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[forest magnet]

also resists flying

[quasi compass]

ok sounds good

what do I do abt the scarf tusk tho

[forest magnet]

real one (Great Tusk) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 180 Def / 76 Spe
Impish Nature

• Ice Spinner
• Earthquake
• Knock Off
• Rapid Spin

Great Tusk @ Leftovers
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Atk / 76 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Rapid Spin
• Headlong Rush
• Close Combat
• Head Smash

or more offensive

[quasi compass]

ok ty

what's my speed ctrl on the team tho?

like how do I counter something like sd bax

[forest magnet]

u don't

yeah team is pretty bax weak

[forest magnet]

save tera on tusk

[quasi compass]

aight

fair enough

[wild jungle]

https://pokepast.es/2c7c4341c4b327ec

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

kingambit = over

[ruby crest]

This thread is for completed teams first tho minikyu and honestly ceruledge are random here tbh

[wild jungle]

Who should I add?

[fallen shale]

How dare you not be online 24/7
https://pokepast.es/6b1a0ed5dd49abeb

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

no speed controll, nothing faster than pult besisdes val but pult will be coming in multiple times

also kinda random/extreme sets/items on you pokemon

https://pokepast.es/8772e57f5d62f443

here is the new team, I just changed items, sets.

but i don't really like mixed def gold on your team

[fallen shale]

Thank you

[forest magnet]

we call make mistakes

[fallen shale]

I assume this was just a tiny oversight

Yeah

Ty

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/b1e571d59831309a

[forest magnet]

it was the new heat :(

[burnt hill]

https://pokepast.es/bfb6cfc657fb1135

Need help with my rain team

[drowsy patrol]

i made this team in 5 min dont judge to hard https://pokepast.es/6d65fe4d43edc4be

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/c83b00d89babdd9a do i run tusk or bax?

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[fallow crag]

tusk, and i'd make the samurott scarf

theres some ev optimization you could also do, but that info is on the strategy dex

[unreal plaza]

https://pokepast.es/03edf1d73e071318

Roast this ho team I built

[fallen shale]

Replace kilo for zapdos
Get rid of overqwil for iron treads

You dont want to rely on peli to defog

its also a good pivoter

[burnt hill]

Ok should it be an offensive or defensive zapados and what’s a good iron treads moveset

[fallen shale]

actually now that im thinking about it killowattrel may have advantages i forgot it gets volt absorb

[fallen shale]

252 hp 252+ spe volt switch rapid spin, probably earthquake and stealth rock

but since you are using glimmora you might want to use something else instead of sr

[burnt hill]

Knock off ok?

[fallen shale]

yeah sure

[burnt hill]

Okie dokie thank you

[fallen shale]

Im just not too sure about the matchup vs samurott your team has

Zapdos is probably better over kilo if you struggle w it too much, 252 hp 252 spatk zapdos can probably pad it

[burnt hill]

Samurott hasn’t been too bad but yeah he can arise as an issue

[fallen shale]

Also you might want to consider a non rain scarfer over glimmora and sr on treads

[burnt hill]

Yeah zapados sounds like a better option

[fallen shale]

Dragapult can be an issue

You dont have much against it

Oh wait kingambit nvm

[burnt hill]

I don’t have a kinggambit

I have iron jugs

Who would be a good scarfer

@fallen shale

[fallen shale]

good question

Iron valiant or enamorus are solid choices

you can also try thundurus

[forest magnet]

[forest magnet]

[forest magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[fallen shale]

fym nuh uh

[forest magnet]

nuh uh

🤓 me personally i disagree

[fallen shale]

Your opinion is probably more educated than mine so feel free to ping the guy

[burnt hill]

https://pokepast.es/f53f6a8da69c6f8d trick room team I’m pretty new to using tr in singles

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

i sleep

[strong vapor]

https://pokepast.es/b5726c2325227c3d

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[brisk frigate]

Please suggest improvements wherever possible
https://pokepast.es/7e927956833416f2

[forest magnet]

this is not an rmt

thats when you discribe things in smogon forums

[brisk frigate]

Ah got it. I still do request improvements wherever possible in that team, though. How can I do that?

[forest magnet]

you can just post the link here, but don't call it an rmt

rmt rates are usually more in depth

[forest magnet]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/forums/sv-ou-teams.748/

[brisk frigate]

Okay, I'll just not call it a RMT.

Let me remove it

[forest magnet]

some whacky sets, mons don't really mesh together and clodsire sacs to much momentum

[forest magnet]

yeah please, its alright tho

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/f050b66c5ad86e1a

[brisk frigate]

Which mon do you recommend I replace Clodsire with? I was looking at Dondozo myself as I felt the same too, but sometimes Clodsire simply helped so much with its bulk that I felt it was too valuable.

[forest magnet]

here some improvments

[brisk frigate]

Ah, thanks

[forest magnet]

np

i'll explain the changes if needed

[brisk frigate]

Can you please explain Amoonguss?

As in, which meta threats is it countering?

I can see it being very useful in general though.

[forest magnet]

i think i worked on this team before, but i now realize that val isn't really good on this team

i'm thinking that a specs would be good as that would server as a cleaner late game or a spa set to hit dozo better

[forest magnet]

oh sure

it forces heavy attackers out (eg basculegion), offers more support in spore, forms a double regen core, isn't weak to ground, is a damage sponge (knock off) because your other mons don't wanna loose their items

[brisk frigate]

Got it, thanks for the help

[forest magnet]

np, just make sure to read the rules before posting

[leaden lance]

Great Tusk @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Knock Off
• Headlong Rush
• Close Combat
• Rapid Spin

Clodsire @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Water Absorb
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature

• Toxic
• Spikes
• Recover
• Earthquake

Garganacl @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Clear Body
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature

• Iron Defense
• Earthquake
• Salt Cure
• Recover

Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature

• Body Press
• Brave Bird
• Defog
• Roost

Samurott-Hisui @ Focus Sash
Ability: Sharpness
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Ceaseless Edge
• Razor Shell
• Knock Off
• Sucker Punch

Dragapult
Ability: Clear Body
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Dragon Dance
• Dragon Darts
• Phantom Force
• Substitute

[leaden lance]

rate pls 🙏

[ruby crest]

can u use pokepaste its a lot easier for raters to get access to the team and also doesnt "flood" chat

[leaden lance]

what's that?

https://pokepast.es/e09f5f12c3223a7c

here you go!

[viral sable]

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[ruby crest]

question where u trying to go for hazard steam or simply not sure

[leaden lance]

what's hazard steam?

[ruby crest]

like a team that benefits from double hazards

[leaden lance]

I tried to, yes

[leaden lance]

I wasn't focussing on it though

[ruby crest]

so ur fine without it

[ruby crest]

make this defensive rocks tusk > offensive, amoong > clod, curse garg > id, bu taunt corv defog, specs enam > h samu, and cb pult > dd

[leaden lance]

what are you saying

😵‍💫

[ruby crest]

let me say it much more simpler terms make ur great tusk a defensive set with stealth rocks instead of the offensive set you have, replace clodsire with amoonguss, make garganacl a curse set instead of iron defense set, make corv be bulk up and taunt instead of defog , reaplce hisuian samurott with specs enamorus, and change the set for dragapult into choice band instead of dragon dance

this clears up a lot of stuff?

[leaden lance]

yep!

I'll try later maybe

making two new teams right now

so I have some variety

https://pokepast.es/ac4336bedb4f2d16

[nocturne dagger]

tera blast electric on sandy shocks is pointless

[leaden lance]

oh true

[nocturne dagger]

attacking clodsire is also super super weird

[woven venture]

yo is Sucker4FightingMeat an acceptable title for an RMT post or should i come up with a better team name

[vocal crystal]

Been gone for a while (again), so I'm a bit unfamiliar with the current meta. Anyways, name says it all:
https://pokepast.es/5ca59b4f48d9e0e5

I'm changing hydreigon's tera to steel btw cuz the few matches I've tried I keep running into issues against poison, still won but it's enough to make me want to change

[forest magnet]

I don't mean to be rude

but there is somthing called roaring moon

[vocal crystal]

Lmao

Dw I'm not that good

I'm running physical specifically because everyone just assumes it's special

[forest magnet]

i'll rate u in a min i gotta unpack stuff

just came back from a trip

[vocal crystal]

[forest magnet]

alr bac

[forest magnet]

your team is kinda clapped by sandy shocks, and some goofy sets

lemme make some changes

[vocal crystal]

I forgot that thing even exists

I haven't run into any yet

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/333de58524f5c48a

improved team, i don't really know what to do with heatran tho

offensive is good for more firepower but defensive is also good

test sum and text me back

[vocal crystal]

Bet

[vocal crystal]

Team kinda slaps, now I just gotta get better

[forest magnet]

what does slaps mean lmao

[vocal crystal]

As in it's pretty good

[forest magnet]

oh i thought it meant its ass

[vocal crystal]

Lol no u good

[burnt hill]

https://pokepast.es/82a03ee4298f3b0f ou TR team I need some advice please

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[ruby crest]

Make all of these mons 0 speed ivs be slow as possible, do Tera dark and black glasses on gambit, make cress tr with mental herb, and replace hatt with a tr gking

[burnt hill]

Who is gking?

[ruby crest]

Galarian slowking

[burnt hill]

Okie dokie

What type of move set should I run an assault vesterwor hdb

[ruby crest]

Hdb, tho weakness berries are also usable to minigate damage and get a tr up

[burnt hill]

Okie dokie

https://pokepast.es/001012feb7f6887b how this

@ruby crest

[ruby crest]

Make cress tr support don’t make it cm stored power stuff, and also don’t forget the 0 ivs in speed in all the mons

also do psychic > surf on gking

[burnt hill]

What moves should Cres have

[ruby crest]

Tr moonlight lunar dance last move can be what you want cress to hit tbh could be a psychic move, moonblast, ice beam

[burnt hill]

Ok thank you

[wet cape]

https://pokepast.es/080569f6d82a3485 Defensive Gholdengo Balance

[lament niche]

https://pokepast.es/f56eae8434884087 got fake reqs for gambit sus with this (i did it in the wrong account, dwdwdr instead of my sus account) i may as well share this

[austere field]

https://pokepast.es/ec23631be10fd67a any good ideas for remaining team members

[forest magnet]

please only post complete teams here

[forest magnet]

I would say to swap Bax for pivot or scarf meow.

Meow offers knock and alot of coverage

which hazard stack teams really like

https://pokepast.es/8cd8c3fff3ea12cd

I made some changes to the team

[austere field]

[forest magnet]

rules rules

[austere field]

https://pokepast.es/a5e38b3f877304b6

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[austere field]

Do you have any thoughts on what should be replaced in this team?

[forest magnet]

please don't do this

come back with the last 3 members and i'll rate it

[austere field]

It’s a full team

I put the last 3 members

Do you want me to fill it with random actual sets?

[ruby crest]

Can we not troll please, if you want some insight of what to complete a team ask around in #comp-general

[forest magnet]

thx tyson

[silk valve]

thoughts on my team?
https://pokepast.es/08a8d4872dee7681

[forest magnet]

weird sets and items, no team synergy

[spiral fable]

no swords dance on gambit is weird, especially since you replaced it with brick break?
iron head over icicle crash on bax is wild
offensive slowbro is not good idk what you're cooking with that
not running boots on dnite is insane, especially since you have no hazard removal
why is dragon claw and dragon tail there, what are you trying to hit? other dragons?
if you want to pull acrobatics shenanigans just run white herb instead
sash cinderace in itself is bad because hazards ruins it and then you have iron head on it for some reason?

[silk valve]

The bad moves make the team kinda unpredictable so I just threw in some random moves but the iron head on bax is for fairies

[spiral fable]

The two fairies of valiant and enamorus, the former of which dies to any hit from a boosted bax and the latter of which dies to icicle crash anyways

[silk valve]

Ok

[spiral fable]

And there’s a fine line between off meta and bad, and you’re leaning the latter

For example, iron head on cinderace is basically useless since pyro ball does the job anyways and you could use that spot for like court change, which you desperately need for hazards

Dragon stab on dnite isn’t that good considering you want to spam extreme speed anyways and eq/thunder or fire punch offers better coverage

Alternatively roost allows you to be extra annoying

[silk valve]

What about pult

?

[spiral fable]

Eq usually gets the job done, unless you’re out sped by it in which case you’re either getting burned or eating a Draco to the face anyways

[drowsy patrol]

someone can tell me what to improve https://pokepast.es/8ceedb3ced0a640d

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[uncut flare]

https://pokepast.es/b871c59bb579e72a

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[uncut flare]

i feel like the sets may be a bit outdated but specs valiant catches people off guard, tera ground bax is heat for getting cruical kills with eq, and eject pack has won me so many games just sucks when facing lando

[wind dew]

https://pokepast.es/75e38b608b991de3

i havent done a team since long ago idk what you think

[forest magnet]

you are running sub dd bax

but there is no support

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/4db0ce794ea041d5

made some changes

idk how i feel about enamorus tho

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/7b62cfd990faa77b

I just made some changes to tusk, hits lando better

[forest magnet]

bro tera ground is not heat

also changed some tera types

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/375a735e0ce13325

i replaced shocks with mewo

*meow

pult over gold

and other changes

[wind dew]

Oh

👀👀👀

Looks cool

Ty

[mossy acorn]

I don’t understand this what’s it supposed to do?

[forest magnet]

please delete this message and post the pokepaste link

[uncut flare]

i’ll try it out and see how i like it. Tera fairy on bax is probably much better but i like running tera ground because i’m an idiot

[forest magnet]

oops

i fogot

run fairy

its much better

trust me

[mossy acorn]

Ok

[uncut flare]

I do also do you think specs pult is better than specs valiant for this team build

[mossy acorn]

https://pokepast.es/def710dea64e0d3f

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

yeah

speed > power

[forest magnet]

i'll rate once i come back from lunch

[mossy acorn]

Ok

I need help figuring out how to use it

It was randomized by pokeaim based on viable sets for scarvi ou

https://pokepast.es/53c8f75d738f545c if not then how do I use this

[uncut flare]

also can you explain the tusk spread for when i use it

[ruby crest]

This is honestly a samples moment there is a lot of unviable mons here that have no place in ou or just straight up outclassed

[mossy acorn]

The ou?

The other?*

[mossy acorn]

.

[ruby crest]

A lot better at least tho some sets are just odd tbh

Like what does the ev for tusk even do

[mossy acorn]

U talking about the randomly generated one?

I can change evs

[ruby crest]

Also yeah don’t do that about randomly generated teams, it defeats the purpose of creating ur own team and also u will occasionally get some out of the ordinary stuff

[mossy acorn]

But I’m not good at creating teams except pure hackmons

Bc baton pass is banned

In regular

[ruby crest]

Then get to learn the tier

[mossy acorn]

Or just copy teams from pokepaste

https://pokepast.es/53c8f75d738f545c this is a sample I think, it good?

[ruby crest]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ou-sample-teams.3712513/ these are sample teams and don’t resend them here cause as stated before it goes against sending your own teams

[mossy acorn]

So where do I get help on HOW to play my team?

[forest magnet]

this is a rate my team section

if you need help on how, dm me

i'll be glad to help

[mossy acorn]

Ok:$

:)*

[burnt hill]

https://pokepast.es/79ce8bdcd532560e any suggestions for my sand team

[forest magnet]

don't use your kingambit set, use scarf glimm instead bc it fits better on a sand team

tusk set kinda random

[burnt hill]

What would you recommend with tusk

And who should I swap gambit for @forest magnet

[forest magnet]

a bulk-up set

[forest magnet]

swap the set

[burnt hill]

Ok what about tusk

[forest magnet]

i just said a bulkup set

[burnt hill]

Sorry I meant kinggambit

[forest magnet]

Kingambit @ Leftovers
Ability: Supreme Overlord
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Swords Dance
• Low Kick
• Kowtow Cleave
• Sucker Punch

low kick can be changed

[fallen shale]

I find iron head to be much better for breaking tusk

Unless you really want to win the gambit 1v1 id stick w ih

[random wolf]

Low Kick is 120 BP vs Tusk
Unless they're Tera Fairy or something it's doing the same damage as Iron Head

[fallen shale]

Tera fairy is what i run into the most

Surprisingly not water

[elder hamlet]

This has been my first attempt at actually building a team. Its a really fragile team but i feel as though any other options I add dont actually really add much to the team. any tips? https://pokepast.es/abdf09620ee4d0d5

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[forest magnet]

i'll be there in a hurryyy

[forest magnet]

what do u want to improve?

[elder hamlet]

Ive been having trouble with some walls. Specfically Clodsire. I only JUST added Baxcalibur to the team to try and deal with it

otherwise my games have been less than stellar. Id say i probably have like a <40% winrate

Im mostly looking for people to spot holes in my team that I can fill or play around

that maybe i dont notice when i battle

[forest magnet]

alr

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/e9f9265fd622e410

[elder hamlet]

Ill give this a try. Im Noticing this team doesnt really have a specific lead, or would I just start with Slowking most of the time

If you dont mind me asking, what is the philosophy behind these changes

[forest magnet]

??

what chu on

samurott is your lead

it has sash so it can take max 2 hits

[elder hamlet]

Right im tired

[forest magnet]

get up hazards with ceasless edge

[elder hamlet]

my bad

[forest magnet]

its alr

[forest magnet]

well slowking adds much more bulk, a better clodsire check and chilly reception

chilly is really good bc bax gets a defence boost in the snow

so thats why i ran sub bax

bc its harder to break sub

and immune to some status moves

[elder hamlet]

Thanks for you help!

[forest magnet]

np

[fierce basin]

You prob don't need cinderace with a suicide lead hazard stacker

[fiery sapphire]

https://pokepast.es/2dacb7e4c9d29101 how is this?

Hmmm would dragapult be a better spin blocker than gholdengo here

[nocturne ether]

https://pokepast.es/c53dbf52675df2be

im sorry this is my first ou team

i hope someone could help

[fallen shale]

This isnt exactly bad

But there arent many synnergies

Also you get completely demolished by enamorus

I cant give much advice but probably swap out zoroark for a dedicated special wall

Chilly reception 252 hp 252 spd galarian slowking is a good option i think

@nocturne ether

[forest magnet]

bro

i don't mean to be rude but please let me do it

[forest magnet]

still weak to enam

[fallen shale]

not only is this not your personal channel of residence, i said something because no one else did. unnecessary comment even if my advice is not the best

[forest magnet]

i'm sorry, i just didn't want them to get the wrong suggestion/idea

[nocturne ether]

im here

hey, its fine, i have no problem getting help from 2 people

[forest magnet]

what would u like to improve on this team (what is weak)

or should i just make general improvements

[nocturne ether]

im not sure if i built a good one or not, im new to the tier ahh

i can replace mons yes

i want to get to know how to build teams in this tier better

so i'll have an idea

[forest magnet]

oh alr

well zoro is kinda inconsistent

pretty much a 50/50 every time

[nocturne ether]

i thought zoro pairs well with gholdengo

[forest magnet]

thats good but the better players get, the harder it becomes to illusion

[forest magnet]

both weak to dark

[nocturne ether]

tbh thats what was in the

analysis

)

[nocturne ether]

ah

[forest magnet]

imma make some changes and then i'll explain them too you

*to

[nocturne ether]

oh thank you matte

[forest magnet]

np

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/bd51980f75581db0

I made some set changes and swapped out zoro for moltres

moltres is a good mixed wall as flamebody allows it to have a chance of burning on contact so you can punish u-turn

[nocturne ether]

ah

baxcalib?

[forest magnet]

and also now a check to enam and val (no thunderbolt)

[forest magnet]

oh yeah

its much better than moon

moon gives speed

[nocturne ether]

i thought roaring moon was there to counter baxcalib

[forest magnet]

ice shard from bax rips up moon

[nocturne ether]

the analysis

is messed up

real bad

[forest magnet]

its good

just a bit outdated bc home and new sets

[nocturne ether]

ah yeah, apologies if i disturbed you!

and thanks!

[forest magnet]

np

[forest magnet]

yeah, i think the added offence from pult is really good

[fiery sapphire]

Hmmm specs or a different set

[forest magnet]

specs or utility

[fiery sapphire]

Is the utility set, screens?

[forest magnet]

no

wisp, u-turn, hex and darts

[gentle flower]

Tried Specs Hatterene
https://pokepast.es/126d8bb84e4c5d71

[hasty dune]

Heya! Was trying to make a balanced offense team for Greninja and was wondering how I could improve it.

https://pokepast.es/9274bd894f290145 Gen9OU

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/379e5f89518cdda7

here

i feel like ting lu is better bc its greater bulk

court change on cinderace bc u have no hazard removal

and i made kingambit more offensive

[hasty dune]

Ahh okay

I was gonna avoid court change, because I thought having stealth rock and spikes up would hurt me too much

But with Ting Lu I think it works better

[forest magnet]

true, but in game you don't have hazards up then court change is good

[hasty dune]

Alrighty

[forest magnet]

tbh just run low kick if u really don't wanna use court change

[hasty dune]

Would offensive Kingambit work good? I thought having a bulky switch in would be good.

But I kinda do already have 3 of them

[forest magnet]

ting-lu serves as the bulky switchin now

[hasty dune]

Ahh okay

[forest magnet]

also with gren, you wanna rip things apart to sweep with gambit

[ruby crest]

Imma be real I don’t think u need gambit here tbh

[forest magnet]

lmao i'm dumb

[hasty dune]

True

[ruby crest]

You already have a bulky dark in ting Lu and and offensive dark in gren and u just stacking a lot of stuff here making this team struggle more with iron Vals and enams having to cope with ace and amoong

[forest magnet]

maybe add scarf sneasler? pivot + chip

[hasty dune]

Yeah that does make sense

He could've been there with Garchomp, but with Ting Lu I'd have 3 dark types

[forest magnet]

i love the heat here but some sets arent really good

idk what direction to go in bc i don't know what is ok to change

do u wanna keep all mons?

[past night]

https://pokepast.es/73b866cceb50ccf5

[ruby crest]

Ehh a different speed control imo

[past night]

Hello there, just looking to see if anyone can thing of a way to improve the team a bit, or swap out a mon that would have a catchy MK name

Works up to 1500 and is pretty fun

[ruby crest]

Actually not even speed control it should be a zappy

[hasty dune]

My bad, but what are speed controls and zappys?

Would speed control be a priority user? And zappy is Zapdos?

[forest magnet]

zappy is dapdos

speed controll is somthing fast

[hasty dune]

ahh okay

[forest magnet]

? val still deals with it pretty well

[forest magnet]

what is a MK name

[past night]

Oh Mortal Kombat

[hasty dune]

Oh cool

I love MK

Maybe I could help

[past night]

Take a look!

https://pokepast.es/73b866cceb50ccf5

[forest magnet]

idk what u cookin man

[past night]

Lmfao

[forest magnet]

some sets are a bit wacky

[ruby crest]

I mean it’s fine cause we have bulky ace and amoong but doing gambit would’ve been less ideal

[forest magnet]

oops forgot

[forest magnet]

could you help @past night

so many ppl to rate i'll rate the other persons

[ruby crest]

What’s an MK team ?

[fierce basin]

Mortal kombat

[ruby crest]

Oh

[forest magnet]

like theme nicknames ig

[past night]

I would but I’m not a mod or anything

I’m just a dude

[forest magnet]

wasn't talking to u

(sorry if that came off rude)

[past night]

My beee

[forest magnet]

nah u good

[nocturne ether]

https://pokepast.es/784b08c6b63a9a52

@forest magnet did i mess this team up

[forest magnet]

quite indeed

[nocturne ether]

wow

[nocturne ether]

(i knew it, i didnt know what to put in

i just went through the weaknesses

[forest magnet]

thats a good start

[nocturne ether]

oh?

i think i messed up at the last part

[forest magnet]

well the teambuilding process

[forest magnet]

i would say look for pokemon weaknesses

like sandy shocks

you have a ground immune

but its weak to t-bolt

[austere field]

https://pokepast.es/1f163ff9f0982a1d

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[austere field]

Anyone have advice for this team?

[gentle flower]

Not especially cuz I get I'm only a low ladder player

[steep garden]

https://pokepast.es/a16244a2cba2fc75 thoughts on this build for bulky offensive zammazenta bp team?

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[nocturne ether]

ah

@forest magnet im sorry im back

lmk when you're here

[sly mauve]

rmt https://pokepast.es/5d9928cae50960ce

[nocturne ether]

https://pokepast.es/f6f01c65ebad40ab (stall)

i love

stall

double regen + hex durge

[spiral fable]

Valiant seems to be a big problem for your team

Tbolt beats mola pex corv, shadow ball beats dirge, and it’s stabs cover the remaining two mons

[forest magnet]

wait the lead is kinda heat

[spiral fable]

The rand bat set goes wild ngl

[forest magnet]

good job :) please take care of him

[nocturne ether]

hher

[nocturne ether]

ah

[spiral fable]

Also tusk doesn’t really fit in here

You always want to minimize the amount of mons that don’t have semi reliable/reliable healing

[nocturne ether]

tusk was the spinner

[spiral fable]

Just run 6 boots

[nocturne ether]

ah

[forest magnet]

cool team (haha bc ice type) but its very val weak. moth is the only resist and booster val with physhock or phys val kinda vaporizes your team

[nocturne ether]

what do you suggest i should do

@

[sly mauve]

yep everytime val comes out i have to sack something so i can mblast it

if it tera fairys im kinda dead

[forest magnet]

stall is my opp now

[sly mauve]

what do i change

[forest magnet]

yeah but thats a speed tie

[nocturne ether]

stall is

cool

[forest magnet]

well i'm looking at ur team rn so thinkin abt it

[spiral fable]

As a proponent of big stall tm this is slander

[spiral fable]

Hazards aren’t really an issue for stall so I’d recommend blissey

[sly mauve]

since it went first last turn dont i win the speed tie or is that not a thing

[forest magnet]

I HATE STALL

[spiral fable]

You need more special walls

[forest magnet]

nuh uh

[spiral fable]

I LOVE 600 TURN GAMES

[nocturne ether]

me too

i agree

100%

[forest magnet]

whats ur elo

[spiral fable]

Like 1500 rn?

[nocturne ether]

ah

i did add that

[forest magnet]

bc i swear mfs be making 500 turn games for 4 elo

[nocturne ether]

but then i removed it

[spiral fable]

Also brave bird on corv is

[forest magnet]

oh i would say run scarf sneasler insead of pult

faster + good cleaner

[sly mauve]

what the nuts

[forest magnet]

?

forces tera or kills

[spiral fable]

Not the best? If you’re really worried about hazards I’d recommend defog instead, or iron defense if you’re feeling spicy and want to do body press shenanigans

[sly mauve]

draco meteor is like a godsend tho so idk

[forest magnet]

kid named bax

[forest magnet]

how to counter val then?

[nocturne ether]

ah i get you

[sly mauve]

hmm

[forest magnet]

you have to tera

[sly mauve]

ill try scarf sneasler

[forest magnet]

alr

[nocturne ether]

so first off i just boot tusk

[forest magnet]

i'll send u the paste

[nocturne ether]

and make it blissey

[spiral fable]

Yeah he just isn’t bringing much

[forest magnet]

also love the heat lead

[spiral fable]

Yeah just a special wall

With reliable recovery

[nocturne ether]

Ptolemaea (Blissey) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Natural Cure
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Shadow Ball
• Calm Mind
• Soft-Boiled
• Heal Bell

[spiral fable]

Heal bell ain’t on blissey

And you want seismic toss

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/9b05384639ce0ca7

[ruby crest]

this is a very solid start already, dont think u need hoopa u here and can do with a kingambit instead this also gives you a steel, make zama tera dark, gknot > psychic on enam, and make this physdef rocks tusk, also some things you can do is discharge > heat wave on zappy and u turn > vs, and colbur berry > hdb on gking to not get super screwed against sd iron vals

[forest magnet]

@ruby crest u typin up a storm

[forest magnet]

help has arrived!!

[nocturne ether]

Blissey @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Natural Cure
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Soft-Boiled
• Calm Mind
• Stealth Rock
• Seismic Toss

[spiral fable]

Uh maybe want 252 hp instead of spdef not sure what Tera dark is there for

[nocturne ether]

Corviknight (F) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 248 HP / 140 Def / 120 Spe
Impish Nature

• Iron Head
• Body Press
• Iron Defense
• Roost

these sets

are from the sample

teams

i have it stored in copypasta

[spiral fable]

Maybe uturn over iron head

[sly mauve]

yeah i thought grimmsnarl is kind of a momentum sink, azelf doesnt rlly do anything other than rocks, but froslass pops spikes off and twaves/dbonds so its a pretty heat suicide lead, also spinproof

[forest magnet]

yeah

i was gonna say chage for hamurott but the heat works well

[spiral fable]

Based froslass pick

[nocturne ether]

wait

i think i need to change

sr on blissey

double sr doesnt make sense

wish?

[spiral fable]

O yeah your ting Lu already has rocks

You can run t wave for more status, wish if you want, shadow ball for hitting ghosts

You’ve got options

You already have an amazing wish passer in mola but one more ain’t bad

[forest magnet]

wait are both of u guys stall lovers?

[nocturne ether]

yeah

[forest magnet]

@nocturne ether @spiral fable

[spiral fable]

Did

Did you not realize

[forest magnet]

i thought u where being helpfull

[spiral fable]

I mean I am

[forest magnet]

i need to get mods before another stall user is impowered

[spiral fable]

It’s too late

[forest magnet]

lmao joking

please don't repost

i'm working on ur team alr

[austere field]

No one gave me feedback

Oh

[forest magnet]

I am going too

[austere field]

Alr thanks man

[forest magnet]

np

[nocturne ether]

i can go status

since i can spread status

easier

and then durge will take care

of the rest

[forest magnet]

kid named garg

block garg >:)

[nocturne ether]

alom and pex

regen core can pp stall

[spiral fable]

You can usually 1v1 with Tera dirge

[nocturne ether]

or this yes^

[forest magnet]

erm i was actually running choice banded garg

[spiral fable]

Pp stall

[nocturne ether]

get

rid of the

nerd role @forest magnet

[forest magnet]

what nerd role

[nocturne ether]

this pink nerd role ☹️

[forest magnet]

nuh uh

its my job to rate teams

kaede is paying me with meta knowlege

[nocturne ether]

https://pokepast.es/0aa68f437a4c1763

@spiral fable )

[forest magnet]

eerie spell slowking = over

[spiral fable]

Looks good but you’re going to need to be very careful around set up sweepers

[forest magnet]

yeah no dozo is tuff

like gambit kills shit bc tera fairy can be hit by iron head

[nocturne ether]

i will be brutally gangrapping all set up sweepers (joke)

[spiral fable]

Tera water is probably better for dirge

But that’s up to you

[nocturne ether]

i will save ting-lu for whirl

[spiral fable]

I found success with both

[nocturne ether]

and i also have

haze

and unaware

[spiral fable]

I mean you can’t haze if you get 1 shot

[forest magnet]

well I would say that cm enamorus is not very good as you alr have cress, idk what the random gholdengo is doing there and muk is better swapped for slowking for more momentum+utility

[nocturne ether]

unaware

if i could carefully status

[spiral fable]

Dirge isn’t the best wall

[nocturne ether]

i can go for durge

[forest magnet]

kid named gambit

[spiral fable]

Just be very careful

[nocturne ether]

ah

[nocturne ether]

ting-lu

handles it

i think

[spiral fable]

Tera flying sd runs through your team

[forest magnet]

i'll send u a paste 4 the changes

[forest magnet]

no

[spiral fable]

If you don’t get a burn off

[forest magnet]

u don't have rest ting

[spiral fable]

Or haze

[austere field]

But I like muk

Good synergy with cress

[nocturne ether]

rest bell

[austere field]

😭

[nocturne ether]

sounds cool

[forest magnet]

ok

then should i build around muk?

[austere field]

Yes please

Muk and cress

[nocturne ether]

ah

[forest magnet]

before i build, whats muk backwards

[nocturne ether]

make it c

[spiral fable]

I mean it’s always going to happen stall is hard to pull off this gen

You’re going to run into issues no matter what

Just play carefully, especially with ting Lu who has no reliable recovery

[nocturne ether]

yeah also noticing the additional pp loss in recovery moves

i can actually make ting lu

a rest bell

[spiral fable]

Ehhhh not so sure about that but aight

[austere field]

https://tenor.com/view/shoebill-bird-rain-beautiful-gif-18429868

I can’t say it

[forest magnet]

k

u

just the last letter

[spiral fable]

Fill in the blank

[austere field]

ku_ alola

[nocturne ether]

sinep

[forest magnet]

kum

[nocturne ether]

read this backwards

@forest magnet

[forest magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/heman-skeletor-evil-laugh-evil-smile-evil-grin-gif-18376753

alr building time

brooo why are all the hazard setters evil?

all dark types

[nocturne ether]

i do not like

glimmora

[forest magnet]

glimm is my opp

[nocturne ether]

yes glimm is opp confirmed

thank you btw @spiral fable

[spiral fable]

Anything for another big stall member

(Also join stall empire if you want more and better advice)

[forest magnet]

nooooo

don't go to the dark side

play with HO screens

[nocturne ether]

no sorry

ho is my opp

kill all hoe-

[nocturne ether]

can i

recieve the invite

[forest magnet]

🔪 to my heart

[forest magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-star-wars-is-that-you-gif-23302211

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/30fff6d5662e7fe4

why is this team pretty good

[spiral fable]

Didn’t mean to send the sticker but whatever

[nocturne ether]

add in specs ambit

makes it better

[forest magnet]

what is an ambit

[nocturne ether]

king

armpit

ambit

[forest magnet]

stall propaganda

[nocturne ether]

i dont think they use specs kingambit sorry

it is broken

[ruby crest]

hi reminder this is a thread for teams needing to be rate if you want to continue talking head to #comp-general

[austere field]

Damn only changed two things

[forest magnet]

?? i changed sets

[austere field]

I’m a certified teambuilding pro

[austere field]

Oh I meant only two mons

[forest magnet]

sets matter

[austere field]

True

Still it looks fun as hell and keeps with the original spirit of the team

Thanks a ton man

[forest magnet]

np

[steep garden]

i agree save the king but no seriously thanks for your help bud

[hot relic]

https://pokepast.es/9c90730975852aeb

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[ruby crest]

Anytime

[forest magnet]

ice type is pretty tough on ur team (eg sandy shocks) enamorus is pretty slow and frail for a sweeper so i feel like it doesn't really feel that it will work out. same as thunderus.

i feel like thunderus and enam gotta go

[hot relic]

):

poor thundo

but i have kingambit to check whatever ice types there are, such as baxc and tera electric sandy

[balmy hill]

Been Passively watching and engaging with competitive for a while, figured I'd give OU a spin, pretty standard team but was wondering if there are any glaring issues I've forgotten about

https://pokepast.es/1bec08aa32590731

[ruby crest]

do ting lu > h samu (you want a much bulkier ghost resist here tbh still provides spikes), make amoong covert cloak here, make this pyshdef rocks great tusk, and booster energy sd encore iron val > specs, scarf gholdengo > np covert, and offensive zappy > heatran

[balmy hill]

Thanks will do 🙂

[ruby crest]

https://pokepast.es/5975712e2b4f4273 heres an import of the team with changes

[balmy hill]

thanks will try with that 🙂

[coral bloom]

https://pokepast.es/ecf0d2ea26865d68 all suggestions welcome 🙂

One of the things I'm not sure about is not having any hazards but not sure how to fit them

[spiral fable]

you're relying an awful lot on tusk removing hazards

which i mean its tusk but still

[spiral fable]

maybe you could put rocks on garg? bit iffy about that though

[coral bloom]

Yeah I guess I can spread some boots around, for instance on Bax. But I quite like running spear since it's good against sashes and stuff

Yeah garg was where I was looking but I usually use garg a bit late in the game

[spiral fable]

Maybe swap vest for lefties on tusk slap on rocks

[coral bloom]

Instead of CC I guess?

[lilac sun]

any changes needed? https://pokepast.es/594b3042dff3b80b

[spiral fable]

the pult is very unorthodox

not really sure it would work

[lilac sun]

It does

[spiral fable]

it seems like set up fodder for kingambit

how do you handle that

furthermore, valiant also gets in for free

enamorus as well

[lilac sun]

Usually try to take out those threats before sending in pult*

[spiral fable]

that's a very risky thing to do, especially since kingambit is a devastating late game sweeper that is notorious for coming in last and sweeping

and curse pult is ironically easily revenged killed due to its lower speed

if you try to take out all those threats before sending out pult, you also dont get much value out of screens

cuz by the time you take care of them, you're probbaly going to be a few mons down, on top of losing glimm right off the bat as a suicide lead

[lilac sun]

Any better non screen moves?

[spiral fable]

well if you want set up pult

you could always run ddance pult

also im assuming you're aiming for ho here?

[lilac sun]

Yea

[spiral fable]

not sure a bulky tusk is needed then

[lilac sun]

swap the item for something like boots?

[spiral fable]

swap the whole set/mon

you dont really need hazard removal on ho

[lilac sun]

should I add something like kingambit or Iron val?

[spiral fable]

yeah/

[lilac sun]

whitch will work better

[spiral fable]

i would say booster val

[lilac sun]

thanks

[restive mesa]

.

[sand citrus]

hi ! Im a low elo player and a poor builder who wants to build a team around specs greninja. Could somebody help me pls ?

[ruby crest]

This thread is for rating teams if you need help in building a team ask at comp general

[sand citrus]

okay im sry, ty !

[ruby crest]

It’s all good

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[gilded swallow]

https://pokepast.es/4f2f357e804c010b

[forest magnet]

all your defensive walls are weak to grass, an no really soild way to stop setup sweepers

especally if there are two on the team

[gilded swallow]

so an unaware mon, and swap out some of the defensive mons?

[forest magnet]

i would say swap out garg

[gilded swallow]

https://pokepast.es/bd4d68852e75764a

how bout now

[gilded swallow]

for who

[forest magnet]

that was extreme

[forest magnet]

maybe corv

so you have double hazard removal

works well with ur core alr

[gilded swallow]

bet

[gilded swallow]

what does that mean😭

[gilded swallow]

body press defog roost uturn?

[forest magnet]

ye

[gilded swallow]

bet

https://pokepast.es/d72eb8b0ccb67b81

so final team looks good?

[forest magnet]

ig

[gilded swallow]

thanks

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/75406410cd90ff1b

fellow raters pls help

[fiery sapphire]

How does this team beat DD baxcaliber

[forest magnet]

send away

[fiery sapphire]

Cuz without phys def rotom it looks like bax could prove to be a problem

[forest magnet]

gambit

[forest magnet]

thanks lemme tweak some stuff

[fiery sapphire]

Doesn't it use eq often? Dunno if it uses tera ground tho

But id honestly make roto phys def cuz against mons you may swap it into seem physical. Most special threats like walking wake still prob have trouble breaking growling

Glowking*

Kingambit checks specs dragapult if they dont fire blast predict into it.

[forest magnet]

my reaction to hydro steam specs proto boost

[fiery sapphire]

Actually wait why chilly reception here when you dont have much that gets helped out by hail

[forest magnet]

chill is for a pivot + getting rid of weather

[fiery sapphire]

Hmmm thats fair but what weather threats do you really lose to?

[forest magnet]

yeah i'll change rotom to phys def

[forest magnet]

its to prevent things like rain sweepers

swift swim

[fiery sapphire]

Phys def rotom beats them out though. Except special bax but not much on the team wants to swap into pump or last respects. But most physical rain sweepers phys def rotom beats and vested king I think does all you need when it comes to special tanking. In terms of sun vested king takes specs wake on.

[rain gyro]

last respects

[fiery sapphire]

Not special bax, special basculegeon

[rain gyro]

last respects is banned from OU

[fiery sapphire]

Oh ye...then phys def rotom sbf vested glowking should be enough to take on the rain and sun sweepers

See how it feels, if it becomes a big problem feel free to revert the changes

[woven venture]

if u want a genuine look at ur team without chilly getting called a bad move, cool build, Bax kinda puts it in a pack but thats been said already + T-wave Rotom and Gambit help, not a huge fan of Kowtow-less Gambit and yeah Wake kinda forces Slowking tera though having a solid Wake switch in is almost impossible so I don't hate the Wake MU. Maximum speed of the team being Tusk at 229 is pretty scary though since shit like Hoopa kills everybody and that'd prob part of why I'd call Bax an issue since SD still outspeeds + kills everything unless you tera. No hazards is kinda tough but I don't completely hate it, and your only stallbreaker is Gambit though that isn't a bad pick for a stallbreaker.

I recognise the molt-glowking here from a CTC build so cant be too bad lool but yeah that team is a lot faster/has hazards so I won't draw too many comparisons

[fiery sapphire]

Ye im thinking phys def rotom to beat out bax and vested glowking to beat wake

Hoopa is still a problem tho

[woven venture]

nah physdef Rotom cant touch Bax and vest Glowking is arguably worse into Wake cus you don't have the free pivot out afterwords, though this team does struggle to pivot out into something that can immediately pressure out a Wake

Tera Water Surf is only really punishable by going Dnite

[fiery sapphire]

Thunder wave cripples bax and glowking with future sight and sludge bomb can prob pressure wake out

Phys def just means glaive rush doesnt nuke you

[woven venture]

Glowking gets 2HKOd by tera water im pretty sure, unless you tera in return

but yeah thats why I like twave over wisp though it still might mean you have to sac a mon into it, since something'll have to take the follow-up glaive or crash

and physdef wash-tom doesn't really stand up as a sturdy Bax check anyway unless you tera Steel due to lack of recovery

[fiery sapphire]

Its a 3 shot, I used the damage calc

[woven venture]

244 SpA Choice Specs Tera Water Walking Wake Surf vs. 252 HP / 216+ SpD Slowking-Galar: 198-234 (50.2 - 59.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

it's not

[fiery sapphire]

Oh nvm

Why isnt it giving the right calc for me?

[woven venture]

this is specs, but most Wake I see are specs currently

Hydro Steam isn't guaranteed 2HKO but I don't really see much Hydro Steam Wake since sun fell out of meta

[woven venture]

oh wait I meant the non-Vest gets 2HKOd, Vest is 3HKO

[fiery sapphire]

Ye...vest is what I meant

[woven venture]

yeah I don't like vest though since you come in on a hit, take one hit and can throw out a Sludge Bomb/Future Sight and have to let another mon die

[fiery sapphire]

Vested over Boots so you can challenge wake, phys def rotom makes the bax match up slightly better otherwise its a 50/50 on eq or glaive rush

[woven venture]

though tbh without tera non-AV Glowking is the same

I agree tho the Bax MU is pretty rough

[ruby crest]

imma be real i dont like how overly passive this team is no immediate breaker outside of gambit which some games u want to save for late game stuff along with no hazards so making progress wont be as easy heavily relying on fs to make any attempt of progress, this team will struggle against fatter stufff even something like garg can set up turn 1 and win

some mons as well have their roles overlap which makes some of them uneccesary and just adds towards this team being passive

[fiery sapphire]

Still at least you pressure it somehow instead of just taking a surf or draco meteor and almost dying/sacking something without putting any pressure on it.

[woven venture]

yeah fair

I guess I’m just not an AV Glowking fan in general, Chilly Reception is way too good to have as a slow pivot move on that kind of mon to me

though having something to pressure mons that you chilly out on is best with that, like a Specs Wake on the team that this Glowking originates from

[lilac sun]

https://pokepast.es/6c743305e73f536c @ruby crest any fixes needed trying for HO

[ruby crest]

give me a sec

[lilac sun]

k

[ruby crest]

first thing off the bat dont like the fact u got two "suicide leads" here with a screenr if u want a hazard setter with screens u generally wouldnt do it with two since u waste precious screen turn

[lilac sun]

I use Samurott as a normal scarf mon and sandy shocks as a pivot who can set up rocks

[ruby crest]

fwiw when u build screens u generally want set up mons to make good use of the screens

tho at the same time u wouldnt even need scarf h samu here fwiw

[lilac sun]

would swords dance be better?

[ruby crest]

hmm i think you have to commit to one thing

you want screens or u want to make this hazard stack tbh

i dont like h samu as a set up mon here when there are better options

[lilac sun]

I'm good with switching it for SD Kingambit

[ruby crest]

could do that and make iron val cm

https://pokepast.es/7a7c508018c3a92b something like this

[lilac sun]

why sub val?

[ruby crest]

u get to set up against gking

so if it attempts to status u, u can sub and just begin setting up

[lilac sun]

ah cool, thanks

[ruby crest]

no problemo

[forest magnet]

changes?

nvm imma scrap

[ruby crest]

Would say that he the best it’s reedemable but that also requires one to many changes where the team isn’t even the same as it was before

[forest magnet]

ye

i gotta get the gears turning

haven't made a rmt in like 2 months

i gotta provide for my one follower on smogon

[ruby crest]

this thread is for rating teams if u are asking for teams ask at #comp-general

[modern ermine]

https://pokepast.es/020b97731b2de4f8

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[modern ermine]

struggling a bit with zama

[ruby crest]

Lokix

[modern ermine]

ye

[ruby crest]

This is a funky squad

[ruby crest]

Imma be real idk how to approach this without changing to much or missing something crucial

[rose hinge]

https://pokepast.es/af110fa08777126f

sneasler team gimme s9e help

[spiral fable]

probably want razor shell over surf

[rose hinge]

wats razor shell for

[spiral fable]

just does more damage

[rose hinge]

yeah but surf kills tusk

[wet cape]

https://pokepast.es/ad179cf6107892f5

[ruby crest]

Do lum berry > lefties on zama and Tera dark or even steel > fire, screens pult > Grimm, make this standard cm cress, and if ur doing cm iron Val do cm sball aura sphere sun

[rose hinge]

That is standard calm mind cress isnt it?

i used the set on smogon

and what move is sun on iron valiant?

[ruby crest]

It’s not

Standard cress usually runs Tera poison stored power and moonblast

[rose hinge]

oh right

on smogon it has it in /

it says poison/fighting

and tera blast/ mb

so valiants moves should be cm, moonblast, shadow ball and aura sphere?

[ruby crest]

Sub > moonblast

[rose hinge]

wait no moonblast?!

damn tragic era rn lol

[ruby crest]

Yeah iron Val runs whatever moves it needs

[rose hinge]

ty for the help

just gotta pray i dont find any horoarks 🙏

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/47ef426d301d0f42

I feel like i'm too weak to things like cresselia and Diancie any fixes?

[spiral fable]

i dont think diancie is a threat

[forest magnet]

bro i just got reverse swept by tera water diancie

[spiral fable]

skill issue

[forest magnet]

shut i have good elo trust

[spiral fable]

you could just put clod on your team and fix both issues

ignore all the issues putting clod on your team would cause

[forest magnet]

nu uh

[forest magnet]

kid named stored power

[spiral fable]

amnesia

[forest magnet]

kid named crit

lmao joking

[spiral fable]

refer to above message

[forest magnet]

u like stall

[spiral fable]

totally didnt happen to me

[spiral fable]

and ill do it again

[fierce basin]

you have both plot recover ghold and sd encore val for cress. If you feel like you still can't break it you could make the ghold modest or smth since you're playing webs anyway, you'll still outspeed valiant but wont outspeed pult. I wouldn't though, if you feel you need more breaking power for other mons you could make moth modest so it boosts spatk or make bax either adamant dd or stick with jolly and try sd to better abuse webs. not like you're lacking speed control between gren and booster val. Team doesn't really look like it abuses webs, could prob replace masquerain with a samurott-hisui if you don't feel like making changes to the other mons. gl

[night zodiac]

https://pokepast.es/10d1b28b02ab2671
AV Hoopa-U, thoughts?

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[fallow crag]

i think the dirge probably needs to be an amoonguss

[night zodiac]

Noted

[fallow crag]

i just see some struggles into garg

if you can force a tera it isnt too bad but it doesnt seem like you can easily

on av hoopa in particular

i think gunk > tbolt

9/10 times

strong ass gunk off that thing is a big reason to run it

shuts down all tera fairy mons + scream tail

[night zodiac]

Gotcha 👍

[fallow crag]

im not sure about tera electric on zap

probably want something defensive

steel could go there

for enam

[night zodiac]

Fair

Also would you suggest running cloak on amongus since you were talking about garg being an issue?

[fallow crag]

nah not necessary on it

i like red card a lot cause its fuckin bullshit

but boots is probably best

[night zodiac]

Noted

[fallow crag]

red card cheeses wins sometimes

boots is more consistent

[night zodiac]

Good to know 👍

https://pokepast.es/4da01c42e0c464d5
Anything else that should be taken note of?

[night zodiac]

Thanks for the tips, appreciate :]

[spiral fable]

Iron Val seems like a pretty big problem for this team

specs val rips through this entire team

[ruby crest]

Specs iron Val is almost non existent these days, and there’s an amoong + Av hoops for it

[real willow]

tesTing-Lu is a good username

[night zodiac]

Ty lol

[spiral fable]

huh, i ran into it recently thought it was still around, wack

[white solstice]

https://pokepast.es/24f1fc77a89315be

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

no ground immune on a very ground weak team, cinderace is really good vs ur team (court-change+u-turn)

make gren battle bond

mabye make cinderace more bulky

[strange escarp]

https://pokepast.es/08608d1fad9c7339 attempt @ BO

[sly mauve]

Amoonguss @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Effect Spore
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 72 HP / 92 Def / 92 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Spore
• Rest
• Sleep Talk
• Synthesis

Scizor @ Expert Belt
Ability: Technician
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 72 HP / 252 Atk / 108 SpA / 76 SpD
Jolly Nature

• Bullet Punch
• U-turn
• Close Combat
• Protect

Dragonite @ Assault Vest
Ability: Inner Focus
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 88 HP / 208 Atk / 36 Def / 96 SpD / 80 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Extreme Speed
• Body Slam
• Dragon Claw
• Thunder Wave

Gardevoir @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Telepathy
Tera Type: Psychic
EVs: 184 HP / 84 Def / 40 SpA / 108 SpD / 92 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Moonblast
• Light Screen
• Will-O-Wisp
• Reflect

Murkrow @ Eviolite
Ability: Prankster
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 160 HP / 148 Def / 72 SpD / 128 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk

• Tailwind
• Foul Play
• Haze
• Protect

Landorus-Therian @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 112 HP / 144 Atk / 56 Def / 108 SpD / 88 Spe
Naughty Nature

• Earthquake
• Rock Slide
• Body Slam
• Stomping Tantrum

can anyone try rate this team?

I made it in 10-ish minutes

[spiral fable]

uh

this seems like its meant for vgc?

are you sure you didnt post this in the wrong channel?

[random wolf]

Look at the bottom of your team
You'll see "upload to pokepaste"

[real willow]

!pokepaste

[viral sable]

PokePaste is the easiest way to share competitive teams with other people online. Simply upload your team to the site and you can share your team by sharing the link in your browser!

To upload a team to PokePaste directly from Pokemon Showdown, scroll to the bottom of the team and press the button that says Upload to PokePaste.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459043501984972801/1127497594126479460/pokepasteps.png

You can then take the link of the PokePaste and share that link to share the team with other people.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459043501984972801/1127497593610584074/pokepastelink.png

[sly mauve]

!pokepaste

[viral sable]

PokePaste is the easiest way to share competitive teams with other people online. Simply upload your team to the site and you can share your team by sharing the link in your browser!

To upload a team to PokePaste directly from Pokemon Showdown, scroll to the bottom of the team and press the button that says Upload to PokePaste.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459043501984972801/1127497594126479460/pokepasteps.png

You can then take the link of the PokePaste and share that link to share the team with other people.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459043501984972801/1127497593610584074/pokepastelink.png

[real willow]

Please don't spam

Thx

[fickle salmon]

https://pokepast.es/9984c58fe7e2aa0f

This is a team I enjoyed using prehome, is there anything I should change?

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[fallow crag]

you get 6-0ed by enamorus

tbh theres a lot of new stuff that this struggles into ill leave it to another rater to think of fixes

[fickle salmon]

@fallow crag Can you rate my sun team? https://pokepast.es/1add1a4c71b138c5

[forest magnet]

u-turn over iron head, more momentum make cerulege a bulk-up set, too much overlap with tusk, lava plume over flame thrower for burn chances.

pretty good start alr

[fickle salmon]

Thanks so much! What do you mean by too much overlap with tusk

[forest magnet]

same role

[forest magnet]

Ceruledge @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Flash Fire
Tera Type: Bug
EVs: 252 HP / 244 SpD / 12 Spe
Careful Nature

• Bulk Up
• Bitter Blade
• Shadow Sneak
• Taunt

like this set for ceru maybe

[fickle salmon]

Could you help me with figuring out the roles for my Pokémon? I’m new to battling, I have a rough idea

• Wake is my wall breaker
• moon is my sweeper
• hatt comes in to take a hit and eject to the above 2, but is also a good stall check
• tusk comes in and hits something very hard and ejects out to the top 2
• ledge I don’t really know honestly
• torkoal sun guy

[forest magnet]

gimmie a min i gotta eat

[fickle salmon]

No prob

[forest magnet]

alright i'm back

ping me when u ready

[rain gyro]

I'm not a rater but

Generally competitive battling isn't as set in stone as "X does X, Y does Y"

But the team seems

Solid

WAY more solid than mine when I started

[forest magnet]

👍

[forest magnet]

pokemon in certain games might have diffrent roles

for example, ting-lu might be a tank instead of a hazard setter because your opponent has cinderace's court change

[rain gyro]

Yeah

This is looking prominent though

If you want to send the entire team's sets n stuff

We (matte more than me fr) can help ya get something working