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lilac sun Apr 17, 2023, 3:26 PM

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JosOK

warm silo Apr 17, 2023, 4:29 PM

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guys, I saw this team playing pokemmo, and I thought it was very good, I wanted to make one like it, how do you think the build of this team is?

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I'm not very good at putting together teams, so I usually see some and do the same / similar

west harbor Apr 17, 2023, 4:37 PM

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id go to #comp-general bc this channel is more for rating finished sv ou teams

subtle rose Apr 17, 2023, 4:40 PM

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also

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mamo is not in sv

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neither is chandy

warm silo Apr 17, 2023, 5:08 PM

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ok thanks

edgy bluff Apr 17, 2023, 8:36 PM

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https://pokepast.es/efda12cf90360b14 rate my team

viral sableBOT Apr 17, 2023, 8:36 PM

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agile lava Apr 17, 2023, 8:37 PM

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why typhlosion

fallow crag Apr 17, 2023, 8:37 PM

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Sadly, typhlosion is not worth using in OU

fallow crag Apr 17, 2023, 8:37 PM

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agile lava why typhlosion

Most likely cause it just came out

ruby crest Apr 17, 2023, 8:38 PM

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Free h typh

glossy jackal Apr 17, 2023, 8:53 PM

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https://pokepast.es/829f93602250dd82 rate

edgy bluff Apr 17, 2023, 8:56 PM

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agile lava why typhlosion

dunno, wanted another offensive mon that didn’t want setup so i randomly picked typholosion i guessv

agile lava Apr 17, 2023, 8:58 PM

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probably just replace it with great tusk

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and make gholdengo scarf

fallow crag Apr 17, 2023, 9:06 PM

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glossy jackal https://pokepast.es/829f93602250dd82 rate

Remove gholdengo for DD pult, make valiant cm

glossy jackal Apr 17, 2023, 9:07 PM

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I understand dd pult but I don't get how valiant should be cm because I dont think valiant is bulky enough for that

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I guess I bring it in on special attackers

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and also losing gholdengo doesn't sound good either because then I only have 1.5 special attackers

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glimmora only having earth power

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could you explain why I should make those changes?

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or like how it works

ruby crest Apr 17, 2023, 9:18 PM

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glossy jackal I guess I bring it in on special attackers

Fwiw with shed tail offense you will get opportunities to set up and even then you can force things out with booster energy

glossy jackal Apr 17, 2023, 9:18 PM

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OH so if I wanna use shed tail I may as well base my whole team around setup sweepers

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or a good portion of it

ruby crest Apr 17, 2023, 9:19 PM

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glossy jackal https://pokepast.es/829f93602250dd82 rate

I like everything so far here tbh

glossy jackal Apr 17, 2023, 9:19 PM

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then yeah cm valiant absolutely makes sense but the main reason I dont wanna lose gholdengo is because I dont wanna lose to physical walls

ruby crest Apr 17, 2023, 9:19 PM

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Only thing is yeah go cm ghost Val, lead meow > Glimmora, and then taunt np zoro or dd taunt moon > dengo

glossy jackal Apr 17, 2023, 9:19 PM

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or rely on valiant

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losing to dozo sounds annoying af

ruby crest Apr 17, 2023, 9:20 PM

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Dozo one is rare these days and gets heavily pressured by baxc and friends

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You really are more concerned for other fat physical walls then you can try dd taunt moon

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Who just shuts down a lot of them

glossy jackal Apr 17, 2023, 9:20 PM

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then running that many physical attackers ins't a problem?

ruby crest Apr 17, 2023, 9:21 PM

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Na

glossy jackal Apr 17, 2023, 9:21 PM

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I might do sub pult to shut that down instead

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so I can keep the ghost and glimmora core

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other moves would be dd tera blast darts

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tera blast ghost ofc

ruby crest Apr 17, 2023, 9:22 PM

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Thing is taunt moon just takes advantage of a lot of stuff with the sun and moon

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Even then I did say go lead meow > Glimmora

glossy jackal Apr 17, 2023, 9:28 PM

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I've never used lead meow so what do I get using that over glimmora

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I'd assume its like the spikes u turn leaf storm knock off set

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or maybe something else over knock off

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is it just fast spikes over glimmora being slower than most of the meta

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and it also beats tusk

ruby crest Apr 17, 2023, 9:31 PM

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Beating tusk, knock

glossy jackal Apr 17, 2023, 9:31 PM

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yeah I can see meow generating better momentum

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https://pokepast.es/26b61853c081f692 so I'll replace this edited one with meow over glim

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but I still dont know if I should do pult or moon

ruby crest Apr 17, 2023, 9:32 PM

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Moon tbh

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Also tera ghost and shadow ball > tbolt and tera dragon > ice on baxc

glossy jackal Apr 17, 2023, 9:33 PM

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moon taunts pokemon like clod but is also weak to fairy

and so is pult but I like the idea of having an out with tera ghost

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I think pult could be more explosive

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also do you think glaive rush is just that much better?

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maybe tera ice is just overkill anyways

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anything that dies to icicle spear dies regardless

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I'll try this team with pult because I really think it can work but yeah if it doesn't I'll for sure just use moon

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meow could also just use taunt to comp for not having moon

ruby crest Apr 17, 2023, 9:57 PM

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glossy jackal also do you think glaive rush is just that much better?

Yes

glossy jackal Apr 17, 2023, 10:30 PM

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Oh yeah thanks for the tips this team works really well

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I even overwhelmed dozo which I was worried about with just spamming darts until it rested

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Then farmed cm boosts with valiant

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 12:06 AM

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blobthumbsup

lilac sun Apr 18, 2023, 12:42 AM

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now I have a dilemma as most my team is now set up sweepers https://pokepast.es/77e735a9ab422075 Keep tusk, or embrace Sub

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 1:15 AM

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lilac sun now I have a dilemma as most my team is now set up sweepers https://pokepast.es/...

What’s the issue exactly

lilac sun Apr 18, 2023, 1:16 AM

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nothing just asking if it will be better off

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 1:17 AM

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It seems fine as it is tho you can def mess with eject pack tusk here if you want

dense fulcrum Apr 18, 2023, 2:21 AM

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https://pokepast.es/1509d03f21216267

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What do you guys think

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 4:03 AM

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dense fulcrum https://pokepast.es/1509d03f21216267

What type of team structure you going for here cause I don’t like this if it’s meant for bo or balance but it can be reworked more towards ho

dense fulcrum Apr 18, 2023, 4:03 AM

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I'm gonna be honest idk what bo or ho is

fallow crag Apr 18, 2023, 4:04 AM

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bo = bulky offense

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ho = hyper offense

dense fulcrum Apr 18, 2023, 4:05 AM

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Okay I see

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I thought ho had something to do with hazards so good to know

dense fulcrum Apr 18, 2023, 4:07 AM

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ruby crest What type of team structure you going for here cause I don’t like this if it’s m...

I dont know what I was going for honestly

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Im fine with taking whatever off, just kinda wanna use iron valiant

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 4:18 AM

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dense fulcrum Im fine with taking whatever off, just kinda wanna use iron valiant

Go cm ghost iron Val, lead meow > cb, booster energy iron month, go gambit > ting lu, orthworm > corv, dd baxc > edge

daring violet Apr 18, 2023, 5:46 AM

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tag me if anyone ones their team rated and ill get to it when i can

quasi prism Apr 18, 2023, 9:42 AM

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https://pokepast.es/91f5e5f2fc01f7a9

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sly mauve Apr 18, 2023, 10:08 AM

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https://pokepast.es/3408c456fd5a0e58 I too have an av pex team that I wish to get rated

sly mauve Apr 18, 2023, 12:27 PM

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Is this good?
First time building an OU team in SV https://pokepast.es/5f749f62ac7ebcde

sly mauve Apr 18, 2023, 1:00 PM

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I have some knowledge, so I could assist in certain ways

Most should be left to the raters thi

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Ceruledge doesn't run psycho cut, replace it with taunt

As for the rest I'll leave It to the raters

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 2:04 PM

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sly mauve Is this good? First time building an OU team in SV https://pokepast.es/5f749f62a...

Go orth > ting lu, meow > donzo, taunt > eq on moon, cm ghost iron val > sd, and replace ceruledge with Kingambit

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 2:20 PM

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quasi prism https://pokepast.es/91f5e5f2fc01f7a9

Replace h zoro with np hydra, tera fire > flying on gambit, physdef tusk > av, tera dragon and modest on pult, and dirge > loom

opaque hamlet Apr 18, 2023, 2:20 PM

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https://pokepast.es/b3ccc3dd5e82314a

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Hey there!

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This is my updated team!

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Did I improve it?

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I am aiming for a Balance team

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 2:23 PM

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I would go sub hex pult > cb, scarf iron Val > dengo, red card amoong > month, and tera fairy > steel and twave > wisp on amoong

quasi prism Apr 18, 2023, 2:45 PM

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ruby crest Replace h zoro with np hydra, tera fire > flying on gambit, physdef tusk > av, t...

tera steel, nasty plot sub dark pulse and flash cannon for hydra? why tera fire on gambit over flying? why modest over timid? wisp hex on dirge?

opaque hamlet Apr 18, 2023, 2:45 PM

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ruby crest I would go sub hex pult > cb, scarf iron Val > dengo, red card amoong > month, a...

Thank you for your suggestions, but

I wanna use banded Pult because I don't wanna sub. I want an immediate speedy wall breaker which can also act as a late game sweeper. He can U-Turn too which is convenient.
Ghold is there for spinblocking and late game cleaning
I actually used amogus but here I got a suggestion to replace it with Moth so, I did that. And actually Moth surpassed my expectations.
Tera Steel is recommended on the site iirc, so I went with that. I might change this.

Wisp might be helpful though! I will change that!

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Oh wait, I did have Wisp on W-Rotom

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Do you think my explanation is suitable for Balance playstyle?

opaque hamlet Apr 18, 2023, 2:52 PM

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quasi prism tera steel, nasty plot sub dark pulse and flash cannon for hydra? why tera fire ...

I personally go with Tera Fire on Kingambit because I use Swords Dance (and you also have on your Kingambit). So, I'd Tera and dance when the opponent uses his Fire type moves on me

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But I don't know how the experts feel

quasi prism Apr 18, 2023, 2:54 PM

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i chose tera flying for tusk since i felt that was way more common but im not super familiar with the meta

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im also not sure if not having fighting moves but ice spinner on tusk is a good idea, and what tera i should use on dirge between tera water and fairy

opaque hamlet Apr 18, 2023, 3:08 PM

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Oh I was talking about Kingambit

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I just use Tera Steel on Tusk

quasi prism Apr 18, 2023, 3:09 PM

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oh i meant kingambit, typo

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actually wait i guess i didn't specify

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 3:17 PM

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quasi prism tera steel, nasty plot sub dark pulse and flash cannon for hydra? why tera fire ...

Ye for hydra, tera fire for things like volc, modest gives you much more breaking power and you don’t miss a lot when it comes to speed outside of scarfers you weren’t gonna be eat, and yes for the dirge

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 3:21 PM

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opaque hamlet Thank you for your suggestions, but 1) I wanna use banded Pult because I don't ...

Thing is hex pult goes a long a way still as a breaker and late game cleaner a lot better at least then cb, dengo sure can act as a spin blocker but still struggled in reliably coming on tusk and there’s no double hazards so it’s not as important fwiw, if you where to keep moth I would go tspikes here but at the same time prefer amoong just to better check stuff like Val and tusk, and fairy on wash is so you can tera on a dragon move like pult draco or baxc glaive rush and twave

opaque hamlet Apr 18, 2023, 3:22 PM

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When can I sub?

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I am so bad at it

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Thanks for the suggestions, I might remove Ghold because as you said, there are no double spikes and rocks

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 3:25 PM

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opaque hamlet When can I sub?

You’ll have opportunity to sub especially against heavily passive stuff like dondonzo, pex, amoong or when you force something out

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If you really feel you desperately need a much more immediate breaker then just go specs Val instead of scarf

quasi prism Apr 18, 2023, 3:26 PM

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ruby crest Ye for hydra, tera fire for things like volc, modest gives you much more breakin...

what tera should i run on dirge? and i was thinking if not having a fighting move on my tusk is a good idea

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 3:26 PM

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It’s fine, and there fairy on dirge

opaque hamlet Apr 18, 2023, 3:26 PM

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ruby crest You’ll have opportunity to sub especially against heavily passive stuff like don...

Gotcha

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I initially used Specs Valiant tho

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He was dope

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Might add that too

quasi prism Apr 18, 2023, 3:27 PM

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ruby crest It’s fine, and there fairy on dirge

i see thank you, and is there an ev spread of tusk since im not sure how much defense i should invest in it

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oh and is boots more valuable on dirge or lefties

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 3:30 PM

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Boots you want those

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 3:30 PM

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quasi prism i see thank you, and is there an ev spread of tusk since im not sure how much de...

Defense is usually max defense it all depends what you wanna creep with speed tbh

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Send an updated version of the team

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 3:32 PM

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sly mauve https://pokepast.es/3408c456fd5a0e58 I too have an av pex team that I wish to ge...

@sly mauve did I ever get back at you here

quasi prism Apr 18, 2023, 3:36 PM

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ruby crest Send an updated version of the team

https://pokepast.es/4eedf5af121a58cd

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pretend the lefties on dirge is boots (i misclicked)

sly mauve Apr 18, 2023, 3:37 PM

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ruby crest <@456226577798135808> did I ever get back at you here

👎

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 3:40 PM

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quasi prism https://pokepast.es/4eedf5af121a58cd

yeah this looks fine evs on tusk at +2 makes u faster then scarf dengo, tho would take evs fromd defense not hp, stealth rock > ice spinner on tusk, surf > tera blast and acid spray > ice beam

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on pex

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 3:40 PM

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sly mauve 👎

resend the team

sly mauve Apr 18, 2023, 3:41 PM

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Da av pecks
https://pokepast.es/3f8bb5f53ab4ed92

quasi prism Apr 18, 2023, 3:42 PM

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what tera should i use for pex then? :O

sly mauve Apr 18, 2023, 3:43 PM

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~~dragon~~

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 3:44 PM

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quasi prism what tera should i use for pex then? :O

fairy

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 3:45 PM

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sly mauve Da av pecks https://pokepast.es/3f8bb5f53ab4ed92

fairy pex > poison, np hydra > corv, cinderace > meow, defensive tusk > bu, specs iron val > scarf, and fire lefties gambit > flying boots

quasi prism Apr 18, 2023, 3:47 PM

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thanks for the helpp smug

sly mauve Apr 18, 2023, 3:49 PM

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ruby crest fairy pex > poison, np hydra > corv, cinderace > meow, defensive tusk > bu, spec...

😦

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Muh corv

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 3:49 PM

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i understand why you would have the corv but corv rn struggles with this meta and everything that corv checks is already covered by pex + tusk + gambit

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 3:49 PM

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quasi prism thanks for the helpp <:smug:1067848677571440682>

no problemo

sly mauve Apr 18, 2023, 3:50 PM

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Plus there are so many situations where my only physical wall (tusk) will get 2hkod by the mon I need to wall

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 3:51 PM

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if thats the case then you got to better preserve tusk

sly mauve Apr 18, 2023, 3:54 PM

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What no reliable recovery does to a "wall" alomotrolla

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https://pokepast.es/895da55d9e5940eb

viral sableBOT Apr 18, 2023, 4:01 PM

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agile lava Apr 18, 2023, 4:02 PM

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looks good but idk if u need valiant here

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scream tail is always a pretty good slot on teams like these

sly mauve Apr 18, 2023, 4:02 PM

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ruby crest fairy pex > poison, np hydra > corv, cinderace > meow, defensive tusk > bu, spec...

^

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 4:02 PM

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sly mauve https://pokepast.es/895da55d9e5940eb

flash cannon > ep on drei

sly mauve Apr 18, 2023, 4:02 PM

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cheempao

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https://pokepast.es/cc11ef9dd08a5a6b

fallow crag Apr 18, 2023, 4:06 PM

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May want max hp wisp ace

daring violet Apr 18, 2023, 4:06 PM

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sly mauve https://pokepast.es/895da55d9e5940eb

team looks good, id lean with Body Press > EQ on Tusk for Ortho wall. Since this team is more balanced / offensive leaning I think you need to have some speed control personally. I would consider Booster Valiant. I would give Gambit 252 Speed / 252 Att (Adamant),

fallow crag Apr 18, 2023, 4:06 PM

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Woah you got every rater to respond lol

sly mauve Apr 18, 2023, 4:06 PM

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cheempao

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Am gemmting overwhelmed

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 4:06 PM

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chatot w for once

sly mauve Apr 18, 2023, 4:06 PM

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Call the 3 of you agree on what's happening to eut

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*can

daring violet Apr 18, 2023, 4:07 PM

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what

sly mauve Apr 18, 2023, 4:07 PM

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Yall are throwing different stuff at me

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Sometimes even for the same mons

daring violet Apr 18, 2023, 4:08 PM

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okay so screen shot this, and try all the different stuff lol

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 4:09 PM

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honestly you cant go wrong with that

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mess around and see which one works better for you

odd depot Apr 18, 2023, 5:15 PM

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https://pokepast.es/bf86c05c29f88cf5 how is this? I built this team in mind to benefit the team altogether and complement eachother.

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Garchomp is to set up hazards, and ghouldengo to avoid removal. Skeledirge is there for its defensive profile and prevent corv from removing hazards, great tusk is there for knock off and hazard removal, greninja and valiant are for offensive power.

ruby crest Apr 18, 2023, 6:15 PM

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odd depot https://pokepast.es/bf86c05c29f88cf5 how is this? I built this team in mind to b...

this look nearly indetical to a current sample tho with a garg > dirge, and pex > gren

digital lava Apr 18, 2023, 6:36 PM

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ty for the advice! i was able to peak 1541

west harbor Apr 18, 2023, 6:40 PM

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nice!

odd depot Apr 18, 2023, 7:24 PM

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ruby crest this look nearly indetical to a current sample tho with a garg > dirge, and pex ...

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

daring violet Apr 18, 2023, 8:11 PM

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odd depot Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

more like a neutral thing

sly mauve Apr 18, 2023, 8:31 PM

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https://pokepast.es/2dc4184461f0dd99 yeah tusk ain't it chief

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Neither is hydreigon

astral crane Apr 18, 2023, 9:16 PM

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FINALLY

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Justice for Cyclizar

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Time to use hyper beam tera

sly mauve Apr 19, 2023, 12:39 AM

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https://pokepast.es/af7fddcae7d74538

I didnt like hydreigon

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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @agile lava, @daring violet, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

sly mauve Apr 19, 2023, 12:40 AM

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He no work

stone onyx Apr 19, 2023, 1:26 AM

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trying out mixed shift gear cyclizar to celebrate it being unbanned, thoughts and changes are appreciated

stone onyx Apr 19, 2023, 2:23 AM

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https://pokepast.es/38fe25b43b37fb77

silk hamlet Apr 19, 2023, 6:30 AM

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https://pokepast.es/865472adae43ea08 havent built ou in a while

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@ruby crest :3

subtle rose Apr 19, 2023, 6:31 AM

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pult mu

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😭

silk hamlet Apr 19, 2023, 6:31 AM

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pult mu is just outplay

subtle rose Apr 19, 2023, 6:31 AM

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they arent all specs

silk hamlet Apr 19, 2023, 6:31 AM

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(ace could prob be tera fire gambit)

subtle rose Apr 19, 2023, 6:32 AM

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yea

silk hamlet Apr 19, 2023, 6:33 AM

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Kingambit @ Leftovers
Ability: Supreme Overlord
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 144 Spe
Adamant Nature

Swords Dance
Iron Head
Kowtow Cleave
Sucker Punch

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i guess this

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over ace

ruby crest Apr 19, 2023, 6:33 AM

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silk hamlet https://pokepast.es/865472adae43ea08 havent built ou in a while

I would say go sub pult > zoro, tera water tusk, spdef fairy washer, and amoong > ace

silk hamlet Apr 19, 2023, 8:16 AM

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ruby crest I would say go sub pult > zoro, tera water tusk, spdef fairy washer, and amoong ...

wtf am i supposed to do against hatt

ruby crest Apr 19, 2023, 3:29 PM

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silk hamlet wtf am i supposed to do against hatt

You’ll be fine against hatt

silk hamlet Apr 19, 2023, 3:36 PM

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ruby crest You’ll be fine against hatt

I laddered and my only losses were when oppo had cm hatt

rough tundra Apr 19, 2023, 3:47 PM

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Shed tail banned?

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Rip orthworm

ruby crest Apr 19, 2023, 3:47 PM

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silk hamlet I laddered and my only losses were when oppo had cm hatt

~~skill issues~~ tho you really won’t see cm hatt higher you go mostly eject button

rough tundra Apr 19, 2023, 4:30 PM

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https://pokepast.es/ce3d6b4de81aa53f

viral sableBOT Apr 19, 2023, 4:30 PM

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rough tundra Apr 19, 2023, 4:31 PM

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rough tundra https://pokepast.es/ce3d6b4de81aa53f

Should I replace orthworm now that shed tail is banned?

ruby crest Apr 19, 2023, 4:31 PM

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If anything start fresh with any team with orthworm

rough tundra Apr 19, 2023, 4:35 PM

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Damn

plain tapir Apr 19, 2023, 5:09 PM

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https://pokepast.es/9e5345d3e3bfc569

ruby crest Apr 19, 2023, 5:34 PM

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plain tapir https://pokepast.es/9e5345d3e3bfc569

Armarouge only really fits towards psyspam, you wanna go them > offensive, spdef washer > physdef, tera fire gambit > dark lefties > black glasses, and scarf Val > meow

west harbor Apr 19, 2023, 5:38 PM

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EVs: 80 HP / 249 Atk / 8 SpD / 171 Spe
also idk what happened here but your evs should be divisible by 4

young chasm Apr 19, 2023, 6:18 PM

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https://pokepast.es/58cbea0e60ce59a7

edgy bluff Apr 19, 2023, 7:54 PM

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rate my team https://pokepast.es/a0e6b7ca49fe92d5

ruby crest Apr 19, 2023, 8:07 PM

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Make this hex pult, wisp bulky volc, physdef great tusk > corv, av pex > king, np hydra > dengo

strange summit Apr 19, 2023, 10:39 PM

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https://pokepast.es/e8262b0182522437.
Tried making a bulky offense team that played off banded bax and specs valiant with corv to slow pivot into both. It's been working pretty well but I'm wondering if I should run ironpress garg instead of rocks, I lose hazard stacking power since I'll have to ditch spikes on clod but I gain a wincon. Wanted some input mainly for garg but will take any suggestions.

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ruby crest Apr 19, 2023, 11:00 PM

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strange summit https://pokepast.es/e8262b0182522437. Tried making a bulky offense team that pla...

I honestly would say go rotom-w > corv, physdef tusk, and curse garg > sr, you still wanting a late game cleaner you can just do like scarf iron Val or booster baxc and ace already give you plenty of breaking power

lilac sun Apr 20, 2023, 3:22 AM

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making a BO team with cyclizar need some help https://pokepast.es/fc8fd24cca0bda7c

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@ruby crest

ruby crest Apr 20, 2023, 3:28 AM

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Honestly cannot tell you how good cyc is rn or what would even be optimal for it’s

lilac sun Apr 20, 2023, 3:28 AM

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what about the rest?

ruby crest Apr 20, 2023, 3:29 AM

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Honestly dozo is random here tbh

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Just go like amoong > dozo, spdef washer, curse garg, sub hex pult > dirge, physdef tusk

slate citrus Apr 20, 2023, 3:51 AM

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https://pokepast.es/63e8289480f23403

Not sure what to do here. Iron Valiant is the main thing that has me stumped. Garganacl and Corviknight feel redundant and I want to replace Garg before Corv if I go that way. I dont know what to do with the fourth attacking slot on Cinderace, because I haven't had too many opportunities to use Sucker Punch where I wasn't completely fucked as is. I think Scarf IV might be preferable to whatever i'm trying now

A lot of this team is trying to eliminate Hatterene so I can get Garchomp out there, then I basically spam Corv U-turn. I try to get in a lot of chip damage through Garg so I can finish with Cinderace or IV. Issue is that my current IV build is not terribly useful after the first Booster Energy and I rarely have an opportunity to use Agility, so I may end up going Scarf or something

0 Speed on Corv is so I can ensure I get the 2nd U-turn if it's a Corv ditto. Biggest weakness in general feels like Special Attackers and setup sweepers, and I have too much pride to run Hatterene

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I tried putting Hydreigon in the IV slot before I threw in IV, and it ran a lot worse. I'm not sure what to put there and I don't want to run Volcarona (mostly because I think Volcarona would be largely redundant with Cinderace)

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one random idea i have now is to run stealthrock/protect on garg instead of ID/BP and then replace Garchomp's SR with like Swords Dance or Rest or something just to mess around, so I can get more out of RS/RH on chomp, but I think that's more fun in theory than practice lol

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resttalk dragon tail/spikes rofl

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(also this team is lacking in speed/special defense and I have kind of a reckless playstyle where I will unnecessarily or arrogantly sacrifice something)

agile lava Apr 20, 2023, 5:31 AM

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@slate citrus plz tag me in the morning

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to remind me to rate this

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im too tired rn

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but i don’t want ur effort wasted

slate citrus Apr 20, 2023, 5:32 AM

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EDIT: am using scarf IV now, need to figure out what to replace agility with

EDIT: knock off

slate citrus Apr 20, 2023, 5:50 AM

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https://pokepast.es/f3d74f1d95554193

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ruby crest Apr 20, 2023, 6:07 AM

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slate citrus https://pokepast.es/f3d74f1d95554193

Go rocks garg > ipress, Bu great tusk > corv, chain chomp > defensive, spdef rotom-w > hzoro, and specs iron val > scarf

steep garden Apr 20, 2023, 2:50 PM

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https://pokepast.es/ebf0a5217a0dce54 rmt bulky offensive

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daring violet Apr 20, 2023, 2:57 PM

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steep garden https://pokepast.es/ebf0a5217a0dce54 rmt bulky offensive

id go 252 speed on gambit instead of 144, so no hp evs just put it in sp.def (4). missing 4 evs on tusk id put in speed. believe it or not opposing garganacls seem to be problematic for this team, i would go substitute skeledirge instead of the set you have currently. team is overall slow (but you have 2 priorities) which fixes the speed problem but you have to rely on it vastly which can be annoying esp for sucker punch. team looks good overall

ruby crest Apr 20, 2023, 3:01 PM

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You can honestly ditch hatt for like valiant to give you more speed control imo

steep garden Apr 20, 2023, 3:02 PM

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i quite like that idea tbh, bulky offensive doesn't mean everything has to be buildt like a tnak XD

dusty dove Apr 20, 2023, 3:50 PM

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https://pokepast.es/0f89bff60077fcd5

Is this good? For singles

ruby crest Apr 20, 2023, 4:35 PM

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dusty dove https://pokepast.es/0f89bff60077fcd5 Is this good? For singles

Go physdef tusk, tera fire gambit, spdef fairy wash, sub hex pult, and amoong > king

slate citrus Apr 20, 2023, 5:15 PM

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slate citrus https://pokepast.es/f3d74f1d95554193

@agile lava

I will replace zoroark with special defensive rotom-wash (t wave volt switch hydro pump and idk protect) and specs up the iron valiant though with the rmt from ting lu. I will update in a moment. But if you can take a look at it when you can that's great.

I need to talk out changes to my team so it's hard for me to take advice as simple as "do this over that" but I will respond as I go. Will be busy but will be responding when I can!

https://pokepast.es/85d8a3871ccdd349

slate citrus Apr 20, 2023, 5:15 PM

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ruby crest Go rocks garg > ipress, Bu great tusk > corv, chain chomp > defensive, spdef r...

For now I'll make the rotom w and IV changes. Rotom w should help with speed control. Sucker punch has actually been great against gholdengo so I may stick to it

dusty dove Apr 20, 2023, 5:32 PM

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ruby crest Go physdef tusk, tera fire gambit, spdef fairy wash, sub hex pult, and amoong > ...

Can you recommend a good bulky offense team?

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For doubles

ruby crest Apr 20, 2023, 5:32 PM

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i dont play doubles and that more of a #comp-general question

dusty dove Apr 20, 2023, 5:49 PM

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ruby crest i dont play doubles and that more of a <#393435165243867150> question

Ok thanks 👍

dusty dove Apr 20, 2023, 5:52 PM

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ruby crest Go physdef tusk, tera fire gambit, spdef fairy wash, sub hex pult, and amoong > ...

Also why amoongus over slowking? With slowking I can get coverage for fighting types

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Unless that’s what fairy rotom is for

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He’s not running terablast tho so that’s probably not it

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Also I assume Tera fire gambit is for volcarona grass sweeps but idk for sure

ruby crest Apr 20, 2023, 5:56 PM

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dusty dove Also why amoongus over slowking? With slowking I can get coverage for fighting t...

Amoonguss is there for better mu against great tusk and iron Val you don’t necessarily need coverage move to hit certain types

dusty dove Apr 20, 2023, 6:00 PM

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Wym? Like some of the others are powerful enough to not need coverage?

ruby crest Apr 20, 2023, 6:05 PM

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It’s more like you don’t necessarily need this type of move cause then I will lose to it when in reality you would want mons to cover or certain mons fwiw

dusty dove Apr 20, 2023, 7:33 PM

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Is it bad I kinda wanna use that team for main story lol

fallow crag Apr 20, 2023, 8:23 PM

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We don't rate in-game teams. If you want to discuss in-game stuff, I'd suggest #legends-no-spoilers

edgy bluff Apr 20, 2023, 8:41 PM

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https://pokepast.es/3257bedebfdf9a55

fallow crag Apr 20, 2023, 8:47 PM

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On a more balanced team like this, you'll get better mileage out of tera fire + fire punch over espeed on dnite

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You want hydro pump and tera water on gren

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I'd go tera fire or fairy on kingambit and lefties over life orb

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Also should run 44 Speed EVs

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Tera fighting makes more sense on tusk to me than steel since it is offensive

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This team gets sorta smoked by meowscarada, so you may want to consider amoonguss > clodsire

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Which would push rocks to tusk

edgy bluff Apr 20, 2023, 8:51 PM

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fallow crag Also should run 44 Speed EVs

what are the speed evs for

dusty dove Apr 20, 2023, 8:52 PM

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fallow crag We don't rate in-game teams. If you want to discuss in-game stuff, I'd suggest <...

My fault

edgy bluff Apr 20, 2023, 8:53 PM

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fallow crag This team gets sorta smoked by meowscarada, so you may want to consider amoongus...

tera type for amoongus?

fallow crag Apr 20, 2023, 8:54 PM

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Water

ruby crest Apr 20, 2023, 8:54 PM

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Water usually amoong is a Mon that you hardly will tera

edgy bluff Apr 20, 2023, 8:54 PM

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yeah assumed so

edgy bluff Apr 20, 2023, 8:54 PM

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fallow crag Water

thanks

fallow crag Apr 20, 2023, 8:54 PM

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44 is for smth I don't remember

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Hat?

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Brain forgets

edgy bluff Apr 20, 2023, 8:55 PM

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i’ll check

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hatterene is slower

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if you invest fully into hatterene it outspeeds gambit

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not sure why you would do that though

ruby crest Apr 20, 2023, 8:57 PM

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44 speed makes you faster then blissey

edgy bluff Apr 20, 2023, 8:57 PM

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oh

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https://pokepast.es/070396fe43cf7f86 alright how about this

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west harbor Apr 20, 2023, 8:59 PM

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you want hydro pump on gren for sure

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water shuriken really isn’t reliable

edgy bluff Apr 20, 2023, 8:59 PM

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i just don’t trust pumps accuracy is all

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it always fails me

agile lava Apr 20, 2023, 8:59 PM

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slate citrus <@194161689527189505> I will replace zoroark with special defensive rotom-wash...

keeping corv here is a must

fallow crag Apr 20, 2023, 9:00 PM

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Ok then use surf

agile lava Apr 20, 2023, 9:00 PM

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cb baxcalibur is a big ass threat

west harbor Apr 20, 2023, 9:00 PM

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use surf

fallow crag Apr 20, 2023, 9:00 PM

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Water shuriken is completely unviable

west harbor Apr 20, 2023, 9:00 PM

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it’s more reliable

edgy bluff Apr 20, 2023, 9:00 PM

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okay

agile lava Apr 20, 2023, 9:00 PM

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ill continue in a sec ill let these guys finish they rate first

edgy bluff Apr 20, 2023, 9:00 PM

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replaced it, how about everything else?

ruby crest Apr 20, 2023, 9:02 PM

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Go eject button/ red card > lefties on amoong

agile lava Apr 20, 2023, 9:16 PM

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slate citrus <@194161689527189505> I will replace zoroark with special defensive rotom-wash...

ok the problem with this teami

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is

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its too weak to force real progress

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chomp / garg / corv / rotom is too much defence

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cinderace is too weak to be a real way of breaking

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valiant is nice but thats the only thing

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theres also no real win condition

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yea u have iron defence garg

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but its slow and people will have a lot of counterplay to it

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so my changes are baxcalibur > garg, great tusk > chomp and a set change to CM valiant

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baxcalibur over garg gives u real breaking power

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tusk over chomp gives u a 2ndary spinner letting bax not have to take rocks all the time

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since defog is pretty unreliable

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and cm valiant gives u a win condition that appreciates the holes bax / cinderace make

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change rotom to calm btw and tera fairy

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and pain split > light screen

twin horizon Apr 20, 2023, 9:29 PM

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https://pokepast.es/03faf09dae0591ec
Hello, this is my team! I’ve gotten to just under top 500 with it, but often hit a wall around the 1600s when playing. To give the team an explanation and breakdown:
First and foremost, we have Iron Valiant. Pretty standard specs set imo, sometimes gets locked into a move on a bad predict but overall a very strong player on the team.
Next we have AV Azu, an absolute staple I’ve used since the beginning of the gen. Struggles a bit against Corv and Dozo, but ice spinner allows it to get heavy damage on unsuspecting clodsire. Just a couple speed EVs to outspeed other Azu, as belly drum is a pain in the ass to deal with, and pairs up quite well against most gholdengo sets
Volcarona is a really fun one, sets up well and tera dark absolutely destroys a lot of dragapult and Skeledirge sets
Great Tusk, always a classic, spec’d to outspeed specs gholdengo and tera grass to potentially smack unsuspecting water types
Dragapult is pretty normal, packing a potent tera water hydro pump that hits garg really well
And last there’s Kingambit, tera flying for the funny great tusk matchup and black glasses for extra damage.
The team definitely has its weaknesses, but I’ve brought it really far, and would love to know what to tweak in order to maximize the effectiveness of it

agile lava Apr 20, 2023, 10:07 PM

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walking wake is kinda annoying

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so is sandy shocks surprisingly

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i’d go spdef rotom > azu

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and make pult sub hex

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tera fairy

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rotom takes a lot of pressure off tusk too

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which should be bulkier

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with eq knock spin stealth rock

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tera fire gambit w lefties is better here too now that rotom is on the team

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volc can get out of hand

thin prairie Apr 20, 2023, 10:45 PM

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https://pokepast.es/e2565edc8d8291c6

slate citrus Apr 20, 2023, 11:28 PM

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agile lava ok the problem with this teami

Thank you, yeah that's the thing I've noticed. My main strat has been to chip down until my guys can finish the job but everything happens so slowly

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I said it in another chat but I'm a gen 3 player that came back on for gen 9

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So there's something about the power differences that has been hard to get used to

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I'll get back to this when I'm back home on Sunday and run through those changes. I've been meaning to try bax for a while, and now might just be the time

vast nexus Apr 20, 2023, 11:50 PM

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https://pokepast.es/cb7c4ce3a80681a1 I feel like this team is missing something but I’m not too sure what it is

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 12:43 AM

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vast nexus https://pokepast.es/cb7c4ce3a80681a1 I feel like this team is missing something ...

Lum > lo on chomp, iron moth > ceruledge, encore > liquid on azu, tera ghost shadow ball > tbolt on Val, eject pack rocks tusk, lead meow > Glimmora

grizzled scarab Apr 21, 2023, 1:39 AM

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https://pokepast.es/a991d87dcef95fa5 ive tried doing a balance team with 2 unaware mons like unsure if i could do like a spdef and physical wall but if not ig i can just change

tame zinc Apr 21, 2023, 3:31 AM

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grizzled scarab https://pokepast.es/a991d87dcef95fa5 ive tried doing a balance team with 2 unawa...

if ur gonna do tera water on clod use lefties

grizzled scarab Apr 21, 2023, 3:31 AM

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oh yea true

tame zinc Apr 21, 2023, 3:31 AM

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and max speed on gambit with tera dark

grizzled scarab Apr 21, 2023, 3:32 AM

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max speed?

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but isnt supposed to be bulky

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i mean what is gonna outspeed with full investment

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ig with webs can work

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 3:33 AM

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grizzled scarab https://pokepast.es/a991d87dcef95fa5 ive tried doing a balance team with 2 unawa...

Don’t really like double unaware especially these two unless it’s really on fatter teams, you most likely wanna keep go water absorb if anything on clod for walking wake,

grizzled scarab Apr 21, 2023, 3:33 AM

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oo

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alr then

tame zinc Apr 21, 2023, 3:34 AM

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grizzled scarab i mean what is gonna outspeed with full investment

some bulky mons that dont use speed investments

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like skeledirge ig

grizzled scarab Apr 21, 2023, 3:35 AM

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cant u just sucker punch at that point

tame zinc Apr 21, 2023, 3:35 AM

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you cant sucker a will o wisp

grizzled scarab Apr 21, 2023, 3:36 AM

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well still i dont htink skele can one shot kingambit

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 3:38 AM

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grizzled scarab https://pokepast.es/a991d87dcef95fa5 ive tried doing a balance team with 2 unawa...

Fwiw I would go like cinderace > ceruledge, bulky dragonite > dengo, water absorb > clod, and go defensive dozo not curse here and bu tusk > physdef

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 3:38 AM

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tame zinc some bulky mons that dont use speed investments

Gambit runs bulk and still runs speed

grizzled scarab Apr 21, 2023, 3:39 AM

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alr then

tame zinc Apr 21, 2023, 3:40 AM

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ruby crest Gambit runs bulk and still runs speed

I guess that's true im just going off of what people have told me before

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people also suggest it a lot so yk

ivory basin Apr 21, 2023, 3:58 AM

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https://pokepast.es/7ebf047148da2745

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ivory basin Apr 21, 2023, 3:59 AM

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i tried doing another team if anyone knows how to make it better

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 4:15 AM

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ivory basin https://pokepast.es/7ebf047148da2745

Go spdef fairy washer > gastro, wisp > HJK on ace, specs h zoro > np, standard gambit set with tera fire, physdef great tusk, and foul play > clear smog on amoong

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You can actually even argue going hex hzoro

ivory basin Apr 21, 2023, 4:17 AM

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is there anyway gastro can work on a team?

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 4:31 AM

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https://pokepast.es/62a05fce33654015

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Is this any good

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First attempt at making a team

real willow Apr 21, 2023, 4:33 AM

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why bronzong?

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 4:34 AM

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real willow why bronzong?

Literally everyone was using lead chomp so this set is there to completely counter it

real willow Apr 21, 2023, 4:35 AM

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eh

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if you trick to a garchomp then you just let them have a scarf chomp

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I'd probably do trick iron ball if you want to do that

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 4:36 AM

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real willow if you trick to a garchomp then you just let them have a scarf chomp

Usually they're locked into stealth rock in which case
Ice spinner hooray

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Also iron valiant gets that sweet OHKO even with scarf

real willow Apr 21, 2023, 4:36 AM

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then why not do a scarf valiant

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that can also lead vs garchomp

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can trick vs other pokes

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and it's a better check to walking wake

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 4:37 AM

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Oh yeah forgot walking wake was a thing

real willow Apr 21, 2023, 4:37 AM

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then you can run something like great tusk or kingambit for more utility or offense, respectively

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 4:37 AM

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Low ladder is something else, I see more flareons than walking wake

real willow Apr 21, 2023, 4:38 AM

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unsurprising

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 4:38 AM

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Who should I replace bronzong with

real willow Apr 21, 2023, 4:38 AM

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my instinct is to go w/ either great tusk or kingambit

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 4:38 AM

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Can they set up rocks

real willow Apr 21, 2023, 4:39 AM

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yep

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if you want to keep bronzong, I'd recommend giving it lagging tail or iron ball to trick vs chomp

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for ur initial team

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 4:40 AM

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Nah not gonna keep da zong

real willow Apr 21, 2023, 4:40 AM

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totally fine

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 4:41 AM

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Great Tusk @ Leftovers
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature

Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Knock Off
Rapid Spin

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?

real willow Apr 21, 2023, 4:43 AM

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yep

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that looks good

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 4:43 AM

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How's the rest of the team?

real willow Apr 21, 2023, 4:44 AM

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I don't particularly see any major flaws off the top of my head

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but some other helper might disagree

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 4:45 AM

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ic ic

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Tyyy

subtle rose Apr 21, 2023, 4:46 AM

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if ur doing tusk > zong imo u need smt that deals w. pult

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so maybe more spdef on wash

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 4:46 AM

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Valiant

subtle rose Apr 21, 2023, 4:47 AM

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not a switchin

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 4:47 AM

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When in doubt pull the valiant out

real willow Apr 21, 2023, 4:47 AM

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was about to mention that sub hydreigon is probably annoying

subtle rose Apr 21, 2023, 4:47 AM

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i think gambit is better here

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then tusk

real willow Apr 21, 2023, 4:47 AM

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that makes sense

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though you'll want a different rocker

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cuz gambit is better when sd'ing than rocking

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 4:56 AM

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I made a whole another team

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https://pokepast.es/1a717fa0144ebb80

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This time with the steel-fairy-dragon core

slate citrus Apr 21, 2023, 4:56 AM

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agile lava baxcalibur over garg gives u real breaking power

So a quick thing:

I'm guessing this bax would be good with max atk/HP divisible by 16/put the rest into special defense right, with assault vest? Something like ice shard, dragon glaive, ice spinner, and something other than eq, tera Fairy

And tusk would be st like knock off, spin, eq, stealth rock with leftovers, max HP/def, tera water

?

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 4:56 AM

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This one is better I think

slate citrus Apr 21, 2023, 4:57 AM

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I said ice spinner but it would essentially be the strongest physical ice move available

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Cuz yeah cinderace isn't a breaker, cinderace is basically a revenge killer that can pivot

thorn eagle Apr 21, 2023, 5:01 AM

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I made this team for gen 9 ou laddering, open to critism https://pokepast.es/8fdf0c235401ed6f

slate citrus Apr 21, 2023, 5:01 AM

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Cuz the other issue I've been seeing is that I can't handle a singular wall on an otherwise bulky team. And I think your suggestions address that. I can handle stall-y teams a lot better than I can handle teams with offense focus

agile lava Apr 21, 2023, 5:03 AM

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slate citrus So a quick thing: I'm guessing this bax would be good with max atk/HP divisible...

what

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where dd u get that bax set from

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did

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lmao

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does it even learn ice spinner

slate citrus Apr 21, 2023, 5:05 AM

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I went off the cuff

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I basically meant "physical ice move"

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And I recently saw a great tusk using ice spinner

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So hence, I threw it on there

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But icicle crash is what I'm thinking of

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Most likely

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Otherwise assault vest or choice band I'm guessing is the way to go with bax

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Choice band for wall breaking actually

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And instead I'd invest the EVs into special defense over HP just for that sweet sweet flamethrower switch in

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Or fire blast or whatever

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I'm just sad I have to get rid of rocky helmet garchomp but it is what it is, maybe for a future team idea

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I just want to be a hipster and avoid great tusk usage, my old wincon was rapid spin bulk up great tusk

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But I'll throw it in and see what happens on Sunday

thorn eagle Apr 21, 2023, 5:11 AM

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I made this team for gen 9 ou laddering, open to critism https://pokepast.es/8fdf0c235401ed6f

slate citrus Apr 21, 2023, 5:16 AM

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Wait bax has 87 base speed????

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Wtf

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I'm jollying that shit up

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Idk why I thought it had tyranitar level speed

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 5:35 AM

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Jolly is cool but adamant gives you more breaking power

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 5:36 AM

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thorn eagle I made this team for gen 9 ou laddering, open to critism https://pokepast.es/8fd...

Eject pack rocks tusk, go dd taunt moon, iron moth > armarouge, lead meow > dozo, cm ghost iron Val > dd hax

agile lava Apr 21, 2023, 7:03 AM

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just run 252 atk 252 speed @slate citrus

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cb

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ada or jolly doesn’t really matter

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 8:34 AM

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normal karma https://pokepast.es/1a717fa0144ebb80

How's this team

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 10:05 AM

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https://pokepast.es/11b409b6a18f0e8d

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normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 10:05 AM

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Made a better one

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Whar

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 11:06 AM

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https://pokepast.es/c6b814b133eda24f

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Cooked a little more

odd depot Apr 21, 2023, 12:22 PM

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thorn eagle I made this team for gen 9 ou laddering, open to critism https://pokepast.es/8fd...

Remove Hax it's niches are helpful but it gets outclassed by other mons maybe use garchomp for stealth rock and spikes support which can chip down other mons.

thorn eagle Apr 21, 2023, 2:05 PM

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k ty

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 3:46 PM

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normal karma https://pokepast.es/c6b814b133eda24f

Next time only edit the poke paste of the first message instead, go tera water tusk, scarf iron Val > booster, tera fire gambit lefties > meow, cinderace > volc, and spdef tera fairy wash

sly mauve Apr 21, 2023, 4:17 PM

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ghost spam i need feedback
https://pokepast.es/ef2a48b664858eea

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normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 4:24 PM

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ruby crest Next time only edit the poke paste of the first message instead, go tera water t...

I didn't know I could do that tbh

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Also I didn't understand what you meant after scarf valiant

surreal bloom Apr 21, 2023, 4:27 PM

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sly mauve ghost spam i need feedback https://pokepast.es/ef2a48b664858eea

is that trippe mid

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Qd>WW volc

sly mauve Apr 21, 2023, 4:39 PM

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judging by my team structure WoW was the best pick

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at least for me

west harbor Apr 21, 2023, 4:39 PM

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quiver dance is the reason volcarona is good

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you can do qd + wisp too, just drop whirlwind

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 4:43 PM

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normal karma Also I didn't understand what you meant after scarf valiant

Go tera fire lefties kingambit > meowscarada, cinderace > Volcarona, and special defensive tera fairy rotom-wash > steel

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 4:51 PM

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sly mauve ghost spam i need feedback https://pokepast.es/ef2a48b664858eea

go bulkier sub pult, sd low kick gambit, specs trick h zoro, red card amoong > volc, tera water great tusk and speed creep after +1 you are faster then non scarf or booster energy tusk, and spdef washer > defensive

sly mauve Apr 21, 2023, 4:51 PM

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ruby crest go bulkier sub pult, sd low kick gambit, specs trick h zoro, red card amoong > v...

how much bulkier

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 4:53 PM

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does the 8 attack on great tusk do anything specifc?

sly mauve Apr 21, 2023, 4:54 PM

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no its just to reach 300

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 4:56 PM

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https://pokepast.es/46c987b704c10a97 the bulk on pult lets you take a plume from torkoal, attack gets the ohko on moon, speed makes you faster then non + nature pults or boosted ones, spa is a dump

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oops gambit is meant to be tera fire

sly mauve Apr 21, 2023, 4:59 PM

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ok ty

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 5:01 PM

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np

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 6:13 PM

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ruby crest Next time only edit the poke paste of the first message instead, go tera water t...

https://pokepast.es/ca390621c27fe987

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This?

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 6:16 PM

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Lefties on washer run 12 speed on it take from spdef, go zen and wisp for last two on ace, and go 136 speed on tusk this lets you be faster then iron Val not boosted or scarf after a spin

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Everything else is fine

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 6:17 PM

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ruby crest Lefties on washer run 12 speed on it take from spdef, go zen and wisp for last t...

What are these words kirbyUH

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 6:20 PM

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Leftovers on washer > focus sash and run 12 speed evs you take them for the special defense evs, zen head hurt and will o wisp for the last two moves on cinderace, run 136 speed evs on great tusk this lets you be faster then iron valiant that are to choice scarf or quark drive boosted after a rapid spin boost

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Does that clear it up?

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 6:21 PM

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Yes tyyy

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 6:23 PM

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ruby crest Leftovers on washer > focus sash and run 12 speed evs you take them for the spec...

https://pokepast.es/2c41e593d62f6ab3

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Did I do it correctly

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 6:24 PM

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blobthumbsup

normal karma Apr 21, 2023, 6:24 PM

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Yippee

fiery sapphire Apr 21, 2023, 8:18 PM

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Can hisuian zoraork be used in balance or BO

ruby crest Apr 21, 2023, 8:42 PM

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Hzoro is mostly used in bo or offensive teams

agile lava Apr 21, 2023, 9:10 PM

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fiery sapphire Can hisuian zoraork be used in balance or BO

not balance

fiery sapphire Apr 21, 2023, 11:36 PM

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Hmmm do i require hazard removal here or is the team fine? https://pokepast.es/6c70ddea4d87bc57

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ruby crest Apr 22, 2023, 12:40 AM

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fiery sapphire Hmmm do i require hazard removal here or is the team fine? https://pokepast.es/6...

Kingambit > Glimmora, eject pack rock great tusk > ting lu, dd loaded dice baxc > rotom-w, tera ghost > diary on iron Val, and lead meow > cb

fiery sapphire Apr 22, 2023, 12:41 AM

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Dairy?

ruby crest Apr 22, 2023, 12:43 AM

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Fairy*

hoary raven Apr 22, 2023, 5:58 AM

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https://pokepast.es/fca84bbe5838d128

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hoary raven Apr 22, 2023, 5:59 AM

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is corv super necessary on the team

agile lava Apr 22, 2023, 5:59 AM

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yea

hoary raven Apr 22, 2023, 5:59 AM

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and also what's a good item for pult

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as i put boots as a filler

agile lava Apr 22, 2023, 5:59 AM

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otherwise dragonite and opposing bax are too big of threats

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specs pult

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is better here

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and booster shocks

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zoroark needs to b replaced but i’m too tired to think

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tag me tmr morning if no one else replies

hoary raven Apr 22, 2023, 6:00 AM

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gotcha

hoary raven Apr 22, 2023, 6:01 AM

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agile lava otherwise dragonite and opposing bax are too big of threats

havent seen them much on ladder, but yeah i can see how deadly they are

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suggestions on checks to them?

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expecting horo to be replaced into that

ruby crest Apr 22, 2023, 6:02 AM

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I would say a gambit and then a rocker > valiant ideally something that helps for opposing gambits

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Insert obligatory great tusk

hoary raven Apr 22, 2023, 6:04 AM

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ruby crest I would say a gambit and then a rocker > valiant ideally something that helps fo...

so essentially gambit and tusk, you say?

ruby crest Apr 22, 2023, 6:06 AM

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Ye

hoary raven Apr 22, 2023, 6:07 AM

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always struggled in choosing whether def or off tusk works more

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switched valiant and horo for dark gambit and off tusk

ruby crest Apr 22, 2023, 6:10 AM

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It should be defensive tusk and tera fire gambit

hoary raven Apr 22, 2023, 6:31 AM

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fire is a new one

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what's fire for?

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dirge?

subtle rose Apr 22, 2023, 6:50 AM

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hoary raven dirge?

and rona

ruby crest Apr 22, 2023, 7:04 AM

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Immune to wisp

sly mauve Apr 22, 2023, 10:46 AM

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https://pokepast.es/012fcf767e261bde

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rmt pls??

sly mauve Apr 22, 2023, 3:30 PM

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AV cyclizar
https://pokepast.es/c19f424bef995000

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surreal bloom Apr 22, 2023, 3:31 PM

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no trippe mid this time 🙏

sly mauve Apr 22, 2023, 3:32 PM

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trippie*

surreal bloom Apr 22, 2023, 3:32 PM

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tripple

sly mauve Apr 22, 2023, 3:32 PM

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tripe

ruby crest Apr 22, 2023, 4:47 PM

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sly mauve https://pokepast.es/012fcf767e261bde

go adamant baxc, tera fire kingambit with lefties > garg, spdef fairy washer, tera water tusk and run 136 speed, scarf iron val > booster, red card amoong and foul play > clear smog

icy cairn Apr 22, 2023, 5:01 PM

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https://pokepast.es/d37563d2e79d5235

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trick room

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very new to teambuilding so criticism is welcome

icy cairn Apr 22, 2023, 5:08 PM

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icy cairn https://pokepast.es/d37563d2e79d5235

dont mind the 20 spa evs on scizor, was an accident

ruby crest Apr 22, 2023, 5:32 PM

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icy cairn https://pokepast.es/d37563d2e79d5235

yeah some of these mons here you wouldnt hardly use in tr namely the donzo and scizor, you could do another tr setter like rabsca > in place of donzo and then encore bd azu > scizor with no speed, choice band iron hands > sd eject button on hatt > lefties

icy cairn Apr 22, 2023, 6:13 PM

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ight

icy cairn Apr 22, 2023, 6:17 PM

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ruby crest yeah some of these mons here you wouldnt hardly use in tr namely the donzo and s...

https://pokepast.es/99304dfae452a3e4 this better?

ruby crest Apr 22, 2023, 6:19 PM

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replace nuzzle on hatt you dont want lower the speed of your opponents

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everything seems fine i suppose this as best you can do with tr cause rn tr is not that good in ou

icy cairn Apr 22, 2023, 6:29 PM

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ruby crest replace nuzzle on hatt you dont want lower the speed of your opponents

ah right

icy cairn Apr 22, 2023, 6:29 PM

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ruby crest everything seems fine i suppose this as best you can do with tr cause rn tr is n...

oh

proven hare Apr 22, 2023, 7:08 PM

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https://pokepast.es/29d9d9320cc35d96

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@daring violet

daring violet Apr 22, 2023, 7:14 PM

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Team looks good to be honest I like choice band valiant a lot I’d go spirit break over zen headbutt, I would also go booster energy on sandy shocks for the speed boost on, setting up entry and outspeeding majority of things as a potential lead

proven hare Apr 22, 2023, 7:14 PM

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Yeah CB Valiant is extremely underrated

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It's arguably the best knock off user

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Stuff that check Special Valiant like Dirge, Ace, Gholdengo

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Hate a knock off

daring violet Apr 22, 2023, 7:15 PM

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proven hare https://pokepast.es/29d9d9320cc35d96

I’d give tusk some more speed evs to outsped other tusks and potentially give it knock off as well over eq or body press but this is not a hard suggestion

proven hare Apr 22, 2023, 7:15 PM

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To an extent this works for Clod too

proven hare Apr 22, 2023, 7:16 PM

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daring violet Team looks good to be honest I like choice band valiant a lot I’d go spirit brea...

Zen is the only move that 2HKOes Pex and Amoong without Tera

daring violet Apr 22, 2023, 7:16 PM

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Yeah exactly and maybe for gambit throw more speed but aside from that team looks really good in this meta

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Okay keep zen

proven hare Apr 22, 2023, 7:17 PM

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daring violet I’d give tusk some more speed evs to outsped other tusks and potentially give it...

I had Knock, but I thought Valiant does that well already

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So Body Press provides me a way to beat Booster Moon, Hydreigon

daring violet Apr 22, 2023, 7:17 PM

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Yup if you can ration keeping valiant as long as possible I wouldn’t recommend it

proven hare Apr 22, 2023, 7:17 PM

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I could go Ice Spinner too

daring violet Apr 22, 2023, 7:17 PM

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I don’t mind double knocks tho

proven hare Apr 22, 2023, 7:18 PM

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Nah

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Spinner loses hard to Rotom-W

daring violet Apr 22, 2023, 7:18 PM

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Yeah keep as is

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Dragonite does not seem super problematic

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Esp with bulk up

proven hare Apr 22, 2023, 7:18 PM

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I would have loved to have Spikes here too somewhere

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But never mind

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Bulk Up on tusk saves me vs opposite grounds

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Except Chain Chomp

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But Slowking does well vs it

daring violet Apr 22, 2023, 7:20 PM

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Yup I would say give tusk enough evs to outsped chomp after 1 spin

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So it should reach 224 speed

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If chain chomp is annoying

fiery sapphire Apr 23, 2023, 12:37 AM

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https://pokepast.es/b0c4929e7f81522b how is this?

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fiery sapphire Apr 23, 2023, 12:38 AM

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Its very fat with dragapult as our wall breaker and kingambit lum berry for a strong set up sweeper.

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Garg and king are great for late game

dry edge Apr 23, 2023, 12:53 AM

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fiery sapphire https://pokepast.es/b0c4929e7f81522b how is this?

Eject Hatt doesn't fit particularly well here. Leftovers should be fine for more longevity. Speed EVs to outspeed Pex are also nice, iirc you need 52

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This looks very weak to opposing hazards though. Hatt can't handle all the pressure

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Smth like Court Change for example would also be very troublesome

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Maybe Corvi > Rotom-W. Corvi also gives you a Fairy resist

fiery sapphire Apr 23, 2023, 12:54 AM

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Wouldnt Walking wake be a threat then or is d pult fine for it

dry edge Apr 23, 2023, 12:55 AM

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You can try Tera Water Garg

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That should help a bit

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Between it and Corvi + Hatt would be enough

fiery sapphire Apr 23, 2023, 12:56 AM

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Alright anything else that might be a threat?

dry edge Apr 23, 2023, 12:56 AM

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Looks like a fine start

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Smth else could be Tusk > Ting Lu and that way you can keep the Rotom-W

sly mauve Apr 23, 2023, 12:57 AM

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ruby crest go adamant baxc, tera fire kingambit with lefties > garg, spdef fairy washer, te...

could u explain why those changes should be made?

dry edge Apr 23, 2023, 12:57 AM

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Either way you really need to support Hatt here

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It alone wont be able to handle hazards

fiery sapphire Apr 23, 2023, 12:57 AM

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Hmmm boots corv?

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Also doesn't support hatt run nuzzle and healing wish

dry edge Apr 23, 2023, 12:59 AM

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I meant something to hel Hatterene handle hazards (Corvi or Tusk)

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not "support hatterene" as a set

dry edge Apr 23, 2023, 1:00 AM

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fiery sapphire Hmmm boots corv?

Leftovers or Helmet is fine, you dont particularly need bots

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 1:00 AM

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I was thinking fit in tusk and making rotom-w spdef cause your walking wake answer is let it kill soemthing and revenge with pult

dry edge Apr 23, 2023, 1:00 AM

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Also Tera Water on Hatt is overall a better defensive typing compared to Steel. But you can try both and see how they work

fiery sapphire Apr 23, 2023, 1:04 AM

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Hmmm rocky help body press tusk?

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Helm*

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Or would lefties be better for longevity

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 1:07 AM

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sly mauve could u explain why those changes should be made?

Adamant on baxc gives you more breaking power, Kingambit is another while still maintaining that ghost resist and able to punish problematic threats with suckers, spdef on rotom-w to scout moves and take hit from pults, walking wake, tho with tera fairy lets you punish dragon moves and able twave back, tera water is a great defensive typing for great tusk and the speed investment helps pressure non boosted iron valiant, I enjoy scarf more here but booster also works tho if you run booster it would be mixed attacker or even dbond, red card is good for amoong take a hit and force to spore something that doesn’t want to get spores and foul play is to not be complete deadweight against and hitting back against set up mons like dnite

sly mauve Apr 23, 2023, 1:14 AM

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ruby crest Adamant on baxc gives you more breaking power, Kingambit is another while still ...

im thinking about changing valiant -> booster moth is that ok?

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 1:15 AM

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Valiant is a lot better tbh and has some useful tools that can be beneficial for this team like trick and knock tho it depends which set you go scarf or booster

sly mauve Apr 23, 2023, 1:16 AM

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scarf val

fiery sapphire Apr 23, 2023, 1:16 AM

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https://pokepast.es/694c2b9a51eb8149 there

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 1:17 AM

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Then yeah trick is really great cause you can screw over fatter teams like tricking an almomola and make it easier for baxc and gambit be much more threatening

sly mauve Apr 23, 2023, 1:19 AM

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ok, tsym

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oh, btw scarf val use moonblast, knock , trick and what?

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i have never used that set before

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 1:22 AM

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Hmm here I believe you would would do moonblast focus blast tbolt trick

sly mauve Apr 23, 2023, 1:26 AM

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thx

slate citrus Apr 23, 2023, 3:53 AM

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agile lava what

I'll post the updated team on Sunday. I played bax and tusk, I actually feel like I should replace corviknight with the same rocky helmet chomp and change tusk to a second wincon (bulk up rapid spin cc eq), my only real issue is that cm valiant doesn't feel fast enough so I might just change him back to scarf

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Also rotom wash doesn't get pain split

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I kept light screen instead

agile lava Apr 23, 2023, 3:53 AM

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i meant

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protect

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light screen is horrible

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cm valiant uses booster energy

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to get the speed boost

slate citrus Apr 23, 2023, 3:54 AM

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Gotcha

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LS sucks bc it's just 3 turns of protection right

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Essentially

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Or ig 4

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I think I'll play around more later then, protect ig fills up a dead turn

icy cairn Apr 23, 2023, 4:15 AM

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https://pokepast.es/564881d8752c30d3

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this team any good?

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 5:14 AM

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icy cairn https://pokepast.es/564881d8752c30d3

Go Lead meow > Glimmora, np ghodlengo > scarf, tera ghost shadow > tbolt on iron Val, encore bd azu > donzo, and eject back rocks tusk > clod

icy cairn Apr 23, 2023, 5:17 AM

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okay

cobalt sluice Apr 23, 2023, 5:55 AM

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icy cairn Apr 23, 2023, 6:32 AM

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ruby crest Go Lead meow > Glimmora, np ghodlengo > scarf, tera ghost shadow > tbolt on iron...

what evs should i put on azu

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hp and atk?

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or hp and def/spd

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 6:33 AM

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Just use the standard one in smogon

icy cairn Apr 23, 2023, 6:33 AM

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ight

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 6:49 AM

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cobalt sluice

Lead meow > Glimmora, eject pack rock tusk > peli, cm ghost iron Val > wake, tera steel on dengo, encore > liquidation on azu, lum berry > glasses on gambit

exotic kite Apr 23, 2023, 11:21 AM

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https://pokepast.es/d7abd8dc4f5ab8a8 (Iron hands bulky offense)

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proven hare Apr 23, 2023, 5:44 PM

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https://pokepast.es/f44867ec078e92f2

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versed gazelle Apr 23, 2023, 5:55 PM

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https://pokepast.es/41b3bd7e9d1977fd

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 5:55 PM

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proven hare https://pokepast.es/f44867ec078e92f2

You lowkey want amoong > pult just cause iron Val are gonna be annoying, lefties on gambit here, you could also do some speed on tusk here

proven hare Apr 23, 2023, 5:56 PM

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ruby crest You lowkey want amoong > pult just cause iron Val are gonna be annoying, lefties...

How about Dirge?

versed gazelle Apr 23, 2023, 5:56 PM

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versed gazelle https://pokepast.es/41b3bd7e9d1977fd

For my team I'm attached to Ceruledge and Valiant. Anything else could change. I think the team is very strong but I'd love to tighten it up

proven hare Apr 23, 2023, 5:56 PM

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Amoongus is passive

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 5:57 PM

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That could work as well sub dirge

surreal bloom Apr 23, 2023, 5:57 PM

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dengo could fit here nah?

proven hare Apr 23, 2023, 5:59 PM

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I find Dengo mid honestly

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Especially when ChainChomp takes care of hazard removers/blockers

versed gazelle Apr 23, 2023, 5:59 PM

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Dengo is a bit overrated but he's great for hyper offense and good on bulk offense

proven hare Apr 23, 2023, 6:00 PM

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It's fine

surreal bloom Apr 23, 2023, 6:00 PM

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dirge on ho?

proven hare Apr 23, 2023, 6:00 PM

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But I feel that it neither is strong enough, nor bulky enough, nor fast enough

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Scarf is the only set I like, but again not on every team

proven hare Apr 23, 2023, 6:02 PM

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surreal bloom dirge on ho?

It's not HO, but offense

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Sub Dirge is nice on Offense

minor timber Apr 23, 2023, 6:13 PM

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https://pokepast.es/f6e4d978335647e8

fiery sapphire Apr 23, 2023, 6:14 PM

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proven hare Sub Dirge is nice on Offense

Sub dirge is nice on everything except like stall

minor timber Apr 23, 2023, 6:14 PM

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could i ping someone?

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 6:30 PM

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minor timber https://pokepast.es/f6e4d978335647e8

Go wisp volc, spdef twave fairy washer, hex pult > chomp, physdef great tusk > clod, and gambit > pex

minor timber Apr 23, 2023, 6:31 PM

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i dont understand any of that

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im new

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 6:32 PM

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Okie go bulky willo wisp Volcarona, special defensive tera fairy rotom-w, hex Dragapult replaces garchomp, physical defensive great tusk replaces closer, and Kingambit replaces pex

minor timber Apr 23, 2023, 6:33 PM

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can dragapult act as a cushion when volcarona dies?

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 6:33 PM

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Define cushion

minor timber Apr 23, 2023, 6:33 PM

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secondary attacker

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i put choice scarf on garchomp since the enemy would expect garchomp to set up first

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and they'd be completely wrong

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 6:35 PM

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Well yeah

minor timber Apr 23, 2023, 6:35 PM

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how do i turn volcarona bulky?

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also do i just replace giga drain for willo wisp? that would delete water, ground and rock coverage

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sorry if im asking too much questions

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 6:36 PM

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One important to know you don’t necessarily need a lot of coverage moves to beat certain types

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 6:36 PM

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minor timber also do i just replace giga drain for willo wisp? that would delete water, groun...

Use the set in smogon website

minor timber Apr 23, 2023, 6:36 PM

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ruby crest One important to know you don’t necessarily need a lot of coverage moves to beat...

so what do i do if the types i mentioned comes up?

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 6:37 PM

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You have ways to handle those with the other team

minor timber Apr 23, 2023, 6:39 PM

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is the special defensive rotom wash set also on smogon?

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 6:39 PM

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It’s just max special defense

minor timber Apr 23, 2023, 6:40 PM

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ohhh

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i found phys defensive greattusk on smogon but im indecisive over rocky helm or leftovers

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do i go booster energy?

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 6:47 PM

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Leftovers

minor timber Apr 23, 2023, 6:50 PM

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ohh i get it

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kingambit as revenge killer gives way for hex dragapult right?

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 6:57 PM

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Ye

ruby crest Apr 23, 2023, 7:35 PM

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versed gazelle https://pokepast.es/41b3bd7e9d1977fd

Go cm ghost iron Val, Kingambit > cinderace, eject pack rock great tusk > treads, and fix the set for lead meow it should be leaf storm instead

frank oyster Apr 23, 2023, 7:58 PM

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hey can someone help me improve my sv ou team

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https://pokepast.es/dd2e9b32a8d2e6ca

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the only pokemon I'm like not willing to remove is zororak, cuz I love them.

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ofc if there is a way to optimize it I would love that

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the rest can be swap'd out if need be

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I havent played much of gen 9 ou but I played a bit of gen 8

proven hare Apr 23, 2023, 8:17 PM

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ruby crest That could work as well sub dirge

Bro, I am just using Moth over Chomp. It helps vs Valiant as well, while retains my team as a H Stack (T Spikes over Spikes now)

stoic parrot Apr 23, 2023, 11:52 PM

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This is my offense team I've used for a while,

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https://pokepast.es/82addf57f075785b

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stoic parrot Apr 23, 2023, 11:57 PM

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stoic parrot https://pokepast.es/82addf57f075785b

I wanted to know if there are any adjustments I should make. I've tested it quite a bit, and this is what I have so far

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 12:01 AM

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stoic parrot https://pokepast.es/82addf57f075785b

Lead meow > corv , sd loaded dice Breeloom > banded, screens pult, cm ghost iron Val > gholdengo, and Volcarona > Glimmora

stoic parrot Apr 24, 2023, 12:02 AM

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ruby crest Lead meow > corv , sd loaded dice Breeloom > banded, screens pult, cm ghost iron...

Thank you

frank oyster Apr 24, 2023, 1:20 AM

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frank oyster https://pokepast.es/dd2e9b32a8d2e6ca

@ruby crest

main mauve Apr 24, 2023, 1:45 AM

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https://pokepast.es/4bbf04070239dd13

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 1:48 AM

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frank oyster https://pokepast.es/dd2e9b32a8d2e6ca

If the focus is around zoro I think you are better off reworking the team cause zoro generally is not that good in balance

frank oyster Apr 24, 2023, 1:50 AM

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I was thinking so as well

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how would I build a faster offensive team in sv?

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 1:52 AM

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This channel is more for rating teams so redirect yourself to #comp-general, also the team structure and what mons you want depend on what zoro set you wanan use

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 1:52 AM

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main mauve https://pokepast.es/4bbf04070239dd13

You need speed control here tbh

frank oyster Apr 24, 2023, 1:52 AM

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ruby crest This channel is more for rating teams so redirect yourself to <#3934351652438671...

hmm alright, ill think about this more deeply theen

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thxx

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 1:53 AM

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main mauve https://pokepast.es/4bbf04070239dd13

I would say sub hex pult > dirge

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Go tera water on Great tusk and run 136 speed evs to outspeed non boosted iron valiant with a rapid spin, and adamant on baxcalibur

main mauve Apr 24, 2023, 1:54 AM

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ruby crest I would say sub hex pult > dirge

alr

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 1:54 AM

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Actually don’t

main mauve Apr 24, 2023, 1:54 AM

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yeah i wasnt sure on dirge

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 1:54 AM

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Go iron Val instead

main mauve Apr 24, 2023, 1:55 AM

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over dirge?

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 1:55 AM

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Ye

main mauve Apr 24, 2023, 1:55 AM

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hm

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specs or booster

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 1:55 AM

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You can do booster mix or scarf

main mauve Apr 24, 2023, 1:55 AM

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Iron Valiant @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature

Moonblast
Close Combat
Knock Off
Trick

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this?

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 1:55 AM

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I like scarf tho cause you can screw over fatter teams with trick

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 1:55 AM

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main mauve Iron Valiant @ Choice Scarf Ability: Quark Drive Tera Type: Fairy EVs: 4 A...

I would prefer specially oriented

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Do like focus blast/ aura sphere > cc mess around with both and use whichever you are more comfortable tbolt > knock tho you can also mess around with dbond as well!

main mauve Apr 24, 2023, 1:56 AM

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dbond sounds cool

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https://pokepast.es/f5aaa140ec2537af

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didnt fix valiant spread

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 1:59 AM

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Tho if we going iron Val I would suggest cinderace > bulky volc everything else should be fine or you can mess with both

main mauve Apr 24, 2023, 1:59 AM

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hmm

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alright

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 1:59 AM

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Everything else is fine

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Very solid build blobthumbsup

main mauve Apr 24, 2023, 2:08 AM

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great

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i havent built in like a month for ou so

lofty quest Apr 24, 2023, 12:04 PM

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https://pokepast.es/78201907392856f9

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lofty quest Apr 24, 2023, 12:05 PM

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don't know what I could change to make it better, also if you find the spreads a bit confusing it is because idk how to make the most optimal of it

edgy bluff Apr 24, 2023, 1:59 PM

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https://pokepast.es/99c8bb751f13fbb7

graceful pivot Apr 24, 2023, 2:43 PM

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https://pokepast.es/214ae579b28ef98d

thin prairie Apr 24, 2023, 2:56 PM

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https://pokepast.es/e2565edc8d8291c6

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 4:06 PM

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thin prairie https://pokepast.es/e2565edc8d8291c6

i believe you been posting this team for a while fwiw It needs a massive rework overhaul specs iron val > grimmsnarl, kingambit > walking wake, just run lvl 100 on corv, go tera bug on ceruledge, sludge bomb > synthesis and foul play > clear smog run covert cloak on amoong

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 4:17 PM

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graceful pivot https://pokepast.es/214ae579b28ef98d

specs iron val > scarf, sub dirge > bulky, spikes chain chomp > clod, scarf rotom-w > corv, flying sd kingambit > black glasses dark, and physdef tusk with speed for iron val

graceful pivot Apr 24, 2023, 4:20 PM

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ruby crest specs iron val > scarf, sub dirge > bulky, spikes chain chomp > clod, scarf roto...

Does tusk outspeed iron valiant then?

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Or you mean after rapid spin

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 4:20 PM

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after a spin ye

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 4:41 PM

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edgy bluff https://pokepast.es/99c8bb751f13fbb7

go for tera dragon phantom force dd pult, lead meow > cb, np air balloon dengo > scarf, tera fire kingambit > corv, iron moth > dirge, and eject pack sr tusk

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 4:51 PM

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lofty quest https://pokepast.es/78201907392856f9

specs iron val > sylv, physdef great tusk > treads with enough speed to outspeed scarf dengo after a speed boost, tera steel on rotom-w and twave > wisp, kingambit > roaring moon, eject button > helm on amoong and sludge bomb > clear smog, and sub dirge for last

proven hare Apr 24, 2023, 8:17 PM

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https://pokepast.es/69dcec84cc959ab6

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ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 8:18 PM

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Is loom just there to revenge kill gambit?

proven hare Apr 24, 2023, 8:19 PM

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Yeah, also Spore seems nice

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Actually

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My team's removal was so good

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So a Sash mon made sense in the last slot

proven hare Apr 24, 2023, 8:19 PM

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proven hare My team's removal was so good

I experimented with SD Zoro and something else I can't remember

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Breloom worked really well

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 8:20 PM

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Cause was going to say lead meow doesn’t look bad either but yeah this looks fine

proven hare Apr 24, 2023, 8:21 PM

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Nah

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I have enough Hazards

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Courtesy of Glimmora

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Spore gives set up opportunities

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I could go Gambit over Moon

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 8:22 PM

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Gambit is dope ye

proven hare Apr 24, 2023, 8:22 PM

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What do you think is better here?

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 8:25 PM

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Gambit here also idk if you really need tera blast you already smack around amoong and dengo especially cause other mons here want to tera most of the time

proven hare Apr 24, 2023, 8:27 PM

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Eh

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Smacking Amoong and Dengo actually opens up the game for Valiant

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Especially Amoong

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Dengo is w.e.

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It loses to Valiant regardless after its hit by Bullet Seed

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Could I maybe do Aerial Ace just for Amoong

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?

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What was your thought on replacing Tera Blast with?

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 8:32 PM

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You could do rock tomb, sd you can honestly mess around with the last slot cause I would do lum berry gambit here just to screw over amoong even more cause those two you already hellla pressure with hazards, and the rest of the team which allows for Val or others to tera more when they want

proven hare Apr 24, 2023, 8:35 PM

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Offensive or Bulky Gambit?

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 8:36 PM

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I would say mess with both cause both have there merits liek if pult isn’t that problematic then just offensive but if you need more liability bulky

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 9:51 PM

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This channel is for teams wanting to be rated that’s a #comp-general question

thin prairie Apr 24, 2023, 10:09 PM

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@ruby crest is this fine now https://pokepast.es/483142dd51cc58d3

ruby crest Apr 24, 2023, 10:10 PM

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Better

glossy jackal Apr 25, 2023, 1:00 AM

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https://pokepast.es/685b1de61d0d3acf rate

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 1:13 AM

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glossy jackal https://pokepast.es/685b1de61d0d3acf rate

Eject pack rocks tusk > Glimmora, lead meow > cb, np h zoro > pult, cm ghost iron Val > roaring moong, and tera fire > flying in gambit

glossy jackal Apr 25, 2023, 1:19 AM

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I kinda want to use band meow for the 4 different stab types it can use
I feel like I want to use glimmora for hazard stacking over tusk
Yeah I was thinking H zoroark so I'll probably use that
val wouldn't be bad but I want EQ coverage which I would get with using tusk but like I said I want to hazard stack
also I don't get why people even run tera fire gambit so could you explain it (and also explain why I should make those team edits with what I said)

graceful pivot Apr 25, 2023, 1:22 AM

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ruby crest after a spin ye

Also what's my Waking Wake check then

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 1:28 AM

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glossy jackal I kinda want to use band meow for the 4 different stab types it can use I feel l...

4 stab types would hardly come to play especially if you mess up and lock into the wrong move and is better off as a suicide lead for ho, with lead meow it does Glimmora job slightly better with taunt and knock and removing great tusk smoother which allows you to run a rock setter that can stand longer when you want to remove hazards cause it will be hazard stack still you have spikes meow and rocks on great tusk

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Tera fire on gambit is to prevent burns and such this let’s you be a decent check against volc and soft check sun teams

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 1:29 AM

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graceful pivot Also what's my Waking Wake check then

Resend the updated team

glossy jackal Apr 25, 2023, 1:30 AM

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ruby crest 4 stab types would hardly come to play especially if you mess up and lock into t...

ok then I need another banded wallbreaker to replace meow

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also I get the burns thing but I dont think I wanna stay in on volc with gambit anyways lol like I think flying checks more relevant things

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I barely even run into volc ever

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but tusk or things that want to use earthquake is MOST games so it feels more neccesary

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might be wrong tho

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but yeah I will do lead meow over glim

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 1:33 AM

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glossy jackal ok then I need another banded wallbreaker to replace meow

You really don’t

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Spikes opens up a lot of holes for the opposing and with your leaders having knock can remove any potential hdb users to make more progress

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This then opens up for ur mons to force switches and get free opportunities to set up or straight up weaken something for another teammate

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 1:34 AM

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glossy jackal also I get the burns thing but I dont think I wanna stay in on volc with gambit ...

Fire is better here

graceful pivot Apr 25, 2023, 1:34 AM

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ruby crest Resend the updated team

https://pokepast.es/7bb93e0ea38cb03b

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 1:35 AM

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graceful pivot https://pokepast.es/7bb93e0ea38cb03b

I guess this is one of those cases you have to cope with specs iron Val as your speed control and go spdef washer instead

graceful pivot Apr 25, 2023, 1:35 AM

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Can Iron Valiant be booster energy

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 1:36 AM

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It can here yeah

dry edge Apr 25, 2023, 1:52 AM

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graceful pivot https://pokepast.es/7bb93e0ea38cb03b

Not sure if this was talked about already but Naive on Chomp is usually worth these days

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Outspeeding Hydra is big

glossy jackal Apr 25, 2023, 1:53 AM

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@ruby crest what makes you suggest zoroark over pult?

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 1:54 AM

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synergizes well with hazard stack and can force mind games to the opponent on what its disguised

glossy jackal Apr 25, 2023, 1:55 AM

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yeah I guess this team is weak to fighting so if I disguise it as gambit or something it could get me 1 cheese kill

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but then what if they use their own gambit and sucker

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or any pokemon that learns sucker

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I see zoroark as more of a revenge killer because I think it can only get like 1 corny kill and then it dies to anything

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or I at least don't think that sash set is good

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specs and scarf look good

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scarf to outspeed everything and kill with like stab hyper voice or shadow ball or whatever works and specs tera normal hyper voice to oneshot a lot of the meta

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I remember use glimmora and zoroark to bait tusk in but then hyper voice just kills it

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though lead meow can do that without burning resources

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but what I'm saying is that I think plot zoroark is just cheese that doesn't get me as much as pult would

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actually doing good against most of the meta and the speed>1 cheesy kill and then dying to val or anything with a scarf or gambit etc

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 2:33 AM

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fwiw zoro is much more consistent and beneficial then pult here especially how choice mons arent particularly ideal in ho especially when you have priority with gambit and speed control with val and meow, h zoro offers a lot more and not just cheese

glossy jackal Apr 25, 2023, 2:35 AM

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that makes sense but what does 350 speed even outspeed thats important

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thats what I'm worried about

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zoroark can't even take 1 hit and the only reason it can take 1 is because of sash

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not that pult is bulky but at least it lives resists and can take a few hits

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zoroark gets the plot off and kills one thing then it doesn't matter if I'm choice locked or not because val or meow STILL outspeed and I still die

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at least if I draco something with pult and val comes in I can switch out and I dont just die to rocks or something

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and if I force it to switch out and val comes back I win the 1v1 assuming the val is chipped a little or tera ghost

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 2:41 AM

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fwiw your not using hzoro for the speed you already got speed covered with val and meow, a lot of mons in ho aren't even meant to take a hit cause opening up something for your teammates to take advantage and doing a draco means you are forced to switch which just means a lot of your mons are going to take heavy load or just removed especially when you want something for late

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im not going to continue cause im trying to make ur team better since you are asking for a rate, but you are clearly just ignoring that advice atp, so move on if you dont plan to change anything

glossy jackal Apr 25, 2023, 2:43 AM

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nah its not that I dont plan on changing it I just dont understand the changes so I want them to be explained

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changes dont matter if I dont even know why I changed it

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so I just want to understand why I do this or that

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I'll try both of those teams now that I understand because I really think both can work but like I was just wondering

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the eject pack tusk/lead meow and the one as is

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 2:45 AM

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i already explained h zoro gives you a nice breaker that can mess around with the opponent due to illusion and is a great way in making progress against opponents due to it and benefits from hazard, its a lot better then a pult who is choice locked making ur team vulnerable instead of making consistent progress

glossy jackal Apr 25, 2023, 2:46 AM

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that makes a lot of sense thinking about progress

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I think I just misinterpreted thinking what HO is

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do you think the original team works well as a pivoting type of thing then or should it just be replaced with your changes

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but like I said I'll still try both I'm just curious

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 2:48 AM

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glossy jackal do you think the original team works well as a pivoting type of thing then or sh...

im confused what you are aksing here pivoting ?

glossy jackal Apr 25, 2023, 3:03 AM

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Pult and meow pivoting often with u turn and being able to switch in strong threats which threatens a lot of damage

subtle rose Apr 25, 2023, 3:04 AM

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hyper offense doesnt need that

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thats the mark of a more balanced / bulky offense team

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goal is just to spam setup and hit things until u win

glossy jackal Apr 25, 2023, 3:07 AM

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Damn HO more monkey brained than I thought then

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I thought balance was using kinda passive Pokemon like dozo corv rotom

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So I was never interested in that

subtle rose Apr 25, 2023, 3:13 AM

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none of the pokemon u mentioned are passive

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balance is abt having a defensive core and an offensive core to have switchins to most pokemon generally and be able to strike back offensively

glossy jackal Apr 25, 2023, 3:20 AM

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subtle rose none of the pokemon u mentioned are passive

Well they're too slow paced for what I usually like to run I guess

subtle rose Apr 25, 2023, 3:20 AM

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completely diff from being passive

glossy jackal Apr 25, 2023, 3:20 AM

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Then what kind of team do I even have rn

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The original one

subtle rose Apr 25, 2023, 3:20 AM

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a bad one

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u had ugly mix of balance and hyper offense

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wont end well

glossy jackal Apr 25, 2023, 3:22 AM

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Then yeah it looks like I need to learn how HO really works

subtle rose Apr 25, 2023, 3:22 AM

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the problem with having many choice mons on ho is that u dont have the defensive counterplay to not lose as soon as booster valiant clicks cm once

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as ho ur goal is not to react after that has happened ur goal is to win before that can happen

weary crypt Apr 25, 2023, 3:23 AM

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https://pokepast.es/7b009b0a8fc95c33 my genius tech team

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fallow crag Apr 25, 2023, 3:23 AM

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just goin off it being a webs team, i dont think this glimmora set is the one

glossy jackal Apr 25, 2023, 3:24 AM

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subtle rose as ho ur goal is not to react after that has happened ur goal is to win before t...

I'll keep this in mind

fallow crag Apr 25, 2023, 3:24 AM

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nor is defensive gholdengo

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you would want as much offensive potential as possible with a team like this

subtle rose Apr 25, 2023, 3:24 AM

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get the spidops off my screen sad_dawn

fallow crag Apr 25, 2023, 3:24 AM

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nasty plot gholdengo, maybe iron hands even

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booster iron moth

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webs are bad

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but if you had to make them work

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that's probably how

proven hare Apr 25, 2023, 3:25 AM

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Spidops is shit

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Use Masquerain

weary crypt Apr 25, 2023, 3:25 AM

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ok what should i put instead of webs spidops then

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or webs in genreael

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point of the team is just to spread twave and be annoying as fuck

subtle rose Apr 25, 2023, 3:25 AM

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thats a diff style of team

proven hare Apr 25, 2023, 3:26 AM

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Yeah

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ParaSpam is a thing

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But its not HO usually

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Its BO or Balance

subtle rose Apr 25, 2023, 3:26 AM

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dedicated paraspam abuses slow breakers by making them faster

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webs does same thing, but webs is much easier to remove

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so u need a faster paced team for that

proven hare Apr 25, 2023, 3:27 AM

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Kingambit is a beast on Paraspam

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Just Paraflinch things

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Same for Bax too

weary crypt Apr 25, 2023, 3:29 AM

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well what should i replace spidops with

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cause i already have a few slower guys its all evd to do that and i already have bulky gold and a kingambit

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and gallade

agile lava Apr 25, 2023, 3:29 AM

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zerk ass

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this team is fire

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@weary crypt

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just change glimm

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well

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change pult to

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sub hex wisp darts

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first

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then change glimmora

weary crypt Apr 25, 2023, 3:30 AM

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i really want to run the corrosion tech

agile lava Apr 25, 2023, 3:30 AM

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to another webs abuser

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imo

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great tusk

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w rocks

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this ghold set is kinda bad here too

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its HO

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change this to a webs abusing set

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like specs

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gallad is heat

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masquerain is prbo better than garbage spidops tho

agile lava Apr 25, 2023, 3:32 AM

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weary crypt i really want to run the corrosion tech

it sucks sadly

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im heeading to bed tho

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if u have any questions

weary crypt Apr 25, 2023, 3:32 AM

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ok thanks for hte hlp

agile lava Apr 25, 2023, 3:32 AM

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ask zerkas

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but

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tell him

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abt the changes

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i recommendrd

subtle rose Apr 25, 2023, 3:38 AM

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agile lava zerk ass

banhammer19

subtle rose Apr 25, 2023, 3:38 AM

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agile lava ask zerkas

why worrywhirl

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i dont play this tier

agile lava Apr 25, 2023, 3:40 AM

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oh

subtle rose Apr 25, 2023, 3:41 AM

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i just nkow cm ghost val = good

thin gorge Apr 25, 2023, 2:22 PM

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https://pokepast.es/86b3ef5204e8e266 can someone improve my team?

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daring violet Apr 25, 2023, 2:25 PM

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thin gorge https://pokepast.es/86b3ef5204e8e266 can someone improve my team?

Choice band with stealth rocks is extremely sub optimal in a meta where tusk is out vs tusk you’ll get spinned / fogged very easily since you’re choiced I would recommend going with a standard SR set with lefties body press / eq, knock off

daring violet Apr 25, 2023, 2:28 PM

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thin gorge https://pokepast.es/86b3ef5204e8e266 can someone improve my team?

Aside from that team looks good you can go with substitute dirge over the set you’re currently rocking with and then give the duck lefties instead of covert cloak

thin gorge Apr 25, 2023, 2:37 PM

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alright

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do the evs look fine on the duck?

odd depot Apr 25, 2023, 2:56 PM

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https://pokepast.es/4c93033bbc9ef73c how's this?

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 3:03 PM

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I would go lo on volc and go offensive tusk with ice spinner > spin, bpress > yawn on Torkoal everything else looks fine

odd depot Apr 25, 2023, 3:09 PM

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ruby crest I would go lo on volc and go offensive tusk with ice spinner > spin, bpress > ya...

Sorry but what is lo?

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 3:10 PM

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Life orb

odd depot Apr 25, 2023, 3:12 PM

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Ima just hope that steath rock weakness doesn't hinder my team

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 3:13 PM

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With hatt and Torkoal you should keep hazard off all time

odd depot Apr 25, 2023, 3:42 PM

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ruby crest With hatt and Torkoal you should keep hazard off all time

I put boots back on volc due to I not always being able to get rid of hazards

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Especially when I can't switch in.

frank oyster Apr 25, 2023, 8:27 PM

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Hi guys, I'm back with an actual offensive team. How it looks https://pokepast.es/71797c6598e6f4ea

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ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 8:32 PM

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frank oyster Hi guys, I'm back with an actual offensive team. How it looks https://pokepast.e...

This is not bad I would go np h zoro > specs, fairy Kingambit > dengo, eject pack rocks offensive tusk, dd loaded dice Baxcalibur > washer, and giga > wisp on Volcarona

frank oyster Apr 25, 2023, 8:33 PM

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np h?

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oh nasty plot

fallow crag Apr 25, 2023, 8:34 PM

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Nasty plot hisuian zoroark

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All g tho I hate people that say hzoro

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Just say zoro, the other one is unviable anyways

frank oyster Apr 25, 2023, 8:36 PM

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true, and if it was an RU discussion itd be obvious they arent referring to the hisuian

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though I dont mind

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its only a single letter

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 8:36 PM

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fallow crag Just say zoro, the other one is unviable anyways

You see dex

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Zoro make some think of either roronoa zoro or zoro the vigilante

frank oyster Apr 25, 2023, 8:36 PM

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hmm but should I do life orb or focus sash for zoro

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 8:36 PM

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Dash

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Sash*

fallow crag Apr 25, 2023, 8:36 PM

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Sash

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Or boots even

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But never LO

frank oyster Apr 25, 2023, 8:37 PM

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does LO trigger illusion?

fallow crag Apr 25, 2023, 8:37 PM

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No but it might as well

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Cause you take the damage

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 8:38 PM

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Tho the reason you would go sash or boots is to take a hit when needed with sash or pivot without being prone to hazards with boots since hzoro is frail af

frank oyster Apr 25, 2023, 8:39 PM

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ill try sash and if Im struggling with pivoting around hazards ill prolly switch

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 8:41 PM

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Hazards can honestly be prevented if you play cards right with meow and tusk

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Prevent the opponents hazards and keep ur hazards up

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And remove their or heavily weaken there hazard setters

frank oyster Apr 25, 2023, 8:41 PM

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ye, thats why I like ghost tera meow

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people prolly expect it

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but its a good plan B if I need another hazard remover preventer

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whats a good tera type for baxacliber?

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 8:45 PM

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Dragon fairy ground are the most common

frank oyster Apr 25, 2023, 8:46 PM

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hmmm, I think my team is vulnerable to walking wake

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fairy seems like a good idea to go fairy

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and other dragons

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 8:46 PM

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When in doubt mess around and see which one benefits you the most

frank oyster Apr 25, 2023, 8:47 PM

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experimentation is the only advice that applies to everything in life

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*most things

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here it now

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https://pokepast.es/c8841b71d881d0fb

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 8:51 PM

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Go max attack and max speed on great tusk also cc > headlong rush since you hit more stuff and aren’t completely screwed against flyers to activate eject pack, np > voice on hzoro, actually I think you can just go max max gambit with tera dark lum berry

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Everything else looks fine blobthumbsup

frank oyster Apr 25, 2023, 8:52 PM

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thanks!! I look at this in sec I got in a match to test it out for a sec

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ye I put in the changes, for gambit max attack and speed or attack and hp

ruby crest Apr 25, 2023, 9:03 PM

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frank oyster ye I put in the changes, for gambit max attack and speed or attack and hp

Max speed not hp

frank oyster Apr 25, 2023, 9:03 PM

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ah got it

jaunty arrow Apr 26, 2023, 6:47 AM

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frank oyster https://pokepast.es/c8841b71d881d0fb

you could put low kick on it if you want

viral sableBOT Apr 26, 2023, 7:41 PM

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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @agile lava, @daring violet, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

proven hare Apr 26, 2023, 9:31 PM

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https://pokepast.es/52b27cb255a19c88

ruby crest Apr 26, 2023, 9:48 PM

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proven hare https://pokepast.es/52b27cb255a19c88

This looks alright

strange kayak Apr 26, 2023, 10:26 PM

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https://pokepast.es/881f0ccf8a72270f

ruby crest Apr 26, 2023, 11:43 PM

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strange kayak https://pokepast.es/881f0ccf8a72270f

Eject amoong > Breeloom, specs iron Val > corv, go standard tera flying sd gambit, rocks tera water physdef tusk > bu, and spdef tera fairy washer

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Wut do the evs on ceruledge do?

strange summit Apr 27, 2023, 12:37 AM

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https://pokepast.es/e23601518a836c73. Need a 6th member on this team, also unsure of the Kingambit set, perhaps max speed works better with tera dark or switching to tera flying is a better option.

ruby crest Apr 27, 2023, 12:41 AM

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Speed control should be last for future reference rmt is for fully completed teams

strange summit Apr 27, 2023, 12:44 AM

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mb

ruby crest Apr 27, 2023, 12:45 AM

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It’s all good you can do hex pult for last and tweak some stuff around to go along side

fiery sapphire Apr 27, 2023, 1:08 AM

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https://pokepast.es/82b0d10ed6ed81ab how is this?

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Im unsure about skeledirge i just kinda threw it in as the last mon because we already had meowscarada and iron val for our offense

fiery sapphire Apr 27, 2023, 11:45 AM

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Hmmmm

vital blade Apr 27, 2023, 11:55 AM

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Is this good? Kingambit @ Life Orb
Ability: Defiant
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 48 HP / 12 Def / 28 SpA / 176 Spe

Iron Head
Kowtow Cleave
Tera Blast
Brick Break

Blissey (F) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Natural Cure
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 80 Atk / 128 SpA / 128 SpD / 96 Spe

Stealth Rock
Thunder Wave
Soft-Boiled
Earthquake

Dragapult @ Assault Vest
Ability: Cursed Body
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 208 Atk / 252 SpA

Dragon Dance
Dragon Darts
Phantom Force
U-turn

Corviknight @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 56 Atk / 208 Def / 116 SpA / 128 SpD

Hurricane
Defog
Roost
U-turn

Toxapex @ Life Orb
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 228 Atk / 128 Def / 152 SpD

Toxic Spikes
Recover
Sludge Bomb
Body Slam

Great Tusk @ Leftovers
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 184 Atk / 252 SpA

Body Slam
Brick Break
Facade
Earth Power

strange kayak Apr 27, 2023, 12:28 PM

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ruby crest Wut do the evs on ceruledge do?

Survives non-specs shadow ball Ghold iirc

strange kayak Apr 27, 2023, 12:31 PM

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ruby crest Eject amoong > Breeloom, specs iron Val > corv, go standard tera flying sd gambi...

Also, forgot to say but
Thank you very much

wanton root Apr 27, 2023, 12:52 PM

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vital blade Is this good? Kingambit @ Life Orb Ability: Defiant Tera Type: Dark...

Use pokepaste

fiery sapphire Apr 27, 2023, 3:37 PM

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fiery sapphire https://pokepast.es/82b0d10ed6ed81ab how is this?

How is this team?

odd depot Apr 27, 2023, 3:49 PM

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https://pokepast.es/67e125eb7f5374ad I'm really struggling against Espeed dragonite.

viral sableBOT Apr 27, 2023, 3:50 PM

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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @agile lava, @daring violet, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard, @west harbor. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

ruby crest Apr 27, 2023, 3:58 PM

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odd depot https://pokepast.es/67e125eb7f5374ad I'm really struggling against Espeed dragon...

ice spinner > rapin spin on tusk, you can also do body press > yawn on torkoal after dnite teras to hit it back, but normally dnite is gonna be a big issue for sun teams

surreal bloom Apr 27, 2023, 3:58 PM

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could go for a more offensive volc

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