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shadow tapir Mar 30, 2023, 3:47 PM

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STILL,What are you going for?

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From What I see stall (I guess?)

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I guess you could go for this g.dengo set
Gholdengo @ Leftovers
Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature

Hex
Thunder Wave
Recover
Nasty Plot
(Defensive smogon set)

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(for stall obv)

fringe grove Mar 30, 2023, 3:50 PM

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ok

shadow tapir Mar 30, 2023, 3:50 PM

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Again,not a rater

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Just knowledge from freezai (haha)

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After that Cannot do anything sorry

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Idk just instinct,I think Iron Valiant is very offensive,So Semi-Stall?

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(Semi stall bc you have pex and Ting-Lu)

real willow Mar 30, 2023, 4:42 PM

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shadow tapir From What I see stall (I guess?)

imo it isn't really stall

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it's just offense with a backbone

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I would probably run scarf gholdengo so that the team has speed control

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other than that I would probably watch out for certain matchups, namely walking wake

shadow tapir Mar 30, 2023, 4:44 PM

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real willow imo it isn't really stall

That's why I'm not a rater

real willow Mar 30, 2023, 4:46 PM

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https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/5eadf40074046462f7687d0f/2x.gif

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man sees pex and just assumes stall

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toxic spikes could also work on pex instead of straight toxic

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but I'd stick w/ toxic for now

subtle rose Mar 30, 2023, 4:47 PM

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i think u change pex set & make dengo np

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u dont need more speed control w booster val sucker meow

real willow Mar 30, 2023, 4:48 PM

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shouldn't ting lu be physically defensive as well?

subtle rose Mar 30, 2023, 4:49 PM

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yea sure

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can also do wisp moth for better gambit mu

proven hare Mar 30, 2023, 4:50 PM

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Moth doesn't get wisp

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Volc does, but not Moth

real willow Mar 30, 2023, 4:51 PM

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they have a volc

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but it's also moth

proven hare Mar 30, 2023, 4:51 PM

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Yeah

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Saw that now

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Moth = Iron Moth

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Not Volcarona anymore

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Volc = Volcarona

real willow Mar 30, 2023, 4:52 PM

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it will never not be broken moth

fringe grove Mar 30, 2023, 5:02 PM

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real willow I would probably run scarf gholdengo so that the team has speed control

ok

hexed knoll Mar 31, 2023, 1:04 AM

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Good evening gamers.
I once was a simple man. I enjoyed bulky pivots and thrived in a regenerator/voltturn meta. I have recently outstalled an OU stall team with bulky offense SV because I am so used to using UU mons Slowking+Lokix. Just so you know my usual mentality!
Now, I have devolved to become more simple. I see Drizzle, and I click Water moves.

Basically, this team https://pokepast.es/a762c82d3d74241a
In my 'rise' almost breaking 1300, I have done the same things every time: I enter Pelliper, if I am not gonna be Spore'd or Thunder Wave'd I immediately swap into Barra or Float if they can tank the hit, and then immediately smack the living shit out of their team. Once they KO one of the two, I buy time with Amoongus or Gholdhengo, before restarting rain with Pelliper and then smacking the living shit out of their team with the other of the duo. On the odd occasion that they have a wall the physical swift swimmers can't 2OKHO, Kilowattrel exists to Hurricane them.
Entry hazards? Why care about them when you almost always move first and will rarely be actively switching?
Set specifics seem a strange question when you almost always hit WATER but I have altered the two so that one has Psychic and the other Fighting coverage.
This absolutely cannot work if the enemy team has Drought or the rarer Sand Stream, and the game plan becomes too messy for my simple brain to comprehend. It has especially come apart in the face of dedicated Tyranitar teams.

I am seeking advice as to how to deal with rain counters. I am certain that rain can easily be dealt with by smart gamers (and bear in mind, all I wanna do is click STAB Water - I am not smart). OBVIOUSLY - I could play slower and set and remove hazards. But Wave Crash Choice Band Floatzel under Rain with Swift Swim and Liquidation Choice Band Barraskewda under Rain with Swift Swim go Mother. Fuckin. Brrr.
But legitimately pls help

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agile lava Mar 31, 2023, 1:04 AM

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yi

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yo

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@hexed knoll

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literally just go eject amoonguss

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and

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great tusk > killowat

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and u shud be good

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kingambit > gholdengo

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is prolly

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better too

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u dont need this defensive ass gholdengo on rain HO

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pelipper needs uturn too

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insteadof knock

hexed knoll Mar 31, 2023, 1:12 AM

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I've come across a few screens teams that have actually folded bcos they see the Float and Barra and think, the only screen we need to get up is Reflect - and then they melt to Kilo. It has been funny to break their precious screens with Float Brick Break though
Although I will totally admit that Kilo is 80% there because I miss Zapdos ngl
I'm not certain on Tusk for Kilo tho - is it for general tankiness? For ground resist stuff? I'm not sure I want either with this team.
And I definitely see the Kingambit idea but Gholdengo is so damn useful... idk

Amoongus has actually been useful to burn turns when enemies have had decent stall tactics until I can fully reset rain with Pelliper, but I do get the Eject Button idea to immediately get to the POINT
Knock I think is more useful than U-Turn when I want battles to be less than 25 turns, but I do see situations where the other can be useful. Maybe drop Surf for U-Turn to get best of both worlds? Hurricane already does WERK for Pelliper in this team?

outer cradle Mar 31, 2023, 3:09 PM

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https://pokepast.es/6db3fc549d81ce64
I made this themed team around warriors. I've played a few matches with them and I mean I haven't won...but I have gotten close. I know for a fact that my iron leaves isn't working. Any substitutes or other ways i can refine this?

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calm ether Mar 31, 2023, 3:39 PM

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https://pokepast.es/952ff8b2b173e6ea suggestions are welcome

surreal raven Mar 31, 2023, 3:43 PM

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https://pokepast.es/d4c6e99fc45a4f56 am i better off running volc or is moth just fine?\

autumn igloo Mar 31, 2023, 7:50 PM

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Any advice for this gen 9 ou rain team
https://pokepast.es/ab9bce38ce9b006c

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 7:53 PM

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You probably want a more mixed amoonguss set here

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I'd use cm valiant over kilowattrel in all honesty

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I like tera flying tera blast on rain

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It's a good amoonguss lure and can win games after floatzel breaks for it

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There's also a case for clear smog > foul play on amoonguss

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A lot of the time you're gonna have to sack amoonguss to get floatzel in if they're trying to sweep you

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Clear smog let's you always revenge with floatzel, foul play does not

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The team is going to be weak to gholdengo but hopefully you keep the pressure up enough to not let that happen

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You could run tera ghost shadow ball valiant instead of the tera flying I mentioned if gholdengo is a large concern for you as well

autumn igloo Mar 31, 2023, 7:57 PM

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fallow crag You could run tera ghost shadow ball valiant instead of the tera flying I mentio...

When you say mix amoongus set like move set or ev spread

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https://pokepast.es/7b6022b144e0c438
So something like this

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 8:01 PM

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autumn igloo When you say mix amoongus set like move set or ev spread

Spread

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 8:02 PM

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autumn igloo https://pokepast.es/7b6022b144e0c438 So something like this

Drop foul play for sludge bomb (you don't need foul play AND clear smog) and drop tbolt for calm mind on valiant and you got a good team!

autumn igloo Mar 31, 2023, 8:07 PM

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fallow crag Drop foul play for sludge bomb (you don't need foul play AND clear smog) and dro...

OK awesome will do

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Thank you

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:21 PM

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fallow crag I like tera flying tera blast on rain

Isn't Taunt better for all fat poisons that wall rain?

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:22 PM

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Can run both if you want

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Taunt do be good tho

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:23 PM

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Like Taunt and Psyshock

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:23 PM

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Depends on how you want to win; tera blast can just snipe amoonguss off the earth and then you win with floatzel

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:23 PM

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CM and Moonblast are mandatory as it is

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:23 PM

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Taunt is more you want to use floatzel to break for a valiant sweep

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:23 PM

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Doesn't Psyshock do that too?

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:23 PM

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No

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Cause it doesn't ohko

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:23 PM

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Oh ok

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:23 PM

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Opp gets a chance to make a play

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:23 PM

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Maybe Tera Psychic

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Makes Valiant Gambit weak though

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:23 PM

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I doubt tera psychic is worth the downside of being a psychic type

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:24 PM

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Tera Psychic is nice for Volc as well

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But then again

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It's rain

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:24 PM

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Tbh like

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There's quite a few tera types that are like

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Objectively not good

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:25 PM

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Although Tera Grass Volc may be annoying for rain

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:25 PM

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But if you catch your opponent off guard

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They arr

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I lost to a tera fire volc cause I was playing around ground and grass

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Like thats

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An objectively bad set

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:25 PM

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It's Volc

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:25 PM

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But tera works like that

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:25 PM

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It has n number of ways to win

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:25 PM

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Yeh

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This particular volc was mono fire move

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Which was a little silly

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But yeh tera can be like that

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Which is why you can sorta run whatever a lot of the time and it can work

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But I'm not gonna suggest stuff outside of what I know is consistently good

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At least not in an rmt setting

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:27 PM

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True

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Although on rain, you likely Tera with Floatzel

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:28 PM

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Not always tbh

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I know in the rain games in SPL

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Oftentimes you need to tera defensively or you need to tera valiant

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Cause most teams

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Don't have an actual floatzel answer

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I'd only tera floatzel against really bulky shit

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:29 PM

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Well, Tera Water Tusk is a universal answer to Floatzel

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Against rain, I always make sure to Tera Tusk

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Coz I run offense

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And rain can't be outoffensed

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So better to use Tera defensively

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Btw

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Dex

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I had a H-Zoro team that is fun

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I'm at 1700s now

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https://pokepast.es/80ca211cbe16d782

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fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:31 PM

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Idk about AV king but I guess I can see it

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Looks fun

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:31 PM

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I just tried it to help more vs Valiant

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:31 PM

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Personally I've been using a lot of zoroark on sun in particular

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:31 PM

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Rotom-W does the job vs Booster Valiant

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But Tera Fairy Specs can be a bit tricky

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:32 PM

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Specs I'm feeling like is more and more rare

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:32 PM

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So I though of AV on Gambit

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:32 PM

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As people figure out that mixed and cm are the most consistent

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:32 PM

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To share the pressure

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:32 PM

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Yeh av gambit isn't the worst thing I've seen

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You could probably get away with standard

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:32 PM

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I could revert to SD lefties/boots

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:33 PM

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You know what you could do

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Is go dragon dance + tera blast tera fire on pult

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Which is a valiant lure that exists

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:33 PM

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Sounds Fun ngl\

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Although Band Pult has been insane vs stall

fallow crag Mar 31, 2023, 9:33 PM

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It's an insane mon

proven hare Mar 31, 2023, 9:34 PM

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I use Zoro disguised as Pult vs stall

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Coz they switch in a wall to scout

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They see shadow ball

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And think Pult is Specs

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Then when real Pult comes in

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That wall gets nuked by Darts

surreal raven Apr 1, 2023, 1:49 AM

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https://pokepast.es/d4c6e99fc45a4f56 am i better off running volc or is moth just fine? (Bumping)

proven hare Apr 1, 2023, 1:53 AM

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surreal raven https://pokepast.es/d4c6e99fc45a4f56 am i better off running volc or is moth jus...

Moth ain't a problem, but leaves is
You are better off running Valiant

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Also

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Grimmsnarl is very mid atm

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Orthworm is better for HO support

severe cargo Apr 1, 2023, 12:57 PM

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https://pokepast.es/abda0e3d82f596c0

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severe cargo Apr 1, 2023, 12:58 PM

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suspect team

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oh shit theres a bot that does this?

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happy afd guys

rain gyro Apr 1, 2023, 1:23 PM

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i am going to kill myself

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it was funny until you made the bot ping and took our 6 hour turn 😭

surreal bloom Apr 1, 2023, 1:28 PM

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severe cargo https://pokepast.es/abda0e3d82f596c0

why is there glimm here

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should be valiant

proven hare Apr 1, 2023, 3:20 PM

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surreal bloom should be valiant

Stealth Rock Valiant

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We need it

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Atleast for today

severe cargo Apr 1, 2023, 3:34 PM

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honestly the team isnt horrible

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since valiant is the one mon thats mixed and can kill everything but never actually does since its only got 4 moves

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but its defo not optimized lmao

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i kinda wanna fit taunt somewhere

proven hare Apr 1, 2023, 3:35 PM

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https://pokepast.es/d93c034e5fe3156f

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How about this?

severe cargo Apr 1, 2023, 3:36 PM

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oh that looks cool

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ill try it later for sure

fresh yoke Apr 1, 2023, 5:05 PM

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hi everyone, can anyone rate this team?

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https://pokepast.es/050b7e8772592e50

ocean ledge Apr 1, 2023, 5:08 PM

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#1059704283072831499

fresh yoke Apr 1, 2023, 5:08 PM

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oh

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sorry

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wrong channel

cold osprey Apr 1, 2023, 6:44 PM

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I've been having a lot of fun with this team but I feel like Meowscarada never gets mileage. who would be a good replacement? https://pokepast.es/7065d9e6581b503c

azure summit Apr 1, 2023, 7:23 PM

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using this for suspect, any pointers?
https://pokepast.es/d41c5e0be5ee7fa5

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fallow crag Apr 1, 2023, 7:28 PM

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azure summit using this for suspect, any pointers? https://pokepast.es/d41c5e0be5ee7fa5

perfect, no changes

cold osprey Apr 1, 2023, 8:04 PM

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azure summit using this for suspect, any pointers? https://pokepast.es/d41c5e0be5ee7fa5

could use toxapex, it's lacking that backbone rn

strange kayak Apr 1, 2023, 10:34 PM

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azure summit using this for suspect, any pointers? https://pokepast.es/d41c5e0be5ee7fa5

Holy shit
Based

shrewd flax Apr 1, 2023, 11:09 PM

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azure summit using this for suspect, any pointers? https://pokepast.es/d41c5e0be5ee7fa5

Smogon loves stall

thin prairie Apr 2, 2023, 5:12 AM

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https://pokepast.es/65a2a3c36f81ec74

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agile lava Apr 2, 2023, 5:13 AM

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what’s this team supposed to be? like what direction are u aiming for cuz it feels like a bunch of different ideas stacked into one team @thin prairie

thin prairie Apr 2, 2023, 5:13 AM

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i just took my ou team and used slowking and avalugg instead

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forgot to set tera

agile lava Apr 2, 2023, 5:13 AM

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that doesn’t really answer my question

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i mean like HO balance

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bulky offence

thin prairie Apr 2, 2023, 5:14 AM

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oh what archetype

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balance

agile lava Apr 2, 2023, 5:14 AM

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ok uh if i were to try to make a balance team

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realistically i’d just be keeping dragonite and slowking

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grimmsnarl and avalugg are bad

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and ceruledge / walking wake are pretty good on sun and while i have seen some balances w them i probably wouldn’t recommend it

thin prairie Apr 2, 2023, 5:15 AM

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ight

agile lava Apr 2, 2023, 5:15 AM

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i don’t wanna build the team for u so u can prob try building around them and post it

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and i’ll prob get to it in the morning if u tag me

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ceruledge + walking wake sun could also be cool if u wanna try that out

opaque hamlet Apr 2, 2023, 11:27 AM

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https://pokepast.es/b3ccc3dd5e82314a

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Hey there!

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opaque hamlet Apr 2, 2023, 11:28 AM

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This is my remodelled then HO team to now what I believe is my balance team

opaque hamlet Apr 2, 2023, 11:28 AM

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opaque hamlet https://pokepast.es/b3ccc3dd5e82314a

Any suggestions are appreciated!

severe panther Apr 2, 2023, 2:43 PM

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Rocker is needed unless you don't use hazards

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Besides that seem fine

daring violet Apr 2, 2023, 2:48 PM

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opaque hamlet Any suggestions are appreciated!

I’d go with shadow ball over thunderbolt on valiant and calm mind over close combat and make it timid. I’d go with sludge bomb over clear smog for a really strong stab move and the ability to toxic the other mon and break fairy nacl. I’d remove tusks assault vest and go with lefties and remove ice spinner or knock off preferably ice spinner and give stealth rocks. I don’t like wake on this team I would go with moth for the fiery dance booster set. I think rotom-w needs protect

opaque hamlet Apr 2, 2023, 2:51 PM

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severe panther Rocker is needed unless you don't use hazards

That's what I was thinking, my team requires Rock setter

opaque hamlet Apr 2, 2023, 2:58 PM

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daring violet I’d go with shadow ball over thunderbolt on valiant and calm mind over close com...

Thanks for the suggestions mate!

Here's the reason I went to those specific sets:

Went with a mixed set for Valiant because I need that OHKO on some mons.
2)Used Assault Vest for Tusk for a counter for Ghold. Tusk can 2HKO Ghold with this set and take suprise Shadow Ball from him as well
3)I went with Clear Smog on amogus for those pesky gimmy teams which I have been seeing a lot these days. Will switch this out.
Wake is my special wallbreaker and also works as late clean cleaner and I need a water resist, cuz Kingambit, Amogus are weak to Fire and Tusk and Kingambit (Fire Tera) is weak to water.
5)I have no idea what to do with Rotom-W

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I will change the moves and will try your suggestions.

daring violet Apr 2, 2023, 3:03 PM

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opaque hamlet Thanks for the suggestions mate! Here's the reason I went to those specific set...

Keep valiant set then maybe go with sball over tbolt, if you go with moth it’ll do a decent job against dengo, rotom W resists water just make it fully special defensive

proven hare Apr 2, 2023, 3:03 PM

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Is Speed Booster Moth any good?

daring violet Apr 2, 2023, 3:03 PM

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Imo prob it’s best set

proven hare Apr 2, 2023, 3:03 PM

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I feel that it can be weak

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And relies way too much on Fiery Dance boost

daring violet Apr 2, 2023, 3:04 PM

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Once you get that fiery boost

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It becomes pretty scary

proven hare Apr 2, 2023, 3:04 PM

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The +SpA Booster has much more power

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Atleast Initially

daring violet Apr 2, 2023, 3:04 PM

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Agreed

proven hare Apr 2, 2023, 3:04 PM

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Although you can run 4 attacks on +Speed Booster Moth

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So there's that

daring violet Apr 2, 2023, 3:05 PM

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That is true

proven hare Apr 2, 2023, 3:05 PM

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I like +SpA more but that's my personal preference

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On their team they already have Booster Valiant for Speed Control

opaque hamlet Apr 2, 2023, 3:06 PM

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daring violet Keep valiant set then maybe go with sball over tbolt, if you go with moth it’ll ...

This sounds great dude! I will change this

(Side note, dengo is kinda sounds like a bad word in my language. We'll just call him Ghold plz)

daring violet Apr 2, 2023, 3:06 PM

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My apologies I didn’t know that I’ll call them Ghold

proven hare Apr 2, 2023, 3:07 PM

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opaque hamlet This sounds great dude! I will change this (Side note, dengo is kinda sounds li...

Just curious, which language

opaque hamlet Apr 2, 2023, 3:07 PM

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proven hare Just curious, which language

Telugu

daring violet Apr 2, 2023, 3:07 PM

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proven hare I like +SpA more but that's my personal preference

Good point

proven hare Apr 2, 2023, 3:07 PM

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opaque hamlet Telugu

Fellow Indian I see

opaque hamlet Apr 2, 2023, 3:07 PM

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proven hare Fellow Indian I see

Are we dominating here too?

opaque hamlet Apr 2, 2023, 3:08 PM

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daring violet My apologies I didn’t know that I’ll call them Ghold

No need to say sorry man, not a big deal

severe panther Apr 2, 2023, 4:35 PM

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proven hare Fellow Indian I see

That makes 3 lmfao

delicate gulch Apr 2, 2023, 5:58 PM

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https://pokepast.es/9a5d1ae6f5bd65c8

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delicate gulch Apr 2, 2023, 5:58 PM

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working on my hyper offense team

fallow crag Apr 2, 2023, 6:05 PM

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In all honesty, you probably want AV pex on a team like this

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Also not a fan of blissey in general

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I know you are running all the boots, but if you do change the team further, then you're gonna want removal; I could see court change cinderace being a possibility

dry edge Apr 2, 2023, 6:15 PM

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delicate gulch https://pokepast.es/9a5d1ae6f5bd65c8

Hey. This is just the sample stall team with Garganacl > Dondozo, everything else is exactly the same.

Remember a rule of the RMT channel is to only post your teams. If you want to ask if Garganacl could work over Dondozo then try asking in the RMT https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ultimate-stall-peaked-1-2139-elo.3717661/

proven hare Apr 2, 2023, 6:28 PM

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fallow crag In all honesty, you probably want AV pex on a team like this

AV Pex is real?

fallow crag Apr 2, 2023, 6:28 PM

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yeh

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there's quite a few spl replays with it

proven hare Apr 2, 2023, 6:30 PM

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Damn

fallow crag Apr 2, 2023, 6:30 PM

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i believe this is the set? but spl sets aren't public yet so i personally don't know

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Toxapex @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Surf
Sludge Bomb
Infestation
Ice Beam

proven hare Apr 2, 2023, 6:30 PM

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Damn bro

fallow crag Apr 2, 2023, 6:30 PM

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general idea is that you chip everything and you don't die

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used on semi-stall and stall teams

proven hare Apr 2, 2023, 6:31 PM

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What does it do better than Standard Pex coz you can't use Toxic anymore?

fallow crag Apr 2, 2023, 6:31 PM

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you can actually threaten things

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which pex can't do

proven hare Apr 2, 2023, 6:31 PM

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And Toxic is what makes is non-passive

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Oh

fallow crag Apr 2, 2023, 6:31 PM

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another thing is

proven hare Apr 2, 2023, 6:31 PM

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Waif

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*wait

fallow crag Apr 2, 2023, 6:31 PM

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there is a lot of sub

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and taunt

proven hare Apr 2, 2023, 6:31 PM

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Offensive Pex

fallow crag Apr 2, 2023, 6:31 PM

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in the current meta

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so this is a way around that

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toxic pex loses to cm taunt valiant

fallow crag Apr 2, 2023, 6:32 PM

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proven hare Offensive Pex

yeh this was my reaction learning about the set

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but i saw it in action and it's honestly pretty dec

proven hare Apr 2, 2023, 6:32 PM

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Idt this set breaks fatter subs like those from Dirge

fallow crag Apr 2, 2023, 6:32 PM

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yeh, but these teams usually have a dozo

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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9ou-684335 it doesn't win in this game but you can see it work here

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winter steppe Apr 2, 2023, 7:31 PM

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got a new team I cooked up

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dirge sun bulky offense

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https://pokepast.es/74684ec2edec78d6

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its probably a load of ass but

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any advice would be most appreciated

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also I changed body press to yawn on tork so just ignore that

shadow tapir Apr 2, 2023, 8:13 PM

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winter steppe https://pokepast.es/74684ec2edec78d6

@graceful pivot ^ (sorry I did it again)

green citrus Apr 2, 2023, 8:17 PM

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winter steppe https://pokepast.es/74684ec2edec78d6

Bit slow and honestly up for debate if a lot of these guys even need sun

winter steppe Apr 2, 2023, 8:20 PM

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honestly valid

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I actually changed it again

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https://pokepast.es/25c192285c0f1620

green citrus Apr 2, 2023, 8:22 PM

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If put moon back maybe

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No ghost resist is not sick

winter steppe Apr 2, 2023, 8:24 PM

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true

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who should he replace?

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probably shocks?

green citrus Apr 2, 2023, 8:35 PM

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yuh

dry edge Apr 2, 2023, 9:08 PM

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proven hare AV Pex is real?

Raptor actually made a post with the og AV Pex build and some other teams https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/smogon-premier-league-xiv-commencement-thread.3713005/page-11#post-9558028

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There are a few variations. I've also seen these 6 but with SpDef Sludge Pex instead of AV

autumn igloo Apr 3, 2023, 4:18 PM

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Any advice in this gen ou team
https://pokepast.es/975b60f29a40de50

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ruby crest Apr 3, 2023, 4:47 PM

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autumn igloo Any advice in this gen ou team https://pokepast.es/975b60f29a40de50

Go red card amoong > dengo, and make this sucker > gunk on ace, also leftied on great tusk > helm

autumn igloo Apr 3, 2023, 4:48 PM

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ruby crest Go red card amoong > dengo, and make this sucker > gunk on ace, also leftied on ...

Amoong replaces who dengo

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So like this https://pokepast.es/1fe3aa80ad3b096f

wind dew Apr 3, 2023, 7:48 PM

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https://pokepast.es/e453af7a34ea106e

How good can actually be this team?

muted dirge Apr 4, 2023, 12:56 AM

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https://pokepast.es/957c41086d69ae33 I have tried this team out a bit But I feel like I struggle with some stuff, specifically opposing Hzoar, and no reliable gastrodon switch ins

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agile lava Apr 4, 2023, 6:56 AM

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zoroark doesn’t really fit here

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and it’s not that gastrodon is the problem, u have no reliable switchins to any special attacking water type

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what id do is change rotom to an av pex

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and replace zoroark with spikes knock uturn flower trick meowscarada to put pressure on zoroarks since uve been having trouble with that

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also changing tusk to tera water will prob help

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taking some evs out of defence and putting 56 into speed can also help vs garchomp which looks pretty annoying

sly mauve Apr 4, 2023, 7:38 AM

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Sup KD

wind dew Apr 4, 2023, 10:14 AM

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@agile lava

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https://pokepast.es/e08bb90396561073

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calm ether Apr 4, 2023, 12:13 PM

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https://pokepast.es/dd6b1da38cfca779 looking to improve ;]

fervent silo Apr 4, 2023, 12:52 PM

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Yo I love this team and every mon on it but I'm finding that most of the time tusk is the only one I'd want to hard switch in because I have gholden joe as a surprise ballooner and I want him at high health when I tera fairy, y'all got any recommendations for a mon I can replace someone with?

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Also I know dnite is bulky but that would waste multiscale

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Also the psychic on moth was for clod but it does less than 50% so I wanna switch that (should probably make that tera grass), what do y'all recommend for coverage?

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This might be kinda shit but what do you think about tera dark moth with tera blast lmao

surreal bloom Apr 4, 2023, 1:42 PM

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for who

fervent silo Apr 4, 2023, 1:56 PM

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Tera dark moth

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I'm probably gunna either do that or go tera fairy with dazzling gleam

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I will put the swarm of dragons in ou to an end

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Perhaps I don't need tera ghost valiant I already have a few mons to deal with Gholden Joe

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I'll give it tera fairy and slap psyshock on it for clod

strange kayak Apr 4, 2023, 7:22 PM

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fervent silo Tera dark moth

For what threat

agile lava Apr 4, 2023, 9:05 PM

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wind dew https://pokepast.es/e08bb90396561073

looks good besides no ghost resist

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kingambit > gholdengo should fix that problem

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leftovers probably

wind dew Apr 4, 2023, 9:06 PM

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Okey

agile lava Apr 4, 2023, 9:06 PM

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tera dark amoonguss wih foul play can also help in a pinch

wind dew Apr 4, 2023, 9:06 PM

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agile lava kingambit > gholdengo should fix that problem

Oh

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Ty

agile lava Apr 4, 2023, 9:06 PM

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u dont need clear smog + unaware i think

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tera steel on tusk is prolyl better too

fervent silo Apr 4, 2023, 9:30 PM

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strange kayak For what threat

That smacks pult

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Especially since it loves tera ghost

muted dirge Apr 4, 2023, 9:44 PM

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agile lava taking some evs out of defence and putting 56 into speed can also help vs garcho...

https://pokepast.es/046d8bbe45f3b220 So maybe something like this

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muted dirge Apr 4, 2023, 9:44 PM

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I decided that I maybe want to go with sucker over knock off on scarada because I want to revenge kill the likes of pult

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Don't really know if its necessary It might not but I just want to make my match up sure

agile lava Apr 4, 2023, 9:48 PM

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pex + tusk + ghold wall pult

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valiant

agile lava Apr 4, 2023, 9:49 PM

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muted dirge https://pokepast.es/046d8bbe45f3b220 So maybe something like this

u didnt change the tusk spread

muted dirge Apr 4, 2023, 9:49 PM

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agile lava u didnt change the tusk spread

oh sorry i forgot

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https://pokepast.es/54bdd33806cbe0e4 K changed to 56 speed tusk

agile lava Apr 4, 2023, 9:50 PM

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dont even bother using that meow i think

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what u can do is

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either use knock meow

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or

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replace it with ting lu

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and make ghold scarf

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if ur scared of pult

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but id prob just make it knock

muted dirge Apr 4, 2023, 9:52 PM

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aah alright

agile lava Apr 4, 2023, 9:52 PM

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if ur finding the mu w pult too hard

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lmk tho

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cuz then tinglu wud

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be better

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w another speed control

ocean ledge Apr 4, 2023, 10:25 PM

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https://pokepast.es/a28ffb7c8af389c6

wanton root Apr 5, 2023, 2:11 AM

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https://pokepast.es/1256ab47dd4a9d7f

low quarry Apr 5, 2023, 3:05 AM

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https://pokepast.es/137267a2424a7906

fallow crag Apr 5, 2023, 3:21 AM

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ocean ledge https://pokepast.es/a28ffb7c8af389c6

Team is good but I think you’d get more work out of dd dnite to force your opponent to use resources to deal with it for kingambit to sweep later. Tera fire encore works well here

fallow crag Apr 5, 2023, 3:23 AM

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wanton root https://pokepast.es/1256ab47dd4a9d7f

Tera fire on kingambit makes more sense here to protect it vs rotom wisp. Team is pretty weak to rotom-w, so you’re gonna want to play aggressively into it to chip it

wanton root Apr 5, 2023, 3:27 AM

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Got it

ocean ledge Apr 5, 2023, 4:52 AM

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fallow crag Team is good but I think you’d get more work out of dd dnite to force your oppon...

What set for dnite?

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I’m unfamiliar with dd Tera fire encore

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espeed fire punch?

idle lynx Apr 5, 2023, 4:59 AM

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first time building a team any pointers to look out for? https://pokepast.es/027b2fd2810f7154

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agile lava Apr 5, 2023, 5:00 AM

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dont need treads if u have corv

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tusk would be a lot better her

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e

idle lynx Apr 5, 2023, 5:01 AM

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what set would be better for tusk

agile lava Apr 5, 2023, 5:01 AM

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knock > volt switch

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everything else the same

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252 hp 200+ def 56 speed

idle lynx Apr 5, 2023, 5:02 AM

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i see alright

agile lava Apr 5, 2023, 5:02 AM

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if i were u

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id do specs valiant

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and

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boots meow instead

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gholdengo might also be better over corv actually

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w spikes meow

idle lynx Apr 5, 2023, 5:03 AM

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spec val do i change any move set ?

agile lava Apr 5, 2023, 5:04 AM

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ye

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aura sphere > cc

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if u find urself too weak to opposing gholdengo

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shadow ball tera ghost is an option but

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ull prob be fine

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can just get hazards and put pressure on it

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w moonblast

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and slowking being able to pivot in

idle lynx Apr 5, 2023, 5:06 AM

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i see

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do i switch corv or does he remain the same

agile lava Apr 5, 2023, 5:07 AM

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its fine to keep

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honestly

idle lynx Apr 5, 2023, 5:07 AM

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i do want some ground resists with corv

agile lava Apr 5, 2023, 5:07 AM

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great tusk is basically a ground resist

ocean ledge Apr 5, 2023, 5:07 AM

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real

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tusk checks tusk

agile lava Apr 5, 2023, 5:07 AM

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but corv is fine here

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in general

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helps vs dd acro moon

idle lynx Apr 5, 2023, 5:08 AM

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are there any mons that my team would lose to

ocean ledge Apr 5, 2023, 5:08 AM

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Post what you have

idle lynx Apr 5, 2023, 5:10 AM

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https://pokepast.es/99eb138106b4f0b5

ocean ledge Apr 5, 2023, 5:12 AM

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Fairy dirge could be really annoying but you can outplay

idle lynx Apr 5, 2023, 5:14 AM

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alright ty

fallow crag Apr 5, 2023, 5:21 AM

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ocean ledge espeed fire punch?

quake fire punch dd encore

green citrus Apr 5, 2023, 9:44 AM

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fallow crag quake fire punch dd encore

Isnt it dclaw fire punch ?

cerulean hinge Apr 5, 2023, 3:37 PM

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https://pokepast.es/c53fee05f6b9af92

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cerulean hinge Apr 5, 2023, 3:38 PM

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hey guys ive been using this bulky offensive team for a bit, any thoughyts?

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i struggle the most currently with grim HO

dry edge Apr 5, 2023, 4:52 PM

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cerulean hinge https://pokepast.es/c53fee05f6b9af92

PhysDef Dondozo should be a bit better here. Seems like you are rather weak to physical sweepers that can overwhelm you quickly (since Dondozo is SpDef and Tusk is offensive) such as Roaring Moon, Baxcalibur, Kingambit. Shed Tail or Screens support just makes them even harder to deal with

cerulean hinge Apr 5, 2023, 4:55 PM

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dry edge PhysDef Dondozo should be a bit better here. Seems like you are rather weak to p...

i figured, should it be curse or just regular bulky

dry edge Apr 5, 2023, 4:57 PM

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Your moveset should be fine. You can try Body Press somewhete if you want to be safer

low quarry Apr 5, 2023, 5:29 PM

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https://pokepast.es/137267a2424a7906

fallow crag Apr 5, 2023, 5:31 PM

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I don’t think gholdengo is necessary here; amoonguss makes more sense to me also I’d probably suggest running special choice scarf valiant; sd isn’t great and doesn’t really complement pult

muted dirge Apr 5, 2023, 8:56 PM

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https://pokepast.es/1e173cef76575827 Rate please and thank you

trim needle Apr 6, 2023, 2:35 AM

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https://pokepast.es/c8e71a62dba34444 help me please, i have trouble with other volcarona. plz keep breloom becaus he's awesome

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daring violet Apr 6, 2023, 2:41 AM

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trim needle https://pokepast.es/c8e71a62dba34444 help me please, i have trouble with other v...

cool team I would go with psychic for volc to hit pex and i would remove walking wake and go with orthoworm so you have an sr setter, and this team works better with a shed tail passing because i dont see any other cohesion otherwise, if you have problem with opposing volcs go tera fire on kingambit

calm ether Apr 6, 2023, 2:05 PM

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https://pokepast.es/dd6b1da38cfca779 if someone could help me improve this team, that would be great ;]

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sly mauve Apr 6, 2023, 2:06 PM

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calm ether https://pokepast.es/dd6b1da38cfca779 if someone could help me improve this team,...

I love Slowking

green citrus Apr 6, 2023, 2:11 PM

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calm ether https://pokepast.es/dd6b1da38cfca779 if someone could help me improve this team,...

Id do cb bax here, ice shard will be handy for threats that can autosweep like flying gambit and moon.

Id run standard physdef tusk, rocks and spin

Also maybe make moth the morning sun + tspikes set here. Tspikes isnt fully necessary but its nice into those meow lead HOs. The real thing is morning sun as iron moth is your only real fairy resist, and a ton of mons give valiant free clicks otherwise

ruby crest Apr 6, 2023, 2:12 PM

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Scar I believe they wanted to go for ho

green citrus Apr 6, 2023, 2:17 PM

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Slowking HO is def strange

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And the issues are still the same

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I dont think this can function as an HO

ruby crest Apr 6, 2023, 2:20 PM

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green citrus Slowking HO is def strange

Ye tho fwiw I was thinking more like screens pult and then something > iron moth/ king tho if it’s not ho your changes are good

green citrus Apr 6, 2023, 2:20 PM

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If u want to Ho this u go like

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valiant over slowking and maybe volc over moth

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Make pult specs and sash tusk

ruby crest Apr 6, 2023, 2:20 PM

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Tho ar that point this is just the rmt screens pult ho kekw

calm ether Apr 6, 2023, 2:28 PM

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I was actually looking to have a balance team, and my only prerequisites were that I wanted a mon that can wall wake and I wanted to use Kingambit, Bax and Pult haha

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But I indeed feel that this kinda looks more like HO with a random Slowking to block wake

eager rampart Apr 6, 2023, 2:40 PM

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https://pokepast.es/3b63953326455a2f sharing my team here coz i really enjoy using it

sly mauve Apr 6, 2023, 3:54 PM

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eager rampart https://pokepast.es/3b63953326455a2f sharing my team here coz i really enjoy usi...

My team better

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But I love choice scarf zoroark

proven hare Apr 6, 2023, 5:38 PM

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https://pokepast.es/a8a121ff12258009

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@green citrus @fallow crag @daring violet

fallow crag Apr 6, 2023, 5:42 PM

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Great tusk feels out of place here

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It's pretty cut and dry HO

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Should probably use a lead like meowscarada or glimmora

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Also not super into iron moth on structures like this

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Volcarona tends to provide more value

green citrus Apr 6, 2023, 5:47 PM

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Agility modest iron moth is nice, agree wirh tusk being out of place tho

proven hare Apr 6, 2023, 5:48 PM

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BU Tusk has been great, contrarily

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Makes fun of Gambit and Dragonite

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Also

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Iirc

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One of the samples has BU tusk

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Also

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Iron Moth + Valiant has served as a super core

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Moth weakens Clod with Psychic

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Valiant just Taunts and wins later

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Similarly for Pex

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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1838263477-nom0lu9do6pksmr39tat3v45kg3tctjpw

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BU Tusk takes it home

sly mauve Apr 6, 2023, 8:23 PM

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https://pokepast.es/d03c4b46a45f58fb

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sly mauve Apr 6, 2023, 8:23 PM

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hyper offense

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with dual screens curse dragapult

fallow crag Apr 6, 2023, 8:27 PM

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This is extremely similar to Lily's curse pult team

sly mauve Apr 6, 2023, 8:27 PM

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yeah it is

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but i changed some stuff

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made it better

fallow crag Apr 6, 2023, 8:35 PM

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I wouldn't say that

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The iron Valiant set is no longer a wincon and doesn't support volcarona without taunt

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No hazards means any sash Mon is super high value against your team

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So nah I don't think this is better

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And don't take credit for other's work

eager rampart Apr 6, 2023, 8:41 PM

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https://pokepast.es/f043634962b21310 ok this team isnt complete yet but i need some ideas for good teammates to add

fallow crag Apr 6, 2023, 9:04 PM

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@eager rampart we only rate completed teams, it's written very clearly in the rules. You can ask for help with building in #comp-general

eager rampart Apr 6, 2023, 9:05 PM

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oops sorry about that

sly mauve Apr 6, 2023, 9:19 PM

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fallow crag And don't take credit for other's work

💀

sly mauve Apr 6, 2023, 9:20 PM

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fallow crag No hazards means any sash Mon is super high value against your team

true..

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but i can just predict it with magic bounce

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:32 AM

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can anyone help me with my team? https://pokepast.es/22575d1f0908461f

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agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:32 AM

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whats breloom for

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:32 AM

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im mostly struggling with dd dnite and idk which mon i should replace

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its a wallbreaker

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ive gotten a lot of success with it

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priority is nice too

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:33 AM

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hmm

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i think i have

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an idea

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:33 AM

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go for it

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:33 AM

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dnite > loom

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and sum over corv

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:33 AM

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i could see it

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:33 AM

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kingambit + zoroark h is fire

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but u gotta use a better kingambit set

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:34 AM

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i agree

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:34 AM

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im just tryna think

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theres a lot of potential

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here

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we could go like cind last maybe..

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:34 AM

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im mainly a uu player so idk a lot about the metagame as a whole

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i played before chi-yu got banned but stopped because i really enjoyed the funny fish

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:34 AM

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we need something for roaring moonster

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hmm

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:35 AM

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what about hat

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:35 AM

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nah hat folds

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to it

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:35 AM

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or dozo

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:35 AM

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i was thinking dozo but idk if it fits

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maybe garg

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is the move

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:36 AM

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youre prob right

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:36 AM

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@dry edge wdyt . . . . .

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tera fairy gargman

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:36 AM

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garg just makes me unreasonably sad to use

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:36 AM

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this team is fire

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:36 AM

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i do like it though dnite > loom is good

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:36 AM

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yo

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tera fire dnite

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is so good here

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:37 AM

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dd or banded

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:37 AM

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cuz u blow past corv

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for kgambit

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dd for sure

dry edge Apr 7, 2023, 2:37 AM

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Not much thought really, seems solid. When I first saw the team I thought Loom could abuse Kingambit, Lu and Clod for Zoroark, but it felt rather slow

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:38 AM

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ye

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:38 AM

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yeah loom shreds lu

dry edge Apr 7, 2023, 2:38 AM

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Ig you are doing like ID or Curse Garg for Moon?

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:38 AM

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curse yea but u dont need either

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u just gotta break its sub

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force tera

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into kingambit kill

dry edge Apr 7, 2023, 2:39 AM

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yeah thats true

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:40 AM

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whats last move on curse garg

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:40 AM

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ill send u a

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impor

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t

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gimme a minute

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:40 AM

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kk take your time

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:40 AM

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3 ghost resists is OD but fuck it

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https://pokepast.es/a79bc31c1d0fb890

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this dnite is either heat or ass cheeks

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u gotta test it out

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most likely heat

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if its ass just change it to standard

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eq espeed roost

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dd

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:42 AM

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why tera blast over fire punch

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black glasses is heat

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:43 AM

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https://pokepast.es/fc8291a7b3e4ed4c

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:43 AM

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red glade why tera blast over fire punch

contact

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helmet

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etc

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:43 AM

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i see i see

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:43 AM

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stronger as well

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by 5

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:43 AM

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agile lava https://pokepast.es/fc8291a7b3e4ed4c

this is another option tho

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u just gotta play around

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moon

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differently

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cuz u cant let it get behind a sub or instantcook

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:43 AM

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yeah what happens if it dds once am i just cooked*

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:44 AM

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nah

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u can use

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zoroark to break sub

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and kingambit to revneg ekill

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:44 AM

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ok ok ill test it out

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appreciate the help

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 2:45 AM

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red glade appreciate the help

fasho

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ngl

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this might be the best product

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ive ever made

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out of rating

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a team

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 2:45 AM

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it looks heat

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im gonna try laddering with it

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see what happens

red glade Apr 7, 2023, 3:21 AM

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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1838576653 im insane

[Gen 9] OU replay: goldfishgirlboss vs. B0OGNISH - Pokémon Showdown

Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between goldfishgirlboss and B0OGNISH ([Gen 9] OU)

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im up 8-0 the team seems pretty good

ocean ledge Apr 7, 2023, 4:55 AM

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How does someone get 6-0d by something that badly

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Bro has 0 horo checks

main mauve Apr 7, 2023, 4:57 AM

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https://pokepast.es/014b346c10111122 does this suck? i havent played ou in like a month

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 4:59 AM

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looks good to me

main mauve Apr 7, 2023, 4:59 AM

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cool

subtle rose Apr 7, 2023, 5:52 AM

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agile lava https://pokepast.es/fc8291a7b3e4ed4c

bglasses flygambit?

agile lava Apr 7, 2023, 5:52 AM

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what’s wrong w it

subtle rose Apr 7, 2023, 5:53 AM

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i thought fly ran hdb

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j curious

jaunty arrow Apr 7, 2023, 6:27 AM

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https://pokepast.es/69aa6dfe1722b4ed

ripe sinew Apr 7, 2023, 8:23 AM

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https://pokepast.es/588aa893503262a2 rmt?

light ice Apr 7, 2023, 8:40 AM

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https://pokepast.es/25e720d98e834d5d
any improvements? i feel like i get goobed by those pesky meowscaradas

viral sableBOT Apr 7, 2023, 8:40 AM

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muted dirge Apr 7, 2023, 8:39 PM

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light ice https://pokepast.es/25e720d98e834d5d any improvements? i feel like i get goobed ...

I mean you have gambit to deal with meowscarada tbf

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Full hp ace and pex can 1v1 most sets

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Although you do kinda get chunked by Band scarada

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You can probably change gambit to leftovers for a little more longevity

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Yea but even with banded meow, you have Tera steel rotom and tusk so it’s not the end of the world

green citrus Apr 8, 2023, 1:02 AM

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light ice https://pokepast.es/25e720d98e834d5d any improvements? i feel like i get goobed ...

Making pex into amoongus and gambit into the lefties tera fire set fixed this team up solidly

surreal raven Apr 8, 2023, 9:41 AM

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https://pokepast.es/209b53c633a39f97 anything i could do here?

viral sableBOT Apr 8, 2023, 9:41 AM

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surreal raven Apr 8, 2023, 9:45 AM

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don't mind the items i'll change them

dry edge Apr 8, 2023, 11:50 AM

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surreal raven don't mind the items i'll change them

Changing the items before submitting the team would probably be more helpful.

surreal raven Apr 8, 2023, 11:52 AM

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i'm stuck on deciding what i should give

dry edge Apr 8, 2023, 12:11 PM

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That Walking Wake usually runs Leftovers or Life Orb, both should be okay. The Tusk can prolly be either Heavy Duty Boots or Leftovers

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I was thinking maybe Psychic on Iron Moth to help break pass Clodsire and Pex

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Have you considered smth like a Burte Bonnet to help against fatter teams? How have you been doing against them?

surreal raven Apr 8, 2023, 12:28 PM

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Define me what type of fatter teams, if it's the team filled with stall tanks, definitely haven't done well with them, but if it's teams with multiple tanks but isn't stall, i can break through tthem

ocean ledge Apr 8, 2023, 2:23 PM

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do everything that they said and go loom or brute bonnet over meow

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Rock tomb loom destroys stall if you’re struggling with that MU

sly mauve Apr 9, 2023, 2:14 AM

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Overgrow Meowscarada

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worrywhirl

subtle rose Apr 9, 2023, 2:15 AM

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sly mauve *Overgrow Meowscarada*

ye its a good set

sly mauve Apr 9, 2023, 2:16 AM

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Interesting

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Didn't think a squishball like Meowscarada would want a pinch ability

subtle rose Apr 9, 2023, 2:29 AM

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some r sash

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some just

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dont want to lose stab

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if its choiced prot is fine but if ur like hdb pivot why would u click flower trick and lose ur stab on knock

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or u click spikes and now u have stab on neither

supple forge Apr 9, 2023, 2:51 AM

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https://pokepast.es/b2cf8d0b84f0e310
sun

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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @agile lava, @daring violet, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

glass burrow Apr 9, 2023, 3:32 AM

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this team has its strong points but I cant help but feel something is missing. anything to change without entirely overhauling the team?

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https://pokepast.es/1ac8200cdd795fbd

pliant parcel Apr 9, 2023, 3:47 AM

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Starting to try this team, thoughts and ways I can improve? https://pokepast.es/cec0a6f0c61c2b41

rose hinge Apr 9, 2023, 12:44 PM

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rocky barn Apr 9, 2023, 4:38 PM

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im trying to build a balanced team around iron hands, but I don't know what to put next

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can anyone help me

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muted dirge Apr 9, 2023, 5:30 PM

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rocky barn

uuuh incomplete teams go to #comp-general

agile lava Apr 9, 2023, 8:34 PM

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rose hinge

u could honestly make this

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an HO team

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and it prob would be better

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if ur interested in HO of course

rose hinge Apr 9, 2023, 8:37 PM

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how so

ocean ledge Apr 9, 2023, 9:29 PM

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replace rotom with a sweeper

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make meow spikes

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moth booster

small pewter Apr 9, 2023, 9:52 PM

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https://pokepast.es/e39aaf10f71b9681 this is my Ice snowscape team? please give me some recommends I struggle v Dondozo, Gholdengo, and Gargancl the most

viral sableBOT Apr 9, 2023, 9:52 PM

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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @agile lava, @daring violet, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

small pewter Apr 9, 2023, 9:52 PM

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appreciate any help fr

agile lava Apr 9, 2023, 9:56 PM

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rose hinge how so

spikes meow orth > rotom

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and offensive sets on

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tusk and moth

rose hinge Apr 9, 2023, 9:57 PM

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the moth is an offensive set?

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and rotom helps against tusk

agile lava Apr 9, 2023, 9:57 PM

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sub > spikes speed booster energy

agile lava Apr 9, 2023, 9:58 PM

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rose hinge and rotom helps against tusk

tusk is irrelevant vs ho usually

rose hinge Apr 9, 2023, 9:58 PM

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idk last time i put this team here i got told to change booster moth

agile lava Apr 9, 2023, 9:58 PM

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everything beats it

agile lava Apr 9, 2023, 9:58 PM

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rose hinge idk last time i put this team here i got told to change booster moth

yea cuz it fits better on BO

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but booster is nice on HO

rose hinge Apr 9, 2023, 9:58 PM

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yeah but then it like cant switch in cos of no hdb

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and also defensive tusk helps me not fold to gambit

agile lava Apr 9, 2023, 9:59 PM

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that’s not the point of HO

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..

rose hinge Apr 9, 2023, 10:00 PM

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wait does orthworm wall dnite

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also rotom helps with dirge since tusk just gets wisped

ocean ledge Apr 9, 2023, 10:01 PM

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rose hinge wait does orthworm wall dnite

no

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only if they don’t run fire punch

barren quail Apr 10, 2023, 3:41 AM

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https://pokepast.es/158e9fb0efaab49c

made a av pex team with defensive tusk, pex, garg with x2 ghost and iron valiant

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any advice on what to improve?

terse rampart Apr 10, 2023, 2:05 PM

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https://pokepast.es/270c052fca3be82b

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How is it

viral sableBOT Apr 10, 2023, 2:05 PM

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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @agile lava, @daring violet, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

rose hinge Apr 10, 2023, 2:16 PM

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https://pokepast.es/95240baa4fa91b31 hyper offense

charred egret Apr 10, 2023, 2:39 PM

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https://pokepast.es/363cef056407979e bulky offence or balanced

thin gorge Apr 10, 2023, 3:13 PM

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https://pokepast.es/762f552e6d2ada6d can someone help me improve my hyper offense team?

ruby crest Apr 10, 2023, 4:48 PM

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rose hinge https://pokepast.es/95240baa4fa91b31 hyper offense

No cap this looks more of some aucky bo then ho cause tusk and scarf dengo are lowkey random here

rose hinge Apr 10, 2023, 4:48 PM

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tusk hazard removal

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and it does alot of damage

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and scarf dhengo can kill valiant and trick

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replacing gholdengo could be worht it tho

ruby crest Apr 10, 2023, 4:56 PM

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Fwiw make this lead meow, np dengo, and cm ghost iron Val > iron moth

rose hinge Apr 10, 2023, 4:59 PM

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idk iron moth has been carrying

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granted only at 1600

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but

rose hinge Apr 10, 2023, 5:18 PM

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also how is nasty plot dhengo good for ho is so slow

ruby crest Apr 10, 2023, 5:26 PM

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Fairly bulky and has more longevity, still a threatening breaker even more so with sun and also dissaudes defog

rose hinge Apr 10, 2023, 5:27 PM

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ok i put nasty plot

main mauve Apr 11, 2023, 12:47 AM

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https://pokepast.es/08f3337f24091381

viral sableBOT Apr 11, 2023, 12:47 AM

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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @agile lava, @daring violet, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

main mauve Apr 11, 2023, 12:47 AM

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(i havent built ou in like a month)

odd depot Apr 11, 2023, 4:42 PM

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https://pokepast.es/01243d7aa85a784e can anyone help add on to the team with the mons I already have?

viral sableBOT Apr 11, 2023, 4:42 PM

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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @agile lava, @daring violet, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

fallow crag Apr 11, 2023, 4:44 PM

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odd depot https://pokepast.es/01243d7aa85a784e can anyone help add on to the team with the...

Hey, we don't rate incomplete teams here. You can ask for teambuilding advice in #comp-general

trim needle Apr 11, 2023, 9:58 PM

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https://pokepast.es/f707651a79baec97 been mid-laddering with this team with mild success, thoughts?

ruby crest Apr 11, 2023, 11:05 PM

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trim needle https://pokepast.es/f707651a79baec97 been mid-laddering with this team with mild...

Go hdb slowking, dark pulse > draco on hydra, tera water > ground on tusk, focus blast > aura sphere on iron Val, and do red card amoong > talon

odd depot Apr 11, 2023, 11:36 PM

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https://pokepast.es/c58326525a9b5dbe how is this?

viral sableBOT Apr 11, 2023, 11:36 PM

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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @agile lava, @daring violet, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

clever quest Apr 11, 2023, 11:59 PM

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odd depot https://pokepast.es/c58326525a9b5dbe how is this?

Would scarf valiant work better?

odd depot Apr 12, 2023, 12:00 AM

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No it's a mixed set

fallow crag Apr 12, 2023, 12:02 AM

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odd depot https://pokepast.es/c58326525a9b5dbe how is this?

i'd go defensive great tusk over chomp (lessens the chance you get rolled by tera fire kingambit) and replace tbolt with shadow ball on valiant (helpful for gholdengo). I don't think Ice Spinner is really optimal on dnite here; I think Roost would be a lot better, but there is also a case for Encore

clever quest Apr 12, 2023, 12:03 AM

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odd depot No it's a mixed set

You always get the speed boost if your scarf, that’s more my angle

fallow crag Apr 12, 2023, 12:03 AM

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also modest on volca is probably better but up to you

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as well as most likely

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giga drain over bug buzz

odd depot Apr 12, 2023, 12:06 AM

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fallow crag i'd go defensive great tusk over chomp (lessens the chance you get rolled by ter...

I go for ice bc corv walls it hard so to avoid it removing the hazards as much as possible.

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And fire punch is to weak for my taste

fallow crag Apr 12, 2023, 12:07 AM

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if you are worried about corv, then the dnite set for you is tera fire with dd/quake/fire punch/encore or roost

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but i dont think corv is that large of a threat to the team

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you could feasibly run helmet on your own corv to chip it

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with a slower speed stat so that you uturn last

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that + knock off from tusk should keep corv in check

clever quest Apr 12, 2023, 12:09 AM

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fallow crag giga drain over bug buzz

Improves your matchup against tusk too, not that the team needs it

odd depot Apr 12, 2023, 12:11 AM

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https://pokepast.es/9482301b0464ff95 how about now?

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Wait forgot about dragonite

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https://pokepast.es/b8bce09c414dc15b there we go

fiery sapphire Apr 12, 2023, 12:46 AM

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I want tips on this team

Walking Wake @ Life Orb
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

Hydro Steam
Draco Meteor
Tera Blast
Flamethrower

Torkoal @ Heat Rock
Ability: Drought
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature

Stealth Rock
Rapid Spin
Clear Smog
Yawn

Roaring Moon @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

Dragon Dance
Crunch
Earthquake
Acrobatics

Slither Wing @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Bug
EVs: 252 HP / 12 Atk / 4 Def / 12 SpD / 228 Spe
Jolly Nature

Bulk Up
Flame Charge
Leech Life
Close Combat

Ceruledge @ Focus Sash
Ability: Weak Armor
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

Bitter Blade
Swords Dance
Shadow Claw
Psycho Cut

Dragonite @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Multiscale
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

Dragon Dance
Extreme Speed
Earthquake
Fire Punch

The person who made it wants to keep slitherwing, torkoal, walking wake, and ceruledge i was thinking of using corviknight over dragonite here to give something that can tank hatterene and defog away hazards.

ruby crest Apr 12, 2023, 1:55 AM

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fiery sapphire I want tips on this team Walking Wake @ Life Orb Ability: Protosynthesis Te...

use pokepaste it makes it easier for raters to look at as well as if they need to go back as well

fiery sapphire Apr 12, 2023, 2:09 AM

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My apologies

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https://pokepast.es/8ceff0a6c12415cc there

agile lava Apr 12, 2023, 6:11 AM

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fiery sapphire https://pokepast.es/8ceff0a6c12415cc there

specs wake, cb wing, tusk > dnite, hatt > ceruledge

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i’m kinda tired rn so if u want explanations just tag me on the morning

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in*

odd depot Apr 12, 2023, 12:35 PM

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clever quest Improves your matchup against tusk too, not that the team needs it

Realistically great tusk die to any special move anyway so

rose hinge Apr 12, 2023, 3:30 PM

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ruby crest Fwiw make this lead meow, np dengo, and cm ghost iron Val > iron moth

i know this is a bit late

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but is calm mind ghost running shadow ball

ruby crest Apr 12, 2023, 3:39 PM

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Yes

rose hinge Apr 12, 2023, 4:31 PM

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instead of psyshock or shadow ball

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or tbolt i mean

ruby crest Apr 12, 2023, 4:52 PM

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Tbolt

mystic quarry Apr 13, 2023, 3:41 PM

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https://pokepast.es/3971d433fbe6c1ca bad sun team

viral sableBOT Apr 13, 2023, 3:41 PM

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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @agile lava, @daring violet, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

rough tundra Apr 13, 2023, 4:48 PM

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https://pokepast.es/e05d13dd7fae1fb5
rate my team

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Also, I often struggle against Garganacl when its Tera Water, and against both Volcarona and Iron Moth being led with. How can I counter act this?

mystic quarry Apr 13, 2023, 4:53 PM

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rough tundra Also, I often struggle against Garganacl when its Tera Water, and against both V...

maybe grass knot for garg on val?

rough tundra Apr 13, 2023, 5:01 PM

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Grass knot over Tbolt?

rose hinge Apr 13, 2023, 5:05 PM

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grass knot isnt great against much else though

ruby crest Apr 13, 2023, 6:18 PM

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mystic quarry https://pokepast.es/3971d433fbe6c1ca bad sun team

Body press > do on Torkoal, specs wake > scarf tera water dpulse > tera blast run 244 spa max speed timid, eject button hwish hatt > garg, offensive lefties great tusk, and cb moon > dnite

ruby crest Apr 13, 2023, 6:22 PM

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rough tundra https://pokepast.es/e05d13dd7fae1fb5 rate my team

How exactly are garg and volc/ iron moth an issue I understand a bit for the former but when you have a baxc volc and moth shouldn’t be as problematic

rough tundra Apr 13, 2023, 6:24 PM

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Yea ur right about baxc I just figured that out

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What about Garg tho

ruby crest Apr 13, 2023, 6:25 PM

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Garg is gonan get overwhelmed tho if you wanna pressure it slightly more

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Replace king with dnite helps still with moth and volc if you still feel uneasy with only baxc, np h zoro > dengo, and cm ghost iron Val > mixed, also would recommend having booster energy on tusk

small pewter Apr 13, 2023, 10:51 PM

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https://pokepast.es/dce1cce8c1c78f45 any recommends for the last spot

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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @agile lava, @daring violet, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

ruby crest Apr 13, 2023, 10:59 PM

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small pewter https://pokepast.es/dce1cce8c1c78f45 any recommends for the last spot

This channel is for completed teams though fwiw this team is also looking like a sample moment

green citrus Apr 13, 2023, 11:13 PM

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small pewter https://pokepast.es/dce1cce8c1c78f45 any recommends for the last spot

Its hard to make a recommendation for a team thats barely an OU team im ngl to u man

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A lot of these pokemon are not viable at all

small pewter Apr 13, 2023, 11:27 PM

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I'm just attempting a snow team that is a little viable so idk

mystic quarry Apr 14, 2023, 2:47 AM

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ruby crest Body press > do on Torkoal, specs wake > scarf tera water dpulse > tera blast ru...

sorry if I'm misunderstanding some but what ae you suggesting to swap for body press on torkoal? specs wake w/ diff stats and eject button healing wish hatterine over garg? roaring moon over dragonite but ~~what is cb?~~ nvm brain cell turned back on

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 2:52 AM

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Let me rephrase it

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Body press > earth power on Torkoal, 244 spa 12 def max speed specs walking wake tera water > fairy and dragon pulse > tera blast, replace garg with eject button hatterene, and I believe you figured the last

mystic quarry Apr 14, 2023, 2:55 AM

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ruby crest Body press > earth power on Torkoal, 244 spa 12 def max speed specs walking wake...

set w/ walking wake is d meteor, d pulse, hydro

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for 4th maybe flamethrower?

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 2:55 AM

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Flame

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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @agile lava, @daring violet, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

surreal raven Apr 14, 2023, 4:04 PM

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https://pokepast.es/f376eff5e6572dcf
Heya! What should i add to this team? This team handles everything pretty well, but i find it to be a little 'clunky'

viral sableBOT Apr 14, 2023, 4:04 PM

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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @agile lava, @daring violet, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

rose hinge Apr 14, 2023, 4:45 PM

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https://pokepast.es/8092fcbda7d1b1fe

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iron moth team

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i wanna keep it booster at least if possible

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 4:51 PM

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Are you trying to go for ho here?

rose hinge Apr 14, 2023, 4:55 PM

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uh yeah

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i know tusk might be a bit weird but i need hazard removal

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 4:56 PM

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Aight soo

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Go taunt dd moon > dnite, orthworm > baxc, and np h zoro > pult

rose hinge Apr 14, 2023, 5:03 PM

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what the heck does taunt moon run

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also without bax theres like no wallbreaker to take advantage of

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 5:14 PM

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Taunt moons runs dd crunch acro taunt

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You have every other walkbreaker in the team if you feel you really lack walkbreaker then you can do booster energy tusk

eager rampart Apr 14, 2023, 7:04 PM

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https://pokepast.es/63c35334c06df5d4

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finally finished this team

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 7:33 PM

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Magnezone and gyara are random here

eager rampart Apr 14, 2023, 7:39 PM

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zone is there to counter steel types and gydragos just works very nice

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i could probably replace him with a better ddance sweeper tbh

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 7:40 PM

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Fwiw there’s only like one real steel that zone can trap even then corv usage is uncommon and yeh there are better dd cleaner tho fwiw you prob would

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A lot of mons here not a fan in this structure

eager rampart Apr 14, 2023, 7:41 PM

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wdym by 'not a fan in this structure'

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 7:42 PM

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Cause it looks like it wants to be bo tho half of the structure also in hon

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Unless you where’re trying to go for a specific one @eager rampart

eager rampart Apr 14, 2023, 7:46 PM

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wdym by specific one?

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 7:56 PM

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Like are you going for bo or ho

eager rampart Apr 14, 2023, 7:58 PM

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bo

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mostly just balance

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 8:10 PM

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Aight

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So fwiw yeah zone gyara and to some greater extent Quaq are just random

agile lava Apr 14, 2023, 8:25 PM

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surreal raven https://pokepast.es/f376eff5e6572dcf Heya! What should i add to this team? This ...

orthworm

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over skeledirge

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the reason it feels clunky is because skeledirge doesn’t fit

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 8:26 PM

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Psyshock > shadow ball on Val, physdef tusk > Quaq, curse garg > sr, rotom-w > zone, pivot meow > lead, and cb baxc > gyara

eager rampart Apr 14, 2023, 8:28 PM

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feels like a totally different team

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 8:30 PM

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Tried to keep as close as possible to the og just cause like mons liek zone, gyara, and Quaq are just random here tbh and would want to be soemthing else

eager rampart Apr 14, 2023, 8:30 PM

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idk if they're random

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they just do different things

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the only one i agree with is gyara

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coz trapping steel types is useful i think

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and quaq has been putting in work for me

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i mostly use quaq coz im kind of a hipster and i dont like using tusk

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unless im going for a sun team

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 8:34 PM

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eager rampart coz trapping steel types is useful i think

You only trap corv and even then there’s many other ways to pressure corv

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Quaq is only really good in ho imo cause it just faces a lot of competition against other mons

eager rampart Apr 14, 2023, 8:34 PM

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ghold and kingambit too

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 8:34 PM

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Not really

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Ghold doesn’t get trapped

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And gambit has it ways to beat its and if it Teras you won’t be trapping it no more

eager rampart Apr 14, 2023, 8:38 PM

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right i forgot ghost types dont get trapped

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 8:41 PM

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So in general zone isn’t really trapping a lot

clever quest Apr 14, 2023, 8:53 PM

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https://pokepast.es/25ea9b83ea26c42f
How does Claud look on this team? How do yall think I could have a better match up against corv before moth is ready to go?

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 8:55 PM

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Clod is definitely random here

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If you wanna take advantage of corv you can do something like dengo, dd taunt moon

clever quest Apr 14, 2023, 8:59 PM

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I'm liking the banded moon on this team, what should I switch claud with? SpDef dengo?

ruby crest Apr 14, 2023, 9:04 PM

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You can np balloon dengo ye

clever quest Apr 14, 2023, 9:07 PM

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https://pokepast.es/e53b51a7428c3b49
It does look better

clever quest Apr 14, 2023, 9:08 PM

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ruby crest You can np balloon dengo ye

thanks

tame zinc Apr 14, 2023, 10:36 PM

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https://pokepast.es/2f6b62565a0444be

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help

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pls

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west harbor Apr 14, 2023, 10:52 PM

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tame zinc https://pokepast.es/2f6b62565a0444be

i think you’re going for a shed tail offense team here right? the main thing with these types of teams is that they’re hyper offense, so they’re essentially shed tail + (maybe) hazard lead + 4 very offensive teammates that can potentially just win the game

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so for this team, i think the biggest issue is slowking bc it’s a very passive pokemon and it sacrifices the hyper offensive nature of the team you’re going for

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id also recommend changing cinderace as well, it is somewhat offensive but it’s more of a pivot and doesn’t really have the sweeper potential you’d want on these kinds of teams

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so the changes i’d say to make are remove slowking + cinderace + breloom and replace them with more offensive teammates. id recommend iron moth or volcarona over cinderace + iron valiant over slowking. breloom would probably be fine if you rly wanted to keep it but i’d recommend a different lead maybe glimmora/meowscarada bc they can get up hazards and make it easier for the offensive pokemon

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id also go max max on kingambit with tera dark + black glasses, that spread is a little outdated and having more power on sucker punch helps a lot

tame zinc Apr 14, 2023, 10:59 PM

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so something like this?

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https://pokepast.es/3484611ea1c1cd19

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except tera grass on moth

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or should I keep tera fire

west harbor Apr 14, 2023, 11:00 PM

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oh when i said max max kingambit i meant max attack max speed my bad

tame zinc Apr 14, 2023, 11:01 PM

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oh ok

west harbor Apr 14, 2023, 11:01 PM

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and with moth id recommend tera fairy actually

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bc then you resist sucker punch

tame zinc Apr 14, 2023, 11:01 PM

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alright cool

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jolly nature on gambit or nah/

west harbor Apr 14, 2023, 11:02 PM

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Iron Moth @ Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

Fiery Dance
Dazzling Gleam
Psychic
Energy Ball / Sludge Wave

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up to you

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i think adamant is fine here bc you’re not low kick

rain gyro Apr 14, 2023, 11:21 PM

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west harbor Iron Moth @ Booster Energy Ability: Quark Drive Tera Type: Fairy EVs: 252 ...

"tera fairy"

west harbor Apr 14, 2023, 11:21 PM

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oh yea my bad i pasted from the import

rain gyro Apr 14, 2023, 11:21 PM

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lmao

west harbor Apr 14, 2023, 11:21 PM

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fixed, ty

rain gyro Apr 14, 2023, 11:22 PM

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also is phys valiant preferred on this team?

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or cm

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also np

west harbor Apr 14, 2023, 11:22 PM

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yea you rly want fairy on it for sucker

rain gyro Apr 14, 2023, 11:22 PM

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rain gyro also is phys valiant preferred on this team?

i am totally not gonna steal it

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i like the concept lmao

west harbor Apr 14, 2023, 11:22 PM

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you could go cm if you wanted to

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i think both sets are pretty decent and it’s up to preference

west harbor Apr 14, 2023, 11:22 PM

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rain gyro i am totally not gonna steal it

shed tail is incredibly good rn

rain gyro Apr 14, 2023, 11:22 PM

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i know lmao

gloomy bluff Apr 15, 2023, 5:27 PM

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https://pokepast.es/e7af86fb21b3f4ef Wanted to recreate Chi-Yu with Hydreigon @frigid sierra @severe shard @worn arrow

rough tundra Apr 15, 2023, 10:14 PM

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Which version is better

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Also Ik my zoroark moveset is weird what is the proper moveset he should have

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Might have done the calm mind iron Val wrong too

ruby crest Apr 15, 2023, 10:53 PM

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rough tundra

The second one tho use poke paste

rough tundra Apr 15, 2023, 11:10 PM

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The one with zoroark right?

ruby crest Apr 15, 2023, 11:13 PM

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Ye

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ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 4:43 PM

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surreal raven https://pokepast.es/91f432bbb78d6eee

Go max attack max speed gambit and tera dark > flying, rocks > bu on tusk here tbh, tera blast > bug buzz and tera ground on volc, go np zoro, and lead meow > Glimmora

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dense fulcrum Apr 16, 2023, 5:15 PM

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How are we looking

west harbor Apr 16, 2023, 5:23 PM

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i’m kinda worried about your kingambit mu more than anything. you have corv and valiant but your corv is walled and valiant can only rly come in once. i think great tusk > clodsire would help you out there because clod is a lot more passive and struggles vs it

dense fulcrum Apr 16, 2023, 5:27 PM

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If you dont mind me asking I'm kinda new to this wdym by my corv is walled?

west harbor Apr 16, 2023, 5:27 PM

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you can’t hit it back because you don’t have a move to

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you could put body press over brave bird if you wanted

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but i still wouldn’t say thats enough to reliably beat it if it’s boosted

dense fulcrum Apr 16, 2023, 5:29 PM

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Gotchu

thin prairie Apr 16, 2023, 5:29 PM

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west harbor you could put body press over brave bird if you wanted

i thought brave bird was for tusk tho?

dense fulcrum Apr 16, 2023, 5:30 PM

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Ok so I switched clod for bulk up tusk

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 5:39 PM

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https://pokepast.es/20c02e2446f5ae27 how is this team?

west harbor Apr 16, 2023, 5:44 PM

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thin prairie i thought brave bird was for tusk tho?

it is, and also valiant as well

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but you kinda have to choose which one you want, and since they chose brave bird then their gambit matchup is slightly worse

west harbor Apr 16, 2023, 5:47 PM

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dense fulcrum Ok so I switched clod for bulk up tusk

these are more optional, but i kinda feel like that cm booster valiant fits better on hyper offense teams bc with booster you can only really come in and break once. i think you could go specs > booster and then potentially change the greninja to another defensive pivot like av toxapex to help with the volcarona matchup you lose by dropping clodsire

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also with tusk i think you should go for a rocks set bc you lack that, but if you don’t want hazards then bulk up would work

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 5:48 PM

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fiery sapphire https://pokepast.es/20c02e2446f5ae27 how is this team?

I think i covered the bases, we got out tanks, got our set up sweepers and wallbreaker, we got hazard removal, my main worry is do we struggle with speed or is our priority enough?

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 5:49 PM

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fiery sapphire I think i covered the bases, we got out tanks, got our set up sweepers and wallb...

I’m ngl i don’t like av pex here, it kills a lot of momentum here for what looks for a very offensive based team

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 5:50 PM

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What could I replace with pex?

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 6:01 PM

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fiery sapphire What could I replace with pex?

Before I do any necessary changes are there any mons in particular you want to keep or if you actually want to go for a more offensive oriented team or something else

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 6:02 PM

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Baxcaliber, tusk, and hatt are the only mons i am confident I did well on so aside from them go crazy

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 6:04 PM

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Okie

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I would go booster energy tusk, eject button hatt, orth > pex, tera fire > flying on gambit, and cm ghost iron Val > dnite

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 6:08 PM

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Booster tusk?

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Havent seen that before?

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Also booster val as well?

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 6:10 PM

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Yeh

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 6:11 PM

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Why booster tusk over band?

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Never seen that over band or lefties

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 6:12 PM

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Doesn’t have the punishment of getting locked and you are able to deal high amounts of damage and remove hazards before leaving, enables late game cleaner or can weaken something

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 6:17 PM

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Alright alright cool

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Hmm is my team going to be weak to ground?

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Or not many ground types really threaten the team all that much

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:19 PM

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booster tusk is rare but it exists yeah

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 6:19 PM

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Cuz ting lu doesnt want to take icicle spear, great tusk doesnt want to face off against hat or iron val, thise are the main ones

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 6:19 PM

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There’s only like one real ground in the tier rn which is great tusk if it’s defensive orthworm takes advantage of it and you have ways to beat it or significantly pressure it

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 6:19 PM

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Also earth eater

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 6:19 PM

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Ting lu however while it’s not gonna pressure you a lot it will be annoying since it can whirlwind shed tail subs

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But yeh you have like a hatt

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So you are fine

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I woudove wanted a lead meow in here to pressure tusk even more but couldn’t fit it in without drastically changing the team to much

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Also if you don’t feel you make good use of the bulk ingambit

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You can try max speed max attack lum berry tera dark

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:21 PM

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max speed adamant gambit is something i like to cook every now and then

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100% outspeeds skeledirge because no one puts enough speed investment in it

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 6:22 PM

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Does it outspeed corviknight?

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:22 PM

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and lum berry prevents tera fairy will o wisping

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:22 PM

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fiery sapphire Does it outspeed corviknight?

yeah if it's not speed invested

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252 spe gambit picks up 199 speed

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with adamant

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 6:22 PM

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Oooo i might go with that cuz that sounds like it'd really hard to stop

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:22 PM

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lol

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 6:23 PM

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fiery sapphire Oooo i might go with that cuz that sounds like it'd really hard to stop

You can mess around with either or

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Both have their merits

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 6:23 PM

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Also sub dirge i feel should be used more its so fun

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:24 PM

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yall are making me want to try and cook something myself

thin prairie Apr 16, 2023, 6:24 PM

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https://pokepast.es/55da06a449ce818c

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 6:24 PM

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rain gyro yall are making me want to try and cook something myself

Does it use substitute skeledirge?

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:25 PM

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(i haven't cooked it yet)

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(how am i gonna know)

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(lol)

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 6:25 PM

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Well you can have an idea of what your making before you make it

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:25 PM

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true

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but yeah i was thinking around that

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i have an idea in mind brb

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 6:26 PM

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Max speed or 199 speed

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For kingambit

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:27 PM

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199 is my personal guess

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but ask tyson

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i don't see anything 218 doing that 199 doesn't tho except outspeed azu which doesn't matter much

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 6:27 PM

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Hmmm what does gambit outspeed with max speed that it would want to outsped but gmcant with 199

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:28 PM

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defensive tusk but it's not doing anything to defensive tusk without tera flying anyway

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other than that nothing ig

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other than the azu

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 6:28 PM

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Even with tera fly its not a preferable match up because tusk just walls unless you mash sd.

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:28 PM

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true lmao

fiery sapphire Apr 16, 2023, 6:33 PM

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https://pokepast.es/c9cf56608fd7c7b8 here is the team

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:38 PM

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https://pokepast.es/189014cbd23ddbec

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i did not test this yet

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but uh

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yes

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 6:41 PM

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fiery sapphire https://pokepast.es/c9cf56608fd7c7b8 here is the team

Go eject button hatt, tera fire gambit, and everything else is fine

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 6:45 PM

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rain gyro https://pokepast.es/189014cbd23ddbec

This is really solid tho my only nitpick is wanting something else > dengo

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:46 PM

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ruby crest This is really solid tho my only nitpick is wanting something else > dengo

lmfao unexpected

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originally i slammed dengo in to prevent hazard removal

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but i changed the hazard settings four times since then

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so /shrug

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what do i slap over it though pikathink

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 6:48 PM

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Cause you can do something like rotom-w, pult, dnite

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Tho might lead more toward dnite gives you a flyer and another way to check stuff like sun, volc, and friends

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:49 PM

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i was gonna dnite

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but all are cool but sure

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average es roost eq dd?

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 6:49 PM

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Ye

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:49 PM

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ait

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alright ty

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 6:50 PM

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You lowkey might want rocks tusk here

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:50 PM

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rocks set or

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just slap rocks over some move

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 6:50 PM

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Offensive rocker

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Ye

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:50 PM

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ok

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so like

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Great Tusk @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Protosynthesis
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Fighting
Jolly Nature

Headlong Rush
Close Combat
Stealth Rock
Rapid Spin

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this set?

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 6:51 PM

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He

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Ye*

rain gyro Apr 16, 2023, 6:51 PM

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changed

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thanks lmao

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 6:51 PM

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Anytime

gloomy bluff Apr 16, 2023, 7:07 PM

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https://pokepast.es/72e10bb04887ea5e

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@ruby crest would you like to help me out with this team?

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I've been doing very well with it on the mid ladder so I know the team is decent enough but I know it's not perfect so I'd like some professional feedback on it

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or @worn arrow @agile lava @dry edge

strange summit Apr 16, 2023, 7:26 PM

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https://pokepast.es/bd5dae5e12899147 Trying to make a Volcarona HO team and was wondering if this worked, was thinking of Kingambit over Gholdengo but not sure, appreciate any feedback.

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 7:39 PM

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gloomy bluff https://pokepast.es/72e10bb04887ea5e

Not a big fan of cb Val or specs dreigon you generally are better off with np hydra

gloomy bluff Apr 16, 2023, 7:40 PM

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ruby crest Not a big fan of cb Val or specs dreigon you generally are better off with np hy...

Alright so should I turn the team into more of an offensive one with np drei and booster energy valiant?

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 7:40 PM

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I was thinking more of

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Np drei, scarf Val, offensive great tusk > dengo, red card > Rocky helm on amoong and foul play > clear smog, and rotom-w > Quaq

gloomy bluff Apr 16, 2023, 7:44 PM

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Alright sounds good

gloomy bluff Apr 16, 2023, 7:44 PM

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ruby crest Np drei, scarf Val, offensive great tusk > dengo, red card > Rocky helm on amoon...

What set for np drei?

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 7:44 PM

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You can def do np sub

gloomy bluff Apr 16, 2023, 7:44 PM

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Alright

ruby crest Apr 16, 2023, 9:30 PM

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strange summit https://pokepast.es/bd5dae5e12899147 Trying to make a Volcarona HO team and was ...

Go tera ground tera blast > bug buzz volc, screens pult, gambit > dengo, bd encore azu, booster energy tusk, and lead Meow > glimpse

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lilac sun Apr 17, 2023, 4:04 AM

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ruby crest Apr 17, 2023, 4:33 AM

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lilac sun <@264235343757180928> can you help me make this team better https://pokepast.es/...

team is very weird dont like specs sylveon

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you trying to go for ho here?

lilac sun Apr 17, 2023, 4:40 AM

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yea

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rid of the sylveon team https://pokepast.es/c367816333a2ddbd

ruby crest Apr 17, 2023, 5:20 AM

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idk i would rather have gone cm ghost iron val > hatt, fix moons moveset crunch > tchop, go sub dirge, energy ball > dgleam on glimmora, and volc > edge

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west harbor Apr 17, 2023, 1:02 PM

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bug buzz > morning sun on volcarona - on ho you don’t necessarily need to recover bc you’ll just be setting up and winning
crunch > iron head on roaring moon - it’s your strongest move unless you tera so it’s really valuable to keep
you could try glaive rush > ice shard on baxcalibur too. priority can be nice but you’re running dd so you can usually outspeed most things so the dragon nuke is better

in terms of bigger changes i’d go cm valiant > hatterene because it’s a lot less passive and benefits more on hyper offense. you could also change tusk to a booster energy set or just replace it for something more offensive like kingambit too, which i think is better on hyper offense bc sucker is really dangerous after a few boosts

lilac sun Apr 17, 2023, 1:53 PM

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@silk hamlet what set should I use for this volc https://pokepast.es/3545cec26624bdbb

silk hamlet Apr 17, 2023, 1:55 PM

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lilac sun <@701762894387478558> what set should I use for this volc https://pokepast.es/35...

Idk i dont rate ou lol

lilac sun Apr 17, 2023, 1:57 PM

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oh

digital lava Apr 17, 2023, 2:40 PM

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west harbor bug buzz > morning sun on volcarona - on ho you don’t necessarily need to recove...

for volc i dont see what bug buzz covers which is why i didnt use it
it makes sense to remove morning sun but if flame body works its really nice for healing

shard on bax is needed in the kingambit, cinder, and meowscarada matchup (they all run sucker mostly )and i have no other priority
im also not gonna add glaive rush since it doesnt really help cover anything as far as i see, i already have ice vs dragon

for moon i run IH since hatterene tanks acrobatics (crunch is possible 2hko), and its good vs bax, and a few others.

for valiant, it just didnt fit well. hatter fits since its a tanky switch in, magic bounce is absolutely amazing vs stall and hazards, etc.

tusk on booster didnt work on the team when i used it, lefties tusk worked but i realized i needed more utility so i swapped it to boots

i dont wanna remove tusk for gambit since i think rapid spin and knock off is really important to my team atm. I had kingambit on the team before but i removed it for volc since gambit didnt offer much more typically. i may remove hatter for gambit though

west harbor Apr 17, 2023, 3:11 PM

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digital lava for volc i dont see what bug buzz covers which is why i didnt use it it makes se...

bug buzz is good vs stuff like non tera moon (especially helpful if it’s behind a sub bc shed tail is pretty dangerous rn), ting-lu, slowking etc and also a strong neutral hit on a lot of bulkier stuff like rotom/dozo. you could probably go giga drain too if you wanted, but i prefer bug buzz on ho for the extra power

while shard on bax can be useful for the situations you said, it does make your set purely ice + ground coverage so you’re sacrificing being able to use the stupidly strong dragon nuke. you could maybe try dd shard spear glaive rush if you rly wanted to keep shard, or just sd with spear shard rush for extra power if you wanna be more reliant on your prio

in that one situation, iron head does seem better than crunch on moon. but the reason crunch is good is bc it’s consistent and hits a lot neutral/super effective. acro is good to click, but if you haven’t terad, crunch is your strongest move. your moon rn forces you to tera to have a stab move and that’s not ideal imo

you could do gambit > hat if you wanted yea. the reason i suggested valiant is bc it hits similar things to hat but is less of a momentum sink because it’s a lot faster. something slow like hay means more defensive mons have the ability to recover. you’re also reliant on getting multiple boosts to hit stuff like pex

ruby crest Apr 17, 2023, 3:23 PM

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lilac sun <@701762894387478558> what set should I use for this volc https://pokepast.es/35...

Shadow ball > aura sphere on iron Val and run offensive volc tera blast ground here

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