[DO NOT USE][ARCHIVED] SV OU Rates

[green citrus]

no immediate power, and its not like with preban screens where annihilape scared people from attack

also maushold is lol

i think smth like tusk > maus for rocks + spin, and with tusk hatt u can do the annoying silk scarf dnite

maybe make hatt stored power for better stall MU

[agile lava]

if the team is built around

maushold

what id do is replace volcarona

i think cb pao is fine here

since we have taunt + magic bounce

[green citrus]

u think screens is fine to drop then too

i dont think its like, necessary

[agile lava]

yes

preferably for glimmora

not sure how much better

thatd make the team

but i can see screens being not needed here

[light echo]

the reason I have screens is that

it helps the threats on the teams set up and having hazards with maushold isn't optimal in my opinion

since tidy up gets rid of them

and if I'm building around maushold I will be clicking tidy up quite often, especially my set

[frank anchor]

rate my Mismagius set

Mismagius @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Will-O-Wisp
• Hex
• Pain Split
• Destiny Bond

it has enough EVs to outspeed non-jolly Tusk as well as survive adamant knock off

i'm not entirely sure what to have for the moves or item

[drowsy mural]

Team so far, tried to make it flexible but I'm not sure the pressure is in the right place, but I'm not totally sure exactly

Also what can be a potential last mon, I was thinking maybe gambit or azu

@ whenever

[main mauve]

https://pokepast.es/43f07da4e03bc0c0

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[main mauve]

specs armor was scarlets idea to build around

dont judge

[proven hare]

You need a Ghost resist badly
So yeah, you can go for Kingambit

[drowsy mural]

Ic

[spiral remnant]

https://pokepast.es/589be013b5f08034

[sly mauve]

Hey

Kinda just made this team with no real thought behind, i might be weak to chi yu idk, iron def garg and tusk might be enough

Wait

https://pokepast.es/c566fd2f320bd3db there

[proven hare]

Chi Yu is gone

Btw what does Tera Thunder do on Pult?

[sly mauve]

Corviknight

[sly mauve]

Meant chein pai

Also is my team weak to ghost types

[desert bridge]

https://pokepast.es/b3c1259aca0808af what can i improve in this team?

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[frozen hinge]

@ruby crest

oh wait uh

sd band breloom and screens with no real set up

doesnt make a lot of sense

[desert bridge]

whay changes could i make?

[frozen hinge]

@daring violet

[daring violet]

ill do it

[daring violet]

hello, so i feel garganacl needs to have a different set because you're missing SR on the team regardless of court change on cinderace

Garganacl @ Leftovers
Ability: Purifying Salt
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature

• Stealth Rock
• Protect
• Salt Cure
• Recover

[daring violet]

breloom has choice band for some reason and swords dance, it needs to either be loaded dice or remove swords dance and go with bulldoze / spore

[daring violet]

grimmsnarl does not work on this team because none of the mons have any setup moves except breloom which doesn't work since it has a choice band

[daring violet]

you have a fair bit of fairy weaknesses on the team, I would suggest changing grimmsnarl for corviknight, it resists fairy type moves and provides ground immunity which this team needs since nothing has ground immunity

[daring violet]

Corviknight @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 164 SpD / 4 Spe
Careful Nature

• Defog
• Roost
• Brave Bird
• U-turn

[daring violet]

maybe go with sucker punch > court change since the corvi add, other than that cool team!

[desert bridge]

should i switch choice band from breloom?

[daring violet]

in my opinion go with loaded dice and change close combat for spore

[desert bridge]

but if no court change, then how am i supposed to remove the spikes?

[daring violet]

Defogger with corviknight look at my responses

[desert bridge]

oh yeah

defog

forgot bout that

[daring violet]

You’re good 👍

[hazy plank]

https://pokepast.es/22d821bb2b704281

What shud I change

[solar swan]

Bruh I think I deadass ran the same team lmao

Couple big issues for that team are opposing Chien pao and Garganacl

[wicked mason]

https://pokepast.es/efa204d520745daf what do I change

[frail ether]

Im using the sample team with Chien-Pao, Scarf Trick Gholgendo, Rotom Wash and Valiant

idk what that team is supposed to do against Clodsire and Corvinknight

and also I probably should change some things to spice things up considering im only using a sample tean

https://pokepast.es/38eb18b656ea80f9

this is what I'm talking about

like I feel like I can't do anything

They lead Sire, I lead Chien-Pao

They switch to Corv on Icicle Crash

Even when I Tera Dark to take Body Press and I crunch, it still doesn't kill and he roosts

and idk wth I'm supposed to do now

Rotoms best super effective move is Volt Switch, I can't go Valiant with Thunderbolt cuz he'll likely just switch out and that means I wasted booster energy too early

and even if I did, he just goes back to clodsire

who rotom w can't do jack about

Ting-Lu doesn't work cuz he just switches back to Corv

[thin prairie]

hydro pump exists bro

[solar swan]

Ghold is also a good answer to corvi with trick

Not super sure about whether this fits the team, but I have seen some Tera electric Iron Valiants built to deal with corvi as well

[naive stirrup]

I have a question, does EQ better than Headlong Rush or just personal preference for you?

[gilded crane]

im testing some changes

will post a new team in a moment

[frail ether]

Water Absorb

[fringe patrol]

So

Im trying to think of what I can do to help synergize better

https://pokepast.es/82e7a613e1eacfaf

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[fringe patrol]

ignore amoongus

im trying to figure out who would work better in amoogngus and dondozos place

I especially just need like some status or hazard game

I thought about running spidops purley for sticky web

[frail ether]

I said I was looking for some things to spice things up so I might try that

Idk I might switch teams cuz I feel like I’m not getting a good idea for team building when playing this one

Maybe just because it’s complicated

With having to consider what Tera Types work

[fringe patrol]

whatever counters your weakness >:)

[frail ether]

I’m thinking of centering it around Chien-Pao

Idk when I looked up competitive Pokémon I learned that when team building I need a Pokémon that’s my “Win condition”

[fringe patrol]

Make everyon mon your win condition

[frail ether]

Well that’s just called Hyper Offense

I’m more of a Bully Offense fan myself

Ting-Lu really helps with Valiant so I’ll put him on

And just phasing annoying mons like Dragonite and Booster Energy users

[fringe patrol]

could maybe try a dondo if you like bulk

[frail ether]

Is there a seperate channel for team building just in case

[fringe patrol]

or a corv

[frail ether]

Ok well 4 mons on this team so far are the same

I was thinking of Chien-Pao outs and I thought “Oh Tera Fairies are really annoying.” I’ll bring Gholgendo

And I put on Valiant cuz I think that’s the best special user in the meta rn

[dry edge]

@frail ether Hey welcome. Wincons don't have to br setup pokemon. Wincons are moreso: Oh if I can weaken X and Y then my pokemon Z can just beat everything else. Stuff like that

[frail ether]

Oh yeah I know

I’m thinking of things that wall Chien-Pao

[dry edge]

When using that team don't try to break everything asap, take things slowly. Are you predicting they are doing into Clodsire? Then go Chien-Pao and threaten it. Play slowly vs Corvi, put up hazards, use Ruination, so on and so forth

[dry edge]

Only really Dondozo and the Tauros

Everything else gets deleted

[frail ether]

Bulky Fairies as well

Which is why Gholgendo is there

[dry edge]

There are not many bulky fairies atm. Biggest role gholdengo fits there is blocking Defog from Corvi

See Corvi is ofc going to take hits from Heavy-Duty Boots Chien Pao decently

But just that, decently

If it comes in on Crunch then it's going to be forced to roost

Don't try to brute force it, just crunch it, switch out as it roosts, pressure it with let's say Gholdengo and repeat

Corvi only has 8 roosts and it's prolly tasked with dealing with more than Chien Pao

[frail ether]

I mean I’m most thinking of stuff like Tera Fairy, Garganacl or Skeladirge for example

[green citrus]

And quaq

[dry edge]

Ya and you can deal with all of them just as described above. Both of those Fairy mons are forced to recover. You can even try to fish for a flinch once if you really want to

[frail ether]

Well if I don’t get Flinch Gargancl uses Salt Cure and I’m forced to switch or continue fishing

[dry edge]

In any case I'm moreso responding to the stuff about the sample cause well you haven't shared your progress so far.

[dry edge]

The point is that you can fish for the flinch as they go for recover

[frail ether]

Oh true

I like Valiant as a bulky water out

It’s just idk how I feel about Glimmora being one also on the sample team

Considering it has a really hard time switching in and I have to Tera Grass to kill them most of the time

And plus Iron Valiant with booster energy feels like a resource

Like I have to find opportunities to switch it in

Well, switch it in and then make use out of it

I could play Amoongus

I’m considering Cinderace for the last slot since it’s a Pivot and it has Court Change

However another problem is unless I wanna run that Tera Poison/Steel Ting Lu set with both Spikes and Stealth Rock

[fringe patrol]

https://pokepast.es/9bc84630eac90002 this team be cooking now

[frail ether]

But the problem with that is that’s my only hazard user

And if I wanted to make full use I’d have to use my Tera early Game probably

[deep forge]

hmmm choosing between these two

[fallow crag]

We rate fully complete teams here, if you want help with individual sets, see #comp-general

[deep forge]

oh mbad

[fallow crag]

All good just looking to get you to the place you need to go

[fallow crag]

Can’t say I’m a fan of Torkoal here. Neither of your Fire-types take immediate advanatage of the sun due to needing to set up, so it’s pretty wasted. You also need more consistent removal to keep Ceruledge’s sash intact, so I’d go for Corviknight in that slot. I really like covert cloak on gholdengo that’s fun. I think you’d be better off running shadow sneak over claw on ceruledge just to take advantage of sash more

Really cool team tho

[fringe patrol]

Thank you good thoughts i appreciate it greatly and honestly I was thinking the same or tor he was more of a filler rbh

[fallow crag]

Yeh torkoal is just weird here with no great tusk

More people need to run covert cloak on random mons tho

That item is broke

[proven hare]

Garg is broke

[fallow crag]

Just use covert cloak on more mons

[fringe patrol]

yeye

[spiral remnant]

https://pokepast.es/0e2d201ffda3ca47

azumarill and meowscarada feel like the potential weak links here

at least so far

[hazy plank]

Run band or Scarf on Meowscarada

[spiral remnant]

i was at first but im not sure i can have it lock itself to a move on this team

since i dont really have good hard swaps

[hazy plank]

Try this
https://pokepast.es/6b155ca724ef62a3

U struggled against Valiant
Hatterene didn't support ur team according to the matches have played

Azumarill doesn't do enough damage

I haven't tested this team coz got Lil busy

But this shud work

[spiral remnant]

thx

[earnest dawn]

how is banded azu not "enough damage"

[green citrus]

Because its not

This team lacks immediate power

And espathra just doesnt fit

Espathra off screens just isnt it

And clod is a little too passive for balance imo

[onyx sun]

Life orb or leftovers for gholdengo

[shrewd flax]

Which format is this?

[onyx sun]

Its for sv comp

Its for the future

[shrewd flax]

Ah

Ummm, why protect on gholdengo?

[onyx sun]

Thats the thing

Ive been thinking about this for hours

Idk if I should use

Air ballon tera steel

With trick

Or

Sum else

Cuz rn im tera flying

For my chomp

To spam eq

[shrewd flax]

Tera flying should be good

[onyx sun]

Yeah

[shrewd flax]

With lefties

[onyx sun]

Kk

And for protect

[shrewd flax]

Actually air balloon

I’m stupid

And probably focus blast

[onyx sun]

Air ballon? Tera flying

Why ballon

[shrewd flax]

Probably Tera fighting

But yeah

[onyx sun]

WOAH

TERA FIGHTING

Wait lemme see how lefties do

[shrewd flax]

OK

[onyx sun]

So far lefties is working

[shrewd flax]

Cool

[green citrus]

I dont think anyone can really rate a team for the future

[onyx sun]

Its not a rate

I was asking for advice

[green citrus]

Ask in comp general

This channel is for having teams rated for current ou metagame

[onyx sun]

kk

[solar swan]

Also, if you struggle with Garganacl, Covert Cloak Gholdengo's always an option

[drowsy mural]

The pressure on this team is almost where I want it but I had to put a clod on it bc idk how else to deal with valiant

https://pokepast.es/a242b68c91692e49

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[drowsy mural]

• it has rocks, but what would be a good last mon and what should be changed

[solid sinew]

If you want this to be more about offensive pressure, I'd be hesistant about adding clod

[drowsy mural]

Yeah that's what I was thinking, how should I better the pressure but have a good valiant switch in

[solid sinew]

So already unless Valiant has Sball, your gholdengo is p good

[drowsy mural]

I don't actually need hazards since I have cinder but yeah I instantly remembered that thing and wanted to slap something on that's decent

Gotcha

[solid sinew]

So since you're looking for like a balance team, I'd add in something that can pivot in case its Sball Valiant, like Amoongus which is not completely passive and has some nice synergy with rotom

But I'd also consider having at least rocks, since rocks + offensive momentum will be your best way of keeping Chien in check

Actually now that I think about it, scratch amoongus

I'd probably run Volcarona, Valiant cant really do much to it without the specs set (and then Ghold can pivot in) and you also now have a bulky late game option vs Dozo which is problematic rn

[shrewd flax]

https://pokepast.es/26ae0f4996586658 so I tried to make a stall team with garganacl but it only peaked 1400 is it a skill issue or a team issue?

And if it’s a team issue

What should I change

[drowsy mural]

That sounds solid, imma try it out

I've been wanting to use more volc but I deadass keep running into dirge

Dirge and clod 💀

[solid sinew]

So I've been messing around with the structure

https://pokepast.es/ac45ebe5489aaaf0

Changed Valiant to special because physical just gets walled by so much

Added Gambit in last slot with SR (Evs can be played around with) as an offensive check to Chien too

[solid sinew]

For the clod problem I recommend Tera Flying Ghold, completely blanks clod and Amoong

Dirge you have answers to by playing offensively

[drowsy mural]

So I'm guessing dirge good against stall

And balance

And gets slapped by HO

[green citrus]

Yeo

Fellow raters

https://pokepast.es/89f0ba5438d457da

What we thinkin

The defog scizor compression is wack but between that and hatterene i think its workable

Thief not super necessary when u can just uturn to chien or moth i feel

[honest egret]

Why heavy slam and not spikes on ting Lu?

For Hatt?

[drowsy mural]

I'd assume so

[thin prairie]

https://pokepast.es/52180c4be57f0517 been working well for me on ladder, rmt

[green citrus]

Indeed

I donr like to use double hazards regardless

Id rather whirlwind

[ruby crest]

Defog sciz makes me sad

[thin prairie]

its banded too

[sly mauve]

I have a question

What makes the double ghost offensive core so good?

[frozen hinge]

Ghost move strong

And they often share checks

Which are usually more accustomed to handling one or the other

But are subject to be overwhelmed taking the brunt of the might of multiple

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/10a753ff676e6f0f also here is my go at a double ghost team

Ik i dont have much for ground but nothing stays in on amoongus or dozo

Dragapult is our speed control

@frozen hinge what do you think?

[frozen hinge]

I can talk about general things but at present I don't consider myself qualified for rating

So like @ruby crest or @fallow crag can assist you

[sly mauve]

dang

@ruby crest

[ruby crest]

Scarlet I’m occupied rn you got it?

[green citrus]

amoongus is missing a proper nature
id make gholdengo or amoongus covert cloak, garganacl comes in on a lot and thrashes the team; more inclined to say put it on gholdengo to have a nicer tool to weaken or beat CM water hatt

some suggestions moreso to think about than immediately slap on; av amoongus potentially to help scout around opposing ghosts, kingambit solo vs pult/dengo can be shakey

iron moth is pretty scary, as is volcarona. Maybe mess around with tera fire kingambit for this as a last ditch effort

honestly kingambit seems to just be attempting to fill for a tinglu here

but idk if that makes the team too weak

[sly mauve]

Im mostly trying not to use legendary mons because i almost always use them and i wanted a team without them.

Hmmm terra water or tera fire king, fire cant be burned but water is a bette defensive typing

Wait water makes us weak to giga drain

https://pokepast.es/ad2f230b1b0517c6 here

Wait ok, fixed it https://pokepast.es/bcad95f9acb3c480

Foul play for dragapult and stomping tantrum for gholdengo

[shy elm]

I've never tried playing stall before so idk if this is a good stall team or not

https://pokepast.es/0b2cda89ad682e59

[woeful edge]

https://pokepast.es/5e38421ffccd6ff5
Rate my team thx

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[woeful edge]

@fallow crag

[fallow crag]

Fun HO squad! I think azu is super good right now. Quick edits I would make are make azu Tera water and replace Tera blast with ice spinner, make dnite Tera normal, make chien pau life orb, as you really just want it to break as much as possible, and finally replace breloom with something like phys def volcarona, which is a more fast paced wincon

[main mauve]

https://pokepast.es/9bcce7034ab70000 @fallow crag

[woeful edge]

Isn't fire type teral blast good for grass and steel types?

[errant basin]

https://pokepast.es/3afc36cab8fcec38 @fallow crag
general advice please, about 10-15 battles in with this team (im pretty sure it loses to gholdengo) and also should i switch toxic spikes on meow for play rough?

[dry mountain]

https://pokepast.es/4e9b8998afa04473 rmt plz

[fallow crag]

generally you want the tera water cause tera water aqua jet will ohko pult

[fallow crag]

make garg max SpD and make rotom tera fairy (you dont want to be weak to opposing rotom!) and this is good to go!

[sly mauve]

Hi I’m here with my negative brain cells again

I am allowed to give my own 2 cents in here even if I’m not a helper right?

@dry mountain

[dry mountain]

yo

[fallow crag]

@sly mauve feel free to but i may correct you 🙂

[sly mauve]

I would love to be corrected honestly

I can learn

But your Valiant has choice specs

Which would be good on its own

But Scizor can hit like a truck

[woeful edge]

??

[fallow crag]

not a fan of tspikes on scarf cat, it's already a big momentum sink and tspikes dont provide enough value. i'd rather see something like Play Rough or Thunder Punch in that slot, also Tera Dark is generally preferred on cat

[sly mauve]

I’d personally use life orb to avoid getting locked into an option and having to switch

[fallow crag]

oops replied to the wrong thing

[fallow crag]

make garg max SpD and make rotom tera fairy (you dont want to be weak to opposing rotom!) and this is good to go!

there we go

[woeful edge]

Ahh okay well chien-pao is there to counter pault

[dry mountain]

makes sense

[main mauve]

Ahh

Okay

[dry mountain]

i do want it to last against stall tho

lo might get rid of that

[sly mauve]

I personally run mixed Valiant with booster energy

[main mauve]

I was mixdef garg cuz pao

[sly mauve]

I may not always get the kill but I hit like a truck and always go first

So I get to pick off faster but more frail guys

[errant basin]

Thanks! I'll fix that. Any other advice?

[dry mountain]

i mean valiant is a breaker

i think

[sly mauve]

True true

[dry mountain]

instead odf a sweeper

[sly mauve]

I use mine to go fast and do big number

[fallow crag]

honestly no, i think it is pretty solid outside of that

[sly mauve]

I should probably heed my own advise and use orb

[fallow crag]

ok as for Mr. Sad's team

[sly mauve]

*advice

oh no

I’m scared

[dry mountain]

specs goes off as well if you have switches

[fallow crag]

electric pao is something i have been toying with recently, and I and a few other OU people have come to the conclusion that it doesnt provide enough value to be worth the tera

tera dark is usually much better

[errant basin]

oh awesome! that's like the first "decent team" i've gotten form one i built :D

[fallow crag]

the choice of boots or life orb is up to you

[dry mountain]

you mean my team?

[fallow crag]

oh

yeah sorry

[sly mauve]

Yeah lol

[fallow crag]

lots of rates going on!

[sly mauve]

I’ll chuck mine in here to get a second opinion on it though

[dry mountain]

it's good

[fallow crag]

i'd replace tera blast with sacred sword

[sly mauve]

I am aware I don’t have anything for ground

[fallow crag]

what does tera ghost wash accomplish

[dry mountain]

pinch fighting resist

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/1622d0adc7fc1342

[dry mountain]

i like it over steel

[sly mauve]

My abomination

[fallow crag]

eh at that point i would just go tera fairy

which allows you to do decently into pult as well

[dry mountain]

oh good point

[fallow crag]

scizor i think i would bust out finch's set

keep boots but go

[dry mountain]

finch's set?

[fallow crag]

SD/quick attack/bullet punch/close combat with tera normal

since the team is pretty offensive

you can get away with that type of stuff

[dry mountain]

then all my pivots are defensive tho

[fallow crag]

if you really want to keep it intact as a pivot i would just go corv instead

better bulk, defog

since court change is situational at best

you could drop it for the much superior gunk shot

or even bulk up if you are feeling that

[dry mountain]

but then like hazards tho

[fallow crag]

hence my suggestion of

defog corviknight

over scizor

[sly mauve]

Optimal idea

Band scizor with defog 😎

[fallow crag]

oof

i think my heart rate dropped

[dry mountain]

wait scizor gets defog

[sly mauve]

New meta?????????? (REAL!??)

[dry mountain]

dubs

[sly mauve]

dont

[dry mountain]

i'm doing it

[sly mauve]

No

[dry mountain]

yes

[fallow crag]

yeh it gets fog

[sly mauve]

Welp

You got this

[dry mountain]

cool

thx for ideas

[sly mauve]

If you do the funny defog scizor

I will @ you with a 👍 emoji

[dry mountain]

i did it

[main mauve]

https://pokepast.es/5b00db6d405fd05d how's this too

[fallow crag]

https://pokepast.es/537ba4dd87dcd541 paste for yeh @dry mountain

[sly mauve]

@fallow crag https://pokepast.es/1622d0adc7fc1342

[dry mountain]

why bb

[fallow crag]

strongest move to hit tusk with

also allows you to hit ghosts, which body press does not

[sly mauve]

That self damage tho

Use Peck

It’s better

[dry mountain]

peck new meta?

[sly mauve]

Optimal, even

Peck new meta

[fallow crag]

seems solid, i think i would go nuzzle > mystical fire on hat, change the amoonguss giga drain > seed bomb (i really dont know why you have seed bomb), and go for the curse set for dondozo

curse dozo + hatterene is a favorite combo of mine, shit is annoying to deal with

[main mauve]

Seed bomb is for tera water hatt

Cuz it's annoying to beat

With this

[fallow crag]

if you outspeed anyways, clear smog fixes that matchup

[main mauve]

Ye I guess but psyshock does a bunch

[sly mauve]

Should I run orb or booster energy on Mixed Valiant?

[fallow crag]

if it is running psyshock it is a bad hat for losing to skeledirge and also cant break dozo

[fallow crag]

booster

[sly mauve]

Ight

I’m not insane

Thanks!

[main mauve]

Curse Rest talk?

[sly mauve]

https://pokepast.es/1622d0adc7fc1342

[woeful edge]

Rest of my team is fine?

[fallow crag]

yep

[fallow crag]

yep

[woeful edge]

Ohkay I will make the changes and thx a lot

[hazy plank]

Doesn't elec pokemon smoke this team??

[umbral bloom]

https://pokepast.es/0f7ea6a70e9b9a67

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This is a test of the monitor system and is not meant to ping.

[umbral bloom]

How’s my team? I’ve put it on the RMT forum page too.

[sly mauve]

Sooo I've got a team

Idk if tyson or scarlet are online but anyone who would qualify themselves as someone who is trust worthy when it comes to team building, Im trying to figure out a good final pokemon for this team.

https://pokepast.es/f32a9192c99e6d6b I'm also thinking if garchomp is required because with rotom and hands both electric and fire types are covered. Should i keep chomp for the hazards or replace them?

[dry edge]

Tera Water Stored Power Hatt could be alr. Hatt gives you a Fighting resist, helps with hazard control and improves the mu vs fatter teams and Great Tusk. Water cause the mu vs rain looks rather miserable.

Talking about Tusk, having 3 mons that get walled by it might not be very good. You can maybe try a more offensive one like the one here https://pokepast.es/10a541fa00d85f0c

Moonblast and Shadow Ball look rather miserable to deal with too. Can probably try Leftis Corvi and a bulky Kingambit instead of a speedy one.

[sly mauve]

Does banded hands not beat tusk...head long rush tusk at least?

This is mostly to address the great tusk walling my team comment

Also there https://pokepast.es/9d80a2e247d62fa5

Well hands doesnt swap in but doesnt it ko after the def drop on headlong rush

[dry edge]

Saw this before yeah, been thinking what we can do to fit hazard control somewhere cause hqzards look awful to deal with but nothing has come to mind.

Was thinking of BU Tera Water Great Tusk > Dondozo. Though you would have to be rather careful vs Roaring Moon. Espathra looks like a pain to both versions, maybe Tera Dark Dengo could help a bit vs it and also Recover > Dazzling Gleam.

Timid Valiant all the way tbh. Outspeeding Mixed Chomp and Pawmot looks important for this team.

[dry edge]

You are assuming a lot of things here. Like they are headlong rush to begin with and that you did indeed Ice Punch. Also that you are either at full or used your tera to take the hradlong rush.

Just for reference Headlong is in 1/3 of Great Tusks https://www.smogon.com/stats/2022-12/moveset/gen9ou-1695.txt with a good bit of them being Choice Band/Booster Energy which just deletes Hands unless it teras.

[sly mauve]

An i see

I added hatt, is there anymore edits i might need to make to the team

[dry edge]

Can prolly wait for someone else's opinion. There's still stuff I don't particularly like. Clodsire makes Tusk even worse to deal with. If tera ground is to stop Magnezone from trapping you then I would just go Dragon instead. Resists Electric but also helps vs Water in an emergency

[sly mauve]

So keep chomp

Also magnezone is being used in sv ou? Thought it didnt have the usage to be ou

[rose hinge]

https://pokepast.es/1358bb2dcc6679fb

had some success with this team but i'd like more advice

[dry edge]

I thought that was your reasoning for tera ground on Corvi

[dry edge]

No Gholdengo support on Hazard stack offense is rough, specially when you have slots that let Corvi Defog such as Meowscarada. Can prolly try Scarf Dengo > Meowscarada

I would also go with a mixed Garchomp cause again Tusk looks like a pain early game

[rose hinge]

i got rid of chomp

because i realised all my team was weak to fairy

[dry edge]

You have rona

And eith dengo > meow that should be alr

[rose hinge]

but meow is decent speed control

do i just use scarf dhengo then

[rose hinge]

set for chomp btw?

[dry edge]

The one here could be nice https://pokepast.es/10a541fa00d85f0c. Your team struggles a lot with Tusk early on that's why I am recommending it. Ya scarf Dengo should be fine.

But just my ideas, hopefully someone else can share theirs

[sly mauve]

Ah, honestly electric immunity + a generally good defensive typing was the main reason

https://pokepast.es/7f29dd66147afd2d got rocky help on garchomp so tusk cant keep ramming itself against corv and chomp otherwise it'll chip itself out

[spiral remnant]

https://pokepast.es/619fbb5cff04e60a anyone have a better setup for this team? took the pokemon from someone at like 1600 i was spectating but i didnt have the whole picture

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[agile lava]

hmm

zone + lokix is a pretty cool idea

but i don’t think big root is ideal

i’ll start with the zone set tho

[spiral remnant]

lol wtf i put big root on him

[agile lava]

tera blast electric doesn’t actually do anything since u have tbolt

[spiral remnant]

ill change that to scarf

oh i think that didnt save right

p sure it was tera ice

think all these tera types didnt save

[dry edge]

It's prolly Tera Blast Fairy/Fighting. Kingambit looks scary

Fairy also helps vs Dnite and Moon

[agile lava]

and tinglu

i do think structurally this doesn’t work tho, zone ho probably isn’t ideal

ud rather support zone lokix with

actual defensive support

with that being said, i think tusk works better here over froslass

[onyx sun]

Ignore Sam

[agile lava]

since lokix is susceptible to hazards tusk does a good job of keeping them off while also providing rocks

[onyx sun]

Is rotom wash garchomp a good core

[spiral remnant]

i like froslass

[onyx sun]

Because discharge eq could be pretty good

[spiral remnant]

they have a lot of potential though im not good at using them

[onyx sun]

Froslass or my 2 pikmons?

[spiral remnant]

?

[agile lava]

i think we should replace breloom too

with either pult/gholdengo

probably pult since it’s stronger and loves corv getting trapped to spam dracos

[onyx sun]

So

Is garchomp Rotom wash a good duo

For double

Eq discharge

[spiral remnant]

i know its not really the norm but id like to know what youd do with these specific pokemon

partly to learn more about how to build the individual mons over building a team

[agile lava]

why are u asking here

this is just for ou

[spiral remnant]

wonder if i should try tera fire magnezone

trap king, corviknight, scizor

[sly mauve]

Can someone help me with this team

[timber pike]

https://pokepast.es/130e8c4ee50b870d

[sly mauve]

Rotom wash might be a problem

Hat might be able to scare covert cloak rotom off

[wanton root]

This looks really solid, but you don’t necessarily need mbounce here

[green citrus]

it does need mbounce

[wanton root]

They have a corv

[green citrus]

i think the tinglu being double hazards is a little greedy, id do rocks tect garg

and then give ting ruin

[green citrus]

team is weak to dengo

[wanton root]

True ig

[green citrus]

not enoguh to where id make massive changes beyond that tho

then again

[wanton root]

Hatt is an entry point for dengo in some cases tho

[green citrus]

plot cloak

could just win

[wanton root]

So idk how much the net advantage is

[green citrus]

id do some kind of fire type over garg maybe

secondary resist vs valiant and dengo is nice

[sly mauve]

I thought it was weak to rotom W as without garg nothing really tanks it. Maybe hat can deal with it

[tranquil sedge]

Corviknight tanks Rotom unless it's Nasty Plot. Which tbh they never are in this meta.

[severe shard]

Trick rotom can cripple corv

So it’s kinda risky to stay in initially unless you know its item from hitting it already or sr damage

[exotic kite]

ive seen weirder stuff

https://pokepast.es/677c00ffc503e1f3

@ me with insight on what i can improve please!

[green citrus]

just realized the team we were rating above is literally a sample team

sigh

[shrewd flax]

Why would someone submit a sample?

Im so confused

[green citrus]

god knows

th only diffrenc was the garg having a shittier ability

lol

[unkempt hill]

no way someone is running sturdy garg

[tranquil sedge]

Forbidden SL.

[exotic kite]

@green citrus you mind taking a look at my team?

Would apreciate

[solid sinew]

Noivern and Krookodile are not viable in ou. I'd recommend looking at some sample HO / webs builds and going from there

[exotic kite]

Its been working well thus far

I don't mind using niche mons and making it work

[tranquil sedge]

I don't see a reason to use Noivern and Krook here over more viable OU mons that can do similar things.

[exotic kite]

What do you think i should use

[tranquil sedge]

Great Tusk can run a Bulk Up set similar to Krook with Rapid Spin, Knock/Body Press, and EQ that is much more likely to sweep thanks to its much better bulk and defensive typing.

Corviknight can fill the role of defensive flying pivot with defog better than Noivern as it is much bulkier and has a better defensive typing.

[exotic kite]

Yeah I thought of Corv

Anything else you'd change at first glance? @tranquil sedge

[solid sinew]

I would not run Corviknight on a webs team.

[tranquil sedge]

I'd probably change the Gastro to a specially defensive Pex with Covert Cloak to wall garg and handle Scarf Gholdengo.

Also that's another issue is that the team is that some of the stuff on the team isn't really suited to webs.

[exotic kite]

Good points

Hm...

[tranquil sedge]

Webs should be a very offensive playstyle that takes advantage of offensive pressure in order to keep webs up.

[exotic kite]

I see

im just experimenting, I do wanna get more adjusted to BO

with it being a new playstyle for me

[drowsy mural]

https://pokepast.es/9d88c97b4edd7d26

[tranquil sedge]

I think you should scrap webs if you're going for Bulky Offense. It's more of a Hyper Offense thing.

[drowsy mural]

first rate team, kinda went into this sorta blind but yeah. What do I need to look out for ?

[exotic kite]

Noted

[exotic kite]

I would add some sort of recovery to Quaq

Quaq is good mid to late game

[drowsy mural]

no taunt ?

[exotic kite]

@tranquil sedge so maybe more mons that have good use of prio as a sort of speed control instead?

[exotic kite]

no ice spinner id say

You can go far with just Aqua step and CC

[drowsy mural]

had it for the amoongus tbh but i get it

[exotic kite]

if you manage to be 3x att by the time sus shroom enters the field u should be good

[drowsy mural]

annoying mons like chomp, amoongus and dnite switch in for free on me

idk if theyd let me get 3 attack boosts if they have a amoongus right?

[exotic kite]

ive seen dumber plays than that

mid ladder is a menace 💀

[drowsy mural]

oof

im on top 500 i think still

[exotic kite]

Big up

[barren igloo]

https://pokepast.es/6a9e8a761d2d5516 any thoughts on this team? its been doing pretty well

[exotic kite]

Nice team

is it balance? semi-stall

?

[solid sinew]

Solid rain core but as it stands now you have no way to get past Dozo.

[barren igloo]

yep semi stall

[exotic kite]

4 ground weakness tho

oof

[barren igloo]

just realized that lol

[exotic kite]

its not the end of the world tho, one of the sample teams ive used have 5 weaknesses to fairy 💀

[drowsy mural]

should make pelipper more offensive ?

[exotic kite]

I dont think that solves the dondozo problem

[drowsy mural]

hmmm

i thought pelipper and amoongus would be good for it

guess not

[exotic kite]

Nah it is

maybe just need a bit more?

[tranquil sedge]

Valiant and Scarf Ghold are already pretty solid speed control as is. Instead of Masquerain you could try running an offensive Garchomp with Spikes or Rocks.

[exotic kite]

@drowsy mural I would just go out there and play and see what mons creates problems for you then go from there

[drowsy mural]

good idea

[exotic kite]

Chomp with Corv as def core alongside Pex

I like the sound of that

[solid sinew]

I think theres a couple ways of going about this. You could either make Pelliper more offensive

Or you could consider replacing Quaqaval with something else that checks Dozo

[tranquil sedge]

Yeah Corv + Pex + Ground is a pretty solid defensive core rn.

[solid sinew]

As it stands quaquaval has a lot of redundancy with Floatzel

[exotic kite]

@drowsy mural you could alternatively slap thunderbold on gholdengo

[drowsy mural]

gotcha thats true, honestly I put quaq on here because chien pao is a huge threat rn but if theres something better im for it

[solid sinew]

Right I guessed that lol

[exotic kite]

anything else?

Or am i chill with the wincons i have atm

I thought I maybe needed something that could setup

but I like specs Valiant too

[tranquil sedge]

Specs Valiant is a pretty solid wincon with Hazards up and the right predicts.

As is Bulk Up Tusk and Gholdengo.

[exotic kite]

Right

[solid sinew]

But in general fast mons like Chien will sort of always be problematic for Rain. I think its better to apply a ton of offensive pressure and keep hazards up to check chien pao

[exotic kite]

You dont think Tusk would be reduntant with Chomp?

[tranquil sedge]

Nah Tusk is near necessary for removal. Very common for teams to have multiple grounds in this meta.

[exotic kite]

I was thinking Corv

as removal

[tranquil sedge]

Corv can't defog on Gholdengo though which is why it's usually accompanied by Tusk.

[exotic kite]

so both run removal?

Thats interesting

[tranquil sedge]

Yeah usually.

[unkempt hill]

wait wheres the team

[exotic kite]

who me?

I can send it again

[unkempt hill]

ye

[exotic kite]

https://pokepast.es/677c00ffc503e1f3

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[unkempt hill]

honestly i dont really know how to make that team good without changing the whole thing

you probably are going for a webs team but you dont really have good abusers

and a lot of mons that are just outclassed or dont do much

[exotic kite]

Lmao trust me its not a finished product

already changed it entirely

[agile lava]

nokgo is right

theres not really much i could do to help improve this team

i think ud be better off using another webs team

instead of changing every pokemon

https://pokepast.es/02ac68a6cc582126

[exotic kite]

I was trying to see how webs could work with BO

[agile lava]

it doesnt

[exotic kite]

but since people said webs really isnt BO i changed

[solid sinew]

@drowsy mural Ok I had some ideas, so Gholdengo isnt doing a lot on your team imo apart from checking Garg. So you could potentially replace it with a bulky Kingambit that gives you an offensive Chien check + a Ghostspam check. Next I suggest replacing Amoongus' HDB for Covert, letting it wall Garg and threaten damage with Giga / Sludge regardless of Tera. Finally, replace Quaq for Krillowattrel which gives you another Rain sweeper. Here's the paste, https://pokepast.es/9b07226617e57d02. EVs and moveset probably can be optimized but I think this is a good structure to start with imo.

[drowsy mural]

just played a few and can confirm this gholdengo isnt doing shit

this is super helpful thanks, ill check this out rn

[noble zodiac]

https://pokepast.es/207062d393edb974
Any suggestion/ comments on it?
I found my team can’t deal with iron moth well, any suggestion on that?
and against tera fairy defensive mons like garganacl, i don’t really find a way to deal with it, so i might need to add gholdengo to the team? Which mon should i replace it with?
Any suggestion would be helpful, thanks

also would covert cloak work on corviknight be better? Since i can prevent spore from amoongus

[sly mauve]

That prevents secondary effects, sleep on spore isnt a secondary effect

[noble zodiac]

oh it doesn’t prevent spore?

nvm then 😅thanks

[wanton root]

https://pokepast.es/a3ded91cad86a570

@green citrus

[drowsy mural]

@solid sinew so far the changes are solid af, but i seem to have trouble with dnite

but ig thats a issue for most rain teams

[cerulean marsh]

https://pokepast.es/0c21eb87bb5e2e8a
is this team any good?

[silk hamlet]

Its not

[sly mauve]

Am I thinking of National 'Dex?

[silk hamlet]

Yea

[sly mauve]

Sorry.

[tired yew]

Give him protect

[drowsy mural]

Need help finishing this, ran into a wall here. Core looks solid for the most part ? was thinking if not scizor then maybe iron treads instead

[silk hamlet]

Dd pult isnt the best for this kinda team, also next time use the comp general channels for unfinished teams

[drowsy mural]

Oh ic

Would you mind telling me what type of teams does DD pult work best in ?

[silk hamlet]

Hyper offense with screens support generally

[drowsy mural]

ooh ok

thank you

[worldly marlin]

https://pokepast.es/8023b2d9951d6699
any advice for improvement? i have a hard time facing off against Tusk

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[ancient ravine]

https://pokepast.es/ee6d51bdc152047a

I wanted to use pivots to get Chien and Iron Hands in safely, similar to Weavile teams of last gen

Oh Swarm is meant to be Technician, that slipped my mind but yeah

[neon current]

https://pokepast.es/de31dff4838213ba

Took this team to top 100 on the ladder, but I'm pretty sure it can be made better.

[hazy plank]

Now am gonna steal it 🙂

Tho why is kingambit Tera fairy?

[neon current]

I hate flying because of all the Chien Pao running around.

but you can def put in Flying instead, will match up way better against Tusk.

[hazy plank]

Oh

[neon current]

also, could add a hazard to Glimmora, but I just attack with this thing.

[hazy plank]

If gambit is gone u r weak to Chien-Pao ya

[hazy plank]

Same it's the element of suprise

But might add spike

[neon current]

ye. The strategy is to basically attack relentlessly to wear them down, and then clean up with Gambit, Dragonite, or Hatterene at the end.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1772923521-15ihfdzgugqzhntzci01vmruj03rrv9pw

It's a weird team because you always win with a low amount of mons on your team. That's why part of me feels like it's not that good, since I mostly win with 1-2 pokemon left.

[young owl]

https://pokepast.es/77001875a2c0b952
Inspired by mudkipnerd, core: flamigo, espathra

[silk hamlet]

https://pokepast.es/36fe95e59f0c0d96

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[green citrus]

tis SLOW

and weak

[granite bear]

^

i don't see the point of toedscruel

[silk hamlet]

Spinner spiker dude

Thats it

[green citrus]

its a niche pick for offence

as like a lead

[silk hamlet]

I could do pult last

[green citrus]

defensively it is balls

[silk hamlet]

And make this more offensive

https://pokepast.es/481a227b5e193e3b

[green citrus]

toed wants to be max speed

p sure

for tusk and glimmora and the such

[silk hamlet]

Sure

[green citrus]

if u rly wanna build toed

start over and build offence

it literally is just a lead type thing rn

[silk hamlet]

Aight

[rose hinge]

https://pokepast.es/84de469427b63daf

[drowsy mural]

Toed with no spore

Interesting

[tranquil sedge]

Could I get a rate on this team? Baxcalibur Bulky Offense. Idea is to weaken Corv/Dozo/Dirge with Slither Wing and then sweep with Bax. It's a little Valiant and Tera Fairy weak.
https://pokepast.es/e5cdc770ab3b77de

[exotic kite]

https://pokepast.es/a2a397ad42b584c8

BO but dont know what to add as last member

so just slapped chomp on there as placeholder

[stone dagger]

https://pokepast.es/2d36e3f27866794e kinda bulky balance

[exotic kite]

that looks more like bulky offense

looks solid

[proven hare]

https://pokepast.es/eae598dace748451
@green citrus I think you will love this. It's a Volt Turn Breaker Spam

Scarf Chomp and Specs Valiant murder Offense

C Pao and Edge murder Fat

[green citrus]

its dope, not huge on rocks-spin treads but beyond that it has some favs

[proven hare]

Rotom-W and Treads pivot them around

[proven hare]

True, but compression was needed

[green citrus]

i get u

[proven hare]

I just observed one thing
This team can be called Blade Spam

4 blade mons

[green citrus]

The Blades Of Chaos

[proven hare]

Brilliant

Feel like making an RMT on them

[dry edge]

Hey. Any reason for Mirror Herb Corvi?

[exotic kite]

mostly used against setup

Quaq and Dragonite

[dry edge]

Seems rather unreliable, what about the EVs?

[exotic kite]

my friend gave the EV's says theyre good optimization against physical sweepers

[supple forge]

Just run max phy def

[exotic kite]

Ya i did chsnge it into lefties, also changed tox haze into recover

[dry edge]

Ya the issue is that they can, switch out you know

And then come back later when you don't have Herb

Haze is alr

[green citrus]

Hi Sestu

[dry edge]

Acid Spray might not be it

[dry edge]

Hey

[low quarry]

https://pokepast.es/3b322a0c5aa683b3 My long unawaited return to smogon

[silent parcel]

does someone have an old SV OU team back when Chi-Yu was still allowed? Looking for a team like that for my nintendo switch

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[final pebble]

I think you definitely want some removal that isn't Court Change

since VoltTurn cores are all about coming and and out... having hazards on your field is really bad for that kind of play. Court Change functions well but removes your own hazards which is not idea for this kind of team imo

[low quarry]

https://pokepast.es/3b322a0c5aa683b3 this team was good for low ladder, but falls apart completely against 1200-1300 teams

[frozen hinge]

@grizzled path use pokepaste when sending your team

[thin prairie]

https://pokepast.es/2b1dc2c71d5be387 featuring nutty gholdengo set

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[agile lava]

very solid team

though i think bulk up tusk would work better here

[thin prairie]

over knock?

[agile lava]

nah over cc

[thin prairie]

alr

[agile lava]

i’ll send the spread

in a minute

but i think it’ll play off better with chien as ull be breaking a lot w it

and then late game

tryna win w tusk

[thin prairie]

hmm yeah

not sure if i should do tect over block on garg

[agile lava]

yea i was gonna say

protect is much better

Great Tusk @ Leftovers
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 248 HP / 16 Atk / 200 Def / 44 Spe
Impish Nature

• Earthquake
• Knock Off
• Bulk Up
• Rapid Spin

steel tera is there because i think this team doesnt appreciate switching into valiant

and being able to just tera and beat it with a boosted tusk is always nice

will taking away the flower trick weakness and ice spinner

[thin prairie]

yeah this team really struggles vs valiant

[agile lava]

can u explain the rotom set?

[thin prairie]

holdon

[agile lava]

alr

[thin prairie]

oh i remember

2hko from specs valiant

with protect

moonblast

[agile lava]

yea u probably wont need it

and i think

dragonite is too big of a threat if rotom gets weakened

if u arent tera steel rotom as well

i also think it should be physdef

[thin prairie]

wouldnt amoonguss take care of it

and fair i should prob make it pdef

[agile lava]

if something is already slept amoonguss can get ice spinnered

and then they just dd as u clear smog again

u can tera amoonguss

but rotom is much more useful if its terad than amoonguss

imo

but yea ull definitely be fine vs it

[thin prairie]

fair

[agile lava]

with tusk + rotom + amoonguss

but yea protect on garg too

over block

but overall really solid team bro

[thin prairie]

sweet

[green citrus]

https://pokepast.es/47999938102276af

Need help from the fellow raters; struggling to break 1900 with this. My biggest issue has been those garganacl + wisp volc cores

Ive considered gunk on ace but dropping wisp for tusk seems annoying and also doesnt help if the garg is tera water

Im down to replace valiant but i need a scarfer good into chien and pult and also functions as somewhat of a fighting resist. Gholdengo fits the bill but i dont want to triple steel lol

[silk hamlet]

https://pokepast.es/70d8e2d337e2688d

[eager tinsel]

https://pokepast.es/457b9031f561cbb4

random ass snow

[green citrus]

Its an okay team

Minus the froslass

Hail in general idt is necessary, id make slowking just spdef heavy duty boots

Futureport around with chien

[eager tinsel]

id need physdef to tank phys hits

[green citrus]

From what tho

A lot of the physicals are darks

And slowkings physdef is ass

[eager tinsel]

not all of them

just some

great tusk and chomp are examples

quaquaval

dnite having not set up

idk about cinderace though

[green citrus]

All the same

Id drop icy rock and froslass

[eager tinsel]

ok

there are no good blizzard users

[green citrus]

Indeed

[eager tinsel]

either slow

or weak

[green citrus]

Hail is pretty like, not worth

But slowking chien is good

[eager tinsel]

chien is like the only option but your dumb if you use chien

[green citrus]

U have futureport into chien and give it defence + it doesnt have to tera to break

So u can tera smth aids like garg

[eager tinsel]

yeah

[green citrus]

@agile lava @dry edge i trust u twos opinions, wdyt

I was thinking maybe tusk and dengo over valiant and treads, or maybe dengo over treads and just use court change as removal

[plush yacht]

do people here rate gen 9 ou teams?

[green citrus]

A few options r present

But idk

[green citrus]

Yes

[plush yacht]

https://pokepast.es/c56c3c57aab3ee95

rate this girl

[green citrus]

Trying to think off rhe top of my head, my wifi is ass so i cant access build to see what its weak to

It struggles to break

Thats the main thing

Stall MU is extreme pain

[plush yacht]

https://pokepast.es/f9e172868dc04d34

[viral sable]

New OU RMT @worn arrow, @ruby crest, @fallow crag, @frigid sierra, @agile lava, @daring violet, @granite bear, @dry edge, @green citrus. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

[plush yacht]

rate my girl

[green citrus]

Uh

Its a weird gimmick team

Its hard to rate

It wont work vs any solid player

[daring violet]

veluza needs to go completely for a a bulky water, maybe a pex or a slowking because this team is really weak to rain teams

[daring violet]

idk what kind of blissey this is, but needs to go

[green citrus]

@daring violet while ur here rate my team as WELL

Ik im a rater but doesnt matter

[daring violet]

go for a standard blissey set maybe sr, stoss, softboil, shadow ball (for gholdengos)

[daring violet]

ofc send it up

[green citrus]

@daring violet up here

I listed the issue i was having

[daring violet]

lastly maybe go for a life orb swords dance set for scizor since i feel like the double combo of physical attackers having cb can be overwhelming

[green citrus]

Currenr testing im doing is

Gunk ace + tera ground on chomp

Since it can 2hko garg if knocked

[daring violet]

i really like the team, small suggestions: go with def go with tera ground on chomp, cind I would go with gunk shot to handle fairy nacl

or you can go with covert cloak gambit since high ladder dont usually have body press nacl

maybe go modest on valiant, thats what i run for the scarf set because i think going timid its a little lackluster in power

cind is your best bet against volc (tera fire) or just keep hitting with pyro ball

cus most volcs have a grass / fire move combo

[green citrus]

Yeah ill do this i forgot

Ill consider cloak on gambit but man the power of glasses

Thingnis

Breaking garg on its own is doable

[daring violet]

i agree just saying in case garg continues to be annoying

good option

[green citrus]

But a lot of fucks rn are running it with physical def volc

So i just cleave or head into a burn

And its rly frustrating

I will go eith tera ground on chomp for sure tjo

Dropping wisp ace is sad but not the end of the world

[daring violet]

^

[silk hamlet]

@green citrus you got your team rated now rate mine

We have a deal violetta san

[green citrus]

Look

Let me eat my meal, and then ill hop on my laptop

And rate it for

U

[silk hamlet]

Ill allow it this time...

[green citrus]

Its easier when i can scroll through the OU list to see what destroys it

[silk hamlet]

Fair lol

[exotic kite]

I also got a team rdy to be rated

if anyones interested

[green citrus]

Post it

Ill try to get to it after glimmers

[exotic kite]

bet

lemme just finish my game

[green citrus]

Tyt

[exotic kite]

https://pokepast.es/2940f84266cd920b

@green citrus

now keep in mind i made it in 10 minutes

[green citrus]

The sylveon is questionable

[exotic kite]

but i want to use a core of dondozo, draga and sylv

[green citrus]

Hm

Can you explain why

[exotic kite]

idk i saw on marriland that they cover most of their respective weaknesses

[frozen hinge]

thats not really how you wanna go about

making cores

at least not off type weaknesses

[green citrus]

Yeah, they stack being weak to certain mons

Such as gholdengo

[exotic kite]

what makes a good core good

hen

[green citrus]

Well

Hard to explain i guess but i suppose it depends on the type of team youre going for...like uh

[exotic kite]

Bo

[green citrus]

BO okay

[exotic kite]

give me an example revolving BO

yes ty

[green citrus]

Do you have 1 specific mon you have in mind

That u rly want to use

[exotic kite]

Not really

hence why im struggling i think

[green citrus]

Ill go with dragapult for an example then

[exotic kite]

i wanted to use AV ttar first

but i struggled

aight

[green citrus]

Dragapult kind of has a rough time with pressuring ting lu, great tusk both switches in and does a lot of damage to ting lu which is great for pult. He can also reliably spin vs it which helps get pult more turns to come in and click buttons. Both are kind of weak to stuff like opposing pult, gholdengo, and valiant

So ud likely go for a third mon that patches those weaknesses

Idt a single mon covers all 3, but if u want to focus the ghosts first u could aim for kingambit

[exotic kite]

so thats how you for example go about when building teams then? analyze mons one by one and see what teammates could patch things up?

[green citrus]

Kinda of yeah. I use checklists usually, i know a lot of other people dont

[exotic kite]

yea i try to keep the sv viability open when building

but thanks i apreciate it

[green citrus]

Your team just kind of is lacking in some departments

Glimmora is usually a lead on hyper offence with gholdengo

[exotic kite]

ya i tried to make glimm work in BO

[green citrus]

dondozo is more lf a fat/balance mon to fall back on if ur getting pressured

[exotic kite]

was worth a try lmao

[green citrus]

Cinderace is at best with jist boots, switching around moves and uturning

Sylveon just...sucks unfortunately

[exotic kite]

true

but thanks ill return with my team and see whatchu think

[main mauve]

(False)

[green citrus]

okay glimmora san

im working on this now

[silk hamlet]

Thank you violetta san

Its kinda moth and ghold weak thats why i made my tauros fire spdef

[green citrus]

U LOSE TO CERULEDGE BTW JS

anyways

@silk hamlet id still make thee bull lefties

u have a strong spinner ull b fine

this team is VERY pult weak

[silk hamlet]

Its also pult weak yea

Due to my dark being hydra

[green citrus]

my thing witht his team is

a lot of it is super slow

and there isnt much momentum to be had

i feel like vs opposing offence u easily just get outpressed

and in terms of breaking u lose to dondozo type teams rly easily

@silk hamlet id restart from toedscruel and try to make it...more offensive. Try to look back on those old sash lead annihilape offences

model them off that a bit

[silk hamlet]

Ok yknow what

Ill return to the

Kingambit idea

Cloak edition

[green citrus]

jus do black glasses

try to build less around switching around into shit

pressure

ur using a lead spiker u wanna keep up pressure hard

[silk hamlet]

https://pokepast.es/8679edfac782426b @green citrus can u look at this too btw almost forgot

Ok i forgot about

Tera normal

[green citrus]

could drop hatt here for another speed control

make chomp into. chain chomp

also make volc tgrass

[silk hamlet]

Erm which speed control tho

Like a valiant?

[exotic kite]

@green citruswhat would be a good rock setter in BO

this metw

[silk hamlet]

Great tusk ting lu garchomp and garganacl are all okay rocks setters

Next time ask these typa questions in comp general channels tho

[exotic kite]

so far i got draga in the team

so maybe salt?

[silk hamlet]

This channel is for completed teams

[exotic kite]

i was asking him here since we already were discussing my team in this chat

bet

had no idea

https://pokepast.es/900911e7ac419572 @green citrus

i go 252 on all mons cause i dont know shit about chinese ev

[green citrus]

good bit better, some tweeks

[exotic kite]

im all ears

[green citrus]

boots cinderace, specs pult, black glasses on kgambit, tera fairy and protect > iron defnece on garg

and make corv physdef fully

tera water

[exotic kite]

ohhh

forgot to boot cinder

[green citrus]

also maybe physdef rotom

[exotic kite]

is this all meta sets atm or

[green citrus]

sort of yeah

[exotic kite]

hmm i see

ill go from there for sure tho

thx for help

[green citrus]

https://pokepast.es/38ddbe17d4d13d69

this

becomes a very strong volt-turn

gunk shot on cinderace helps u not get piped by opposing tera fairy garg

[exotic kite]

thx a lot

[drowsy mural]

Any glaring weaknesses here, need more brain power https://pokepast.es/c5980c8302eb5869