VGC Rates

[weak tusk]

throwing up pkm is not a big deal, go to school

[warm willow]

Yeah i just cant think straight cuz of it

[spiral robin]

a little bit more experimental (meaning theres a skarmory) but any thoughts on this, havent gotten a chance to test w showdown being down but https://pokepast.es/90643bef2bcf3517

also thought abt body press instead of rock slide or even backup tw on skarm but wasnt sure

[weak tusk]

I would keep rock move
milotic using haze, arch pulse change to draco

since you hv will o, sableye can hv less phy bulk investment

[zinc imp]

https://pokepast.es/0c16c0c8c4b33cc0
Why is mega gyarados so fun to use

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9 Champions] VGC RMT @distant trellis, @sleek laurel, @random wagon, @jovial creek, @broken shuttle. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[sleek laurel]

I'm gonna try and get back to rating the unrated teams later today chat

Gimme a few to settle and sorry for the weekend, I had a Regional

[simple gorge]

https://pokepast.es/e23652bd42dfc371 posted mine earlier and got some suggestions but i want some more feedback

hope you did well on the regional!

its for Champions VGC

[sleek laurel]

Looks mostly fine, I would do Protect > Twave on Arch 100% and I don't think Acro on Sneasler is reliable enough that it's worth it without a Terrain Seed

Also consider Tbolt on Manectric if the Rain reliability is too bad

I also usually like Scarf Adaptability Basculegion even in Rain

But if you think the Scarf Mirror is too annoying this is fine

Oh yeah, and you want a bulky Incin spread

No Attack investment, just bulk

I personally like 32 HP / 20 Def / 14 SpD / Relaxed if you want Min Speed Incin

[simple gorge]

yeah i want min speed for Trick Room matchups so ill def use that and make the other changes as well

[sleek laurel]

Yeah fair

[simple gorge]

thanks for the feedback 🫡

[sleek laurel]

Otherwise this looks really good, and np 🫡

[simple gorge]

what would you suggest instead of Acro for Sneasler then? i think the flying coverage is great here

mayb Fake Out?

[sleek laurel]

I like Fake Out yes

That's what I usually do

Double Fake Out is also generally great with non-Stamina Archaludon

[simple gorge]

alright tysm man

[remote jay]

hey guys, competing in one of the finals reg I tournaments for scarlet violet, trying to have a bit of fun but also be competitive with a different/anti meta team, let me know what you think https://pokepast.es/c921af27f302c9d3

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[remote jay]

had chi yu in the regi spot, but changing it to regigigas allowed me have a bit more bulk, free up the choice scarf for tatsu and I feel gives a better option if i dont go with dozo

[sleek laurel]

I mean

The Chi-Yu composition is just competitively superior

Regigigas is not a good Pokémon in a vacuum in any team in S/V

Of course if you want to use it

I honestly do think this might be your best bet

But I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to bring it to a Regional

[remote jay]

just testing it out, other options there were hearthflame or raging bolt, getting the spikes down is paramount

[sleek laurel]

I like those two a lot too

[remote jay]

chi yu was just too awkward with scarf to work there

[sleek laurel]

Chi-Yu is standard but Bolt and Ogerpon are also really good here

But I do like the core in general

Well I mean

It's tried and true anyway

[remote jay]

yeah i like the redirection for ogerpon, weezing cant live the psychic

[sleek laurel]

But I see potential for this for sure

[remote jay]

thanks

[sleek laurel]

I had an Ogerpon version too

[remote jay]

no one running dozo at the moment

[sleek laurel]

And np

Yeah ik lmao

And it's scarier than people give it credit for

[remote jay]

seems could catch people by surprise

even though special attackers are dominating the restricted spots

[sleek laurel]

Dondozo actually beats out stuff like

Koraidon Lunala teams

[remote jay]

but thats also making poison types less popular which is good

[sleek laurel]

And yea

Caly-I teams too

[remote jay]

yeah can stop theme fairly easy

[sleek laurel]

If you Tera it, Miraidon (but it comes out weakened)

The only really tough Restricted for it is CSR honestly

[remote jay]

whimsicott with fake tears is an issue

[sleek laurel]

Which is generally what Chi-Yu was there for

[remote jay]

but that seems rather niche

[sleek laurel]

To beat CSR

[remote jay]

and cant beat everything

[sleek laurel]

Yeah

I just think you should beware of CSR

I like Bolt or AV Incin here

[remote jay]

i 100% am dont worry

[sleek laurel]

More than Hearthpon

Because of CSR yea

[remote jay]

av incin is another option, of course fake out would be helpful

[sleek laurel]

I think AV incin a lot

[remote jay]

but the intimidate doesnt synergise too well with the team sadly

[sleek laurel]

If you don't want the Chi-Yu

But yea that's a bit of an issue

I just think something that beats CSR is all you need

AV Bolt maybe

If you wanna use one of these

But just try out stuff to see what works best for your side

[remote jay]

yeah i think regi, bolt, incin and oferpon

[sleek laurel]

Probs yea

Tbh

[remote jay]

if i had more time would lvoe to but need the build the team in game in coming days

[sleek laurel]

The knock regi is actually funny here

Because of that

But the mon is just eh

[remote jay]

yeah well regi kind of beats caly

[sleek laurel]

Yeah lol

[remote jay]

honestly this is very much the 6th mon, will not see much play

[sleek laurel]

Yes

[remote jay]

normally weezing plus restricted

plus dozo

[sleek laurel]

Yeah

Almost always

[remote jay]

so to me its more what helps weezing get the spikes down

[sleek laurel]

Yea

I agree

Altho

[remote jay]

calyrex can also help, with disable

[sleek laurel]

Yeah

[remote jay]

but its a speed tie at best

[sleek laurel]

Sash Tera Normal

Helps

But its a play basis kinda thing

[remote jay]

yeah

alright ill try and at least do a few game with each of those options

practice is hard as you dont bring it much lol

[warm willow]

I just thought of this stupid ass idea and it requires these 6 pokemon

Lmk if yall see it already

Ill tell yall later if you cant tell

[ripe turret]

this is a boomburst thing isn’t it

with a side of exploding jaw

[tired swift]

Any recommendations for this team I built on a whim: https://pokepast.es/ef6fed8be15bfeac

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[lethal marsh]

https://pokepast.es/2e297c73be19a36f

Need help with my trickroom team, it feels like something is missing

[warm willow]

Well actually i switched out 2 pokemon

Eh ill just tell you, its gonna be a triple explosion team with a triple feint for support

[somber latch]

https://pokepast.es/f5206b1d6111ed79 hey yall need help filling out the remaining slot for my mega meganium team

[warm willow]

Why would you want it to be a trick room team if your other pokemons speeds are maxed

Id recommend running a rain team next to mega meganium though

Cuz of mega sol

[somber latch]

its mostly for backup but also meganium is not the fastest in some cases i'd run rain but i want to try something different if it's possible so i'm trying to avoid it and also going against it

[warm willow]

So then dont invest any points into speed and have tailwind as back up

Switch the role and go for mainly trick room

[somber latch]

what of Aerodactyl and you saying i should go all in on tr

[warm willow]

Keep aero im just saying have aero play a more supporting role

Well if you want to continue with your original plan i say run a more niche trick room setter

So they dont want to fully strategize around you possibly running a trick room

[somber latch]

yeah my main strat was to play around speed control tailwind and tr just so i don't automatically lose

[warm willow]

Go for mimikyu, thats a pretty niche one and players probably wont even expect to even vs against

[somber latch]

ill try mimikyu also i just realized i struggle against scizor or steel type what should i add incin? or do you have a better alt in mind

also gambit sometimes but thats why i mostly use ep of meganium

[warm willow]

Btw alot of pokemon run trick room, pick a pokemon you think would be good

[somber latch]

i see spiritomb

[warm willow]

Yeah go for it

Team building is about testing and making adjustments

[somber latch]

right on man thanks alot

[warm willow]

Np

[weak tusk]

@somber latch NO man, armor tail stopping fake out is CRUCIAL for trick room, also a win con against opposing scarf Basculegion, why would you switch it?

[weak tusk]

all I see is a sand team, tree

[weak tusk]

you can find Blastoise tr team sheet online and see what do you need

[lament scroll]

i have a really stupid idea: bright powder + follow me

[lethal marsh]

This doesn't really help me 😭

[glacial lotus]

https://pokepast.es/020dd1f883c15bdb is this an ok dragonite team?

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[glacial lotus]

I feel like swapping peli for rotom wash

But i want rain for maggron

[bronze ether]

https://pokepast.es/3058774ed5385e64 lowk no idea what to use for my 4th move for froslass

currently using disable, any other recommendations?

[weak tusk]

Let's rephrase my word.
How abt trying the Blastoise team online and tell us what problems you find?
Or why didn't you use those team but build your team instead, what's your reason behind the build?

[bronze ether]

its either between aurora veil, will o wisp, destiny bond, nasty plot or disable rn

[weak tusk]

I feel pelipper is not that necessary?

[weak tusk]

I was abt to say icy wind but other pkm are slow...

yeah other than your list, subtitle/tbolt maybe a choice

[bronze ether]

u mean subsitute

whats tbolt for

[weak tusk]

oops sry typo

[bronze ether]

zard y?

thats the only reason i can think of tbolt usage

[weak tusk]

zard y, pelipper, talon......whatever, just an idea, idk what exact the worst match up is this team facing

you are the one who know what you need the most

[bronze ether]

i havent found a "terrible" matchup so far

i feel like i do pretty well into other weather conditions kinda

i have to depend on other mons to beat those tho

froslass cant rlly do much except will o wisp them

maybe i dont need froslass

ngl

[weak tusk]

a speed control is ideal but your members ' speed is just awkward...

[bronze ether]

mmmmmm

i play pretty well even when the opponent has speed control tho

idt speed is too much of a problem

even if they are slow

Ive played like 30 games with it so far only

Ill try to match up into more zard y n ttar matchups

[weak tusk]

The problem exactly is ppl brought their speed control.
of course froslass and snealser did give them the pressure.

However, speed control pkm are usually having less power compare to others.
So you have a better chance.
Which means if opponent can handle froslass without speed control, they will send all 4 powerful pkm with their speed advantage.

But snealser and gambit sucker is still good at countering speed disadvantage.
However you can consider the value of froslass in this view before you make any changes

[glacial lotus]

I put it there for tailwind and so that i can setup rain for maggron

So he doesnt get obliterated by fire moves

[weak tusk]

a cloud nine user maybe more reliable than fighting weather with opponent? Altaria can fulfill your need with a possible mega to distract opponent. also have some useful moves.
yeah cloud nine doesn't halve fire damage, it depends on your need

[weak tusk]

and why is sinischa sash?...

[zinc imp]

They could just run occa berry with a spdef spread to survive zard y heat wave in sun

[worldly jewel]

Need help asap

I cannot get out of ultra 1

Hard countered by rain and trick room

[ripe turret]

do leech seed>seed bomb on scov and run a attack lowering nature, tect>coaching on sneas, do a diff item on chomp (sitrus/soft sand works), and your EVs are frankly quite terrible

also not really seeing the point of whims here, your team doesn’t seem like it really needs instant tailwind

[worldly jewel]

Who do I add then

[ripe turret]

second mega looks good here

I guess

you could do maero

actually scrap that

farig looks ok there

[worldly jewel]

True!!!!

Trick room counters me hard

[ripe turret]

for your EVs you’re missing a couple on 4/6 of your mons, whims doesn’t need defensive investment with sash (although you could EV it to live wingbeat from aero), scov can be much more efficient with the nature, and chomp should be EV’d to live mfloe gleam

[worldly jewel]

What nature?

And evs

[ripe turret]

generally speaking

you want to nature your higher stats

so smth like 25+ def and 9 spdef on scov

would get you more bulk in general

[worldly jewel]

Ok

[ripe turret]

chomp I’m unsure of

but you can play around on the damage calc

and figure that out

I would but I don’t have a ton of time rn

same w/ whims

[worldly jewel]

I am adding Farigiraf

Tailwind isnt necessary for chomp and sneasler

[ripe turret]

oh right

don’t mind me just casually forgetting my own advice

but yeah other than that

it looks good

[worldly jewel]

Can someone rate my singles team?

[silk lodge]

#1060690402711183370

[worldly jewel]

Its kinda dead

[stiff cargo]

rate my teamhttps://pokepast.es/450e0792e91168cd dm me your thoughts

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[stiff cargo]

rate my teamhttps://pokepast.es/450e0792e91168cd

im bad at making teams

[fluid pendant]

Got a team, but its performance fluctuates a lot https://pokepast.es/c64ec7c5c376444f

[weak tusk]

may want a sinischa?
encore on the cake and sableye at the same time is not necessary?
may want to look into countering fari trick room team?

[warm willow]

Guys mind helping me with making this team?

@weak tusk ik ur helpful

Wanna help

This is i think like version 8 of the team by now

And i decided to start from square one and choose pokemon i feel would be good together

Do you think this is also good or?

[weak tusk]

as a hard trick room team it lacks the big damage to kill opponent within the 4 turns

[warm willow]

Well i was planning on running something a little niche on kang

Yk that one set kangs run where they have fakeout and last resort

[weak tusk]

kang can't do it since parent bond is not for spread moves

[warm willow]

I want to run something a tad bit different

[warm willow]

Ouuu shi

Wait last resort isnt a spread move though

[weak tusk]

you wanna do your unique thing so you don't have a mega? Or you wanna mega her so you can't hit a ghost type?

[warm willow]

Well actually now that you mention it

Mega sounds nicer

[weak tusk]

ppl don't care to share their thoughts but you have to do your own efforts first.
do your trial and error thing, search for team sheet and learn from them, review move pool of your main pkm, even open 2 browser to battle yourself with meta team on showdown ...... before you ask for help.

and I believe no one have time for the guess my idea thing.

[zinc imp]

https://pokepast.es/bba042067a63687c
Trick Room, now with h decidueye.

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[glacial lotus]

https://pokepast.es/28525052c8f33917 should i swap volc here for incineroar?

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[weak tusk]

tw redirect is not bad

[glacial lotus]

I was thinking it might be good so that kyogre can spout

But

Calyrex

I should get a wide guard user

[weak tusk]

incin doesn't help kyogre spout.
you need speed to spout, double fake out is for set up like calm mind.

yeah you can move only at the fake out turn but either are your opponent.

I would leave Calyrex to scarf urshifu but you need tw to maintain urshifu's speed advantage

tbh spout here is not easy to use...but that's kyogre
if you want to spout, try the screen+ wo chien + av kyogre team?

[zinc imp]

i mean
i run timid max speed mystic kyogre and still get to spout against some meta threats n stuff

[lavish trellis]

idk if this teams any good but please check it, i thoight of switching rotom for basc but then my team is almost all phys attack https://pokepast.es/506428961412ef26 https://pokepast.es/2f6fad5d150a2b5e

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[daring fable]

I've been somewhat experimenting with different mons for Trick Room and I wanted advice on the latest team I've built https://pokepast.es/ba59df031543e2c2

[muted bramble]

This is for champions VGC on showdown. Any tips? So far Im 3-0 with this team but Im pretty bad so I might just be getting lucky.

https://teams.pokemonshowdown.com/view/1775904-ysha90raeuws46n4v9pf

[mighty hare]

https://pokepast.es/e8ffcdb588ec8b77

I've had this really dumb idea I've been trying to use and I was hoping to get some possible feedback on how I could make this better

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[mighty hare]

I Usually start with one of my megas and maushold to try and bait a fake out before swapping in to mudsdale and pop bomb on it

and with delphox I psych up and store power

but usually I just want to try and keep mudsdale around as long as possible

[lavish trellis]

Where are the raters

[ripe turret]

never fear I am here

I’ll do a couple of these once I get home

confirmed above average rater by stallsun

[daring fable]

W Mans lol

[weak tusk]

what's the brick break for?
is drampa light screen needed when clefeble have it?
beat up would be more stable, I believe you understand that as well
horse and fox share water weakness, why not archaludon?

[weak tusk]

team not found

[muted bramble]

I took it down cause noone responded 😭

[weak tusk]

do you think we are convenient store or what? stand by 24 hours?😂

[muted bramble]

I can put it back though if you wanna look its just a slightly off meta rain team

[muted bramble]

🤣

https://psim.us/t/1776058

[mighty hare]

Brick break is there for Reflect and Aurora Veil
Drampa has light screen as I often times bring in Sinistcha Over Clefairy but I also like the option of having an additional light screen user as a failsafe
Yes I understand beatup is would be more consistent but I like the damage from population bomb to finish off pokemon
Mudsdale over Archaludon mostly because I like Mudsdale but it also for the fact that it has Body Press

[weak tusk]

Is reflect that common?...
I would have t wave or icy to support speed for fox at the back but whatever......

[mighty hare]

I don't know why but I keep getting people with like reflect

though yeah I could see why you'd run those two though

[weak tusk]

I believe incin has been doing 90% of the reflect work😂

[mighty hare]

lmao

[weak tusk]

so you are using a mega as a screen setter who is slower than 80% of other pkm thus screen will be set after the first wave of atk?

if you send drampa, it means you are not sending delphox right? is that worthy?

[mighty hare]

Yeah

but by the point where I will need light screen I already would've set up mudsdale

they would prioitize my mudsdale over my drampa so they get if off the field

that's what happens like almost always

[weak tusk]

yeah so what that mega doing there would be set up screen so the horse can sleep again? instead of atk?

[mighty hare]

Horse would usually protect

Unless someone sets up trick room for me (which just happened just now 😭)

[ripe turret]

this looks mostly fine, just a couple small things

• go moonblast>lor on floe (the longevity is way more useful on cm sets with intim + sini) and EV it bulkier, my spread is 26/0-/23/15+/0/2
• bulk out sini more, my personal spread is 32/0-/19+/0/15/0 which lives max attack black glasses kowtow and has a strong roll for mfross blizzard but you can make your own spread
• run bug bite on scizor over knock off, it's just too weak of a move since it doesn't get boosted by either stab or technician
• change rock tomb to rock slide on harc unless there's a specific speed interaction that you really need to deal with
  other than that looks pretty solid

[weak tusk]

how abt mud➡️ arch
drampa➡️ slowbro

[mighty hare]

Mega Slowbro?

[ripe turret]

• idt gallade is the best mon to be using here but if you're committed to using it it's workable, I'd just run white herb>sash since it's naturally pretty bulky and you're investing even more in its hp
• don't think twin beam farig is super necessary since most sneasler are running white herb and the power difference is noticeable with psychic (although this one is honestly not as big of a deal tbh), EVs also feel a little weird, either hit the spatk nature jump or just full commit to defenses
• poltergeist>phantom force on golurk, the main reason pult can use it is because it forces a guessing game with targeting whereas with golurk you just want to be doing as much damage as possible as soon as possible and phantom force's charging turn effectively is wasting half of trick room compared to spamming poltergeist four times in a row
• don't think brick break's secondary effect is worth using over low kick on ttar esp. when the latter gets a guaranteed OHKO on gambit while the former is a roll
  overall I'm not sure what this team really is doing, the first three mons form a hardroom core but then it just feels like you're kinda pulling away from that with the more mid speed mons as your last three, so I'd say either scrap gallade + golurk and run bulky offense or delete prim + incin + ttar and just full commit to hardroom

maybe I should've put that first before all of the smaller things lmao

[daring fable]

I see I see. I just was trying to find my way around Charizard since my team could never really hit it

[ripe turret]

honestly idk what to say other than that this is a gimmick team and it will most likely remain a gimmick team but there are some improvements that you could make

• triple light screen is very very redundant, you only need a single user (probably clef cuz that's your support mon)
• if you really want to use mudsdale I'd do ironpress leftovers and run a ground move over heavy slam
• not entirely sure what drampa is doing here, yes you have coverage but you also have no stab? as a result it kinda just ends up sitting on the field because you don't have a really big delete button like draco or a consistent high damage spread move like hyper voice
• brick break clef is just not worth running over something like moonblast so it can actually do meaningful damage, getting rid of screens is not very important and the main setter (sableye) is immune anyways
• strength sap on sini makes kinda no sense while running it with sash and maxed offenses, just do a bulky sitrus set

[ripe turret]

• to be frank I'm not sure what you're trying to do with this team, you're advertising it as rain but I'm not really seeing why you're not just using the better rain beneficiaries like basc or arch
• corv is just completely redundant, it doesn't bring anything to the table that your other mons already cover
• three attack sini with full bulk investment? you'd probably be better off running a supportive moveset
  in general I think you're gonna need to overhaul this team quite a bit, I understand that pika is the point of this team but you're not using it with any other good rain mons and frankly it's just quite bad, if you want to build rain I'd go with peli + arch + basc + sciz + 2

[mighty hare]

Yeah this always going to be a gimmick team though to be honest thanks for the tips

Although could I swap moonblast for drain kiss?

[weak tusk]

How could you keep the same tone with all those team Rain......did you put your words to an AI before reply?

[ripe turret]

bro what 🥀

do I have to write differently for every single rate I do

[ripe turret]

doesn't do enough damage, clef's low base spatk evens out with moonblast's strong base power to deal decent damage whereas with dkiss it's a weak move on a weak mon, and the healing is not worth it

[weak tusk]

I would have been mad or given up that structured reply if I see sth...”not well prepared”

don't get me wrong Rain, I am praising you

[ripe turret]

ok

that's an interesting way of giving praise lol

[weak tusk]

I apologize if my word still upset you

[ripe turret]

you're good lol

[mighty hare]

https://pokepast.es/91c3634770cc4c2f

So something like this would be better?

Could probably do earthquake on Mudsdale tho ngl

Would be nice damage

[ripe turret]

do idef bpress on muds

over body slam iron head

TR over scald on sini since you have a ton of slow mons

and probably cm on drampa

[mighty hare]

Accidentally clicked body press

[ripe turret]

you have enough support there

oh lol

[mighty hare]

I mean slam

Wait why do I have slam instead press

[ripe turret]

lmao

you also want to be bulking out sini more

[ripe turret]

you can use the spread I listed up here

[mighty hare]

Alright

[daring fable]

What changes would you reccomend because I've ran Torkal and mons like that and things don't workout the best

[ripe turret]

if you're not vibing with htr then you could do farig + incin + prim + ttar and then run like

I guess exca

and maybe like

aegi?

rotom?

[daring fable]

I wanna run htr but I just hate running into Charizard and being walled by him at times

[ripe turret]

mega ttar eats zardy for breakfast

I guess you could do like

mega crab is an option

htr is one of the teams that I'm less well versed in

[daring fable]

So what get rid of Goluk?

[ripe turret]

nah golurk is fine

golurk + crab

and then like

farig

[weak tusk]

I personally believe Golurk is not viable as a tr sweeper since he has no good spread move and vulnerable to intimidate...
yeah he can go through protect but the damage is very small
unless you can eq😂

but yeah he has his strength

[ripe turret]

hitting through protect is still very nice

tbh though

I've never really seen the appeal

but it's on all of the popular teams

[weak tusk]

the damage just do not always change the hits required unless facing sash pkm

but what tr needs is fast killing before tr ends

[ripe turret]

yeah but what I'm saying is just like

it helps against protect stalling

which is one of the main ways to deal with htr

obv not gonna do much next to like

farig

but if you pair it with a sweeper then it ends up being solid

at least that's what I've seen

[weak tusk]

I see your point but prefer the mega himself being sweeper
if he is there to support the sweeper why not sth like a feint user+torkoal?

[daring fable]

So would something like this work better? I just don't know who to have for a sixth https://pokepast.es/680addc0124104a5

[weak tusk]

and yeah how to place 2 attacker on the field is important for htr

[ripe turret]

scrap ttar/aegi

I think you do silk scarf kang here

and then honestly

there's no better mon in TR than tork

[weak tusk]

cannot agree more

[ripe turret]

you could prob fit kg last

[daring fable]

https://pokepast.es/3c6ea3a3ed84a9a6 So this then?

[pallid saffron]

https://pokepast.es/088ae6d75494c2ee
Wanted to start testing out charizard teams. Is this good? Twin beam farigiraf is to deal with opposing sash glimm easier.

[ripe turret]

yeah sth like that

do the fake out last resort kang set

and heat wave torkoal

[daring fable]

How do I do that? And is it Heatwave over Eruption or Weather ball?

[ripe turret]

you just run two moves

fake out last resort

heat wave over solar beam prob

[daring fable]

How would I hit grass types and do the two moves thing?

[ripe turret]

wdym

[ripe turret]

personally a mchomp hater but I think this is a good team to be using it on

also not super sold on kasib basc but it is a thing that I've seen

[pallid saffron]

oh wait its not supposed to be mchomp

changed it to dragon fang

[ripe turret]

oh lol

[daring fable]

A mon needs four moves to enter battle no?

[ripe turret]

nope

[pallid saffron]

cus it achieves the same thing i wanted

[ripe turret]

just put fake out last resort

[ripe turret]

ok yeah then in that case that's fine, I think if you're not running mchomp then scarf/soft sand might actually be better

but yeah

[pallid saffron]

Yeah dragon fang is to guarentee the kill on opposing chomp but ill try soft sand out then

[ripe turret]

I see

[daring fable]

Like this? https://pokepast.es/564d31abaead1e40

[ripe turret]

yeah

[daring fable]

What item for Ttar

[ripe turret]

don't use dual weather

[daring fable]

Oh so then who for Ttar?

Sorry if I'm asking too many questions btw

[ripe turret]

nah you're good

uh

incin looks fine

actually

you probably want a second TR setter

[daring fable]

Oh so use unnerve then?

[ripe turret]

I think sylv looks good there

fairy coverage is nice and its type is good defensively

[daring fable]

https://pokepast.es/5b24d3bd63554c99

This?

[ripe turret]

yeah

just ev it and it should be good

[daring fable]

I feel I'm still gonna get rolled by ZardY but I still wanna thank you for the help

[ripe turret]

it has a low defense, just roll it with crab/kang

I think hh last resort ohkos

same with hh ice hammer

against 2 hp 0 def zard both actually are guaranteed even without hh

your main lead should be kang + farig, just fake out t1 and then last resort + do something with farig

btw you want brave on crab

not adamant

[weak tusk]

I would prefer scale shot if mega chomp is used

[daring fable]

Oh thank you then for the help

[muted bramble]

Im mainly using rain defensively. I chose corva as a tailwind user, steel bulk, and fairy coverage, but I get what you mean. I can replace shadow ball with rage powder and scald with life dew on sini but I just opted for the coverage

[smoky zenith]

https://pokepast.es/3b3712ad2cd88480

already changed aero to sash

is double mega ideal here?

[ripe turret]

dual mega looks fine there, you could also replace mphox with mfloe pretty easily

rindo milo looks pretty odd though esp. since you already have four grass resists that you can switch in easily, I think you'd much rather do sitrus sini and lefties milo

also occa gambit seems odd, chople feels like it would have more impact

and not having protect on maero or gambit is definitely questionable

[smoky zenith]

occa was for baiting incineroar

[ripe turret]

blitz won't KO it anyways though

unless they're running max atk adamant and even then it's a low roll

and since you're running aero zardy shouldn't be too large of a problem either

although tbf

you do have good sneasler checks asw

you could probably get away with black glasses here actually

[smoky zenith]

i had swapped aero to base form w sash

mega is probably better though

[ripe turret]

yeah that's honestly fine too

I like the mega here because it gives you some more fast damage

[smoky zenith]

milo is mainly for the fwg core and extra life dew support + giving me something that doesnt get donked by physical attackers badly

[ripe turret]

yeah that's reasonable

I just think that like

there's not really a lot of strong grass attacks in the metagame rn

milo isn't really threatened by any to the point where the berry would help against a 1hko or something

and the consistent lefties heal makes it way more difficult to get rid of

[smoky zenith]

now that you mention it idk why i was blind as fuck looking at 4 grass resists 😭 and putting rindo on it

[ripe turret]

lol it happens

[smoky zenith]

haven't built for vgc at all

will make these changes though

[ripe turret]

oh damn

this is good for a first build

[smoky zenith]

i may drop tailwind on aero for protect since half the team is pretty speedy

[ripe turret]

eh I think wide guard is more droppable

tw is never a bad thing to have in any matchup

against opposing tailwind or stuff

[smoky zenith]

true

[ripe turret]

because you don't have a lot of other good speed control

other than icy wind milo

which is not very consistent

esp now that I think about it I think TR on sini is valid here

[smoky zenith]

dropping a move on gambit for protect has me split between low kick and one of the dark moves

[ripe turret]

usually you either drop low kick or iron head

depends on what you're weaker to

I have seen kowtow dropped though

in favor for double coverage

but personally I've found that to be a little weird

[smoky zenith]

i feel like im good into both things low kick and iron head would hit

although

not having a single fairy resist besides delphox is shaky

so i might keep iron head

[ripe turret]

yeah I think you drop low kick

sneasler is good fighting coverage for ttar and opposing gambit and nobody is bringing incin into your team

[smoky zenith]

which is a net positive because of mega delphox

[ripe turret]

yeah

[smoky zenith]

sinistcha's redirection also helps in actually being able to nasty plot

not having to slot in focus blast or grass knot or something is nice

[smoky zenith]

i have pretty much zero real experience with doubles formats

[weak tusk]

I don't like tw maero which makes you difficult to bring mega fox at the same match...

[smoky zenith]

aero still functions in base form

[weak tusk]

um...not wrong

[zinc imp]

https://pokepast.es/2ef92983427361e4

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[lavish trellis]

Should i run basc or rotom?

[bronze ether]

https://pokepast.es/f8f26f786c32019b mega feraligatr spam body slam + paralyze

what we think

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[bronze ether]

or should i js use double edge set instead

cuz thats easier to play

but recoil kinda hurts

[weak tusk]

kang➡️ coaching snealser
aegi➡️ sth counter trick room or counter sun

and you know you have 2 ev left at whim right?

sinischa help you maintain hp+has trick room

[ripe turret]

both work fine, basc does make you a little weak to incin but I think it’s still playable

[ripe turret]

yeah just do double edge here

also I think dragon dance is kinda necessary on mfera just because its base speed stat is so awkward

and yes like rabbithorn said sini is better on these sorts of compositions, but then I’d just be worried about your sun matchup

plus the fact that you have zero fast mons

[bronze ether]

yea i was debating the both

js tried swords dance to begin with

[bronze ether]

did try coaching sneasler at the start

forgot why i changed it

im psure cuz i had focus sash on whims instead

also feraligtr has a decent matchup into sun i think

[ripe turret]

yeah mfera itself does decent into sun, it's just that your supporting cast doesn't really

[bronze ether]

incin?

fake out support + parting shot

[ripe turret]

yeah but like

it can’t really like

do damage

[bronze ether]

i can js support mega feraligatr and he do the damage

[ripe turret]

by the time you cycle it off the field it’s taking 50%

[bronze ether]

yooo

what about

throwing on peliper

wide guard + removes sun

ah

@ripe turret glimm

glimm does pretty good

counter sun + mega floette

[ripe turret]

I like peli

glimm is more untested

[bronze ether]

glimm can give me another win condition

if i dont wnna run fera

[ripe turret]

I think that could work

[bronze ether]

thinking who i should throw sash on tho

i think sneasler wants it more

[ripe turret]

nah just do white herb sneas

whims wants it more

[bronze ether]

i threw whims off

i threw on corv

for tailwind

and hes pretty nice into garchomp

[ripe turret]

if you’re using glimm

it benefits far more from instant tailwind

[bronze ether]

i could js scarf

glimm

sac his ahh for the zard

https://pokepast.es/507099e4b5ba6457 @ripe turret

[ripe turret]

this looks fine

[uncut rain]

https://pokepast.es/2dc318ed430d9b4c new to vgc, trying to build a classic arcanine team for a mate. Would love some thoughts on making it competent 😀

[plain kestrel]

Lowkey I might have to look at gatr again

[real swift]

https://pokepast.es/889cc570f847e745
I love araquanid

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[smoky zenith]

@ripe turret https://pokepast.es/84d431af873e129d

made those tweaks finally

[ripe turret]

that looks good

[smoky zenith]

keeping occa on gambit for heat waves n stuff

[weak tusk]

arcanine is great, may want to look into howl as well but as debuff support he is strong too.
don't you want a set up team with mega like calm mind Floette if you have that powerful debuff support?

[uncut rain]

I like that logic but I don't believe my mate has legendZA, unsure if they can use it

some other fairy/delphox could be g tho!

[weak tusk]

shell smash Blastoise?
howl for d dance Alligator?
Hishui Arcani(for anti fire)+ s dance skarmony?

But you will want a sinischa...or sleep+rage powder pollen puff Vivi?

draining kiss from Floette is a unique strength to recover hp that lost while setting up

[silk lodge]

Gengar Gyarados team
https://pokepast.es/e8bc1237869b7c5b

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[silk lodge]

my sableye archalodon matchup is in shambles

[bronze ether]

scale shot is kinda booty

dragon claw is more consistent

also i think bitter malice is better on zoroark if u want more supportive capabilities

[hollow shale]

https://pokepast.es/5e00fb7fec0044cf fun toxicroak team :)

[twin stag]

https://pokepast.es/e31343dbee828399 yard my goat

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[twin stag]

I just realised I have scarf with swords dance

😭

[nova inlet]

It happens

[sweet maple]

ur missing consistent speed control

ur team doesnt have enough bulk to pivot around

if i was you id add either a lot of priority moves

as speed control

[fringe gorge]

I'm really new myself to VGC so could be way off but I'd switch outrage for rockslide on chomp purely off how good rock slide is and how random outrage is

[plain kestrel]

You also have no physical attackers and a bunch of mons that do the same thing

Volc and zard do the same thing

[fringe gorge]

on the topic of bulk, you could rework volc into its rage powder set? I feel like you have enough set up and zard covers fire special attacker

[plain kestrel]

Except one sets up and the other immediately pressures

[plain kestrel]

They both die to rocks

[sturdy briar]

So I tried making a team mainly centred around Reuniclus. So far I don't think they have great Synergy outside of maybe Hatterene + Reuniclus (also I haven't trained Espion or Gallade). Is the tean bad? I'm not looking for something absolutely amazing, just something that'd pass in Champions. I don't mind any requested changes, as long as I get to have Reuniclus as the main Pokemon

(I gave Reuniclus a Twisted Spoon and Hatterne a Colbur Berry)

[plain kestrel]

I think reuniclus is underexplored too

I think you could run it with ttar tho like rlly bulky ttar

[sweet maple]

In general ur team is missing bulk to pivot around speed control to control the pace id reccomend you remove volc and add any pokemon with fake out replace esphatra for sylveon for more bulk and more consistent damage id keep the garchomp but remove the outrage for rock slide Replace rotom-wash for mega aerodacytl for consistent speed control and u can do wtv with archaludon as long the pokemon has enough bulk to pivot around

@twin stag

ur team is missing bulk speed control and to many pokemon who did the same thing

think as pokemons as roles

[sturdy briar]

Ttar?

[plain kestrel]

I mean rotom is okay

[sweet maple]

hes missing speed control

and has no priority

[plain kestrel]

I think the Archaludon slot has to be speed control

The volc slot has to be replaced

And I agree with sylveon over espa

But rotom isn’t bad here

I think you can keep rotom if you do everything else yk

[sweet maple]

id do char sylveon mega aero garchomp incin and archa

his team is lackluster

[plain kestrel]

That’s fine too

[sweet maple]

but hes new to vgc so dont try to be to harsh

[plain kestrel]

There’s a few cool approaches

Like zard rotom chomp aero Sylveon

[sweet maple]

when ur team doesnt have speed control u need fake out pokemon and a lot of priority his team was missing all of those

[plain kestrel]

He can also do whims glimm rotom chomp zard

[plain kestrel]

Yes I agree

[sweet maple]

whims wouldnt work on this type of team

[plain kestrel]

Why not

[sweet maple]

missing bulk would be forced to run sash

[sturdy briar]

Any suggestions?

[fringe gorge]

Actually, I have my own team I was looking to get reviewed, featuring Kleavor. I see it as a great anti-meta pick into Yard, and wanted to put it on HO alongside Talonflame. I'm really new to VGC tho (I used Sable-Arch for a week, I'm sorry), so I then just tried to think what else would work well under tailwind, or support those/cover weaknesses. Played a few games and made some adjustments, landing on this.

https://pokepast.es/4ed72611f5654207

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[sweet maple]

ok wait

[plain kestrel]

The bulk is in the rotom slot

[sweet maple]

i removed rotom for my suggestion

😭

[plain kestrel]

Your dash is on glimm

[plain kestrel]

I didn’t that’s why it can work

[plain kestrel]

^

[sweet maple]

ur team has great bulk and consistent damage output but its missing a way to control the pace of the game or speed control

nvm

talonflame

ignore what i said

[fringe gorge]

Honestly, my main thing with the team is I haven't actually brought basc much, and often floette feels like it just trades, which is probably fine, but I wonder if there's a better mega slot out there

[sweet maple]

floette is trading because it doesnt have any support

ur team doesnt support it

only sneasler does

feint kleavor is meh

[fringe gorge]

maybe matcha? but I worry it doesn't exert any pressure

[sweet maple]

u could use vivillion to exert a lot of pressire

pressure

[plain kestrel]

I think this 6 is fine but your scarf can go on kleavor

To immediately pressure zard and basc

[sweet maple]

replace bascu for vivillion and use calm mind floette

[plain kestrel]

And sash can go on basc

[fringe gorge]

I've really really enjoyed feint on Kleavor actually, not just to break protect and enable its partner but also to break sashes before it goes down after it uses its own

[plain kestrel]

Nah

You Hundo keep the basc

[fringe gorge]

I was going to use calm mind floette but I thought it'd be wasteful to spend tailwind turns boosting

[plain kestrel]

Yeah

Right now everyone’s just pressuring immediately and not setting up

It’s because of how the top dogs operate

Zard chomp gambit sneasler basc floette sylveon etc

All immediately just go in and attack immediately

[fringe gorge]

I think on a different variation of the team with rage powder support or sleep it'd be really good, but that team would play a lot slower and overall different

[plain kestrel]

Even support pieces are offensive

whims fairy feather

[fringe gorge]

yeah this is what I realised when making the team and looking at the meta like you can't afford for your support mon to just sit there, which is what led me to my initial talonflame set (sharp beak brave bird, flare blitz over quick guard)

[plain kestrel]

You can just put whims on the talon slot lowkey

[sturdy briar]

Any suggestions?

[sweet maple]

https://pokepast.es/91db0805c0cba5e5

this is how id modify ur team

[plain kestrel]

Kleavor should be chomp but it’s ok

[sweet maple]

u could always replace vivillion

for another speed control mon

[plain kestrel]

How do you beat the sneasler gambit mirror

Gambits run iron head still sometimes

Floette kinda has too much on its plate now

Basc was better imo

[sweet maple]

i transformed his offensive team into a set up balance

[fringe gorge]

the reason talon is there instead of whims is because the counter to this yard counter is
Whimsicott Tailwind + Protect on Charizard, then solar beam + moonblast on the next turn

so I run feint+acro to guarantee delete whims on that line

[sweet maple]

i didnt take that into consideration while rebuilding ur team uh oh

[fringe gorge]

I think your version plays so different that that line won't come up tbh, I'll give it a few rounds and come back, see if I run into anything

[sweet maple]

also id run the floette a bit bulkier

[plain kestrel]

Encore punishes that passive activity

So does feint

You’re definitely right tho

But that’s one line zard teams love to do

In bo3 that wouldn’t work

[fringe gorge]

thats why i avoid bo3 like the plague with this team lmao

[sweet maple]

vivillion is a bo1 demon

[sturdy briar]

Any suggestions on what I could improve or change?

[plain kestrel]

Are you purposefully running monotype psychic

[sturdy briar]

Yeah

[plain kestrel]

Oh

Then I don’t know

If you weren’t mono psychic

Tyranitar is a good idea here

Reuniclus tyranitar rotom corv exca sneasler type of thing

[sturdy briar]

What does Rotom do in the team?

I like Rotom

[sturdy briar]

I'm only running it because I don't know how to do a multi type team

[sweet maple]

@fringe gorge did it work

[plain kestrel]

I wouldn’t run monotype stuff

Kingambit runs through this team atm

I’d try sand with reuniclus

I think there’s potential there

[sturdy briar]

Whos sand?

[fringe gorge]

I ran into sand and got eviscerated

[sweet maple]

😭

[fringe gorge]

might've been a skill issue tbh but the team managed to hold onto what was honestly a bad match up pretty well (then ttar and exca came out and it was joever)

[sweet maple]

lead sneasler first againts sand teams

[fringe gorge]

I did 😭 they knew and kept their sand core in the back

[sturdy briar]

?

[sweet maple]

sand is a weather condition

that tyranitar can put up

[sturdy briar]

Oooh

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https://pokepast.es/0cc974b790b5fd3b mega chandeladure team open to any change but them

is mega venusaur good here?

[twin stag]

yeah I already swapped volc for incineroar

[sweet maple]

remove espathra

replace for sylveon

[somber latch]

https://pokepast.es/81f6f9005e344e22 thoughts on my team

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[dreamy tiger]

Scizor/Venu rain

[weak tusk]

for all htr team, I will ask what's their strength compare to torkoal, can you eliminate your enemy before tr run out?

[zinc imp]

Not enough firepower to eliminate stuff in just five turns
Run mcamerupt or torkoal

Or both, actually.

Also what are the 2 points in spA on the araquanid for
Why does heatom run passho berry

And uh the farig just dies to gambit in tr i guess

[nova inlet]

Is there anything I should change here

[weak tusk]

I am always anti Acrobatics...
I would rather run brave bird sash or sharp beak dual wing beat etc...
quick guard is a cool choice

and r u sure u want sludge WAVE?
if you do...at least use telepathy on Gardevoir...
does not seems huge but I would hv iron head instead of poison jab on chomp, unless we see more meganium.

do you rlly need 2 will o user?

sand buff mega glimmora sounds great but you don't need 3 ground weakness at your team...

and 3 steel weaknesses...
I understand you have your weapons for steel but most of them are slower than skarmony.

[nova inlet]

I went for sash wing beat on flame and replaced wisp with taunt

I thought about using bomb but I got hardwalled by a mega chestnaut team so I decided to keep wave

The weakness for steel isn’t an issue at all other than corv so I’m working on that

Same for ground

For garchomp I went white herb but I haven’t seen a lot of use for it so I went sitrus and gave incin shucca

I’m probably gonna switch garde for something else idk what though

[nova inlet]

I think rotom would help a lot against corv

Idkkk I only have Garde have for sableye teams

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[weak tusk]

Kang with hammer arm for trick room mod and anti incin and gambit?
or a milotic for anti incin?
sunny day on whim?
venu...idk how's she doing?
may want the queen majesty/fari for sucker?

[acoustic scroll]

venu is doing lowk well for the rain machups and is it worth to loose encore for sunny day? my team isnt really built for trickroom they havs it only to counter hard trickroom team but maybe i could do a semiroom and ywah i think an anti suckerpunch is a good idea the good thing tho mega chandelure is a bit bulky so he survives one from gambit

[plain kestrel]

why is chandelure mega evolving

i mean its stats look nice on paper but you lose an immunity for a whatever ability

i feel like you could just do sash chandelure, floette, tsareena, whims, sneasler, +1

and that gives you a second mega option

idk bout chandelure

i havent really paid much attention to it, i always beat it if it mega evolves

https://pokepast.es/ad4c411c46e30ad6 im not saying this is the best example but i think you could replace the ceru on my team here for thing

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idk i kinda like his design and he hits like a truck i wanted to see if he could've worked

[plain kestrel]

to get a tr angle

[distant trellis]

Mega manectric is kinda baaad just ftr

It has stuff it can do but the stats aren't the best

[plain kestrel]

hes here for some reason

he does ok into zard and perish which floette dont rlly love

the point is i think whims floette tsareena is really busted i called it before it got clout

[acoustic scroll]

and he is bulkier than mega gengar so he is not usually easy to one tap even with some supereffective moves

[plain kestrel]

right now you roll to die to kowtow which is bad for your tr mode you roll to die to soft sand chomp too

put more defence bulk on it

[weak tusk]

if you are not sending chande against other weather team, then sunny day is not necessary.
but for other sun team, they usually get a Garchomp and you may want more solutions other than whim?

[acoustic scroll]

yeah i played somegames and i will had more bulk

[weak tusk]

chande survive sucker only at full hp right? u will need more support to her if she is the main dam source

[acoustic scroll]

yeah my machup tu zard flotte is not great rn

[plain kestrel]

yes

whats rotom here for

[acoustic scroll]

maushold maybe?

[acoustic scroll]

that machup and rain teams

[plain kestrel]

whats venu here for

[acoustic scroll]

rain and sand teams mostly

[plain kestrel]

put sash glimm on ts

i think you want prio block too

bun sneasler bun rotom

rotom doesnt do fabulous into rain imo

[weak tusk]

1 more reason I suggested sunny day is...I believe the fire power of chand is not more than zard y if you don't hv the weather. and that makes her just a worse version of zard y

[plain kestrel]

arch pressures it and dnite walls it

[plain kestrel]

itll be fine with tspikes

imo

tspikes can put things in range

glimm will pressure floette and zard

and vs rain idk how its not free with sunny day whims

and a venusaur

[acoustic scroll]

with the play i've Tries he did decsnt but yeah I havw more than enough for rain rn

[weak tusk]

the 3 mons mentioned are all not great against steel type you know...but yeah they are not bad

[plain kestrel]

theyre fine in this scenario

[acoustic scroll]

yeah makes sense

[plain kestrel]

my team had ceru theirs could have chandelure

and what steel types right now are running around that floette still doesnt chunk

the occasional aegislash

steels right now dont resist fairy unless theyre corv and aegi

and i guess tink too

for perish

and like if you come across a corv you still have bare options

[weak tusk]

Japanese had a trend of using mega skarmony, bc hevout speed zard and hv rock moves, at the end of last reg so you may wanna watch it out

[plain kestrel]

oh ya facts

its manageable tho

this is why i picked manectric

😉

[acoustic scroll]

thanks for the tips ill try to fix the team

[weak tusk]

and tspike is not that reliable, half of the ppl hv a snealser at their team that easily erase the spikes

[plain kestrel]

sneasler is usually led

[weak tusk]

but glimmora is still great

[plain kestrel]

people love leading sneasler

[heavy hatch]

Hi can you rate my team and tell me how to improve : https://pokepast.es/bc088170928bdf8b

This is my first time I made a team, new to competitive pokemon

[weak tusk]

I will suggest you just search for a team sheet abt baton Espathra if you are new.

the spread there will help you a lot, for example you don't need max spatk if you are going to baton pass.

[heavy hatch]

cool, my logic was that for gengars and other sneaslers, max spatk would be nice. In games where sylveon is not good, im using calm mind and then psychic

or maybe im expecting too much out of my espartha! I liked the match up against perish song gengar for sure!

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[bronze ether]

https://pokepast.es/7f00e49104c6a4bb can i get a suggestion for a 6th slot?

[somber latch]

@bronze ether a weather setter?

[bronze ether]

i was gonna add pelipper

cuz i really liked tailwind + wide guard support

• cutting charizard y damage in half

ttar COULD also work as a slow tr mode that also counters tailwind/charizard teams

[somber latch]

yeah you can test it out i was also thinking of icy wind politoad and maybe some perish song shinanigans if you know how to use it

[bronze ether]

but rn im trying out

rotom was

wash

as it gives me a better match up into garchomps + basculegion\

[somber latch]

rotom wash is one of my all time fav i recommend adding electro web if youre going to use him

[bronze ether]

im using a leftovers set

with will o wisp

hydro pump being inconsistent is quite annoying however

i might try ttar

ill note that down

[bronze ether]

nah that takes away too much of the core idea

i might use poli tho

[somber latch]

yeah thats the problem with using any rotom in general unless you wanna experiment with no guard or gravity sableye problem again is your opponent wont miss

you have to kill them first before they csan take advantage

[bronze ether]

whats a good ttar set

should i just run

[plain kestrel]

Lacking some speed control ngl

[bronze ether]

ttarite

[plain kestrel]

Put talon on this

[bronze ether]

dont really mind playing in tailwind or tw

since i live everything

[plain kestrel]

Yea it gives you more options tho

[bronze ether]

i did try talon

didnt work too well

[plain kestrel]

I think like

[bronze ether]

had corv on there for a while

[plain kestrel]

Both sini and maus is a bit a lot

[bronze ether]

still didnt like it too much

in matchups where maus cannot work

[plain kestrel]

They do the same thing just have a different matchup table

[bronze ether]

i bring sini

[plain kestrel]

Yea true

It definitely can work

[bronze ether]

hmm

[plain kestrel]

What are you struggling into

[bronze ether]

maybe ttar to replace maus?

[bronze ether]

probably zard y matchups

they prove to be quite the nuisance

not tried with rotom yet tho

currently have rotom on the team

to help with basc and chomps + zard y

[bronze ether]

team does not appreciate basc too much

bascu is pretty annoying in endgame

unless maus even survives till endgame

which is not too likely

but sini doesnt hit shit like venusaur

which hits pretty hard against floette even when +1

sini is also pretty nice endgame

[plain kestrel]

Do you have a rotom spread

I can give you mine

[bronze ether]

whats urs looking like

mines pretty phy bulky

[plain kestrel]

My guy has leftovers but you can run sitrus

[plain kestrel]

The stat points are

Max go

148 defence

143 spdef

And you can go higher spdef

But this lives cc from sneasler, you burn it and live another cc

If you’re sitrus you live 2 ccs so if you miss first wisp you can get a next

You die to modest 10 (or max timid) solar beam from zard 6% of the time

So one roll

And like he just burns all the physical threats

And lives at least one attack from them like claw from chomp, kowtow, sneasler, u get the point

[bronze ether]

maybe i need more spdef

[plain kestrel]

Need some spdef

[bronze ether]

but i reckon i can js swap like sini into that

[plain kestrel]

He gets goobed to solar beam

[bronze ether]

i got sneasler and sini as a swap for that

they would be pretty good swap into charizard

[plain kestrel]

You also don’t mind hitting it with volt switch tho

Like yea that’s good too

[bronze ether]

ooo yea

[plain kestrel]

But living beam and doing half to zard

[bronze ether]

ok ill put in more spdef

[plain kestrel]

Take the hit bring in the chomp

[bronze ether]

whats ur nature

for this

[plain kestrel]

+spdef

To hit the stat bump

143

The rest you can do whatever

I have 10 evs in spatk and rest in speed but those evs are whatever

You can add more bulk

Like you can have a bigger guarantee vs zard if you want to

[nova inlet]

I run 19 spdf with max hp and zard 2 shots

Do I need more spdf

[plain kestrel]

Are you calm nature

[nova inlet]

Ye

Forgot to put that in oops

[plain kestrel]

You have enough probably

Most zards aren’t max modest

[nova inlet]

Alr

[bronze ether]

should i calc for rotom

to live

aero 252+ rockslide + 76+ zard y solar beam

is it possible

[plain kestrel]

It won’t be able to

Maybe with friend guard but atp just redirect the solar beam and take the rock slide

[bronze ether]

yea

good call

lmao

[plain kestrel]

You’d be in a bad spot if you have to

Check it with friend guard tho

I doubt you’ll live that double up

[bronze ether]

ok i got this so far

[plain kestrel]

Unless the rock slide guy is burnt

[bronze ether]

i probably could with sitrus and a bit more bulk

[plain kestrel]

Sitrus is preferred

[bronze ether]

sini is on sitrus

[plain kestrel]

I had leftovers because my sitrus was on my perish user

You can run Colbur occa kasib on sini tho

[bronze ether]

32/24+ lives a fully boosted 150 adaptability last respects

lowk fw that

all i needed was 1 more ev investment

[bronze ether]

ill prob run that

[plain kestrel]

24+ or just 24

[bronze ether]

o mb

js 24

[plain kestrel]

Ok light

Put sitrus on it

And like depending on what opps you struggle into the most with sini

Put a berry on it

I have Colbur because ligament

Kingambit

[bronze ether]

ligament

[plain kestrel]

Yes ligament the scariest pokeman

[bronze ether]

colbur or kalsib

i think ill throw on kasib

for annoying basculegion matchups?

[cunning tinsel]

https://pokepast.es/02dcdb73d16d98a6

[hoary swift]

can someone rate my team. I hit mb3 (not that that is anything crazy) but feel like it’s good but it can be taken further

[heavy hatch]

Any suggestions or recommendations ?

[cunning tinsel]

I think I need a alt mega but don't know which any suggestions are helpful

[sweet maple]

only 4 pokemon with protect in a format with no tera ghost is pretty risky

and you have no ghost types

ur team is very prone to fake out

on the plus side

ur fundementals are amazing

reliable speed control

good bulk to pivot around

[hoary swift]

i was thinking of swapping chomp for excadrill and kingambit for sinis

[sweet maple]

consistent damage

[sweet maple]

id say replace corviknight for aerodactyl

ur team is very prone to double fake out balance teams

[hoary swift]

wb tsareena?

[sweet maple]

fargiraf is js better

u could replace mega delphox for fargiraf and go for a sand trickroom tailwind team

invest speed in ttar and gambit

that could work

[spiral robin]

tried building a gallade team but couldnt think of much on the fly this is the second version im testing so far but any input would be appreciated https://pokepast.es/21a522c2a8f179f5

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[daring fable]

Thoughts on the Charizard X team that I built?
https://pokepast.es/9034ae56d4736f63

[vagrant vigil]

we might be cooking too close to the sun... E-terrain gimmick team is actually pulling some results, someone suggested gravity sableye and it actually deletes a lot of stuff. 6th slot is still the only part I'm struggling with, Meowscarada felt too frail, Meganium feels ok but not great (maybe a bulky set will be better). The other 5 genuinely feel like a nice core, most of the time I'm leading sable + jolt with pelliper arch in the back, but gambit is great for some matchups.
https://pokepast.es/e47bb0e028b389d0
glimmora is currently the biggest issue, it deals 60-80% to almost everyone. weather ball and arch onetap it, but if tailwind isnt up it'll do some big damage, and you have to rely on it not protecting

[weak tusk]

I would say the one you need to chg is ttar, or gambit... instead of delphox. your team is very physical in atk...
and you don't need 2 4x fighting weaknesses...
and since you have bulk up corvi, you can have eerie impulse on rotom.

[ripe turret]

generally speaking your mons/sets look good, but your EVs can be improved

washtom should be bulked out and corv more on the special side, and scarf chomp should be adamant

jolly doesn't matter except for scarf chomp mirrors and neither side can ohko with dclaw anyways

[ripe turret]

this is inaccurate, four protects is perfectly fine especially when one of the non-protect mons passively punishes fake out and the other is bulky enough to not care

[ripe turret]

I'd consider white herb on gallade here unless black belt has some calc, I don't use gallade at all so I'm not too sure on that but if you use gallade often you'd probably know

other than that run liquidation>waterfall on basc and go max/max since you're sash, the spread you're using seems to be for swift swim mystic water

on the flip side you want to be bulking out whims, living wingbeat from aero should be your target

[ripe turret]

generally speaking zardx appreciates more supportive partners, ceruledge is the most replaceable mon here at a quick glance

I don't think you super need aero here either since you already have a scarfer and two mons capable of boosting speed, I'd run incin + sini in those slots just to help get up ddances more efficiently

TR can also be a secondary option with sylv

[ripe turret]

yeah imma be honest jolt is not doing anything here, the gimmick doesn't seem worth it compared to just running basc

you'd also rather have rain dance on sab and weather ball meganium for fire coverage

and a dragon move on arch

don't think aura sphere is particularly needed or useful when you can just electro shot for better results

[sonic anvil]

https://pokepast.es/ea52523ff5588c01
Hey this is a team I've been building throughout season M-2 and I got a 3-3 record on my first tournament with it. This is the latest version of the team, and I hope there's stuff I can improve upon it that I've missed

[heavy hatch]

This looks interesting !!

[bronze ether]

@plain kestrel https://pokepast.es/db7fa0b81dfdeb73 u were right maushold felt like a lil too much so i threw on upper hand talon

whimsicott is a bit more annoying without maus tho

[weak tusk]

I can't see how this team act as a snow team...except the aurora.
yeah you have a scarf arcanine but no tw no tr...let's say opposing aero doesn't flinch and set up tw, not many method you can use against zard y...
and your arcanine is not using rock slide, which means all the atk can be redirected.
I can't see the heal pulse and the eerie spell functioning often...

[weak tusk]

why not sharp beak dual wing if you are going to kill whim which have a good chance holding sash?

and upper hand do not stop encore

[heavy hatch]

i tried making a psyspam team with mega delphox and its super shaky at best, any suggestions to fix it or sshould i just move on ?
https://pokepast.es/09bf1f54f44abdcf

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[bronze ether]

Acrobatics has 100% accuracy

Id rather have to 2 turn that miss 10% of the time

Rotom is alr missing like 50% of the time

Also if im bringing talon

The game is usually gonna depend heavily on turn 1

Missing a dual wingbeat turn 1 and sneasler wrecking my team is not that fun

[weak tusk]

I would like Alakazam with focus blast if you either the way need terrain and gravity

[heavy hatch]

instead of delphox? and rest of the team remains the same ?

[weak tusk]

you don't need protect on meowstic, give him rain dance / sunny day
why don't meowscar use scarf or sash? I think she is replaceable though, like a feint kleavor or...whatever
you are having gravity, give milotic blizzard? gunk shot snealser?

[sweet maple]

The thing isnt about bulk im talking about double fake out setup teams

[spiral robin]

gotcha thanks, do u think basc should just be switched out for max speed i tried to pick a spread that would potentially help for both during tr and tw but i dunno

do u think any mons needed replaced or nah

[heavy hatch]

oh yeah, really awesome ideas !! It seems like im not using gravity to the fullest !! Awesome suggestions and i'll update the team and see. Thanks a ton 🙂 That was really helpful 🙂

[cunning tinsel]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2618358135

Thought I won then ran into the only god damn rock tomb sneasler on ladder

[heavy hatch]

damn !!

[sleek laurel]

!replays

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Please take a moment to review the rules of the competitive section: #1373406929317269624 message

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[sleek laurel]

Also, this channel is just for team review, replay review (even [or rather only] for the cases listed above) should go in #comp-general lol

Just for the record, I can see you're newer to the server lol

[weak tusk]

what a fancy name, stallsun
leech seed harvest/ synthesis 2/3 hp under the sun?

[cunning tinsel]

I did not know that I'll be careful next time

[sleek laurel]

Don't fret it, we've all joined some day roo lol

[spiral robin]

this is where im at after a couple changes, ended up keeping waterfall over liquid on basc just for hax potential for now but https://pokepast.es/58b5b1d228b1ab4c

[spiral robin]

feel like the most annoying thing is opposing sun

[daring fable]

You got it sir

[daring fable]

Also what items should I give Incin and Sini

[ripe turret]

sitrus incin and either kasib or colbur sini

[ripe turret]

no setup mon is really threatening to this team, the only real one is mfloe and between encore phox, corv, and all the physical attackers the mu is fine

especially since neither incin nor sneasler like seeing scarf chomp

[daring fable]

I keep Sylveon as is right?

[sonic anvil]

I thing I do wanna have is speed control yet I don't know where to start there.
And for hisuian Arcanine I was so focused on using rock head to abuse recoil moves to consider rock slide.
Healing pulse has come in clutch a couple of times but not much else, at least I can get damage done with eerie spell.
Thanks for the feedback, I'll do my best to fix those problems.

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