Is this hyper offense
#[DO NOT USE][ARCHIVED] SV OU Rates
dapper imp
Cuz glow king doesn’t fit in ho
Loaded dice set works best in Ho with ample hazard control
tender pecan
@lost sandal?
They wanted to build offence
And this absolutely does not lean balance there's no defensive core
spiral fable
this team is just all over the place ngl
why are you scarf lando when lead is so much better here, why are you av gking when boots is so much better, im not sure what tusk is doing here as you can easily get hazard control with just taunt on lando and free up the slot for a better fit, why ar eyou running pivot waterpon, why are you running tera ghost gambit
also what is that tusk set
just run like lead lando boots gking then pivot dpult/iron crown (better fairy mu with crown) over waterpon and smthng like zamazenta over tusk, then fix the gambit set and maybe swap out bolt for another spattack like darkrai/moth/ghold? iffy on that one but im not a fan of both sweepers blanking into encore
lost sandal
this team blanks into dozo and i dont like it should i run mixed kyurem
spiral fable
ok why cinderace over lando
also definitely dont run scale shot kyurem if its not veil
lost sandal
also definitely dont run scale shot kyurem if its not veil
ok, mixed?
lost sandal
u do have gking
is that enuf
ruby crest
honestly the team is fine u just need a ground if anything
tho tbh it also depends since u can go either offense or some type of balance/bo
burnt drift
https://pokepast.es/dadc3f15d288a973 thoughts on this balance
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fierce basin
No it's a special attack that rolls off of defense. For future reference save these questions for compgen instead of the rate my team channel please 
ashen dove
No it's a special attack that rolls off of defense. For future reference save th...
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This is the set-up spam team from sample, but volc and now gouge has been banned
ebon ember
ashen dove
I'm using raging bolt and iron moth but they don't feel the same
fierce basin
Samples got updated recently if you didn't see
ashen dove
Are there any better mons for set-up spamming?
fierce basin
No problem
Better to grab one that doesn't have a banned mon then try to replicate the banned mons tbh
ashen dove
Are there any better mons for set-up spamming?
Question still stands tho, i love set-up spam teams
ashen dove
https://pokepast.es/ea59146acdb91e2d
The team
ashen dove
Better to grab one that doesn't have a banned mon then try to replicate the bann...
It says last updated sept 2.
I thought you meant like they were updated recently.
fierce basin
Uh that feels recent to me since they'll often sit w the same team for momths
fierce basin
https://pokepast.es/ea59146acdb91e2d
Looks a bit like the CTC x vert dark spam team if you wanna try transitioning to that one https://pokepast.es/d9df62e9be9b2385
ashen dove
Uh that feels recent to me since they'll often sit w the same team for momths
Damn, didn't know that, I started like a month ago, things are still relatively new to me.
fierce basin
Welcome to the game
fierce basin
Did you change it for what faya said
spiral fable
its touching how little faith you have in my rate
fierce basin
Looks very weak to earthquake. Looks like it loses immediately to speed booster tusk bulking up and clicking eq/ice spinner
At a glance
spiral fable
im not sure why you swapped zamazenta to boots but you shouldn't
fierce basin
You need ID n maybe even roar
spiral fable
^
fierce basin
Are mfs still roaring w zama?
spiral fable
yeah its still a set
fierce basin
Seems appropriate here
spiral fable
since you have both crown and moth you can afford to drop some coverage on zama for roar
dapper imp
Are mfs still roaring w zama?
w zama?
spiral fable
with
dapper imp
oh
fierce basin
Hope this helps gl n have fun sorry I'm on mobile so I can't give u an updated paste myself
lost sandal
honestly the team is fine u just need a ground if anything
https://pokepast.es/8dd55bbd9c5222e3
something like this then?
https://pokepast.es/da427cfe05b93155
or just keep it like this and make it mixed kyurem
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weak vortex
Doesn’t need both weavile and meow commit one (weavile in my opinion) meow should be a water resistance cause you lack one. Perhaps alomomola
sly pulsar
https://pokepast.es/59df1a448f2d52bf did I cook?
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sly pulsar
I have been playing with a sample stall team for a bit
So I kind of understood what I was going for
Double Regenerator, blissey, clefable needs to swap to unaware
tender pecan
bastiodon in a tier where there are like 23 ground types is a choice for sure
sly pulsar
Tera ghost bastiodon
tender pecan
well yes but thats committing your tera lmao
fierce basin
I haven't stalled in gen9ou but pretty sure they use teras for stuff like waterpon, which would lead against your team, click swords dance and defeat you
spiral fable
Bastiodon is so bad
spiral fable
https://pokepast.es/59df1a448f2d52bf did I cook?
Massive tera hog which means you lose to literally every wall breaker
Especially any psynoise/psyshock/stored power user as well as kingambit and waterpon
quick bluff
Especially any psynoise/psyshock/stored power user as well as kingambit and wate...
erm actually bastiodon can run soundproof and beat every psynoiser 👆
spiral fable
You’re a bastiodon you’re going to get crumpled by primarina
cloud gull
https://pokepast.es/59df1a448f2d52bf did I cook?
u need dozo
quick bluff
You’re a bastiodon you’re going to get crumpled by primarina
ur immune to psynoise and resist moonblast
checkmate
cloud gull
unaware less stall is unfortunately not real
quick bluff
(yes ik it is not remotely viable)
cloud gull
ur just asking to get cooked by kingambit and all other setups
quick bluff
just being silly 🤪
karmic lake
ur immune to psynoise and resist moonblast
not when you tera, which youre basically forced to
sly pulsar
You’re a bastiodon you’re going to get crumpled by primarina
Tera electric tera blast
spiral fable
Ok but the insane lengths you are going to go still lose to the vast majority of threats you should not be losing to as stall is simply not worth it
sly pulsar
Alr
spiral fable
Bastiodon is ass in OU and forever will be
spiral fable
Want a mon that relies on Rest for recovery while having insane bulk? Dondozo is 100x better
sly pulsar
True true
spiral fable
Want a rock type that’s a massive tera hog? Garg may not fit on stall, but even it’ll do better on this team than Bastiodon
spiral fable
If you're just going to insult my basti like that
If you came to this channel for validation instead of rating and advice this is the wrong place
Bastiodon is ass, drop it
dapper imp
Weavile over tusk I think
You can consider sinistcha over gold too
Sure ghold is the better overall Pokémon but Chas niche is insane
Positive matchup vs all spinners (tusk and treads lol)
Also switch meow with raging bolt if you do that
You get some immediate power + a water resist like the previous guy was talking
And threaten defoggers
karmic lake
Positive matchup vs all spinners (tusk and treads lol)
tera ice ice spinner /j
spiral fable
Weavile over tusk I think
this is remarkably close to an old sample team
ebon ember
Ok
spiral fable
but wtv, you shouldn't have both meow and weavile here
ebon ember
I know
spiral fable
not a big fna of gliscor ting lu is the far better spdef wall and setter for this team
i would drop weavile for a defensive pivot like gking or primarina to ensure you have a backup spdef wall for mons that ting lu can't handle like walking wake
and probably swap out meow for ogerpon-teal but meow is aight ig
like memester mentioned you can consider calm mind sinistcha over ghold but i think ghold is fine and gives your team a bit of power that it needs
dapper imp
gking is good
used it in my old hazard stack team
tbh i feel like balance hazard stack isnt that good rn tho
subtect kyurem exists
and destroys balance
hazard stack will 100% become better once kyurem is gone
spiral fable
*if
ebon ember
Faya, should I replace ghold?
wheat silo
https://pokepast.es/126ba19a3d84d0ef how can I imrpove this?
junior harness
https://pokepast.es/126ba19a3d84d0ef how can I imrpove this?
Ceruledge is inconsistent to say the least and this set doesn’t make it any better
Also lando here isn’t a good fit on hyper offense
Which is what the glimmora indicate
junior harness
Lando is fine as a lead on HO
But he has glim, I don’t think dual leads is really that good
spiral fable
its power herb glimm
not a fan of glimm in general here honestly, a bit too slow for my liking
junior harness
Glimm might be better on webs then
wheat silo
alright thanks
lost sandal
https://pokepast.es/8dd55bbd9c5222e3
would this be decent
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tender pecan
Glimm might be better on webs then
Yeah if not webs it's forced to run rock polish which imma be so fr isn't very good
tender pecan
https://pokepast.es/8dd55bbd9c5222e3
would this be decent
Running no hazard removal is gonna make kyurem much more afraid to switch in
lost sandal
i did NOT notice that mb
lost sandal
Running no hazard removal is gonna make kyurem much more afraid to switch in
what would u recommend
lost sandal
You could make kyu boots too
that seems okay i guess but no hazard removal on this type of team is a huge L
cant believe i didnt see that
tender pecan
Most of the team doesn't mind hazards too much
lost sandal
I have laddered +100 then I lost to some weird balance stall and a miss? Any cha...
ival going crazy after this one
ebon ember
Bump, any help?
spiral fable
I am very confused about both the structure of this team, the mons, and the sets you picked for each
spiral fable
https://pokepast.es/d7d4b6792b41f19b
So it seems like bulky offense, but then why do you have a bunch of slow breakers
And then you round it out with 4 A Zamazenta?
You’re running ddance kyurem with loaded dice which frankly is mid at best if it’s not on a snow team
Idk why you have primarina as a breaker here, I don’t like any of this teams matchups into threats like Waterpon or Dragapult
And like that other dude said Iron Valiant just runs through this team
Swap out Primarina for Darkrai, I would drop Kyurem for safe speed control in Iron Valiant which also frees your Zamazenta to run IDBP instead, and I would consider swapping out bolt for Kingambit but bolt is alright
lost sandal
what this good fellow said ^ i didnt have the patience to write allat down
why is it that i can recognize errors of other teams but not mine?
hubris?
lost sandal
And like that other dude said Iron Valiant just runs through this team
twas me!!
karmic lake
why is it that i can recognize errors of other teams but not mine?
maybe youre better at looking from a third person view?
lost sandal
maybe youre better at looking from a third person view?
probably lmao
karmic lake
youd need to clone yourself and ask your clone to review your teams XD
sly mauve
struggling with stall and garg, if nothing is wrong with my team any advice on how to beat stall/garg?
dapper imp
how is this team everyone
used it to ladder to 1700 as so far so im p confident in it
sly mauve
and maybe in general make it more offensive?
alright i'll try it thanks
karmic lake
alright i'll try it thanks
with covert cloak youre immune to salt cure
and a lot of stuff when combined with good as gold
sly mauve
anything else or should that be good?
karmic lake
id personally run a wallbreaker like specs kyurem, or just any good wallbreaker
sly mauve
id personally run a wallbreaker like specs kyurem, or just any good wallbreaker
switching it for what?
sorry im kinda brain dead when it comes to teambuilding
karmic lake
probably draga, since both youre stab options are already covered by other mons (roaring moon and ghold if you run shadow ball)
sly mauve
alright thanks i'll see how it goes
karmic lake
wishing you all the best
spiral fable
Specs kyurem and specs Dragapult are both notoriously bad into stall
So if you want them for the stall mu you should look elsewhere
Why is this team just 6 offensive mons
At that point just run hyper offense
O also your Val mu is really bad
tender pecan
yeah this is HO for sure
uhhhh
I'd give dnite e speed
over roost
and then make it tera normal
or over outrage actually
it does make you a bit of a tera hog tho
alternatively you can drop it for another attacker and also drop hamu for like
some other mon
uncut palm
what is HO?
karmic lake
its a playstyle
uncut palm
i tried to make it around dragonite bc its been one of my favs since gen 1
i wna use flygon but its just too weak ig
tender pecan
do not use flygon lmfao
hasn't been OU since gen 4
you can keep dnite then and maybe drop roaring
uncut palm
so -espeed -roost -earthquake -dragon dance good?
uncut palm
how abt earthquake for outrage
tender pecan
generally tho with that set you wanna preserve dnite for the late game
earthquake is so you can hit steels
so I'd advise against it
uncut palm
you can keep dnite then and maybe drop roaring
what would u swap roaring moon w?
karmic lake
zamazenta is good
maybe crown?
tender pecan
yeah I use that set
its lowkey a gimmick
that heavily relies on screens and also surprise factor
karmic lake
like my pory-z set (i love it so much i could just talk about it 24/7)
tender pecan
but yeah I'd slot zama instead of roaring and then maybe iron moth over hamu
or nasty plot darkrai
but then the team looks very similar to the dark spam HO sample
tender pecan
I think ghold is fine here but if you do wanna swap it, idk maybe throw on raging bolt for some more speed control or like, literally any special attacker
uncut palm
ok i think ill go w iron moth and darkrai, what roles do they serve?
tender pecan
they're both sweepers
HO which is what this team very much leans into just wants to stack sweepers and end the game as fast as possible
ur game plan is very simple
just take as many KOs in as little time as possible
in exchange tho you have basically no defensive backbone
the best offence is a good defence type mindset
uncut palm
so I set w glimmora and then take out all dragonites weaknesses and then sweep w dragonite?
tender pecan
you set up with glimmora then just destroy everything yeah
dnite because of its moveset you preferably wanna eliminate its checks
like dragapult
so yeah you wouldn't send in dnite super early
uncut palm
yeah the dragon darts get me
tender pecan
but ur not necesarily tryna sweep with just dnite you're tryna sweep with everyone if you get what I mean
uncut palm
yeah i get u
tender pecan
but yeah hope that helped
you have relatively standard HO so it should be pretty sound
just be careful against certain mons like hexpult
and you should be fine
man I love indoctrinating people into HO
uncut palm
do i just let glimmora die?
tender pecan
usually yes
its sacked to keep momentum so something else can come in safely
with HO most of your mons are very frail so they can't afford to switch in on an attack
spiral fable
Nocturne gets another one…
tender pecan
the HO cult expands >:3
spiral fable
do i just let glimmora die?
It’s literally called a suicide lead cuz they come in set hazards die
tender pecan
soon I will defeat big stall
with the help of the 27 breakers left in the tier
you killed gouging but not the idea...
uncut palm
I think ghold is fine here but if you do wanna swap it, idk maybe throw on ragin...
well what are some good special attackers that would work on this team?
kinggambit?
tender pecan
as I said iron moth, darkrai, raging bolt, hatterene if you wanna keep hazards off ig, even sinistcha if ur feeling quirky like that but I'd go with one of the first 3
uncut palm
no hes prob phys
tender pecan
kingambit is NOT a special attacker lmfao
uncut palm
bro is covered in swords
tender pecan
air slash kingambit will be the future one day
uncut palm
ok srry I just have this thing where i dont like having too many of those robot pokemon on my team
tender pecan
booster mons are imo best on HO
since ur not switching anyway
and also like
paradox mons are legit everywhere
¯_(ツ)_/¯
who woulda guessed a bunch of base 570/590 mons with minmaxed stats and an ability that can give them a scarf boost without the downside of scarf would be good
except of course
scream tail..
tender pecan
I don't like how much powercreep they caused but they're good soo
depends
draco if you want like a big nuke
pulse if you intend to spam the move
bitter trout
How can I improve this team? https://pokepast.es/bd0b14032e9aa1d8
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lost sandal
https://pokepast.es/8dd55bbd9c5222e3
what do i replace
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pliant raptor
chat what beats ogerpon w
lost sandal
chat what beats ogerpon w
#comp-general
maiden quartz
Anything I could do to improve the team?
https://pokepast.es/2eecda536d4763df
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weak vortex
Anything I could do to improve the team?
https://pokepast.es/2eecda536d4763df
Not bad you did pretty well with this build. I would suggest making prim av
Kingambit can probably be balloon tera fire. So at least one of your physical mons isn’t heavily punished by it.
Make pult specs (so you have at least one immediate breaker.>
And give slowking thunder wave > toxic
maiden quartz
Not bad you did pretty well with this build. I would suggest making prim av
Kin...
Thanks for the feedback
I do have a question to ask about Kingambit, why Tera Fire?
Is it because they can be immune to Burn?
lost sandal
Thanks for the feedback
I do have a question to ask about Kingambit, why Tera Fi...
yeah
weak vortex
Thanks for the feedback
I do have a question to ask about Kingambit, why Tera Fi...
Ye
maiden quartz
Ye
I see
I should've that the reason I had Dragapult the hex set was to deal high damage, aided by its will o wisp and Glowking toxic
But a special breaker like Pult might be more preferred for the team as wel
weak vortex
Ye definitely
Boots pult good for sure I just think these needed something that feels more immediate damage
desert bridge
https://pokepast.es/b12d8a7246c1843c can someone help me improve this team? Tried to go a little off meta for the funs
desert bridge
@weak vortex
weak vortex
Hi I’ll get to it in a bit when I can if not someone else will 🙏🏾
dusky kindle
https://pokepast.es/b12d8a7246c1843c can someone help me improve this team? Trie...
You seem to be really stacking weaknesses in a bad way. Like you have two fire weaks, two ice weaks, three water weaknesses (no resist)
Scizor is probably the most replaceable though I'm not sure valiant is that worth it since you have scarf enamorus and also drill as speed control
A lot of sand teams like Ogerponw as a water deterrent, rillaboom could also work, both fit the hit hard + U-turn niche scizor has
I would drop spin on drill for rock slide
For moltres
desert bridge
You seem to be really stacking weaknesses in a bad way. Like you have two fire w...
collect my weaknesses…
merry plover
Believe me dude, the webs help
dull plume
Yeah, but the teammates aren’t the best abusers for webs
desert bridge
Scizor is probably the most replaceable though I'm not sure valiant is that wort...
What about iron valiant?
should i replace it too?
im thinking keldeo-r
for SpA
marble vessel
spiral fable
https://pokepast.es/e24ab020cf47ce24https://pokepast.es/584b9bdd496b68d9
We only rate one team, please do not post multiple
lost sandal
We only rate one team, please do not post multiple
its one sent a lot of times lmao
spiral fable
Ok well please just send it once lol
ebon ember
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spiral fable
Val should be mixed booster
Also you didn’t do what I said
So
I’m not sure why you’re posting here again if you weren’t willing to listen the first time
spiral fable
https://pokepast.es/638f3e1d76e44fcb
I already rated this team, and if you weren’t willing to listen that’s up to you
But don’t repost it here asking for a different rate my advice didn’t change from the first time
finite aurora
https://pokepast.es/85746953d52e8968
Evil subseed serp team
thinking about maybe changing nuzzle or something to mystic fire
spiral fable
https://pokepast.es/85746953d52e8968
Evil subseed serp team
what is the team structure here
you have serp which only sees usage on ho, but also hex pult which is on more bo/balance + corv which is usually on bulkier offenses or balances, and then blissey? which is only used on stall?
finite aurora
idk idea was to take advantage of paralyzing everything
corv because scary kingambit
blissey because of scary SpA
idk i just wanted to make a team around sub leech seed and paralysis
spiral fable
this team doesn't really work
sub serp is cool until you raelize you now have grass stab only, which means that every single dragon in the tier eats you alive (and trust me there's a lot)
besides that, serp only works on hyper offense teams so that its checks can be worn down, which this team is not
blissey only works on hard stall because its so passive and easy to exploit
finite aurora
yeah I just thought making a team around statuses would be fun, because things like para spam can just win if like their whole team now gets outsped or haxed, then realizing im playing poor man's sticky web
my other idea was make a wisp team where i just wisp everything and then have blissey to check spa or something
but i realize these ideas are more funny than actually able to be done well
maybe i could try like a pult balance team but i dont really know where to start
besides pult ofc
maybe like a beefy kingambit to take advantage of everything being statused and being a ghost/dark resist?
spiral fable
maybe i could try like a pult balance team but i dont really know where to start
pult balance team works well with other status spreaders like moltres or zapdos or gking, etc etc etc
you can pick to either go hstack in which case youd need a knock absorber hazard stackers like ting lu etc
or you can go with hazard removal balance in which case you need either tusk/corv (or another option for hazard removal)
add a breaker or two like kyurem, an offensive threat like gambit, a knock off user, and then maybe another defensive mon if your defensive core has weaknesses
hasty dune
https://pokepast.es/2686d69cc6c4e780 Dragon spam (or at least, my first attempt at it)
ebon ember
lost sandal
#comp-general for uncompleted teams, loaded dice scale shot is best or just run nmi if u want mixed
lost sandal
https://pokepast.es/8dd55bbd9c5222e3
something like this then?
https://pokepast....
been asking for a rate of this team for a while now, can anyone help
desert bridge
granite cloud
https://pokepast.es/da8fdcdcec0de219
I think you should add at least 1 knock off user if you want to make a hazard stack team
light agate
wraith oriole
https://pokepast.es/47c4040ae15fc987 as good as my team is I feel like it could use some reworks or improvements. any mons I can switch out for something better?
maybe a phasing user could be useful
lost sandal
Notice? https://pokepast.es/120d166a967fa542
i just told u
light agate
i just told u
The team was not complete and now it is complete...
lost sandal
The team was not complete and now it is complete...
... still told u
loaded dice scale shot
light agate
loaded dice scale shot
The problem is that I no longer touch Kingambit
lost sandal
The problem is that I no longer touch Kingambit
just run nmi / tera fire tera blast / tera ground tera blast
nmi mixed fyi
light agate
just run nmi / tera fire tera blast / tera ground tera blast
The other problem is that I can no longer surprise Dondozo and do huge damage to him with Freeze-Dry + Tera Ice
This is the only solution I found to get through Dondozo quickly
lost sandal
The other problem is that I can no longer surprise Dondozo and do huge damage to...
...
nmi???
lost sandal
Are you talking about the object Never-Melt Ice?
yeah
weak vortex
Nmi is good asf
light agate
best for mixed kyurem
I just made this small change and is there anything else that needs to be changed? https://pokepast.es/13a8d6a1906e92dc
ebon ember
lost sandal
Nmi is good asf
can u help me out btw i have been asking for around 3-4 days 😅
weak vortex
Oh ye my bad sorry been a bit busy haven’t checked this channel as much I’ll try to rate it as soon as I can
Post the paste here and I’ll get to it when able
weak vortex
https://pokepast.es/13a8d6a1906e92dc
Make prim tera steel with torrent
Hydro/surf, cal mind, moon blast and psy noise
Make moth tera ground
Give tusk bulk up tera poison head long rush spinner and spin
Other than that seems fine
ebon ember
wraith oriole
could someone help me? i've been asking for a while now
spiral fable
A lot of the raters are really busy, please have some patience
wraith oriole
okay. sorry
junior harness
https://pokepast.es/4cd12542cf7fb09f
That iron valiant be mysterious over there
Also, if you are running steel beam you might as well dedicate it to special attack with earth power
As it hits great tusk harder and prevents glim from setting up tspikes
tender pecan
Isn't steel beam usually on lead sets anyway
Cause the whole
Half your health in recoil
lost sandal
Post the paste here and I’ll get to it when able
oh okay
https://pokepast.es/8dd55bbd9c5222e3
here
weak vortex
Make the zama the more offensive spread on smogon with the id press
Give lando taunt over gknot up to you tho
Prob just go tera fire on gambit
Think that’s it
lost sandal
ok ty
lost sandal
Think that’s it
https://pokepast.es/7423896f708cda6d
this? i changed the gambit set and lando set btw or should i keep them as is
(tera fire gambit btw)
weak vortex
Yuh
ruby crest
me no like the lack of knocker here besides that team looks fine
lost sandal
me no like the lack of knocker here besides that team looks fine
oki ty
bitter quail
Howdy. Mostly aiming to swap heatran out bvut open to any suggestions to make team better :). https://pokepast.es/3e1e0e234061ec98
karmic lake
tera ice glisc?
bitter quail
Yeah Idk :X lol
I played comp but havent in a while and I wanetd to just make my own team.
karmic lake
tera water is strictly better xd
tho im not a team rater, so i dont want to give wrong advice
lost sandal
tera water is strictly better xd
true
karmic lake
gliscor is a defensive mon, and water is flat out better than ice defensively
and its not like youre running any ice moves for stab on any coverage (which isnt even a good idea)
bitter quail
oh ok
karmic lake
also tera ice on meow does confuse me tbh, but id wait on advice with that for someone who knows more
bitter quail
ok ty. Yeah it was for triple axle but Im prob not thinking of better uses
lost sandal
why water vs ice?
water covers its water/ice weakness
bitter quail
I really like heatran but idk he isnt reliable
lost sandal
its also a better defensive typing
karmic lake
ok ty. Yeah it was for triple axle but Im prob not thinking of better uses
with protean, you turn into an ice type if its the first move you click anyways, so its kinda pointless
lost sandal
maybe a better buildfor him exists
use smogon for sets 💯 of times
karmic lake
I thought his wa s asmogon set
if you 100% want to use heatran, id read the segment under the set you want, where it often says what pokemon are good partners for it and build the team that way
bitter quail
I am not set on Heatran actually
If anyone I dont mind swapping its him but idk who would plug into my team easily
karmic lake
thoughts on curse dondozo?
bitter quail
Hmm
Idk kind of gimmicky? Havent used him just fought him
Move 1
Waterfall
Body Press
Move 2
Curse
Avalanche
Move 3
Rest
Move 4
Sleep Talk
This set?
desert bridge
https://pokepast.es/66fa11565017b43e i’ve been playing with this team for a while and gettin mixed results for it, what can i improve here?
bitter quail
ALso who would I lead with
bitter quail
hmm
desert bridge
or a counterpick for the enemy lead
this depends on a read
desert bridge
I need a hazard setter or remover
GT is great for that
he has spin and stealth rock
desert bridge
just pray your foe doesn’t have a ghost type
desert bridge
so he can switch in and you won’t be able to rapid spin
skarmory is a good pick too, but he has spikes instead of srock
and defog which doesn’t depend on typing
but also remove the hazards you set
desert bridge
better than heatran?
you could keep heatran as the setter and choose another as a remover
bitter quail
I may have to chnage more than one pokemon huh
hmm
who isnt meshing in my team well
karmic lake
skarmory is a good pick too, but he has spikes instead of srock
also skarm is more passive than tusk
desert bridge
just like i did with my sand team there
bitter quail
does ice spinner remove hazards
desert bridge
does ice spinner remove hazards
no, only ends the current terrain
i.e: rillaboom sets grass terrain, a mon uses ice spin, grass terrain ends because of ice spin
bitter quail
oh ok
Hmm..
I feel like I have a weakness inhazards but i am prob overthinking
what about my zamazenta
could it have btter moves?
wraith oriole
Hi guys. would any one of you want to help me out. No rush!
upper holly
I feel like I have a weakness inhazards but i am prob overthinking
you arndt
arent*
this team is really weak to hazards
upper holly
why water vs ice?
ice is shit
bitter quail
i need a good defog/rapid spinner
upper holly
thats all
bitter quail
lol
upper holly
ngl idk why nobody is using tera steel gliscor
so you arent still weak to freeze dry
bitter quail
ohhh and ice and water
upper holly
you could just use boots spam for hazards
like pult usually uses boots
meow usually does
bitter quail
oh not choice band?
bitter quail
Prim needs AV for me
upper holly
if prim has draining kiss it can probably get away with no hdb
although you are COOKED if they get full hazards
dense gull
junior harness
https://pokepast.es/acbf15106a49e07f
Blaziken is kinda ass, and the set you are using is also ass
Same could be said for iron boulder
You have no consistent answer for gambit and stuff
chrome bramble
https://pokepast.es/c0f126a5746748c4 this is a sample team. it's pretty good, but i genuinely have no answers to headlong rush from tusk. i can swap in rilla but thats about it
spiral fable
https://pokepast.es/c0f126a5746748c4 this is a sample team. it's pretty good, bu...
what do you want us to say
chrome bramble
what do you want us to say
am i playing the team wrong
or am i just bound to get fucked by great tusk
spiral fable
you have rillaboom
and cornernstone
and also you shouldnt be posting in this channel if you'r elooking for tips on how to play the team
especially if this isn't a team you made
chrome bramble
my bad cuh
hardy plume
kinda experimented made this:
https://pokepast.es/b3d6fa8747cada5f
spiral fable
kinda experimented made this:
https://pokepast.es/b3d6fa8747cada5f
please only post one, as we will only rate one
spiral fable
this team is kinda all over the place
you have spdef dondozo (which btw isn't very good), which only fits on stall
alongside 4 attack enamorus with expert belt?
there's no hazards, no offensive pressure, and you have a decent defensive core but it A: gets 5/6-0ed by kyurem depending on the set and B: gets 6-0ed by ogerpon-wellspring
also a defensive core is worthless if you don't have offensive mons/hazards to force progress
you seem new to team building, so i would recommend using a sample team for now to learn what roles each team should have, and the common team styles used, which will help you when you decide to build your next team
i mean any team i give you would be worse than these
it doesn't really matter if your team is known by all (any good player can identiy most of your sets at a glance)
these are teams built by top tournament players
ok if you came here to troll get out
if you seriously came here for advice, go run a sample
frozen hinge
good teams will remain good even if known
thats why theyre samples
nothing left to discuss past that
if you have other teams that are capable of being rated
feel free to drop one of those
spiral fable
kinda experimented made this:
https://pokepast.es/b3d6fa8747cada5f
This team is unfortunately split between a heavily offensive style with Dragon Dance Roaring Moon, Iron Valiant, and Gholdengo, Balance with Rotom-Wash, and then a heavily defensive one with Clodsire
These mons just don't synergize well with each other, Ddance rmoon wants to be surrounded by other offensive threats that can keep up offensive pressure and chip down walls so rmoon can sweep, but Clodsire is a very passive mon that wants to set hazards and be surrounded by other bulky teammates so it can stall out the opponent long term
AV Tusk isn't a very good set unfortunately as most of the special ttackers in the tier nail you for super effective damage anyways, so the added bulk isn't much in the long term + you struggle to complete your role as a hazard clearer with no boots since you will rack up a bunch of damage just switching in to clear
And Wash wants to find itself on bulkier balance teams, with a mix of hazard stacking teammates and some offensive threats that can come in repeatedly to pressure the opposing team and force switches, which unfortunately this team does not do as rmoon hates switching in more than once and similarly ghold and val have no recovery and no boots so they get chipped down easily
So your team is just split between three different playstyles that clash heavily with each other, and as a result doesn't really work
frozen hinge
I dont rate sv
spiral fable
The core of Rmoon Iron Valiant (with a different set) and Gholdengo could work on some hyper offense team, but the other three teammates actively hurt each other
I would recommend you use a sample team to learn common team structures, but if you want this team can be salvaged by pivoting to hyper offense and dropping rotom wash clod tusk and swapping valiant to a sweeping set like swords dance or calm mind, then adding on a few other sweepers and a suicide lead like glimmora
ebon ember
I don't think I have posted
But the team so far
I replaced lando for lead iron treads
Special
desert bridge
https://pokepast.es/ee2f39820124ee4a i feel excadrill’s balloon is being useless and i wanna switch it, other than that, how can i improve this?
grave ginkgo
https://pokepast.es/c3409850f8f9d217
tried making webs team again since I love it
tired badge
ruby crest
https://pokepast.es/15cc593754d149cc
Ngl this is just ctc hydra sample with a few changes
ebon ember
https://pokepast.es/9b3d064f833d7345 I have treads now
pliant raptor
https://pokepast.es/ee4363531f4c5ea2 probably should have jolly on KG and mayhaps terra earth instead of elec on kyu
tired badge
Ngl this is just ctc hydra sample with a few changes
? is it good though i saw the hydrapple rotom wash and moltres on that sample and thought it was cool so i tried making a team round it
ruby crest
I mean you’re just straight up plagiarizing a team with a few of your own edits, normally don’t ask for a rate of sample teams even if you make slight edits since it’s clear what it’s based on
hardy plume
I would recommend you use a sample team to learn common team structures, but if ...
https://pokepast.es/7e766386aa602f82 something like this or stick to samples?
spiral fable
https://pokepast.es/7e766386aa602f82 something like this or stick to samples?
mostly solid, but a few issues
hardy plume
mostly solid, but a few issues
originaly i did baxcalibur but hes tagged uber so dragonite hes replacement ig
spiral fable
A: valiant's main draw is its speed with booster, so you should run booster over life orb, and shadow sneak + spirit break are poor choices for attacks and knock off + encore are much better for coverage and utility
B: ghodlengo should be nasty plot 2-3 attack with balloon, not choice scarf, as you dont really need scarfers on ho + the sweepers you want to outspeed already beat ghold
C: dnite should be fire punch/roost/encore instead of outrage, as outrage isn't very good + dnite doesn't need the coverage
D: glimmora should be tera ghost to spin block if necsssary
hardy plume
spiral fable
looks good, might want eq over firepunch on dnite but other thna that solid
o you want tera dark on valiant
ruby crest
mono eq dnite ?
spiral fable
https://pokepast.es/794988c7475fa961 👍?
i meant you should pick one move between fire punch/roost/encore instead of outrage, instead of replacing all its moves lol
junior harness
A: valiant's main draw is its speed with booster, so you should run booster over...
Btw did you notice that his moon is crunch over knock?
junior harness
o god it keep sgeting worse
Oh and also hasty iron valiant
ruby crest
are you trying to go for ho/offense or something bo
hardy plume
please run knock
i am running knock
lost sandal
are you trying to go for ho/offense or something bo
it seems to be bo from what i see but idk why moon is there
gusty zealot
i tried making a hazard stack team, id like some feedback for improvement, or pokemon to switch out
junior harness
https://pokepast.es/de1385e235646451
Hazard stack with no spikes on gliscor
I personally like spikes on gliscor tho
gusty zealot
would you recommend gliscor also use knock or toxic?
and what should i replace ting lu with?
@junior harness
junior harness
would you recommend gliscor also use knock or toxic?
Knock, all day long for hazard stack
junior harness
and what should i replace ting lu with?
Idk if you need to replace Lu tho, it’s used quite a lot on hazard stack
gusty zealot
Idk if you need to replace Lu tho, it’s used quite a lot on hazard stack
two spike setters?
junior harness
It could work, but take that with a grain of salt.
Or you can replace it
With another phaser
Like roar zama
Also
Darkrai could run through your entire team once lu is low enough
gusty zealot
thanks for the advice!
lost sandal
https://pokepast.es/757353ef7d57ec86
found smwhere and seems cool, thoughts?
spiral fable
https://pokepast.es/757353ef7d57ec86
found smwhere and seems cool, thoughts?
if you didnt build this team please dont post it here
lost sandal
if you didnt build this team please dont post it here
oh, okay, should i post in comp gen?
weak vortex
Honestly I would probably suggest samples here.
-
Kilowattrel is not viable in ou it outclassed offensively by other mons and it’s a poor ground immunity Mon simply because it’s very frail.
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Ogerpon teal is outclassed by its other forms but more so wellspring. It pretty much stone walled by every bird in the tier.
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While the other mons here are viable in ou the sets and tera choices are questionable. For example the tera ground on moltres. Which while it seems handy to have an electric immunity it makes you much worse into stuff it probably wants to check with tera for example ogerpon wellspring ot kingambit. Additionally there isn’t much team synergy. Too much would have to be changed to actually make suggestions.
Play gen 9 ou samples for awhile pay attention to the team structures. Also when you battle pay attention to to what your opponent brings too. Also please check the viability rankings for ou.
junior harness
Honestly I would probably suggest samples here.
1. Kilowattrel is not viable i...
Teal mask ogerpon is currently A- on the Vr
It’s definitely not completely outclassed with that ranking
But this team is definitely not gonna make it live up to the A- Rank
weak vortex
Teal mask ogerpon is currently A- on the Vr
Ye ye gotcha 👍🏾
hazy nova
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!pokepast
!pokepast
wow
im getting wilded
just send on pokepaste
hazy nova
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hazy nova
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grave ginkgo
https://pokepast.es/f203cbdac3715721
I made gholdengo so that it can survive bulk up tusk headlong rush and salac berry can outspeed dragapult
hazy nova
Your school blocked pokepast but not sd or disc?
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ripe sinew
https://pokepast.es/bf7ac337c09c1fce does anyone know what I can change on my grassy terrain team that synergises well enough, and alleviates my hopeless mu vs kyurem? The rillaboom and grassy glide ogerpon must be kept
quick bluff
https://pokepast.es/bf7ac337c09c1fce does anyone know what I can change on my gr...
glide pon is cool in theory but i would change the set slightly
pwhip over play rough as u def dont want glide as ur only grass stab
and i’d make it adamant
for the kyu mu i’d drop heatran for av iron crown
ripe sinew
I haven't considered AV crown, ty
quick bluff
also wood hammer on rilla over low kick
ripe sinew
Was only keeping play rough for kyu too
quick bluff
and prob rocks over temper flare on tusk
iyk you could also make rbolt grassy seed
or booster
but i think that’s more subjective than the other changes
ripe sinew
Thanks a lot
ripe sinew
Update: I got screwed over by 3 spa booster iron moths in a row somehow
sly pulsar
https://pokepast.es/bb8bdb3c63a4db07 thoughts? trying to build around haxorus
surreal bloom
ebon ember
upper holly
https://pokepast.es/bb8bdb3c63a4db07 thoughts? trying to build around haxorus
why is half your team life orb
just run black glasses or smth on gambit
and idk what tusk needs the extra damage for
spiral fable
https://pokepast.es/bb8bdb3c63a4db07 thoughts? trying to build around haxorus
this is not viable
why do you have banded lokix alongside skeledrige, three life orb users, screens setter without any good screens abusers except ig kingambit
theres no synergy between any of these mons, i dont really know why you're trying to make haxorus of all mons work but this definitely isn't it
duckular made some old rmt about haxorus webs check that one out if you want to try and us eit ig
sly pulsar
why do you have banded lokix alongside skeledrige, three life orb users, screens...
i thought haxorus could safely set up ddance behind screens
spiral fable
Not really
You’re still really frail and you still get outsped by a lot
You might trade 1 for 1 but that’s at most you’ll get, and if you run into an encore user you might not even get that 1
sly pulsar
also why is banded lokix bad?
and skeledirge?
skeledirge has worked great for me so far
ruby crest
Issue is you have a Mon extremely vulnerable to hazards with other mons that is paired with a bunch of different mons with lo that are slowly going to get worn down
upper holly
also why is banded lokix bad?
dies to rocks in 0.5 turns
at least haxorus stops stall from being a guaranteed win
karmic lake
also it wants to fimp, but with band its not a good idea
ruby crest
You normally do use fimp even in cb
upper holly
the idea is just to one shot something then switch out
but in a tier where people are getting up full hazards instantly its not super good
ruby crest
its fine mon is solid with the proper support since tinted lense fimp tera bug has like little to no switchins and has relevant mons like knock and u turn
issue is doesnt fit as good here then again the whole team is weird with everything having lo
dull plume
also it wants to fimp, but with band its not a good idea
You’re still first impressioning with band but on this playstyle it’s really bad because you have nothing that really wants to take a hit when you’re forced out the turn after
stone dagger
https://pokepast.es/3ff6be42abdc64e3 kinda like bulky offense I think
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bitter quail
Hello - https://pokepast.es/433da416bd9d653f. - I dont feel like I have much missing but I am having issues climbing the ladder. If my team is ok , who would you lead with, how would you play it?
bitter quail
I have issues with water types I think
weak vortex
Hello - https://pokepast.es/433da416bd9d653f. - I dont feel like I have much m...
Alright this isn’t too bad but I would
- Make pult specs
Dragapult @ Choice Specs
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Ghost
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Shadow Ball
- Flamethrower
- U-turn
- Fix the Zama spread to a more standard spread
Zamazenta @ Leftovers
Ability: Dauntless Shield
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 Spe
Tera Type: Steel
Jolly Nature
- Iron Defense
- Body Press
- Crunch
- Roar
- I suggest making heatran tera grass moltres helps you vs physical attackers like kingambit and tera grass allows you to check stuff that seems problematic here like ogerpon wellspring. Additionally providing a flying immunity without the need of running balloon.
Moltres @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 248 HP / 248 Def / 12 Spe
Tera Type: Fairy
Bold Nature
- Flamethrower
- Will-O-Wisp
- Roar
- Roost
- I would make tusk the offensive utility set
Great Tusk @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Protosynthesis
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Ground
Jolly Nature
- Headlong Rush
- Ice Spinner
- Knock Off
- Rapid Spin
Boots give it more longevity to reliably remove rocks for its teammates like primarina.
- Last change is making primarina assault vest which helps vs stuff like walking wake, opposing special variants of dragapult, and special iron valiant.
Primarina @ Assault Vest
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 80 HP / 252 SpA / 176 Spe
Tera Type: Steel
Modest Nature
- Surf
- Moonblast
- Flip Turn
- Psychic Noise
Also leads are entirely on what your opponent brings and should be selected accordingly.
For future explanation on how you would play it you can ask in #comp-general
sly pulsar
issue is doesnt fit as good here then again the whole team is weird with everyth...
Would it be a good team if I switched out some of the orbs
Like I understand tusk
He's just a setter, doesn't need orb
But I didn't know what item would work on him
spiral fable
No
dull plume
The problem is you’re running screens and half your mons don’t even abuse them well
spiral fable
The issue is 2/6 of these mons don’t fit and then another 1 of them is unviable
Also you’re using grimm screens
tired badge
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dapper imp
Can someone tell me how this offense empo-replica team is
Tested it and I feel that the main issue is speed control but I have zapdos and 3 priority users so I’m not sure
shell stag
I'm trying to build a somewhat balanced team (I'm bad at it bc i usually play offense): https://pokepast.es/0d26098eb1dc2ace
hot heath
https://pokepast.es/b8397443da2d35be
Looking for someone to help me how to improve my team
shell stag
https://pokepast.es/b8397443da2d35be
Looking for someone to help me how to impro...
#1059714627384115290
hot heath
ill send it there thanks
weak vortex
I'm trying to build a somewhat balanced team (I'm bad at it bc i usually play of...
Going for balance?
So firstly I would make primarina alomomola the wish pivot set
Make moltres tera grass for ogerpon give it Uturn > roar
Put boots on tusk
I think meow can be like a zama
I think all out attacking Zama goes fine here
Paired with future sight prevents your team from being too psssive
This needs a steel and shadowball resistance I think kingambit fills that role nicely you can put that over bolt
weak vortex
https://pokepast.es/8d32c2a7f2518e32
Is this a empo team you tried to recreate from a replay or something ? just a bit confused
shell stag
Going for balance?
maybe bulky offense is the better term? I'm not really fluent in pokemon lingo
I wanted a good Meowscarada team in general, im bad at building
weak vortex
Ah okay well in that case meow is boots give it tera fire for burns
Make tusk offensive utility
Great Tusk @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Protosynthesis
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Ground
Jolly Nature
- Headlong Rush
- Ice Spinner
- Knock Off
- Rapid Spin
You can go rocks over knock here since meow has knock
Make bolt calm mind booster tera fairy
Raging Bolt @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
IVs: 20 Atk
Tera Type: Fairy
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Thunderclap
- Dragon Pulse
- Thunderbolt
I think primarina can be ogerpon wellspring
Then just give moltres Uturn but keep tera fairy here
@shell stag
shell stag
https://pokepast.es/99846876ca13f066 like this?
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bitter quail
Alright this isn’t too bad but I would
1. Make pult specs
Dragapult @ Choice...
Ok Ill try that. Thats 3 heavy duty boots?
Sorry ahd ti run yesterday
bitter quail
Any my meow I can leave as is?
weak vortex
Yes it’s fine
bitter quail
Im going to run a few ladders , TY
weak vortex
Np!
bitter quail
Hmm, SHould I use Thunderwave somewher for th faster mons or should I be ok?
weak vortex
This prob needs a bit more speed now that I think about it
weak vortex
choice dragapult?
Pult > bolt
bitter quail
even with choice specs on?
bitter quail
Alright this isn’t too bad but I would
1. Make pult specs
Dragapult @ Choice...
this one
weak vortex
Oh mb
LOL
Oh nah specs fine here
You good
Prim checks some of the fast mons that threaten your team like opposing pult bar band sets, special iron Val (non tera electric), and darkrai.
bitter quail
ok
weak vortex
Zama also helps vs darkrai outspeeds and kills most sets
bitter quail
ohhh ok
dapper imp
Is this a empo team you tried to recreate from a replay or something ? just a bi...
Yes, this team is from empo
I’m trying to recreate it
spiral fable
Yes, this team is from empo
We don’t help with teams made by other people
bitter quail
Ok moved things around and ended up here, thoughts? - https://pokepast.es/633c3497fb7d020a
lost sandal
Ok moved things around and ended up here, thoughts? - https://pokepast.es/633c34...
i love how everything has isha but primarina is shannon
weak vortex
Ok moved things around and ended up here, thoughts? - https://pokepast.es/633c34...
Make prim av
Make tusk offensive utility with boots
Primarina @ Assault Vest
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 80 HP / 252 SpA / 176 Spe
Tera Type: Steel
Modest Nature
- Surf
- Moonblast
- Flip Turn
- Psychic Noise
Great Tusk @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Protosynthesis
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Ground
Jolly Nature
- Headlong Rush
- Ice Spinner
- Knock Off
- Rapid Spin
Give pult tera ghost
ruby crest
Ok moved things around and ended up here, thoughts? - https://pokepast.es/633c34...
Why does Dragapult have mixed evs when this is just specs
lost sandal
Why does Dragapult have mixed evs when this is just specs
you dont understand
!!
uturn needs to be stronk
!
it needs to KO meowscarada
weak vortex
Why does Dragapult have mixed evs when this is just specs
I believe they edited it from mixed pult and forgot to change it
lost sandal
I believe they edited it from mixed pult and forgot to change it
no no no
!
it has to Ko meowscarada
trust
spiral fable
do not
spiral fable
run mixed pult
lost sandal
well said!
ruby crest
Ok moved things around and ended up here, thoughts? - https://pokepast.es/633c34...
also fwiw u dont need a lot of bulk into id zama tho fwiw if u dont plan to go roar (even tho it should be here) u can trade some defense investment for bulk and attack to better pressure dengo and gking for zama
stall mu looks slightly annoying tho ngl
weak vortex
also fwiw u dont need a lot of bulk into id zama tho fwiw if u dont plan to go r...
Dropping gking makes bolt more annoying tho no?
ruby crest
there is no gking tho
ruby crest
actually bolt does farm this team as well
pulsar tundra
Might be wrong, but I feel like mixed hexpult and something like cb trick meow would make breaking go a bit smoother, also why isnt the tusk rocks?
bitter quail
Sorry had a mini emergency, so basically keep pult as is and chocie band meowlady?
I can do mxied pult , what items would use us? AV/Focus Sash?
bitter quail
actually bolt does farm this team as well
Water types are annoying aff especially bolt. I also have no clue what tera to use for each member
n how would I implement trick . I cant lose the other meow moves can I?
bitter quail
Yeah that seems fine
ty
ruby crest
ngl ur prob better off with a gambit here in meow's spot and then like gking > prima spot
bitter quail
You think that would take care of everything? Ok cool Ill actually try those? Regular smogon set?
bitter quail
ngl ur prob better off with a gambit here in meow's spot and then like gking > p...
That sounds good
Move 1
Future Sight
Move 2
Chilly Reception
Move 3
Sludge Bomb
Move 4
Thunder Wave
Toxic
Slack Off
considering 4th move to be toxic
bitter quail
<@145544766933827585> ^
Wow thank youvery much I will go ahead and try this for a big 🙂
bitter quail
<@145544766933827585> ^
WHy choice specs for dragapult so I can use them well?
ruby crest
Strong offensive pivot that can just spam sball late games
dapper imp
made my own team this time
based on slowking g + mola core balance
how does it look?
slender junco
junior harness
well said!
Meowscarada is kinda niche anyways
You gotta watch out for random sucker punches asw
dapper imp
are you talking about my team?
i thought id include it cuz its a speed control that beats ogerpon w
oh
nvm
ebon ember
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bitter trout
rate this: https://pokepast.es/cb5127ad8a821f9c built a team around bombirdier
pastel stump
This is my little brother’s ou team, what can he do to make it a bit better?
dull plume
NDM the OU staple
spiral fable
rate this: https://pokepast.es/cb5127ad8a821f9c built a team around bombirdier
Ok well idk what to tell you other than “bombadier has 0 niche and any team built around it will similarly be unviable”
spiral fable
https://pokepast.es/7bacf77b07e39810
Why are stall only mon blissey and fat/stall only Dozo on a balance/bo team
fiery sapphire
It's been a while so I've decided to come back to gen 9 ou
junior harness
This is my little brother’s ou team, what can he do to make it a bit better?
Bro thinks vgc is OU 💀
If ndm was really allowed in Ou that would be fun
/j
fathom flax
im sudo new to Pokémon i watched the anime when i was a kid to like when i was 15 and my friends got me into random battles and where trying to make teams together too so i watched a couple vids on team building and came up with this most of the move set is just from what i thought was good only gholdengo and scrafty i got theres from smogon can someone tell me some of the does and don'ts for the team or what is in general just bad. https://pokepast.es/e564edc88eb3aa5b
dapper imp
im sudo new to Pokémon i watched the anime when i was a kid to like when i was 1...
Either choose sun or veils
dull plume
Not a tater, but you should just stick to sample teams
fathom flax
Either choose sun or veils
wdym
dapper imp
im sudo new to Pokémon i watched the anime when i was a kid to like when i was 1...
You have torkoal and alolan njnetales
dull plume
Either choose sun or veils
The Torkoal is white smoke
fathom flax
You have torkoal and alolan njnetales
yeah i had swapped abilities when i played my first game i realized that it contradicted each other
dapper imp
Well white smoke torkoal is completely unviable
fathom flax
what should it with then
dapper imp
I recommend going full screens and stack sweepers (like roaring moon, iron moth, kingambit, etc)
dapper imp
Keep putting offensive pressure thst is the idea
fathom flax
ok
dapper imp
Did anyone take a look at my team yet btw?
dapper imp
https://pokepast.es/72822f74cd165491
^
pastel stump
Bro thinks vgc is OU 💀
I’m sorry, I’m not great at pokemon terms, playing because my son and I play!
junior harness
I’m sorry, I’m not great at pokemon terms, playing because my son and I play!
Your family plays mons? I envy that…
pastel stump
My son is playing Roblox on my pc rn
junior harness
Anyways
spiral fable
I’m sorry, I’m not great at pokemon terms, playing because my son and I play!
Love the enthusiasm, genuinely
Unfortunately Solgaleo and Necrozma are banned in OU
pastel stump
Anyways
What would you recommend for a flying type? I changed something out for that cheese stick guy, my son said he’s cool!
spiral fable
Gliscor is always a solid pick
junior harness
What would you recommend for a flying type? I changed something out for that che...
You technically don’t need a flying type for every single team but it’s good.
Oh, we also have corv and moltres
dapper imp
Just a good glue Mon to have defensive and offensively
junior harness
Corv=corviknight
pastel stump
Alr!
dapper imp
Corviknight is better on balance and stall teams
pastel stump
But then that’d be overlapping with Gholdengo..
junior harness
Look at my teams
junior harness
But then that’d be overlapping with Gholdengo..
Type overlap isn’t as bad as they seem to be
spiral fable
Ok hang on we’re giving like 30 bits of separate advice
pastel stump
How’s this?
dapper imp
How’s this?
You should use pokepaste
spiral fable
Celeste, this is for Smogon’s SVOU, just on cartridge right?
dapper imp
It’s easier to read that way
pastel stump
I’m probably gonna switch out Power star for something, but idk what
dapper imp
It’s a website that you paste your team on
junior harness
Only one of them here is an Ou team but I’m just showing off.
Also, it’s taking a while to send
spiral fable
I’m probably gonna switch out Power star for something, but idk what
How competitive do you want this team to be?
pastel stump
Just good enough to compete with my son lol
junior harness
Teach your son how to battle asw
Unless
He’s already a really good player
Or sth
dapper imp
Pink across is a good YouTuber to learn competitive Pokémon basics
spiral fable
Celeste, to be frank this team isn’t very viable, but if it’s just against your son you probably don’t need a very good team either unless he’s cracked
pastel stump
Who do I swap out for indeedee? I need something with trick room!
junior harness
Who do I swap out for indeedee? I need something with trick room!
That’s doubles
pastel stump
That’s what we do
dapper imp
Ursaluna
pastel stump
Doubles
spiral fable
That’s what we do
Ah
dapper imp
Oh
spiral fable
If it’s VGC you should probably ask #comp-general
dapper imp
I don’t play doubles so I can’t help unfortunately
junior harness
You playing singles or doubles? Because TR isn’t something great in singles
spiral fable
This is for Singles
pastel stump
Doubles
junior harness
junior harness
If it’s VGC you should probably ask <#393435165243867150>
I just noticed I’m in the wrong channel
Oops
spiral fable
lol
junior harness
The image finally sent
My internet sucks
But please still take the time to admire the glory of clefable talonflame stall on cart
spiral fable
Yeah but this is for singles and doubles has a wildly different metagame so you’re better off asking #comp-general which has a wider array of people to help
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grave ginkgo
bitter quail
I mashed up a few of the suggestions from this chat prerviously. I somehow wanted to use Blissey but I think I can change the sixth slot to something more beneficial to my team? - https://pokepast.es/8726ed7ebcdb30e7
fiery sapphire
Isn't blissey almost exclusive to fat and stall because of how passive it is?
bitter trout
Aw hail naw
bitter quail
nvm brb
weak vortex
Pretty good but just make tusk boots and wellspring swords dance power whip cudgel and play rough
weak vortex
https://pokepast.es/2e87ed1352ed567d
I think for one sam should be gambit
dapper imp
anything else?
weak vortex
Ye hold on
This definitely needs another water resistance
Pult is the only one which is shaky
Make zapdos tera dragon to not fold to ogerpon
weak vortex
Oh well a good way to do that is like gliscor/alo/garg as a starting template teams like that usually use zama as speed control
dapper imp
oh
weak vortex
Zapdos would be fine too
dapper imp
i mean how would i know that is a good core
weak vortex
Alo checks stuff like gambit for garg and keeps it healthy. Gliscor checks eletrics like zap that alomomola runs away from. Alomomola checks things like ice spinner tusk for glisc and garg.
#comp-general you could get more info here but yeah that’s some sample info
lost sandal
Gl
hello
id appreciate help with mine too hehe, ive been using it in tourneys and its been working to good success (i defeated a 2k player!) but i feel like im a bit weak towards water types/ground types
not sure who to change but im really having fun with this one (id love to use specs val and lokix here)
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bitter quail
For my Moltres what about roost/roar/bravebird/will o wisp , o i can swap will ow isp for uturn?
@weak vortex
weak vortex
no flame turn wisp roost
umbral adder
ruby crest
https://pokepast.es/6c287b01802446bb
this is honestly solid, tho moltres has no real purpose here for an very offensive squad, i advice making h samu sash lead here, and then replace moltres with iron moth
umbral adder
thanks so much. kinda had molt for phasing and fairy resist
for moth should it be sub tb ground?
ruby crest
https://pokepast.es/e2cc63c4eaded34d something like this
tho truthfully im not the biggest fan of latias for how reliant it is to cheese, but i figured its what this team was built around
umbral adder
it kinda was. was just looking for something less common to build around (sick of gterrain teams)
ruby crest
closest other suggestion would be iron crown tbh, but i imagine ur already commited with lati
none the less the team is solid
umbral adder
feel like i am on this team at least. ive never felt like ive had much creativity with teambuilding so i wanted to try something new
umbral adder
thank you so much
just curious how would i deal with rmoon with this team?
currently struggling against it in several games
ruby crest
just curious how would i deal with rmoon with this team?
not letting it have plenty of opportunities in, can use lando to lower dd and what not and some chip from contact into gambit revenge with sucker with tera tho tbf most offense are going to struggle with other promiment offense mons like roaring moon and iron moth
if u feel u want to jab at moon more u can do gleam moth
fiery sapphire
It's been a while so I've decided to come back to gen 9 ou, how is this to start?
weak vortex
https://pokepast.es/dc75c5dedaa86305
Imma head home and take a look
weak vortex
how is this team now?
Really solid ye just make garg rocks tect prob tera fairy for pult shenanigans. Then gliscor can be spikes. I think I like glowking > ace here
Good job
weak vortex
It's been a while so I've decided to come back to gen 9 ou, how is this to start...
Not bad
But I’ll probably fix some sets here
Make tusk the offensive utility variant tera ground or steel preferably. Headlong rush,ice spinner, knock, spin
Make pult specs tera ghost