#[DO NOT USE][ARCHIVED] SV OU Rates

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wanton root
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This should go in #comp-general

winter steppe
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ah my bad, sorry

fallow crag
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Honestly I could see you dropping slowking for tera water amoonguss

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Should help with dnite if you're also clear smog

sharp cairn
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What about zoroark, is it fine as is?

autumn igloo
fallow crag
sharp cairn
fallow crag
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nah

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clear smog is better

sharp cairn
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Awesome

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So grass knot or giga drain?

fallow crag
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giga

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gknot is only useful for garg

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but if you face garg it is 100% gonna tera

sharp cairn
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True

fallow crag
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you could also consider

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tera fire on tusk with boots

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but i think water should be fine

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so you dont get super rained on

sharp cairn
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Gotcha

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Thanks man

weary crypt
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azu is the least important member i just kind of threw it on there

rain gyro
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peaked 1835 once in my life

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but i'll test it on an alt

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lmao

wanton root
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subtle rose
wanton root
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gambit

subtle rose
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ur not that weak to gambit tbh

wanton root
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idt anything here really wants to come into it otherwise

subtle rose
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u can tera fairy and ep and still be perfectly fine

wanton root
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does ep ohko

subtle rose
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252 SpA Sandy Shocks Earth Power vs. 112 HP / 0 SpD Kingambit: 320-380 (86.7 - 102.9%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

wanton root
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also it can just decide to be immune to ground

subtle rose
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yea but

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+2 iron head into tera fighting shocks still drops u

wanton root
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wait what

subtle rose
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+2 252+ Atk Kingambit Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Fighting Sandy Shocks: 303-357 (97.4 - 114.7%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

wanton root
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💀

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so why don't you think this is weak to gambit again

subtle rose
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washer gives u copeable options vs it

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and u can always catch it w a tera from dirge n such

wanton root
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true

ocean ledge
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Wash into dirge always beats gambit

subtle rose
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n they tera fire

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if they do that u have to use ting

wanton root
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so just standard fairy shocks right

subtle rose
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i think thats fine ye

wanton root
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cool

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also id really recommend trying modest

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the speed drop is barely noticeable

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is there anything else here that looks like it could be changed

subtle rose
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nh looks ok

wanton root
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thanks

unreal plaza
wanton root
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@daring violet

daring violet
unreal plaza
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Any other changes

daring violet
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no maybe rocky helmet on corvi

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also sub skele might be better and just give pex lefties

unreal plaza
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Whys that

languid mirage
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Im not the most experienced on balance teams but meowscarada seems like a bit of a problem too, especially if its running thunder punch

unreal plaza
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Meowscarada runs thunderpunch?

languid mirage
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Overall nice team though :)

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Sometimes

unkempt hill
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nah youre fine

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252 Atk Choice Band Protean Meowscarada Thunder Punch vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 228-270 (57.1 - 67.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

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on the off chancce that its banded tpunch just go tinglu

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after corv takes the hit

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youll be fine

languid mirage
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Ah fair

daring violet
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on pex at least

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on other mons i dont mind it like dengo

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but dengo needs speed check here

unreal plaza
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Should I run spike or ruination

daring violet
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spike for your team

unreal plaza
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So something like this

daring violet
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yes exactly that

winter steppe
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ill do it properly now

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ruby crest
winter steppe
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icic, thanks

ruby crest
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Ngl volc may be a bit annoying so you can try cb bax > chomp

winter steppe
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ill try that too

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whats the cloak amoonguss set?

ruby crest
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It’s the one on the analysis just with cloak as the time

winter steppe
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Gotcha

empty mantle
surreal bloom
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the average psyspam is eject hatt no?

empty mantle
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I would rather not have my sweeper be forced to switch out

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Especially since stored power is nice for unaware

empty mantle
surreal bloom
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last mon could be anything on this really

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I’ve seen tusk the most though

empty mantle
surreal bloom
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rocks

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offensive

cerulean marsh
proven hare
rain gyro
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VERY similar

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quaq (exact same)
hzoro (hyper voice over psychic)
kingambit (exact same, but why 0 atk IVs lmao)
volcarona (252 spa 4 spd 252 spe, fiery dance quiver dance bug buzz giga drain)
grimmsnarl (exact same)
glimmora (common rocks sash set)

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i gotta say that if i were you, i would use calm mind valiant because it's screens

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probably over psyshock OR thunderbolt, and then give it booster energy

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but other than that this looks lit

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also kingambit 0 atk is amog

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(then again i'm not good at game but this is my mere opinion)

dry edge
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Also a bit odd to have Tera Normal without a Normal move

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Maybe we can do Hyper Voice instead?

proven hare
dense bison
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dense bison
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im between iron moth and iron valiant for a frail sweeper

agile lava
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what about dragapult?

dense bison
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and pex, rotom, or slowking for a bulky water type

agile lava
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it plays off well

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w tinglu

dense bison
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i considered dragapult too

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but i dont like its dd set

agile lava
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i think the sub hex set

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works fine here

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darts

dense bison
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u dont think its redundant with skel?

agile lava
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i dont ive used it a lot

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hydreigon also works pretty well but then thet eams kinda slow

dense bison
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what about for the water types

agile lava
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pex is fine yea

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type stacking is ok

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in sv

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the dex is small

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and things do different shti

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like ull see multple grounds on a same team too

dense bison
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sv meta feels whack tbh but im committed

agile lava
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agreed

dense bison
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im so used to building around type coverage instead of utility role coverage

agile lava
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its cuz back then

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in like

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gen8

dense bison
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i skipped gen 8

agile lava
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u could have as many roles as u need

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or gen7

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and still have a wide enough variety

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to maximize coverage as well

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but this gen is like ....

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ull see a lot of type stack

dry edge
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I like how triple dark

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Is rather common

gloomy bluff
proven hare
agile lava
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ngl i have no clue how to build e terrain

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ask vertex if u see him on ps

ruby crest
agile panther
proven hare
ruby crest
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Outside of the fact you rely on leaves and worn from being demolished by grounds

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Tho not much you can really change fwiw

proven hare
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Yeah

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Maybe Juglis over Gambit?

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Gambit is solely there for checking Pult

ruby crest
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I like gambit here

proven hare
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Or Flying Gambit maybe

ruby crest
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Na you want tera fire cause volc is annoying

proven hare
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Actually now that you say it, Tusk with Knock and Fighting coverage does seems like an issue

ruby crest
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Like I get you want to make the most of e terrain

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You just leave yourself vulnerable to mighty tusk and chomp

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Hell even a ting lu has a field day

ruby crest
night zodiac
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Mainly because I've been worried about Walking Wake as well as opposing Iron Valiant, and not having a ground immunity

solemn gazelle
sly mauve
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sly mauve
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cheempao ?

dry edge
# sly mauve https://pokepast.es/2cda82d29ef385d9 Balance, built around clodnacl, plan of kee...

We can try Leftovers on Garganacl to help with the longevity. Curse > Earthquake and Tera Fairy/Water seems nice since it lets you contest physical setup sweepers that might overwhelm the team such as Roaring Moon, Dragonite, and SD Iron Valiant

Spikes > Toxic Spikes on Clodsire since the former are way more useful overall. Try Careful nature instead of Calm, since the latter reduces Earthquake's power.

Oh Gholdengo you can try Timid instead of Modest. The latter is slower than Timid Dragapult which can defo be annoying.

If going with a Black Glasses / Tera Dark Kingambit it might be wroth going max Speed instead of max HP to ease the mu against Skeledirge and Corviknight

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In general work on the teras. Seems like all of them except Garganacl's are the base types. Have you tried any others?

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For example you are rather weak to Volcarona, so something like Tera Fire Kingambit could help (in which case max HP works well)

thin gorge
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https://pokepast.es/e527da51bde90fd6 Hi! I started some SV OU and I attempted to build a team around one of my favorite Pokemon Gallade. Are there any changes I can make to this team to improve it without removing Gallade?

ionic crag
fallow garden
ruby crest
fallow crag
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Could also see a shout for phys def great tusk

sly mauve
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I'm thinking like, electric for Valiant, fighting for goldengo, idk the reat

dry edge
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Tera Ghost is fine yeah, also helps spinblock so thats nice

sly mauve
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So thats neat

dry edge
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Yeah its also way safer since it doesn't fear Earthquake

sly mauve
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It only fears like
Iron jugulis idk
Alot of our darks are physical iirc

dry edge
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You can do Tera Steel on Tusk. The reason I brought up a different tera on Garg was to better check Roaring Moon in particular since the team is a bit weak to it

sly mauve
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Pretty sure my good ol benergy val can solve that dillema

dry edge
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But with Steel Tusk it seems better, so we can keep Tera Ghost on Garg

dry edge
sly mauve
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Maybe flying for king?

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Or any fighting resist

dry edge
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Remember Roaring Moon is naturally faster than Valiant, so it outspeeds Booster Energy after a Dragon Dance

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Whatever tera is fine. I did mention Fire cause Volcarona seems scary

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Fire is also immune to burns and since you resist Fire you are also able to go for bulk instead of Speed, since you dont fear Skeledirge as much

sly mauve
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cheempao so which one, first you say invest speed on gambit then you revert

rain gyro
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rain gyro
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Oh wait you're in the middle of smtg

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Mb finish this one then move to mine LMAO

dry edge
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I meant like

If you go a more offensive tera like Dark or Flying, then go max Speed since it helps vs Skeledirge and Corviknight.

If you decide on Tera Fire which helps vs Volcarona, then you can go for max Bulk instead since you dont fear Skeledirge

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Up to you to decide

surreal bloom
sly mauve
dry edge
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And yeah Dondozo is a bit of an odd choice there

rain gyro
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Hmmmm

dry edge
rain gyro
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I slapped dozo in on early states of the team lmao

rain gyro
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Just wondering

dry edge
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Clodsire

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Also hits Pex and Amoonguss

sly mauve
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And uhh

Gholdengocheempao

What's his Tera

rain gyro
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Wait you're right

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Hmmm

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So psychic tera too?

dry edge
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Think you mentioned Fighting on Gholdengo right? Thats fine

rain gyro
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Because Electric tera with no tbolt is sus

dry edge
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You can try tera fairy

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On Valiant

rain gyro
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Fair

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And what do you rec instead of dono?

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Dozo

sly mauve
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Aw heck I forgot a Tera for clodsire

Probably fairy or watercheempao

dry edge
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Or also Tera Steel

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Just cause Steel is nice defensively

sly mauve
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Tru

dry edge
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Oh we getting mixed up, I was talking about Steel for Valiant lmao

rain gyro
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I figured lol

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Steel seems nice on a screens team

dry edge
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Yeah. This set is pretty popular rn. Steel turns its weaknesses around.

rain gyro
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Fair point

dry edge
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Mmm not sure what Tera can be fine for Clodsire. All are fine tbh

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Well not all rather, there are a lot like

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Fairy is neat, it +Water Absorb completely takes on Walking Wake. Tera Dark resists Shadow Ball

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Whatever you choose there should be fine

rain gyro
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Setsu what's good over dozo btw

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Idk im thinking dirge, volc, ghold i have too many ideas lmao

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Azu too idk lmao

sly mauve
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Why does clodsire care about shadow ball

dry edge
dry edge
rain gyro
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honestly

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if my opinion is worth something

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tera clod does not exist lmao

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but most people like to run tera ghost to stop spinners

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in very rare cases

past night
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Hey I don’t think I got a rating for my team that I posted a few weeks ago and would love some feedback

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Currently stuck in the 1550’s, love the team but willing to substitute toxapex and Sandy Shocks if someone can think of a better alternative

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Not the greatest example but heres how the team plays out

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|| I swap out sucker for knock off sometimes for Meow ||

fallow crag
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I feel like you need a defined wincon on the team

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And while triple trick is funny, at a certain point you get diminishing returns on it

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I'd just go for booster cm valiant

night zodiac
past night
sly mauve
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Gimme a team

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Post your team so I can copy it

fallow crag
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I like taunt a lot rn

past night
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Taunt could be cool instead of trick

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Kinda does the same thing of preventing set ups

sly mauve
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Aura for steels and psyshock for clodsirecheempao

past night
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I’m gonna say no to that set

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Clod isn’t an issue and aura is way to weak I’m pretty sure close combat is still stronger

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Clod can be taken care of with Sandy Shock Meowska and corv and any trick

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Thank you tho for the help

sly mauve
past night
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Very fat team

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The slowking assault vest tho

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Modest tho y?

sly mauve
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Might change off of modest I I mostly did it for extra damage and I needed something that could take on WW sun that wasnt another fat wall like clod

sly mauve
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ionic crag
sly mauve
thin gorge
ruby crest
# ionic crag Why tera water and dragon pulse over tera blast for wake, that particular movese...

Tera water boosts it’s most powerful attack and be used defensively as well can you can also do tera dragon, dragon pulse alternative dragon stab move outside of draco, the moveset for hatt is more supportive you ain’t killing stuff and you want hwing to let something else in the team to get another chance, it’s up to preference but Bu edge last longer and overall more consistent wincon tho you can stay sash, let’s you play longer and not waste edge

ionic crag
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by changing my wake set to specs and fixing the evs i am getting the benefits of specs and scarf right?

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under harsh sunlight

ruby crest
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Kinda yeah

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You have the power of specs still

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But you get speed boosted under sun

sly mauve
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@ruby crest

sly mauve
ionic crag
ruby crest
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Fwiw hatt ain’t staying love enough you want a powerful psychic as well as spdef drop can be nice, and you ain’t staying healthy for much of the match that will make good use of dkiss

ionic crag
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What about special walls that can exploit hatt?

ruby crest
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There’s not much even then hatt ain’t really lasting long anyways maybe switch into a move it can take to make use of eject batt or dissuade some hazards and hwing

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Your not using this thing to break but use of its supportive move pool for its Allie’s

sly mauve
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Dang

main surge
thin gorge
ionic crag
main surge
ruby crest
ionic crag
ruby crest
ruby crest
ionic crag
ruby crest
ionic crag
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Why ice spinner on tusk?

ruby crest
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its to hit dnite which can be annoying when not tera

ionic crag
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Then I would lose a way to remove hazards

ruby crest
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You have Torkoal

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Your fine

ionic crag
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Torkoal is weak to rocks and is too slow so might get ko’d before it spins

subtle rose
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u dont need to reliably remove

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rocks every single time

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  • u have a mbouncer
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  • ur running offense
ionic crag
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What rocks setter are there where running rapid spin isn’t necessary

subtle rose
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its not bc

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bulky mons like ting and defensive chomp cant rock on hatt

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and tusk even if it does a lot to hatt ejects it out and wake gets a kill or smth

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and u can always setup ledge early before rocks eventually go up

ionic crag
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And close combat plus Tera fighting on ceruledge to resist kingambit and reliably check it garg without tera?

subtle rose
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cc is just good offensive stuff yeah

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u smash gambit and ting that tries to ww u and stuff like that

ruby crest
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ngl i prefer bu edge fwiw

ionic crag
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Why bulk up

subtle rose
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on sun its sd or none imo but

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bu taunt is the better set in general

ruby crest
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ye

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tho this could also be lo volc...

subtle rose
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yeah

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i would do that

ruby crest
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also if your concerned from hazards

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ace works too

subtle rose
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pussy mon but ok

ionic crag
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Why

subtle rose
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personal pref

ionic crag
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Ok so I’ll test out my new team on ladder first then we’ll see what to do next

ruby crest
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really the first given 5 are staples for sun last one is up to what you want to use, its all preference at the end of the day sun is sun not much you can do with it

thin gorge
wanton root
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@ruby crest worrywhirl

sly mauve
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Mfw iron mons team and some decidueyecheempao

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wanton root
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This is not ou lol

dapper slate
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im still trying to figure things out. My bad, im new to all of this

wanton root
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Just select ou as the format in builder

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That automatically sets the restrictions

dapper slate
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ooooohhhhh okay tyyyy

empty mantle
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You can try to make your own teams but sample stuff is easier to use

dapper slate
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will do , ty !!

sly mauve
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I’m using black sludge bisharp

empty mantle
muted dirge
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What does that accomplish

surreal bloom
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Ctc classic

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for trick rotom

empty mantle
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Or ring target

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daring violet
daring violet
daring violet
grizzled scarab
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like 1 physical wall and a sp def wall ping back for when goin to rate

empty mantle
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(Walking wake is a bitch)

grizzled scarab
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oo

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things changed alot sincei frist played

empty mantle
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Also what’s with Tera bug on Ceruledge

empty mantle
grizzled scarab
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and rock and flying arent that common

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attackin types

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  • tera bug is good agaisnt great tusk sort of
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since resists both of stabs

empty mantle
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Anyways besides that corv apparently sucks hard this Gen so maybe run great tusk if you’re using it for hazard removal

empty mantle
empty mantle
grizzled scarab
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tell me what flying and rock attackers are common

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garg is purely defenisve

empty mantle
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And coverage exist

grizzled scarab
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what mons are running rn flying coverage

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and rock

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if is only roaming moon doesnt really sond that bad

empty mantle
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Lemme check

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-corv can run brave bird
-garchomp can run stone edge
-glimmora can run power Gen
-roaring moon

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That’s it actually so you can probably add a non corv steel type

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Like gholdengo

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Orthworm

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Or kingambit

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@grizzled scarab

grizzled scarab
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i havee already gholdengo

empty mantle
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Oh you already have all of that lmao

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You can probably replace corv with great tusk then 3 steels is kinda overkill

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Also probably run SD over bulk up more immediate power imo but it’s up to you

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Yeah you’re team is actually fine then just replace corv with great tusk @grizzled scarab

grizzled scarab
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alr then

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i just tried using ublk up so it wont be frail physically

empty mantle
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What’s the speed investment for them

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I presume for walls

grizzled scarab
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yea

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outspeeding

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some

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also i think i can outspeed even corv

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with this

empty mantle
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But still I see why you have speed investment

grizzled scarab
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more bulk better

empty mantle
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Very cool “we have annilape at home” build

grizzled scarab
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low budget annilhape

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Unsure though what set would i run on great tusk

empty mantle
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It’s really do whatever you want lol just use the set that works best with your team

grizzled scarab
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ig ill go offensive

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alhough a defensive would live more

winter steppe
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I just feel like it would appreciate a strong water attacker

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maybe im overthinking it, but if theres any general advice id like to hear it

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that or fire coverage

winter steppe
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hes more of a bulky pivot though

empty mantle
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Granted you need spatk investment but it has great utility and pairs well with Bax

winter steppe
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ill think on it

edgy bluff
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rate my team

sly mauve
stone onyx
sly mauve
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there

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i added hatterene

empty mantle
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Anyways many issues

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Do not the band

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Hatterene using eject is fine but I prefer cm stored power

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The indeedee set should run healing wish and terrain extender

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Horo is fine but I would rather use a dark resist as your scarfer

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And I recommend replacing aura sphere with destiny bomb

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Bond

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@sly mauve

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Also I’m iffy on dragapult but I could see a bulky d dance set working thanks to its already godly speed stat

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Dragapult @ Life Orb
Ability: Infiltrator
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 224 HP / 120 Atk / 164 Spe
Lonely Nature

  • Dragon Dance
  • Dragon Darts
  • Phantom Force
  • Tera Blast
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Like this

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Maybe sash instead of lo but item is flexible

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Or lum berry

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stone onyx
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tspike + wo-chien, thoughts/changes?

sly mauve
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i replace horo with scarf gallade and did all the other changes

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empty mantle
sly mauve
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it isnt

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i got 3 fucking turns of sleep on my poltergeist letting their bax clean

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no matter what team i use my luck will be shit

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Bro sub dirge is fun

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Being able to just tera, sub infront of a garganacl and win off of torch song and slack off feels good

empty mantle
thin gorge
empty mantle
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Sd lo

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Dragapult @ Life Orb
Ability: Infiltrator
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 224 HP / 120 Atk / 164 Spe
Lonely Nature

  • Dragon Dance
  • Dragon Darts
  • Phantom Force
  • Tera Blast
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And I recommend a DD set more akin to this

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Besides that pretty standard team

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Oh yeah if you switch to SD run ice spinner

thin gorge
empty mantle
thin gorge
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ok

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how do i play against hatt?

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im assuming just use pult

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is there anything i need to change in regards to great tusk

empty mantle
gleaming willow
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I need help building a hyper offensive team involving zoroark

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Can anyone help or is this place for finished teams only?

surreal bloom
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finished teams I think

gleaming willow
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Where can I get help building one

surreal bloom
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#comp-general

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ruby crest
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He did just say ice shard

proven hare
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Oh

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Missed that

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Actually Taunt over what

ruby crest
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Tho I would do things differently

proven hare
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Like?

fallow crag
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Set is moonblast/shadow ball/taunt/cm

ruby crest
# proven hare Like?

I agree with the Val but would also do tera grass giga volc, meow > Glimmora, and orthworm/ tusk > dnite also hdb on gambit

proven hare
ruby crest
# proven hare Mind explaining all that?

Meow is self explanatory gives you some knock support early on, good way to pressure off tusk and spikes I like it more as a lead mon these days then Glimmora, you don’t need wisp here on volc fwiw you aren’t that weak to things you would be using it to hit and the additional coverage helps it instead of being mono fire, boots on gambit gives it better longevity since you really won’t have something to remove hazards, tho fwiw the last one you can still keep dnite

proven hare
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May be rough vs Corv and Rotom-W

ruby crest
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Corv I wouldn’t be to concerned

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I do agree with washer can be somewhat annoying

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You can do sub pult for wash

proven hare
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Over Dnite?

ruby crest
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If you do want rocks there’s always orthworm

ruby crest
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Either or is fine

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You can def mess with both and see which one you prefer

proven hare
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Sub, DD, Phantom, Darts

ruby crest
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Ye

proven hare
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Tera Dragon or Ghost?

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And Lefties as item

ruby crest
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Lefties I prefer tera dragon

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You also play mind games against other gambits

proven hare
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Yeah

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Sounds fun

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Thanks bro

ruby crest
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Anytime

thin gorge
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hello, I started building a new team bcs my previous team wasnt my style. https://pokepast.es/9ebf8f528c710361 is there any ways i can improve this team? im thinking abt replacing volc with smth

gleaming willow
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Hyper offense team

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I haven't played in like a year

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Don't really know much about the meta

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I do want to keep zoroark tho cause he's fun to use

ruby crest
thin gorge
ruby crest
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Basically it seems somewhat out of the place like the chosen mons just don’t fit together

ruby crest
thin gorge
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probably just the pex

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i like the idea

ruby crest
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Hmm eject pex interesting

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Just realized the changes I would’ve done are the same of that of a sample team…

thin gorge
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what were they gonna be?

ruby crest
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Make this bulky tusk, wisp volc, pult > cinderace, corv > hatt, gambit > moon, and make this spdef pex

thin gorge
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oh alr

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so wait what is the sp.def pex evs

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and defensive bulky tusk or like av?

ruby crest
thin gorge
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ah

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then is it possible to create a new team instead of using pex but that roaring moon set instead

sly mauve
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I like you have a cupcake @thin gorge

thin gorge
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oh lmao thx

ruby crest
thin gorge
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ahh

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ok

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so what pokemon should i use on my team if i were to use that moon set

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the jaw lock one

ruby crest
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I don’t think jaw lock is good these days it’s use standard dd crunch acro quake or cb

thin gorge
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oh

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ok

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if i wanted to build a team competent in the current meta, which mons do you think would be strong to start with

ruby crest
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Rn I would say mons like pult, volc, gambit, iron val are good to start with

thin gorge
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alr

thin gorge
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for a sun team, is a team with torkoal, banded moon, wake, gastro, bulky tusk, and bulky volc okay?

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# thin gorge if i wanted to build a team competent in the current meta, which mons do you thi...

Depends on what archetype you want to build but id go

Walls
Corviknight
Ting lu
Skeledirge
Dondozo
Clodsire
Toxapex
Rotom wash
Phys def hatterene
Garganacl

Swords (take hits and dish them out)
Great tusk
Kingambit
Also skeledirge
Dragonite
Gholdengo
Walking wake
Quaquaval

Utility (not really damage dealers or great at taking hits but have great utility)
Orthworm
Iron treads
Glimmora
Due to typing torkoal

Spears (full on offense)
Iron valiant
Roaring moon
Dragapult
Hydreigon
Meowscarada

There are more but these are just examples of what I could think of on the top of my head.

subtle rose
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bro just

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listed some random terms

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k

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"swords and spears may kill my pokemon but THE PENGUINO will not"

surreal bloom
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swords and spears

unique rampart
ruby crest
sly mauve
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team based on my violet team

thin gorge
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but ye ill try switching volc to offensive but i kinda like the wisp support against set up mons

ruby crest
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Gastro is so random

surreal bloom
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garg ptsd

thin gorge
# ruby crest Gastro is so random

lmao its to counter wake but like idk. so since i have defensive tusk shud i run defensive hatt or do you have another set in mind. i think ill make volc offense though

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also if volc isnt good as a flex do you have a better flex in mind. i dont want this team to be an exact copy of another popular one so im being kinda aware of that

ruby crest
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Gastro is not good on sun kills so much momentum

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Volc is a good flex

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If anything is one of the more common last mons on sun

thin gorge
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do you have a hat set that would go good with a sun team like mine

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also what moves and evs should i run on volc

thin gorge
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i use gholdengo to counter faries like hat

dry edge
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Try to play with the Walking Wake and Gholdengo teras

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Like Fairy and Dragon are also alr on WW

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The team is rather weak to Hydreigon so ya, Fairy on Walking Wake might be the move

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This version is really slow though

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You usually want either Walking Wake or Roaring moon to get Proto Speed

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Dragapult can already be annoying and no Proto Speed makes it even more more so

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i built like this for bulk and status spam

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but i get no mileage off of entry hazards without knock off or a spinner

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and most solutions i lose out on defensive coverage

thin gorge
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also i kinda struggle with tspikes

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it really wears down my team

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is there any way i can change my mons to have an easier time?

surreal bloom
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also go epack on hatt

dry edge
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The hatt can be either leftis or eject button yeah, both are fine

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Boots on Tusk could help with Tspikes

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I dont really like boots defensive tusk, but you can try and see how it goes

thin gorge
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ah

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ok

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how do i deal with wake

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lol

dry edge
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ya not much to do with wake other than pivot around it

thin gorge
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ah ok

dry edge
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so you pivot around with Hatt and your own WW

thin gorge
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alr

royal nebula
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https://pokepast.es/debebb820e583624 This is basically my first attempt at building a competitive team, and i'm having some success in low ladder(won 7 matches out of 8 i played) The last mon was Dondozo with rest body press liquidation sleep talk and unaware tera grass heavy duty boots, but it was never doing much more than taking a few hits nobody else wanted business with but it never did much outside of pivoting, so i was thinking of adding something else, probably amoonguss. Any suggestions on who i should add, and if i should change something on the mons i already have?

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I have decided to return OU from random battles fun, maybe try climb seriously and i've had some success in games i've played with this team (tried to return my roots on balanced playstyle)

But i feel like team is lacking something (maybe coverage or something else)

at end i also put some pokemons i've been thinking would be worth to consider adding in replacing some pokemons (like froslass with hisui zoroark or swapping someone out for spinner)

https://pokepast.es/ac296ef32764801a

sly mauve
royal nebula
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I'll keep it in mind, altho i liked the idea of tricking scarf on some mons

stone onyx
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not sure how i feel ab greninja; also worried about baxcalibur and clodsire

thin gorge
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the problem is im struggling to get up many hazards because of the rate glimm is alive

copper fable
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https://pokepast.es/e95f27f3815e21b0

You know what, I've put off getting this rated for too long.
I don't even remember making this team, I just woke up in a cold sweat one morning and it was in my builder.
okay but seriously is this idea even salvageable.

agile lava
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but leaves is pretty bad

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even replacing it w something like eject pex would go a long way

earnest anvil
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instead of glimm

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can help with setup sweepers at full health by phazing them out

copper fable
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https://pokepast.es/e749247ca4457ae0 this is my team after that. is there anyway i can fit in some another good special attacking sweeper without taking out an important breaking mon?

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# thin gorge https://pokepast.es/e749247ca4457ae0 this is my team after that. is there anyway...

While I do like the concept of dragon spam I wouldn’t ideally want to run 4 dragons that’s just asking for a team to get steak rolled by iron valiant, replace roaring moon with volc, not sure if you even wanan go double hazards in screens since you have to waste valuable screen tunes or significantly weaken your ting lu which lowkey doesn’t fit on ho, so I would do booster energy rocks tusk instead

thin gorge
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alr

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im assuming full on offensive volc?

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is there any specific volt moveset that goes best

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also what does the booster tusk set look like

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ive never seen it b4 lol

ruby crest
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Offensive volc is just standard flame giga tera blast ground

thin gorge
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alr

ruby crest
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Actually na just make this lead meow instead of tusk no rocks yea

thin gorge
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ok so spikes meow?

ruby crest
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Yeah

thin gorge
ruby crest
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What does the ev on dnite do?

thin gorge
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idk lmao, im pretty sure it was bcs bulky dnite plus roost or smth idk what i was tryna do

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should i get rid of it?

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and swap it with smth like this

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Dragonite @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Multiscale
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Dragon Dance
  • Extreme Speed
  • Earthquake
  • Roost
ruby crest
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Yeah

thin gorge
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if i wanted to try out booster tusk, do you have a set for it?

ruby crest
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Just booster energy duel stab knock spin/ ice spinner

thin gorge
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ah and offensive evs?

ruby crest
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Max attk max speed

grand sandal
proven hare
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@ruby crest

ruby crest
ruby crest
proven hare
ruby crest
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No yeah you can keep it

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It’s fine as it is like I said just make gambit tera fire

thin gorge
stone onyx
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i also replaced gren w AV azu, to check bax i felt like a bulky variant would be nice with max hp; i didnt want to do belly drum for longevity and i didnt want to do cb because i already had floatzel as a banded mon

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it also helps w psychic terrain ho because ice spinner + aqua jet helps a lot with that match up

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this is it now

ruby crest
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Not sure how azu improves against psy terrain, Beatric is a mediocre Mon no matter what trying to lure a Mon that is already dying out, also fwiw rain is an offensive mu you are going to be weak to some stuff which you are better to cope and make better use of offensive mons like the gren was good if anything

thin gorge
stone onyx
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bu corv sounds interesting, i might try it

ruby crest
ruby crest
proven hare
proven hare
ruby crest
proven hare
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???

ruby crest
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Answer

proven hare
ruby crest
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I meant your iron Val answer is non existent

proven hare
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Oh ok

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Maybe I go for a more bulky Gambit

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Also, Rotom-W has done well vs it so far

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Takes a hit and paras it

ruby crest
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No cap you might want to try amoong somewhere in here

proven hare
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Amoong on Offense?

ruby crest
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This is more more of a bo tbh even then you could also do eject button

velvet path
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help pls

languid mirage
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honestly looks pretty solid

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taunt meow could potentially disrupt a little but you can pivot to volc or if need be bax

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u can go spdef tera fairy rotom

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and tusk > roaring moon

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id also suggest pult > gengar but idk if u wanna keep it

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well

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actually

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u dont needcorv

limpid nova
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as long as I can keep gengar I will change everything else

agile lava
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corv and rotmo do the same thing basically

limpid nova
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Idk why my rotom evs are like this wtf

agile lava
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so id drop corv for tusk

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and then change moon to a pult

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and spdef rotom

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and u shud be fine

limpid nova
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physical pult?

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well if I get tusk ig I wouldn't need it

limpid nova
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proto speed wake still cripples my team pretty hard if he tera's water but I guess I just pray for proto spAtk lol

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oh wait I didn't recalc with spDef Rotom

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Ye that could work for sure

jagged linden
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thoughts on this psychic terrain team ?

velvet path
languid mirage
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honestly you should be good, just something to play around i guess

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i'd personally change rotom tera type to steel so it walls it better

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shrewd flax
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CB tusk team, seems pretty solid so far

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Peaked 1500s

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(Not a big accomplishment but whatever)

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Garg and Gren are the 2 biggest problems, but neither are unmanageable

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Rain sucks though

fallow crag
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I think I'd go more phys def on ting lu

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Helps with rain and also your kingambit matchup

shrewd flax
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Alr thx

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So any spread specifically or just max

fallow crag
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Everything else seems fine

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Uhh

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Let me find spread

shrewd flax
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Thx a lot

fallow crag
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252 HP / 16 Def / 240 SpD Impish nature

shrewd flax
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Alr thx

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sly mauve
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Yeah slowking is just nah

sly mauve
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Haha I forgor

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Who sets it better

proven hare
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Go Spikes on Ting Lu

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Although you have no remover

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So I think Tusk over Ting Lu is better

ruby crest
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Man this lowkey looks like it wants to be that cb baxc sample

proven hare
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Every team ends up being similar to a sample

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lmao

ruby crest
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Truee…

sly mauve
ruby crest
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Well you have a king and garg can also function as one

sly mauve
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I guess

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Slowking kinda sucks tho
cheempao
Imo

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He's uu for a reason

ruby crest
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Slowking is not bad

sly mauve
ruby crest
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Give me a sec

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Make this tera dragon bax eq > iron head, psyshock > aura on valiant, physdef rocks tusk, bulky tera fire gambit with lefties, and covert amoong > garg

chilly zealot
sly mauve
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Uh

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He head eq AND iron headcheempao

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*has

proven hare
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Go shard in that case

ruby crest
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Oh did not see eq but yeah it should be shard

sly mauve
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Wait why does amoonguss need cloak

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Also I'm keeping the shades on kambitclef

ruby crest
sly mauve
ruby crest
ruby crest
sly mauve
rough pecan
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Time to have a whole team with six stealth rock users

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Because stealth rock is a move with "zero" design flaws

ruby crest
rough pecan
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Actually no, I'm gonna run a mono AV team

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What are some good AV users?

sly mauve
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*player

rough pecan
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Yeah

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Fr fr

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Trying to find some good AV users, though

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And then just flooding my team with them

sly mauve
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"Fix gambit evs" to????

ruby crest
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The one on analysis

rough pecan
chilly zealot
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I prefer Arma as a Win Condition Stored Power sweeper, but I’m taking your word for pex

chilly zealot
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is tspikes better than toxic? or should i use bunker

ruby crest
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I like toxic tho you also can mess with tspikes if you like i

muted dirge
ocean ledge
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run tera fairy on clod so you can check wake on your own

muted dirge
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244 SpA Choice Specs Walking Wake Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Clodsire: 222-262 (47.9 - 56.5%) -- 89.1% chance to 2HKO
Possible damage amounts: (222, 225, 228, 231, 232, 235, 238, 241, 243, 246, 249, 252, 253, 256, 259, 262) aah I see, I thought draco meteor would be Like around a 3-4hkoish type of range

ocean ledge
dry edge
agile lava
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why is there a clodsire

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just use

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hatt > clod

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and tera steel roaring moon

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and wisp cinderace

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over court change

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and use 200 def 56 speed on tusk

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200+ def

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whats eq for on moon?

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dry edge
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Maybe a Calm Mind Iron Valiant to help against fatter structures(?)

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The Volcarona is fine. I would rather go for the other popular spread on defensive which is 248 HP / 108 Def / 152 Spe

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Or ig it depends. What are you tyring to do with your spread? Iirc it lets you outspeed Roaring Moon and Cinderace at +1

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But with your moves thats not particularly useful. Flamethrower and Giga Drain wont do much too them at +1

edgy bluff
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psyshock for clodsire

edgy bluff
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should i swap out maushold for defensive dondozo i’m noticing now this team can take some damage from great tusk and some other mons

ruby crest
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Dondonzo is just random and a momentum sink in ho

dry edge
edgy bluff
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focus miss but alright

dry edge
edgy bluff
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alright

dry edge
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Ya you can try Taunt nw, both are fine

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Taunt + Moonblast + Psyshock with Tera Flying is like, extremely good vs fat teams

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With Focus Blast smth else like Tera Steel is cool too

edgy bluff
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alright i’ll try with focus blast for now

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thanks

dry edge
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gl^^

grand sandal
languid mirage
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i think its pretty weak to psyspam, especially as 5/6 of your members lose to armarouge

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i think you could swap out iron moth for a different pokemon

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maybe something like DD dragonite?

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or you could make meow sash so u live a hit then revenge

sly mauve
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Never in my life have I ever seen screens iron Valiant

languid mirage
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lmao

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honestly neither have i

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but i feel like i hadnt seen screens pult until not too long ago either

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who knows

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pult pivots though so it works

sly mauve
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Yeah screens pult works

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But screens valiant? Nah

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Valiant just kills shit and chews bubblegum

dusty sonnet
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just made this team and it turns out palafin is banned, what should i replace it with? also if you guys got any other critism

languid mirage
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well it looks like a rain team, so a strong staple that i recommend is floatzel

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otherwise your team isnt really benifiting from the weather effect

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is this for singles by the way?

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you dont need protect on every mon

dusty sonnet
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Its for doubles

muted dirge
real willow
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#1059655497587888158 #1059704283072831499

fallow crag
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This channel is for singles

dusty sonnet
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Ohhh, im stupid I thought this was doubles

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agile lava
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i don’t think so

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noivern is pretty garbage

agile lava
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it outspeeds max speed chomp at +1

thin gorge
agile lava
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dragapult could be good here if ur interested

thin gorge
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what pokemon should I include on a team with slowking and tusk core

agile lava
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cinderace is a good pick, but not choice scarf

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boots is much better

thin gorge
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ok

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got it

thin gorge
agile lava
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tusk ace king pult + ghost resist + ground resist

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and ur good

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wellu dont even need

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a ground resist

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could do a lot

thin gorge
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ok

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what set should i run on pult?

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wisphex?

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and for the ghost resist is kingambit a good choice?

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or meowscaradas

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bcs it functions as a ground and ghost resist

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in one

agile lava
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wisp hex and gambit is good

sly mauve
#

Sup KD

thin gorge
agile lava
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i think red card amoonguss might be nice here

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to help u vs ho

thin gorge
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ooo ok

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im going to run defensive amoonguss

sly mauve
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Sup KD

thin gorge
agile lava
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looks good to me

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might as well go

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max speed kingambit for

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unless 60 evs is something specific

thin gorge
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alr

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done

agile lava
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80 atk

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on pult

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rest in spatk

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and 56 speed tusk

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200+ defence

thin gorge
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ok

thin gorge
agile lava
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ye

thin gorge
#

alr

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any tera types i need to change?

agile lava
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nope

thin gorge
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alr ty

sly mauve
#

Sup KD @agile lava

agile lava
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yo

hoary heart
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wanted to build with Specs Pelipper and have double hazard control to support it

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Kingambit and Dragonite are just sweepers after Peli weakens everything, works out pretty well since Peli comes in on all 3 Unaware mons and can threaten a KO on pretty much anything in the tier

green citrus
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Major threats i can think of to this are dd bax and subwisp pult

hoary heart
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pult is a threat to every team 😭

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yea i forgor sr

muted dirge
green citrus
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I do think dnite can be dropped for smth tho

hoary heart
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Ya maybe

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I had sd water valiant but

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It just wasn’t being that guy

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Dnite at least gives a ground immunity

proven hare
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Coz rain abusers are so good

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Speed and power both

hoary heart
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well im not damp rock

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and peli has been amazing by itself

proven hare
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If it works for you

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Cool

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I just find swift swimmers to be so strong

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That I never want to leave them out

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That being said

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Specs Peli is always underrated

surreal bloom
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cooly

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just pex looks weird here

hoary heart
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need tspikes absorber :(

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had amoonguss and it was very bad

thin gorge
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what pokemon would be good on a team with gholdengo, tusk, pex, gambit, valiant bcs im currently looking for the last slot rn

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btw my valiant is a phys set, so i only have one special attacker. thinking of a pokemon that uses specs for the last slot

fallow crag
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Hey, please submit rates in pokepaste form

thin gorge
viral sableBOT
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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @agile lava, @daring violet, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

fallow crag
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Also, sorry for this, we only rate teams that are completed (says so in the rules). If you want help completing an unfinished team, I'd head over to #comp-general

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But I can tell you right now that that pex ain't it

thin gorge
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ok alr

thin gorge
dry edge
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Fwiw worth version is also fine. Would rather run Substitute on Hydra instead of Draco or Dark Pulse.

From there just tweaks like, you dont need max Speed on Scream Tail. SpDef Dondozo might be better to not get overwhelmed by special attackers

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But ya when recreating a team better to ask for advice in #comp-general, since a rule of the RMT channel is to only ask for rates of your own teams

thin gorge
dry edge
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This is a sample in the ou room on PS. You can type in /rfaq s

thin gorge
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ohh ok

dry edge
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I believe they haven't been updated in forums, but should be later on

thin gorge
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ye i didnt know if the forums were updated with wake's release

timber sonnet
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I'm not very good at team building and this is my first SV team

viral sableBOT
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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @agile lava, @daring violet, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

muted dirge
fringe grove
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or change

shadow tapir
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Don't rate,but wtf are you going for?

ocean ledge
ruby crest
fringe grove
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sorry

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