[DO NOT USE][ARCHIVED] SV OU Rates

[ionic crag]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/teambuilder can someone rate this?

[supple forge]

that leads to the teambuilder 💀

[fair berry]

💀

[real willow]

"rate my entire builder"

[warm sequoia]

https://pokepast.es/d965f8025c3933f9 this team feels good but I keep losing to garganacl and Rotom Wash😟

[viral sable]

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[agile lava]

go cloak np recover make it rain shadow ball gholdengo

and lefties dondozo

[warm sequoia]

Oh like a defensive build?

[agile lava]

no

same evs

[warm sequoia]

Mk that sounds good.

[agile lava]

knock > cc on tusk too

[warm sequoia]

Ah alright. I was thinking of being more offensive but that would work better

[rose hinge]

roaring moon team
https://pokepast.es/d2f7f09b25838940
i know having hydrieogn and moon together is probably ass
but dreigon can help kill bozo and dirge and is also a good offensive rocker
meowscarada can pivot and remove items
dengo can keep up hazards
moth can clean up pretty easily
corv is removal

[rose hinge]

halp

[proven hare]

3 dark types and 2 Dragon/Darks?

I think Tank Chomp over Hydreigon would be nice here

I think Boots Moth with Toxic Spikes may be better than Booster here

[rose hinge]

chomp cant help with bozo and dirge is the problem

[proven hare]

You have Meow

For Dozo

Also

As for Dirge

Meow + Hazards should be fine

It if Teras

Moth can Sludge Wave it

[rose hinge]

yeah ig

im just a bit reluctant cos hydreigon has been carrying games recently

[proven hare]

If that's the case

Maybe try replacing Moon

For something that beats Garg

Covert Hatterene or something is nice I guess

[rose hinge]

moon is the thing i wanna build around haha

but ill do tank chomp

[proven hare]

LMAO

Maybe you replace Meow then?

Meow is fine I guess

[rose hinge]

yeah

roaring moon cant beat nearly the whole tier apart from bozo and unchipped dirge

so i was just looking for stuff to fill that

[proven hare]

So what issue are you facing?

With this team

I can see Garg being somewhat a problem

[rose hinge]

idk i havent suffered from garg too much

meow and chomp handle it pretty decently

i just played a game with chomp and it did well so im liking that

[proven hare]

Ok cool

So I guess the time's fine then

[rose hinge]

one thing im not fully convinced on is dazzling gleam for dengo

[spiral fable]

Valiant can punch a big hole in this team

[rose hinge]

it semms ok so far but yeah

[rose hinge]

its inclined to spam moonblast

so i put 3 fairy resists

offensively i think roaring moon and meowscarada can take it out

[spiral fable]

Mixed or booster energy can easily clean up

Also run trick on dengo why do you have dazzling gleam

Personally I would switch hydreigon for orthworm but it seems you’re attached to it so

[rose hinge]

i got rid of hydreigon for chomp

also dazzling gleam was because i forgot it had trick, it did save me on one niche situation but yeah ill remove it

[spiral fable]

Huh

I don’t see why chomp but ig if agslash recommended it there’s some reason

[rose hinge]

hydreigon was just good because of the stealth rock

chomp is less passive than worm and has spikes too

wht does mixed valiant run as moves?

[proven hare]

They lack a ground

On that note, Rocks Tusk can work too

[spiral fable]

Usually cc moonblast psyshock and then like tbolt or rarer sball

[spiral fable]

I mean the problem is mixed valiant kinda just runs through his team

[rose hinge]

idk if shadow ball is rare then doesnt dhengo check it?

[spiral fable]

Dengo still gets hit pretty hard and can be easily chipped down thanks to no recovery

[rose hinge]

hm how to deal with it then

also tusk is a good option true

just fought a valiant and it was pretty scary though he saved it for the end

[proven hare]

CM Valiant is a problem indeed

Thing is all the good grounds are weak to Fairy

[sly mauve]

Is banded breloom any good or is it mostly lefties and life orb

[proven hare]

Time for Mr Treads

LMAO

[rose hinge]

hell nah 😂

i guess i could replace chomp with tusk

and then replace corv with something?

[proven hare]

I think you could do Rotom-W over Corv

And go Rocks + Spin Tusk

[spiral fable]

Dirge is an excellent valiant counter, if you want to swap it in somewhere

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/d0cc8ad0367d5f9d how is this?

[rose hinge]

kk

though spike stacking with chomp is nice

then again moth has t spikes + rocks from tusk

[rose hinge]

oh good idea

can skeledirge be ran as a bulky attacker or does it have to be a wall

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/c292a677a1677d20 i fixed the terra types @spiral fable what do you think

[spiral fable]

Run spikes on clod since you already have rocks on tusk

Also Tera flying is wack

[spiral fable]

It’s best as wall

[elfin quiver]

https://pokepast.es/49a59bcd3e9afd63 made this team a few days ago. What could change or improve? Is there a special wall that can complement the team?

[proven hare]

It is a wall and a bulky attacker at the same time

[tame zinc]

https://pokepast.es/d9ede51d2aa4493a I need help

idek what my goal is I just threw random stuff together

[ionic crag]

https://pokepast.es/4bf19328c6dd89b1 this good?

[spiral fable]

I would recommend cc instead of focus blast on valiant, hex over shadow ball on dirge, and psyshock over psychic on hatterene

[ionic crag]

Why close combat on valiant?

[spiral fable]

More reliable

You really don’t want to rely on focus miss

[ionic crag]

What are some common threats that valiant can’t use moonblast on where a fighting move is needed

[spiral fable]

Gambit and ig Garg but usually Garg teras

And the rare stall blissey

[ionic crag]

Couldn’t I just run psyshock instead for poison types and special walls?

[spiral fable]

O wait you’re not already

Huh

I didn’t see that

Yeah go ahead

[ionic crag]

Why hex over shadow ball on dirge?

Wouldn’t that make dirge get walled by any fire type?

[spiral fable]

You’ve got a wall dirge anyways, and you really shouldn’t worry about fire types. Torch song can still snowball and break through volc and cinderace

Opposing dirges will also usually Tera so hex wisp would be better anyways

[ionic crag]

Could I run a toxic spikes setter so hex is stronger against these fire types?

[subtle rose]

Unnecessary + what fire types aren't running hdb

• dirge shouldn't be the mon killing everything regardless

[ionic crag]

psyshock on hatterene is to not be walled by special walls right

[subtle rose]

It lets you boost v other boosters and win

like volcarona

[ionic crag]

ok

does valiant run tbolt and shadow ball as coverage?

[subtle rose]

Don't necessarily need tbolt imo, sball hits dengo

[ionic crag]

whats the most common dengo set

[subtle rose]

scarf or np

[ionic crag]

do those sets run max spdef dengo?

[tame zinc]

I think they usually run speed

Is throat spray skele viable

or na

[scarlet cloud]

https://pokepast.es/928dd7c886228f15

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[scarlet cloud]

Kek

[scarlet cloud]

Any changes i should make?

[green citrus]

Mons are good, sets could use work

Id do like

Specs valiant, physdef tusk with rocks, physdsf rotom with maybe tera fairy or ghost, focus blast or recover over tbolt on dengo

And maybe some speed on kingambit for skeledirge and corv

[scarlet cloud]

Oki ty

[rare palm]

https://pokepast.es/6f1a46538271872b thoughts?

[viral sable]

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[dry edge]

I made this Azu spread a while ago cause I needed it to both outspeed common Skeledirges and keep some bulk for Chien-Pao, hence why the EVs are on Def and not HP

However Pao is no longer in the tier and the Skeles are going even faster, they are running~28 speed EVs which hits 175. You can try more Speed on Azun and just put the rest of EVs on HP (make sure its an even number for BDrum+Sitrus to work)

[rain gyro]

thanks for this information lmao

lemme adjust kingambit speed

[sterile frost]

https://pokepast.es/2c8db7dba898180e so the empty slot was where Chien pao used to be. I really enjoyed using them and wonder if there is any good substitute for them.

This team is focused around switching tomfoolery and fast attacking mond combined with the two defensive pivots of RW and Toxi

And Chien poa was like the cleaner after all of the nasty stuff was out of the way so something like that would be epic

[spiral fable]

if you want a late game cleaner booster energy valiant could be good

[sterile frost]

Okay cool thank you

Should I go for a speed boost and be a mix attacker or go all out on attack

[rose summit]

https://pokepast.es/d0ff8cfbb673dfd6

[spiral fable]

i would recommend mixed, or if you're really feeling like it sd valiant

[spiral fable]

paldean tauros just isn't viable in the metagame, nor is tinkaton

if you want a wisper, rotom wash and dirge are both avaliable, if you want a dark check you've got loom tusk valiant or quaval, if you want a bulky physical wall you've got dozo pex dirge garg

as for tinkaton if you want a rocker that can still do damage tusk is right there

[sterile frost]

I will go with mixed, thsnk.you

[spiral fable]

yeah, you need some attacks that can hit on the physical side(and probably psyshock cuz clod can sit on wash pult and volc

[sterile frost]

I will go with mixed, thsnk.you

I see

[elfin quiver]

https://pokepast.es/49a59bcd3e9afd63 made this team a few days ago. What could change or improve? Is there a special wall that can complement the team?

[viral sable]

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[spiral fable]

Clod can fit decently I think

[elfin quiver]

https://pokepast.es/f15f5a60db815527 something like this?

[spiral fable]

youd want lefties as it doesn't reveal your tera type

[tame zinc]

https://pokepast.es/9a8afb34da3bac19

[fallow notch]

https://pokepast.es/e310b8a0cd24ce5b

Please help me

[verbal wing]

https://pokepast.es/ab65a71fca606336 Ou team with greninja one of my favorite mons

[spiral fable]

it semes you're new to showdown, so i recommend picking a sample team and running with it fora while before you start teambuilding yourself

because honestly this team mis completely unviable

[fallow notch]

Ive played for years, and too late

[spiral fable]

ok, well none of these mons are even in ou, and basically none of them are viable

[fallow notch]

?

They are tho

[subtle rose]

you're using bad mons

[fallow notch]

Its on pkmn showdown

[spiral fable]

are you trolling

[fallow notch]

Also, i cant change it now

[subtle rose]

no. mence is uu, maus is uu, zoroark is ru or something, basculin is like nu, revavroom is ru, muds is ru

[spiral fable]

if you're trying to submit a troll team for "review" that's not allowed
if you legitimately think these are viable mons, i highly suggest you run with a sample team instead because you don't know much of the metagame

[fallow notch]

No?

My guy i made it in format

I can use it in format

[spiral fable]

just because you can use it in the format does not mean it's viable

you can pick up any more from ou or lower

[fallow notch]

Well its allowed

And i did!

Ooohhhh

You meant that

I misunderstood

[spiral fable]

and none of these mons are in ou

[fallow notch]

I cant change it rn anyways

Thats the rules

[spiral fable]

???

yes you can

you can very easily go into teambuilder, and pick new mons

[fallow notch]

The tournament checks your team beforehand

You cannot change it at all or your disqualified

So i'll fix it later

[spiral fable]

ok well then i dont know why you're trying to ask for help then

why are you here if you can't even change your team

[fallow notch]

I would have done it earlier, but none of yall helped me before now

[fallow notch]

I could earlier

But again, nobody helped me til it was too late

[spiral fable]

well ig in the future don't try to build a team for a metagame you dont know

sample teams are an excellent resource

[real willow]

Which tour

[strange summit]

https://pokepast.es/04a9163b18fd65ee, I wanna know what to run in that last slot, was thinking banded Pult or RM but idk which is better and if that's what I need

[fallow notch]

Its not official, and was a bit last minute

I dont run it

[real willow]

What rules were there

Like which mons could use/not use

[spiral fable]

if you want a physical banded breaker i would recommend bax, and if you just want a physical sweeper ddance roraing moon

[strange summit]

I was thinking I needed U-Turn because nobody else has it and it would help generate momentum

Bax would be great for coverage but it can't pivot

I'll try it anyways ty

[pulsar geyser]

Wash

[fallow notch]

Just whatever was aloud on showdown in gen 9 ou

Anyways, i can edit it now

[fallow notch]

I knew a good amount about gen 8 ou

[spiral fable]

none of your mons would be viable in gen 8 ou

[fallow notch]

Just not 9, since ive been playing so much persona lately and have barely touched scarlet

[fallow notch]

No shit

Most of them arent even in swsh

But anyways, i like basculin, the mouse, and the horse

Idk their names

The rest are whatever, i can live without them

I know i need more special attackers

[spiral fable]

none of your mons are viable at all

the closest to viable mons you have are salamance and maushold, the former of which is outclassed and beaten easily by some of the top mons in ou and the latter of which is easily countered

[strange summit]

Thanks for this I threw banded bax on and climbed back to 1700, looks like it was the right call.

[spiral fable]

Banded bax is insanely strong

[real willow]

If you're using whatever's allowed in gen 9 ou then you may as well just use the samples if you're unfamiliar with the metagame

they're widely available because they're good teams

that fit the metagame

so I would start with one of those as a base

then if you find that you want to edit the team in some way, you make the changes on top of the team

there's also the sv ou bazaar if you want to use teams but I would probably exercise more caution with those teams since they may be flawed in some way

[fallow notch]

What samples are there?

[real willow]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ou-sample-teams.3712513/

[fallow notch]

Okay, thanks

[real willow]

np

[fallow notch]

Im only replacing salamence, zoroark, and the road roller tho

[tame zinc]

https://pokepast.es/9a8afb34da3bac19 Im quite new to showdown and idrk what im doing so could someone help me?

[viral sable]

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[dry edge]

Hey this is actually alr. Kingambit + Specs Valiant with Dragapult support is quite alr. Most of the team composition is fine I would say.

Some smol changes are Black Glasses/Lum Berry/Leftovers on Kingambit. Life Orb isn't particularly great on it. Heavy-Duty Boots on Skeledirge instead of Leftovers.

Some more general suggestions: The Great Tusk set needs a fair bit of work, you can try smth like this

Great Tusk @ Leftovers
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature

• Earthquake
• Stealth Rock
• Knock Off
• Rapid Spin

Besides that it should be alr. You can try a defensive RotomW instead of Choice Scarf if you want, but you can give this a go.

[tame zinc]

What would that look like?

I only used scarf so I could try to beat stall mons like Clod or sum but idrk if thats the best way to go abt it

[dry edge]

Something like this for example
Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature

• Volt Switch
• Hydro Pump
• Protect
• Thunder Wave / Will-O-Wisp

You can try SpDef investment instead of PhysDef too, since Greninja might be an issue.

So smth like this

Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature

• Volt Switch
• Hydro Pump
• Protect
• Thunder Wave / Will-O-Wisp

You are already pretty well equipped to deal with stall, tricking a Choice Scarf won't make too too much of a difference imo

[fallen shale]

https://pokepast.es/e399691ef6dc6025
Need suggestions for a 6th, would be cool if someone could suggest something that can both handle greninja and act as a good covert cloaker

[viral sable]

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[fallen shale]

Was thinking azumarill but that'd rely on the greninja not carrying gunk shot/grass knot, also don't wanna stack a 4th grass weakness

Actually now that i think about it, lack of corviknight there probably automatically makes this team dogshit

[strange summit]

I think spdef invested ironpress corvi with roost and u-turn would be the way to go, can take hits from gren decently well and recover, pivot, be the wincon in the right circumstances too.

[fallen shale]

Could you paste me a set?

Never used spd corvi

@strange summit

[strange summit]

yeah

@fallen shale Corviknight @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature

• Body Press
• Iron Defense
• Roost
• U-turn

you could run bulk up + brave bird instead too

and tera fighting is an option too but I like tera water for ace and ceruledge

[fallen shale]

Ty

[cursive tiger]

https://pokepast.es/4166667a010cb3d9

[subtle rose]

https://pokepast.es/886ca23366c06bf1 unsure about the tera's

[viral sable]

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[subtle rose]

I like the swing shocks volt turn

cb pult is breaker, dengo is speed control, tusk is tusk, washtom is a water resist

[subtle rose]

https://pokepast.es/1c39eb8b38d66c84

k updated sets

[subtle rose]

@green citrus

[green citrus]

u lose to shadow ball

[subtle rose]

fax..

whats the fix

[proven hare]

Make it banded Swing or Specs Shocks, and Drop Pult

For a Dark type

I think Kingambit is nice here for Pult

[subtle rose]

problem is neither choice of those r

good breakers

i think drop pult is fine

Gambit could work here w fly i guess

What if specs gren

Its kind of a fake ghost resist

lol

Ooh

cb rmoon?

[proven hare]

It's not a Pult check at all

[proven hare]

Swing is fine

Shocks can be hit-or-miss Specs user I guess

Band Gambit is an alternative as well I guess
But I like Swing more than Gambit as a Band breaker

[rain gyro]

can it even switch into specs shadow ball lmao

or does it only force it out after a kill

[subtle rose]

Yeah

gren barely eats two

so nogo there

[proven hare]

I'm talking about Moon

[subtle rose]

cb gambit sounds plausible

Ik

[proven hare]

It's a fake Ghost resist since Pult smacks it

[subtle rose]

Ya

[proven hare]

CB Swing seems better to me tbh

[subtle rose]

Eh

cb swing sd gambit

fly hdb?

Yah

Not terrible

[proven hare]

Yup

You could go Fire Gambit too

[subtle rose]

Maybe I run

[proven hare]

To help you with Volc

[subtle rose]

rocks 4th

[proven hare]

And Dirge

[subtle rose]

on gambit

and spike w

shocky

what else do u need right

[proven hare]

No

[subtle rose]

kowtow sucker iron rocks

[proven hare]

Don't run Rocks Gambit

It doesn't do anything vs Tusk

To keep rocks

[subtle rose]

Eh true enough

[proven hare]

Run standard SD Gambit

Tera Fire is my preference

[subtle rose]

Yah Probably

Fire sounds good

[proven hare]

Since your team can struggle vs Volcarona

[subtle rose]

volc is scary

Ye

matchup moth

[proven hare]

Yup

Flying is nice for Tusk

But Swing does fine vs Tusk

Plus you have Rotom-W and your Tusk

[subtle rose]

Yah

[subtle rose]

okay so @proven hare https://pokepast.es/7e7cf43192ebd0ad

?

I think U still want msun on cb swing

[ionic crag]

https://pokepast.es/81a836f5207c3bee

[proven hare]

Bruh, I just saw that there's no CC on Swing

Wtf

Add it over Sun

[subtle rose]

Oh

That's weird

I'm going to drop wisp

I don't need cb wisp

[proven hare]

That can work as well

[subtle rose]

I punish tusk plenty hard

[proven hare]

Swing beats Tusk anyway

[subtle rose]

Ye

252+ Atk Choice Band Slither Wing Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Great Tusk: 198-234 (45.6 - 53.9%) -- 2.3% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Big damage

[proven hare]

You resist all its relevant moves

[subtle rose]

not rapid spin B)

(jk)

[inner vessel]

Wassup team

I been building a bunch of ghost spam (band pult + some variation of gholdengo) lately

Here is the latest build: https://pokepast.es/6ca49e8a818e22ef

Aside from the obvious stuff: great tusk with a lum berry - yes weird, but just in case I need to spin t spike at some point during the game without having to run boots, also just thought it was a lil heat tech. Dirge speed to creep gambit, washtom to check booster valiant

Lum isn’t a dealbreaker on tusk, leftys and helmet work just fine

Just looking for a bunch of stuff to put around ghost spam rly. Also like band pult + scarf gholdengo. Band pult is a dealbreaker

Spikes can also be sucker on the cat

[fallen shale]

Sadly covert cloak gholdengo is not a good garganacl check

That's all i have to say abt that team

[serene lantern]

You have an insane amount of patience

[ionic crag]

https://pokepast.es/8fb2182d9a2c0e43 how is this rain team

[shrewd flax]

I’ll help a bit, I’m not a rater though so probably wait till someone more qualified then me helps

First off choice band over life orb on barraskewda

[ionic crag]

y

[shrewd flax]

Well, it’s really rare you are going to not click liquidations

So you want to maximize your damage

And if you are already using floatzel too

You don’t want both mons to take recoil

[ionic crag]

what about the coverage on barra

[shrewd flax]

Srry I gtg, hopefully someone else can help you

[subtle rose]

to hit who

also

rain != six water pokemon lol

[rain gyro]

how the fuck

is there like

any BETTER garg check?

[rain gyro]

adamant + rain + band liquidation hits like a truck

[rain gyro]

and also this

[ionic crag]

idk something with water immunity

[rain gyro]

name it

lmao

it can 2hko resists most of the time too unless it's a quad resist or absurdely bulky

[ionic crag]

everything with water absorb or storm drain

[subtle rose]

which consists of exactly zero ou pokemon

[rain gyro]

^

other than maybe

water absorb clod

but that's one every ten clods

[ionic crag]

anyway

if barra only needs 1 move what about the other 3 moves

[subtle rose]

u dont click them 99% of the time

ur not trying to take 10% every time u attack w/ a mon that has

no recovery

bad bulk

weak to prio

[rain gyro]

if you really DO run into something

that you want something else over liquidation

switching out exists

[ionic crag]

don't have anything for that

[shrewd flax]

Close combat and aqua jet come up once in a while

I’m back btw

[rain gyro]

lets talk barra later ig

this set is awkward

not quaq but like

the movepool stuff

[shrewd flax]

Yeah brave bird is ehh

[rain gyro]

could replace with bulk up

and run a bulkier set

but the team mons are solid

just one or another set is weirdish

[shrewd flax]

Yeah that’s exactly what I was about to say lol

[ionic crag]

so what would wall quaquaval

[shrewd flax]

Dozo

Tera water garg kind of

Pex

Water absorb clod, which is rare but exists

Also no grass resists?

Like you can’t switch into flower trick

Whatsoever

[ionic crag]

closest i have to one is pelipper

[shrewd flax]

Which probably still loses to band

[ionic crag]

so what can i remove

[shrewd flax]

First probably pick 2/3between barraskewda, floatzel, and quaq

Having all 3 is redundant

[ionic crag]

i think id remove quaq because it is too slow and might die before it can sweep

but what do i add over quaq then

[daring violet]

if anyone needs a team to be rated ill be free for the next 2 hours just @ me

[ionic crag]

https://pokepast.es/991b00390fe86c38 @daring violet could you rate this

[daring violet]

sure so looks like a pretty standard rain build. I think I would go with scald on pelipper over hydro since this a bulky set. I think with barraskewda it be best to go with Aqua Jet for priority over Throat Chop, I understand having Psychic Fangs for screens. Floatzel might be useful to have Liquadation over Brick Break so you don't wear down Floatzel with Wave Crashing. I think Gastro needs Stealth Rock somewhere probably over clear smog. Iron Jugulis over Dragonite because you need a strong special attacker - go with this set:

Iron Jugulis @ Choice Specs
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

• Dark Pulse
• Hurricane
• Earth Power
• U-turn

[ionic crag]

nothing learns scald besides volcanion in gen 9

[daring violet]

yeah my bad i mispoke

i meant surf

I think for rotom, it's fine to keep it are you having problems with clearing entry hazards?

[ionic crag]

yeah

[daring violet]

hatt might be a good option over rotom, you can also go iron treads

im leaning hat because i think you might need another special attacker vs something like dondozo

[ionic crag]

what should hatterene or treads set look like

[wanton root]

Jugu runs hydro>ep on rain

[daring violet]

you can run it, I just pulled the standard set

[daring violet]

With tread I would go with a 252 HP / 252 Sp.def assault vest set with rapid spin, eq, volt switch, knock off / iron head

hatt I'd run Hatterene @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Bounce
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 204 Def / 52 Spe
Bold Nature

• Calm Mind
• Draining Kiss
• filler move over mystic fire
• Psychic

[ionic crag]

i haven't used treads at all so why not use here

[daring violet]

exactly 🙂

I really like tread on rain teams

[velvet path]

https://pokepast.es/9444a404fb6f6682

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[velvet path]

hm

gelp

[daring violet]

honestly team looks really good. I think it might be good to go timid on pult so you can outspeed max speed dragonite (adamant) after 1 dd. I would also consider maybe giving pult hex instead of flamethrower or sball (since both rotom and dengo use status. dozo looks good maybe consider sleep talk but that's not a hard suggestion

[velvet path]

i changed it to modest because chien pao wasn't in the tier anymore

[daring violet]

yup

[velvet path]

should i use thunderbolt on pult

[daring violet]

I personally wouldn't but you could if you feel like you need it

[charred egret]

How's this? First attempt at a balance team

[charred egret]

https://pokepast.es/6bef6146a1077930

[fallen shale]

There really isnt anything 100% reliable but personally i found that as a dedicated check/counter hatterene works very well

Because of nacl's massive hp pool, 0 spa draining kiss heals more than eq does

Both without any boosts

Personally id reccomend 252 hp 252 def cm draining kiss psyshock mystical fire

Covert cloak ofc

[frigid rose]

https://pokepast.es/7c9f5295a8fec3c6

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[frigid rose]

is this a good team? what can i change

[dry edge]

It looks rather similar to this sample https://pokepast.es/06eed233df0907dc, we even had a version with Sash meowscarada.

However all the sets are kinda not there

The Volcarona EVs for example, no idea what those are for. Wisp + Giga Drain is also not veyr good, you want one of them not both. Garganacl is Impish but has no Def EVs. 0 Speed Dragonite is prolly not ideal either.

I would suggest to either try some more standard sets for your mons or try the sample for a bit to see what it does and why it works. Here's an RMT if you want to read a bit more about the structure of the team https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/overgrow-meowscarada-hazard-stack-peaked-1-2042-ft-jolly-volcarona.3714807/

[frigid rose]

okay thank you!

[dense fulcrum]

https://pokepast.es/191ef24164ca9e5f

Thoughts improvements changes?

[strange temple]

Hey

https://pokepast.es/310c0e2bdc7f9cbd

Rate my team and fix it

Was made in a rush btw

[spiral fable]

A; there's no poitn in making a bulky gilmmora as it'll die in one hit to tusk anyways so might as well run sash
B: idk what you're trying to accomplish with meow, but i would recommend band/scarf with uturn and playrough, or boots with spikes
C: salazzle just isn't good

d: i would recommend tusk over treads

[dense fulcrum]

Alright Alright

[spiral fable]

you want infiltator on pult, probably some form of hazard removal especially if race isn't running boots, and probably wisp over wave on wash

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/0182d0020fd7d59b any suggestions

@daring violet

[daring violet]

Very cool team, I think it's pretty good. I think Specs pult can be annoying. I'd say maybe consider going booster energy / scarf valiant to outspeed pult? nothing can really switch in on a specs shadow ball

also missing 4 evs on dondozo

[shrewd flax]

https://pokepast.es/bc1d37f46cf1411f

This team has been pretty successful for me, some problems I kind of have are that garg can be an issue and that pult and gren on the same team can kind of get akward but it’s not a huge deal

[oblique harness]

Volcarona @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Flame Body
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 248 HP / 108 Def / 152 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Quiver Dance
• Morning Sun
• Fiery Dance
• Giga Drain

Here are the bulky EVs to survive banded pult's dragon darts, along with outspeeding tusk and bax without boosts (although you wouldnt stay in against Bax)

[full sparrow]

Is this team good. https://pokepast.es/8ec94f0279c3fe37

[spiral fable]

bit iffy on expert belt on chomp, your wash set is wack af run leftovers/scarf on wash and dont run screen run like wisp and then either trick or tbolt, boots on dirge, if you're running curse run eq, and amoonguss wants like rocky helmet or leftovers, and sludge bomb/clear smog

[full sparrow]

Hmm ok. Thanks for feedback

[sly mauve]

Tried making a hyper offense team. Is it any good and if it's ok what should I do to make it better?
https://pokepast.es/bb3226f1d5ff3ab1

[spiral fable]

no point in having two suicide leads, run grim/orth instead

[proven hare]

It's not HO at all

It's BO

[grizzled scarab]

dunno if is possible but ive wanted to try building team with the 2 unaware walls dozo and clod

https://pokepast.es/cf74bcb95d7efd4b

[sly mauve]

ah ty

[static crow]

trying to make a balance team with valiant as a cleaner, dunno who to add

https://pokepast.es/6e971fc01a652f53

primarily looking for slow volt-turners

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/39c7075de41ccb1a garg or corvi

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[shrewd flax]

Not an actual suggestion, but change your great tusks nickname to sparda…

[sly mauve]

Ok

Ima name Iron vali Eva

[shrewd flax]

Then who will be Nero

[verbal wing]

https://pokepast.es/9ebac3c06e919e60 any advice on how I can improve this team?

[sly mauve]

Gholdengo

[sly mauve]

Chien pao fucks over your whole team

[shrewd flax]

Your team is very similar to this team https://pokepast.es/5a54d88e54f2c6d0

[shrewd flax]

He’s banned

[sly mauve]

ONG?

[shrewd flax]

You didn’t know?

Legit?

[sly mauve]

UBERS

YOOO

I DIDNT KNOW

I can get rid of dozo

Cuz no more chien pao

Hehehehehe

[shrewd flax]

Espathra was also banned same day

[sly mauve]

Woah

Woah

Woah

Bro

I jus made a tech with espathra tech

It was a baton pass set

Bruh

[shrewd flax]

Baton pass has been banned forever lol

[sly mauve]

Damn

So now that chien pao is gone

Removing dondozo

Alr

Should I add a wall breaker

Or wall

https://pokepast.es/38a544506562d870

[shrewd flax]

Isn’t pult kind of a problem for you?

Like if it Tera dragon

[sly mauve]

Scarf vali

Moonblast

[shrewd flax]

Oh forgot about him

[sly mauve]

Yeaj

Dont have alot of checks

Im rank 1.7k

[verbal wing]

https://pokepast.es/04e1bc8387a4edfb any advice on this team?

[spiral fable]

why booster treads? you want it coming in repeatedly to remove hazards

[dry edge]

We can try Tusk > Treads to keep hazards away more reliably. Not sure we need Fire Punch dnite here, maybe Roost instead?

Tera Flying on Dengo should be alr. I would run Wisp Skele instead since you don't need sub for garganacl (you have covert cloak gholdengo) and are a bit weak to Roaring Moon. You can try this

Skeledirge @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Unaware
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature

• Torch Song
• Will-O-Wisp
• Hex
• Slack Off

Maybe some speed if you need to.

[subtle shard]

https://pokepast.es/92a2279228a554fc

been having a lot of fun playing this team, tried it out for charity bowl and did well against a high mid ladder ELO player r1 (close ish loss, partly lost bc team didn't really have tera types and I played safe on some obv switches)

Any thoughts on what to improve this team with? Been thinking curse set for garg and going tera water, but would love some general thoughts

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[astral onyx]

SV OU - https://pokepast.es/24c1e5d1a9f1e41a
teams works well but has some flaws any help?

[verbal wing]

https://pokepast.es/ed1b6d0643125f61 fixed up the team a bit is there anything else I could change to make it better

[young owl]

https://pokepast.es/b97cfb928156b156 this team has been pretty good on ladder but I just want a second opinion @daring violet

[indigo dome]

Do you guys do Doubles OU?

[subtle rose]

there's a seperate section for that iirc

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/2373a19db579223a how is this team

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[strange summit]

https://pokepast.es/d2b99c8438f86a24, Should I remove one of the setup mons for more immediate power or does it work out?

[spiral fable]

why bulk up corv? seems dondozo would be better there

[spiral fable]

no reason to run rocks on two mons

and im a bit iffy aboutt he leftovers but ig you have two hazard removers

[strange summit]

I like the chip damage and slow u-turn, I thought it synergized well and being able to switch in reactively would be huge since I have 3 mons that can setup

[spiral fable]

eh, corv can't switch in too much, and if they predict the corv switch and set up instead you're screwed if pult cant ohko/switch in

[strange kayak]

https://pokepast.es/35e84be2081b4bc6

Any big problems?

[spiral fable]

a: non regenerator pex?

B; two rockers yo uonly need one

c: lo meow
actually thats not too bad but i would still recommend boots

[strange kayak]

Oh
Thanks
Didn't notice
Would probably only miss it when I switched out 💀

[spiral fable]

d: dont think you need cloak on dengo your team can already handle garg

e: very iffy on hydreigon but if you want to run it ig thats up to you

[strange kayak]

What would you recommend as a replacement?
I initially picked it because it has good synergy with Ghold

Actually, I should review a couple of things, hold on

[spiral fable]

i mean what do you want from hydreigon

[strange kayak]

Ground immunity, Dark resist, keep up offensive pressure with U-turn if need be, Draco meteor for dragons

Surf was Moreso specifically for Tusk

[spiral fable]

if you want a turner with a ground immunity wash is right there, and dark resist isn't really all that necessary when you've got pex(and gambit eats you alive anyways)

[strange kayak]

Hmm, good point

[spiral fable]

and out of the dragon types in ou, dragonite both teras usually and can outspeed after a single dance, same with moon, drapault isn't staying in, chomp's usually a suicide lead, bax can theraten with ice shard +1/banded, and if any of them catch you on the switch you're dead anyways

if you want a good dark and dragon counter valiant's right there

[strange kayak]

Dragonite can't outspeed after one dance bc of Scarf, but yeah, true, it wouldn't do what I was thinking most of the time

[strange kayak]

True

[strange kayak]

Oh, yeah, btw
Would replacing Tusk's SR with Bulk Up or earthquake be better

[verbal wing]

https://pokepast.es/3ae94ab12f9ec665 quaquaval team any advice?

[static crow]

https://pokepast.es/9d7ad239ebdd4b8c
added some mons to finish the team

cinderace helps with hazards and acts as a pivot
dragonite acts as potential wincon and helps against grounds
rotom does same and also acts as pivot, and trick can cripple walls the team struggles with

was considering slowking+bax for a slower pivot

[spiral fable]

quaquaval really wants roost, especialy if you're going for a bulky duck
id recommend wisp over twave but thats up to you
no psyshock means you can't deal with the special walls of the tier on valiant
boots on gambit im iffy on since you ideally want to clean up with it so you dont need to switch in often

[spiral fable]

no reason to tera fighting dengo when you're not running focus blast

[static crow]

yeah that makes sense

was more of a defensive thing but another type is probably better

what do you recommend

[spiral fable]

flying is the standard

[static crow]

okay

if im running fly tera should i still keep air balloon

was considering running covert cloak

[spiral fable]

up to you

cloak has its ups and downs, though you already have some mons that can deal with garg just fine
balloon is nice for setting up even easier on tusk

[static crow]

cool, thanks so much for the help

i was kinda worried about garg while building this team cause its whooped so many of my past ones

[frail ether]

https://pokepast.es/427fec8a86770dd3

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[frail ether]

how does this team kill Hatterne?

It just feels like

Grimmsnarl

Screen

Hatterene

Tera Water

Calm Mind

I lose

[sly mauve]

Faya...ting lu has spikes not stealth rock

[verbal wing]

https://pokepast.es/da9c55cbd9fea276 fixed my quaquaval team a bit

[icy birch]

https://pokepast.es/4ff4a4fb3ff05c54 How does my team fare?

[placid seal]

https://pokepast.es/e5bb4f390f85d908 Could someone rate this team and suggest any changes that could be made?

[icy birch]

Assault Vest gives Tusk more longevity,

Booster Energy is better on Valient so you're not locked in

Terra water Hatterene gets decked by Salt Cure

Curse and Wave Crash might be a better combo on Dondozo than Body Press and Liquidation

Either use Covert Cloak or switch to a different Terra on Corviknight (same reason as with Hatterene)

Team is pretty good overall, but can fall apart pretty easily once items and terra are revealed

[lofty quest]

Hi, I made a team for gen 9 ou but idk what I could do to improve it or change to make it better

https://pokepast.es/51e6c958025054e9

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[shrewd flax]

So a lot of these sets are really weird, as well as some of the choices you made

Arboliva for example is a very niche mon

For sets, probably run Draco meteor over dragon dance on hydreigon

And maybe make the set a bit more bulker, go to 168+ speed and put the rest in HP

For hat, make it Tera water, give it lefties or covert cloak if you don’t like garg, replace dazzling gleam and gigs drain for psyshock and draining kiss

And replace trick room for calm mind

And the EVs are weird

[velvet path]

https://pokepast.es/61242a737ab19777

this probaly needs a lot of changes

[shrewd flax]

Put 72 speed and the rest in HP and defense

Dirge needs 4 evs

Probably make S-wing either bulk up or choice band first impression

And if you really like arboliva

Violence (Arboliva) @ Leftovers
Ability: Seed Sower
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 240 HP / 252 SpA / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Substitute
• Giga Drain
• Earth Power
• Tera Blast

This set seems better

[shrewd flax]

I really like the concept of the team

Mixed pult is weird , probably just run Draco meteor over dragon darts

Aside from that the team looks very solid, I’m not a professional rater so hopefully someone else can help you more

[velvet path]

i coppied the utility pult from smogon

[silk hamlet]

darts is what wisp hex runs always

[shrewd flax]

Ok I guess I was mistaken

[dense fulcrum]

https://pokepast.es/0df31f65fc39b295

Thoughts?

[sly mauve]

Hmmm i was told i dont need two hazard users so should I replace Great tusk and ting lu with a wall breaker or make tusk into the wall breaker?

https://pokepast.es/bdf5985f998744a8

[subtle rose]

just do offensive tusk to spin

and rock with ting lu

[sly mauve]

Ah so like banded tusk could work or bulk up over stealth rock

[subtle rose]

Knock > Sr

[sly mauve]

Ah ok

https://pokepast.es/cc811bb8b862f3c8 anything else I need to change?

[subtle rose]

I believe thief on scizor gets technician boost?

And I think you want hdb on bax

otherwise looks mostly fine with the six

[solid kindle]

https://pokepast.es/dd2444ae993cd08e this team is very fun, should i change something?

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[spiral fable]

Paloosand just isn’t good

[solid kindle]

why not?

[upbeat elk]

https://pokepast.es/ac039261dc783739 thoughts, and yes the hydra is supposed to be like that

[spiral fable]

A: your sand is free food for gholdengo
B: gambit, pult, moon, wash, loom, meow, and like 20 others all can easily deal with it
C: there’s just better defensive walls

[spiral fable]

No idea why you’re running assault vest when you’re sacking the utility of roost and plot for just a little bit more bulk that doesn’t even matter because the most common spatackers pult and valiant can still ruin you

[spiral fable]

Also fly pult is trash, lo hydreigon is alright but you’re neither running roost or nasty plot or even draco

[supple forge]

Veluza isn't really good and the only place it might be used is in ho

[spiral fable]

O yeah idk why you’re running orthworm on what looks like bulky offense

[upbeat elk]

i actually calced that the hydra set can take a specs psyshock from valient after terra, same with pult even before terra.

[spiral fable]

Psyshock?

[supple forge]

Doesn't affect lol

[solid kindle]

why is fly on dragopult bad? i thought itd be good for stalling with will-o-wisp or toxic. are you saying i should take roost on hydreigon? what should i replace palossand with and is trick + toxic/flame orb good or is it just funny

[upbeat elk]

lowkey couldnt think of a way to veluza safely in and set up, without shhed tail

[upbeat elk]

after terra

[supple forge]

Shed tail+veluza doesn't fit on a bulky offense

[spiral fable]

A: if you want a two turn move phantom force is right there, and they’re just bad in general since they’re easily exploitable
B: just run nasty plot hydreigon if you’re not running scarf
C: run a physical wall like dozo dirge garg etc

[supple forge]

If there anywhere u runninng veluza is hyper offense

[spiral fable]

So you’re burning Tera, and for what? Can’t even ohko back

[upbeat elk]

terra posion okos valient

i calced it

[spiral fable]

Alright but i still don’t see why you want assault vest

[supple forge]

But due to it being max HP mad spdef u aren't breaking through anything

[upbeat elk]

tbh it was supposed to be lefties but i forgot to update the set

[spiral fable]

Well then why not nasty plot and roost?

[solid kindle]

nothing comes up when i search for dozo dirge or garg

what mons are those

[spiral fable]

Bruh

[solid kindle]

IVE ONLY PLAYED POKEMON BLUE AND GOLD sorry

[upbeat elk]

i mean i could see roost going well over draco or earth power, but tbh this is my first time using hydra and i wanted to try something left field, and i dunno what move to replace over nasty plot

[subtle rose]

Dondozo
skeledirge
garganacl

[solid kindle]

thanks

[spiral fable]

I’d recommend a set of nasty plot Draco dark pulse and ig Tera blast if you really want it

You don’t really have space for roost which is a shame

[supple forge]

I'm pretty sure hydreigon lost roost no?

[upbeat elk]

tbh this set is hella gimmicky and the thought of suprsing any iron valient that switched in on this hydra set is something i find extremely funny

[subtle rose]

Use fcannon tera dark then

er

tera steel*

or tera poison flash cannon

[upbeat elk]

flash cannon doesnt oko and terra poison with levitate still gives me immunity to ground and im pretty sure it can resist some of hydras original weaknesses

[spiral fable]

also full bulk is very risky because you can’t hit too hard which means a lot of set up mons can come in

[subtle rose]

Yes, but then you have to tera to even hurt said valiant

[spiral fable]

Also you’re just a free volc 6-0 switch in

[subtle rose]

As opposed to being able to hit Valiant w/o tera on the switch

It's just unnecessary

[spiral fable]

And if there’s not a valiant you have to burn the Tera anyways because almost every dragon in the tier outspeeds/Teras and can hit back harder

[upbeat elk]

i can try to cut back the evs so that the margins of living a valient is even lower, or i could replace hydra for goodra allowing me to redistribute the evs easier

[spiral fable]

Goodra’s even worse

[subtle rose]

I don't know what aversion you have to like

OU pokemon

But I hope you manage to overcome it

[spiral fable]

Sadly, you can’t always make your favorites work in ou

Which is why there’s lower tiers

[upbeat elk]

tbh i just wanted to try something different

[spiral fable]

Hydreigon is somewhat decent but it’s heavily outclassed by a lot of mons, so you’re going to have to accept that it’s going to not bring as much

[unkempt hill]

hydra is a cool offensive hazards lead

but you cant make it something it isnt

[upbeat elk]

i know that hydra gets outclassed by the dragons in ou, so i tried a gimmicky set

[supple forge]

^

[spiral fable]

Gimmicky sets don’t help performance

[frozen hinge]

On the contrary, it's better to play to their strengths

No point in a niche that does nothing

[unkempt hill]

^

[spiral fable]

It’s better to run with like a slightly worse ou mon than it is to run a set specifically meant to bait one mon

[upbeat elk]

i find it fun to experiment every now and then, but ye i see where your coming from and will probs remove hydra for better mon after a certain point

[frozen hinge]

Experimentation is cool but my advice is when doing so to really think about what the Mon can offer

Or what benefits it has over conventional answers

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/2538ff06f717b593

[frozen hinge]

It usually leads to a more clear idea of how to build around them

Or at least saves you time by dropping them

[unkempt hill]

also hydra isnt even that bad idk what youre talking aboit

like

its getting usage in tours

[spiral fable]

No set up moves on quaval?

[unkempt hill]

as a lead

[sly mauve]

i only bring quaq out when he is gonna get a KO for moxie boost

[upbeat elk]

the issue is i dunno which one mon to replace it for as as soon as hydras gone i get slapped up by valient to the nth degree and volc aswell

[spiral fable]

Quaq isn’t a very strong hitter by itself

And what happens if they just switch out

[subtle rose]

Honestly looks mostly fine

I think you can experiment with the quaq slot

but it looks fine

[sly mauve]

that would be a problem but alot of the time i run he would grab a KO but ill defo try SD after

[subtle rose]

u can try taunt bu stuff as well

which is cool

[spiral fable]

Palafin at home

[subtle rose]

Uh

Sure

or like pivot

Uturn > spinner

u can even replace quaq

[sly mauve]

yeah quaq is defo replaceable

[subtle rose]

the five are so solid that it's like whatever

[sly mauve]

i just want an attacker that can handle tusk fr

and ive wanted to try out quaq for a min

[unkempt hill]

use pao

[sly mauve]

[unkempt hill]

[sly mauve]

still cant belive they banned him

[spiral fable]

Valiant?

[sly mauve]

but i alr have pult as a special attacker it does its job really well

i have a hard time choosing valiants set tbh

[upbeat elk]

gimmicky hydra aside what would i replace hydra for im also considering replacing veluza and orthworm if they dont mesh well with the team

[sly mauve]

might try u turn

ice spinner also handles pult after an aqua step which is nice

i dont enjoy counting on speed ties and i dont wanna get smacked by a SPDef drop on hat and lose

actually not handles it outspeeds tho

[subtle rose]

well nacl handles pult very well

[spiral fable]

physical valiant

[sly mauve]

ngl i threw a bunch of random pokemon i saw in aim and blunder videos and hoped it worked

[subtle rose]

It looks fine yeah

[sly mauve]

always jolly right?

[spiral fable]

probably ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sly mauve]

does valiant need SD?

[subtle rose]

I don't like physical val

[sly mauve]

neither do i

Spirit Break isnt a good stab option imo

[upbeat elk]

https://pokepast.es/141dda7f5a13a028 changed the team, thoughts unsure about ting lu or ceruledge

[sly mauve]

what is ceru for?

also why tera bug?

[subtle rose]

beats tusk

[sly mauve]

rate

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/bc1e336fc5a16260'

[urban coral]

https://pokepast.es/4f8726a9b88b25d2

I have like, zero clue what I’m doing for Context

[honest egret]

I belive there is a separate thread for doubles

[urban coral]

Ah, my bad

[honest egret]

Np

[spiral fable]

i would recommend switching bulk up for rocks on tusk

and flashfire on edge, as well as perhaps tera bug

[honest egret]

https://pokepast.es/02adba9b3943c54c only team member I’m really unsure of is bax, I tried dragonite and pult in his place but they all felt meh. I’ll try amoongus next time. In general washtom and garg can be troubling for this team

[spiral fable]

you have a lot of set up sweepers

and not a lot of immediate power

[charred egret]

https://pokepast.es/eebf89be227ab071

whats your opinion on this team

any improvements I could make

[spiral fable]

its a decent team

[charred egret]

what could be improved?

[spiral fable]

personally im not comfortable with the lack of any set up sweeprs

[charred egret]

im playing balance

maybe hatterene for a good setup sweeper?

[spiral fable]

yeah hatterene's a good pick

[charred egret]

so like the calm mind set instead of the healing wish one?

[spiral fable]

yep

[charred egret]

ok

wb my walls

[spiral fable]

decent

you have to watch out for spatckers but decent

on the flip side, if val goes down you kinda get walled by clod

[charred egret]

well too bad im skill issue

ffs i JUST MISSED ONE ATTACK

AND ROARING MOON SWEEPS

[charred egret]

well i keep losing to setup

so theres a problem

clearly

either with me or with my walls

[spiral fable]

what setup?

[charred egret]

any setup

[spiral fable]

well valiant should be able to kill most +1 set uppers

but if you're still having trouble run dozo/dirge/clod

[charred egret]

im gonna replace hatterene with dridge

[charred egret]

dnite thou

also Idk how to stop them from setting up

[spiral fable]

you could try trick wash

[charred egret]

too weak for my team

it has to be bulky to bring in my wallbreakers

[spiral fable]

then you need an unaware wall

[charred egret]

https://pokepast.es/0c07e09832942330

so hatterene is gone

to favour unaware skeledridge

[spiral fable]

change tera

[charred egret]

yeah i just did it

AMAZING

I JUST TAKE L AFTER L

FROM SWEEPERS

EVEN WITH UNAWARE

IM JUST SKILL ISSYUE

[static crow]

i think i just played against your team maybe

i had a dragonite

maybe im trippin though lmao

[charred egret]

fuck you

Okay im just tilted

sry

[subtle rose]

this is

not the place

[shrewd flax]

Hmm… I agree with Faya, You do have a lot of set up sweepers, but you seem to be going for bulky offense. Either commit to hyper offense by changing tusk to a suicide lead and maybe replacing gren for bulk up quaq, or cut bax and volc for some other mons, idk what if someone else could help this man

[sick path]

new to showdown and looking , loving it & looking to up to my game. just joined discord, found your glimmora team & took it for a test drive. It claps hard. I give it an 11/10.

Had a lot of fun: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8randombattle-1805942520

[subtle rose]

yeaaah.. not the place

that is randoms, by the way, you did not ... use that persons team at all..

[delicate shale]

RMT: https://pokepast.es/9d80c5f03860e2db
Meows:Tempo
Gren: Fast Tempo
Cinderace: Pivot
Fort: kinda surprisingly bulky, usually sack to safely get in another mon in the midgame since it doesn't die early
Geng: it's part poison, also sometimes run fb not rn tho, comes in handy. 10/10, would recommend
DNite: Part flying, espeed is nice and sweeper.

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[static crow]

would dondozo or rotom be better? ik i have whirlwind but setup sweepers have been kicking my ass

[spiral fable]

if you want a bulky spinner that you can sack later that can also rocks and has a steel type move iron treads is better
gengar: completely sat on by clodsire, if you want a special set up sweeper valiant's better, posion types aren't very necessary but if you really want one moth's right there
kinda iffy on the life orb on meow especially with hazards its going to lose hp pretty quickly

[spiral fable]

if you keep losing to set up sweepers dozo's definitely an option, though i did notice you have no way to handle hazards

[static crow]

yeah, i was also struggling with that

i had court change ace, but that didnt account for my hazards

[spiral fable]

yeah honestly i dont like court change i usually run sucker punch on ace

[static crow]

also ive been on a losing streak and gone down 150 points on the latter so that aint helping

[delicate shale]

Why did I forgor about moth

Existing

[delicate shale]

Oh shit wrong chat

[coarse abyss]

thank you... i guess

[sick path]

my bad. yeah it even has randoms in the URL. I sent the wrong replay. feelsbadman. I did track down my brain fart but apparently didn't actually save the replay i meant to. ("battle-gen9ou-1805950531"). thanks for the correction

[sick path]

i did use it and was a really fun match imo--and the other dude was talking mad trash lol--but yeah nothing to show for it. I think it's pretty damn good team tho. thank you. i'm learning despite being a bit redacted

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/300d8b917772ac92

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[sly mauve]

Balanced offense feels like its missing something

[ivory basin]

can anyone help me improve my team?

its my first time building one and i have no experience in this

[spiral fable]

You might want an offensive Tera on breloom as you’re running sash anyways

[ivory basin]

grass?

[spiral fable]

grass or fighting yeah

also you're a bit frail on the special side, as the lack of physical sweepers + not all that strong special attackers might leave you lacking in offense, and weak to mons like pult

[fresh yoke]

hi everyone, I'm new to gen 9 singles (the past few gens I've been playing doubles) and I decided to try to play singles this gen

tried to do a bit of research but I'm not sure about my team

https://pokepast.es/1737332d7226c7ed

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[fresh yoke]

can anyone tell me what should I improve?

[spiral fable]

wave crash is a bit risky i would recommend liquidation but thats up to you
i recommend tera fire over tera fighting pyro ball is more reliable than high jump kick
dont run lo dnite, especially since your only means of "handling" hazards is court change, and run eq instead of dclaw

[fresh yoke]

mmm

ok ok

but what should I use instead of dragonite?

[dry edge]

Hey withergames, this is a really good start for a first team

[spiral fable]

dnite is fine, just run boots instead, with earthquake over dragon claw

[dry edge]

In general Glimmora teams like more offensive stuff, so Dondozo doesn't fit very well here

[fresh yoke]

mmm

thanks

but what do you recommend in dondozo's place'

[dry edge]

You can try something like Kingambit, Roaring, Moon, or other set up sweepers. Here's an example with a Glimmora sample https://pokepast.es/b4f0443d348791f8

[spiral fable]

what about grimmsnarl?

[fresh yoke]

grimm with screens?

[dry edge]

idt you want grimm here tbh

the team is already rather weak to ting-lu

it struggles to position around it

[fresh yoke]

Do i use rotom-wash for ting-lu?

[dry edge]

No you dont have to, you can overwhelm it

[spiral fable]

ting lu isn't a threat per say it'll just sit on your team for a bit before it dies

[dry edge]

Just dont add smth else that also gives ting-lu chances to mess you up

Not really Faya

it whirlwinds everything, wastes turns, puts up hazards

is mad annoying

it even lives a hit of Valiant and whirlwinds, thus wasting the booster energy

[fresh yoke]

do you think I should use talonflame for defog?

[spiral fable]

cinderace can threaten it heavily

[fresh yoke]

yes that's true

[dry edge]

The issue isnt that they cant break pass ting lu

Its that positioning around it is extremely annoying

[spiral fable]

defog isn't that reliable and if you want a defogger id recommend corv

[dry edge]

nothing switches in, and only 1 mon "enjoy" being out against it

Alr lets take a step back like actually lmao

[fresh yoke]

so in that case what's good to use against hazards?

[dry edge]

You don't need Defog on a team like this cause well, its HO

You are putting your own hazards, thats what Glimmora is for

You are fine as is, Glimmora early game will deny hazards and from there you put enough pressure for hazards to not go up

In a SUPER emergency you also have Court Change, that's more than enough

[fresh yoke]

yes that's why I used cinderace

i like a fast pivot who can uno reverse

[dry edge]

yee its good

So ya just try to mess around with the dondozo spot, see what works there that isn't weak to it

Besides that your GLimmora is Jolly instead of Timid, be careful with that

[fresh yoke]

I'm trying to think of a tank but not sure about it

[spiral fable]

also setsu do you think fairy is a good tera on gholdengo

[fresh yoke]

corvi isn't good cuz I already have gholdengo

[dry edge]

Ya I was gonna mention on the Gholdengo you can do smth else like Tera Flying

would greatly improve your stall mu

Also maybe try Max Speed instead of Max HP, see which one works better

[fresh yoke]

do u think I should tera flying?

[dry edge]

Yeah. Tera Fairy was used a bit more when Chien-Pao was in the tier

So you would bait a Crunch, resist it, and KO back with Make it rain

[spiral fable]

tera flying's the standard, allows you to set up on ting lu and severly annoy any stall team

[dry edge]

yee, tera flying turns the tables on ting-lu and clodsire

which are otherwise annoying for gholdengo

[fresh yoke]

mmm

ok thank you

I still need tank tho

[spiral fable]

i mean its ho

hyper offense is all about, well, hyper offense

overwhelm the opponent with constant offensive threats

you don't really need defensive mons

[fresh yoke]

mmm you are right

but since I'm going super offensive do you think i should put grimm for screens?

just for support

[spiral fable]

grimm is alright, but as setsuna pointed out ting lu will be very annoying for your team

[fresh yoke]

I've made a few changes on the team

https://pokepast.es/3ad4c46e53c853d1

what do u think?

[subtle rose]

U need to run moves on glimmora that threatens spinners

And ace is too slow here

[sly mauve]

How is this team https://pokepast.es/e1a62f27a8834831

[fresh yoke]

mmm ok

[subtle rose]

that means energy ball btw

[spiral fable]

I recommend rest over protect

On dozo

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/1dfe66fe8798c09b

how is it?

[verbal wing]

https://pokepast.es/83580f8657fc5cd6 any advice for this quaquaval team?

[static crow]

Why is tusk running fighting Tera if it's not running a fighting move

Other than that looks solid to me

[sly mauve]

Why is tusk not running a fighting move

[dry edge]

Not big on Quaquaval here. Also very weak to Shadow Ball. Maybe SpDef Rotom would help? Prolly with Tera Dark just in case

The tusk is fine btw, just yeah maybe change the tera to smth like Water that can help against Baxcalibur in an emergency

[sly mauve]

???

[spiral fable]

might want knock off over body press on tusk, but thats just personal preference

[sly mauve]

ok

[sly mauve]

anything else?

[spiral fable]

nothing that's really outstanding

[sly mauve]

alr

thank u

[knotty loom]

https://pokepast.es/c81a13bc8b850ac0 whomst should i remove for a hazard remover

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[spiral fable]

orthworm

but your team is also kinda all over the place

you've got worm and glim, so it looks like ho, but then youve also got like ting lu and wash, and not a lot of offense

furthermore sash on edge is very risky and not going to pay off often

[low quarry]

https://pokepast.es/12f616a92f38083f https://pokepast.es/7d6e998319f43411 I just really like psychic types lmao

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[dry edge]

Hey, remember one of the rules of the channel is to NOT post other peoples teams.

[low quarry]

o h

[balmy aspen]

First time buildin a team for myself and I will take any feedback on it

https://pokepast.es/910ec353bae7ae80

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[spiral fable]

why thunder instead of flamethrower on pult?
why assault vest azumarill? what does assualt vest help with?
might want spikes on meow if you're running boots, but that's up to you

[balmy aspen]

I honestly had no idea what to put on azumarill

what would you put on azumarill?

[spiral fable]

banded or drum sitrus berry

[balmy aspen]

what should I remove for it?

belly drum

[spiral fable]

probably either liquidation or superpower, up to you

[balmy aspen]

I like having the coverage personally so I think Ill swap liquidation

[spiral fable]

actually just swap superpower

if something's suriving your stabs after a belly drum its going to be a unaware mon, and all of them can be hit better with play rough/liquidation anyways

[balmy aspen]

ah ok ok

[young zenith]

https://pokepast.es/bb412b06c67c8b35 ive been doing okay with this team but sometimes i have struggle with switching and feel like im relying on reads too much

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[spiral fable]

why first impression on hax if you're going for a dance
there's probably better dancers than haxorus(like dnite)
your only hazards being toxic spikes might be a problem

why are you afraid of meow

you have corv

you're esntially removing 1/3rd of your coverage to hit one mon, only on the first turn, that can easily switch out

[subtle rose]

yeah, but u want a dd mon to actually dd and do stuff

if u are giving up coverage

ur dd scary mon is not as effective