#Carnivores (Series)
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I know someone is trying to be the 400th guy
Shhh
So it was you
No
Never played the game but I gave Metal Arms a vote
You Crazy no of course no
Legorocket
I’ve already voted here
If you can I recommend post a message link in the saga community announcement for vivisector for ease to find
Cecom started their villain arc lol
Can you send the message again here?
3 votes
it's 2 votes for me
wait, the hunter model has teeth?
I sent it in carnivores general
iirc there were never animations for the mouth in the games
RIP 4K Allosaurus
FOR THE ANCIENTS
I'm waiting rn listening to my carnivores tunes
Yes..
for when they're singing it should've been the C1 ancient temple ambience
The rest of this server looking at this chat like:
Listen to your fellow community member...
1 more vote
GO CECOM GO!
ONE MORE
GO, GET IT!
for me it happened
GET IT NOW!
YOOOOOO!
DID
400 votes speech
Shout out to @upbeat hearth for being vote number 400!
YES YES
were back
Pfft.
Yay!
No
O
were not back
COME ON
LMAO
Doesn't matter, don't care, Cecom was number 400. Unvoting doesn't get you the shout out whomever's doing that.
Schrodinger's Carnivores Port tally
a second time.
sorry guys, nightdive remake is canceled now
lol
nuh uh
yuh huh
this is what heart palpitations feels like
400!
400!!!!!
Carnivores will be the greatest game or 2025
If there's one thing that can be said about Carnivores and its community it is that we're all rabid as all hell when it comes to just about anything pertaining to Carnivores.
fun fact. if you scroll down to the bottom of the reactions list on the main post you'll see who's doing it
John Carnivores i bet
We are quite literally puting all eggs in one basket with this one
I guess those guys should remove their reactions for good so they don't get caught
we're hungry for tyrannosaur meat
i imagine from here on out it will be diminishing returns, unless i wake up and its at 500 or smth because theres an uncontacted Carnivores enclave someone posted to
Reddit has been reached out to, it's taking off on Carnivores YouTube.
Night dive will finally give us the remasters cityscape and the long awaited herbivores
The server has largely voted.
Dont know if this is a stupid question or not but does a game need a specific number of votes to get chosen or something
i dont believe so
No
I'll explain how this works.
just alot in general
iirc
its to gauge community interest not guarantee what's next
So, Nightdive will pretty much take any IP they can get.
Games with 16 votes have as much of a chance as games that have 401 votes. What it really boils down to is how willing the license holders are to work with Nightdive to get the games worked on and re-released. The votes do help however in showing that there is at the very least community interest. On paper, 16 vs 401 votes does matter because then the license holders can see that there's an entire community coming to the Nightdive server specifically to vote for the game.
So even this many votes doesn't guarantee anything if the license holders of the game decide not to cooperate with Nightdive for whatever reason. But nevertheless it's strongly encouraged to vote for ANY game you'd like to see remastered because the more votes it has, the more likely some higher ups at companies holding publishing rights are to see the project as a viable commercial option.
Hooray everyone!
True true
Who hold the license for cityscape and primal prey?
ahh i see, thank you for the information!
If you want more dino games vote for these here too.
Some of these are more possible than others from a practical point of view.
Most specifically Dino Crisis may not take Nightdive a lot of effort since some devs at GOG managed to get their hands on the classic Resident Evil games, and this does open doors for other Capcom titles being remastered.
Turok Evolution I like the odds of as well because the first three Turok games have been remastered by Nightdive before.
JPOG, King Kong, and Trespasser are ones I'm not sure of, but King Kong has been on my radar for a while and I'm sure that Ubisoft is gonna want to play ball with the position they're in now. It'd really come down to the film licensing for that one.
Thats im quite sure
Yeah Evolution seems like a no brainer to just about anyone in the ND community.
Trespasser tho
Even Turok 2008 I'm carefully optimistic on.
That im not sure
Trespasser is something that I'd love to see, but I'm really not holding my breath for it.
It's a bit of a black sheep of the classic JP games and I can deff imagine people refusing Nightdive the opportunity due to the various painful memories that one left behind.
Given to the recent release of Jurassic related stuff
Not sure If universal is going to set the Green card for this title
We do know they have the source code, nightdive people
Yeah, King Kong was featured on a showcase IIRC.
But what that means, we can't be sure of until there's an announcement.
All I can say is vote.
Ye king Kong would be awesome for sure
But then we need to get the 2005 PC version and not the special console edition.
Because that one is at least stable lol.
We kinda have a "remastered" version, the gamer edition
Altho has alot of bugs
It was bad.
Really bad.
I have the physical disc so if Nightdive needs a hard copy, I'm willing to provide.
Of the PC version
The console one got lost or I sold again at some point, no clue what happened to it, but good riddance anyway.
If they only had given the proper Care for the gamers edition, and fixed some of ITS major problems
Wonder if my prediction will be correct
And we make it to 600
Speaking of-
yuh
or hearts idk
wait so its getting a remaster?
I pray that tatem does something good for once in its enterity of its short-lived existence, in this world
YOOO
hopefully
lets pray to the ancients of FMM UV-32
we have been waiting for this for like
what
20 years
no way more than that
they’re sending the ghoul on my cheeks
I think carnivores, is a satire, about the human behavior of trying to understand its place in the universe
But seriously who owns the rights for cityscape
I'd kill to see the carnivores games get a remaster! Loved these since I was a kid!
Tatem? Oh damn
Oh hey 400+!
Both the dev team and the publisher for it are abandoned I’m pretty sure
Tatem owns it
After a Hard, extensive search on chat gpt
yk I actually talked with both Anthony Campiti and Todd Marshall a long time ago, they gave me the good to go on using the concepts and designs. Lemme get the screenshots
Atari? O well thats quite unexpected
I mean I see that as a good thing because...
O well thats quite awesome
Wait how does Atari
Have cityscape
Won't tatem have gotten those rights especially for distribution
Because they own the actual ip
Yooo get those Cityscape votes up then!
LISTEN TO THE MEN
wonder how much they would sell cityscape’s rights for
i dont even know if tatem is alive tbh
they basically went dark in 2018, and sure Dinosaur Hunt came out but thats one thing in that timeframe
But wait how does Atari own the rights to cityscape
inspector!
No Godzilla kid
WE NEED TO ADD THE CARNIVOROUS ORNITHOPOD
Nope Alex kid now
the what
Not again inspector
You know better
we NEED the hypercarnivorous PLATEOSAURUS as the legends fortow
400 is a good number
Ye
If y’all get 500 I’ll draw the femboy hunter again
^
We going to FMM- UV32🗣️
Damn
The infamous carnivores femboy hunter
Crazy shit
Imagine a Carnivores Multiplayer
maybe it’s for the best that I don’t
But with femboys
"One mans trash is another mans treasure"
Its a hunter, but with feminine traits
We're going to Woods of Turan Choks
with napalm
Lol
DinoHunt Corp. watching me save up enough credits and buying nuclear weaponry and proceeding to bomb their hunting paradise while there is nothing they can do but watch (bye bye billions of dollars)
They should have read their own contract
“Sign this waiver.”
“no u”
Dis hunting program is dangerous and we do not take responsibility what so ever
Good luck in the field
the invincible T-rex when I make him into a permanent shadow on the ground with my atomic weapons
bulletproof armor THIS
Our only responsibility is sending your lifeless body back to your family on your home planet
Thank u for joining our company
:3
how dinohunt corp. feels knowingly sending people to their death
#gaming-general message this message contains Atari's IP list, I don't see Carnivores nor Cityscapes in it.
gfs also said vivisector was atari too and that's not listed either
Yea I figured that would be the case
It wouldn't count licensed games, I noticed that list also lacks the Godzilla Pipeworks trilogy https://discord.com/channels/190583485826727936/1174978293158658089 which was published by Atari/Infogrames
Cityscape is a 100% owned by tatem
I don't understand why Atari would own the rights to a game to a franchise they don't own
Erm, they're not resurrected dinosaurs, they're dinosaur-like aliens
Vivisector is possibly owned by gearbox software or tatem
Tatem is the evolution of AF as they share a the same members and what not
So it makes sense why they have a lot of vivisector stuff
But do they own vivisector is something I have no clue
Last time I checked vivisector is owned by the same folks who own Duke Nukem which would be Gearbox software
But there is no confirmation on that front
And Cryostasis is owned by god
because infogrames was obtained by atari and for some reason that immediately puts carnivores/action forms under assumption of being owned by atari despite infogrames being a publisher not the developer
especially since we know that tatem owns the ip to carnivores which in turn means cityscape is tatem's, and there is no presence of atari's ownership in chasm's remaster as far as i remember seeing in the credits since it was originally action forms'
I thought it was that original atari went bankrupt and a new company bought the atari brand. Whether that was infogrames buying the brand or a different company becoming the second incarnation of atari and then buying infogrames idk
Atari history is weird and I'm sure there's some atari affiliated moderator just lurking and laughing at this convo
idk man but whatever the case atari has no stake in carnivores or any action forms ip
if they did, it'd be listed in the doc brundle posted and at least to some degree mentioned in other places of info like wikipedia
Reminder that If a studio goes down aka AF they sell all there individual IPs to the highest bidder
I understand the assumption since sometimes the publishers are the ip holders but this was not the case for carnivores or else the tatem games wouldn't have ever happened
Well, I think its up to the nightdive guys to dive into this
So AF titles are owned by multiple different companies
These are the steam credits for Chasm
there's also the in-game credits
Yea that would probably say more about who owns chasm
watching now to see
My guess is that chasm is owned by a random fellow who is just holding the ip
kills the dude now I owns the ip
Tatem is the only company that owns a action forms title that has spilled it out that they obviously own it
Cryostasis
Vivisector
Chasm
Are all more of a mystery
My guess is that chasm and Cryostasis are either owned by former AF developers of just some random guys
BTW Tatem is still active. They just make shitty mobile games you'd see on those annoying ads
And vivisector same case or gearbox software
What I find interesting
About them is they have two different accounts on the app store idk about google play store
One account has the carnivores franchise
The other contains all there other games
maybe some guy or both since that vivisector/duke nukem map appeared in the mobile port
Its on one account on google
I see so just an apple side thing
Also for the remaster please let's not implement the android version of the credits system
Ideally it would be the original pc games with the added graphics and content of the mobile games without changing the core gameplay and balance
Or anything from the mobile ports really
I would like some user configuration options like enabling mortal zones for C2 and Ice Age
I rather have these games be a clean slate
I like the doubled animal roster and few extra guns
tbf the previous turok remasters don't allow you to experience them without the nightdive enhancements and changes
I think at most we can just have that stuff he a steam work shop support extra
Instead of throwing it into the base game
Just add "change game" and + icon on yhe main menu
you still have the base game available on pc for free though
If people want the mobile port dinosaurs
One install via steam workshop
You could even see it as like a demo
On how mods will work for carnivores
Remaster
I think the + icon should be for full blown mod
They'll more than likely want to market a pretty looking game and all of the enhancements they've added
You click + icon and you see a bunch of mod you install
Personally they should just stick with the originals
Just like Turok you'll have to use mods to opt out of the changes rather than the other way around
You select what you want to play and it switch to the mod menu
When you download a mod on the workshop
It's like the traditional way of downloading mod on moddb
another reason why they should give carnivores to someone who would actually keep it alive
What they can do is create a instance
The mod come with graphic file res and everything
Like minecraft
That can hold hundreds of dinosaurs
Like idk make a custom instance
Where you can add any map or dinosaur
Individually
not to bring up a dead horse but I still find the atari stuff interesting, this is what wikipedia says about the godzilla games: "...published by Infogrames under the Atari brand..."
Atari () is a brand name that has been owned by several entities since its inception in 1972. It is currently owned by French holding company Atari SA (formerly Infogrames) and its focus is on "video games, consumer hardware, licensing and blockchain". The original Atari, Inc., founded in Sunnyvale, California, United States in 1972 by Nolan Bus...
We are at 415 votes
Wonder if we will pull off 500 tomorrow
Or in two days at least
We shall see
Ima do a poll
Did the remaster get rejected because I saw someone post inflation porn in a public server and need to get that image out of my head
What the fuck
GIVE US THE PIPEWORKS TRILOGY REMASTER RAHHH
⭐ Would you prefer the trilogy to be one application
Or
🎣 Have the trilogy be three separate releases
It’s like someone said earlier, they’re individually too small to remaster
bruh
420 votes dam
There is no way Nightdive is not gonna at least try to get a remaster out
I need god after that
Who knows. They might be trying to do it right now
I still don't understand how to correlated that with the rejection of the remaster
Where the fuck did that come from
I need eye bleach, man
They would be legends for that
I mean, are they not already?
Legends in the carnivores community
Specifically
They are already legends in the gaming sphere
I mean, the fact that they’re even considering it should say a lot
Well yea
We fucking blew up the server with carnivores votes
We will tell our children
Yea I voted for that
Now play it instead of fortnite chapter 45
They will tell their grandchildren
As Carnivores outdoes…I mean there’s not much like it now, like…Call of the Wild?
dude steam workshop carnivores is like a 10 year old dream for me
Been a dream for everyone
Wonder how that could work
Also although is a trilogy, on hindsight, like it can all be on the "same game"
like ice age is the same thing as carns2, just ya know, to the point we can mod the games to have each other animals, maps and so on
weirdly like, a hybrid if that makes any sense?? like a pop up menu that allows you to select any of the trilogy instead of one game that compiles all stuff together
like a menu pops up and gives you the option of rather of c1,c2, or cia, and not one carnivores games where you can select any map or animal in one game
That sort of approach could also be used for large mods I guess
could also be that too
Although if ya asked me I wouldnt mind if some of the content crossed a little more
like if in terms of a workshop is made could have a full conversion label
like the carns 1 content can perfectly be mixed with carns 2
oh definitely
me personally you can easily make c2 and ice age into one game and have it sectioned in "regions"
heck I wouldnt mind some ice age creatures showing up in some specific maps
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
archaeopteryx would work
ye definitely
hmm yeah, that can work
There are certainly ways one could approach it
ice age could work with carni 1 and 2
On general the 3 games are pretty um, "mixable"
Idk if people would really mind if ya could hunt triceratops on the carns 2 maps
with steam workshop u can just swap it out for something
Yeah some option to like, swap the games could work
carns 2 and ice age gonna have a lot of overlap
carnivores 1 and 2 can be 1 game then ice age is separate
C1 has a more distinct style
It has less levels of details in the texturing in comparison to c2/ia
think at the end of the day 3 games would make stuff easier
1 single game is like convient for some but 3 games makes it easier to do mods and stuff
Personally if the discussion of putting together the games into some sort of “uni-carnivores”, I think it would be just putting pachycephalo and triceratops into c2 and having ice age’s content be unlockable after completing the main dinosaur content. Not a favourable choice tbh
I think a sort of "game swap"/"region swap" would be more logical
like a world map?
depends of where ya put the limit of what swaps
that could work really good
and again, depending of where that limit is set up, could be used for large modpacks
could i just say
if in terms nightdive actually looks into this, and they do get into contact with tatem or the current right owners of carnivores, i hope there is some form of communication in case of the scenario of why they wont give the rights or agree to a remaster
like in the scenario tatem or whatever says no, there is some reason shared at the very least
i hope so
Oh yeah would be nice to know
because we know what happened to the mobile ports and have very easy speculation on the remakes
it'd be nice to at least know where this ip sort of lies
i do wonder how workshop modding would be like
would people do single dinos and guns
then u get the classics modpacks
well i guess if nightdive does look into workshop support, then it would be the more traditional addons and total conversions
so you'd have the stand alone dinosaurs, guns, maps and etc releases and the total conversions that have them in a single release
so i think it would be appropriate for single release mods and "packs"
Hmm, wonder if breaking the huntables limit would be a possibility
But oh well, Im happy with it running properly on modern devices
Well yea that's what I'm thinking too
I will make an example image/video on how the mods and remasters could work
would be so cool
A remake would put me into catatonic shock
People keep using the word remake
When honestly we don't need a remake
Especially if mod support is a thing
Mod creators will literally make the remakes for us
its a remaster
Exactly
Idk why remake and remaster are so commonly flipped flopped
To me its pretty basic
Remake you build the game up from scratch
You nothing from the original source
Remaster you take a pre-existing game and make it better either with graphical updates or just better features that aren't in the original
Will remaster have modding support?
i would be shocked if a potential remaster project didn't support existing mods to some extent, given how important modding has been to the comments i've seen posted these last two days
keep in mind depending on how different some mods are, there would likely be some that aren't compatible, in the same way MyHouse isn't compatible with ND's Doom and Arcane Dimensions has too many stolen assets to be allowed in ND's Quake
if the engine will be recognizably similar i'm sure oli of modder's edition could be able to get all the new mod stuff transfered over fairly easy
i don't think we have as much as a extreme difference in ports like doom's modding scene
i really really hope that ND is able to remaster these classics
Trust me without mods this community would not be as alive as it is now
Literally just hopped in because I saw Saurian Target post about this. I am so hoping this actually goes through, both in votes (although it really looks like that will) and that the owners let you. I still play the various mods but it would be nice to have the games brought into a more modern engine, maybe with the Workshop support the scrapped port had promised.
Woah y'all got lots of votes
If it will come with new and well working editor for creatures, maps, sounds, weapons and everything, that will be dream come true.
YES PLEASE
A new map editor would be so damn wonderful
Would be awesome if this went through and Poharex came back to port Triassic to it.
If we get proper editors, it will allow us so much...
I didn't have the luck to play it. 😦 So in a way that would be cool too toh ave a chance.
Cityscape would look shit even with a remaster tbh
Instead a remake would be more fitting
Tbh it kinda is the only thing people want, the real reason for people to want this remaster is because more recent computer systems just don’t support carnivores (I assume a universal problem for most older pc games). Sooner or later not only would carnivores be lost due to compatibility issues, but the entire history of mods will be lost too.
If the remaster does happen and doesn’t support modding in some way, we could be seeing a near to next disappearance of 20 years worth of modding.
And I don’t know the pure extent of modding within other similar games, but carnivores is very easy to mod, because it’s purely aesthetic changes that can be combined into new entire entries, without real programming needed. That’s why workshop support wouldn’t only be necessary but should be theoretically easy, considering the most basic of mods is importing a the asset file and changing a few names in a text file.
in actuality that’s why MEE is also suggested heavily to be somehow integrated because it is THE engine mod, it’s the only one that has new content in terms of ai and features and mostly acts as the framework for other modders to use.
I would even dare say (not speaking for everyone here but I assume is a shared sentiment for some) that if the series gets remastered but has no form of modding capabilities even outside official support, then it would be sorta anti-climactic and arguably disappointing.
aaay we surpassed 430 votes
My guess
Is that somehow we will pull of 500 votes
Also even if mods don't make it
Which I certainly hope they do
Because mods are what kept this game alive this long
But even then I'd be really happy just have these games on a modern system
Periodic reminder to vote for these if you want more dino games.
Mods will be instrumental to this game tbh.
I've seen a few Jurassic park games up for votes too (and voted for them), but I get the feeling universal would be less likely to play ball. As much as I'd love remasters of JPOG and Trespasser, they wouldn't want to take sales away from JWE, and Trespasser is one of their biggest failures
Unless they do another one of those retro remaster collections that is
Also 443 votes?????? We're in first place by a huuuuge margin now!
I have expectations from remaster. I wonder how big are expectations of all our voters that want Carnivores remastered.
Past Jurassic Park games have been brought back so I'd say this wouldn't necessarily ring true. I'm not sure what they'd think of JPOG, but I'd argue it isn't direct competition for JWE considering we're getting another park builder soon and frankly I'd prefer if they stuck to the Jurassic Park: Survival formula for a while going forward.
Jurassic Park lends itself to character action or horror games so well, yet we've got so few.
I agree but I just don't know if universal would see it that way, they're both park builders which could be close enough for them. Would be really happy if I'm wrong tho
Oh for sure
Also, outside of JP, I'd want a Peter jacksons king kong game remaster above anything else tbh
That game really wouldn't even need to much remastering. Just bug fixes and a proper release on modern platforms
Oh same, I'd actually prefer that over JP content.
Also I'd love for a change in graphics options between PS2, Xbox360, and remaster visuals
I've got it running off the web recently and it's still remarkably stable on my current build so I'm not sure how much work they'd actually need to put into it.
444 votes gah damn
I'd argue that even if this doesn't get remastered, the fanbase can always take on that mantle. It's worth it, because the possibilities are endless, as it does not have a fully established lore and IP, if I'm not mistaken.
True I guess
The problem is that, much like AVP2Unknown we kind of live in a legal limbo without an official re-release.
While I love communities coming together over modding a game, the truth is that the entire operation can be shafted by a leadership change where it's decided that not doing something with an IP is preferable to missing out on money from it being handled by the fanbase.
Not every company is nintendo, but they sure can become it with the wrong douchebag in charge.
Plenty of modding projects have been shut down in this manner before.
What?
Like the fan base will create a remaster and publish it on steam on their own?
Not necessarily. Can be just accessible through another, neutral platform.
Commercial distribution is probably out of the picture then.
You’re right. But as far as I know it’s not some huge studio that’s been at the helm of this franchise, so it should technically be an easier issue to deal with, compared to any major studio’s case.
It really won't be if that happens.
Any company has as much of a right to shut down modding projects, regardless of business size or project scope.
@cerulean sluice Who currently owns the rights to the Carnivores IP?
Tatem
Tatem was cool with modding in 2018, and they'll continue to be cool with the way we do it until they aren't.
A remaster isn't really something a fan base can create as it's extremely complicated
And that can literally take a single hand over in leadership.
It isn't as simple as changing a couple lines of code
Could be today, could be tomorrow, could be in ten years.
It's something an entire team/studio can only create
Honestly the community at large has been doing well in doing something along those lines.
If it’s ultimately up to Tatem, would a crowdfunding make them be more open to a remaster?
They did plan to publish dinosaur hunter on steam back in the day I remember
Let Nightdive handle things.
I don't think they'd mind somebody doing the job for them
Yeah with like the steam green light
Or smth
If Nightdive reaching out to them scares them into finally finishing the Steam port, then so be it. If they let Nightdive do it, I see that as an asbolute win.
Although the former would arguably be worse than the latter.
Nightdive should just buy the carnivores ip from them at this point
Maybe they can.
Is dinosaur hunt still receiving updates?
Probably
No bro what
They made a dlc back in like 2022
Oh you mean that remake garbage?
Hardly even a dlc tbh
Past that I don't know whether they were really active
It's definitely bad
It is bad.
I can agree
But thats just my opinion
Its decent at max
Digital dreams wasn't really the only one involved in it
They were the ones who ported it to unity then tatem just did nothing
I think he meant digital dreams
Hark.
What is tatem even doing atp man
Making trash mobile games for toddlers
Its like they completely abandoned carnivores as a whole
Idek if they're doing that atp
Yeah they're more concerned with mobile garbage than Carnivores.
The only time when they will care about carnivores is when night dive remasters it and sells it
They gonna shit their pants
Buy carnivores ❎
Buy tatem ✅
So true
Wild
Oh hey barry
This is legit how some companies think.
It's fucking rancid.
Usually that's done by leadership who doesn't have faith in their products and instead is looking to cash out on the next takeover.
yo
Activision-Blizzard is one of the major players who were seriously guilty of this, same with Bethsoft.
Sony
Does action forms even exist as a company
yeah let's keeping remastering the same two TLOU games
Probably shut down
I seriously soured on TLOU because of that.
Whats some game companies yall think are actually good?
I love valve
I love gaben
Nightdive, Valve, Rebellion to some degree.
Gaben is love, gaben is life.
Saber Interactive is GOATed nowadays.
For me its bohemia(creators of arma)
Are they tho
By the looks of origins
Idk about that
Turok origins
We'll see.
They made the game third person like ] what
It looks like they're leaning into the tek side of things, but I'm not sure if that's bad.
It's what they do, they mainly do third person games.
I'm glad they didn't remake the original cuz only one who can do that is nightdive
No one else
I do love their dino designs tho.
They look monstrously rad which I'd expect from a different dimension.
At this point Nightdive is one of the few companies I still trust with retro gaming full stop.
New Blood is pretty based too.
okay this is definetly getting a remaster, if they get the license. 👀
Yes.
how do u vote?
click the
icon on the first post or at the top of the window on Discord Desktop
thank you
Almost at 450!
But the models are all the same lol
I'm really looking forward to seeing what the remakes will be like
Remaster
Like a week ago I was thinking about what it would be , like if nightdive nightdive remastered carnivores (I didn't know about any of this) now my dream is coming true
It'll just be nice lighting with upscaled textures and nicer gameplay
That's what a remaster is
Remake is something different
New blood
This is what the water should look like in the Carnivores remaster. Especially the third shot taken from Archipelagos works remarkably well to add extra detail without destroying the retro aesthetic. If people want shaded water and more sophisticated lighting techniques I wouldn't be against the option being added, but I'd like to be able to turn it off at the very least to get that 90's gaming feel back like we've got going on with the likes of QUAKE.
Could even take a page out of the modders' books and add in some extra foliage like Fallen Kings and Archipelago does.
This is just a water texture image applied on
Exactly.
In the original it looks so bland just blue with slight noise
It's so weird to see that especially during that time
Games around then didn't have water that was so bland
most of them at least that I've seen
Too many games make the mistake by adding water effects that just doesn't fit the retro feel of a game by adding shading techiques that just didn't exist at the time. Tatem's mobile ports are the most egregious example of this with their fully shaded and reflective water which just clashes entirely with the style of the game.
True
Also have you seen how buggy the reflections are too
They be tweaking the hell out sometimes
Are you guys gonna be taking stuff from the mods
Or asking well know modders to do new stuff
I'm not sure what Nightdive will decide is possible within the parameters they have to work with.
We'll have to see.
The only way we can save cdh is when someone buy it and start actually put some work on it
Otherwise i dont think that it could be saved
We shouldn't be concerned with saving CDH.
We should focus on the original games and its modding scene.
Ik but i love cdh too
Only one guy working for them actually cared about the franchise from what I remember
I hope he's okay
I hope that too
Wonder what Nightdive would do if they got full rights to the IP
Ooo maybe take the game to another level
Idk
I actually just want the graphics to be better
Like the mobile one
My biggest wish beyond the obvious stuff like resolution and borderless is a better main menu
And be on Morden engine
Yes
With a native support for more animals and maps
Would be cool
Weapons etc
And full on mod support
Graphic options really need more work yeah.
Guys is unit engine hard to use?
Full mod support is a must
Or its simple
Agree
Idk
I think people are turning away from unity
Yes and no
Oh
There was some kind of drama a couple years ago
Like?
Learning c# is the hard part tbh
Nope
Still remaining one of the most used engines
Cause unreal engine added bullshit rules to censor any single word
And godot is decent ig
Unity is still the best choice for me
I think its pretty cool tbh
The only problem is learning c# as u said
The rest is ok
If your starting out
Yeah use unity
Carnivores is dope, i grew up playing carnivores ice age, id love to play it again !!
I grew with both
They both are cool tbh
But i’d like a better graphic theme of it
So
Still wish for cdh to get alive again
I personally like C1 the most
Same
I like the maps
It has the most prehistoric looking environments
c2 didnt add much
Especially the ancient temple
So
And I like those ancient ruins
Yeee so much memories
I just wish dinosaur hunt wasn’t rushed
Hope for a close announcement about the remaster
It had amazing potential
I would like to see the ancient temple in dinosaur hunt tbh
I still don’t know why it was abandoned so fast besides the obvious, even still, the stalker team got out of there and they made an amazing game
Im starting to think that they made it for money only
Like
There was no purpose of it
This us soo disappointing
As I said dde and tatem doesn’t deserve cdh and the carnivores saga.
The only way we can save the game is by modding it or when an actual studio buy it
Otherwise i dont think
They haven't even finished the mobile versions
That we can do anything about it
Ikk
That’s really disappointing
I think megeatherium and dilophosaurus were supposed to be added
But ended up being partially finished
Yup. Dilo had everything but sounds and Mega had a uv file
There is A lot of dinos and mammals should be added
Either that or they got desperate and were trying to save the company from sinking
But they decided to just stick with that ahh mutant thing
What I love about IA Mobile is that the roster was more non ice age cenozoic fauna. Made it more unique
Dude they are developing another games
What sinking man
Where?
They just abandoned us
Tatem are developing mobile games
There was this gym simulator or something
And dde with mutant football
Around the time when the PC ports were supposed to come out
And when was that last updated?
Like back in 2017 lol
Check there X account
Every time they post something about mutant
Can’t, don’t have an account
Idk about tatem they seems that they doesnt have an account
Oh
Last update from dde on X was in 8/1/2025
Yeah pretty active
The last content update was 2018 with the new grass feature
For mutant?
Or cdh
Mobile ports
Oh
They did some updates
But it was for bugs and etc
The last time they added something new was in 2018 yeah
Could also be because the carnivores team straight up just left
Tatem now is just a name
Dde are doing the most work
They brought up cdh to unity engine
And yeah
Abandoned it again
TBF stuff going on in Ukraine is also a factor
After they promised that they’ll focus on it
Yp
Ik
I hope they are ok
Did their office get destroyed? I saw something about that back at the start of the war
I dunno
They didn’t mention
They are based in kiev
And Kiev isn’t damaged
I think
I hate war
There were some missile strikes I believe
Kiev is like in the center of the country
Ik
They also have offices in Cyprus and California
Trump said the war will come to an end
So did buttin said
He is ready to stop the war
I wouldn't believe politicians
Well
Guess we’ll just hope
For the war to stop
Tbh i have some faith that trump would actually do something
Bro said kiev isn't damagef
He is good at making deals
Don't see that happening
but we also still have to note the large time frame before the invasion
Hope they are ok
I mean, iirc, didn’t a lot of people in Ukraine know an invasion was imminent?
Yes, there were signs for years before the invasion
i guess but that's still a rather big time frame. like we're talking more than a few years
we know they still had the some man power because the mobile port would receive tiny updates
i thought Tatem was based in Cyprus?
but it was a lot of radio silence for carnivores and plenty of other mobile game projects being made regardless
It's also possible that some of Tatem employees moved to different countries when the war started
yeah, some of the devs that i've had on my steam friends list said they've gone to other studios too
Best thing for everyone at this point is just for DDE to sell the rights to Nightdive, what happens next I don’t know
Oh..
Thats what im saying
If nightdive manages to grab the IP, carnivores is moving up in the world
Let's hope they're willing to sell the rights
A new era starts
regardless, Stephen is in touch with the Tatem CEO, he's mentioned before that he knows him
so who knows
Tatems greedy ass would take the offer immediately
I gusse they have no choice
I hope they don’t pull an EA and keep the rights even though they…don’t do anything with it
Night dive?
No Tatem
do we know if Tatem even has it now, or is it Digital Dreams?
I swear sometimes it feels like company CEOs love toying with fanbases
Either or works
I don’t know I ask that all the time with EA and Dead Space
They got no choice
Tatem aint even do nun with carnivores
Why even keep it
Ig the only thing they get from carnivores is ad revenue
fr
Is anyone even playing the mobile ports?
they really need to give the rights to someone else
i still do from time to time but not often
Most fans prefer to fiddle around with the mods
And I think mobile animals have been ported to PC anyway
solid meme
Begs the question, would people actually buy the carnivores remaster or would they just stick to the mods?
I wonder when ND will post about about our interest for this trilogy to get remastered
depends on how good the remaster looks and how well it runs
If the remaster has mod support the answer is obvious I think
I love Carnivores Legacy but man crashing in the middle of a hunt and then auditory hell makes me wanna jump off a bridge
i might have a fix for this
Auditory hell is the worst part
Maybe in their next youtube video?
I remember when I heard it for the first time
This is WHY we need a remaster
Have y'all ever tried tabbing out of the menu it's a treat
funnily enough, for me playing this on windows 11, put the compatability to windows xp (service pack 2) ever since i did that the crashes stopped completely
Lets just pray night dive doesn’t fuck it up
Bro what
“what happened to him?”
“he made the mistake of alt-tabbing out of carnivores”
Noodles, your pfp makes me think of those old gmod videos
My name is not noodles mf
You heard me VERY WELL.
Needles then
I like noodles more
That's cause it is
Sonic zombies
Iirc they only messed up with the Blade Runner remaster
WINDOWS XP?!
I don’t know if I have that option
System shock remaster (not remake) runs like ass too. And people keep complaining about their Blood as well
You gotta go to the .exe properties and change it there
Yeah I know, but I’ve never went that far back
Other than that Night Dive makes amazing remasters
People complaining about it are hardcore fans
Might
They notice miniscule details and then complain about them
M and n are right next to eachother
Sad
Still
I'm still waiting for the promised System Shock 2 remaster
Game development takes time
Yea same bro
It's one of the best games ever made in my opinion
It has such an aesthetic bro
System Shock 2 and Thief are two games that we've been hoping for quite a bit.
Ah yes, SS2 and it's Thief sword holding animations
Why is system shock so underrated
Thief is great, but I like SS more
There are so many memorable enemies and moments
Like those monkeys throwing psychic blasts at you
I love how SS2 lets you choose your career path.
First time I played SS2 I thought it takes place in the same universe as Starship Troopers because of this career choice
The whole Carnivores community
Yes.
SS2 is like if peak was a videogame
Let's wait for Nightdive to at least acknowledge us first lol
that and Prey 2017, my favorite game ever made personally
Prey was great, but I think SS2 is better
Prey would've been great if it wasn't named Prey.
Because the name really tainted its legacy.
i think the name only hurts the image of the game, not the game itself
idk there are Prey 2017 HATERS out there and i have no clue why
They're probably still salty about cancelled Prey 2
I really hope something comes out of this
Which is fine, but it's not Arkane's fault
according to the Noclip doc(?) they didn't really have a name idea until Bethesda came up to them and just went "you should use the PREY name" and they didn't really object
Fair
we can also argue "doom"
Blood
uno
it's just spanish for one
spider-man (ps4) its just the name of the character
yea spider-man is a character name so it doesn't count in this argument
Not a single word, but I'd say Black & White also counts
It's generic enough
Fable as well
For how long will the voting last
Forever basically
We have enough votes for ND to atleast notice
We just have to wait and see what's next
Iirc it gets archived
Idr tho
But either way
I'm really bloody excited
The only thing I'm excited about this week because I'm not happy about going back to school
doom is named after a specific type of pain
Huh?
the word "doom" is not a type of pain?
Pain of getting obliterated by Archvile
Is that Gojira in the chat?
doom is what happens when you cheat on your gf
we're on 467 currently
you're welcome
But one is actually gojira (the Japanese name)
Mecha goji has a gay laser/j
whos the guy next to goji
King Caesar
We (moderator team) add a tag called "
achieved" but we haven't actually locked any of the games that have been released since this version of the request forum started. We're certainly not deleting the entry, as the devs might want to look through it and gauge the fan desires
Idk why I always wondered if his eye beams tasted Ike these
Oic
I trust you rn since you're pretty close to ND as a moderator
I see it very even, in some comics Hulk is multiversal, he can regenerate and heal quickly, and the angrier he gets, the stronger he is.
Usually the angrier he gets the bigger he is too
This forum is really just Jet Strange and I as far as maintenance and changes go. I've got two major points of contact with staff (the community managers), but I've reached out to individuals as needed.
i'm very happi
Even though its a little lesser, I’d still love if Carnivores: Cityscape was included in the serieswide remaster
it would have to be completely seperate since i think the trilogy would be like those remaster collections in one game sorta thing
I never really considered Citiscape to be a part of the main canon
No confirmation on that
it sorta is?
I just assumed series meant franchise
Aesthetic wise it has much more in common with primal prey
its just an idea
But it would be ideal if it was one Exe
