[DO NOT USE][ARCHIVED] SV OU Rates

[surreal bloom]

actually that might be worse vs dnite

tera fairy volc!

[odd depot]

No it isn't

It can take at leat 1 hit from dnite unboosted

[ruby crest]

what are you trying to focus around in this team?

[odd depot]

To note I do lose utility from tusk removing rapid spin.

And torcoal isn't exactly the best spinner in the world

But it's the price to pay

[ruby crest]

fwiw you dont miss out on a lot

if anything a lot of suns only have torkoal as their hazard control

[fiery sapphire]

The defensive core of ting lu and toxapex it seems like itd be really solid

Meow and iron val are good for our offense but idk about skeledirge

[silk hamlet]

https://pokepast.es/6bb8f528393c455e @ruby crest

[ruby crest]

this team is slow af

[silk hamlet]

I guess

[ruby crest]

also idk what iron hands is good here for like why use that over banded valiant,

uhh tho i would replace amoo here something with speed ideally

[silk hamlet]

Im willing to change it

I kinda need amoong otherwise meows just clicks

[ruby crest]

dirge moment

[silk hamlet]

Dirge when it gets knock offed!

[ruby crest]

i would do cind > hands, eject/ covert amoong, and tusk > dirge

[proven hare]

Trying to fit hands in singles is like trying to fit Valiant in doubles

[fiery sapphire]

https://pokepast.es/82b0d10ed6ed81ab i was building around the tanky duo of toxapex and ting lu. Felt like itd be decent on balance.

[versed gazelle]

Iron Valiant seems too commital with booster energy to be on balance

Booster Energy lends itself better to hyper offense

[fiery sapphire]

Its a decent cleaner and set up that combos well with meow

I could replace it with another set up sweeper but who would i replace it with?

[versed gazelle]

I'd honestly just throw life orb or specs on it

Scarf for revenge kills could be interesting but balance doesn't need revenge as badly

[ruby crest]

Spikes ting lu, Bu taunt corv, np hydra > iron Val, rock, great tusk > meow, and cinderace > dirge

[fiery sapphire]

Why hydreigon over something like dnite or garchomp?

[ruby crest]

Powerful breaker and likes spikes plus av Toxapex to wear down stuff with acid spray

[fiery sapphire]

And why tusk over meow? More hazards to stack with hydra

[ruby crest]

That and also your answer to Kingambit was non existent as well as wanting a much consistent hazard control

[fiery sapphire]

It just loses to bulk tusk

Nothing on the team wants to really face it

Also bulk up, taunt, brave bird, body press so no roost or u turn

[ruby crest]

It’s bulk up taunt bb roost

[proven hare]

Corv without Roost is like Volcarona without Quiver Dance

[solid quiver]

https://pokepast.es/8a1d6b68117cfb58. Gen 9 OU, got to 1900s, wondering if spedef rotom over dondozo would be better? Or really, just looking for any advice in general, thanks.

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[solid quiver]

Would spikes over rocks on chomp also work?

Or yawn over cm on sylveon?

[versed gazelle]

https://pokepast.es/cc43c952bb5e509a

Literally just made this team. I haven't even used it yet. I wanted to make a balance team with Volcarona and Ting Lu. The rest are interchangeable.

[proven hare]

https://pokepast.es/fc9f6b69b1b098ad

[solid quiver]

Tusk over treads ngl

U could also replace scarf Walking Wakewith dragon dance bax, and make dragapult specs

[versed gazelle]

Defensive Rotom Wash feels a little out of place. Maybe a balanced pivot wash more focused on spamming out Volt Switches

[versed gazelle]

True true

[proven hare]

wdym

Rotom-W has been defensive

since it was released

[solid quiver]

I don't think so imo, rotom + tusk is a nice core

[versed gazelle]

Yeah but like having a random status tank feels out of place on hyper offense

[proven hare]

It's not HO

It's VoltTurn

BO

[solid quiver]

It's not HO

It's got defensive backbone

Rotom + tusk is a great balance core imo

I would prob make either valiant Booster and CM or bax ddance

[ruby crest]

This looks fine tho speed creep for iron Val with tusk after a Spin and lefties > lum on gambit

[solid quiver]

https://pokepast.es/8a1d6b68117cfb58. Gen 9 OU, got to 1900s, wondering if spedef rotom over dondozo would be better? Or really, just looking for any advice in general, thanks.

[proven hare]

Thanks. I was also thinking of leaving out Rocks on Tusk (Court Change can be used to get hazards on opponent's side) and going BU for Dragonite and Bax

Is that fine

[ruby crest]

Na you want rocks never rely on cinderace for getting hazards tbh especially for games where you want to gets rocks up but have no way to get them up immediately

[ruby crest]

Go Bulky wisp volc, taunt > whirlwind, offensive tusk > treads, hex pult > cb, spdef fairy washer > wake, and red card amoong > Breeloom

[frigid rose]

https://pokepast.es/3a3118ab869b2692

Would love some fixing, team really weak to ting lu/ hazard stack

also can’t take on tera flying gholdengo

[ruby crest]

Go rocks tusk, sub hex pult, standard pex with shuca berry, spikes ting lu with rest, cinderace > ghodlengo, and bu taunt corv > defog

[thin gorge]

https://pokepast.es/f7bb95eaf6259746 can someone improve my team??

[proven hare]

https://pokepast.es/3e787adb5be9044e

[solid quiver]

You prob want hat over blissey for better anti hazards for bax

Prob also spedef rotom over scarf, u don't really need scarf here imo

Actually av pex could work better

[proven hare]

@fallow crag

[ruby crest]

Spdef fairy wash > scarf, physdef tusk > treads, red card > Rocky helm and sludge bomb > clear smog on amoong, cb bax > dd, and gambit > blissey

[ruby crest]

@thin gorge ^

[ruby crest]

As much as I don’t like specs dengo this is cool, use tusk to speed creep iron Val and tera fire gambit here tbh

[proven hare]

Yeah man

I always use Max PDef Tusk by default

Since I take it from Analysis

Also, yeah Volc MU is whatever

So Tera Fire Gambit is cool

[proven hare]

My idea was Hazards + Specs Dengo (which keeps Hazards up) is near impossible to wall

Also idk if I need 3 knock off users

Maybe Valiant could do with another move

[thin gorge]

kk ty

[ruby crest]

Was going to say you can do tbolt or destiny bond

[ruby crest]

I honestly don’t like specs dengo just cause I would use anything else over it tbh but alas

[thin gorge]

https://pokepast.es/5e75205bd0847745 does this look good or any more edits??

[ruby crest]

Adamant > jolly on baxc, tera water on tusk and go enough speed on tusk to speed creep scarf dengo after a spin, tera fire lefties on gambit also if you feel you want to deal more damage with pult you can do modest

[thin gorge]

can you give me the exact tusk set?

[ruby crest]

40 speed evs take the evs from defense

[solid quiver]

https://pokepast.es/8a1d6b68117cfb58. Gen 9 OU, got to 1900s, wondering if spedef rotom over dondozo would be better? Or really, just looking for any advice in general, thanks.

[thin gorge]

kk done https://pokepast.es/6f9f360d41feff2e

[ruby crest]

Change Kingambit set it’s standard sd ev

[ruby crest]

Woops wrong person but yeah also the 4 ev in spdef just put it into defense

Tera water > steel on tusk

[thin gorge]

for gambit?

[ruby crest]

Everything else is fine

[ruby crest]

Yeah

[thin gorge]

wait it is in def rn

[ruby crest]

Yeah but there’s a random 4 in spdef unless you already fixed it

[thin gorge]

Kingambit @ Leftovers
Ability: Supreme Overlord
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Sucker Punch
• Kowtow Cleave
• Swords Dance
• Iron Head

i think i did

cause this is what i have

[ruby crest]

I’m referring to tusk but change the evs on gambit to the standard sd one

112 hp / max atk / 144 spe

[thin gorge]

ohhhh mb

done

tysm for the help

[ruby crest]

No problemo

[ruby crest]

It depends tbh are you trying to go for balance or bo

[glass burrow]

https://pokepast.es/5baaaecd5028204f

val moth core

[ruby crest]

Go speed booster iron moth, cm ghost iron Val, loaded dice > never melt ice, eject pack rocks great tusk, lead meow > hatt, and go max max on gambit with tera dark and iron head > tera blast

[solid quiver]

Balance for the most part

Chomp and Banded Meow are offensive pressure, with the other 4 mons being the defensive core

Could hdb meow work better?

[ruby crest]

Honestly if the team has been doing good don’t see how to improve it unless you are struggling with something specifically

[solid quiver]

It's been good but gholdengo can be problematic lol

[ruby crest]

Hmm well yeah your ghost resist”is meow

[solid quiver]

Ik 😭 spedef dondozo really my only option

Could av pex work in its place?

[ruby crest]

hmm i think what we cna do is scream tail > sylv, bu taunt corv > defog, cb baxc > dengo, scarf meow > cb, and physdef tusk with enough speed to outspeed scarf dengo after a spin can work

[solid quiver]

Why the bax?

[ruby crest]

immediate braker

[solid quiver]

And ik scream tail is good but I really wanted to build around cm sylv

[solid quiver]

Fair

[ruby crest]

i would say you would benefit from scream tail here a lot more but if you say so

[solid quiver]

How so?

Also why scarf meow over band?

I don't think much of the things it outspeeds with scarf are too threatening to the team(imo at least)

[ruby crest]

your able to secure wish passes much effectively due to its speed which can be beneficial for those moments you want a wish and pass it to someone else immediately

[solid quiver]

Ah that's fair yeah

[ruby crest]

scarf meow is just obligatory speed control as well as a way to revenge dengo

you can also use trick and cripple mons that can be annoying

[solid quiver]

Don't I need near max speed to speed creep scarf dengo

[ruby crest]

you need 40 speed

cause its after a rapid spin boost

[solid quiver]

That's only 330 after a spin

[ruby crest]

i got my speed tiers messed up woops its at +2 you outspeed actually go 56 this makes you faster then chomp at +1 and at +2 you get the jump to be faster then scarf rotom-w and glimmora

[solid quiver]

ahh alr alr ty

[ruby crest]

Np

[small onyx]

Bro spdef Sylveon is genius

[glass burrow]

Nice

[stone dagger]

https://pokepast.es/cbcb1592b53e49a4 been winning a lotta games but im also rly low elo rn

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[ruby crest]

so typh isnt really good here unless you use it in sun which even then its a bit niche there you can do speed boosted iron moth > typh, air ballon np gholdengo, rocks eject pack great tusk, and bd encore azu > rotom-w

[stone dagger]

https://pokepast.es/6874a3042ca4de72 like this?

[ruby crest]

knock > speed, on tusk, encore > liquid on azu, tera steel on dengo and just go max spa and max speed everything else looks fine

[stone dagger]

what ab hazard removal

[ruby crest]

You got hazard control with tusk

[stone dagger]

doesnt knock>speed mean knock over spin?

[tidal trout]

https://pokepast.es/00663e5751ff7da1 gen 9 OU singles team, was looking for ways to improve team balance

[ruby crest]

Oh woops I meant knock > cc

[west harbor]

espathra is banned from ou, and heal bell isn’t in the game in gen 9. maushold/quaqaval aren’t really viable at all in ou especially with those sets. id recommend you try out a sample team to get a feel of the meta then try to build a new team based off your experiences playing

[hoary raven]

if you want to use blissey you oughtta use naturalcure (best ability on 99% of blissies)

[rotund tinsel]

https://pokepast.es/81c8b20978b293b8

for Nat Dex OU

[ruby crest]

There’s a nat dex thread

[rotund tinsel]

mb

[ruby crest]

It’s all good

[tidal trout]

oh, ok. i built that team a while ago towards the beginning of gen 9 ou, and i didn't edit it until now.

[west harbor]

just make sure to test your teams first before asking for feedback on them

[rugged spire]

https://pokepast.es/3b47c9a0c51b2582 hi im new in comp and I made this team can I get some suggestions?

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[ruby crest]

This team just has a random mons tbh Torkoal and typh is usually on sun,despite typh is being very fringe in viability while gyarados is just random, I would recommend use sample teams first to familiarize yourself with the metagame and then attempt in building a new team

[rugged spire]

so what can i do?

[ruby crest]

Like I said stick with sample teams in the meant time and familiarize yourself with the ou metagame, these teams are good for players to learn especially if they are new to comp, once you feel familiar with the metagame then you can try building

[rugged spire]

and how do I build a team?

[rugged spire]

How can I build a team if I want to use an specific pokemon?

[ruby crest]

You need to understand the metagame, see if the Pokémon is even viable in a tier, and work your way around the Mon what pairs well with it what you want to do with the Mon and team archetype you are hitting for, fwiw I would redirect to #comp-general since this channel is to rate teams and can get more in depth hoe to team build in comp gen

[rugged spire]

ok ty

[solid quiver]

https://pokepast.es/a73e7b5d62e8c921. Gen 9 OU, Specs iron jug and spikes stack, any way to improve?

Bax and d dance dragonite are problems for the team

[fiery sapphire]

What does iron jug do here that hydreigon cant

[solid quiver]

Specs hydreigon ain't spamming Draco meteor like jug can spam hurricane, even with 70% accuracy. Also, iron jug is faster, letting is spam dark pulses better than hydreigon. But it's really mostly hurricane, since not much can safely switch in

Like off the top of my head only spedef corv and spedef garg reliably switch in

Anyways though any way I can make the team better? I'd rather keep specs iron jugulis, anything else is fair game

[fiery sapphire]

Hurricane is not a very good trade, you have a worse typing and less bulk, not only that but sub plot hydreigon doubles as a breaker and set up mon.

[solid quiver]

Plot hydreigon doesn't have the immediate power

[fiery sapphire]

It does

Draco hurts either way

Also jug flying type makes it weak to rocks

[solid quiver]

I'm not arguing jug is better than hydreigon, but I feel that jug is a better specs user

[fiery sapphire]

Even then specs dreigon is generally stronger for 4 point of speed. Both moms lose to almost the same things their weaknesses dont change much just swap a weakness to dragon, bug, and fairy to a weakness to rock wnd electric. Which isnt good when stealth rock is so relevant. Not only that but with spikes and stealth rock, sub plot hydreigon breaks just fine thanks to the chip.

You dont have to change it I just think dreigon would be better here.

[solid quiver]

Yeah I can understand that, but idk I feel that jugulis js pretty underrated atm. Specs hurricane has very little switchins atm, that's really the biggest reason i like it

Other than jug, any other advice?

[ruby crest]

You can do Bu taunt corv > dnite just to vastly improve your baxc and dnite mu, as well as having something to prevent taunts, knock > bpress on tusk? and then scarf iron val > dengo you hit much more relevant speed tiers like +2 ada baxc and dnite being able to pressure them and can still cripple stuff with trick

[solid quiver]

Can't dengo work better on spikes stack?

But the convi I agree with, should i go spedef on it?

[solid quiver]

What do I miss out on without dragonite? Curious on that

[ruby crest]

Not much

Pex + tusk + pex cover everything dnite wouldve

[ruby crest]

Dengo is slightly slower and a lot of teams can still function with a proper hazard stack without dengo sm

Also tera fairy on pex

With corv make sure you go enough speed for gambit

[solid quiver]

I usually go enough to speed creep gambits trying to speed creep corvi

Should I go more than max speed gambit?

[ruby crest]

Just enough for those that speed creep corv

Also also IF you feel ghost become annoying despite two “ghost resist” and an av pex I would suggest ting-lu > meow still maintains a spiker tho a much more bulkier way to deal with ghost

[solid quiver]

Nah I've never felt ghosts are that problematic

Should I go body press or brave bird

[ruby crest]

Bb

Tera types you can mess around with a lot of stuff tho I enjoy fire just cause you can play against volc

Oh one last acid spray > ice beam on av pex

[solid quiver]

Yeah I love tera fire on corv

[solid quiver]

Why? Ice beam threatens pult

And hydreigon

https://pokepast.es/de132343cf8b4a51

This good?

[ruby crest]

I would say mess with it at first just cause the spdef drop can come in handy for Val and jugulis to break something or force it out as you can catch soemthing else on the switch

[solid quiver]

Ahhh that's fair

[ruby crest]

Make sure corv is faster then 144 gambit, knock > bpress on tusk, also I would do focus blast > shadow ball on iron Val tera fairy, repeating tera types is fine, and if you feel you aren’t clicking t bolt as much you can try destiny bond

[solid quiver]

Why focus blast?

For garg?

[ruby crest]

Yeah and other relevant mons that you would want to hit with fighting stab

[solid quiver]

https://pokepast.es/9fbea948c9dba0a4

This better?

[ruby crest]

Yeah this looks solid

[solid quiver]

Alr ty, appreciate it

[glossy shore]

hey guys can you give me critique on my team it is https://pokepast.es/1782405c1a63df7a
the team it is based on is https://pokepast.es/f75fbb4ae3e80885

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[dry edge]

Hey. This channel is for SV OU rates. Try the VGC channel instead

[glossy shore]

Can you link it?

[versed gazelle]

https://pokepast.es/42da70a2315b4f51

Been shredding low ladder with this little gimmick team but feel like it could be better. The concept of the team is Body Press Iron Treads as a sweeper and Pincurchin has to be there. It would also take a lot of convincing to make me take off Cyclizar because he has proved to be incredibly useful

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[tired badge]

https://pokepast.es/a94a1e4b8f0a1a91

[ruby crest]

Are you going for ho or bo?

[tired badge]

prob bo

actually

nah

ho

[ruby crest]

Okie go eject pack rocks tusk, cm ghost iron Val > specs, Kingambit > cinderace, and dd loaded baxc > pult, also air ballon on Dengo

[tardy viper]

can y'all rate my team?

https://pokepast.es/c0ac9495ffad39e2

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[tardy viper]

Pls help

[ruby crest]

Go sub hex pult, specs hzoro, sd gambit, spdef fairy twave rotom-w > garg, and physdef tusk > ace

[tardy viper]

i don't understad

I'm stupido

[tardy viper]

you want me to replace my team?

[tardy viper]

can you build an entire team like that for me

[ruby crest]

It’s not replacing a team it’s just changing sets around for a majority and then replacing two other for ones that make sense

[tardy viper]

can you make the team for me

[onyx hinge]

Opinion? I need a last mon any suggestions?

Forgot to put terra normal for dragonite

[tardy viper]

get rid of leafeon

[tardy viper]

can you be more specific because substitute+Hex on dragapult doesn't really help me that much

you want me to make it a special attacker?

[ruby crest]

Mixed attacker movesets is usual to sub hex darts wisp

[tardy viper]

ah that makes more sense

item?

[tardy viper]

Life orb?

and what about EV spread? should I max anything or waht

[onyx hinge]

For?

[tardy viper]

its trash + I'm busy rn

[onyx hinge]

I see

[tardy viper]

You gotta be more specific 😭

[onyx hinge]

Would liliagaint be better?

[ruby crest]

Lefties

[tardy viper]

spread?

[ruby crest]

Hold up

[tardy viper]

cursed body or infiltrator

[ruby crest]

Infil always

EVs: 112 HP / 76 Atk / 200 SpA / 120 Spe

Hp allows you to take a plume from Torkoal with a sub, attk ohko roaring moon, and speed makes u faster then none + speed nature pults, spa is a dump

Hasty nature btw and tera fairy

[tardy viper]

Ok thank you for being specific

this is very helpful

ok now for Go sub hex pult, specs hzoro, sd gambit, spdef fairy twave rotom-w > garg, and physdef tusk > ace

can you give me the set you had in mind for great tusk

[ruby crest]

Physically defensive great tusk

[tardy viper]

moves?

[tardy viper]

and waht else

HP or attack

[ruby crest]

Just use the standard spread and moveset in smogon analysis

[tardy viper]

Ok

what about that rotom wash

twave tera fairy

spdef

[ruby crest]

Max hp max special defense standard moveset it would run

[tardy viper]

ok

[tardy viper]

Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Hydro Pump
• Volt Switch
• Thunder Wave
• Protect
  ?

[onyx hinge]

This better?

[ruby crest]

Ye

[tardy viper]

what is lilligant for

Ok

[onyx hinge]

Sunny day stuff

I just don’t know who else to use

[tardy viper]

find something in OU, you already have a grass type

lilligant is PU bro

[ruby crest]

What tier is this for exactly considering chi yu and palafin are banned from ou

[west harbor]

what tier are you trying to build in bc chi-yu is banned in ou

[tardy viper]

https://pokepast.es/63671a875dca66fa

ok this is the new squad

LMK any changes I need to make, big or small

what tera should I make kingambit

[fiery sapphire]

I made this https://pokepast.es/09efadf45f9703b3 gholdengo may mot be necessary.

Banded Roaring moon is our offensive counter to sun walking wake

Maybe booster energy might be better

Tusk is our spinner though i might use rocks and then put spikes on tinglu instead of just both on ting lu

[tardy viper]

interesting set

[elfin sedge]

I made this and it's not as good as my original team. How do I improve this without cutting h-zoro (h-zoro is the reason I am playing the tier) https://pokepast.es/24132f67f1f2e6f3

pretend foul play is grass knot I was trying something and it never came up

[solid sinew]

I'd make moth booster energy, tusk offensive and change item on gambit to lefties

[solid sinew]

Also definitely make Pult Tera Ghost with Tera Blast

[elfin sedge]

phantom force won me one (1) kingambit shuffle so I think it's actually the best move ever put into a pokemon game

[primal gyro]

https://pokepast.es/c3c376c1ecac5245

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[fiery sapphire]

How is this team?

[ruby crest]

Go offensive eject pack rocks tusk, dgleam > flash cannon on moth with booster energy, bd encore azu > av, tera fire gambit, and np hzoro, lastly a lead meow > pult

[ruby crest]

Imma be real 3 mons here are just random or just straight up fringe niche namely the Lokix, espeon, and typh with plenty of changes to the team won’t be anywhere near the original to the point I would just say rework the team tbh

[ruby crest]

Honestly you want rocks great tusk here tbh, cinderace > dirge, and would actually go dd taunt moon here, specs Val > dengo

[opaque hamlet]

https://pokepast.es/75a178f53edde017

Here is my modified bulky offense team for Gen 9 OU

Any suggestions are welcome

[ruby crest]

Go tera fairy on rotom-wash and you also really want tect all the times tho I would go twave here, since you still want iron Val for speed control I would go scarf tbh cause trick would be helpful against fatter teams, normally when you go low kick on gambit you drop ihead tho here you want ihead and kowtow, lefties on tusk and tera water and you want speed investment to creep non boosted iron Vals, wisp > ep on dirge, a bit optional but if you want more damage you can go ada on baxc also also if you feel volc and sun is still annoying you can go tera fire on gambit

Alternatively as well you can do sub dirge for garg, while if tspikes are annoying iron moth is not a bad switch tho doing that you def gotta go tera fire on gambit but yeah solid stuff @opaque hamlet

Ironically doing the iron moth path you can do sub hex pult > iron Val

[opaque hamlet]

Thank you mate

I will implement your changes accordingly

I dropped Wisp because WRotom can do it

And Earth Power will be helpful against steels

Although two wisps isn't bad

My Valiant is a setup sweeper for late game

Should I go scarf instead?

[ruby crest]

Being able to slow down goobers like pult, Val, baxc, volc is the thing twave helps with that cause even then if you are running dirge with ep it’s primarily for garb and tera fire gambit

[ruby crest]

It functions the same thing tho has nice added utility like knock and trick especially cause you already got gambit as well

[opaque hamlet]

Oh okay

This makes sense

I was really confused on Valiant's role

Now, I'll be changing EP on Dirge with Wisp and T-wave on WRotom and it's Tera

Changed!

Will do other changes as well going on

But why Tera Fairy on WRotom?

[ruby crest]

It’s good to catch off things like wakes and dragapult draco or Baxcalibur glaive rush so you can twave them while also being a solid defensive option also good against tusk since your immune to ground and only have to watch out for fighting stab which fairy resist

[opaque hamlet]

I didn't think of that, thank you

Should I just go Tera Fairy for Valiant?

I'm thinking of Tera Poison

[ruby crest]

Tera fairy is fine

[opaque hamlet]

For absorbing TSpikes

Oh, alright then

What should be my Kingambit set?

I kept Low Kick solely for opposing Kingambit

Iron Head, Kowtow, Swords Dance and Low Kick?

My initial team didn't have Valiant, instead had Volc which filled the same role (Lategame setup sweeper) but I failed miserably using it. So I shifted for Valiant because to counter Bax as my whole team was weak to DD Bax.

[ruby crest]

Usually moves are sd sucker kowtow ihead/ low kick tho here you want I head and kowtow

[opaque hamlet]

Gotcha

So should I remove Sucker Punch for Low Kick?

Should I remove Low Kick itself?

(As I already have Valiant and Dirge)

(And Great Tusk too)

[ruby crest]

The first 3 moves are honestly standard here you can go ihead not much benefits tbh with opposing gambits removed

[opaque hamlet]

I see, will swap Low Kick for Kowtow

Thank you once again

Sorry if I disturbed you

[ruby crest]

It’s all good happy to help

[primal gyro]

Alr, thank you

[rose hinge]

https://pokepast.es/6897924d4598ba00

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[elfin sedge]

I was super questioning these changes but this shit goes real hard, I’m still kinda iffy on plot for zoro but I am loving this

[ruby crest]

Air balloon gholdengo > Breeloom, tera ghost shadow ball > elec on iron Val, steal rock eject back on great tusk, bulky 2 attack volc > iron moth, and tera ghost on meow

[rose hinge]

eject tusk?

what is that for

and without breloom how do i kill bozo and garg and sutff for moon

[ruby crest]

Those two are already getting constantly pressure with the mons in this team if you are so desperately concerned you can go taunt > tbolt on iron Val, and eject pack on tusk is to give some pivoting ability after lowering its stats from cc

[rose hinge]

wait what does bozo get pressured by

[ruby crest]

Everyone in the team

It doesn’t want to get knocked by either tusk or meow, or take a load from strong spa moves from iron Val and dengo

[rose hinge]

sorry what do i replace for rocks on tusk then

[ruby crest]

Headlong rush

[tidal trout]

https://pokepast.es/e97f7b90f0fc978c i recently made this doubles team, and i wanted to get some feedback on it

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[ruby crest]

This thread is for singles ou not doubles

[tidal trout]

oh

is there a doubles thread

[ruby crest]

There is

It’s the one just below the ou one

[tidal trout]

found it

[ivory basin]

https://pokepast.es/1d8031d5c5e40c9e

is it good?

[solid sinew]

Looks pretty decent, I'd run lefties on Phys Def Tusk and EQ or Headlong over CC

[ivory basin]

ok thx

[solid sinew]

Also I'd make Hydrei Sub Nasty Plot, Specs Hydrei isnt too good imo

And you likely want Tera Water on Tusk over Steel for Bax

[ruby crest]

Go tera water on tusk with lefties, and speed creep iron Val after a spin you outspeed non boosted iron Vals, eq > cc, boots on king, specs iron Val, sub np hydra > specs, bulky cinderace here, and bu corv > gambit

[subtle rose]

ur speed control into smt like pult is gonna be pretty rough

[ruby crest]

I was about to say wait no the pult mu just got slight worse tho then I would just do normal ace with sucker and scarf iron Val then

[olive haven]

https://pokepast.es/d6528fc13a3d9412
I wanted to do a Scizor/Rotom-Wash core, and it got me consistently around the 1500 mark. How did I do and what can I improve?

[subtle rose]

yeah thats probably better

[olive haven]

https://pokepast.es/d6528fc13a3d9412

oops

[ivory basin]

what evs should i run on hydreigon?

[ruby crest]

Just standard max max

[ivory basin]

ok

[solid sinew]

I'd make Tusk Eject Pack, Rotom SpDef w/ T-wave over Wisp and Protect Tera Fairy, and run Mixed booster Valiant for some speed control beyond Scizor priority

Also definitely Tera Fairy or Ground on Baxcalibur

[surreal raven]

Whats some support i should use to build around an HO Gambit, Valiant, Moth, Pult?

[tulip viper]

https://pokepast.es/7175f2b21905b0b8

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[dry edge]

A lead like Glimmora or Meowscarada is still good in these kinds of teams. I suppose the last mon depends on your sets, since just a couple weeks ago it would have been Orthworm

[tulip viper]

I’ve given Clod Lefties already instead of Black Sludge

[dry edge]

Its a good start. You can afford a different item on Great Tusk like Leftovers, since Cinderace also helps with hazard control and Clodsire absorbs Toxic Spikes.

That being said you are really weak to Meowscarada and Breloom unless you get to bait them with a tera from the get go.

I was thinking we can try to fit Amoonguss somewhere since its really good right now, helps vs Garganacl and has good synergy with Dondozo, and ofc helps with the grasses. But I am not sure it can fit so easily, you would probably need to replace another Pokemon as well

[tulip viper]

Hmmmmm

I was admittedly on the fence about adding h-zoroark, do you think there’s another spatk sweeper that might work better with amoonguss?

Maybe Clod can be replaced with Amoonguss

Reshape the whole special attack/defense aspect of this team

[dry edge]

I dont think its bad there tbh

[tulip viper]

Hmmmm

[dry edge]

I just find it a bit weird to structure cause the least useful here seems to be Rotom-W, but it is the ground immunity which is nice to have

But I am not sure what it does besides that

[surreal raven]

is dual screens viable enough?

[dry edge]

You can try, they are not bad

[surreal raven]

i'm the expert of dual screens, so i'll try my luck

[dry edge]

hazard control is not bad either tbh. Like Healing Wish Hatt or Eject Pack Tusk could also be good

[tulip viper]

Let’s see

My good ground counter options are Dragonite I’d think
Or Hydreigon?

I don’t think Corviknight would be that useful

On my team I mean

[mystic quarry]

https://pokepast.es/ae366c53395f1b33 is this team bad

how do I make it good

[sly mauve]

Run stomping tantrum on amoongus so it can counter goldengo and prolly also run a negative speed nature on it so u hit it harder

[mystic quarry]

thoughts on ways to help clod handle steels?

I run into that so often

[sly mauve]

What steel are u struggling with

[mystic quarry]

corv

scizor can be rough too depending

[sly mauve]

Maybe for go protect on rotom and go with T bolt

[ruby crest]

Go tera dragon on pult, spdef tera fairy room-w, eject on amoong giga > gknot, foul play > clear smog, Kingambit > meow, cinderace > clodsire, and physdef tusk > offensive

[mystic quarry]

so basically dump the whole thing lol

[sly mauve]

I disagree with foul play go with stomping

Stomping stops dengo from setting up

[ruby crest]

You really aren’t dumping the whole thing lol clod is unnecessary since tusk + amoong and going spdef on washer just covers what clod would’ve done, gambit gives you a much better ghost resist as well can be helpful in checking handful of stuff

[ruby crest]

Foul play is much better helps with hitting setup mons like dnite and friends and still allowing you to hit dengo and pult

[sly mauve]

U spore set up moms

[ruby crest]

What if another Mon is asleep?

[sly mauve]

U switch

Dengo sets up for free

On amoongus

[ruby crest]

Foul play is a lot better

And again what do you do when the dengo is ballon

[sly mauve]

U don’t stay in

Foul play doesn’t kill dengo

U can set up and recover on it

[ruby crest]

It’s not about killing it it’s about pressuring it and not letting it for free

[sly mauve]

Foils doesn’t do more than 50

U get stalled out

And ur dead

[ruby crest]

That’s good chip tbh

And amoong can take a hit lol

[sly mauve]

Not after a nasty plot

And if it’s lefties dengo or scarf dengo with trick ur fucked

[ruby crest]

That’s if it’s already in np which amoong already hit in on the switch

[sly mauve]

The u recover

Dengo gets free set up

Dengo switches in on reading spore for amoongus

Where u stomping tantrum in return

After which does more than %50 killing it next turn

If its air balloon u can sack amoongus and revenge kill with dragapult

I can see foul play being good but I prefer trantrum

[ruby crest]

Stomping tantrum is very situational and useless if there’s no dengo (even more so with ballon) foul play at least has more merit to it and why would you sack amoong when it can be useful in the match?

Fwiw this argument has been detailing the thread so move on

[sly mauve]

Fair

[mystic quarry]

I may end up trying both

but I'll prob do foul first

I do like ace over meow if only for court memes

would band still be preferred on ace or should I go scarf

[west harbor]

boots is best you don’t need to run choice on it

[mystic quarry]

https://pokepast.es/d007d327029e3bd1 this is what I got with the info provided from before, unsure which ev set for a few would be best

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[mystic quarry]

also the tera fire on ace is arbitrary but I imagine you wouldnt tera him anyways often

[green citrus]

The tusk should be max hp and physdef

Maybe with some room for speed based on speed tiers u hit after a rapid spin

Enough to outpace volcarona is usually safe

For rotom, spdef is 9/10 times better off with twave

For valiant, volc, pult, and wake

Rocks over CC on tusk and if u want cinder can have sucker or wisp over gunk

Last change up to u completely is modest on pult.

Overall solid 6, good volturn core + The usual OU backbone that is kingambit tusk

Take it to ladder and see how it does for u

[ruby crest]

I was thinking zen as another option for ace to smack pex better

[green citrus]

Possible

[mystic quarry]

I'll play around w/ ace for sure

speed on tusk was just me overlooking carryover from offensive build, I'll have to look into speed yea

I made the other changes as well and wisp seems interesting on ace, I'll try it

[mystic quarry]

would trailblaze be worth or more of a meme set?

[ruby crest]

Not worth it

[warped ingot]

https://pokepast.es/12d4cb85bfc329c0

[ruby crest]

a bit late but go for bu taunt corv, physdef rockstusk > treads this allows you to go for spikes on chomp, and psyshock > shadow ball on iron val also you would run naive on it

though if you want the moves are pretty much experimental so you can try some other stuff like encore to take advantage of passive stuff or dbond to remove threats with you

[lilac sun]

@ruby crest https://pokepast.es/deaf001b0b22037b

[ruby crest]

are you going for ho here?

[lilac sun]

yes

[ruby crest]

go spikes on glimmora, rocks eject pack tusk, dd baxc > pult , and sd gambit > corv

oh also tera ghost > fairy and shadow ball > tbolt on iron va

[lilac sun]

https://pokepast.es/124ad0e97b373243 this good

[ruby crest]

max max on gambit tera dark, max attack max speed on tuskothy cc > eq, and loaded dice dd baxc > pult

[lilac sun]

[ruby crest]

also if you feel tspikes become annoying iron moth > volc

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[zenith wraith]

https://pokepast.es/c40656794b340c90

first try at a hyper offense team ! (also first time trying to teambuild in showdown in like 4 months lol) please lemme know what i should change !!

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[fading wind]

https://pokepast.es/c25db8107ef63067
Hello, I'm trying to make this sun team with Walking Wake work out. I think my main problem is that I get wrecked by certain Water types? Also Torkoal isn't the easiest to get onto the field. Any advice?

[solid sinew]

I think you should make Garchomp mixed with LO Draco, change roaring moon to CB Dragonite and make gholdengo scarf. Other than that it looks good!

Actually since you're going HO, I would switch Corv out to a Bulky Cinderace since that still gets you hazard control and pivoting while still keeping a Valiant check.

[zenith wraith]

Thank you! I was thinking about scarf gholdengo already, but having recovery on it has proven to be pretty useful

[ruby crest]

torkoal should generally be lead a lot of the time to get sun up so the team can make use of sun, tho you do have some outliars brute bonnet > amoongus, great tusk > kingambit, and eject hatt hw > valiant

also tera blast tera ground on volc > giga

[fading wind]

Ok so that's replace Amoongus with BB, Kingambit with Great Tusk, and what's HW?

Also should Tusk be an attacker or a rocker

[ruby crest]

healing wish hatterene

[fading wind]

oh ok

[ruby crest]

tusk should be an attacker

[fading wind]

Wallbreaker or Sweeper then

I'm leaning towards Wallbreaker

Since I think getting Tusk fast enough to sweep is a challenge

[winter steppe]

https://pokepast.es/9472596f5f70e3e4

@wanton root
you asked for it

[ruby crest]

more of a breaker headlong rush, cc, knock, ice spinner

[winter steppe]

len posts worst sun team of all time

asked to leave smogcord

[wanton root]

I wanted you to post it so it would get rated

not bc I really wanted to see it lol

[winter steppe]

oh oop

my b

misinterpreted that

but yeah im down for it to get rated though

[fading wind]

Thanks, what would you recommend its item be? CB, Leftovers?

[winter steppe]

sandy shocks sun offense

[ruby crest]

lefties

[fading wind]

👍

Is Brute defensive or offensive?

(Also sorry for all the questions I'm very new at this)

[ruby crest]

tho you can also mess with rocky helm to punish u turners and such but lefties helps

bb is offensive

[fading wind]

Cool

Does the Smogon sample set work well enough

[winter steppe]

bb can get stupid strong with a proto boost and growth

its scuffed

[ruby crest]

it does

[fading wind]

Cool

Oh right, what should Tusks's Tera Type be

[ruby crest]

fighting is fine

[fading wind]

Neat

Ok, went with the Smogon sample set for Eject Button Hatterene

does that work here?

[ruby crest]

Ye

[fading wind]

Many thanks

[ruby crest]

no problemo

[ruby crest]

this not too bad for a first built team, i would recommend eject pack rocks great tusk > chomp, dd taunt moon > cb, tera ghost shadow ball > tbolt on iron val, spikes glimmora > corv (corviknight is to passive generally for ho especially this set), and tera fighting on breloom

[mystic quarry]

https://pokepast.es/1a902d4edd73ec88 I made a new one to try as well, was wondering if anyone had any thoughts

[digital lava]

i use jugulis and i highly suggest running booster speed with dpulse hcane taunt flamethrower, way better set in general

[solid quiver]

Ok ty

[cosmic dagger]

Hi guys, can someone share with me a gen 9 balance ou team?

im to lazy to build something

[ruby crest]

Ask that in #comp-general this thread for completed teams wanting to be rated

[solid sinew]

So I'd make Roaring Moon the taunt DD set, Valiant Specs and Garganacl Tera Fairy with Rocks.

[cosmic dagger]

Ty, sorry

[mystic quarry]

I feel like I'd lose out on a 2nd turn doing that, I may try it tho

garg fairy sounds interesting, rn I have ghost to block out fighting/extreme speed on drag

would tera fighting work against kingambit?

[solid sinew]

Tera Fairy Garg gives Dnite a pretty hard time esp since you have Corv

Im not sure what you mean by lose a 2nd turn

[digital lava]

run tera steel on moon and tera water on garg is significantly better than tera ghost
also change corv tera to fighting

[digital lava]

why fairy

use water

[mystic quarry]

or 3rd* u-turn

I forgot I had on corv as well as ace

[solid sinew]

I suggested Fairy cuz he's fairly pult weak as it stands now

[mystic quarry]

how would I handle the likes of moth/volc

not just w/ garg but in-general

rn I use garg or ace depending on if tera grass or not on volc

[digital lava]

if hes weak to pult just run bax ddance dice set with shard instead of glaive or booster speed valiant

[mystic quarry]

I wouldn't say pult is particularly a problem

not so far anyways

[digital lava]

tera water garg

[mystic quarry]

grass weakness still applies

[digital lava]

moth energy ball usage dropped hard

[solid sinew]

You have Corv and cinder too

[digital lava]

ppl finally realizing dgleam on moth is valuable

[mystic quarry]

cinder yeah, but corv just loses to either automatically no?

[solid sinew]

Corv for meow

[mystic quarry]

for meow yeah

is that what the terra fighting would be for? or dark in-general

[solid sinew]

Yeah that and gambit

[mystic quarry]

gotcha

[digital lava]

can i ask why u added washtom

[digital lava]

stab boost for bpress as well

[mystic quarry]

wanted to keep classic volt turn angle ig

spdef pivoting and twave have been nice

though I've noticed w/ either phs def or sp def builds rotom feels kinda eh in this team

[digital lava]

i ask because washtom just feels random

imo it would work if u ran choice scarf trick on it

instead of lefties

[mystic quarry]

hydros and twave have come in clutch but maybe hat or slowking would be better?

I'm a terrible trick user lol

[digital lava]

u could try it on an alt or something so that ur elo doesnt tank

to practice

[solid sinew]

Actually I was thinking about that too

I didn't touch it because it was whatever but I'm thinking about azu on that team

[digital lava]

oh shit they need priority

lmao

they have sucker but like

..

nothing else

[digital lava]

honestly i would agree with azu added on that team

[mystic quarry]

azu seems interesting

how worth is spinner on azu?

[digital lava]

very niche

if u despise psyspam teams use it

[mystic quarry]

or rather I'm assuming jet drum and play rough are staple

[digital lava]

either set could work its up to you

[mystic quarry]

I'll try it for sure

[digital lava]

i would use bdrum here personally

because you have band moon

[mystic quarry]

I was using dd at first but I prefer band

[solid sinew]

I don't think band moon is good except on sun tbh

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[ruby crest]

Tera ghost shadow ball > aura on iron Val, eject pack rocks tusk, sd lum Kingambit > slowking, and lead meow > garg

[tired arrow]

https://pokepast.es/1712f69d2d4e9116
(sorry if im an idiot)

[ruby crest]

This really wants speed control tho it’s also unbelievable close to a sample team that I’m surprised it isn’t just that

[wanton root]

https://pokepast.es/d472a170197dee84

@ruby crest

Actually this is ass

Nevermind

💀

[surreal raven]

https://pokepast.es/ff37c16a67679649
haven't played ou, how to do this

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[surreal bloom]

basic

rocks>bu on tusk

[real willow]

Rocks on be tusk?

Ur definitely gonna want Stealth Rocks somewhere

Ok a few things

• You'll want speed on Kingambit to outspeed min speed Corviknight (the set on Smogon has the necessary investment listed)
• Your team is lacking Stealth Rock, I would make your Great Tusk the defensive set so that it can set up Rocks and also be a defensive fallback for your team against opposing Tusk and Kingambit

• Your Azumarill contributes more defensively if it carries an Assault Vest, so I'd drop Belly Drum for Ice Spinner and go with AV Azu for special bulk

[ruby crest]

I would do max speed on gambit with tera dark, you can do lum berry > black glasses, np h zoro > moon, encore > liquidation on azu, tera ghost > grass on lead meow this prevents tusk to spin them away hazards, and eject pack rocks tusk

[cerulean hinge]

https://pokepast.es/f8075f2e8da4170d
Tried making a offensive team

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[ruby crest]

this looks overly solid i would recommend bulky wisp ace, tera fire lefties on gambit, tera water on tusk and invest up to 136 on speed so you otuspeed non boosted iron val after a spin, also up to you i would go tera dragon on pult and modest for more breaking power tho sub hex pult also works here

[cerulean hinge]

modest on pult actually sounds really good since I have 2 mons w priority so the extra speed isnt all thaat necessary lol

the one MU I have trouble with the most is Garg

[ruby crest]

you dont miss out on speed outside of like +1 ada dnite and with ace in the back as well

yeah garg mu looks rough not much you can do withotu sacrificing something crucial here

you can go tera fairy on azu i supposed

[cerulean hinge]

maybe, but the switch in before tera is still a nightmare

[woeful depot]

Question is intelleon better than greninja ? Or is it still ou because it’s not really centimeted itself in the meta yet ?

[rain gyro]

It's still OU because it just came out

Everything starts at OU unless It starts quickbanned

[stone onyx]

https://pokepast.es/6c87d834c9e5bc70

cm serene grace bliss stall

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[weary crypt]

https://pokepast.es/8f7636faebe93414 mean look kingambit anti stall

[dry edge]

Maybe try the sample set for Scream Tail instead

Scream Tail @ Leftovers
Ability: Protosynthesis
EVs: 120 HP / 236 SpD / 152 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
Tera Type: Fairy / Water
Timid Nature

• Dazzling Gleam
• Wish
• Protect
• Encore

You have Jolly Nature (which lowers your SpA) and 4 Atk EVs despite not having a physical attack

The EVs on this set allow you to outspeed Hydreigon and get a SpDef boost under sun

[weary crypt]

Sounds good

I think I just threw in the moves and clicked the recommended spread

You know the builder guesser

[dry edge]

That's fair, I can see that happening for sure

[fervent silo]

https://pokepast.es/2150b3c1001c957b

Any recommendations to make it better? :)

If the recommendation is switching a mon or two or something like that I'm willing to I just want a good team that's like this lol

[ruby crest]

a bit late but i would recommend you go sd tera fire lefties gambit, specs pult > iron moth (this gives you speed control which your team really needed and a decent breaker), tect > wisp on spdef rotom-w and change the tera to fairy (fairy tera is reallyhelpful for a bunch of dragon and checking other stuff like wake, pult, etc and being able to twave them, and tect providing a way to scout move for potential choice mons and make good use to recover some health lefties), make great tusk physdef with tera water and 56 speed evs (tera water is a great defensive tera and 56 speed allows you to speed creep chomp after a spin and a couple of mons like scarf dengo at +2), scarf iron val > breloom ( doing this gives you a way to mess up mons that rely on items that could be roadblocks to gambit and pult and secondary speed control), and covert cloak bu taunt corv (you already have hazard control with tusk doing this with corv lets it play against mons that would give it issues like garg and taunt to give stall a headache)

[fervent silo]

You gotta be the smartest dude on the planet what the hell

@ruby crest thank you for the tips I appreciate the help :)

Taunt corv is something I never even considered that's incredibly helpful for garganacci's annoying ass and other mons

I got 1 question tho

What is tect (the thing for rotom)

I'm stupid that's protect lmao nvm

Thanks for the help again I'll keep these in mind 😁

[ruby crest]

No problemo also a big optional i advise tera dragon on pult for powerful draco, and if you feel you want more power you can try modest

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[main vigil]

https://pokepast.es/0ef79de8ad3cbf25 - I got around 1400 elo and I cant really break past it. Any advice?

[copper fable]

https://pokepast.es/5b8811995bc6ee93

Wanted to build Tyranitar for literally no reason other than it's Tyranitar.

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[ruby crest]

Garg and ttar on the same team seems a bit rebudant you honestly want a flyer somewhere her and could do just go rocks on tusk, spdef washer rotom-w > pex, and amoong > garg

[copper fable]

I'm gonna be honest, I threw Garg on almost solely bc "haha sand boost gives me actual justification to use Ttar."

https://pokepast.es/60e7af4784d211b8
anyway

[ruby crest]

Tera water on tusk and do like focus blast dbond > cc and knock on iron Val everything else is fine also you can do like eject button or covert on amoong

[onyx halo]

https://pokepast.es/936a06f883a6e806

Wanted to try Baxcy

[digital lava]

use ddance dice bax

https://pokepast.es/c1eb42b978b628c0

[ruby crest]

I woudnt use dd baxc in this build tbh

[digital lava]

use it with anything that ohkos dozo

and u win every game

[silk hamlet]

https://pokepast.es/bebbf275fc1daa12

@ruby crest @green citrus

How ass is it

[green citrus]

Well

It has the usual Glimmer Issue

I bet u know what i mean

[silk hamlet]

I get it

Does tspikes moth still work

[green citrus]

Prob

Thing is like

Agility moth spikes u should just

Build meow HO tbh

[silk hamlet]

Meow ho is boring and already discovered a lot

Dont like it that much yk

Maybe i could like

Turn this into tspikes moth fat

https://pokepast.es/d0e810af4ff6f07b

[green citrus]

Some styles like that exist, usually have slowking

[silk hamlet]

Then slowking then like

Scarf val last i guess?

https://pokepast.es/69909e9676e61ad7

[ruby crest]

double rocks setter gaming

[silk hamlet]

I

Forgot

[ruby crest]

would say could go taunt or rest on ting, def tera fire on gambit cause your answer to volc are slowking and ting lu which can lose, tera water on tusk with 96 speed for other iron moth, focus blast> cc on iron val, 3rd move is up to you can do tbolt for corv or dbond to dick over other threats

might as well tackle on other teams needing for a rate

[ruby crest]

@silk hamlet ^

[silk hamlet]

Saw it dw

I was thinking whether or not tbolt

I decided for it

[ruby crest]

either way 3rd move is hella customizable

so pick what you want to hit or make good use of

[indigo junco]

I'm lower latter but this team has done me a bunch of good, any advice?

[ruby crest]

go wisp ace > sucker (you already have a way to punish ghosts with bish, wisp is great to crippling threats like non fire tera gambit, dnite, and moon), go spdef fairy rotom-w > sand shocks ( you still maintain and effective pivot but now you have better way to take on threats like wake, pult, etc), specs dragapult > polteageist (polt really only should be used in psyspam otherwise pult and hzoro are much more better ghost, and dragapult provides you another pivot and a decent breaker), go physdef tusk > offensive with tera water and 96 speed evs ( you want a rocker which tusk provides as well as a solid backbone, tera water is a great defensive typing, and the 96 speed evs lets you outspeed non speed booster energy iron moth), lastly i would change up the moveset on iron val for focus blast > cc, and trick > shadow ball ( focus blast is still a strong fighting stab to jab at corv and non tera garg, while trick is very useful to cripple mons that can be major roadblocks)

[indigo junco]

thank you i'll implement some of these <3

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/1c369f43002ac71f thoughts

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[fallow crag]

This team is really, really weak to opposing Rotom-W and you already have some decent wincons in hydreigon and kingambit, so I think amoonguss > gholdengo is a good shout

[sly mauve]

yeah i was wondering if i needed to nasty plotters

[ruby crest]

Also to add above eq > rocks on garg and go rocks on tusk > bp and speed invest 96 so tusk can outspeed non boosted iron moth, tera fire on gambit to better handle volc, t wave > wisp, and tera steel on hydra

Tho

Saying this made me realize you are in desperate need of speed control

[sly mauve]

i think i want poison on hydra to better be ready for fighting types

[ruby crest]

With amoong here you are fine tho

You def are bound to replace either hydra or garg here cause you really want speed control

The option is up to you which one you would prefer to keep both have their merit to the team tho I’m more in favor of hydra here but it’s all up you, either whoever you pick I would suggest scarf iron Val

[sly mauve]

i got rid of garg and going hat

and making hat a screen setter

[ruby crest]

You don’t need hat

That just makes your team even slower

And screens is random in this team archetype

Like I said go scarf iron Val

[sly mauve]

idk how much i like scarfed val

it seems to be useless for me

[weary crypt]

💀

You see the usefulness is it outspeeds and kills

[real willow]

Best rk for walking wake in sun

[sly mauve]

Valiant mostly has done nothing each game for me

It’s usually something I sack

https://pokepast.es/e427f50752ed3e7a this is the updated team

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[sly mauve]

i might swap valiant for dragapult

[weak snow]

Mmm imo flash cannon hydragon>>>

[sly mauve]

gambit becomes a problem then

[weak snow]

Idk you have tusk and valiant

For gambit

[sly mauve]

ting lu as well

[weak snow]

Mmm Just use flash cannon on ting Lu

With tera steel you can ohko pult and valiant

[sly mauve]

valiant can kill me

i also dont like keeping the fighting weakness

[onyx halo]

Which one of these is better

https://pokepast.es/0f12369910439642

https://pokepast.es/c1935293e8400961

[sly mauve]

poison gets rid of cc and moonblast on val

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[sly mauve]

also being immune to toxic is ncie

[sly mauve]

i like gambit more

[onyx halo]

alr

why is that exactly?

bc no ting lu leaves the team super pult weak

[sly mauve]

i mean gambit resists both stabs from pult regardless not to mention u have scarfed valiant andd ur own pult as well to keep it in check

gambit deals wwithh pult with sucker punch

ur team is pretty offensive

i also dont think having both tanks be weak to wake is really a good idea

[onyx halo]

oh right

wake

forgot it was existed

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/4ace9e93396e5d8b

Haven't tested it too much but i wanted to run garchomp and dragapult together as they're my two favorite mons design wise. Any tips or advice would be appreciated. Some of the flaws i've noticed are that the team gets blown away by garganacl unless i cheese with kingambit late game. Dragapult also ends up feeling like dead weight if i'm forced to tera something else like volcarona or kingambit, but i'm not sure if that means i should switch to phantom force or go for the normal specs/banded set. Probably should replace rocks for spikes on garchomp as well since great tusk has it

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[ruby crest]

my first suggestion is go spikes > sr on garchomp you already have a rocker with great tusk and can form a decent hazard stacking core with them, next i would recommend subhex dragapult > dd (dd dragapult is something you would use for ho, despite there being better dd users, and sub hex makes good use of status spreader in the team to still be a potent wincon), amoonguss with red card > volcarona (amoonguss still maintains as an iron val check and gives you another status spreader with dragapult, along with better way to deal with opposing great tusk which could be problematic for the team to deal with. Red card allows amoonguss to take a hit from something and bring something in that wouldnt want to get spored), eq > bpress on tusk a much more spammable move especially to hit mons like pex, amoong, and slowking then being complete dead weight against them also i would recommend investing 136 speed evs so after a spin you outspeed non speed boosted or scarf iron val, btw lefties > hdb cause you want to maintain tusk to get some type of recovery to check waht you want it to check , go tera fire > flying and lefties on kingambit this allows so when it tera it can take on volc which is annoying outside of garchomp, lastly i would recommend spdef rotom-w > hatt this maintains another spreader for hex pult but also good in improving your mu against like walking wake.

Import of team: https://pokepast.es/998859acce4d3c18

[sly mauve]

thank you so much, appreciate it a lot

https://pokepast.es/53af21d45dedc1f9 thoughts

[ruby crest]

this team should be reworked too much it wants to do that clashes with it, torkoal + wake may as well commit to sun, while toedscruel is generally for offensive teams wouldnt use it in sun, neither scizor, and corv and donzo are way to passive for offensive teams and can kill a lot of momentum

[sly mauve]

sorry to bother but is there a reason for tera fairy over ghost for Dragapult?

i'm assuming it's to deal with any scarfed dragons running around and potentially opposing dragapults

[ruby crest]

It’s for other dragons but also a decent defensive typing that takes a lot of weakness away from pult being able to take a dragon move can be helpful as well

[sly mauve]

makes sense, thank you again

[fair bane]

This is my current SV OU Team, I wanted to know if there's anything I can do to improve it :]
https://pokepast.es/429f5404b3804a6b

[wanton root]

@ruby crest glhf

[ruby crest]

This ineeds a rework all of these mons don’t really work together, random, very niche, or either have wrong sets for certain archetypes

[fair bane]

A lot of these sets I took from Smogon, and I also used Marriland's team builder to ensure I had coverage ^^

[ruby crest]

Even then one a lot of these mons are straight up niche or only viable to certain archetypes

And some of these sets you prob took them from the tier

Talon is ou is a glorified stall mon spattscjer

[fair bane]

being predictable is so boringggg thoughhhhh

[ruby crest]

I mean you are able to run whatever you feel at the end of the day so you can still run this if that’s what you like more

[hoary raven]

https://pokepast.es/0c81d00d18f00194

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[hoary raven]

someone please help me tackle whatever this quad prio team is

and keep breloom

breloom is cool

[thorn eagle]

https://pokepast.es/04871845f52e405c we made this team open to critism, team is made for laddering to top 10, big thanks to @sly mauve for helping a lot

[ruby crest]

not even sure myself what is it you are aiming for here if you are going for some type of ho or what

[ruby crest]

this is just

a sample team

but with garg gambit > av pex and ace .-.

[daring violet]

dont like poison tera on nacl, i don't like sr + curse (i think eq / block) might be a better option. give tusk sr

agreed with tyson

its the sample team but 2 changes

gambit should run flying, fire, or dark tera

[thorn eagle]

oh

my b

[daring violet]

id make gambit faster maybe 252 speed

[ruby crest]

i was thinking of replacing gambit with ace tbh you already have hydra and garg for ghosts

another pivot would be nice

or just use the actual team

https://pokepast.es/599b76acc0f1d16c just so you know what team we are talking about

[fallow frigate]

https://pokepast.es/65c4bf499b15cc45

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[fallow frigate]

Rate my team pls

[daring violet]

bulldoze might be better than tera blast fire, might be best to opt into steel tera for defensive purposes on loom. id make nacl full def and make pex full sp.def. i dont think fits on this team i think a breaker would be a nice replacement

[fallow frigate]

I replaced it with Hydregion

[daring violet]

hydrei isn't bad

but i think a choice specs or banded mon would be nice here

[fallow frigate]

Tera fire has been very handy in dealing with other grass types

And gholdengo

[daring violet]

i think its worthy teraing other mons

on the team

not sash loom

[fallow frigate]

I removed Gargancl for another set I'm trying hyper offense with loom as a disturber for any hazards

Aka you don't get to set hazards and neither do i

As a lead spore stops most hazarders

[daring violet]

entry hazard remover would be nice on the team

[fallow frigate]

Well idk is excadrill in OU or is he in UU

[daring violet]

excadrill isn't in sv ou currently

[fallow frigate]

Damnnn

I miss him man

Well lemme show you what i have i have a second version of this team for full offense

https://pokepast.es/59260ed77b372d35

[sly mauve]

i'm a little confused on liquidation on iron valiant, especially if you're already running walking wake. this team needs some sort of hazard support imo, you wanna take advantage of the opponent trying to switch into the incoming threats and it'll help prevent having the tables immediately turned on you by any sashed mon. if the opponent just switches into something that forces breloom out, they can set up hazards later. it also has to deal with sashed meowscarada who doesn't get touched by spore and can set up spikes before it leaves or something of the sort. the team also lacks speed control outside of booster energy support and setting up with walking wake, which i don't think is reliable long term

[wanton root]

@green citrus https://pokepast.es/a00409ab380afc30

this is pretty weak to wash, any idea how I would fix

[ruby crest]

Ho/ offense doesn’t always really need hazards especially when a lot of mons on their own in this team can pave the way for other teams to win later on, liquidation is a most on sd iron Val otherwise Volcarona just stay in on you forever, as far as speed control goes there’s also iron Val and iron month for other options as speed control while yes they rely on booster energy iron Val is still fast for this team

[sly mauve]

didn't think about the volcarona vs iron valiant mu like that my bad

[ruby crest]

No worries it’s also useful for hitting other mons like non water absorb clod, non tera garg, dirge etc

[jovial wraith]

I've only just started playing SV OU, I usually only played SS and BW but I watch a ton of SV content

https://pokepast.es/3508319e06fbbd54

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[jovial wraith]

This team is honestly a mess, if someone could give me tips on improving it that'd be great. I'm open to changing any mon except Staraptor. Thanks!

[ruby crest]

Staraptor and maybe a few others ironically are the things that need to be change cause staraptor is just not good

[jovial wraith]

Staraptor has surprisingly been performing the best. I know he’s not good in OU tho lol

I’m pretty low ladder tho like 1250 ish maybe?

[ruby crest]

Yeah low ladder you can get away with a lot of stuff

[jovial wraith]

I’m definitely gonna ditch this team once I hit like 1350-1400

Staraptor has been very useful revenge killing things like Great Tusk, Valiant and Kingambit. They usually think it’s Zoroark lol

[rain gyro]

Lmao fr

I mean there are better revenge killers for these mons but i see where you're coming from

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/4b013e8354524142 thoughts on the set up team

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[ruby crest]

primeape will never be annihilape and just is overshadowed by other picks at the end of the day no matter how close the concept is with screens, sd lum gambit > dirge ur ghost mu is non existent, bd encore azu > ape gives you a way to screw over fatter mons that would be annoying otherwise, tera fairy > dragon on baxc defensive tera for dd baxc can come in clutch a lot of times, lastly i understand why you would run "supportive moves" on aboma but its honestly way to slow to even make a lot of good use and would be better to smack some stuff as well so i recommend 52 evs which makes you faster then no speed dirge max spa modest and the rest dumped in hp, moveset veil, blizzard, ep filler blizzard is powerful stab that is easy to spam when you want it to hit say a non tera dnite, while ep is good for torkoals coming in to switch weather, last move could be whatever leech seed, leaf storm for another strong stab, maybe ice shard if your into that tho modest may affect some secures, tera can honestly be water tho you really wont tera much with snow

[fallow frigate]

Well the lad did reply and answer to why i have liquidation and that's why breloom has Tera blast Fire so he can deal with the grass types that are immune to spore

I don't want to rely on Hazards I'm trying to find a way to shift my attention from hazards

Since most teams have a hazard setter or hazard removal i can use the setter when it's stopped by breloom for an easy switch in to anything i want or use the hazard remover like corv and others who's main role is as a hazard remover to setup easier since now they can't do much

[sly mauve]

didn't really think about it like that

my bad

[rain gyro]

https://pokepast.es/1062abef9f49622b

built something fun

[ruby crest]

loaded dice > hdb on baxc, booster iron moth > volc, np h zoro > roaring moon

[rain gyro]

ok ty

[ruby crest]

Also optional if you feel gambit gets statused to frequent you can do lum > glasses

[rain gyro]

gotcha, i'll test and tell ty

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/b94c38f23caa943f

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[subtle rose]

dont run sash horo when ur lead doesnt deny hazards

and this team is not offensive enough to justify a glimmora

also if u are trying to setup multiple hazards with it why would u even look at cchange

[ruby crest]

What he said I’ll give this a look in a bit if no one has done anything

[ruby crest]

So as he stated above sash glimmora ain’t it here tho you can do scarf glimmora even with corrosion toxic which can be good at catching steels and poisons like pex, clod, etc, you def want a sturdier ghost check outside of just Hzoro so kingambit > volc would be good here Tera wise you can do fairy lefties tho go fire if you feel glimmora + ace if volc mu is still annoying, go bulky ace, physded tusk since you need a rocker now and speed invest 96 for non boosted iron moth, and lastly specs h zoro > np tho sub hex wouldn’t be too bad here as well with all the status but then you may as well go sub hex pult

Tho you did tried making ho but was more closer to a. Weird offense that also wanted to be bo more than anything

[opaque hamlet]

https://pokepast.es/6b6a4da103e3da6c

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[opaque hamlet]

It's my old team again

Replaced with Volc

No Assault Vest on GT

Just Lefties

[green citrus]

Its not bad

[opaque hamlet]

Any changes are appreciated

[green citrus]

Id do trick on valiant over a coverage option and protect on rotom over twave

And change volc to either giga or tera blast fairy over wisp

Wisp volc is quite uh

Not him anymore

Oh wait u do have giga. No qd is not good

[opaque hamlet]

Thanks for the advice mate

[green citrus]

Atp u might as well use a real like, defensive mon

Ykno

[opaque hamlet]

It's the bulky variant from the Smogon page

[green citrus]

Spread is fine

Just needs qd

[opaque hamlet]

Please suggest me one

[green citrus]

Generally for defensive volc set u do

Qd, msun, fiery dance, and either tera grass giga or tera fairy blast

Depending on what u want to bone more

[opaque hamlet]

Oh Wisp is not useful?

[opaque hamlet]

Trick is very tricky for me to use and T-bolt helps me to surprise K.O Corvi

Why protect on Rotom?

[opaque hamlet]

What was he used to be?

[green citrus]

I dont think scarf tbolt does anything impressive to corv, long term ur better off tricking it

U just want the moves that snipe offensive threats and trick to not be useless vs fat

Protect on rotomnis just standard filler to scout choice mons and gain an extra lefties turn

Wisp volc died because of just the vast amount of counterplay is all, a lot of the targets it used to snipe commonly run tera fire now so

🫡

[opaque hamlet]

The thing is people are very smart and getting a Band instead of Lefties is laughable lol

That kind of a great player I am

[opaque hamlet]

Oh

[opaque hamlet]

What should I replace this with?

[green citrus]

Discharge

Hydro volt twave tect is solid

[opaque hamlet]

WHAAAAT

Discharge is spammable right?

[green citrus]

Eh

Only if ur hax fishing

Tect is just better for defensive rotom

All u really do is volt and twave shit

And occasionally pump a threat like moth or tusk wtc

Etc

[wanton root]

You need prot for actual survivability

Or you’re just a defensive pivot without recovery

[true tusk]

https://pokepast.es/bde853b2aca6fb23

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[true tusk]

Want to use moth :)

[solid sinew]

Do you want to go HO with this?

You're team is like half HO with defensive mons

[true tusk]

I prob should go ho

[ruby crest]

Agility > sludge on moth, lum Tera dark on gambit, lead meow > pivot, eject pack rocks great tusk, dd baxc > dnite, and np h zoro > washer

[solid sinew]

I'd do all of ^^ but personally run booster Valiant over Rotom and run Tera Fire Gambit with lefties.

[true tusk]

Cool cool, thx guys!

[opaque hamlet]

Hax fishing?

[wanton root]

Trying to get the secondary effect

Think pex clicking scald

[hoary raven]

https://pokepast.es/8d720d7bf5baf96f

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[hoary raven]

interesting balance team

shocks is toptier mons and none of you can say otherwise

[subtle rose]

need speed control

likely want some sort of eject pack tusk + booster speed shocks / val

[hoary raven]

noted

purpose of ejectpack on tusk?

[opaque hamlet]

Gotcha, thanks

[tulip stag]

https://pokepast.es/c75329bbed10745a

[ruby crest]

i assume you where tyring to go for offense here?

[jaunty arrow]

I'm not an expert but:
Garchomp should be tera fire
Give greninja hydro pump/surf instead of water shuriken
Make meowscarada tera fairy
Mixed valient has different evs i think it's 88 atk, 252 spA & 168 speed with naive nature
Volcarona should have tera blast with tera ground instead of giga drain.
Also i think this team doesn't have a specific goal/ team type

[tulip stag]

i put water shuriken because i put choice specs
the goal is just to kill the opps
and thank you for your tip

[tulip stag]

ill change monsoon (meowscarada) with tera fairy
and garchom with tera fire and also maybe valient

[hoary raven]

yeah, though zerkas helped me see how i lacked ways to hit the fastest of mons

namely dd moon, boostie valiant, etc.

prio/dd bax as well

[ruby crest]

was thinking go lead meow > cb, cm ghost sball iron val > specs, dd fairy loaded dicebaxc > dengo, eject pack rocks tusk, and just do max speed insstead of hp on gambit tera dark lum berry, if you honestly see ironval could still be annoying you can honestly get away with lead glimmora even tho realistically it should be iron moth > shocks but thats the focus here

[paper crater]

https://pokepast.es/da5acf4e316249d5

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[paper crater]

I like this ghost spam-ish team a lot but i think i need to fit a ground immunity/resist somewhere and im not sure if im running the right sets for each mon, im also thhinking about maybe switching skeledirge out for something to beat roaring moon cuz i keep losing to that guy unless i can encore a dragon dance with valiant 💀

[rain gyro]

you don't need 4 ghosts for a ghost spam

lol

that's overkill

but i'm not THAT good so uh

yes

[paper crater]

maybe lol

i liked the 3 offensive ones and i just thought skeledirge was a good mon overall

[rain gyro]

true

i am rather extremely worried for your roaring moon matchup, though

[paper crater]

yeah .

[rain gyro]

but

i mean

ig you can tera with dirge or tusk

i'll try to do something here but take my every word with a grain of salt

[paper crater]

that is normally what i end up doing

[rain gyro]

yeah

[paper crater]

but even then iron head eventually flinches me to hell

[rain gyro]

tera tusk lets you get a hit on it

if it's acrobatics

and tera dirge lets you burn it

quick question though

what is this for

[paper crater]

maybe ill try dondozo

[rain gyro]

impish 0 def

[paper crater]

um?

[rain gyro]

like

[paper crater]

good question

[rain gyro]

why'd you run impish with 0 def lmao

[paper crater]

oh right

[rain gyro]

did you mean adamant

lol

[paper crater]

112 atk EVs

but protosynthesis buffs defense

[rain gyro]

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@ruby crest

[paper crater]

i could probably run something better though

[rain gyro]

can you confirm me whether this works

i'm feeling pressured and skill issued

lol

[paper crater]

this is its stat spread

[rain gyro]

oh i see what you tried to do here

why 144 speed though