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[austere wasp]

Sash/white herb

[wispy night]

rate my team 1 - 10, i feel like its good but i kinda suck but i still win most battles https://pokepast.es/bc872b297d3a30bd

[tribal void]

slot protect on sneasler, its a huge help in outplaying double priority or fake out attempting to break your sash. tera ghost of stellar are better options as stellar gives a one time boost to all moves or ghost protects from fake out. I think a life orb ursa bm would be better than kings rock(super gimmickly) and mystic water or scarf would be able to substitute for basculegion.

and if you want to make your mons bulkier, prioritize hp sometimes.

over def

unless your name is blissey

arc-h likes spamming rock slide over headsmash as hs is too unreliable. Rock slide is a high flinch chance spammable spread stab move. Also intimidate on h-arc will allow you to have better matchups into physical attackers

also compliments its av

covert cloak whim is better than helmet as covert cloak completely cuts off any chance of flinches, guarenteeing you a tailwind

also I don't feel like your team has many things to threaten rain threats like archaludon or basm under rain. Arch if tailwind is traded will just do big damage to your team with only ursa bm and sneasler able to do some big damage to it. Basc M on rain is a bigger issue because nothing really hits it well besides basm's own last respects(which it doesn't outspeed swift swim bascM) and and sneasler's throat chop(which requires tera to ohko iirc)

[gentle epoch]

I know this is a bit late but the whims seems pretty good

[tribal void]

yeah, whim with encore and or taunt can be annoying for opponents. It can set up sunny day for typh, and is another pokemon that doesn't instantly fold to rock slide

[gentle epoch]

The only issue I can see is sunny day messing with hurricane

I thought of a sunny day or drought mon

[tribal void]

yeah, sunny day is only for when u don't bring oricorio or decide eruption ohko'ing is more important

[gentle epoch]

Yeh I get you, thank you for your insight o7

[reef orchid]

https://pokepast.es/3aa69d86654cf9ca

[drifting onyx]

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[reef orchid]

is this meta

[random wagon]

i wouldnt say meta but it is a decent starting point

specifically the core of whims and hyphlo

and kingambit

incin can probably be ursa-bm and ape can be farig

cuz farig blocks prio for hyphlo

and ursa-bm can hit stuff like arma and arch

prim should be swapped for tauros-a so you can keep a fighting-type

like i feel scarf ape is good but not on a team with hyphlo

[soft nexus]

https://pokepast.es/ffd28500449e123b final team (fr this time), what should I add/switch?

I don’t wanna use a choice item on hyphlo because I’ve had situations where typhlosion is my last mon, it gets low, and I’m locked into eruption

[random wagon]

you dont have many ways to deal with ursa

you also just get destroyed by sunspam

[soft nexus]

so what can I do

[random wagon]

you can try going low kick over tera blast on king

and stomping over dclaw

[amber cloud]

https://pokepast.es/337c07f8e1c0eca7

Pls tell me any better ev spreads

[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/11223b6e16892d8b hows this team

[untold estuary]

Hey can I get some help with my team please, idk if I'm crazy but kinggambit kinda sucks- idk if it's cause I built him wrong if he isn't a good fit for my team or if I just never used one before and not comfy with em, help please 😭 https://pokepast.es/30e4d7c048de33f4

[untold estuary]

Very good yet imo you should run tera fire on gastrodon

[narrow dock]

Ok

Should I make her a trap yawn gastrodon

[untold estuary]

Ooo evil do it >:3

[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/78bad2a4f86e83aa ok hows this team

[drifting onyx]

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[tribal void]

https://pokepast.es/b6b59997853424b8 anyone have some suggesyions for improvement or am I just bad? I usually have trouble fighting teams with pult-sneasler or ninetales-a teams that try to go for screens first thing

[tribal void]

gastrodon is way too passive. with no way of really doing damage besides sand tomb. Gastrodon is supposed to be a bulky water type that helps support the team using icy wind, clear smog, yawn, redirecting water moves, and also hitting decently hard with earth power. This gastrodon is support heavy sure, but a little too support heavy. I think the lilligant-h + torkoal combo was fine before but try running sleep powder over triple axel as I don't think this team needs any help with dragon types. Also do keep in mind teams like these with multiple combos like torkoal H-lilligant or sunroom are very gimmicky in nature and you will have to keep in mind stuff like wide guard, taunt, or parting shots from incin that could possibly stop your set up

also

gastrodon doesn't really fit in this team comp in the first place ngl

its slow and bulky, but not offensive like what this team is trying to achieve

the team is simply too hyper offensive to warrant gastro's use

[random wagon]

this statement about gastro isnt necessarily true

gastrodon sees success on teams like this to deter things like bascu, pelipper, and pala

i think the set is what makes it seem so passive

so a set of tera fire sitrus berry, earth power, ice beam, yawn and protect should work

[random wagon]

tbh i dont think your using flamigo the right way

flamgio (right now) sees success on these p2luna guss teams

with incin, prim, and dengo

thats at least sash flamigo, although ive been testing life orb which has been working pretty well for me

idk what would be a great replacemt which is an issue

[tribal void]

I see flamigo as a fighting type that helps my weird matchup into grass types sometimes that also allows me to click eq on chomp

Wide guard also lets me deal with psyspam sometimes

[random wagon]

your team already does well into psyspam

you can probably go sash sneasler over flamigo

and then run AV dnite with tera flying tera blast OR tera steel iron head over chomp

[narrow dock]

@tribal void and @random wagon what if I put dondozo on this team. What should I make it do

[random wagon]

Dont use dozo on psyspam

just dont

[hushed dune]

https://pokepast.es/7fee9c1af214fed2

the teams sole win condition is dozo/dozomingo. ive worked incredibly hard to ensure that it can stop any and all ways to stop my win condition, but do you have any ideas on how i can make it even better?

[narrow dock]

What water type should I use that's not gastro

[random wagon]

just use gastro

[random wagon]

use this set @narrow dock

[random wagon]

tbh the team os just too gimmicky to see legitimate success

but if its just for fun then just use it the way it is

[hushed dune]

what do you mean too gimicky?

is there a common strat that shuts it down?

[tribal void]

https://pokepast.es/9697ff2291fca323

im having some trouble figuring out a decent ev spread for dnite

any suggestions?

also

wondering if i should make prim life orb

over mystic water

[random wagon]

as in your whole team is a gimmick and overall quite unreliable

[random wagon]

mystic water should be fine

ice spinner and stomping tantrum should be there over low kick and dragon claw on dragonite

and ill get back to you with a spread later bc i have school

[hushed dune]

Thats... kinda true I guess, but I have an answer to all methods of my opponent stopping dozo/dozomingo

[tribal void]

i slot on low kick because it ends up doing better against ttar, gambit, and arch

tantrum is only really for ghold

[lament rivet]

https://pokepast.es/3af8857acbf58c1f

[drifting onyx]

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[lament rivet]

I have no idea what I should put as my 6th mon...

I was thinking Aqua breed tauros w/ mirror herb intimidate for defiant gambit

[tribal void]

its better to have 1 grass type on your rain team as it leads to overlapping typing and you also have to worry about the sun matchup

incin is a great mon even on rain for that intimidate and fake out pressure

if you are looking for a fake out mon on rain

same issue with paldean tauros

overlapping typings can some times cause problems

after that there are a lot of things you could choose as your last slot

fighting type in annihilape(overlapping ghost shouldn't be a problem since this is rain and incin hates rain anyways but ghold might be an issue)

maushold

[lament rivet]

I was thinking of choosing toxicroack as my fighting type

Imo it's kinda similar to sneasler except it heals itself via rain and drain punch

[celest tundra]

https://pokepast.es/e6dc852c556aec1b my first team for reg H and was dared to use chimecho

[frail bay]

https://pokepast.es/1757448de062d31b TAILWIND

[narrow dock]

Does sap sipper make you immune to spore

[narrow dock]

Get rid of alluring voice on prima

And ice spinner

[lament rivet]

I think so

Grass type status moves should activate the ability

[sterile flame]

https://pokepast.es/9c82540782a3e7ab

[drifting onyx]

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[sterile flame]

wtf do i do against ghold

[jovial creek]

Ttar and pult

Could also go gambit over meta

[sterile flame]

true

but I like metagross

I built the team with using him in mind

I could try speed control

[past harbor]

First of all you need 6 members

Second of all maushold uses pop bomb on archaludon and you are cooked

[frail bay]

Thanks.

[sterile flame]

That's another issue I have

[sterile flame]

i'm asking about a 6th who should I put 💀

[random wagon]

you can probably just try prim or clefable as a sixth

actually prob clefable because that does well into the pop bomb arch stuff when using tera

and run kingambit over tyranitar

tyranitar here just feels random

sash sneasler is also just better rn if your not using acro

and when removing ttar move the AV to rilla

but like why metagross also

i would also fix some of those evs

[stuck kelp]

How does this team look? Going to my 2nd regional after the first one was in 2018 before real life got in the way

[random wagon]

very solid team but i have a few suggestions:

Arma should always have tera grass, also run wide guard over protect

Tera Fire on hatterene, works well defensively. Up to you but you could also try mystical fire over protect

Again up to you, but i suggest substitute over SD on Ursaluna, allows for ursaluna to be safer.

Finally i suggest tera fighting on p2, tera fighting tera blast can easily destroy kingambit

[stuck kelp]

the Arma has Tera Grass, sorry; i haven't edited that part out yet

so, to conserve my Tera for P2, should I just let Indeedee risk tanking the two opposing mons with Follow Me and always prioritze getting Arma to launch TR off?

[random wagon]

not always

but that is a way you can go

[stuck kelp]

or just Protect with Arma and let Indee take a possible one hit if they target Arma

[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/0f5920cbd80e3a82

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[narrow dock]

I really like this team

[wispy night]

https://pokepast.es/4e35e6a465e71412 opinions? only lost like 1 match of like 10 to unexpected trick room team

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[warped citrus]

Ya this is a wannabe Annihilape team (it's probably bad) does anyone think it was potential or anything can be improved in it or should i just scrap it like all of its brothers except one https://pokepast.es/43cdbe9b75364bad

[cunning blade]

Anybody got suggestions for ways to build around this? It's my first time trying vgc and I wanna use these two.
https://pokepast.es/dbfc988db4f1be1b

[tribal void]

loaded dice i not very good with maushold as its an accuracy check based move, not an rng based multihit move. Arch will almost always be exclucively used on rain. With pelliper, arch, and maushold, this is a powerful core that can have many other pokemon slotted on with it

[tribal void]

mixed sets never usually sit very well in vgc, samurott is an interesting choice though, why pick it? wondering because if I know the purpose of the h-samurott i could give more advice on this team

tera steel is ok on annhilape but ape likes tera water or grass. Giving up ape's good matchup into other fighting types by going tera steel is too iffy

protect over p-jab

amoongus also likes to tack on some physical bulk for stuff like ursaluna

also correct me if im wrong but sash users like your whimsicott like running minimal bulk as the sash already gives it some longevity so its better to run spatk on whim? Idk because whim is a weird one for me

[tribal void]

its much better to have sash on sneasler as focus band is too much of a gamble

amoongus is a much more reliable spore user than toedscruel as well

[warped citrus]

Samurott is there to deal with bith flying/ psychic types for annihilape

[tribal void]

samurott should be full physical at least

mixed is too weak and too frail

[warped citrus]

I just like that wimscot set i have been using it and because i try to keep it alive for a second tailwind

[warped citrus]

👍

[warped citrus]

Tera steel annihilape i found resists all of its weaknesses except ghost and didn't really understand why water and grasss

[warped citrus]

Ok i just found it a way to i deal with fairys

[warped citrus]

I found him tanky just like wimscot i made a team that had been doing good so i use the same set that i use on that team only changing minor things

[warped citrus]

Understandable i am still new (5 months isn't new) but i am doing my best thank you for helping have a good day

[tribal void]

do you keep annihilape as a fighting type or a ghost type?

cause if you keep him as a fighting type and have some troubles against fairies, try out sneasler

[warped citrus]

It's both?

[warped citrus]

Considered it instead of h-s

[warped citrus]

I don't understand what you mean also opinion on salamander

Thanks

[tribal void]

is annihilape on your team because its a fighting type or because its a ghost type? what role does it fit what does it do?

[warped citrus]

Mostly ghost because of beat up plus rage punsh idea from wolfeyvGC

It's like mixed but more ghost

[tribal void]

do you see your ghold as a steel or ghost type role mostly?

im wondering because of the overlapping typings

sneasler covers for whatever ghold can't hit

so if you use your gholdengo more as a ghost type for that ghost type offense and sub ape out for sneasler, i feel like your team would be a bit more structurally sound

thats just my opinion

make sure to play around with changes when changing teams to find something that you like

[warped citrus]

Steel for fairies as you see my team is weak very weak to it

[warped citrus]

Then thank you for your opinion

[cunning blade]

Okay how does this team look?
https://pokepast.es/c9da0fa0ba3a9c70

[copper brook]

Team looks good but the maushold set is a little bit odd

It shouldn’t be a mix of attacking and support, pick one

Also you can drop the extra defense evs on archaludon and put them elsewhere, they don’t change much

Try timid gholdengo too, so that you are competing in speed wars vs opposing gholdengo

And give your pokemon tera types, they shouldn’t all be the same as the base (you can decide what tera types would be best for each pokemon as you play games)

[drifting onyx]

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[stuck kelp]

Ok, went in and had a friend and his VGC friend rework my teams a bit; how do they look like they fair?

https://pokepast.es/74f3c0c38e72ca2e
https://pokepast.es/f8136aeabf598935

[random wagon]

the second team looks good but if you want the first team to be a bit more dedicated around hyphlo then run aqua tauros over prim and farig over ghold

[warped citrus]

Hello i am back with one of my trash teams again https://pokepast.es/6dedd0ec3e745166 (i know there is probably a lot wrong with it)

[drifting onyx]

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[stuck kelp]

Well Farig was on the original incarnation of the team, but I found I rarely used it during the first Online Challenge.

[stuck kelp]

What stats and moves would you recommend for those two?

[sturdy shale]

first time building a team. my friend and i are trying to workshop:
https://pokepast.es/bcbc3ec08d5e1cff

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[tribal void]

if you are trying to proc unburden with sneasler, better use grassy seed as its mostly guarenteed without another opposing terrain setter. Pult teams don't usually have a tailwind setter as pult is so naturally fast its basically your speed control

thats my advice for the team so far, but looks pretty good!

also the spatk investment is not needed as tera blast is never clicked without terastalizing. just try to watch out for auto given ev spreads on showdown

also phantom force is a better stab than shadow ball

sb is too weak

drop the sb

for u turn

for pivoting

[sturdy shale]

awesome, thanks for the points! i'll def make the changes to pult. would you switch out talon or just change up the moveset?

[tribal void]

i would definetly switch out talon as its mostly used as an offensive tailwind setter, maybe some kind of redirection

but honestly speaking

putting in a redirector just makes it look like a clone of every other sneasler-pult team

but sometimes you want a more optomized team than a unique one, depending on what you feel

[sturdy shale]

true, what would you suggest?

[tribal void]

if you want to go with a common redirector, electabuzz most commonly finds itself on these teams for a decent pelliper matchup and redirection with either static for physical attackers or vital spirit for amoongus

[sturdy shale]

awesome, ill give it a shot. thanks!

very helpful

[sturdy shale]

actually, one last question, just so i can try a few things out. what other redirection recommendations would you suggest?

[tribal void]

magmar is an okay substitute that also patches up the lack of a fire type, also hase vital spirit and the burn version of static, flame body. Clefable is a barely bulkier option with unaware to ignore stat boosts and has an item slot open due to not needed eviolite. Its a less common option on these types of teams as sneasler pult usually runs primarina as a spread move spammer instead of ursabm. Clefable could be used as your fairy type, but it will mostly be focused on support with safety goggles, sitrus berry, or rocky helmet

also with the spdef investment you have on rillaboom it might be a good option to go av over miracle seed

if you still decide to go with miracle seed try to slot on protect over a move to give it longevity and to put more of the evs into hp

[sturdy shale]

i appreciate it

[wispy night]

https://pokepast.es/483b706f1bf4ad08 opinions? i dont plan on changing this, mostly want to know what other ppl think

[drifting onyx]

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[prime mountain]

https://pokepast.es/2e3aac58bd1ede68 here's my second attempt at the indeedee-m + sneasler psyspam core, any feedback is appreciated :-)

[waxen oyster]

https://pokepast.es/238cdaf195ca88f2
i tried making a TR team for reg g, but idk how this would play out

wait, caly-i is meant to be tera ice

[tribal void]

sash is a more consistent option over focus band on sneasler

muscle band*

the damage

is neglectable

in many cases

sash gives it longevity

if you want some play over intimidate

use clear amulet

but thats about it

clear amulet or sash should be the item of choice on sneasler

[woeful parrot]

https://pokepast.es/e47172ce434d6888
Can someone help me with Dragapult evs

[drifting onyx]

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[copper brook]

You’d be better off using a choice band on the dragapult, there is no point in setting up boosts on a hyper offense team like this one

252atk/252spe/ adamant

The remaining 4 evs can go wherever you want them to go, I don’t think they change anything too important

[woeful parrot]

Oh ok

[oblique fractal]

bit late, but your team needs someone who can properly abuse trick room, as RN you seem to have a room based on tailwind and just smacked two trick room setters on it @celest tundra

[celest tundra]

Would there be any that you would recommend I add?

[floral mantle]

https://pokepast.es/c7ffbd19e1362a64

Its good?

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[ornate cloak]

https://pokepast.es/a92e1e463ed7b7f0

[drifting onyx]

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[ornate cloak]

@random wagon

[tribal void]

https://pokepast.es/76db1a740a831d68

[drifting onyx]

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[tribal void]

just wondering if there was any better alternatives to some pokemon or anyway i could improve

i have a feeling to change rotom's tera type to fire

but then sash pelliper might give it some trouble

[tribal void]

im wondering if rotom heat is the play

rotom heat kinda annoys arch(kinda cause dpulse still exists) but does worse into pelliper

heat would allow me to patch up a kind of shaky armarouge indeedee lead matchup tho

cause i don't have to worry about rotom mow tera'ing

[soft nexus]

why are you using specs ninetales?

[tribal void]

while looking at tournaments

i saw the ninetales team that paul chua used in baltimore got really popular during the joinville regionals

i wondered why it was good

and saw the winner did use specs

thinking about it

ninetales under snow

is decently bulky

hits hard with specs

spams threatening ice spread that can threaten to freeze and ohko many dragons like chomp, dnite, dragapult

well, it was initially not specs

but figured sneasler needed sash more than ninetales

so gave ninetales specs

its also a fairy type

but its fairy typing i find is only really used defensively

than offensive

its also really bs

blizzard spam+ dire claw

its kind of bs

just a side effect

[lament rivet]

https://pokepast.es/eb50c5f1a812cda2

[drifting onyx]

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[frail bay]

https://pokepast.es/94748454ca988d44

Big note: I haven't pick the tera types yet except from a few pokemons. If you have a suggestion, please tell.

[random wagon]

the overall structure of the team is good

but you only need one grass type

i suggest dropping rilla and sneasler for set up annihilape and pop bomb maus

tera ghost on peli

id suggest tera grass arch as well

amoonguss should be tera psychic/dark/water

[random wagon]

the whole team is either just using unviable pokemon or unviable sets

i suggest just scrapping it unfortunately

[frail bay]

Aww :(

I really love the idea of Dipplin but ig fair.

[lament rivet]

https://pokepast.es/1a370280d79cd1b1
I never ran maus-ape before btw

[drifting onyx]

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[random wagon]

Fix up maus and ape evs and run tera fire ape

[lament rivet]

What should the ev spread be for them?

I was thinking of copying and pasting the Uber set from Smogon for Ape

[random wagon]

Nah

Dont do that

Go to munchstats

[lament rivet]

munchstats?

[random wagon]

its a website

[quick isle]

https://pokepast.es/183e41111c2e7e09
Made this trying to be a counter meta team but I feel like I can heavily improve this. Volcarona feels useless but I wanted a pokemon with a grass move. I have gastrodon because someone said it was a counter to archaludon. I have H-Typh on the team to counter rillaboom. Pelliper, Archaludon, and basculegion were all taken from a sample team and weren't tweaked

[soft nexus]

run safety goggles on maushold to avoid rage powder

[amber cloud]

https://pokepast.es/08b20bbf583c6479

[drifting onyx]

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[amber cloud]

Are there any problems that I can fix?

[tribal void]

https://pokepast.es/01c5232fa7362495

any suggestions for some possible changes or matchups that might be a problem

[frail bay]

https://pokepast.es/11f981ff8316fc95

Experimental TR team. Running some pokemons that I think may have potential.

They also double down as a sweeper so there goes the hassle of switching in and out.

[random wagon]

looks very solid but talon should be covert with tera flying or even grass

and idk if i would go rotom-mow

in general it just isnt very good

[random wagon]

4 of those 6 pokemon arent good

[random wagon]

tbh you probably turn this into standard p2 luna stuff

overall p2 has been all figured out for the current meta

[amber cloud]

https://pokepast.es/52412b133d917705

[drifting onyx]

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[amber cloud]

Something like this

[random wagon]

ye

[frail bay]

Can you give me some team building tips? I feel really lost with these.

All teams I build just end up failing & I end up not having fun.

[random wagon]

well i suggest using samples

to learn what a good team has and does

[frail bay]

Thanks. I will look to it further.

[wise gazelle]

https://pokepast.es/64fce348a1e7a188 i dont know

[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/dcdca826ca61cc87

any thoughts

[tribal void]

https://pokepast.es/51967e54cb3d4818 you think hydreigon would be a good addition? I did notice that i have no dark types on my team

and dark types would help out psyspam a lot

av hydreigon also still does good into pelliper

which is kind of what im looking for in the last slot

cause 99% of the time id rather click blizzard of ninetales than freeze dry

wait

this is the wrong team

it isnt finished

it doesn't have my metal coat ghold set

https://pokepast.es/8e7489d2e912d4ee

there it is

[random wagon]

Go AV Kingambit instead bc hydrei+chomp isnt a great combo

[tribal void]

wouldn't i just be doubling down on fire type weak mons?

also kingambit is a bit weird to ev for me

should i make it kind of fast to take advantage of tailwind

or keep it slow as possible to patch up TR matchups?

[floral mantle]

https://pokepast.es/c7ffbd19e1362a64
is it good?

[drifting onyx]

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[quick isle]

Am I allowed to a post the same team twice?

[floral mantle]

If no one replied you, i do think so

I mean, if you dont got any tips

[wispy night]

https://pokepast.es/0d5ec33ac4001206

[drifting onyx]

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[random wagon]

fire offensively isnt a very common type. As for EVs, try both and see how they feel

[random wagon]

makr everything as slow as possible

run EQ or sub over throat chop

also run dgleam or psychic over alluring voice on indeedee

[floral mantle]

Everything? Even zoroark?

[floral mantle]

https://pokepast.es/9038d2b2c6f9317f

Is it better?

@random wagon

[quick isle]

https://pokepast.es/183e41111c2e7e09
Made this trying to be a counter meta team but I feel like I can heavily improve this. Volcarona feels useless but I wanted a pokemon with a grass move. I have gastrodon because someone said it was a counter to archaludon. I have H-Typh on the team to counter rillaboom. Pelliper, Archaludon, and basculegion were all taken from a sample team and weren't tweaked

[cinder glacier]

https://pokepast.es/030d053d12cf13f9

[drifting onyx]

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[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/a2a0e8cb1636cc72 any thoughts for Ev spreads

[random wagon]

Thats good

[random wagon]

Typhlo is suiper random

[quick isle]

My thought process behind it (probably not a good one) is that fire hits rillaboom for super effective, and ghost types can't be hit with fake out. So typh = rillaboom counter

[random wagon]

volc with covert cloak is a rilla counter

[quick isle]

My volc feels useless. Should I change my volc and get rid of typh for more coverage?

[random wagon]

You can change volc to SD king since that beats rilla

Switch gastro to amoon

[quick isle]

What is sd king?

And what should I do with the amoongus?

[random wagon]

Swords dance kingambit

And just go standard guss

[quick isle]

Okie dokie. My friend kept suggesting king gambit as a coverage mon

I'll take his set probably

I was also using gastrodon as a archaludon counter, will amoongus fill the same role?

[random wagon]

amoonguss forces tera onto arch

allowing for peli to come in

also now your arch

has flash cannon as an option

[quick isle]

Could you explain a little more? I'm just having a hard time following

[random wagon]

so amoonguss can force arch to tera thanks to spore being really threatening

and if the opposing arch goes for tera amooonguss can remove boosts with clear smog

and then your focus sash pelipper can hit with hurricane

hurricane 2HKOs even with timid

but modest is prob better

[quick isle]

Oh that's so smart. Amoongus is pretty much filling the same role as gastrodon

[random wagon]

and if archaludon doesnt tera they lose to spore

[quick isle]

Makes sense

Thank you :)

[random wagon]

np

[quick isle]

I'll probably be back for more after a couple games

[lament rivet]

Experimenting with this tailwind team (I'm tired of using rain teams) and I'm not sure what to put for the other two slots https://pokepast.es/b2feaa05c8e61476

[drifting onyx]

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[random wagon]

murkrow shouldnt be there

[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/a92045651fb344f3

[random wagon]

Dunsparce is not good at all

And toxtricity, although seeing results, is just alright

This also isnt the right team for it

Hdecid is also weird here

You can go lilligant-h there

And if you want a AV electric AV vikavolt over tox

Dunsparce can be ursa

[sweet lintel]

Trying to Build around ttar https://pokepast.es/301bf2a598d65feb

[drifting onyx]

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[random wagon]

these are singles sets on a vgc team

Use amoonguss over rilla

AV on ttar

sash or lorb on edrill

safety goggles on clef

check the dex for the incin set

palafin should be holding mystic water too

fix ttar evs and use low kick and tera blast over hhp and dragon dance

use protect over EQ and tera ghost on edrill

run haze and protect over cc and flip turn

tera grass on pala too

clef should be tera steel/water/electric

focus blast should be protect

and ice beam should be life dew/twave

with better evs

i see the vision though

also consider volc over incin

[narrow dock]

@random wagon https://pokepast.es/a9b3cb6c1f757615 what about this

[oblique fractal]

@narrow dock I'm no pengu, but unless you run mental herb, I'd recommend using an attack on Indeedee

Probably dazzling gleam or psychic noise

[narrow dock]

Indeed can't learn p-noise

[oblique fractal]

Was it that or alluring voice?

My bad

Gen 9 tms are mixed in my head

[cursive mason]

yeah you usually run like psychic for the atk on indeedee

I'd slot it over heal pulse here

I think you'd prob want to replace smthing here with gallade

either vika or sinistcha

bc atp it's like an integral part of psyspam lol since it gives you good coverage v darks and a 2nd tr setter

although maybe you can get by without it psyspam is kinda in a weird spot atm so idk what the best core is

I would recommend having at least one phys mon somewhere tho like gallade, ursaluna, h-lilli or smthing

having your entire damage spread be special can lead to some issues with like AV/snarl mons

[narrow dock]

@cursive mason https://pokepast.es/7c6f0fe8eb4ea63e https://pokepast.es/e1f3c3c1d8fa9fd5 which u think is better?

[frail bay]

https://pokepast.es/45e77dc21e5fa049

Hope you guys can help finding the flaws in this team. So far, I've been having a few successes there but some fails confuse me.

[grave nebula]

gambit needs more Attack and less def

[oblique fractal]

@frail bay I'm no expert, but talonflame might be able to go with a berry and replacing either recoil move with protect

[pseudo fern]

What is vgc?

[random wagon]

its the official competitive Pokemon format where you make a team of six and bring 4 of them in a double battle.

There are restirctions as well. Right now we are using the Regulation H ruleset which allows every Pokemon that you can transfer into SV or get from the main story or DLC. As of now, every Legendary Pokemon is banned, but the format changes every few months

If you are looking to get into it, there is a very good website that was just made if you want me to show it to you

there is this: https://linktr.ee/newtovgc

and this:
https://vgcresources.com

[frail bay]

I will test it out.

[frail bay]

Runs really terribly for me. Having a flying sweeper + earthquake partner makes Talonflame a lot more threatening & berries come in play too late for them to be worth it in contrast to the omnipresent life orb.

That being said; I will keep Protect.

[sterile flame]

https://pokepast.es/bd6fd1f59c1399b7

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[sterile flame]

i feel like we're close to cooking but idrk

clefairy over clefable would work and I could put safety goggles on gyarados

[frail bay]

Clefable --> Cleafairy Evolite.

It's just better with better bulk + Friend Guard

After that if you want yeah just go as you said and give Gyra safety goggles

[wispy night]

https://pokepast.es/072398889ed0f6b6 opinion?

[drifting onyx]

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[oblique fractal]

I'd replace toadscruel with ammoongus @wispy night

[wispy night]

ok

[frail bay]

https://pokepast.es/eecb30df02cf4b8b

A team that abuses Thunder & Earthquake.

Decided to give Annihilape my Safety Goggles & opt for Air Balloon on Maushold to make it more usable without an Annihilape.

By usable I mean you can earthquake spam with me

Might switch out Follow Me for a Protect but other than that I think this is solid.

Whirlpool on Pelipper is a wildcard pick.

Although I will replace it with Protect.

This team counters hard trick room cores, follow me pretty well methinks.

[random wagon]

no offense but the sets are terrible

and chimeco has zero competitive viability

or close to it

[random wagon]

toedscruel should be dpult imo

use intimidate harc with rock slide over wild charge

run cover cloak whims

and use sunny day over TR

fix EVs too

tera water should work on it and run encore over protect

scarf is the only good adapt bascu

wave crash over protect

and use sash sneas

With 252/252 evs and jolly

[random wagon]

this is false

clefable is better right now thanks to unaware

which makes it counter dozogiri and with tera, you can beat arch

dont forget ape too

[lament rivet]

https://pokepast.es/6469993e3d56df1a

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[lament rivet]

I feel like i should make some changes to this team

Besides the Yanma ofc

[frail bay]

good partner with ursaluna due to levitate also just really good if you're earthquake spamming has access to support moves like heal, screens, imprison, tr, etc etc. & isn't double weak to fire aka torkoal

Granted it's stupid with the set I'm running.

But I believe Chimecho has a place in this meta.

[random wagon]

the set isnt stupid it is the pokemon itself

you can just ignore it since it doesnt actually DO much

unlike others like indeedee-f for example which run helping hand and actually do damage

so i guess it is kinda the set..

also why bring up ursa when you dont have one?

[soft nexus]

why Thunder on Annihilape? it has base 50 sp. Atk

if you want to keep an electric move, go Thunder punch

[oblique fractal]

Lmoa

[lament rivet]

💀💀

[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/2a8bc955fad8c3d3 any tips

[drifting onyx]

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[random wagon]

Safety goggles indeedee-f and gallade over sinistcha

[narrow dock]

Is Vikavolt OK?

[random wagon]

ye

[lament rivet]

So I changed the sets (https://pokepast.es/877333134a0c7cc6) and I'm going to say

You're never going to be using chimecho unless you're imprisoning tr

And when you do it's just....sitting here

I mean I guess you can run imprison, tr, cosmic power, stored power w/ leftovers????

[random wagon]

Id say miracle seed rilla or just running amoon is better

Then move AV to arch

And fix ape evs

And taunt over helping hand on maushold

[strong zealot]

https://pokepast.es/44c63dca4f8a175a

any last minutes replacements that i can get in either sword or scarlet for primarina and magmar ?

i am playing a local tomorrow and idk if i can get those mons in the next few hours lmao

i dont have any dlc btw so maybe bulky volcarona rage powder instead of magmar i was thinking ?

[random wagon]

pretty solid overall but the rilla evs need fixing

and prob just go tera dark on king

also adamant dpult

and tera steel/poison/grass on prim

[strong zealot]

honestly i did that at the start but tera ghost usually let me off 1 sword dance almost freely so

[random wagon]

i personally like steel for sneas, rilla, and ghold

[strong zealot]

what evs should i run on him ?

thanks for the tips btw

[random wagon]

252 HP/116 Atk/4 Def

and then hit 115 with speed

which i believe is 76 evs

and rest in spdef

[strong zealot]

ok i will have it in mind for rilla

btw do you think bulky volcarona would work instead of magmar

[random wagon]

then just go fire for magmar

magmar is generally better rn

[strong zealot]

not that its recommended but i dont have any other option for tomorrow lmao

[random wagon]

volc also has low physdef

[frail bay]

Thunder as coverage but thinking about it yeah thunder punch would've been better LMAO

[strong zealot]

what other redirector there is rn

[frail bay]

my brain forgot

[strong zealot]

like in scarlet

[frail bay]

😭

[strong zealot]

only other one i can get without dlc i think is maushold lmao

[random wagon]

yeah maus wont work

thunder punch ape isnt even good

coverage on ape in general isnt used at all

[wanton abyss]

nah thunder ape is cooking. Don’t listen to these fools.

In all seriousness I would start with “borrowing” (read: stealing) teams that already have results and preferably have team reports

[hushed coral]

https://pokepast.es/060ecd759fa56c5c
possibly the worst team i have ever crafted enjoy

[random wagon]

reg g is out of buisness

we are in reg h

[hushed coral]

rip

alright mb

[oak jungle]

https://pokepast.es/2d2d6c414a714101

[random wagon]

unfortunately no

also thats for battle stadium singles

not VGC

[frail bay]

https://pokepast.es/8293d257ac329a87

Weezing Team.

[drifting onyx]

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[oak jungle]

Thank you and noted!

[slow thorn]

https://pokepast.es/880f8c296b6b2b6c
Built my team with my second favourite starter and my favourite Pokémon just to see what it could do

[red mural]

https://pokepast.es/dcf906262538b1bd
Need help with my last pokemon. Tried using H-Lilligant but hasn't really helped me.

(It says DOU but I meant title to be for VGC)

[random wagon]

id say stick to h-lil or go zoro-h

[red mural]

Okay

[snow spindle]

https://pokepast.es/ec679454eda31795
need advice for moves and items

[snow spindle]

For VGC H

[lament rivet]

https://pokepast.es/1612f81bd7eec210
Sun team

[drifting onyx]

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[cerulean totem]

hi all, i'm back

https://pokepast.es/03a58f2056626f6b

my friend and i made this team and it seems solid, but idk about certain matchups tbh

[cerulean totem]

basc is very good for just straight up destroying teams that can't counter it, archaludon + beatup is a very strong wall, and amoonguss and farig are generally good support

[past harbor]

Flip turn is definitely better here over phantom force imo

[random wagon]

also tera ghost on peli

[cerulean totem]

i usually go covert cloak peli with 52 speed on teams with the ability to trick room due to the nice speed tier, yet i felt like tailwind is more useful than other support moves here so i decided to go full speed and at that point went sash, but i don't like the amoonguss mu too much without tera grass peli and farigiraf kind of helps with it anyway

i also think that i could switch amoonguss, double redirect isn't rly needed and i think i would benefit from fakeout from something like a rilla

but the only rilla set i am comfortable with is AV

[random wagon]

you prob keep guss

[tribal void]

https://pokepast.es/f3c26d737f747abe any ideas on what mons I could add? I was thinking about TR setters then thought of bronzong since it kinda spits in the face of ursaluna but I have no idea what mons would be good along side it

this team I also don't know if i should go down the "trick room as a speed control option against faster opponents" route or go with a trick room sweeper like ursa

[random wagon]

im not too fond of chomp on this team

your own ursa could actually be super solid there

spamming EQ next to bronzong while you use psychic to hit fighting types like ape and flamigo

also misty terrain+spore is anti synergy

if anything youd appreciate grassy terrain

taunt is probably better there to shut down opposing TR and imprision and opposing taunt

Then flamigo is nice since it hits steels and darks while hitting ghold

also hits grass

and finally dragonite or hydreigon for more EQ spam with ursa

Dropping grim for Kingambit is also a choice to consider

[tribal void]

rillaboom wouldn't fit this team

if i try eq spamming

wondering if a support volc would be worth it

redirects fighting type attacks

and i think i do need some way to beat dozo

even though its not popular rn

initially

the plan was to use bronzong as a bulky trick room denier that could also hit hard with bp + Idef and then have grimmsnarl use misty terrain to annoy opposing ursa while having chomp spam eq behind screens

but mons just didn't fit well, too many overlapping typings

[random wagon]

amoonguss is your dozo check

[random wagon]

im not saying rilla would fit this team

im saying dont use misty terrain with amoonguss

but if you want to remove terrain, ice spinner dnite is there

also only recommend one (and if you count kingambit 2) pokemon that caused type overlap, being flamigo and dnite (or bronzong and kingambit if you count it even though i dont think you need it)

more so one group of pokemon

[tribal void]

if i did slot on dnite wouldn't i have too much of an ice weakness with to ignore

[random wagon]

bronzong

and if you add it kingambit

plus ice is only seen on A9 as of now i think

[tribal void]

gambit would replace grimm right?

[random wagon]

ye

[tribal void]

if i ran both dnite and gambit, would it be better for gambit to have an av?

just expiramenting around

[random wagon]

prob go glasses or goggles gambit

and av dnite

[sleek zephyr]

https://pokepast.es/1a5ca15c8e6297cb any suggestions, This is my first attempt at baxcalibur balance in reg H. Im just looking for comp suggestions. I wanted to use rilla to play into rain, incin to play into any steel types mainly ghold, and ursaluna to play into tr i guess. I wanted to run bax as I have most experience with him from past regs last one I played being reg f

[sleek zephyr]

https://pokepast.es/c5e82360bb6d517b new team I got suggestions from a friend, I have calcs to do, but please let me know if you have any better ideas for my team that what it is now

[upbeat geode]

https://pokepast.es/dfeabbc0cbc9f0c4 A sun team full of underdogs! See any viability in it?

[oblique fractal]

Sun team? Where's the sun setter?

@upbeat geode

If you wanna use underdogs, maybe Ninetails?

[upbeat geode]

the sun setter is ambipom. Maxed out speed to get a sunny day off

[tough sleet]

https://pokepast.es/d584d4104497088d im js experimenting and wondering what i could do or change

switched greninja battle bond to torrent found out it's banned

[sleek zephyr]

1. No bulk maushold with follow me makes little sense
2. No tect on greninja with life orb, i would swap out shuriken with tect if keeping life orb or run scarf or band and still swap shuriken for something else.
3. Specs nasty plot and protect gholdengo cant work cuz of move lock obv. I would suggest taking orb off greninja and putting it on dengo if you want to keep nasty plot
4. Lots of 252 252 4 evs, i would do some calcs and fix to optimize

Also get wide guard off flamigo

[tough sleet]

1. should i js invest in hp for maushold then?
2. ill prbly swap to scarf, what should i swap with shuriken?
3. ill swap life orb to dengo
4. any resources u know i can use to do calcs?
   also what do i replace wide guard with

[random wagon]

ursaluna just feels random

i suggest tauros-aqua

clear amulet should be on baxcalibur, and also, Tera Flying? Ik its prob for ursaluna, but it should have one other use. I’d say Tera Posion or Tera Water are the best right now. Also, you can probably drop High Horsepower for Swords Dance on Baxcalbiur, since it really appreciates the power.

Moonblast is also a bit odd on A9 TBH, I’d say you drop it and run Encore/Disable/Freeze-Dry/Blizzard with Blizzard/Freeze-Dry

moonblast just isnt great rn

Life Orb can go to Gholdengo with the standard Nasty Plot moveset

Rillaboom can just be a standard AV set

Standard Safety Goggles Incin

also Tera Water A9

and Tauros-Aqua can hole Mirror Herb for the Kingambit MU

[waxen oyster]

just dropped in to ask a question. would fire+water pledge combo well with serene grace dudunsparce?

its a 120% para chance from body slam

[random wagon]

no

[waxen oyster]

imagine if it was. that would be hella funny

[soft nexus]

flamigo —> pelipper
so you can get those 1 turn e shots and all that good stuff (also gets wide guard)

[tough sleet]

what makes pelipper better than flamigo in the set? (genuine)

cuz idk what all the other good stuff is 😭

[tough sleet]

ok i understand why pelipper is good now

[tough sleet]

updated greninja set based on the feedback i got here https://pokepast.es/2bd0613a10e2785f

[drifting onyx]

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[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/e1503eb4f57dfcc5 how's this team

[lofty dove]

https://pokepast.es/2a654e8becbd035c Any suggestions, even if it's scrap it XD

[muted fable]

Is my team good? Im sorry if its bad i just got started

https://pokepast.es/a78aad96523c4b88

[drifting onyx]

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[oblique fractal]

Why psybeam over psychic or alluring voice? @muted fable

Also, it's fine, we all start somewhere! 👍

[wispy night]

https://pokepast.es/272a50a19fbd3229 is this good?

[oblique fractal]

@wispy night why two trick room setters but no trick room users?

[wispy night]

to turn off others trick room, they very hard to counter and annoying

[muted fable]

So i fixed my team

Wait

https://pokepast.es/c986b406e4ec3eb2

I kinda got lazy with farigarafs tera

Any suggestions?

Thanks

😄

[novel wraith]

https://pokepast.es/981d556c9ce93843

[sleek zephyr]

https://pokepast.es/fcae7ab003d0a01d this is the team ive been practicing rn i replaced ursaluna with electabuzz for redirection and speed control with e web. There are tons of dragons running around and my first thought was moonblast cause i was scared of blizzards innnacuracy. I was also thinking freeze dry cuz rain. (Forgot to change tera on a couple mons)

[novel wraith]

• tera ghost pult over ape since your team is super ghold weak, its cb over specs bc ur team is otherwise entirely specially offensive
• sinistcha now outspeeds sneasler in tw, otherwise spread is about the same
• pelipper should almost always be sash offensive, which it is now here
• archaludon is now able to outspeed prim alongside all the other arch stuff, youre slightly weaker rn so you can move 80spd to spa if you want
• bluna doesnt change much, it now just outspeeds ghold in tw
• farig is the reg f spread but if it werent for the fact bluna is on this team it wouldve been p2; you could put pnoise over psychic if you want but in that case id make farig weaker

[novel wraith]

ill be honest you should probably change your atails set, blizzard despite being inaccurate out of snow is bonkers stupid and you struggle with dragons anyway rn so that would be better into them. i think your main core is kinda antisynergetic rn bc balance typically requires much more offensive supportive cores but atails bax doesnt really give that? you also lack momentum on your balance core which is required for it to work anyway

youre also slower than sneasler and pult, which you need to be able to do or at least speedtie pult to have a chance in this meta

(i know certain bulky structures have fake out spam + tr but those try to outspeed the two listed anyway)

i can get you in contact with someone who has been using bax atails though

[sleek zephyr]

I would appreciate it

I have used bax in the past and dont plan on wanting to use anyone else. I have some experience but i have only been playing for fun. How do I add "momentum" to my core i also dont know how to really build a synergistic core.

[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/21ae8efc142b6fa8 how's this team

[tribal void]

https://pokepast.es/bc893f71fee57e75 this is a joke team kind of but i also find the idea very funny to use what TR setter should i use

[drifting onyx]

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[tribal void]

ive never played around with weakness policy stuff

cause its always gimmicky

[random wagon]

Id say use bronzong and use EQ on rhyperior

[nimble siren]

I have a few questions

I haven’t played in a few months, so theoretically if im making a TR team what is meta?

[random wagon]

i’ll show you some archetypes

https://pokepast.es/5fa87a0596a6b72c - rain is super dominant in the format, but has kinda fallen off. These teams consist of mostly the six listed above, but may aldo include Rillaboom, Kingambit, Gholdengo, or even Salamence.

https://pokepast.es/17c93fe406a624f8 - probably the best TR team right now, consisting of P2 with Ursaluna under TR. Sneasler can be used over Flamigo for Fake Out, and a faster redirection option in Vivillon is an option. A faster version with Garchomp and some other picks can be found here: https://pokepast.es/e05731a68ba6ebb2

https://pokepast.es/ba91b0aa57470f98 - dozogiri. Need i say less? Also you can ask choruto.

https://pokepast.es/2ef6af19377f742a - this is known as sneasler balance, probably the best team right now. Basically, two of the fastest attackers hit hard and put you to sleep (sneasler being annoying). Magmar or Volcarona can be used as well over Electabuzz, while solo dozo or tauros-aqua can be used over primarina.

Hope this helps!

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[zinc turret]

thanks pengu

[cinder glacier]

https://pokepast.es/f45e3a36cd8229c3

[lofty dove]

https://pokepast.es/2a654e8becbd035c Any suggestions 😄

[soft nexus]

we have sneasler stuff running around, maybe try porygon2 it fits your team really well
(or just copy this team LMAO https://pokepast.es/a20d6221b4d82eca)

[lofty dove]

https://pokepast.es/7e099e5bbe7c8180 I just made this horrible update to it

[rocky egret]

https://pokepast.es/b4218f2cf87b9228 made this kommo-o team

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[rocky egret]

also uhhh safety goggles on ape instead of leftovers cuz item clause

[novel wraith]

this looks fine outside of bloodmoon which doesnt really fit at all, id probably use rillaboom instead to give a fake out pivot core or just to be a strong attacker; up to u on the item but id use cb/scarf or grassy seed (choice item i only mention bc of sneasler and garchomp being seemingly annoying + it slots uturn better). also some of the spreads should change but ill just do them now

https://pokepast.es/fdd73d393da1ba42 scarf paste
https://pokepast.es/6f2721496d34d829 cb paste
https://pokepast.es/e6bb6e3c963f293a mseed paste

[novel wraith]

this has ideas and i can respect them but this doesnt really fit well together? cinderace is notoriously bad in doubles and while in singles i can easily see cind torkoal fill working in doubles its outclassed entirely. if you do want to go that route though then you need to be choice band so you can do some meaningful damage. also hazards generally are pretty bad so id not use them, same with triple fire. the biggest thing though is that ursaluna is really awkward to slot properly, ive tried to make it work for the past 20min but physically cannot succeed with ursaluna as the team then needs trick room users like porygon2, then support pokemon, chlorophyll users, and pivots all in 2 slots while ALSO covering for amoonguss. its a nightmare and generally i dont think ursaluna is the play here

ill look at the others later or tomorrow unless someone else more qualified gets to them first

[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/cf7b09eab44aad5f how's this team

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[austere folio]

hi I'm pretty new to teambuilding I wanted to try something weird
https://pokepast.es/a80b49e54d283974

the main idea behind it was manually using prankster psyterrain given that rillaboom is everywhere

[lofty dove]

I updated it a little, https://pokepast.es/7e099e5bbe7c8180 I appreciate you insight and agree thats what I'm seeing from practical use on Showdown, Cinderace just isn't great and I never pick him up

[austere folio]

I tried it, its way too slow so now im trying Indeedee M with a similar moveset

[austere folio]

https://pokepast.es/783702b99a3226f2

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[neat otter]

https://pokepast.es/991a550ff6df6c2d

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[oblique fractal]

Maybe replace goldengo with exca?

[random wagon]

if your going sabd drop rilla for guss

since the terrain is bad for chomp

[novel wraith]

tflame and ttar are antisynergetic and same with rilla and chomp, this needs major reworks before i can comment further unfortunately

[novel wraith]

the concept is cool but this doesnt really work i think, you have a mix of ideas that on paper work together but in practice cause a mess. gravity doesnt really work here because all the steels bar corv hate bluna anyway + you dont have anything to take advantage of it fully like hynosis gengar or similar. incin also doesnt really synergise well sadly. ive used a similar-ish team before with delphox over reuniclus and then scarf indeedee but a major issue is often that it thuds into rain without whimsicott.

basically just right now its hard to get anywhere since i dont know the team idea but just say what youre building around and we'll go from there

[novel wraith]

its hard to rate gimmick 2-2-2 teams i cant lie, but the biggest thing is that it looks very hard to make this consistently work? i think this is the type of team where you need to test it yourself before suggestions can be made, but the biggest thing i can note is that your speed control and sneasler matchup are both pretty rough? id definitely make tatsugiri scarf as a result and then allow archaludon to outspeed incineroar (so hit 124 speed on it)

[novel wraith]

other than the kommo-o set seeming terrible into prim and ghold this looks honestly fine, id use tera blast electric on kommo as a result over asphere and actually make sinistcha faster by hitting 97 speed but otherwise this seems fine, hf

oh actually give gholdengo trick over dgleam to ease the dozogiri matchup, that way you can render dozo semi-useless and allow for easier setup to then clean once dozo drops

[lofty dove]

@novel wraith this poor dood doing gods work

[neat otter]

https://pokepast.es/91441d7a857ffb4e fiexed a bit, anything to change?

[novel wraith]

i think you do want a second fire type here, try using porygon2, jumpluff, kilowattrel, and typhlosion-hisui over your last fourr as i see the ideas here, and then try these sets instead https://pokepast.es/0a0d48a29dee7c6d

i cant promise this is the best since trying to find an intim-punishing flying type is awkward but this should be more consistent

wouldve loved to try to make something that doesnt lean towards sun as much but it happens

you can use indeedee-f over pory2 here also as that will give you anti-prio but obv thats frailer overall and will want tera flying still

heres a version with indeedee https://pokepast.es/cc9cbf9fb7613b19

[novel wraith]

can you fit a flying type somewhere? that way you can use eq on chomp which is significantly better than rslide (tflame wasnt bad but ttar made it significantly worse without safety goggles at least)

also remember to make ttar not boost its spa

[random wagon]

you can possibly try corv over ghold

for EQ spam

[lofty dove]

you put 0 evs on Killo

[novel wraith]

intentionally because i dont know the most optimal evs, you can hit like 190spe and then id just find a specific calc u like

[lofty dove]

Ah Ic

[novel wraith]

im not home rn so its hard to properly do evs

[lofty dove]

All good my b

[novel wraith]

you can always go with 252/252 but you may find minor ev investment to help in some areas

ur good

the biggest thing i can think of is maybe incin ohko @ +2 if possible?

but if not then dont worry

the minimum is +2 aslash ohkoing amoonguss

[oblique fractal]

A slash?

[vale thorn]

https://pokepast.es/1d05ca147819dddb

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[austere folio]

is this anything
https://pokepast.es/935d89f2340f8966

(an updated version of the last team I posted)

[novel wraith]

air slash

[oblique fractal]

I thought you meant Aegislash, lmao

[novel wraith]

no lol

[random wagon]

this gimmick is rather unreliable, as something like paralysis or sleep can beat lum berry

and cinderace isnt the best abuser

[random wagon]

while it’s cool, your better off using tera blast over focus blast on reun because…

yknow

but anyways

tera dragon prim is really weak into sneas dpult things

tera steel or posion work, or grass for spore

Flamigo should be holding sash

and use indeedee-f

Wide guard over tailwind as well

and tera ghost

[novel wraith]

just realised i pinged the wrong person but this hasnt changed much to make me rewrite what i put here #1059704283072831499 message

tldr team is messy and clashes

if i were to make changes id remove bluna incin and flamigo, add sneasler, and then make indeedee fast while dropping gravity since its kinda doing nothing. fill out the rest team with two terrain-independent mons that arent troubled by terrain being up (e.g. two pivots)

[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/d6d35001ad901072
https://pokepast.es/ea8e79b4274ec207
Which is better

[random wagon]

neither

they are both gimmicks>:(

[soft nexus]

1. why cud chew on farigiraf
2. this team isn’t the team for archaludon and you’re using a physical move on a special Pokémon

this team looks a bit rushed

[austere folio]

yeah I figured lol

[austere folio]

what would you reccomend? I kinda had flamigo to deal with stuff like dark types and rillaboom which both are annoying against my psyspam and as a fast mon that can set tailwind if I found tr unviable

and had bluna in since it's just solid and works in tr

I usually try leading reuniclus incin to fake out tr and then bring in indeedee to set terrain

at least that's my thought process

[austere folio]

ohh I see

yeah I wanted to build around reuniclus originally

with the life orb tr psyspam

[austere folio]

mostly because i really like reuniclus 👉 👈

and I like magic guard life orb

[gentle lagoon]

hiiiiii im gonna try to get back into vgc i havent played reg h and i wanted to try psysun :) im using gallade and torkoal kinda reluctantly cause remember seeing them on psysun and couldnt think of alternatives so if there are better options or just fun alternatives pls tell me https://pokepast.es/8fba9e1d62f95356

[random wagon]

the team is actually really good

a few things i recommend are life orb on hatterene and earth power over body press on torkoal

[gentle lagoon]

alright ty :)

[bitter meteor]

https://pokepast.es/39c88fcecb908048 is there hope for this team

[novel wraith]

no

[steady loom]

hello, i am very new to doubles and experimenting a lot with the regulation h format. i'm testing this team right now and it seems to be relatively consistent? https://pokepast.es/522aca0bc6c6c319

would really appreciate feedback! i think maybe i should change dragapult to the standard choice band set but i kind of like telepathy + surf. am also considering wind power on kilowattrel since tailwind is everywhere + this is a tailwind team. also considering subbing dragapult for av basculegion

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[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/1fa5943b25849ea3
Any changes I should make

[random wagon]

no offense but this team just isnt good

[steady loom]

no offense taken! is the main issue that it is too gimmicky? ive been using gholdengo & kilowattrel as the main offense and it seems reliable in (low ladder) bo1 but i havent tested it in bo3 yet

[random wagon]

yeah gimmicks dont fair well in vgc

noivern and special dragapult just arent good either

and the rest of the sets arent great

[steady loom]

noted, thanks for the feedback! i'll go back to the drawing board with it ^^

[random wagon]

if your really new look for samples

to get a feel for the meta and fundamentals of double battles

[steady loom]

yeah i definitely need to invest more time into learning the fundamentals, thank you for the response!

[quick isle]

https://pokepast.es/62d22efcd36e1c83 wtf is electabuzz

[pseudo current]

https://pokepast.es/bea1a22c61f4d0e3

I need help making this beat prim

the clefable seems to be handling dondozo well because of unaware, same w gambit and nasty plot gholdengo and also amoongus bc of goggles

the glaceon A9 and arcanine core is based on articuno spam back in reg G and the zong/ursa is meant to handle other tr teams, and fire teams, and also beat archaludon

all of the main threats feel covered except sneasler to some degree and prim

is the answer to just drop clef for rilla?

[cinder glacier]

How about Sneasler

[bitter meteor]

😭

[novel wraith]

id be more concerned abt sneasler but you easily handle prim with aveil up

rilla loses harder to sneasler than clef

[analog notch]

Pokepaste isn’t working for me, so can I just put my team here?

Oop, wrong channel

[soft nexus]

I just played something like that(except they had hydreigon instead of bronzong and I can’t remember the rest) and won with Kingambit & Sneasler. Adding on to what tier enabler said, you should improve your hindering weakness to steel fighting and poison, because steels are very common right now. Maybe try using Gallade? I don’t know really

[bitter meteor]

https://pokepast.es/57c44b5d6d239eb8 having a bit of trouble dealing with whimsicott and typhlosion

[tough sleet]

continued experimentation w greninja in vgc https://pokepast.es/310c81ccad9426b1

[bitter meteor]

between protean and battle bond u took torrent?

[tough sleet]

battle bond is banned in vgc

also i swapped to protean

[random wagon]

what is stantler doing here

[random wagon]

i feel like sash or a choice item on greninja would be best

like specs

[tough sleet]

i got sash on pelipper so i can get tailwind off

and lwk i kinda dont fw choice items idk why 😭

[tough sleet]

i did have choice specs on greninja before but ig i js wanna be able to pick moves and not get locked into a move

[bitter meteor]

annihlape partner sets trick room, shore up defenses with intimidate and screen, trigger defiant and disrupt enemies through skill swap

[random wagon]

have you considered life orb?

[random wagon]

yeah but

it’s still ass:(

[bitter meteor]

is it? idk with eviolite he does pretty well

anyway u got any ideas for how to beat typhlosion and whimsicott?

[random wagon]

you prob replace ghold

since both it and ape are weak to ghost

so probably incineroar

like a assault vest set

[bitter meteor]

hmm

yeah maybe ghold

[random wagon]

Incineroar @ Assault Vest
Level: 50
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 244 HP / 60 Atk / 44 Def / 44 SpD / 116 Spe
Tera Type: Grass
Adamant Nature

• Flare Blitz
• Knock Off
• Fake Out
• U-turn

you can try that over ghold

[bitter meteor]

actually

[tough sleet]

gave it to gholdengo

[bitter meteor]

what do u think about reg typhlosion

with flash fire

and then that can be my speed control

outside of trickroom

[random wagon]

regular typhlosion doesnt do much outside of the typhlosion matchup so i wouldnt use it

[random wagon]

i cant read lmao

um

i feel like the item can be ok for now then

but slot protect kver tera blast

And maybe use tera ghost

[bitter meteor]

the thing is i can beat most match ups

[random wagon]

incin is just more versatile

also does better into psyspam

which isnt a great MU for you

[quick isle]

https://pokepast.es/09a6a0aeead8dc57

A concept team. I think lilligant is getting walked all over and I lack coverage to an extreme degree. Any recommended remedies would be helpful

[tough sleet]

i like tera ghost idea but i think im okay without protect?

i have other mons id rather give protect idk

[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/7f1eb6823d46b9a3 how's this team

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[jovial creek]

being completely honest, not very good

I think its too gimmicky

maybe make dengo specs

you could also change rillabooam

[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/f7f5c6413bc700f6 how about this

[north ginkgo]

https://pokepast.es/e1442de345d8374d

any notes on this team?

[random wagon]

it feels too honest in a sense

it needs some

rng

cough sneasler cough cough

[north ginkgo]

im tryna build my team to counter sneasler lol

[random wagon]

in all seriousness you prob use it over rilla or amoon

or use buzz over amoon

[soft nexus]

you don’t run rillaboom and amongus on the same team

[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/022753aeafe42825 how's this team

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[snow summit]

https://pokepast.es/264fc3e824f5871f thoughts on my reg h team?

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[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/03801d53cd8a7d09
https://pokepast.es/0147f4cfe63bbaaf
Which team is better

[soft nexus]

interesting that you’re running earthquake cuz you don’t have a flying type, try replacing incin with talonflame

[random wagon]

i feel like having two EQ spammers is a bit much

maybe replace chomp with something like corv?

and maybe keep incin

or

actually

replace chomp with salamence

and replace incin for a different pokemon

[snow summit]

is there anyway i can keep chomp?

sand veil has been working great for me

[snow summit]

i will. but i thought incin was like a must for vgc. also double fake out lead goes so hard

not trying to say your advice is bad or anything, im just trying to understand the changes before i make them

[quick isle]

https://pokepast.es/91af2ad66373117d
Ive played a couple games, and I havent had a loss yet that felt like the team was weak, but just inexperience or bad decision making

[jovial creek]

I think you could go for sash liligant as a work around for its bad bulk that also lets you switch moves

[oblique fractal]

Heatwave over flamethrower on typhlosion @quick isle

Earth power over ancient power if you want
And if you go sash like he said, add sleep powder, you won't regret it

[quick isle]

A rock move has been really working out for me well so I wanted to keep it. Idk if there are any alternatives

[oblique fractal]

Could use stone edge if you aren't modest

[quick isle]

I'll look into this when I'm home

[unkempt anvil]

https://pokepast.es/ad335b0462f6c1bd

Decided to get back into Reg H, and this is me old team. I was wondering if there's a way to replace annihilape and maus with pokemon that fill in similar roles without having to completely overhaul the team to account for coverage and stuff, is this possible?

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[soft nexus]

incin has fallen off a lot because of kingambit and annihilape

[snow summit]

midcineroar

[random wagon]

incin is still amazing btw

but it has fallen off a bit

[oblique fractal]

It's main flaw is just that it doesn't last long compared to other support mons

[random wagon]

That is not true

if positioned correctly incin can stay on the field for a very long time

and it lasts long thanks to it using parting shot and uturn to pivot arround, cycling intimidate and fake out

[wanton abyss]

nah, Incin is not as good as it was now. Its damage control options are either taken advantage of or ignored by the most common attackers in the format. Fake Out and pivoting options are still good, but two generations of consistent anti-intimidate hate has hurt our favorite cat

still holds a place as the only mon with fake out pivoting and intimidate, so role compression is nice

[random wagon]

it can still last long though

i agree it has fallen off a bit

[oblique fractal]

Idk, every time I've used it, it didn't last

Like non-priority parting shot Hurts

[twilit swallow]

https://pokepast.es/948426494889db9c

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[oblique fractal]

Why not belly drum?

[unkempt anvil]

I'm still looking for suggestions if possible ^^

[jovial creek]

What do you want to add

[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/b95eac3f767e5af3
How's this team

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[jovial creek]

Pretty standard sunroom, i think low kick>jab on gambit though

[jovial creek]

It's still very good

[soft nexus]

https://pokepast.es/92ec6ae247a4bae4 help me plz I need help

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[random wagon]

even if meows is the center point of the team

it doesnt really work here with amoonguss

and sash already being used

i feel like p2 would be a decent replacement

[soft nexus]

I replaced it with primarina

[random wagon]

yeah that should work too

[narrow dock]

Can someone please give me a recommendation for an electric type for a sun room team

[astral osprey]

Rotom heat?

[unkempt anvil]

https://pokepast.es/4aad1ec69c971e0b
ppl shouldn't let me try making teams, this is horrific. Anything I should change? Trying to make a psyspam team cuz I lack the brains to properly play anything else

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[random wagon]

If your shooting for psyspam and your using arma

You probably want to use torkoal over pelipper for sun

Use gallade as a fighting type over sneasler

And finally, prim and Archaludon can be replaced with hatterene and ursaluna

That would be standard psyspam

[unkempt anvil]

Thanks! You have any suggestions for sets?

[random wagon]

Well starting with indeedee and arma

Indeedee should be holding safety goggles

And arma should drop energy ball for meteor beam and run power herb

For gallade

And for the rest of the pokemon actually

You can prob just check pikalytics

[unkempt anvil]

okok

same site for ev spreads?

[random wagon]

Ye

[unkempt anvil]

wait a minute, regular or bloodmoon?

[random wagon]

regular

[unkempt anvil]

https://pokepast.es/27ed22f1696fe143 (indeedee's nature and IVs are wrong in this paste. She's Relaxed with 0 speed IVs)

so here the team, this good?

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[cinder glacier]

https://pokepast.es/409d4a30b8bd9cd9

[random wagon]

yeah thats good

[soft nexus]

current format is reg h, show this team when reg h ends

[unkempt anvil]

Nice
Do you think this is something good to be used at a tournament or something?

[random wagon]

Also depends on your level as a player

[unkempt anvil]

I'm a beginner with not much skill, hence why I picked a psyspam team

[upbeat geode]

Here's a thought: a team revolving around Cyclizar's gimmicks! Also low-key a rain team? Thoughts?
https://www.falinks-teambuilder.com/pastes/cm2u17xss0000ksw9x8f4o4lc/

[random wagon]

4/6 of those pokemon are just bad

and the other two are kinda bad and decent (blastoise and politoed)

[upbeat geode]

I mean, the idea for me is to use underutilized mons

[past harbor]

Underutilized for a good reason

Because bad

[random wagon]

The pokemon are random

they arent anti meta either unlike other unique picks like drifblim and toxtricity

[unkempt anvil]

https://pokepast.es/9a3790808a6e20b5 (Female Indeedee has a wrong move. It's meant to have Helping Hand instead of psych up)
https://pokepast.es/63da6f0459b0b3e5

Didn't like playing trick room psyspam, so I made this but thought it would be fun to try and make a version with the opposide gender indeedee. Is either of these worth trying out? What can I improve?

[drifting onyx]

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[gaunt verge]

https://pokepast.es/f94b37161efe5d69 I made this appletun team, somewhat using old Ferrothorn vgc sets as a building block with the leech seed wall concept, incin as debuffer to help apple live longer, palafin as damage, I’m using male indeedee to deal with anhilape since I’m seeing a lot of them right now, I’m iffy on rhyperior and some what gholdengo

[north tree]

• Indeedee makes almost 0 sense on this team. You block your own Fake Out and Jet Punch while being a frail offensive sweeper not able to benefit much from Intimidate.

• Palafin in general is quite underused in vgc due to its high setup cost, paired with Appletun and Gholdengo the team becomes incredibly slow paced. The Palafin set is also not running protect or taking advantage of Palafin's best tool in haze. Jet Punch Wave Crash Haze and Protect are the standard set should you choose to run Palafin.

• Rhyperior??? Not exactly much on the team that justifies having it on.

• Appletun in general needs a lot more support to not be worse than the likes of Amoonguss or Rillaboom on this team. Gholdengo's presence alone makes Appletun look near useless as Gholdengo can setup better than it can.

• A general lack of offense on the team holds it back, I would recommend starting from scratch if you wish to use Appletun. Appletun isn't a very viable pokemon but it can be seen working defensively on teams that function with heavy offense and use it as an endgame win condition.

[unkempt anvil]

Heya, still looking for some input regarding this team!
I kinda feel like the 'mons are all a little disconnected and don't interact well with each other with the exception of, Archaludon and Pelipper (and maybe Vivillon benefitting from rain)

[gaunt verge]

Aight thank you very much

[shell palm]

https://pokepast.es/b1a4c7144aa979f3
The second one seems similar to this Top 32 Team from Lillie. I suggest to use some of those ideas to improve the team. For example Basculegion and Amoonguss over Prima and Vivillon

[drifting onyx]

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[unkempt anvil]

https://pokepast.es/92f3c3a30570b0d8
just not a big fan of Indeedee's EVs, should I just go for max speed and spa since it's choice scarf?

[shell palm]

Definitely

[unkempt anvil]

so +spe, -spa, max spe/spa, 4 on hp?

also about Arch's stat spread. I gave it enough speed to, under tailwind, outspeed Dragapult. Is this a good choice or should I invest those points elsewhere?

[untold badge]

https://pokepast.es/673bd3b7e688747b
I dont know what to add I am going for a sun team and this is my first team

[ornate cloak]

https://pokepast.es/20152ac22942b305

Decorate strats

[slow thorn]

New team I made earlier. It is a bunch of gimmicks, but it’s been working pretty well so far because of its adaptability https://pokepast.es/045bfaf80a3b8f66

Incineroars never expect Upper Hand, and they only need to fall for it once

[ornate cloak]

Spicy Extract
https://pokepast.es/3e644a82d8b4c385

[drifting onyx]

New [Gen 9] VGC RMT @normal stream, @wanton abyss, @keen escarp, @jovial creek. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[narrow dock]

https://pokepast.es/cd0258bafa2196b8

How's this

[random wagon]

sand teams like having EQ spam and rillaboom goes against that so i would run amoonguss there

and you prob switch out drifblim for a different flying type like corviknight but it can be smth else

you dont really need SD on garchomp if you run life orb

which you should have

and then you can run stomping tantrum over SD and dragon claw over scale shot

also why houndstone when you have scarf bascu or excadrill

houndstone just isnt good rn unfortunately

[unkempt anvil]

https://pokepast.es/d1881b4d40db35c4

ok so are these movesets good? Also wanna ask about Arch's EV spread, since it's kind of a mess, but I really want it to outspeed Pult when under Tailwind

[drifting onyx]

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[jovial creek]

Moves at good but I'm not sure about the rest

Arch can be really flexible with how you ev it

[unkempt anvil]

Is it with the Pokémon themselves? Is there any blatant weakness I should consider when swapping mons?

[jovial creek]

Mainly teras

[unkempt anvil]

I see

[bitter meteor]

https://pokepast.es/5b5124c71955b89a thoughts?

[unreal arch]

https://pokepast.es/7a7e5a5cd2c1605d going for a sand team with ttar and excadrill, been doing good on battle stadium, I need some guidance on specific ev spreads for these guys

[unreal arch]

Gambit
Swords dance & protect > Stealth rock & brick break

[bitter meteor]

🤔 ill replace brick break with swords dance but i wanna keep rocks to consistently beat typhlosion

[unreal arch]

Stealth rock isn’t good in vgc

6v6 it’s great but in 4v4 doubles it doesn’t accomplish anything when battles only last 7-10 turns

[bitter meteor]

well i brought kingambit in mostly as a secondary option to annihlape who can beat typhlosion and whimsicott which has been beating me

so if i see typhlosion i lead kingambit

if typhlosion is ont he field great if he isnt i just stealth rock and the threat of typhlosion is dead before it switches in