[DO NOT USE][ARCHIVED] SV OU Rates

[ruby crest]

https://pokepast.es/cf78780a52e379ac is the team with changes serp wants some spa investment otherwise even with +2 from contrary u will hit like nothing and u dont need all that hp, gave gliscor enough speed for modest volcanion and the occasional polteageist in psyspam made it tera water as well, change skarm tera for dragon which helps it take on a bunch of stuff in +2 that can normally pressure it plenty of resistances that wouldve been super effective otherwise,

also on a side note u can invest some speed on pex to speed creep hat

i just realized this is sub cm raging bolt hmm

having thunder clap as ur only elec stab is honestly risky i def suggest tbolt > sub

[cloud blade]

Its ev’d to outspeed most glisc, and then your sub cannot be broken by 2 knock offs

[ruby crest]

seems useful tho

[cloud blade]

Its fun

Ye

[ruby crest]

u do nothing for gliscor

gliscor can just sit comfortably

and only way u do stand a chance is if u havent burned tera

[cloud blade]

I just sub and then cm

[ruby crest]

and u have a skarm for gliscor

and a weavile

[cloud blade]

Fair

[ruby crest]

and a serp

ur mu against gliscor is fine

[cloud blade]

Hmm

[ruby crest]

just click buttons late game and profit

plus being cucked by birds knowing ur only elec move is tclap sucks

[cloud blade]

Good point

I lose to any fairy type with a status move

[ruby crest]

but yeh do tbolt > sub and the team is solid can retweak bolt spread then if ur not sub

this is a solid build something that i might use

[sly mauve]

actually decided to modify this team to make it more of a balanced/BO/offense team

https://pokepast.es/71ec9be4946bfef3

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[static trout]

Tried it out and it feels good. opted to swap thunder punch on meow for u-turn

lack of priority could be troublesome though

maybe sucker on meow too over knock? idk

[sly mauve]

actually I am using a sample sun team rn and it's solid, might modify it later to make it more original to me tho

[spiral fable]

imma be honest if you post the modified sun team here for a rate the only thing we're going to say is "go back to the sample"

[sly mauve]

well shit

[azure pecan]

https://pokepast.es/27a71a325c7f18ef thoughts?

first draft, not a great builder

i was contemplating sub hex pult in meows spot? maybe w wisp over taunt on heatran?

[cloud blade]

Drop ice beam for blizzard, pick a new tera type on gking, make tusk a booster speed rocks rapid spin knock headlong set, and then drop boots on rotom for lefties, drop heatran for skarm (spikes idef press) or glisc (you want 2 flying immunities)

[knotty cargo]

https://pokepast.es/9c704138bcae1593 tried to make a team revolving around meowscarada + kingambit, what do we think

[flat quest]

i tried to make a team for this format js there anything i can change to make it better https://pokepast.es/6b98b8951fdd5187

[azure pecan]

https://pokepast.es/4f2b0d71861c98dd

hows this?

wasnt sure what tera to make king

[cloud blade]

water

or grass

[cloud blade]

this looks

way more playable

rotom is a bit dubious tho

maybe drop it for like

a volc

and make gking min speed

and drop the spdef on skarm

and the defense

for enough speed to hit 201

then put the rest back in defense

[azure pecan]

rotom checked a lot of boxes for me but its like not mandatory for sure

volt switcher + ground immune is rlly nice but i have another ground immune now anyways

u think volcs better than the extra utility?

[upper maple]

Reposting because i want to ask how my HO matchup is

https://pokepast.es/8faa008ecd3e94c2

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[azure pecan]

https://pokepast.es/791bf55311769dd4

heres where im at so far, sun matchup v bad

[ruby crest]

Ho mu should be fine unless there’s something ur struggling with

[ruby crest]

yeh sun mu is going to be rough regardless even if u where to do something like gliscor > tusk, but even then doubt that will improve by much

you can also try pult > kyurem tho u also then lose immediate breaking power

[azure pecan]

im like 0-4 rn it feels reaaaaally bad

i just cant build in this gen idk why

[ruby crest]

building is rough tho fwiw this team isnt bad, volc is a bit random ngl but even then this aint bad

most teams are going to be weak to something you realistically wont be able to cover everything

[azure pecan]

volc was a suggestion from here, that slot used to be a washtom

i like it there though ur right that it feels a bit random

[azure pecan]

its just been weak to something on every team ive played against lol

hatt, sun, volc

i could make glowking av but then im v low on pivots

plus low key i doubt av glowking even beats volc and hatt

[ruby crest]

na gking set is fine tho do sludge bomb > flame and toxic > twave sludge bomb def helps pressure hatt right away and fish for poison while toxic can put a lot of stuff in a timer especially volc

then u can do spdef gliscor > tusk and then something else > volc

[azure pecan]

i lost to sub volc earlier, is that a set that exists or just like some experiment

bc that specifically cooked me way harder than the rest

[ruby crest]

its used here and there

volc is a mon that can run stuff to beat certain mu but at the same time lose to other mu

[azure pecan]

yeah im playing around w a bulky tera ground build rn

farms the new dinos running around

[ruby crest]

you could also do tera dragon

[azure pecan]

on volc?

[ruby crest]

Ye

provides useful resistance and good at punishing dragons

[azure pecan]

its an interesting set fs

im assuming u build it bulky

[ruby crest]

you can yeh

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/d8e13df4f6aa747f balance team with some of my favourite mons, it feels pretty solid so far but im just wondering if theres anything glaringly obvious that im missing

[fallow kettle]

gets rolled by tera ground kyurem

[sly mauve]

cant i just tera widebody hellcat

[broken bronze]

https://pokepast.es/7cee951d4c6b8dc2 team i made for doubles (If that is a different thread i am sorry)

[sly mauve]

theres a doubles ou thread

[random wolf]

#1059655497587888158 For Smogon Doubles, #1059704283072831499 for VGC

[broken bronze]

k

[thin gorge]

https://pokepast.es/d9b9e8790edd587d can someone help me tweak and better my team?

[viral sable]

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[upper maple]

No ground type

[spiral fable]

You have very unreliable hazard removal, keldeo really isn’t that good, this team struggles hard against boulder which basically 6-0s, no hazard setter

[brisk cedar]

https://pokepast.es/5fffd43b228bf071

I need a water resist that isn't rocks weak without recovery

[forest magnet]

toxapex

[brisk cedar]

pex over what

[forest magnet]

prob skarm

[ruby crest]

Na if anything over Luna

But this is semi tr

[forest magnet]

ya lol

i wasn't sure what to replace bc it seems u wanna keep tr

[brisk cedar]

Yeah I could nuke luna and make glowking normal

[ruby crest]

would be better me thinks yeh

This is also just miniks sample with Luna > pult

[knotty cargo]

https://pokepast.es/9c704138bcae1593 tried to make a team revolving around meowscarada + kingambit, what do we think

[forest magnet]

u don't have immediate power

[knotty cargo]

How do I fix that

[forest magnet]

lemme get u some changes

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/b3b7b706f8ee727c

swapped val for scarf latios, should give good power + speed, and pairs well w meow and tusk. made your glowking max spd, just the standard set, made ur tusk more offensive to remove easier vs dengo and swapped iron boulder for volc for utility (flamebody + another fairy resist) and made gambit bulky for a good pult/dengo check.

[knotty cargo]

Sick, ty

[forest magnet]

np

tera eletric tusk for zapdos and torn-t

[uneven umbra]

how good is this for gen9 ou

[ruby crest]

Use pokepaste

[uneven umbra]

im on mobile

[brisk cedar]

Export to pokepaste button at the bottom

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[ruby crest]

U can still access it on it yeh

[uneven umbra]

ok

https://pokepast.es/2d6914ba0733e3c7

@ruby crest

[ruby crest]

Yeah so Lycan dusk and Sandy shocks are honestly bad rn in ou, amoon is also in a bad spot as well with gliscor being so prevelant in a lot of balance teams also the other mons are alright but also don’t really fit together outside of the dozo and Corv core

[uneven umbra]

what would be some good mons with dozo corv core

[brisk cedar]

Dondozo needs a knock off absorber, Gliscor is the best so add gliscor. Clefable for good measure doesn't hurt either.

[uneven umbra]

is there a good gliscor set

[brisk cedar]

sample set is good

[uneven umbra]

how about this

https://pokepast.es/ae0ab2874fa38a93

[viral sable]

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[brisk cedar]

https://pokepast.es/21a198f018060021

I'm not a stall player so I'll let someone else finish this up, dragonite should be replaced and tera types need tweaking but other than that it should be good

[charred bridge]

hey, could anyone please help me out with making my team a little less water-weak? I've been using this sand BO and it's been super fun and quite successful on ladder, but I've noticed that I struggle really hard against Keldeo / Waterpon. Anyone have any suggestions? I'm considering swapping out either Hatt or Reun for something to help my water MU since they both fill similar roles, but I don't super love having to lose the utility from one of their abilities so I wanted to get some other people's thoughts on it. Thanks in advance!!

Team: https://pokepast.es/d1c1b3ac992f572c

(also, yes ik that ttar set looks goofy but just trust me those evs are based on a ton of various calcs I ran against the tiers' common threats and it works surprisingly well for this team)

[ocean pumice]

what about volcanion over hatt?

[charred bridge]

that could work, ty, any set in particular you'd reccomend? I don't use volcanion often so idk how to slot it in easily. and do you think the lack of fairy coverage / paralysis support would be a problem?

[ocean pumice]

hdb 3a

eruption flamethrower ep taunt

and not rlly

[cloud blade]

Reun needs to go ngl, i reccomend a lefties boldghold here, and then switch skarm for a corv with same set style, but with defog over spikes, and then hat> gliscor with spikes

Thats just how i felt

Feel free to ignore this is u already made other changes or dislike these ones

Bold ghold just absolutely shreds waterpon and friends

And fits with your hazards build u already have

[charred bridge]

I'll try it but if it doesn't work out for me I'll save a copy of the current team, either way tysm tho!

[cloud blade]

No

Problem

Gl!

[charred bridge]

[vernal notch]

Would love for someone to look over my doubles team centered on flutter mane: https://pokepast.es/35b732b76f9c758d
this is the first team I have built by myself as I usually rotate through rental teams 🙂

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[ruby crest]

This is for singles ou

Double ou has their own rmt

[vernal notch]

oh soz

[ruby crest]

All good

[rugged saffron]

Kinda new to ou, how can i improve this team:
https://pokepast.es/7a84dd143dba1fa4

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[upper maple]

Don't use sub & protect on heatran

Change it to taunt & rocks

[clever totem]

Also pretty new to OU, is there anything i could be doing better for this team:
https://pokepast.es/793b306606202e22

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[spiral fable]

manual sun is bad

this team is lost: you have a suicide lead, but also a manual weather setter, then a offensive pivot and a defensive pivot?

[clever totem]

fair enough. i saw someone else use it and it worked against me but i assume i just sucked

[spiral fable]

I would recommend you stick to a sample now

!gen9ousamples

[viral sable]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[spiral fable]

Very good teams that you can learn the metagame with

[fierce basin]

I was trying to write something up to fix this, but I was making so many changes it wasn't going to be the same team anymore. After staring at this team for awhile, I'd recommend scrapping for the following reasons:
You're smashed entirely by kingambit. If I replace landorus with speed booster bulk up tusk I take away your only ground immunity (also idk what this lando is doing I can't figure out the usecase at all other than hitting just tusk, cant be dozo since you have waterpon)
most the team loses to clicking water move so I was gonna make your heatran a dragonite or something so you had some semblance of priority as well as some resists that you're currently lacking, especially since idk what sub protect heatran is doing feels like wasted moveslots
darkrai isn't strong enough to run wide lens it needs life orb. Don't run shitnosis if you aren't okay with missing
if you're gonna run court change cinderace you're probably better off running hp invest over attack and probably wisp, but I don't even like it here. I was gonna make it a hatterene so you have some sort of sweeper stopper so guys like roaring moon don't just run over you as well as maintaining some semblance of hazard control, but again the team was unrecognizable w all the changes I was thinking of so you're probably better off scrapping. Even with the changes I was thinking of the team feels aimless. However I hope this input hopes for your next attempt. good luck and have fun

[tepid glacier]

is iron valiant or meowscarda a better revenge killer? Valiant is very good mixed attack but meowscarda is just as verstile with lowkick

and ice sppinner

[ruby crest]

This is more of a question at #comp-general

[rugged saffron]

Hey, thanks for the advice! Its rare i get such detailed responses, much appreciated

[fierce basin]

no problem, figured even if I was unable to fix it the time I spent thinking over the team could still be useful

[tepid glacier]

https://pokepast.es/5825c16d53b263a7

sorry this was a question for my team

[ruby crest]

I haven’t used scarf iron Val in forever tho meowscarada seems a lot better since it acts as a pseudo ghost resist

[tepid glacier]

i mean it takes care of gliscor good

but its so fragile it feel like

[ruby crest]

Well yeah but u have immense back to cover that

[real willow]

https://pokepast.es/5f82769a8231a640
I felt like building around skarm + a ground but this feels really weak to hatterene, how do I not be as weak to it?
I feel like raging bolt is the weak point here but rn I also feel pretty weak to water types

[ruby crest]

bolt is fine if anything boulder seems a bit unnecessary could use some immediate breaking power

[spiral fable]

banded gambit

[ruby crest]

I don’t like clod here but honestly helps with the water mu along side bolt

I’ll finish a proper rate in a bit got to finish unpacking

[real willow]

I think I started building Skarm Lu Weav Volc but didn't like how limited my anti-Water options became so I made Lu a Clod instead

[ruby crest]

There’s a lot of good options for those like dozo pex and ofc some offensive dragons, tho they all get owned by the arch

[charred bridge]

Hey, just as a followup, I kept skarm and hatt (but went mystical fire > nuzzle), and changed reun to hex/twave/sub/recover lefties reddit ghold and it's been really really good, so ty again for the suggestions

[real willow]

Bump

[ruby crest]

was super busy sorry

[real willow]

That's ok

I'm just still a bit unsure about what sort of instant offense would work for this team

[ruby crest]

honestly since the main core is skarm clod decided to keep those and decided to do zama > terrak additional speed control and also gives u an immediate breaker which also benefits a lot from spikes + extra essurance against gambit, wanted to do tera dragon on volcarona to better deal aginst the amount of dragons in the tier making it much more potent win condition, and also decided to do dozo > raging bolt for a more reliable water resist outside of clod and also loads into against a bunch of stuff better to ease skarms role like iron boulder and moon

[real willow]

Especially since this team is using a bunch of boots Pokes so that it doesn't have to run Great Tusk

[ruby crest]

https://pokepast.es/5db769aaed70706d heres a pokepaste of the team a bit of nitpick u can add an extra investment in speed on skarm for jolly gambit

rare but maniacs exist so up to you

[real willow]

How would I play this vs CM Hatt?

[ruby crest]

alternatively u can also do clef > dozo not a better mu against the mons listed but u do load into other mons like pex and stuff

[ruby crest]

tricky tbh doesnt like to comfortably switch in into weavile or zama, so play aggresively even beneficial for volc who can take +1 psyshock if its weaken

[real willow]

What would Clef run here after Moon Knock?

[flat wadi]

I am very new to Pokemon Showdown is it ok if I send my team

[ruby crest]

There’s two sets u can hoenstly do tho I’m thinking more of doing trick barb clef more since u can dick over a lot of Mons that would be problematic

[ruby crest]

Yeh ur fine to do so

[flat wadi]

I mostly just use pokemon that I like

[real willow]

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[flat wadi]

ohh ok

[real willow]

I guess I should've preemptively sent that

[real willow]

Is the other set some form of Unaware cuz I'd rather use Magic Guard on a team like this

[flat wadi]

where is the link

[ruby crest]

Na it was going to be magic guard regardless

[real willow]

Ah

Is the other set Calm Mind?

[ruby crest]

it’s cm tho me like sticky barb trick more

[brisk cedar]

Wherever links are in your browser

[viral sable]

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/clefable/

[real willow]

Hm

Could you send a TrickBarb clef set?

[brisk cedar]

We should probably add that as a sample

At least as a set

I'll ask someone to add it

[flat wadi]

I cant seem to send my team

[real willow]

Does it not open a new tab in ur browser?

[flat wadi]

https://pokepast.es/87bb93d7951c54d9

[flat wadi]

i was using the showdown app

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[spiral fable]

ok so 4/6 of these mons aren't in ou

[flat wadi]

they always worked for me

[spiral fable]

if these mons were good they would be ou proper

[flat wadi]

I just use pokemon that I like and then adjust the team when I see any problems

I started yesterday btw

[spiral fable]

That's fine, just understand that OU is a usage based tier

[flat wadi]

oh alright

[brisk cedar]

This is for teams to be optimized, if you just wanna use pokemon you like that's fine but this isn't the place to send the team

[spiral fable]

And players will use the best mons for the tier, and mons that fall below them are generally in those lower tiers because they are not viable

[flat wadi]

do you think i should switch your tiers

[spiral fable]

probably

[flat wadi]

ok which tier should i use

and i would assume the 2 pokemon that are part of OU are landorus T and swampert?

its fine those are the ones I like the least anyway

[real willow]

The two OU mons are Lando T and Pult

[flat wadi]

nooooo i love dragapult

its fine

so i should switch tiers and remove those mons from my team?

[real willow]

You can build around Pult

[flat wadi]

i would rather keep lucario and toxtricity tbh

2 of my favorite mons

[real willow]

Just don't use Luke Tox Pert or Garde

Alright if u want to play with those two

[viral sable]

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/lucario/

[flat wadi]

i will probably make 2 teams

[viral sable]

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/toxapex/

[flat wadi]

but just not main OU anymore

main a diff tier for lucario

[spiral fable]

Play RU if you want to use lucario

Play NU for toxtricity

[flat wadi]

ok thanks

ill get more advice later im gonna go rn

[spiral fable]

I would recommend you go to #comp-general for more, well general questions

[ruby crest]

Clefable @ Sticky Barb
Ability: Magic Guard
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 248 HP / 236 Def / 16 SpD / 8 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Moonblast
• Trick
• Moonlight
• Stealth Rock

[real willow]

Thx

Probably gonna swap SR for a different move but yea

Thx

If I have Trick Barb, do I need Knock?

[ruby crest]

Me don’t think so

[cloud blade]

Yall should go 100 speed to outspeed other skarms and to outspeed anything else that’s speed creeping gambit

Its what the skarm i run use and its helpful to beat opposing skarm consistently

[real willow]

dang clefable can't learn aromathrapy

[still citrus]

What’s the best bolt counter

I can think of like 2

[ruby crest]

thats more of a question at #comp-general

[real willow]

tried a version of this team with clef > dozo but I was noticeably weak to fire

[ruby crest]

yeh that make sense either way ur bound to weak to something so pick whichever mu u prefer

[brisk cedar]

It was deleted

Entirely

Not in the code

[real willow]

what if I ran a boots walking wake?

[ruby crest]

u can tho u lose a lot of useful defenses for a lot of stuff personally

[real willow]

Fair enough

[real willow]

The reason I thought of Boots Wake was so that I could have a second Knock user

Maybe Empoleon fits that role better

[quaint swan]

https://pokepast.es/639170fcab60f16e

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[upper maple]

No rocks/removal

No knock off

[cloud blade]

-Drop moltres for a hazards skarmory
-drop low kick for sd on gambit (no sd is a throw, and u already have luna for dozo)
-drop pult for a Kyruem (much more consistent specs mon, way better mola synergy)
-drop ghold for rocks spin booster speed tusk

[cloud blade]

You dont need knock if you are a hazardless BO

So removal was the only problem tbh

[upper maple]

Being hazardless is not good

Except screens ho

[cloud blade]

I agree on this team its bad

Honestly

[cloud blade]

I changed some stuff on the reccomendations

Cuz the kyurem addition along with ursa, force a lot of switches, i agree, a hazard balance would work a lot better here

[thin gorge]

https://pokepast.es/ce656117155c5d29 can someone rate my team

[surreal bloom]

Wouldn’t u want a swift swimmer

on a rain team

[sly mauve]

theres almost no point of rain

[clear sentinel]

hows my team:
https://pokepast.es/68a6cef08095a4b0

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @west harbor, @forest magnet, @spiral fable, @green citrus, @fierce basin, @brisk cedar, @surreal kelp, @cloud gull. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[sly mauve]

no hazard/ hazard removal right off the bat

wait

nvm

court change

[clear sentinel]

cindy

[sly mauve]

yeah

idk if your team is aggressive enough for just cinderace to work

you can only really do it once

[upper maple]

No swift swim mon

[upper maple]

Clodsire does not fit here

You don't need 2 banded mons

[clear sentinel]

i needed an unaware pokemon and i need fast pokemon with immediate power

thats why theres 2 bands

[upper maple]

Just use band zama

It's immediate power and fast

No need for 2

[clear sentinel]

dnite is better bc of priority espeed

i can probably switch zama with darkrai

[upper maple]

Then use boots zama

[clear sentinel]

specs darkrai would also cover fairy and still be fast

[upper maple]

Again you don't need 2 band/specs users

[clear sentinel]

i sorta do

the immediate power is useful

[upper maple]

Yeah so just run 1 band/specs

[spiral fable]

You don’t need two breakers one is fine, you should run a setup sweeper as well, you have no hazards and you’re lacking reliable hazard control

[clear sentinel]

how about scarf darkrai

[spiral fable]

Also you have one spattacker and it’s Zapdos

[spiral fable]

Bad

[clear sentinel]

what do you suggest

[spiral fable]

Honestly I would suggest just scrapping this team: I would need to swap 3+ mons and change most of their sets, and at that point it’s not even your own team anymore and it’ll be better to run a sample.

!gen9ousamples

[viral sable]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[spiral fable]

You have a rain team with no swift swim and only two mons that abuse it

I would recommend you use a sample as well, there’s a rain team made by exotic that’s pretty good

https://pokepast.es/53cd8d7b747d3c80

[random knot]

https://pokepast.es/28dfd3a86370cb72
Hii I really want to make a team for doubles OU around Mimikyu
I'm very new to teambuilding but I came up with this

[fierce basin]

This channel is for regular OU, there's a different channel under #1051236342740308089 for doubles

[forest magnet]

this is sv ou rates

[random knot]

O

whoops

ty

[sly mauve]

can you guys help me with some teams i made for a tournament? im not too confident in my team building so there's probably a few holes
https://pokepast.es/5986ef8d2d865c17
https://pokepast.es/e17f0afd443700e6

[forest magnet]

@fierce basin u wanna take one and i take the other?

[fierce basin]

im way up

im nopt on

either of those

[forest magnet]

ah k

will do rohans

[fierce basin]

👍

[upper maple]

Booster val is kinda weird on the first one

You also don't need 2 breakers

[sly mauve]

i just had rillaboom for speed control

i might change the wake then

[sly mauve]

how come

i use corviknight to get it in

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/3a904b8baa2140de
Swapped Corv for Molt, giving you less weakness to Heatran and can lure it in w scorching sands and tera ground to power up sands (also can lure skeledirge). swapped Ival for driller for hazrd removal (more consistent than corv vs dengo and to give an offensive fairy resist.

[upper maple]

This isn't like HO where you're going to stay in all the time

[sly mauve]

thank you

[upper maple]

And booster is only for the first time you switch in

[sly mauve]

yeah you're right

i had it as a late game wincon

[sly mauve]

alright thanks

[fierce basin]

hi, first thing I notice is your whole team is pretty susceptible to hazards, so I think the first thing to do is either replace moltres (who should not ever be running 0 speed modest btw if you were gonna use him he should be defensively invested) with a court change cinderace or a hatterene. I don't think ghold is necessary on this team since you don't have any hazards to keep up, but I guess it's so you can t wave stuff? and tbh cloak is a pretty old set garg is extinct so it's pretty safe to ignore that matchup in lieu of an actual useful item on ghold. In this case I think it should be balloon so you have a ground immunity and a gliscor stopper, and I made it hex since you have t wave on ghold and scald on alo
You have some pretty not useful moveslots, like cc on ursaluna is pretty much dead content since you have stab facade so it should be either swords dance or trailblaze (probably sd since you dont have speed invest)
You're shooting yourself in the foot by not running swords dance on broken ass kingambit, he needs it. tera fire is also a pretty old tera that I don't think is very relevant anymore, I made it dark
I put uturn on pult over terablast fairy
paste w changes https://pokepast.es/0a44555aac093f16
other options:
-hatterene over cinderace as your hazard control, has the added bonus of beating gliscor forever, can nuzzle sweepers like roaring moon that would get out of control and own you (balloon on gambit would also stop this from happening but is prob unnecessary)
-I may be on something, but I think putting alluring voice over mirror coat on alomomola and KOing a roaring moon as it tries to set up and win on you would be really funny
-speed on luna w trailblaze over sd, but idk what the evs are for so I didnt touch them
-dragonite over ghold
Honestly I still don't think the team is great but I saw some stuff that definitely needed changing so I hope this helps a bit for your next attempt as well, good luck and have fun

[upper maple]

Gyat

Damn

[sly mauve]

i just changed the moltres set to have tera ground and scorching sands

[flat wadi]

im gonna get absolutely destroyed but here we go

[flat wadi]

https://pokepast.es/8897990e30847b3e

[chilly meadow]

im like new to gen 9 ou (gen 9 in general) so this teams dogshit but pls rate 💀 https://pokepast.es/c2ccf937c1e4674d

[spiral fable]

you dont need two breakers, you have no hazard removal with a bunch of hazard weak mons, some sets are questionable, you have essentially 3 spdef mons with no phys walls/pivots

When you build teams, I would recommend you use the smogon sets for most of them: they're usually a goto standard to use, even if some are outdated

[ruby crest]

Na a lot are outdated rn tbh

[spiral fable]

i mean sets like cb rilla cs pult ting lu spikes etc i would imagine are still fine

[brisk cedar]

We just updated a ton of them 💀

every good mon and new mon got updated

[chilly meadow]

Ok thank you I appreciate it <3

[spiral fable]

You have 5 special attackers and only one physical attacker, no hazards nor any removal, pex and lando feel pretty out of place on this team
What style were you going for? HO? If that's the case, you don't need a specs mon nor a defensive wall like pex
If you were going for a bulkier offense, you need at least a hazard setter, and preferably a remover and a pivot as well
I would recommend you use a sample for now, and learn what the general structure of each archetype looks like

!gen9ousamples

[viral sable]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[flat wadi]

idk i tried to have a physical attacker, defender, and then same for special

[ruby crest]

Bless

[spiral fable]

Yeah, I would recommend you play around with some of the samples, they show you general team structures

[flat wadi]

ok thanks

[quick bluff]

https://pokepast.es/54fc94baf6fc355d

tryna build around gapdos

[clear sentinel]

https://pokepast.es/df36452d6869e1dc made a new team per your advice how is it

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @west harbor, @forest magnet, @spiral fable, @green citrus, @fierce basin, @brisk cedar, @surreal kelp. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[spiral fable]

So you have a sun team, but you also have a suicide lead, skeledirge? and ting lu

[forest magnet]

is this a sun team or an HO team

[clear sentinel]

can it not be both?

[forest magnet]

generally, they don't mix well

[spiral fable]

If you run weather you need to dedicate to the weather

If you run ho you need to dedicate to the ho

[forest magnet]

sun has 8 turns and you wanna abuse those 8 turns as much as possible

[spiral fable]

^

[forest magnet]

spikes adds more things to manage which wastes ur turns

[spiral fable]

Maximize the amount of abusers you have, dont waste any turns on "hazards" or "defensive play"

[clear sentinel]

ok tysm

[forest magnet]

going full sun offensive lets u abuse sun the most

[spiral fable]

here one sec

!gen9ousamples

[viral sable]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[clear sentinel]

im still abit new i dont rly know what im doing

[forest magnet]

np, @spiral fable will give you a sun sample team

[spiral fable]

https://pokepast.es/7d0b44bff29d2ad1
here's a sample sun team

See how they only have one "defensive" mon and it's hatterene, which provides good utility to keep off hazards while still maintaining offensive pressure with calm mind

[clear sentinel]

ah ok

[spiral fable]

Meanwhile, the rest of their team is all offensive mons that use sun(except gambit but gambit is a cleaner if they run out of sun)

Chlorphyll venusaur with growth, gouging fire protosynth, walking wake protosynth

[clear sentinel]

wait this actually makes sense

[spiral fable]

They have a mix of spattackers and phys attackers, some which can sweep and others that assert immediate offensive pressure

And of course, sun setter torkoal itself

[clear sentinel]

the whole team is dedicated to the sun and when it runs out u either go back to torkoal or clean with kingambit right?

[spiral fable]

Yes

[clear sentinel]

ty :D

[clear sentinel]

how about now https://pokepast.es/f7e0a9cf9724f062

[spiral fable]

Better, but you don't need clef

Hatterene is on the sample team because it offers amazing utility in magic bounce while still being able to threaten with cm

Also whats up with the evs on bolt?

[clear sentinel]

thats on the sample on smogon

[spiral fable]

huh, alright then

[clear sentinel]

cool i'll try it

tysm

[spiral fable]

np

another form of hatterne you can try(and the one i prefer) is eject button with nuzzle and healing wish btw

provides a nice one time pivot at the cost of offensive pressure, but also adds some support with nuzzle and hwish

[paper crater]

i've liked this team into a lot of playstyles like balance and HO but i've been rly struggling vs a few things like volcarona, kyurem and psy terrain HO https://pokepast.es/c6a663b454095806

if anyone has any advice on if i should switch a mon or any sets then lmk pls 🙏 i switched twave out for yawn on gking for volc but idk if there's any sets i can optimize either

[quick bluff]

(bump)

[ruby crest]

This team is relatively fine except for the obvious weakness to fairy skarm doesn’t really count as a fairy resist but outside of that it’s fine

Unless u struggling with something that u wanna improve on

[quick bluff]

ah fair, would investing some into skarm's spdef help at all?

[ruby crest]

no it’s not worth it

[quick bluff]

alright

i'll do some testing, hopefully glowking is enough

[paper crater]

bump..

[sly mauve]

balanced/bulky offense

https://pokepast.es/327b6c0ba07ff913

[ruby crest]

I would recommend a spdef gliscor > tusk will help along the way with volc along with gking and also def recommend toxic > yawn on gking in putting things like kyurem and volc on a timer, kyurem mu is going to be hard regardless since there really isn’t a good answer to it, what part of psy terrain ho are u struggling with exactly mu against should be fine

[quaint swan]

https://pokepast.es/69927d36c8266ec4

[paper crater]

whenever i play it i just never had a switchin to expanding force 😭 gking gets 2h by it

i was thinking gliscor but then i don't have hazard removal which is kinda lame

i could run boots on everything

and just wish pass with alomamola to keep bolt alive

[ruby crest]

It’s fine boots spam is kinda normal especially for these type of builds

[forest magnet]

@ruby crest hate to leave u on ur own, lmk which one to take

[fierce basin]

this is mostly fine, I think the 6 themselves have no problem but I'd make the great tusk speed booster bulk up, I don't think the team benefits much from t wave on ghold so I made it plot/recover and gave it enough speed to outspeed raging bolt. I don't know why kingambit has the spdef evs, blackglasses without full attack seems weird. I made glimmora tera ghost, and I don't like this weird 4 attack not av hatterene set, I think you get a lot more out of calm mind hatt defensively invested instead of offensively, and you can choose between mystical fire/nuzzle
paste w changes https://pokepast.es/3700d061995ac44d hope this helps good luck have fun

[ruby crest]

Take this one @forest magnet

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/93d557d8d049f6b8 Solid stuff, just made a few minor changes. Made Clef Wish support and Magic Guard to help preserve it and your Primarina. Made Dpult Specs for immediate power, and had Knock > Temper Flare because that won't even kill most Gholdengo (shifting to defensive) and you have AV Prima to deal with dengo.

I would just warn you, that you are pretty weak to Iron Boulder. Try to limit its switchins, and save tera if needed. Gliscor should deal with it most of the time, but remember that you cannot protect on it (Mighty Cleave breaks thru) and it runs Tera Flying sometimes. Try Toxic stalling it. Also try keeping Dengo's Air Ball intact to wall Iron Boulder. but thats pretty hard for the full course of the game.

You can also go Dengo < Skarm standard defensive set and Gking > Prima for a better Boulder matchup and Kyurem matchup. https://pokepast.es/0b5af850b540b315

[velvet path]

https://pokepast.es/20c2ac9e1e462e8b

[upper maple]

You should run focus blast over knock off on rai

You also have no immediate power and no priority

What's the volcarona ev spread for btw

[velvet path]

i dont really know

[paper crater]

https://pokepast.es/3afc4e13ab0d9ca4 idk how to fit hazard control on here which is my main gripe

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @west harbor, @forest magnet, @spiral fable, @green citrus, @fierce basin, @brisk cedar, @surreal kelp. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[ruby crest]

This team is fine without hazard control since it’s hdb spam tho I would prefer lefties on raging bolt then booster here personally

[errant wing]

https://pokepast.es/ed21f3fab5fff0e5 trying to make a balance team but it doesnt last long if primarina gets chipped too much especially if great tusk cant spin hazards away

[upper maple]

Change temper flare on tusk to knock off

[errant wing]

What about the tera

[upper maple]

Steel or smth

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/807dc2840aaccaa0
funny harcanine go brrr + voltturn to bring it in

[upper maple]

Doesn't this get dogged on by val

With tera steel or smth

Special/mixed val

[chilly meadow]

https://pokepast.es/396c367d9f94975c is this team ok (meowscarada is there bc i have no idea what to use for my 6th and im scared of kingambit and adamant+protean+brickbreak ohkos bulky king i think also i just realized i hv the wrong nature for tork LOL)

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @west harbor, @forest magnet, @spiral fable, @green citrus, @fierce basin, @brisk cedar, @surreal kelp. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[brisk cedar]

This isn't a good sun team

Meow, zap and ghold don't fit, tusk shouldn't be scarf

I'd take the sun sample if you want sun

!gen9ousamples

[viral sable]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[brisk cedar]

For an explanation why, Torkoal is pretty bad so you need pokemon that can take advantage of Drought to offset the opportunity cost, Hatterene and Kingambit are the two main exceptions

[chilly meadow]

ok thank you <3

[velvet cradle]

How's my OU Lokix team? Made it for fun bc why not
https://pokepast.es/27f492194bb84aa6

[north knoll]

My experimental Fast HO OU team
https://pokepast.es/d59b3a2fce260afe

[spiral fable]

So this is a bit too experimental
No reason to have espeed when you outspeed everything except booster mons(and even then you don't really care you're just setting hazards anyways), you need spikes on deo s, and pain split isn't realy going to do much when you can rather use it for taunt, etc
You don't need two rockers and if excadrill is on ho it better have sd
...scarf lando with sandstorm? and no uturn? on ho? no
Why does your gholdengo run poltergeist, a physical move, when you have special invest and nasty plot, or memento when you're trying to sweep with it, or focus blast over the reliable stab of make it rain
Quaquaval is ok but not good in ou, especially without webs support
You don't need a band mon on ho, and why is it running chilling water and petal blizzard on a banded physical set? and no flower trick?
I would recommend you run a sample for now, they're good for learning the common sets and structures of mons and teams

!gen9ousamples

[viral sable]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[north knoll]

Thanks a million for the help! 1 thing I know for sure how great of a hazard setter Deo S is

[ocean pumice]

at least run spikes on it

[velvet path]

https://pokepast.es/20c2ac9e1e462e8b

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @west harbor, @forest magnet, @spiral fable, @green citrus, @fierce basin, @brisk cedar, @surreal kelp. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[lethal surge]

https://pokepast.es/d82f8b344cc5975a I need help with a team that supports Weavile. Any suggestions or changes I needed to make?

[fierce basin]

please don't repost teams if you posted them in the same day, raters will (hopefully) get to it if they have the time. With a team like this you should probably say what kind of matchup you want improved, you can run boots spam w knock hazards and balance breaker a million different ways, the easiest improvement is probably using tox over uturn on glisc and replacing darkrai w kyurem but that's really just trading out matchups. I dont really think ghold is necessary in these boots spam teams cause they generally have the longevity to get them back up again and you should be using Skarm as your steel prob so you arent 6-0d by tusk but these teams also need smth to beat opposing balances so I guess ghold is fine. I also don't really get what this volc spread is doing, generally you should invest in hp before specific defensive stats, the spatk invest x def invest x 0 hp invest is weird and as far as I can tell nonsensical, you can check every smogon spread volc has ever had across every generation it's been in and you won't see defense invest before hp invest

[velvet path]

what set for like volc and kyurem

[fierce basin]

Volcarona @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Flame Body
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 248 HP / 24 Def / 80 SpA / 156 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Quiver Dance
• Flamethrower
• Morning Sun
• Tera Blast

[velvet path]

is kryurem like specs or dd

[fierce basin]

Actually last slot is prob better off as boots pult so you aren't as smashed by kyurem

I guess u could accomplish that w scarf rai too but you'd need to run focus blast and then also hit it

[velvet path]

also what are the evs on this set for

[fierce basin]

I ripped them off the xavgb fat sample because it seemed like the same purpose needed to be filled (can lose to dirge cause u got pex but beats kyurem etc)

[fierce basin]

I've decided this team cannot function without major restructuring due to getting 6-0d by tusk, forget about blocking hazards with ghold and make your steel skarmory with iron defense and go from there

or even corv

[ocean pumice]

https://pokepast.es/3ecff662a3cdee6d

been dying to get this rated

[lethal surge]

Needed some with improving this set

[fiery sapphire]

This team is prob ass. So far smogon analysis has nothing on primarina so I thought with archaludon and gliscor it could help with pivoting

https://pokepast.es/824b19c996b3c76b

I mostly want to build a balance or bulky offense based around archaludon and glisc being double hazard stack

Yeah its mega ass, pretty weak to hazard chip

[ruby crest]

Yeah if u ain’t doing hazard control here then u want hdb spam generally

[tranquil niche]

https://pokepast.es/7d2cff54918a91c8
scarf enam offense

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @west harbor, @forest magnet, @spiral fable, @green citrus, @fierce basin, @brisk cedar, @surreal kelp. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[upper maple]

Change temper flare on tusk to knock off

[tranquil niche]

I wanna keep temper flare

I never click knock off on tusk

the rest of my team can't really abuse removal of rocky helmet anywyas

[upper maple]

Me when boots

You're running spikes and rocks on skarm

And you don't have a knock off user

[tranquil niche]

what tusk swap ins use boots again i frogo

dozo

is that it?

I'd prefer temper flare cuz it's a new option and I want to try it

[upper maple]

It doesn't matter, you need a knock off user anyways

[tranquil niche]

I'll switch back to knock later

[upper maple]

For the switch in thing

[tranquil niche]

Any other issues other than the lack of knock?

[sly mauve]

with the amount of priority i have + scarf meow
it should be manageable

[azure pecan]

temper flare is only good on bulk up

on certain builds where you have knock abusers and want to nuke skarm

[grizzled mural]

https://pokepast.es/9aca0a4430a12e89

Made this team a little while ago, struggling with opposing ekillers and priorities

[fiery sapphire]

https://pokepast.es/3eb97f9036c9017f. This team might be too slow

[azure pecan]

6-0d by terrak right

[high pier]

Terrak?

[azure pecan]

sam sulek lookinass

the future one

[upper maple]

Slow but you have 3 priority mons so idk also you do not need 3 knock off users

Also replace earthquake on tusk

Grassy terrain reduces the damage of it

[fiery sapphire]

https://pokepast.es/58f3d414829218cf hmmm goes this teams matchup against gouging fire

[grizzled mural]

Actually no

I’m usually pretty good at countering it

[azure pecan]

ur whole teams outsped tho

[thin gorge]

https://pokepast.es/90d14bb75494dc61 can someone rmt please

[sly mauve]

why does pex have 20 speed

[fiery sapphire]

Hmmm something feels wrong about this team.

[ruby crest]

For hatterene and do haze

[sly mauve]

ah

[ruby crest]

I feel like I rated this but this team is fine only suggestion is do Tera dragon > fighting on skarm

[sly mauve]

still waiting for mine to be rated 😔

[ruby crest]

Raters will get to teams when they can

[fierce basin]

alright kirin,
webs is pretty like, set play if you get what I mean so any changes I make are potentially just preference. Regardless, here is what I'd change if I were to play the team:
a bulkier ghold set in order to keep webs up more easily. The spread I'm giving you is something I came up with for the toucannon webs I brought vs leng loi (ignore the fact I got 6-0d). This modest spread has the same spatk as full invest timid ghold while also outpacing iron boulder after it gets dropped by webs.
I think that roaring moon and kingambit are both probably individually fine on webs, but I'd only run one of them on the same team (moon in this case). I'm replacing your kingambit with a raging neck so you still have that sucker punch support, but he's a bit faster than kingambit so he can still kinda take advantage of webs unlike gambit
I don't love iron boulder on this team and you don't have any emergency removal on the offchance smeargle leads into another hazard setter, so I think you could make it a speed booster bulk up tusk. I'm incredibly tuskpilled personally I love this mon and set and think it's hard for it to not put in work, it also helps you never lose to kingambit even if you mess up a bit
paste w changes https://pokepast.es/b8c89bb2ad99b80c
other options:
glare on serp over dragon pulse, I get that dragon pulse is necessary for sweeps but glare is a good sweeper stopper since it's like, the most bROKEN move in the game.
If you don't care about having removal, I think the boulder/tusk could be all sorts of things it's kind of a free slot, you could patch up your scarf enam matchup and make it a gouging fire or something. go crazy make it a sd archaludon the world is your oyster
hope this helps good luck have fun

[ocean pumice]

alr thanks spidget (woockle arc) very helpful

[fierce basin]

good that is my goal

[dawn bear]

Glimmora (F) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Toxic Debris
Level: 99
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

• Stealth Rock
• Mortal Spin
• Earth Power
• Power Gem

Dragonite (F) @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Multiscale
Level: 94
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 148 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Def / 4 SpD / 60 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Scale Shot
• Iron Head
• Extreme Speed
• Low Kick

Galvantula (F) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Compound Eyes
Level: 99
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

• Sticky Web
• Volt Switch
• Bug Buzz
• Energy Ball

Feraligatr (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Dragon Dance
• Liquidation
• Ice Punch
• Crunch

Zoroark-Hisui (F) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Illusion
Level: 92
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

• Shadow Ball
• Trick
• U-turn
• Hyper Voice

Porygon2 @ Eviolite
Ability: Download
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 244 HP / 252 Def / 12 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe

• Discharge
• Ice Beam
• Recover
• Trick Room

[spiral fable]

!pokepaste

[viral sable]

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[dawn bear]

I tried using PokePaste but it was saying it was invalid

[upper maple]

Why are most of these mons under level 100

Also trick room porygon when you are running fast pokemon

[dawn bear]

I haven't fully trained them and was out of Rare Candies,

Also aren't they normally set to level 50 anyway?

[upper maple]

That's for vgc and some other formats

[dawn bear]

I don't know what vgc is, but I just haven't gotten them to 100 yet

[spiral fable]

I'm going to be frank if you're presenting an in game team it's going to be trash

[dawn bear]

Aren't all pokemon in game?

[spiral fable]

Yeah

[dawn bear]

I don't know what you mean by that

[spiral fable]

First of all, this is the sv ou channel: This means all battles are done on showdown, an online battle simulator, not the in game service

[dawn bear]

I was linked this channel to rate my team, I just clicked the SV one

[spiral fable]

There is no need to train a team on simulator because frankly it's a massive time sink for no reason, and you can just choose the mons you want online anyways

[spiral fable]

Do you know what format you want to play

[dawn bear]

Single Battle

[spiral fable]

Which single battle?

[dawn bear]

Scarlet/Violet

[spiral fable]

there's a lot of "single battle" formats, do you want to play bss(battle spot singles, the "official" version of singles), OU, the standard play for smogon singles, UU, RU, etc

[dawn bear]

I guess bss? If its the official one, I just wanted to try the online competition on SV, I've never played against people before, so I found this Discord to ask to play against people so I could practice, and they told me to post my team here

[spiral fable]

go here then
https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1060690402711183370

[dawn bear]

Thank you

Also I figured out what was wrong with my pokepaste

https://pokepast.es/f9746dca52945cf1

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @west harbor, @forest magnet, @spiral fable, @green citrus, @fierce basin, @brisk cedar, @surreal kelp. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[dawn bear]

I updated my pokemon to level 100 for the SV OU now

[spiral fable]

4/6 of these mons are not ou viable, and the dnite set is not viable+the evs are weird
if you want a list of good teams to start you off in the meta use these

!gen9ousamples

[viral sable]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[real willow]

Are you building for SV BSS?

[dawn bear]

I think so, but also OU, I think

[real willow]

OU is quite different from BSS

The Pokemon allowed in each is different

As is the format itself

I don't think you should try and build 1 team for both formats

[dawn bear]

I built this team for my first competitive team, I came to this server to ask to battle people with experience, and I was told to just post the team. So I do know that formats and things are different, I'm just trying to learn, because I've never played against another person before

[spiral fable]

Yes, like I said, you should pick up a sample team and start with that instead

[dawn bear]

I plan on trying out one of those teams, but I don't have a lot of those mons built or even have some of them.

[ruby crest]

sounds like u are playing in cartridge ?

[dawn bear]

Yes

[ruby crest]

yeh then I would stick to BSS since ou teams are vastly different compared to bss

[dawn bear]

I posted my team in BSS as well, I've just only received feedback over here so far is all, because I originally posted here before I knew what the letters meant

[ruby crest]

Yeah since u are playing for cat#stride recommend play BSS someone will eventually get to u

[fiery sapphire]

Any raters online?

[forest magnet]

online

tell me what u want 2 get rated

[fiery sapphire]

https://pokepast.es/58f3d414829218cf first gen 9 ou team since before the dlc. Ik its garbo but I tried.

[fierce basin]

Guys bumping your team 4 times in 8 hours is pretty pointless we can scroll up

[lethal surge]

https://pokepast.es/d82f8b344cc5975a I need help with a team that supports Weavile. Any suggestions or changes I needed to make?

[fierce basin]

alright,
if you're struggling with getting picked off by priority the easiest changes to make are probably making hatterene bold healing wish (I'd also make it eject button so you can freely pivot into a sun sweeper after setting it up) so you can bring back whoever from a low hp they would've been revenge killed at.
For torkoal, you can keep all of your spdef EVs but just swap the nature to relaxed so it has an easier time wisping the priority guys that are picking you off
For venusaur specifically you can keep your hp higher by running giga drain over solar beam which imo is pretty unnecessary, just growth and giga drain and get it all back.
If you want to have speed booster roaring moon, imo you're better off investing in hp over defense. I'm keeping speed boost in the paste because thats how you had it but going attack booster may also be worth a try
I put ice spinner over close combat on your tusk, avoids defense drops so you can bulk up and sweep and also gets rid of grassy terrain so rillaboom cant glide or wood hammer you if youre set up. I also swapped your tera to poison, I get you may have grass so you resist quake but it's a better tera type overall for it.
paste w changes https://pokepast.es/0b19870f684d7049
other options:
nuzzle over calm mind on hatt since you won't have the longevity from leftovers anymore
full invest in moon attack so you get the proto boost
hope this helps, good luck have fun

[fiery sapphire]

Hello?

[forest magnet]

sorry had to eat lunch

[fiery sapphire]

I see

What do you think of the team?

[forest magnet]

its intresting

[fiery sapphire]

Yeah i dont expect it to be very good, but I think flip turn primarina seems cool.

[forest magnet]

thats the only reason?

THIS TEAM LACKS COHESION

sorry caps lock

[fiery sapphire]

Well thats the main pokemon I wanted to build around, bulky primarina, then great tusk seemed like it'd work well given its typing. I also tend to play balance or bulky offense.

[forest magnet]

ah

[forest magnet]

Well this team is pretty weak to Weavile in general, it can use SD and sweep, or just the 4attacks set being really annoying

primarina is really passive in general too.

let me get some changes to fix this

@fiery sapphire https://pokepast.es/c14e6cd2f7353ec1 Here are your changes, I tried to keep as much of the old team as possible, making Prima Bulky + AV so it can really wall things, swapped Corv for Skarm for a better Weavile check, and Tusk will be taking hazard removal instead of both of them I used Temper Flare over Ice Spinner so you can remove as easy as possible as well as Boots so it ignores Webs and hazard chip and still recovers under the terrain.

also just a warning for the future please don't repost your team in a 24 hour timespan. Hope this doesn't happen again.

[fiery sapphire]

Thanks, and I'll slow down on posting teams.

[ocean pumice]

erm its 3 🤓

[spiral fable]

unviable

[ocean pumice]

horoark is usable i think

[spiral fable]

low viability a month ago and i doubt it's risen any higher since

[ocean pumice]

at least he isnt feraligatr or p2

[spiral fable]

the point still stands

[umbral adder]

https://pokepast.es/d1ee0d64400bc1b5

dont know if i want draco or darts on pult

[ruby crest]

U want darts

Tho I would go Tera ice on kyurem tbh for more breaking power tbh

[umbral adder]

anything else?

[ruby crest]

Like I said team looks relatively fine

[ruby crest]

Wait this should be specs kyurem

[umbral adder]

oh it should ok

just thought boots would better fit team comp

[ruby crest]

Na specs gives u immediate breaker power that you want on this team

[umbral adder]

sick thanks

@ruby crest just curious can tera blast fairy work on volc? wanna try it to help protect my dragons

[ruby crest]

Hmm you can tho given how you have pex skarm and Lu you cover most if not all major dragons bar like opposing kyurem which u do have volc for

[umbral adder]

what about ground?

or wisp on pult?

[ruby crest]

Wisp is cool tho I like multiple statuses instead of the same one for pult

It’d up to you

[umbral adder]

like wisp and twave on the same set?

wouldnt uturn be missing then?

[fierce basin]

Yup you've got switchins anyway you don't need to uturn

[umbral adder]

true

i just like pivots

[nimble swan]

can someone check my ou trick room team its a bit of an experiment

https://pokepast.es/78ead8c249c93136

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @west harbor, @forest magnet, @spiral fable, @green citrus, @fierce basin, @brisk cedar, @surreal kelp. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nimble swan]

whoa

[spiral fable]

Wrong channel

[fierce basin]

sorry

you said svou

so i sent you to the wrong place

[ruby crest]

.remove spidget as rater

[fierce basin]

[spiral fable]

[nimble swan]

whats the doubles one

[fierce basin]

uh this one i think

[quaint swan]

https://pokepast.es/7dcf44f8a97ade38, any advice? I am struggling against sun team so I want to know what change I can make

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/48be2500601f3ec2

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @west harbor, @forest magnet, @spiral fable, @green citrus, @fierce basin, @brisk cedar, @surreal kelp. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[sly mauve]

Hows my team

[grizzled mural]

What about Assault Vest Hatterene?

[hushed lynx]

I think AV Hat is useless. You can use hatterene for calm mind sets and if you're late game I guess you use healing wish so that your mons can have some hp to survive.

[grizzled mural]

Very interesting

I do also lack priority on my team but I think I can usually play around it

[grizzled mural]

Alright no disrespect man but the modifications you made to my team have just caused me to go 0-6 consecutively due to issues that the original team could handle

[spiral fable]

This team doesn’t seem to have any structure
You have a HO suicide lead in glimm, but then you built a super bulky team
Scarf exca isn’t good, especially an exca that doesn’t run spin
Unaware clef isn’t that good and you’d benefit much greater from a wish utility set
Vest Hgoodra isn’t good just run arch
No breakers or reliable hazard removal
I would recommend you run a sample for now

!gen9ousamples

[viral sable]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[spiral fable]

What are you doing 0-6 to

[grizzled mural]

I’m getting swept by HO and Bulky Offence

Initially I could handle it

I don’t seem to have the firepower I had initially

[spiral fable]

You have two forms of speed control and frankly if that’s not enough then idk what is

[spiral fable]

Banded roaring moon is the biggest nuke under sun you can get

Just make rmoon attack booster

[grizzled mural]

Well nothing’s changed about moon between my original team and the updated one

[grizzled mural]

I prefer a faster moon though

I can reasonably outspeed +1s on the opponent

[spiral fable]

You already have speed booster tusk and chloro venusaur you do not need more speed

[grizzled mural]

It’s my bias but the extra speed has won me many games previously

[spiral fable]

Then switch wake to a specs set and rmoon to a ddance set

[grizzled mural]

What item on rmoon then

[grizzled mural]

Specs booster speed im assuming

[spiral fable]

Bro what is up with you and booster speed everything

No spattack booster

[grizzled mural]

I need the speed man

I get outsped by every damn thing I’m supposed to check

[spiral fable]

If you somehow keep letting your opponent set up so many times you need 4 different versions of speed control

[grizzled mural]

Maybe I should go back to sticky webs

It’s not reasonable to fit webs on sun right

[spiral fable]

No it’s unreasonable

If you want webs go full webs

[grizzled mural]

How’s double lead HO or is that not viable in OU

I used a double lead in Ubers during DLC 1

[spiral fable]

That’s not viable

[grizzled mural]

Suicide lead HO then

[spiral fable]

Imo you don't need hatt when you have tusk, nor ghold to block
I would drop hatt for volc and ghold for either darkrai or special booster val, that's up to you

Fix the gambit evs as well idk why you have that specific stat spread

[fierce basin]

Do not use AV hatt, moves like hwish and cm are too valuable to give up

[chilly meadow]

https://pokepast.es/b3cfc62fe0eedd1c i know this my 3rd time posting in like 3 days but im rly tryna perfect my sun team and not use a sample team (not dissing im just stubborn but it does help to look @ them) , so, aaa yea, the evs are all funky because its funny (arcanine and tusk after rapid outspeeds anything with 125 base +spe naturei think maybe i did calcs wrong also proto defense because its funny, and anything they cant outspeed i can usually just swap into moltres or wake or arch), arch is there because i dont know what else to put there but its kinda doin work, wake has flip turn because i dont know what to use as the 4th move and terablast seems niche but im reconsidering it, so uhhh ya :) critique pleas

[brisk cedar]

Use the sun sample team, sun teams should usually have Torkoal, 3-4 of venusaur and the OU protosynthesis pokemon and Kingambit/Hatterene

[forest magnet]

Sun shouldn't be used in a balanced style as you arent fully abusing the full 8 turns of sun, and because you don't have the same/similar offensive tools to other sun teams, you get destroyed by them.

The whole "gimmick" of sun is it powers up certian mons up for 8 turns and you wanna abuse those 8 turns as much as possible. Going full sun offensive lets u abuse sun the most, as sun provides little to no defensive bonus.

Please don't post here if you won't accept our advice. Your team is all over the place as it just has random mons like Archaludon and Moltres on them which serve no further defensive purpose and makes you very weak to Iron Boulder.

Also don't post the same/similar team multiple times if it has been rated already. Thanks for your time and I hope this doesn't happen again.

[chilly meadow]

nah im looking for advice, i just dont like when the advice is "use the sample team" without anything else said, and its not the same team, either. its similar, but its got different stuff in it each time. im tryin to learn whats up and why my teams arent good, so that i can keep changing it to see if it works or if my change was bad

your initial message is insightful, i didnt know sun teams were meant to be hyper offensive so its good to know that now, thanks

[buoyant prawn]

https://pokepast.es/9185a55cdafff4ea need some fixes to my smeargle team

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @west harbor, @forest magnet, @spiral fable, @green citrus, @fierce basin, @brisk cedar, @surreal kelp. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[spiral fable]

When we say "use a sample team" we are recommending this so you can learn what a standard team structure would look like. It's a lot easier to learn how to team build if you have a good example to go off of, like a sample team, instead of repeatedly posting the same team.

[spiral fable]

i would recc sd dual wingbeat agility eq gliscor with tera flying
Arch doesn't fit on HO, drop it for serp with tera ground tera blast dpulse and sub
I would also drop enamorus for volc
Run air balloon and psyshock on ghold
Alternatively if you want another phys attacker you can drop enamorus for gouging fire/rmoon
(you can also drop boulder for one of these as well)

[chilly meadow]

like i said, its not the same team. i get samples are meant to show structure, but i dont know much about gen 9 ou let alone comp pokemon so im still trying to figure out whats going on and why teams should be structured a certain way, and just looking at and using a sample team doesnt explain that. i didnt know sun teams were meant to be hyper-off, like i said, so im glad i know that now and can structure a better team off of that advice.

[spiral fable]

But a sample team does explain that?

[buoyant prawn]

i really wanna use arch as it's been the most helpful for my team

[spiral fable]

It really doesn't fit but if you're insistent ig you can keep it

You blank hard into any ghost tho

[buoyant prawn]

im thinking more into BO than HO

[spiral fable]

That would require a full team shakeup

[buoyant prawn]

even smeargle?

[spiral fable]

Especially smeargle

[chilly meadow]

it really doesnt, im autistic so when i look at or use those samples, i dont understand why its put the way that it is

[buoyant prawn]

alright

as long as i can keep arch

[spiral fable]

Never run a suicide lead on a team that's not ho

[buoyant prawn]

arch works in BO right?

esp Body Press Arch

[spiral fable]

It's not bad but it does better on balanace

[buoyant prawn]

oop, then i would like to do a balance team with arch

sorry about that

[spiral fable]

I don't have the time to build balance from scratch, sorry, but there's a rain team sample with arch if you want to try it out
https://pokepast.es/53cd8d7b747d3c80

[buoyant prawn]

oh ok

not a fan of weather but lemme see if i can make a balance team again then i'll come back

[forest magnet]

let me get u a vid that might help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__d2mlyfjdQ

[chilly meadow]

hey i really appreciate this, thank you

<3

[jaunty lotus]

https://pokepast.es/a30fafab1a029300
Having some problems with archaludon, how do y'all deal with that guy? Tornadus-T is probably irregular but I'm having a lot of fun with it.

Otherwise, I'm p weak to ice and fairy but I haven't had a whole lot of trouble with that so far

[nimble swan]

https://pokepast.es/4821b4e9cb30b444

pwetty pwease rate its my first team

[brisk cedar]

Don't use berries, leftovers and heavy duty boots are better on every viable pokemon

Team lacks synergy, gliscor wants to be on boots spam without removers, iron boulder can't be effective here because of booster energy being one time use, nothing offensively forms a core while the defense is still lacking

Sets are generally poor, use sample sets

!gen9ousamples

[viral sable]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[nimble swan]

https://pokepast.es/3fe050f969eedcbf is this better

i thought zangoose could really thrive

IT WONT PUT THE RIGHT TEAM

finally

[spiral fable]

Zangoose isn't good in ou, don't try to use it

[delicate rover]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/commencement-roar-zamazenta-balance-ft-trapper-volcanion-peak-elo-2007-15.3734202/

dropped a new RMT with a team that peaked over 2000 if anyone wants to check it out :3

[velvet path]

https://pokepast.es/f2dbe1c95f8e4d51

[ruby crest]

This looks fine only thing I will suggest is prob put some speed on pex for hatterene

[forest magnet]

👍

[velvet path]

how much

[ruby crest]

it depends on u

U feel like u struggling with hatt go with a bit more speed then normal

[velvet path]

is this teams till fine if i make pex spdef

[ruby crest]

Yes

[fiery sapphire]

Hmmmm i wanna use flipturn primarina as a pivot mon but Im unsure of what partners would be good with it. Im thinking maybe heatran could be a good one. Anyone got any sample teams with flip turn primarina in them i could use to get a feel for the mon.

[ruby crest]

That’s better asked in #comp-general tho https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/teams-of-the-week-week-45-ft-archaludon-weavile-and-deoxys-speed.3712009/post-9908675 the team was featured in here

[quaint swan]

https://pokepast.es/a2eb0b214f59bc15

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @west harbor, @forest magnet, @spiral fable, @green citrus, @fierce basin, @brisk cedar, @surreal kelp. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/e564ad872e13a1d8

feels pretty good but then again im at low ladder

just want someone to look over it before i use it in tryouts

[ruby crest]

Dengo and bolt seem random tbh imo or rather unnecessary would rather see sd iron boulder > raging bolt, and sd kingambit > dengo, also make this bu speed booster tusk, also also u can do Tera dragon on volc to jab the plethora of dragons in the tier rn

[sly mauve]

alright thanks

[quick olive]

https://pokepast.es/7fc4e014102af0c4

hows the team looking

its really just a fun water/fire/grass core taken to the extreme

having some success

[sly mauve]

fire/water/grass is mostly a vgc thing iirc and its generally only 3 mons

you dont have any clear playstyle for your team

[quick olive]

aware of that

[sly mauve]

it just looks like a bunch of offensive pokemon thrown together

[quick olive]

its mainly a gimmicky fun team but it seems to work up to 1500

[sly mauve]

thats surprising

its missing alot of key pieces

[quick olive]

weather teams seem to be rising in popularity and it seems to work well enough against them

usually why it works

[lethal surge]

https://pokepast.es/38a12c01e3ec2f06 I want to see if there's any issues with this team

[quick olive]

i would personally tera grass on volc

to hit rocks harder i suppose

water is a better defensive typing but it could use extra power on giga drain

[lethal surge]

Anything else?

[quick olive]

and supercell slam on tusk?

you already have ice spinner for flying types

only use would be for like corv (not used anymore) or skarm (the better corv)

but you have volc to oko wither

either

and even if you dont

supercell slam is kinda bad

[lethal surge]

Mainly on water types

[quick olive]

a water would probably beat tusk either way

its not bulky tusk so it'd get oko'd by a strong water move

[lethal surge]

Ok then

[upper maple]

No Flying Type, No Hazards, No Knock Off, No Way of Beating Stall

[ocean pumice]

mbounce psyshock hatt:

[upper maple]

That isn't enough at all

[ocean pumice]

Its a pretty tough mu for stall

[upper maple]

Me when they can just tera

[ocean pumice]

OK what are you terastallizing into what

[upper maple]

Tera dark blissey

[ocean pumice]

U can't really just use "but terastallization!!!" as an argument

[upper maple]

I can

It's the generation's main mechanic

Tera dark/steel clodsire

Tera is also a very big thing for stall

[ocean pumice]

You force the tera and are free to threaten it with other stuff

[upper maple]

Except this can't do it that well

[ocean pumice]

After ~20% chip clod cant switch in on volc

Cause its a 2hko

[upper maple]

There are quite a lot of people that run both blissey and clod on the same team

So just tera blissey

[ocean pumice]

0 SpA Hatterene Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tera Steel Blissey: 236-278 (33 - 38.9%) -- 99.8% chance to 3HKO

[upper maple]

Do people run tera steel?

I've only been seeing tera dark

[upper maple]

Also blissey runs max def

0 SpA Hatterene Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Tera Steel Blissey: 111-131 (15.5 - 18.3%) -- possible 6HKO

0 SpA Hatterene Psyshock vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Tera Steel Blissey: 111-131 (17 - 20%) -- possible 5HKO

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/b4eb88d7af1e935f

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @west harbor, @forest magnet, @spiral fable, @green citrus, @fierce basin, @brisk cedar, @surreal kelp. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[sly mauve]

Hows this my team 🙂

[upper maple]

Don't use a suicide lead outside of HO

[hushed lynx]

https://pokepast.es/cc94b0af67690a28

So uh, I don't really feel good on this team. 3 of these mons is weak to fire type and I put tera water on dengo, can you guys give suggestions?

[spiral fable]

Please do not post a team that was already rated if you’re not going to listen to the advice given
Once again, don’t use a suicide lead on ho
This team structure is confusing and I don’t know what style you’re trying to go for
Once again, I would recommend you use a sample for now

!gen9ousamples

[viral sable]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[quaint swan]

https://pokepast.es/8d3629ce8cb4faa0

[fiery sapphire]

Hmmmm https://pokepast.es/0be5dccb65d21773 another attempt at making a team with spdef pivot primarina.

Now i was thinking of using serp > rillaboom and gouging fire > raging bolt

[spiral fable]

Ribombee isn’t a good webs setter, use smeargle
Run psyshock over focus blast on dengo with Tera flying
Imo drop enamorus it’s a Tera hog, you can run volc instead
You don’t need the speed of boulder, run gouging fire instead

[fiery sapphire]

Replaced raging bolt with gouging fire and decided to keep rilla for priority and extra pivoting.

[spiral fable]

Corv is not reliable hazard removal, I would recomend swapping lando to tusk(you can make this offense or defensive its up to you just keep rocks and spin), and drop defog on corv for body press

Also you might struggle with speed control since all you've got is priority

[fiery sapphire]

Anything else or is that all? Also keep raging bolt or replace it with gouging fire. I was also thinking of using serp > rilla.

[spiral fable]

Keep bolt you need priority

Watch out for rmoon, if corv goes down you're doomed

you can run idefense if you still struggle with rmoon

[fiery sapphire]

Ye tera fly acro will beat out zamazenta

Or I could just save for tera steel and hit it with stone edge

[spiral fable]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fiery sapphire]

Tera dark I dont think matches well against zama and tera fly is beaten by steel into stoneedge. Tera fly also doesnt like raging bolt priority.

Now keep rilla or use serp instead?

[fierce basin]

super farmed by volc, easiest and quickest fix is probably dnite over boulder, and I'd probably make ribombee tera steel so glimmora cant mortal spin your webs away. You could also make ghold bulkier to take advantage of webs. Team feels weak to kingambit so I'd either put low kick on your own gambit or replace it with a booster bulk up tusk

[spiral fable]

You’ve already had this team rated

Please stop reposting teams with minor(or no) changes, since all advice we would give would be the same as the original rate

[minor laurel]

https://pokepast.es/a688ccc5804157f9 me and my friends are doing a steel types only tournament and i was wondering if i could get some feedback on my team thanks in advance!

[viral sable]

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[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/ad9019be7f2df4d9

[forest magnet]

scrap the team right now and go with a sample please

[forest magnet]

We don't deal with arbitrary rules, try the monotype thread. also i would suggest Low Kick gambit over grass knot

[minor laurel]

ah okay, thanks for checking it out have a good one

[sly mauve]

How do i use it

[spiral fable]

!gen9ousamples

[viral sable]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[sly mauve]

Yes

In game

I mean

[spiral fable]

?

[minor laurel]

copy the export and import it

[sly mauve]

Open with torkoal

[minor laurel]

into team builder

[sly mauve]

I have that done

[spiral fable]

https://pokepast.es/7d0b44bff29d2ad1

A: use this team

B: lead torkoal, then switch to sweeper and sweep

[forest magnet]

go to the rate my team thread and look for mono type, i think they could give u better advice on a steel only team

[upper maple]

Grass knot gambit when it's steel types only

[minor laurel]

i know someone who’s running tera water corvi

so

[sly mauve]

Ok

[forest magnet]

+2 gambit kowtow does more

[fierce root]

Anyone got an archuladon team ?

[ruby crest]

Ask in #comp-general

[quick olive]

not the most awful tbf

fire coverage is more common that electric

although its certainly not the best

[stone dagger]

https://pokepast.es/9570d6b603f15686 made my first stall team

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @west harbor, @forest magnet, @spiral fable, @green citrus, @fierce basin, @brisk cedar, @surreal kelp. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

this isn't stall

[spiral fable]

Pecharunt doesn't work on stall, you're lacking the stall staples(blissey and dozo), hamurott is not a stall mon, nor is ghold, and corv isn't very reliable either. Furthermore, stall in general in gen 9 isn't the best, and it's much better to run semi stall. I would recommend you use a sample right now, especially HighVoltag3's semi stall team with meowscarada

!gen9ousamples

[viral sable]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[spiral fable]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/meowscarada-semi-stall-peaked-1-2112-elo-87-8-gxe.3733117/
this one

[ruby crest]

ghold is indeed a stall mon but yeh this isnt stall fwiw

[spiral fable]

nah ghold never fits on stall anymore

Way too many threats to handle and you need the slot for better walls

[ruby crest]

im just built different then

[spiral fable]

tyson is HIM

[stone dagger]

Oh oops

What would u classify that as

Just gimmicky?

[ruby crest]

bo

or like a weird balance

[spiral fable]

weird balance

[thin prairie]

https://pokepast.es/a6d4d3d6c58ead76 hazard stack kind of

ice spinner > sr on tusk

[spiral fable]

why in gods name are you using banded darkrai

[ruby crest]

i dont like that darkai set u are just asking to struggle against tusk, gliscor, skarmory

[thin prairie]

mu fishing

[forest magnet]

seems a bit weak to gouging fire

[thin prairie]

think about it like like like

blissey

natural cure

[forest magnet]

please don't

[thin prairie]

trust

then i hit em with a focus punch

[ruby crest]

blissey is like the least of ur worries

on paper it sounds cool

[forest magnet]

please don't this isn't adv

[ruby crest]

but blissey is already not super common

[thin prairie]

ok maybe the set is ass

[ruby crest]

and for the times u dont face blissey u have a mon that already isnt doing a lot of damage against mons that would fear it just take advantage of it once they figure out what u are

even then

darkrai doesnt fit here

[thin prairie]

if i were to swap it out

probably wake

then go band pult

maybe even sun team if i wanted

[ruby crest]

u would need a massive tweak if u were to do sun tbh

[spiral fable]

No protect on gliscor is wack, choice band darkari is really bad, you have no set up sweepers to abuse the spikes, idk why your ghold doesn't have nasty plot, why is your gliscor full attack, no speed control, and this team falls to any set up special sweeper since clef cant do anything to them
I would recommend you run a sample for now

!gen9ousamples

[viral sable]

Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/

[thin prairie]

if i saw a team like that id recommend samples too

i just wna run band darkrai fr

[grizzled mural]

https://pokepast.es/60c2ccc8e990ca04

HO

[forest magnet]

sash lead glimm or samu over av samu

other than that pretty soild

[grizzled mural]

Samu over samu?

I don’t follow

[forest magnet]

i said sash lead

[grizzled mural]

Ah

[forest magnet]

so samu + sash

[grizzled mural]

Sash Samu you mean

[forest magnet]

correct

"sash lead glimm or samu"

sorry if that was a bit weirdly worded lol

[grizzled mural]

Why not av then, I’ve seen it work well previously

[grizzled mural]

Nah just a minor misunderstanding don’t take it personally

[forest magnet]

because with HO u wanna just get ur hazards up asap and leave

also phys threats like rillaboom can just kill samu if its not sashed

[grizzled mural]

Aight

Any notable weaknesses?

Val is my cleanup

Moon is my wallbreaker

DeoS to pick off weaker mons

[forest magnet]

a bit weak to stall

[grizzled mural]

I’ll have to push harder then

[forest magnet]

let me get some changes for you

[grizzled mural]

Unaware Clef I can probably kill if do Tera steel iron head on moon

But acro’s massive power isn’t something I can drop

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/65245cc531efc710

@grizzled mural

[grizzled mural]

Interesting

I’ll experiment with both

And see which I can do better with

I’m not a fan of sub sd on Boulder though

[hushed lynx]

question, would tera water volcarona be good?

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/c1b17844e2f7931d

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @west harbor, @forest magnet, @spiral fable, @green citrus, @fierce basin, @brisk cedar, @surreal kelp. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[sly mauve]

Sun team

[near dagger]

https://pokepast.es/36794a62a705d2be unfinished but i want to know what else would be good to add/ remove and anything else, im pretty new to competetive so anything helps.

[upper maple]

This thread or whatever it's called is for full teams

[near dagger]

Oh oops

[forest magnet]

not enough power

WORSTDAY (Roaring Moon) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Outrage
• Knock Off
• Iron Head
• U-turn

^ make moon this

u get. an atk

boost in the sun

[ruby crest]

You pinged the wrong team

[spiral fable]

ah fck

[spiral fable]

I don't know why you insist on having two scarfed mons when you really don't need that much speed control
Switch tusk to a speed booster set with Bulk up
Switch moon to a banded set with proto synth attack
Drop wake for eject button hatterene with nuzzle and healing wish
And I would personally drop gouging for raging bolt lefties cm but that's up to you

[fierce basin]

We only rate finished teams sorry

[strange wraith]

oh

alr ty

[strange wraith]

https://pokepast.es/f971ea5085023b98

there

i finished it

hooray

[upper maple]

What is this team supposed to be

Balance or smth?

[strange wraith]

idk

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/47a338dc08012dc7

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @west harbor, @forest magnet, @spiral fable, @green citrus, @fierce basin, @brisk cedar, @surreal kelp. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[spiral fable]

Ok so half your team isn’t in ou

[sly mauve]

ik

[spiral fable]

You know that mons aren’t ou for a reason right?

[sly mauve]

Lower usage rates

[spiral fable]

Yes

Because they aren’t as good in the tier