#[DO NOT USE][ARCHIVED] SV OU Rates

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gentle venture
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nah keep hamurott

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change tusk there is better rockers

dapper imp
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I want to keep band pull though as a speed control + wall breaker

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So it won’t be 100% bootspam

gentle venture
dapper imp
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Ok, I will need to change it to it’s mixed set then

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I was planning to make this team use more offensive pressure to pressure hazards vs Bull

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Bill

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Bulk

dapper imp
gentle venture
gentle venture
dapper imp
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ok time to test my new team

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wish me luck

gentle venture
dapper imp
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ok im seeing success rn

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bootspam was a good idea

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only tested in low ladder so far but i am getting results

dapper imp
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btw

gentle venture
spiral fable
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please take general converstaion to #comp-general

ebon ember
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weak vortex
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Not bad honestly

But I would probably…

  1. Make tusk offensive utility with boots

Great Tusk @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Protosynthesis
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Ground
Jolly Nature

  • Headlong Rush
  • Ice Spinner
  • Knock Off
  • Rapid Spin
  1. I think ace is the odd one out here especially since I think you need an actual ground immunity.

I would suggest moltres here

Moltres @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 248 HP / 248 Def / 12 Spe
Tera Type: Fairy
Bold Nature

  • Flamethrower
  • Will-O-Wisp
  • U-turn
  • Roost
    I hope these changes are helpful
weak vortex
onyx monolith
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onyx monolith
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Been having a good time with it but have gotten to the point where im curious how someone would try actually optimizing it

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Without Volc the team actually does struggle to break a lot and the lack of priority makes it so Im able to lose to set up sweepers pretty often if Im not able to answer them fast enough

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Think a majority of the games loss with this team come from a sub iron moth

lost sandal
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@weak vortex im not enjoying crown on this type of team

weak vortex
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Oh wait go back to Natdex lmao

lost sandal
brazen robin
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Is choice band alomolamola an option to surprise someone

spiral fable
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no

fossil marten
spiral fable
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if you want tips ask in #comp-general

fossil marten
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Ok

ebon ember
lost sandal
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i told you this before

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zaza sweeps

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yeah lol

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generally

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ival/enamorus is a good zam counter

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and it has to burn tera to KO them

gentle venture
# lost sandal https://pokepast.es/4e35572747ad7548 how do i deal with zamazenta on this team?...

zamas 3 slot is always the same iron defense + body press + crunch the 4 move slot is the one that matters if its ıron head / heavy slam tera poison bulk up tusk should be able to deal with it quite easily and sweep afterward if its roar it gets threatened by fairies for example hatterne which is quite good in screens also you could slot a nasty plot recover dengo too since it can't be forced out by whirlwind and can't be encored it doesn't have any defensive counterplay ( same thing applies to hatterne )

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but tbh zama matchup doesnt seem painful to me

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also run tera grass on moth flying is fake grass does the same thing defensively and can muscle its way out of Ting-Lu thanks to the damage bonus on energy ball

lost sandal
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oki

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also how does tusk deal with it

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doesnt it get walled by ID

gentle venture
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dragon pulse on sep is a terrible coverage move you get walled by moth heatran crown glowking etc tera blast ground gives you both offensive and defensive coverage
weavile is more of a balance mon
also mixed val is better since it checks zama which this team lacks

gentle venture
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so you break it eventually once you set up enough bulk ups

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but you have to tera

gentle venture
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its not bad there is just better mons

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it does better in balance

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well you are fine it works in offense teams ı dont play HO but ı feel like this team would appreciate something else instead of weavile

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you can wait and ask for a rater about weavile but ım certain about other points

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both mixed and calm mind set can lure in glowking and soften or outright KO it to open a hole for serp and its quite powerful

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also checks zama

gentle venture
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it just blanks into too many things without tera blast

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you can run it over sub but like serp can force out a lot of things out of the field so it will have plenty of chances to set a sub

narrow cloud
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I forgot to put a spinner on this team lol

wind gyro
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The random lokix is fire

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On a pseudo stall team

narrow cloud
wind gyro
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Didn’t even notice the av alomomola

narrow cloud
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it meant to flipturn and doing a little bit of chip

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then setup future sight with g-slowking then chilly

wind gyro
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I guess you don’t need wish pass if every other mon has recovery

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narrow cloud
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lokix punish dark switch in to future sight

wind gyro
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It just kinda feels out of place

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Like how are you doing damage

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With it gone

narrow cloud
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flipturn, hazards,salt cure, future sight

narrow cloud
wind gyro
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Alr

narrow cloud
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but ya if it dies

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the team collapses

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what do you think the team over all tho

spiral fable
hasty summit
spiral fable
spiral fable
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Not banded or vest mons

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Hyper offense should be stacking sweepers, not breakers or defensive utility

hasty summit
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does the team resemble a balanced team more?

spiral fable
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I would recommend you return for samples now to learn what mons are on what team structures

spiral fable
hasty summit
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never mind

spiral fable
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Not really there’s just some mons that clash with each other

hasty summit
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like who?

spiral fable
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Rillaboom with any eq user

narrow cloud
spiral fable
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And b: this is a poor stall team

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Your special defense core is really weak, and your phys def core ain’t much better

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You’re missing almost every mon that is near mandatory on stall

tender pecan
spiral fable
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Tusk doesn’t belong here, Garg and Gking are extremely iffy, and Lokix is a mid mon at best that should not be on any stall or semi stall team

tender pecan
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also lokix isn't a good sweeper

spiral fable
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Yeah Lokix kinda ass in general since your first impression goes off once then you’re useless till you switch out

tender pecan
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you have sucker punch too ig but yeah

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lokix is like

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emergency speed control/pivoting

spiral fable
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I would scrap this team honestly

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You can use Lokix but it’s definitely more a balance/bulky offense mon

tender pecan
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^

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and again if the goal is to push for a sweep with anything, then its not stall

spiral fable
tender pecan
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stall never attempts to support a wincon

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the wincon is breaking the opposing team down slowly

spiral fable
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Also tera poison Darkrai if your moth somehow dies

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Weavile is ass on hyper offense and serp is pretty iffy

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Also friendly reminder to everyone on this channel that you are not supposed to give rates if you are not experienced in the tier, as giving poor rates is worse than no rates

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Anyways swap Weavile out for something like roaring moon or gouging fire and swap serperior out for iron moth so you don’t get 6-0ed by fairy types

ebon ember
tender pecan
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what, team structure is this

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cause if this is BO there's a noticeable lack of the bulk part of BO

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and generally speaking this just feels like its being torn in a lot of directions

ebon ember
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Should I and who do I replace with glowking?

tender pecan
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glowking is not what you need here

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this team needs an overhaul it lacks a fundamental structure

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I'd drop crown and also enam to start

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and go with something like primarina or hatt

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I'd also make zamazenta its bpress set so you have another sweeper plus a blanket check to physical threats

dapper imp
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Feeling very confident in this team, feel like I have a solid team structure for this hazard stack

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Zam should prob be Tera steel but other than that I think it’s fine

topaz narwhal
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not sure specifically about this gen but historically stall has supported a wincon late game every other past gen

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outside of the older ones which i do not know much about

tender pecan
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This Gen it's not really the case

topaz narwhal
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see: volcarona, dnite, clef, mzor

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yeah just saying blanket statements like that can be misleading

tender pecan
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Not the intent but yeah fair

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I was referring to in this meta

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Shoulda made that more clear tho

lost sandal
spiral fable
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no

lost sandal
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or does it just do its job by resisting body presses

spiral fable
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unless zamazenta started running special defense invest that i didnt know about, you have a strong stab that will boost as you click it

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click it

lost sandal
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true

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also

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what do u think about chesto rest zamazenta

spiral fable
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much better uses for the slot also this isn't the chat to ask this

lost sandal
ebon ember
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grave ginkgo
lost sandal
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any reason

grave ginkgo
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also cuz its a strong webs mon

upbeat anchor
dapper imp
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using ursaluna in general is iffy

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but if you really want to use it id use it in a ho trick room team

tender pecan
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or g terrain

tender pecan
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the support it wants is usually in the form of TR, stuff like hatterene can set that up for you, or Rillaboom to help you offset burn damage

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weak vortex
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I would give zama tera fire too

ebon ember
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To be specific it's supposed to be BO

weak vortex
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Ye it’s still BO dw

ruby crest
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Idt this should be scarf rai here

tender pecan
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maybe expert belt?

ruby crest
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You might prob neeed to make this knock rai since there is no knock user tho switching rai for something else is also possible

ebon ember
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What to switch Rai for

tender pecan
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well if you want a knock user, perhaps deo S?

weak vortex
ruby crest
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Doing that could work tho then an issue resides where ghost becoming annoying to switch into, and the raging bolt mu is also slightly annoying.

weak vortex
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I think they can just drop pult like for probably a kingambit ngl.

ruby crest
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That works

tender pecan
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I think a setup sweeper would be good here since there isn't rly one

weak vortex
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Ye

ruby crest
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This is becoming id zama

weak vortex
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Sd gambit with lefties tera fairy

weak vortex
tender pecan
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would cm prim be good?

weak vortex
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I think av is fine here needs pivots

ruby crest
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Ye

tender pecan
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hm yeah fair especially if you drop pult you'll be left with two pivots if you drop flip turn prim

ebon ember
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Im thinking of dropping corv, but I can't think of anything to do it for.

weak vortex
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I highly recommend you keep it considering in order for av prim to function fully via removal

ebon ember
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Anything to change for ogerpon, as you said it destroyed my core in my team, I had to lower it

weak vortex
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You should be fine into it with tera drag corv and zama

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Which is what I meant by keeping corv

ruby crest
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Stall mu looks slightly annoying and team can use an immediate breaker

tender pecan
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they do have taunt lando and encore val to help out a bit with stall

spiral fable
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taunt lando does nothing gliscor just spams knock

devout sail
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Wait that link doesn’t work

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Thinking about switching the kyreum set maybe idk

hasty summit
spiral fable
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-earthquake user
-grassy terrain

hasty summit
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i think rillaboom would be good for checking ogerpon wellspring

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perhaps gliscor?

devout sail
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Just use earth power

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If you want lando

hasty summit
devout sail
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Nope

hasty summit
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oh

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say less

devout sail
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I had a g terrain team with treads and ran special on that

hasty summit
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im trying my hand at a VoltTurn team

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if lando didn't work out, i was considering either gliscor or roaring moon

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dusky kindle
tacit lantern
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honestly

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no clue

dusky kindle
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Lol prob switch to boots or leftovers then

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Or CB

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Low kick > high jump on rabbit

tacit lantern
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oh fr?

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bet

dusky kindle
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Yeah it hits the same targets and doesn't risk anything

tacit lantern
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im concerned ab my match up into kingambit

dusky kindle
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Yeah I can see that

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Maybe cinderace isn't the right fit

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Tusk could be

weak vortex
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Moltres > ace

dusky kindle
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Ooh yeah

weak vortex
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Tusk > lando

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Imo

tacit lantern
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defog set?

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or just boot spam

weak vortex
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No Defog on molt this gen

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That’s why I like tusk over lando

tacit lantern
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that makes sense

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you reckon proto or boots tusk

weak vortex
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Boots offensive utility

tacit lantern
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wicked ty

weak vortex
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Make darkrai ebelt

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Ngl bolt over prim i could see too

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It’s much more annoying to take down in grassy terrain too

tacit lantern
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ngl i really like the cheese w/ custap but i'll play around with bolt too

weak vortex
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Fs

tacit lantern
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i tested with endure but i struggled against zama

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tbf that was probably more me making mistake piloting the team

weak vortex
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Cm prim is not the easiest to pilot but when you pilot it well it does wonders

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If you keep prim run this

Primarina @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 80 HP / 252 SpA / 176 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
Tera Type: Steel
Modest Nature

  • Calm Mind
  • Surf
  • Moonblast
  • Substitute
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You can run psy noise over sub if you want

tacit lantern
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im assuming sub gets more reliable torrent though right?

weak vortex
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Sub sets up on standard glowking with tera steel

tacit lantern
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yeah that makes sense

weak vortex
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Psy noise is better into fat

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Ye but that’s what I’m seeing I hope this was helpful to you

tacit lantern
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i can see the vision, will keep testing

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tyty

weak vortex
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Np

dapper imp
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tried making a team revolving around ursaluna

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draining kiss should prob be psychic noise but i want primarina to be have more longetivity and still be able to wallbreak

devout sail
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ursaluna is mainly good in trick room

dapper imp
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Can work in g terrain too

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Nullifies chip on ursaluna

hoary nova
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thoughts on talonflame balance?

spiral fable
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talonflame is so bad if its not on stall

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and even on stall its very niche

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also vest bolt isn't very good and your teams defensive core is kinda mid

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you also get 6-0ed by waterpon which kinda sucks

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you seem pretty new to the tier, i would recommend checking out a sample team to learn the metagame first

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you can find them here:

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!gen9ousamples

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azure locust
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https://pokepast.es/353045889b519353
Didnt tested it yet, kinda lost on post dlc
What could be changed? What should be improved? What threats should i consider when making new teams?
Centred on Slither

spiral fable
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test it first

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please do not post teams here if you dont' test them first

grave ginkgo
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tender pecan
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don't use eq Iron treads on a g terrain team

gentle venture
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https://pokepast.es/e1c6a6b80c41b1e9
subtect kyurem is a pain in the ass any advice

I used ogerpon for fast encore knock off and its ability to threaten grounds at first ı just wanted to see how it would do as an offensive spikes setter should ı just drop the HS aspect of this team and change gholdengo for another special attacker, use the usual encore pon ?

lost sandal
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ebon ember
dusky kindle
dusky kindle
ebon ember
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I did ting Lu though

dusky kindle
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?

ebon ember
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Oh well, what Pokémon for offensive

dusky kindle
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On primarina

ebon ember
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Meow prim gliscor?

dusky kindle
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I'm not sure what you're asking

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Consider whirlwind on skarmory also for opposing setup

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Also consider scarf on meowscarada to help vs Dragapult

shell stag
junior harness
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You do realize that sash marsh is an infamous bad set, right?

lost sandal
topaz narwhal
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sir this is sv ou rates

native smelt
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shit wtf

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thought this was natdesx

marble vessel
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weak vortex
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Hi I think you should run a more consistent lead like deo-s over glimmora

  1. Ogerpon doesn’t need Uturn on offense. So I suggest you change the set to swords dance, cudgel, power whip, and play rough to hit dragons like dragonite.

  2. Make roaring moon tera flying and make the set dragon dance, knock off, acrobatics, and earth earthquake.

  3. Scizor isn’t viable let alone its band set. Also this team could use another special attacker and help vs the toxic spikes matchup. So this leads me to recommend iron moth.

Iron Moth @ Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 48 HP / 76 Def / 132 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Fiery Dance
  • Sludge Wave
  • Substitute
  • Psychic
  1. Zama can be tera fire iron defense set with roar.
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With leftovers ^

spiral fable
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well its not usable at all so

ruby crest
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it just got banned

spiral fable
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ban will get implemented soon

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no

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also general mon advice should be asked in #comp-general

devout sail
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Does anyone have any good hazard stack teams I can use

weak vortex
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Try here

devout sail
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ty

weak vortex
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Np

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mighty talon
junior harness
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Because you get completely owned by Tera fire gambit

mighty talon
devout sail
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I originally had prim over gking should I switch back

devout sail
devout sail
lost sandal
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thoughts?

hazy nova
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marble vessel
mighty talon
marble vessel
marble vessel
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Then use the freed up slot to put a Mon that can benefit from hazards. A Mon that can clean a team up easily with the help of hazard chip damage

hazy nova
marble vessel
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Maybe like a gambit or a zama

hazy nova
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marble vessel
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Wait

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Let's fix your skarmory and slowking sets first

hazy nova
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spiral fable
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hstack with two mons that dont have boots is a choice

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your spdef walls are... nonexistent really

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any tera blast ground mon just wipes

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or darkrai

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you have this weird mix of 3 spdef mons yet none of them are really enough

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and then poor skarmory is basically on its own to anchor phys def

hazy nova
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spiral fable
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ting lu is 100% more spdef

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ting lu would help this team a lot

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probably over garg ngl

lost sandal
spiral fable
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where are your hazards dude

lost sandal
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my bad

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anything else?

spiral fable
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this team feels bad for some reason but its 2 am and i cant string a coherent thought together

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dont like your gliscor matchup

lost sandal
lost sandal
spiral fable
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nothing likes to switch in

lost sandal
spiral fable
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you dont gotta ping me for everything

lost sandal
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should i scrap this team and just use another rmt/anything else

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oh

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my mentions are enabled

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sorry

spiral fable
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idk this team feels like kinda solid kinda not you can ladder with it and see how it goes ig

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o yeah drop sub zama run some other 4th move

lost sandal
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heavy slam i presume?

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okay ill try, thanks

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weak vortex
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Hello for the sun team you should make roaring moon dragon dance.

  1. Make torkoal tera flying.

  2. Make liligant tera ghost.

  3. And great tusk bulk up with lefties tera steel.

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For team two you can make gouging fire kyurem yes.

  1. For the stall matchup I think iron crown helps you out a bit I think you should put that over manaphy.

3.make tusk bulk up here as well I’ll probably go Tera poison for toxic immunity and fighting resistance but you could do steel here too.

lost sandal
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also

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is it just me

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or does that look EXACTLy like one of the sun teams

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i have seen on rmt/sample (idrk) but with moon for gouging

weak vortex
lost sandal
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with me rn

weak vortex
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I see

lost sandal
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also

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this one

light agate
weak vortex
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Are you trying to go for bulky offense or balance DC

lost sandal
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but thats just me

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haha

lost sandal
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honestly id like BO more

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but thats just me

weak vortex
lost sandal
weak vortex
light agate
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If it allows you to pass stall it's perfect

weak vortex
lost sandal
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(whether the team is good or not)

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for one thing he was using tera fairy on garg with idefense which i didnt like because of tachyon cutter

weak vortex
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This team would definitely need something for ogerpon

lost sandal
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what i generally do for waterpon is go zamazenta or dragapult uturn + draco meteor or straight up meteor after chip

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rocks

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i think ill build another one

weak vortex
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Yeah maybe build one that’s your own and see go from there

lost sandal
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(its supposed to be type of bulky offence)

light agate
lost sandal
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im not a huge fan of the lack of spatk in this team

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but i suppose its okay

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with kyurem and pult

light agate
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Or maybe this is the one I need

mighty talon
spiral fable
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You seem to be new to the tier, so I would recommend laddering with the sample teams first, to learn the tier and the common sets used

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brisk cedar
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If you want to run an annoying dd pult set like that, run jolly, dance, darts, hex, and twave

lost sandal
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something like this maybe

ebon ember
lost sandal
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uh

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weak to fairy

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so like a

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ival fricks u up if darkrai takes chip

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dont mind me tho

ebon ember
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Tera

lost sandal
ebon ember
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Steel fairy poison tera

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Ghold has enough bulk to revenge kill but still

lost sandal
hasty summit
light agate
lost sandal
spiral fable
hasty summit
light agate
spiral fable
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I would recommend swapping out for moth to shore up your fairy mu

ebon ember
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Yeah my thought

spiral fable
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O wait ghold is also here tf

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Yeah nah drop ghold

ebon ember
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Ok

spiral fable
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Drop ghold drop Waterpon swap on moth and then you can pick another sweeper

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(Scale shot Dnite is pretty cool)

ebon ember
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I might use gouging then change for roaring moon?

lost sandal
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i mean

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mostly used in ND

ebon ember
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It's fine

spiral fable
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Or denial

spiral fable
lost sandal
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also clod mind helping me out

ebon ember
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Ill use until ban is implemented ( tommorow)

spiral fable
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But in the long term you can swap gambit to the tera dark black glasses set once gouging’s ban is implemented

light agate
spiral fable
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No it’s worse what is Manaphy doing here

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Tusk should be bulk up

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Swap out Manaphy for iron moth

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Manaphy is ass outside of webs because it is the biggest Waterpon fodder you can find

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I don’t know why you keep changing the team outside of what I suggest

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But you do you ig

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I gave you what to change it’s up to you to listen or not

brave turtle
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also innit gouging about to get banned

spiral fable
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Yes

light agate
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Or maybe there's something I skipped for Iron Moth

spiral fable
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Like I said, I already gave you all the changes to make

mint mauve
light agate
tropic ice
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You also probably want setup valiant over mixed

ebon ember
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this is ok, I'd change waterpon to swords dance tho

mystic beacon
ashen dove
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First volcarona, now gouging fire, my set-up spam team is falling apart...sad_dawn
Currently using raging bolt and iron moth as replacement, but it's not the same...
If you got better mons for the role pls lemme know 🙏

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(PS: Hat holds leftovers not helmet, last night i saw my little brother add mousehold to his team for the first time and i just HAD TO let him know...)

tender pecan
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That last part is hilarious

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Oh and also

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!pokepaste

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tender pecan
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Use dat

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Regardless, it's not bad, there's a lot of booster mons who are vulnerable to phasing tho, I'd maybe swap roaring or raging for dnite

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Other than that, this is pretty standard

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could maybe go protect for sr on gliscor and run sr set on garg but i enjoy curse

ashen dove
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So 50/50

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i felt so cool doing that

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weak vortex
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Not bad honestly but make tusk boots and tera steel with boots offensive utility

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Great Tusk @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Protosynthesis
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Ground
Jolly Nature

  • Headlong Rush
  • Ice Spinner
  • Knock Off
  • Rapid Spin
gentle venture
lost sandal
weak vortex
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Sorry been busy I get to what I can

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Hold on

weak vortex
# gentle venture https://pokepast.es/e1c6a6b80c41b1e9 subtect kyurem is a pain in the ass any ad...

Ok yeah there is a few changes here I highly suggest.

  1. Drop tealpon it’s really not that great of a Mon unlike wellspring it gets stuffed by corv and skarm let alone the pivot set. Make the pon cudgel, swords dance, play rough and power whip. Play rough is good for kyurem.

Just change this to wellspring with swords dance.

  1. Run skarm over corvinight and use that for spikes.

  2. Go defensive rocks tusk > ting Lu.

  3. Make zama iron defense press.

Ghold is probly fine here.

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Ghost are actually kinda annoying here

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Gambit > ghold imo

lost sandal
gentle venture
weak vortex
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Gotcha try that if anything

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If you still have trouble with kyu I’ll probably recommend dropping Zama for pult with infiltrator

wraith oriole
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Can anyone here help with my ou team?

tropic ice
wraith oriole
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oh. and if its not finished since my idea is still pending. If you want to, I can do my own research and see what partners are the best for my team.

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@tropic ice

tropic ice
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Hey, nice buzzwole, where did you get an UB in SV???

Dude this team isn’t even legal, let alone even usable, mud slap says a lot and spore is banned.

strong tundra
weak vortex
# strong tundra https://pokepast.es/d98d91020323404d Rate pls

Hello this team is kinda all over the place although most of the mons here are ou viable (bar houndstone) with the right sets these mons seem like they were put together without much thought. This leads me to suggest samples so you have an understanding of what goes together.

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!gen9ousamples

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wraith oriole
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@weak vortex what about my team?

spiral fable
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we can see your team

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wildfire will get to it when they have the time

wraith oriole
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okay. sorry

weak vortex
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Ye hold on

weak vortex
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But I feel offensive utility tusk > gliscor

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Will be better

wraith oriole
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I just feel like my bulky offense team isnt really bulky enough without it.

weak vortex
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Nah it’s definitely still bulky offense

wraith oriole
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Still just trying to adjust and practice in showdown. The closest I've ever got to a good team was a speedy arcogre team

strong tundra
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@weak vortex
Could you tell me a great team in the OU format? (The best team)

wraith oriole
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which is also bulky offensive with the same premise

weak vortex
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Gliscor is more of a balance Mon but it could fit on weird BO teams

spiral fable
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the wonder of comp pokemon (for most of the time) is that there are multiple viable pokemon and teams

weak vortex
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Also @wraith oriole make ghold offensive balloon

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Bulky offense is mons that can take hits and deal damage with pivots on the team

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Tusk and prim a good examples of mons that can tank and deal significant damage back

wraith oriole
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okay. and I can use either dark or dnite as sweepers just as long as the rest of the team can do their part

spiral fable
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darkrai is not a ssweeper with scarf

weak vortex
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Yeah the goal would be to set dnite up to win

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Also ngl you could even go lando > gliscor

wraith oriole
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@spiral fable What do you mean?

weak vortex
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Provides another pivot

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Scarf darkrai is a cleaner

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Not a sweeper

spiral fable
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darkrai is not sweeping when it can only click one move at a time

wraith oriole
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I guess that can work as well

weak vortex
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But scarf is fine here

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You need speed control

wraith oriole
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I just like scarf kyogre back in ubers and thought darkari was a nice alternative without having double dragons

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unless specs pult is still better

weak vortex
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Ah alright well try those changes

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I’m here if anything

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Gl

wraith oriole
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okay. I think its time for me to start experimenting now. thanks for the help!

weak vortex
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Np

hasty dune
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The only Pokemon I was really unsure about was the Landorus, as I already have 3 pivots at this point

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I knew my team needed a ground/flying type though, so I included it for its typing (+ intimidate)

lost sandal
spiral fable
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we only rate one team at a time

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please only post one

lost sandal
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weak vortex
lost sandal
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:O

weak vortex
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Fits in certain balance/Bo squads but Idt it fits here

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Not too bad but yeah I would change some stuff

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Like giving val a steel or ghost tera type and Ice punch > s break

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Give ogerpon play rough > knock

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I think serp could be something else ngl

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Nah spbreak is terrible ice punch at least deletes lando

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Oh I was thinking of making serp another knock Mon mb

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Ok how about this lead deos > glim

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Oh wrong deo

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Deoxys-Speed @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Ghost
Timid Nature

  • Stealth Rock
  • Spikes
  • Taunt
  • Psycho Boost
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@sly mauve

Iron Valiant @ Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Steel
Jolly Nature

  • Swords Dance
  • Knock Off
  • Close Combat
  • Encore
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This works too

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This is standard swords dance ival

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That’s fine try it out

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Yeah glim can potentially help vs opposing toxic spikes so it helps in some matchups. Leads can come down to preference i personally find glim annoying to use sometimes haha.

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Alr gl

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You too

grave ginkgo
tender pecan
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chandelure is certainly a choice

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this is webs HO with some interesting choices ngl

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I'd maybe make chandelure booster spa Iron moth

also scarf moon is, also certainly a choice

grave ginkgo
tender pecan
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setting up tends to be the point of running webs 😭

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you have booster val that can outspeed pult too

grave ginkgo
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i forgot that valiant can be a pult counter too lol

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should I change moon's set into dd acrobatics

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and chandelure's set be calm mind+leftovers?

tender pecan
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you can try chandelure but yeah if you do I'd make it be set up

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its special attack is the biggest selling point afterall

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and lefites does help with your serviceable bulk to proc flame body more

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just be careful le kingambit

ebon ember
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Any help

weak vortex
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Thunder wave > toxic on glowking you can spread paralysis to make kyu have easier time clicking sub

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Give pult thunder wave too imo

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I think you can make bolt boots 4 attacks Zama so you have a Mon that can actively abuse future sight

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Close combat, stone edge, heavy slam and crunch

lost sandal
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https://pokepast.es/8f5b560dc6c7bbaf
since i just peaked 1500 (my goal for a long time after I tilted after hitting 1487), i wanna try out new teams/archetypes such as this bulky hstack team

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lmk how this is

lost sandal
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waterpon could be issue

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sun MU perhaps

lost sandal
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maybe i could go water absorb clod for gliscor but idk yall lmk

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to help waterpon MU

spiral fable
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do not

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water absorb clod is so bad

shell stag
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Used to ladder with it a couple months ago and recently decided to play mons again

spiral fable
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if your team is outdated by months you should really make a new one

shell stag
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mind looking in your builder for a solid HO and a nice offensive/balance team?

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nvm. i can do it

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sorry. i was being lazy

spiral fable
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please dont use ceruledge you have better options

shell stag
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what would you recommend?

spiral fable
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dragonite, zamazenta, iron moth, raging bolt, iron cronw if you want to get funky, etc

shell stag
spiral fable
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we only rate one team

shell stag
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i'll try moth thanks

shell stag
spiral fable
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well preferably you would use the team that we rated

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for at least a little bit

shell stag
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ill come back after 10 games

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thanks for the help

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Maybe gambit over scissor But I'm thinking

shell moth
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also is this single or double i'm new

dull plume
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That looks more like doubles but regardless it’s illegal or unviable

ebon ember
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I wouldn't use the team

dull plume
light agate
shell moth
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mb guys

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https://pokepast.es/bf961cccb0a3f314 need options to in place of walking wake since I dont rlly need another sweeper (it just feels bad and I cant find anything I like in the slot (I tired shell smash drednaw and am not a fan))

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looking for a bit more electric coverage maybe

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idk

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asks for help gives none

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thank u for the ping pigbeef

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very useful

spiral fable
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While his advice was a bit vague, he is right that your moveset and pokemon are poor

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# pliant raptor https://pokepast.es/bf961cccb0a3f314 need options to in place of walking wake si...

Hi,
At a glance, you appear 6-0d by raging bolt. To fix this you should switch your corviknight for a treads, can slap eject button on their to help w momentum.
Barraskewda should be adamant, and you're better off w liquidation/flip turn/aqua jet/cc
You also have a jolly gambit without max speed which is nonsensical. If you aren't going to go max speed you should go adamant so you aren't giving up attack for no reason. Or just make it an overqwil to have another swift swimmer but keep ghost resist
You have flamethrower on wake under rain. This is a wasted moveslof
If you want a mon like zapdos that can click roost/thunder/hurricane you can go w Dragonite because it also acts as a waterpon switchin. Or if you want a stronger electric type instead of a bird go w bolt
I'm on my.ohone so I can't give you an updated paste, but I hope this input helps for your next attempt. Good luck and have fun

spiral fable
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in general, don't run wake on rain

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it just doesnt have the same effeicnecy as it does on sun, due to loss of protosynth, so you're better off running another specail attacker like raging bolt

fierce basin
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Or make the zapdos a raging bolt

weak vortex
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Rain is kinda solved tbh it has mandatory slots that removing some mons make it much worse

fierce basin
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Wasn't sure if wake was for sun matchup since it's eved for speed booster

spiral fable
fierce basin
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But he prob just has the EVs like that from yoinking it off the strategy dex

pliant raptor
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i was just thowing things in that slot

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to see how they felt

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weak vortex
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I feel like ghold could be something else like raging bolt (also provides another water resistance which this team needs)

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You need speed control so probably make darkrai scarf

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weak vortex
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Ye

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Happy laddering

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weak vortex
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Np

lost sandal
spiral fable
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no but i dont have time to give a full rate

lost sandal
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oh

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okay

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well have a good day i suppose

lost sandal
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the older one seems more traditional while the new one seems a bit niche

lost sandal
ebon ember
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Any help

lost sandal
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yw

hazy nova
tender pecan
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Don't run knock on waterpon

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Make great tusk bulk up, and please do not run thief scizor

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You have knock off there is no reason to run thief

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south raptor
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feels outdated

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gouging fire also got put in uber

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since im here ill send a few other teams these two teams i use the most

merry plover
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tera ghost on treads

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nvm ribombee is

weak vortex
weak vortex
ebon ember
south raptor
ebon ember
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Any help? ( Sorry for asking again)

weak vortex
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Ok a bit busy but I’ll get to them when I can

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Classic booster speed is always good

dapper imp
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can someone tell me how my team is?

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initially tried to build around comfey but that is pretty much a lost cause (C in viability rankings lol) so pivoted to tinkaton bulky offense

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and yes ik it has a striking resemblance to one of the sample teams

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https://pokepast.es/373329cd2fae1371 can someone rate my team or give me some insight, i made it recently and it brought me to 1300+ (im new to the game) i usually lead samu because of lando and glimm reasons iron moth tera fly hurricane is to check ogerpon and other annoying threats which i dont have a set way to counter everything is pretty standard

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Ev spread lando because people dont normally expect lead lando to OHKO.

dapper imp
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run glimmora if youre riunning hazard stack ho

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of if going veils switch one of your hazard setters with a sweeper

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idk why youre using hurricane on ogerpon if sludge wave checks it sufficiently

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give it sub + tera blast/psychic/energy ball/dazzling gleam instead

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just stack your team with sweepers and make it proper ho

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like roaring moon

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Roaring Moon @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Flying
Jolly Nature

  • Dragon Dance
  • Knock Off
  • Acrobatics
  • Earthquake
round kernel
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gotchu

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Idk who to replace tho

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Imma replace dragpult

dapper imp
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just stack sweepers

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look at the sample teams and viability rnakings to see what is viable

round kernel
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Imma give iron moth tera blast psychic

dapper imp
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give it tera ghost if youre giving it psychic

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to counter extreme speed

round kernel
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I meant

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The tera is psychic

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I wasnt giving it the move psychic

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Hurricane was my

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Check into zamazenta

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it one hits it

dapper imp
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use iron valiant to check zamazenta

round kernel
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I swapped dragapult for roaring moon

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Dont quite know who else should go

dapper imp
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ive never seen iron moth run hurricane in any serious game

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just stack sweepers if running ho ngl

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ho is pretty simple to build compared to other teamstyles

round kernel
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Ive always tried to make a somewhat balance team

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Always leads back into

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Ho

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I think ho is too punishing if u make a mistake

dapper imp
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The goal is to overwhelm your enemy with sheer offensive power

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Just use a sample team to get used to team styles

round kernel
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k

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https://pokepast.es/55c2fa34878b90b1

I’m trying to build SD Val, I think SD is a really cool set and want to make it work, any ideas? Because my brain automatically turned this into dark spam, not good at all. The Val set is kinda filler but Ice punch is good for lando and dnite

weak vortex
junior harness
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Oh good

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Thanks

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Anyways I need to find alternatives to all these dark mons

weak vortex
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Make tusk bulk up, head long rush, spinner , spin

ruby vale
weak vortex
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Give roaring moons eq > taunt

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Make darkrai ebelt

junior harness
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Oh boy my stall MU boutta go bye bye

weak vortex
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Oh yeah you can keep taunt I forgot just watch out vs gambit

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Oh you got lowkick

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Make it Tera ghost tho

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@junior harness

junior harness
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K

weak vortex
dapper imp
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How’s my team anyone?

ruby vale
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also would it be bulky nasty plot or straight offense

dapper imp
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Prob whatever you feel like tbh

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Depends on your team structure

weak vortex
weak vortex
dapper imp
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Don’t I have hazard removal tho

weak vortex
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hyper offense doesn’t run removal

dapper imp
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And isn’t tinkaton A- in viability

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Glimmora can be used

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But it’s a suicide lead

junior harness
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It’s a great check to darkrai and special val

dapper imp
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Yea that’s what I intend it to do

junior harness
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And roaring moon if they don’t have eq

dapper imp
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Aren’t the teams that have Tink in samples offense/bo?

spiral fable
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yo imma be brutally honest

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this looks like you took ctc's team and swapped around a few mons

dapper imp
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Well

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Ima just use a sample team then if I wanna play to win

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Cuz looks like teambuilding is too much work rn

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I was trying to build to have good teams and understand the meta but I was also kinda building to have fun

spiral fable
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i mean when you build a team that close to a sample team

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you might as well just

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run the sample

dapper imp
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Mhm

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Ok

spiral fable
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like literlaly 5/6 mons overlap

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also i would say ctcs team leans more balacne than bo but hey if he wants to call it bo he made it

dapper imp
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Who is ctc btw?

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first time building a team on my own. how'd i do? I'll be honest, it was kinda smacked together so a lot of it is stuff i found by googling "what synergizes with X?"

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dapper imp
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sinistcha only fits in bulky/balance teams

sly mauve
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oh and i know i should probably replace fling with something else. i was gonna try life orb fling for some fun gimmicks but its inconsistent

dapper imp
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which this team does not look like

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sand is mid this gen

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i recommend uu if you wanna try sand where excadrill is the best mon

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and tyranitar is very good

sly mauve
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good to know! are there any resources for building better teams? i've been watching showdown videos but the lingo is confusing to me and i get the sense that there's a lot of unspoken rules that i'm not picking up on

dull plume
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Sample Teams

dapper imp
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i recommend pinkhercross

sly mauve
dapper imp
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alot of his videos are a good start

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also look at viability rankings

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to see what is good in the current meta

sly mauve
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thanks again! i appreciate it.

dapper imp
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good start

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glad you are willing to learn

sly mauve
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yea!

winged gate
tender pecan
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That's the beauty of it

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Definitely not on sand but it does fit on stuff like HO

spiral fable
# winged gate https://pokepast.es/8fccf636d92ee1a3 Thoughts?

this team is all over the place, you have banded pult which fits on more bo/balance, but also dirge which isn't very good in general but would usually feature on balance/stall, then power herb glimm which is only seen on webs ho/rare spikes ho

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pick a style and dedicate to it

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if you don't know what these team styles are, you can check them out at the samples

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!gen9ousamples

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ebon ember
lost sandal
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rocky helmet glimmora, protect scarf meow, gliscor expert belt and fling life orb protect gambit

lost sandal
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lmk thoughts

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lost sandal
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issue could be ice types

tender pecan
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Sinistcha has been used on HO before, so it is by no means limited to bulky teams

lost sandal
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storm's team for example

tender pecan
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Again not the team lmfao

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The team has a lot of issues but those were all mostly addressed by all of you

lost sandal
ruby crest
lost sandal
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in a metagame filled with rai, ival, pult zamazenta, this team comes no where close

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to matching their speed

ruby crest
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yeah lakc of speed control is rough

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no knock also somewhat hurts, and team loads poorly against rai amongst other things

lost sandal
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yeah, i guess proto speed tusk is okay for that but you cant consistently threaten fast mons with it

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its hit or miss

ruby crest
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im not a fan of tusk here as much while it providing hazard control is nice its not doing much that the other mons dont already cover

lost sandal
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i see

ruby crest
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tho tbh u do have twave gking which does help out fwiw even tho reliably dealing with some of these mons are annoyin

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my first suggestion would be one replace tusk with tinkaton, gives u a lot of important role compression, a knocker, huge disruptor, checks to a bunch of threats like darkrai, and to some extent pult and iron valiant, tho doing so requires some type of hazard control for kyurem which is why we will do cinderace > woger still maitnains that breaker pivot but provides hazard control

lost sandal
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thanks

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what tink set should i run

ruby crest
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also u can make tinka ur rocker which lets u do gknot on lando-t which can be nice to hit dozos

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also im ngl but i think u should consider going sub kyurem here or at least mixed boots

lost sandal
ruby crest
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u already have twave on gking dont think u need multiple t wave users

lost sandal
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okay fair enuf, but if i do run grass knot on lando, should i run offensive landorus

ruby crest
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yeah i was about to suggest if you even want you could honestly consider making this scarf lando

lost sandal
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tera water lando-t *

ruby crest
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tho doing so does make zama somewhat more annoying

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if u go scarf lando then make this sub kyurem

lost sandal
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subtect?

ruby crest
lost sandal
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ngl i find that one reallyyyyy boring

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is there some other kyurem set i could run for it

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or is it required for this team

ruby crest
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it helps better in this case if u go sub lando cause next best thing would be boots spa which im not a fan of these days

lost sandal
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okay, thank you so much for your help

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i appreciate it a lot

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especially that you replied considering your name haha

ruby crest
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while sub yeh is boring its really good rn and fits well in this team

lost sandal
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thanks

fierce basin
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He likes kyurem do not fear

ruby crest
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but both versions are good and have their ups and downs mess around with both and see which one u prefer

ruby crest
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dull plume
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Kyurem is a good boi

lost sandal
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don't ban him! i need one of these dragon dancers in my life or ill switch to dnite spam grr

lost sandal
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@ruby crest also, is it necessary to run rocks when im running court change alr

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i could swap it for twave coverage or playruff

lost sandal
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okay why does this team feel so hard to play

ruby crest
lost sandal
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i see

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also

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why does this team feel so hard to pilot

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or is it just a me issue

ruby crest
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I don’t blame you

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ebon ember
weak vortex
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Otherwise it seems p fine

vital palm
sly mauve
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how we feeling abt this

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Also @sly mauve

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dapper imp
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first time making an offense team in a while, can someone please rate so i can improve

ashen dove
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If my opponent has reflect up and i use psyshock, will my opponent take half damage?

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Like, it's a special atk, so it shouldn't be affected by reflect, but it also calcs dmg on phys def, so maybe it should...?

lost sandal
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besides moltres

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also

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why run molt

dapper imp
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Molt is a defensive switch in that fills a defensive glue in my team tbh

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Kingambit appreciates the fire switch in while the others appreciate the fairy resist and being able to burn physical attackers

lost sandal
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just use glowking

dapper imp
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I thought about glow king

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But then my team has no ground switch ins

lost sandal
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literally landorus

dapper imp
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Landorous can’t switch into every attack tho

lost sandal
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why not

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its immune

dapper imp
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I need something with longetivity

lost sandal
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glowking!

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also this might just be bias

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i hate moltres

dapper imp
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Moltres works on offense too

lost sandal
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u could run BU tusk too

dapper imp
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According to the smogon page at least

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Hmm

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As a sweeper?

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Cuz I’m mainly using it as offensive utility

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To support molt and kyurem

lost sandal
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it still has utility

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in offensive bu

dapper imp
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With booster energy?

lost sandal
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yeah

dapper imp
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Ik offensive bu uses that

lost sandal
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then why ask

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also use WoW on moltres

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for roar

dapper imp
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WoW?

lost sandal
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will o wisp

dapper imp
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Oh

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I thought roar so I won’t be troubled by setup seeepers

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Wisp and work tho

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Unless your intention is to set up with it

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Otherwise it's not good

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Or use AV

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But yeah also molt is kinda weird here and I'd made tusk a bulk up set

dapper imp
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Will at iron crown work?

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Av

lost sandal
dapper imp
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Thought about it but then most of my team is weak to ground

lost sandal
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its leaning towards balance rn

dapper imp
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I’ll try bu tusk then

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Doesn’t balance hsve more defense?

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I only have one defensive Mon in my team

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lost sandal
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i have no rocks

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but i suppose cinder's court change should cover that

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wnted to use zama kyu in a team