I think the maps are fine maybe a spruce up here and there
#Carnivores (Series)
worthy star
But unlike the dinosaurs where a little texture and model update won't hurt
Maps should remain pretty much the same
fossil forum
3 dimensional teeth?
tawny mulch
I just want the Carnivores 1 plants easily accessible dammit!
worthy star
timber narwhal
Where do you get these?
viral loom
probably the carnivores saga server
worthy star
In the carnivores saga
Which are also part of
Look in meme hall of fame
Only the most golden of gold memes are there
timber narwhal
I’ll go through them again then
viral loom
worthy star
graceful ermine
timber narwhal
Ok that one I have saved
cunning kayak
Me when it was up to me to exterminate the Dinosaurs alone
cunning kayak
Also me when I accidentally sent two survivors to their deaths by the Giganotosaurus in Carnivores Cityscape
timber narwhal
Bro this is so fucking funny
worthy star
viral loom
cunning kayak
YO GUYS! YOU'RE NOT GONNA BELIEVE WHAT I JUST DUGGED UP AND FOUND IN ONE OF MY OLD TOUT BASKETS
viral loom
wot
desert nova
YO GUYS! YOU'RE NOT GONNA BELIEVE WHAT I JUST DUGGED UP AND FOUND IN ONE OF MY O...
What
cunning kayak
My old drawing of the Carnivores Cityscape Giganotosaurus that I drew back in 1st grade! 
Well... from what I tried to
bold ruin
this is annexed territory from the carnivores discord now
timber narwhal
My old drawing of the Carnivores Cityscape Giganotosaurus that I drew back in 1s...
Not bad
desert nova
this is annexed territory from the carnivores discord now
✅
cunning kayak
It does look exactly identical to the game itself... almost lol
timber narwhal
My old drawing of the Carnivores Cityscape Giganotosaurus that I drew back in 1s...
Better than my 1st grade drawings
viral loom
officially?
timber narwhal
No
timber narwhal
I like the carchar by inspector and I think will
cunning kayak
My old drawing of the Carnivores Cityscape Giganotosaurus that I drew back in 1s...
If I remembered correctly... I think I was 5 years old when I first drew that picture-
I think?
viral loom
i once drew the classic carnivores rex at school but i lost that drawing long ago
timber narwhal
i once drew the classic carnivores rex at school but i lost that drawing long ag...
I draw like 5 dinosaurs per day at school
Probably drew over 200
viral loom
worthy star
viral loom
I wonder when we'll get an announcment from ND about this
thorny reef
years
viral loom
lol suuure
thorny reef
sorry, i thought you meant like a game announcement
there are already projects lined up, so adding this to the docket, assuming it is even able to be done, would be a process that will take years
acknowledging that there was a community effort will likely be something that can be done much sooner, but that's more of a "wow, there sure are a lot of you!" kind of thing
plush pewter
that video isn't exaggerating
thorny reef
acknowledging that there was a community effort will likely be something that ca...
currently there are a few life situations that are getting in the way of regular operations (Andre's recovery from illness and Kaiser's home repairs), and I'm pretty sure the team are working on preparing announcements for the next set of projects
viral loom
oh oks
well atleast ND probably knowing about this getting lots of attention means there'll possibly be a remaster in the future or something
empty sparrow
acknowledging that there was a community effort will likely be something that ca...
Makes sense
worthy star
ember granite
good meme
worthy star
versed stirrup
On my way to destroy Fort Ranger Ciskin
plush pewter
god the content for this is gold, i need to find more
worthy star
Have you watched game feels
storm tapir
How do we vote?
elder bluff
you click the green heart
storm tapir
Ahhh indeed it has been done
elder bluff
viral loom
Since when is there a moschops model in gmod
elder bluff
just now
viral loom
elder bluff
i just made it
elder bluff
elder bluff
versed stirrup
Moschops man real
timber narwhal
fort ciskin moschops man
primal dove
do the dance
elder bluff
primal dove
lyric juniper
this is an incredibly silly and blunt question but when do we win
/joke but is there a voting milestone we'd need to reach before Nightdive Studios takes notice?
cunning kayak
Lmao wth?
viral loom
ND will notice I just think they'd remaster this much later if they could/will
I do think they will remaster the Carnivores trilogy just not at the moment because of the other stuff they have to do
lyric juniper
being apart of the carnivores fanbase and modding community for a long time really does instill and emulate the feeling of being a neglected child going through a rough divorce case with how mishandled the ip can get at times
so itd be nice if this got any modicum of attention, even the slightest amount
i could wait for years if it meant we could get the port/remaster we've been waiting for ever since tatem games botched the steam greenlight port of the carnivores mobile game back in 2016
thorny reef
I've been keeping track of things, i've already given a short briefing of the activity to my contact with staff. I'd have more concrete feedback for you but things are a bit murky at the moment (seems like a bit of a cooling down period following the release of The Thing Remastered's patch and what seems like building up to new announcements for projects already lined up)
When things are a bit more stable, i'll make sure to reemphasize the sheer scale of the accomplishment in this entry.
lyric juniper
ily
viral loom
Yeah that's understandable
thorny reef
plus the previously mentioned curveballs
lyric juniper
ill relay this information to those interested back in our community server
viral loom
The Thing was a big thing and it makes sense no pun intended
viral loom
I've been keeping track of things, i've already given a short briefing of the ac...
Plus even if we don't have full confirmation on anything really, this is still exciting information
plush pewter
yeah, i ain't getting my hopes up but the fact that it's possibly in the scope is interesting
thorny reef
If anyone in the community is in a position to help with one of the curveballs, one of the staff had a tornado cause pretty severe damage to his house. He's fine, just needs to fix his roof. Here's the link to the gofundme https://gofund.me/9bd74856
I really want to emphasize:
this is not a bribe, this is not me trying to guilt or manipulate anyone, please do not donate if you are not in a position to afford it, he'll be fine if you don't it's already 92% done.
plush pewter
i'll spread this around and see if anyone can help
viral loom
yeah, i ain't getting my hopes up but the fact that it's possibly in the scope i...
Basically it's like they have other stuff to remaster/have plans but it is a possibility that Carnivores will be planned at some point considering the polls popularity I think
We'll just have to be patient even if we are really excited
plush pewter
yeah, just the fact that we've managed to get their attention with it is enough to have a good step forward, but it'll be a while before anything keeps it moving
viral loom
It's like I wanna play it now but ik these things take time lol
steady compass
I've been keeping track of things, i've already given a short briefing of the ac...
weird question but been meaning to ask what game has the most votes on record?
like in terms of the forum
thorny reef
weird question but been meaning to ask what game has the most votes on record?
this one, by like 130 or something
steady compass
wack
thorny reef
oh wait, you're at 522 now, more like 170 or something
steady compass
wacky
viral loom
Tbh I'm glad we have someone here that has atleast some closeness to ND to give us important info on stuff
versed stirrup
🙏
elder bluff
echo cliff
fossil forum
Hi
cunning kayak
If is see a Moschops running at me like that, I’m feeling that bastard full of lead 🤣🤣😂😂
narrow cargo
the ghoul
worthy star
desert nova
Dragon quest❗️❗️❗️
worthy star
-I hope carnivores remaster ports the mobile version of the game
-The mobile game in question
plush pewter
shame you can't get those working on the new Google Play Games Beta
it's basically an app for Desktop that lets you play mobile app games on your PC officially
viral loom
Is it just me or do the claws on the C1/C2 rex model look greyish purple?
clever flint
Thank y'all soooo much
This makes me soooooooo happy
It's amazing how almost the entire community came together to vote for this
I'm really looking forward for remasters of this series in the near future
I love this community
worthy star
We be getting about 10 votes a day
So I can see this chat getting 600 sooner rather then later
viral loom
And plus we kinda have confirmation it could get remastered after ND's cool down period and other stuff or we might atleast get some new information about it
thorny reef
And plus we kinda have confirmation it could get remastered after ND's cool down...
confirmation is a bit strong, i meant I'm gonna reach out again. no clue if i'll get any meaningful feedback
plush pewter
yeah, it's not set in stone just yet, but just on the radar of things to consider
cerulean sluice
Don't forget about these gems tho.
frigid skiff
I'd assume Carnivores is pretty likely since I really doubt TATEM is particularly protective of the IP seeing as they aren't doing anything with it anyway
plush pewter
it's kind of a gray area considering alot of outside factors
viral loom
And plus it's not a pop culture ip like Jurassic Park
primal dove
2 more now
ember granite
C'mon guys we are so close to cityscape getting 100 votes
primal prey is at 74
worthy star
Impressive
glossy glade
Interesting, I didn't knew about this series, neither any of my friends when I asked them about it. I'm surprised this has the amount of votes it does.
viral loom
If this DOES get remastered I would love someone to do a River Monsters inspired YouTube series set on FMM UV-32
worthy star
Interesting, I didn't knew about this series, neither any of my friends when I a...
Its a very old franchise that started back in 1998 I bet it would have had more of an impact on the gaming sphere if history didn't make this franchise so unlucky
But the community around this franchise isn't gigantic but they dedicated members who love and breathe the carnivores series
bleak quarry
This would be nothing short of incredible
worthy star
If these games were to be remastered it would be the first good thing to happen to this game since like
2010
Mobile ports aren't god-awful they just aren't the ideal method of playing
But If we don't count those
viral loom
Mhms
viral loom
NightDive is basically the company who revives old franchises
worthy star
I mean without them I don't think the new turok game would exist
viral loom
I guess
And most of us wouldn't have been able to play any of the games without ND
When I first played Turok 2 on my dads N64 I could barely play it because of how horrible the og controls were
worthy star
As consoles become a sorta thing of the past which saddens me more and more games are becoming lost only really available through emulators
thorny reef
When I first played Turok 2 on my dads N64 I could barely play it because of how...
doom 64 was that for me
viral loom
Iirc I got Doom 64 for free with my collectors edition of Doom Eternal
worthy star
N64 I don't think wasn't that bad for me I grew up with one but definitely can see where people would struggle with it
viral loom
With a code or something
I even still have my Doom Eternal soundtrack tape with the code to get the soundtrack that never worked lol
worthy star
viral loom
LOOK BEHIND YOU THERES A POSTOSUCHUS
I'm probably gonna play this remastered trilogy every day (when it does eventually come out) because I love Carnivores and haven't properly played in a while
and mostly because the most recent game I played in the franchise was Dinosaur Hunt a few months ago
worthy star
I'm probably gonna play this remastered trilogy every day (when it does eventual...
Honestly same
Only thing stopping me is Windows 11
viral loom
Only thing stopping me is Windows 11
For the actual originals? Since they're so old they don't currently work properly on most modern systems?
worthy star
For the actual originals? Since they're so old they don't currently work properl...
Absolutely
Its the reason mods are struggling as well
viral loom
And why a remaster is important
worthy star
Nearly every version of carnivores patched or unpatched
Is broken
Only way to play them is via software mode
And that's really not a fun way to play
viral loom
And why a remaster is important
So basically the only way to properly play them now with mod support and stuff is a remaster
worthy star
Yep
Pretty much
Unless you count the mobile and psp versions
But one
Psp is ass old and wasn't ever released physically
And two mobile doesn't have mod support or is the best version of the game
viral loom
Yeh
The only good thing about the mobile port is that you can play it on the go
and that it got me into the franchise and community when I was like 8 or something
cerulean sluice
Only way to play them is via software mode
Me when I go out for a run and find out the lake is missing lol.
plush pewter
funny enough i got mine working with 3DFX with a voodoo config, so it runs at a decently high res, and putting it into compatibility mode of Windows Vista worked out for me so i get no crashes, and i'm in Windows 11 mind you
cerulean sluice
I can run MEE in 3DFX.
plush pewter
yeah i guess to be fair Legacy does use modders engine
cerulean sluice
But any ordinary Carnivores mod doesn't work.
Can't wait to be able to launch the games out of the box tbh.
craggy dawn
I really hope one of the first things that get ported to the remaster is Legacy, as that’s basically what I’d want a carnivores remake to be
sonic hollow
have y'all found the carnivorous moschops?
I haven't. imagine they add it to the base game in the remaster LOL
ember granite
Interesting, I didn't knew about this series, neither any of my friends when I a...
it’s a bit of an obscure series. not many would know about it unless they were into hunting and/or dinosaur games. it does have a VERY dedicated fanbase though which is why this has as many votes as it does
ember granite
have y'all found the carnivorous moschops?
i got body slammed by it in legacy. i felt as if I lost aura points dying to a moschops
ember granite
I'd assume Carnivores is pretty likely since I really doubt TATEM is particularl...
yeah, this is how I’m feeling in regards to the carnivores fangame that @cunning kayak and I are making on Roblox
Tatem doesn’t seem to give a shit about carnivores
the issue may be trying to put in gamepasses since that counts as profiting
Tatem is probably no means as strict as Toho when it comes to their intellectual property (Toho chopping off the heads of Roblox kaiju games) but tryna make bank off of the Carnivores IP probably wouldn’t sit well with them
unless if anything some form of partnership is formed 
viral loom
Rn my thoughts are just Fnaf 2 movie and Carnivores remaster lol
echo pewter
fredy fidlo should become a carnivores mod
limpid sentinel
carnivores sweep
versed stirrup
#CarnivoresSweep
craggy dawn
Actually if Tatem sells the IP to Nightdive, what would they even do?
echo pewter
inspirational life qoutes
viral loom
Actually if Tatem sells the IP to Nightdive, what would they even do?
Do awesome stuff probably like remasters
That's all ND ever does
worthy star
Actually if Tatem sells the IP to Nightdive, what would they even do?
Remaster cityscape and the trilogy
And if tatem “sold” the ip to ND I guess ND has a franchise to run and make games for
Maybe they take reborn into their own hands
viral loom
Make reborn better
versed stirrup
Patch reborn so it's actually balance
viral loom
Give reborn the cut sauropods maybe?
limpid sentinel
make carnivores reborn great again
plush pewter
oh real shit, i was just wondering if there was something like that in Roblox
worthy star
That's actually genius
Someone make a reborn forum
That someone will be me
Later
Tho tbh
Idk if hunts existence will affect that working out
echo pewter
yippee
worthy star
Patch reborn so it's actually balance
Reborn is my favorite version of the trilogy all because of how fucking bonkers it is
Genuinely nightmarish
but fun
In dinosaur hunt I'm not all that scared of carnivores cause the they run straight towards you and kinda predictable
Not bad tho
Its just like the originals
But in reborn if I'm not standing on top of a rock I'm scarred shitless
The way the dinosaurs behave in that game is horrifying
versed stirrup
The carnivores are so quiet like a real predator
worthy star
For me its just I don't know what the hell they will do
It could go one of many many ways
versed stirrup
Other than the broken pathfinding
the dinosaur actually behave like real animal
worthy star
That's something reborn has one up against hunt
The dinosaurs behavior are far more complex in reborn
They roar at the players
They are very vocal
echo pewter
I thought they just re-released the nearly same thing, didn't know they changed things like behavior
versed stirrup
They even stun a bit when they get hit
plush pewter
Someone make a reborn forum
i'd rather we not clog the discord with too many carnivores posts tbh
worthy star
I thought they just re-released the nearly same thing, didn't know they changed ...
They changed the engine
echo pewter
oh
worthy star
i'd rather we not clog the discord with too many carnivores posts tbh
Yea I agree
I think one we should have the trilogy and cityscape first
versed stirrup
Bro it's january and I deliver a lot of typo already
worthy star
Then after they come out
Maybe we add reborn to the list
Remember this may take years
plush pewter
just the base game honestly i don't wanna have them look too much into it
worthy star
So there may still be a tiny tiny chance for hunt to continue
plush pewter
yeah i don't wanna ask them for too much, so i'd be fine with just the first game being possibly looked into for the time being
worthy star
I still think if should all be a trilogy its definitely not hard at all
worthy star
Same engine
And also allows for planning the trilogy remaster features a little more
Such as supply ship for C1 and c2
And double ammo for c1
Fix/add some tweaks here and there
And we got games that I will be able to play for years and show my kids for the foreseeable future
viral loom
Maybe even play them with your kids if they had multiplayer?
worthy star
I know for a fact cityscape will have multplayer
So if the trilogy doesn't have it which I don't expect it to
Cityscape will at least give me what I want
plush pewter
look man i'm not trying to shoot ya down here or anything but i'd try not to get my hopes up too much on all that happening
craggy dawn
I do wonder, what WOULD improved textures for a carnivore remaster look like?
worthy star
look man i'm not trying to shoot ya down here or anything but i'd try not to get...
What happening cityscape having multiplayer or the fact a trilogy remaster would only be c1 and not even include the benefits of the other versions
plush pewter
possibly both, mods have already stated that it's not exactly a guarantee that they'll pick up on this series, just that they'll try to relay things to the team, and even if it does it would probably be a small scale project to see how well it does that way it's not a waste of time/resources that could be directed towards other projects
plush pewter
okay, it just sounded like you were saying this as if it was all a confirmed thing to be happening
worthy star
Oh yeah 100% understandable but that's how a lot of folks are talking about it in this chat
Were simply excited and thinking of the possibilitys
versed stirrup
Nick pls giv us info on hosting new cityscape server
What softwarehouse do we need
worthy star
Whats her name
@cerulean sluice what did you say we could use to run a cityscape multiplayer server in the modern age
Maybe Timmy the cityscape server idea for the video is still possible afterall
echo pewter
worthy star
viral loom
okay, it just sounded like you were saying this as if it was all a confirmed thi...
It's a very tiny confirmation according to Bundle
thorny reef
the only thing i was confirming was that i've let staff know what's been going on here
the only thing i've promised is that when my avenues of communication are flowing better, i'll make sure to reemphasize the magnitude (that's one of the big reason for vote totals, quantifiable and comparable metrics)
viral loom
Well any info is good info
thorny reef
wednesdays are when i typically update the totals, there are a lot of games that jumped up with the influx of new people (mostly dinosaur, but also kaiju and a couple of others), so that'll also be in the story
viral loom
Oks
thorny reef
sorry if my tone is off
just wanted to not let the narrative get away from the situation
cerulean sluice
wednesdays are when i typically update the totals, there are a lot of games that...
"Mostly dinosaur."
^
Speaking of which-
Vote for these, this is your somewhat daily reminder.
viral loom
I voted for them months ago iirc
viral loom
Lol
cerulean sluice
thorny reef
the only thing i was confirming was that i've let staff know what's been going o...
i should have used a "Woah, pardner" on this one, it reads way harsher than i meant
cerulean sluice
Perhaps.
cerulean sluice
I do have to say, I'm pretty proud of the waves we've made here.
If anything it's another thing that helps Nightdive out by showing the IP holders that there is a massive intereest.
cerulean sluice
Good ones specifically
True.
I mean the last half decent one we got lately is Turok 3.
And that's not even a full blown dinosaur game with all the aliens and mercs you decommission.
frigid skiff
Haven't played them but JWE is apparently pretty ok. Paleopines too
I also like PoT but thats more polarizing
Most things are just park builders or survival games at this point though
Or live service shooters that die in a month
cerulean sluice
Thisss.
viral loom
That's what makes Carnivores unique
viral loom
Interesting lore
cerulean sluice
Honestly I wouldn't mind dinosaur survival as much if it didn't force me to play six hours to get an adult animal only for it to starve because the devs want to force PVP and even getting a kill won't fix your hunger to any meaningful capacity.
As for park builders, we've had two from Jurassic Park and allegedly there's a third on the way, leaving the genre saturated even without counting the various knockoffs.
Plus all survival games suffer from this 'walking to your next meal' thing I just don't care much for. If I spent fifteen minutes on gathering materials and getting food together I expect to at least not to have to eat for the next hour of gameplay so I can at least do something productive with my character rather than chase down the next thing because I got 15% hunger bar from an entire animal.
Which is indeed where Carnivores is unique. It doesn't ham fist in any survival mechanics and doesn't turn the game into an absolute chore to play. Sure there's a grind to speak of, but progression is reasonably fast and you can definitely get up there in the points department within a reasonable timeframe.
viral loom
cerulean sluice
No clue how popular this suggestion is going to be, but what if we got a Carnivores Legacy-styled default trophy room out of the remaster?
I really love these little setpieces.
graceful ermine
would be too much of a change tbh
viral loom
If it gets mod support there's no need lol
cerulean sluice
Can't wait to see what people will come up with when it comes to mods.
viral loom
Same
I wonder if mods like Triassic would be updated by their creators to have slightly higher fidelity models and better textures
cerulean sluice
I hope Poharex updates Triassic to run with the remaster, it's one of my favourite mods.
broken sinew
she doesn't really want to do anything with it nowadays
misty nimbus
Mods are going to be peak in remaster
frank saddle
Good morning carnivoreheads
frank saddle
Im new I heard carnivores was part of the vote and I jumped in here lol
worthy star
No clue how popular this suggestion is going to be, but what if we got a Carnivo...
I agree with cactus on this that's a bit to much for me
But
Having the trophy room be like the mobile ports with all the trees and stuff
Ignore the ramp tho
timber narwhal
mobile port also has alot more trophy slots
worthy star
I don't believe this is accurate
worthy star
The original trophy room has 24 slots so does the dinosaur hunter trophy room
You may be mistaking it for the c1 trophy room
Which was slightly smaller then ice age and c2
But all in all
timber narwhal
probably
worthy star
There is no change between any of the trophy room sizes
timber narwhal
the walls are bigger though
graceful ermine
yea the mobile walls are taller
timber narwhal
and that looks pretty cool
worthy star
Are they?
graceful ermine
which would be a shame if the same was applied to the remaster because it would make for a fun secret achievement getting out
worthy star
True
timber narwhal
which would be a shame if the same was applied to the remaster because it would ...
so true
achievements are a must imo
worthy star
Maybe in debug mode which I must emphasize should not be skipped out on the remaster
timber narwhal
no
there should be a normal way to get out
and it could have an easter egg or a secret
graceful ermine
pretty sure they'd ensure enabling cheats would disable achievements
worthy star
I'm sure they could make a few cheat-exclusive achievements
timber narwhal
maybe
worthy star
Nothing stopping it really
worthy star
Guess we're stuck hoping that Triassic Redux makes it then.
Knowing this community Triassic will be on the steam workshop like its nothing
I wonder if any Jurassic park mods will make the jump
I know tormer has been working on jw dino trackers
versed stirrup
Gonna corrupt reborn on camera
versed stirrup
wanna
frigid skiff
Mods are going to be peak in remaster <:cacopog:687028406348808236>
I hope it will allow for mods to do more
cerulean sluice
Same tbh.
viral loom
how would these feet look on slightly higher fidelity models in a ND remaster? just curious
viral loom
curiosty
granite edge
You can already make much more detailed feet even with the current in-game limitations
viral loom
wouldn't you wonder how they would look better and less triangular?
viral loom
You can already make much more detailed feet even with the current in-game limit...
is this from the new goji model?
cerulean sluice
how would these feet look on slightly higher fidelity models in a ND remaster? j...
Low-Poly Peets!
cerulean sluice
You can already make much more detailed feet even with the current in-game limit...
These make sense for the remaster, yeah.
cerulean sluice
Honestly if the 'saurs look like this in the remaster I won't be too miffed if we can switch back to OG models and graphics.
granite edge
I'm gonna be real with you I don't think my style fits too well
worthy star
Yes juxt upon the older creatures your creatures do not fit
But
That doesn't mean they aren't quality
cerulean sluice
I love them.
viral loom
too much detail for a remaster but i think it would look close but not too much
cerulean sluice
I just don't think the detailing works for a Carnivores remaster because ti's too detailed.
cerulean sluice
It's the model detail to me tbh. Classic Carnivores dinosaurs just look a lot less detailed. But they're absolutely lovely.
granite edge
These also adhear to the 1024 triangle limit
cerulean sluice
Theoretically the remaster could fix that.
I just don't know how practical it would be.
granite edge
Modders edition can handle more than 1024
Although we are limited to 2048 by the other tools
cerulean sluice
This is why I think a new set of modding tools might work better in the future.
viral loom
would carni teeth be 3D in a remaster or still the transparent texture planes?
cerulean sluice
Depends on the tri limit.
cerulean sluice
Oh interesting.
viral loom
i'll have to look at that model again, i just know they made the feet more animatedable
granite edge
Honestly whether they'd be billboards or 3D is up to whoever makes the models
viral loom
tbh i would love the eyes on dinos that have more 3D ones like rex and cerato should be a tiny bit more round
granite edge
i'll have to look at that model again, i just know they made the feet more anima...
The original carnivores teeth are very meh tbh
granite edge
If you want to die then yea
cerulean sluice
LMAO I would not be able to keep a straight face.
Might just get eaten while I'm lauging my arse off.
viral loom
just big birdy
cerulean sluice
Silly birb.
viral loom
LMAO I would not be able to keep a straight face.
at what?
cerulean sluice
The dino.
granite edge
Still looking silly?
viral loom
imagine a photo mode where you could take pose photos with the body
granite edge
Would really love to have eyes that glow under night vision
viral loom
that would be horrifying
imagine without nightvision it was really dark and you could only see 2 shining eyes running at you
granite edge
Flashlight is a must
It's actually something that has already been implemented via reshade
viral loom
maybe a gun attachment
cursive kelp
You fellas think they'll port the game to a different engine to make better compatibility?
granite edge
I'm not sure how that would be done
cursive kelp
So like, the game can run properly in modern OS without that awful soujds of hell if you alt tab
granite edge
That'd essentially mean redoing the entire game
cursive kelp
I see
viral loom
You fellas think they'll port the game to a different engine to make better comp...
kex engine
ND always uses KEX as far as i know
cursive kelp
Oh
granite edge
I'm not sure how kex works
frigid skiff
I'm gonna be real with you I don't think my style fits too well
I really like the models
worthy star
viral loom
Postal Dude if he was in Carnivores
indigo geyser
Hella late to the discussion but
Tbf i feel like the Carnivores models would benefit from a higher doze of remasterazation
unborn dagger
also the game needs a whole expansion in the latter, maybe some transport and bigger maps
would make more potential for a more active hunting game
indigo geyser
As a Carnivores modder myself
This would give them a fair chunk of work to do
Like not a chunck
A lot maybe
unborn dagger
i mean, it is for the best ig
indigo geyser
The maps in these games need a lot of attention
indigo geyser
At least with the tech we use to mod it
indigo geyser
i mean, it is for the best ig
Fair
unborn dagger
currently the only expanded stuff we got for Carnivores are Legacy and MEE
so like, it’d benefit for much more stuff in it
there should be base game hostile fliers and aquatic hunting
easier to then mod aquatics or fliers
the AI itself should have more functionality and life tbf too
add in interactions between animals, expanded movement
stuff like that
it’d be a ton to work on, but, if it means for the game to be big again, it’s definitely worth it
then again, just depends on the devs’ decisions
viral loom
its also a remaster
a remaster shouldn't have so many changes
just mostly some better stuff and better mod support
viral loom
i'm fine with slightly better models and higher quality textures like NightDive's other remasters, i just don't think there should be more base game ambients because that would change it too much, mods can do that easily
cerulean sluice
While I agree, the engine should definitely be massively overhauled to at least support more AI etc.
This is where using MEE as a base would come in.
craggy dawn
how would these feet look on slightly higher fidelity models in a ND remaster? j...
I’m sorry for this
craggy dawn
Are the carnivores dinosaurs even related to birds, afaik, they just resemble earth stuff
craggy dawn
Again, it could just be a resemblance like the other animals
karmic token
Do we know if FMM UV-32 animals evolved naturally? Perhaps they were taken from Earth and used for terraforming by some ancient spacefaring civilization
viral loom
what if the Carnivores rex actually looked like this more amphibian-like early design of the rex for the first JP film?
viral loom
who here knows the original guy who made this sculpture?
nvm someone on another server told me
it's a beautiful model
ember granite
nostalgia
celest nymph
Do we know if FMM UV-32 animals evolved naturally? Perhaps they were taken from ...
Thank you for describing the perfect plot device for a version of Carnivores with fully accurate designs
viral loom
i was mostly fixated on this giga atm because i was looking at carnivores images for art references and this came up
granite edge
I'm pretty sure that giga holds the record for amount of people that've worked on a single carnivores animal
viral loom
wym
serene flame
1 carnillion people worked on it
viral loom
dam
craggy dawn
Do we know if FMM UV-32 animals evolved naturally? Perhaps they were taken from ...
I mean, it doesn’t imply that anywhere, so I’d say they did evolve naturally
ember granite
Do we know if FMM UV-32 animals evolved naturally? Perhaps they were taken from ...
they’re clones of the ancients essentially
even though some species evolved differently
which is I GUESS the lore explanation to why cityscape’s dinosaurs don’t look like the other games’ dinosaurs
ember granite
which is I *GUESS* the lore explanation to why cityscape’s dinosaurs don’t look ...
the real explanation is because Todd Marshall’s design style had a bit of flamboyance, mixed with spikes and accurate dinosaurs for the early 2000’s
misty nimbus
Carnivores
ember granite
Carnivores
ye
graceful lance
i was mostly fixated on this giga atm because i was looking at carnivores images...
Probably one of the best modded creatures
ember granite
Probably one of the best modded creatures
based doom slayer pfp
viral loom
they’re clones of the ancients essentially
Where's the official canon for that?
ember granite
Where's the official canon for that?
idk if it’s ever been officially confirmed but afaik it’s been the consensus for the origin of the dinosaurs on FMM UV-32
that they’re clones of the ancients and that’s why they look like old paleoart
viral loom
Uh huh
craggy dawn
One more thing, here’s an interesting crossover question, could the V. Rex survive on FMM UV-32?
viral loom
That depends
Is it inbred or not
Because the V-Rex's in the film are all inbred iirc
cerulean sluice
Yep they were indeed inbred as all hell.
obsidian iris
Island populations eventually succumb to inbreeding if their numbers dwindle enough
PJ wanted Skull Island to be a believable ecosystem
viral loom
I mean
This is also the same guy behind Frightners, Brain Dead, and Bad Taste
So why not
And Brain Dead starts on skull Island
cerulean sluice
The reason as to why they were inbred is because the island was falling apart.
There weren't enough V. rexes to sustain a viable, untainted population.
Even when the Venture arrived on Skull Island, it was only a fraction of its original size.
viral loom
What's the reason for it becoming shite?
cerulean sluice
Unfortunate positioning on the division of two tectonic plates.
Leftmost is the original island, rightmost is what the Venture found.
viral loom
Huh
cerulean sluice
It only lasted for fifteen years after the discovery by the West.
viral loom
Also I can see the upside down skull now
In monsterverse it's more obvious
So basically everything on skull Island drowned?
Except for the aquatics
cerulean sluice
The aquatics died because they either couldn't tolerate seawater, or the cold.
viral loom
Feck
cerulean sluice
I'm pretty sure a lot of the animals starved before they drowned because their habitats broke down and left insufficient food for them.
I'm thinking of doing a Call of Cthulhu campaign set during Project Legacy.
viral loom
cerulean sluice
That totally won't go horribly wrong for all parties involved.
viral loom
And Carl's film got destroyed right?
cerulean sluice
If I'm not mistaken it did.
cerulean sluice
Yeps.
viral loom
upbeat hearth
You guys want to see good analog dinosaur horror? Make "the carl denham tapes" based on Carls skull Island footages he takes during the movie.
Im surprised no one made this before
cerulean sluice
I'll check that one out, deff.
upbeat hearth
No one made this yet
Is Just a idea
My idea
Actually no
Let me make this instead
cerulean sluice
They are inbred, it's canonically confirmed they are.
craggy dawn
I thought you meant is the one we’re putting in the FMM UV inbred
cerulean sluice
Ah that'd depend on which ones there are available.
thorny reef
alright, sat down after completing life tasks, time to tally up some votes
cerulean sluice
Noice.
worthy star
You know what I say
I would kinda enjoy seeing this being brought over to pc
Its probably the worst best dinosaur game I have ever seen
cerulean sluice
Isn't that the soldiers and dinosaurs one?
worthy star
Bro this spino would fucking pick the bones out of its teeth after eating the jp3 spino
craggy dawn
I meant in terms of impact
viral loom
I meant in terms of impact
Ah, old YouTube videos of GTA:SA with jpog dinosaur mods, a spanish text-to-speech voice over, and Spike the spinosaurus as it's thumbnail
craggy dawn
How big even is Spike
viral loom
15.2 meters in height and 52.8 meters in length
worn kindle
https://www.gog.com/dreamlist/game/carnivores-1998 hmm that link didn't work
graceful ermine
yea the problem is the implications that gog will only offer the game with minor patches but considering the game and it's modding tools are already fragile in a state when it comes to win10/11, it only continues the situation for the modding scene is already in with our tools being deprecated by microsoft and a game that's hardly functional.
not to mention a remaster can offer more for the modding scene by skipping a few steps like the more fancier lighting systems so our modding programmers aren't needing to bang rocks together trying to get it working for ages while still trying to figure out issues.
(like the 5 minute crash bug)
viral loom
Remasters are always better than ports
graceful ermine
i mean ports are nice for those who want the absolute of game preservation but unfortunatly carnivores internally has so many battles to fight, not to mention that most people would prefer just finding the og games out in the wild internet distributed for free if the games were released and nothing was effectively changed
peeps already complain about the 4:3 ratio
viral loom
Plus a remaster could have lots of graphics settings too
Like old and new graphics sort of
cerulean sluice
Getting it via GOG means no Steam, means no Workshop, means no wide audience appeal. Every PC gamer I know has a Steam account and three of them or so have a GOG account.
graceful ermine
i mean in fairness at least gog you own the game with no strings attached. no workshop would be fine because we already have the means of other mod hosting sites like moddb and nexus. but yea that reach being hindered can be an issue
cerulean sluice
No you don't.
GOG's games are license based as well, all games, even physical media are license based.
graceful ermine
i mean in the sense you don't need to launch the launcher in order to play the game
cerulean sluice
The license distributor can at all times, for any legally binding reason revoke your license and order you to return or destroy your copy of the game. Even in the case of physical media.
Legally binding reasons mainly being piracy, unauthorised modification or distribution etc etc.
cerulean sluice
i mean in fairness at least gog you *own* the game with no strings attached. no ...
A release from Nightdive has always included a release on Steam and GOG if I'm remembering it right. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong Bundle.
worthy star
Oh the irony of gog having dino crisis and it not being on steam despite the fact you can purchase the ost of both games on steam but not the actual game
cerulean sluice
Save for Wheel of Time.
But IIRC Wheel of Time was jointly done so I suppose GOG had a bit more work done on it.
cerulean sluice
i mean in the sense you don't need to launch the launcher in order to play the g...
Oh yeah to come back to this, you can do this with most Steam games too.
If you're willing to do some stuff that I won't specify here.
graceful ermine
and that's the deal breaker. needing to do extra stuff that clearly can't be spoken in this setting
worthy star
Most steam games I believe are drm free nowadays
cerulean sluice
They're basically DRM free so long as people don't put Denuvo or some other garbage into it.
The API does interact with the game on first boot and it does interact with the game for the overlay, but all that crap can be disabled in one way or another.
Some in Steam's settings, others in different ways.
In the devkit you can change this callback to the API at certain intervals, but I've yet to have a problem with that.
If anything, Steam's good at making you forget it's DRM rather than just a central access point for all your games.
graceful ermine
one layer of drm is fine i guess but then you have situations like ea and ubisoft where it's drm ontop of drm
cerulean sluice
I mean, yeah Ubisoft can really fuck right off with their garbage.
Thing's a resource hog, logs me out every other Tuesday, actively interferes with the Steam overlay, and it just bugs the game out from time to time.
Fucked my Freedom's Cry saves and EA's Origin screwed my Mass Effect Collection so bad that I couldn't even boot ME1 without nuking my cloud saves LMAO.
viral loom
cerulean sluice
It's like I said before, I'm not loyal to Steam, I'm loyal to the fact that they've yet to majorly inconvenience me across the decade plus that I have my Steam account.
It's amazing that all these gaming corps spend so much time spying on each other and still bring out a piece of shit like the (not so)Epic game store and Ubisoft Connect of all things.
graceful ermine
there's also the case of functionality based between steam and gog for certain games.
for example fallout 3 and call of cthulhu dark corners of the earth have been basically non-functional on steam but work completely fine on their gog releases
cerulean sluice
That's because Steam leaves it up to developers to update their games and honestly at this point it's a strategic move.
If they started doing anything overtly consumer friendly or outreach based there's 4 companies knocking on the FTC's door with an antitrust lawsuit.
Two of them have tried before.
craggy dawn
15.2 meters in height and 52.8 meters in length
So basically like Godzilla Minus one sized before he mutated
cerulean sluice
Valve is the company that doesn't interrupt their enemies when they make a mistake. They do nothing and keep winning.
viral loom
I find it kinda funny how this became the convo when we were just talking about how a straight up port could break carnivores more than fix it while a remaster would fix it more
graceful lance
As long as it has everything from C1, C2, IA and its ports (mobile content and the psp laser rifle) in one complete package, I’ll be happy
cerulean sluice
I find it kinda funny how this became the convo when we were just talking about ...
A remaster would just be better plain out. It'd allow Nightdive and the modders to put their heads together to see what is needed to fix these games up and make the modding tools as good as they can be. We're talking about people who easily have several years to a decade of experience in modding Carnivores, who know these engines very well. I'd say that at this point some people in particular might know it better than the original developers. This is especially true for Carnivores 2 since the Modder's Edition is based off its engine.
No more tinkering around with the files of the games to even get them running, never mind some of the stupidly unstable/unoptimised mods that have to interact with an engine kept together by chewed-out bubblegum and dirty ducttape. Just click play and you're on FMM UV-32 gunning down alien reptiles. The Steam Workshop and Modb can coexist without a problem, growing our community as far as it can get is bound to bring us into a new golden age of Carnivores. L4D2 and Skyrim both have mods on the Workshop and on Nexus/Modb with very active and thriving communities and I fail to see how this can in any way be different with Carnivores. The main advantage the Workshop does offer is that repeat installations have all your modded content pre-installed unless you unsubscribe from the mods. Another rather useful thing because if your game refuses to launch all you need to do is untick the last mod you've installed and see if that fixes it.
I still think it's kinda crazy how Modder's Edition is the most 'fuck it, I'll do it myself' project I've heard of.
viral loom
Well yeh the Carnivores Modding community and NightDive would definitely have to work together in order to do the remaster
graceful lance
Carnivores fans got tired of official dev neglect and decided to one up the official games. That in summation is the history of Carnivores Modding.
cerulean sluice
Pretty much.
viral loom
Well yeh the Carnivores Modding community and NightDive would definitely have to...
Plus I would love to see how they can work together on the remastered trilogy
cursive kelp
This is the only time I'll agree with the "hire fans" statement ngl
cerulean sluice
Halo was a good example how that could work out.
cursive kelp
I didn't play Halo tho 😔
cerulean sluice
The Halo Digsite team were a bunch of Halo modders and fans who were restoring old, lost, and cut content.
cursive kelp
oh
cerulean sluice
They did a lot of exciting things, but Microsoft was itself and couldn't let a good thing be a good thing.
Microsoft is like the opposite of Valve. They do everything, and keep taking fat Ls.
Except for when it comes to doing stuff that's good for their in house brands or flagship titles.
The Secret Level controversy is yet another one of those.
graceful lance
Y'all think we could pass 600 votes?
cerulean sluice
Possibly.
viral loom
Maybe
graceful lance
Does nightdive usually add new content to their published games?
And if so, what creatures would you like to see added?
cerulean sluice
Sometimes cut content makes it in yeah.
I'm hoping for the Poacher tbh.
Poacher and mortal zones across all games.
viral loom
Does nightdive usually add new content to their published games?
Well the turok games have a map and turok 2 iirc had markers
graceful lance
If that's the case they need to add in the dilo. They'll need to make sounds for it but it can be doable. Unfortunately it won't be the case for the megatherium.
graceful lance
graceful lance
I don't know if megatherium was ever originally planned
There was a UV file for it in the Ice Age mobile port.
graceful lance
True, granted the mobile ports made some improvements to their predecessors that should be in the remaster (survival mode, graphics, new yeti calls, etc)
worthy star
I'd be fine with some of the mobile port content being part of the remaster but I hope the new dinosaurs stay out of it
graceful ermine
which is quintessentially the mobile port content
polar birch
Holy crappola, this game (series) has a lot of votes all of a sudden
worthy star
Some mobile port stuff I'd be fine with is the updated trophy room survival room some graphic improvements and that's about it
Indeed
ember granite
Holy crappola, this game (series) has a lot of votes all of a sudden
the power of a dedicated fanbase
worthy star
We as a community went together as a group to get this up
polar birch
Thats the power of dinosaurs
graceful ermine
and us being desperate because windows is killing the game and mod tools
worthy star
Yes other dinosaur stuff Also got booster up by a lot as well
worthy star
and us being desperate because windows is killing the game and mod tools
Desperate isn't the word I would use
polar birch
With all the games we want/demand, nightdive has a lot of work cut out for em 
worthy star
True that
graceful lance
Desperate isn't the word I would use
TBF the fanbase is kinda desperate for a good remaster/port since the devs abandoned it
plush pewter
they could literally just port them to modern Kex engine and have it set to where mods are compatible with it and we're golden
prisma oyster
and us being desperate because windows is killing the game and mod tools
There are emulators
versed stirrup
That never work
cunning kayak
versed stirrup
primal dove
anything coolio happen
versed stirrup
Noe
echo pewter
cute dog
versed stirrup
It's all coming together
echo pewter
another cute dog
cunning kayak
It's all coming together
worthy star
TBF the fanbase is kinda desperate for a good remaster/port since the devs aband...
The reboots I saw as people practically giving up
And before the announcement people who I was trying to chat with to vote were very much not all that interested
Because why vote for something that's not gonna happen or why vote for something that is gonna be abandoned
I see it as the community giving it one last chance cause they don't have much to lose
Rather then desperation
plush pewter
honestly all it really needs is just a modern hardware port to an actual good engine and mods can thrive as usual
viral loom
My brain when carnivores remaster
cerulean sluice
Same.
unborn dagger
they better remodel the huntables
well
mostly ones with poster art
so its not too misleading
i need jp raptor and carcharodontosaurid t-rex
viral loom
I don't really think that would work much
We don't want the raptors to look like the lost world ones
Because the C2 boxart is based on those designs
Plus they're ALIENS
Plus it's a remaster so the models should only be upscaled slightly with better quality textures like NightDive's other remasters
And plus mod support would be a thing
unborn dagger
Plus they're ALIENS
and jp raptors aren’t alien enough
with the complete lack of any bird-like features like modern representations
and looking fully scaley and reptilian
viral loom
Well jp raptors were still considered kinda accurate by the release of C1/C2
unborn dagger
meh
they still need a remodel
same for the tyrannosaurus
especially the tyrannosaurus
going for it’s poster artwork design would work out better for an alien-like look
everything else is fine tho
except ofc textures
viral loom
well something like this fanart by GMRthehunter on twitter
unborn dagger
well something like this fanart by GMRthehunter on twitter
yeah
js mix up the poster art and base game design
viral loom
gives me James Gurney vibes
viral loom
maybe boxart rex but with the og colours?
graceful ermine
that’s just high poly, detailed base rex.
probably the upmost faithful for the remaster then
unborn dagger
meh
i don’t like the whole upscaling texture thing as the only thing that modernizes the huntables
some creatures should have a remodel
graceful ermine
probably the upmost faithful for the remaster then
considering it seems the major consensus is to be faithful to the original designs. of which duane's aren't really
unborn dagger
or just model edit that changes a few feathres
unborn dagger
considering it seems the major consensus is to be faithful to the original desig...
so it’s better to have a misleading poster that hypes up new fans into thinking they’re gonna hunt a giga-like t rex
only for them to experience a rather bland alien tyrannosaurus
nothing like the people expected
viral loom
I'm pretty Sure Duane was commissioned before the final in-game designs
graceful ermine
it was already the case in the original. not to mention that again, the major consensus is to be faithful to the already established designs.
if we do go with duane's design then we also risk the raptors just being jurassic park raptors
unborn dagger
still, i feel like the poster design would be a better portrayal for the revamp
unborn dagger
it was already the case in the original. not to mention that again, the major co...
atleast the raptors ingame have the TLW raptor pattern like the poster art
unborn dagger
well something like this fanart by GMRthehunter on twitter
and if anything, GMR’s art can be referenced for a design mix of the 2
it’s the poster design and ingame design for the rex that is a bigger problem compared to the velociraptor, atleast you can recognize the jp raptor in it
viral loom
it was already the case in the original. not to mention that again, the major co...
Plus NightDive never changes designs too much
viral loom
With slight higher fidelity models because that's what NightDive always does
unborn dagger
then what’s the hype except becoming up-to-date with modern systems and have expanded mod support
viral loom
then what’s the hype except becoming up-to-date with modern systems and have exp...
Everyone will get to play it without having to play the ones that barely work on modern systems
unborn dagger
you can literally just download the classic games, switch the compatibility to Windows 90 and play
and this is on modern pcs, not old windows or others
then again, it is limited with modding
graceful ermine
you can literally just download the classic games, switch the compatibility to W...
that's not as effective anymore thanks to win11
viral loom
I'd rather play remasters than broken ports
unborn dagger
that's not as effective anymore thanks to win11
that’s weird, i never saw anyone having issues with win11
i mean, i have 0 issues with it affecting the original games compatibility editing
graceful ermine
any view of the community server says otherwise whenever people come in for troubleshooting
viral loom
And I don't want to change anything in my PC's hardware or software otherwise I might break something
graceful ermine
there's also the modding tools at risk too. i'm on win10 and the mapping tool refuses to work at some point between when i got the pc and now
unborn dagger
even with the porting to modern win11 and further, i still don’t see anything exciting abt the content ingame itself
js a bit higher poly models with enhanced textures
viral loom
We're just arguing about a game when we don't know what changes NightDive will/would add lol
unborn dagger
you just said they usually only overhaul textures and upscale model quality
viral loom
They add other stuff
unborn dagger
what stuff
graceful ermine
if there's stuff to add
cerulean sluice
I love how this unproductive garbage keeps coming back, lol. Why even come here and be negative about it when you can just not?
unborn dagger
I’m only negative about the fact we aren’t getting any bigger model improvements except upscaling their base mesh and textures
viral loom
I love how this unproductive garbage keeps coming back, lol. Why even come here ...
We're here to be positive about a possible remaster by one of the best video game companies 
unborn dagger
it’s cool that the improved games will likely have way better mod support
graceful ermine
I love how this unproductive garbage keeps coming back, lol. Why even come here ...
the narrowminded takes are far more dangerous to the game's community and longevity for sure
unborn dagger
which is probably the only thing that kept carnivores popular this entire time
cerulean sluice
I mean honestly that and getting things working again is all we'll need out of the experience.
Everything else is being built by the community.
Like, Carnivores still exists because of the community. Tatem, Digital Dreams, and Action forms have done just about fuck all of note or particular interest with Carnivores.
The best thing they can do is let it go for Nightdive to restore and the community to expand.
viral loom
Mhms
cerulean sluice
We just need a good, solid base for mods and an experience that works without having to jump through hoops all the time.
I'm not against graphical improvements if they're optional like QUAKE's.
unborn dagger
As much as community support has always been the thing to keep Carnivores running in popularity and not being left as some ‘lost media’, the base game would still benefit with some bigger model changes, maybe reanimations atleast, improved guns and improved maps
graceful ermine
i also suggest miloou that you watch this to get an idea of what nightdive can do comparatively between the original and their latest remaster release
cerulean sluice
^ This.
unborn dagger
mk
cerulean sluice
Also;
viral loom
I'm fine with newer animations, maybe more kill animations for the rex because it doesn't make sense for it to fling you around constantly lol
cerulean sluice
As much as community support has always been the thing to keep Carnivores runnin...
The issue with doing too many model upgrades is that it might screw up the hitboxes of the animals.
unborn dagger
The issue with doing too many model upgrades is that it might screw up the hitbo...
ehh
cerulean sluice
While yes this can be remediated, I don't want to be aiming at what I think is a lethal zone only for the actual game's calculations to read my shots as a miss.
unborn dagger
i don’t know how it’s gonna work out for the remaster
but current Carnivores has the hitbox thing sort of easy to do
you select a specific area on the model in, i suppose, CMM, and mark it as the lethal / weak spot for the animal
cerulean sluice
There's a large market for retro gaming, so the graphics won't scare anyone off besides the graphics bros who think anything without RTX 9000 in 200 million K and ultrarealistic blade by blade grass rendering looks like a PS2 game.
unborn dagger
There's a large market for retro gaming, so the graphics won't scare anyone off ...
Yeah a hyperdetailed remaster would ruin it entirely and make it almost impossible for even current pcs to run properly
viral loom
Best thing about remasters is it introduces me to games I never played before
Like when aspyr remastered Soul Reaver 1 and 2
I never had an interest in Legacy of Kain stuff before that
unborn dagger
The remaster would only require js some ‘basic’ but better shading system for the game so things like shadows are done better and more visible
cerulean sluice
Storage space is another consideration, I don't want to lose 30 gibs of space like the Battlefront Collection hogs up (previously upwards of 60GB).
unborn dagger
in the classic games, even if you run the engine on the Glide system, the shadows will still not be that defined, or pretty much the full lighting
so the remasters definitely need an improved shading system that just makes the lightning more effective and not make the game look unrendered
js not an overly exaggerated shading system that will consume your PC RAM
unborn dagger
Storage space is another consideration, I don't want to lose 30 gibs of space li...
I mean.. tbf Battlefront is fairly different compared to Carnivores, there’s more content there
viral loom
Yeah better shading would be nice because with the old shadows on dinos would show like weird bends and holes through the polygons
unborn dagger
fair enough
cerulean sluice
The games combined are like 15 gibs.
unborn dagger
shouldn’t games like classic battlefront only be up to like 5-7 GB or smt
cerulean sluice
How do minor texture upgrades amount to nearly double that.
unborn dagger
Yeah better shading would be nice because with the old shadows on dinos would sh...
We don’t talk about software mode
viral loom
viral loom
How do minor texture upgrades amount to nearly double that.
Garten of banban moment
unborn dagger
Oh yeah, one issue i found to be… sort of annoying in the original games
viral loom
With the very unoptimised models
unborn dagger
even if you switch the video setting to the best one
the terrain.. deforms
idk what causes this at all, but it’s weird just walking around the map and seeing the terrain deform before you
i do hope the remasters prevent this from happening
graceful ermine
idk what causes this at all, but it’s weird just walking around the map and seei...
old renderers not working properly with modern tech
the remaster would obviously fix this
unborn dagger
With the very unoptimised models
don’t the models have like 20k polygons or some shit
unborn dagger
game’s heavier than Ark
🙏
Ark Survival Evolved can’t compare to the sheer power of Garten of Banban model quality
anyways
i watched the Thing remaster video
and i noticed that the models seem to have some sort of edits done, not js texture
viral loom
Mhms
unborn dagger
it’s as if they gave the human models actual eyes and not js textured ones
and the parasite itself seems to have been changed too model wise
in some way
viral loom
In the original version iirc the eyes quickly switch between a closed and open texture when blinking
unborn dagger
ye
while in the remaster they seem to have actual eyelids
and the eyes move
kind of feels the same as the HL1 remake, Black Mesa
viral loom
Mhms
unborn dagger
tho i suppose it’s easier to make model edits in there
compared to the animals in Carnivores
cause like, i feel like the animals could benefit in expanded features such as 3d teeth, actual rigged eyes
but ig the hitbox problem comes in mind
viral loom
cause like, i feel like the animals could benefit in expanded features such as 3...
I wouldn't mind 3d teeth
I mean we have mods that have 3d teeth
unborn dagger
I wouldn't mind 3d teeth
it would make the models look better in a way
viral loom
Mhms
unborn dagger
even tho it’s not a huge change
as much as i wish for actual full model redesigns, remaking them would take a while
viral loom
Yeh
unborn dagger
but model edits on the original models, adding proper eyes, 3d teeth and js improving the mesh quality itself + upscaled and more detailed textures would benefit better
even if this isn’t fully done tho
considering they’ll likely expand the amount of tris for models and whatnot
modders will just make detailed stuff on their own
upbeat hearth
Perhaps we are not getting 600 votes but I think 550 is good enough
cerulean sluice
I think Nightdive's remastering efforts should mainly be on the functional/technical front, ie: making good mod tools, restoring cut content, MEE feature integration (aquatic AI, unlimited AI slots, mortal zones, more weaon/item slots etc), updating the visuals slightly, ensuring the games run smoothly, integrating mods via Workshop external means for other consoles/PC platforms etc. Everything else such as animal lineups, weapons and tools, as well as the various extra tidbits we might want can be handled by the community. Having a good base experience will undoubtedly help grow our community through appealing to external individuals, but to me and many others in the community nowadays, the main draw of Carnivores is its modding scene and the virtually infinite flow of content that comes from it.
frigid skiff
Resolving some of the limitation like creature slots would defenitely be nice
viral loom
Definitely
cerulean sluice
That's among the MEE features, yes.
unborn dagger
I think Nightdive's remastering efforts should mainly be on the functional/techn...
cut content, huh
not sure if this could work but
i imagine Nightdive adding Seismosaurus and probably that RPG off C1
or perhaps the supposed cut baryonix off C1 too
although these are pretty much not even actual things but ‘myths’
adding them would be kind of good for the cut content thing
viral loom
adding them would be kind of good for the cut content thing
Maybe like a rare easter egg?
versed stirrup
The only cut content I know are grenade launcher and poacher ai
viral loom
Rocket launcher
unborn dagger
Maybe like a rare easter egg?
idk tbh
if they want to have an easter egg, it’s best to js keep the vanilla stuff than adding anything
unless….
ghoul
since it’s the most popular myth of Carnivores ig, adding it as a basegame secret creature would be fun
tawny mulch
I think Ravaren’s Bridge to Carnivores 2, I don’t care that it’s accurate I just think it looks cool that way!
desert nova
broken sinew
craggy dawn
I do wonder what would enhanced textured and models for carnivores even look like
cerulean sluice
Carnivores but shinier.
plush pewter
I do wonder what would enhanced textured and models for carnivores even look lik...
Vanilla stylized enhancements
possibly even bringing polygonal teeth instead of transparent textures of them
worthy star
I do wonder what would enhanced textured and models for carnivores even look lik...
Something like this maybe
Here they are in game
craggy dawn
Oh that’s peak
That’s actually peak
Makes it seem less like a 26 year old game and more like a deliberate style choice
ember granite
Here they are in game
the primal prey style trophy room is so neat
vague jackal
Shout out to <@1225154580510281890> for being number ***550!***
I really didn't expect this
vague jackal
I do wonder what would enhanced textured and models for carnivores even look lik...
I think that the overall model shapes should remain the same, only changing the textures to be less pixelated
orchid night
fkc the carnivores saga
unborn dagger
fkc the carnivores saga
cerulean sluice
That sounds personal.
granite edge
That's the name of our community my guy
craggy dawn
Crucify him
worthy star
frigid skiff
viral loom
Lol
craggy dawn
Something like this maybe
Gotta say also, makes the animals feel a lot more..alive, like the eyes now have soul in them
versed stirrup
Pov: their eye have soul
worthy star
viral loom
Lol