#NatDex OU Rates

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willow topaz
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it lets victini stay in vs landot

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if it doesnt ohko it dies to eq

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and i cant go landot risking a toxic

raven granite
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Why does it need to stay in vs lando tho

willow topaz
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well preferably not

willow topaz
raven granite
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Thats not a good reason

willow topaz
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ive ohkoed tons of landots with that set and it won me games lol

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what should i use over specs then

raven granite
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You can prolly just go for the standard pivot set

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Oh wait this is gen 8

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I mean I would still reccomend the standard pivot set

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What do the lando evs do btw

willow topaz
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7.5% ohko

raven granite
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I mean you have a fini

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If gren is a teams primary source of offense then you should make an effort to keep fini alive

willow topaz
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could be useful in endgames

raven granite
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If it isn't then lando is answering other things anyways

willow topaz
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dont see why i need the extra phys bulk

raven granite
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So its probably not gonna be at full

willow topaz
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its just a mixed defensive set with living hydro pump as a bonus

raven granite
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I mean why tho

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Like even if lets say gren manages to apply enough pressure that fini goes down

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Well that means gren is evolved now

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If you mean protgren then it a: has a good chance to not even have pump

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b: will probably not be exactly trigger-happy with spamming pump/vortex if fini is alive and not chipped into z range

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c: could hydro vortex

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And d: also probably has other teammates you likely want lando to answer

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Reminder this is your sole ground immune

dusk flare
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this looks like that one offense that [redacted] made

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i think it had this similar structure but w diff spreads and sets

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just boots pivot tini > specs (dk why thats here), brick break maw > sucker punch, and should be fine

tribal lantern
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alright ty

rich turret
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azure blade
dusk flare
azure blade
worn sable
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real it has no move options

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but having 2 nukes is sm fun

dusk flare
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otherwise should be fine, can play around with the washtom set n other stuff but idt much else needs changing

azure blade
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alr tysm !

dusk flare
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np

rich turret
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@celest merlin please

raven granite
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chatot isn't a user

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its a bot

rich turret
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ye k

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ik

rich turret
raven granite
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its based on when the last person said it

rich turret
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oh

raven granite
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and you've posted like

rich turret
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i thought it was user based

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h

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mb

feral canopy
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make tusk to ting lu

rich turret
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feral canopy
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should be physdef ferro

midnight vault
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hey i want my team rated for natdex ou draft league

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Bill Cosby (Tapu Lele) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Psychic Surge
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Psychic
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Moonblast
  • Psychic
  • Shadow Ball
  • Thunderbolt

Throat Goat (Dondozo) @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Impish Nature

  • Liquidation
  • Earthquake
  • Rest
  • Curse

FAT Klansman (Abomasnow-Mega) @ Abomasite
Ability: Snow Warning
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Blizzard
  • Aurora Veil
  • Giga Drain
  • Earth Power

R.Kelly P (Hawlucha) @ Psychic Seed
Ability: Unburden
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

  • Acrobatics
  • Close Combat
  • Swords Dance
  • Thunder Punch

Jet Fuel (Iron Moth) @ Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Fiery Dance
  • Sludge Wave
  • Energy Ball
  • Dazzling Gleam

Arctozolt @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Slush Rush
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature

  • Substitute
  • Bolt Beak
  • Blizzard
  • Low Kick
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apologize about the nicknames we are quite toxic

green notch
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green notch
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idk if MObama is viable in NDOU rn, but let's wait for the raters.

midnight vault
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hes just a setter i have baxcalibur and arctozolt so its my snow setter

green notch
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Yeah but let's wait for the raters cuz I am not playin Gen 9 ND much

raven granite
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its not good

green notch
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Maybe hail

limber crypt
raven granite
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mabomasnow that is

green notch
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lmfao most of the raters are here

raven granite
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if you want snow you use slowking or atales

raven granite
midnight vault
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we are in a draft league i use what i could draft in a snake format

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yea

limber crypt
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either way this team looks all over the place; aboma is unviable and idt zolt rly fits with the rest of the teamanyway, same with dondozo

midnight vault
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16 teams

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12 pokemon each

limber crypt
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i’ll see if hidin can make smth of this but i will recommend a sample in the meantime

raven granite
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i mean theres no draft samples

limber crypt
raven granite
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yeah

midnight vault
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i appreciate it

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my reserve list is pincurchin, regileiki, great tusk, baxcalibur ,scream tail, and killowattrel and i usually pick between ice set or electric terrain set depending on my matchup

green notch
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@cobalt skiff ig he needs tusk here ngl. I mean, only MAboma and artcozolt was his electric immune. And arctozolt needs to be always healthy.. Idk just a suggestion

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Since he can use tusk here

green notch
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Also he doesn't have any hazard removal when he hab MAboma so tusk rlly fits here

raven granite
green notch
green notch
raven granite
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Oh

worn bronze
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Espathra getting

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Suspected rip

rich turret
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rich turret
cobalt skiff
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@viscid widget

viscid widget
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ah thank you

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Gimme 10 minutes

limber crypt
# rich turret sun

Sun is usually not built like this, its moreso about letting zardy and tusk in to break as much as possible, and its not like maw and torkoal are really able to replicate that

viscid widget
limber crypt
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that being said i would do zardy > mmaw, utility kart > tork, venu > blace, and fini > clef

viscid widget
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e

limber crypt
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Not u, for onslaught’s team

rich turret
limber crypt
viscid widget
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Mmm okk

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weavile instead of ttar?

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Final Version (?)

raven granite
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Methinks you go rocks>spin on tusk

rich turret
limber crypt
rich turret
rich turret
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rich turret
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Prob your rng

raven granite
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soft orchid
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What are good teammates for c-specs greninja?

raven granite
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limber crypt
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Ik making another espa cyc koko ho aint exactly fresh but espathra genuinely only fits on screens

gilded brook
raven granite
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lets you hit fb more

gilded brook
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o

gilded brook
gilded brook
raven granite
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esp should be bold

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and make sure val is timid

raven granite
rich turret
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Thats very

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Specific

limber crypt
# gilded brook wide lens valiant?

oops i meang wise glasses; in general valiant on terrain teams like this doesnt have great item choice so wise glasses or fairium is preferred

gilded brook
limber crypt
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clay def

gilded brook
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also none of the current mons have piority

limber crypt
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prio isnt rly an issue and honestly atm these ho teams are just not running rocks

silk sluice
silk sluice
willow topaz
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slowking?

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actually washtom

raven granite
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gilded brook
limber crypt
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hm

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Id probably do tornt > tran or kingambit, preferably the latter

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as for sets
sciz should be roost > cc and tomb > uturn, with 248 hp 40 atk 220 speed adamant
Tran could be rocks which lets chomp run spikes sd eq outrage @ dragonium
Cyclizar can probs be boots or sitrus

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But honestly cyclizar doesnt fit here either, id go with smth fast like cb zamazenta instead

soft orchid
hard creek
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team is incomplete

raven granite
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Methinks they are making a joke

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If not then gren would much prefer spikes

stoic lotus
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stoic lotus
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i have no idea, i just asked because i'm new to teambuilding and wanted some feedback

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probably shouldve mentioned that beforehand

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okay

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ty

orchid moat
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I figured

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I thought Greninja mirror herb sounded cool

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Give it tera flying acrobatics

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But then I lost it from there

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Gotcha

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Cause i have a tendency to try to prepare for as many scenarios as possible when building a team

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Main thing I do is have two bulk mons that cover both attack stats

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But I’m pretty sure that holds back certain teams

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How’s this?

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Whoops

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Hm

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Ok

soft orchid
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https://pokepast.es/dcea2e0c89f80727 I've built a gen 8 rain team by some advice. everyone except weavile benefits from the rain weavile is there for a bit of coverage for some mons I found that my team struggles against.

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Superpower on swamp may be nice however if weavile is down I may need some coverage with Ice moves

raven granite
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Don't let weavile get down

soft orchid
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I do however it isn't always granted that it will survive.

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Also I did Koko > zapdos to provide electric terrain with STAB with life Orb and rain making it never miss does a lot more damage against other mons a and its faster than zapdos

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Actually I did the math a Hydro Pump boosted with specs and rain ko's unless if it's sash

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Most of the time

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Greninja with a boosted specs and rain Hydro Pump kills kartana in one shot

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Most of the time

dusk flare
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so

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it probably gets ohkoed anyways lol

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quartz cloak
dusk flare
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?

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oh

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this team has some mismatched sets it seems, and mons like deod and bulky lando dont fit on the teamstyle it looks like u were going for

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you could very easily just make this ho with sub + ghost z pult, iron valiant, espathra, koko, dnite, and cyclizar over the current squad

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pawmot isnt really the best pick rn, deod is just not good bc it struggles to rly avoid being pressured into using up recovers + passive, and the other mons just dont have viable sets (e.g. sash fog kart isnt good, fog rocks lando is counterintuitive and compresses too many roles)

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@quartz cloak

rich turret
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glacial leaf
willow topaz
limber crypt
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glacial leaf
glacial leaf
limber crypt
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wdym rotators

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Like uturn/volt switch users?

glacial leaf
# limber crypt wdym rotators

So I'm in this 'challenge' where I can have 8 mons pre-set and I can pick 6 out of those 8 mons for all of my matches

glacial leaf
limber crypt
glacial leaf
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night kiln
night kiln
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I guess there's no one here

woeful stump
dusk flare
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anw ill be rating the dnite team

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wouldnt recommend cyclizar/espathra on a team like this, they rly lack synergy w the rest of the team dramatically and only rly fit on ho (more so espathra)

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the skeledirge and pex sets also need slight adjustments, no slack off + spdef + no hdb skeledirge is quite bad, as you dont check physical attackers nearly as well

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Ability: Unaware  
Tera Type: Water  
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD  
Bold Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Torch Song  
- Will-O-Wisp  
- Hex  
- Slack Off```
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this should be the set, the tera type can be fairy or water

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or even dark for espathra but in that case clodsire would be a better choice

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toxapex should have haze somewhere in there, its what lets it beat setup sweepers like volcarona in conjunction with toxic

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so use that over toxic spikes

night kiln
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Thanks

dusk flare
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i would recommend replacing cycilzar with great tusk as well, and replace espathra with a steel type like kingambit

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and make the charizard spread max speed

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and not max hp

night kiln
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Gonna edit it and show you

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Should I get Clefable?

dusk flare
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n u dont need clefable

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clefable isnt actually good rn

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falters to a lot of common wallbreakers it would check like zama and dnite because of its insane lack of bulk + recovery nerfs forcing it to use bad soft boiled or wish (which mandates protect to safely get the wish off, making it passive)

night kiln
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OK
Do I need to have Unaware on Clodsire?

dusk flare
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yes

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water absorb doesnt handle the threats it would take on well (e.g. volcarona can brute force it, espathra can just boost forever with tera steel)

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there are other ways to beat rain

night kiln
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Yeah, like Zard

dusk flare
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well zard isnt too good at beating rain

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it cant exactly switch in too well and loses to all their sweepers / breakers

night kiln
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MCY has Drought

dusk flare
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it does but they still do insane damage to it

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its not that bulky

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  • barra/floatzel are much faster
night kiln
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Then should I use another Mon instead of it?

dusk flare
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which team are you looking at

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anw no dont replace zardy imo

night kiln
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Yes, this one

dusk flare
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u can keep zard yes

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dnite handles rain fine

night kiln
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So which Pokémon I should replace? Espathra and Cyclizar?

dusk flare
night kiln
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Thanks

dusk flare
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mhm!

night kiln
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I will show you my edit

dusk flare
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okay

night kiln
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To make sure the moves are good

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dusk flare
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make zard timid and 252 speed and i think this is probably ok

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maybe

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hm.

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i feel like theres something im missing

raven granite
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Spin + rocks tusk kinda bad

dusk flare
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YEA that

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hmmm

raven granite
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And gambit prolly wants some speed too

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And the pex still does not have haze

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And tera poison pex

dusk flare
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ok guys hear me out. rocks kingambit.

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just like 4a but like rocks > pursuit

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👍🏿

raven granite
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And ice spinner on tusk > rocks

night kiln
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I gave Tera Poison to Pex because of Black Sludge

dusk flare
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leftovers

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u can just use that

night kiln
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True

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So I give her Tera Steel?

dusk flare
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dragon

night kiln
dusk flare
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lets you obtain an electric resist and keep your fire resistance + remove ground weakness for tusk

raven granite
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And sulo said rocks over pursuit already

dusk flare
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well

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its sd

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but yea

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rocks over sd

raven granite
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I forgor how much speed gambit runs

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I wanna say like 144

dusk flare
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140

night kiln
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I give it Pursuit?

dusk flare
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n

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stealth rocks

night kiln
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How should the spread be exactly? I know 252 Spe but what about the rest?

dusk flare
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nah it should be 140 speed

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outspeeds skeledirge

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rest in hp and max attack

raven granite
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140 speed max attack and the rest goes into hp

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Ye

night kiln
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I remove 252 from HP?

dusk flare
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yes

raven granite
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Well

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You'll be relocating the extra evs there but yeah

night kiln
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Thanks

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This is my team now

dusk flare
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make sure the kingambit spread is correct (252 Atk / 140 Spe / rest in hp)

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otherwise this is probs fine imo

night kiln
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140? OK thanks!

dusk flare
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mhm

night kiln
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So 116 HP/252 Att/140 Spe

pale spear
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I made this shit first

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Rocks knock suit filler

dusk flare
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idc

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ur bad

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so it doesnt matter

night kiln
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Thanks @dusk flare I did as you said

dusk flare
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mhm

rich turret
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rich turret
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So just no quaq

limber crypt
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Yeah

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rich turret
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First time making one

trim glen
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Any moveset suggestions for this team?

IMG_1022.png
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I’m kinda new to comp, what does HO mean?

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Okay thanks

livid dust
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how's this team? Ive played a few games and everyone feels pretty good except for gholdengo, I feel like he's not doing anything every game

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Im wondering If I should switch him out for someone else

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also I'm pretty new to gen 9 so tera types aren't my strong suit

graceful steppe
livid dust
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good idea

raven granite
raven granite
# livid dust

a lot of these are suboptimal picks, skele would much rather run a physdef spread and sunny day rillaboom is very weird, i assume it was meant to be swords dance but rilla itself is also quite bad, scarf tusk is bad and so is lo gholdengo (who often prefers bulkier spreads rn and doesn't like life orb cutting into it's hp.) i'd reccomend checking out the team bazaar to see what people have been having success with

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raven granite
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livid dust
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@raven granite okay thanks for the advice 👍

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rain team

limber crypt
elder sand
limber crypt
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sr waterfall eq flip turn

cobalt skiff
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On Mpert is Liquidation eq darkest lariat and flip turn

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Is that a decent set

dusk flare
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it is not sadly

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darkest lariat doesnt hit anything for good damage (slowbro eats it for breakfast)

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the set sol recommended is fine

cobalt skiff
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Why run waterfall tho

dusk flare
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flinch

cobalt skiff
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Ig that makes sense

raven granite
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The flinch chance just offers more positives than the slightly higher bp and def drop

dusk flare
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it has the bulk to stay in on some mons and fish for flinches

cobalt skiff
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Would instead of darkest lariat bulk up work

dusk flare
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no, mpert is not the kind of mon that wants to waste rain turns setting up (nor does rain as a whole want to waste turns doing that)

cobalt skiff
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Is this a decent team

raven granite
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Ho usually is built very differently than this

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Trailblaze isn't rly necessary on msciz and hatt and cyc kinda just aren't good

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Not cyc

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Cyc is good

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Meant qua

cobalt skiff
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I won 3 games in a row with qua

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I'm in the mid 1300s

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Where do I post replays?

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random finch
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this is my nat dex ou team

cobalt skiff
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@random finch

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oh nvm you found it already lol

random finch
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ye

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you can check it

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@cobalt skiff

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any thing

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on my team

random finch
random finch
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hey with choice specs there

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is no use

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of u turn

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ok

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ok

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but

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but

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wheres the set up

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i can use stored power

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with

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cosmic power

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subsitute

raven granite
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You don't need that

random finch
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meaning

raven granite
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Thats a massive fish and not very effective

random finch
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?

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ok

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so wut should i change on ttry

raven granite
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P sure hidin already said to make it standard mtar set

random finch
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ok

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gaunt cipher
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https://pokepast.es/ae56d3be979703d9

Been trying this in Natdex OU

Volcarona baits and kills Heatran, and also sets up on Volt Switchers with Tera Ground

Rillaboom gives terrain support and standard hijinks, Z only because it has passive regen naturally and everything else is holding another item

Tusk is a bulky body press sweeper, hazard and item remover, and general physical wall enhanced by Grassy Terrain

Scizor is the mega slot, good bulky pivot and cleanup

Kyurem is a new set I'm trying (old set is same spread but Calm with Freeze dry, sub, roost, and earth power)

Hatterene is hazard/status relfector and potential wincon

example of it in action: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldex-1800033275-fauu2l0ikyi89479c1r5qddqba3kmkdpw

Anything I can improve? I feel like Scizor could be the one to replace

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pale spear
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And check set comp for sets

gaunt cipher
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Cinderace is walled by Heatran

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pale spear
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the rest shld be fin

elder sand
random finch
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Hey

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Could anyone

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Give me advice on my team

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bold owl
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Imagine the defensive capabilities for hisuian Sliggo with evolite , not really any good moves though

random finch
raven granite
# random finch https://pokepast.es/239a17e7a6d38426

Unfortunately the sets and pokemon here are all really bad, mega swampert is the only really good thing here and this isn't how you go about building rain. I would reccomend checking out the team bazaar and seeing what people are using and seeing success with

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And kowtow cleave

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Please don’t mind spelling auto correct messes thing up

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And that you should put supreme overlord and bring it in the last or second last

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Put nasty plot on Gholdengo

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Replace it with Focus Blast

worn sable
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doesnt need nasty plot with scarf

dusk flare
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n

random finch
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He will trick first turn

dusk flare
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nasty plot on scarf is fine

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well

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u dont trick first turn

random finch
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To replace

dusk flare
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but yea eventually u give ur scarf away

random finch
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Ye

dusk flare
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anyways quaquaval isnt rly good, and id recommend replacing gholdengo and great tusk w other mons

random finch
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I think rest is good

worn sable
dusk flare
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well

random finch
dusk flare
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is this like

random finch
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But idk quaxqaval

worn sable
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huh interesting ive never rly thoughtof that

dusk flare
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a different team

worn sable
dusk flare
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ah

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okay

worn sable
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its my team i just made

random finch
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I think

dusk flare
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Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 116 Def / 12 SpA / 128 SpD
Calm Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Make It Rain
- Nasty Plot
- Recover```
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use this gholdengo spread

random finch
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Ye

dusk flare
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i forget about another one which has more speed for smth i cant remember

random finch
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This is Wut I use

dusk flare
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but this spread should be fine and better over ur other one rn

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basically:

  • ohkos torn with make it rain at +2
  • survives 2 heat waves from max hp from offensive torn
worn sable
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interesting

random finch
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Like if they don’t have something like dragapult with choice specs

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It won’t ohko

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That’s Wut I had

worn sable
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thgat was a set from an ou team but iog it doesnt rly translate 100%

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after that, id recommend replacing ferrothorn with gastrodon and mega charizard x with kingambit instead imo; reason for that is wash cant rly check heatran and torn on its own and it majorly needs secondary checks to them. make great tusk a tornadus as well, since u dont rly have a fighting resistance that beats great tusk/lop reliably

random finch
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I think Charizard as a special attacker and mega Charizard y

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Is better because you have

dusk flare
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u can also try defensive washtom and scarf lele instead

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which i think might be better

random finch
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Many physical

random finch
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Usually

dusk flare
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ye scarf lele is pretty good atm

worn sable
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ye i was thinking i was too physical which is why i used specs lele

random finch
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Ye

random finch
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Replace

worn sable
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i wanted a special wall breaker

random finch
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Charizard x with y

dusk flare
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and it should be fine

soft orchid
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With what sets

dusk flare
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this is for finished teams, you cant send unfinished teams here

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tho to give u some help here

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Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 116 Def / 12 SpA / 128 SpD
Calm Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Make It Rain
- Nasty Plot
- Recover```
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this ghold spread should be used (w cloak > lefties if u want)

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and no eq chomp isnt rlly that good, u want ur garchomp to beat heatran and other steels

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Ability: Rough Skin
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 248 HP / 148 Def / 112 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Toxic
- Dragon Tail
- Spikes```
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u can easily use this garchomp spread + moveset

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fairy resist?

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I feel like the team loses to specs iron valiant

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weavile is for nerds

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go m scizor

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ooh crap I didnt realise there were only 4 mons

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sorry

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I mean true ig

soft orchid
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But thank you

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How's the team now?

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Still feel the need for some advice

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Gar is Tera water, valiant is Tera steel and Toxa is Tera Dragon.

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I'm considering corvi instead of torn but I wantvto check in with yall first .

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pursuit doesnt rly work on annihilape fyi

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i think most of the sets here need some changing

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glimmora is solid to start out with but the mon needs actual attacking moves more often than not

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ill grab sets in a sec, doing smth

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Ability: Toxic Debris  
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe  
Naive Nature  
- Stealth Rock  
- Mortal Spin  
- Power Gem  
- Spikes```
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glimmora should use smth like this, caters a lot better to it being a suicide lead in that it can stay alive and annoy foggers pretty easily (namely torn)

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kart and washtom arent bad per se but id def use smth else like iron valiant + koko as both arent rly the best fits for ho atm

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gyara is fine, just replace outrage with eq

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Ability: Defiant  
Tera Type: Water  
EVs: 252 HP / 228 SpD / 28 Spe  
Careful Nature  
- Bulk Up  
- Taunt  
- Rage Fist  
- Drain Punch
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ape should have this spread for the most part

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dusk flare
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pursuit doesnt work on it as its rly weak and you'd much rather be taking advantage of switches w rage fist

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and yea u just gotta keep up pressure

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or preserve glimmora / gyara

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@gritty bane if you're still here

gritty bane
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dont think anything huge would change tbh

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but yea id use iron valiant > kart probably, kart can be a huge momentum sink w the lack of pivoting moves and mons like torn and skeledirge running around, which punish you for using the wrong move entirely

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also replacing wash w koko would enable iron valiant pretty easily

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so id use that as well

gritty bane
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Ability: Electric Surge
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- U-turn
- Taunt```
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use this koko set

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make gyara jolly as well, dont wanna miss out on pult/zama, especially the former

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tusk can probably just be offensive rather than bulky w knock off, smth like bulk up/cc/rapid spin/headlong rush

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rest is fine

hard creek
random finch
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gaunt cipher
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mana can also just be replaced by fog torn and you can run a more offensive set on zap + replace fog on peli for hurricane

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rain is not something you can really make differentiate from the standard structure sadly

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its quite a solved playstyle that can only go so far with creativity

paper notch
pale spear
random finch
dry rivet
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And didn't know what to put 😭

inner ledge
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ok

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wut should i replace

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?

inner ledge
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Donbozo or maybe kingambit

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You can definitely just test many options

spiral pond
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blissey is very mid this gen as well

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kind of a fake answer to a lot of special attackers (specs pult, ghold (even if it uses sball), etc)

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so u can def replace it with another special wall like ting lu instead, which actually serves as a stopgap to those mons and has entry hazards as well

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make it spikes alongside stealth rock heatran

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ferro id probably remove for torn just for entry hazard removal and a ground immune + knock asw, removes boots against clod/gastro and lefties from rotom to make it easier to wear down for heatran

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medi can probably just be wisp pult? im unsure of what to make that slot but it would be good to have something that baits in tran for ting lu, also provides real speed control

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@spiral pond

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soft orchid
# worn light

Also this team has a lot of flaws I can't point them out seen as I'm not a competitive expert but do have some competitive experience (as in I'm a rookie) however from what I can tell you is that those mons are very underwhelming. blaiken is no longer OU to 4 slot syndrome (as a lot of mons do) and to avoid writing an essay in short underwhelming mons bad items choice.

worn light
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Thank you

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I made some changes

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This is my newest version

soft orchid
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Unfortunately this team isn't that good either as charizard y is running rampant great Tusk and Iron Valiant are running massacres around town and rotom can easily Volt Switch Hydro your team to a plum please watch a team building video to actually have some competitive powress. This is tough reality

soft orchid
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But again I'm no competitive genius

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Plop and a few others have a greater hand of knowledge than me

worn light
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Sad :(

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Alright

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Thanks for the advice

soft orchid
hard creek
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spiral pond
heavy quest
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Gen 8 nat dex

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Its been working really well for me so far, and absolutely no one expects the aggron set, free setup and ko on literally any physical attacker

heavy quest
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cant play gen 8 nat dex but same concept right here ^

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dont mind me tryna toxic in misty terrain I forogot that was a thing lol

spiral pond
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I do that sometimes too

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opal rune
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Tried building my first team revolving around Mr. Dondozo Bulkyoffensous, thoughts?

dusk flare
# opal rune https://pokepast.es/c591f037d096460e

torn > tusk, mega lopunny > sciz, make ghold a bulkier set (down below), and make ferro spdef bc dozo kinda just wins vs rain so physdef seems a bit unnecessary. make ferro knock off/thunder wave > body press as well

Ability: Good as Gold  
Tera Type: Normal  
EVs: 252 HP / 40 Def / 12 SpA / 128 SpD / 76 Spe  
Calm Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Nasty Plot  
- Shadow Ball  
- Make It Rain  
- Recover```
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rest is good!

night tendon
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night tendon
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wait but then i wont have a magic bounc e

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or entry hazard

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or hazard control

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oh wait

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ur making my team a rain team arent u

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i dont want a full rain team

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can u help me make a team

raven granite
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skeledirge is alright but not that set

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its best at running defensive sets

heavy quest
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yeah offensive dirge sucks

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like its speed is bad and you become much worse at checking things

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true valiant answers dont rly exist

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and you dont need a setup sweeper

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its just a better overall set

heavy quest
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You have tran and to some extent slowbro

hushed topaz
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Few changes and this can def be workable

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Tera fairy dirge
Wisp torch hex slack

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Scarf kart > bulu

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Make Tran spedef leftovers

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Crunch > play rough on zamazenta

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Landorus leftovers over hdb

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Yeah

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I mean rillaboom

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Grassy surge mons got me mixed up

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Oh and max hp max def on dirge

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With bold nature

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Let me know how it goes

frigid matrix
hushed topaz
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I like the drill sand idea

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It this is not the team I’d run with it

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hard creek
night tendon
inner ledge
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Bros gotta be patient

night tendon
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still nobody rated my team

pale spear
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could be smth else but reuni is the most easy to fit

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bc a standard scald toxic pex is super annoying to switch into

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night tendon
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i remade my natdex team

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@pale spear

limber crypt
inner ledge
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Damn 💀

night tendon
limber crypt
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stealth rock

night tendon
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why would i do that

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wouldnt that be for gastro

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and ttar is setup sweeper thats why it has ddance

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and for lele how am i gonna stop other setups

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but whatever ill do what u say

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hope this is the right thing

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to do

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um but one thing

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who is gonna be my taunt and anti setup sweeper pokemon

night tendon
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alright how about this now

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@limber crypt

limber crypt
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ye this is much better

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imo mtar is far better as a rocker than a dd mon, that way u get the most from its bulk and power, notably letting it actually trap things with pursuit too

night tendon
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but gastrodon has stealth rocks

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so why dont i give it the bulk and power of a rocker build and keep the set

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ho has been hazardless in nd for a while tbf

pale spear
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There’s a lot wrong here

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I’d recommend a sample team

pale spear
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U don’t gain anything from scarf since it’s alr so fast

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Put pursuit on kingambit over brick break, you need it for pult and ghold

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And then change tera types - fairy on lele, poison on gambit and water on Landorus

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Rest is fine, rain might be hard to play but I think playable

pale spear
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There’s a lot of conflicting ideas and not that much to support each one

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O wait sol alr did that

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Shit mb

pale spear
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I think with fightz kart u have enough to break steels

hard creek
pale spear
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The removal is making the opponent defog 👍

heavy quest
pale spear
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Hold on gimme a min

hard creek
pale spear
hard creek
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tho my building skills arent the best ;-;

pale spear
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mayb try slotting it over the vile

hard creek
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ok I got that

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hippo skarm chans molt mtias reun

pale spear
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act maybe u want clef instead of reun

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as a knock sponge

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idk experiment

hard creek
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which clef?

pale spear
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cm clef

hard creek
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ight I put the LO one

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hippo skarm chans molt mtias clef

pale spear
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that looks fine

hard creek
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ok thank u 😄

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tranquil sedge
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look at my basic bitch team

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pretty neat huh

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i tried stall with no knowledge of the tier or how stall works

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is it fixable

pale spear
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Make Corv nasty plot tornt make amoonguss clodsire

hardy gust
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ok

pale spear
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The great tusk slot is completely flexible u can put whatever u want there based on what u struggle with

hardy gust
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bet

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yo anything i need to change in this

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tranquil sedge
limber crypt
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Landorus-Therian @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Impish Nature

  • Earthquake
  • U-turn
  • Toxic
  • Stealth Rock
soft orchid
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Grass know on greninja to punish tapu fini users

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And pretend Thunderbolt is Thunder

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I just realized that now

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Nd 8 ou

limber crypt
night tendon
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if all might was a pokemon it would be palafin

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they both change forms

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palafin changes from wussy to hero

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and all might changes from crack addict to hero

iron summit
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Sometimes matches like these feel so good

raven granite
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dude why are people

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posting mha stuff

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and replays

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in the team rating channel?

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@night tendon @iron summit you know this is a rate my team channel right?

autumn perch
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Hello

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raven granite
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What dark and water types are they struggling with?

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Weavile, for example, is not only slowed down by the webs if it's cb, but even boots sets are revenged by 2 of the pokemon here

limber crypt
timber bison
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might replace clod with a more reliable rocker but idk what else

timber bison
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@limber crypt @ember hollow @pale spear @cobalt skiff

timber bison
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what does 20 speed outrun?

tame adder
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https://pokepast.es/6b6b25f50c2cfb05
Hello gamers yes hi
I like Teleport Future Sight
I like Clefable
I tried to create a team where these two things are the glue as someone very inexperienced with anything after Gen 6. Here is what I've found:

  • Slowking is exceptionally resilient and Futureport remains bloody annoying to face. It can force extremely predictable switches and I've never had an easier time killing Kingambits who were the sole Dark types for their team forced to eat the Future Sight and predicted as a result.
  • Clefable is role compression. She's not quite as exceptional at she was as previously, but she can still do many things for free. For me, I'm using her as a Knock Off, Dragon resist, status sponge, and speed control with Thunder Wave but I may swap that to Rocks in future.

We then proceed with the following:

  • Dragapult was added almost immediately because it's Dragapult and even without Shed Tail spam being everywhere in low-midrank (Infiltrator good), it's so splashable so easily. I will occasionally switch to physical set but with this current team I need the special wallbreak it provides.
  • Heatran is excellent glue. It is my usual use of Tera with Tera Grass Flash Fire on this set making it a very strong pivot. It is currently my Rocker but as time goes on the more I think I should make Clefable my Rocker and use a different move on Heatran, as it is perhaps carrying too many roles it can't fully fulfill at the moment.
  • Zamazenta was added next as the midgame physical breaker/late sweeper for the team with this Electrium-Z set that I personally adore. I can easily adapt how I use this set based on what I'm against - it can punch holes with Z-Electric and its immediate power, or it can stay healthy for a Howl boost into sweeping. Very tanky and surprisingly versatile.
  • Weavile was added last, partly because I pine for the days it was OP and not a pound-shop Chien Pao, and partly because it fulfills 3 roles in one for this team - it is a revenge killer, it is a midgame physical breaker, and it can also be a lategame sweeper. I tend to use Dragapult and Zamazenta to punch holes to allow a Weavile sweep, but the beauty of this trio is that any of the three could potentially take the role of the other.

At the moment, I've a few massive weaknesses on the ladder:

  • If I cannot outpredict a Shed Tail -> Belly Drum Azumarill etc, I just straight up lose because I do not have Unaware or sufficient ways of surviving breaking the Substitute.
  • Rain can occasionally prove a problem if they can weaken Slowking and Heatran-grass early.
  • I've no obvious uses of a mega-evolution that I could add - I tried Sableye but he seemed too passive - have not experimented further.
  • No ground type.
  • No hazard removal - not sure where to fit this in.
  • While it's nice having a few possible wincons, I've no definitive wincon, and can be outpowered.

Happy to take any advice going ❤️

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sloowking is a bit weird, i would at least consider slowbro for the rain matchup but if king is working for u then thats fine

tame adder
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I definitely will take the Landorus suggestion even though I adore Clefable. Solves many issues.
King is slightly preferred for me as a Sp Def slow Futureport but Brother can also work for sure chickenparteh

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sacred ember
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Char Y seems to be a bit of an issue so I have to play careful

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Oh wait

pale spear
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this is not a national dex team

sacred ember
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damn wrong channel

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💀

tranquil sedge
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also medi deals shitloads of dmg under webs

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hoopa is kinda bad tho

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autumn perch
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Baxcalibur and arctrozolt mu looks shit

limber crypt
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vs bax and zolt u can just win but not teraing dirge

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would keep in mind that stall aint too viable tho

autumn perch
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Dhengo

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And pult

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Mu

autumn perch
autumn perch
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Why not iron def corvi

ashen palm
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NatDex team comprised of all my fav pokemon <3, solid or nah

please dont tell me to add a u-turn pelipper to my team

ashen palm
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i didnt know that would be better, yeh i'll do it

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nvm got it

dusk flare
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even if its shadow ball ghold sits on you for days

dusk flare
autumn perch
raven granite
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If you don't want to build rain then you'd need to drop gengar mimikyu metagross and mpert, mpert because it only fits on rain and the former 3 as they are all terrible pokemon

ashen palm
raven granite
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Mimikyu is too weak metagross is reliant on getting hit with a se move to deal meaningful damage (and wp meta is usually what ppl expect if not cb) and gengar is too easily revenge killed and pursuit trapped

ashen palm
raven granite
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Dbond doesn't have priority

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So weavile clicks pursuit for free anyways

ashen palm
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tbf im making a team with pokemon that i actually like its not a copy and paste stall with pokemon that are overused

raven granite
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Why are you asking for help in the competitively minded server then

ashen palm
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gengars pretty fast and i would switch to corviknight if they happen to be faster

raven granite
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You are still pursuit trapped by vile very easily

ashen palm
raven granite
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.

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In #1051236342740308089 ?????

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Its not #show-off-my-team lmao

ashen palm
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i mean yeh....rate my team also doesnt mean im automatically asking for help, i asked if it was solid

raven granite
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Its not

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limber crypt
# autumn perch Blissey is for

Bliss and chans both lose to dengo, and given that u should try to remove/prevent hazards with stall, chansey is an overall better choice

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Team looks weak to dhengo

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glisc should handle it, if u hate yhe mu thag much u can try tera water difge too

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looks fine otherwise

stoic anchor
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ive tried building around reuniclus

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alr then thanks i was really confused on which of these to use aswell on the set for gliscor

spiral pond
raven granite
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wouldnt reccomend bib or lo serp or zygarde

spiral pond
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Did I click lorb that's supposed to be lefties

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opinions on this team?

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Wait no I'm not that would mean no ground 🗿

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nvm

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ye thats a good change

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I think i would go tran > weavile as well

feral drum
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What do I do abt the No Ground thing?

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bc atp feels like stuff like Koko and Offensive Zap just rock me.

limber crypt
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oh true thats annoying

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adem suggested ting lu > weav in the cord

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that should def work for this

sage swift
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should i go for specs dragapult or utility dragapult?

feral drum
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Still tryna decide between Night Slash and Wild Charge on Iron Leaves, since Night Slash lets it potentially more immediately break past Gholdengo, but at the same time, Wild Charge still chunks Dengo pretty hard under Eterrain, as well as sniping Torn and Corvi for Mzor later on in the game.

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glacial leaf
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u can run 24 speed but max def is fine too

glacial leaf
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Remind me what 24 spe outruns again?

feral drum
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silk sluice
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Good tips tysm

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To make tusk offensive i just change the evs and nature right?

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Do you think running ceruledge and venusaur would be viable, so instead of moon i run venus

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sage swift
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i went for heavy duty boots dragapult instead

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is scarf wake or specs wake better?

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@limber crypt

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looking for any improvements I can make to the team

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I also used scarf lando because I wanted some speed to the team

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idk whether to use choice band or sd on iron leaves cuz i alr have specs on valiant

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but i cant rly think of a good item to use with sd

dusk flare
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koko has a serious nature, make it timid

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i would probably just make leaves sd w psychium z + night slash > leaf blade

limber crypt
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or just drop the mon…..

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legit i think this team just needs a a ghost resist over leaves and itll be fine

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small jungle
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do you have any decent natdex ou gen 8 rain team?

pale spear
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Make galantula a defog Rotom and make replace one of ur grounds with kingambit

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Make the ground u don’t replace the stealth rocker (if ur using garchomp def use bulky chomp) and make lele scarf

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Shld be fine, rain looks tough but that’s how it is unfort

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new webs team

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im onetricking webs to top500

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Sun team

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also drop spin on tork for yawn imo

swift pebble
limber crypt
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the primary issue is finding a ground immunity really

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my initial choice is balloon tran but thats obviously not ideal

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zardy > ace is a ootential option but having no steel might be problemmatic

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If u face non choiced lele

swift pebble
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Should Gambit be replaced

swift pebble
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Since already have rocks setter as Torkoal

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spare epoch
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Hello friends, I require some assistance. I wanna upload my team to pokepaste but I keep getting the error message. Would someone mind lending a hand before I file an issue?

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the greatest stall team of all time

pale spear
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Maybe try skele>p2, nasty plot torn>pawmot and glisc>exca

spare kiln
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@limber crypt @ember hollow @pale spear @dusk flare

pale spear
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Also make pult Willo and Tera fairy

spare kiln
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Also what set for Skele

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Also confused about who should have rocks in place of what

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Glis needs Toxic for it to not be passive

pale spear
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And run it out of cure

pale spear
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For garg u run rocks + protect in place of curseeq and for glisc u run rocks over fog

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Not completely recommend the glisc route but since u have so many boots users u can sorta get away with no fog

spare kiln
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Should Garg change Tera

green notch
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@limber crypt

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Since Zard Y has been really common

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Sand

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yo sry but this team is unviable

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id recommed one of the samples to start

solar valley
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