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celest merlinBOT Apr 2, 2023, 2:24 AM

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hushed topaz Apr 2, 2023, 2:57 AM

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deft sequoia Apr 2, 2023, 3:08 AM

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haven't played with the funny dino lizard yet https://pokepast.es/d4fad5fd32b4f046

noble idol Apr 2, 2023, 3:35 AM

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Haha thanks :),still asking that question

plain epoch Apr 2, 2023, 5:24 AM

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https://pokepast.es/9a42a6362516a709 rate pls

low parcel Apr 2, 2023, 6:55 AM

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taped this team together earlier today using a collective 3 brain cells, thoughts?
https://pokepast.es/bc549f3f5e9a95cd

noble idol Apr 2, 2023, 1:20 PM

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@spare kiln theese guys?

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Well,I decided to do Dragmag in Gen 9 Natdex
https://pokepast.es/64aae3eeeb27ce47
Roast this monstrosity I wiped up in 5 minutes

celest merlinBOT Apr 2, 2023, 1:29 PM

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noble idol Apr 2, 2023, 1:32 PM

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Aslo you guys should rate the others to

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Your team is Incomplete

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AGAIN

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PLEASE JUST PUT LIKE....AVALUGG AND THEN POST IT PLEAAAAAASE

spare kiln Apr 2, 2023, 1:42 PM

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noble idol <@784027503764963348> theese guys?

What do you want me to do

noble idol Apr 2, 2023, 1:43 PM

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spare kiln What do you want me to do

Rating the guys above+My abomination

plain epoch Apr 2, 2023, 1:55 PM

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plain epoch https://pokepast.es/9a42a6362516a709 rate pls

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spare kiln Apr 2, 2023, 1:58 PM

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plain epoch .

You trying to build around, mainly which pokemon

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@plain epoch

limber crypt Apr 2, 2023, 2:11 PM

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noble idol Well,I decided to do Dragmag in Gen 9 Natdex https://pokepast.es/64aae3eeeb27ce4...

i think cyclizar > zone and mgyara > mchomp should work for this

noble idol Apr 2, 2023, 2:11 PM

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limber crypt i think cyclizar > zone and mgyara > mchomp should work for this

This is dragmag

raven granite Apr 2, 2023, 2:12 PM

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noble idol This is dragmag

I think he is trying to say that dragmag is bad

noble idol Apr 2, 2023, 2:13 PM

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raven granite I think he is trying to say that dragmag is bad

Man,10-20 minutes ago I said "FUCK IT, I'm gonna build dragmag lol"

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(In my mind)

raven granite Apr 2, 2023, 2:14 PM

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noble idol Man,10-20 minutes ago I said "FUCK IT, I'm gonna build dragmag lol"

And it is bad

noble idol Apr 2, 2023, 2:14 PM

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Yeah haha lol Ik Ik

feral canopy Apr 2, 2023, 2:27 PM

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drags work but dragmag doesnt bc our drag cplay is fairys that zone loses to and weavile and being walled by fat mons

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by drags i also dont mean drags i mean good pokemon that just happen to share the dragon type. but dont actually abuse the type offensively

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finding a good rapid spin user is the least of ur concerns

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the only workable mons on this team if you want it to be a ho is grimm tar and maybe kart

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and ull need to change karts set

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u shld probably check the samples and try those out for an idea of a good team

spare kiln Apr 2, 2023, 2:32 PM

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feral canopy drags work but dragmag doesnt bc our drag cplay is fairys that zone loses to and...

All the time by mag I was thinking about Magerna

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Which is banned

feral canopy Apr 2, 2023, 2:32 PM

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mag is magnezone

spare kiln Apr 2, 2023, 2:40 PM

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Yea lol I just realized when I posted the message above

lusty basalt Apr 2, 2023, 4:13 PM

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https://pokepast.es/9142988f40c9d1bd this team has been working p well 4 me and Ive been thinking abt submitting it 2 samples but wanted 2 get some thoughts on it 1st

dusk flare Apr 2, 2023, 4:17 PM

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lusty basalt https://pokepast.es/9142988f40c9d1bd this team has been working p well 4 me and ...

seems fine imo

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not seeing anything huge here

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i suppose gambit ability is interchangeable for defiant

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but otherwise nm 👍🏿

lusty basalt Apr 2, 2023, 4:23 PM

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ok

lusty basalt Apr 2, 2023, 4:41 PM

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thanks

low parcel Apr 2, 2023, 5:40 PM

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https://pokepast.es/5be2148bfb32f915
started playing natdex yesterday and ive gotten to like 1200 so far with this. thoughts?

hushed topaz Apr 2, 2023, 5:53 PM

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I’m not sure what the team is built around it just kinda has 6 good mons thrown together

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It lacks any cohesive thought behind it

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The rain MU is an auto 6-0

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The sun MU is pretty awful

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The team makes no progress vs fat or stall

plain epoch Apr 2, 2023, 6:23 PM

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https://pokepast.es/be93e1191d472728

spare kiln Apr 2, 2023, 7:20 PM

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plain epoch https://pokepast.es/be93e1191d472728

What mon is the team built around

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I see fwg and fsd

deft sequoia Apr 2, 2023, 8:21 PM

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deft sequoia haven't played with the funny dino lizard yet https://pokepast.es/d4fad5fd32b4f0...

@spare kiln

feral canopy Apr 3, 2023, 1:31 AM

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spare kiln I see fwg and fsd

u cant build like this in nd

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or most tiers

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type cores dont work because pokemon have coverage and status moves

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and not all pokemon have bulk

feral canopy Apr 3, 2023, 1:34 AM

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deft sequoia haven't played with the funny dino lizard yet https://pokepast.es/d4fad5fd32b4f0...

remove gastro rotom wake and shifu

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add mpert zapdos/torn and ferro and either gambit or weavile

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wake is just outclassed on rain

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it works best on sun

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and its solid outside of it too

feral canopy Apr 3, 2023, 1:39 AM

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plain epoch https://pokepast.es/be93e1191d472728

make zor tomb 2a and make volc agren

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team is v slow otherwise

feral canopy Apr 3, 2023, 1:41 AM

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low parcel https://pokepast.es/5be2148bfb32f915 started playing natdex yesterday and ive go...

what did u builld this around

deft sequoia Apr 3, 2023, 3:05 AM

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feral canopy it works best on sun

I'll be back

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I just wanna use wake lol

feral canopy Apr 3, 2023, 3:33 AM

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yeah then sun works best

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ppl have experimented with it outside of sun too to good effec

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subsunny day

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or iust specs

plain epoch Apr 3, 2023, 4:59 AM

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feral canopy make zor tomb 2a and make volc agren

zor is scizor right? whats tomb and 2a?

pale spear Apr 3, 2023, 7:40 AM

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plain epoch zor is scizor right? whats tomb and 2a?

Tomb is sand tomb

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2a refers to 2 attacks msciz with sdance bullet roost and a last

spare kiln Apr 3, 2023, 10:30 AM

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feral canopy u cant build like this in nd

Yea lol ik

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Was just saying they were trying to build around those cores, prob should have gone more detail I slept my bad

spare kiln Apr 3, 2023, 11:45 AM

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plain epoch zor is scizor right? whats tomb and 2a?

Also maybe change Scizor's ev spread

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To max HP for bulk it needs

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And give it 220 speed evs for it to outspeed magnezone and ko it before it kills you with hp fire

spare kiln Apr 3, 2023, 11:46 AM

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spare kiln And give it 220 speed evs for it to outspeed magnezone and ko it before it kills...

Oh and it also outspeeds the sp.def set of heatran, just gotta be sure it isn't offensive

iron summit Apr 3, 2023, 10:49 PM

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Trying to make a hyper offense team any suggestions: https://pokepast.es/dd5412838da8fe66

celest merlinBOT Apr 3, 2023, 10:49 PM

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hushed topaz Apr 3, 2023, 10:54 PM

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this is hyper offense?

iron summit Apr 3, 2023, 10:56 PM

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Kinda

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I needed ttar for charizard counter

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But my sweeper is pult

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And wallbreaker is hoops

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Ig it isn’t really hyper offense but like kinda functions similarly maybe should replace moltres

spare kiln Apr 4, 2023, 12:10 AM

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iron summit Trying to make a hyper offense team any suggestions: https://pokepast.es/dd54128...

It's not HO tbh

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Also moltres is kinda only very good in stall teams, you can use something like Volc

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They very much aren't the same but if you'd prefer a defensive flying I'd say go Zapdos, it gets static too

deft sequoia Apr 4, 2023, 2:10 AM

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https://pokepast.es/7a33bc6fb6c2d0ca

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@feral canopy

feral canopy Apr 4, 2023, 2:58 AM

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iron summit Ig it isn’t really hyper offense but like kinda functions similarly maybe should...

it doesnt function similiarl at all

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it plays very differently

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u have 0 sweepers

feral canopy Apr 4, 2023, 3:01 AM

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deft sequoia https://pokepast.es/7a33bc6fb6c2d0ca

make venu non mega

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make ceruledge kingambit

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make garchomp hatt

deft sequoia Apr 4, 2023, 3:02 AM

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Hooray more hatt

feral canopy Apr 4, 2023, 3:13 AM

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u should remove everything

pure meteor Apr 4, 2023, 5:33 AM

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https://pokepast.es/e748e802658515d8
the cyclizar set was supposed to kill opposing dragapult or something asinine like that, I don't really remember tbh

celest merlinBOT Apr 4, 2023, 5:33 AM

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pale spear Apr 4, 2023, 10:21 AM

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pure meteor https://pokepast.es/e748e802658515d8 the cyclizar set was supposed to kill oppo...

whats ur idea here

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bc there absolutely no defensive backbone in sight

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but it doesnt rly look like a standard ho

pure meteor Apr 4, 2023, 10:22 AM

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pale spear whats ur idea here

basically i get rid of the fairies using mawile and steels using zone and then just kill everything with the dragons

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although i have been having problems defensively

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so there's probably something to be done there

pale spear Apr 4, 2023, 10:23 AM

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im ngl to u

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the tier has a complete dirth of defensive fairies

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so u dont rly need to focus on removing them

pure meteor Apr 4, 2023, 10:23 AM

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ic

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so in that case, what should i focus on

pale spear Apr 4, 2023, 10:24 AM

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regarding hydreigon, it doesnt rly benefit as much from removing dragon resists as it does removing dark resists

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bc its dark stab is a lot more spammable than its dragon stab

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id start off by making drei specs tera dark with flash cannon > focus energy

pure meteor Apr 4, 2023, 10:25 AM

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pale spear bc its dark stab is a lot more spammable than its dragon stab

my idea was to make draco spammable by forcing crits to ignore the spa drop

pale spear Apr 4, 2023, 10:25 AM

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the problem is u need a turn to setup

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which drei struggles to get

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and even after u get that turn u can still be reveng ekilled very easily

pure meteor Apr 4, 2023, 10:26 AM

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that's why i tried to put stuff like cyclizar to support it

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yea, i've noticed it's a tad slow

pale spear Apr 4, 2023, 10:26 AM

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its more preferable to just click click w/o having to commit to setting urself up

pure meteor Apr 4, 2023, 10:26 AM

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but then again nasty plot also needs a turn

pale spear Apr 4, 2023, 10:27 AM

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i think we can compress a slight defensive core here by making heatran more specially defensive and then adding a landorus-t and rotom-w instead of the magnezone and cyclizar

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and then for your speed control we can make iron valiant a scarfer or a different scarfer like lele

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u dont rly need val or lele as a breaker since maw and drei alr hit so hard

pure meteor Apr 4, 2023, 10:28 AM

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give me a sec

pure meteor Apr 4, 2023, 10:30 AM

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pale spear u dont rly need val or lele as a breaker since maw and drei alr hit so hard

something like this? |
Mawile-Mega @ Mawilite
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature

Iron Head
Sucker Punch
Play Rough
Swords Dance

Hydreigon @ Scope Lens
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Focus Energy
Draco Meteor
Dark Pulse
Flamethrower

the tran (Heatran) @ Air Balloon
Ability: Flash Fire
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Magma Storm
Will-O-Wisp
Earth Power
Stealth Rock

Iron Valiant @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Moonblast
Focus Blast
Psyshock
Psychic

Landorus-Therian (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature

Defog
U-turn
Earthquake
Knock Off

Rotom-Wash @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Volt Switch
Hydro Pump
Thunder Wave
Pain Split

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i might need a z-move user though

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imo it's a bit of an opportunity cost not having one

pale spear Apr 4, 2023, 10:33 AM

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pure meteor something like this? | Mawile-Mega @ Mawilite Ability: Intimidate Tera Type:...

hydreigon choice specs, heatran shld have taunt/toxic and leftovers over willo and air balloon, val wants trick and maybe knock somewhere there, lando and wash shld both be physdef

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bc spdef lando and offensive wash dont check the threats they need to

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fighters for lando and waters for wash

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also z-move users arent like that important in nd

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esp not gen 9

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so if u cant fit one dw abt it

pure meteor Apr 4, 2023, 10:35 AM

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pale spear hydreigon choice specs, heatran shld have taunt/toxic and leftovers over willo a...

Mawile-Mega @ Mawilite
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature

Iron Head
Sucker Punch
Play Rough
Swords Dance

Hydreigon @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Flash Cannon
Draco Meteor
Dark Pulse
Flamethrower

the tran (Heatran) @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Magma Storm
Toxic
Earth Power
Stealth Rock

Iron Valiant @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature

Moonblast
Trick
Knock Off
Focus Blast

Landorus-Therian (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Impish Nature

Defog
U-turn
Earthquake
Knock Off

Rotom-Wash @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Volt Switch
Hydro Pump
Thunder Wave
Pain Split

is this better?

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it seems pretty solid but i want to make sure i have the right evs

pale spear Apr 4, 2023, 10:35 AM

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yeah

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just fix tera types

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drei u want tera dark for maximum clickage, lando u want water to resist ice and water in a crutch, and rotom u want steel

pure meteor Apr 4, 2023, 10:36 AM

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pale spear drei u want tera dark for maximum clickage, lando u want water to resist ice and...

just curious, why is an offensive tera in dark on hyd better than a defensive one in poison?

pale spear Apr 4, 2023, 10:38 AM

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most non-setup breakers prefer to hit as hard as possible with same-type tera

pure meteor Apr 4, 2023, 10:38 AM

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fair enough

pale spear Apr 4, 2023, 10:38 AM

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and hydreigon's natural typing is actually pretty good for giving it opportunites against like skele and rotom

pure meteor Apr 4, 2023, 10:39 AM

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okay

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what should I use as an answer for heatran?

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in this set

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i'm guessing it's lando but offensive heatran'd do quite a bit

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since it's physdef

feral canopy Apr 4, 2023, 12:15 PM

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pure meteor Mawile-Mega @ Mawilite Ability: Intimidate Tera Type: Dark EVs: 248 HP / 2...

make rotom leftied and give it some speed evs and wisp

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make maw knock off over iron head

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tbolt over knock off on val

feral canopy Apr 4, 2023, 12:16 PM

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pale spear drei u want tera dark for maximum clickage, lando u want water to resist ice and...

u want ghost here surely

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or poison

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if not zama and tusk can get scary

pale spear Apr 4, 2023, 12:17 PM

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shut up

feral canopy Apr 4, 2023, 12:17 PM

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with just lando as the cplay

pale spear Apr 4, 2023, 12:17 PM

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outpoay

feral canopy Apr 4, 2023, 12:17 PM

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howl

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🥸

pale spear Apr 4, 2023, 12:17 PM

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outplay]

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 4:42 PM

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yea bro just outpoay

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 4:58 PM

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https://pokepast.es/f837da0bde43e936

celest merlinBOT Apr 4, 2023, 4:58 PM

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New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 4:58 PM

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Viable or not?

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:01 PM

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id just use fog torn > av, rocks > spikes on ferro, thunder + weather ball > volt switch and defog on zap, and this should be fine

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what are the attack evs on ferro for

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:03 PM

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dusk flare what are the attack evs on ferro for

it was meant to KO opposing mega swamp

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but it turns out it only 2HKOs

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;-;

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:03 PM

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if they click a water move they should be put in range of it anyways

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or at least close to being ko'd

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:04 PM

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dusk flare id just use fog torn > av, rocks > spikes on ferro, thunder + weather ball > vol...

I slapped AV torn because I had trouble switching into special moves

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:04 PM

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fog zap is not much better than fog torn ftr

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:04 PM

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I needed an answer to gren as well (some mf tera water pumped turn one and it did like 40% to my ferro)

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:04 PM

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well

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gren is gonna beat av torn regardless

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especially with rocks up

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and rain being up thats like, much much worse for you as well

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:05 PM

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I also prefer zap as support

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come in

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defog

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and then pivot away

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because I do have power in my team

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I just seem to be lacking switch ins

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:06 PM

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that dosent end up being too effective because you're a major momentum sink into grounds (gastro, clod, glisc, etc)

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you need wball on rain if you dont want to waste rain turns

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fog torn can compress fogging + pivoting so you dont waste rain turns

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:06 PM

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unreal canopy I just seem to be lacking switch ins

to who in particular

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or just general defensive mons

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because this is rain, a naturally offensive playstyle

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:06 PM

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specs tera water gren

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;-;

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I was like

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wtf

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:06 PM

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tbf

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:06 PM

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BRO TERA'D TURN ONE

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:07 PM

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ferro needs to be physdef for dnite + av torn doesnt resist water and loses to dark pulse if you tera water anyways

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so thats just an issue regardless lol

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:07 PM

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I saw some guy tera their urshifu water to surging strikes me only to take 90% chip dmg from ferro

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:07 PM

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LOL

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:07 PM

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dusk flare ferro needs to be physdef for dnite + av torn doesnt resist water and loses to d...

I got tera water for it

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:D

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:07 PM

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dark pulse :(

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and you dont have a dark resist

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:08 PM

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I often find defog torn to be hard to pull off due to its frailty

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:08 PM

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if you want better gren counterplay it has to be an urshifu somewhere

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:08 PM

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unreal canopy I often find defog torn to be hard to pull off due to its frailty

the issue is that fog zap + av torn is a bigger compromise than offensive weather ball zap + fog torn

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you give up better offensive potential for a sidegrade check to gren (or whatever other special attacker you were trying to beat)

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:09 PM

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hm

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so you reckon

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I should just go for the hyper-offensive playstyle

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:09 PM

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but i mean you can go fog peli if you want

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:09 PM

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just spam strong wallbreakers?

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:09 PM

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well

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its rain so that is mostly the point (ofc rain tends to be more defensive than hyper offense)

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but id rather use offensive zap

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:10 PM

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this better?

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OH YEAH

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also

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:11 PM

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thunder > volt switch imo

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:11 PM

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barrascewda is a problem too

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:11 PM

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dusk flare thunder > volt switch imo

oop aight

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:11 PM

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whats the spdef for on ferro

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:11 PM

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dusk flare whats the spdef for on ferro

taking opponent water attacks.

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:11 PM

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hm.

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:12 PM

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iirc I put the spdef investment to take a pump from specs tera water gren LMFAO

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:12 PM

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LOL

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:12 PM

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either that or I'm just stupid

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:12 PM

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yeah thats a pipe dream especially in rain (it probably 2hkoes anyways)

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:12 PM

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I assume I did it for a reason

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:12 PM

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if you're having trouble with barra you can try more physdef on ferro

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:12 PM

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it was also ASH GREN

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well

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gen 9 ash

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because gen 9 got no more ash ketchum

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so no mroe ash form

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but YEAH TAKING A TERA WATER + 1 HYDRO PUMP IN RAIN FROM GREN

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IS NOT FUN

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:13 PM

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it is far from fun i agree

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its kind of a "cope" situation if using rain though

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:13 PM

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aight gonna try my first game

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:13 PM

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gl!

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:13 PM

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:D

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enemy

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has a rilla

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fuck

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:16 PM

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dw ur fine

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torn + zap beats easily

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:17 PM

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true

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pls be banded pls be banded pls be banded

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LETS GO

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:18 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/are-ya-winning-son-gif-18099517

Tenor

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:19 PM

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yeah

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:19 PM

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dusk flare https://tenor.com/view/are-ya-winning-son-gif-18099517

I lost

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:19 PM

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fuck.

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:19 PM

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I forgot

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my torn

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wasn't AV

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LMFAO

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I WAS LIKE

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:19 PM

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LOL

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😭

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:19 PM

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"yeah I can tank this hurricane"

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NOPE

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LMFAO

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and then my zap was already chipped

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so after torn died I basically lost cuz no answers to rillaboom

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ferro was also chipped heavily cuz this mf is running garchomp with sd and smack down

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:20 PM

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smack down

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:20 PM

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bro I love low ladder

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:20 PM

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low ladder is something else

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:21 PM

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then again

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I could just be ass

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but I peaked 1400 so idk if thats good or bad

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ig for natdex OU it's pre bad

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:21 PM

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thats not bad at all

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high ladder is like 1700+ so you're basically more than halfway there

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:22 PM

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:p

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:22 PM

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if you need help with teams dont be afraid to ask here

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:22 PM

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I'm going to play braindead

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for some reason in low ladder these guys don't switch

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and I over-predict

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:23 PM

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its best to play safe in low ladder because people arent really making double switches or predicting themselves

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just do the obvious things

hushed topaz Apr 4, 2023, 5:23 PM

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unreal canopy I'm going to play braindead

Tbf you’re using rain

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That’s how you play rain

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:23 PM

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and this

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:23 PM

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lmfao

hushed topaz Apr 4, 2023, 5:24 PM

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go Peli t1, click rain boosted attacks for 5 turns, go back into Peli, repeat

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:24 PM

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hushed topaz go Peli t1, click rain boosted attacks for 5 turns, go back into Peli, repeat

the thing is

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my peli got fucked turn 1

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I got critted

hushed topaz Apr 4, 2023, 5:24 PM

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From what

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:24 PM

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rain is fun to play but its kinda scary

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:24 PM

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hushed topaz From what

kommo-o

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I stayed in to hurricane but ig that was a bad play

hushed topaz Apr 4, 2023, 5:25 PM

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You should never stay in on Kommo-o

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It zs on you for free

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:26 PM

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yea...

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FUCKK

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I love this game

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two hurricane misses in a row

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rain is gone so I got them 70% accs now

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me when I encounter another guy running a rain team

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:33 PM

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hushed topaz go Peli t1, click rain boosted attacks for 5 turns, go back into Peli, repeat

you are right

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what am I doing trying to predict their next switch in

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All I have to do is turn 1 peli, then switch into zap/Mega swamp, and then fuck their team

hushed topaz Apr 4, 2023, 5:33 PM

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You literally don’t have to predict unless they have water immune

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:34 PM

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unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:34 PM

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hushed topaz You literally don’t have to predict unless they have water immune

rain does so much dmg to resists holy fu

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how much does rain boost by? 1.5x?

dusk flare Apr 4, 2023, 5:38 PM

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ye

unreal canopy Apr 4, 2023, 5:42 PM

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WHY DOES HIS DIANCIA AND RILLA

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BOTH RUN PROTECT

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motherfucker had protect on rilla

raven granite Apr 4, 2023, 7:19 PM

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unreal canopy WHY DOES HIS DIANCIA AND RILLA

Diancie can run protect to scout stuff like cb vile while rilla could be using it to maximize it's recovery

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Doesnt mean they're good options tho

unreal canopy Apr 5, 2023, 1:00 AM

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how does one counter ferrothorn?

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enemy ferrothorn

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in a rain team

feral canopy Apr 5, 2023, 1:01 AM

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ur own ferro + ur flyings + hit it repeatedly

hushed topaz Apr 5, 2023, 1:06 AM

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unreal canopy how does one counter ferrothorn?

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heres a list of ou specific pokemon that beat ferrothorn in one form or another

unreal canopy Apr 5, 2023, 1:09 AM

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hushed topaz heres a list of ou specific pokemon that beat ferrothorn in one form or another

rilla beats ferro?

feral canopy Apr 5, 2023, 1:09 AM

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hushed topaz

he’s referring to his rain team

unreal canopy Apr 5, 2023, 1:10 AM

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feral canopy ur own ferro + ur flyings + hit it repeatedly

oh true yea

hushed topaz Apr 5, 2023, 1:10 AM

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for rain

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knock it using your own ferro

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and attack it until it dies

unreal canopy Apr 5, 2023, 1:12 AM

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huh

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yikes alr

golden mural Apr 5, 2023, 6:14 PM

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https://pokepast.es/7a88a643cd301a04 any improvemets to be made"

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?

celest merlinBOT Apr 5, 2023, 6:14 PM

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New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

golden mural Apr 5, 2023, 6:15 PM

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lando t seems to be slightly awkward for me dk if there are better mons to use since im not quite familiar with sun teams

hushed topaz Apr 5, 2023, 6:16 PM

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Landorus should be a tusk

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And mcy should have roost over focus blast

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Venusaur should be LO or z

golden mural Apr 5, 2023, 6:20 PM

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whats LO

hushed topaz Apr 6, 2023, 1:40 AM

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life orb

feral canopy Apr 6, 2023, 3:16 AM

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golden mural https://pokepast.es/7a88a643cd301a04 any improvemets to be made"

make lando tusk make char y gambit make venu life orb

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make hatt physdef too

prime heron Apr 6, 2023, 3:26 AM

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https://pokepast.es/962df69175a39d79 So i'm trying to make Iron leaves work, thoughts?

celest merlinBOT Apr 6, 2023, 3:27 AM

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New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

proven loom Apr 6, 2023, 5:56 AM

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https://pokepast.es/4f2473cf75dd35bb Rate please I'm quite new lol

obtuse nymph Apr 6, 2023, 7:51 AM

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https://pokepast.es/b86c3d34663d4aec
Would like some rec for latias spread and items and a final pokemon to add - Gen8NatDex
Latias is running
Healing Wish
Draco Met
Defog
Psyshock

pale spear Apr 6, 2023, 9:01 AM

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proven loom https://pokepast.es/4f2473cf75dd35bb Rate please I'm quite new lol

what's the team built around

pale spear Apr 6, 2023, 9:02 AM

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obtuse nymph https://pokepast.es/b86c3d34663d4aec Would like some rec for latias spread and i...

im nr sure what this is for since everything is level 50

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but id recommend using the sample gen 8 rain

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its the most consistent

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rain is a very solved playstyle, the only slot u can maybe change on that team would be the weavile slot

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or maybe u can replace manaphy for a different stallrbeaker

prime heron Apr 6, 2023, 1:38 PM

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prime heron https://pokepast.es/962df69175a39d79 So i'm trying to make Iron leaves work, tho...

So just wanted to reply to this since someone in the discord told me to, not trying to be impatient just wanted to make sure it wasnt overlooked

tranquil sedge Apr 6, 2023, 1:40 PM

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https://pokepast.es/2f5a4739bd11dbb9

celest merlinBOT Apr 6, 2023, 1:40 PM

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New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

tranquil sedge Apr 6, 2023, 1:40 PM

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how do i improve this

obtuse nymph Apr 6, 2023, 4:00 PM

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pale spear im nr sure what this is for since everything is level 50

it was supposed to be 100 but it didnt change i guess, its just Gen 8 rain Nat Dex, do you mind linking me a post for the Sample Gen 8 rain, I havent been able to find one with weavile on it like you mentioned

cobalt skiff Apr 6, 2023, 4:43 PM

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obtuse nymph it was supposed to be 100 but it didnt change i guess, its just Gen 8 rain Nat D...

https://pokepast.es/dfde2e2fb395aeba
This is the sample rain iirc

obtuse nymph Apr 6, 2023, 4:43 PM

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thank you

spare kiln Apr 6, 2023, 6:25 PM

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https://pokepast.es/bebfa37b77724856

hushed topaz Apr 6, 2023, 6:26 PM

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spare kiln https://pokepast.es/bebfa37b77724856

Scarf rotom > defensive
Tusk > garchomp

hushed topaz Apr 6, 2023, 6:51 PM

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Torn > ferrothorn

hushed topaz Apr 6, 2023, 9:57 PM

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It mono loses to Zamazenta he needs to change the mons

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Triple steel ain’t it

bronze oracle Apr 7, 2023, 5:59 AM

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https://pokepast.es/6e6a94d55ab91de9

celest merlinBOT Apr 7, 2023, 5:59 AM

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New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

pale spear Apr 7, 2023, 8:19 AM

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bronze oracle https://pokepast.es/6e6a94d55ab91de9

This looks fine, id just consider boots pex here tho

bronze oracle Apr 7, 2023, 8:36 AM

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pale spear This looks fine, id just consider boots pex here tho

Thanks!

spare kiln Apr 7, 2023, 12:01 PM

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Volc moment but fair enough

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Volc can't check Zam for long

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Tho if you get flame body burns you can lol

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But relying on luck to check a big threat in the tier ain't enough

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https://pokepast.es/4c07755e081669b0

celest merlinBOT Apr 7, 2023, 12:09 PM

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New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

spare kiln Apr 7, 2023, 12:09 PM

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New paste lol

pale spear Apr 7, 2023, 12:12 PM

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spare kiln https://pokepast.es/4c07755e081669b0

i think make the torn here av and make gambit a mlop

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fastest mon torn is not the move

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or maybe u cld just ditch the torn altogether

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keep the gambit and put a lop > the torn

spare kiln Apr 7, 2023, 12:25 PM

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Would Triple Axel fit instead of u turn

bronze oracle Apr 7, 2023, 12:38 PM

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spare kiln Volc moment but fair enough

I'll have to do my best with Toxapex and potentially revenge killing it with Kingambit.

cobalt skiff Apr 7, 2023, 3:57 PM

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https://pokepast.es/ce734f3195338593

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Tera types can be ignored, I'm not gonna use it in battle.

feral canopy Apr 7, 2023, 4:00 PM

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then what r u gonna be use it for if not to battle

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to take pictures with?

cobalt skiff Apr 7, 2023, 4:21 PM

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I'm using the team to duel in a bot named "mewbot" which also uses the same rules, even tho tera is not introduced here. And I'm using showdown to practice

feral canopy Apr 7, 2023, 4:40 PM

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😭 discord bot

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#1024432517077540904

hushed topaz Apr 7, 2023, 5:35 PM

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pale spear fastest mon torn is not the move

Fastest mon torn is fine

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Works for fat structures

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He can just use rotom as speed control here

bronze oracle Apr 7, 2023, 7:31 PM

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Looks more like balance rather than fat

deft sequoia Apr 7, 2023, 8:17 PM

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trying a thing https://pokepast.es/a49207dbc6fefd53

celest merlinBOT Apr 7, 2023, 8:17 PM

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New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

unreal canopy Apr 7, 2023, 8:50 PM

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spare kiln Would Triple Axel fit instead of u turn

If you lack the coverage but generally u turn is better for pivoting out + chipping psychic types safely

unreal canopy Apr 8, 2023, 1:54 AM

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Triple axel’s only use is to KO lando and take 60% chip after KOing garchomp

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 2:26 AM

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spare kiln Would Triple Axel fit instead of u turn

triple axel lopunny is incredibly bad

spare kiln Apr 8, 2023, 2:54 AM

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It also hits great tusk ig

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It's not bad but not reliable

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 3:17 AM

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its bad

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youre doing negative damage to tusk with it

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and you die to any helmet mons including garchomp which teras on your face

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youre also asking to get flame body burnt or static parad

unreal canopy Apr 8, 2023, 4:16 AM

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yall

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check/counter to walking wake

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 4:42 AM

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gking

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 4:55 AM

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unreal canopy check/counter to walking wake

mega venusaur

unreal canopy Apr 8, 2023, 4:58 AM

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hushed topaz mega venusaur

holy shit it lives choice specs draco

tranquil sedge Apr 8, 2023, 1:06 PM

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unreal canopy holy shit it lives choice specs draco

how bout specs

unreal canopy Apr 8, 2023, 1:36 PM

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tranquil sedge how bout specs

???

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 1:48 PM

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tranquil sedge how bout specs

hey buddy let’s try reading that 1 more time

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 1:56 PM

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https://pokepast.es/c8ed51c8a42e10a6 rate my team

celest merlinBOT Apr 8, 2023, 1:56 PM

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New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 1:58 PM

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Looks good but I’d definitely go z zama here

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 1:59 PM

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any reason why

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I like band cs it opens holes for volc more immeadiatly

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 1:59 PM

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It’s generally a better set and fits better

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 2:00 PM

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why does it fit better

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 2:01 PM

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With banded zamazenta you’re triple choice item and that can be easily exploited. Banded zama struggles to break without fsight support, and you are missing a z

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 2:02 PM

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idk if a z is mandatory tbh and I think it breaks fine even without fsight support

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pex gets knocked by vile and can be lured by volc asw

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 2:03 PM

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what do u do against bro and mega venu

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cope?

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 2:03 PM

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bro gets pursuited

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and mega venu gets hit by psychic fangs once

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 2:04 PM

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bro runs body press btw

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And Tera steel/fairy

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 2:05 PM

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lusty basalt and mega venu gets hit by psychic fangs once

Meaning you have to predict it coming in, they can easily go regen mon scout, and then go mega venu

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Z eases your prediction game while also providing a reliable breaker that beats cbs checks

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 2:11 PM

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z still loses to mvenu

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so I dont get that point

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 2:11 PM

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I think +2 z kills

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 2:12 PM

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z what

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 2:12 PM

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Ice

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The good one

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 2:12 PM

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electric is the good one?

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hits pex ghold and torn

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 2:12 PM

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Electric is bad

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 2:12 PM

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what

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what does ice hit

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besides the grounds who get smoked by +1 fang

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 2:13 PM

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torn mega venu landorus tangrowth

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 2:13 PM

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lando dies to fang

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torn to tera elec

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and tang isnt even rlly popular

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with ice youre walled by pex

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 2:14 PM

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Pex isn’t an issue here

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 2:15 PM

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pex is the #1 bulky water in the tier

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 2:16 PM

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If you wanna ignore me and get 6-0d by Tera garg by all means go ahead

tranquil sedge Apr 8, 2023, 2:29 PM

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hushed topaz hey buddy let’s try reading that 1 more time

whoops

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im kinda sleep deprived

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sry

deft sequoia Apr 8, 2023, 2:43 PM

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https://pokepast.es/b64d909138da2e28

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@hushed topaz can u rate this ^ plz and ty

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 2:51 PM

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deft sequoia https://pokepast.es/b64d909138da2e28

make bulky tusk offensive tusk

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make ceruledge gambit

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 2:52 PM

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^

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 2:52 PM

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make hatt ebutton

deft sequoia Apr 8, 2023, 2:52 PM

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so like max atk max spd tusk?

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 2:52 PM

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Yea

deft sequoia Apr 8, 2023, 2:53 PM

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feral canopy make hatt ebutton

i've actually never understood this what does e button give to hatt exactly?

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 2:53 PM

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it gives u a free pivot to ur pursuiter and 21 breakers

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instead of being a slow unsupported wincon

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also remove cm and make it hwish 3a btw, if that wasnt obvious

hushed topaz Apr 8, 2023, 2:53 PM

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If it’s choice locked Lele you can pivot in

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Eject out

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Suit with gambit

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 2:54 PM

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u lead torkoal u go hatt get the pivot go into mon and win

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 2:55 PM

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lusty basalt https://pokepast.es/c8ed51c8a42e10a6 rate my team

the secret to suit + zama

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is mr gambiter

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it is Super Hard to make band vile + band zama work

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but like

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gambiter fits percet here

deft sequoia Apr 8, 2023, 2:55 PM

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could i also replace mystical fire with nuzzle

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 2:55 PM

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deft sequoia could i also replace mystical fire with nuzzle

yes

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wait

deft sequoia Apr 8, 2023, 2:56 PM

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waiting

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 2:56 PM

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i think u replace fairy move here

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idt u need it for much of anything anws

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psychic/shock nuzzle hwish myst

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all the darks either take more / similiarish to myst, or get Nuzzled and be useless anyways

deft sequoia Apr 8, 2023, 3:03 PM

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alrighty

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https://pokepast.es/c144725eec92cd6d anything else

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 3:20 PM

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im ngl bro

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idk what cane hits on wake

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making that like pulse or pump wld be much better imo

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looks fine otherwise 2 me

deft sequoia Apr 8, 2023, 3:21 PM

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feral canopy idk what cane hits on wake

it's the secret rain tech /hj

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 3:22 PM

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🙀🙀🙀

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 3:25 PM

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feral canopy gambiter fits percet here

anything else I shld change

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 3:25 PM

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fuck man

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i rlli like spikes on this build

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wait

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u drop volc for gking

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make ferro physdef

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boom

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idk what u need fini for thou

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im kinda not sold on that spor

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but those 5 outside shld be fine

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 3:26 PM

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wake

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 3:27 PM

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god king

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 3:27 PM

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I also like it as a zama revenger

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altho it doesnt revenge that well

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 3:28 PM

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lol

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i like a revenger in that slot hrm

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can u post those 5 in a paste

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what r we missing out on

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like

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i supposw scarf fini works lol

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oh wait

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wait wait wait wait

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we lose to ape

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and sort of garg

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 3:29 PM

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volc can beat ape

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I think

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 3:29 PM

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sort of.

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 3:29 PM

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garg is annoying tho

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 3:29 PM

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i think ape can be dealable act

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maybe

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we run

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koko last

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boom

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z move him

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zama forces garg to tera

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 3:30 PM

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cm?

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 3:30 PM

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koko bops then

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 3:30 PM

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or just 3a

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 3:30 PM

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i think 3a yeah

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https://pokepast.es/597dcf8da47aaba4

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in

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 3:31 PM

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https://pokepast.es/720f2746a721103e

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yh ig that works asw

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 3:32 PM

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feral canopy https://pokepast.es/597dcf8da47aaba4

any reason why eject on ferro instead of zama

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 3:32 PM

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bc pivot is broken

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 3:32 PM

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I meant lando

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I thought that was the better eject user

feral canopy Apr 8, 2023, 3:34 PM

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lando needs the helm here i am afraid imo

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stuff gets scary when lando is immedietely pivoted out

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u got turn too with lando

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ur not as momentum draining as ferro

lusty basalt Apr 8, 2023, 3:36 PM

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yeah true

spare kiln Apr 8, 2023, 8:09 PM

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https://pastebin.com/vxBbNSWa

Pastebin

Zamazenta @ Choice Band Ability: Dauntless Shield Tera Type: Figh...

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.

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Pokepaste is dead atm

celest merlinBOT Apr 8, 2023, 8:12 PM

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New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

spare kiln Apr 8, 2023, 8:14 PM

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Even tho I kinda know only the first 4 mons are thought out

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 4:13 AM

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@spare kiln scroll up

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unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 4:28 AM

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woah

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 4:54 AM

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bro I love using mega aero

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nothing outspeeds it after a ddance, even scarfed mons

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 5:01 AM

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yeah but unfortunately its walled by half the tier

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and rocks weak at that

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in a prio heavy meta

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 5:01 AM

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I run it with lele and shed tail/screens support

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so it can safely get one or two dragon dances

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I use dual wingbeat + eq as coverage

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and roost to try to stay healthy

hushed topaz Apr 9, 2023, 5:03 AM

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the walled by skarm maero go crazy

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🔥

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 5:04 AM

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hushed topaz the walled by skarm maero go crazy

do ppl even run skarm in natdex OU

hushed topaz Apr 9, 2023, 5:04 AM

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yes

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 5:04 AM

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because corv is just setup fodder it with roost

hushed topaz Apr 9, 2023, 5:05 AM

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not if its bp

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 5:05 AM

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oh

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yeah nvm

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 5:15 AM

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unreal canopy so it can safely get one or two dragon dances

idk infront of what it is getting 1/2 dds

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and u get a shed tail and screens up

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 5:15 AM

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https://pokepast.es/e0ccd1d6ceb1a0a6 rmt

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 5:15 AM

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and dont still get walled

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 5:15 AM

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dusk flare https://pokepast.es/e0ccd1d6ceb1a0a6 rmt

redacted

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 5:15 AM

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LOOOOOOL

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 5:16 AM

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Aight I got up to 1400 with mega aero

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not the best yeha

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pre mid

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im gonna try mega aggron now

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 5:17 AM

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feral canopy and dont still get walled

tbf its low elo

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so ppl dont know what to do after a few dds

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I'm trying to see how far I can get using lower tier megas

spare kiln Apr 9, 2023, 5:47 AM

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feral canopy <@784027503764963348> scroll up

lol how about Tyranitar

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 5:47 AM

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tar also works

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mtar

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i have a sample with him i think

spare kiln Apr 9, 2023, 5:48 AM

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I already had a Gambit team with Zama but I wanted to make a different one

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 5:48 AM

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p

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https://pokepast.es/24759924d5e9c15c

celest merlinBOT Apr 9, 2023, 5:48 AM

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New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 5:48 AM

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this is my sample but

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u can build ur own

spare kiln Apr 9, 2023, 5:55 AM

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Does howl zama work here?

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I'd assume band to be better tho

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 5:58 AM

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feral canopy https://pokepast.es/24759924d5e9c15c

fuck u why ping me

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 5:58 AM

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.

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 5:58 AM

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i am a very busy person.

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what do you want.

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 5:58 AM

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.

spare kiln Apr 9, 2023, 6:00 AM

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lol

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 6:55 AM

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which motherfucker is running mega sableye, clef, skarm, pex, gliscor and chansey

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rn

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and should I run full stall as well

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 8:51 AM

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bro isn't

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he isn't thinking

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he also tricked a choice band onto my ferro LMFAO

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 11:22 AM

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dawg what is this

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raven granite Apr 9, 2023, 1:15 PM

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unreal canopy I run it with lele and shed tail/screens support

Airborne pokemon do not avoid prio in terrain

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 1:16 PM

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raven granite Airborne pokemon do not avoid prio in terrain

I'm away from that now

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;-;

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I don't use M aero anymore

raven granite Apr 9, 2023, 1:16 PM

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Okay

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:25 PM

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https://pastebin.com/eJeLcVdD

Pastebin

NATDEX OU PEAK 1450s - Pastebin.com

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pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:34 PM

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unreal canopy https://pastebin.com/eJeLcVdD

spikes ferro > corviknight, make lando fog, and put future sight > psyshock on ur tapu lele

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:35 PM

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pale spear spikes ferro > corviknight, make lando fog, and put future sight > psyshock on u...

I put psyshock for the occasional chansey

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but ig yeah

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:35 PM

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future sight helps you a lot more because it facilitates your zama much better

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chansey is extrememly rare

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:36 PM

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making corv ferro kinda makes it hard for me to deal with wake now

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:36 PM

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pale spear chansey is extrememly rare

I saw chansey every 3 games in the 1200s

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:37 PM

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Well a lot of shit pops up in the 1200s

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:38 PM

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unreal canopy making corv ferro kinda makes it hard for me to deal with wake now

Isn’t ferro better for ur wake my

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If it’s sub sunny day Ferro can sponge a couple hits from hit

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If it’s specs wake needs to Draco to bust thru u

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*flame

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Which means u can pursuit it with tar

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:39 PM

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oo true

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:43 PM

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pale spear Isn’t ferro better for ur wake my

how does one

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counterplay screens

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:46 PM

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U just gotta

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Play and adapt to the game

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Screens has a lot of potential abusers so the counterplay will vary

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:47 PM

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pale spear Play and adapt to the game

yeah I'm somehow winning against screens

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and shed tail

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;-;

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:47 PM

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And yeah sometimes u will get auto lose matchups with with time you should be able to maximize ur odds

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:47 PM

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unreal canopy yeah I'm somehow winning against screens

That means ur doing fine

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:47 PM

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is my opponent just ass

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or am I good

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:47 PM

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Uhh

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Who knows

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:47 PM

#

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his azu is on 38% so it kills with CC

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his grimm is on 4%

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and his medicham (cooking with an accupuncture + recover set idk what he's cooking) is on 30

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yeah I just killed his entire team with CC :/

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:49 PM

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Yeah most of the time u can try out offense screens

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:50 PM

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what does 1551 mean

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on Glicko-1

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:50 PM

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Since Zama will likely be faster than everything except dd pult who gets pursuitird

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:50 PM

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pale spear Since Zama will likely be faster than everything except dd pult who gets pursuit...

I love zama so much

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:50 PM

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unreal canopy what does 1551 mean

Glicko refers to the elo level u play at, the plus minus refers to the variance

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So for example the glicko here would say u play at the level of a 1526-1576 elo player

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:51 PM

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does that mean I'm ass

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:51 PM

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It isn’t rly that important of a statistic unless u wanna flex lol

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:51 PM

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pale spear It isn’t rly that important of a statistic unless u wanna flex lol

ahh

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:52 PM

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I’d say at least when u start u shouldn’t focus on gxe and glicko

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:52 PM

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pale spear It isn’t rly that important of a statistic unless u wanna flex lol

Yeah

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:52 PM

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Bc ur bound to take losses when u learn the tier

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:52 PM

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i have a 30000 glicky

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glicko

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:52 PM

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Ok Mr crabbed

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Proof.

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:53 PM

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oh no you don't get to be greedy

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:54 PM

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pale spear Since Zama will likely be faster than everything except dd pult who gets pursuit...

bruh zama is fucking amazing

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:54 PM

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Wait @feral canopy do ur country celebrate Easter

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If u do

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Is it Easter Monday for u ass

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Asw

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 2:54 PM

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,

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:55 PM

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No

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 2:55 PM

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if u say yes im going to scream

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:55 PM

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It's still sunday where I'm at

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 2:55 PM

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THANK GOD

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:55 PM

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we are a primarly muslim country

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 2:55 PM

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😭 😭 😭

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:55 PM

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Ok got it

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:55 PM

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so easter sunday is not a holiday

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except for christians

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:55 PM

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Yeah

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See @dusk flare

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:55 PM

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HUHH

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SCARF TERA BLAST CYCLIZAR

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:55 PM

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what

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:55 PM

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THIS IS AMAZING

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feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:56 PM

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see what @pale spear

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:56 PM

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Bro got fucking jumpscared

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When I told him

spare kiln Apr 9, 2023, 2:56 PM

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lol what was that

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:56 PM

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It’s Easter Monday

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 2:56 PM

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bc

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:56 PM

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Not Easter Sunday

spare kiln Apr 9, 2023, 2:56 PM

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A neutral tera blast?

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 2:56 PM

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australia isnt real

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:56 PM

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spare kiln A neutral tera blast?

yes

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without tera

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;-;

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:56 PM

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Local American discovers other countries for the first time

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(Shocking)

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 2:56 PM

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.........

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:57 PM

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dusk flare australia isnt real

aye that's where I'm from

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 2:57 PM

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Sorry

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Ur real

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:57 PM

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unreal canopy aye that's where I'm from

😼

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 2:57 PM

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@pale spear Is not

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:57 PM

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Wow

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:57 PM

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I DID IT

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pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:57 PM

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U rly do put the miss in missler

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:57 PM

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thank you Chris.P.Bacon

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 2:57 PM

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....

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:57 PM

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pale spear U rly do put the miss in missler

LOOOOOOOOOOOL

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:57 PM

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No problem

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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unreal canopy thank you Chris.P.Bacon

No Problem Kooks.

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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pale spear U rly do put the miss in missler

💀

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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feral canopy No Problem Kooks.

wait did you help?

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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Yeah.

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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I forgo 💀

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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LOL

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no

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he didnt.

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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Don’t listen to him

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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hes just trying to be Funny and Quirky

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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unlucky adam :/

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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I taught Chris everything he knows.

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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unlucky adam :/

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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He’s a registered gaslighter

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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.

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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unlucky adam :/

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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On God

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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feral canopy I taught Chris everything he knows.

Mate

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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Okay.

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:58 PM

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Chris.P.Bacon 👍

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:59 PM

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U taught me how to easily lose in bsst

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:59 PM

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.

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dude

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that tier is so bad

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:59 PM

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No

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That tier is fire

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:59 PM

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DPP AG.

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:59 PM

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brick break kingambit new meta??

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 2:59 PM

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When I finally retire from nd

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I’m gonna start up the tier afains

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 2:59 PM

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unreal canopy brick break kingambit new meta??

Low Kick

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:00 PM

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pale spear I’m gonna start up the tier afains

afains?

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what's that

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:00 PM

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feral canopy Low Kick

yeah I expected that

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brick break for screens maybe

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🤔

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 3:00 PM

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dpp ag

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who the fuck

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:00 PM

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I meant again

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Ye

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:00 PM

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slowking pls switch out so I can OHKO with pursuit

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:00 PM

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Dpp ag the Untier

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:00 PM

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YES

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:00 PM

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(Much worse than bsst)

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:02 PM

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dusk flare who the fuck

???

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me and nineveh

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and highlord

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and um

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 3:02 PM

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???????

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:02 PM

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i forgot who else

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 3:02 PM

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real people

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:02 PM

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some banned deucer who i found in agroon

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yes

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:02 PM

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I think

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:02 PM

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they are real people.

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:02 PM

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Seldanna or whoever

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Plays that tier

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:02 PM

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oh yeah seldanna too

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goat

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:02 PM

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And nobody else

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:02 PM

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if they suspect and ban zama I'm gonna cry

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:02 PM

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unreal canopy if they suspect and ban zama I'm gonna cry

It’s ok

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It just dodged a ban

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:03 PM

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oh yooo sick

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:04 PM

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pale spear And nobody else

and mw

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:04 PM

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No

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Not u

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Bringing cheese doesn’t count

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:04 PM

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yes me

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i fwrmed u

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:04 PM

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As playing the tier

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:04 PM

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CHEESE?

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:04 PM

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Bro

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:04 PM

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it was 2 darkrais

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:04 PM

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U brought

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 3:04 PM

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LMFAOO

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:04 PM

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its ag

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:04 PM

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Raispam

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:04 PM

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dude

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DUD

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i have a team with

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:05 PM

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That’s so sad

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:05 PM

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4 darkrais

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 3:05 PM

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,

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:05 PM

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Yeah

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:05 PM

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thats raispam

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:05 PM

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That’s even sadder

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 3:05 PM

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u need to stop

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:05 PM

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i have a team with

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5 ekillwrs

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:05 PM

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💀

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:05 PM

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LOL

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2 rais is not raispam

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dont be a BITCHHHH

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 3:05 PM

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yes it is

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more than 1

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:05 PM

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Yes it is

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 3:05 PM

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raispam

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nooberton

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:05 PM

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It’s like

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Having more than 1 ghost makes it ghostspam

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 3:05 PM

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literally

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he cant grasp that concept however

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:06 PM

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ok but thats in a tier with no species clause noob

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:06 PM

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jesus christ 1922 elo

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how many people play natdex

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:06 PM

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Nobody

feral canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:06 PM

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a lot

pale spear Apr 9, 2023, 3:06 PM

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It’s a dead tier

dusk flare Apr 9, 2023, 3:06 PM

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make up ur minds

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is it dead or not.

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:06 PM

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why is there 1922 elo

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jesus christ

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also

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THE LAST THREE GAMES

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HAVE BEEN ME KILLING MY OPPONENTS LEAD MON

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AND THEM FORFEITING

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freelo BUT CMOMN MAN

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I ONLY KILLED YOUR DNITE IT ISNT THE END OF THE WORLD

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:27 PM

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wait

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yall

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should I run modest on scarf lele to ensure the 2hko on gambit (I've been fucked with the second moonblast being a lower roll)

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or should I run timid on scarf lele to outspeed dnite after a single ddance

dusky carbon Apr 9, 2023, 3:35 PM

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mo

spare kiln Apr 9, 2023, 3:42 PM

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unreal canopy unlucky adam :/

Adem*

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Oh nvm smh his name here is adam

unreal canopy Apr 9, 2023, 3:44 PM

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gawdayum

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approaching 1500 elo

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rn

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one more win

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and then I'll head off to sleep

lusty basalt Apr 9, 2023, 9:06 PM

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https://pokepast.es/9493b50fb7f41fb9

celest merlinBOT Apr 9, 2023, 9:06 PM

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New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @dusk flare. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

hushed topaz Apr 9, 2023, 9:07 PM

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Iron Valiant @ Choice Specs
Ability: Quark Drive
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Fairy
Timid Nature

Moonblast
Focus Blast
Thunderbolt
Psyshock

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what do you do vs this mon

lusty basalt Apr 9, 2023, 9:08 PM

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revenge w lop or fini ig

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cld make ferro chople

hushed topaz Apr 9, 2023, 9:18 PM

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lop and fini cant revenge

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its speed boosted by quark

lusty basalt Apr 9, 2023, 9:43 PM

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fini removes terrain and the boost

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I think chople ferro is the move tho cs it also helps with lop

unreal canopy Apr 10, 2023, 2:41 AM

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POKEPASTE IS UP LOL

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YOO

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wait no its still down

unreal canopy Apr 10, 2023, 3:43 AM

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https://pokepast.es/45874a5e47316140

celest merlinBOT Apr 10, 2023, 3:43 AM

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New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

thorny perch Apr 10, 2023, 2:24 PM

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https://pokepast.es/06673e179deaaab5 first natdex attempt

celest merlinBOT Apr 10, 2023, 2:24 PM

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New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

limber crypt Apr 10, 2023, 3:38 PM

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This looks fine

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Its not necessary but u can consider fsight > hp fire on lele

thorny perch Apr 10, 2023, 4:13 PM

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limber crypt Its not necessary but u can consider fsight > hp fire on lele

Oh that was accidental

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I meant to make it future sight

ornate marten Apr 10, 2023, 5:12 PM

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Heres my half-horrendeus Nat ou team

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:13 PM

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ok i was gna be mean but i choose not to

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what did u build this around

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bc half of these mons suck balls

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and non of these work together

ornate marten Apr 10, 2023, 5:14 PM

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Yeah i know

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I actually put some random crap together

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:14 PM

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yeah that wont cut it

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look at the vr and some@of the samples

ornate marten Apr 10, 2023, 5:14 PM

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And changed things because people were countering them

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:14 PM

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get a rough idea of what teams@ look like

ornate marten Apr 10, 2023, 5:16 PM

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feral canopy get a rough idea of what teams@ look like

Isnt it like, hyper offense, stall or balanced or some shit like that

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:17 PM

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full stall doesnt really exist

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but those are playstyles yes

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their names arent important tho

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ho offense bo balance fat semistall

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etc etc

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how those teams play is important tho

ornate marten Apr 10, 2023, 5:18 PM

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Idk if i want too much but can you insult my pokemon seperetaly so i can understand whats wrong?

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@feral canopy

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:19 PM

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oh

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wow

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Gladly

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mgarde is shit use lele its mgarde but can hold an item

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uturn fog lando is like double utility on everything else, it tries to do everything but does nothing

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and unless ur offensive u shld be physdef 99% of the time

ornate marten Apr 10, 2023, 5:20 PM

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feral canopy and unless ur offensive u shld be physdef 99% of the time

Yeah but the special attackers really kick my ass so i put blissey there

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:20 PM

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detect sucks on ferro (tect is better) but also ferro is strapped for slots and wasting one on tect is bad, running hazardless ferro is also a waste of one of the best spikers in the tirr

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tect on pex is worse bunker but even that is a bit bleh in our meta, but maybe worth, but pex itself had no place in this team with both ferro and lando already

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also max spat pex is ???

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glimm is garbage

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we have steel types in our tier

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blissey sucks balls

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especially this set

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bc this is the first blissey walled by specs dragapult

ornate marten Apr 10, 2023, 5:23 PM

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feral canopy mgarde is shit use lele its mgarde but can hold an item

So you are the 3rd person said this but definetely mgarde feels more versitale and hits harder also is faster

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:23 PM

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it doesnt hit harder

ornate marten Apr 10, 2023, 5:23 PM

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It does

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:23 PM

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only on its fairy stab

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but now we have tera

ornate marten Apr 10, 2023, 5:23 PM

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I mean hypervoice

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Yea

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:24 PM

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we have tera now

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also we gave

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choice specs

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or boosting items in general

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so thats also negated

ornate marten Apr 10, 2023, 5:24 PM

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Choice specs has a downside

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While hypervoice pixelate doesnt

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:24 PM

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run a different boosting item then

ornate marten Apr 10, 2023, 5:25 PM

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Also about tera if you tera lele you cant tera something else like anything else

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:25 PM

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if u use mgarde u cant use a different mega

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also u hit harder on the psychic end

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unboosted

ornate marten Apr 10, 2023, 5:26 PM

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What mega i can use on the tier then?

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Mega beedrill?

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:26 PM

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u really like ur bad megas

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😭

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come on

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give it another try

ornate marten Apr 10, 2023, 5:26 PM

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No idea

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Mega scizor?

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:27 PM

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yes!

raven granite Apr 10, 2023, 5:27 PM

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Did you actually check the viability rankings btw

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:27 PM

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mega scizor is good

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very good

raven granite Apr 10, 2023, 5:27 PM

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As they asked

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:27 PM

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i would not recommend it with lele though

ornate marten Apr 10, 2023, 5:27 PM

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However i dont want to use scizor

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Actually wait a second

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Isnt Mgarde uu?

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:28 PM

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probably

ornate marten Apr 10, 2023, 5:28 PM

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Im switching tiers then

feral canopy Apr 10, 2023, 5:28 PM

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good luck

ornate marten Apr 10, 2023, 6:01 PM

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So after learning that Nat UU is not exactly the most popular tier

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Uh

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What do you think about this? @feral canopy

stable storm Apr 10, 2023, 10:00 PM

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https://pokepast.es/8acfe9644d516f90 national dex ou help

celest merlinBOT Apr 10, 2023, 10:00 PM

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New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

stable storm Apr 10, 2023, 10:01 PM

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hello sir

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how r u

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im looking for any advice

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im not really a national dex person I do national dex uu mostly i jjust decided to join the tournament

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okay

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ill be here just lmk

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https://pokepast.es/3daba028fa227b79 using this team won first match of tournament random team I found on my showdown def didnt make it

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lost in the semi final rip

fringe skiff Apr 11, 2023, 11:45 AM

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https://pokepast.es/922c6984d25fcc77 what do i add on the last slot and how can I improve my team?

celest merlinBOT Apr 11, 2023, 11:45 AM

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New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

feral canopy Apr 11, 2023, 12:17 PM

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holy

viscid seal Apr 11, 2023, 3:04 PM

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Snow team with Aurorus, a sandslash, Mr rime, coalossal, arctozolt and glimmora

agile glade Apr 11, 2023, 7:20 PM

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https://pokepast.es/39d4634283cdf186

SS OU player returning after 6 months. First time building NatDex. This good?

cobalt skiff Apr 12, 2023, 12:17 AM

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https://pokepast.es/b9971a87b016a63d building for this format is hawwwwd

celest merlinBOT Apr 12, 2023, 12:17 AM

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New NatDex OU RMT @limber crypt, @ember hollow, @pale spear, @cobalt skiff, @dusk flare. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

cobalt skiff Apr 12, 2023, 12:38 AM

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sad_dawn

pale spear Apr 12, 2023, 12:57 AM

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cobalt skiff https://pokepast.es/b9971a87b016a63d building for this format is hawwwwd

put boots on the pex and a defog torn over the kart

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also use the smogon sample sets for lele and sciz bc u have slightly suboptimal moves for the former and evs for thel latter

cobalt skiff Apr 12, 2023, 1:01 AM

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https://pokepast.es/f83f9a3efc66a7f1

pale spear Apr 12, 2023, 1:02 AM

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ye this looks solid

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u could still keep cc on sciz if u want

cobalt skiff Apr 12, 2023, 1:08 AM

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Damn I just lost to an enemy mega scizor

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Might slot in heatwave on tornadus

agile glade Apr 12, 2023, 2:14 AM

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cobalt skiff Damn I just lost to an enemy mega scizor

Wait is that me

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https://pokepast.es/39d4634283cdf186

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Raters please also rate this, thank you!

ornate marten Apr 12, 2023, 4:49 AM

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Okay so after 2 days, i've come up with this and it carried me to 1300(i know its not high or something its just my highest ever)

feral canopy Apr 12, 2023, 5:12 AM

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holy

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did u think thru ur choices when building

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bc literally half of these dont make sense

ornate marten Apr 12, 2023, 5:13 AM

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Bruh

feral canopy Apr 12, 2023, 5:13 AM

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like logically

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lando is immune to all hazards except for rocks.., why boots when u can put lefties instead and achieve a better outcome

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play rough mega lopunny for....?

ornate marten Apr 12, 2023, 5:13 AM

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Wait really?

feral canopy Apr 12, 2023, 5:13 AM

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ornate marten Wait really?

???

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lando is a flying type

ornate marten Apr 12, 2023, 5:13 AM

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I didnt know that

feral canopy Apr 12, 2023, 5:14 AM

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@@

ornate marten Apr 12, 2023, 5:14 AM

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feral canopy play rough mega lopunny for....?

No idea

feral canopy Apr 12, 2023, 5:14 AM

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x scissor kingambit for....?

ornate marten Apr 12, 2023, 5:14 AM

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Just there

feral canopy Apr 12, 2023, 5:14 AM

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ornate marten No idea

yeah thought so

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use the samples

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play the tier more

ornate marten Apr 12, 2023, 5:14 AM

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feral canopy x scissor kingambit for....?

Didnt know what to put there

feral canopy Apr 12, 2023, 5:14 AM

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u cant build a team@by slapping random moves on with no thought put into them

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no point fixing all the movesets and the overall team if u dont understand how they work

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i think theres a ho on samples u can try if that was ur goal

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if not there are a lot of similiar playing bos

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