NatDex OU Rates

[hardy gust]

not gonna get you far on the ladder but its fun

i just need a bulky offense team so i can win a $25 i dont need

🤑

thats what ive been tryna make

[rotund delta]

https://pokepast.es/2d43e166ede4c2d8

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rotund delta]

tryna make PZ work

[hardy gust]

wouldnt u prefer tera electric for less weaknesses

not that it matters much cause its alr frail but imo electric> ice

up to y

u

[iron summit]

Lmao I just beat someone on ladder with pretty much the same team

[rotund delta]

https://pokepast.es/9346702d5e37d36b

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rotund delta]

replaced rocks on ferro with spikes

[shadow oasis]

seems fine

[hardy gust]

https://pokepast.es/ef55aa84bea0de73

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[hardy gust]

i j wanted to test kart fr

[rotund delta]

https://pokepast.es/f65ea29905c871b7

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[rotund delta]

i dont like koko here

any suggestions for a replacement

[pale spear]

me neither

i would go dragapult over the koko

u still need smth fast and u need smth that makes zamazenta not close combat stimulator

also i think u shld go a few more physdef evs on sciz alongside cc

helps with sd gambits & between av torn and ur own gambit u dont need that much spdef

[tired bear]

https://pokepast.es/d110649909133be1

[lusty basalt]

https://pokepast.es/099185bdde771d10

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[wanton kernel]

https://pokepast.es/ab901878f1450b3b any improvements

getting defog on rotom because it gets chipped down by hazards

it i mean team

[wanton kernel]

added scale shot and loaded dice to garchomp because oh my god

[rotund delta]

https://pokepast.es/b3e5b9e871464d44 trying glimm

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[soft orchid]

Can anyone here explain how greninja didn't fall off.

Even after it's nerfs.

[feral canopy]

it fell off

yw

[soft orchid]

Then how is it still OU?

[feral canopy]

because it got enough usage to be ou

[rotund delta]

its shit

people still use it tho

its a noob trap

[devout rock]

https://pokepast.es/781e231e8baa3bd9 here's my natdex team I just made- I would love to hear some suggestions on it. I based the team off mega scizor and decided to add trick room as it fit into the team well. Movesets might need to be changed and I feel like the team has too much stall. I also need an option to remove hazzards now that I think about it.

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[feral canopy]

"too much stall" doesnt exist, stall is a playstyle

too passive does, but your team isnt?

hatt here is useless idk why u have it tho

the actual sets are okay outside of the hatt one and ferro

but u lack a ground, a gambit check, and a few other things

[devout rock]

wouldnt a ground type be a gambit check

[feral canopy]

not necessarily, no

[devout rock]

https://pokepast.es/d2b0b91645950684

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[devout rock]

i think this works better

gliscor is more useful and fits the team better as a lead with hazzards and defog

also provides ground type coverage

and i altered ferrothorns set to be physically defensive with rocky helm

now that i think about it i think its better to swap protect on ferro for rocks and switch gliscors rocks for taunt

to get rid of early setup

[feral canopy]

it does nkt work well as a lead

in fact ut doesnt work at all

because it cannot do anything to any of the rockers or the foggers

u can never do either well

with ni secondary utikity

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[limber crypt]

think u can just make kyurem 3a icium rather than sub, this looks fine otherwise

[cobalt skiff]

any specific spread

[limber crypt]

Just max max, modest vs timid is ur preference but id do timid

The team is not lacking power

[subtle lance]

my one problem with this team is the pokepaste title

(afaik that's actually moderable within the server)

but the team seems good

(besides what s&l said)

[cobalt skiff]

better delete it before that happens!

[subtle lance]

lol

[shadow oasis]

id probably go earth power > mfire on the dia

just to hit tran and ghold harder

[cobalt skiff]

im not really scared of tran

[shadow oasis]

but if ur weaker to ferro then just keep it

[cobalt skiff]

yeah im more worried bout ferro

[worldly hatch]

https://pokepast.es/7ae5802a1e65b3c9 This team has to be 3 poison 3 flying mons. and i cant have a mega. so with those things considered if anyone has some kinda of insight?

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[feral canopy]

ya no, not here

j shld ask in whatever pixelmon or discord game server this is for

this is for natdex ou, not natdex ou with min 3 flying min 3 poisons no mega

also thats like practically unbuildable since we have so little good poisons, they all stack up on their roles, and they are all (barring glimm and sneas) bulky mons, while glimm and sneas are ho mons, so they are literally incomptabile

[raven granite]

im what some people may call the expert on the half poison half flying no megas gen 9 national dex metagame and i must say you've done an utterly stellar job

i will certainly be bringing this to hphfnmpl

tera grass amoonguss is a phenominal innovation and surf pex is just mwah

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[worldly hatch]

to be fair these are just ripped off smogon just used sets to have a basic idea. question was more geared for main threats opposed to move sets, I don't have much time to learn what is otherwise a quite pointless format. surely you have better things to do than this

[cobalt skiff]

[raven granite]

if you want a good way to deal with main threats, might i suggest using a more traditional team

[worldly hatch]

Plenty of nat dex ou Paste out there, a traditional team just not what I need

[echo pawn]

https://pokepast.es/3fe2231446266dab

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[limber crypt]

Defog lando > glisc, rocks ferro, rest looks fine

[echo pawn]

bet thanks

[lusty basalt]

https://pokepast.es/099185bdde771d10 rmt

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[subtle lance]

since someone already pinged

https://pokepast.es/c5782bac43df9b12

[limber crypt]

Specs pult > volcarona and 3a taunt hsamu > scarf

[limber crypt]

lando > hsamu, sd sneas > mtar, rest looks fine

[subtle lance]

Gotcha ty

[lusty basalt]

volc was mainly there to give me a more solid ival/zama switchin

also smth to take advantage of grasses for samurott hisui

isnt this team kinda slow without a scarfer asw

nobody revenges pult or koko

mlop also

[feral canopy]

hisamu does

and koko is cucked by ferro and or tusk infinitely

pult is fast enough

it rks lop to

o

however u have nothing that switches into lop regardless of changes or not

which is the problematic part

[lusty basalt]

shld I chople ferro

wld also helps vs ival if I replace volc

[worldly path]

https://pokepast.es/d4e96b57568725fc idk bout this

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[polar haven]

gen 8 National dex ou

[feral canopy]

pokepaste

[polar haven]

how do i do it

[polar haven]

https://pokepast.es/4081066ca42cf2ce

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[pale spear]

@feral canopy LOL

[pale spear]

Bro this is my team but you replaced the Koko with a dracozolt

[feral canopy]

what

[feral canopy]

link

alls dracozolt > koko....

[pale spear]

Pls dont take others ppl teams esp without specifying

[pale spear]

https://pokepast.es/bc339529c6573bb9

[polar haven]

yup, sorry I didn't know whose it was so I didn't write anything

in new to pokemon so I don't know how to get the teams rolling

[feral canopy]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

u tryna be me fr...

[feral canopy]

suck

mine us better

[pale spear]

???

[pale spear]

What is yours

[feral canopy]

mine

[pale spear]

If u say dracozolt I’ll sob

[feral canopy]

mine

[polar haven]

how do u play that team

[tranquil sedge]

https://pokepast.es/accda15c1ff5a6d3

im actually cooking with this

your average screens ho

[pale spear]

Try not to load into dark type

If no dark type lead reuni and click the boosting moves

If dark type start getting up hazards and pressure the dark so reuni can win

[polar haven]

but there is no hazard controller

no defog or spin?

[pale spear]

Tar is the only hazard weak mon

And tar shldnt be coming in too muchc anws

[subtle lance]

0 speed gambit?

but yeah this is very cooky lol

[pale spear]

It’s mostly just there for rocks and to limit kyu/Tran/whatever else

[tranquil sedge]

noted

ill change that

[subtle lance]

lol

[tranquil sedge]

whats a good speed benchmark

how much should i invest

[subtle lance]

116 for this set iirc

[polar haven]

how do u use whirlwind

[subtle lance]

lemme double check but i'm 99% sure that it's

that

that's it*

i can't type

wait no

it's 116 hp

and 140 speed

252+ attack

my brain isn't functioning 😭

[pale spear]

Use it as a phasing tool/ a way to make progress with hazards when u can

[tranquil sedge]

got it

which important mon does 171 speed outrun

[polar haven]

so i setup hazards and then i can whirlwind to make them take damage?

[pale spear]

U can do that yeah

[subtle lance]

corviknight and iron hands

with their

normal investment

[tranquil sedge]

i aint a big fan of how fucked zard is against rocks

[subtle lance]

although outrunning hands seems useless

[tranquil sedge]

what mega is a suitable replacement

[subtle lance]

oh yeah and it also outruns dirge if it's not invested

[subtle lance]

hmmmm

[polar haven]

i desperately need to play matches against someone, i dont know how to do it haha

[subtle lance]

scizor and dd ttar are fun

[tranquil sedge]

not a big fan of ttar

sand is annoying

[subtle lance]

oh and gyara

mgyara too

[tranquil sedge]

and scizor is stacking fire weak

[subtle lance]

mgyara might be the best

choice here

[tranquil sedge]

got it

[subtle lance]

waterfall crunch dragon dance eq/power whip

i'm not the best at natdex but imo this looks solid enough

there could be one or another thing i'm missing

but

s

[feral canopy]

its dirge

[tranquil sedge]

wish lopunny had setup

[feral canopy]

that speed benchmark

[subtle lance]

same

[feral canopy]

altho u shld probabky go less nowadays

[subtle lance]

yeah it's dirge and corv

[feral canopy]

clef is much more relevant

[subtle lance]

but

[feral canopy]

than either of those

[subtle lance]

hang on let me check how much

[raven granite]

POWER UP PUNCH

[subtle lance]

clef does

ok clef gets 156 speed

so you could do 157 or 158

which equals 84 or 88 ev (21 or 22 points)

it's up to you tbh

[tranquil sedge]

shit i have an idea now

[raven granite]

pup encore lop is a real set in gen 8 idk abt gen 9

[naive wharf]

https://pokepast.es/6028275eb002a918 ive been trying this kingambit zoroark core can someone help me make the team better?

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[hot sparrow]

How Do I post my team?

[naive wharf]

@hot sparrow use pokepaste

[hot sparrow]

Thanks

[naive wharf]

well do you know how to get your team in a pokepaste?

[hot sparrow]

https://pokepast.es/b543690000d8322c

Also can anyone help me build a team

[subtle lance]

https://pokepast.es/fbe6a9478ec4de0f

I jumped from 1400 to 1800 with this team (currently 1750 but anyway) so i'm like ultra scared to mess with it but uh yea

@ember hollow @pale spear yall are the online ones lol

[pale spear]

this is a pretty standard 6 and should work fine, maybe u can switch the gyara with like a val but it looks fine

[subtle lance]

oh wow

thanks lmao

[midnight vault]

i need advice really quick

[hard ember]

https://pokepast.es/f86cfcf9c63f5523
My team is really polarizing, I want to make some changes to my team but I don't know what would be a good replacement. May you please help me.

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[prime onyx]

https://pokepast.es/e7b5cec5b87cb923 any sugestions for higher ladder?

[subtle lance]

where's your screen setter

or am i just blind 😭

[prime onyx]

should i use one on this team?

[subtle lance]

i assumed you was because of the team title

lol

in my personal opinion

you could replace dondozo with screens koko for valiant and well, screens

and then go electric seed on sneasler

[prime onyx]

this is ou

[subtle lance]

natdex ou

wait

are you just on the wrong channel

[prime onyx]

[subtle lance]

i'm going to

😭

[hot sparrow]

Any advice

https://pokepast.es/b543690000d8322c

[rotund delta]

um

galvantula

is not popular

at all

[rotund delta]

i’m not gonna sugarcoat it every single mon on this team is p terrible

and i don’t think wug counters galvantula even

i’m p sure it’s literally the opposite

galv just clicks thunder

[tranquil sedge]

https://pokepast.es/da1edd2e8c0617fa

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tranquil sedge]

i am done cooking

[echo pawn]

https://pokepast.es/62174b3e60a11ba1

just wanted to test out kartana fr

[modest violet]

https://pokepast.es/11785d7ccd0206bb rate and roast

[modest violet]

looks cool!

[hard ember]

https://pokepast.es/f86cfcf9c63f5523
Just working on team building and I'm looking for advice.

[modest violet]

i like it!

[rotund delta]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-gif-26024844

[meager holly]

https://pokepast.es/f9a63f1a13305030 thoughts

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[meager holly]

am not a rater but pls dont use klingklang lol

also u forgor to put tera types

thats all i can say for now

[misty stratus]

https://pokepast.es/e232b699ce4b0ffc what do i add to this?

i just wanna build smth around sub kyurem even if it's bad/fishy or whatever

wanted to be spin and have a fogger but maybe it's just more worthwhile going boots kyurem

idk

[modest violet]

i am bad with teras. also i like klingklang

[stray hollow]

https://pokepast.es/ed1951c7e138d0bf

Thoughts on this HO Elec Terrain team?

[hard ember]

I'm not a rater but I think you would benefit from adding grimmsnarl to your team. Not only does it fix your fairy weakness, but it also boosts your Kyurem in giving it a extra layer of defense. I think you should add a focus shash to your great tusk just so then you at least are able to set up rock if you really need them. For Kyurem run a iceum z for extra KO power. Leftover is good but you ready have form of recovery in recover plus you will having help from screen, boosting your Kyurem longevity. I don't know what more I should add but make sure you add a mega, so that you Utilize all mechanics. I suggest a fighting mega to stop steels and rock types in your way. That the best I could do hope this advice can help you

[hard ember]

Thanks

[meager holly]

Point is you wont see success with it considering its weak and frail. What's stopping mega lopunny from running over 5 of your mons

Most of the mons are also weak to stealth rock

[modest violet]

wait shit your right.

i forgot about stealth rock

https://pokepast.es/253b3e3dc4d99d65 rain team

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[shadow oasis]

remove all these mons aside floatzel and pelipper

give pelipper damp rock

add mpert (waterfall, eq, ice punch, stealth rock or flip turn)

[modest violet]

ill make it after im done making this sun team

[shadow oasis]

oh ok ill just comment what needs to be done so u can look later

[modest violet]

k, thanks for being blunt. i prefer blunt over sliding around the truth

[shadow oasis]

np

[modest violet]

who should i use as my drought mon?

[shadow oasis]

torkoal

if its full on sun

[modest violet]

full on sun yeah

[shadow oasis]

yeah then torkoal

[modest violet]

and heat rock right?

[shadow oasis]

yep

[modest violet]

should i have a mon with solar beam or blade?

[meager holly]

wow are you the other george from natdex room earlier @shadow oasis

[shadow oasis]

ye

[shadow oasis]

nah not really unless you really want to run hisuian lilligant but i feel venu is the better grass

[modest violet]

just wondering

is solar power worth it?

[shadow oasis]

idt anything viable on a sun team runs solar power

what mon were you gonna use?

[modest violet]

idk was just wondering

[shadow oasis]

ah ok

[modest violet]

what are some good mons to put on a sun team? i have torkal scovillan and great tusk

[shadow oasis]

tork and tusk are fine but run venu over scov

[modest violet]

k

should i run sleep powder or toxic on venu

or something else?

[shadow oasis]

venu should be giga drain, earth power, weather ball, growth with the item Life Orb and it should be tera fire

giga drain can heal the life orb recoil back

[modest violet]

got it!

who next?

[shadow oasis]

so you have tusk, tork, venu?

[modest violet]

mhm

[shadow oasis]

i like washtom on sun teams, it can slow pivot out with volt switch into your sun abusers or sun setter

[modest violet]

ok

what should it run besides volt switch

[shadow oasis]

pump wisp pain split

[meager holly]

@shadow oasis george if you have the time can u also give my team sum feedback

[shadow oasis]

sure

[meager holly]

https://pokepast.es/f9a63f1a13305030

[shadow oasis]

hmm go u turn > triple axel on lop

go taunt and stealth rock on tran and then put spikes on ferrothorn over stealth rocks

[modest violet]

yeah spikes are better than stealth rock

thats why hisuian samurot is better than kleavor

[shadow oasis]

both are good, but on this team heatran can easily have stealth rock over roar

roar isnt that great on tran

and you dont want double stealth rocks so spikes are optimal here

[modest violet]

yeah

also what should i put on my sun team next

i have tork venu tusk and washtom

[shadow oasis]

hmm

you could add a kingambit

kingambit would be good into dengo and pult

sucker punches are always nice

[modest violet]

ok so sucker punch and what else

[shadow oasis]

knock off swords dance iron head

supreme overlord with black glasses and tera dark/flying

[modest violet]

got it!

whos the last mon?

[shadow oasis]

hmm you could go maybe specs pult

[modest violet]

ability and moves?

made the team, what do ya think https://pokepast.es/6f3bb6d45dad3796

[sacred ember]

it’s a bulky team he doesn’t need Grimm

And sash doesn’t really help tusk either

[shadow oasis]

seems fine, you should add lava plume over body press on tork and stealth rocks over protect

[modest violet]

got it

[shadow oasis]

you should also probably change rapid spin over something else as well on torkoal

seen as tusk is doing that

[sacred ember]

you should probably try to finish the team then you can get help here

[modest violet]

now for remaking my awful rain team, you said mega pert with waterfall eq icepunch and either stealth rocks or flip turn

[shadow oasis]

yes

[modest violet]

idk weather to pick rocks or flip

[shadow oasis]

well if you go rocks u can go ferrothorn and put spikes

flip turn for pivoting out into ferro or zap or anything

its purely up to you

[modest violet]

hmmmm

also why isint normal swamperts hidden ability regenerator?

its partilly based on the axototl

[sacred ember]

no

it’s damp

[modest violet]

ik that smart@$$, i was just pointing out that it should be regenerator

[sacred ember]

I thought you mispelled ‘is’

[modest violet]

oh no i misspelled isn't

[shadow oasis]

hey

lets move on and contiune building yeah?

[modest violet]

yeah. i picked flip turn, whos next

[shadow oasis]

you got pelipper float and pert right

[modest violet]

mhm

[shadow oasis]

you should go kingambit ferro and zap last

zap is for kart and other phys attackers, it can stop them with static

ferrothorn has insane synergy with rain, removing its 4x weakness of fire

and can set hazards

and finally gambit for knocking items and sucker punching any threats that rain teams cant handle

[modest violet]

im guessing for gambit the same moves as on the sun team?

[shadow oasis]

yep

same set

[modest violet]

what item on ferro

[modest violet]

i got tbolt on zap, what else

[shadow oasis]

you could either go leftovers, rocky helmet or chople berry

[modest violet]

went rocky

[shadow oasis]

tbolt hurricane weather ball roost i think

[modest violet]

got it!

item for zap?

[shadow oasis]

boots

[modest violet]

k

https://pokepast.es/d4d99b4343e0831e hows it look

[shadow oasis]

offensive ferrothorn is bad run specially defensive

[modest violet]

https://pokepast.es/6f02e08bbdb7b0d2 how about now

[shadow oasis]

go power whip > seed bomb, thunder wave > spikes, leech seed > steel roller

[modest violet]

done

[shadow oasis]

go 104 hp evs on zap

max special attack rest in speed

timid

[modest violet]

k

anything else

[shadow oasis]

you want scald, defog, roost, u turn on pelipper

[modest violet]

done

[shadow oasis]

you might as well be banded on floatzel

add a choice band on it

[modest violet]

k

[shadow oasis]

go aqua jet > substitute and liquidation/waterfall > focus punch

[modest violet]

k

[shadow oasis]

then send team

[modest violet]

https://pokepast.es/342925b66aef88e0

[shadow oasis]

go 252 hp on ferro and add 4 physdef onto it instead

[modest violet]

k

[shadow oasis]

gambit should be 140 speed max attack rest into hp

[modest violet]

k

anything else

[shadow oasis]

we should add tera types onto this

ground on pelipper to bait electric attacks, keep mpert's as water, keep floatzel's as water, ghost on ferro to block rapid spins, tera steel on zap seen as its better into mega scizor and keep tera dark on gambit

[modest violet]

done

[shadow oasis]

ok! i think thats it!

let me know if u need anymore help

[modest violet]

nice

and i will, thanks!

[shadow oasis]

np

[modest violet]

🙂

[bronze oracle]

https://pokepast.es/f213f28f0c196c1c

had the urge to use suicune

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[shadow oasis]

whats the 8 spdef on kyurem for

[bronze oracle]

252 SpA Choice Specs Tapu Koko Dazzling Gleam vs. 56 HP / 8 SpD Kyurem: 342-404 (84.4 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[shadow oasis]

hmmm

idt specs koko is that good nowadays icl

but keeping it wont hurt

[bronze oracle]

Ye it's not a major drop in power

[shadow oasis]

well team looks fine

nice build

[bronze oracle]

ty

i finally gave up on waiting for tera ban and decided to embrace it with a cm user XD

[shadow oasis]

fair enough

#1030567099703242903 message read rule 3

[rapid crane]

You're no fun

[raven granite]

I think u get a more efficient cune spread if you go bold

[bronze oracle]

Why

This probably hits a certain benchmark

[raven granite]

I think you can hit the benchmark if you go bold

Dont quote me on that tho

Oh nvm tbis is a sample set

[raven granite]

Yeah bold nature with more speed evs makes you go from 304 defense to 309

[candid trail]

My gf tried to make a team out of her 6 favorite mons, do you think it's possible to achieve something with those? https://pokepast.es/e46113d5d5528f0b

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[shadow oasis]

#1030567099703242903 message read rule 3

[candid trail]

Oh I thought I should put it here because a mod linked this channel

Where do I put it then?

[lusty basalt]

https://pokepast.es/83e8c7df4206ab1c rmt

[iron summit]

Pretty balanced

[iron summit]

Id recommend use life orb greninja instead of spec

Also recommend adding psychic stab to victini for extra tusk coverage

Instead of toxic

[shadow oasis]

this is a gen 8 team

tusk doesnt exist

specs agren was the optimal set anyway

i dont see any flaws i think this team is fine

[iron summit]

Ohhhhhhh

[misty stratus]

could go encore instead of psychic too

or toxic

but ig u already got tricking fini

[noble warren]

i agr

[lusty basalt]

isnt thunder better because it hits both pex and fini

[iron summit]

💀

[misty stratus]

i didn't say removing thunder i was talking about toxic

[pulsar gull]

https://pokepast.es/0efe27741ae902f6 Pretty new to pokemon but this is a team I've been liking that I built

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cold fog]

https://pokepast.es/85eb968b5ec6d750

[sacred ember]

I’ve fought my friend and they were using this exact team

[cold fog]

word?

i mean i got this team from somoene else

[candid venture]

https://pokepast.es/1f1b6eb35db13868

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[polar haven]

https://pokepast.es/21e48b68aeedf062
in this team should i play swampert jolly or adamant?

[raven granite]

You want jolly to outspeed kart

Make pert rocks aw

[polar haven]

what?

[raven granite]

Since ferro is spikes pert would be your rocker

[polar haven]

ferro has spikes and rocks

[raven granite]

Oh i cant read whoops

[polar haven]

is gen 8 nat dex ou btw

[raven granite]

I am aware

I would go iron head over gyro on ferro since gyro means you lose to stuff you really really shouldnt

Mainly kyurem but sub mlati can abuse it aw

[polar haven]

can u explain

[raven granite]

8 pp is :(

So you end up losing to sub kyu and mlati

Main problem is sub mlati cause sub kyu has kinda fallen out of favor compared to 3a

[polar haven]

ok

so i give him iron head

[raven granite]

Dossnt mean you shouldnt prepare for it though

Yes instead of gyro ball

[polar haven]

any other advice?

[raven granite]

Im not the biggest fan of double hazards ferro and manaphy is way more consistent than qwilfish (even though qwilfish is super mega funny)

[polar haven]

https://pokepast.es/8613edbc852f4792

that?

[raven granite]

This is an entirely different team

[polar haven]

yeah

i know

[raven granite]

Dracozolt is pretty bad and i dont like corv very much

[polar haven]

any sugg?

[raven granite]

Idk im not particularly experienced with sand and dont really like it as a whole

But id probably do like

Clef over draco

And then like idk what youd do over corv

[polar haven]

Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature

• Stealth Rock
• Knock Off
• Moonblast
• Soft-Boiled

safety goggles?

[raven granite]

No

Mg protects you from sand

[polar haven]

whats mg

[raven granite]

Magic guard

Clefables ability

[polar haven]

ph yea

and what moves

[raven granite]

Id just use the sample cm set maybe you want fire blast here idk

[polar haven]

should i use whirlwind on hippo?

i'll not use haze on toxa

Toxapex @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 124 Def / 132 SpD
Impish Nature

• Toxic Spikes
• Knock Off
• Toxic
• Recover

ill use this set for toxa

with eject button

[raven granite]

no dont scaldless pex is incredibly abusable

and you dont need ww on hippo just do scald tox haze recover

[polar haven]

oke

is it ok eject button?

[raven granite]

eject buttons fine

[polar haven]

why should i use it?

[raven granite]

its a nice pivoting option for bringing in your breakers and honestly its not like pex is gonna die if it runs a less optimal item

you could make an argument for black sludge as well or rocky helmet

maybe invest some more in defense to handle weavile knock offs with sand in the picture better but calc that

[sly rivet]

https://pokepast.es/055263840765149d I’m very new and I built this team for SS OU, but then I figured out Natdex existed and it appeals to me a lot more. What can I do, if anything, to modify this team for natdex?

[raven granite]

Ss natdex or sv natdex

If this is ss well good luck using dragapult in ss natdex (its banned)

[sly rivet]

SS natdex, my bad. And it’s kinda strange but I play more often on a bit of a bootleg Pokémon showdown. Their list of bans apparently allows dragapult. Either way if we need to ditch dragapult that’s fine but I should be able to play with it.

[echo pawn]

https://pokepast.es/c390fd5ee6daf0d0

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[echo pawn]

idk how good bo is in natdex but i like the dual regen

what yall think

[shadow oasis]

you need a ground type here somewhere

maybe go glisc/lando > torn

[echo pawn]

bet

ty

[echo pawn]

i changed gambits tera to flying and the set to the sd set

does that change much or do i change it back

and went defog gliscor

with ko instead of eq

hows it smell

https://pokepast.es/fe8865ce2b2f5706

new pokepaste

[shadow oasis]

u definitely want eq

its mandatory

knock isnt as mandatory

also you dont want protect on garg, its a waste of a moveslot to be honest

you can probably swap out protect for eq or something

[echo pawn]

bet

[sacred ember]

it’s not really a waste cuz you can scout + get some leftovers recovery

[shadow oasis]

it is a waste

ideally you dont want protect on anything

you can have an extra move to hit some stuff

E.g body press for kingambit, weavile, other darks/rocks/steels or earthquake for heatran, diancie and other steel/rock/fire types

[polar haven]

anyone has a nice trickroom team for gen 8 natdex ou?

[raven granite]

Tr is unfortunately pretty bad

You can probably get away with like hatt/cress/alolawak/mmaw/p2/like daunt last

Tr is just super gimmicky though

Not rly that viable

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[mighty shore]

https://pokepast.es/ce417949fdc85871

[lusty basalt]

https://pokepast.es/8dafd88d290a1468

[sly rivet]

https://pokepast.es/f575334ffb3ecb11

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[candid venture]

https://pokepast.es/9a0b10bf3b369eac

[tranquil sedge]

https://pokepast.es/387a96f642bf9c05

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[tranquil sedge]

fixed my old ride or die team

aint sure if its good

[heavy quest]

Trick room team

https://pokepast.es/cbfde3336fe9922c

I used to run ursaluna over arctovish before it was banned

[stable abyss]

https://pokepast.es/52ff6d4bb54eb323 el psyspam

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[mighty shore]

All shiny 🤮

[hardy gust]

https://pokepast.es/c3d7421b6160455a

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[shadow oasis]

is fine put sam evs on tho

max speed max att

[hardy gust]

on my fault💀

but bet

[languid forge]

https://pokepast.es/a413d751d7dbdaf4

[cobalt skiff]

https://pokepast.es/ce95827cf00b7337 thoughts?

[languid forge]

https://pokepast.es/968fa601fb820432 opinions on this team?

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[modest tree]

https://pokepast.es/1f92516e4a8c440f

here i have a team for a tournament (not legendary pkmn)

[meager holly]

I recommend replacing arcanine, whimsicott and primarina with something else. Anything from the OU or UUBL list will do

Also u can afford to replace stealth rocks on clodsire with something else, maybe haze, poison jab or gunk shot.

Glimmora and kingambit sets look fine

I was also gonna say u could replace ice beam with chilly reception but then i realized its assault vest.

[modest tree]

and what should i change it for?

[modest tree]

yes yes, maybe replace it with scald but i think ice beam its okay

[meager holly]

Other than that i dont see anything that really stands out. Nice team

[modest tree]

thankss man, i was wondering some1 to answer me, tnku

[languid forge]

Thank you for the advice! I'll be changing that as soon as I possibly can

[cobalt skiff]

https://pokepast.es/80704b8a825c1f82 fun team

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[shadow oasis]

sand offense isnt great tbh and you kinda need a wall

so you dont just get set up on by everything

if you still wanna use sand offense you can go mega ttar instead of mega chomp and run excadrill alongside it

mega tyranitar, excadrill, skarmory, toxapex, kingambit, zapdos

its still an "offensive core" but has more of a defensive backbone onto it

[cobalt skiff]

any specific skarm set?

[shadow oasis]

96 speed 164 physdef bold

bodypress spikes roost iron defense

[cobalt skiff]

preciate it

@shadow oasis https://pokepast.es/0d7739c9bd9a11ec good fix or na

i think i should use sp def pex instead

[shadow oasis]

yeah could do

then glasses gambit

[cobalt skiff]

can i keep low kick

[shadow oasis]

if you can fit it yeah

[heavy quest]

.

[shadow oasis]

run sash over LO on hatt, that will be ur trick room lead. go slowbro < cresselia seen as its bulkier for a trick room setter and can provide luna dance support

go porygon 2 > zoroark hisui because you need at least 3 setters on a trick room team

[heavy quest]

Sounds good

[shadow oasis]

and run alolan marowak over blaziken, you dont need any fast mons on trick room

[heavy quest]

Ok thx

[prime heron]

https://pokepast.es/26ef47690177bb27 Can i have the thoughts of people smarter than me on this?

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[shadow oasis]

id probably go suicide lando over defensive

this seems like a HO build

[prime heron]

Why suicide lando in particlar?

[shadow oasis]

because it fits better than defensive on HO teams and you need the hazards as soon as possible to help the rest of ur team

[prime heron]

should i switch out stealth rock on diancie then?

[shadow oasis]

hmm

id say you need a steel type in general so you could probably go mega sciz > diancie

then put rocks on lando

[prime heron]

i think i also need some sort of water or ice type because i seem ot be struggling with landorus and great tusk lmao

[shadow oasis]

hmm yeah

well you could use baxcalibur

water resist, isnt scared of scald burns etc

really good behind screens

[prime heron]

ive never used it before, but i'll try it

dd?

[shadow oasis]

yeah

dd icicle spear eq glaive

with loaded dice

[cobalt skiff]

https://pokepast.es/fda76367a52e14b9

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[feral canopy]

yeah u should probably check out the samples

and probably the other getting started guides

you dont seem to understand how ev-ing works (or stats for the matter)

and half the mons in your team are not good, with the other half having bad sets

[meager holly]

^ like u could potentially do something with lele and pex but the rest is just eh dont use that pls. (Also pls use scald on pex instead of liquidation)

[raven granite]

Yeah liquidation on pex is the biggest crime here

[atomic plank]

https://pokepast.es/91fa0c50908c388d
can anyone give me any suggestions on what my last pokemon should be for nat dex

[feral canopy]

yeah there needs to be a lot of changes to this other than just one more mon

all of the sets here bar koko are not good

u have no ghost resist

and u cant properly beat top threats consistently

i would advise you to check out the samples or the bazaar teams

[atomic plank]

where can i find them?

[atomic plank]

should i swap out any pokemon and what pokemon should i add for the last slot

[feral canopy]

on the naydex forum

one sec

[atomic plank]

k

[feral canopy]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/forums/national-dex.731/

the latest bazaar posts and the samples i would recommend

[feral canopy]

you need to rebuild

[atomic plank]

ok

[atomic plank]

when making a new pokemon team what are key things i have to think about

[feral canopy]

look at the vr and try and deal with the things at the top

[atomic plank]

vr?

[feral canopy]

everything a- and higher are generally must-deal withs

viability rankings

its on the forums i linked

[atomic plank]

oh ok

[feral canopy]

you need a ground, ground immune, ghost resist/immune/hard ghost wall, strong water resist/way to out-offense rain

[atomic plank]

ok ty

[lusty basalt]

https://pokepast.es/845bcbaf489ea980

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[raven granite]

Scarf serp is blegh but i imagine thats what you built it around

[lusty basalt]

it revenges lop n gren

scarf lando seemed even worse

[raven granite]

So can scarf lele

[lusty basalt]

the idea was that serp knocks the common lati switchins (chansey, tran ferro)

glare asw

[raven granite]

Ig

You might wanna go fini > washer since atm your team seems p weak to gren + vile

[atomic plank]

Which offensive rain dance team is better. Team 1: https://pokepast.es/e0742c1b1a24c4e5. Team 2: https://pokepast.es/35354356de4b0736

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[pale spear]

The second

Altho u need knock on torn and a damage move of some sort of Ferro

[atomic plank]

k

[misty stratus]

on rain

btw

hurricane on torn

cuz 100% accurate in rain

pwhip probs over knock on ferro? u can try ebutton on it too

idk i think this does need a bit of fixing in general tbh

https://pokepast.es/1ffa2137dfc3b191 this kinda what standard rain look like

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[shadow oasis]

could go knock or twave over protect tbh

protect is a waste of a moveslot imo u dont really need it especially on rain

other than that its fine tbh

[feral canopy]

jolly on pert

so u can revenge +1 volc

idt u need that much speed either on mana, and wld value bulk more imo, tho idk

and zap > torn here

no use for av torn u got button ferro and gambit

[misty stratus]

you're the one who built this 😭

but ok

[raven granite]

It is almost like older teams can be improved upon by the same player

Anyways you're not supposed to post something that is not your team in rate my team anyways

[misty stratus]

i wasn't putting it to rate

i was giving an example of a rain team

and

we made it together

:/

know ur facts goof

[azure needle]

Can anyone help me with my team, I recently started competitive.

https://pokepast.es/a3c4ad632d295894

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[brazen dawn]

https://pokepast.es/e1b81e9bc589e076

[feral canopy]

ye i realised jolly on pert is prob better

and that u dont get much value from av torn

[misty stratus]

yeah nw bro haha

[ruby coral]

https://pokepast.es/818832009eed3179

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[ruby coral]

any suggestions for tr

[feral canopy]

change conk to mmaw, change minikyu to cresselia, change torkoal to crawdaunt

[ruby coral]

ic, what build do you recommend for craw? and for cress and mmaw is this fine?

https://pokepast.es/2085898cf7325c03

[shadow oasis]

could go Life orb daunt/water z daunt

[brazen dawn]

https://pokepast.es/e1b81e9bc589e076 any changes for this team?

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[shadow oasis]

go body press over protect on garg so it can beat gambit on its own

other than that looks ok

[brazen dawn]

k

thx

[shadow oasis]

oh and u got two rockers

probably could slot like spikes on chomp over it

[brazen dawn]

what about running iron def on garg instead of sr?

[shadow oasis]

that works too

didnt notice u didnt have idef tbh

[stiff kestrel]

https://pokepast.es/323a6971ecb6e627
how do I help w/ the bax koko matchup

at around mid 1800s

[subtle lance]

@cobalt skiff hidin being the only online rater

Aid this man

[stiff kestrel]

ykw fuck it

changing dozo's tera to fairy

grass is niche and I have megsab for leech

wait would tera fairy volc be better

@subtle lance

[subtle lance]

Lemme double check

I like tera grass better

With giga drain

[stiff kestrel]

even worse against bax then

[subtle lance]

Because it gives the same useful resistances while powering up giga drain

But

[subtle lance]

Shit thats true

I'm not that good at this i'm stuck at 1650 lol

But

Lemme put my 2 am brain and try to think of something

[subtle lance]

You could try the perish song azu set over altaria

That absolutely shits on baxc

[stiff kestrel]

nah it's not fast enough

[subtle lance]

And you don't have to fire spin it

But yea

It's

Slow

[stiff kestrel]

• they're not staying in

[subtle lance]

(True)

@pale spear can you

Give us some help here

Me summoning every natdex rater in the server:

[pale spear]

Sure

Lemme check

[subtle lance]

Ty

[pale spear]

Do u have the paste? You

[subtle lance]

.

[stiff kestrel]

changed volc to tera fairy

[pale spear]

I’m ngl hard stall in this gen is a massive mu fish bc of all the breakers

[stiff kestrel]

been doing p decent

[pale spear]

But u def at least ditch the altaria and put a glisc on it

[stiff kestrel]

peaked at 1880

[pale spear]

Also I think u want pex over volc

For regen pivots

And easier knock spreading

[hardy gust]

https://pokepast.es/e60d88ff6a156e2e

attempt at psyterrain team

[whole sandal]

im new to this format and also really bad lmao any suggestions / help welcome idk

[misty stratus]

btw mlop sucks on psyterrain

wehn one of the selling points of mlop is fake out and quick attack

also

psyspam with 1 psychic a bit sussy so idk if i'd call it that

[modern venture]

https://pokepast.es/a91bc5cb6f2a535b

me ajudem

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[frozen pine]

Oh hi

Can someone help me change this team

Because flatter mane is banned

https://pokepast.es/4e3f0e6dd9a95ae6

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[knotty lava]

any tips for https://pokepast.es/d535ddb58c6ad276 its an team used for (minecraft pixelmon) i'd rather not add legends. i am think about getting rid of either sneasler or the great tusk but i don't see any other pokes i could add. I have noticed my team struggles a pretty good bit against urshifu, rilla

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[knotty lava]

oh im sry

[shadow oasis]

no problem

[knotty lava]

any place i could get it rated?

for pixelmon

[shadow oasis]

maybe a pixelmon server

[knotty lava]

is it allowed to ask this question on comp general?

the rating atleast

[shadow oasis]

not really no

you could probably type up on google “pixelmon discord server” and it could probably give u some good ones

[knotty lava]

ahh okay thx will try that sry for wasting time 🙂

[shadow oasis]

nah u arent wasting any of my time, dont worry about it and good luck with the team

[ruby coral]

https://pokepast.es/5c93d398cea575e8 which build is better for trick room

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[shadow oasis]

healing wish probably

TR isnt a great archetype but as long as u have one stab mystical fire trick room and filler then its fine

healing wish is probably best to heal any of ur important mons like awak or mmawile

[ruby coral]

ic sure so can use it as a lead and then sac with healing wish good idea?

[shadow oasis]

ideally you probably get hit down to sash, set up trick room, then healing wish

because as soon as a mon comes in thats damaged gets healed by healing wish

[dawn herald]

Please rate my team! feel free to make changes and replacements this is not a final team. Thanks.

[shadow oasis]

use pokepaste its easier than screenshotting all the sets

[dawn herald]

This is poke paste I don’t know how to use it on mobile

[shadow oasis]

oh

hmm well umbreon, amuk and corv arent good i wouldnt recommend using them

[dawn herald]

What should I use

Instead of them

[tired bear]

Most helpful competitive helper

[tired bear]

I like the team. No legendaries! Just how the game was intended to be played. Fair and honest

[feral canopy]

TRUE

@shadow oasis @pale spear Listen Up. MMxLegend is speaking.

[pale spear]

thats so sick

[shadow oasis]

amazing

[shadow oasis]

also wydm by this

[shadow oasis]

sorry i went to sleep

anyways what was the team supposed to be? it had a mix of HO mons like mgyara and more defensive mons like pex

[feral canopy]

its sarcasm for "this guy is NOT helpful"

[shadow oasis]

bruh im right they arent good

[feral canopy]

oh wait misread

yes ur right

i was just clarifting

[shadow oasis]

and then i fell asleep

oopss

[tired bear]

I promise it wasn’t sarcasm

[shadow oasis]

melon

[tired bear]

[lapis sleet]

https://pokepast.es/f65491fb2845b5a3

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[lapis sleet]

would try to also get some feedback

[tired bear]

🔥🔥🔥

Don’t make any changes

[dry rivet]

That's likely not good feedback for a channel like this

[shadow oasis]

honestly i would look at the samples to see whats good in the metagame first before making a team

the samples just got updated very recently and they will help significantly when learning a tier

[tranquil sedge]

we truly live in a society
so i made this
https://pokepast.es/582d1cfc2b641f87

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[cerulean summit]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scarfed-victini-sun-1300.3725696/ rate my team here please thank you (victini sun)

[dawn herald]

Very unique but why have water types on a sun team?

[tall stirrup]

Mono ice for nat dex ou
https://pokepast.es/3c22e5083b07dc2f

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[raven granite]

Dont use mono ice in natdex ou 👍

[tall stirrup]

I reached 1600 with it 👍

[rotund delta]

yes he is being super helpful actually

[rotund delta]

still don’t use it 👍

just play monotype

[tired bear]

I’m joking

[rotund delta]

i figured

but like people are gonna take that at face value sometimes

[tired bear]

Yeah. I tried to be pretty obvious I was joking, idk if anyone noticed but that makes it even funnier to me

[tired bear]

Looking back up, that actually wasn’t great advice. Shoulda told him what he told the other guy, just use samples if your new to a tier

[rotund delta]

some new players might take your jokes as actual advice

[tired bear]

Not saying he was wrong, but probably a better way to help these players if we’re being honest. Most new players don’t really know how to take advice and sometimes ask for it seeking validation instead of criticism. Samples honestly the best thing you can recommend to them until they’re intermediate and gain a little understanding of the game first. It’s fair to answer any questions ofc. This is just my opinion

[tired bear]

I wasn’t disagreeing with this. I don’t think advising newer players is gonna be that helpful because chances they’re not gonna follow that advice or may struggle with applying it, especially long term. Samples are a good way to start because it alleviates some of the stresses of playing a new tier, especially if your a new player, it could be overwhelming. I do this myself, I consider myself an intermediate player and I still use samples personally 🤔

[knotty lava]

any advice? https://pokepast.es/a918f4c494d05fb3

[shadow oasis]

medicham gained close combat this gen, so you can use that instead of high jump kick

[spiral basin]

How good is this team? I am new starting up in comp pokemon and want to get into it after seeing a bunch of Wolfy videos. Any tips on pokemon to take out or good options to use instead are appreciated.

https://pokepast.es/d56d674e35ad6d82

[raven granite]

that is for doubles ou this chat is for natdex ou

[spiral basin]

I apologize

Where can I go to get this team rated?

[spiral basin]

^

[raven granite]

check the one named doubles ou

[spiral basin]

thank u!

[knotty lava]

any other advice? i was also thinking of replacing it for lopunny since it was faster

[shadow oasis]

go knock over klowtow on kingambit

and remove sd for pursuit to trap pult

[knotty lava]

okay thanks any advice for weakness what i should look out for?

[shadow oasis]

dont really see any major weaknesses

just keep kingambit alive for pult always

[subtle lance]

This is my first time trying something that is not Screens in the NatDex tier

https://pokepast.es/91eb86ddabb607a4

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[subtle lance]

Can't make any promises but I tried, any suggestions are appreciated

[pale spear]

yard tends to focus on very specific structures that need proper support

for example ur fastest mon cannon be charizard

u need speed control, scarf victini is a popula r choice bc u get sun boosted vcreate

[subtle lance]

I very much forgot about speed control

Lmao

What do i replace with vict

[pale spear]

u can ditch the ghold

[subtle lance]

Yeah i thought so

[pale spear]

also make lando fog

[subtle lance]

Gotcha

V create bolt strike u turn trick?

[pale spear]

yeah

[subtle lance]

Ait

Anything else?

Also lefties or helmet on ferro, forgot to ask that

[shadow oasis]

lefties is fine

could keep rocks on lando and then have spikes on ferro seen as u already have removal in tusk

[subtle lance]

I was

[subtle lance]

Yeah I did that

It wasn't in my mind to use lando when I put ferro

Then i put lando later

And forgot

I noticed this literally 3 minutes ago lmao

[tawdry imp]

Dm me raters......

[ruby sorrel]

https://pokepast.es/35eeaea916c054e0

someone pls rate my team

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[shadow oasis]

this is an ubers team go to #1060037469472555028 for that

[ruby sorrel]

oh sorry mb

[shadow oasis]

all good

[dusky carbon]

https://pokepast.es/12dc058548a00a99

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[dusky carbon]

yoo george is a rated

r

[polar haven]

does anyone have a team with zeroora for gen 8 natdex ou?

[crisp osprey]

.

[raven granite]

Bad poke do not use

[polar haven]

whyy

[raven granite]

does 0 damage

[rancid goblet]

Zeroara is better in gen 8 ou than nat dex

[woven garden]

Find a way to make it work

[raven granite]

Even if it can work it will suck lol

If you want an electric type pivot you use tapu koko

[woven garden]

If it's a Pokemon he's stubborn on wanting to use then i say let him, but let him figure out a niche for it himself

[atomic plank]

https://pokepast.es/d88e3c29e5ec4883 this is for nat dex i'm thinking of taking out blissey for an electric type but i'm not sure if i should what do you guys think and if i should change anything.

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[hard creek]

https://pokepast.es/282f7d3fa55c6fd3 I forgot a steel oops ;-;

[sacred ember]

don’t use scarf heatran

[frosty zephyr]

you're a silly pbfie

[clear wadi]

thoughts on good defensive cores
so if ever i field slowbro and ferrothorn what would i use to make the defense ironclad? cuz i see a huge problem who's named swords dance garchomp
like, aside from hitting it with something faster, what can theoretically take a hit before u turning outta there to pivot into something safer?

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[shadow oasis]

thats for #1060037469472555028

this is Natdex OU rates

[shadow oasis]

no no its okay dw

just know for next time

[raven granite]

Erm how about no

[woven garden]

It's not really a question

If you're really stubborn on using a Pokemon then sure you can but just find a use for it that makes it a good enough option

[raven granite]

Its pretty bad tho

[woven garden]

I'm not asking nor debating i'm saying

[woven garden]

I agree

Alot

[raven granite]

If you want a speed control pivot just use mlop

[woven garden]

So many better options

[woven garden]

Yea but if you're stubborn on using a certain Pokemon

[raven granite]

Are they stubborn though

[woven garden]

Probably i hope not

But good chance

But if they're willing to use something else
Then there's no question that they should

[spring imp]

https://pokepast.es/4b0491a36f59944a
this is a team i made and im asking if its ok

be brutally honest

i dont care how brutal it will be as long as its useful

[feral drum]

https://pokepast.es/ecb6e010acac90de

Gen 8 National Dex

[raven granite]

Why is chomp stomping tantrum

Feels like no matter the answer youd rather just hit things harder with eq

[feral drum]

90% of the time Grassy Terrain's gonna be up because it enables Melmetal to such an obscene degree.

So I'm overall getting more out of Tantrum than I would EQ.

And also because Chomp benefits from the terrain itself.

Weavile is the mon that doesn't really feel like it's doing much if anything

Scarf Kart/Serp are obvious answers I guess to put over it, but both don't really help deal with Zap and Such, and Scarf Serp I'm like 90% sure is bad anyway.

[spring imp]

i should clarify gen 9 natdex

[feral drum]

Another thing is Kyurem is a game of cat and mouse and I can just "win faster" atm but I'd rather not leave it up to that lol.

[raven granite]

Oh yeah right weavile as your speed control also sucks a lot

[spring imp]

https://pokepast.es/4b0491a36f59944a
gen 9 natdex, horrible attempt at an electric terrain team

[celest merlin]

New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @shadow oasis. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[spring imp]

oh damn

[pale spear]

defensive landorust> rotom wash (probably sr but u can run defog lando and rocks ferro also), put a bit more spdef into ferro so u can absorb moonblasts better, and having 3 fighting types feels super off so maybe u can replace the medicham with a different breaker (pursuit kingambit would be nice here for pult trapping)