough for it lol anyways, if your still worried run a diff structure

a torn based one instead of zap

meow is like a c rank mon u dont need to worry about it, + u literally have zama and zap, and worst case can tera your mola

what did u build this around

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/7a4459a10c9d378e

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

[crude stump]

specs rai 2hkos the whole team with rock

[marsh blaze]

Damn

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tired bear]

After taking a glance, team is pretty slow and kind of weak. Fsight bro isn’t doing much here, I think u can replace with something more threatening and rely on tang Tran and Mandi defensively. I’m not sure how well it holds up in the meta but if you want to keep the integrity of the team that’s really all I can suggest. Can take a deeper look if u want but I’m not sure how you want to move forward. A lot of these mons don’t belong in the tier or work well on this team.

No

Make me a rager

Plz

Eater

Rater

Smh

Fine.

Bye!

[crude stump]

tbh dear Adriyun has already made all the points. It may take more work to improve this team than building a new one since the overall structure doesn't work in ndou

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/a4d92498a70c94b2

Thoughts on this?

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[crude stump]

Blizzard over ice beam on rai, and use vs set for washtom

[marsh blaze]

Why blizzard

[crude stump]

ut over qa on mlop

cuz it ohkos dragons and you have gking to activate snow

[marsh blaze]

True

https://pokepast.es/9240c7fb4eaf9be0
This?

[crude stump]

willowisp over np

[marsh blaze]

What counts as a wincon?

[crude stump]

mlop+rai is enough to win

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/8ca0afb261c72887

[crude stump]

Why are you afraid of blizzard miss when you have gking

personally i prefer blizzard but ok ice beam works

ur choice

[feral canopy]

which dragons

@crude stump

forgot tp ping lol

[feral canopy]

make wash ghost

no reason to be poison here over it, u want the spin and glisc immune since its ur glisc check

np wash shld be volt btw imo, no need for discharge

its not a main breaker, it uses plot defensively to not be too passive

[marsh blaze]

What about this updated version

[feral canopy]

looks fine

ye u need wisp here for zor

forgot abt that too lol

i wld go zama over lop

sturdier rai check

and make gking tera fairy

u got ferro+dark too so i wouldnt be too worried about lele

@marsh blaze

[feral canopy]

boots zama

cc fang slam edge

[marsh blaze]

Zamazenta @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Dauntless Shield
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Close Combat
• Heavy Slam
• Stone Edge
• Ice Fang

This?

[feral canopy]

Yes

isk abt tera steel but if it works it works

im used to fighting

steel prob works too tho

switch the mu on lele n stuff

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/474ed008589f5783

[feral canopy]

can go fog wash rocks lando and spikes ferro

if u want

see if that works better

Oh u want lefties lando here tho

[marsh blaze]

Why

Ig cuz i already have Ferro

[feral canopy]

why to what

lefties lando?

[marsh blaze]

Ye

[feral canopy]

help w volc better, and idt u need the extra chip on lop here

idk

try both

[crude stump]

Not very common but curse dnite

[feral canopy]

what spread do they run

But regardless like

no way even a +1 attack kills right

just beam again

or rk with zama

No reason to run a move thats worse 90% of other times

ur j handicapping urself vs other mons, since gking weather for rai is only 4 turns (less if you pivot to another mon first), and your specs so its not like your always clicking it anyways

i assume they run bulk but

252 SpA Choice Specs Darkrai Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 304-358 (94.1 - 110.8%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

and u can break multiscale with lando or wash too

and tox it

and ferro knock

[misty zephyr]

ice beam is to nuke gliscor dnite chomp turn1

[hollow basalt]

https://pokepast.es/b055ab6258e3c196
This one is pretty weird
I'm wondering if it'd be worth running a utility fini and a sweeper latios instead of the sets I've got now or if there's anything worth replacing

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[hollow basalt]

The whole idea of this team was to have a good matchup into all the relevant hyper offense setups with rain/sun and e-terrain while not losing to stall and functioning as a usable balance setup
Tried thinking about the actual roles the pokemon filled rather than just typings and which mons were good
Testing has yielded poor results however

[hollow basalt]

nvm I'm really happy with this now after some minor adjustments
https://pokepast.es/1e2f3ffff0175428

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[pale spear]

are u trying to build sand or just a standard bo with ttar

bc this cld go both ways

that doesnt rly help me

r u trying to actually build around sand

or r u trying to build around tyranitar the wallbreaker

ok

i wld replace sciz then it dont fit on sand

ye

the easiest way to build this

is a v famous structure

msciz/defensive lando/tapu fini/heatran

and then a wallbreaker (band tar in this case) and some solid speed control

uhh

ig?

u cld go slowbro, scarf the lando, and go for smth that helps out vs gren in the last slot

[pale spear]

u cld go kyurem in this slot

mayybe urshifur?

[hard creek]

https://pokepast.es/1096442a0d4d1e26

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[sharp pendant]

pokepaste aint working for me atm

can i post a picture?

[cobalt skiff]

That’s highly forbidden and likely to get you banned

[sharp pendant]

god forbid

[hard creek]

it wont get u banned its just discouraged

[hard creek]

https://pokepast.es/42970661992c4d3b

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[dusk flare]

thats ss nd bro

[crude stump]

beat me in ssnd with valiant

[icy bone]

/challenge gen8nationaldex +++iron valiant :3

[hard creek]

wdyt

[dusky carbon]

Fini>bro

So yr not 6-0ed by gren

[manic helm]

https://pokepast.es/1320f2c5a1875625

[feral canopy]

Maybw the play there is

CHANSEY.

[feral canopy]

Hoopa is dicks n u get 6-0ed by glisc

Np torn t also claims

[manic helm]

so any suggestions on what to fix?

[pale spear]

schizo

opposing weav dicks on u

[sharp pendant]

https://pokepast.es/00658a93233a698e

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[sharp pendant]

uhh im lowkey new so idk what im doing lol

[hollow basalt]

https://pokepast.es/380be2e491ef239e
have I made a good team yet

[feral canopy]

what does knock hit on wellspring

that makes it worth over sp or encore

[feral canopy]

try the samples

they r a bit old but function wise they work the same

[queen hemlock]

Is there a national dex channel?

[feral canopy]

Ding ding ding

[queen hemlock]

no, a pure nat dex server

[hollow basalt]

Was more for strong neutral + utility

Dark isn't resisted by a whole lot and I can at least knock a tera dragon alo's boots or kill a glowking, that kinda thing

I think trying to win the coverage war between stomping tantrum or play rough is kinda pointless

Encore is probably best though true

[cedar storm]

Are there any requirements to post a team so that someone can rate it?

[pale spear]

The Cha.

[sharp pendant]

whats tha

[dry rivet]

Premade teams made for beginners to the tier

[crude stump]

go to natdex room and type /rfaq s

[manic helm]

https://pokepast.es/0a586dda1d0af198

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[manic helm]

https://pokepast.es/1899bd735ebe7f39

[marsh blaze]

No rocks

[marsh blaze]

Don't use sash Weavile

3a volcarona isn't that good outside of Offense/HO iirc

Also no immediate power

[manic helm]

can you give me suggestion for replacement

[marsh blaze]

I'm not good enough to change people's teams yet

Wait for a rater to suggest replacements

[dusk flare]

specs valiant > koko, use diff evs / sets for torn, glisc, and ttar (will paste below), spdef galarian slowking > alomomola, 4 attacks zamazenta > iron crown,

Ability: Regenerator  
Tera Type: Flying  
EVs: 108 HP / 4 Def / 136 SpA / 8 SpD / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
- Nasty Plot
- Hurricane  
- Focus Blast  
- Taunt

Tyranitar-Mega @ Tyranitarite  
Ability: Sand Stream  
Tera Type: Rock  
EVs: 132 HP / 252 Atk / 124 Spe  
Adamant Nature  
- Stone Edge  
- Knock Off  
- Pursuit  
- Stealth Rock

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb  
Ability: Poison Heal  
Tera Type: Fairy  
EVs: 244 HP / 252 SpD / 12 Spe  
Careful Nature  
- Defog
- Earthquake  
- Roost  
- Toxic```

[manic helm]

ty, I will try

[carmine hamlet]

man just changed the entire team

[hard creek]

https://pokepast.es/00d35da285ae7e14 @dusk flare how does grassspam work again

[carmine hamlet]

it doesnt

idk i dont play gen 8

anymore

[feral canopy]

i meant real relevant pokemon

[feral canopy]

https://discord.gg/hE7ygnHe

[misty zephyr]

Gardevoir

[feral canopy]

[pale spear]

?

He’s broken

Haven’t u heard?

[manic helm]

https://pokepast.es/9ab4121fa194823f

[marsh blaze]

This is literally a sample team

[marsh blaze]

Also why are you using that lando and Ferro spread

[carmine hamlet]

it looks like something sealoo would make

[marsh blaze]

Yeah and it'd be pretty crazy if he has already made it

[queen hemlock]

i cant verify

[marsh blaze]

How

[queen hemlock]

when i do the steps, it doesn't work

[timber tendon]

https://pokepast.es/758851b608333ac2
Is this team decent at best?

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[queen hemlock]

https://pokepast.es/ad089da098db6e1d my Nat dex

[vast tendon]

https://pokepast.es/191f3ecb93361d12

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[limber crypt]

Id prob drop boulder for smth like ferro bc im not a huge fan of lando being the only defensive mon here

Other than that seems ok

[vast tendon]

i kinda just went for an offense approach but yeah seems reasonable

[manic helm]

https://pokepast.es/f8a566253a45c597

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[manic helm]

1, I'm thinking about changing db from valiant to something else, what is a ideal move to use

2, Should I keep using heatran as my defensive steel or use something else

[limber crypt]

encore > dbond on ival, ferro > tran works for this

U could also try specs val but thats just bc im not a mixval fan

[manic helm]

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe

• Leech Seed
• Stealth Rock
• Protect
• Gyro Ball

should I use this or twave+power whip

[limber crypt]

twave+pwhip

[manic helm]

ty

[queen hemlock]

https://pokepast.es/ad089da098db6e1d my Nat dex

[queen hemlock]

Switch Tera to water or ghost

[marsh blaze]

• No Flying Type
• No Ground Type
• No Rocks
• Mid Removal
• No Guaranteed Progress
• No Speed Control

If you're running that many setup mons just go screens tbh

[queen hemlock]

I tried screens it didn’t really sync with the team

[cobalt skiff]

💔

[crude stump]

If you wanna keep this structure I’d suggest light clay koko with taunt, dual screens and ut

[sharp pendant]

https://pokepast.es/a07a07560037b698

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[sharp pendant]

uhh peep team

[crude stump]

What kind of team do you wanna build?

clod doesn’t fit in HO

[cedar storm]

https://pokepast.es/9ba1cfd5b8e4301f
Tried making a balance team. Pex is intended to be the main physical wall of the team with Garg there so I have a pokemon to switch to trigger regenerator. Zapdos, Wellspring, and Scizor are there to help attack throughout the early and mid game. Iron Val is supposed to sweep late game but has encore to stop setup pokemon if needed.

[marsh blaze]

Booster energy val isn't that good on balance

[carmine hamlet]

agreed because switch often

[sharp pendant]

not sure tbh

just a good one ig?

what is HO

[marsh blaze]

Hyper Offense

[sharp pendant]

i love hyper offense

who should i switch clod for

[hollow basalt]

https://pokepast.es/100d3e63a14d116a

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/bc2736417ac5e8c3

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[feral canopy]

why isthere an av iron treads

[marsh blaze]

Steel type, Removal that doesn't get rid of the hazards on the opponents side, Pretty defense heavy so i chucked an AV on there

Idk what i was cooking with tera bug megahorn

Might replace it with like volt switch or smth

And tera water

[crude stump]

this is kinda weak to water

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/a3f5819fff5a2a1a

[cobalt skiff]

https://pokepast.es/00433a3f1aa5a16d

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cobalt skiff]

Is it good

[feral canopy]

it is not good

idk what clod is doing here

slows the pace of the team

idpress slowbro idk what its doing

physdef glisc is not goood

idk this team has no real correlation with each other

[pale spear]

Gliscor Counter

[cobalt skiff]

Special defence wall

U cant call it shit and not trll me how to improve it

[feral canopy]

[feral canopy]

yeah but its a slow momentum sink, and not a very good special defense wall otherwise without teammates

[feral canopy]

I didnt call it

i explained all the issues it had

and i can because i am busy

[marsh blaze]

You gotta think about if it actually fits that playstyle you're tryna go for

[hollow basalt]

https://pokepast.es/7335d0d539568ce3

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[languid sigil]

https://pokepast.es/419e2f7668f0246f

can you rate my team

[dusk flare]

this team isn't very cohesive; seems really passive (many pivots but no breakers) without any way of actually making progress and seems super duper weak to sd glisc too (utility glisc kinda sits on a lot of this as well); i'd recommend picking up a sample team to get to know the tier better bc this isn't gonna get you too far

[hollow basalt]

23 speed IV lando is kinda odd as well

[languid sigil]

pls

[hollow basalt]

Are you underspeeding something on purpose with those?

[feral canopy]

24 speed iv lando

[dusk flare]

the least id use is 30 rlly

for opposing lando

[hollow basalt]

ye it's definitely weird
Thought maybe this was one of those level 99 slowbro situations

Where you really wanna be underspeeding something in particular

[feral canopy]

im p sure ive heard

of 23 iv lando

its a ssou benchmark p shre

sure

i forget for what

[hollow basalt]

23 iv is 210 speed uninvested

[languid sigil]

it's better to replace Tapu Koko with Great Tusk ??

[dusk flare]

i did not specify adding a great tusk anywhere

i dont think this team is too salvageable since there doesnt seem to be a concept in mind

[hollow basalt]

This team is kinda like
You've taken 6 kinda generic supports / utility mons in a way

All the mons by themselves are good, just not in this combination

[feral canopy]

last 3 mons can work but

needs a core to support

[languid sigil]

so i have to keep 3 and change 3 others ?

[feral canopy]

well

You dont have to

im just saying the last 3 could technically work together

but again theres no point in making a team if you have no idea

[languid sigil]

i just try to do a team

[hollow basalt]

It's worth trying to make your own teams but build around a particular goal or core or theme or etc

[languid sigil]

at first I wanted to make a team with samurott

hisui

[hollow basalt]

Ok that's a start
Samurott is good at setting hazards and hazards can help support an offensive core by helping weaken the things you're trying to kill

You've got a tapu koko there as well, it might be worth slotting in an iron valiant or iron boulder, something that can use the hazards + electric terrain to sweep really nicely

[languid sigil]

oh i understand

i try another things

[hollow basalt]

Ye that's effectively how the better teams are put together
Is you'll have 6 pokemon that synergize together to form a coherent game plan

You can have offensive and defensive teams, stuff like balance which is a mix of the two

Or you can build around certain terrains, weathers, particular moves like trick room or light screen/reflect

There's a lot of options

I'm not the best at teambuilding but the fundamentals take a while to get the hang of for sure

[languid sigil]

i can play without Booster Energy i thinks because i have Tapu Koko

[hollow basalt]

Bingo
That's exactly the type of thing Koko is there for

[languid sigil]

okay nice

so it's better to play with choice band/heavy-duty boots/ left over ?

[hollow basalt]

On what mon?

[languid sigil]

Iron Boulder

[hollow basalt]

Boulder can do a few things, I'd probably run something like tera fighting mighty cleave, zen headbutt, close combat and swords dance with life orb for maximum damage

[feral canopy]

Rockium

Atp

[hollow basalt]

I forget this is natdex sometimes

[languid sigil]

i forget this item lmao

[hollow basalt]

Not much lives a +2 rockium z mighty cleave

If you've got boulder acting as a wallbreaker, you'll want something that can make good use of the holes it can put in a team

Conveniently iron valiant is really good at being a cleaner xd

[languid sigil]

https://pokepast.es/aea95a113f9629ed is this a better team ??

[cobalt skiff]

If you believe hard enough

[hollow basalt]

This looks a lot better

https://pokepast.es/afb06a0253ab5059
This is one I threw together in a few minutes from stuff I'd seen before

A team like this or yours should at least be able to get you to like 13-1400

[feral canopy]

Er

That Lando has boots

and is the wrong defense

and that koko does not have hidden power ice

[hollow basalt]

7 minutes from start to finish

Can always be tweaked

[languid sigil]

what i have to change with my team ?

because i don't really like scizor

[hollow basalt]

Yours should be fine for now I think

It's important to test teams out

There's only so far you can get by theorycrafting
Play on ladder, see how games work out
If you're losing to anything in particular, maybe swap a move or item or even a full mon out for another one

Eventually you'll get something you like and you can play decently with

Might not be the best, or the most consistent but it's how we improve

[languid sigil]

:)

really thanks for helping me

[hollow basalt]

npnp
It's only basic stuff
Teambuilding goes way farther than I understand

But in the last like, 6-7 months I've gone from struggling in 1200 to floating around 14-1500

Eventually I'll push 16 and 17 and so on

[languid sigil]

okay okay

have a nice day

[pale spear]

Affirmative

It outspeeds ada crawfaunt

[spring imp]

fool's balanced team https://pokepast.es/836bfdce654c512f

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[spring imp]

also pls tell me how to play a balance team

[dusky carbon]

lvl 97 mola is crazy

ik ur trying to get creeped by opposing mola

but lvl 99 is fine

[spring imp]

i must become slow

anything else

[languid sigil]

hello i try my team and i change it https://pokepast.es/9e40c4362c9e691a

what do you thinks ??

[spring imp]

23 speed iv lando????????????

beautiful

[languid sigil]

lmao it's a fail

[spring imp]

what

[languid sigil]

https://pokepast.es/50cd60413968d96f

is it good now ???

[spring imp]

whats with the glowking set

[languid sigil]

??? i don't understand the question

[spring imp]

why assault vest on a wall

wait

let me think about this

assault vest could work actually ignore

i dont think im qualified with the rest of the questions

[marsh blaze]

Go banded hsamu

You have enough speed

[languid sigil]

okay thx

[fiery iris]

https://pokepast.es/425a02a5ba5a9b89

Unburden sweep

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[robust ermine]

https://pokepast.es/d48fcc529cb3237e

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[limber crypt]

im ngl bro this doesnt seem too biable; palossand and incin dont really have a niche in the tier, and the rest of the team doesnt really fit together (ie u dont exactly have counterplay to raging bolt), i would recommend looking at one of the sample teams to get a better idea of whats viable and how to build

[limber crypt]

think smth like lando > dirge, zap > sceptile and waterpon > gren (optional) should work for this, u can also make lele just a normal scarf set

[feral canopy]

biable

[hollow basalt]

https://pokepast.es/a98496d5088d832d am I cooking with this one or nah, it's been decent in testing

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[crude stump]

I think I will do torn over zap if you want an offensive bird here.
Also maybe lefties-> eject button since you dont have breakers strong enough to bring in
idk about lefties on gfire

[hollow basalt]

mostly chose zap cause it could spread so much paralysis around
it's kinda built to facilitate a pecharunt lategame clean

lefties on gfire was because i've got a good amount of anti hazard stuff as is

[elfin zealot]

https://pokepast.es/d3507dd226fee88c
Team based on the things you often buy in the supermarket

Are Flapple or Dipplin better choices against Apletun?

[hollow basalt]

of the three, flapple is the most viable

but hydrapple exists

you can get bags of multiple apples ig

[hardy gust]

https://pokepast.es/2d5c16ca6a920528

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[crude stump]

probably also eject button on ferro

[spiral pond]

I need to update this for DLC2, Rain is near identical every time so not much should change. https://pokepast.es/e5128480e6f5db36

[carmine hamlet]

nahh its actually just the picture 💀

need to figure out a superpower pon check i suppose

but ghost ferro is probably good enough

actually darkrai pon sounds horrible to deal with

[spiral pond]

deisigns

[spiral pond]

How fast is that?

[carmine hamlet]

pon? 350

why

[spiral pond]

Ok ty

[spiral pond]

Does CC Barra check?

[carmine hamlet]

probably not

calc it

[spiral pond]

Ok

Which pon

[carmine hamlet]

water

just realised i didnt specify but water absorb pon is very popular and is a big big no no for rain teams

its why rain has been dropping off for the first time in a loooong time

[hardy gust]

https://pokepast.es/936294a3de3d1a65

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[still spade]

https://pokepast.es/c62243537402a3fc

[marsh blaze]

https://pokepast.es/1dd98cbe297d4ecf

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[marsh blaze]

🗿

[sonic kraken]

thoughts?

[sonic kraken]

I feel I might switch Gouging Fire and Pecharunt because I haven't used them much

Not sure what to tho

Also mcharY is kinda lame now

I want a good sun core though

[hollow basalt]

why are you running bulky zard-y

it's a wallbreaker

defog on a pokemon 4x weak to rocks and no boots is wild

[marsh blaze]

This is a pretty mid team

Defog on bulky Yard

Running both Yard & Torkoal on the same team

Tork Sun is HO focused

Which this team isn't

[wild sentinel]

Are there any optimizations that can be made to this team?
https://pokepast.es/be8cfbd87c6b355a

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[wild sentinel]

Shifu caps out at 322 right

Wouldn't that mean I'd be running 248+ speed

Do I wanna take any EVs out of HP and into sp. Def

[vast tendon]

https://pokepast.es/4bc2c798ad2f69d9

[hardy gust]

https://pokepast.es/a1f18200fb68f12b

[feral canopy]

this is far too much bro

u dont check shit well anymore

[feral canopy]

Im ngl

this js looks like a slightly worse version of

https://pokepast.es/e2a2c9e4726182dd

gking tran is better here for volc

crazy how literally everyone who builds mola luna ends up w smtg similiar to this lol

252 SpA Choice Specs Iron Valiant Focus Blast vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Iron Crown: 174-205 (45.4 - 53.5%) -- 90.2% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

[wild sentinel]

Good thing Focus Blast never hits twice

🗣️ 🔥

Is there any way to EV Crown to not get blown up

I like having Mega Diancie on the team

[queen hemlock]

https://pokepast.es/b3f8a442014b47ad

[hardy gust]

https://pokepast.es/640f1942c6870181

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare, @cobalt skiff, @crude stump. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[pale spear]

Bird is typing

man.

[pale spear]

uhh idrk what the direction ur taking this is

what was this built around?

[hardy gust]

i started with scale shot chomp then kinda wandered off

[feral canopy]

wander back on

scarf enam is dog

a chomp set like that is kind of relegated to ho

[hardy gust]

oh ok

[pale spear]

https://pokepast.es/b69f21eae96e6a34 hmm

[hardy gust]

trying to not do ho here so ig ill figure smth out

[pale spear]

@feral canopy how abt this structure

[feral canopy]

fog

like if this was torn > zap n tankchomp

[pale spear]

zapdos

is fog

[feral canopy]

pls dont tell me

its the bad set

[pale spear]

its defensive offensive fog

[feral canopy]

,

what does this MEAN

[pale spear]

sorta like

https://pokepast.es/e5805a2a10e6c1f3 this team

[feral canopy]

the only fog zap i condone is offensive

[pale spear]

but just garchomp > lando and fog zap

[feral canopy]

that has hp ice tho

like

[pale spear]

maybe also replace zama for smth else

[feral canopy]

act maybe

with tran

u can just run hp ice elec move fog roost

on zap

no need for cane

and ur elec move is probably discharge

altho then waterpon gets a luttle mickey

idk not a fan

of zappy wappy as the waterpon check

and the fogger

maybe a more offensive structure

like

[pale spear]

idk this is kinda poopoo vs gliscor

[feral canopy]

https://pokepast.es/74de077e812676e9

lop check last idk

if this was tankchomp

life wld be so much easier

bc then i go breaker / speed control / whatever mon last

[vast tendon]

https://pokepast.es/81d6ee4e6f63ccb4

[hardy gust]

tankchomp works

[feral canopy]

oh

das perfect

[hardy gust]

isnt bulu like doodoo dooky

like isnt rilla better everytime

[vast tendon]

helps bolt out defensively

[hardy gust]

oh they thought abt it

fair

[vast tendon]

yeah ineros made a pretty cool bulu team

[hardy gust]

crazy what setting abilities do a to a mf

[feral canopy]

https://pokepast.es/98c9e99aad4bbf14

lele is cm dkiss, volc is 3a off, tankchomp, bulky scarf washer, rai is 4a specs

thoughts @pale spear

[hardy gust]

ty

thank both yall for helping

[feral canopy]

waitttt

i might have potentially maybe missed something