#Carnivores (Series)

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viral loom
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but anyways

unborn dagger
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yeah my mistake there

thorny reef
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Yo! Moderator here, knock this off

crisp stag
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Ayo @versed stirrup

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Guess who's back

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Back again

craggy dawn
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Shady’s back

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At the very least you could say they put some…soul into it

plush pewter
thorny reef
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It's all cool, willing to be a fresh slate here, just remember what this room is for is to discuss the games and propose ideas for what a remaster project can look like. Tangents from that can happen, don't worry about being smited for general excitement, but this is less of a hangout spot and more of a rally point, if that makes sense

craggy dawn
unborn dagger
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Godzilla and Venator in the same room

versed stirrup
upbeat hearth
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O wait

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So im calling van Helsing, to free your soul from the devil (tatem) or something idk

versed stirrup
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When I tranquilize a dinosaur with missile launcher

prisma oyster
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I heard that Venator was here

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where?

thorny reef
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hey, are y'all gonna be cool or do I need to keep a constant eye here?

versed stirrup
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Keep constant eye on those who keep constant eye on saga banned member

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We're chill

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Or at least I am

prisma oyster
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I haven't spoken here for 3 days

upbeat hearth
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Keep Constant eye for sure

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We could never know when some sneaky individual tries to troll us

worthy star
crisp stag
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Like people rather believe in aliens that in the fact that I changed

crisp stag
rain hatch
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Made an JWD final battle resound with Carnivores sfx to like this one

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I covered every single speech with death sounds of humans and i choked myself during the making

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i died of laughter when making the people make the UAAGGHH everytime they talk

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especially the one at 1:28

cursive kelp
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Ok

granite edge
knotty spade
craggy dawn
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Man who is this guy?

desert nova
craggy dawn
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Embrace ye sea shanties lad

desert nova
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Argh

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Me matey

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There be treasure

cursive kelp
craggy dawn
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Genuinely thought the announcement that the Carnivores remaster came out and started tweaking

upbeat hearth
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What

crisp stag
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Btw I hope a carnivore fan buys the rights of the series.

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Possibly Isachenko

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So we could get Carnivores 4 : Return Of The Ancients

viral loom
versed stirrup
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Host bump up dinosaur health to 1024 just cause

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Ngl C2 multiplayer will be an absolute disaster

unborn dagger
orchid night
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Absolutely zero reason to have multiplayer in carnivores

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Only place it would fit would be cityscape

versed stirrup
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Imagine the entire server just activate debug mode

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Imagine if there's a friendly fire

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Meh

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It would still be cool

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We were waiting for multiplayer since Carnivores 2

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Getting one in Remastered Collection would be nice

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And host it on something that is not GameSpy

unborn dagger
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meh idk

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they can always just disable some admin thing

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multiplayer would be cool for the remaster

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Hunting games nowadays seem to go for multiplayer too, and it’s fun

upbeat hearth
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Would be Buggy as hell

orchid night
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majority of modern multiplayer titles are fps based

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to say a hunting game like carnivores multiplayer would die quickly would be an understatement

orchid night
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but it's a different question if it's - should we do it?

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is it worth implementing it into the game

upbeat hearth
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Only the community would play such thing for a long time

unborn dagger
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it’s a new thing atleast..

upbeat hearth
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The multiplayer

unborn dagger
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it’s not supposed to be exaggerated

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just a fun multiplayer in like js a duo or trio

orchid night
unborn dagger
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plus it can always help expand the trophy rooms more

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people can collect their different trophies or collect one for both

orchid night
unborn dagger
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plus supply ships will be more of a clutch and very supportive

orchid night
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you may think it would be fun but trust me it would get boring quick

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it would be fun for about 5 minutes

unborn dagger
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whatever

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multiplayer will likely be done by modders nonetheless

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you can’t really stop it from happening

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it’s gonna be a thing eventually

orchid night
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it just doesn't make sense to have it

unborn dagger
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what’s the difference still

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it being mod or not mod

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it’s not forcing you to play multiplayer

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it’s just another gamemode like Survival mode

upbeat hearth
unborn dagger
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and survival mode should def be a base game mode

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it’s more iconic

orchid night
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there's no co-op involved

unborn dagger
orchid night
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there's no campaign

unborn dagger
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campaigns are boring

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that’s the problem why multiplayers can suck

orchid night
unborn dagger
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it’s better when you have freedom over the game

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and not forced to follow specific tasks

orchid night
orchid night
unborn dagger
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do you even read..

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it could help flesh out the trophy rooms much better

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perhaps even add advanced traversal system through modding

orchid night
unborn dagger
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and what’s not fun in traversing maps with your friends

orchid night
orchid night
unborn dagger
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plus the fact hunting is also gonna be more supportive

orchid night
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it would be fun yes but only for a bit

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it would get repetitive and boring quick just running around shooting NPC dinosaurs with like 1 or 2 friends

unborn dagger
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you know you always got back-up

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and it’s gonna be fun just planning some proper hunting strategy

unborn dagger
orchid night
unborn dagger
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it’s not gonna end quickly if the modding community will just go on and expand the game entirely and drop new content for people to play

orchid night
unborn dagger
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when did i mean it as some tactical fps lmao

orchid night
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where you plan grenade line-ups

upbeat hearth
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I think we could make something Fun out of the multiplayer, like If friendly fire Is allowed, a player must be at Constant watch of other players in the map who would kill him and stole his kill, "poacher" mode, I would say

unborn dagger
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fym “grenade line-ups”

orchid night
unborn dagger
orchid night
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that's simply not how it works my friend

unborn dagger
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🤦‍♂️

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yeah i’m not gonna discuss this further

orchid night
unborn dagger
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literally you make it sound it like it fucking sucks

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not even “didn’t mention i don’t like it”

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no

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straight up hate for it

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nothing more

orchid night
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i said it would get boring

unborn dagger
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not everyone will have the same thoughts of it being boring

orchid night
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quick

unborn dagger
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not everyone is the same

orchid night
unborn dagger
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some may find it boring afterwards, some may still find it fun to play from time to time

orchid night
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what hunting games have multiplayer?

unborn dagger
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even then the game doesn’t force you to play multiplayer

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you can always go for singleplayer

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as it’s the base gameplay type

orchid night
unborn dagger
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multiplayer can always be a fun gamemode like survival mode

orchid night
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do you know any hunting games that have multiplayer?

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i'm actually curious

upbeat hearth
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Call of the wild perhaps

versed stirrup
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eh

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um

unborn dagger
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let’s see…

Call of the Wild
RDR (at some degree, it does encourage fishing and hunting at times, and the roster of animals is pretty big too for that)
Hunting Simulator
Monster Hunter can also count as one as the main goal is to basically hunt down monsters and collect their materials or some rare items; it also encourages you to play with friends for a more fun and easier experience

versed stirrup
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prehistoric hunt

unborn dagger
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and so on

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there’s also hunting games on roblox but i’m not gonna count those for obvious reasons

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still

upbeat hearth
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TheHunter Primal had multiplayer

unborn dagger
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there’s a rather wide variety of hunting games that have multiplayer

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and nobody complained

upbeat hearth
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But is dead, unfortunately

unborn dagger
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modern and all

orchid night
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there's no real reason to add multiplay into carnivores other than''it would be cool...'' and ''it would be fun...''

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no real innovations or uniqueness is involved

upbeat hearth
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Carnivores is also boring when you walking across the map Just to get a kill, It depends of the map

unborn dagger
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holy shit it’s as if you don’t understand that it can encourage the modding community to finally implement fully expanded trophy rooms that can be edited with your friends, as you expand the entire trophy map with different rooms or trophies around. It will also encourage for some actual traversal updates like jeeps and boats, with somebody always driving, one shooting and one making sure the vehicle stays up. Then it can also benefit against packs / herds of animals, as it’s easier to keep track on the surrounding and also make sure to get more targets in a faster time

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and also you won’t feel lonely most of the time

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even then, like Cecom said, singleplayer also gets boring

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you walk and shoot, walk and shoot

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same wasd + LC gameplay

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what’s the difference?

orchid night
unborn dagger
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multiplayer atleast somewhat goes over that and opens up for more potential addons

craggy dawn
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Co-op carnivores would probably be the best idea

unborn dagger
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go back to some fps then

orchid night
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chill

unborn dagger
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or back to staying in some lonely singleplayer gameplay loop

orchid night
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it's not that deep

upbeat hearth
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Vehicles on the atmosfear engine, I dont think It would be possíble tho

craggy dawn
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“Lonely singleplayer gameplay loop”
Gonna be honest, it just seems like you hate singleplayer

unborn dagger
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you’re protecting singleplayer while it features the same issues as multiplayer from your perspective, but it’s just one player

unborn dagger
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but it’s not like Singleplayer lacks that

orchid night
unborn dagger
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it’s gonna have gameplay loops one way or another

craggy dawn
unborn dagger
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there’s a whole mod based around a boss battle

craggy dawn
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You only hate it a little bit?

unborn dagger
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although it’s still a concept

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but modders can always bring in bosses and so on

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the ideas aren’t limited as long as there’s a possibility

orchid night
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by that logic you can just take any game and add multiplayer and it would become 5x more fun

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no matter what

unborn dagger
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“any game” 😭

orchid night
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that's not how this works

unborn dagger
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holy shit

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literally the main topic is hunting games

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not “any game”

orchid night
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because the 'experience would be elavated you can do so much more'

unborn dagger
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not every game has the same hunting genre as carnivores

orchid night
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like you can say the same shit about anything

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it wouldn't be a game changer

craggy dawn
unborn dagger
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yeah

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it’s as if you literally don’t give a fuck about having fun with friends

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and just sit all alone in the game

orchid night
unborn dagger
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doesn’t matter

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do you literally enjoy playing with friends or being alone in a game

orchid night
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oh this singleplayer game is getting boring time to add multiplayer that'll make the experience 10x better im sure

unborn dagger
orchid night
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that'll change a whole lot for sure

craggy dawn
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I mean this arguments going on for a hot minute so you seem to think it matters

unborn dagger
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stay in your lone gameplay then

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not everyone wants to sit in the same gameplay loop and have fun by their own

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some want to enjoy the game with their friends

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company is also a thing for even hunting games

orchid night
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it simply isn't worth it other than ''it's cool''

unborn dagger
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even irl hunting can be done with multiple people

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it doesn’t always have to be just you

craggy dawn
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Gonna be honest, if you can only get enjoyment from being with other people, then that says something, not sure what it is but it’s something

orchid night
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i wouldn't mind playing it actually

unborn dagger
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then why are you against it

orchid night
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but i don't expect to be entertained by it for long

unborn dagger
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if you wouldn’t mind playing multiplayer

orchid night
unborn dagger
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the only argument is that it will get boring afterwards, but like your argument, that happens for any game

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people will tend to get bored by anything after they played for enough time

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there won’t be nothing new unless some big updates or addons/dlcs are done

orchid night
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it would just be a one-time thing you do randomly then a couple days later forget about it

unborn dagger
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meh

orchid night
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which is why i say

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it's not worth it

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sorry to break it to ya

unborn dagger
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i doubt EVERYONE is gonna forget multiplayer is a thing

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after playing it a single time

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they find enjoyment in it, they’ll play more

unborn dagger
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it’s about taking a taste, then deciding whenever or not it’s good

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it’s just as optional as the survival mode in carnivores

orchid night
unborn dagger
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it’ll come back eventually, it’s never gone entirely

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it’d still be nice to have a new gamemode that isn’t just survival mode where you look around and shoot through dinosaur waves

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and again, multiplayer can always have new mechanics

orchid night
unborn dagger
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doesn’t need to be traversal or new trophy rooms

orchid night
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also people say 'multiplayer was teased' in what way?

unborn dagger
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huh?

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when was it teased

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who the hell said that

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Multiplayer was never teased

orchid night
unborn dagger
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it has always been a concept mod for C2, done by Ornithomimid1

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even then the test went with just them playing on different devices afaik

unborn dagger
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yeah i heavily doubt any Multiplayer was even teased

orchid night
unborn dagger
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the only thing to have been done ‘officially’ on multiplayer was the C2 multiplayer test done by Orni

upbeat hearth
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Well I guess we Will only know for sure when It becomes a thing, calm down fellas, is not even a thing within MEE yet

unborn dagger
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right now the only limit is just suggesting or wishing for it

unborn dagger
orchid night
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just don't see it being an official thing done by devs

craggy dawn
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I’ve pretty much said everything I can about this, so ima just watch now

unborn dagger
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again, modders will always just do it ig

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i still don’t see the difference between having it base game or modded

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base game would just be easier to handle with modding as it’s in the game code and doesn’t need to be rewritten entirely

upbeat hearth
orchid night
unborn dagger
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or have it done from scratch

orchid night
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unless hey have the source code which for sure they won't

unborn dagger
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and there’s 0 codes for it

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nothing

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done from scratch

unborn dagger
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coding isn’t just about altering an existing code, it’s about expanding it too

orchid night
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tell me you have zero knowledge about game development without telling me

unborn dagger
orchid night
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you're a bit too wild with your imagination buddy lole

unborn dagger
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despite the game itself solely being singleplayer, and nothing proving there was multiplayer plans for it

craggy dawn
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I’m not sure why you want multiplayer so badly

orchid night
craggy dawn
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Niche

orchid night
unborn dagger
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i just want to have fun with my friends, that’s abt it.
I enjoy hunting alone since it gives more of a challenge but eh, i do want to have fun with friends at some point too

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sure, it kind of just

craggy dawn
unborn dagger
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becomes too easy later on

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because you’re hunting in a group of people, and the challenge kind of fades

orchid night
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''man pepsi man is so boring but multiplayer will sure be a game change ill have so much more fun''

unborn dagger
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😑

orchid night
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cause multiplayer is always that special ingredient that will completely change the expecrience

unborn dagger
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different game genres grow different interests and gameplay

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not “every singleplayer game” requires literal multiplayer

orchid night
unborn dagger
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atp i could just mention tetris or pac man

orchid night
unborn dagger
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not every single game on singleplayer forces multiplayer

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literally it depends on how the gameplay is done and the genre on it’s own.

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One can be more fun and balanced with singleplayer

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another one the opposite with multiplayer

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it’s about having options, not forcing it

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Horror games for example are more enjoyable alone as they give the proper horror atmosphere better and you can follow through the gameplay without big distractions

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then there’s Sandbox games that are basically just made to do whatever you desire, and there the atmosphere of the game is entirely dependant on you, which is where multiplayer also comes in clutch as it gets more fun

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it all depends on the genre and base gameplay

orchid night
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so what's your point

unborn dagger
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maybe not every horror game will have a fun multiplayer

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like Resident Evil or Silent Hill

orchid night
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yeah bro ur argument has no kind of purpose any more

unborn dagger
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your only argument was literally mentioning “every game” when the genre was solely hunting

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and literally missed the point on the potential for new additions/mechanics for multiplayer

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your points were weaker, i don’t see why they had any more purpose

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eitherway i leave my thought: Multiplayer should be a thing, basegame or modded, whatever.

upbeat hearth
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By the way, can MEE allow multiplayer?

unborn dagger
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the base ‘res’ is somewhat there

upbeat hearth
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Hmm alright

unborn dagger
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but as of now Orni’s focusing on the more base gameplay than multiplayer

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so we are probably never getting much progress until base MEE is more fleshed out

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i’m more excited for new AIs anyway

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the semi-aquatic and the aggressive fliers

frigid skiff
unborn dagger
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it’s how the creators can be reached

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from what i’ve heard, it’s quite tough

orchid night
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what makes you think this wouldn't happen to carnivores multiplayer

upbeat hearth
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TheHunter Primal got abandoned by the developers by alot of reasons, one of them is that It was a experimental spin off from the Hunter series, never was intended to have a long-term life span, It was created using the Hunter classic engine which by the devs perspective was Very limited, and It also didnt have any kind of mod support so There was no way the community could expand on It, also didnt have a stabilish big community unlike its older and New brothers, comparing to carnivores I guess you could say It has some similarities but Also are Very different scenarios, carnivores has a big active community and can expand on the engine via modding.
Initial release of the multiplayer feature could be quite bare bones and buggy, which I could see some people being turn off, but as time passes It could be improved on it and become a more polish experience

orchid night
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i dont think carnivores community is as big are you say it is

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it's not small either but i don't think it's big enough to sustain a healthy multiplayer playerbase

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not even close

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trust me it's not worth it

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just be happy with c2 multiplayer if it comes out someday which is never

upbeat hearth
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Wait a Second Bro im having dinner

upbeat hearth
# orchid night i dont think carnivores community is as big are you say it is

Its bigger than theHunter Primal thats for sure, which died because of the devs
Also carnivores is as big as a hunting game from the late 90s can be, which is enough to have 7 to at least 3 players in the same server, not including custom made servers, initially.
Hunting games would never be as big as fps and other genres, Trust. Me. Bro, the community Will keep It Alive in long term plus It has the Tool to modify every single thing to the better, you played the single player, you know what to expect from the multiplayer, Just its existence alone proves that we can do alot more than we expected, MEE Already proved this, and by achieving multiplayer Just add more to the Already know fact
Death will only comes when the saga dies, which we all agree, its not on the near future

plush pewter
unborn dagger
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Mhm

graceful ermine
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not to mention a new release of any kind can bring in even more numbers

unborn dagger
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Not to mention carnivores is the most voted game to be remastered rn

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So saying that the community is "not as big as you think it is" is a huge underestatement

unborn dagger
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Its gonna gain attention rather quickly considering Carnivores was also known for it's mobile ports which were pretty popular back then

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soo

frigid skiff
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I think the mobile ports did a lot of heavy lifting getting peopple interestedin the IP

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But it's the modders that kept people around

unborn dagger
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Yeah

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Modding saved Carnivores from becoming pure lost media

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Anyways, it's obvious the guy has little to no knowledge on the community of carnivores

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saying that the game is barely recognised and how the community is tiny js proves it

versed stirrup
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They're not in the community

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Who can blame them

worthy star
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10 more votes for 600

versed stirrup
unborn dagger
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not a carnivores fan

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he’d never get it

nova mica
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The MEE version of the game plans to eventually have multiplayer, which as far as we know would only be through private hosting and not some dedicated server/s or anything like that

unborn dagger
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Dedicated servers would be quite a pain to handle

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A bunch of players in a single map and a few huntables is too much

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It is supposed to be a hunting session nyway, not a whole ass school trip or whatever

undone abyss
polar birch
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Yesterday I installed the carnivores 2 mod legacy, and it seems purty good. Does anyone have protips on making some points fast catpolite

versed stirrup
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Or charge head first into a mouth of a hungry carnivore

polar birch
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I was thinking the bigger a dino is, the faster it is to spot 😛

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And having no tools, but pick the tranq thang

polar birch
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But I do miss the radar

versed stirrup
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Not the case.....

polar birch
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Tell me your wisdom, Majunga

versed stirrup
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Large dino are somehow harder to spot than smaller dino

polar birch
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But... theyre bigger on the horizon

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🦒

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Imagine if it got a remaster, and the level of detail and the draw distance wasnt awful pain

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You may say not the case again

rustic lava
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I just farmed stegosaurus for a bit, unlocked the shotgun and farmed velociraptor packs with it

forest atlas
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debugup

versed stirrup
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Oh great

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Another alt

forest atlas
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this is not An alt of someone

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why do you keep thinking im a alt of some guy

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Who are you to btw

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are you the reason why i got banned in saga

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im not you

graceful ermine
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who said it was your alt?

forest atlas
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im different person

forest atlas
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ok ill agree with.. whatever or who are you i know about you a little from moddb

graceful ermine
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there are no mentions of that in here

forest atlas
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I am not him

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True

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im not him

graceful ermine
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but how would you have known if according to fan2025 here, they do not know you

forest atlas
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in saga i said that i felt bad for godzila3012

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me and goji guy have been talking about our saga bans and identity crisis

forest atlas
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ye

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there was no mention of you when i join

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Untill G.M.R

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@graceful ermine

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he mentiond @rain hatch '

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and i knew him from moddb

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but not that much

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because im a guest in there

forest atlas
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yes

forest atlas
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what is this south park gif's context

polar birch
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You may take one guess

forest atlas
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us debating

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@polar birch am i right?

viral loom
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We should really stop bring drama into a chat that doesn't need it

broken sinew
forest atlas
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dude

broken sinew
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no matter how hard you try hiding your emails you still behave the same

forest atlas
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pinging is a normal thing

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context of gifs

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they are normal things

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not

broken sinew
forest atlas
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exclusive to people

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things are not exclusive with one person

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asscosciate something as a example

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like anything

broken sinew
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i'm not gonna continue this convo but the moderators should take care of you imo

forest atlas
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ok

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so

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what

forest atlas
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things are not exlcusive to people

viral loom
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Funny

polar birch
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Whats the ages of everyone in here special

viral loom
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18

broken sinew
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19

forest atlas
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13

graceful ermine
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29

polar birch
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A lot of it just stinks of teen drama

viral loom
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And stupid drama

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That isn't

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Needed

forest atlas
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ok fine

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zerer

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and you

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will accept me and you as one person

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fine

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ill accept that now

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even tho we are not the same

versed stirrup
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She's 16 and she regret it

polar birch
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Man, if only gamers got senior discounts on steam

viral loom
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Wrong gif

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I mean it makes no sense to bring drama on here in the first place

polar birch
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They especially make no sense, when im lookjing in here, and theres like 3 layers of drama going on by people with names like "Glob4006060x"

viral loom
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Like the saga 2.0 stuff

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Which is stupid

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And unrelated

forest atlas
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Fuck this shit im out of here

viral loom
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I did

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And I also don't have to

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Idc about drama

versed stirrup
graceful ermine
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can you not

versed stirrup
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I am now Cactus as I use her reaction face irl

viral loom
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No

viral loom
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No

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no

versed stirrup
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Let's

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Let's just leave

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Let's let's

viral loom
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Don't ruin shite

versed stirrup
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Let's just play Fortnite

graceful ermine
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@thorny reef

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we're gonna need some moderation

viral loom
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Shite drama

versed stirrup
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Was about to ask if this is 8pm pacific time

polar birch
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Can we ban everyone in here

viral loom
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No

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Only 1

polar birch
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Give carnivores remasters and then ban

versed stirrup
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Let's just play Fortnite boys

viral loom
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We don't need stupid dumb drama in a chat that doesn't need drama at all

polar birch
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Whats this about foreskin

viral loom
#

Drama smells like a rotting lobster

polar birch
#

Is that a server for only cis fortnite players

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Am I close doe

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What a time to be alive (you lost me)

versed stirrup
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Nobody care

cursive kelp
#

Can we get this guy banned please

graceful ermine
#

i think you've done more than enough exploding

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i've been banned from the saga at some point too
get over it

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because i made the effort to not be an ass

versed stirrup
#

I don't even use pivot

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What'd u fucking talking about

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I don't even use sticknode

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Not even that

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Why do you want to know?

dapper cipher
#

Draw cartoons 2

versed stirrup
#

Nuh

frigid skiff
#

Thats how I grinded at least

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Need to watch the wind though

upbeat hearth
#

Hello chat

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How Things going

woven peak
#

Carnivores was gonna get a steam port then Tatem failed us

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peeps still want that steam port

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Carnivores and the potential modding potential to come with the remastered visuals and bug fixes would give the community a lifelong tier dream

royal portal
polar birch
#

Thanks, dino hunter 🫡

royal portal
# broken sinew 19

you're younger than me? Holy shit I always thought you were like...25 or smth

royal portal
polar birch
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Well while im here, the legacy mod came with an "extras" folder, and im not sure where those files would go. Like the one music file. I didnt see a readme for the thing special

royal portal
#

oh, that's bonus content!

polar birch
#

I played carnivores 2 with the turok 1 and 2 soundtracks going in the background sealspindance

royal portal
#

The music is a little track for you to listen to (it's used in the survival mode)

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there are also some alt skins for you to put on the dinos, like some variants of the new dinos and higher quality replacement skins for some of the original animals

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what you gotta do is rename the alt skin to the same name as the original, then replace them in the hunt dat folder

polar birch
#

I see I see. Theres probably pics of them somewhere to compare which skins are coolest

upbeat hearth
#

What is the steam grid?

royal portal
#

Alright, my patience is really running low with you here. After the rex skin drama I was the one who advocated for giving you a second chance, but man, you now being just as annoying here as you were on the Saga makes me regret my decision. Please just fly low, I doubt the moderators here are as willing to let things slide as those on the Saga

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I fucking can't with you anymore. I know you are still a child, but you gotta have some boundaries.

royal portal
polar birch
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Dang, theyre all gorgeous dinodance

broken sinew
#

The only differences between carnotaurus skins are the snout scales

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Not sure if I should share the extra dinos' alts cause that would spoil em

upbeat hearth
#

Damn

polar birch
#

You could perhaps use a spoiler tag on the pic derp

thorny reef
#

Sorry I missed wake from the ping

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I deleted the last six hours of Godzilla's messages, so that'll be fun to figure out what happened in retrospect

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Time to sift through and see who else is getting banned

desert nova
thorny reef
#

Two bans.

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One spammer and one alt account that was created yesterday and joined here yesterday. Maybe same person, maybe someone else, either way trying to bypass something and being a nuisance

cursive kelp
#

Godzilla got banned

granite edge
broken sinew
#

Alternative versions moreso

granite edge
#

Idk they just look less detailed

royal portal
#

20

cursive kelp
#

21

upbeat hearth
#

Holy damn

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I Wonder who is the oldest member in the server

viral loom
viral loom
broken sinew
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No

unborn dagger
viral loom
#

Just with slightly better models

broken sinew
#

Golden Frog Studios made the allosaurus, parasaurolophus & dimorphodon skins, Daubeny made the pachycephalosaur skin and Inspector did stegosaurus and t.rex. I forgot who made velociraptor

unborn dagger
#

the legacy alt skins are good for a base remaster

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imo

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especially the tyrannosaurus and stegosaurus

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and the velociraptor

viral loom
#

GoldenFrog should work with ND/hj

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Also that allo reskin is still horrifying

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Because it's not possible to make the Carnivores allo not scary

viral loom
#

Do it

unborn dagger
#

i’m gonna get that allo over the kawai level of unscary

viral loom
#

I dare you Bugs Life mantis

viral loom
plush pewter
#

i told you he'd cause trouble

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lmao

worthy star
#

Not to surprised

worthy star
#

Also what the fuck happened here

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Anything from the saga should stay in the saga don’t let it be in another server that literally has no relation to the carnivores community

unborn dagger
unborn dagger
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so saga stuff gets dragged in here

unborn dagger
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even tho this forum being obviously done to discuss the possible GAME REMASTER

steady compass
#

You’re always going to get these types for any Dino themed project tbh

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Young kids or anti socials who don’t read the room

upbeat hearth
#

True

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Couldn't have Said better

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I was one myself at some point in time I think

craggy dawn
upbeat hearth
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Im 10

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Just kidding

ember granite
frigid skiff
#

47

craggy dawn
#

So apparently this is what Tatem is working on now

upbeat hearth
graceful lance
#

Yeah they do niche mobile games now

viral loom
#

That's why ND should buy the license lul

craggy dawn
#

I swear either they’re not using a good part of their staff or a good part of their staff left

worthy star
#

Even smaller after the layoffs og like 2017?

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They do what they must to keep the lights on

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And I'm sure the Ukraine war didn't help in any way to make it easier on them

craggy dawn
#

So you’re saying they’re on their last legs

worthy star
#

From what I understand they seem to be doing what they can to survive

worthy star
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One account has the 4 versions of dh and ic

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While the other one has the rest of there mobile game library

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Why

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Don't ask me idk

upbeat hearth
#

So in this case, perhaps a nightdive remaster could also benefit them in some way?

craggy dawn
#

Probably, could either give them enough money for selling the IP or get them back off the ground with shared sales with Nightdive

steady compass
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I don’t really want to share my work here but a lil concept sketch of a canon style quetzalcoatlus

jovial shore
#

Who was banned, and what i missed?

frigid skiff
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Two kids that were spamming

jovial shore
frigid skiff
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Godzilla and some other guy

jovial shore
#

They where banned how many times

craggy dawn
#

Yup

crisp stag
jovial shore
plush pewter
#

that's modern slang for a breakdown

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they were two people who were previously banned from the Carnivores Saga discord for also being an overall annoyance with other members

graceful ermine
#

need to put an * on that "two"

jovial shore
jovial shore
graceful ermine
#

the other involved was very much likely an alt of the one who was crashing out

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trying to pretend they weren't associating even though the whole reason that other got banned what because out of nowhere they mentioned and defend the banned user
then had the audacity to simultaneously say they don't know who they were yet was always in contact with them

thorny reef
#

the second person was a profile created the day they joined and one day before being banned. definitely an alt for someone, don't care whom, broke rules.

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I also deleted 5 votes, 4 from confirmable alts, one from godzilla

viral loom
vast mantle
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so what now, will the game be considered to be remastered?

wise willow
#

suppose so

thorny reef
polar birch
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They also have to contact people and make a lot of deals. If the owners say NOPE, they just look at the next popular game on the list

viral loom
#

Still hoping and praying for a Carnivores trilogy ND remaster

craggy dawn
thorny reef
#

Again, please do not vote on games if your account was created the same day you joined this server, as it is indistinguishable from an alt account.

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Im going to audit every dinosaur game given I've had to delete 5 votes from accounts that fit this criteria

woeful chasm
#

@thorny reef I sent u a DM

tawny mulch
#

I guess being a lurker on Discord really pays off!

orchid night
#

GUYS

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ACTION FORMS WEBSITE IS BACK

orchid night
#

'fortell games'

crisp stag
#

ZAMN

crisp stag
thorny reef
crisp stag
unborn dagger
#

Ngl, i really wonder if animations will be polished in the possible remaster

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i like the animations but sometimes they can look somewhat stiff if looking close enough

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maybe giving them more fluid movement similar to some modded huntables would be nice

graceful lance
#

Could just port over Legacy since it is C1 remastered

graceful ermine
#

the vanilla dinosaurs don't really have any refurbished og animations, just new ones for the new behaviors

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they're effectively still the same ol' assets just with new addons

unborn dagger
#

actually

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yeah nvm

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can js expand the anims

graceful ermine
#

realistically they would/should refurbish/mimic the og animations.

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mind as well allow all the ogs to have blink animations since only a handful of the new additions in c2 were given that originally

unborn dagger
#

give them an entire new part with proper eyelids

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idk

graceful ermine
#

i mean they're gonna have do anyways if they're making new models

unborn dagger
#

they did that with the Thing remaster

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where they js revamped the entire face for the humans

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with actual eyes

unborn dagger
#

but if they overhauled the models in other remasters

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i doubt Carnivores is being ignored

undone abyss
graceful ermine
#

debatable. for full new content sure we go all out, but there's still some conflict on doing anything related to spicing up the vanilla content (despite doing 2/3s of that already)

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it would be a good objective since realistically we would have to redo all the animations for any new models. (mainly because we don't have the original rawest animation files)

craggy dawn
worthy star
upbeat hearth
#

Ye ye

orchid night
#

But I still voted anyway

granite edge
#

Cityscape needs a remake, not a remaster...

graceful ermine
#

better graphics will not save cityscape

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any fixes cityscape essentially needs is just remaking the whole thing

worthy star
graceful ermine
#

ctiyscape being remastered will not be that success i can assure you

quaint flower
#

Damn

graceful lance
#

Man i was really bumed out that Tatem's "pre Cityscape zoo game" got canned

versed stirrup
#

Cityscape if it was made by Hideo Kojima

graceful ermine
#

actually vivisector

orchid night
#

First time hearing about that

orchid night
#

Yea sure bro it looks nicer but it's still dogshit

upbeat hearth
#

What do you mean

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Cityscape zoo game ?

graceful lance
#

So Tatem at one point was going to make a game where you would capture dinosaurs and put them in a zoo. I’ve theorized that, if the game went well, it would’ve lead into Tatem’s version of Cityscape

upbeat hearth
#

We aint getting the 600s 😔

brisk anchor
#

it's only nine more man

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have hope

thorny reef
orchid night
#

so i don't see how you thought of that theory

graceful ermine
#

because the whole reason cityscape happened is because the dinosaurs that were on the ship that crashed were meant to go into a zoo

orchid night
#

but tatem of all people

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unlikely

worthy star
#

If memory serves right

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Tatem called cityscape a failure

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And redesigned ovi and Coelo and erased it from the timeline

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I guess this new entry would of been there version of cityscape where instead of a tragedy it would of been a success story

worthy star
#

I still find Cityscape to be fun for what it is and a polished-up version with a maybe better dino campaign and extra levels would be great

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And before you say that sounds more like a remake wish doom 1+2 had extra levels and what not just because so its not entirely far fetched to think Cityscape can't get that treatment

graceful ermine
#

but see here's the thing. especially given the mindset of most of remasters. is that it's usually for games that have been able to have at least a solid form of success. cityscape by every metric is a failure and there really is no reason to even consider remastering it because it would remain a failure, which is very apparent considering no one in the community really wants to touch it unless their morbid curiosity overcomes them.
doom 1+2 can get away with it because doom was already solid and has been for decades. but cityscape fumbles throughout and the only way of saving it is by completely redoing it.
and if we're putting opinions in, i have played cityscape and while i think it had something of potential, but it is objectively bad in so many ways that i can't even consider myself playing it again unless it has undergone a complete remake.

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nightdive is not gonna take the dive for a very lackluster and heavily flawed entry of the series
even if one argues that within the original trilogy, ice age could be considered a failure too, let it be known that it is still something that has solid ground within the community considering its heavy usage in the most prominent mods of old and even new, along with still accepted as a proper entry

thorny reef
graceful ermine
#

trespasser to some degree has a solid foundation, it's only issue was being quirky with its physics gimmick which is a big charm to it.
cityscape on the otherhand is plagued with bad weapon damage + needlessly spongey enemies, implied systems that don't even work or aren't even utilized at all (like stealth), weird level loading (2-3 levels using an entire loaded map but for some reason are completely different missions in a row requiring whole new loads despite using only a fraction of the active map), and generally how blatantly rushed the whole thing feels.

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like boy let me tell you about coelophysis, those tiny feckers have way too much health for being swarm type enemies

versed stirrup
#

Then there is the cityscape pistol

graceful ermine
#

ohoho yea talk about something so useless that its just considered data bloat

versed stirrup
#

Take at least 12 shots to kill a low level enemy

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Aka this mf

graceful ermine
#

*the lowest tier enemy

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and they spawn in packs too

versed stirrup
#

Aka the only low tier enemy in the game

graceful ermine
#

so that like +48 shots for on average 4> in a group

graceful ermine
#

headshot damage doesn't exist if that wasn't apparent by the "12 shots"

graceful ermine
#

it should also be more telling that the community tries to recreate cityscape outside of the actual game

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no one has ever offered the immediate idea of "let's mod cityscape to make it better" and instead go for "let's make cityscape but in carnivores or in goldsource/source"

versed stirrup
#

While this is not the most appropriate channel to say this but aside from the goldsrc/source remake of cityscape, the other cityscape remake I want to see is in the style of Republic Commando

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A 4 player or so co-op game

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Each player/bot play as a different or same class of agent

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Replacing terrifying battle droid with dinosaur

upbeat hearth
#

I Heard that nobody has tried to mod cityscape because the engine is a pain in the ass for modding

graceful ermine
#

the most i know about its engine is that it's the serious sam engine

upbeat hearth
#

So I suppose is not worth it modding since is more easy making a entire New game instead

graceful ermine
#

basically

cunning kayak
#

HMMM... I wonder if we'll get to 600 votes on this one lol

worthy star
#

We probably will

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Which would make my prediction of 600 votes a +1 for me

viral loom
orchid night
orchid night
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It excelled In some parts

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Nah actually I shouldn't use the word excell

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But some aspects were good

iron dagger
#

best to take those aspects and refine them in a new entry if there is ever one

orchid night
#

Only way Cityscape remake is feasible is one made by fans

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Nothing official is gonna come out of new cityscape content

viral loom
#

The ND System Shock remake did fine

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And that was official

orchid night
orchid night
#

unlike cityscape

graceful ermine
#

and in that example it's a remake and not a remaster

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also the community would feel like they've been shafted if cityscape got a remake but not the original trilogy's flagship gameplay which is hunting

orchid night
#

trust me it's never gonna happen whether it's a remake or remaster

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it would be nice sure

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but odds are impossible

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even games 10x more popular than carnivores don't get remakes and y'all are discussing the possibility of the forgotten obscure mediocre spinoff game that flopped getting a remake lol

graceful ermine
#

blame the ones coping for cityscape

orchid night
#

omm pure carnivores fan cope

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i think system shock is the only 90s game remake we ever got other than doom and uhhh

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what else

orchid night
unborn dagger
#

cityscape remaster/remake is smt that is really more like a waste of time

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i mean idk what else you can do there except changing the entire thing

worthy star
#

Its time to struggle to install cityscape

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And play it and see

unborn dagger
#

why even install it

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it’s ass

worthy star
#

Last time I played I had a decent time with it

orchid night
#

it's bad

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but that's why we admire it

unborn dagger
#

meme potential ^^^^

worthy star
unborn dagger
#

i mean it did get plenty of memes in the community anyway

orchid night
#

something about the game is so unique it would be so amplified with a remake

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but that's not happening

orchid night
unborn dagger
#

that’s like the ONLY good thing abt cityscape, the fact it’s so bad it can be huge meme potential

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also the cityscape ‘hunter’ design was also a good thing to come out of it

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but that’s it

orchid night
#

at first it seems so trash but there's something about the game you can't quite find in any other

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aesthetic-wise

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atmosphere-wise

unborn dagger
orchid night
#

but it was objectively trash

unborn dagger
#

ye

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i’d rather play those steam carnivores remake games

orchid night
#

many games in post 90s were bad

unborn dagger
#

than cityscape

orchid night
#

other than half-life 2

unborn dagger
#

not really

orchid night
#

smth feels so off about them

worthy star
#

Its simply just old game clunk

unborn dagger
#

i guess the switch to a new century of gaming was damaging at first

thorny reef
orchid night
#

90s will forever be golden age

orchid night
thorny reef
#

oh heck i read wrong

unborn dagger
#

some games started doing well in early 2000s tho

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like God of War

orchid night
unborn dagger
#

that game became one of the biggest ones rn

orchid night
#

was like 6 years outdated

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serious sam 1 engine

unborn dagger
#

and it all started from the 2005 release

orchid night
#

which was like 97 or 98

unborn dagger
#

i’d say, as long as the games have proper effort them and do act like they’re making a franchise, they can be well

orchid night
unborn dagger
#

which is pretty much the thing for HL

unborn dagger
#

gow 2018

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😔

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it’s a shame most fans are newgens

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missed out on GOW1 and GOW2

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even then it’s a good example of an early 2000s / post 90s game doing well

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HL too of course

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got 2 games with different spinoffs + a whole vr one

orchid night
#

also y'all know atari owns the rights to cityscape

unborn dagger
#

and grew a rather huge community that conflicts with tf2 or gmod

orchid night
#

who also bought nightdive

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i just found out

unborn dagger
#

wait what

orchid night
unborn dagger
#

dang

orchid night
#

and they aqcuired nightdive studios in 2023

unborn dagger
#

does that mean they can technically make a cityscape remake whenever they want or smt

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without going through much issues like other IPs

orchid night
unborn dagger
#

yeah

orchid night
#

but that's jus something crazy i jsut found out

graceful ermine
#

unless you're talking about infogrames
in which case they're a publisher, not a developer

orchid night
#

i'm trippin

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yeah they aqcuired infogrames not sunstorm

unborn dagger
orchid night
#

sorry for spreading misinformation

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i apologize

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where is sunstorm right now

unborn dagger
#

eitherway, cityscape remake is like the least preferred thing from the community

orchid night
orchid night
#

quite the opposite actually

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cause the original game is so badly executed

unborn dagger
#

i mean Ice age is ig lower than both Carnivores and cityscape remake preferences

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cause theres legit 0 CIA voting

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even then it’s simply C2 with cenozoic roster and snowy maps

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really it can just be remade when the carnivores remake/remaster is out easily

graceful ermine
#

the only way a cityscape remake is accepted is if the original trilogy gets a remake since hunting is the core of the franchise's identity (which cityscape ditched entirely)

orchid night
graceful ermine
#

i know this bub

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which is why this forum is all about a remaster of the trilogy

orchid night
#

we'd be lucky if we get a remake of original carnivores

graceful ermine
#

which is why this forum is and has been all about a remaster of the trilogy, a bare minimum the community has been wanting for a very long time now

orchid night
viral loom
#

We don't need a remake/reboot

#

We already had 3

#

A remaster would be better

graceful ermine
orchid night
#

remaster is more fitting

upbeat hearth
#

Dinosaur hunt is getting mod support from the fans anyway, so wont be long until we could recreate OG carnivores games in it

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I believe

graceful ermine
#

that was years ago

orchid night
#

it can go piss off

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who actually wants that shit

#

recreating og carnivores in dinosaur hunt

worthy star
#

Me apparently

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Lol dinosaur hunt is probably my favorite entry

upbeat hearth
orchid night
worthy star
#

Mostly because I just mod it

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Modding c2 isnt really my cup of tea

upbeat hearth
orchid night
#

dinosaur hunt is a disgrace

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to the legacy of carnivores

worthy star
#

That's true

#

I can't argue much for Hunt its just bad probably worse then reborn and hd

orchid night
#

i swear to god it just kept getting worse and worse

upbeat hearth
#

The community is going to eventually mod dinosaur hunt

orchid night
#

first we had the mobile ports which weren't bad

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then we got reborn and hd which were kinda good but had tons of bugs unfinished mess and complete abandonment of og aesthetic

upbeat hearth
#

Which could allow the community to improve on It I believe

orchid night
#

then we got that dinosaur hunt dogshit

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useless

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disgraceful joke

graceful ermine
upbeat hearth
#

Or doing something new with it

orchid night
worthy star
#

Modding

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Its fun

orchid night
#

it would be very fun if it wasn't a lobotomy-inducing process with trashy animation and rigging software

worthy star
#

I just prefer hunt because its something new and I'm the only guy tinkering with it so far

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Along side a few others

graceful ermine
#

because its something new
well then imagine if the originals got the remake, that'd be something new and certainly more than what hd/reborn/dh did

worthy star
#

I honestly would be disappointed if I couldn't experience the original trilogy as close to its original form

worthy star
#

I honestly don't want to see a remake until these games are released

orchid night
#

tatem is absolutely useless

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rubbish

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disgraceful

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disgusting

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simply not acceptable

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we have been battered

worthy star
#

And cityscape either gets a remake or remaster its one or the other to me its an important entry for modders as so many stories are set around or after the events of cityscape

upbeat hearth
#

If thats true, If its going to take years Before nightdive annouce something carnivores related

#

Until then...well, I dunno

orchid night
#

i personally see them doing something with carnivores after doing turok: evolution

worthy star
#

Yes its different it's a spin-off but it deserves to be released and given a second chance

orchid night
#

i don't think carnivores is a particularly complicated game to remaster especially compared to their other titles

upbeat hearth
orchid night
#

with full on campaigns and shit

worthy star
#

Every game even c1 with the amount of c1 type mods have gotten chances to be exposed to everyone

orchid night
#

so i don't see them taking more than 2 years to get back on track

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main barrier is their other projects

upbeat hearth
#

Bundle once Said that nightdive at the moment is quite busy about business and stuff

orchid night
#

they require to finish them first

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and i think nightdives got alot on their plate atm

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so it'll take them a while

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it's gonna depend on how long it takes them to get those sorted

upbeat hearth
#

Ye, years

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Maybe not alot

orchid night
#

1 and a half is my guess

upbeat hearth
#

4 to 5, Thats My guess

orchid night
viral loom
#

Aka it's not as good as the classics

orchid night
#

iit's literally just the same game ported to another engine

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with a bunch of dogshit unity store models sprinkled in

#

absolute nonsense

worthy star
#

Hd and reborn are far superior in many aspects except for path finding

viral loom
orchid night
worthy star
#

But hunt being moddable is enough for me

orchid night
upbeat hearth
worthy star
#

?

orchid night