[DO NOT USE][ARCHIVED] SV OU Rates

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[drowsy mural]

Honestly feel like arboliva spdef fat instead of an attacker despite the opportunity with sun but idk

Spdef with strength sap

[dry edge]

Chatot

It just seems too slow tbh

Specs Valiant seems like a pain for example

No Moonblast switch in

Volcarona also looks really scary

You can try Tera Fire Iron Hands

Helps vs Rona and resists Moonblast if you need to

[drowsy mural]

Yoo that's what I asked in general comp too

With fire I won't get burned either

[dry edge]

But ya not very sold on this. Arboliva + Espathra might be too gimmicky

[drowsy mural]

Dang rly

Guessing it's only good behind screens

[dry edge]

I think it's moreso the set up itself being gimmicky, not sure you can rely on having Grassy Terrain

Specially not vs something that Espathra actually wants to be up against

Like if a Cinderace is the thing that OHKOd the Arboliva

I doubt you want your Espathra in

[drowsy mural]

Ic

Even with the def boost ?

[dry edge]

252 Atk Cinderace Pyro Ball vs. +1 252 HP / 252+ Def Espathra in Sun: 178-211 (45.1 - 53.5%)

[frozen hinge]

possibly still just a 2hko or ace can uturn into something better equipped

[dry edge]

Ig it could be worse but yee

[frozen hinge]

not particularly a good spot in general

[drowsy mural]

Sheesh

Yeah that's solid dmg

Too solid

[dry edge]

With your spread you also tie with Ace at +1 funily enough

[drowsy mural]

So the espathra arboliva core itself isn't reliable in general

[dry edge]

Ya, it's a bit too much set up imo

It can work in a bit of games for sure but

It might just fall flat in others

[drowsy mural]

If I was fighting an HO id fall apart before setting up

Gotcha

[frozen hinge]

seed + espathra is something better suited to ubers or if the tapus return at some point

[drowsy mural]

I'll scrap this one and try something else then

Thanks

[night zodiac]

https://pokepast.es/2751558b0c17e79d tried to build/re-create a team with Scarf Glim and AV Azu, thoughts?

[tacit wraith]

https://pokepast.es/338ec64114f0608f this has been pretty solid, i just feel like it could be missing something, can i get some suggestions please ? :D

[night zodiac]

Adjusted the sets a bit on what I figured might just be generally better
https://pokepast.es/26956d295bbcf18f
Thoughts? (Ping whenever ya see this ty :p)

[supple forge]

I think body press/sleep talk>protect would be nicer here on dozo

[night zodiac]

Noted

Ty :p

[subtle rose]

lemme see

[night zodiac]

@subtle rose @royal ravine if y'all wouldn't mind having a look

[subtle rose]

i think there's a pretty noticeable pace mismatch here

[night zodiac]

I was thinking I didn't really have a good way to beat opposing dondozo

Really?

[subtle rose]

azu is viable

on this team, unsure

like once again, pace mismatch

you have a suicide lead + dengo

okay cool

and then you have a couple blobs

[night zodiac]

Noted

[subtle rose]

you can do one or the either

[night zodiac]

Azu's much more fast paced then smth like dondozo or ting lu

[subtle rose]

indeed

[night zodiac]

So if I went the bulky route what would I swap in that slot?

[subtle rose]

it looks like

a fairly standard hstack

glimm + azu go together

and the others go together

so i would remove glimm and azu and go from there

i would

take a rocker + something that abuses hazards

then make ting lu spikes, and make dengo bulkier

[night zodiac]

Bulkier how?

Wait

Nvm

Misread that

[subtle rose]

like, not scarfed

recover stuff

to attempt to block spin as much as possible

[night zodiac]

Smth like spdef? Or bulky nasty plot with cover cloak or smth

[subtle rose]

yea

ccloak sounds good tbh

nacl is always annoying

[night zodiac]

Noted

[night zodiac]

And what things actually fit the description of abusing hazards?

[subtle rose]

things that force switches

[night zodiac]

Noted

[cursive tiger]

time travelers and oracles can 🙄

[main mauve]

https://pokepast.es/0763df54389b3c16 first time attempting ace

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[tacit wraith]

https://pokepast.es/338ec64114f0608f this has been pretty solid, i just feel like it could be missing something, can i get some suggestions please ? :D

[main mauve]

Imo tera fairy on wash for pao

[unkempt halo]

This bot moment

[agile lava]

hello

[dry edge]

No removal seems rather rough and Clodsire+Ting Lu is a bit too redundant

[subtle rose]

omg, sv ou rater 3d!

[agile lava]

ill look at des' team setsu

[dry edge]

Kk gl

[agile lava]

ok so a few things @main mauve

1st id go leftovers on kingambit with tera fly

it helps it be a more reliable tera user as the extra power from sucker wont really change the way its beaten

[main mauve]

Kk

Done

[agile lava]

what i mean by this is, typically people will have like a great tusk or iron valiant or chien pao of their own

to revenge kill

and tera dark wont let u kill these things, but tera fly can let u resist/take neutrally the hit theyre going for and kill them back

flying is very good as it shits on non bu tusk

[wanton root]

while you're here can you take a look at this

https://pokepast.es/b24adf03741b6712

[agile lava]

sure just gimme a minute

[wanton root]

sure np

[main mauve]

What else

[agile lava]

i think valiant is a big ass threat @main mauve so id also recommend going tera fire tusk

to be able to take a moonblast and hit it

in a pinch

and tera steel rotom

to twave it

[main mauve]

Oh true

[agile lava]

while also being able to

deal w dragon

i think the chien mu is fine w

fire tusk + amoonguss

er

[main mauve]

Yea I was gonna ask

[agile lava]

fire tusk + kingambit

[main mauve]

Abt pao

https://pokepast.es/f7608d1c88b052da

[agile lava]

this team is solid, i think id rather go w tera dark clod > ting lu

for espathra

[wanton root]

ig that makes sense

[agile lava]

its just more reliable

in my experience

tinglu can get chipped

by other stuff

[wanton root]

I've noticed washtom is a problem tho

anything I can do about that

[agile lava]

rotom is doing like 40

to clod

and if u tera its completely walled

[wanton root]

true ig

should I run defense investment on clod

to take val shock better

bc idt I have another answer

[agile lava]

hmm

wdyt of

spdef corv

and physdef garg

[wanton root]

probably works

physdef garg im iffier on

[agile lava]

really how come

[wanton root]

bc clod is already a less consistent pult check

[agile lava]

u can throw

cloak on corv

[wanton root]

still willing to try it tho

[agile lava]

itll take a lot of predicitons

from pult

to break this team

[wanton root]

may just have ptsd from ss

how much spdef on corv

[agile lava]

max

and run like 166 speed

for good measure

like speed stat

not evs

[wanton root]

what does that hit

here's what I have so far btw

https://pokepast.es/94e43875ce0bed62

[tacit wraith]

which seems to be more important for my team ? i like both of their utilities. so...

i would assume tinglu since mixed defender

i would need a6th then

probably someone to beat garg

idk

[agile lava]

it outslows

other corvd

corvs

[tacit wraith]

3d do you happen to have any suggestions ?

maybe hatt ?

[wanton root]

Every corv I’ve seen is minspeed lol

[agile lava]

kinda tired my bad

dont wanna thin

its 1:20am

[tacit wraith]

it ok

[dim charm]

https://pokepast.es/cff385e36b49a6bb

just a beginner so tbh anything helps

[vast nexus]

https://pokepast.es/f1408c831996eadd this team is pretty decent in my opinion I've been using it for a few hours now

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[green citrus]

This isnt bad at all yeah

Anything youve felt super weak to?

If change the tera types tho

[vast nexus]

I've had a little trouble against great tusk but I'll usually save chein for that

[green citrus]

Dark chien with crunch over sucker, fighting or fairy dengo, flying or fire treads, ghost or steel rotom

U could opt to drop treads and rotom for a more offensive core, smth like tusk and dnite maybe

Also maybe try mixed/calm mind valiant. Moonblast way 2 good

[silent parcel]

https://pokepast.es/734bbd75be405358

hows this team for Doubles OU?

[silk hamlet]

Post it in the doubles ou thread instead

[silent parcel]

oh there is one? my b

[silk hamlet]

Yea

[silent parcel]

i sorted by SV OU but i dont see it

o nvm

[tropic ice]

https://pokepast.es/a13625bae3c7f83c
dunno how good it is in practice, but chilly reception+rotom seemed decent

[shrewd flax]

https://pokepast.es/610572574bde94e0 Garg hazard stack, only Mon I’m really unsure about it chien-pao

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[daring violet]

id make clodsire water absorb because i feel like the team could be weak to rain teams, and go with black sludge insteads of boots on clod. whats wrong with chien pao?

[shrewd flax]

Thanks! I don’t feel like he has the opportunity to come in and put work because of how frail he is, especially since he is band and our hazard control is limited to rapid spin.

[daring violet]

fair, I really do like pao on the team its a good breaker, i dont think you need to run band, I would say if you think it's too frail maybe go for heavy duty boots

also i think cinderace w boots would also be a good option

if you're just not feeling pao

[shrewd flax]

I’ll try both, thanks for the suggestions!

[daring violet]

no problem!

[rose hinge]

https://pokepast.es/9165d8048d330639 I basically just looked for threatening mons that appreciate being pivoted around by rotom and dragapult and its working well but i feel like iron treads isnt doing as much as i want it to and that rain teams are a really hard matchup to try beat

[plush yacht]

https://pokepast.es/358f31919da7722d

[red dirge]

@daring violet do u have advice for esdesuu

[daring violet]

hello, so i do think valiant should go with aura sphere here over blast because of accuracy and since this isn't the scarf set you're still getting very solid power. i think hatterane should go with psyshock > psychic to hit sp.def clodsire and pex harder. Rotom should go with a protect will o wisp variant.

[rose hinge]

is flash cannon that useful on gambit

[daring violet]

kingambits set should be standard, i dont think the current set is viable. ill paste it (that and the rotom set)

[daring violet]

i think great tusk should have leftovers or boots

[rose hinge]

could you help me out a bit too XD

[daring violet]

Kingambit @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Supreme Overlord
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 144 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Swords Dance
• Iron Head
• Kowtow Cleave
• Sucker Punch

Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature

• Volt Switch
• Hydro Pump
• Protect
• Will O Wisp

[daring violet]

sure just give me a min

[plush yacht]

ty very much ill try em

[daring violet]

go with protect > thunderbolt on rotom, i think treads should carry Stealth Rock > Iron Head, i would also go with 252 DEF instead of 252 SPE for rotom

[rose hinge]

ah good point

so would i dump the 4 leftovers in spdef?

[daring violet]

honestly everything else looks good

u can put the 4 in spe

[rose hinge]

kk

keep the timid nature btw or not?

[queen oriole]

@rose hinge no reason to keep timid nature since you’ve gotten rid of it’s speed, make it bold or something

[rose hinge]

will do

that gives a good check to physical attackers

[knotty cargo]

https://pokepast.es/4747aaea8f055640 OU Team ft. Iron Thorns, because iron thorns is just mecha Godzilla and that’s rad as fuck

[viscid pier]

what's Tera Bug for

[knotty cargo]

Resisting fighting and ground

Which will make him explode

[viscid pier]

well, by resisting fighting and ground, you're now weak to Specs Pult and CB Chien-Pao

which outspeed it because Iron Thorns is like, 400 at +1

[knotty cargo]

Damn

[viscid pier]

because after rocks damage, Draco Meteor is an OHKO and Chien-Pao just has to Tera and click Dark Boosted Crunch

I would just run Electric to have 1 immunity or Flying

[knotty cargo]

Alright

[viscid pier]

Electric is probably the best type for it for an extra STAB boost and removing the 4x ground weakness and fighting weakness, and water weakness

other than that, the team looks fine

Iron Thorns obviously isnt the best, but I think this is fine support for it

[knotty cargo]

Hands?

Nah I know what u mean

[viscid pier]

Thorns*

[knotty cargo]

I just think Thorns is rad

[viscid pier]

However, a weakness is Espathra, Pult and Gholdengo

[knotty cargo]

I see

[viscid pier]

what you could potentially do is replace amoonguss for either Defensive or Scarf Dengo, then you can either keep defensive utility with Thunder Wave support, or have some good speed control on the team. Either way, having Dengo answers your espathra problem. But you do need an immediate Specs Pult and Gholdengo switch in

[knotty cargo]

Hmmm, tricky

[viscid pier]

you don't actually need Great Tusk here tbh

if you replace it with Ting-Lu, you have an immediate answer to Pult and Dengo, and other special breakers, with hazards and good utility

you have Cinderace with Court Change for the situations where you would need that

[knotty cargo]

Oh yeah true

[viscid pier]

so there's not much to worry about there

and with balloon dengo, you can play around rapid spin

or simply run defensive

[knotty cargo]

I see

[viscid pier]

https://pokepast.es/3d8d7cc3f3c5b07a

this is what you could run

if you opted to run for scarf dengo or NPlot, then perhaps run Phys Def Dondozo for immediate defensive measure

but change Iron Thorns Tera Type as well, forgot to do that

[knotty cargo]

I assume I can put court change on cinder somewhere as well?

Maybe instead of sucker since I have pao for that

[viscid pier]

yeah over sucker punch or HJK, doesn't matter which too much.

You have sucker already ye

so, perhaps keep hjk

then I would say just test it out and play around with it

preserve Iron Thorns for late game clean

[knotty cargo]

Alright

Thank you

[viscid pier]

Cinderace might not end up doing anything because of the hazard stack on Ting-Lu so if not, you can replace that with smth else

no worries mate

[knotty cargo]

I tried it out a bit and the team seems to struggle against hatt, am I just misplaying or it an actual threat to the team

[viscid pier]

chien-pao should be able to overwhelm it with Thorns but otherwise, I would run offensive dengo

[dim charm]

https://pokepast.es/cff385e36b49a6bb no response before so yea, is this alright or changes need to be made?

[rose hinge]

problem is that if both sides have hazards up court change isnt too useful

[wanton root]

@fallow crag

[viscid pier]

yeah that's true, which is why I said Cinderace may not end up doing much. But without changing too much of the original team, we should see how this paste ends up doing as it currently is before making any more major tweaks

[dim charm]

not the best because this is probably my first proper Pokémon team lol

maushold could be replaced yea I just kept it since i think it’s okay

[supple forge]

Couple things
I would rather go power gem and be special attack invested for glimmora as it has a much higher special attack
Kinggambit iron head>iron defense
Gargancl serves as a strong wall with salt cure and recover

Not an attacker

[knotty cargo]

I’ve also noticed my team kinda just explodes to chien pao

Nothing can handle it

[dim charm]

ah i meant to use iron head for kingambit sorry

[dim charm]

also thanks

[dim charm]

alr

[dim charm]

are the ivs on kingambit alr or should i go atk spd instead of hp atk

https://pokepast.es/cff8992b8e96ccc3

updated it

[supple forge]

Restalk on maushold doesn't really work I think it's better to run a dark move to be able to hit things like gholdengo

And I notice that u haven't changed any of the tera types

[dim charm]

oops yea i didnt think abt that

[dim charm]

maushold is justfor the population bomb im probably gonna replace ot

any tips on what to replace maushold with

[onyx sun]

https://pokepast.es/ed6ad8cc11fd21f0

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New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @frigid sierra, @agile lava, @daring violet, @granite bear, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[onyx sun]

Someone rate this team

[agile lava]

is this supposed to be post home sv

[onyx sun]

Ye

https://pokepast.es/ed6ad8cc11fd21f0

[hot grail]

we don't rate metas that don't exist

[supple forge]

I don't think anyone will have a grasp of the post home meta yet

[dim charm]

any idea what i can replace with maushold?

[agile lava]

^

[supple forge]

I was only mentioning the small problems I could see, I think you should wait for a competitive rater to give better advice

[dim charm]

ah ok thanks

[agile lava]

https://pokepast.es/cff8992b8e96ccc3

is it this team?

[dim charm]

ye

[dim charm]

yep

maushold need replacement, i just added it temp

[agile lava]

damn i have to go

[dim charm]

ah

[onyx sun]

Bro

[agile lava]

i’ll try to rate it again later tonight

my bad

[dim charm]

yea np

take your time

[supple forge]

Just some last things, I don't think wp on bax works that well, I prefer runninng hdb and the meowscarda set looks a lil weird

[dim charm]

hh ill just run iron valiant maybe

[dim charm]

ah

alright

whats wrong w meowscarda? just asking

seemed to work well

flow trick and knock off are for stab

play rough i added for potential fighting types

i think ill run great tusk or maybe chien pao

[knotty cargo]

Yeah I’m not gonna sugarcoat it, iron thorns hasn’t done shit this whole time

[dim charm]

https://pokepast.es/a0c9468aee79a8d6

[severe shard]

Chien pao looks weird here, but ye any unreleased mons put into a team won’t be rated.

[onyx sun]

But why

[severe shard]

Unreleased

it technically isn’t part of the meta

[severe shard]

Instead of sash glim you could use it as a lead with air balloon to be able to stay in or come in on ground moves. Plus side about using balloon is once knocked or hit physically you’re already adding tspikes due to its ability. Spiky shield could be replaced with mortal spin as a way to remove hazards and poison your opponent, otherwise it’s a standard glimmora set (you could also sr over spikes as well if you’d like). Almost forgot make it tera grass to be able to live ground moves.

Bax item could be replaced with HBD to be immune to incoming hazards, I’d also run it with jolly nature as with jolly you’re outspeeding pult rather than with adamant.

Meow is kind of a weird one here, the set itself has throw offs such as quick attack and miracle seed since the usual is HBD with pivot. IMO I don’t think meow is that strong enough to really deal damage especially on a team like this one where I assume this is HO. I think you could easily replace this with a heavy hitter like Chien or even dd dnite over it.

[severe shard]

Garg also feels awkward in a HO team, I can see it easily being replaced with like gholdengo to help keep hazards on the field as it prevents defog usage + ghost/steel typing to block spin/mortal spin. Gholdengo with choice scarf can fit nicely into this imo.

Great Tusk looks fine, you can also consider using lefties bulk up set also which is kinda fun to use but this works too.

As for gambit the set is fine the way it is for sure, personally I think running speed on this could help you especially vs corviknight. What I typically like to do with gambit is have it creep over corvi in terms of speed here so like 144 or 152 speed (corvi has 170 so this is creeping over it around 172-4). While the rest goes into HP, I’d also have gambit have its tera type be like either fairy or even flying so you won’t be hit by corvi or general fighting types.

https://pokepast.es/cf4d6c5908ba3d18

https://pokepast.es/46e52adbf83bdfe4 (version 1 with valiant) / https://pokepast.es/8598a73bdadc90c5 (version 2 with valiant)

@dim charm

Made like three different versions of it

I just realized glim is naive, change that to timid nature instead.

The first one is basically the suggestions I’ve originally given, changed glasses to lefties on gambit as a way for longer survivability with heals but glasses is still nice on it. It’s really up to you if you want speed for corv as well.

The second one is I replaced bax with dnite and made the 3rd slot a special offensive mon (Iron Valiant) as I find it also very great on HO teams and it’s one way for you to hit dozo better than your other phys mons and you deal with fighting types better as you wanted with your meow. There’s another version with bax.

One last thing you can do is you can have tusk have stealth rocks also or be lefties, it’s all up to you for those changes.

[weak fulcrum]

https://pokepast.es/21faebaeb2876481
rain

idrk anything about teambuilding this gen i just kinda took someone elses team and changed all the mons

[deft palm]

https://pokepast.es/6e4aa510bff16d13

would like to ask how i can fix this team
mon that has been giving me trouble is espathr

[stark ivy]

https://pokepast.es/3f0fb1f32ef08cac

im new to this kind of stuff

[severe shard]

Rain is a fun style to try out imo, for this there isn’t too much to fix maybe like 2-3 things perhaps to kinda better the team overall.

Firstly, Pelipper evs and item is fine but rain dance in one of the slots isn’t needed, you could easily replace it with hurricane as you’re able to hit mons harder with cane under rain like amoong or dozo. Surf is nice here, you can also run knock on it as well if you’d like but it’s good. With tusk I think instead of body press you could use earthquake instead to hit ghold/glimm better and for general damage. I think the big thing that can go could be Clodsire tbh, tusk is already your hazard setter here so clod also having sr makes it an useless slot in a sense. You could add a mon that hit hard under rain or one that can pivot around with your team more. I’ve seen wattrel a few times on rain teams as a means to use hurricane + volt switch but I think what we can do here instead is have clod be replaced with specs Dragapult, you could run thunder also as it does get that along with u turn as well, it’s also good for the team as it can threaten opposing Dondozo out since that’s what your team mainly can’t touch all too well.

[severe shard]

I forgot that quaq can use sd so you could use that over Bulk up tbh. There are other swift swim abusers as well like nasty plot golduck which can be threatening and banded barraskewda if you ever wanna use those over it also.

[weak fulcrum]

ok ok

ty

[severe shard]

Np

[weak fulcrum]

i like floatzel i think its funny

[severe shard]

It’s p cool tbh

I underestimate it a lot ngl, it deals a lot even to Dondozo when it uses tera water in rain.

[wanton root]

if you wanna be heat tho

use golduck

[severe shard]

Golduck is very cool in rain for sure

Nasty plot and you just go crazy with it overall.

[wanton root]

I usually just do lorb 4a

hydro/focus/ibeam/knot

[severe shard]

I don’t find myself using focus all too much so I stick with Nasty plot for that reason.

[wanton root]

makes sense

[frozen hinge]

Focus hits like what? Blissey?

Seems like a non issue

[severe shard]

It’s not worth it no, since it all dark types rn is already being hit hard by its water move like ting lu

[wanton root]

yea I see the point

plot sounds better honestly

tho I do wanna mess around with sub 3a too

[weak fulcrum]

what if i put covert cloak on quaquaval

[severe shard]

Don’t think it’s worth it as it like lefties for general survivability, if you have trouble with garg your best bet would be to trick it with ghold

If it’s not water tera your team shouldn’t have a big issue against it

[weak fulcrum]

what do i switch into annoying spatk threats

[severe shard]

You do kinda make a point there, we need a smth to take a special attacker.

https://pokepast.es/0627d420e07d86d1 / https://pokepast.es/8983d29459939e04 @weak fulcrum

Clod lowkey makes sense now kek

You could also just try out max spdef garg set also which could help with that also and if you wanna make use of rain you could run golduck over pult here as well.

Psychic can also be run on golduck here if you wanna hit mons like pex

[weak fulcrum]

is there any way to keep quaquaval or?

[severe shard]

You can, you’d be weak to the dozo however which is smth that probably won’t help for the team.

What we could do is perhaps replace tusk and have clod or garg (whoever you go with) and use quaq over tusk in this case.

And have clod/garg be the one to run SR instead

[weak fulcrum]

garg is less passive right?

[severe shard]

Or we could stick with this version originally but have clod stick with toxic instead. We’d still have that issue with don however.

[weak fulcrum]

is quav and duck okay?

[severe shard]

Garg chips teams down a lot due to salt cure so ig it is

I usually run like stealth rocks, protect, salt cure, and recover

[severe shard]

I’d personally run floatzel over quaq but since you’d prefer quaq on this then ya it can work

[weak fulcrum]

i see

i want it to be a more offensive team

doesnt water absorb clod kill donzo or am i wrong

[severe shard]

You absorb dozos water moves

[subtle rose]

and do nothing back

[severe shard]

^

[subtle rose]

they set up six curses and pp stall u while asleep

[severe shard]

I mean you can toxic it

[weak fulcrum]

oh i see

[severe shard]

But it’s not gonna be a pretty outcome

[subtle rose]

not to mention bpress will still wrecku

most of the time

cuz ur a clodsire

hi velvet

[weak fulcrum]

ill just replace tusks

thanks

[severe shard]

https://pokepast.es/920dfdadaccf4bea

Smth like this @weak fulcrum ?

Wash is a nifty pivot and can come in on dondozo and threaten it out.

[weak fulcrum]

oh cool

i am a huge rotom fan too but i havent used it at all this gen

[severe shard]

But it’s not rain with another water mon so quaq/golduck is better for that style over pult probably

[severe shard]

o/

But ye hopefully this helps you a bit more :> @weak fulcrum

[weak fulcrum]

thank you

[severe shard]

Ngl this would be my first time tackling rain

[weak fulcrum]

ill test it out

[severe shard]

It looks fun

[weak fulcrum]

my playstyle is spamming broken buttons

so i like rain

[severe shard]

Makes sense

[weak fulcrum]

wait

are ground immunes required in this gen?

[severe shard]

Rotom has levitate

And you have pelipper also

[weak fulcrum]

i mean not ground immune

elec immune

[severe shard]

Uh not rly, there’s not a lot of electric types as of rn.

[weak fulcrum]

oh i see

[severe shard]

They won’t do much anyways since we got a lot of new grounds this gen

[weak fulcrum]

500 new relevant ground types

[severe shard]

Fr

Edited it a bit with bulk up over swords dance on quaq @weak fulcrum, figured it’s better since we are running defense cc.

[night zodiac]

https://pokepast.es/740d26c1b4f8b433 (sorry if I'm interrupting anything) tried to put smth together with scarf glimmora and av azu

I honestly had no idea what I was doing with the last two slots, but I just knew I had to use em to deal with dondozo and opposing rotom-w
(Can just ping me if/when ya see this)

[dim charm]

thx alot

ill use the teams you gave me if you dont mind?

what do you think abt me using 1st team but replacing bax with valiant

or dragonite

[severe shard]

That’s fine, these teams are meant for you

[dim charm]

because i think ice is covered by cat

[severe shard]

Ye

[dim charm]

what do u think

im no expert

[severe shard]

That’s p much the idea of Chien, I kinda like to use Chien as a sweeper over bax a bit more

[dim charm]

so valiant or dragonite

hm

Also thanks for adding the needed tera types

[severe shard]

I think valiant

Because you need options to hit Dondozo

Cause phys mons won’t do as much vs it

[dim charm]

oki thanks

Iron Valiant @ Choice Specs
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Moonblast
• Psyshock
• Thunderbolt
• Shadow Ball

u sure abt choice specs?

nevermind i shouldnt ask

[severe shard]

Specs generally hits hard af, but you can def run booster if you want.

[dim charm]

hm

ill test w booster

if nit specs

thanks alot

[severe shard]

Booster ghost tera is probably the way if you do prefer it

[dim charm]

do u mind if i dm you in the future or advice or do u prefer ping

[severe shard]

Sure

I don’t mind either

[dim charm]

thank

love ur pfp

[severe shard]

Np

Thx xd Chien is cool (my fav)

[light echo]

my fav is maushold but I couldn't get it above

top 70 sadly

[dim charm]

just to re check chien tera is dark?

[light echo]

I got to top 70 with maushold HO 2 weeks ago

[severe shard]

Ya

[dim charm]

https://pokepast.es/6b2b161f89234556

final team

yay

thanks alot velvet

[severe shard]

No problem, hf with it

[subtle rose]

basedvet

[severe shard]

Oh ya final note: make glimm timid nature

[dim charm]

still considering sash with glim so 100% will get toxic spikes twice

[dim charm]

oops ok

[severe shard]

I didn’t notice it before until now

[subtle rose]

velv hows the ost prep going

[dim charm]

yes np

[severe shard]

It’s happening rn

[subtle rose]

i have no ost prep help

[severe shard]

I’m building teams while rating

[subtle rose]

my only ou teams are ones bloo or scar passed

[light echo]

velvet make a maushold team

I use maushold well but can't make good teams w it

[severe shard]

I have one, need to update it since it has chi yu

[light echo]

ig top 70 is good enough

[severe shard]

very good

[light echo]

also I clipped blunder with it

6-0 swept with lead maushold

[dim charm]

velvet i try balloon a while if not i think ill get sash back maybe

[severe shard]

Ya That’s fine

[dim charm]

alright

[subtle rose]

https://pokepast.es/6d732fd3122c004a okay, double ghost + chainchomp voltturn

well

yeah

[dim charm]

thanks alot again

first proper team

[subtle rose]

i think notable threats: cpao, cuz i use hands to switch into it and I have two ghost types for sball entry
opposing pult / dengo: i have no ghost resist
val: scarf dengo only lasts me so long

Usually I can outoffense all of these mons

but it is not easy

[severe shard]

Have you considered using gambit over iron hands

[subtle rose]

I don't like gambit

[severe shard]

And tusk here, there’s this fun set going around and I personally like it also. It’s bulk up spin eq knock

[subtle rose]

oh yeah, another one on the threat list: offensive tusk

i just go my own and try to trade

[severe shard]

You could try to play around with that perhaps

[subtle rose]

usually can

wash -> pult

or smth

[severe shard]

I feel like

You could rotom + ting lu on this team instead of garchomp

[subtle rose]

this team definitely lacks in defensive backbone

[severe shard]

It helps out your ghost resist

[subtle rose]

Yeah

ting-lu is fine

I've just been trying to optimize a chainchomp offense

appreciate any suggestions

I could make it a pretty standard dengo hstack w ting lu

[silk hamlet]

Chainchomp offense doesnt need that many breakers fyi

[subtle rose]

but i have that already

HMm.

unsure

will think about it

[fringe patrol]

https://pokepast.es/0b307cdc83f0feb1 thoughts on my ou team?

[silk hamlet]

2-3 defensive mfers 1-2 heavy hitter that takes advantage of chainchomp existing and 1 speed control

Generally works

[fringe patrol]

Ironically I’m struggling anytime I find a clodsire

Or any unaware mon

[subtle rose]

wouldnt run that ace set

I think u need to capitalize on volt turn + hazards into defensive mons

so pyro hjk cchange uturn

make corv standard bbird uturn

make ledge boots, probably

[fringe patrol]

I’m sorry English terms please

[subtle rose]

ceruledge

heavy duty boots

[fringe patrol]

Ah

[fringe patrol]

And ace put uturn on it?

[subtle rose]

over sd yeah

[fringe patrol]

Got it

[fringe patrol]

What does this mean

[subtle rose]

to break down defensive unaware mons like

clodsire or dondozo

who dont run boots usually

[fringe patrol]

Ah

[subtle rose]

you have to spam pivot moves like volt switch and uturn

[fringe patrol]

Okay

[subtle rose]

to not let them get a chance to recvoer

[fringe patrol]

Dondo dies fairly easily

[subtle rose]

gholdengo's purpose is to block hazard being removed

i mean clodsire does nothing to corv

ever

[weak fulcrum]

wait i just realized

[subtle rose]

that pokemon is not threatening

[weak fulcrum]

no hazard removal

[fringe patrol]

He’s just a pain in the ass

[subtle rose]

removal less is fine

rain is offensive enough to where that should not matter

[weak fulcrum]

oh ok

[granite bear]

Ping me later to remind me to help you

[fringe patrol]

@granite bear I awaken

[granite bear]

ok so

[strong jasper]

https://pokepast.es/7c81e632330ce55c

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[strong jasper]

opinion?

[granite bear]

you lack speed control and a water resistance here

triple fire is unviable imo

[fallow crag]

If I could suggest anything, I’d change the pult to specs hex and make the rotom
Rotom-Wash @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Electric/Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

• Volt Switch
• Hydro Pump
• Trick
• Thunder Wave

This way you can spread para a lot more easily

[green citrus]

Any reason for tera ground

I know its sample set but i never understood it

[fallow crag]

Oh that’s not the Tera type I meant

[green citrus]

Ghost prob right

[fallow crag]

I prefer electric and fairy personally

Rotom can run a lot

Btw your game plan vs Id garg

Is literally just to trick it with rotom

So you gotta save trick for garg unless it reveals no ID

[strong jasper]

its okay but then i dont have physical attackers

[fallow crag]

Doesn’t particularly matter cause you can break the SpD walls anyways

[strong jasper]

roton is planned as an attacker more than a pivot

thats because bulky waters have me problems

like dondozo

[fallow crag]

Specs pult fixes that issue

Tera ghost plows through it

[strong jasper]

true

[fallow crag]

Letting rotom focus on utility

Which is what it’s best at

Only time I wanna run max SpA rotom is if I’m running trick + Nasty Plot

Which I don’t think is necessary on this team

[strong jasper]

okay

i'll try it

thank you and sorry for my bad english

🫡

[fallow crag]

No worries, your English is better than most of the Americans here

[strong jasper]

ajajajajaj

[granite bear]

i'd probably try to make your team more bulky since you went for ting-lu corviknight with volcarona

https://pokepast.es/005d4a79cccca5de

@fringe patrol

[fringe patrol]

Seeing that example my worry is there a big window of lack of being able to do physical damage like clodsire, dondozo, skeleridge ones that can take some about of sp damage and heal with unaware

[granite bear]

all those mons loses offensively to dragapult or can't touch pex/ting-lu

[fringe patrol]

Fair enough thank, one momento

[onyx sun]

https://pokepast.es/6ed661ad093b23c5

Pls rate UwU

[fringe patrol]

You only have 5

[granite bear]

yw

[onyx sun]

Its the start

[granite bear]

rotom-w last and it's a decent team

[onyx sun]

Kk

[granite bear]

spread wise there is nothing good besides valiant tho

[onyx sun]

Oh

So

Items and pokemon are good

Evs arent

[granite bear]

pretty much

bold max hp gholdengo has no value here

you can just go max speed max spA

[onyx sun]

Kk

[granite bear]

you can take the pult spread from here

[fringe patrol]

@granite bear https://pokepast.es/07a8f006e8d9c432 thoughts

[granite bear]

and this for tusk

Great Tusk @ Leftovers
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 104 Def / 152 Spe
Impish Nature

• Stealth Rock
• Rapid Spin
• Earthquake
• Knock Off

you outspeed roaring moon at +1 speed

[granite bear]

6-0 by offensive tusk

and sash ceruledge is just bad

sash is a rly bad item overall unless you play some ho or offense

[onyx sun]

Ty ty

[granite bear]

yw

[fringe patrol]

Nahhhhh

Simply kill tusk

[granite bear]

good one

[fringe patrol]

Honestly running sash cerul has worked out really really well for me in the past I normally run Tera grass but I think ice would be better for Tera blast because it deals with dragons and tusk

[granite bear]

it's a gimmick that won't work overtime especially with no hasard remover

[onyx sun]

Shoould I run booster on valient for the speed buff sweep

Or stay speced up

[flat pasture]

https://pokepast.es/2bc679cff4440f02

[viscid pier]

No reason to use Band Roaring Moon. Imo, its only really good on sun. I'd use Chien-Pao for something fast with immediate power

[flat pasture]

What about https://pokepast.es/f21a7d8b15d218c9 ?

[exotic kite]

skeledirge: :3

[flat pasture]

Wdym?

[exotic kite]

you need to patch out fire weakness

id say

[flat pasture]

But which Pokémon should I remove (no Iron Valiant)?

[exotic kite]

fire tera roaring moon is slowly becoming more and more common

[exotic kite]

id change tera on don

[flat pasture]

Which type?

[viscid pier]

I would say change Dodonzo set to Sleep Talk Rest set with Choice Band Pao. The Dengo set is also a bit strange but I think you need choice Scarf for speed control with Pao

because the aim for Valiant is that its a late game cleaner

if you replace Clodsire for something like Ting-lu, you then have something with hazards that can still deal with Pult and Gholdengo

but is just better overall

[flat pasture]

Don't want to lose 25% of my life on rocks

[green citrus]

its worth when they lose 100% of their life everytime u click

[viscid pier]

Look playing with rocks is just part of the game, you can clear them with Corv or you can replace it with something that has a bit more of offensive utility like Cinderace to swap them. Choice Band Chien-Pao is just a better mon for this team, it hits hard and gives immediate power

something which you need here

if you want to support Valiant

[green citrus]

boots chien is the least threatening kind rn

also on CB if u tera dark youre not rocks weak anymore

this team is heinously gholdengo weak tho i feel, it doesnt take long for ghold to bust through clodsires recovers and it comes in on like 3 mons

[viscid pier]

which is why something like SpD Ting-Lu will be better.

Gholdengo can hit everything

[green citrus]

yeah

[viscid pier]

but, at least its a standing against it

[green citrus]

gholdengo hits everything but atleast it would be better into it

[viscid pier]

you can attempt to deal with it with your own Gholdengo, if you make it scarf, thanks to tera (don't always tera, it all depends on scenario)

[green citrus]

https://pokepast.es/cfaed4e332b3fb31 smth like this is an improvement, u can tweak the valiant set

i just put in a sample one

[viscid pier]

this is my version https://pokepast.es/9f2cc1ec7c2adf14

[green citrus]

cm lets it still break once uve busted your booster energy which i like

[viscid pier]

I like Scarlet's more tho, if it were I would just make Gholdengo scarf instead of defensive

[flat pasture]

What happened to Clodsire?

[viscid pier]

we got rid of it

because Gholdengo can easily take advantage of it

[green citrus]

clodsire is like

idk its super passive and its few niches arent necessary heee

here

main one being vliant check

which is fine when u have corv dengo and chcien

[flat pasture]

But Clodsire is super special bulky

[viscid pier]

so is Ting-Lu. There are better options than some Pokemon, and it all varies on the team and what supports what

[green citrus]

it doesnt do anything with the bulk is the issue

10000 mons just come in for free on it

ah, well, one issue dropping clod

volcarona.

volcarona is really rough..

[viscid pier]

Tera Poison Ting-Lu, Whirlwhind

and ruination

not great but

doesn't get 6-0d by volc

otherwise SpD Dondozo might be the play

[plush yacht]

https://pokepast.es/6c558772481bd2cc im having very trouble with grimsnarl reflect light screen

i need a psychic fangs user

or should i use brick break on valient

but its atk

[viscid pier]

you have some really weird spreads here

you don't need fblast on Valiant, it does nothing of note

Thunderbolt is a lot better for coverage

[plush yacht]

i change it to aura sphere

[green citrus]

pause pause

[plush yacht]

waitr not that

[green citrus]

i dont fully agree with focus being useless

it still covers corv and u also force out garg or make it tera

its not bad

[plush yacht]

its aura sphere

[viscid pier]

not bad no, but nothing of note that other moves can't do if you get what I mean

[green citrus]

i get it

[plush yacht]

but i have problem with grimsnar;

[green citrus]

aura sphere is not gr8

it does neither or

[viscid pier]

aura sohere isn't great

[green citrus]

focus or tbolt

[viscid pier]

if Focus Blast is only ok, then Aura Sphere isn't cutting it

[green citrus]

take ur pick

[viscid pier]

tbolt is recommended

[green citrus]

spreads r strange for sure

[viscid pier]

Hatterene needs 52 speed for Pex

[green citrus]

and garg

tusk spread i dont fully get

[viscid pier]

and garg

yeah same

no speed, and mixed hp def and atk

I wanna hear the reasoning first, if there is any

[plush yacht]

there is not

[viscid pier]

but anyway, Rotom-W Scarf without Trick is odd.

Rotom-Wash @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Volt Switch
• Hydro Pump
• Trick
• Thunder Wave

that's the set you want for scarf

but if hazards and screens are an issue, run defensive fog

not fog

lol

it doesn't get it

[plush yacht]

screen very issue

brick break on tusk?

[viscid pier]

no

I wouldn't advise brick break or psychic fangs

they are very niche moves overall

[plush yacht]

i lose to grimsnarl

[viscid pier]

you can run a fog user like Corviknight if you're so worried about HO teams,

[plush yacht]

also trick room bullies me

[viscid pier]

trick room is very niche

you just need beter defence

with this paste

https://pokepast.es/a20e15886c0cd19b

you have greater defence so you don't need to worry about screens

Ting-Lu can annoy setup sweapers with Whirlwind

and Hatterene and Rotom-W can take Physically defensive hits, they have great stats and great resistances

there's momentum in pivot with Volt-Switch allowing Specs Valiant and Scarf Dengo to come in when they like

and Dragonite is there to clean late game, or setup multiple times coming in and out thanks to roost and its bulky set

[plush yacht]

alright ty very much

[viscid pier]

all you're weak too really is Chien-Pao really, which can be dealt with by tera fighting Dengo and Hatterene

[main mauve]

https://pokepast.es/79679a7a5bb6b207 wisp ace

[viscid pier]

test it out, work out some tweaks

[plush yacht]

only 1 fighting move

[viscid pier]

what's wrong with that

[plush yacht]

nothing

i just thought one with better acurqacy wiykd be better

[viscid pier]

Fighting isn't a win con

Focus Blast can just effectively deal with Dark Types that threaten Gholdengo, like Kingambit

otherwise Make It Rain will deal with Chien-Pao and Roaring Moon

[viscid pier]

If you wanna run wisp ace, fine, just don't not run Court Change on a team like this.

https://pokepast.es/dbbca9729c7fba90

that's what I've edited

changed Kingambit to boots Tera Flying, because it's the best set it has, good against Great Tusk and Ting-Lu

Great Tusk is now offensive to pressure non scarf gholdengo as well as give overall good round of damage and rapid spin

Chabged Valiant to Tbolt so it is no longer walled by Steel Types such as Corviknight. You can run Shadow Ball if you want for Dengo but it's up to you

[plush yacht]

@viscid pier https://pokepast.es/2bfc68dc6cec4b6c biggest weakness espatra idk what to do

[viscid pier]

Espathra should be blocked by Gholdengo

[plush yacht]

please do explain

[viscid pier]

Espathra will only run 2 of 3 attacks, being Stored Power, Dazzling Gleam and Tera Blast, the Tera Blast being Fighting

Gholdengo resists both Gleam and Stored Power

[plush yacht]

yea thats what i was

[viscid pier]

and can hit it with big damage in return

[plush yacht]

with rain?

[viscid pier]

even after a Calm Mind

rain is irrelevant?

[plush yacht]

i meant make it rain

[viscid pier]

well, if it has Terastallized into Fairy, yes

if not, Shadow Ball will deal with it as Psychic

if fighting, either works

[plush yacht]

tyvm

[sly mauve]

Just bever let it setup

[drowsy mural]

Pretty confident about this one but I need more opinions, what's some big holes and issues with the team ?

https://pokepast.es/b50b446e4808ba86

[viral sable]

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[drowsy mural]

@ me whenever

[fallow crag]

id remove slowking for stealth rock garganacl, which frees your tusk to run body press over rocks. i cant say im a fan of that volcarona set, i would go with tera grass and quiver/fiery/morning sun/giga drain

[drowsy mural]

I was thinking that with garg too actually

rly wanted to try slowking slow pivot into chien pao but that is better

[knotty cargo]

https://pokepast.es/53c20065e810f89c I played around with my iron thorns team that I posted yesterday, and I realized that it struggles with meowscarada and chien pao really bad, so I added a bit of speed control and a bit of defense. What do we think about it?

[dry edge]

Big agree with the Volcarona thing cause this gets 6-0d by ID Garganacl

Also not sure what Flamethrower Slowking hits rn

Surf or Thunder Wave might be nicer

[sly mauve]

Hmmmm would quag be better or keep garchomp? https://pokepast.es/3d2e552f7cfdb8b7

Quagsire > chomp? Both have rocks but quag deals more damage to great tusk

[dry edge]

I suppose it hits Chien-Pao as it tries to Crunch and if it doesn't tera itself but I am not super big on that one

[sly mauve]

Hmmm then iron moth might become a problem

What do you think setsu?

Is energy ball iron moth enough to keep quag off of the team or is quag better than chomp for thia?

[dry edge]

Can also just go Mixed Chomp if you feel like it

Smth like the one here https://pokepast.es/10a541fa00d85f0c

Can ofc go rocks > spikes that's fine

btw this is rather weak to Volcarona and Skeledirge

Something like tera fire Kingambit/Iron Hands would be nice

[sly mauve]

Hmmm would life orb or scarf be better? Scarf allows me to run bulky rotom

[dry edge]

Well you wanted to hit Tusk and have hazards

Scarf Chomp doesn't do any of those

[sly mauve]

Oh wait i didn't see the rocks

[dry edge]

Yeah the one in the paste I sent is Spikes

That's why I mentioned you can also go Rocks > Spikes

[sly mauve]

Also i might go terra fire hands over king because a burned king can still deal good damage thanks to its ability

Sd once and your fine even if your burned your the same as normal but supreme overloard boost helps

https://pokepast.es/882bb85ac482542e

[deft palm]

https://pokepast.es/f4a629a00a019d85 would just like to ask if anything can be improved here, i initially had corv over great tusk but i slapped on tusk because i genuinely struggled vs gholdengo + mixed chomp

[viral sable]

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[sly mauve]

I think bulk up tusk might fit more on this team

Though considering your using wash and ting lu, i dont think you really struggle against gholdengo

[proven hare]

https://pokepast.es/8419621f416e413a

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @frigid sierra, @agile lava, @daring violet, @granite bear, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[proper folio]

Entering

[viscid pier]

Scarf Chomp is a very odd choice, especially with Spikes. It's not like Ash-Greninja in SM in the sense that it's such a scary threat that it forces out the opponent as a revenge-killer. I would scrap it altogether for a faster breaker that can use something like Choice Specs alongside Chien-Pao to form a great offensive core that has immediate power.

Similarly, Focus Sash Great Tusk isn't great for this team, which seems to be trying a Hyper Offence angle but yet at the same time is trying to have these pokemon that provide defensive utility

I would just make this straight up, Physically Defensive

you can still have hazard entry with rapid spin and a reliable defensive mon for Kingambit and Dragonite, and Roaring Moon

Rotom-Wash with Nasty Plot seems like an odd choice considering its a defensive pivot, so I think you should just run the classic spread with protect

and although scizor has a niche

I would say you need some form of ghost resist, or at least, a dragapult switch in and Gholdengo, such as Tera Water garganacl

this can be used in conjunction with Tusk and Rotom to form a very good defensive core which greatly supports the breakers on the team, Pult and Chien-Pao

and then finally, you have Valiant which is used to clean late game

imo, you should run booster energy, but Life Orb still works for it

https://pokepast.es/5aad0793f4e7c4dc

[proven hare]

Scarf Chomp is nice actually
Less Fairies and Flying types to deal with, and all of the get pressured
Spikes was just an experiment

[proven hare]

This is Offense, almost bordering on HO

[proven hare]

This set beats all sets of Garg

[proven hare]

No steel tehn

[viscid pier]

the reason why steel types are often sought after in a team, is because they are traditionally defensive. At the moment, the only defensive steel mons are Corviknight and Phys Def Gholdengo. You have Tera Steel Great Tusk for when its needed against something like Roaring Moon and Chien-Pao. If you want a more offensive approach, I would just go straight up into Hyper Offense with a lead like Glimmora or Grimmsnarl and 5 setup sweepers or wallbreakers. Otherwise this team greatly supports the 3 breakers on the team already, and you can break garganacl with all 3 of them. Tera Dark Chien-Pao with Choice Band beats it after some chip, and the same for Valiant and Pult which can clean it

[drowsy mural]

https://pokepast.es/13d7f6a47b34c227

Confident about this team

[deft palm]

drk what bu tusk accomplishes on the team

[daring violet]

do you want a rate?

[drowsy mural]

yes, and maybe some flaw spotting if you can

[daring violet]

gotchu gonna reply

[drowsy mural]

🙏

[daring violet]

try this set for tauros:

Tauros-Paldea-Fire @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature

• Will-O-Wisp
• Body Press
• Raging Bull
• Protect

[drowsy mural]

so just protect instead of tomb

[daring violet]

protect helps with hp recovery, which i think is needed with this set

yes

[drowsy mural]

My reasoning for that is for when I switch into dnite

[daring violet]

i would also go with foul play > stomping tantrum on amoonguss

[subtle rose]

u just wisp dnite

[daring violet]

^

[subtle rose]

wisp everything not named garganacl

or dengo, i guess

[drowsy mural]

ic

and stomp is just for the gholdengo annoying situation

[subtle rose]

ur not too weak into dengo

should be fine

[drowsy mural]

bet

[daring violet]

yeah and i can't imagine stomping does much more than foul play

[subtle rose]

fplay does like

14

[drowsy mural]

well its that

if i spore

and he doesnt switch to it

free spore

if he does

then stomp does 70

[subtle rose]

0- Atk Amoonguss Foul Play vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Gholdengo: 78-94 (20.6 - 24.8%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery

oh

thats true

i forgot the stomp tantrum secondary

[daring violet]

its fine to keep it if you think dengo is a common switchin

[drowsy mural]

cool tech

[daring violet]

i would say also maybe go a different tera than fire on volc

[drowsy mural]

switched to protect

oh ok

[daring violet]

grass is default but water might not be bad

if you wanna keep wisp > giga drain

[subtle rose]

i think green is the right play

[drowsy mural]

its just i dont have anything good for opposing volc

[subtle rose]

green. LOL

grass*

[drowsy mural]

other than tauros

[subtle rose]

opposing volc u go into tauros n spam bull

and crit it or pp stall roosts

ig

[drowsy mural]

sounds good

[daring violet]

yeah

why are you running ghost tera on corvi

[drowsy mural]

bro i have no idea LOL

[daring violet]

LOL

[drowsy mural]

0 answer

[daring violet]

water is pretty good but also ground depending on what often switches in on corvi

prob ground since amoonguss is tera water

imo

[drowsy mural]

gotcha changing

[daring violet]

lastly if volc if causing too much of an issue from the opposing side

volc usually teras grass

ice shard might be better on pao to outspeed, and i would just go adamant > jolly

maybe ice shard > sacred sword

thats if opposing volcs are annoying but if they're not i would keep the same set maybe try adamant if you feel like you're wanting the power and double priority moves

[drowsy mural]

ooh ok

is there anyone i dont outspeed anymore with adamant that i should keep note of

[daring violet]

cinderace

is the big one

[drowsy mural]

oh yeah thats scary

[daring violet]

which i think gets walled by tauros but yeah cinderace is the big one

[drowsy mural]

is it too soon to start using psychic fangs

[daring violet]

def too soon lmao

[deft palm]

tauros kinda doesnt exist so u can just use sacred sword to cover other darks and still hit tauros as a midground

[drowsy mural]

sacred sword ignores intimidate right

[deft palm]

no

it ignores defense boosts

not stat changes as a whole

[proper folio]

https://pokepast.es/b0ef2cd9087aeb99
Lokix team that was interpreted off of a dracomenace team.
Lo terabug firstimp is broken

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @frigid sierra, @agile lava, @daring violet, @granite bear, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[proper folio]

I hope yall dont mind pings oops

[agile lava]

don’t worry

we signed up for it

i cant take a look rn tho my bad

[proper folio]

U good

[cyan sparrow]

https://pokepast.es/b4c0266f8da861b9

I always feel like something is missing from my team, any help?

[daring violet]

hi i like the team, i feel like the team is well built for the most part. I would say maybe go with stealth rock on great tusk over taunt and then for clodsire get rid of stealth rock and give it toxic since that will work well with protect on rotom

[daring violet]

also if you want to give someone covert cloak give it to dengo, and then make rotom scarf trick

[daring violet]

then tusk could have lefties / heavy duty boots

tusk isn't amazing for covert cloak tbh its fine but its not the best potential user on the team

[deft palm]

apologies if this sounds rude but would like to bump this team i posted yesterday

[daring violet]

how could you

[daring violet]

ill rate your team if you'd like

[deft palm]

would appreciate

[daring violet]

i would give 56 speed evs on tusk for it to outspeed chomp after 1 rapid spin

[daring violet]

i would also give tusk ice spinner over body press because i do feel dnite and chomp can be annoying for this team once dondozo goes out

[deft palm]

it also helps for other tusks i suppose yeah

and pult midgrounds, since people sometimes just hard pult

[daring violet]

also for rotom, if you're going nasty plot maybe consider thunderbolt over wisp or volt switch

[deft palm]

over wisp sounds good yeah

[daring violet]

why tera steel on rotom?

just curious

i think tera fairy might be the better choice on dondozo but i dont mind tera dragon (just a pref thing)

[deft palm]

if i remember correctly was for shit like dracos from mixed chomp and pult and tera espeed dnite, but ive never ended up using it so i can probably change to tera fairy for the first benefit + not dying to the moves chien pao will realistically click

[daring violet]

sounds good nice team!

[deft palm]

tyty i jsut fucking hate fighting mixed chomp + ghold teams lol, thank you for the help!

[cyan sparrow]

https://pokepast.es/b4c0266f8da861b9 I've been playing for 3 months so im fairly new and have come up with this team, can someone rate it as it would be greatly appreciated

[stable hatch]

Theoretically For gen 9. What mons would synergize well with gren?

[plush yacht]

https://pokepast.es/aaf56705ce3df8f1

[viral sable]

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[main mauve]

https://pokepast.es/f3cfbad90447d9e2

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @frigid sierra, @agile lava, @daring violet, @granite bear, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[plush yacht]

can someone give opinions

[cursive tiger]

you’ve got too many choice mons

have less

[plush yacht]

[cursive tiger]

actually you’ve got too much offense in general, replace a choice mon with a toxic user or a stealth rock setter or smthn

yknow some bulk and support for ur team to balance out a bit

[subtle flume]

Bulky offense. Hazard denial/Nuzzle + set up. My speed control is quiver dance spam with volc, aqua jet and sucker punch prio, as well as nuzzle crippling mons like gholdengo on a switch.

https://pokepast.es/18173a8075b91814

[rose hinge]

not every team is a balance team tho

[cursive tiger]

i’m just saying some defense would be beneficial

like yknow too much offense leaves you wide open to stallers and defense and stuff

[rose hinge]

not really

considering hyper offense is a really effective playstyle

and HO doesnt really want to lose momentum

also too much offense is what keeps you safe from stallers and defense

not the other way round

[cursive tiger]

wha

wouldn’t it get screwed by a bulky toxic user or wall maker??

unless one of the mons on the team are a wall breaker or smthn

idk man i’m still wrapping my head around all this

[frozen hinge]

@ruby crest you free to hand a sun team here?

[ruby crest]

Hi I think sun is cringe with fish departure but sure

[daring violet]

ill give you a quick rate: so sun teams are still good but they aren't as enticing since chi-yu left us. I think go with this Scovillain set over charizard

[daring violet]

Scovillain @ Leftovers
Ability: Chlorophyll
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 88 HP / 252 SpA / 168 Spe
Timid Nature

• Flamethrower
• Solar Beam
• Protect
• Will-O-Wisp

[daring violet]

scovillian gives you a lot of speed and better typing vs charizard flying / fire and just pressuring hatterene to constantly come in. i feel like roaring moon should be banded and keep it jolly so you get the speed boost in the sun. (another solid speed check)

[daring violet]

ice spinner might be better than rapid spin with great tusk and then give torkoal rapid spin and play hatt hard on entry hazard switchins

thats a pref tho, but gl on the team

[proper folio]

Do you think you would be willing to work with me in dms

[daring violet]

absolutely 🙂

@proper folio

[proper folio]

Hi

[night zodiac]

https://pokepast.es/f884a7ebc6202406
Meowscarada BO centered around meow + ghold, thoughts?

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @frigid sierra, @agile lava, @daring violet, @granite bear, @dry edge, @green citrus, @severe shard. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[night zodiac]

If any of you guys see this just ping me with any feedback :p

[spiral fable]

https://pokepast.es/5d1e108d9767b8dd
stall team(or at least i think its stall) that i'm running with rn, recently switched iron defense corv for garg

[night zodiac]

https://pokepast.es/a6e156c14ddc86ae Think I put together a much better version

[dry edge]

You can afford Bold Blissey instead of Calm. Calm was run to help deal with Chi-Yu

[spiral fable]

i usually switch out blissey to a physical wall whenever one comes in, does bold + i assume 252 def evs help much?

[dry edge]

Yeah that's just what standard Blissey usually runs in OU gens. You still want it to take a hit here and there, and Calm doesn't particularly help vs the stuff that will beat you down still like NP Gholdengo and Espathra/Hatterene

[spiral fable]

alright, ty

also what do you think of switching leftovers for boots on garg? i know it resists rocks but since i have no hazard control i find spikes to be a growing problem for it

[dry edge]

I don't see much reason for AV Tusk here tbh. Also your Volcarona is Impish instead of Bold

[dry edge]

Boot spam is nice yeah. Most stalls do use Corvi though as it's immune to spikes and can act as knock absorber

[spiral fable]

fair but chien pao ran through my team with one lucky def drop and i was tired of it

[dry edge]

Yeah I noticed the Pao weakness, it is very rough