[DO NOT USE][ARCHIVED] SV OU Rates

[forest magnet]

but like once heat is predicted or chipped down then u boned

[fiery sapphire]

Hmmm maybe corviknight > zapdos? Or replace great tusk?

[forest magnet]

corv for amoongus

u get 2 hazard removals

amogus walls enam

and also corv does

(not M fire

but u can just swap to heatran

[fiery sapphire]

Breloom and amoongus become a problem due to spore

[forest magnet]

ah true

[fiery sapphire]

Hmmm well if we use corviknight over zapdos what do we lose?

[forest magnet]

static procs

yeah

idk

[fiery sapphire]

Is that better than being able to trap a big threat with tera grass heatran?

[forest magnet]

zap mirror match

[forest magnet]

i say go tera water

lemme remake the team with waht i think is good and u can go from there

https://pokepast.es/7009617156ec1ccb

@fiery sapphire

thats what i would build

but tell me what u would like

[fiery sapphire]

I like that

[forest magnet]

just idk

bc lack of spa attackers

but u can just trap and remove phys walls

[fiery sapphire]

Also banded azu beats out lando, beats out garganacl (Great tusk also helps with this), ting lu, amoongus beats out dondozo, heatran traps and kills toxapex.

[forest magnet]

tera water garg

idk

just throwing ideas out

*checks

[fiery sapphire]

Garg has like 5 tera types it can run, trying to predict its terra feels like gambling but I see what you mean

[forest magnet]

yeah lmao

like volc

[fiery sapphire]

Im suprised they havent banned garg tho

[forest magnet]

lmao what

[fiery sapphire]

Wasnt there a time where everyone wanted garg gone?

[forest magnet]

yeah

idk if we can fit covert cloak

[fiery sapphire]

I mean now theres sneasler, Ursaluna, basculegion so maybe garg shouldnt be banned

But thats not here nor there, question why wouldn't we be able ro fit covert cloak?

[forest magnet]

bc all items we have on are kinda needed

corv always gets knocked off

and vs meow amoongus is always coming in

so it could also get knocked off

covert cloak is somthin we need the entire match

[fiery sapphire]

Hmmm yeah

[forest magnet]

i mean amogus is pretty good vs garg

u could run grass knot for tera water and garg normal

[forest magnet]

and tusk 2

[ashen rampart]

https://pokepast.es/b05236d87e802b4b CB Cinderace team, been going through a lot of versions and finally got a pretty good imo, want some outside feedback as well

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

why quag

and u only have one bulky pivot

what do u want for this team to improve on

i'll do my best from there

u might want to change lando to spd so u have 2 spd walls

bc u don't want corv to go down and weak to spa attacks

[ashen rampart]

Ok

[velvet path]

https://pokepast.es/5aa1afe0a3652f3b

[ashen rampart]

Quag is here because I have trouble taking down mons that set up

[forest magnet]

use dondozo

[ashen rampart]

Ok

[forest magnet]

i'll help u in a few mins

[forest magnet]

lemme revise your team without changing it too much

[ashen rampart]

Ok

Also Ive just realised I have no sp atkers, is that gonna be a huge problem?

[forest magnet]

kinda

some teams don't need it

https://pokepast.es/c7e02d4b5c9aa974

here

slowking is for future sight support which is a spa attack, it hits hard and forces in things that you can profit off

(eg) gambit coming in to take a future sight but you send in cinderace

[ashen rampart]

Awesome thanks man

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/3b05af035b1dcff6

wait here is the better one

just with tera types

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/2c9ccd32825dac67

here

just changed samu to scarf and heatran's tera from flying to grass

scarf is for suprise kills when leading

also endgame

and grass is better bc u don't want s rock damage on switchin

pretty decent team

[velvet path]

thanks

[forest magnet]

np

[kindred canyon]

https://pokepast.es/e247366551203dee

Looking for second pair of eyes to notice weaknesses I missed

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

team is pretty weak to meow

[kindred canyon]

Hmm I think it depends on the set right?

I have a few ways of punishing meows

[forest magnet]

like?

[kindred canyon]

Well I depends on what meow is running for item

[forest magnet]

lets say heavy duty boots

[kindred canyon]

Pult will out speed

And survive any sucker punch

[forest magnet]

they might have other mons

[kindred canyon]

I think even moon packs it alone

[forest magnet]

you won't always be vs meow

[forest magnet]

play rough

i mean its a pretty solid team

just meow packs up the defensive mons

forcing in things like moon

which they can have answers too

also double weak to gambit

[kindred canyon]

It would force my Tera flying

[forest magnet]

yeah which they can swap into another mon

[kindred canyon]

Gambit im not worried about

[forest magnet]

alr

[kindred canyon]

My Tera is meant for moon tbh so I don’t mind using

[forest magnet]

i'm just saying that ur defensive mons are all weak to meow

[forest magnet]

then they swap into other mons like dozo and then u wasted ur item+tera

[forest magnet]

what would u like your team to improve on?

we can go from there

[kindred canyon]

Hmm I don’t think I’m weak to much

I think scarf meow is a problem

[forest magnet]

alr

i think slapping a moltres would be nice

[kindred canyon]

Hmmmm over who though?

[forest magnet]

but idk where to put it

garg is for dozo right?

damn

[kindred canyon]

Yeah plus it can force things that normal won’t happen

[forest magnet]

now i see that ur team is pretty weak too rain

[forest magnet]

who

dozo?

[kindred canyon]

Nah garg

With rain I typically lead Pult

And bomb everything first turn

[forest magnet]

if you say draco imma gobble

lmao

[kindred canyon]

Lol nah I usually Tera shadow ball

People don’t expect it lol

And wipe Peli from earth

🤣

[forest magnet]

but when u get too high ladder then what to do?

[kindred canyon]

I saw good success in 1600s

[forest magnet]

mm

[kindred canyon]

I will say that maybe Tera water garg is better

But my meow weakness says

[forest magnet]

yeah for that iron head resist

• better rain matchup

[kindred canyon]

Yeah

[forest magnet]

lemme remake ur team

let me know what u think abt the cahnges

[kindred canyon]

Yeee

[forest magnet]

oops

https://pokepast.es/d31bbedd9226755e

there

[kindred canyon]

I’ll test and let you know

[forest magnet]

sure

[kindred canyon]

I’ll clean moltres up too

[forest magnet]

dm me if help is needed

[forest magnet]

its a spd wall

with good recovery

[kindred canyon]

Yeeee

Appreciate it

[forest magnet]

np man

i gotta sleep soon tho so if thats why i might not reply

[vernal prism]

Is it ok to ask for tips on a team that's still missing a mon? https://pokepast.es/2464944a484fdaef I'm starting to play ou for the first time this gen, and kinda just trying to see what works with building after playing with sample teams for a while, not really sure how to finish off this team/if anything needs to be subbed out

[forest magnet]

sorry for the slow response! I'm ready to teambuild with you

just ping me anytime soon

for now, I would say that you need to change the lando set

and have slowking galar as a piviot

you already have 2 mons that avoid ground type attacks so slowking galar is already very good as a spd wall

https://pokepast.es/7fa40264fa466493

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

here is the new paste with improvements

lando is now a bulky pivot

added pivot slowking

made ur roaring moon jolly

[livid glade]

https://pokepast.es/aa9b1ed5e79b9b9c anything to improve?

[brave moth]

https://pokepast.es/ce17b444b666f08b rate and roast

[forest magnet]

once gambit + bax core and its over

why are u running ass vest

[brave moth]

idk

[forest magnet]

run ting lu

not fort

[livid glade]

Its a spinner

[forest magnet]

lemme remake it rq

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/b673fea68db15d11

[livid glade]

I might use it

I like chomp a lot tho

[livid glade]

Foretress can cripple bax and has good synergy with chomp

Tusk gets punished by set up baxcalibur

I don't think fire is relatively common in the ou tier

It's not uncommon tho

I might run boots foretress

So I can guarantee live a hit

From a special attacker

[forest magnet]

u do u

[empty inlet]

https://pokepast.es/3de0512a2f37384e

for a tournament in which tera isnt a thing and volcarona is still unbanned

any tips/changes of pokemon?

[forest magnet]

bro i made that 4 u

[empty inlet]

?

[forest magnet]

nah

bro just cobbled to teams together

make gren battle bond

[empty inlet]

I dont have that ingame

[forest magnet]

uh oh

[empty inlet]

should I make it u turn?

[forest magnet]

no

[empty inlet]

or completely change the mon

[forest magnet]

teams pretty good alr

[empty inlet]

or change other things

[forest magnet]

nah

tera is banned

so pex is ur volcarona check

its good to go

[empty inlet]

u think screens is good for this team or should I make it offensive?

[forest magnet]

screens

volcarona is goated behind screens

+dragonite

[forest magnet]

just weaken the checks to dragonite and volc then use dragapult

its just a gameplan

[empty inlet]

u think treads is needed?

[forest magnet]

well what would u replsce it with?

[empty inlet]

cause both setups are boots

[forest magnet]

true

[empty inlet]

maybe something to weaken checks

[forest magnet]

maybe make it booster energy

oh

make it booster energy

bc its nice to have some bulk

with like steel beam or somthing

[empty inlet]

while making the team I had garganacle on this first

[forest magnet]

kuz screens might not always work

[forest magnet]

just practice some matches with a friend

good mu's and bad ones

[empty inlet]

Azu> gren with screens?

[forest magnet]

thats what i said first lol

why did u change it

kuz volc is already overpowered as a spa attacker

[empty inlet]

idk because of unaware mons

[forest magnet]

true

keep gren

[empty inlet]

they'll wear me down otherwise

[forest magnet]

it beats durge

[empty inlet]

but toxapex is goated against unaware

especially if they dont expect

i found one thats amazing against all unaware mons

poltageist is crazy

Polteageist @ Focus Sash
Ability: Weak Armor
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Shell Smash
• Shadow Ball
• Stored Power
• Giga Drain

and its good behind screens

[livid glade]

Tera blast fighting better imp

For gambit

[fiery sapphire]

This prob isnt the place to ask but would you like to battle on sd? Mostly looking got advice on how to better my own battling skills. I think I'm decent at team building it's just battling I struggle with at times.

[forest magnet]

no

he's playing a tourney in pixelmon

no tera

[forest magnet]

ay

i would like to battle but I have class soon

i'll message u maybe on the weekend?

[fiery sapphire]

Yeah i could pm you and you can send it there.

[forest magnet]

i'll send a friend req so i can save u

[forest magnet]

cool

i gotchu

[fiery sapphire]

Also I've learned that banded azu is very potent

Like half of the sweepers just die to aqua jet at like 60%

[forest magnet]

mm

[vernal prism]

Ty, I'll try this out!

[forest magnet]

np

[livid glade]

Ok

[safe wyvern]

https://pokepast.es/a45eed89f1c77b85

made this shitty rain team with oricorio since zapdos lost defog, how is it?

[fiery sapphire]

Meowscarada is gonna have a field day with this your better off with zap or corviknight because their bulkier

[safe wyvern]

i usually try to save floatzel for it, it outspeeds and ohkos with brick break (or wave crash)

[fiery sapphire]

Still I don't see a reason not to have corv or zap

Like if I lead meowscarada

Nothing really wants to take a hit

Pelliper isnt awful but it still takes around half from flower trick

[still citrus]

But it’s so funny

[fervent bluff]

Watch them just switch in their booster energy iron valiant

On jaw lock

[still citrus]

Tera poison

Balls

[forest magnet]

water absorb

[safe wyvern]

[safe wyvern]

sheist factor tbh

i have a couple "better" versions replacing oricorio with corv, zap and hilligant but i just think oricorio is kinda funny

[fiery sapphire]

I mean fair but what are going to do against water absorb clodsire

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[brisk cedar]

or just tera water garg

literally beats everything but oricorio

Also missing a nature and evs on gastrodon

[past night]

Hello all, I made a Decidueye-Hisu team for OU, it’s been pretty good but it’s not going past 1400s. Decidueye, Dragapult, and Dondozo have been absolute all stars with this team but everyone else has been lackluster( but fun) if anyone has a few suggestions for swap out of the other three or a move set that would be better, please feel free to offer your opinion.

https://pokepast.es/25961cda6e4e1cab

[nocturne dagger]

bulk up on corv isn’t good

especially with your only attacking move being u turn

i’d drop it for brave bird

banded synthesis on decidueye is also bad

i’d swap it for leaf blade

or u turn

[undone panther]

Hey guys! I'm honestly a little scared since I'm quite new to the meta (I'm only 1172) but I tried to make a team centered on DD Baxcalibur. I intended Iron Moth, Gholdengo, and Azumarill to complement Bax by being wallbreakers. Great Tusk is for util and defense, and Unaware Dondozo for the pesky set-up sweepers. I think I'm missing a mon that is more focused on special walling though, so if you all can help me out that would be amazing! Feel free to be harsh, if you must.

https://pokepast.es/378a15592905e69f

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[naive stirrup]

https://pokepast.es/3eec67a011297076 My SV OU balance team. Need tots, I want RM my late game sweeper but still open for changes. I feel my speed control is lacking though, how do I fix it? My kingambit matchup is p iffy too

[nocturne dagger]

you could try specially defensive pex over dondozo

gives special bulk and can still stop set-up with haze

[inland elm]

https://pokepast.es/ccc856688f75ca76 wanted to use scarf ghold and moth seemed fun, any improvements?

[strong vapor]

https://pokepast.es/56ae662dc4648f04 Rate and roast this team

[undone panther]

thanks! it fits well in the team

spdef pex is very reliable

[fiery sapphire]

I'd argue spdef pex isnt needed because if they use spdef pex they have nothing to resist a mon like ursaluna, great tusk, or landorous.

Like what stops scarf lando from setting rocks and u turning out or just clicking knock off because tusk and pex dont want to lead into landorous.

[undone panther]

wuld amoongus work, then?

oh wait it doesnt resist ground sorry

[forest magnet]

broo

pult will prob never live a super-effective hit 💀

[vernal prism]

I feel like I need some tips on using this team, since I'm really struggling with it

[past night]

Thank you for the input, Corv has been replaced with heatran since the team already had a good amount of pivots now that I gave lando u turn instead of rocks.

Decidueye I swapped to roost because of the snow that I usually pivot in but I kinda need it since no boots

Helps for tanking water electric and ground attacks as well as swapping in on salt cure

[forest magnet]

sure

dm me

we can talk there

[lunar osprey]

https://pokepast.es/bbaeec274c06e0e5 how should I improve this team and how can I best use it

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

lemme help

ur team is clapped by dozo

lemme revise the team

see what i can improve

[lunar osprey]

wonderful

and thank you for helping me btw

[forest magnet]

np gotchu fam

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/61c8afeb7591f8ef

here

bax is paired with slowking for more phys bulk

added specs to pult

sneasler scarf outspeeds alot of things

rotom as slow pys pivot

u could do corv

but no fire resist is tuff

you should play this team by weakening bax's checks

chilly with slowking

then set up

[lunar osprey]

is it possible to keep skeledirge instead of dragapult

would that work

or actually how about this

https://pokepast.es/3e8b21f5ad85c0a3

[nocturne dagger]

that makes your team super defensive

[forest magnet]

gambit is a cheat code

[nocturne dagger]

if you really want dirge you could make rotom spdef and then invest dirge entirely into physdef

and swap glowking for sneasler

you already have a good pivot with rotom

[lunar osprey]

could you do it and then show me on pokepast

[lunar osprey]

is that bad

I just like bulky teams in general

but ya I should probably do something about my team being really weak to ghost and dark

[nocturne dagger]

its not really bulky offense

[lunar osprey]

then what is it

balance?

idrc what it is

i just put the name to make it sound professional lol

[nocturne dagger]

idk its just kinda passive

without being stall

[lunar osprey]

so what can I do to make it a proper balance team

i prefer that over offensive

[nocturne dagger]

hm

bax is generally ran on offense

if thats what you want to build around

[lunar osprey]

then lets build around skeledirge

what goes well with skeledirge

[nocturne dagger]

rotom, tusk

i've been trying to make a team but teambuilding from scratch is not my strong suit

dirge is also legal in uu where its better

if that interests you

[lunar osprey]

no im doing a non-official gen 9 ou tournament just with my friends so I just need a strong team that I like using for gen 9 ou

[forest magnet]

i gotchu

what playstle

and pokemon

i'll make a team 4 u

[nocturne dagger]

they said a balance team with dirge

[forest magnet]

oh

alr

tbh heatran is the better dirge

[lunar osprey]

I like dirge because of unaware and torch song

because its useful lategame to clean up (like a wincon)

[nocturne dagger]

heatran is the better defensive fire type but it doesn’t outclass dirge in every way

it still has unaware

and a fighting immunity instead of a weakness

and reliable recovery

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/322b9170e09f1e52

did i cook up

https://pokepast.es/05d01043a13ef9fc

here is dirge with tera blast

[lunar osprey]

the first one looks good

[forest magnet]

alr

[forest magnet]

dm me if anything needs changing

[nocturne dagger]

no defog on corv?

[lunar osprey]

ya that was the one thing

also isn't it better to make landorus specially defensive since we have physically defensive corviknight?

and why grass knot

[forest magnet]

nu uh

[forest magnet]

4 tusk

[forest magnet]

prob switch it tho

[wraith verge]

do you think you could help me improve this team https://pokepast.es/aa7f5ff43941295f

[fathom wraith]

https://pokepast.es/8cb4ce33f540f1e6 thoughts on this team ( i didnt mean to put speed evs in some of them )

[nocturne dagger]

toxic spikes on glimmora is super pointless it already passively makes them

rocks would be way better

your team is super weak to ground tho

[forest magnet]

sure

[forest magnet]

go with rocks over toxic spikes

[forest magnet]

go air balloon on sneasler

swap fake out for sd

[forest magnet]

bro

there are no screens

https://pokepast.es/c3154d9e05fd6ab4

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/e437dd48713fedae

screens

[inland elm]

https://pokepast.es/ccc856688f75ca76 wanted to use scarf ghold and moth seemed fun, any improvements? feel i could replace defog with smth else on corv cause i have tusk for trap removal

[plain tapir]

https://pokepast.es/2d800fdfa8f67859

[deep goblet]

Looking for general improvements and stuff for my sun team https://pokepast.es/d5bcd97f42a910fb

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/c8242a8ffdbf54b6

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/9cf7de9796776f2b

both improved teams 4 u guys

[nocturne dagger]

booster energy meow 🔥

[forest magnet]

lmao thanks brother

lemme fix it

[worn spoke]

https://pokepast.es/d49bf2b5140d3d87
Not sure if duplicate items are allowed but how’s my team?

I’m new to making competitive teams

[forest magnet]

dupes are allowed

u can make ur entire team choice banded if u wanted

[forest magnet]

thats alr

you have a nice defensive core

but there are some weaknesses

i would suggest for tusk to be more bulky

and meow to be boots or scarf

depends on what you would like better

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[obsidian fable]

super new to making competitive teams but here is mine

https://pokepast.es/5fa503a4154106f4

also the ev spread is wrong for moltres its 252 defense

[forest magnet]

i gotchu

[obsidian fable]

bet

[forest magnet]

gimmie a sec

in a tough match

[obsidian fable]

alr sure

[obsidian fable]

oh gl bro

[forest magnet]

alr back

i lost sadly

[obsidian fable]

aww

[forest magnet]

still at 1700s :(

[obsidian fable]

what was he running

[forest magnet]

every time i try to win a match

i get slammed by a 1800s player

[obsidian fable]

me fr

[forest magnet]

i got double flinched by maushold

[obsidian fable]

i win against 1300-1390

[forest magnet]

thats why i lost

[obsidian fable]

but then i get completely destroyed by 1490

[forest magnet]

lmao

that used to be me

i would loose like 20+ games

[obsidian fable]

i mean we aint the same level, i suck ur prolly a top player

[forest magnet]

nah i'm shit

1700s is like nothing

[obsidian fable]

ur 1700....

well if ur comparing yourself to the top 500 ppl

then sure

[forest magnet]

ppl out there like 2100s

[forest magnet]

yeah thanks

anyways

[obsidian fable]

yea but i would say you have a higher elo than like 95% of players

[forest magnet]

lets get to ur team

[obsidian fable]

yea

bet

[forest magnet]

gimmie the updated paste

with moltres evs etc..

[obsidian fable]

ok

sending rn

https://pokepast.es/4cc637460bc8b464

here

[forest magnet]

alr

[obsidian fable]

i also added a haxorus because it deals with garganacl and heatran which this team sucks against

also deals with rotom wash instantly cuz of mold breaker

[forest magnet]

would u like me to keep all mons same?

[obsidian fable]

nah

but i do like the molres and hax

[forest magnet]

alr

[obsidian fable]

since those r in my top 5 favorite pokes

[forest magnet]

alr i'll do my best to keep them

[obsidian fable]

alr bet

if u have to remove one of them then thats fine

[forest magnet]

lemme fix ur team p

imma send u the paste

[obsidian fable]

alr

ok sure

[forest magnet]

then we can talk from there

[obsidian fable]

bet

[forest magnet]

like what u like / don't like

[obsidian fable]

tysm for taking the time to help me btw

[forest magnet]

np

i'm a student so i have a summer break

[obsidian fable]

ah

did u finish

[forest magnet]

almost done

u want nicknames?

[obsidian fable]

ok

[obsidian fable]

sure

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/c324280eb86f39aa

alr done

un-wallable is bc dragapult is a ghost

they go thru walls

hahahaha

sorry

so i made ur team a screens one

it looks like normal ho

but once the other team is weakened (eg burn)

you can setup screens and sweep with val or hax

[obsidian fable]

oh

daym

that looks perfect

[forest magnet]

u like it?

i made tusk more offensive

[obsidian fable]

yea

but why run screens on pult?

[forest magnet]

bc ur just gonna spin like 1 or 2 times before going for sweep

[obsidian fable]

the dragon darts banded set lowk cooks

[forest magnet]

screens is for tricking ppl

[obsidian fable]

but then how do i wallbreak

[forest magnet]

they think its specs for example

[forest magnet]

haxorus, val

tusk is for weaking things

head long

[obsidian fable]

alr

[forest magnet]

also moltres

[obsidian fable]

i will give this a try asap

but im on a HUGE losing streak rn so im not gonna risk it lmao

[forest magnet]

send me the link to your match in dms

[obsidian fable]

im gonna cool off and do it

[forest magnet]

new acc

[obsidian fable]

ok bet

[obsidian fable]

how do I do that?

[forest magnet]

new acc is a mindset wipe

[forest magnet]

click ur little profile

go to the bottom of the menu

[obsidian fable]

what if im chat locked

[forest magnet]

then sign out

[obsidian fable]

can i still do it?

[forest magnet]

??

[obsidian fable]

lmao I got a little too* heated in a match on monday

[forest magnet]

damnn

well then u can't make a new acc

so just chill off

[obsidian fable]

its fine actually

il go on this one

do u want me to send u the live match or

[forest magnet]

live match

[obsidian fable]

k sending rn

[forest magnet]

team is low on momentum

i would say use something else instead of hoopa

i would say enamorus

or val

nah

i say just go with a fairy attacker

maybe sub enamorus

air bal on dengo

keep air baloon on sneasler

prob scarf

imma jump

uh

the normal one

[deep goblet]

Thanks for the team sir

[fathom wraith]

https://pokepast.es/d45befcda767be86

[hardy sequoia]

https://pokepast.es/12016badfd1604af

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[hardy sequoia]

My little brother made the team

[forest magnet]

hey, I can improve the team for you

this mean that i would have to replace some mons is that alr?

idk if ur lil bro ok with that

[ruby crest]

This is honestly a sample team moment a lot of the mons here are running very questionable sets and 1-2 changes won’t be enough to redeem

[forest magnet]

lmao thats what i thought

i was this is too close to the sample team

imma just give the samp team to them

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/ec051e757ed6c770

this team is pretty much the same.

just more optimized and better sets

[dire dew]

https://pokepast.es/fb6e9d4a14f40b6f

Pretty fun team to use. standard bulk up flash fire ceruledge but air baloon for ground type moves. Ceruledge can easily switch on commonly found mons like heatran, dengo and enamorus and just start bulking up due to its high special defence. after the balloon is broken it can tera bug to resist ground and then setup once more and then recover the next turn with bitter blade. it has shadow sneak and close combat for annoying dark types.

Rm is another interesting pick. Instead of the classic BE acrobatics set, I'm running the choice band set due to its ability to pivot out with uturn and also a lot of fairy types being there in the meta rn. Interestingly I'm running a tera steel instead of dark or dragon. This is because steel gives you amazing resistances and the ability to survive choice band and choice specs varieties of pult.

defensive zapdos and corv are both on the team. it might be a bit excessive but both are so amazing and contribute a lot to the team. defog is on corv for hazards but it has a hard time using it.

scarf val is there because it can outspeed common pokes like pult and tusk and ohko with moonblast. other moves are there for coverage mainly.

last slot is given to alolan muk because it helps against special attackers like dengo, glowking and opposing val. initially i had a lefties set with max sp def investment but the attack output was damn poor and couldnt ohko val. Now with AV set it is amazing against the afforementioned pokes.

Common problems with the team:

1. hazards - the only hazard remover is defog corv but i rarely get opportunities and mostly find myself clicking u turn because of dengo. with a team so centered on pivoting hazards hurts the team and wears it down easily.

2. walls- this team struggles against physical walls like dozo, garg and sometimes glowking.

Would like suggestions on ways to improve the team. Thanks a lot for reading!

[fiery sapphire]

Why not use booster energy tera electric val?

It gives you the speed while having free selection of what moves to choose while tera electric helps out against dozo, maybe swap aurasphere for focus blast if you want to beat out garganacl.

[sly mauve]

sneasler volt turn https://pokepast.es/9c356c5a83b0430e

[hasty dune]

Heya! I'm not too familiar with gen 9 ou, so I tried to make a balanced offensive team with some cores I saw on Smogon.

https://pokepast.es/4ea006f66290c09f

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[hasty dune]

I know Greninja isn't too good in OU, but I wanted to see if he could work since I really like Greninja

[stable brook]

https://pokepast.es/82411f79c9a40b7f Struggling against rotom-W a lot any ideas?

[forest magnet]

i would say swap shocks for somthing else

maybe zapdos?

[plain tapir]

https://pokepast.es/718679f1bec6769d
I wanted to try and build a bulky offensive team around Baxcalibur and Kingambit, feel like fighting is abit of a problem

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

i would suggest moltes spd over zapdos.

flame body is cool and also a good phys val check

[plain tapir]

Oh okay yeah I'll definitely try that thanks dude

[forest magnet]

np

[hardy sequoia]

U can do it

[stable brook]

But socks is really good against samurott and tusk, lando, corvik… and with dondozo RH samurott (with FSash) can’t setup spikes

[thin prairie]

tusk?

[stable brook]

Ye with terra ice it’s OHKO

[forest magnet]

bro what

samurott sash kills it

[stable brook]

Nop

Well not alone

U volt switch into rocky helmet don

He can’t setup spikes with cedge cuz he dead already

And aqua jet can’t kill it in one hit

At least if he is not terra water

[stable brook]

Against Samu Lead: 252+ SpA Sandy Shocks Volt Switch vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Samurott-Hisui: 338-402 (105.2 - 125.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
You’ll need to swap into any Rocky Helmet here for the OHKO

Against Tusk: 252+ SpA Tera Ice Sandy Shocks Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Great Tusk: 604-712 (139.1 - 164%) -- guaranteed OHKO

The only potential problem is scarf samu since you can’t tell by simply looking at it…
Both Razor shell and Aqua cutter should be OHKOs against sshocks

[forest magnet]

zap also does good vs sam

dondozo

corvik

and lando if u have luck

[stable brook]

Yea zap is really a bulky one aswell… I’ll consider it

[forest magnet]

mm

[fiery sapphire]

What is the best h samm set for a Balance team

I want to use it but ive heard its exclusive to offense teams

[vocal zephyr]

need help with optimization of my team https://pokepast.es/a73c4601b39ffe52 - The core 3 I use is HSam, Gholdengo, and Drag. (I'm assuming is fairly offensive other than having a tanky Amoon and Great Tusk - Lead is HSam Pretty simple team but I feel like my type coverage and typinging in general excluding tera is lacking

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[ruby crest]

this is a very strong start, just do max max on dengo and tera fighting really useful to make up its dark weakness and not get screwed by knock if you lose covert, do defensive zapdos > scarf sneasler, cb pult > wisp 3 attacks, do 80 speed on tusk and also quake > headlong rush, gknot > giga on amoong, sludge bomb > tect, and foul play > clear smog , heres an import with the team and changes https://pokepast.es/5b1b2e7c2420cd3e

[real willow]

there's a doubles ou thread

[sleek wadi]

oh im sorry

[real willow]

https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1059655497587888158

[sleek wadi]

i saw ou and just assumed, thank you for pointing out the correct channel

[forest magnet]

for balace

swords dance as a sweeper/threats

or av as a spa wall for pult and dengo

[fervent silo]

https://pokepast.es/08978f340df02cb9

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[fervent silo]

Any ideas to improve the team?

Pretty good results so far I played for a bit and went like 11-1 or something like that

Big weaknesses I can point out is that it's kinda hard to answer iron val and fairy moves in general and I got stomped by that frosmoth aurora veil team

[forest magnet]

i hate to tell u this but in order to see if a team is really good you need to play abt 50 games

you might have played a good portion of the meta but some you might not have played vs

lemme rate ur team when i come back from dinner

[fervent silo]

I don't think this team is amazing and obviously about 12 games isn't a significant sample size

It's just my impression so far

[ruby crest]

genuine question tho but what approach are you going for here an offensive team or where you trying to make this hazard stack

[fervent silo]

I don't really have an approach I just like my two strong idiots going fast with booster energy and the rest are bulky mons that help them get into position

And then there's kingambit

He is a criminal

[vocal zephyr]

Oh shoot, thanks for all that help! I'll have to try it tonight I appreciate it

[forest magnet]

i would say go for a hazard stack team

this is because your pokemon like val and moth have booster energy and is a one time use.

hazards are very nice because they chip down the enemy getting them in better ranges for your sweepers

[fervent silo]

This gotta be factual

Anything you can recommend to put on the team?

[forest magnet]

alright i'm glad you like my idea

let me have a deeper look at your team and some weaknesses

[fervent silo]

I'm willing to replace tusk, kingambit, and rotom-w if you have any good options other than them

Or moveset changes

[forest magnet]

I noticed that your team is pretty weak to moltres. The most common moltres set spd is really strong vs your two sweepers

val can get wisped and moltres also resists your two stabs

fighting and fairy

rotom can scare it out but once the booster energy is popped then your sweepers aren't as strong.

lemme revise the team

some minor changes like movesets

[fervent silo]

Excellent 😈

Ty for putting any thought towards my team at all appreciate it 🙏🏼

[forest magnet]

np i gotchu

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/f4654cf0d6ed70ce

i didn't change any mons but i changed some movesets

some pokemon are immune to burn

so i though it would be a good idea to run t-wave

it helps vs bax

if they think u gonna wisp

u t-wave

head smash on tusk is for moltres

also u are faster than the standard moltres set

[fervent silo]

Dude I love double status rotom-w I usually use it but I switched it out for discharge this time

Also yeah head smash is crazy LMAO so heat

[forest magnet]

lmao ty

u can bait it in

and then kill with smash

wait wait

i made an error

gimmie a sec

https://pokepast.es/25a96ad99ad3edaa

here updated team

@fervent silo

[fervent silo]

That boy made of water

[forest magnet]

for a better rain matchup

knock off over eq

bc gets rid of heavy duty boots

[fervent silo]

Thanks bro ima use this team soon and will report back after a good amount of games 🔥

[forest magnet]

sure just dm me

[fervent silo]

Hell yeah

[fathom wraith]

https://pokepast.es/d45befcda767be86

can i pretty please get some help

[forest magnet]

i think i already gave u this

https://pokepast.es/ec051e757ed6c770

its like a better version of the team

if u don't like this then tell me

[pearl citrus]

What ya mates think? Any improvements I can do? Also any suggestions for the tera types?
https://pokepast.es/163b0de11e625cf5

[forest magnet]

this is more like it

nice job man

[forest magnet]

lemme improve it rq

some sets are a bit funny

https://pokepast.es/bf6df127fe73be13

here ya go

if you need explanations for my changes lemme know

[pearl citrus]

Only 3 moves for Landorus?

[forest magnet]

lmao sorry

sometimes i forget showdown does that

https://pokepast.es/414d6213585358a9

here ya go

[red dirge]

@fallow crag Can also help u kumotsu 🙂

[fallow crag]

whats up

pex should be a glowking

youre missing a move on landorus, should be turn

i think tera dragon on pult makes more sense than fairy, very rarely do you need the defense on em

[fallow crag]

by this i mean twave glowking

[vocal zephyr]

what woiuld you say is the swap into Bax on this revised team?

[ruby crest]

Not much really can switch it if you haven’t used Tera, terad tusk is good at taking it on while if it hasn’t tera you can attempt revenging it with sucker from h samu, while dengo can take hits outside of eq

[vocal zephyr]

ah gotcha, tyty. Since im fairly new with this gen in ou im struggling with knowing who to switch in cause I am not the smartest with duel typings

new player stuff

[weary crypt]

https://pokepast.es/4bc2ec9695cfc916

[fathom wraith]

i like tera ground enamorus more

discharge > thunderbolt

on zpados

and do you really want to use maushold?

[topaz fossil]

https://pokepast.es/a7b373225bbcf681

this team has gone tjrough a lot of edits

and it seems good now

but i want some feedback

[fathom wraith]

Sash hamurrot prolly better right?

And replace thunderbolt on dragapult wirh uturn

Boots isn’t necessary on corv

Rocky helmet or leftovers work instead

[topaz fossil]

what if i replace flamethrower with hydro pump too

[fathom wraith]

No ft is good

[topaz fossil]

i never find myself using it

i also find myself struggling against sandy shocks

maybe i should replace landorus?

@fathom wraith

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/c917776e400c6fb6

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[weary crypt]

It's kind of just on there for removal thats still offensive, rapid spin tusk sets lean more defensive usually and the team is pretty offense oriented

[forest magnet]

alr

lemme have a look at ur team

[ruby crest]

you could easily make this into a screens ho you already have some general mons that fit well for it, do lum berry > lefties on zama and tera dark > steel, agility iron moth, but go max max now and do tera blast ground > dgleam, cm enam > glowking, screens pult > cb, and bulky up ice spinner tusk

https://pokepast.es/89903baac65cea4a heres an import of the team with changes

[forest magnet]

sorry

my wifi is shit rn

xfinity keeps on disconnecting

[coral bloom]

https://pokepast.es/afd3e519feea7472 figured i'd try throwing good stuff together, all critique welcome

[cerulean hinge]

https://pokepast.es/e46298142e0e7582

tried making a muk team

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[safe wyvern]

https://pokepast.es/6f4c6c4d4da0b871 thoughts on this bax team i just made?

[brave moth]

https://pokepast.es/65c2fe0caa9f982e rate n roast

[ruby crest]

Well this is just the German team but with somewhat worse sets

[safe wyvern]

what’s the german team? all i know is blunder used this team at one point but i couldnt find any info abt the sets so i decided to make my own

[ruby crest]

https://pokepast.es/2d0efb84b0b0c956

[sly mauve]

I disagree with Agility Iron Moth, Screens Dragapult, and Great Tusk with no rapid spin.

Basically, the team has no hazards control.

As for Enamorus, Tera Blast, Tera Ground Iron Moth, and Lum Berry Zamazenta, I might consider them.

[sly mauve]

?

[ruby crest]

I mean your team is a lot closer to being an offensive teams just giving genuine suggestions for that direction also a lot of offensive teams especially ho don’t need hazard control

[rain gyro]

Yeah hyper offense generally doesnt use hazard control

Other than maybe having a poison type (generally in sneasler)

Because hyper offense doesn't generally do switching

So toxic spikes are the only real problem

[sly mauve]

well, what about Agility Iron Moth and Screens Dragapult?

[ruby crest]

Agility iron moth is good especially as a late win on cleaner or decent at punching up holes and screens pult is one of the best screen setters rn

[sly mauve]

ok imma just try the team for a few games

and give my thoughts

[hasty dune]

Heya! So I was trying to make a balanced offense team, and this is what I came up with:

https://pokepast.es/0a301f46202f9ee6 Gen9OU

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[hasty dune]

I feel like this team struggles against ground and water types, but maybe that’s a strategy issue on my end

Or maybe I’m not utilizing tera types very well

[forest magnet]

alr

lemme havea look at this

do you mean rain teams?

or water types in general

@hasty dune https://pokepast.es/024c2a1f8f0d5fab

here ya go

i replaced hatt with amogus

it gives good support with spore, which can force in gold and you can predict this and go to kingambit

a resist to water

check to enamorus

changed rocks for ice spinner

bc court change on cinderace is getting hazards on the enemy side

[knotty cargo]

https://pokepast.es/b5d6f44d45ca72d6 wanted to make a bulky offense team with Kingambit and bax, how is it?

[forest magnet]

its somewhat decent

i can help you out

tera water garg kinda eats up your team

your only breakers are phys

future sight breaking with glowking is good

also dozo checks most of your team

[knotty cargo]

What do I change

[forest magnet]

well lemme improve your team

i'll send it to you

then we can go from there

[knotty cargo]

That can work

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/2c00790ca51a10ff

i feel like ting lu is not really needed because its too passive and also you have no way to keep hazards up

[knotty cargo]

Fair

Thank you

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/9c0d2ff4b2900248

wait

i think this would be better.

[knotty cargo]

Moltres? I’m intrigued

[forest magnet]

nvm

its a bad idea

[knotty cargo]

Oh

[forest magnet]

use the first team

hazard removal is better

[knotty cargo]

Ah ok

[forest magnet]

yeah

[hasty dune]

Alrighty, thanks for the help!

[forest magnet]

np

if you have any questions, dm me for more help

[hasty dune]

Alrighty

[vocal zephyr]

I made a small swap to my team from RC Amoon to Scarf Meow, because this allows me make use of the stab I get with protean and the speed of Meow is very good. As well as what feels to me like a more comfortable move pool. I also feel that it flows better on the team but i think now makes the team on the offensive side. what is your opinion on this? Do you think the change is ok or what flaws does it add, also ive been loving the optimizations you made as well. https://pokepast.es/9fd79911d7b696c8

[forest magnet]

nice team, its really weak to rain tho

also i think you should run spa dragapult

phys def pult is not needed

meow is really good alr

u alr have samurott

but i think u might wanna use it as sd or sash

also rocks on tusk is kinda bad for your slower paced team

i think you should run ice spinner

[vocal zephyr]

Mmm I see, I could def go choice on drag. Ice spinner would benefit a lot I'll swap that. What are the benefits of running swords on Sam or Focus sash over AV, asking cause I don't know

[forest magnet]

well its a good late game sweeper

[vocal zephyr]

Ah

[forest magnet]

u don't really got a sweeper

[vocal zephyr]

What would you say the teams main lead is then, since I added Meow it's been that

Ah

[forest magnet]

meow tbh

[vocal zephyr]

You think I could swap to Sam to King or too much cause no more water

[forest magnet]

but if u see a moltres then go to zap

[vocal zephyr]

What would zap have for moltres

[forest magnet]

discharge

[ruby crest]

Meow is a bit unnecessary

[vocal zephyr]

Oooh

[vocal zephyr]

What move would you give up for discharge

[ruby crest]

Speed isn’t an issue with pult and priority from samu, Amoong on the other gives you a lot of things like an actual water resist check to some stuff like iron Val and enam, and just an overall solid defensive backbone for a lot of stuff

[forest magnet]

tbh i like the defensive version

[forest magnet]

true

amogus is pretty good

saves u from rain with red card

• spore

@ruby crest nice

[vocal zephyr]

Ah gotcha

Should I still stick with physical Drag is I go back to amoon rc

[ruby crest]

You also actually take on garg a lot better which otherwise is a big annoyance even more so sicne this ain’t offensive sappy

[ruby crest]

Physical drag is fine

Even more so with this team you heavily pressure a lot of stuff that can be big roadblocks for it making it spam moves much more effectively as matches goes on

[forest magnet]

well it looks like u and them alr got it figured out i'll leave u guys

[vocal zephyr]

I appreciate it though

[forest magnet]

np

[vocal zephyr]

Hmm ok then, I think what I lack as a player is the idea of the team and how it's supposed to play as for checks

The original team is Sam as lead

Into pult (if needed)

[forest magnet]

leads aren't gonna always be the same

[vocal zephyr]

Yeee

[forest magnet]

they are going to be VERY matchup dependent

we can play some matches so you can get the idea of leads with that team

[vocal zephyr]

That'd be good, I could in like 15 minutes if you still can by then

[forest magnet]

sure ping me

[vocal zephyr]

Ok tyty

[forest magnet]

@vocal zephyr i'm so sorry

i need to go its an emergency

[vocal zephyr]

Oh no worries homie, you do what you gotta do and I hope all is well

[nocturne dagger]

if they run sash on samurott then it can suicide lead most games

[naive stirrup]

https://pokepast.es/762a92202930903d Hi! Please fix my team. All of my mons except Samurott is working well on me. Since maybe samurott isn't that fast enough to do damage? Idk. I am also thinking on using Scarf Washtom then go specs Valiant too. Is that fine? Since I have too many speed control if I add up Scarf valiant?

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[naive stirrup]

WashTom will be a so good Pivot around my team.

[forest magnet]

why would u tho

[forest magnet]

we can do two things about this

we can swap samurott for zapdos or slowking

also some minor changes

[naive stirrup]

What changes

[naive stirrup]

Maybe Zapdos. But wht changes do I need

[forest magnet]

like tera types

[forest magnet]

alr

lemme fix our team and we will go from there

[naive stirrup]

On wut mons

[forest magnet]

*your

[naive stirrup]

On lando Forgot to run tera water.

On corv idk what to pick, maybe tera ground? And bax, idk

[forest magnet]

corv, bax etc..

[naive stirrup]

Aight

[forest magnet]

why are you running focus blast on scarf?

i think cc would be better for blissey etc..

[naive stirrup]

Hmm mixed ryt

[forest magnet]

focus is inconsistent

[naive stirrup]

Hmm ya. I lost 1v1 vs Gambit cuz of misses

Well is scarf Valiant rlly good here? I might run specs instead

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/168ac140f1ac4872

@naive stirrup

i'll explain the changes if needed

[naive stirrup]

Grass knot?

[forest magnet]

ah people always ask about this lol

[naive stirrup]

But this looks so good to me ngl

[naive stirrup]

Ya

[forest magnet]

grass knot even though its not very strong (coming from lando's spa stat)

it will do about 80% to most defensive tusks.

[naive stirrup]

Oh tusks

A

[forest magnet]

yeah

[naive stirrup]

Ya ya makes sense

[forest magnet]

its a trap

bc val is obvious

[naive stirrup]

That's so good trap

[forest magnet]

yeah

everything good?

or do you want to make some changes

[naive stirrup]

Hmm yaa ig. Though Specs Ghold spamming shadow balls seems not comfortable but yeah, we hab Spdef lando here

[forest magnet]

you have to correctly position yourself

[naive stirrup]

Wait that CC on Valiant is so good against Heatran

[forest magnet]

its not always just pivot to lando then pivot back

[forest magnet]

yeah

[naive stirrup]

Need to figure it out. But I didn't lose to gholdengo so far

Anyways, thanks again!

[forest magnet]

np

i can play some games with u if you want @naive stirrup

to test out teams

[naive stirrup]

Need to rest now haha. Maybe tmrw

Thanks again

[forest magnet]

kk

[inland elm]

https://pokepast.es/e9becbd38f5d1c34 any improvements

[forest magnet]

nicknames are gold

brooo

my dad is crazy

[fierce basin]

Ur naive w 4 special attacks, u prob meant to make val cc over blast

[forest magnet]

yeah im changing it for them

https://pokepast.es/430164850a42ac97

@inland elm

i feel like this is good

but no hazard controll is tough

i think you should swap samurott for tusk

[wise tangle]

https://pokepast.es/260a03e771bad915

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

what are you trying to achive?

what playstyle

we can go from there

[wise tangle]

Wdum playstyle

[forest magnet]

this team is kind of a mess rn

you just have random mons with weird sets

do u want me to improve the team without changing the mons?

or swap mons out

[inland elm]

alright

[inland elm]

wait it has blast

i thought i put cc there

[inland elm]

ok

[vernal prism]

https://pokepast.es/3a11bf8931149585 I'll be honest, I have no idea what I'm doing with this, other than I wanted to build around hoopa and try to include heatran

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[vernal prism]

Also considering amoongus for last slot, just need something that can check enamorous decently well

[grizzled scarab]

https://pokepast.es/e481d880405f33dd ive tried to build a team with molt kanto what should i change here.

[fierce basin]

Suicide lead doesn't rly make sense w 2 sturdy switchins imo, maybe try mystic water SD hamurott over sash if you can bring yourself to not lead it every game

Also I've never played cloak amoong but does it do enough to garg without grass knot?

[grizzled scarab]

Hm yeaa although giga can make me recover a bit

[fierce basin]

Yeah I get it. I prefer giga myself usually but I also haven't used it as a garg check

[limber bough]

https://pokepast.es/410a89d0457cae18
Anyone mind giving me their thoughts? I know I'm severely lacking in Fire/Water coverage.

[fallen shale]

personally id run scarf valiant

and dd roost dnite

You really don't wanna be locked into espeed with no boosts other than band

boots are also really valuable

[limber bough]

Why Scarf Valiant here? Dnite makes sense I think, though the immediate +2 priority power is tempting and very useful

[wise tangle]

Alright

[fallen shale]

sure but if you run into anything that can tank it (literally any ghost, nacl or something mildly bulky with recovery like corvi or pex), considering you have no dedicated defensive options on that team you might be forced into a losing position

forced to sac something when everything may be key in HO

not HO but like close to it

[ruby crest]

What is your goal you are trying to go for here some bo or offensive team also really dislike how heavily physical oriented this team is

[fiery sapphire]

Hmmm I want to make a hazard stack team with H samm + glimmora but I'm not sure if they synergize well.

https://pokepast.es/bd5c8627b7ca4949

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor, @forest magnet. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[ruby crest]

Not sure how I feel about duel hazard stacks in a screens ho

Your giving up a lot. Of screen turns to attempt and get ur hazards up

[fiery sapphire]

Yeah i might just use something else over glimmora. I do want to use H samm though

[ruby crest]

Could do something like dd baxc, gambit

Also make this cm enam tbh

[fiery sapphire]

Hmm should i use glimmora or dragapult

I got dd baxc, sd gambit, enam, gholdengo, and H samm but do I use dragapult, glimora, or great tusk as the final mon

Defensive tusk could make it double hazard BO or somethin like that

[fierce basin]

Suicide lead w screens is fine just send out the glimm before the pult, but with a style like that no point in the AV samu. Honestly I think if you just make the samu mystic water and sd you'll be better off

[fierce basin]

@ this team

I'd also make the screens pult t wave over darts but I guess that's preference

[fiery sapphire]

Hmmm dondozo seems like it may be a problem https://pokepast.es/780a64d87777e7ff

[fierce basin]

I also think you might want to make the pult tera steel so if a bad calibur swords dances it doesn't just ice shard all your guys and you can t wave it

Baxcalibur

[ruby crest]

Dozo mu is fine enam and dengo can give overwhelm especially when under screen and if you remove hdb from it it constantly switching gives it issue with hazards up

[viscid delta]

https://pokepast.es/10600838bb5a6763 any thoughts on this team + how to make it less weak to bax switch-in? thanks 🙂

[fiery sapphire]

Save rotom and try your best to burn the bax, its a very versatile mon so its hard to swap in once its already gotten going. So try to stop it before it starts.

[viscid delta]

thanks! lil problem is thermal exchange hahah

that makes rotom not very useful as it will make 20% at best, giving a free set up

[fiery sapphire]

Oh ye forgot about thermal exchange, hmm maybe use t wave instead of will o wisp?

[viscid delta]

hmmm

what about dropping thunderbolt for t wave and seeing how it goes? hahah

[forest magnet]

run spd moltres over heatran.

[still perch]

Sucks ass as I just started, but what could be improved and maintained?

[ruby crest]

Honestly this is a samples moment a lot of these sets are just weird or not good at all especially when a lot of these mons as well don’t synergies with each other

[still perch]

What is a samples moment?

[forest magnet]

you just cobbled sample sets together and prayed

like 2/3 of your team is weak to ice