VGC Rates

[light nebula]

this is the first time im trying baile i know its not great but i plan on switching out for ghost if it REALLY sucks

i actually have been considering kommo o in case drag doesnt work

[pearl valley]

another thing is that you should have at least 1 fake out or follow me user for this reg

every single good team has 1 of those

[ripe turret]

well

[light nebula]

scrafty

[ripe turret]

there is a fake out

lol

but also that's not necessarily true

[pearl valley]

its not that good though

[light nebula]

not as lead

[pearl valley]

Name 1 top team that doesn’t have fake out or follow me

[ripe turret]

but yeah what do you really do against ttar tbh

[pearl valley]

/rage powder

[light nebula]

scrafty

[pearl valley]

”why is the ttar flying”

[ripe turret]

like ok

you can make volc + ori work

but the snow doesn't really add anything to the team other than giving you weather

and veil

[pearl valley]

and stupid strats

[ripe turret]

._.

[pearl valley]

with snow cloak

[light nebula]

that was kinda the issue i found with my last team, was running rain and i felt like i never had a good time to bring volcarona back in after switching to pelipper

the rain kinda worked against volc

but that one had bug buzz because of that

https://pokepast.es/5674ceb241e446d3

team in question

[pearl valley]

this is actually like a bit better

[ripe turret]

I think sand is the best weather to run with volc tbh

[light nebula]

ceruledge was too frail to really take much damage, especially if ori got targeted during the turn

and gyarados had SERIOUS 4 move syndrome

[ripe turret]

if you want to run a double dance team I'd recommend doing it with like

[light nebula]

but yeah the rain mode worked pretty well

[ripe turret]

sand psyspam

tbh

[light nebula]

i think i mentioned earlier but if drag ends up being too frail i had kommo o in mind

[ripe turret]

dragapult isn't really the problem on the team though

[pearl valley]

if you wanna use dancer shenanigans this is really the only viable team https://pokepast.es/673f488ac5cde42a

[ripe turret]

well I would stay away from definitives

[pearl valley]

and that viability is very questionable

[ripe turret]

and that team definitely looks a little

sus

[pearl valley]

it got 42nd place at miluakee

[ripe turret]

like ok it got a result, sure

[light nebula]

thats the milwauke team i heard about isnt it

it went like 7-2 right?

[ripe turret]

but that doesn't mean it's the best or even good, a lot of teams can succeed just based on the meta and stuff

but yeah

also

[light nebula]

this is a personal thing but i also dont exactly like copying samples/tour teams as much as taking inspo from them and trying my own thing

[ripe turret]

you're not running rev dance oricorio?

[pearl valley]

hey you’re like me

[light nebula]

i tried it but i found more use in air slash

but that was with sensu so idk

havent actually played any games with baile yet

but i feel like i already have the fire stab if im running baile because of fiery dance

[pearl valley]

I lost to a pompom oricorio, iirc it had quaquaval and i think blursa?

[light nebula]

oh shit yeah aqua step is a dance

[ripe turret]

ok but tldr team needs to be changed a lot

[pearl valley]

you can also run kommo-o

clangorous soul is a dance right

right

[light nebula]

it is

[ripe turret]

too many common weaknesses and it's really gimmicky

[pearl valley]

Oh shit it isnt

[ripe turret]

the problem with komo-o is now you don't really have a way through fairy blast volc

[light nebula]

no it definitely is

[ripe turret]

and like

fairy blast volc + ttar is a common pairing

it's highkey like a 90-10 mu

[pearl valley]

it is wow

[light nebula]

yuh

thats what gave me the idea about kommo o

[pearl valley]

i mean there is tera fire

[light nebula]

that was my plan with kommo o

tera fire

[pearl valley]

My advice would be play around with the team a bit and see what works for you

this is the gimmick reg after all

[ripe turret]

fairy blast volc + ttar is what I should've said

and that's just two mons

[pearl valley]

aura sphere ohkos ttar and rock slide will never ohko

[ripe turret]

(people are running aura sphere kommo-o? I thought it tera fire flamethrower)

[light nebula]

ive seen a few sphere kommo o

[ripe turret]

ok but you get my point right

very difficult mu

[light nebula]

yeah

[pearl valley]

look at marco’s team

[ripe turret]

and if you run aura sphere you can't damage volc

so

back to square 1 kinda

[light nebula]

doesnt kommo o get scale shot

hows that

[ripe turret]

uhhh

clangorous soul exists

err wait

clanging scales

same thing

[light nebula]

forgor about clanging scales LMAO

that doesnt give speed buff tho

[pearl valley]

i think gholdengo/kingambit could help with these matchups a little

or blursa

[light nebula]

i actually had gholdengo in mind before i made the team

ill give that a shot

so i know make it rain and shadow ball are must haves

i dont think i need plot because im probably gonna be baton passing the buffs to gholdengo

protect

[pearl valley]

power gem for volcarona

Slap the water tera on

[light nebula]

specs/scarf?

little more oomph

or would not being choice locked be better

[pearl valley]

Scarf is underrated imo

And it outspeeds volcarona too

[light nebula]

i just noticed i also have safety goggles free

[pearl valley]

But dont expect this team to be in the top 500 or win a regionals lol

[light nebula]

keep in mind gholdengo is getting quiver dance buffs so ill prob still have speed advantage without scarf

[light nebula]

oh dont worry i dont LOL

i more just wanna dick around but if i can optimize what ive already got thats the goal

i wanted to say that earlier but couldnt find an opportunity LOL

https://pokepast.es/bad386f9bec2c56c

heres what ive got now

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[light nebula]

gave ninetales tera water and snow warning

switched out abomasnow for gholdengo

[sturdy pecan]

why does ghold have safety

doesnt good as gold block all

is it for sandstorm and hail?

[light nebula]

i forgot about

good as gold

im a dipshit

thats the reason LMFAO

thats def better on ori ngl hold on

[light nebula]

im ngl this team just aint it

but i did have an idea for my other team for more ori synergy

[sleek laurel]

Sandstorm is blocked by the Steel-typing and Hail no longer damages btw

Lol

[hardy mountain]

hey

[sleek laurel]

Do share when it’s done

Hi

[hardy mountain]

i have a team which im not sure if i should change some pokemon or change moves/tera and that

could u help me

[sleek laurel]

Share away

[hardy mountain]

its for stuttgart this month, reg H

[sleek laurel]

Send the paste

Reg H might be easier for me to rate than F atm

[hardy mountain]

yep just gimme a sec

[sleek laurel]

Ait

[hardy mountain]

https://pokepast.es/c63563bf64e71cbd

i played with it in gdansk but it didnt go too well, looking to get a better score at stuttgart

[sleek laurel]

I don’t see any issues at all, maybe like

[hardy mountain]

im also a senior so theres a bit more trick room teams

[sleek laurel]

Tailwind > Wide Guard and Tera Ghost > Stellar on Pelipper are two things you can consider, both are super optional tho

Ok then probably not necessary

If you think you’re facing Trick Room then keep Wide Guard

I actually like Stellar because the damage output feels better with as much support as you have

I think the team is perfect, what do you struggle with?

[hardy mountain]

yeah, wide guard has helped me a bit, i was thinking about tailwind on pelipper since i can just outspeed and get rid of trick room setters, but havent tested it out yet

[sleek laurel]

You can just kill TR setters anyway

TR has negative priority as a move

[hardy mountain]

some of the games i've been losing are torkoal/hatterene indeedee and some other trick room teams

it might jsut be a skill issue but i went here just incase

[sleek laurel]

For this matchup what I’d do is bring Pelipper in the back

And do like

The thing is you don’t really have two good mons to lead with lmao

[hardy mountain]

😄

[sleek laurel]

You really want Incin Arch Peli Sinistcha

Probably Incin Arch lead and switch to Pelipper if needed but the issue is you really only wanna lead Incin out of these

But yea that feels like the best line

[hardy mountain]

one thing i've been doing is bringing ape into every game, mostly like incin ape arch peli/sinistcha ape arch peli

[sleek laurel]

That feels fine too but idk if I’d do that into the hard room matchup

You really just dish out the damage with Arch + Peli in the rain and use Incin to take hits, try to get one early knockout against the Indeedee Hatterene and vibe from there

You can also consider Snarl > Flash Cannon on Arch

But it depends on whether you’ve been clicking Flash Cannon enough

[hardy mountain]

also the grass tera on incin, is that good or should i use bug tera or ghost tera? bug resists fighting and other types which is good but grass does the same thing against fighting type

[sleek laurel]

Grass is good without Safety Goggles

You need some way around Amoonguss

[hardy mountain]

yeah i click it like 50% of the time

[sleek laurel]

Then keep it as is

[hardy mountain]

only thing i got against amoonguss is maushold safety goggles, sinistcha and the grass tera on arch and incin

and probably with maushold just use follow me so if amoonguss tries to spore lets say ape it just gets redirected

[sleek laurel]

Thats enough counterplay yea

That’s what you gotta do yea lol

Feels like a nerves issue more than anything else tbh

You got your theory right

[hardy mountain]

i think the team is good but i wasnt sure if there needed to be changes with pokemon or the moves or whatever, and yeah mostly its just a skill issue

[sleek laurel]

More like a nerves issue cause you seem to know line theory asw

But team looks fine, gl at stuttgart

Come back regional champion now

[hardy mountain]

ty 😄

[sleek laurel]

👍

[hardy mountain]

so jsut 1 more thing, ill try out snarl instead of flash cannon for a couple of games on showdown but other than that the team is good?

[sleek laurel]

Yea

It’s a matter of preference, try both

[hardy mountain]

alright, thank you so much 😄

[sleek laurel]

Np!

[hardy mountain]

[hardy mountain]

yo can i ask like 1 more question

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2473946588 ik i played bad but how do i beat that if i ever come across that in the future 😭

[light nebula]

oh i meant to but i forgot about it LMAO

swapped out gyarados for dukc

i lose out on intimidate unfortunately but i like that this has less 4 move syndrome and more ori synergy

(aqua step counts as a dance)

and i dont lose out on taunt

[light nebula]

i can probably work around this by changing my baton pass recipient

[sturdy pecan]

oh

[light nebula]

messed with the set a little bit

i gave oricorio the amulet because i thing SD and moxie kinda cancel out any intimidate drops

where oris main goal is to pass buffs around and it cant do that as well if its affected by intimidate

i swapped ori and quaquavals terqa types so ori still has possible spore immunity

i might change quaqs again idk just yet

[lavish nexus]

https://pokepast.es/85a01e89ee28ca6f
i've sent a similar set before, but this has quite a few changes

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[pearl valley]

ykw maybe i should do a regional someday

i must redeem dragapult and save the meta from absolute domination of that one team

[forest cipher]

https://pokepast.es/207e5555e0a443eb
not too sure abt support pokemon, ground coverage also sucks

[jade wren]

https://pokepast.es/93f204e5158b83d0 uhh i need help, i think i lack fire type coverage, other than earth power and tera blast on indeedee

[sturdy pecan]

https://pokepast.es/6fb75235d5b3a8d4

need help on some sets mybe?

[lavish nexus]

loses pretty heavily to mental herb farigaraf, try have more coverage for tr and drop the double taunt, just decide if you need prankster taunt or non prankster

[lavish nexus]

extremely offensive with no real way to support each mon, try find pairings of mons that work together well instead of just raw damage, something like a quiver dance volc, rotational pieces, or redirection

[lavish nexus]

try rilla over incin, you use a few priority moves on the team so psy terrain will be an issue

[jade wren]

What about switching protect for quiver dance on volcarona, and making the indeedee more support?

[lavish nexus]

indeedee doesn't seem to be doing much other than imprison tr, but there's other ways to deny tr that would work better, try something like fake out mons

[fierce flame]

https://pokepast.es/50d06c0b3878e6a8

Can someone help me work on this reg F team

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[lavish nexus]

you're running a balance corr but all your offensive threats are really frail, also 4/6 of your mons get ohkoed by a surging strikes, also really not helped by the fact you only have two protects, try something with more bulk like bolt

[fierce flame]

Hmm

Do I really need torn here?

Tbf Incin and Rilla have fake out so that's pseudo protect but yeah

I actually think Raging Bolt can go crazy with Chi-Yu

[hot hamlet]

https://pokepast.es/0e8abc24b30ed6da

initially just wanted something for my tr team to combat weathers (mainly sun), but ended up trying a half rain team like this since they weren't too fast themselves and could finish off opponents when tr wears off. thoughts?

[lavish nexus]

try torn and lando, gives more offensive pressure and better matchup into sun teams

replacing pelliper and ursa

[pearl valley]

its

literally a rain team

pelipper could run tera ground

[lavish nexus]

https://pokepast.es/846adca2f6783257
made the crown team more offensive, now i have the issue of not being able to control the board as well, wondering about getting a taunt on there but can't seem to find where one would go

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[sturdy pecan]

oh ok thx

[maiden sigil]

Can someone please look at my team, I'm not sure about it and someone else's input could be helpful. Thanks.(https://pokepast.es/17a54845166e8cc6)

[drifting onyx]

Drum Beating (Gen 9)

Has a 100% chance to lower the target's Speed by 1 stage.

Type

Grass

Category

Physical

Power

80

Accuracy

100

PP

10 (16)

Priority

0

Target

Any adjacent

Flags

• Can be copied by Mirror Move.
• Blocked by protection moves.

[ivory linden]

Huh

Forgot rilla had a signature move icl

[uncut harness]

k guys

this is the team i want to build around for the global challenge

https://pokepast.es/be5293f9c947b3ad

[lavish nexus]

air balloon is so easy to pop in doubles that it's really not a good idea, also raichu only gets used for it's ability so here it's just worse than incin, also drum beating off such a low speed rilla doesn't actually do very much

[lavish nexus]

perish trap becomes very hard to pull off with the current balance meta and prevalence of gholdengo

[frank hazel]

https://pokepast.es/8ec19bf41f380e59 ddozo tatsu team for reg H

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[vagrant orchid]

I made my first reg f team
https://pokepast.es/6f398c61461e0006

[lavish nexus]

sleep talk isn't really useful at all, since you're just gambling what move you use, you'd prefer to run protect, also outrage is pretty gambley

[wooden terrace]

https://pokepast.es/e5f3afddfc521c0a This is the first team I make alone and I´m looking for advice for the EVs, team made for Reg H. Here I add a replay of the Team https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2475417597-ugpww7x0vcguibtlamadcxt3phk1glipw

[fierce flame]

https://pokepast.es/ec4a55ef452cc289

Thoughts?

[main cloud]

Seems like ur team is way too offensive to utilize parish trap imo

[fierce flame]

Not to mention, the team only has one perish trap setter

And it's specs Flutter

[frank hazel]

https://pokepast.es/95d956828d3f637d updated ddozo team

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[vagrant orchid]

I only added it as an extra mode for this team incase there's a specific situation where I can't use offense

[lavish nexus]

you're running hyper offense with mons that really don't like playing in that style, like gothitelle and sinistcha, try run incin/rilla pairings with it and also you need to set your teras

[lavish nexus]

you're running mausape but not beat up, try add it to maus, gholdengo wants shadow ball even if ape is already running rage fist, and you could really do with a fake out rilla set rather than band, which actually dragonite could really do with using

[lavish nexus]

works better than your last one, my only recommendation is try out leftovers bolt with calm mind over thunder bolt, it requires better play but can win more games if done well

on a more balance team, it works well as apposed to lorb

[fierce flame]

Cm Raging Bolt takes forever to set up

[lavish nexus]

you only need to click it once to be better than lorb

[fierce flame]

Eh ig

[lavish nexus]

plus with double fake out and fast oppressive mons, you can get one off

[fierce flame]

Tbh tho not having tbolt can make for nasty mind games on occasion

[fierce flame]

True

[lavish nexus]

it depends on your play style really

id recommend trying it out and see which you prefer

they're both viable, just whichever one you work best with

[fierce flame]

True I'll try out both

[lavish nexus]

works well, my only note is wood hammer over hhp, since you have no other high damage grass move and dragonite already has a ground coverage move

[vagrant orchid]

Okay

[royal kernel]

https://pokepast.es/a170020237a5f0e5

reg f, i feel like its a must having a fake out but idk what i could change and if it is even worth it since i have psychic terrain

[royal kernel]

and any other suggestions are welcome too

[main cloud]

No expanding force users?

[royal kernel]

i initially had it on a cresselia but it felt redundant having cresselia and indeedee and honestly after i removed it i forgot

[uncut harness]

yeah true but i didn’t want to try perish trap

wanted to try and make a team with Scrafty

[lavish nexus]

it's got some nice ideas but a bit lacking, i'd recommend trying out an iron crown team, it means you get to rotate more and plays into the meta quite well, best choice imo is to change lando t for crown, also run trick room and rocky helmet on indeedee

[royal kernel]

i was thinking bout iron crown to get to use boosted expanding force, but idk i feel like lando t fits well in my team

[royal kernel]

drop protect for tr?

[lavish nexus]

it's hard to really build around scrafty since its main use is support, so it's not really used as the main piece of a team

[royal kernel]

cause i thought indeedee as a kind of bulky redirector

[lavish nexus]

https://pokepast.es/bf9a36a1321befd5
this is the team i run, you can use it for reference for building yours but i wouldn't recommend just coping it outright

[lavish nexus]

it can be run as that still with the two changes, you don't need protect as much on a bulky mon and rocky helmet is able to do half of urshifu rapids health if it redirects a surging strikes

[royal kernel]

fr i forgot abt surging strikes hitting 3 times

but i dont feel like tr (even just being a counter play to other tr) works well here

[lavish nexus]

you can use it to counter hyper offense tw

[royal kernel]

yeah fr

[uncut harness]

ig but still want to try but i do need help

[lavish nexus]

https://pokepast.es/3bf1cd02eca4f0d9
not really feeling ogerpon here, wondering about anything else i could run instead
i ran it for the type coverage and encore, but the fire typing goes against the small rain core and doesn't have as much synergy as the others

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[royal kernel]

maybe unburden psychic seed sneasler like mine would fit well on ur team

[royal kernel]

if u want to try it out u can copy mine

[royal kernel]

or maybe even chien pao, but then u'd have to give it focus sash and use another item in tornadus

[ivory linden]

https://pokepast.es/dce6f0058245cc97 i know posting an incomplete team is against the rules, but im genuinely lost as to what i need to make my EV's or if my tean structure is even decent

[light nebula]

found a fun way to handle trick room

any suggestions?

considering replacing encore with disable

how does one EV sableye

almost forgot to ask the actual question i had

[ivory linden]

Why are you scarfed prankster

[ripe turret]

probably for trick

honestly though just run like

taunt

or something

disable maybe

because encore does the same thing as scarf trick

[light nebula]

i switched encore for taunt

the idea is to choice trick and helping hand and/or taunt

ive realized the problem

[ivory linden]

You dont

You dont need a choice scarf if you're prankster

You have priority

[light nebula]

its not for me

choice tricking their tr gives them a speed debuff inside and forces them to either tr again (turning it off) or switch out

[ripe turret]

encore does the same thing

also scarf lets them keep the move they locked into

[light nebula]

yeah but its less funny and just forces them to switch

[light nebula]

thats why i switched encore for taunt

[ivory linden]

Forcing them to switch is still huge

Brcause then you can double into whatever they go too for free

[ripe turret]

I misworded it, scarf doesn't force them to TR again

it just locks them into whatever move they selected that turn

so if it was follow me or an attacking move or something, that's what they will be scarfed into

so in that case encore is strictly better than scarf trick

[light nebula]

which means they cant tr

[ivory linden]

Encore does that too

[light nebula]

u guys are right actually

what should i do for item in that case

lagging tail?

[ripe turret]

you could try it

since sableye doesn't really care about prankster taunt

[light nebula]

yeah dark type

[ripe turret]

I think you also want the combination of encore + disable somewhere

because locking a mon into struggle is really huge

[light nebula]

might do HH for disable

[ripe turret]

yeah idt you need helping hand here

[light nebula]

i want rain dance because i switched out pelipper for this

[ripe turret]

or rain dance unless it's a team specific thing

ah ok

[light nebula]

this is what i got now

anything else i can swap? tera type?

[ivory linden]

Pretty sure you want to stay ghost but i doubt it matters too much

Because you arent really teraing sableye

[ripe turret]

yeah tera doesn't really matter on sableye

[ivory linden]

https://pokepast.es/f46ee62af4f0def6 repost

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[ivory linden]

Im not sure what the hell im doing

Ninetales feels extremely bad but it feels more like an issue with how passive my moveset is then anything

I might just stick to samples

[light nebula]

part of teambuilding is trial and error

do not feel bad if u dont know what youre doing because eventually you will learn what youre doing and grow

second

i do think youre right by tales looking passive

i would recommend moving encore to torn since prankster

switch out snny day because you have ninetales

[ripe turret]

ninetales is pretty bad here

I don't think you need a drought user tbh

tornadus is fine by itself

also feels like you're leaning a little too heavily into sun

I think you can probably just replace ninetales with like

rilla

and run magnet/lorb bolt

or you could run leftovers cm

[ivory linden]

What does rillaboom run

In terms of items and moveset

[ripe turret]

just the standard av set

[ivory linden]

What does that mean

[ripe turret]

like the assault vest set

fake out, wood hammer, grassy glide, u-turn

the set is on smogon

[light nebula]

Rillaboom @ Assault Vest
Level: 50
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 252 HP / 148 Atk / 44 Def / 60 SpD / 4 Spe
Tera Type: Grass
Adamant Nature

• Fake Out
• Wood Hammer
• Grassy Glide
• U-turn

you can also tera fire

actually you probably should tera fire

[vocal skiff]

Do I just post my whole team to get it rated or is there a cleaner way to post it?

[light nebula]

upload it to pokepaste

and then paste that link

[vocal skiff]

https://pokepast.es/29e9bd3c5d5f285a

Interested to see what ya'll think of the team

[light nebula]

im sorry but dv isnt good anymore :(

oh wait gravity

nvm cook

[light nebula]

have you tried thunder instead of tbolt?

if youre clicking gravity the accuracy would make it pretty shnice

[hushed ruin]

https://pokepast.es/da39da0a7aa5701b

Reg H

[lavish nexus]

try specs flutter, you have so much rotation available that it being frailer won't matter much, also follow me on pon would be better since hearthflame has good damage output already so shouldn't be clicking helping hand

[lavish nexus]

since you're running max attack on rilla you should go with wood hammer over drain punch, also sitrus in a meta with CSR isn't a great pick

[lavish nexus]

everything here is quite frail aside from rilla, try maybe some redirection to allow your offensive threats to sweep, also you don't need to run priority on mid speed mons with 252 EVs

[unborn silo]

https://pokepast.es/8fa48b0a4fd3581c

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[lavish nexus]

covert cloak over mental herb would be good since fake out is far more common than prankster taunt, the tr mode with farig and iron hands doesn't work that well since the rest of your mons are fast, so they'd lose to mid speeds in tr though you could try incin and rilla instead to keep fake out and be able to control the board more

[unborn silo]

But if I remove iron hands I will quite lose an offense

[royal kernel]

https://pokepast.es/839b6ab0a0b38e5f repost

i feel like talonflame has been a little bit useless, idk if i should change its moves or item or if i should try another mon

[royal kernel]

or even if i should change other mons in the composition to try "fixing" talonflame

[lavish nexus]

you already have good offense, rn you just want better utility

[lavish nexus]

try sunny day torn

[royal kernel]

honestly idk if i should keep tw cause both flutter mane and sneasler can basically outspeed 99% mons due to their abilities

and everytime i set tw it feels like a wasted move

[lavish nexus]

https://pokepast.es/6d4464d7dfe544a0
edit of the last one, found something to go in place of ogerpon

[royal kernel]

wouldnt pelliper fit better than torn?

[lavish nexus]

torn has a better movepool and priority

[vocal skiff]

I’ll look into that

[vocal skiff]

Thanks for the feedback. I’ll look into those critiques

[vocal skiff]

Would you recommend something other than sitrus?

[lavish nexus]

could use goggles for the amoonguss matchup

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[light nebula]

https://pokepast.es/c48feeb7c9f34a13

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[light nebula]

im revisiting my first oricorio team

i dont exactly mean for a tr mode but im running it on indeedee as a way to counter it

[ivory linden]

Might as well do a trickroom mode

[ripe turret]

need a few set changes and stuff

setup volc needs protect, would also recommend leftovers over cloak unless you want to run the fairy blast set

I think I’d run revelation dance over air slash on ori, higher bp + it doesn’t miss already makes it a better choice in my eyes

krookodile is highkey worse incin

personally not a fan of specs arma as it makes you really inflexible and vulnerable to incin+rilla, I think a better choice would be either lorb or power herb meteor beam

indeedee does not want leftovers as it’s usually not going to get that much value out of it since you’re either getting ignored or doubled, also you definitely want some sort of attacking move on it over protect

not entirely sure what the torkoal set is doing, no real reason to be running lava plume and solar beam is a pretty risky click as it makes you completely useless if sun gets overwritten

I think you can just lean into making this team a HTR + dancer team since you already have a solid framework for that

[light nebula]

i was running lava plume to help activate flash fire on arma but i can definitely switch out solar beam

is there anything you reccomend?

[ripe turret]

I caught that, but lava plume is just such a weak attack that running eruption is just more worth it even if you don't activate flash fire

you can probably just run a charcoal set with eruption, heat wave, weather ball/earth power, and protect

[light nebula]

https://pokepast.es/f2f31116b43ee57c

how we looking?

i was hesitant for incineroar because thats a lot of fire types

and rock weakness

[ripe turret]

you could also try ursaluna-h

[light nebula]

thats the guts one?

[ripe turret]

yup

[light nebula]

i could give that a shot

[ripe turret]

something that can work with both modes

like give it some speed so it can function in tw

but also as an option against faster teams in TR

[light nebula]

more speed? or should that be good

it doesnt have to outspeed ori so im not worried about that

[ripe turret]

I would go one point less

and also invest way more in its attack

[ripe turret]

this is so it can underspeed base 60s like incin and farig

[light nebula]

i ended up taking them out of SpD

also i wasnt sure what to do for the 4th move so i put drain punch to try and keep it alive

ursa is more likely than not going to be with the tr mode though since the dancer core is pretty big on its own

so i could probably invest those speed evs somewhere else and try min speed right?

[ripe turret]

what are your moves

[light nebula]

facade protect headlong rush drain punch

from what i know thats pretty normal for ursa

i thought about earthquake but i didnt like the fact taht it hits teammates

[ripe turret]

you can try sub or sd

drain punch is pretty bad on ursa

[light nebula]

my stupid ass thought you meant self destruct for a sec LOL

i dont think ive seen swords dance before tho ill see how sub works

[ripe turret]

self destruct ursa 🥀

[ivory linden]

Yeah it doesnt need sd

Stab guts facade just hits everything hard as shit

[lavish nexus]

https://pokepast.es/7b87b2185ab959d2
trying something different with the team, any opinions?

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[ripe turret]

this looks pretty solid, I do have to ask what lorb is doing on bundle but everything else seems good

[lavish nexus]

makes it more fragile, but most people don't prioritise bundle

it also kills allot more

[mild girder]

Hey if anyone is here I need help making a team I have an idea but idk how to make a team for it

[lavish nexus]

screenshot to make life easier

[mild girder]

Hey is this where we get advice for teams and such??

[ripe turret]

I see

I actually like lorb a lot there then

since most lando actually run some bulk so it guarantees that as well

idt the noivern or chomp calcs really matter but the others look nice to have

[lavish nexus]

what you got?

[ivory linden]

What does noivern even do?

[ripe turret]

basically nothing

[ivory linden]

Yeah id assume so

Has a nice enough speed tier to probbably run specs but like

Why not use anything else at that point

[ivory linden]

https://pokepast.es/115b318e32e677b3 Wanted to do a team around double fake out + spore, but im realizing that its way harder to pull off in practice than i thought, + feels really hard to play if i mess up and let my opponent set up at ALL

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[ivory linden]

Also entirely shut down by indeedee

Which isnt good

[smoky egret]

https://pokepast.es/bafa4ce05d9f3701 I'd like to show off some of the shinies I've collected, but beyond that I don't have a clear vision for a team. Tornadus and Iron Moth are my rough attempts at adding strategy to the otherwise slapped-together team. I still feel like it's lacking synergy.

[lavish nexus]

knock off over throat chop
rilla over iron hands (terrain control)
cm bolt over lando (fits in better with amoonguss and gives you a good wallbreaker)

[ivory linden]

Is lando not a good wall breaker

[lavish nexus]

it gets ohkod by chien pao, which currently you have no counter for an opening of chien and water pon

[lavish nexus]

also you haven't set your tera for amoonguss or hands

[lavish nexus]

garchomp isn't very invested into speed so rock slide isn't a good set to be running, also why run rocky helmet if they won't be clicking physical moves into a rough skin user anyways
you can't even use parting shot because of av
thunder wave on gard doesn't do much
lucario will insta die to an urshifu, so setup isn't that good
you have literally no protects, so your positional game is really bad
moth is too stally to be useful with its lack of defensive EVs and lack of defense

[lavish nexus]

https://pokepast.es/4106b8c82ace01c6
wondering about fitting a follow me user, and pon doesn't fit the role very well for what i need it to do on the rest of the team

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[main cloud]

Indeedee doub terrain could be kinda fire Imo also some anti trickroom

[worldly cypress]

https://pokepast.es/7016d6a07103972b
Guys rate my team for REG F

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[frigid dome]

https://pokepast.es/a905452e18f94b48 tryna make a team for iron crown for reg F

[lavish nexus]

crowns best set is psyspam, try build around that rather than just putting it on a random balance core

[frigid dome]

Honestly forgot about that set

Havent seen crown too much

[lavish nexus]

this is reg h?
anyways, run pop bomb scope lense on maus, change protect over rain dance, last respects and aqua jet on basc, sitrus berry on rilla, weather ball over roost on pelliper and give it sash

[frigid dome]

Ye bc why u running sash on a bulky maus. Honestly confuses me

[worldly cypress]

I haven't used it much yet except for beat up for archa

[worldly cypress]

Thank you so much

[frigid dome]

If u playing reg F u can easily make small asjjstments

[lavish nexus]

it wouldn't run very well in reg h

if you are actually intended on using it for h id recommend starting a new one

[worldly cypress]

Its reg F

[frigid dome]

Any reccomended mons for crown psyspam btw?

[worldly cypress]

Just curious why should I run pop homb and scope lens on Maus when Its purpose is Beat up on archaludon?

Wouldn't it be better if I run - attack and 0 attack ivs so I do the least damage

[lavish nexus]

gives arch more defense, does less self damage, and more offensive

[lavish nexus]

with 100 attack EVs you do 21% to arch with pop bomb

it doesn't matter because the defence boosts cancel out all the damage maus does

[worldly cypress]

Thats huge...

[worldly cypress]

I see thanks!!

[lavish nexus]

not really in a meta where it can commonly get one shot

[worldly cypress]

Now you say it you have a point

[frigid dome]

Never have i ever ran psyspam

Ts comfusong

[worldly cypress]

Wait shouldn't I have loaded dice and not scope lens?

It can miss :<

[lavish nexus]

it's a 1% chance with lens

with loaded dice you average 7 hits

so lens is more consistent

[lavish nexus]

check lab maus for sets people have run before

[frigid dome]

Loaded dice doesnt boost pop bomb btw

[lavish nexus]

it does

[frigid dome]

The thing is loaded dice doesnt effect pop bomb. Pop bomb goes bassed off accuracy

[lavish nexus]

it makes it guarantee 4 hits

[worldly cypress]

It does

[frigid dome]

Well

Now we know

[lavish nexus]

fact check before saying stuff 🥀

[worldly cypress]

Okay

[frigid dome]

Psychic seed magician delphox trust

https://pokepast.es/397bfcf0c57de943

Whatcha think so far

[lavish nexus]

delphox is very gimmicky and dies instantly to urshifu
booster energy and volt switch contradict each other, run tera blast with either water or ground
fake out is also just useless in psy terrain
indeedee doesn't want protect if you're running imprison, either helping hand or gleam typically

[frigid dome]

Understood.

Honestly i like having fake out incase of rillas. I seen them to much against terrain

https://pokepast.es/614f2a6c4ba04686

Im trying ta

Ts

[merry plover]

https://pokepast.es/5b88bf99eda123dd

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[merry plover]

natdex doubles team i made without googling nth

[lavish nexus]

this is for vgc

wrong chat

[merry plover]

Mb

[sturdy pecan]

wheres legends z-a ou rate

[low wraith]

Yes I will make this as a showdown team I just need to know if I need to make any edits or not

[ripe turret]

very hard to know what to change without seeing moves, teras, EVs, etc.

https://pokepast.es/2af772b53c6daeb8 HTR feels like a borderline impossible mu with this team

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[frozen folio]

first vgc team in MONTHS https://pokepast.es/6aeae490fd7e4a0d How is this?

reg H

[lavish nexus]

ape is hard to set up with maus if it's running scarf
since you're running more balance you could use yawn ursa
you have no speed control, tw on dragonite can work

[lavish nexus]

https://pokepast.es/b5da8e17e887efba
wondering about the EV spreads

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[fierce flame]

https://pokepast.es/2d2952d20bb5cfdc

Reg J Koraidon + Csr

[frozen folio]

So TW Dragonite, bulk up ape, and yawn ursa. Do I keep LO

[uncut cargo]

https://pokepast.es/d3e0eb525d4fb7d8
Reg J

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[lethal bridge]

https://pokepast.es/6cd4d575cb34d53a
funny reg h glaceon snow team

[modest dune]

Generally when it comes to using Glaceon you're better off just using a Choice Specs and spamming blizzard rather than farming for slightly more dodges in snow (statistically it's not worth it to use bright powder, even Tyo realized this in reg F)

Also I would either use just glaceon or just Baxcalibur because having 3 ice types can make some matchups impossible

[lethal bridge]

yea baxcalibur was kinda just a last minute pick because i didn't know who else to add so im open to suggestions

is there any other set i could run on glaceon because i would like for her to be able to protect

i rarely ever bring baxcalibur and he ends up dying because i get too greedy with dragon dances lol

[loud hamlet]

proud of this set but i think it can use some work, all advice is welcomed https://pokepast.es/f96e76fde557e9e4

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[lavish nexus]

urshifu doesn't need clamulet because wicked blow crits
sucker punch on urshifu also gives more out of tr options
close combat isn't great on CIR since it likes having bulk
bolt can use thunderclap for out of tr
you currently have nothing for priority spam or imprison tr
cotton guard doesn't really do anything on smeargle
amoonguss should be level 50, i know it's for the speed tie but it doesn't matter in this case since amoonguss is immune to spore

[lavish nexus]

since you have volt switch for positioning you could run tera electric for more damage
incin could run safety goggles since rocky helmet won't proc much and you only have one other spore immunity

[fierce flame]

Is there any good spore user at all in reg J?

Other bonnet

Which I haven't even seen that much

[lavish nexus]

amoonguss is always a threat

[fierce flame]

I haven't seen one at all but alr

Better safe than sorry

[fierce flame]

Ran into an Amoonguss the first game of the day, you saved me lmao

[granite basin]

first and foremost you need 2 restricteds to have success in the format, rn you only have one, then outside of chi yu and to an extent torn none of your mons synergise that well with koraidon and its playstyle, whilst rilla and iron hands are good mons in themselves your better off using mons that further/better enable koraidon's abilities.

Porygon-2 is just bad in the tier, so I would first drop that for your restricted, you have a couple options for a second restricted, if you want a trick room setter in the same vein as p2 then I'd go lunala, or you could go calyrex-s and lean more towards an all out offensive playstyle. depending on which you decide on kind of decides how you replace torn and hands, but allprobably need to go. Flutter mane is a good replacement for tornadus, whilst the other options are flexible for iron hands, but best is probably raigng bolt. then uturn koraidon is bad and you would be much better off with flame charge for speed contrl / consistent damage, and chi yu pretty much requires scarf otherwise it gets outsped and ohkoed by many threats in the meta

[granite basin]

the main thing is going either sash flutter or sash csr, I'd lean towards flutter for sure, but otherwise your team is vulnerable to opposing speed control (particularly tw) as your offensive pieces crumble easily or struggle into common tools on such teams (namely raging bolt being stifled by fake out) and your defensive tools can get overpowered, so having that lifeline to lean back on in the face of such threats can be life saving in many more cases then the damage buff of the type items

[granite basin]

4 defense pao is crucial for calcs for surging strikes, massively increases ur survival odds, other then that nothing jumps out at me except you could afford more bulk on raging bolt as calm mind and booster energy already amplify ur special attack enough

[fierce flame]

Alr fair

[sleek laurel]

It’s force set 50 for everyone

Even if you’re lower than 50

It sets you to 50

The “50 or lower” gimmick was removed a few gens ago, now everyone MUST be 50

[lavish nexus]

oh didn't realise they removed it

[silk scroll]

https://pokepast.es/1414f05fca65868c
Made this team based on the team Wolfey used to win the recent GC
Basic concept is simple, just blow things up with Eruption, but I changed a few things from the normal Sun teams
I run a really fast Incineroar, meant to outspeed most Rillaboom who usually sit at around 120 speed. It allows for me to have the faster Fake Out out of TR and the slower U-Turn inside of TR. Because I'm sacrificing a lot of bulk for this set, I'm running Assault Vest on Incin.
The team does have a bit of a weakness to opposing Incineroar, though. My only good answers to it are Lilligant with Close Combat and Ursaluna with Headlong Rush, both of which are weakend by Intimidate. I've developed a bit of tech for this. If I think my opponent will lead with Incin, I will lead with Torkoal and either Incineroar or Typlosion. Incin's intimidate will activate, which activates Torkoal's Eject Pack, which allows me to send Liligant or Ursaluna in without them getting an attack drop.
Other than that, standard Sun team

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[lethal bridge]

https://pokepast.es/8c40b902bd1fbb43
im still unsure about that last slot dragonite seemed good but idk

never melt ice has been pretty good in testing, increased blizzard damage but still lets me protect

dragonite def needs espeed lmao

[wispy spruce]

https://pokepast.es/15e1c20425618b65 opinions?

[ripe turret]

looks like you have too many support pieces

if you want to make a HTR team there are far better mons to be doing it with

[lavish nexus]

i get the idea with eject pack, but be wary of them keeping incin in the back until you're in tr and want to click eruption with torkoal
eq on ursa is still better over shadow claw since you can click it while you're protecting your other Mon

[lavish nexus]

problem with glaceon is it just kinda does the same job as ninetails, just with less support moves, since your only support is web buzz it's also not great to be running something with that speed stat
could also run tw on dragonite for predicting a defensive turn

[lavish nexus]

pop bomb is far too inconsistent without lens
set your grimsnarl tera
you only actually have one sweeper, if it dies you just kinda immediately lose
if you're running sash on maus then max out speed ivs since it lets it outspeeds allot of important threats that could make setting up harder
you have nothing that's immune to eq, not required but since it's your only sweeper that's important

[lethal bridge]

do you think maybe like murkrow/talonflame could work over dragonite, they're more supportive mons and better tailwind setters still immune to earthquake

[lavish nexus]

you could try loaded dice dragonite since it's a good tw setter

[lethal bridge]

https://pokepast.es/def26ec50f483a6b
how's this set, ice spinner is there for removing terrain making psyspam easier to deal with and haze is there because quiver dance volcarona makes me lose

[ripe turret]

run haze on prim instead of dnite

over blizzard

and run protect on dnite

you don’t really need another blizzard spammer

and dnite really likes protect

[lethal bridge]

it's good for baiting fire types to tera grass but yea i see where you're coming from

altho with open team sheets that becomes way less likely

[silk scroll]

i usually try to Overheat right away and get rid of the Eject Pack asap if they have Intimidate or anything that can lower my stats

[thin narwhal]

https://pokepast.es/c677f34ac98bef89
What do you guys think the last mon in my team should be

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[loud hamlet]

https://pokepast.es/675b71cdd102f2bd

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[uncut cargo]

https://pokepast.es/269cfb97379015c9 I changed some things
But I've never played raging bolt so Idk how to use it

[pearl valley]

You got torkoal already so no need for booster

also specs will lock you into protect, so you could go eject pack or something else

Rapid strike’s damage will get nerfed by the sun so go single strike

Wtf is bronzong for

You also should add another TR abuser like Indeedee-F + Hatterene or Ursaluna

The former you should replace bronzong with indeedee-f

[ivory linden]

https://pokepast.es/f12cae6271e85d37 wanted to try something weird with psyspam + tailwind over the usual TR sets

[untold relic]

https://pokepast.es/89b6c94d09d3851b

[granite basin]

first off av rilla, then a more balanced spread on lunala, then like life orb raging bolt 3 attacks

then no protect incin, and then just generally running more spread out investments is helpful

[pearl valley]

I think you should consider urshifu

Synergeizes well with pao and forms a FWG core with Incin/Heatran and Amoonguss

[frozen folio]

Yawb > protect?

[ripe turret]

it would be over vacuum wave

the leftovers set

[frozen folio]

hmmm then how do i run ape or maus? ran into item dup error

https://pokepast.es/db3f42474c082604 might have to rework some mons or replace some

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[jovial creek]

is this for reg f or h

[lavish nexus]

probably gholdengo, let's you switch between balance and hyper offense modes depending on what's needed

[lavish nexus]

cm flutter only really works on balance teams which yours isnt
ursh doesn't want av since it's bulk is already pretty bad
drop sunny day on whims, your fast offense mode uses both urshifu and whims so why use it
bronzong here doesn't have anything over something farig, and also urshifu can use ice spinner

[lavish nexus]

you could try cm bolt since you're running more balance, in which case swap to lorb koraidon
focus band with fake out is pretty counter intuitive
sitrus berry will often not proc because of calyrex, if you want bulk use the AV set

[lavish nexus]

why not try iron crown then, it's a good enough speed stat to abuse tw and is able to use special booster
torn would want to run weather than u turn
tera blast on tera stellar??
if you run the changes ive already mentioned then it'll be better to use ursh rapid since you can use rain dance and get good immediate damage, can ohko an incin with a sitrus

[ivory linden]

Tera stellar tera blast is something i got from a sample

All i did was change urshifu from scarf to band

Also, why do i need weather if i dont have any abusers at all?

[lavish nexus]

you don't really have any option against hyper offense, try run more offense
chien wants 4 def instead of 4 spd for the urshifu matchup
you generally just are very weak to ursh rapid, a rilla might be good

[lavish nexus]

rock slide isn't great for mid speeds
maus just has no item
encore maus can work quite well

[boreal sedge]

hi guys, i am new here and my english is not to good but i understand somethings
can you rate my team for regulation F
https://pokepast.es/c7da3470d5258527

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[thin narwhal]

Why dusknoir for trick room tho, p2 is generally better for the same roles

[boreal sedge]

I needed a WoW and Taunt user who could last a long time on the field, and since he's quite bulky, I thought of him.
It's not set up to tr, but if I need to, I would use it.
And I like him a lot kkkkkkkkk

[worldly cypress]

Emperor of Ice (Calyrex-Ice) @ Clear Amulet
Ability: As One (Glastrier)
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe

• Protect
• Close Combat
• Glacial Lance
• High Horsepower

KABOOOOM (Miraidon) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Hadron Engine
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature

• Electro Drift
• Draco Meteor
• Volt Switch
• Dazzling Gleam

Man or Bear? (Ursaluna-Bloodmoon) @ Life Orb
Ability: Mind's Eye
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe

• Blood Moon
• Earth Power
• Hyper Voice
• Moonblast

6'10 nonchalant (Farigiraf) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Armor Tail
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 244 HP / 132 Def / 132 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe

• Wish
• Ally Switch
• Trick Room
• Helping Hand

MIKE TYSON (Iron Hands) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Quark Drive
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 244 HP / 252 Atk / 12 SpD
Brave Nature

• Fake Out
• Close Combat
• Wild Charge
• Ice Punch

Incineroar @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Def / 160 SpD
Tera Type: Ghost
Careful Nature

• Fake Out
• Flare Blitz
• Knock Off
• Parting Shot

Guys rate my trickroom team for Reg J.

[feral horizon]

https://pokepast.es/c9e894ffa7f3870a This is my team, i´m new here in competitive pokemon, if someone can give some recommendations

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[frozen folio]

H i believe

[frozen folio]

I know but most of the items I have tried lead to the dupes clause which is why I am asking if I have to replace some mons

[jovial creek]

Could go sash Maushold and keep the rest

Go tect>rock slide btw

[frozen folio]

Uh....cant run safety goggles ape with safety incin. Should I run rocky helm incin?

Or rocjy helm amoongus and sitrus incin

[jovial creek]

Try cloak amoonguss and sitrus ape

[frozen folio]

What does cloak offer for amoongus if I may ask?)

[ripe turret]

blocks fake out

means you aren’t slowed down by incin/rilla

[ripe turret]

ok so a few things stand out to me here

you don’t need 4 different TR setters. dusclops and sinistcha are highly redundant here. I would suggest replacing them with AV hands and torkoal

chi-yu is a little strange here because there isn’t really a situation where you would want to bring it, your main gameplan is to TR so why would you ever bring a super fast mon? you can consider replacing it with something like band urshifu-s

conkeldurr is just ursa-h but worse, so I would heavily recommend changing that

psychic>shadow ball on indeedee and helping hand>protect

run life orb over twisted spoon on arma, just gives you more damage output

you can also consider hatt>hands here

and run pherb meteor beam arma

[boreal sedge]

what is hatt?

[boreal sedge]

I understand, thank you for the feedback.

[ripe turret]

hatterene

and np

[ripe turret]

if you want to make a TR team then miraidon is not the best restricted for that

to be honest this team could be changed to a soft TR/tailroom team pretty easily with the core you have right now

[ripe turret]

this is a solid team for reg h but not reg f

if you want a reg f team I’d suggest heading to the VGCPastes Repository (link pinned in the thread) or Victory Road on Smogon, there are plenty of well-made teams there already that you can just pick up and play with

[boreal sedge]

Np?

[ripe turret]

no problem

lol

[cinder glacier]

https://pokepast.es/98d19c40d8aafbad

[feral horizon]

thank you man

[safe imp]

Hello this is my laddering team can any1 point out any flaws before I start climbing? Thanks https://pokepast.es/8a4e0e4d90d6cb00

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[pearl valley]

Why earthquake dnite with no flying types

[uncut cargo]

https://pokepast.es/523e78e0674c8b6e
Reg J tr team

[safe imp]

I was going to replace that sorry 😭 I had no counters to archaludon so I tried equake but found out it 3HKOs anyways and rilla are on most team

[cinder glacier]

https://pokepast.es/98d19c40d8aafbad

I need some feedback on this team

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[pearl valley]

torkoal is butt booty without trick room

this team could greatly benefit from a mon like farigiraf

Venusaur is an interesting choice but it is a gimmicky one

you should consider chi yu

it helps out your team with its ability

[cinder glacier]

So replace Torkoal with Chi Yu

[pearl valley]

If you want to

Or run a trick room mode

[ripe turret]

yeah chi-yu over torkoal is a good idea here

[uncut harness]

https://pokepast.es/dd520b19330f2f50

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[granite basin]

wood hammer over protecct and then maybe a secondary special attacker over incin like ursaluna bloodmoon

[uncut harness]

ok ok I thought so

also question

[uncut harness]

What is the difference between bulky offensive teams vs HO

[granite basin]

bulky offense have defensive tools like incineroar or bulky redirectors, ho drops all defensive pieces for all out offense

[uncut harness]

ok for this team would u consider it a bulky offensive?

[granite basin]

that or set up spam depending on who you ask

[uncut harness]

ah ok ok

thanks

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[chilly jasper]

https://pokepast.es/4df1bbae96a4e307

[pearl valley]

You can’t use Thunderclap in Psychic Terrain

Raging bolt fits on a lot of teams but i don’t think it fits on this one

[worldly cypress]

Its supposed to be a lead. The main dude outside of tailwind. I nuke the hell out of people before setting up Trick Room and sometimes don't even need to.

[pearl valley]

hey yall im boutta enter week 1 of draft for reg f, this is my team https://pokepast.es/08c16780ba6d1295

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[pearl valley]

opponent team

i do have jumpluff raichu and torracat as well

if i can get in gastro against ursh rapid i basically just win

he can’t do nothing to it

however

i think he may run tera grass tera blast or a grass coverage move

so i wanna run tera flying

kommo o has soundproof to say fuck you to sylveon

but like

he may decide not to run hyper voice and run something like moonblast or dazzling gleam

Let me know what movesets or team switch ups i should run

[kind birch]

hi im new here can someone rate my team (vgc reg h) https://pokepast.es/ff5496f62317ed0c

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[safe imp]

u might want to run taunt on clefable to counter smeargle

And u can always use throat chop instead of sucker cuz u outspeed everyone in his lineup, and dengo nasty plot shenanigans, u kill tornadus anyways its not prankster

[safe imp]

tera grass is fine btw

idk why u would want flying if u get spore immunity

[fervent wraith]

https://pokepast.es/de330c7a48c867a6
Heya, wanting to try out a full pseudo legendary dragon team but want some notes if any1 has any. Ive been contemplating replacing someone with hydreigon to get rid of psychic type threats but idk who

[zealous steppe]

anybody got a pokepaste for a decent zekrom team?

[zealous steppe]

prob get rid of baxcalibur imo, hydreigon is another special attacker which you kinda need (you have 5 physical and ur only special is goodra who has relatively low spa (at least lower than hydreigon), id give specs to hydreigon and give ur goodra assault vest). In addition to this, it has levitate, meaning you can pair it with garchomp and garchomp can just earthquake spam while you do whatever with hydreigon

[loud hamlet]

https://pokepast.es/ef7e68fc066f4d69

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[fervent wraith]

Interesting, my mindset was that bax with dragon cheer vould wall break things with glaive rush and i do love it. But at the same time i do, like u said, need more than 1 special attacker, but garchomp and kommo o are almost irreplacable as sweepers, goodra has the best type and movepool, dragapult is key for bulk and salamence could provide speed control, although hes provided the least for the team in practice battles as i brought him the least. Either bax or salamence i think now, any other notes? On them at least

[pearl valley]

well he updated his team and its now a bit more interesting

im scared of toedscruel

i think i can just slot safety goggles on clef

But then i won’t have enough offense if i bring both clef and gastro

[uncut harness]

https://pokepast.es/046c85e237ae7ec4

This is what I have so far for Reg F

I might change rill for Maus for the annihilape but im not sure yet

or might change annihilape for smth else

[loud hamlet]

Why tera fighting for watershifu

[sand echo]

https://pokepast.es/6cceee8fac6d36be i havent played vgc in ages but is this team any good for reg f or

[uncut harness]

those aren’t the actual tera yet i’m just trying to see the chosen pokemon are good

[granite basin]

ape feels very out of place here, something like flutter or raging bolt would work a lot lot better

[granite basin]

not a huge fan of gambit here, maybe another incin punish like urshifu rapid or lando i?

[sand minnow]

Yo

[serene vigil]

hello

im new to competitive pokemon can someone tell me if i should switch my pokemon, items or tera type

[serene vigil]

https://pokepast.es/a22437eaf3ff110d

[drifting onyx]

Hey @serene vigil, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9doublesou team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1059655497587888158 instead.

[serene vigil]

https://pokepast.es/a22437eaf3ff110d

[vagrant orchid]

Which version is better I prefer the second one but I wanna know

[sleek laurel]

Doubles OU and VGC are two different metagames

You’re probably looking for the channel Chatot mentioned lol

(Hence why we have the auto message lmao)

[sleek laurel]

Second one looks better but both need a bit of reworking

Are you trying to go for Rain here?

[sleek laurel]

Yes, it’s very good for a base

I just don’t like Gambit yea, and the aforementioned Lando-I looks really juicy here, especially since you have only physical attackers as of now

(Amoonguss does not count)

And consider Wood Hammer over Horn Leech on Ogerpon-H if you feel like you need the damage, but it’s a case of try both

Horn Leech is usually suboptimal but in this team it looks fine tbh because you have a Chien-Pao and a LOT of explosive offense

So I think you’re fine tbh, just the Lando thing

[sleek laurel]

Oh, and make Dragonite Adamant, you’re going to be clicking Extreme Speed 75% of the time or more and the power difference helps a LOT

Sorry, that skipped through me lmao

If you feel like you need some more Speed then do Jolly Chien-Pao instead (not like Jolly Dnite helps too much with that anyway lmao)

But that one is just preference tbh

You probably also want Icy Wind on Flutter Mane if this is a Speed-boosting set, which could help with that as well (probably over Mystical Fire)

And also Protect over one of your Fairy moves because Booster Energy Flutter needs Protect

I’d keep Moonblast but you can try both

[vagrant orchid]

Yeah going for part rain

[serene vigil]

im new to competitive pokemon so i didn't know sorry

[sleek laurel]

Nah dw lol, I’m just letting you know

[serene vigil]

what are the difference ? does vgc means like singles or stg?

[sleek laurel]

VGC is the official Nintendo format, with level 50s, bring 6 pick 4, etc

Doubles OU is level 100, you use all 6 Pokémon on your team, and the bans are different

There are certain mons that are allowed in one format, and are not allowed in the other

[rancid island]

https://pokepast.es/8554ed6736bad6e1

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[pearl valley]

calyrex-ice feels like a polar bear in arlington texas here

you have no other trick room pokemon

you could run another restricted or add a duo like ursaluna and indeedee-f

also kingdra gets one shot by miraidon so be aware of that

[rancid island]

what restricted would you suggest

i just use it so i can counterplay tailwind teams

[rancid island]

i know but usually im able to surf or draco it

[pearl valley]

That is if you get tailwind up

If miraidon has whims then you’re cooked

[pearl valley]

Zamazenta already matches up pretty well into Miraidon

You could also run Zacian who outspeeds Miraidon

[rancid island]

so now what's the trickroom counterplay

[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/663138cfcede220b
How's this team

[sand echo]

yeah gambit feels a little weird on the team ty, follow up question how do i get either of those pokemon in sv 😭

[sand echo]

gotcha tysm

[ocean estuary]

https://pokepast.es/d3a9693410012dfc Looking for any help to improve this team for Reg F! So far I’ve really struggled against TR and Farigiraf specifically. I added Kingambit over Landorus to help with that but now I feel I’m very exposed to Raging Bolt and Iron Hands

[light nebula]

Nobody replied to this that I can see but AV and protect don't work together

You're better off changing one of the two out

save for that, mag is a little weird but i see the vision

i would put DGleam over moonblast on primarina for the spread personally

maybe a defensive tera like steel

[loud hamlet]

Why are u running lando t 😭

[light nebula]

give that genie a life orb

and go SpA instead of phys

honestly just drop lando t yeah

big red cat of evil

[hallow hill]

can I get some tips on improving this team? https://pokepast.es/d966e55fe72ff397

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[light nebula]

Try solgaleo instead of zacian. Surprisingly good kyurem synergy

I actually have a kyurem team myself just one moment

https://pokepast.es/564ed489e0494a15

Tr mode and lunala provides healing to the team

Wide guard is chef's kiss

[hallow hill]

oh alr

[hallow hill]

why do you have iron boulder tho?

[light nebula]

I hate iron hands and I like mighty cleave going through protect

[hallow hill]

cant urshifu do that but better?

[light nebula]

I could try urshifu

I will also say I'm not the person who came up with the team but i think the guy who did had more reasons for Boulder

TLDR it also matches good into kyurem bad mus

[zealous steppe]

I think that your dragapult has a good overall moveset, but I think that dragon cheer realistically should be replaced with dragon darts or even just protect. I agree that garchomp and kommo o are in a good spot overall, and goodra also has a fantastic movepool, but hisuian goodra is typically run quite bulky. It looses 20 speed stats from its non-hisuian forme, and gains a ton of bulk. I still genuinely believe that replacing baxcalibur with hydreigon (hydreigon can be used as a special attacker and as a form of speed control) would improve your team a lot. You can pair garchomp with salamence for a fully offensive physical attacking team with tailwind, or a mixed spa/atk team with hydreigon and still get tailwind up.

and replace stomping tantrum with earthquake on garchomp, it will do you wonders

[granite basin]

main ones are tyou are using two subtier restricteds, netiehr I would exactly recommend, so the team is inherrently flawed. Secondly, a few set edits are needed (something like this https://pokepast.es/6bd32ff7a72f2f34, if you want me to explain the changes further lmk), and I dont think sableye really fits at all, instead a redirector like ogerpon-hearthlfame could be greatly appreciated, or landorus-i for another offensive piece, and the evs are all unoptimised

also to contradict what someone else said, solgaleo is a really bad restrict3ed and not worth using with kyurem, if you want a steal type wide guard user then I would strongly recommend zamazenta-crowned but

that would also require some adapting of the team

[uncut harness]

https://pokepast.es/120ae5967855d102

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[uncut harness]

im trying to make this team vgc ready

[granite basin]

replace horn leech with follow me / focus energy, then replace heatran with something else like lando i or raging bolt then it looks good to me

[uncut harness]

its there for mons like flutter for fairy type coverage

[granite basin]

you can go another fairy resist then, but ogerpon + your offense should make it not too bad of a mu

[uncut harness]

hmm and for sunny day would be good against arch

[lavish nexus]

https://pokepast.es/f5f0104ebdeab505
used to have bolt but changed for torn, since it has a better matchup into sun teams, a good spread option, and immediate damage with urshifu

[light nebula]

https://pokepast.es/654dabe31daab706

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[light nebula]

did i cook

[ivory linden]

What the hell is going on with primarina's evs

Or like, half your teams actually

[light nebula]

im ngl i just didnt know what to do with evs on the team

that was the main thing i wanted to ask about actually

i also didnt realize this until now i forgot tera types thats my b

[ocean lantern]

https://pokepast.es/f409f0195608d872 thoughts? focus is raging bolt and rillaboom. heatran is there for flutter and shifu for lando

[light nebula]

https://pokepast.es/8d12039d56e1f699 fixed the teras

[tight adder]

https://pokepast.es/20823efa19d185da

Reg F team, trying out new stuff lmk what i should keep/get rid of

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[pearl valley]

dragonite is mid without chien pao

[sleek laurel]

Where did that RMT go

[pearl valley]

also murkrow is just too frail

and tornadus is better in every way

[sage jasper]

https://pokepast.es/df8bd7e6b3de965c im happy with this team. its just indeede iron crown psy spam i cant deal with

[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/b1b605efce4ed9bf
How's this team

[pearl valley]

I feel like your offense is pretty lacking ngl

Also you have incin?

that does well into psyspam

[sage jasper]

how would i use him if you dont mind me asking?

[pearl valley]

you could also run AV bolt

[sleek laurel]

Honestly I think the offense is doing fine

Bolt and Incin help a lot

But

[sage jasper]

i want to switch raging bolt into a AV or life orb

[sleek laurel]

AV bolt is good here

And also run bulkier on it

[sage jasper]

any specific calcs i should look at?

[sleek laurel]

I personally like

196 HP / 132 Def / 100+ SpA / Speed for something / rest in SpD

This defense lives Pao’s Crash

SpA is standard and a jump point

Speed I usually do 60 to get Pao in TW but you have no TW

So you can probs do less

[sage jasper]

using clef for psuedo speed

and redirection

it does life a sludge from tera poison lando

[sleek laurel]

Not sure if Clef is reliable Icy Wind

I’d slot that on Flutter over Taunt

[sage jasper]

and 2 hit KO tera water surg

[sleek laurel]

Since it’s Speed-boosting Flutter anyway

[sage jasper]

how do i stop trick room then?

[sleek laurel]

I feel like your EVs altogether need some changing

[pearl valley]

Clefairy is mid in this format anyway

[sleek laurel]

From whom? Indeedee?

[sage jasper]

yup

[sleek laurel]

Hold up lemme check smtg

[sage jasper]

thanks for the help!

[sage jasper]

using clef as anti trick room

and redirection with the after you

[pearl valley]

Ogerpon gets redirection

[sleek laurel]

Clef gets After Yiu yea

Or you can just

[sage jasper]

yup

[sleek laurel]

Farigiraf

[sage jasper]

thats my trick room

[sleek laurel]

And Follow Me Ogerpon

[tight adder]

wasn’t entirely sure on dnite in the first place, i was looking for a decent raging bolt check that isn’t a victim to rb

[sleek laurel]

But I actually like Clef here cause you have a ton of setup

But you probably need Icy Wind on Flutter

And a lot of mons here want bulkier spreads

[sage jasper]

clef was for ogerpon set up S dance

[sleek laurel]

Idt Taunt is too necessary

You have Clef to operate inside TR

And a lot of bulky stuff

• Incin

Your EVs do need some updating, I can get a paste for you

[sage jasper]

if you do it would be greatly appreciated

[sleek laurel]

Sure, gimme a min

[pearl valley]

alternatively you could just run farigiraf

[sleek laurel]

Yea I mentioned that earlier

[pearl valley]

and use trick room after its set

[sleek laurel]

Farig and Follow Me Ogerpon is a choice too

[sage jasper]

i was thinking about that

its just the decision between clef and flutter ice or ogerpon redirection with farig

does farig learn follow me

[pearl valley]

no but it gets a more annoying version of follow me

[sage jasper]

which one?

[pearl valley]

ally switch

[sleek laurel]

https://pokepast.es/5e66ce5726cf862e

Try this out @sage jasper if you’re keeping the mons as they are

Ogerpon can run the offense again if you find your attack to be lackluster but honestly with Tera Fire and all you’re fine

[sleek laurel]

😭

[sage jasper]

if you dont mind me asking

whats with the EVS on lando?

[sleek laurel]

Snarl on AV bolt also helps a lot

[sage jasper]

clefairy is my baby

[sleek laurel]

It’s “hit the highest nature bump and dump a bit in bulk”

[sage jasper]

i have a horrible bias tbh

[pearl valley]

I mean if you wanna keep clefairy thats fine but

[sleek laurel]

You can do max max Lando too but I think 196 should suffice

Almost always

[sleek laurel]

I mean it’s one ranked mon

I’m not gonna deny a rate for a team that wants to use one C- mon

I’ve seen WAY worse

[sage jasper]

as long as it 1 shots raging bolt it should be fine

[sleek laurel]

1 shots everything except AV

[sage jasper]

i was doing pretty well in showdown

[sleek laurel]

Which you can’t 1 shot anyway

[pearl valley]

bo1 or bot3

[sage jasper]

im going to regionals thats why hopefully

[sleek laurel]

If you’re going to regionals you need to train on bo3 btw

[sage jasper]

i want to get a team together

[sage jasper]

yup

[sleek laurel]

Bo1 ladder is like not real training

[sage jasper]

thats what i do

[sleek laurel]

It doesn’t even begin to count

Yea then peak

[pearl valley]

yo i got top 500 on bo1 ladder

[sleek laurel]

Thats an achievement on its own

[sage jasper]

thanks for your help

[pearl valley]

i know nobody cares

[sleek laurel]

But it’s not training

[sage jasper]

both of you

[sleek laurel]

LOL

Np and gm

[sage jasper]

ill take this into account

[sleek laurel]

Gl

[sage jasper]

thanks

maybe i become the next regional champ

a pipe dream but we move

oh wait

life dew on clef ? @sleek laurel

thats for raging bolt mostly right?

[sleek laurel]

For bolt and Oger yea

It’s actually a standard move

On clef in general

Also for clef itself

[sage jasper]

now please be honest

[pearl valley]

anyways i need some help here https://pokepast.es/97a5066a61bc98b9

[sage jasper]

is clef a throw pick

[pearl valley]

opponents team is image

[sleek laurel]

It’s a mid pick but not a throw one

It’s just a bit harder to use

C rank mons are like this

You gotta use them in specific teams

[pearl valley]

yea i tried pao pult

[sleek laurel]

But this looks fine

[pearl valley]

its very strong

but it has a huge skill ceiling

[sleek laurel]

Anyway I gotta brb

[sage jasper]

then would farig be better maybe?

like neapolean said

tested it and farig doesnt feel right tbh

how would i use it

I was also considering tornadus instead of farig for hard tailwind

[tight adder]

https://pokepast.es/902f92ee6444054d made some changes, lmk if it looks better

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[pearl valley]

Iron Moth feels weird and random here

[tight adder]

what would you recommend?

[vagrant orchid]

I tried to make darkrai work
https://pokepast.es/b2b34b838beaaf3b

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @random wagon, @sleek laurel, @broken shuttle, @wanton abyss, @jovial creek, @sonic apex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[sleek laurel]

Indeedee or Rillaboom > Gothitelle

Shadow Tag doesn’t really give you much and you need Terrain control otherwise Miraidon just

Wins

Because Electric Terrain denies sleep lol

[vagrant orchid]

Oh yeah

How did I forget that lol

[sleek laurel]

Also probably Life Orb Calyrex-S > Specs and Perish Song on Flutter is kinda too gimmicky

Nah happens to all of us LOL

[sleek laurel]

So probs Icy Wind over that

Especially without Goth lol

[vagrant orchid]

Yeah that's obvious

[sleek laurel]

Rest seems fine, depends on how Band Ursh has been treating you

Ofc this team isn’t optimal as a concept but

Specifics don’t look necessarily bad

[vagrant orchid]

Its just a team I made for fun

[sleek laurel]

Yea I figured