#[DO NOT USE][ARCHIVED] SV OU Rates
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you're saccing an entire moveslot for a first turn thing that other mons can do better
why do you have a set up mon if you also want to go for a kill the first turn
its a useful move for banded mons or revenge killers, not ddancer sweepers that want to stay in
why do you want rid of moth
slap on a hazards mon somewhere
maybe a screens or orthworm if you really want to enable the ddancers
also does hax super need hdb
like I get it for spikes but a setup sweeper like hax won't be coming in and out of the battle
you could also use lum berry
ngl
defog corv is super unreliable
gholdengo
with gholdenjoe everywhere, corv is a sitting duck for it
you're better off with only hatterene as ur means of anti-hazards
sure
looks good to me
unless faya wants something here to change
might have to watch out for pult
yeah
ok
unless its band, tbut then that's banded tusk
alright
then you were also saying iron moth was not something you liked?
seems like it's your volc check
I should build new teams
moth is like the only pokemon on your team that can dish out immediate damage without having to set up
if moon comes in you can't really switch it out without wasting the booster energy, while moth can repeatedly come in and out
Can't say I'm a big fan of this
i think fast mons benefit from shed tail
and smth like moth or washtom is a little too slow paced
actually now that i look at the team its kinda split weirdly between ho and bulky offense
yeah but its hyper offense w/ a washtom.....
also if we're talking about
immediate danger
dragapult
clicks buttons
and completely ignores ur sub
and u cannot stop it
so

yeah i mentioned it
yeah I almost want to lean more into bulk for this team
honestly this team is going to be flawed no matter what because in the end of the day two dragaon types that arne't the fastest in a meta with pult and valiant being top tier mons is going to cripple you heavily
especially since they rely on grabbing ddances
https://pokepast.es/217d75ff6a6aa1ca
I also want to retrofit this team, or at least take ideas from it for the post-pao meta
not a super big fan of nite and volc but I like specs valiant
I think I want to start w/ specs val, kingambit and great tusk and rebuild from there
and when that happens I'll come back here
https://pokepast.es/a2f9f2e916d257a1
this look solid in the builder?
why hurricane over espeed
rocks gambit is a waste of a gambit just put rocks on chomp
some1 in #comp-general said it hit val and tusk hard
a: tusk can't hit you back anyways unless its runing the pretty rare ice spinner
b: sure it'll hit val hard but the entire point of ddance dnite is espeed
it's tera fire
like replace dragon claw if you really awnt to hit val with hurricane
then you have better dancers and physical sweepers
I see
and your team is also just weak to val in general(also why not surpreme overlord on gambti)
Rocks chomp > spike chomp
SD over stealth rock on kingambit
Quax I would replace with rotom wash
I think on a previous team I had used rocks gambit bc it was my switch to gholdengo and I wanted to set rocks w/ it
but yeah now chomp can rock
Because you have to drop sd for it, your opponent will know immediately that they can be walled by a tusk
why the specific spdef
what does that outspeed?
Whatever hits 170 speed
CORVIKNIGHT
hatterene is dropped very easily by another common lead, glimm
a: the bigger problem is you have no hazard setter, and your lead is easily beat by a very common lead
b: if you want a hazard setter that still enables ho run worm
c: honestly you should probbaly have probably at least one more set up mon like idk calm mind valiant
This is my ou team
If any changes required (btw you can change Pokémon) please send

First glance i notice scarf on cinderace with sucker is a little goofy in my opinion. I’d rather run band on it or if u want scarf a different move like gunk shot would give u a lot more mileage against fairies
you have no hazard removal, yet you want to run nonboots cinderace
infiltrator on dragapult
might want wisp instead of wave on wash, and your reliance on choice items for damage might cripple you
If you still want ace, run boots
Swap one of your mons for a hazard remover like idk tusk
Maybe add a setup mon or change dozo to be the curse set but that’s up to you
I think rottom wash
Is useless
So wit should i replace it with
I am not replacing granacal
Boots loom is kinda bad you want like dice
Becuase its OP
You could swap it for like tusk
I rhink ill replace bloom
Beciawe its pretty frail
Because*
So any suggestions @spiral fable
Idk maybe volc
Volc
Yes
Defensive tusk
And?
Ok
Btw thakz dude
For helping
Nobody else bothers to give advice in other servers
You're a cool dude 😎
Np
https://pokepast.es/cc7e0943dd0e73a5 I didn't get feedback when I posted first time but I need help with this team. I'm doing okay with it but I don't have status except spore no switch moves or hazard removal but idk what to remove for it
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team looks p good, id give glim the lead set and go with mortal spin so you actually do have a spinner on the team which i think is needed. so p much go with spikes + mortal spin > power gem and energy ball. make chomp mix set, which is 252 Sp.Att, 252 Speed naive nature fire blast, draco meteor, eq, stealth rocks. go with nasty plot on dengo over thunderbolt for sure, if you want 3 attacks def go for focus blast for gambit switchins. everything else looks good maybe bulldoze > sd on loom but its fine to have SD
Alright thanks but ive vowed to never use focus miss ever again on any pokemon so I'll use nasty plot on dengo
Wait do I use sash on glim?
fair lmao, np is better imo, yeah i think so use focus sash so you're allowed to have a spinner. u can also go bulky glim
I hate moves without perfect accuracy I just lost with the team because garchomp missed draco meteor then 2 fire blast misses
Play Rough or Thunder Punch on Scarfed Meow
Im running flower trick knock and u turn alr
idk what else to run tho
https://pokepast.es/e45b3b37ae276ac3
thoughts? im pretty confident on this team
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i think the tera typing could be better though- i just looked on smogon what people run
so advice on that would be great, or any advice at all if possible
arboliva is such a good mon in ou
i love it so much
chilling water on pex, arboliva is kinda bad, same with ttar(especlaly that set)
i heavily recommend you use the ou sample teams until you have a solid grasp of the metagame, as half of your team isn't even ou, or viable
yeah i mostly just used my favorites, but i dont even know where to get the sample teams
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Hyper Offense/Offense
Masquerain Webs...
thank you 🙂
Hmm
would prob find more success
out of going lead meow
and replacing glimm and hatt
w kingambit
and something like offensive tusk
to give u some immediate breaking
also whats with the dnite spread
It’s for better mu vs ground tusk and meowscarda
Wdym by this
Leaf storm? Don’t you mean flower trick?
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"Stole it" how?
You might be breaking rule 5. Of this channel if the team's not yours
The only team I've been playing that's actually kinda good https://pokepast.es/b324aeac45a2edb1
I don't have any defogger/spinners atm
idk what value I get from Roaring Moon at this point like I have never used that mon
Until u take him off and u face triple skel gholdengo and pult
I EV mine to 369 attack on booster energy sets so I can get a speed boost on dragapult weak teams
Fair do u think its worth changing something for hazard removal
https://pokepast.es/83e54c4f53c77629
I've been having some success with this team (hanging around 1400 atm), thoughts?
Okay makes sense
ok, fair, BUT
wouldn't it be better to instead
put 31 ivs and then do a 248/8/252 build
edit: i'm stupid, i read 252 hp in azu
murder me
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Im looking for a 6th pokemon
My old set had dondozo for pao control
With this team I peaked 1.9
After chien pao ban
I got rid of dozo
Now I jus need a final member
Just confirming, this includes doubles ou right?
Hey, no there's a diff channel for DOU. (Sorry Idk how to link it :c but its called DOU rates)
Thank you
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https://pokepast.es/e4ef3d4f349304d1 making a new team, it feels really weak to hazards though. what would be the best way to tweak it for more effective hazard control and setting?
https://pokepast.es/02dd71e1e198cba1 this team i tried making
- non bulk up tusk, especially if it's your only source of hazard removal, should probably be bulky instead of 252 atk
- tera blast on scizor could probably be taken off for something like thief so you don't need to tera to break dirge or whatever
- bug buzz on volcarona is nearly worthless, run substitute instead to nullify toxic attempts and get heightened survivability. some spa investment is also good to make sure you can break pex and clodsire
- rotom has a weird set but i dont really know how useful it is so ill refrain from commenting
- your team will struggle a lot with handling common things like skeledirge, dragapult and volcarona even after these changes
the only things i could point out here is the extremely unorthodox garchomp set that i'm not too sure does well and that garganacl should probably be curse eq instead of sr protect, you might wanna change chomp to a life orb hazard setter or something
Oh thats a good idea, also if i may ask why use curse over iron defense?
what could I run to cover them?
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is this team good and what can i do to make it better
dont run taunt on a cb mon
is that it
theres probably more but that was just the first thing that stood out
what else is there
if you're building tusk can only do so much to keep the hazards off, especailly since its offensive with booster
why no aqua jet on floatzel
why low kick over say crunch
bit iffy on the pult set because really the only water types you're hitting with thunder all fear a specs meteor or pump anyways,a nd you're lacking uturn
corv's aight
amoonguss is alright
your lack of hazard prevention is going to be a major thorn in your side, if you don't sweep with the first rain assault
(also side note you're just completely and utterly walled by stall but idk if that's really something to worry about its relatively uncommon)
the issue is hazards are super prevelant in this metagame and keeping them off is always going to be a struggle, and relying on hazards being off to enable a mon that wouldn't really mind ditching scarf for boots anyways is going to severly limit your team building
and what does scarf ace even give you that other scarfers cant do better
https://pokepast.es/85ce4c3099008cb2
I think I came in here with this team earlier but I've used it on ladder and have made some adjustments
rmt
Could u help me with this
tbh looks mostly fine
i think u need
some speed control
so like double prio in espeed nite
fair
tera ghost sball val > tera elec tbolt imo
i think u need one of tera fire gambit or tusk to deal with qd mono wisp rona or just rona in general, could try bu tusk here but I think u need rocks as is
mayyyybe trick np dengo but meh
iron head > iron tail on gambit
I didn’t realise I gave gambit iron tail
Tera fire gambit right ?
What’s Rona again?
volcarona
Oh ok
matchup moth
Think I should do tusk tera fire for that
Ok now how do I fix dye go
She go
Dhengo
dengo is fine i think
yeah looks fine
Iron defense uses bp which does nothing to ghost types (gets walled by cloak gholdengo really hard), curse + salt cure hits everything
Team I gathered throughout the storyline. I used this in S/V singles and got to masterball tier :0.
I dont really use corviknight bc of the 3v3 setup but Dragonite, Gengar, Mimikyu and Kingambit are really solid picks
And I have skeledirge bc only psychopaths put their starters in the PC
https://pokepast.es/8845c1a045e31368 team I built
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thank you chatot bot
thinks this goes without saying but your team gets clapped by dark and ground types like moon and tusk
mimikyu can take them on but its not worth losing disguise just to stop 1 mon imo
corvi is a fine counter so id keep that
toxic doesnt really fit on a more offensive team like this
if you want a more threatening dbonder id go ceruledge, my personal choice for dbond
then swap dirge for val
so you have immediate power without relying on setup
also if you do run dirge it usually has unaware
(and ur missing 4 evs in it btw)
Mimikyu is bad and gengar gets outclassed
could anybody please help?
Consider moving to the BSS channel
as that covers 3v3
- give meowscarada choice band
- take gholdengo off for something else with covert cloak
- dondozo without curse or yawn is practically dead weight, i'd suggest spd skeledirge as a substitute
skeledirge so you can actually answer something defensively that isnt handled by gt (every special attacker)
whats gt
great tusk
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garg is fine
just replace glimmora w a water resist
rotomw prob ideal here
and change chomp to rocks spikes eq dtail
i think using glimmora with memento should probably go along a setup sweeper
also you dont really have much for curse garg
or sub volcarona
like a volcarona?
volcarona does not handle curse garg
https://pokepast.es/e387d8ecf410210d how is this?
Mainly struggle with garg
Not sure about washtom
https://pokepast.es/fe34da59e41f2cfd throws this at you and runs
yes i know it's a sample team
@ruby crest ^
ur ... why are you getting a sample team rated?
good point
Busy rn but yeah you wouldn’t want sample team rated that just defeats the purpose of asking for your own rate
i was gonna make an attempt to model something after it but laziness happened
yeah fair, go back to being busy👍
Hey, one of the rules of the channel is to only post your own teams. Please refrain from posting samples or someone else's team in the future
my bad, didn't know that one👍
can someone help me with this team? https://pokepast.es/94c638573d588075
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https://pokepast.es/7cff66f3ee971eaa any changes for this team?
this was a HO team i posted a while back but it had washtom, thought he didnt fit so i swapped for drago
https://pokepast.es/04ea8dd4c921fb35
should i have kept wash, keep draco, or go with something else
also lmk if theres anything else that i need to change
Walking Wake is too new to give proper feedback, but the Volcarona EVs are rather odd. What do they do? You can try standard EVs instead which are 152 Spe Timid, 248 HP and the rest on Def
wait I remembered the standard evs wrong oof
https://pokepast.es/fb78f81013584e2d thoughts
https://pokepast.es/4c07f5d04800e731 changed it a bit
alr thank u
I made two alts of the team https://pokepast.es/a81eea1f7f536a12
@daring violet
wait am I supposed to ping 💀
You could probably bait and remove ghost types/ghost attackers by having zoroark copy gholdengo
thanks man
Honestly team looks good even in this meta I would say team looks a bit nacl weak I would say opt to cloak over air balloon on dengo
I would say since you have no ground immunities maybe consider Tera flying on dengo
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Kinda new to SV OU
How's this rain team
As for the scizor EVs the best explanation for it is I'm still experimenting so I don't really have an explanation for it
Oh forgot to adjust my great tusk EVs, it's supposed to be max hp no spdef investment
Hey everyone
Tell me advice
This is my umm update on my old team
Btw the old team didn’t have any weakness except fairy
https://pokepast.es/c5ad26cbf6f2dd3d new team based on sun to tryout wake
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https://pokepast.es/4169f6fa0d0a1737
i've got a sun team that needs one more member, any ideas? i'm trying to go for hyper offense
https://pokepast.es/564d5b8e3678cdc1
sun with new walking wake, havent built in a while so any thoughts on this?
If it's HO u can try hat or hazard setter or screen setter or webs which I don't think is needed
there aren't any good web setters so im gonna try hat or hazards
244 spatk and rest on spdef
I'll experiment with an Assault Vest Glimmora, tweaking the Specs Set
In New suicune
whys that
I like Sash rocks Energy ball power gem each power
It will inc speed in sun
To outspeed pult and all
Adamant moon
oh i want the special attack raise, is speed better for this?
i recommend sawsbuck for speed control
i use it in my own sun team
and it's deceptively good
just don't band it, go for expert belt or life orb if you're feeling risky
Always good to have speed what's use of having much atk but getting one shot
true
But maybe u already have Lotta speed
Gold and moon
Get with sun
So this might also work
I rlly like water Absorb clod btw
@hazy plank could you check my team out
This one
And this one
K dude
and make corv rh
rh corv, focus blast dengo
make tork heat rock
Ceruledge seems fine Flash fire
otherwise fine
plz dont just advise ppl to add random mons…
Dude a random armoire sweeps him
Armourage
Volc ,moth??
Implemented
Rain team??
Most rona sets will lose to wake and rmoon
moth u just rk
rain is not rly a big deal w wake
😭
corvi is a defensive pivot and can help w the tusk weakness
Then there aren't defoggers and ground immunity
Oh that's a relief
https://pokepast.es/6115e461cd52632e how's this team? i ultimately decided on my last member being vest glim. also swapped clear smog for yawn on torkoal
also i added my dumb nicknames
it started off well and then the last 3 mons is uh
questionable
er
ace is fine
sawsbuck and glimmora are uh. not good fits here
sawsbuck is there for speed control and it's worked out so far, but what do you suggest?
its.. its a sawsbuck
should i just switch it for roaring moon or smth
if you want speed control you can change wake's EVs to +speed in sun
for proto
and rmoon is a normal fit on sun yea
anything, honestly
as far as set changes go:
torkoal:
spin -> body press
gtusk:
tera water
leftovers -> boots
wake:
flamethrower > protect
if you want +speed, you can make it lower spatk and make the speed stat higher then the spatk stat
garg is a little too slow, u want pivots and such
common options include eject button hatterene and such
gotcha
i think i'm gonna keep boots on gtusk in case of glim, i don't want my tusk getting poisoned
WAIT I HAVE ACE
NVM
im just stupid lol
hat's even slower though
but i'll try it
eject button allows u to go into the big hitters and hat can do bug damage
ohhh gotcha
for my last member im thinking either pult or rmoon, maybe dhengo
or some flying type for ground immunity
maybe dnite?
what do you think
yeah those all work
dhengo's the biggest maybe because in sun fire moves are stronger, but i need the fairy resist that can actually hit fairies back and that was originally AV Glim
rmoon's a good pivot but i have other options
pult's ALSO a good pivot but i have other options
and dnite gives the team some much needed bulk
AV glim gives me some utility in toxic debris and good coverage and can even surprise things like gtusk and grimmsnarl, and sun also dampens water with the notable exception of wake. it also eats tspikes
what do you think is best because i'm leaning just keeping AV Glim for now
rmoon is the most common one u see at high levels
alright, what set do you recommend because i wanna avoid choice items
yeah i was thinking orb band or even ebelt
yeah but with both wake and leaves on the rise i thought it’d be good
i also thought of using wish support in tail to help keep my frailer members alive
but i’ll try rmoon for now and see how it goes
leaves is fake
and wish passing doesnt
usually work
cuz u still have to switch the mon in to receive the wish
yeah
anyway i gotta drive home now and then i’ll do a few matches with rmoon and if it goes well i’ll let you know
cya
My team might have been skipped over
https://pokepast.es/7c8ebdc4699cf05a
Wait! Why 0 Att IVs?
https://pokepast.es/6e8512b0fbb44ec0 i updated it based on your advice
this is solid
0 atk ivs reduces confusion and foul play damage
OK thanks
did a few matches and i prefer dnite to rmoon, that bulk is invaluable
https://pokepast.es/c5ad26cbf6f2dd3d
Thoughts on new sun team?
why spikes on a choiced set
or stomping tantrum on a special scovillian set
might want flare blitz over eq on slither wing
Spikes are often used on choice Pokémon like meow as another example just to set them up on a switch. Scorvillian is running it for coverage, it's attack is boosted 2x by growth anyways.
u could mess around with
eject button
me when the sm gren in question
on the hatter
https://pokepast.es/be52cd09e85887f8 thoughts?
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https://pokepast.es/22ba3f23f68a7629 what think about this new team
Testing iron leaves
Hints why it don’t have a name
these never get any advice do they
i changed garganaci to spdef and wash to spdef also
also naci is tera water to beat golden joe
Id change some teras first; fairy rotom with twave is pretty nice rn. For physdef tusk water is super nice, for Curse Garg its nice to run tera water to beat dengo.
Id drop dondozo here, it kind of sucks the momentum out of this and just isnt a great mon rn (also triple water is pain)
Id make the meow boots and then maybe put a different fastmon over dondozo?
A lot of the raters are pretty busy people; myself excluded. I am simply trying my best to keep up with the meta rn as i have not had the chance this past two weeks
But a lot of those names do a lot of work elsewhere on forums, with sample teams, rating other tiers, playing in tours, etc
i already changed garg to tera water but what other mons should i replace dozo with
https://pokepast.es/f809e118180c916d an option to test
it was made before the chien pao ban and i wanted a chien check
https://pokepast.es/4ecbcdb7c4bce930 is it still too early to help with walking wake? if not could my team be rated
Id drop the last 2 for ceruledge and hatterene
Just kinda sun staples
Eject hatt
And maybe sash ceruledge
you could do curse dozo if its setup, or ting-lu
extreme solution would to run your own weather setter but thats unreasonable
looks like rn gastro is your edge counter, so whatever you do run i would replace that
why are you running gastro specifically
kinda an anti meta pick
also why tera normal on rouge, is it for ghosts?
run fairy on gastro
if you can explain why armarogue is better then literally any other mon, keep it. otherwise, drop it
im not sure how ledge is
beating wake
if ur that weak to it run tera fire or something
on wake
yeah thats
not exactly a great scarfer
may I get the sets as I am not sure if I remember eject hat and sash edge sets well
its uu for a reason....
no
Nah
on paper it already looks bad at revenge killing things
I am bad at remembering sets
use booster val or something
I will not, tyvm..
i'm not ur personal assistant, i don't really care if you succeed or not

use whatever you want
why sash edge if you don't mind me asking? what's the problem with volc as my fire?
i might try something like scizor in the future but this is working for now thank you
https://pokepast.es/f687c11022eeed72
I've tried it a few times and I haven't been feeling it, how do I fix my bad attempt at a Bulky Offense team?
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why is pex lefties?
isnt sludge always better?
Something about tht meow doesn't feel right
Taunt over turn and sash??
And y no protect on garg
If it Teras into a type other than poison (pretty bad for Pex) it loses 12% every turn
ohh
Boots spikes meow is pretty standard, band works too.
Also curse water garg is one of its strong sets, protect u only use if its your rocker
https://pokepast.es/0628ad9a4cc51cd0
Need help with this team! It struggles a lot with great tusk and unsurprisingly meowscarada.
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I see thx
Aaaand my team has gone through a whole lot of changes
https://pokepast.es/f16d00668940fe5c
Grim usually used in HO
Ah alr
you got nasty plot on a scarfer
I wanna try psyspam again
Haven’t touched it since Espathra was legal
What’s the replacement for Espathra?
flittle 
Tried to make a team with walking wake and i want to know how good it is
https://pokepast.es/b2b88040715db65d
having two fire weak pokemon in sun is pretty risky
its fine if you wanna keep it its just dangerous with so many things carrying fire coverage
does anyone have a set i could borrow for Zoroark-Hisui?
I use nasty plot, shadow ball, flamethrower, and uturn holding leftovers
im trying to build a HO team around it and its not going well
it goes extremly well with king though
it becomes a nasty guessing game of nasty plot or swords dance
Little ho team I just made: https://pokepast.es/7ddc58d450c63e9b
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been floating between 1700-1800 and really can't pin down what mon I want in the slot the iron valiant is, anyone have any suggestions? Had it as my designated scarf/special attacker but everything I have been trying there has not impressed me. Ideally something to lead with to beat meowscarada and/or hit neutral/+ on tusk / corv,
https://pokepast.es/f76ad4d88f25f02e
idk, maybe cinderace?
haha that was actually what I just had in, team just got too walled by tusk
loom?
yeah shard felt off
do dd eq tera ground or smth
i think u want another faster mon in the last slot
either a scarfer or val/pult or smth
very partial to that set but I can try breloom I suppose, not sure what set you had in mind. I was going to try a mixed chomp with hdb
I think the only good loom set is cb
you want like a fast mon that can also threaten meow and tusk and corv and there's not a lot, or really anything that can offer it other than val
suppose that's fair, I'll retest val and the other two suggestions
still hits like a truck on ace but it can tank one hit if the burn hits
https://pokepast.es/37ea83897d5ef7b8
Team had gone through so many more changes
Dnite will never leave though
tusk does like 70 after a burn so make sure your ace is healthy or that you've got a backup plan
why do you have 3 different ways of managing hazards, especially since chomp's a suicide lead anyways, wash and corv hover over spikes, and dnite + ace both have boots
thank you both for the advice
np, gl
https://pokepast.es/0628ad9a4cc51cd0
Need help with this team! It fluctuates my elo both good and bad!
So just change the items of the boots mons?
Actually wait, don't I want my fire-type pivot to have boots??
pls
no, im saying you dont need that much hazard control
ttar just isn't that good
your entire team depends on getting in and staying in for a sweep. which is bad since if you're forced out due to any reason you've suddenly lsot your boost
Then who should I replace and what should I replace them with?
no real reason to tera fighting on dengo if no focus blast
probably want some form of hazard control, but half your team doesn't care anyways so idk up to you
you coudl replace corv with dozo, and maybe drop court change on ace if you're confident enough in bouncing with hatterene
alternatively, you could drop court change and swap hatterene out for another mon
Tusk maybe? Since it has rapid spin
Wait no
I have court
Boots
Bounce
Defog
I now see what you're talking about
Ah! Okay then, what should i change?
yeah its way too excessive id get it if you were going for some weird bootless volc + dnite set but
Tbh I was just kinda clicking sample sets lmao
remove ttar, if you want a decent special wall with the ability to hit back vest tusk is a set
maybe boots moth?
honestly you're just one switch of leaves to torkoal and another mon in ttar's spot from a sun team, so id recommend that, but if not, make either wake or leaves choiced/lo/something that's not booster energy idk their sets yet, and find a mon for ttar's spot
https://pokepast.es/5224e745f46b9367 Fun sun team that I threw together in like 5 minutes was wondering if there were any flaws with it? Im fairly new to Showdown and dont really know what im doing
https://pokepast.es/2d9385055fb06426
RMT sun offense
mandatory torkoal
av tusk gets def proto boost in sun so with av its an amazing amount of bulk
mandatory wake and rmoon
hatterene can switch into moves and keep momentum with eject button. magic bounce to repel hazards and healing wish to heal mons if things go south
AV azu can safely switch into opposing wake/moon and can threaten OHKO with play rough
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I think Torkoal should have Stealth Rock, maybe consider tera blast on walking wake and go with electric tera. I dont think looking at this team I see a auto tera user. You can go with Jaw Lock on Moon to trap users if you want but that's pref stuff.
tera water hydro steam is my go to
ight keep it
How’s this OU sun team? https://pokepast.es/ab8a7108c4015761
Sun boosts fire moves and u have a pokemon weak to fire moves that feels counter entuitvie
you are kinda fucking yourself over with corv just use tusk
does the same thing
https://pokepast.es/81c52fe0c6f2e776 how is this team
Specs pult might
Fire blast,tbolt,u turn,shadow ball,draco
It has everything
U can try Tera bug pult u turn for meow
Not bad; av tusk isnt very good though. Id run boots or leftovers physically defensive. Also skeledirge really does prefer being spdef. The team is a bit garganacl weak so id replace maybe hatterene for covert gholdengo, make tusk physdef rocks, and maybe run curse garg?
How relevant is rotom wash in this tier?
Just replace dirg and corv with tusk and either ceruledge or scovillain. Also EV Moon to gain speed in sun and Wake to gain special attack. Wake getting absurd damage numbers is the main point of sun, and +speed moon is just solid vs offensive mons
Extremely
Do rotom wash go for max spatk investment?
Because av tusk survived a hydro pump from a rotom wash
Mmm not often no
A lot of them are defensive, either phys or spdef
Hydro volt twave protect, sometimes last 2 can be nasty plot and tera blast
Almost always tera fairy
So how would a sun team work here now that walking wake is a thing?
Torkoal, Wake, Roaring Moon, Tusk, Hatterene, Filler usually
Filler can be swing, sandy shocks, ceruledge, scovillain
Isn’t ceruledge considered bad since it can’t do enough damage to tusk?
No
How about dirge or garg
Bit too slow, sapping momentum from sun really sucks. Unlike with rain where pelipper can get its own mons in
You really want to keep up the pressure
On sun ?
ye
Eh, dont see the purpose
If ur gonna run a valiant at all there id just run booster
But overall u probably want a sun abuser
Since there is like 100 to pick from
https://pokepast.es/2fd75f4005d25c4b how about this?
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then acrobatics would be useless
https://pokepast.es/0779e70071cb1d08
Hows this team?
Im aware acro would be useless, not telling u to use acro
So uh what would the moveset be if it’s a band moon set?
Outrage, crunch, iron head, uturn
Could I replace outrage with earthquake?
Yeah sure
Do i keep hatterene?
Ok thx
Can I get help on a team?
Sure
Im on mobile rn so its harder without being able to see teambuilder but i can give baseline advice rn
Pokepaste it
Its been doing well tera water garg + corv + wash makes for a good in and out core that I can swap between until my heavy hitters get their chance
Like this? https://pokepast.es/2cadc7e9145b28d8
@green citrus pm me your thoughts I got school and dont wanna miss any critiques
Yeah perfect, give it a go
Without dirge don’t i suffer a little from hisui-zoro?
With Tera normal hyper voice it kinda violates the team
Hm
Honestly not sure since i havent played much into horoark meta yet but dirge is a shaky check anyways
I think roarmoon is ur best bet
U could try tera dark hatt too if u wanna snipe it maybe
Bruh
Or steel tusk
Specs speed boost walking wake hits the same speed but hits harder
Just more optimized
Also maybe do roaring moon over sash meow here
The zoroark is interesting, is there a specific strategy in mind?
Solid; if u insist on keeping garganacl u should do curse tera water. Aside from that u could just replace it with another sun abuser, but otherwise this is fine
https://pokepast.es/2e364f429ba57664 I took advice, and maybe i need thoughts on this
@green citrus
I don’t have a switch-in to great tusk headlong rush
Or any ground type move
u go into ur own or hatt and pivot
https://pokepast.es/091e5377f3ffa674
BO team around FS Slowking + Specs Valiant
Dunno about the Dnite set, it's been a great glue to the team checking a buncha stuff and the moveset has been working out for me, just not sure about the EV spread and the move choices
Is slowking necessary here?
not per se I guess? He's been my main wwake (and general sun) answer
and the team did start with the FS + Valiant idea
id fit trick over thunderbolt on valiant, personally. also give tusk 96 speed evs to outspeed walking wake after 1 rapid spin if it's not scarfed and under sun. idk how i feel about that dnite set but ive seen it around its good for surprise kills.
it might be better to go mix chomp with SR on dnite and go with curse set on nacl
aight, thanks
np
Andviet you there
Ok i want some thoughts on this team
https://pokepast.es/710cd5d8e0c94069 so far its been doing pretty well
Garg + rotom wash + corviknight makes for a great defensive core to swap between
Scarf gren is a good speedy cleaner
Iron val is a great wall breaker that threatens what dragonite or gren cant hit
Dnite is our priority revenge killer + sweeper
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I don't like Dragon Tera on Corvi noone on the team can take on moonblast so I think it's beneficial going with a different tera, maybe ground. I think Greninja should def have uturn as a pivoter over grass knot probably, i would change the nature on nacl to +sp.def and -sp.att (not sassy nature). id go tera fairy / steel on rotom-w based on the matchups you see. as i told the other user above it might be best to go with trick over one of your valiant attacks to break some walls.
Hmmm over which attack? Shadow ball maybe? But then skeledirge kills and scarf dirge can snowball quite easily with torch song though i guess dnite and greninja are enough to solve that problem
Hello all, I’ve been using this till about 1400s and it’s hella fun. I haven’t ran into too much issues with any one Pokémon in particular except sub skeledirge. Can I get an opinion or any help to improve this team further?
And of course a rating
https://pokepast.es/2e364f429ba57664 I took advice, and maybe i need thoughts on this
a: you probably want a hazard suicide lead like glim or chomp as well
b: if you're running screens ho why not run agility wake/leaves
c: kinda weird putting dengo here considering you have no hazards
d: you're like 3 steps away from a sun team
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https://pokepast.es/563d069a7903073f i feel like there are a lot of problems with my team like it gets swept by opposing mon that set up sweep
Tysm! It worked so well now that iron leaves can potentially sweep a team!
ho go brrrrrr
why are you running booster energy on a mon that already gets boosted by sun
what are you trying to hit with tera electric?
why eject pack on tusk
Tera Electric deals with Azumarill
Also idk what else item to put for Roaring Moon
Eject pack so after cc or hr tusk gets a free switch
been having fun playing this team, only mon I wont change is Gengar. Been getting fucked by walking wake, basically only counter atm is rotom-wash hitting it with t-wave. Don't have a consistent lead but idk if that matters, any adjustments appreciated.
https://pokepast.es/415dcbd6f906429e
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Well so this is not able to break through bulk up tus
That shit lives 2 flower tricks from meow without tera from full
And corv is slight problem
I mean if ur not running spikes meow should be cb anyways
U could make rotom into fairy if u wanna beat BU tusk
Also make tusk rocks and garg curse i think
So tusk should be rapid spin rock then knock and eq right?
theres a natdex channel btw
Oh ty
https://pastebin.com/8tZH0gjC
my team is shit but how shit is it
I can't help but feel like you're running too many archetypes here
I'd either make just a sun team or just a tr team
Its also really passive and for tr, where you're on a timer before it runs out, you wanna be as aggressive as possible
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Hey, this channel is only for singles. Try asking in the Dou Rates channel
Hey look it's the guy from #!
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https://pokepast.es/1e20450702d4ff2c Any thoughts?
Water Tusk is Anti-Rain
I could go for Tera Fire on Moon since Trick Valiant is the only counterplay I have for Volcarona
https://pokepast.es/594b5f2e7b55e6ae thoughts
ive thoughts about replacing orb with scarf on wake and putting pulse on it
I go specs with Wake tbh
But if not I'd keep orb
If you adjust ivs right you get speed in sun
yeah i was gonna adjust the stats if i go with specsa
https://pokepast.es/471e3a366e023980 these are the changes i made
https://pokepast.es/397d6602b60fe916 Hey can I please get some advice, this is my first time playing since towards the end og gen8 where I was sitting about 1500. But I currently cant get past 1300. So any advice would be great
@worn arrow @fallow crag @daring violet @dry edge @green citrus @severe shard
i personally wouldnt run wave crash, liquidation and aqua jet on floatzel
even though ik the smogon analysis has it
id either swap aqua jet or liquidation for crunch
also why the super specific ev spreads
like why not go full 252 speed in float
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@daring violet
team looks good a few small changes i can see: 96 speed evs to outspeed walking wake outside of a speed boost under sun, and lastly to go with a booster energy set of iron leaves where you're getting a speed boost, i don't know much about the viability of the cb set
@daring violet
Because in rain it will outspeed most and the extra bulk allows for some good extra survivability
I can't tbuild: https://pokepast.es/f0eb4e66744caa2c
go with iron treads over great tusk (assault vest) replace tinkaton with kingambit
hi everyone, I was trying zoroark-hisui for fun and deciced to build a team
doesn't feel very good
can u give me ur opinions?
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U def want a new set on zoroark. I would go for a specs set with atleast shadow ball, flamethrower, and focus blast. Grass knot or Tera blast is a good 4th I tend to find. Balloon on gholden might not be necessary cuz u already have dnite to switch in. Maybe go eject pack to pivot after make it rain or covert cloak. And lastly switch dnites item to boots and I think that should be good enough in my opinion
Hi , I'm trying to build a baxcalibur/slowking core, but im currently stuck on what pokemon I should use as my 6th, are there any better options besides amoonguss?
Its a fine start. I am more concerned about hazards since you are rather weak to them and Banded Tusk isn't the best form of removal. Would try boots on Slowking and Amoonguss instead. Court Change Cinderace > Zoroark would also help with this and improve your Volcarona mu a bit.
Remember to choose your teras! And try Sassy 0 Speed IVs Slowking (so you click Chilly Reception as slow as possible)
https://pokepast.es/b71cbd0964fb1015 soooo dnite feels very replaceable on this team any tips on what could replace it?
Go tera dragon > water, and pump > hurricane as alternative especially since hurricane accuracy becomes worse in sun, make this offensive tusk with ice spinner to better pressure dnites which usually give sun an issue, and eject button hatt > gambit
idk cos i feel like defensive tusk has been really helpful
also ill change wake rq too
i never really clicked hurricane lol
248 HP116 Def144 Spe
Tera Type
Steel
is this eject hatt set?
Ye
Torkoal should be the rocker fwiw
Tusk itself fairly bulky regardless even if it where to go offensive
Plus being able to pressure dnite goes a long way
Torkoal usually runs plume, bpress, spin, and last slot is customizable tho most common is rocks
252 attack 252 speed 4 def headlong rush, cc ice spinner rapid spin?
i feel like yawn is better than spin if tusk is here
No knock is kinda oof
You can try it but I do prefer just cause having torkoal let’s offensive tusk have all the moves it wants to be a crazy offensive presence
ig
its just that having sr weakness and trying to be a spinner is gonna be a bit awkward
wait wtf
my tusk was bold this whole time
Well that’s why you also have hatt in the back to help prevent hazards constantly being up
It’s whatever it doesn’t really matter it’s just filler
and tera remains steel right?
Fighting
and lefties right
Ye
im getting walled by scream tail ahh
https://pokepast.es/dda77eb020b618d7 I got to 1750 from 1200 with this team and i'm scared to mess with it but still do want to see what others think
any suggestions are welcome but please don't change it's core
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Its alr. Seems a bit weak to stall cause I am not sure how you break pass Dondozo + Clod
i've been struggling with that in specific
clod is manageable
but dozo is murderous
Yeah its moreso Dondozo + smth that deals with rona
so like dozo + pex, dozo + clod, dozo + skele, would all be troublesome I feel
yea
How you pass dozo+dirge
moon beats dirge
but that costs both moon and my tera
Not sure how much you can do besides Taunt > Roost on Moon
to at least wear Dozo down
also helps vs skele a bit
Oh yes mhmm
hadn't thought of that tbh
i used roost to setup on great tusk
Yee I get it, Roost is good
but hmmmm
another option is sac glimm lead and use something else
but idk how much that compensates
Maybe try it and see how it plays out against that mu and others(?) Maybe it isnt super helpful in practice
Cause they can also go Mola and spam chilling water
yeah that team is the one i almost never beat
i've only beaten it through god forsaken crits in very specific moments
but well i mean
you can't really teambuild against everything
yee
I personally like Tera Dark on Black Glasses Kingambit, helps break down fat though that team might still be rough cause of Talon
oh yeah about kingambit
i was gonna metnion gambit
i hadn't properly thought of tera types, and that spread
speed is to outspeed 28 speed dirge
but i don't know how outdated that is lmao
wait that's smart
Its good dw. Speed wars with those are a bit out of hand rn. Tons of Kingambit are just running Max Speed now. But your EVs should be fine
fair lmao
yeah
What could replace dragonite on this team?
https://pokepast.es/3d7a4ed68dd93d94 Wanted to replace Hatt, any standout canidates that could replace it?
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Or should I just keep it
Hatts fine tho you should make this lefties great tusk with ice spinner > pr, eq > bpress on garg, make wake tera dragon 244 spa and the rest into def with max speed this allows for speed boost with proto, and tera blast > hurricane tbh valiant mu is tricky which I would honestly just recommend volc > garg fwiw
So this is basically one of my first teams, can you guys give some advices for improvements?
https://pokepast.es/aba720f41220cff7
https://pokepast.es/a41c8ae04b14febf I need some insight(I have issues with walking wake and not having great switch in options for certain mons
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I'll take this as the most recent iteration of the team. I don't think azu works too well here; I could see another pivot to fully cement the VoltTurn core you have, something like Cinderace or Meowscarada would work
This would necessitate Tera Fairy on garg
which one would fit better
Imo I'd go meow
https://pokepast.es/456a6a5eacbb9d48
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I thought Rotom W doesn't get pain split
Oh damn that should’ve been infiltrator yeah, my bad
And yeah sadly Rotom W doesnt have pain split in this gen
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Is there a reason for SpDef Roaring Moon? Haven't seen it since Chi-Yu got banned
Hisui Zoroark
I see
Anyone other suggestions? (Apart from infiltrator pult)
https://pokepast.es/a41c8ae04b14febf I need some insight(I have issues with walking wake and not having great switch in options for certain mons
If u have wake issues you can try Slowking
Or Wake itself counters specs steam I think
but everybody's having wake issues so idrk
ok that makes me feel a bit better about myself but why slowking if I may ask
idk ive just seen people using it
it also gets rid of the sun if u use chilly reception on it
Which makes Hydro Steam less of a problem
https://pokepast.es/0c75d3bfe541530c
tryna get back into ou, hows this team
https://pokepast.es/204d7790e394be86
Mostly for fun with mons I like to play (Lokix my beloved even tho this set is garbage)
Tera water garg walls wake
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https://pokepast.es/71c49181964b8b11
What should I change about this team so that walking wake doesn't claim a ko everytime it enters
should I go av azu > rotom-wash?
https://pokepast.es/1bf6d368ad48a2d6 tried to build around baxcalibur
going well tbh but id like advice
https://pokepast.es/2982355ad65b30ff thoughts?
https://pokepast.es/9956d1f163308666 yoo hoo hoo
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I’d go dragon dance pult instead of specs, energy ball > spikes on glimmora, and curse + eq on garg instead of id press
Just fits HO more
Fun team!
Thanks!
i am kinda new to this is this for singles or doubles?
Singles
It's been > 6hrs so I can post this team again
Is going av azu > rotom wash a reasonable change for the ww sus?
Trying to make a rain team before wake is banned any suggestions?
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https://pokepast.es/2a13d8029aaa0912
can anyone help me with my team, i dont know how to team build
required to have gastrodon btw
Maybe Hurricane over Hydro Pump on Walking Wake
Try to fit Garganacl somewhere, it 's a good core
That’s it?
Also if you're running Air Balloon and offensive NP suggest making it max spa and max spe

