#VGC Rates

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keen escarp
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Change nature on Pelipper to Modest/Timid.
Add more bulk to Archaludon imo, you don't really need max speed.
You are wasting EVs on Palafin

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You also don't need Tera Grass on Goggles Inci. Water/Ghost or even Dragon is better

cinder glacier
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Aquaman (Palafin) (M) @ Mystic Water
Ability: Zero to Hero
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Jet Punch
  • Haze
  • Wave Crash
  • Protect
brazen flicker
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https://pokepast.es/73cad6e98081f840 for regulation H
Bit New to Scarlet and Violet competitive although I've watched a ton of videos on it. with the help of tutorials and another person decided on this team, i really wanted to use Illumise and Ribombee and that's the idea i had going into building this. decided on a sun team after much deliberation. thoughts on this?

teal fiber
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torkoal

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doesnt have drought

brazen flicker
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i know i just forgot to put it on

teal fiber
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does choice specs ribombee hit important kill ranges?

brazen flicker
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i haven't calc'd that yet, sorry

teal fiber
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there is a lot of stuff over the place

brazen flicker
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any suggestions? i would like to try and keep illumise and ribombee

teal fiber
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first of all id start playing the team and see what works and what doesnt

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personally Id move to a trick room team, if you like that
with ribombee as alternative fast sweeper

brazen flicker
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I did, I have a problem with good switch ins I guess, none of them can really tank a good move or that may be a skill issue

brazen flicker
teal fiber
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why not both?

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you can look at others torkoal lilligant tr teams and take some stuff

teal fiber
brazen flicker
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That's true, I like that, when I was playing the team Illumise was doing good support with prankster sunny day /encore/ tailwind but now that I'm moving to trick room I probably need to replace tailwind lmao

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Maybe since Im moving to trick room + sun I could replace ceruledge for armarouge?

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Indeedee in for psychic terrain and to help with expanding force

teal fiber
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one more psyspam is born

brazen flicker
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I can't help it lol, it's fun to play

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I was thinking of also replacing h-lilligant for regular lilligant

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Still gets after you but also can provide support to other mons with pollen puff and can be really good with solar beam

teal fiber
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indeede is just so good in tr teams
terrain, redirection and trick room setter

brazen flicker
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i do like that, of course my team would be Illumise, Lilligant, Armarouge, Torkoal, Ribombee so far

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Im guessing that H-Lilligant would still be better?

teal fiber
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im not really sure how normal lilligant plays tbh
id tinker around with both

brazen flicker
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alright, will do, im starting to think that perhaps ribombee would be better off as something else lol

teal fiber
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both lilligant act as fast sun sweepers

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if you need ribombee coverage, it could still work

brazen flicker
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is there another fairy type that would work better in this scenario? is still have to get a 6th team member too

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i wanna say hatterene, lol, but i have a shiny gardevoir ive been wanting to use

teal fiber
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hattarene is the fairy tipe of choice yeah, but its more for magic bouce than anything

brazen flicker
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alcremie maybe?

teal fiber
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but who cares about coverage when you can spam expanding force

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what does alrcreami do

brazen flicker
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decorate i was just throwing ideas out

teal fiber
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uhh I like aroma veil with setting trick room

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no disable or taunt

brazen flicker
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decorate and aroma veil would be nice

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i probably need another pokemon with trick room

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oh wait i have indeedee

teal fiber
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armarouge and indeedee both run it

brazen flicker
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so these are the pokemon i have so far

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teal fiber
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alcreami + armarouge is a devious leaf if opponent has no answers

brazen flicker
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yea, real, lol, just trick room and decorate and sweep

teal fiber
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i think you want a physical attacker

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so much special

brazen flicker
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should i have physical?

teal fiber
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ursaluna, lilligant h, gallade

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one of those I think

brazen flicker
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yea, so maybe don't use regular lilligant lmao

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i could put psyshock on Alcremie?

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Decorate/Dazzling Gleam/Recover/Psyshock with leftovers?

teal fiber
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i dont think you need more psysich damage lol

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nor recover

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alcreami doesnt have much bulk

brazen flicker
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its pretty good on the special side

teal fiber
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yeah I agree

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can run recover

brazen flicker
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Decorate/D-Gleam/Recover/Protect?

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Tera Ghost?

teal fiber
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i like that set

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tera is kinda last thing after youve done the whole team

stone mortar
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Alcremie seeing usage in VGC makes me happy ngl

brazen flicker
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yea, alcremie is one of my favorites

stone mortar
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Respectable choice 🫡

brazen flicker
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this is what i have rn tho

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teal fiber
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indeedee ability

brazen flicker
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always forget something lol, thanks

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fixed it

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figured that fake tears is better over tailwind to weaken some pokemon before a big special attack

stone mortar
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Good thinking

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I saw that used with Archaludon on a rain team once

brazen flicker
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That seems really interesting actually lol

stone mortar
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I got whalloped by it lmao

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I took some notes tho

brazen flicker
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is there something on my team that could counter that?

teal fiber
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remove the rain with torkoal pivoting

stone mortar
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Yeah that would cripple arch just by it being there

brazen flicker
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oh yea, for sure

teal fiber
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since torkoal is slower, if both peli and torkoal get in at the same time, sun will be up

stone mortar
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Thats why I run spe- nature and min speed on all my torkoal sets lol

brazen flicker
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illumise could counter it if she's out

stone mortar
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Oh yeah bc prankster sunny day, didnt see that

brazen flicker
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yup

stone mortar
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Then yeah you're good against that

brazen flicker
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im just loving the fact that im gonna use illumise lmao

stone mortar
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I was running a Rain TR team at the time tho so I was kinda screwed 😭

brazen flicker
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i was testing out this team, and i was sweeping a guy with armarouge and indeedee because they protected both mons turn 1 for some reason, got me free trick room, so i just helping hand boosted expanding forced and eventually they left lmao

teal fiber
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dazzling gleam tera fairy is the norm for indeedee

plain brook
brazen flicker
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oh it is? i thought they usually ran psychich

brazen flicker
plain brook
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Can you rate mines

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teal fiber
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everything else looks perfect

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aside EV

brazen flicker
teal fiber
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lemme recheck items

stone mortar
wild sinew
plain brook
plain brook
wild sinew
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I think you'll find most success with it on Trick Room Psychic Terrain stuff

teal fiber
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could run power herb meteor beam on armarouge

brazen flicker
teal fiber
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since alrcreamy can stop secondary effects with her ability

brazen flicker
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in place of heat wave maybe?

teal fiber
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cant spell that pokemon name correctly for my life

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either heat wave or armour cannon

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ye

brazen flicker
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i replaced heat wave

brazen flicker
teal fiber
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uhh

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a lot

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i can do some later when I got time

stone mortar
brazen flicker
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i was using suggested EV's on showdown lmao as placeholders

random wagon
teal fiber
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but its mostly speed tiers and kill ranges/EV bumps

brazen flicker
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oh yea yea, sorry gimme a sec

teal fiber
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rarely useful

brazen flicker
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they have lied to me

random wagon
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the showdown EVs are based off of singles

brazen flicker
brazen flicker
random wagon
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ok so illumise is actually terrible

teal fiber
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its kinda whimsicott just worse

random wagon
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probably be better off with hatterene to lean further into the trick room psyspam aspect of the team

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even whims feels weird here

teal fiber
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I agree but the he likes it

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who are we to stop a triner

random wagon
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might as well lean into the sunspam TR aspect

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Ok thats true

teal fiber
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i mean, if it doesnt work he will figure it out himself

random wagon
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probably change recover on alcremie to helping hand

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the rest seems fine aside from EVs

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indeedee-f can probably run 252 HP/252 Def/4 SpDef with bold nature

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and torkoal surely runs max spatk with a quiet nature and 0 speed IVs

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and tbh lilligant should be fine

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you really dont need bulk in it thanks to sash

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unless your trying to survive a specific double up

brazen flicker
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any replacement suggestions for illumise? i wanted to use it becase i just really liked the idea, but everyone i talk to seems against it

random wagon
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probably hatterene

brazen flicker
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didn't mean to seem ignorant lol, just liked the idea is all

random wagon
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yeah i understand

brazen flicker
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gimme 1 sec, adjusting stuff

brazen flicker
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fixed evs and replaced illumise with hat holding life orb

plain brook
random wagon
brazen flicker
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oh woops my bad lmao

random wagon
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since there isnt an established meta the evs should be fine for now

brazen flicker
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thanks for the help

pseudo vessel
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I made this on a whim

random wagon
# pseudo vessel https://pokepast.es/b148689e3fb7cffe

first of all, those dondozo EVs simply dont work. I find that hitting enough speed to outspeed max speed base 100s after the dondozo boosts works to get you started.

you can probably run more bulk on tatsu, probably just try to outrun +1 kommo-o and/or dpult. This will be possible once we add the choice scarf over specs. Amoonguss will also be a lot easier if you drop hydro pump for sleep talk.

The Archaludon EVs arent very good tbh, also tera electric just makes tiu super scared of ursa-b, so tera grass there helps immensely. You might want to consider Draco Meteor over Dragon Pulse but that’s entirely up to you.

on covert cloak pelipper tera ghost isnt very necessary as fake out is the least of your worries. Two teras i find to work are grass and dark, although dark isnt amazing, just allowing you to resist gholdengo’s shadow ball and be immune to prankster. Grass is way better, granting a resist to electric while granting a powder immunity. You should also fix EVs.

tbh on rain you can get away with tera grass rillaboom, again fix the EVs here. Also Taunt Rillaboom just isnt good, so i recommend running U-turn which can potentially get in something like dondozo or tatsugiri safely.

Finally we have Incineroar, which is almost fine, though not having parting shot is a massive risk. Dropping flare blitz or possibly taunt here for parting shot can work nicely.

alpine relic
teal fiber
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Boots and alomomola are rarely used out of singles

fresh flicker
alpine relic
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yeah but if im not using regular arcanine i wouldnt be using arcanine

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ik it's not as good but it's what i wanna use

alpine relic
digital raven
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if you want to use Arcanine (especially if it's a hisuian arcanine) then something like Band could be good, or even safety goggles. Your team otherwise doesn't have an immunity to spore and there is no sleep clause in vgc so that's pretty important. Alomomola in most games will just sit around and do nothing, the only pressure it applies is with a scald burn. Multiscale isn't typically used on Dragonite because inner focus makes Dragonite immune to intimidate and intimidate is very common and very good. In a similar vein, pressure does nothing for Corv in doubles, (it won't pp stall anything) so almost any corv you'll see will use mirror armor to bounce intimidate or a parting shot

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I like amoongus so I'm biased, but I think it would fill the role Alomomola would much better

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pollen puff heals teammates, it's a regenerator pivot, it gives you a spore immunity, and it can provide redirection for Dragonite to setup

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I'd also say that Dragonite might not be the strongest pick this format, it was very good with Chien-Pao to lower enemy defenses but it wasn't the best without Chein-Paio as a partner

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Amoongus also gives the team a fire-water-grass core which is nice for defense

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also with how fast vgc games are Pelliper won't need damp rock

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anyways that's a team I thought up today, tested out, and had mixed results with

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I have helping hand on Tar so that Chomp and Excadrill can get better results against incineroar, Flare Blitz on incin and the tera fire on Tar for Rillaboom but I still don't like how this team goes against it

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Palafin used to have mystic water, but with this teams weakness into grass I'm thinking about something that could be a better mon into Rillaboom without sacrificing a huge amount to sun teams

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I've tried bright powder and band before scarf on Chomp, but idk how I feel about any of it. I like how Chomp can always have a hail mary through bad scenarios, but not being able to change moves sucks sometimes

alpine relic
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that's super helpful thx

digital raven
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happy to help!

alpine relic
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also have u been playing on pkmn showdown today bc i ran into that exact team earlier

digital raven
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yes lol

alpine relic
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lmao

woeful parrot
drifting onyxBOT
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austere wasp
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I would suggest indeedee to partner up with armarouge and some proc with some u turn mon / something that can pivot to indeedee in the turn

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A dragapult for example

woeful parrot
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Who do you suggest I replace with indeedee/dragapult then?

woeful parrot
austere wasp
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It would be the Gyarados and the Amoonguss slr

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Maybe dpult with twave/willo+ swipe + uturn + protect as support

woeful parrot
austere wasp
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I like it!

wild sinew
lost phoenix
# wild sinew https://pokepast.es/0932d357d8201707 Do your thing nerds

Talonflame prefers to be max attack, the hp isnt really surviving anything, you prefer damage
I prefer tera steel flash cannon on hydreigon, it actually hits tera fairies and primarina and also walls both ursaluna formes
I feel like with talonflame you would prefer to go offensive, i would personally probably go farigiraf with imprison tr instead of primarina, specs dengo to match the tempo, then smth like amoonguss or hisuian decidueye instead of maushold

woeful parrot
drifting onyxBOT
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wild sinew
# lost phoenix Talonflame prefers to be max attack, the hp isnt really surviving anything, you ...

Originally had Tera Steel but went for Tera Fire because I added Dengo + Taunt Maus.

My idea was that you could go the normal Tw stuff (Talon Ghold Hydra +1), and the balance mode with Prim Rilla stuff and NP Dengo as wincon. Feel like going Specs Dengo and Farigiraf kinda just makes the team a bit more one dimensional, and kills your Dondozo check so you have to use Csmog Shroom or Scope Lens Decidueye (arguably kill Tempo more). It probably works well but I feel like that's just a diff team comp idk

Might go more offensive with Talon, Flare Blitz without LO feels weak as shit tho.

lost phoenix
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You dont need to go flare blitz

wild sinew
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Do you just change the spread

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Or is there another move you go

lost phoenix
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If you were gonna keep this comp, id entirely drop talon

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You just go 252 attack

wild sinew
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Ah oki
Clicked showdown spread

lost phoenix
wild sinew
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Can you explain a bit why

lost phoenix
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Talon is used good part for its offensive value and can only get one tailwind off per game

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If you wanna have two modes in balance and offensey, whimsicott can help out both

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For balance it has encore and tools to shut down trick room and it can set priority tailwind multiple times per match

wild sinew
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Can you rlly bring it when its also dead super quickly

lost phoenix
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For offense it is still priority tailwind and also has fake tears to help out gholdengo and hydreigon

lost phoenix
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Unlike talon who just loses the priority tailwind if it gets faked out

wild sinew
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If you're going for a long game do you rlly need Tailwind to be prio every time

Whims feels like it has more anti synergy typing wise at least

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I'll try it

lost phoenix
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If talonflames tailwind isnt priority it usually cant set it up in general

austere wasp
woeful parrot
sand minnow
distant trellis
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if this is for singles, ie BSS then wrong place

austere wasp
placid robin
drifting onyxBOT
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jovial creek
placid robin
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Why whimsicott?

jovial creek
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it lets you use tailwind or trick room depending on the matchup

placid robin
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Ok

cinder glacier
violet valve
acoustic notch
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lycanroc now tera ghost

random wagon
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*things

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First, tera electric hecidueye should be tera fire, steel or fairy

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The EVs are a bit odd, what do they do?

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You also have a pretty poor mausape MU

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And your rain mu is scary

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Muddy Watee should be Yawn on gastro, forces archaludon to swap

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also helps with mausape

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Special attacking talon is also not great

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Brave bird and flare blitz hit way harder, so swap to a phys set

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If you want you can drop protect for wisp too

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Tera dragon electabuzz actualoy doesnt sound bad

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You definitely want taunt over protect

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And probably volt switch over tbolt

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Kingambit can be adamant and tera flying should be dark/fire

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Tera ground rilla is bad, tera fire here

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Also drop hhp or uturn for wood hammer

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And again you should fix your evs

random wagon
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I recommend running a sash set with rock slide, endeavor, accelerock and protect and tera ghost

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And drop ursa-bm for ttar

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Also serious nature rilla? That should be adamant with a better spread

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Also change tera water to tera fire or even dragon

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Make it rain should be tbolt and gholdengo needs to be modest

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Also not make ot rain

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Meant dgleam

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Also edit your milotic spread

lost kernel
drifting onyxBOT
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random wagon
lost kernel
random wagon
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well you need a restricted pokemon fo your team to be viable in reg g

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and reg h has banned paradox and legendary pokemon

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this feels like a reg f team though that format has passed

lost kernel
random wagon
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well how far did you make it with this team?

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if it is for reg g no offense but it isnt a good team

lost kernel
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(Hahaha get it band for band make it rain? Im so funi)

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Mabe reg C 💀

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Im a few months late ngl

leaden breach
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Hello new to vgc build this for ladder, and would like you opinion about my balanced rain team idea, I thought 2 rain setters might come in handy so added murkrow also for prankster, not sure about the tera on rillaboom but fire seemd not good on a rain team, also having a hard time against sand teams https://pokepast.es/e79c1b62592fa981

drifting onyxBOT
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vocal ferry
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Thoughts

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Also who should my last mon be

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Idrk what my teams tryna be

distant trellis
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well

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if this is for reg H

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lando, chien pao, and calyrex are all banned

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and also we only rate finished teams here

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you ask about unfinished teams in comp gen

vocal ferry
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Damn

pliant forge
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can I get some thoughts/feedback on this reg H team? i've been workshopping some different mons but for two days now I have been really enjoying this team and it does pretty well into some of the annoying rain/maus ape teams

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first time I've posted a team here, please be nice :)

random wagon
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Probably ghost

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The raichu also feels a bit random tbh

pliant forge
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shoot sorry some of the teras are wrong, ghost for ninetales incin, water for whims, not sure about raichu's tera i was thinking maybe just keep it electric

pliant forge
random wagon
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Yeah grass should work as well

pliant forge
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I get it though, electabuzz is probably more vaulable and pawmot almost does the same thing but lighting rod is really working for me

random wagon
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Raichu can just get doubled by arch and basc or pala

pliant forge
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You'd be surprised tbh, I find a lot of teams just leave the archaladon behind seeing raichu in the preview

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and if they do bring it you just need to play the weather game

pliant forge
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dozo scares me really bad and this is kinda a bandaid just to have it for the worst case scenario

random wagon
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You might want a set up pokemon that abuses veil

pliant forge
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I did notice calm mind was learnable by glaceon

random wagon
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crit hydreiyon here could be cool

pliant forge
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and I guess my set up mon is empoleon if my opponent brings incin?

random wagon
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because crit hydreigon can blast through dondozo

pliant forge
random wagon
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I'd say empoleon or raichu

pliant forge
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and are you married to just scope lens/draco hydregion? or could life orb work too?

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obviously having a dozo check helps but just a thought

random wagon
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probably scope leans focus energy

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*lens

pliant forge
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unless scope lens sets also have snarl?

random wagon
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Then you go draco+dark pulse

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and protect

pliant forge
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I was theory crafting heatwave on hydregion too, but the focus energy/scope lens set did pique my interest

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also I think unaware dozo doesnt register the draco spatk drops right?

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i get confused with obliivious and unaware but I believe that's correct

random wagon
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Unaware ignores opposing stat boosts

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Not stat drops

pliant forge
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ah ok I thought drops counted too

random wagon
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But crits go through drops

pliant forge
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right right

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also here's a fun calc I got someone with last night, food for thought if I cant haze the dozo

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After a fake tears so theri SPD is back to neutral: 252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Ice Glaceon Freeze-Dry vs. 172 HP / 244 SpD Dondozo: 272-324 (110.1 - 131.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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of course I didnt know the exact dozo set since they only hit me with wave crash but this is nearly max SPD

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I updated the Tera types too since it was bugging me, tera fairy for raichu seems to be the most popular so I slapped it on em

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vocal ferry
pliant forge
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singles?

misty tapir
unreal arch
vocal ferry
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Online battles probably

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Ion know how to get into tournaments

unreal arch
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Regulation g allows legendarys, H dosent

vocal ferry
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Idk

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Probably

unreal arch
# vocal ferry Someone help me improve my team https://pokepast.es/8b6e4c52e1c10e3b

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/vgc-24-regulation-g-sample-teams-thread.3747193/

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Resource - VGC '24 Regulation G Sample Teams Thread

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Welcome to VGC 2024 Regulation G Sample Teams Thread! The purpose is to highlight a collection of tried and tested teams with strong tournament results that represent the current state of the game, and is meant to help newer players get into the VGC format. The teams provided...

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Just use a sample team

vocal ferry
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But thats boring

unreal arch
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The Movesets are bad & Tyranitar doesn’t have an item

vocal ferry
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He does

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epic crashout on your behalf

pliant forge
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also the opponent in my last game tried to twave with grimmsnarl into empoleon but guess they didnt realize lighting rod protects allies LOL

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and then another archaladon snarled empoleon but then competitve activates so that's another advantage of the duo

vocal ferry
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Mint

misty tapir
unreal arch
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Sample team is just the best choice

vocal ferry
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Nopr

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Nope

unreal arch
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Ok

vocal ferry
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No fun in not making youre own team

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Imo

unreal arch
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True

pliant forge
vocal ferry
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Its fun to learn what strats work

pliant forge
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also love the senshi pfp

misty tapir
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I'm looking to do massive damage

unreal arch
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Mind if I tell everything that’s wrong

vocal ferry
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Yhhh

misty tapir
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And use Tailwind in some cases

pliant forge
vocal ferry
pliant forge
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specs and trick is a fun set

misty tapir
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No, I got this from a vgc tournament champion

pliant forge
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assuming you're talking about that big 400+ player toruney there was a fair amount of throat spray prim

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not sure about gholdengo, I cant remember all of the sets

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I think you're set on massive damage though outside of those two changes

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specs gholdengo is pretty epic

unreal arch
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I’d replace blissey, is not great in doubles & stealth rock is useless in vgc

vocal ferry
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Yep

misty tapir
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I know Maushold can cause Ape to OHKO

pliant forge
#

yup that's your ticket

autumn wolf
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whats a good talonflame set i havent looked alot at reg h

misty tapir
#

Though what are other cores from the team?

vocal ferry
tidal lark
unreal arch
vocal ferry
autumn wolf
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idk if im gonna use gyrados i just kinda put it in there for now

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also 6th is gonna be gholdengo i forgot to do that

tidal lark
#

Just my comment

misty tapir
autumn wolf
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oh my bad 😭

unreal arch
misty tapir
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Who are good pairs for Primarina?

vocal ferry
misty tapir
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Looks like Primarina's teammates are Rillaboom and Maushold

autumn wolf
hybrid summit
misty tapir
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Does it matter which form of Tandemaus I use?

fresh flicker
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cinder glacier
#

What the hell is an RMT

wild sinew
cinder glacier
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Oh course

pliant forge
#

-2 for archaladon rain spam

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summer wigeon
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Arc has two strategies: Pop. Bomb - Stamina - Body press

Drizzle - Electro shot

Dudunsparce:

Beat up - Rattled - Weakness policy

Ursaluna

Indeedee - Trick room - Tera normal - Blood moon/Hyper voice

pliant forge
#

Can you confirm the tera type for maus?

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I'd run ghost personally

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I made the same mistake with posting my team and forgot to edit the teras lol

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and maybe psyhic seed for indeedee, then sash for pelipper

tribal void
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it is kind of expiramental

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helping hand is just there

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haven't really needed to use it yet

quaint phoenix
clever imp
pliant forge
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Choice band and swift swim go brrrrr

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inner plume
#

I don't know who will see this bc I'm new here but here's a team im trying to cook up. Lmk what I can improve or if you want more details.

Regulation G btw

austere wasp
#

Feels like theres not much heavy hitters but how does it do when u play the team

#

For the mienshao personally i think close combat is better than hjk

inner plume
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The reason I do hjk is because it’s a confirmed OHKO against incin

jovial creek
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I think Adamant cc kills

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Also go 252/252 on sash

misty tapir
vale thorn
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reg H btw

golden rune
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quaint phoenix
#

but i donno abt the primarina tho

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#

posting my "Articunio at home" team again to see if there's any advice. I think I want to change some moves, like I already changed water pledge from hydropump on empoleon. Also considering dropping incin and maybe whimsicott since I want to build around glaceon/ninetales and compliment those two more. Maybe hydregion, h-arcanine, bm, murkrow? idk but any thoughts would help!

pliant forge
#

and I think I've seen a lot of tera grass for prim at least anytime I face one

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I did face tera poison the other day but I dont think that's really popular

pliant forge
quaint phoenix
#

Thx

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this works even better

pliant forge
#

yw :)

quaint phoenix
#

i did a lot of thinking

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i changed the raichu

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bc of role compression

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so i gave it a farigaraf

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this gives u a trickroom mode

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i chose rilla over whimsacot

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your team was pretty slow

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even w tailwind

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soo

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Rilla keeps the fire water grass synergy

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and it works w trickroom and even without it

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  • it brings grassy terrain to the table, which gives your budget articono (glaceon) some passive recovery
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i also made your ninetales faster than max speed gholdengo

quaint phoenix
quaint phoenix
pliant forge
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This is helpful, I’ve been considering farigaraf for a trick room mode since glaceon does well in trick room

pliant forge
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Nuzzle is also pretty busted and it’s a good form of speed control with paralysis

quaint phoenix
#

my favourite pkm rn to use is gastrodon

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bc it counters arrc rain

pliant forge
#

Rilla I do want to add even if losing prankster tailwind hurts

quaint phoenix
#

it also fits on trickroom

pliant forge
#

I just wish it hit harder

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I considered the slug but I dont think its earthpowers do enough sadly :(

#

and then opposing rillabooms one shot it

quaint phoenix
#

wait

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its on like 40% of my teams

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trust me its good

misty tapir
quaint phoenix
#

uff

quaint phoenix
# pliant forge I just wish it hit harder

Gastrodon-East @ Soft Sand
Ability: Storm Drain
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 196 Def / 60 SpA
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe

  • Yawn
  • Protect
  • Earth Power
  • Ice Beam
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torn geyser
#

what do you think?

past harbor
tidal lark
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https://pokepast.es/26cf3727b18dd12c i made a reg g team, i made it accecible so i could get the mons in sv, im thinking about making it part t room and adding normal ursaloona or bloodmoon

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pliant forge
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maybe it was a bad day yesterday but raichu lost me 2 games for not being able to clean up an end game, and I swear every matchup I brought empoleon I couldnt bait out intimidate leads

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maybe empoleon can still fit with a tweaked tera and moveset, but I'll give some other mons a shot

hybrid summit
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https://pokepast.es/c0ca4841b4d3e6b7 Hi guys, I've been trying a bunch of different teams and this TR team is performing the best so far. Do you guys have any recommendations for improving it? Not sure about salamence especially
EDIT: https://pokepast.es/5ccc444c64bb5f69 this is an alternate version I made switching out Salamence and Kingambit for Dragonite and incineroar, please rate whichever version you find has most potential

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floral mantle
golden rune
#

whats your problem @bento?

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@floral mantle

floral mantle
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Im new to competitive wise pokemon and i dont know how to spread my Evs

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Like, ok, ik how to build fast sweepers, but any other thing? Idk

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Like bulky supports or anything like that

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If you see my team, you will see that the Evs are trash/non existents

golden rune
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I'm still learning too, but I think usually what you want is to think about what moves you wanna survive

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you can put in your pokemon and then think about the meta and what you're most likely to get hit by

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and then try to figure out how many hits you wanna be able to take

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andother option is to use the smogon analysis

floral mantle
#

Ok

golden rune
#

lemme know what you come up with!

floral mantle
#

Hmm, im thinking what Evs should i put in the Maushold+annihilape duo

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Maybe focus in annihilape atk and speed or Hp, atk then speed?

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And for Maushold, just Speed and Hp?

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I think im focusing in the hp of the annihilape, since its gonna setup

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And for the maushold i think im just going with HP and Speed

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Maybe i use Politoed instead of the Pelipper?

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@golden rune

golden rune
#

i like pelliper cause it hits grass types well

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politoad doesn't really have many advantages rn

floral mantle
#

I think i got to an conclusion

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But im gonna need some testinf

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Testing

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What do you think?

golden rune
#

Looks like a good start, make note of what hits you take and if you could survive better

floral mantle
#

Yo, i just winned 2 "bad" matchups

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One that used Raichu (lightning rod)

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And another that was a archetype like my

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Can i send you the replay?

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Yooooo, i can live a swords shadow claw mymikyu with my annihilape

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I die to 3 hits (after the leftovers)

quaint phoenix
#

i was happy to help ;)

pliant forge
#

right back at ya

#

hope throat spray prim is serving you well

floral mantle
#

Bro

#

A Sunny day Murkrow + Fire tera Weather ball primarina just washed me

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Cuz i was thinking:
"Oka, lemme just tera grass my achaludon"
Then i see the sun

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Idk what i was thinking when i terrastalized

golden rune
#

Lol nice

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Sure send replay

pliant forge
#

I got rolled

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Yesterday was not good for my mental health

floral mantle
#

Lol

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dense nebula
#

just realised pikaltyks made them all adamant nature

deep gorge
floral mantle
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I think it would be better if you invested more Evs for a Bulky Incineroar than a Offensive

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Same with politoed, cuz its more a support pokemon

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keen escarp
#

You could maybe try Trick > Focus Blast on Goldengo, but that's p much it. Team looks rather well rounded for HO

#

What do you struggle with currently?

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native knoll
native knoll
keen escarp
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It's overall well rounded imo

karmic fox
#

https://pokepast.es/e166275c74ab8903 Typhlosion+tailwind centered team for regulation H. Choice specs eruption from typhlosion, especially with sun and tera, can ko a lot of mons(who would have guessed), so that's a point. I'm having trouble deciding the last mon, ursaluna seemed a solution for my problems, but i think i'm still struggling with dragon types like salamence. Is there any obvious change i might have missed? Some mon i could swap in? I'd be glad to hear some reccomendation because i feel like the team is good but still can be improved a lot.

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ornate cloak
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@distant trellis

distant trellis
#

this looks alright to me

ornate cloak
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Perchance

distant trellis
#

is there anything you struggle with in particular

ornate cloak
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Nrn

#

I just made this team

distant trellis
#

the archaludon set is the only thing that stands out to me as unorthodox

ornate cloak
#

Life orb is a tad bit unorthodox ik

distant trellis
#

yeah I'm personally not the biggest fan of it cause it cuts into ur bulk very fast

ornate cloak
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But av is already used up on Rillaboom

distant trellis
#

mhm, and rilla is good here

ornate cloak
#

I thought about Miracle Seed/Band Rillaboom but like, idk

distant trellis
#

I was thinking maybe amoongus over it but idt thats necessary

ornate cloak
#

Naw

#

Rillaboom is key

#

Dondozo needs healing cause I'm not using lefties

distant trellis
#

yeah

#

I mean pollen puff amoongus but thats not the most reliable thing ever

#

it depends what you want

ornate cloak
#

It can't heal Dondozo, remember?

#

Commander

distant trellis
#

oh yeah

#

lol forgot

ornate cloak
#

I need to rely on Grassy Surge

distant trellis
#

also rilla provides more offensive merit than amoongus

ornate cloak
#

Actually

#

Terrain Extender Rillaboom?!?!

distant trellis
#

haven't seen that before

ornate cloak
#

Imagine tho

distant trellis
#

I mean you could go for it but it would be a big sacrifice to special bulk

#

especially in a tier where psyspam is strong

ornate cloak
#

7 turns to recklessly spam Wave Crash in the rain

ornate cloak
distant trellis
#

you can go for it ig

ornate cloak
#

I might need to play around with EVs

#

Should Dondozo be faster?

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Cause I'm using intimidate + grassy surge support

#

So should I reduce the bulk and increase the speed a bit, you think that'll be decent?

distant trellis
#

sorry didn't see this

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I think leaning into dozo being difficult to remove is the right call

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so I think the evs are fine

#

opposing arch is already a problem so

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past harbor
#

But you are investing speed

#

That’s almost never good

astral osprey
#

Fair enough thank u

summer wigeon
past harbor
#

And choice specs gothitelle is just trash

tribal void
#

been expiramenting with stuff

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i find it hard to go against psyspam

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and hydreigon

past harbor
tribal void
#

any suggestions?

past harbor
tribal void
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i saw it being used once and had an idea

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i hate archaludon

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and using sun is iffy imo

#

so

past harbor
#

Yeah your team kind of gets owned by archaludon rain

tribal void
past harbor
#

Speaking of this one it still gets owned hard by archa

tribal void
#

Yeah

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Psyspam and arch body this team

summer wigeon
tribal void
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But I have no idea how I would fix the matchup

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floral mantle
#

Trying a sand team

floral mantle
floral mantle
#

Should i use EQ HighH Protect iron head Excadrill or replace the EQ or HighH for rock slide?

floral mantle
narrow dock
digital raven
#

I wanted something with electric stab, speed control and spread moves, saw that porygon-z had discharge, saw that adaptability worked with tera, and then noticed electroweb

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austere wasp
#

Looks nice

jovial creek
dense nebula
stray niche
deep gorge
#

Hey guys 👋🏻
I Need some Additions to this Core:
Weezing @ Air Balloon
Ability: Neutralizing Gas
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Clear Smog
  • Pain Split
  • Protect
  • Will-O-Wisp

Gholdengo @ White Herb
Ability: Good as Gold
Level: 50
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Make It Rain
  • Protect
  • Nasty Plot
  • Shadow Ball

Slaking (M) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Truant
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Play Rough
  • Drain Punch
  • Knock Off
  • Double-Edge
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lost phoenix
pseudo vessel
floral mantle
#

And if you do this

shadow mason
floral mantle
shadow mason
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Alrighty

#

Should I run the bulky spread?

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Or keep it at offensive

floral mantle
#

The things im saying is for another team bro

shadow mason
#

Oh my bad lol

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Sorry about that

floral mantle
#

Lol

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No problem

leaden breach
pseudo vessel
floral mantle
#

Basic sand team

#

Should i add something more?

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Or change smth?

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keen escarp
dense nebula
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quiet no. fighting yes

keen escarp
#

Clear Amulet is counter productive on Annihilape, since it prevents Defiant from activating

#

You are better of running Lefties or Goggles

#

Run Modest nature on Archaludon, you need the Speed

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Also Tera Grass > Fairy

dense nebula
#

basically my only arch counter

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keen escarp
#

Protect > Ice Punch on Annihilape

#

You can Beat Up Rage Fist Archaludon

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And your own beat up Archaludon works great against opposing Archa

dense nebula
#

no i cant

image.png
dense nebula
#

yeah you're right about the arch one

keen escarp
#

with 4x boost

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If you force their tera to fairy, your own archa with flash cannon handles it. Not to mention, the common Tera is Grass atm in this format

dense nebula
lost phoenix
#

Change the base power manually

tropic saffron
#

hey guys its been a long time since i played vgc, but i made this team for reg g and i want somebody to judge and help me improve the team, ill apreciate it ! https://pokepast.es/bfffee7580d21ded

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austere wasp
#

Not a bad start

#

Might suggest beat up user (whims or maus) over incin since u have ape and archa

haughty jasper
#

New regulation of september, need some advice, pls ping
Garchomp (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Rough Skin
Level: 50
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Dragon Claw
  • Earthquake
  • Protect
  • Iron Head

Murkrow @ Eviolite
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Foul Play
  • Haze
  • Taunt
  • Tailwind

Palafin-Hero @ Punching Glove
Ability: Zero to Hero
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

  • Drain Punch
  • Flip Turn
  • Ice Punch
  • Jet Punch

Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 HP / 116 Def / 24 SpA / 116 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Discharge
  • Hydro Pump
  • Protect
  • Will-O-Wisp

Armarouge @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Flash Fire
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 108 HP / 124 Def / 140 SpA / 132 SpD
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Armor Cannon
  • Calm Mind
  • Protect
  • Expanding Force

Gholdengo @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Good as Gold
Level: 50
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 132 HP / 252 SpA / 124 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Thunderbolt
  • Dazzling Gleam
  • Make It Rain
  • Shadow Ball
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IVs are perfect bro, everything 31 except some ATK, is right

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worn turtle
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This is trying to be hard trick room

scarlet bay
#

Hello! I've very recently gotten into playing on Showdown, and been having a blast with Random Battles. Decided to have a crack at making my own team, any suggestions?
https://pokepast.es/3779ae81bf650e89

sonic wind
sonic wind
scarlet bay
#

it hits the field, gets its aurora veil up and then spams blizzard until it goes down

haughty crag
#

I need help with basically everything

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Changed incin and farig to their correct abilitys

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and sneaslers to unburden

leaden breach
#

I think the berries on amoonguss and incin are a bit weird.

amoonguss mostly runs sitrus berry/rocky helmet

incin- safetygoggles/av

hot lance
past harbor
hot lance
past harbor
#

Like you only run it when you want min speed

#

….

#

Idk how did you get to that point…

hot lance
#

I guess I thought when I made it I wanted it to be minus with investment to give it a neutral speed overall idk how I thought that myself

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distant patio
#

Imo I think archaludon is fine on the team but he could do better if you gave him rillabooms assault vest and replaced protect for something like body press to benefit from the stamina ability

ornate cloak
#

Hm

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tribal void
#

also

#

not a lot of speed control

wanton abyss
tribal void
#

i dont like grassy seed just because it makes sneasler really intimidate weak

#

but i could see it working

#

coaching spam on dnite or rilla

wanton abyss
wanton abyss
#

Sneasler could also go SD grassy seed over coaching

#

with unburden you get a lot more room to invest in bulk

lost phoenix
wanton abyss
lost phoenix
#

that was the main idea of it anyways

wanton abyss
#

I see the vision, and I think pelipper hdeci can do it just as well

#

also fighting tera on deci is wack. Go stellar or steel imo

lost phoenix
#

ill go with stellar ive just been using the tera to guarantee ohko on incin

wanton abyss
#

Stellar most likely does the same

lost phoenix
#

what would u suggest over talon

wanton abyss
#

Ursa Bloodmoon is absolutely broken

#

Plus your life orb is free

#

you could also go for a steel type, for which kingambit and gholdengo are great options

lost phoenix
#

ghold sounds cool

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since primarina has been scary

#

life orb ghold seems doable

wanton abyss
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big prim fan. love it when a girlboss wins

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life orb with t bolt is fun, with plot is fun, specs trick is fun, but the real sauce is trick scarf with nasty plot

lost phoenix
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all seem doable ill test it out a bit

wanton abyss
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hope the rate was helpful

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please stay on the line for the survey at the end

lost phoenix
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lol yea ty

tribal void
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ok, ive found out that i absolutely hate sunroom

tribal void
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the only thing stopping a trick room from going off is either just killing whatever is setting TR up or gyarados' taunt

brazen flicker
woeful parrot
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If I have Primarina and Kommo-o on the same team who should I give throat spray to?

lost phoenix
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in the future for these kinda non-rate related questions go to the comp gen channels

dense nebula
tribal void
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if you do drop ape drop beat up on whim as well

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but maybe

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do you ever send in annihilape by itself or use it with whim?

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also did you just coincidentally have the same evs or did you yoink them from me lol. Im just wondering

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for gyara

dense nebula
tribal void
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do you find the matchup into archaludon hard or easy

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if its just fine without annihilape

dense nebula
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easy

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only issue im having are odd match ups

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like fake tears and qd volc

tribal void
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maybe a swift swim user would be good

dense nebula
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basculegion as a revenge killer maybe?

tribal void
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basculegion is a common choice and could definetly fix up volc matchups

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gyara is a bit weird here though on rain as its a third water type

dense nebula
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adaptability banded w/ tailwind or stick with swift swim

tribal void
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swift swim

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definetly

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it already hits hard enough with band

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some fake out pressure would be nice

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maybe go back to incin as a intimidator

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incin would also seal the deal on psyspam matchups

dense nebula
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Basculegion @ Choice Band
Ability: Swift Swim
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Last Respects
  • Waterfall
  • Zen Headbutt
  • Flip Turn

this fine? only thing outspeeding is probably barraskewda but its just stupidly fast as is

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Barraskewda @ Choice Band
Ability: Swift Swim
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Flip Turn
  • Liquidation
  • Close Combat
  • Crunch

could also try this with less speed since nothings going to be outspeeding it

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could just do min speed and put the rest in bulk

tribal void
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psychic fangs is a more consistient choice than zen headbutt

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and flip turn could also be used for momentum

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while hitting decently hard in rain

dense nebula
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alr

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think im gonna mess around with intim arcanine hisui

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maybe not tho

tribal void
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its a bit iffy in rain

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cause

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it would just be nuked

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its not even like incin which has a chance to live in rain sometimes

woeful parrot
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It was for my vgc team so it felt right

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copper pumice
copper pumice
random wagon
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a lot of suboptimal sets

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EVs

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and the team structure feels weird too

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i suggest taking a team from someone/somewhere else (example:labmaus) before you teambuild because as you said thid is your fifth team, which leads me to believe you are very new to VGC. Just make sure to use a sample team and learn the meta before building (trust me it wont take long before sets latch on)

copper pumice
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Btw its reg h

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austere wasp
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red card seems weird

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but overall epic team

ornate cloak
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And I needed scarf for Typhlosion

austere wasp
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go SPECS

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HIT HARD

ornate cloak
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I tried using specs but it didn't work out properly

lost phoenix
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Id probably go for power herb meteor beam on armarouge to hit incin and smth else on tatsu

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Either damage item or survival item

ornate cloak
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What item do I go on tatsu tho

lost phoenix
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Well hum

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Scarf and sash are both occupied

ornate cloak
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Yeah

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Assault Vest Tatsu with muddy water, drop a Draco, icy wind, and hydro pump/Tera blast?

lost phoenix
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Could work if u went bulkier

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I just dont think red card would work

ornate cloak
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Red card is very situational, if that's the right way to say it

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What Tera type do I use on Armarouge tho, if I go power herb Meteor Beam

lost phoenix
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U can keep grass to play against amoong

ornate cloak
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Hm

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Ig Meteor Beam is really good into Pelipper

lost phoenix
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Or u can go stellar

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Both work

ornate cloak
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Alr

lost phoenix
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Peli + incin

ornate cloak
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This team is kinda weak to Pelipper tho ngl

lost phoenix
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U cant beat these with the whimsi arma mode

ornate cloak
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Especially the Indeedee Armarouge core

lost phoenix
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And sometimes u wanna bring it

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For the other mons say they have a hisui decid

ornate cloak
ornate cloak
lost phoenix
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Its quite good right now yeah

ornate cloak
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Eh

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It's HA is scrappy, right?

lost phoenix
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Yes

ornate cloak
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Should I go specs Typhlosion?

lost phoenix
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Scarf is good i think

ornate cloak
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Alr

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Ty for the help

ornate cloak
lost phoenix
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So efficient evs should be like

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4 -> 12 -> 20

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Etc

ornate cloak
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Hm

lost phoenix
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And maxed out at 252

ornate cloak
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What EV spread should I use tho

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It's defenses are terrible

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And I'm not using Incineroar for intimidate and Will-O-Wisp

lost phoenix
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I dont know i cant calc up smth rn

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Ill see if i can think of smth later

ornate cloak
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What are the main hits it needs to take

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lost phoenix
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252+ SpA Life Orb Primarina Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tatsugiri: 304-359 (89.4 - 105.5%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

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This is ev-able for

ornate cloak
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@lost phoenix I came up with 248/248/4/4/4

lost phoenix
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Sure if it works

ornate cloak
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It takes Archaludon's Draco Meteor

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But not Moonblast

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I'll have to give up defense EVs ig

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252+ SpA Primarina Moonblast vs. 248 HP / 104 SpD Tatsugiri: 164-194 (94.2 - 111.4%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

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Yeah I just don't think it's gonna live a Moonblast

lost phoenix
ornate cloak
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I'm dumb

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248/248/4/8

lost phoenix
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8 is wasting evs

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As i said jump points are 4 -> 12 etc

ornate cloak
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Mb

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44% chance to OHKO

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With 94 SpD and 248 HP, a Primarina Moonblast is 2HKO

lost phoenix
ornate cloak
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Well

lost phoenix
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To look if its efficient subtract by 4 and see if its divisible by 8

ornate cloak
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Ohk

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4 SpA is also inefficient, correct?

lost phoenix
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No

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0 is divisible by 8

ornate cloak
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Alr

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100 SpD

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Tatsugiri @ Assault Vest
Level: 50
Bold Nature
Tera Type: Grass
Ability: Commander
EVs: 244 HP / 156 Def / 4 SpA / 100 SpD / 4 Spe

  • Draco Meteor
  • Hydro Pump
  • Muddy Water
  • Icy Wind

This can take Wood Hammer/Drop a Draco/Moonblast

distant patio
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Made this team to try and have answers to archaludon in the rain

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Any suggestions to improve it

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plush bluff
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I know this is for team help

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But how do I counter pledge teams

past harbor
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The users are starters

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And the most viable starters don’t have space to run it

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past harbor
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like there are no reasons to

random wagon
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Clamulet is decent for parting shot

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but covert cloak is better in many ways

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Really the only reasons i see for clamulet on csr are if you have cloak on a partner torn or you really wanna block parting shot and dont care about the cloak blocking fake out after tera

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# still shoal https://pokepast.es/e585d2abf3596e82 regulation g

but anyways here are the changes i have

You can actually keep clam on csr, but id change expanding force for draining kiss and fix them EVs (pikalytics, labmaus and munchstats help)

urshifu-r can have jolly and tera ghost/stellar

incin should be tera ghost and evs should again be fixed (up to you but wisp can be used over blitz)

rilla also needs a EV fix and should be tera fire or normal if you really want

whims should be cloak torn

Flutter should be swapped for the different and better raging bolt

Otherwise everything is fine

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jovial creek
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I'd recommend whims>incin

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Your team would benefit from tailwind support

cinder glacier
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I already have Pelliper

cosmic patrol
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and is it good in general

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My team for the format

fresh flicker
# fresh flicker https://pokepast.es/17f72f9832385608

There has been many changes. Prims speed has been changed to outspeed Max speed Bloodmoon Ursaluna, with Incin and rilla to form a FSW core. Kommo-o night seem out of place, but it's a crucial member to assist against problematic matchups I've found. Kinggambit and Archaludon most notably. With it and Ghouldengo pairing with the core very nicely. Fari does help in TR matchups. But I find myself not bringing it most times

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fresh flicker
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There are 3 things I've been considering. But there may be other suggestions. 1: Replacing Fari for Bloodmoon or electibuzz.
2: Replacing it with a secondary grass or water in situations Prima or Rilla won't serve too well.
Or 3: keeping Fari but changing the set

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There may be more options

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But I want to try to go what's the one that fits the team best.

strong zealot
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i have been testing this gimmick and overall its really nice rn but what changes i could make ?

fresh flicker
strong zealot
fresh flicker
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I don't think that's possible

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The crit rate is actually 50% I think

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Unless I'm wrong here

strong zealot
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and dragon cheer is +2 on dragon types so it gets to +3

fresh flicker
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So every boost is a +25%

strong zealot
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+3 is 100% for some reason

fresh flicker
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I see

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It might work

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But there's many issues that the gimmick can't cover

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Which makes it inconsistent

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  1. Trick room is deadly here
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Not psyspam

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Trick room specifically

strong zealot
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yeah i have been able to stall out w dondozo tatsugiri tho but its still really inconsistent

fresh flicker
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  1. Kinggambit proves a good check to it and incin only makes it deadlier
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Fake out won't be enough to contain it

strong zealot
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true kingambit is a heavy problem but i did change dragapult into hydreigon and have been testing and w heatwave it should be able to contain it

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tr is still the aquiles of this team tho

fresh flicker
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You need a check to TR.

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One that not just cancels it but uses it itself

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1 mode isn't enough

strong zealot
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i originally did have farigiraf but dropped it

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it was for countering amoongus w talon flame

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also annihilape