[DO NOT USE][ARCHIVED] SV OU Rates

[wispy night]

?

[tired arrow]

I thought you had 5 moves

[wispy night]

Realizing now clefable and politoed are not in sv, replacing with prankster murkow and something else

[wispy night]

Oh ok

[tired arrow]

uhh prankster murkrow doesn't work on singles ou

[wispy night]

I’m building for doubles, am in the wrong post?

[tired arrow]

yes

[steep garden]

This ou

[wispy night]

Sorry I’m new what exactly is ou mean?

[steep garden]

Craun might you be as so kind to give my team a gander?

[steep garden]

Ou is the primary tier for smogon singles

[wispy night]

Oh ok which thread is Scarlet violet doubles?

[tired arrow]

wut

[steep garden]

As the name standards for over used it's the tier where Pokémon not banned to Ubers reside if their usage reaches approx 3.4%?

[steep garden]

Sorry I'm Scottish lol. A gander means to have a look at

[tired arrow]

uhh I'm not a professional rater so idk

sorry

[steep garden]

Np Tom

[tired arrow]

[tropic ice]

https://pokepast.es/e0732eef917f3ed9
Attempt at voltturn

[ruby crest]

this team could use a ghost resist and doesn need 3 steels, a ghost resist like garg > heatran can work, and then something like pivot gking > scizor can be nice for iron val and enam, also make corv an id defogger because you want hazard control here, doing this does make the team a bit passive tho if your feeling for an extra change and corv aint it you can do physdef tusk > tran and gambit > corv, gking change will remain sciz is just random tbh the revenging helps but doesnt cover anything in particular that the other mons wouldnt do

[steep garden]

Just bumping this due to all the chatter

[tropic ice]

Tbh sciz was just in because I built zap + sciz last gen and liked it

Losing Roost sucks

Thanks for the recommendations!

[ruby crest]

https://pokepast.es/9cae772e9bf97344 heres an import with the first changes, and https://pokepast.es/cd449355035a2de3 the alternative version

[tropic ice]

Thank you

[ruby crest]

this is a solid start do defesive tusk > offensive, bulky sd gambit > offensive, red card amoong > donzo, could do some cool stuff with iron val like knock > tbolt and destiny bond > psyshock, and for torn-t you can consider focus blast occasionally for heatran while still hitting non tera gargs, and gambits harders, you want some bulk for sure could do 216 speed with timid max hp and the rest dumped in spdef, also cane > bleakwind the damage output is much more relevant then "more" accurate hits

[hoary raven]

https://pokepast.es/8d764b6d4076aea8

[viral sable]

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[hoary raven]

teraghost on treads to have an attempt at stopping sneasler

and ghold is the anti-zama pokemon

ran modest wake bc timid only really outspeeds enam

it is still a goofy ladder team, after all, and i need help modding/improving it

[regal rock]

https://pokepast.es/ea18b91f5e3fd63d hi! i'm having trouble deciding if scizor or scarf gholdengo is the better fit here, any opinions?

[odd depot]

Ghouldengo, there's a major lack in special attackers, which leaves you vulnerable to burns.

[regal rock]

ok thanks! other than that does the team look solid enough?

[odd depot]

Unfortunately I don't see a direction you're trying to get to with this team, what we're you trying to accomplish?

[regal rock]

hrm it was a bulky offense team built around the zamazenta-hoopa core tbh

[odd depot]

I've got to sleep soon, so I'll call in someone else to help you out.

@ruby crest

This dude needs some advice.

Well, good night.

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/fada1e1342d79e8b

here is a better team

pretty much the same thing tho

[regal rock]

ah yes i saw this actually! was just trying to see if kingambit could replace garg bc i felt it was a bit passive, which led me to considering gholdengo to replace scizor

or is garg just better in this team?

[forest magnet]

yeah

beats moltres

[silver roost]

https://pokepast.es/b78e1c04e2d4ed7d

[viral sable]

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[silver roost]

thoughts?

[silver roost]

haxorus was jus slapped on cus nothing came to my mind

glowking is the sp def tank n tusk is the phy def tank along with setter n spinner

thundurus-t is the main special attacker

grass knot to ohko tusks

kingambit to sweep late game

basculegion doin wave crash stuff

[lapis saffron]

https://pokepast.es/7215917c1cbd3d53 wanted to build with torn-t so i threw this up

[coral bloom]

Feel like Roaring Moon, Dragonite and Baxcalibur are all better dragon dancers than haxorus. Bax might be nice to synergise with chilly reception

[solemn marsh]

https://pokepast.es/e1724e03682dd8f5

[forest magnet]

just use tera steel for wake

[lapis saffron]

id rather have the ability to break azu

and have good damage on tera heatran without the draco drop

[hoary raven]

https://pokepast.es/ea5460c73823afc4 built around CB swing and agility wake

[hidden saffron]

are there any good gen 8 ou teams that can play in gen 9 ou

or like gen 8 teams with tiny bit of gen 9

[astral crane]

Yo rate me these two

https://pokepast.es/81dab48e35c38f8d

https://pokepast.es/29af7687da1ef2f5

[viral sable]

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[astral crane]

I did cook to 1500 with that Sun team

[fathom wraith]

https://pokepast.es/0421011ff5c0a6a4 thinnking about swapping pex for clod

[viral sable]

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[fathom wraith]

or glowking

[forest magnet]

sandy shocks rubs its balls over your team

[fathom wraith]

☹️

would glowking be better than pex then?

or clod

[random wolf]

Thoughts?
https://pokepast.es/b46469d807c5f94e

Tried to do sun

[silver roost]

thanks mate

[astral crane]

any tips?

[deep carbon]

https://pokepast.es/1b7fd5875bb18637 hey this is my first any advice ?

[viral sable]

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[forest magnet]

swap garchomp for hamurott

[forest magnet]

swap orb for expert belt or boots on shocks

other than that its decent

[forest magnet]

i'll rate the sun on bc you said you did better on that one

swap garg for shocks

[astral crane]

just that?

and all good?

[forest magnet]

yeah sun is mostly HO

[forest magnet]

ur team is very volatile tho

so all u need to do is just play too

[wind tulip]

How can i improve this sun team? https://pokepast.es/2cadc7e9145b28d8

[forest magnet]

don't use scovillian

[wind tulip]

So what over it? Lili-Hisui?

[forest magnet]

replace hurricane on wake for dragon pluse

[forest magnet]

yeah

or arcanine-hisui

[wind tulip]

Alr thx

[static nebula]

https://pokepast.es/39c4a4596d745753 what should I add or remove

[viral sable]

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[astral crane]

I still need some tip for this

I don't want to use sun anymore

[ruby crest]

this is just literally a sample team...

[rain gyro]

sample rate

deathly

[brave moth]

https://pokepast.es/e645a28fd50c26ee rate and roast

[forest magnet]

top 10 times i wanna jump

[forest magnet]

um

i would say just not use that team

i can't rlly help

[fickle salmon]

Hi! I have a sun team I’d like to be rated. I don’t really know what to do with my last slot. I’ve filled with it Ceruledge, but I’m still trying to figure out how best to use Ceruledge.

The team

Torkoal - sun, but also attempts to act as a counter to H-samurrot setup. The flamethrower can hit really hard. I don’t find myself getting rocks up often, usually the other lead can just immediately kill torkoal, or I’ll choose to attack the lead with a flame thrower or spin if it’s H-Samurott

Wake - my main wall breaker, it hits very hard, doesn’t often one shot but makes space for my sweeper

Roaring moon - I use this for end game sweeping, but honestly I’ve been having trouble using him to do that, I struggle to sweep with it at the end

Great tusk - gets attack bonus in the sun, has tons of defence to tank. I want it to come in and hit really hard and then Eject out to either wake, roaring or Ceruledge

Hatterene - Also has tons of defence, used to come in, take a hit and immediately pivot into one of the 3 mons mentioned above. Also acts as a great check to garg, and can act as a surprise sweeper

Ceruledge - Excellent mon, can switch in to take a hit and then hit hard. Sneak to help speed coverage. Solar blade one shots great tusk. Bitter blade let’s it stay in forever. Weak armour allows it to make a surprise sweep with the speed boost. I just have no idea when to bring in Ceruledge to use it best.

Problems

I really really struggle against hazard stack teams. I specifically am having a very hard time against H-Samurott. H-Samurott just takes so many hits before it goes down and deals too much damage to my team. When it’s ballon gholdengo + H-Samurott, the game get really difficult.

https://pokepast.es/1cfe1a1d22f54141

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[forest magnet]

use hsama then spin

[fickle salmon]

Can you explain for me please

Who spins and do you mean put hsamurott on this team?

[real willow]

Don't you need 244 SpA EVs to get the proto speed boost?

[fickle salmon]

For which mon?

[real willow]

Wake

[fickle salmon]

I want it to get the SpA proto boost to hit heavy

Is that a bad idea?

[real willow]

Not necessarily

If you want the proto special attack boost then just give it max special attack

Main thing to keep in mind with protosynthesis

[forest magnet]

tusk

for spikes

[real willow]

If it boosts speed it is a 50% boost (basically the boost from choice scarf)

[forest magnet]

sama instead oh hatt

but leave it to the pro

[real willow]

If it boosts special attack it only gets a 30% boost

Basically the boost from a life orb

Also, Torkoal should probably have a +Defense nature since you're investing in Defense

[delicate warren]

do i just post a team here to be rated?

[real willow]

Yep

Preferably a pokepaste

[delicate warren]

i think i used a team similar to this a while ago, this looks like very standard sun

one thing i can suggest if you're facing off against a lead samurott, is immediately send out your walking wake and drop a draco

244 SpA Choice Specs Walking Wake Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Samurott-Hisui: 435-513 (135.5 - 159.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

especially if you're having trouble keeping hazards off the field, leading off with a mon that just slaughters the lead helps alot

[real willow]

Should be careful about locking into draco

If ur opp leads hamu, it's likely sash

[delicate warren]

yeah it's kind of a fifty fifty. between pulse and draco. i've personally encountered more scarf samurotts, which is what informs my decision

[delicate warren]

if it were me though, i'd take off ceruledge and replace it with moltres. moltres adds a good bit of defensive utility against fighting types, fairy types, it can harass a bit against kingambit with scald (if not tera fire), and imo can work a bit more as a glue. it doesn't stop the samurott, but it covers up against alot more things and can ease the load off of tusk

[astral crane]

goodly or badly

[jaunty prawn]

https://pokepast.es/5f4cb83cce38b8e0

what do you think? i'm fairly new so don't hesitate for some explanations

[viral sable]

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[fluid blaze]

Rate my team pls https://pokepast.es/130a4dfc51e6ebca

[jaunty prawn]

just tried replacing iron moth with amoonguss and replaced rotom's thinderbolt with hex

[copper fable]

https://pokepast.es/345ebb9871482db7
Random idea that's been living rent free in the back of my head for a while now.

rn Hazard Plan is just power through before they become a problem because I'm a man.

Speaking of hazard game
also just realized I forgot to put rocks somewhere

whoops.

[cyan sequoia]

So, I’m back to playing after a few months and volcarona is a Uber now, how can I replace it?
https://pokepast.es/e3774e9ebd8cdf12

[ruby crest]

just build fresh tbh the metagame has changed a lot

[ruby crest]

yeah no rocks or hazard control is kinda balls especially how much the stacking becomes relevant if zappy or volc lose hdb,

[copper fable]

coward
okay but seriously
the only hazard control rn is like, Tusk, but I don't that mon even fits, and only excerbates the already horrendous Zap MU.

[ruby crest]

well tusk vastly improves the gambit mu here

[copper fable]

What do I do abt Zap

[ruby crest]

im fine with zap here if anything im more concerned about speed control with replacing lando and just picking what you want glowking here for its useful resistance but then no speed tier unless you do iron val or something over wake and volc

[copper fable]

The original point of the team was to try Volcan + Wake, and even if I did replace Volc idt Slowking alone is saving me VS Rain rn, so I have to keep Volcanion one way or another.

https://pokepast.es/3b06c8589f6087d3

[ruby crest]

Volc and wake is fine against rain tbh

[ruby crest]

Regardless still think gking is better here

[copper fable]

AV or Physdef?

[ruby crest]

Pivot set

[copper fable]

https://pokepast.es/0e89caab110c6d58

[ruby crest]

This looks fine do 80 speed on tusk and Tera fairy on wake

[copper fable]

What does 80 Speed do

[ruby crest]

You outspeed non scarf enams at +1

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/348b4125ac8dd185 agility wake HO

[viral sable]

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[fierce basin]

I'd prob run lefties over life orb on tusk. Since it has to be in setting up for a couple turns to do anything it benefits from the longevity

[grizzled scarab]

ive tried to do a team with moltress kanto should i change something here ? or is unviable ig https://pokepast.es/406bc62dd343b3d4

[cobalt shadow]

Tbh sacred sword over taunt over samurott-h would be better for kingambit and rm

And why moonblast valiant

Imo dont run mixed

Ur better running special or physical valianr

[fickle salmon]

Replace boots on valiant with like expert belt or something

You want valiant to come in a hit something really hard

Best to just pick physical or special and then give it a band or specs

[grizzled scarab]

oh thought could work

imma run physical then

so i jsut run the encore + sd ig?

[main totem]

Looking to improve my sun team even further
https://pokepast.es/dfdbcab48475518e

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[ruby crest]

didnt you posted a version of this team like a while back?

[main totem]

I did, but I want to improve it further

[ruby crest]

theres not much else to improve it further for the way i rated it since thats as far as it can be for how it, only ways to improve it is if something you used gave you issue to improve certain things

[sly mauve]

dark spam bullshit i dont know https://pokepast.es/f80c37e1819d78e7

[viral sable]

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[surreal bloom]

I rate the nicks 7/10

lancey fire

[sly mauve]

team kinda loses to rain

[sly mauve]

ayyy

[jaunty prawn]

https://pokepast.es/ba911672b61734ca

hello, don't hesitate to explain some issues, i'm still a noob

[charred spear]

I’d swap surf off dragapult for u turn. You don’t really have enough pivots to let your other mons in

Im not sure how good super power is on enamorus with no attack Investment

I have grass knot as my last move on it and using specs

[jaunty prawn]

sorry i don't understand the u-turn thing, what do i gain from the non-invested chip damage if it's almost just as good or safer to switch normally?

[charred spear]

It’s not used for damage it’s a pivoting move

You may be in a situation where Dragapault has an advantage and the opponent may switch out so it’s better to u turn on that switch and bring in something strong against what they brought in

[jaunty prawn]

yeah but if i'm anticipating an enemy switch, i may just switch manually, no? the only difference i see is the chip damage and i don't feel like it's going to be meaningul uninvested

or does the chip damage matter enough?

[charred spear]

Because you’re guaranteed to know what they’ll switch into and chip can be good for putting mons into ko range, break focus sashes and to hide what set your Dragapault is using

Surf doesn’t add anything for Dragapault. Your better off hitting them with draco meteor or shadow ball

[ruby crest]

you can easily make this an offensive screens team do taunt > dclaw on moon, and just do max max atk booster is a lot better for the damage more so after a dragon dance, do max max as well on gambit and do lum berry > glasses, make this cm stored power hatt and bu offensive great tusk, screens dragapult > zapdos, and cm ghost iron val > tran

[sly mauve]

ty

[ruby crest]

its not just the chip but its making free momentum because you can use u turn while they are switching and that makes it a lot easier to respond accordingly

[jaunty prawn]

oooh thats true i forgot about that! thanks for your time

[charred spear]

Np happy to give advice

[jaunty prawn]

btw i prefer superpower on the enamorus because it allows me to tank a hit from sash samurott better,

and it can be a bootleg wallbreaker sometimes

[charred spear]

If it works

You can use it

[ruby crest]

you have decent speed control already with pult and sort of enam along with priority in the back with kingambit, so you can do physdef rotom-w instead of scarf, the 4 investment into spdef is whatever and wont do much may as well just slot that into attack on enam, as mentioned do u turn > surf on pult and tera dragon > fire, make this physdef lefties great tusk with quake > cc, tera water, and some speed to creep non scarf enams after a spin, you can approach kingambit two different ways here one is bulky sd lefties and the other is one with air ballon tera ghost for dnite (you do have a physdef washer for it but extra endurance is always nice if you feel uncomfy), and pivot gking > iron moth

[buoyant prawn]

https://pokepast.es/a3c0bf787e992253 i need some minor changes to this team i keep getting swept by swords dance sneasler

@green citrus

@ruby crest

[ruby crest]

Sneasler mu is indeed rough tho not sure what can go here without something “passive” or removing something important here

[buoyant prawn]

maybe i need cute charm enam with psychic instead of superpower?

[forest magnet]

swap wash for dozo

[buoyant prawn]

but then i cant get rid of kingambit can i

or i can

ok

[ruby crest]

You have tusk

[forest magnet]

run body press on dozo if u hate gambit

[ruby crest]

Actually

[buoyant prawn]

i do have zama-h

[ruby crest]

Hmm what if we do Tera poison zama

[buoyant prawn]

and what if i do my own swords dance sneasler instead of shadow claw

[ruby crest]

If you don’t like sclaw other options are like acro, fire punch, and Tera blast ground

Wait

[buoyant prawn]

i wanna try swords dance itself

[ruby crest]

I’m blind

[buoyant prawn]

coz i know it sweeps

[ruby crest]

Yeah you can definitely go sd here

[buoyant prawn]

sd air balloon seems the best

[ruby crest]

Yep

[buoyant prawn]

what ev spread for dozo

Dondozo @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Unaware
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature

• Liquidation
• Curse
• Rest
• Sleep Talk

[ruby crest]

Yeah this is fine not sure about helm boots is a lot of the times better

Also moveset varies depending what you want dozo to do and beat

[buoyant prawn]

i wonder what tera i should do

[ruby crest]

I like Tera fairy for baxc and friends

[buoyant prawn]

any changes to enam?

i kinda like enam rn

my scarf user does wonders

[ruby crest]

It’s fine as it is like you said you can do psychic cute charm as well or just keep it as it is

[quick bluff]

https://pokepast.es/6aee591569a69a44

[viral sable]

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[jaunty prawn]

thanks for the details! what set should i have on the galar slowking though? i never played it

also, if i play physdefensive rotom , isn't it bad not to have any spedefensive poke given i already have tusk?

[ruby crest]

You can invest spdef over physdef on gking

[jaunty prawn]

oh i see

[torn lodge]

https://pokepast.es/4d873935f31a3b04

I'll explain the iron leaves choice right off the bat

it serves as a panic switch in to a bunch of gargs weaknesses

and double scarf is always funny

unfortunately I think my gambit weakness is big on this team

[ruby sierra]

https://pokepast.es/a6878c931d98deff

So I made this. Been testing with it and it's done pretty well. Peaked so far at #141 on ladder and I'm sitting like 160 something rn. Issues I noticed include ID garg, fat teams with ting lu, and bax in general but specifically the German 6 being spammed in ladder. I don't think it's a bad team by any means but if there's a way to elevate it to that next level that I'm missing I'd like the feedback. 👍

[unique fulcrum]

https://pokepast.es/3328a49c054a24dc

[viral sable]

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[unique fulcrum]

modified the sample team with banded tusk and specs pult made by storm zone

i didn't like the defensive core he was using so i changed it

any feedback is super welcome!

[ruby crest]

Yeah not sure why you would modify a sample team especially when the selected mons are chosen for a reason

[unique fulcrum]

just not sure what reason

like a physdef tran?

no pivoting moves from a defensive core into pult and tusk?

like im not too great at ou so if someone knows why storm zone chose to run these mons it would be pretty enlightening

and the only hazard removal on that team is rapid spin on a band tusk

and heatran is air balloon so it gets chipped by hazards easily

just a little confused at the logic behind his choice of mons

[ruby crest]

I mean regardless even without knowing you shouldn’t really modify a sample team, fwiw flame body heatran is just meant to crippl physical attackers especially those that will be clicking u turn most of time, kingambit is obligatory ghost resist, and pex is a water resist that also can check things like Enam and iron Val

[unique fulcrum]

understandable

is there another way to use band tusk then?

i really like the idea of it

[queen grove]

https://pokepast.es/d2d63a14dce6ee78 my attempt to climb to top 500 with this team, using my favorites and on the meta, any suggestions?

[unique fulcrum]

but the sample team is just a little iffy for me

[ruby crest]

First time using a storm zone team ?

[unique fulcrum]

yeah dude

pretty new to gen 9 ou

as well

only starte a few weeks ago

[ruby crest]

Well as always if you feel weird with a sample team there are others to use

But don’t modify them it goes agains the purpose of the sample team especially when the given mons are specific for a reason

[unique fulcrum]

thanks for advice

ill try the sample a few more times and see if i can get a grip for it

[ruby crest]

You can easily make this a more offensive team if this is what you where going for

[queen grove]

enlighen me

enlighten*

[ruby crest]

do sash lead h samu, bu speed booster energy tusk, lefties cm hatt, screens pult > specs, boots on baxc and crash spear, and do black glasses offensive sd gambit

[queen grove]

why screens pult tho?

[ruby crest]

Just screen support helps making ur setup sweepers much more threatening

[queen grove]

hmmm can I use someone else for that?

[ruby crest]

pult is the best screener right now next best bet will be grimmsnarl which is just meh

[queen grove]

i'll try it, even if i waste pult's attack potential

[ruby crest]

its fine pult is pretty speedy and has good utility to make it very effective

[queen grove]

soo i'm doin dual screens, will-o and shadow ball

with clay

[ruby crest]

https://pokepast.es/e6d2e9b59544a8bd heres an import of a team

[queen grove]

tks

[queen grove]

i'll lyk on my results

[queen grove]

can i switch the tusk set? the lack of rapid spin is affecting me

i'm thinking switching bulk for rapid and some hp evs into attack

[ruby crest]

If you struggle with hazards you can drop headlong then

[queen grove]

i mean magic boune is meant for that but is hard to switch it in

bounce

[ruby crest]

Yeah I understand so like I said do spin > headlong

Actually cc

[queen grove]

hm, and the ev spread??

[ruby crest]

Just the same

[queen grove]

ok, i'll lyk then

[warm dust]

Hi. Made my first team today

https://pokepast.es/3f1b2d055e808249
Tell me anything, dont mind criticism

[viral sable]

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[strong vapor]

Do Greninja with Life Orb instead of choice specs with hydro pump/surf, dark pulse, ice beam, grass knot. You can also try U-turn here in grass knot, (idk if that would work or smth), you can also replace it with hisuian samurott.

[grizzled scarab]

https://pokepast.es/07f1d1bf545fde14 what should i change here? i i feel like im very weak to stuff like cresselia

[warm dust]

There are a couple things outspeeding me that are my concern like booster energy mons and rain barraskewda, so i thought water shuriken is a nice priority / stab (and iconic)

[strong vapor]

What booster energy mons you're struggling on?

[warm dust]

None rn but when it reaches lategame and i just need a priority move

I just think i got checks for anything effective by grass hence ignored grassknot

[warm dust]

I only got to use the team for 2 games since i just switched from ss to sv

Thanks for the feedback, anything other than the gren?

[strong vapor]

Hmmm

I think you can try Iron moth in here

For late game of course

[warm dust]

Whod you swap?

[strong vapor]

Make sure do like this:

Iron Moth with
Fiery Dance
Energy ball
Dazzling Gleam
Sludge Wave/Tera Blast Ground
With 252 speed ivs, 132 sp attack and the others on Def. You can also try Tera grass to not get killed by eq

[warm dust]

Whos going out

[strong vapor]

Uhh, I'll try to figure it out

[warm dust]

Aight ill try the life orb gren first

[strong vapor]

Roaring moon @warm dust

[warm dust]

Aight ill give it a shot and hit you up if i get in trouble

Cheers man

[warm dust]

Timid or modest?

[strong vapor]

Timid

[near karma]

i've been playing a glowbro team for a little while now and wanted to learn if there was anything i could do to improve it/glaring weaknesses?

https://pokepast.es/5428ee6393ae02a7

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[quiet fjord]

you trying to make semi stall? Just asking

[muted dirge]

that looks nothing like semi stall

that's pretty much an offensive team

[nocturne dagger]

how

[real willow]

this looks like a weird semi stall team

with like

some randomly offensive mons

like max attack boom garg and muscle band gambit

you also don't have rocks, nor hazard control

[nocturne dagger]

also no hazards or hazard removal

yeah i was gonna say

[real willow]

also

!pokepaste

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[real willow]

uh

image fail

!pokepaste

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[real willow]

there

[nocturne dagger]

i would switch amnesia for either rocks or spikes on clod

[real willow]

recommend spikes > amnesia on clodsire fs

move garganacl's attack investment into its defenses, give it stealth rock and protect

leftovers/heavy-duty boots > muscle band, kowtow cleave > x-scissor on kingambit

could also invest in some speed to outspeed min speed corviknight

tho tbh not entirely sure how well it fits on this team

would also recommend liquidation > wave crash on dondozo

yeah you definitely need hazard control if you're using so few boots mons

otherwise hamurott will spam ceaseless edge on your team and your team will just get worn down by spikes

[real willow]

I know that monoclaw is just a screens ho team

and without them I'm not sure how glowbro consistently deals damage

what are zapdos/zamazenta's natures again?

[nocturne dagger]

x scissor on kingambit is also weird it doesn't cover any of darks or steels resists except dark and if you want that low kick is probably better

[real willow]

(to clodsire) you also don't super need slowking galar here

you're just stacking ground immunities

you have 5 ground weaks and the 6th is neutral

[strong vapor]

https://pokepast.es/217a4ad0031717f5 Hisuian Samurott Rain Team

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[barren stone]

https://pokepast.es/17a07c3b89da5e61

How’s this?

Wanted to build around AV pex so here’s like a (balance?) team that I feel like has been doing solid

[barren stone]

Idt I’d go wo-chien on the team idk

And hurricane over heat wave on zap

No chilling water on bliss either, I’d reccomend just using the sample set for it

Lastly you still need hazard removal

Rapid spin preferably

I’d go with great tusk

[real willow]

Idt blissey is helpful tbh

[real willow]

good

also helps you vs opposing gambit

[nocturne dagger]

if you run rocks on tusk then you should swap to spikes on clod

i would also switch discharge for thunderbolt cuz you’re already running t-wave

or swap t-wave for hurricane or volt switch paralysis isn’t as useful for stall teams

[real willow]

you could also viably run eq/knock/ice/spin tusk

and keep rocks on clodsire

letting you spin on balloon gholdengo and hitting pult on the switch is nice

[nocturne dagger]

that works too

[real willow]

also

drop spa on zapdos

I think the defensive zapdos set is more helpful for your team to handle grounds

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/zapdos/

[warm dust]

hi i need help

https://pokepast.es/d63def0dff15c320

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[warm dust]

whats a good 6th pokemon? i put diancie before w assault vest but didnt feel like it was working as i dont switch in to it alot (i got fairy and ground moves alrdy)

[nocturne dagger]

you have 3 special attackers and zero physical

[warm dust]

it used to have roaring moon over iron moth, but someone here recommended it

it works in low elo i guess cause it checks some things like gholdengo etc

[nocturne dagger]

you also have 2 physical defensive mons and zero special

[warm dust]

thats the problem

i dont mind making it a hyper offense or balanced team, just need a second opinion

[nocturne dagger]

gren isn’t great in ou, if you want hyper offense you could switch it for h samurrot

[real willow]

honestly I don't really like corviknight

doesn't do its job well

[warm dust]

just wanted a team around gren tbf

i just use it as a late sweeper

[real willow]

also

ideally this channel is used for full teams

i.e teams that already have 6 mons

[nocturne dagger]

idk i like it as a slow pivot

[nocturne dagger]

it’s much better in uu if you want that

[real willow]

you could do better with slow pivots

like

[warm dust]

https://pokepast.es/db6d276d21bf7af9

[real willow]

glowking

[warm dust]

this was the original team

[real willow]

could go spdef garg + physdef tusk > lando + corv

and then your last becomes a fairy resist

although then you become a lot weaker to ground

hmm

[warm dust]

i alrdy have problems with clodsire

[nocturne dagger]

thats cuz you have 3 special attackers lol

[warm dust]

i dont mind garg but i need a defoger ig

[nocturne dagger]

tusk can spin

[warm dust]

aight ill take both opinions and swap things around thanks

if i run spd garg, should i still run body press then?

or do i need iron defense or something

[nocturne dagger]

if you want body press you basically need iron defense

[restive swift]

Tried to create a hazard stack team but I am open to suggestions on how to improve it: https://pokepast.es/5e9b941b1f937334

[real willow]

wait your speed control options are also kinda murky

[restive swift]

Really? I thought booster energy valiant,scarf samurott and torn-t was good enough

oh wait sorry were you talking about someone else

[real willow]

yeah sorry

was talking about JK's team

[restive swift]

no problem

[real willow]

team looks fine

could also consider colbur on gholdengo since booster valiant just destroys tbh

or changing tornadus therian to something that better deals with sd valiant

[rose hinge]

https://pokepast.es/4ce71fdd183db83c

CB zamazenta

[astral crane]

I still need a tip for this

[forest magnet]

i gotchu

[astral crane]

I feel like the team still needs a little something

[forest magnet]

yeah

u have 2 spa attackers

but both ghost

what style u tryna go for?

HO?

[astral crane]

Yes

[forest magnet]

al

alr

tusk with booster is a bit weird

go for a bulky tusk

and enough speed to outspeed max speed kingambit

rest is in defence

[astral crane]

Defensive rocks one?

[forest magnet]

yeah

ur team likes hazards

[astral crane]

Alr

[forest magnet]

bc u alr have hamurott and g dengo

[astral crane]

Yes

[forest magnet]

its good for now

so just like test some

dm me if u need improvements

@astral crane

[astral crane]

Alr alr

[forest magnet]

make sure to play patiently

[astral crane]

Yes

I played this style since the start of SV no worries

[forest magnet]

alr alr

[austere field]

https://pokepast.es/9bb75ebb16878ea4

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[austere field]

Advice?

[forest magnet]

mf got tera fire dragapult but no flamethrower

[austere field]

I run tbolt for enamorus

Do you have any suggestions on how to improve the team?

[forest magnet]

sure i gotchu

[austere field]

I’d like to try to keep iron hands but idk if that’s possible

[forest magnet]

swap sub on bax for ice shard

swap tera on corv for water

to many fairy weaks

swap clod for g-king

[austere field]

Vest?

[forest magnet]

no

[austere field]

Oh

What the fuck

I never even say that

[forest magnet]

??

[austere field]

Autocorrect

It wrote pog

[forest magnet]

alr alr

[forest magnet]

i caught u lackin lmao

[austere field]

💀

[forest magnet]

vest is bulky but no momentum

[nocturne dagger]

and ground

[austere field]

What set?

Damn maybe I will swap hands

[forest magnet]

yeah

[forest magnet]

mm

for like hoopa

or moltres

idk

[nocturne dagger]

that’s another fairy weak tho

[austere field]

What set for glowking

[forest magnet]

moltres is pretty good for his team

[forest magnet]

pivot

[austere field]

https://pokepast.es/58a535bbb6451508

[austere field]

@forest magnet this look better?

[forest magnet]

moltres period

max hp and defence

immune to ground and resist fairies

flamebody is always good

[austere field]

Oh the other one

[forest magnet]

lmao yeah

[austere field]

I feel like I don’t have many damage dealers though

[forest magnet]

what style of team u tryna go for

HO?

[austere field]

Bulky offense / balance

[forest magnet]

alr

ummm

lemme think

[austere field]

Idk

Maybe I’d get rid of corv

For like offensive tusk or some shit

[forest magnet]

i think u should go for a volt turn type shit team

like replace bax for somtn

bc u could cripple mons with moltres

and garg

etc..

[austere field]

I have no dark resist

[forest magnet]

yeah

send me the team again

[austere field]

The updated one?

[forest magnet]

yeah

[austere field]

https://pokepast.es/8a8ba1677e76a960

[forest magnet]

try bax for zama

has setup too

[austere field]

which set

[forest magnet]

also pult can hit the ghost 4 u

[forest magnet]

well

do u want a in and out team

or a team that weakens a team then sets up

kuz both look good 4 u r team

[austere field]

Honestly in and out

[forest magnet]

alr

[forest magnet]

cb zama

max max

[austere field]

https://pokepast.es/8a36b5f1163c14cc

How’s this looking

[forest magnet]

more like it

nice nice

[austere field]

Awesome

Any other minor tweaks or nah

[forest magnet]

test a bit then dm me if u need to make small tweaks

[forest magnet]

nah not rlly

[austere field]

Sounds good

[forest magnet]

wait

[austere field]

Thank you so much for your help

Oh

[forest magnet]

tera ghost for shadow ball on dragapult

thats all

[austere field]

Sure

Thank you!

[forest magnet]

gotchu fam

[austere field]

The team is fire

Even moltres puts in work

[forest magnet]

i told u

[hollow ore]

https://pokepast.es/0ad84301315dd34e

is this team viable and whats a good final mon

im thinking dozo or enamourus

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/89fe2d47885ff1ac idk mam I just wanna try out sandy shocks

[austere field]

Probably speed control

[austere field]

Earthquake goes crazy on this team

[sly mauve]

Fair

I'm kinda fucked if washtom dies

[austere field]

Mold breaker haxorus

[sly mauve]

I was just hoping gor shocks rose to ou a while ago

And he did

So I wanna use him

Cuz hes cool

[austere field]

I do like shocks

You just need more ground immunities or resists

[sly mauve]

I could prob just wipe it clean, keel shocks and sneasler, and build off of them

[maiden quest]

https://pokepast.es/8700ac575b8b2ee6

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[maiden quest]

first time playing OU gen 9

this is what I cooked

previously played Gen 7 Ubers

[fickle salmon]

Corv is meh after home

[steep garden]

Not really lol it's about the same

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/07fce619a8865b0e

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[forest magnet]

Status Spread Team

[maiden quest]

what should i use instead, i am using dragonite

are my sets and everything ok

[brave moth]

https://pokepast.es/39c06eb52c372b32 rate and roast

[steep garden]

Well one of the member of your team has built a viability wall from ou for your team and expects you to pay for it 😉

[brave moth]

which one? and the name should be a hint that its not supposed to be viable

[steep garden]

Let's just call him Donald 😂

[brave moth]

gumshoos?

[nocturne dagger]

physical attacking glimmora 🔥

[brave moth]

ik, i wish it had better physical attack

[steep garden]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-thumbs-up-yeah-yes-ok-gif-12822213

[brave moth]

if it had higher attack then corrosion would be good on it

[rose hinge]

https://pokepast.es/b2459e3d67ad1a45

cb zam team

i think i have too many ground types and oddly i keep losing to iron def garg even though ive got zam

[brave moth]

maybe get a mon with a super-effective special attack?

maybe tera blast water on your galar slowking?

[hollow ore]

Why not surf

[brave moth]

i forgot it got that

[gleaming dirge]

need support ideas for gardevoir

[hollow ore]

anyone got the blunder team

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/2070ad894c729e97 ?

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[real willow]

I'd probably go air balloon gholdengo > defensive gholdengo

hatterene is a bit of an odd choice on ho but if you give it eject button and memento/hwish (if it gets it) then it can probably do something

[sly mauve]

alr, I changed Gholdengo and Hatterene, what else?

[real willow]

arcanine also seems like a weird choice

[sly mauve]

why?

[real willow]

I won't lie

I'm not entirely sure why

maybe test your team on ladder and see what you feel you need to change

[sly mauve]

Actually I replaced Arcanine with Iron Moth

Should I replace Hatterene?

[sly mauve]

?

[gleaming dirge]

im thinking of weak policy miraidon

[tired arrow]

uhh miraidon is banned in ou

[forest magnet]

lmaoo

[barren stone]

Can I bump this team

[forest magnet]

bax kills this team

[barren stone]

Scarf Sneasler kills that bax

And so does Tera Steel Hydreigon

And I’m using that most games anyway

[forest magnet]

yeah if your team is so weak to one mon, they opponent can just switch into one thier other mons

[forest magnet]

bax is forcing a tera so thats pretty good

[barren stone]

Not even cuz bax most of the time lol, it’s just a good tera that I’m likely to use anyway

[forest magnet]

alr

https://pokepast.es/17a07c3b89da5e61

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[forest magnet]

lemme see it

[barren stone]

And yea overall the team is a bit more bax weak than I’d like it to be, but idk where to shore that up

[forest magnet]

i gotchu

lemme see

[barren stone]

Then again tho which teams arent weak to bax

[forest magnet]

alot lol

anyways

why u runnin hydregon

fuck i can't speel

lmao

spell

[barren stone]

Pairs good with AV pex, takes advantage of a lot of the shit that pex is weak to and provides a firm breaker for the team

[forest magnet]

alr

[barren stone]

And pex covers most of hydreis weaknesses

Like valiant

And sneasler

Just a really good pairing

[forest magnet]

mm

[forest magnet]

team is also pretty weak to sandy shocks

normally runs tera ice

[barren stone]

Similar solutions to Sandy as to Bax

[forest magnet]

saying that one mon is a check doesn't mean its a check

fuck i can't spell

[barren stone]

Tera Steel Hydrei or Sneasler or Tera Tusk

Not exactly great

[forest magnet]

alr if u don't wanna accept advice

what do u wanna improve?

on ur team

we'll go from there

[barren stone]

I do accept advise Im just telling you how I plan to deal with those things, sorry if it came off the wrong way

How do I improve those matchups

Because I admit they aren’t great

I have ways of dealing with them, but you’ve seen they aren’t consistent or reliable

Idk what to slot to deal with those tho

[forest magnet]

you can play around those matchups

but once a mon of yours goes down, its pretty tough to keep on playing around

eg hyra dies

[barren stone]

Yea

What are good checks to the two of those

They use similar coverage

So something must be shared

[forest magnet]

im thinking of changing ghouldengo or zapdos

[barren stone]

Also Ngl av pex is probably fine against like non specs Sandy idk the calcs on that

[forest magnet]

mm

[barren stone]

Ok nevermind

[forest magnet]

you could change Gholdengo too airballoon set

[barren stone]

After tera it’s fine tho

[forest magnet]

as a better check to bax

bc spending tera isn't good everytime u see a bax

[barren stone]

Fair

Though at the same time it makes it way harder to get mileage out of ghold

For stuff like spinblocking

[forest magnet]

yeah

u should change the moves tbh

lemme get a set

[barren stone]

K

Main job of ghold here is to keep hazards up, spread status, and disable threats

[forest magnet]

Gholdengo @ Air Balloon
Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Make It Rain
• Shadow Ball
• Nasty Plot
• Recover

here

you could swap nasty plot for t wave

it OHKO's bax unenvested (make it rain)

[barren stone]

Yea

[forest magnet]

normal set runs max spa

but hp is good as u said u would like somthing for keeping hazards up

[barren stone]

Yuh

[forest magnet]

so it has more bulk to not get run over.

[barren stone]

That works

[forest magnet]

idk if you would like to run max speed

but it find it better

bc you can check slower threats

[barren stone]

It probably has some important speed benchmark lemme check

[forest magnet]

mm

[barren stone]

Is adamant bax a thing ppl run?

[forest magnet]

sometimes

bc dd

but ur goal with air balloon is to live a hit

[barren stone]

yea

[forest magnet]

then kill with make it rain]

bc no eq

[barren stone]

I was thinking of speed creeping for adamant bax

[forest magnet]

u could run tera dark too

for shadowball resesit

but Gholdengo is built for taking phys hits better.

so i say just keep fighting.

[barren stone]

What phys moves is fighting taking?

[forest magnet]

kingambit

rlly just for that

[barren stone]

ohyeaforgotthatguy

[forest magnet]

bc you wanna have more than one check to gambit

bc ur only really solid check is tusk

bc zapdos is pretty frail

i think it dies to a +2 sucker with fallen 4

standard bulk set

[forest magnet]

lmao

[barren stone]

Yeah and tusk is almost always taking some chip early

Since it wants to rock up asap

[forest magnet]

u go test the team but come back too me if you need anything

[barren stone]

Aight

[forest magnet]

also other than pult u don't gotta spd wall

[forest magnet]

it could get trapped by heatran even.

[barren stone]

Pex?

[forest magnet]

lmao

sorry pex

[barren stone]

AV pex is kinda the starting point of the team

[forest magnet]

mm

i'm not saying change anything

just to be aware of that

[barren stone]

Fair

[forest magnet]

alr hope u do well on ladder

[barren stone]

Also yea gonna speed creep Gholdengo for Jolly Dnite

That’s an important benchmark

[forest magnet]

mm

[barren stone]

Because it checks it the same way it checks bax

[forest magnet]

watch out for fire punch tho

on nite

[barren stone]

True

Idt most run it

But it’s something to consider

Nvm offensive Dd Dnite runs it

Eh zap should be fine for dnite

[forest magnet]

nuh uh

[forest magnet]

yeah

gl to u

do well brother

[barren stone]

thank you

Also first game I ran into both bax and gambit

How fitting

[forest magnet]

told uuu

[forest magnet]

send me a link in dms

i wanna watch

[barren stone]

I’ll send replay

[rain gyro]

@wraith verge

this is the SV OU channel

other is for NatDex OU LMAO

[wraith verge]

https://pokepast.es/e7b5cec5b87cb923 any sugestions for higher ladder?

lol

[rain gyro]

lol

ok i'm not the very best sv ou player but

[forest magnet]

u sniff toes

[wraith verge]

i do

[forest magnet]

interesting

[wraith verge]

do you know a good screen setter though for ou

[rain gyro]

zama, sneasler, valiant are solid

[rain gyro]

dragapult is

generally the most used one

with reflect, light screen, curse, ddarts or wisp

glimmora can be replaced by hamurott, but that's personal preference

[wraith verge]

what about like willo wisp amd hex

fo the pult

[rain gyro]

that's an option too, people just like curse to force switches after screens are set

but reflect ls wisp hex exists as well

[wraith verge]

should o replace dozo with pult

[rain gyro]

volcanion is pretty random here

i feel like replacing volcanion is a better bet

pult already has wisp and volcanion is kinda random in this team

lol

[wraith verge]

i could do taunt or smth on it

[wraith verge]

well volcanion is bulk so it can take stuff like great tusk out

[rain gyro]

Back

[rain gyro]

Your team doesn't seem like it would struggle with great tusk but i see where you're going

[wraith verge]

it ohkos with steam

[rain gyro]

You do lack a special attacker other than volcanion now that i look at it

You can replace dozo with screens pult and then keep volcanion unless we find a better special attacker for screens

@ruby crest can you take over, you're better than me by a lot and i gotta shower too lmfao

[wraith verge]

lol

[rain gyro]

Or @fallow crag Tyson went offline the moment i called them 😭

Lol

[wraith verge]

bro said ima out

[rain gyro]

(I am I'm literally procrastinating rn)

(Phone addiction is fun)

[wraith verge]

fr

[fallow crag]

sorry whats the team?

ah i see

dozo feels completely out of place here

[wraith verge]

this

[fallow crag]

sadly the big fish is really relegated to stall teams

[wraith verge]

any suggestions instead

[fallow crag]

if you are looking for a water type, sub walking wake is a good set

i think the set is sub agility pulse steam

[wraith verge]

okay anything else i should replace or change

[fallow crag]

tera ghost on sneasler

you cna have more bulk on it too

just have enough speed to outpace speed boosted moon

when you are at +2

[wraith verge]

what should i do for bulk

on the snealer

[fallow crag]

or more hold on

EVs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spe

should be fine

this outruns adamant floatzel in rain

i think sub on volc is a possibility, but wisp aint bad for gambit

ice punch is a very odd choice on valiant, you'd probably get more mileage out of encore or spirit break or even shadow sneak

make glimmora tera ghost

though you never tera it anyways

there's also a case to be made for toxic > ep and corrosion

but thats up to you whether you wanna run that

[wraith verge]

i dotn have glimmora i switched it

i have pult

for screens

[fallow crag]

ah that is also fine then

i'd run wisp pult screens then

wisp / curse / light screen / reflect

if that is the case

[wraith verge]

what if i get taunt

[fallow crag]

you may want a samurott-h instead of wake

sash torrent is pretty nice

i'd also slap on tera ghost on sneasler

cause shadow claw doesnt kill pult without it

[wraith verge]

https://pokepast.es/066c5b6612cbbda2

theres what ive done so far from your suggetstions

[fallow crag]

yeh i think samurott > wake is actually the play

[wraith verge]

ok

Samurott-Hisui @ Focus Sash
Ability: Sharpness
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Ghost
Jolly Nature

• Ceaseless Edge
• Razor Shell
• Knock Off
• Aqua Jet

this sammort right? but with torrent

[fallow crag]

Samurott-Hisui @ Focus Sash
Ability: Torrent
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature

• Ceaseless Edge
• Surf
• Taunt
• Aqua Jet / Knock Off

is what i prefer

last move up to you

[wraith verge]

why surf

[fallow crag]

it does more damage to great tusk

actually it can outright OHKO it

4 SpA Torrent Samurott-Hisui Surf vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Great Tusk: 480-566 (110.5 - 130.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[wraith verge]

hmm i guess i didnt think of that

[fallow crag]

compare that to

252 Atk Torrent Samurott-Hisui Razor Shell vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Great Tusk: 192-228 (44.2 - 52.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

and you start to see why it is nice

[wraith verge]

yes

any thing else i might wanna change?

[fallow crag]

it also kinda smacks iron valiant which is funny

4 SpA Torrent Samurott-Hisui Surf vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Iron Valiant: 219-258 (75.7 - 89.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Torrent Samurott-Hisui Razor Shell vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Valiant: 177-208 (61.2 - 71.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[fallow crag]

nothing at first glance, volc HO is cool might try it later

[wraith verge]

yeah i might do sub bc all my most of the moves burn

[fallow crag]

yeh i think sub is probably like

objectively better

[wraith verge]

probably

[fallow crag]

but you can never be too safe against gambit

[wraith verge]

true

steam does 56.5 - 66.7% to a bluky one after it teras

[worn ice]

is this a good OU team?

[wraith verge]

in my opinion slither isnt too good

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/059cdd896024823c good OU team?

[forest magnet]

no

[forest magnet]

i hate basil

https://tenor.com/view/basil-basil-omori-pesto-omori-gif-26127035

[sly mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/omori-basil-afraid-scared-gif-24305056

[worn ice]

thats good

[sly mauve]

really?

[rain gyro]

yeah this is solid enough

[fringe patrol]

https://pokepast.es/c720df9cfc24fef0 can i have some thoughts on my def rain team

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[forest magnet]

why are you running heat wave on a rain team

[fringe patrol]

Lack of another option

Also steel types

[forest magnet]

in rain

[fringe patrol]

What would you suggest then

[forest magnet]

lemme pull up showdown

[forest magnet]

roost

[fringe patrol]

Specs-

[forest magnet]

you said it was a defensive rain team

[forest magnet]

i'm changing the set if u don't mind

[fringe patrol]

Okay

[forest magnet]

i'll send u a revised version of the team

[fringe patrol]

kk

[forest magnet]

https://pokepast.es/681183980f6deab2

here ya go

@fringe patrol

[fringe patrol]

i will say i run psych fangs not really for dmg or coverage just because screens are annoying when your playing slow

also pellipur just gets murdered instanly 99% of the time

i do think the zapdos is way better for the route im trying to use

thank

[fiery sapphire]

https://pokepast.es/5b0bbfad4a050011 taking a break from bss and going back to ou, how is this

[worn ice]

based

[worn ice]

its good

[forest magnet]

watch out for baxcallbur

only thing that can take a few hits is azu

[fiery sapphire]

It can take a play rough?

[fringe patrol]

Thank you

[worn ice]

ur welcome

hows this team?

Iron Valiant @ Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature

• Brick Break
• Aura Sphere
• Destiny Bond
• Fire Punch

Slither Wing @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Bug
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• First Impression
• Body Press
• Acrobatics
• Body Slam

Gholdengo @ Life Orb
Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Make It Rain
• Power Gem
• Psyshock
• Dazzling Gleam

Zapdos
Ability: Static
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature

• Discharge
• Ancient Power
• Brave Bird
• Detect

Rotom-Wash @ Flame Orb
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature

• Discharge
• Hydro Pump
• Shadow Ball
• Facade

Baxcalibur @ Focus Sash
Ability: Thermal Exchange
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature

• Aqua Tail
• Avalanche
• Blizzard
• Glaive Rush

[fringe patrol]

dying, also use pokepaste please

[brave moth]

seriously

[fringe patrol]

?

[brave moth]

the pokepaste thing

[fringe patrol]

your supposed to

[brave moth]

yeah

[fringe patrol]

are you upset at me or-

[brave moth]

no, i was agreeing with u

[worn ice]

I didnt know how to do it so I just did that

[steep garden]

https://pokepast.es/cb4b50ab219a6667 thoughts on a bulky offensive BP zamazenta team? Need to make it on switch so polishing it off before making it is super super helpful

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[velvet path]

https://pokepast.es/4ff764471a70148c

[delicate warren]

https://pokepast.es/0545517aa233c6d3

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[delicate warren]

a team i made that's gotten me to 1600s

[fallow crag]

i imagine you get a lot of wins off some of the surprise factor here

[delicate warren]

surprise factor in what sense? the special bulk of hoopa?

or the scared sneasler taking on fairy types and fairy bax?

scarfed*

[fallow crag]

scarf sneasler, offensive zap, invested tusk, band hoopa in general

just stuff you dont typically see

you do get 6-0ed by any balance team with enamorus on it

[delicate warren]

right yeah, i did kind of make it with the intention of being an anti-meta team, so to speak

[delicate warren]

enamorus cooks me if i dont play properly

[fallow crag]

nah dude it just cooks you

[delicate warren]

really? ive found sneasler can deal with it, but only barely

but, that's neither here nor there

[fallow crag]

you have to sack to it

and if opp has enam + something to switch into sneasler

its gg

[delicate warren]

yeah most definitely

what would you suggest?

[fallow crag]

honestly i just dont see much of a direction for the team

its definitely very offensively leaning

but hatt feels a bit thrown on there

perhaps ebutton hat would be better here to retain momentum

AV hoopa > band is probably also a good call

[delicate warren]

av hoopa over band?

[fallow crag]

yeh it capitalizes more on its bulk

and its excellent coverage

and i think wake is definitely suboptimal here but i do see the need for the water resistance

might genuinely be easier with boots hex pult

since the team is not short on breakers

i'd also heavily suggest heat wave > tbolt on zap

tho it is not a requirement in the current meta

[delicate warren]

hm. i think i'll try av hoopa with tera dark, i've been locked into so many guessing games that could've been avoided had i just been able to click another move

drain punch on kingambit, for example

wake could be alot better tbh. it's speed is middling, and its not exactly providing anything that doesn't exist in a better form already, i kind of just liked the water type against glimmora, but it's not too common anymore

what do you think of slowking galar over hatterene and sneasler?

[fallow crag]

if you want to have a more balance oriented team thats probably a good idea

[delicate warren]

i think balance is more in my playstyle. but do you know any mons that can fill a similar role to fast physical mon like sneasler?

cinderace was on my mind, but it doesn't do too well against tera fairy bax

which annihilates me

or would having both sneas and slowking be fine?

[unreal plaza]

https://pokepast.es/7a5d7aae18e03999

I made a bo team, but I feel like I can never switch into H!Samurott, any advice

[steep garden]

Sorry just quickly bumping

[naive stirrup]

https://pokepast.es/6432d23b1acf82fa need help, HO team
RM is for late game sweeping, or maybe early game wallbreaking too. But may change jaw lock, idk. Glimmora and landorus is the suicide lead, maybe more on Glimmora on Sucide leading. Heatran for fairies, Enamorus for alternative sweeper too. Gholdengo, idk why I put that there, but it has a good synergy with heatran though.

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[fervent bluff]

I'd swap jaw lock for crunch, jaw lock traps both the target and the user so it can lead to some really unfortunate positions.

[forest magnet]

no hazard controll and watch out for sweeps

[fiery sapphire]

If you want balance I could help with that

[delicate warren]

yessir, let me message you when im off

[fiery sapphire]

Hmmm is banded azu better for this team or belly drum azu https://pokepast.es/cd61cd3839927a22

[forest magnet]

banded bc u alr have moon

[fiery sapphire]

Also im probably going to make tusk defensive bulk up

Cuz heat is already a stealth rocker

[forest magnet]

i say swap stealth rock on tusk for ice spinner

[fiery sapphire]

Do you think I should change anything else?

[forest magnet]

umm

all ur defensive mons are weak to ice

and heat resists it