#Monotype Rates

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brazen notch
lusty anvil
# brazen notch https://pokepast.es/548423986f22c1f8 hey can someone help me out with this team?

yo dope team i love the implement of snorlax however i think snorlax on this team would be would be fit more on a defensive stallish team. you can honestly start off with a defensive core of staraptor, Chansey, and Porygon2. Very hard to break + synergizes well.

  • Staraptor over braviary as providing hazard removal for the team via Defog. 248hp max def 8 SpD, impish nature with brave bird u turn, defog , and roost. Intimidate and Rocky helmet for the item
  • Porygon 2 should be max hp max def 4 spd bold nature. with Discharge Ice beam Foul Play/Toxic and Recover. Great Wall, hard to break and can spread toxic pretty reliably or stop setup sweepers like Scizor via foul play.
  • Chansey is pretty straight forward honestly, nothing really change through out the gens. standard defensive evs, with seis toss, soft boiled, stealth rock, and toxic.
  • M lopunny is fine. Drain punch or high jump kick is honestly up to presonal preferences. Drain punch is the safe option but less powerful while hjk amazing stab but risk the recoil on miss/protect turn.
  • Heliolisk can run glare if you are running Assault vest. so i would take it off for coverage in hp ice. Ground is annoying as hell this gen. and take off low kick for grass knot. max spA max speed timid nature. and the item can be expert belt.
  • Lastly snorlax is just too slow to set up + the evs doesnt maximize its bulk that you would get from curse. Instead we can go with diggersby in that spot. Huge Power + Band just makes the big bunny a strong wall breaker. with Frustration Eq Quick attack and Fire punch with Adamant nature, max attack max speed.
    The team should look like this https://pokepast.es/fdde1c1d8b20d867 Overall dope team gl in your match and like always, Happy Gaming! gmcat
brazen notch
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alr thanks

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nice teamm

lone crest
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gen 7 Steel monotype team i just finished

flint pebble
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Please rate I’m a beginner so don’t be too harsh please

exotic geodeBOT
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New [Gen 9] Monotype RMT @fathom maple, @midnight tiger, @pulsar inlet, @pulsar harbor, @quasi rock, @turbid garnet, @rugged shore, @limber basin, @balmy stream, @lyric sandal, @stable zinc, @tepid warren, @lusty anvil. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

quasi rock
# flint pebble https://pokepast.es/aafc41e2eb8c1112

Galvantula is better served with Sticky Web, as he's a support guy that lets Electric's mid speed guys be more scarier. The set for Galv would be

Ability: Compound Eyes  
Tera Type: Bug  
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
- Thunder  
- Thunder Wave 
- Energy Ball  
- Sticky Web  

With sash, you can guarantee a twave or webs going up

If using Nasty Plot, I think Thundurus-I is better due to T's worse speedtier, allowing you to get the jump on Ogerpon alone makes it really worth it. The set would be like this reow

Ability: Prankster  
Tera Type: Electric  
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Nasty Plot  
- Thunderbolt  
- Grass Knot / Sludge Wave  
- Sludge Wave / Psychic```

Otherwise, a "best of both worlds" would be Zapdos, since under webs Specs Zappy hits really reaally hard. You can find its choice specs set in the smogdex.

I'd suggest using Raging Bolt over Sandy Shocks or Magnezone though, his resistances, priority on an otherwise slow team is really helpful, more helpful than more hazards at least. Know that by dropping zone you're sort of forced to deal with FlutterMane offensively tho.

also minor edit to hands
```Iron Hands @ Shuca Berry  
Ability: Quark Drive  
Tera Type: Fighting  
EVs: 116 Def / 216 SpD / 176 Spe  
Adamant Nature  
- Swords Dance  
- Drain Punch  
- Thunder Punch  
- Ice Punch```
this now outspeeds skarm, letting you win 1v1 even if its ID

I hope this helps meow
balmy stream
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however there a few things that make it easy to get swept

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firstly

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Magnezone over magneton

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Magnezone @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

  • Volt Switch
  • Thunderbolt
  • Flash Cannon
  • Hidden Power Ice
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should run this set

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so it can pivot out of a BAD matchup (for example, a Ground type mon is out)

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Hidden power Ice helps combat the Ground weakness

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you can also run hidden power Grass too if you’d like

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Secondly, as much as i hate saying it

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lucario

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is

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bad

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use Coballion

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it’s much bulkier and can last longer than what lucario can

rapid otter
lusty anvil
rapid otter
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Fair enough

lusty anvil
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you done great so good job!

lusty anvil
# lone crest https://pokepast.es/4db35d36677f79fd

your steel team is dope, however i feel its lacking the immunity core which is really strong in the gens. Lacking heatran and one of the steel birds would just make the team weak to a plethora of match ups. m scizor Bisharp and Lucario are all trying to do the same job so we can take off both bisharp and lucario and let m scizor be the go to set up sweeper. which will now free up 2 slots which we can add heatran and either celesteela or skarmory. Ferro over empoleon as well, Ground is rough, notably lando.
Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 72 Def / 184 SpD
Careful Nature

  • Power Whip
  • Leech Seed
  • Protect
  • Stealth Rock
    Surviving a CC from terakion and a Focus blast from Lando is huge.
    Honestly echoeing off of Rex i would just go scarf zone with those moves above.
    https://pokepast.es/9a068d6ea96886c6 Heres a team i feel that can work with zone instead of ton. Great balance team overall and i think it would benefit more on the long run. **Celesteela **evs helps against m lopunny, lando and zapdos.
    just added in air slash and flame for the fighting matchup + good coverage. you can run toxic over flamethrower if u want as well. Heatranevs allow it to ohko zard y with stone edge and outspeeding m venu. rest is just to maximize its bulk. Scizor spread is just outspeeding adamant azu and maximizing its bulk/ Damage output. However going off of your scizor be weary of superpower since its lowering your atk in the process. instead you can opt for roost for longevity, or even knock off.
    Rest is pretty straightforward, Cool team i love the concept and i hope this helps and like always happy gaming! gmcat
rapid otter
stable zinc
lusty anvil
rapid otter
lusty anvil
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i see lmao nah i felt that

rapid otter
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Also cruel's on there cause I hate dealing with hazards and is the only decent hazard removal for mono water

lusty anvil
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honestly you can possibly make it physical defensive. unboosted ogerpon w horn leech is a chance to 3hko. scarf flowertrick is a 3hko.

lusty anvil
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im ngl honestly ik rest talk curse is like the go to on dozo but i feel like just adding an extra attack to help in matches where ur not just walled by alot in the process can help the dozo. like Avalanche + Body press then curse rest should be fine imo

halcyon parcel
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thats a really interesting water team ngl

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not sure ive seen something like it lol

flint pebble
exotic geodeBOT
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New [Gen 9] Monotype RMT @fathom maple, @midnight tiger, @pulsar inlet, @pulsar harbor, @quasi rock, @turbid garnet, @rugged shore, @limber basin, @balmy stream, @lyric sandal, @stable zinc, @tepid warren, @lusty anvil. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

tepid warren
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your team looks decent enough, I would recommend switching the berry on pecharunt for heither heavy duty boots or black sludge. I also would add a galarian weezing so you have a more reliable form of hazard control

flint pebble
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Rate pls

stable zinc
# flint pebble https://pokepast.es/d9ee6dba041c8c7a

put a bit more speed to outrun skarmory, its more common than corviknight these days (skarm is at 176 speed). Galvantula's only use on electric is webs, if you aren't using webs, then i wouldn't use it. Your team would appreciate something like Regieleki which is able to outspeed even scarfers up to iron valiant. Also any specific reason why the sandy shocks has 48 hp evs?

flint pebble
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Thx so much

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And what should I swap regi for

lusty anvil
lusty anvil
lusty anvil
# flint pebble https://pokepast.es/d9ee6dba041c8c7a

Also neko gave you some edits on this team yesterday From swapping out thundy t for thundy i due to its speed tier out speeding the ogerpons with nasty plot thunder bolt grass knot/sludge wave and sludge wave/psychic. Also on the paste you send it doesn't show u are running webs so i just went base off of that. May i see the updated one?

low tide
lusty anvil
# low tide https://pokepast.es/09239c1bdbc07a4f any areas I can improve on? genuinely curio...

i think honestly for the start of the team i like the concept, i think a few changes should benefit you in the long run. If anything, we can start off with ursaluna-b.

  • We can honestly take off the AV on ursa and make it into a Bulky Calm Mind set
    Ursaluna-Bloodmoon (M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Mind's Eye
    Tera Type: Ground
    EVs: 216 HP / 224 Def / 68 Spe
    Bold Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
  • Calm Mind
  • Blood Moon
  • Earth Power
  • Moonlight
    Allows the bear to survive hits from band pao crash, Band Zama CC from full. Speed allows for Ursa to outspeed uninvested hisuian goodra.
  • We can honestly make Terapagos an offensive rapid spinner since the team rn is weak to hazards.
    Terapagos @ Heavy-Duty Boots
    Ability: Tera Shift
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
  • Calm Mind
  • Tera Starstorm
  • Rapid Spin
  • Flamethrower
    honestly the moves can change base on what you struggle with, tera has a amazing moveset, the typical coverage can be tbolt and ice beam, but +1 tera starstorm hits like a truck.
  • Honestly Porygonz can be swap to blissey. Great Special wall, provides stealth rock, and can spread status via thunder wave.
  • lastly sash grafaiai not really good rn imo, you can opt in for porygon2 for a decent wall with boltbeam coverage, or if you want a sash lead you can opt in for smeargle. Ditto is an option as well if you are struggling with set up sweepers. but overall i feel the team is contemplating if it wants to go for a balance route or a more offensive one. But i feel like in this meta + with the mons given for normal it wants to go for a balance/defensive style. Overall love the concept of the team, hopes this helps and like always happy gaming gmcat
low tide
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ok thank you for the assistance, the help was greatly appreciated

lusty anvil
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utilizes offensive spin tera. the wise glasses on the bear help v wave deal with chien pao.

fathom cape
exotic geodeBOT
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roxie2311 was removed from the list of [Gen 9] Monotype raters.

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fathom cape
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Ty ;w;

balmy stream
stable zinc
balmy stream
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this team is more Offensive

rapid otter
exotic geodeBOT
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New [Gen 9] Monotype RMT @fathom maple, @pulsar inlet, @pulsar harbor, @quasi rock, @turbid garnet, @rugged shore, @limber basin, @balmy stream, @lyric sandal, @stable zinc, @tepid warren, @lusty anvil, @fathom cape. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

tepid warren
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its okay, however, ursaluna blood moon is a lot better than regular ursaluna

lusty anvil
# rapid otter https://pokepast.es/7790388f333df2ec thoughts?

Honestly for a sticky web team, it looks dope. Few things i would change is putting heavy duty boots over leftovers on terapagos to keep tera shell intact when there's hazards on the field. And to make ursaluna, max attack max speed, since this is a sticky web team. We want to abuse as much teammates we can with sticky web up

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But for ursa wise its like so hard to pass up on bloodmoon

rapid otter
lusty anvil
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You can however make hisuian zoro physical with choice band

tepid warren
rapid otter
lusty anvil
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A combo of physical hisuian zoro, braviary, and ditto should be cool

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Since u have rapid spin on terapagos, you can honestly run 3+roost on braviary if you decde to use it or if anything, fighting match up seems bad rn. You can also take off ursa for band or scarf staraptor as well

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But honestly i feel having braviary over the ursa slot and band zoro can help with the more. Zoro is not a bad physical attacker, plus it can help avoid having an all special attacking team. So like a comp can be like band zoro, bloodmoon, terapagos, smeargle, blissey, and ditto

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Or like band zoro, braviary, blissey, ditto, bloodmoon, and smeargle

rapid otter
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What moves on physical zoroark?

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Besides trick

lusty anvil
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Or shadow sneak to threaten flutter mane, boulder ceruledge, etc.

rapid otter
lusty anvil
# rapid otter https://pokepast.es/d055212640e50c72 updated version

Sorry i fell asleep but it looks good, maybe scarf on star? for the slight chance webs gets removed. and maybe Protect over h wish on blissey? scout for choice items + i feel like blissey is too important to be sacking with h wish. Or even Shadow Ball to punish pult and Mane

gleaming lichen
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polter and knock..?

lusty anvil
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It might seem counteracted but its nice when you can hit opposing hisuian zoro and normal mons, can opt in brick break as well. But 9/10 you are clicking polt with that set. U-turn can be an option as well for pivoting. But like yeah, sole purpose of knock on this set is to hit opposing zoros

lusty anvil
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Also its still nice to have so you can knock off potential boots on mons which would allow them to take hazard chip eventually, since this team revolves around hazard stack smeargle.

pliant ivy
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i hate destiny bond

rapid otter
pliant ivy
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bro i didnt know it had it

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gengar

meager copper
exotic geodeBOT
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New [Gen 9] Monotype RMT @fathom maple, @pulsar inlet, @pulsar harbor, @quasi rock, @turbid garnet, @rugged shore, @limber basin, @balmy stream, @lyric sandal, @stable zinc, @tepid warren, @lusty anvil, @fathom cape. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

pulsar harbor
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Protect is helpful only on a bunch of mons and you don't really have any here

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Arguably battle bond gren could run that for First Impression but Lokix in Mono isn't really common and it would be a fishy choice anyways, washtom prefers discharge over tbolt for more utility by potentially paraing, on spdef sets i also prefer twave and replace protect with pain split

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boots pretty useless considering u have levitate so lefties are more than fine

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greninja needs protean if specs/scarf and then you can replace water shuriken with hpump/surf or coverage like extrasensory, protect you also want extra coverage like grass knot or extrasensory, u-turn can work too

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I would replace primarina with toxapex and then waterpon can run sd over last protect, koff can be replace by play rough / low kick but overall it can work

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looking back at it washtom prolly wants defog + pain split over wow+tect as you have 0 boots

lusty anvil
# meager copper https://pokepast.es/c3724b15663c932f

Looking at your team, i love the concept. However im assuming this is just sv mono and not ndm (going by the paste format). One of the main problems i see on the team is its extremely hazard weak, meowscarda weak and no reliable swap to t bolt spam. With some changes we can make this better. The urshifu set is fine mada already went over greninja about opting protean, your two moves can be extrasenory is great coverage denting fighting and poison types like Iron hands and pex. Sludge wave as well to hurt pesky the ogerpon formes. Honestly i would go for a core of pex and any of the water ground, preferably swampert(over Rotom and primarina). Pex checks meowscarda while also providing hazards with t spikes, while swampert provides elec immunity while also setting hazards and removing items with knock off. Swampert also provides pivoting with flip turn. Poison jab, T spikes, haze, recover on pex Also heavy duty boots for the item since no hazard removal on the team. Swampert can run flip turn, earthquake, knock off, and stealth rock. Swords dance on ogerpon. Also consider Rock tomb as well over Knock off to threaten Articuno. Lastly you can run flip turn over knock on h samurott as well if you want more pivoting as well. With that the 6 should be Urshifu R, Greninja, H samurott, toxapex, swampert, and Ogerpon-W. Once again i like the concept of the team and i hope this helps ya. And like always happy gaming! gmcat
Other Teammate options:

  • Empoleon nice special wall which stops the team getting 6-0 by freeze dry from articuno.
  • tentacruel, might not be pex but it does provide team hazard removal + a physical defense set with black sludge checks scarf meowscarda.
balmy stream
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@lusty anvil i fixed all of the things you told me to fix in my analysis if you want to check that out

meager copper
exotic geodeBOT
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New [Gen 9] Monotype RMT @fathom maple, @pulsar inlet, @pulsar harbor, @quasi rock, @turbid garnet, @rugged shore, @limber basin, @balmy stream, @lyric sandal, @stable zinc, @tepid warren, @lusty anvil, @fathom cape. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

lusty anvil
# meager copper https://pokepast.es/b60d2676d0b2d0b1

Hey, overall i like the concept, i feel with a few changes we can make it better! Overall theres no point of running pelipper if you are not running barraskewda to full utilize rain. I would take off pelipper and add in toxapex in that slot, great wall for the team which also helps check meowscarda which is a pain for water teams. A physical defensive set with p jab, t spikes, recover and haze would be nice or u can run a mix wall set, which can help more tanking special hits. Rotom wash is not really the best rn, and the team desperately needs a elec immune, gastrodon or swampert is a nice pick here over Rotom. Not only providing that elec immunity but also providing entry hazards so the with stealth rock so it can turn into a hazard stacking water team which is strong. Altho, manaphy is a cool pick i would honestly take off manaphy for primarina. Calm Mind primarina is a fierce set up mon in the metagame rn, and with dragon being extremely strong. Having primarina ease the match up is most appreciated. A physical defensive set with calm mind draining kiss, psychic noise, torrent. Also change protect on ogerpon Swords Dance. If knock off not really doing anything for you, you can run either play rough for the dragon matchup, or Low Kick to threten steel mons like arch and hisuian goodra. For h samurott, you can run flip turn over knock off if you want pivoting, which can help bring in your walls like pex or one of the water/ground in safer. I hope this else once again love the concept and like always happy gaminggmcat

agile flax
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And honestly, might scrap this lmao

exotic geodeBOT
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New [Gen 9] Monotype RMT @fathom maple, @pulsar inlet, @pulsar harbor, @quasi rock, @turbid garnet, @rugged shore, @limber basin, @balmy stream, @lyric sandal, @stable zinc, @tepid warren, @lusty anvil, @fathom cape. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

agile flax
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I play a lot of nd normal mono but SV has so many missing moves and cornerstones of normal that I was a little lost

balmy stream
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i’m just asking because i’m not sure what you’re trying to hit

lusty anvil
# agile flax https://pokepast.es/9999731e0fe61a57 wanted to use pokemon I don't usually

im not going to lie, this looks so dope hah i love it. You can honestly run some speed on bloodmoon, like 68 speed to out speed hisuian goodra, so like max spA , 68 speed and the rest into hp. or if you want to be an absolute tank with the bear, you can run 216 hp, 224 def and 69 speed, bold nature. and i like the giraffe but honestly you can run blissey for special attack soaking. you can change h zoro to focus blast over hyper voice to delete archaludon, you can run psychic or d pulse as well if you want to check fighting mons as well. trick can be run too over pulse to choice lock walls like hoodra.

limber basin
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Grass knot zoroark is common enough, i take issue with hyper voice + dark pulee

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Losing important moves in flamethrower and focus blast

lusty anvil
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^

balmy stream
limber basin
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Shadow ball
Flamethrower
Focus blast
Trick / knot is the usuals

balmy stream
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like Krookodile?

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Tusk?

lusty anvil
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krook is not used in mono

limber basin
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Its just to help snipe threats on water like pert. The water matchup is tough as hell for normal

balmy stream
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but

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that’s actually true

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Hisuian Samurott is a big problem

limber basin
lusty anvil
balmy stream
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^

lusty anvil
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other than that the team looks fun to use, hope this helps and like always happy gaming gmcat

balmy stream
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you might wanna switch the set on Arboliva though

limber basin
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If ur just trying to play normal at its best

balmy stream
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since it works better in Grassy Terrain

limber basin
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The general 6s are like, bloodmoon, zoroark, ditto, braviary, and blissey as locked in. Last slot is usually a toss up between terapagos or pory2, but u could mess wirh arboliva or indeedee there asw. Terrain seeds with bloodmoon always does decently

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Could also mess with terapagos as the rocker over blissey if that interests u,

balmy stream
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^ you could also use Guts Ursaluna if you’re feeling ✨Physical✨

limber basin
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Bloodmoon is the best mon on normal so idk about that

balmy stream
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i know that

limber basin
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If u want a physical breaker do like

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Idk staraptor.

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Not worth but thats an option

balmy stream
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i don’t think Staraptor is a good idea

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especially since we have braviary

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i’m not saying Ursaluna base is better

limber basin
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Implying it over braviary.

balmy stream
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but

balmy stream
agile flax
lusty anvil
lusty anvil
limber basin
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One note is i do think normal might need vacuum wave

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Chien pao is a bitch i think

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But maybe def boost is enough

balmy stream
agile flax
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It's tragic

lusty anvil
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yeahh

agile flax
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But this is honestly really similar to what I usually run

lusty anvil
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but im glad you like it!

agile flax
lusty anvil
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go for it like always tweak to ur liking

agile flax
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Farigaraf specifically to support ursaluna

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Eating grass moves and provides special bulk to the team with wish support

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Its like, a really really weird set, but it's mainly utility anyway

lusty anvil
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nah i like it, it has a good purpose on this team.

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hf with it!

balmy stream
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as it has SEVERAL uses

agile flax
lusty anvil
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np glad i can help 😄

slender robin
meager copper
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4 fairy 3 ice

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not much speed control

slender robin
meager copper
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Or like an Alolan Ninetales

slender robin
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@lusty anvil @quasi rock Can I get critique on my team?

meager copper
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I think giving moon tailwind would be a good start

quasi rock
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uhh

slender robin
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what do i run over dd?

meager copper
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Also I think mega salamence is better than altaria and that can also set tailwind

quasi rock
meager copper
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Good idea that also helps with ice types

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And if ur running kyurem I've found a loaded dice Icicle spear scale shot set works well

slender robin
quasi rock
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not much dragons do that

meager copper
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You could possibly run swords dance scale shot garchomp instead of Zyg

stable zinc
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They are building the team around zygarde 10, garchomp is generally the better mon yes but zygarde 10 isn't bad enough that you'll have a bad team with it

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Since dragon is still dragon

lusty anvil
rapid otter
exotic geodeBOT
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New [Gen 9] Monotype RMT @fathom maple, @pulsar inlet, @pulsar harbor, @quasi rock, @rugged shore, @limber basin, @balmy stream, @lyric sandal, @stable zinc, @tepid warren, @lusty anvil, @fathom cape. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

fathom cape
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sup

fathom cape
rapid otter
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Was building around arch, goodra and gouging fire

fathom cape
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dnite is kinda a flop

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i think

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she kinda doesnt rly do much

rapid otter
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Was thinking hydreigon but just another fighting weakness

fathom cape
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pult+lati

rapid otter
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Because my team's weak to ground

fathom cape
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specs/hdb kyu

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  • levi lati?
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u can always

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just drop a steel

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kinda the trade u make by running 2 steels in mono its not a bad play but

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yk

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just the reality

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dnite doesnt do anything to the mons thats clicking eq this gen exca is on steel/ground, they should just

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swap

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it kinda just

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exists

rapid otter
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Fair

fathom cape
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kyu would provide u some

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like hardcore pressure

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this spread is also good on steel/drag the speed evs are for jolly gambit/azu (jolly azu doesnt exist and if u have wisp pult+kyu the benchmark is kinda eh) but

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althought u have a gouging fire u need something to like

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make gouging fire actually work against balloon tran

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so some fire coverage somewhere else to complement

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the lategame plan of hdb gouging

lusty anvil
# rapid otter https://pokepast.es/c82db6dd36c22943 thoughts?

I think all honestly as well its like having gouging plus both steel dragons make you extremely ground weak, but like what roxie said thats kind off the trade off at that point. And the gouging ev spread was there to help on the special defensive side since most teams drop hoodra. its honestly that reason so, if you are running both arch and hoodra, i would honestly make Gouging Fire more offensive. 3a + DD or even Morning sun so you are also not getting walled by air balloon heatran in the process. same with the Pult evs, the wisp hex set had the mix attack with both wisp and t wave with d darts to allow pult be as threatening as possible. but also honestly i would add kyurem to help with the ground matchup more + it also just destroys the water matchup due to freeze-dry (if they are not running empoleon either.) Other than that, Dope team!

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I think when like building for drag rn especially with Gouging on the team and not wanting to be ground weak. I would start with the Pult + Lati core then from Gouging and one of the steel dragons: Physical def Gouging with Hoodra or SpD Gouging with Archaludon, then Kyurem and then last is filler between Roaring Moon, Wake, hydrei, and Bolt.

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specs or hdb up to you, specs is as great, for immediate wall breaking. Heavy duty boots is nice as well since Dragon lacks hazard removal but yeah i would go for specs

rapid otter
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Big debate on my filler slot

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Trying to cover different weaknesses and struggling to choose. Maybe bolt

lusty anvil
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thats just the thing of mono, you cant cover all the weaknesses but try and cover majority, bolt is not bad as well but thenrun the same problem when you was running the double steel drag: stacking ground weaknesss

rapid otter
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I could run roaring moon for a balance of special and physical coverage

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Debating if I pick up walking wake too

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Better type matchup if I go walking wake tbh

lusty anvil
upper gull
lusty anvil
# upper gull https://pokepast.es/cce4c6f296199a60 nat dex mono ground

I Helped him via #1060037469472555028 and NDM Room: Just made him change Clod evs to... Clodsire @ Black Sludge
Ability: Water Absorb
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 SpD
Careful Nature

  • Earthquake
  • Poison Jab
  • Toxic Spikes
  • Recover
    Avoids 2hko from scarf meowscarada flower trick and scarf ice beam greninja.
balmy stream
old plaza
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Plus no poltergeist

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Smh

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Mega sableye better maybe ?

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And that dusknoir set is Uuuhhhhhhhhhh

balmy stream
balmy stream
old plaza
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And dusk has like no HP investment

balmy stream
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True

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I’m gonna tweak something’s this is more like the sketch of the team

old plaza
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No poltergeist on banette is bad

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And I think mega sableye is a great bulky ghost type to have

balmy stream
old plaza
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Probably

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Just look at the viability rankings would you

lusty anvil
# balmy stream https://pokepast.es/c204e4d36ea1990a It’s a mono ghost type team what do you gu...

Yooo, I like how you have dusknoir however i feel like the lack of key components that a ghost team needs will make this wayy better. Especially in NDM since Ghost is down bad right now. With that being said heres what we can do with then team.
M sableye over M bannete, From hazard blocking to being a great wall + dark neutrality makes M sab a must spot on Ghost teams. A mix wall set like this:
Sableye @ Sablenite
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Def / 156 SpD
Careful Nature

  • Knock Off
  • Recover
  • Protect
  • Will-O-Wisp
    Metal Burst can be run over protect or dazzling gleam can be run also to threaten Roaring Moon and friends.
    Honestly a core of m sab, gholdengo, sinistcha, and go from there would be nice
old plaza
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Yep

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^

lusty anvil
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mimikyu is a solid option as well for dark and dragon, either of blacephalon or ceruledge, and like fillers can go a long way

balmy stream
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Ok

balmy stream
lusty anvil
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no its allowed

balmy stream
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Ok so dm me the sets

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For the core

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Ok @lusty anvil

lusty anvil
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gotchu

balmy stream
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Ty dude

upper gull
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feel free to rate

balmy stream
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so until like boomp shows up to crash this party i’ll go over them for now

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The normal team is perfectly fine

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Focus Blast over Grass Knot on Hisuian Zoroark because we WANT to hit both Rock pokemon and steel pokemon

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Base ursaluna is alright

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though i suggest using ursaluna Bloodmoon

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for a more threatening presence against Ghost

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other than that

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the Normal team is pretty good

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even though youre not running scarf Ditto

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for Ground

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if you’re running choice band

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Excadrill does not need Rapid Spin

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Poison Jab would be better since it hits grass pokemon like Meowscarada and Spore users like Breloom

upper gull
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alr

balmy stream
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this is optional choice

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but

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you could run leftovers on Hippowdon

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Eject button is really good

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although leftovers keeps it healthy

upper gull
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honestly

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i mostly just use him for exca anyways

balmy stream
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that’s fine

upper gull
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scarf helps break the speed tie

upper gull
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yea

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im pretty sure all dittos run scarf

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yeah?

balmy stream
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yes

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some run choice specs

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but it’s almost always scarf

upper gull
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fair

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you sure my grass team doesnt need any work

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it may be one of my worser ones

balmy stream
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it’s alright

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however

upper gull
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also just gotta ask what do you think is my overall best team here

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gotta know whats best for these tournament things

balmy stream
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Ground imo is your best

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ice is your worst

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since grass is somewhat better

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since you actually put decent coverage

upper gull
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i always thought that went to flying

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ive won alot more battles with it then ground

balmy stream
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flying is also very good

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you just have to be mindful of ice

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other than that yeah

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Flying and Ground are your best here

upper gull
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whenever i see an ice mon all i think i can really do is pray zapdos or celesteela can handle it

balmy stream
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Zapdos cant hit Froslass but steela can

upper gull
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is sandy shocks viable for ground

balmy stream
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yes since it can hit water pokemon

upper gull
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you think i should get one

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?

lusty anvil
lusty anvil
balmy stream
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im sorry if it came off that way to you

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but i was never being negative

gleaming lichen
gleaming lichen
balmy stream
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the normal team could also use some moveset changes

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hi

quasi rock
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shock flutter sucks nowadays

lusty anvil
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You honestly can run Power Gem over psyshock

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and spectrier gets more value by not being specs

lusty anvil
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bully the fire match up

fathom cape
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plot paints easier gameplay in conjunction with spikes

viscid garnet
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I usually tend to run psyshock if I can because of special walls

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dd/specs/disable pult are better options - u kinda want to have some sort of setup

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what spa walsl

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You also have like a sub wisp spectrier set on this team (annoys sucker punch gambit.)

viscid garnet
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idk how to play that though

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it's too big brain

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so sash spectrier?

lusty anvil
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you honestly have Swords Dance, Ceruledge to deal with special walls also the gameplan against that is just to chip the walls with hazards throughout the match

fathom cape
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sub mon is must

viscid garnet
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idk how to play sub though

fathom cape
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sub wisp pult

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wdym

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u dont know how to play sub

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do u want me to teach out

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you

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get on ps

viscid garnet
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I don't get any of it…

quasi rock
fathom cape
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Usage Tips On When to Use Substitute:

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  • Substitute notable provides longevity because Pokemon like Toxapex will try to click Toxic or Gastrodon can run Clear Smog to prevent setup attacks. To avoid such strategies being easily countered you can use Substitute to absorb status ailments.
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  • How can this be useful: Substitute can allow said Pokemon to pick up KOes of the mon it subs up on and do damage to the incoming Pokemon coming in. Spectrier's case you have Grim Neigh to tbh this is good synergy as your getting Spa+ boosts for every KO which makes it harder to beat and easier for u to win games
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  • Sucker Punch is a common threat to Ghost types and having a Sub up can give u longevity (and a standing chance against priority sucker which can help vs threats like Kingambit)
quasi rock
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Sub-Disable takes advantage of Choice-locked mons because if they hit your sub and you disable them, they cant hurt Dragapult, letting you sub more and get more setup

viscid garnet
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ok

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and why will-o-wisp?

fathom cape
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  • Spectrier also gets Substitute + Disable and practically disabling a priority move can just preent something (literally)
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well u dont

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need wisp

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this is jsut my sample core

viscid garnet
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oh ok

fathom cape
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but i liked wisp for swaps

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like muk-a that may come in

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i rahter wisp incoming dark types

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vs just

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disable them since i have disable pult as my late game

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it just sets up a late game winpath for pult with disable as a suprise/lure

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but

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phantom>disable

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is good too

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u hit fairys with infil

viscid garnet
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ty. also, is there any reason for the hp ev's?

fathom cape
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u just rly need +spe

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pretty customizeable for benchmarks but nothing too major

viscid garnet
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so is 4/252/252+ fine?

fathom cape
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ya

viscid garnet
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do I sash both of them?

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something like this then?

lusty anvil
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Put leftovers on spectrier.

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same for dragapult if your running substitue as well on it. Passive recover + substitute is always nice.

  • Also the team hates hazards notably ceruledge since you won't be able to utilize its sash, if you are not having success with like spectrier i would take it off for Brambleghast. If you dont care about hazard as well you can always opt in for sinistcha as well in that slot.
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i would say add mimikyu, but Froslass already does a good enough job for this team so i’ll leave it be

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also yeah

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you don’t want hazards

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this is also a personal suggestion

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but

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you could run scarf Flutter Mane

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breaks the speed tie 🌚

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plus let’s you move first against opposing flutter mane

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meaning you 2HKO them first

quasi rock
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you dont need sash since your own sub destroys the use of sash

viscid garnet
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since they are quite slow

quasi rock
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Leftovers or boots are better on the horse

quasi rock
viscid garnet
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I'm just very bad at using slow mons in general, unfortunately

quasi rock
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it just bullies ground without Haze Clod/Water

lusty anvil
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you dont just get 6-0 by most things notably ground been strong recently.

balmy stream
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boots seems a bit lackluster

viscid garnet
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alright I will use leftovers for both

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since ig it could make all the dif if I use sub

balmy stream
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yes

quasi rock
balmy stream
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and you have draining kiss

balmy stream
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i mean that’s if the opponent is using hazards as well

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overall it depends on the matchup

viscid garnet
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btw what damaging move do I run on froslass

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either triple axle

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shadow ball

quasi rock
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Avalanche is a fringe option too so you get a negative prio dbond

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making sure you kill the other mon

balmy stream
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^

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which is helpful in taking team threats out

quasi rock
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proc Sash->Dbond->Slower mon acts first and kills lass if you used Avalanche, both go down

balmy stream
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^

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either way it’s a death on both ends

balmy stream
# viscid garnet ?

Froslass will ALWAYS be taking the pokemon who’s against her down with her

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due to the priority

viscid garnet
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usually it's spikes >> sash >> dbond >> both dead

quasi rock
# viscid garnet ?

Avalanche has -1 priority, so it acts last even though froslass is faster

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Destiny bond persists until froslass acts again

balmy stream
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^

viscid garnet
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oh, so if the opposing mon uses a status move?

balmy stream
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yes

quasi rock
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no, if they use a status you just die

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the other mon doesnt die with you

balmy stream
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^ basically

quasi rock
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for instance, Hoopa-U is a slower mon

viscid garnet
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then why would the dbond not proc on the first turn?

balmy stream
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so you have to be SURE that they attack Froslass, otherwise she dies on her own

viscid garnet
balmy stream
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it’s very dicey

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but it pays off VERY well

viscid garnet
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dbond doesn't kill froslass

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like if they protect

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nothing happens

balmy stream
viscid garnet
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?

balmy stream
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it’s not affected

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so if someone breaks your sash first (eg.Meowscarada using uturn to Hoopa-U) and you dbond on turn 1.

The expectation is that Froslass acts first and removes the dbond effect, ensuring Hoopa-U lives, but with Avalanche, Hoopa-U acts first and you both die

balmy stream
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^

balmy stream
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you have to make sure your opponent hits you first after sash or you’re VERY fucked

viscid garnet
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but I feel like I'd rather run a damage move than account for this

quasi rock
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yea, in that case Ice Beam/Triple Axel works better

viscid garnet
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ok ty

balmy stream
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triple axel might be better

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since they’ll expect a special move froslass

viscid garnet
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yea

balmy stream
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surprising them with a physical is always a good idea

viscid garnet
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though I mostly never get to use the attack move

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since I just spam spikes most of the time

balmy stream
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but as neko had said, either of those two moves would work fine

viscid garnet
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right

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also, energy ball and power gem works well for flutter right?

balmy stream
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energy ball yes

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it’s viable in some scenarios

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earth power isn’t that great

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but it’s optional

viscid garnet
balmy stream
viscid garnet
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because my mane is specs

balmy stream
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it doesn’t gain anything with power gem

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since there aren’t any fire type threats

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well there is Skeledirge

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but

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that’s not a big issue

viscid garnet
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skeledirge weak to sball

balmy stream
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i know

lusty anvil
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Gouging Fire, Ogerpon Hearthflame are big threats

viscid garnet
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and you can't tera in monotype

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what moves do I run then?

balmy stream
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Since gouging fire IS a rising issue in monotype

viscid garnet
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...

balmy stream
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then use ancient power

lusty anvil
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is why you run Power gem rn. Plus in the fire matchup you basically is winning since flutter mane gets the speed boost under sun.

balmy stream
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^

lusty anvil
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you do not need ancient power and mane does not learn e power

viscid garnet
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so like this?

balmy stream
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imo that’s fine

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but i’ll let boomp take over

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since he has a better input on that set

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i’m not fully confident in saying that it’s good

lusty anvil
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honestly the last move on Mane from T Bolt and E Ball is honestly up to you on what matchup you want win more. Common move is bolt but e ball has its uses.

viscid garnet
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ok, tysm!

rapid otter
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quasi rock
# rapid otter https://pokepast.es/770fb45386f9dfba any changes I could make? Originally had la...

If you're using rain flying, I think you should probably go more offensive with Kilowattrel and friends.

Kilo would replace Thundurus-T because Kilo is much faster (being faster than gren helps lots) and has hurricanes

I sould probably swap out AV Tornadus for a scarf user tho, likely enamorus but can use other scarves if you want, giving you some form of speed control against Dragapult and other scarfers

Leftovers is better than helm on corv since healing is premium nowadays with gutted roost pp

Stealth Rock > Spikes on Glisc because rocks would be a bit more impactful since you hit everyone. If gliscor isnt 250 speed yet, I would suggest you to set it to 250 actual speed for Raging Bolt

Articuno rubs meow the wrong way, you might want to consider uturn over sub or haze for more kilo turns

rapid otter
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Probably not HP since poison heal

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Just took some SpD EVs and invested that so my speed's 250

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balmy stream
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that isn’t will o miss

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since you’re running leftovers and taunt

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yes heatran doesn’t like being set up on, but it doesn’t like being stalled out

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actually nvm

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keep Will o miss

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also i’m confused as to why you have dazzling gleam on Gholdengo and not it’s other Ghost- STAB, Focus Blast, or recover

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i get that you want to hit Fighting

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but Dazzling Gleam isn’t always a good option

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Psyshock is a better answer

balmy stream
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rugged shore
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sd ss chomp prob works

fathom cape
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^

rapid otter
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Garchomp @ Loaded Dice
Ability: Rough Skin
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Swords Dance
  • Earthquake
  • Scale Shot
  • Stone Edge
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Just this set?

lusty anvil
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but thats fine

balmy stream
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is this Psychic team any good

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took some time to make it

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but i’m not sure if it’d be able to cover every weakness

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i put aura sphere on Latias just in case i run into Mono Dark

rapid otter
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I'll just run fire fang so I don't gamble on stone miss

lusty anvil
# dark sorrel https://pokepast.es/906fc7644bc98a81 going for steel and stuff, trying to go for...

you would want corviknight or skarmory over jirachi. Having Ground immunity is huge for the team.

  • Power Gem over Will-o-Wisp on heatran and consider air balloon for a soft ground immunity. really helps in the heatran mirror as well. 3a + taunt is nice as well to break opposing heatran balloon.
  • Draco Meteor over Flash cannon on Archaludon. Great against Gouging Fire.
  • Keep the gambit evs max attack but change it the evs to
    Kingambit @ Black Glasses
    Ability: Supreme Overlord
    EVs: 92 HP / 252 Atk / 164 Spe
    Adamant Nature
  • Swords Dance
  • Kowtow Cleave
  • Sucker Punch
  • Iron Head
    this allows gambit to outspeed skarmory.
    Other than that it looks good!
rapid otter
lusty anvil
# balmy stream https://pokepast.es/1f248e121943bce1

Honestly you gotta put the mindset of building teams, especially for mono: You can't cover everything. And thats ok, to start off, this team does not need that much Choice Scarfers. Mainly, the only nice one for the team is iron boulder. Boulder should have Close Combat over Sword to maximize our dmg output. Megahorn over Zen headbutt to just obliterate ogerpon-W. I think the lack of hatterene + AV Hoopa-U + Slowbro will ease so much problems. Slowbro is a great physical wall which also help this team vs Ground spam. Its item can be a variety of things from Colbur berry (haha dark) Eject Button for pivoting but after it can respectfully check Ceruledge. or even no item. Hatterene is a nice addition although not mandatory, being able to bounce back hazards which is appreciate due to Psychic teams not having hazard removal (other than hisui braviary but meh.) Av Hoopa-U is nice to help against Pult, Gholdengo, etc. Armarouge is very eh rn, it does really serve a purpose for psychic teams, Lastly Latios should be over Latias with Choice Specs for immidiate wall breaking. https://pokepast.es/3d09a171e375805b 6 could be like that. Gameplan against gambit is to make sure we keep psy terrain up and preserve boulder. hope this helps and like always happy gaming.
Changeable teammates can be espathra and indeedee if not finding no success with them.

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you just pray honestly. boulders main job is to clean up weaken teams but if you have a reason for sacred sword, go for it

rapid otter
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Thats honestly fine.

rapid otter
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And I got a recommendation for raging bolt over chomp

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(this was before adding chomp to the team)

rapid otter
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gm

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hi what u need help with

rapid otter
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Was wondering if I needed to make any changes

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looks pretty good to me, maybe you dont need thunder wave and will o wisp on sableye

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could switch twave for encore perhaps

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up to you though

fathom cape
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dont think of teambuilding like that imo

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esp in mono

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u have a gren u should be fine

rapid otter
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lusty anvil
tepid warren
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You have kingambit

lusty anvil
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can run night shade over knock off on sableye to 1v1 ID press zama better

rapid otter
balmy stream
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felt hot as fuck

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might delete later

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also i need like advice if it’s good enough for me to use or not

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it helped me win two Monotype battles so far

lusty anvil
# balmy stream https://pokepast.es/62941cde82051c38 (Mono fairy team i constructed)

honestly just swapping the choice items around with enamorus and flutter mane. honestly just using the standard scarf enamorus set should be fine in this team comp while adding power gem over m fire to deal snowball the fire matchup. taking out mimikyu for klefki not only for screens support but allows you not to be 6-0ed by Sneasler. Close combat over Drain punch and Thunderbolt over t punch so your not walled by corviknight or skarmory. can run Air balloon on val as well since the team doesnt really have no ground switch ins. Lastly you can run Giga drain over Shadow ball on hatterene to take out swampert and friends.

acoustic light
low tide
lusty anvil
# low tide https://pokepast.es/da8b139b843247e8 anything I can change about this dark type ...

you can take off hydreigon for specs greninja, allows your team to have immediate wallbreaking. Plus you already have Stealth Rock on your Ting-Lu. and I would just take out Lokix for Sableye. Having a Fighting immunity is huge while being able to deal with ID Zamazenta for the team as well. If you want as well you can make your Kingambit speed a lil bit more to outspeed Skarmory but thats up to you, other than the changes i suggested, the team looks dope!

flint pebble
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Any tips for a ground team

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# flint pebble https://pokepast.es/664b2226f6c95ae3

Some changes here will do the team alright.

  • Change clodsire to water absorb, Ground needs a water immunity. Also run poison jab or ogerpons will beat you 1v1. An ev spread of 252 hp 160def 96spdef careful nature will be better.
  • drop swampert for iron Treads and ursaluna for mamoswine
small sphinx
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how do i do the ping thingy

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@stable zinc

stable zinc
# small sphinx https://pokepast.es/407ddbee5a3d1c1e hey, im pretty new to team building, so id ...

poison somewhat needs to lean into the defensive core little bit here. Glimmora isn't really necessary, the combination of weezing + toxapex will be able to handle a dragon dance gouging fire. Toxic on weezing over will o wisp will achieve this goal. Also go jolly scarf sneasler, never adamant unless you're using unburden sets. For the rocks you want, you can swap out salazzle for unaware clodsire

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dreamy raptor
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fathom cape
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heyyy

fathom cape
dreamy raptor
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Yes

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sylveon and gardevoir arent great, you would have more success using something like flutter mane instead

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Hatterene @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 252 HP / 204 Def / 52 Spe
Bold Nature

  • Calm Mind
  • Psyshock
  • Draining Kiss
  • Mystical Fire

hatterene is better as a calm mind setup attacker, it does well with Klefki and screens support

Klefki @ Light Clay
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature

  • Reflect
  • Light Screen
  • Spikes
  • Foul Play
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this should be a step in the right direction

dreamy raptor
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I don't know what I'm doing, so I thank you so much for the help

tepid warren
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np man

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weezing isnt great on fairy either but its manageable, let you need any more help let us know

dreamy raptor
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Yes sir

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So no protect

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And should mamo be band or swords dance

dark jungle
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Mamo doesn't get SD

stable zinc
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fathom cape
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proto is unironically good vs fire, u speed tier psychic fangs chienpao or creep ur scarf

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and it has a range of options u can run to like cover stuff depending on ur comp

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this is a standard comp and id say like

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enam/azu slot is my most comfort of a flex, prim is ur best friend for being able to chew an attack from threats like lando-i and gholdengo especially when u run klefki this mon is already awkward vs plot weezing so like people think random mons like tinkaton/weezing-g may be better than like just an offensive teammate but a lot of times ur kinda adding passiveness on a playstyle u want to take advantage of screens so essentially ur denying value by not running better pokemon

fathom cape
# balmy stream https://pokepast.es/62941cde82051c38 (Mono fairy team i constructed)

i kinda rate mimikyu is comparison to past mono metas like usum/ss and here are these threads for reference in comparison to current day viability - what im trying to say that mimikyu heavily benefitted off psychic being meta so klefki sawap is good. when u run hatterene i think u would like to run coverage options to take advantage of something attempting to come in on u and either stall screens turns and/or dismantle ur setup opportunities

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tardy mural
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Any mono electric team tips/changes

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Removing pinurchin also lets you use Sandy Shocks, which has good stabs and entry hazards like pinchy (and a speedtier, since elec's speedtiers are wonky)

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Zapdos and Rotom-W would like some speed, Iron Hands is better off with SD imo so that you can take advantage of how strong Elec/Fight/Ice coverage in one mon is. Also make Iron hands 178 speed (actual) to outspeed Skarmory

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I have bad thoughts on eleki, but he works sometimes. If you can afford to drop a move [Explosion], use Supercell slam instead to OHKO Flutter Mane (very annoying mon for Elec)

If you dont like Eleki, you can use pawmot instead since revival broken and has ice punch and outspeeds lando at the same time.

tardy mural
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Thanks, i will put supercell on eleki but i wanted it for removal so i think it it stays on the Team

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Sd hands looks better 2

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Ty

upper gull
muted socket
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Anyone have some rock recommendations for just gen9

fathom cape
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ogerpon formes are really great

muted socket
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Yo. Couple friends are having a little comp and I wanted to use a type I don’t normally use. I would use ogerpon but we have to find shinys to use.

fathom cape
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Torkoal is a pure fire type and thats alr a disavranged for the nature of a typing thats weak to SR and just being spammed by Rock/Ground/Water/Dragon moves so forcing a sleep trade with Yawn could inflict a sleep and give u value with Spin or a reason to swap comfortable

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unsure if i like scarf gunk cinder tho , u probably beat fairy pretty fine by the nature of the typing , ig scarf hjk can revenge kill chomp but althoguh u have a torkoal, volcanion is still a great teammate to consider but mega gyarados is in the tier asw but ig what im saying is ceruledge is probably changeable between

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Volcanion / Volcarona / current Ceru, i feel like ceru is like beginner/noob bait nowadays and u should be adjusted to its presence naturally in the builder, sash ceru (and already having a mega zard x + scarf cinder + no hbd tini + lack of hdb overall only adds more pressure onto Torkoal but the reality is that Torkoal kinda only comes in like 1-2 turns to do what it needs to do then that guy is dead

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Mega Zard Y + Defog Volcanion is an alternative core u could test

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CC Cinderace is also still viable and Scarf HP Ice Blace so u can hit +1 scale chomp, landos

gloomy tusk
dark jungle
upper gull
fathom cape
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gm

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yo

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screeeensss

upper gull
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maybe

fathom cape
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ur throwing by not using the broken item light clay tho

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i love screens fire

upper gull
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i forgot about clay

fathom cape
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bin the ceru for power trip incin and thats a roxie team

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trust

upper gull
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ill try

upper gull
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easy switch in for ghost types against victini

fathom cape
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blace mu sucks u dont get sball spammed

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Ability: Intimidate  
EVs: 252 HP / 32 Atk / 164 SpD / 60 Spe  
Careful Nature  
- Bulk Up  
- Taunt  
- Power Trip  
- Flame Charge / Drain Punch / Substitute```
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this is a spread off one of my more recent teams taunt is mainly just good to stop the one that truly dismantles cheese (elements that try to phaze/haze setup through haze users like pex or ww users like ting lu)

upper gull
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hard to choose between dpunch and flame charge

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on one hand

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i need the fighting coverage

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just in case

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on the other fcharge is good stab and speed

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stab that i might not need tho

fathom cape
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kinda depends on ur comp , if u lack fight cov somewhere

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well fight coverage is good for like what hydrei ttar

upper gull
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true

fathom cape
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rn we are running tini/ceru so i think we are pretty dark weak, if this volcarona isnt bug z in the situation of being vs mega ttar in dark mu it kinda just dies

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which is fine but its the reality, tini can do stuff but its shakey and not like a AW because ur a psychic type

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so incin should be dpunch here

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yes

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u setup on sableye and drain the rest of the game

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and taunt toxic mandibuzz

upper gull
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oh yeah that sounds good

lofty geyser
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Also yea Azu is better than primarinya here

lofty geyser
quasi rock
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Belly drum

lofty geyser
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okay nice i love belly drum azu

lofty geyser
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or do i just ball with specs

quasi rock
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Literally unrk'able

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(Doesnt mean its unwallable tho)

lofty geyser
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OH YOU'RE RIGHT

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PLUS IT BLOCKS RAPID SPIN

quasi rock
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Its flutter mane's fault

lofty geyser
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i feel like the gif where everything he writes is fire

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thank you catto you have watered my crops

fathom cape
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Is pelipper not usable? That seems like the primary appeal as there are tailwind users in Thundurus / Tornadus and Landorus-t is one of the main Mons that can control the field with intimidate + RS/tomb in double metagames

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Kilowattrel (optional) lando-t + thundurus-t is a something you want to have glue on this archetype probably because this looks like throwing bb on random things and trying to make it work without any team affilied winpath

lusty anvil
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this is for rates not drafting

chilly pewter
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Grafaiai needs replaced or a better moveset. Does anyone have any suggestions?

chilly pewter
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mono bug

stone owl
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Araq > Scoli imo

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@quasi rock how do u feel about the slither here

quasi rock
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But Slither isnt really that great Imo, I'd try out sub Buzzwole or facade cross frist

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Slither sort of probably thrives on a team with actually hard hitters tho, like CB Sciz + Vika or something

stone owl
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SV Mono has been using a Will-O set right?

chilly pewter
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there is a method to the madness

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Scizor is the overall ace of the team and should be able to sweep with technician-swords dance-stab bullet punch.

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I run Butterfree for coverage over dragon types with quiver dance-draining kiss for much needed coverage.

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Slither Wing for fighting and fire coverage. I chose him over Heracross or Volcarona because frankly I just love him.

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Focus sash-Scollipede for at least one layer of toxic spikes if I'm outsped. If I'm able to outbulk, I run aqua tail for fire, rock and ground coverage.

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Forretress for hazard removal and explosion as a last ditch effort.

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Focus sash-Galvantula for sticky web and hopefully thunder wave.

old plaza
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Butterfree is bad

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You don’t have volcarona either

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Why

chilly pewter
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is there any move that can be substituted with a rock type attack?

quasi rock
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But uh

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What is the team built around?

chilly pewter
# quasi rock What is the team built around?

Grafaiai as a prankster user of toxic, parting shot and encore.
Porygon 2 as a bulky eviolite user with access to thunder wave.
Linoone as a fast physical sweeper with belly drum and extreme speed.
Persian is more just a coverage mon and is by far the weakest link.
Ursaluna as a physically strong coverage mon.
Pidgeot as my ace with strong no-guard moves.

chilly pewter
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taunt* not encore

chilly pewter
tepid warren
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I know it’s a little late but don’t use Persian and linoone, you’d be better off replacing one of them with a blissey or a bewear

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The other one could be a hisuian zoroark so you have a fighting immunity

small sphinx
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i'd like the team to keep using sneasler and salazzle, but i'd love help on changing the sets for ALL the pokemon and changing the pokemon. thanks!

stable zinc
small sphinx
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i dont really think my sets are great, any chnages for that?

stable zinc
small sphinx
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tox over gengar?

stable zinc
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Ye your team will need the water resist

small sphinx
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what set?

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also what set for the clodsire?

stable zinc
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Eq low kick recover rocks max hp max spdef

small sphinx
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sorry, im really new to temabuiling

small sphinx
hot mirage
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Can someone help me make a ice team

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I got alolan nine tails and baxcalibur rn

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Aurora veil on nine tails with light clay and a loaded dice icicle spear set for bax

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No legendaries

lusty anvil
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this channel is for rating completed teams not helping create one. if you want help making a team i would suggest going to the Monotype discord or the Monotype Room on PS! site

dark jungle
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!nolegends

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lusty anvil
# balmy stream Can someone help rate my team? https://pokepast.es/49910fd2c90aa47c Format is in...

Ice is honestly a shitty type rn but i like the idea of ur 6. However some items and mon changes can make this some what better. This team especially since its a slush rush cetitan team wants to maximize as much turns as it can under snow. You more likely want to swap our light clay for icy rock on ninetales and to be funny with it, hypnosis over dark pulse. Mamo can easily be choice band since this team lacks immediate power with knock off over t blaze. Lack of kyurem makes me sad. This mon is strong af for the type and i would swap it in and take out lapras for it. Choice Specs is a good item for it but if you are not really running hazard removal you can consider boots as well. Froslass should be your lead with shadow ball, spikes, t wave (this helps out the team since its slow as shit outside of slush rush cetitan) destiny bond and spikes. This is important as you now can break sashes on ceruledge and breloom which is huge. Crabominable is a flop, it does nothing in the tier besides being dead weight. If anything, if you want some sort of defensive backbone consider avalugg (great wall + removes hazards) or cloyster (your team dont just get 6-0ed by scizor.) Lastly cetitan is fine i would personally go ice shard over spinner because priority is always nice and +6 ice shard just goes brrr. Hope this helps and like always happy gaming. Overall ice is just in a bad spot rn.

queen ledge
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is this a good sun team

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Hey

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queen ledge
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sup

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I’m here

fathom cape
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What exactly are you building around?

queen ledge
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torkoal

fathom cape
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I don’t co-sign on a lot of these things but if you give me an idea of your approach to this

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Oh

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Ok so you should always have gouging fire

queen ledge
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okay, what should I replace it with

fathom cape
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And what does ralonflame spread do?

queen ledge
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Gives enough speed to out speed max speed ogrepon, and gives enough HP to allow roost to heal to full after a brave bird

fathom cape
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Hmm

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Okay so which oferpon forms are you scared of

queen ledge
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Wellspring, and Hearthflame

fathom cape
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Do you think you’re winning a game against Wellspring?

queen ledge
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I’ve won games against it

fathom cape
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Ogerpon WS is mainly on water teams and waters compositions that are rainless are like more beneficial for fire teams ofc

queen ledge
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And also priority brave bird allows me to flush powerful frail attackers

fathom cape
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But idk it just feels like talonflame is never switching into ogerpon unless sun is up im assuming And on paper yes bb priority kills it but is that actually happening in practice to

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Tho*

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It just feels really one dimensional and obvious and why would players just sack there ogerpon to talonflame for free

queen ledge
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true

fathom cape
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With the sentiment of fire teams being good against rainless water teams you by nature you can get +1 spe protosynthesis and I’d recommend using a different torkoal set

queen ledge
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That’s all?

fathom cape
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Yawn / will o wisp are amazing utility and I kinda hate this mon but at least with fire I like to just use will o wisp on certain pokemon

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Earth power skeledirge is also good you have to worry about other gouging fires , I think Ninetales is a lot more meta with healing wish because the meta is so heavily centralized around dragon

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And having a Pokémon that just fully recovers a playstyle of just ogerpon/gouging spam it’s kinda cute

queen ledge
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True, I’ve played tons against dragon and ghost teams

fathom cape
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And that actually makes sense to hwish you’re only grass type if you’re trying to beat water?

queen ledge
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True true

fathom cape
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Gouging fire Proto does really cure against those two types

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I would recommend using dd gouging tho especially if you go no healing wish and keep torkoal they have some weird cb gouging set also that only works with ninetales but i think

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Just dd blitz is kinda insaneeeeee like lowkey

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Volcarona is just like volcarona and I think if you want to make changes to your team tour slots in Torkoal / Skele / Volcarona are flex

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It’s just a matter of picking what mus you want to have edges / fortune in or just turn control but if you make these changes you should be good, good luck

queen ledge
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Thanks

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Also cinderace is how a lot of people deal with ogerpon

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And I get the talon defog but like you can just flip the hazards and check what u need to check

queen ledge
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that’s actually genius, why’d I not think of that

fathom cape
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And essentially if you have a toekoal you’re flipping rocks on you’re side so that’s why people used ninetales

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It’s like on field people are pressure to rocking and it just getting court change and if you think about it from that perspective

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You can just take the hazard trades in you’re favor and like torkoal for example you can’t spin on gholdengo / random ghost

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It’s just guaranteed

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Gl!

queen ledge
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Thx

dark jungle
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  1. This thread is not for National Dex Mono, this thread is for SV Mono
  2. This is not a valid Monotype team
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Mm

lusty anvil
# modern wren https://pokepast.es/2df10381e21077da

I feel like this team just kinda over the place when it comes to what it wants to accomplish. I also think the lack of air balloon/ geezing or other key poison types is just down bad. I honestly think a comp of Scarf okidogi, Pex, amoonguss, geezing, glowking and salazzle/ moth should be good to go. I just feel like this team is purposely trying to challange itself when it has better resources.

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/monotype-viability-rankings-july-2024.3734792/ i would check out the vr for what to look for in poison. its such a weird type rn

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Hi

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Flutter mane should always be specs or it hits like a wet noodle, or at least specs zoro here

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Sash idk what you’re sashing and it’s probably not gonna be useful because you don’t have removal

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Scarf ghold and flutter is OD, maybe colbur plot on gholdengo

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Oh and this is 6-0d by water type attacks

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You can’t fit all skele mimi spectrier

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Add either sinis/bramble/pult or literally both grass type + pult ; fairy ghost + pure ghost typing is overlapping your slots and this type should be doing good vs water or at least not get spammed by surf moment

amber bolt
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there are way too many stipulations for us to help you with this

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your team looks fine

final bison
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imagine only running 3 moves on tapu fini... also you need more bulk on pelipper, like no speed is needed. and try to win the weather war with hazards too. set rocks to chip down mega charizard y to help with that. Now if you are not confident in your skills (i doubt the skill a bit considering max speed pelipper and 3 moves fini, just use standard natdex mono sets) slap on politoed just to be sure.

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throw in some defensive tera types too, and you should be fine.

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if you still lose to mono fire with mono water then its an issue of skill.

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this is the only fighting sample team

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it should give you a decent idea of what is good

jaunty nebula
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do you rate natdex monotype here as well?

gentle rapids
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Monotype Fossil is real

south cairn
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and celesteela should just lean towards either fully physdef and spdef

south cairn
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i would go 200hp 252atk 56spe with an adamant nature, i would fit roost over trailblaze or fit another coverage option in knock off

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cloud peak
quasi rock
# cloud peak https://pokepast.es/0e2c4bfc6d045ce8

H.Zoro is just nicer than PZ due to its speed and immunities (you can keep using specs on it)

This team is a bit off, what were you building around though? Maush, Ambi, and Cinc are overlappy, Sash H.Zor is a bit iffy, and Ursa is too slow and prefers Drain Punchy

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For instance, if you wanna try full on offense, sticking a lead Smeargle with Band Cinc/ Scarf Staraptor, H.Zor, Terapagos, Ursaluna, Ditto would be nicer

cloud peak
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As for porygon-z

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It OHKO's basically everything I come across whether it resists or not so I kept it around

quasi rock
cloud peak
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Most the time when I encounter a setter I para them turn one and then encore

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Whilst I set up with tidy up

quasi rock
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You cant para the best setters (Gliscor/Great Tusk/Hippo/Clod :-:)

cloud peak
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As for pz

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I wonder if you can try it under webs

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It feels too slow right now at least

cloud peak
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Never thought of that

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Tho it somehow survives most hits

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I don't even know how or why

quasi rock
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Also really consider a ground immune (or a balloon)

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Ground just sets sand then band exca kills 3 with eq

cloud peak
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I've encountered exca before

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I usually 2HKO with tri attack but I can see the problem

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This is a sample team I found

quasi rock
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Yea thats balanced one

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A fully offensive one could be feasible, but balance should have better results

cloud peak
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Any suggestions with this team play wise?

quasi rock
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Terapagos should be conserved to beat the entry hazard setters or stinky setups

cloud peak
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Like scarm

quasi rock
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I'd suggest running Psychic over Trick on H.Zoro so that you stand a bit of chance against Fighting, though if Zama is Sub ID just click x and move on

quasi rock
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You can use Ursa to beat skarm since this is fire punch too...

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Ditto is great for revenge killing and bullying Dragon teams

cloud peak
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I led hzoro almost OHKO cuz sturdy and they forced out ursa

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Almost swept with terapogos

south cairn
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keen ferry
quasi rock
# keen ferry https://pokepast.es/7a62dd0312a35058 Is it viable and how to use it

Poison suffers a bit from being too passive when everything is too reactive right now

Honestly speaking, the poison team is a bit outdated, as this team doesnt have a Gliscor answer/steelbreaker aside from salazzle, I'd honestly swap Salazzle or Sneasler for Bulk Up + 3 atks (third being ice punch) okidogi, or using overheat on salazzle for gholdengo, or using Iron Moth (choice specs) over Salazzle to deal with gliscor if you want

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Maybe @lusty anvil has other ideas on how to make this poison better too, though

tepid warren
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ngl

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this might not be real but you could try worry seed amoonguss for gliscor

lusty anvil
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Following up on the cat responses, just making it more offensive is the way to go right now in this meta. I have had success with having a double fighting poison comp and adding in specs iron moth and galarian slowking over salazzle and a muk. This also allows you to go bulk up, dogi or even scarf for speed control. Like what cat says just poison is in a weird spot rn

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And like royal said worry seed amoonguss

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I think also another comp of like scarf or BU dogi (more likely scarf) + Specs Iron Moth + Toxapex + Galarian Weezing + Overqwill + A Muk/Galarian Slowking can work as well. Hope this helps and like always happy gaming gmcat

keen ferry
keen ferry
lusty anvil
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Happens poison in a weird spot rn, its a hit or miss this metagame rn.

keen ferry
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What makes it funny is the old team im using is viable

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Keep playing passive

balmy stream
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Poison is kind of weird though as boomp had said

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its nearly in the same boat as bug in terms of viability

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Id say sneasler over Okidogi so Hatterene gets threatened

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theres a lot to be worried about here

rocky forge
old plaza
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its boots?

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wait

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its supposed to be boots idk wehre sash came from

old plaza
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because battle bond does not change forme in g9

rocky forge
old plaza
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urshifu has a bunch of random coverage and this team lacks speed control

old plaza
rocky forge
old plaza
old plaza
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also consider trying out rain

rocky forge
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replacing who tho

old plaza
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oh and scarf urshifu benefits from U turn

rocky forge
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right

old plaza
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there are def alotta stuff to change but this is just me giving what i can say

rocky forge
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alr

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drizzle or rain dance primarina?

old plaza
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Drizzle

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Nobody is running rain dance

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old plaza
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Why is heatran invested into both defenses and no ho

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Hp*

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That’s definitely the wrong way to invest in EVs 99% of the time

cloud peak
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It was originally av arch but I like herb better and I never ended up changing the evs

old plaza
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yeah but no matter the set this ev spread is unviable

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you almost always invest in some hp if you are doing real bulk investment

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all of these ev spreads are so random

cloud peak
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This is one of my older teams

lusty anvil
# cloud peak https://pokepast.es/fc322a4840dae38a

hey sup fam love the creativity of the team i feel like its just lacking speed control of the team, orthworm and copper is a flop in this meta rn. If you like the power herb e shot i would take off steel beam for like t bolt and also making the evs max speed and max special attack. i would also make either ghold or heatran your scarfer and remove orthworm and copper for kingambit and iron treads. you can also make iron treads your choice band user if you want and kingambit item is flexible as hell. I would also change the corvi set to B bird + U turn defog roost. heres an updated paste hope you like it 😄 (i kept p herb arch cuz u said you like it haha). https://pokepast.es/38bff1aece7afced

cloud peak
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K thanks

lusty anvil
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i put p gem on heatran

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^^ use that one instead

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with p gem heatran over m storm

cloud peak
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K I will

old plaza
exotic geodeBOT
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New [Gen 9] Monotype RMT @fathom maple, @pulsar inlet, @pulsar harbor, @quasi rock, @rugged shore, @limber basin, @balmy stream, @lyric sandal, @stable zinc, @tepid warren, @lusty anvil, @fathom cape. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

old plaza
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i dont really care about a singe type all that much once monodark got goobed hard by urshifu and chien pao ban

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maybe its still good but i wanna try stuff like fairy and steel now

lusty anvil
# old plaza https://pokepast.es/22d6b26ddeeb8487 did i cook or nah, im new so im kinda just ...

i think especially if your going for ho on fairy i wouldnt even recommend webs. I would always would want a klefki on the team. helps out against scizor while also setting up screens for your team since this team is setup spam. Also allows you to set up spikes to break sashes from like ceruledge which can be a pain in the ass for fairy teams i also would just make flutter mane specs and take off CM for Power Gem, gives team immediate wallbreaking while also dealing with the fire match up better. i would take off mimikyu for primarina as this allows you to bully most shit after a calm mind. Would make Enamorus Scarf with H wish over taunt for speed control + allows one of your sweepers a second chance. Hope this helps, like the concept on what you were going for tho and like always happy gaming gmcat

old plaza
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https://pokepast.es/6957bcc4035d81f8

Sorry for two rates in one day, but the kingambit suspect caught me off guard, and I want to use it before I say good bye to it in this suspect test!

exotic geodeBOT
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New [Gen 9] Monotype RMT @fathom maple, @pulsar inlet, @pulsar harbor, @quasi rock, @rugged shore, @limber basin, @balmy stream, @lyric sandal, @stable zinc, @tepid warren, @lusty anvil, @fathom cape. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

lusty anvil
# old plaza https://pokepast.es/6957bcc4035d81f8 Sorry for two rates in one day, but the ki...

all good, pretty straight forward, i would just make gambit more faster than base skarmory. so keep max attack, put 164 speed and the rest hp. I would swap out iron crown for treads as honestly its a flop especially for this comp, i honestly only see it working on like a screens team (would not recomend) + this allows you to actually have a way to deal with lando i which is a pain in the ass for the team. uhh gholdengo is flexible so i dont really have nothing to say about that, you dont necessarily need f blast you can run recover over it but thats up to you. you can also run scarf on it if you want for speed control. depending on if you put treads with rapid spin or nah is how you can decide if you want to use skarm or corviknight.

Skarmory is more utilize, being able to set spikes thus making the hazard stacking team way more useful but corvi is decent for hazard removal if not running spin on treads.

  • For the Iron treads item once you make the change can be a variety of items from boots, balloon, scarf, or even band.
  • Gholdengo if you want can be more SpD invested to deal with iron valiant better for the team.

Other than that looks dope hope this helps and like always happy gaming gmcat

old plaza
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Oh and I forgot to change to overlord

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Thanks

balmy stream
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how are there already so many momotype helpers

balmy stream
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you have subtle coverage for heatran

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which is good

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but nothing for Garganacl

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Ditto isnt gonna beat it choice locked

balmy stream
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@lusty anvil @tepid warren can Hisuian Zoroark fit over P2 here

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i just realized that this team is walled by Mega Aero....

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so we need something to deal with both that and Rock types

tepid warren
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i dont play ndm but

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ursaluna should be fine for rock types and porygon2 is good for aero

balmy stream
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hm

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then i dont really see an issue with the team

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unless im missing something

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252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Headlong Rush vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Garganacl: 542-642 (134.1 - 158.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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ok then its fine

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IF its Headlong Rush

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Garg would have to be +4 to OHKO with BP

lusty anvil
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team is fine honestly not really much to say haha

balmy stream
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oh alright

lusty anvil
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think the only thing i would change is put u turn over toxic on m pidgeot and like if your going for download p2 i would just go for sub over hp fire

balmy stream
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im very concerned about possible steel types like Skarmory screwing Ursaluna over

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especially if it has Rocky Helmet

lusty anvil
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its not, plus the team has ways around with dealing with steel. pretty straightforward

balmy stream
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wouldnt Skarm 2HKO Chansey?

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not only that, if you switch into ditto then just go into something like Archaludon

lusty anvil
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we have offensive pressure to deal with it

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ur thinking too hard on this match up

balmy stream
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well you know monotype better than I do, so ill just guess my way through this

waxen harbor
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Ngl Zoro-H would be nice here

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Instead of ditto