#Carnivores (Series)

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graceful lance
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It keeps changing 😂

jade basin
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1 more

worthy star
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I know someone is trying to be the 400th guy

upbeat hearth
worthy star
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So it was you

upbeat hearth
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No

graceful lance
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Never played the game but I gave Metal Arms a vote

upbeat hearth
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You Crazy no of course no

worthy star
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Legorocket

graceful lance
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I’ve already voted here

worthy star
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If you can I recommend post a message link in the saga community announcement for vivisector for ease to find

upbeat hearth
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NO ONE STOPPING ME FROM BEING THE 400 GUY

cerulean sluice
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Cecom started their villain arc lol

graceful lance
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3 votes

graceful ermine
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it's 2 votes for me

upbeat hearth
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Nah uh

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We see pal

viral loom
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wait, the hunter model has teeth?

worthy star
viral loom
worthy star
craggy dawn
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RIP 4K Allosaurus

upbeat hearth
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Cmon fellas two more

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Two more...

viral loom
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FOR THE ANCIENTS

worthy star
upbeat hearth
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Yes..

worthy star
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Don't make me wait

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…..

viral loom
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for when they're singing it should've been the C1 ancient temple ambience

cerulean sluice
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The rest of this server looking at this chat like:

upbeat hearth
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Listen to your fellow community member...

worthy star
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1 more vote

cerulean sluice
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GO CECOM GO!

viral loom
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ONE MORE

cerulean sluice
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GO, GET IT!

jade basin
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for me it happened

cerulean sluice
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GET IT NOW!

upbeat hearth
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OOOOO

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I DIF

cerulean sluice
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YOOOOOO!

terse dagger
upbeat hearth
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DID

worthy star
cerulean sluice
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Shout out to @upbeat hearth for being vote number 400!

viral loom
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NO

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COME ON

upbeat hearth
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NOOO

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AHHAHAHA

viral loom
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YES YES

jade basin
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were back

barren bone
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Pfft.

graceful lance
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Yay!

upbeat hearth
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No

viral loom
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O

jade basin
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were not back

viral loom
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COME ON

upbeat hearth
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LMAO

cerulean sluice
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Doesn't matter, don't care, Cecom was number 400. Unvoting doesn't get you the shout out whomever's doing that.

barren bone
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Hey, think about it...

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we could reach 400...

jade basin
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Schrodinger's Carnivores Port tally

barren bone
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a second time.

haughty mesa
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sorry guys, nightdive remake is canceled now

viral loom
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lol

viral loom
haughty mesa
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yuh huh

graceful ermine
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this is what heart palpitations feels like

sonic basalt
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edging my 400

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or something

upbeat hearth
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THATS RIGHT FELAS

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I AM the 400 GuY

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We did

cerulean sluice
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400!

viral loom
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400!!!!!

worthy star
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Carnivores will be the greatest game or 2025

cerulean sluice
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If there's one thing that can be said about Carnivores and its community it is that we're all rabid as all hell when it comes to just about anything pertaining to Carnivores.

graceful ermine
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fun fact. if you scroll down to the bottom of the reactions list on the main post you'll see who's doing it

jade basin
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John Carnivores i bet

worthy star
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We are quite literally puting all eggs in one basket with this one

haughty mesa
worthy star
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But this time it will hopefully worth it

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We are rabbid carnivores

viral loom
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we're hungry for tyrannosaur meat

jade basin
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i imagine from here on out it will be diminishing returns, unless i wake up and its at 500 or smth because theres an uncontacted Carnivores enclave someone posted to

cerulean sluice
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Reddit has been reached out to, it's taking off on Carnivores YouTube.

worthy star
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Night dive will finally give us the remasters cityscape and the long awaited herbivores

cerulean sluice
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The server has largely voted.

fossil forum
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Dont know if this is a stupid question or not but does a game need a specific number of votes to get chosen or something

jade basin
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i dont believe so

cerulean sluice
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I'll explain how this works.

worthy star
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Should explain it and copy and paste it

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Whenever it's asked

haughty mesa
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its to gauge community interest not guarantee what's next

upbeat hearth
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Too late bro

cerulean sluice
# fossil forum Dont know if this is a stupid question or not but does a game need a specific nu...

So, Nightdive will pretty much take any IP they can get.

Games with 16 votes have as much of a chance as games that have 401 votes. What it really boils down to is how willing the license holders are to work with Nightdive to get the games worked on and re-released. The votes do help however in showing that there is at the very least community interest. On paper, 16 vs 401 votes does matter because then the license holders can see that there's an entire community coming to the Nightdive server specifically to vote for the game.

So even this many votes doesn't guarantee anything if the license holders of the game decide not to cooperate with Nightdive for whatever reason. But nevertheless it's strongly encouraged to vote for ANY game you'd like to see remastered because the more votes it has, the more likely some higher ups at companies holding publishing rights are to see the project as a viable commercial option.

quaint flower
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Hooray everyone!

upbeat hearth
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True true

quaint flower
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When I checked yesterday there were only 60

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That's a huge turnout

upbeat hearth
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Who hold the license for cityscape and primal prey?

fossil forum
cerulean sluice
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If you want more dino games vote for these here too.

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Some of these are more possible than others from a practical point of view.

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Most specifically Dino Crisis may not take Nightdive a lot of effort since some devs at GOG managed to get their hands on the classic Resident Evil games, and this does open doors for other Capcom titles being remastered.

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Turok Evolution I like the odds of as well because the first three Turok games have been remastered by Nightdive before.

upbeat hearth
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Ye its like

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Im pretty sure evolution Will get a remaster

cerulean sluice
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JPOG, King Kong, and Trespasser are ones I'm not sure of, but King Kong has been on my radar for a while and I'm sure that Ubisoft is gonna want to play ball with the position they're in now. It'd really come down to the film licensing for that one.

upbeat hearth
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Thats im quite sure

cerulean sluice
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Yeah Evolution seems like a no brainer to just about anyone in the ND community.

upbeat hearth
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Trespasser tho

cerulean sluice
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Even Turok 2008 I'm carefully optimistic on.

upbeat hearth
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That im not sure

cerulean sluice
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Trespasser is something that I'd love to see, but I'm really not holding my breath for it.

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It's a bit of a black sheep of the classic JP games and I can deff imagine people refusing Nightdive the opportunity due to the various painful memories that one left behind.

upbeat hearth
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Given to the recent release of Jurassic related stuff

cerulean sluice
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I'm really holding out hope for King Kong tbh.

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That game is an absolute blast.

upbeat hearth
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Not sure If universal is going to set the Green card for this title

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We do know they have the source code, nightdive people

cerulean sluice
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Yeah, King Kong was featured on a showcase IIRC.

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But what that means, we can't be sure of until there's an announcement.

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All I can say is vote.

upbeat hearth
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Ye king Kong would be awesome for sure

cerulean sluice
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But then we need to get the 2005 PC version and not the special console edition.

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Because that one is at least stable lol.

upbeat hearth
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We kinda have a "remastered" version, the gamer edition

cerulean sluice
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Plus, no HUD.

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Yeah the gamer edition was garbage.

upbeat hearth
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Altho has alot of bugs

cerulean sluice
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It was bad.

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Really bad.

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I have the physical disc so if Nightdive needs a hard copy, I'm willing to provide.

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Of the PC version

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The console one got lost or I sold again at some point, no clue what happened to it, but good riddance anyway.

upbeat hearth
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If they only had given the proper Care for the gamers edition, and fixed some of ITS major problems

worthy star
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Wonder if my prediction will be correct

worthy star
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And we make it to 600

cerulean sluice
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Speaking of-

upbeat hearth
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Also There is a reshade thing for king Kong im sure

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People created some time ago

rugged yarrow
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is carnivore on top

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it has like 400 likes

ember granite
rugged yarrow
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or hearts idk

rugged yarrow
upbeat hearth
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I pray that tatem does something good for once in its enterity of its short-lived existence, in this world

viral loom
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possibly

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we'll see

rugged yarrow
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YOOO

ember granite
viral loom
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lets pray to the ancients of FMM UV-32

rugged yarrow
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what

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20 years

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no way more than that

ember granite
upbeat hearth
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I think carnivores, is a satire, about the human behavior of trying to understand its place in the universe

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But seriously who owns the rights for cityscape

mellow moss
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I'd kill to see the carnivores games get a remaster! Loved these since I was a kid!

upbeat hearth
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Tatem? Oh damn

tawny mulch
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Oh hey 400+!

upbeat hearth
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Primal prey is truly unknown

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Who owns the rights

ember granite
upbeat hearth
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Tatem owns it

upbeat hearth
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After a Hard, extensive search on chat gpt

ember granite
# upbeat hearth Who owns the rights

yk I actually talked with both Anthony Campiti and Todd Marshall a long time ago, they gave me the good to go on using the concepts and designs. Lemme get the screenshots

upbeat hearth
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Atari? O well thats quite unexpected

ember granite
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I brought the receipts

haughty mesa
upbeat hearth
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O well thats quite awesome

worthy star
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Wait how does Atari

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Have cityscape

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Won't tatem have gotten those rights especially for distribution

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Because they own the actual ip

cerulean sluice
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Yooo get those Cityscape votes up then!

upbeat hearth
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LISTEN TO THE MEN

ember granite
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wonder how much they would sell cityscape’s rights for

upbeat hearth
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WOMAN, IM SORRY

jade basin
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i dont even know if tatem is alive tbh

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they basically went dark in 2018, and sure Dinosaur Hunt came out but thats one thing in that timeframe

worthy star
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But wait how does Atari own the rights to cityscape

jade basin
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inspector!

worthy star
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No Godzilla kid

steady compass
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WE NEED TO ADD THE CARNIVOROUS ORNITHOPOD

worthy star
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Nope Alex kid now

jade basin
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the what

worthy star
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You know better

steady compass
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we NEED the hypercarnivorous PLATEOSAURUS as the legends fortow

upbeat hearth
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Damn

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Alien dinosaur planet shit

steady compass
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400 is a good number

upbeat hearth
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Ye

steady compass
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If y’all get 500 I’ll draw the femboy hunter again

upbeat hearth
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Damn

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Alien shit

livid stump
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We going to FMM- UV32🗣️

upbeat hearth
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Damn

steady compass
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The infamous carnivores femboy hunter

upbeat hearth
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Crazy shit

livid stump
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Imagine a Carnivores Multiplayer

ember granite
livid stump
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But with femboys

fossil forum
upbeat hearth
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Its a hunter, but with feminine traits

upbeat hearth
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Most active Channel

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Truly remarkable

versed stirrup
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We're going to Woods of Turan Choks

ember granite
cunning kayak
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Lol

ember granite
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DinoHunt Corp. watching me save up enough credits and buying nuclear weaponry and proceeding to bomb their hunting paradise while there is nothing they can do but watch (bye bye billions of dollars)

upbeat hearth
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They should have read their own contract

ember granite
versed stirrup
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Dis hunting program is dangerous and we do not take responsibility what so ever

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Good luck in the field

mellow wharf
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the invincible T-rex when I make him into a permanent shadow on the ground with my atomic weapons

versed stirrup
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Our only responsibility is sending your lifeless body back to your family on your home planet

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Thank u for joining our company

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:3

ember granite
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how dinohunt corp. feels knowingly sending people to their death

viral loom
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OwO don't wowwy you can buy the cover scent

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And camo

thorny reef
# slender gorge

#gaming-general message this message contains Atari's IP list, I don't see Carnivores nor Cityscapes in it.

graceful ermine
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gfs also said vivisector was atari too and that's not listed either

worthy star
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Yea I figured that would be the case

haughty mesa
worthy star
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Cityscape is a 100% owned by tatem

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I don't understand why Atari would own the rights to a game to a franchise they don't own

prime gorge
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Erm, they're not resurrected dinosaurs, they're dinosaur-like aliens

worthy star
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Vivisector is possibly owned by gearbox software or tatem

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Tatem is the evolution of AF as they share a the same members and what not

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So it makes sense why they have a lot of vivisector stuff

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But do they own vivisector is something I have no clue

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Last time I checked vivisector is owned by the same folks who own Duke Nukem which would be Gearbox software

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But there is no confirmation on that front

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And Cryostasis is owned by god

graceful ermine
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especially since we know that tatem owns the ip to carnivores which in turn means cityscape is tatem's, and there is no presence of atari's ownership in chasm's remaster as far as i remember seeing in the credits since it was originally action forms'

haughty mesa
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Atari history is weird and I'm sure there's some atari affiliated moderator just lurking and laughing at this convo

graceful ermine
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idk man but whatever the case atari has no stake in carnivores or any action forms ip

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if they did, it'd be listed in the doc brundle posted and at least to some degree mentioned in other places of info like wikipedia

worthy star
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Reminder that If a studio goes down aka AF they sell all there individual IPs to the highest bidder

haughty mesa
upbeat hearth
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Well, I think its up to the nightdive guys to dive into this

worthy star
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So AF titles are owned by multiple different companies

haughty mesa
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These are the steam credits for Chasm

graceful ermine
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there's also the in-game credits

worthy star
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Yea that would probably say more about who owns chasm

graceful ermine
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watching now to see

worthy star
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My guess is that chasm is owned by a random fellow who is just holding the ip

upbeat hearth
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kills the dude now I owns the ip

worthy star
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Tatem is the only company that owns a action forms title that has spilled it out that they obviously own it

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Cryostasis
Vivisector
Chasm

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Are all more of a mystery

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My guess is that chasm and Cryostasis are either owned by former AF developers of just some random guys

graceful lance
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BTW Tatem is still active. They just make shitty mobile games you'd see on those annoying ads

worthy star
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And vivisector same case or gearbox software

worthy star
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About them is they have two different accounts on the app store idk about google play store

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One account has the carnivores franchise

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The other contains all there other games

haughty mesa
graceful lance
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Its on one account on google

worthy star
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I see so just an apple side thing

graceful lance
haughty mesa
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Ideally it would be the original pc games with the added graphics and content of the mobile games without changing the core gameplay and balance

worthy star
haughty mesa
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I would like some user configuration options like enabling mortal zones for C2 and Ice Age

worthy star
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I rather have these games be a clean slate

haughty mesa
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tbf the previous turok remasters don't allow you to experience them without the nightdive enhancements and changes

worthy star
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I think at most we can just have that stuff he a steam work shop support extra

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Instead of throwing it into the base game

versed stirrup
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Just add "change game" and + icon on yhe main menu

haughty mesa
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you still have the base game available on pc for free though

worthy star
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If people want the mobile port dinosaurs

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One install via steam workshop

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You could even see it as like a demo

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On how mods will work for carnivores

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Remaster

versed stirrup
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I think the + icon should be for full blown mod

haughty mesa
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They'll more than likely want to market a pretty looking game and all of the enhancements they've added

versed stirrup
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You click + icon and you see a bunch of mod you install

worthy star
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Personally they should just stick with the originals

haughty mesa
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Just like Turok you'll have to use mods to opt out of the changes rather than the other way around

versed stirrup
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You select what you want to play and it switch to the mod menu

worthy star
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And not go for the clashing aesthetic

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Unless its modable in or out

versed stirrup
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When you download a mod on the workshop

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It's like the traditional way of downloading mod on moddb

ember granite
worthy star
versed stirrup
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The mod come with graphic file res and everything

worthy star
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Like minecraft

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That can hold hundreds of dinosaurs

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Like idk make a custom instance

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Where you can add any map or dinosaur

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Individually

haughty mesa
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not to bring up a dead horse but I still find the atari stuff interesting, this is what wikipedia says about the godzilla games: "...published by Infogrames under the Atari brand..."

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Atari () is a brand name that has been owned by several entities since its inception in 1972. It is currently owned by French holding company Atari SA (formerly Infogrames) and its focus is on "video games, consumer hardware, licensing and blockchain". The original Atari, Inc., founded in Sunnyvale, California, United States in 1972 by Nolan Bus...

worthy star
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We are at 415 votes

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Wonder if we will pull off 500 tomorrow

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Or in two days at least

cunning kayak
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We shall see

worthy star
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Ima do a poll

craggy dawn
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Did the remaster get rejected because I saw someone post inflation porn in a public server and need to get that image out of my head

worthy star
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What the fuck

craggy dawn
worthy star
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⭐ Would you prefer the trilogy to be one application
Or
🎣 Have the trilogy be three separate releases

craggy dawn
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It’s like someone said earlier, they’re individually too small to remaster

shadow bridge
worthy star
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420 votes dam

craggy dawn
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There is no way Nightdive is not gonna at least try to get a remaster out

worthy star
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They are very respectable group

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They will try there best

craggy dawn
craggy dawn
worthy star
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I still don't understand how to correlated that with the rejection of the remaster

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Where the fuck did that come from

craggy dawn
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I need eye bleach, man

worthy star
craggy dawn
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I mean, are they not already?

worthy star
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Legends in the carnivores community

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Specifically

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They are already legends in the gaming sphere

craggy dawn
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I mean, the fact that they’re even considering it should say a lot

worthy star
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Well yea

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We fucking blew up the server with carnivores votes

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We will tell our children

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Yea I voted for that

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Now play it instead of fortnite chapter 45

craggy dawn
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They will tell their grandchildren

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As Carnivores outdoes…I mean there’s not much like it now, like…Call of the Wild?

primal dove
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dude steam workshop carnivores is like a 10 year old dream for me

worthy star
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Been a dream for everyone

empty sparrow
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Also although is a trilogy, on hindsight, like it can all be on the "same game"

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like ice age is the same thing as carns2, just ya know, to the point we can mod the games to have each other animals, maps and so on

steady compass
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like a menu pops up and gives you the option of rather of c1,c2, or cia, and not one carnivores games where you can select any map or animal in one game

empty sparrow
steady compass
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could also be that too

empty sparrow
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Although if ya asked me I wouldnt mind if some of the content crossed a little more

steady compass
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like if in terms of a workshop is made could have a full conversion label

empty sparrow
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like the carns 1 content can perfectly be mixed with carns 2

steady compass
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oh definitely

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me personally you can easily make c2 and ice age into one game and have it sectioned in "regions"

empty sparrow
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heck I wouldnt mind some ice age creatures showing up in some specific maps

steady compass
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ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

empty sparrow
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archaeopteryx would work

steady compass
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ye definitely

empty sparrow
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There are certainly ways one could approach it

primal dove
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ice age could work with carni 1 and 2

empty sparrow
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On general the 3 games are pretty um, "mixable"

primal dove
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some stuff works

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some doesn't a perfect balance

empty sparrow
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Idk if people would really mind if ya could hunt triceratops on the carns 2 maps

primal dove
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with steam workshop u can just swap it out for something

empty sparrow
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Yeah some option to like, swap the games could work

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carns 2 and ice age gonna have a lot of overlap

primal dove
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carnivores 1 and 2 can be 1 game then ice age is separate

steady compass
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C1 has a more distinct style

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It has less levels of details in the texturing in comparison to c2/ia

primal dove
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think at the end of the day 3 games would make stuff easier

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1 single game is like convient for some but 3 games makes it easier to do mods and stuff

steady compass
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Personally if the discussion of putting together the games into some sort of “uni-carnivores”, I think it would be just putting pachycephalo and triceratops into c2 and having ice age’s content be unlockable after completing the main dinosaur content. Not a favourable choice tbh

empty sparrow
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I think a sort of "game swap"/"region swap" would be more logical

primal dove
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like a world map?

empty sparrow
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depends of where ya put the limit of what swaps

primal dove
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that could work really good

empty sparrow
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and again, depending of where that limit is set up, could be used for large modpacks

primal dove
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omg modpacks i would fall on my knees

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but i have hope they do the game justice

steady compass
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could i just say

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if in terms nightdive actually looks into this, and they do get into contact with tatem or the current right owners of carnivores, i hope there is some form of communication in case of the scenario of why they wont give the rights or agree to a remaster

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like in the scenario tatem or whatever says no, there is some reason shared at the very least

primal dove
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i hope so

empty sparrow
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Oh yeah would be nice to know

steady compass
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because we know what happened to the mobile ports and have very easy speculation on the remakes

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it'd be nice to at least know where this ip sort of lies

primal dove
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i do wonder how workshop modding would be like

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would people do single dinos and guns

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then u get the classics modpacks

steady compass
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well i guess if nightdive does look into workshop support, then it would be the more traditional addons and total conversions

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so you'd have the stand alone dinosaurs, guns, maps and etc releases and the total conversions that have them in a single release

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so i think it would be appropriate for single release mods and "packs"

empty sparrow
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Hmm, wonder if breaking the huntables limit would be a possibility

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But oh well, Im happy with it running properly on modern devices

primal dove
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i think so

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for breaking the hunting limit

worthy star
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I will make an example image/video on how the mods and remasters could work

primal dove
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would be so cool

half slate
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A remake would put me into catatonic shock

worthy star
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People keep using the word remake

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When honestly we don't need a remake

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Especially if mod support is a thing

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Mod creators will literally make the remakes for us

viral loom
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its a remaster

worthy star
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Exactly

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Idk why remake and remaster are so commonly flipped flopped

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To me its pretty basic

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Remake you build the game up from scratch

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You nothing from the original source

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Remaster you take a pre-existing game and make it better either with graphical updates or just better features that aren't in the original

misty nimbus
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Will remaster have modding support?

thorny reef
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i would be shocked if a potential remaster project didn't support existing mods to some extent, given how important modding has been to the comments i've seen posted these last two days

misty nimbus
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Imagine triassic mod for remaster

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That would be greatt

thorny reef
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keep in mind depending on how different some mods are, there would likely be some that aren't compatible, in the same way MyHouse isn't compatible with ND's Doom and Arcane Dimensions has too many stolen assets to be allowed in ND's Quake

graceful ermine
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i don't think we have as much as a extreme difference in ports like doom's modding scene

viral loom
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i really really hope that ND is able to remaster these classics

worthy star
bleak lichen
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Carnivores has 400 votes

gloomy knot
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Literally just hopped in because I saw Saurian Target post about this. I am so hoping this actually goes through, both in votes (although it really looks like that will) and that the owners let you. I still play the various mods but it would be nice to have the games brought into a more modern engine, maybe with the Workshop support the scrapped port had promised.

vague spade
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Woah y'all got lots of votes

regal tiger
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If it will come with new and well working editor for creatures, maps, sounds, weapons and everything, that will be dream come true.

broken sinew
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A new map editor would be so damn wonderful

gloomy knot
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Would be awesome if this went through and Poharex came back to port Triassic to it.

regal tiger
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If we get proper editors, it will allow us so much...

orchid night
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This is awesome

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But listen

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What if...

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Carnivore cityscape remaster

regal tiger
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I didn't have the luck to play it. 😦 So in a way that would be cool too toh ave a chance.

orchid night
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Cityscape would look shit even with a remaster tbh

#

Instead a remake would be more fitting

steady compass
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If the remaster does happen and doesn’t support modding in some way, we could be seeing a near to next disappearance of 20 years worth of modding.

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And I don’t know the pure extent of modding within other similar games, but carnivores is very easy to mod, because it’s purely aesthetic changes that can be combined into new entire entries, without real programming needed. That’s why workshop support wouldn’t only be necessary but should be theoretically easy, considering the most basic of mods is importing a the asset file and changing a few names in a text file.

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in actuality that’s why MEE is also suggested heavily to be somehow integrated because it is THE engine mod, it’s the only one that has new content in terms of ai and features and mostly acts as the framework for other modders to use.

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I would even dare say (not speaking for everyone here but I assume is a shared sentiment for some) that if the series gets remastered but has no form of modding capabilities even outside official support, then it would be sorta anti-climactic and arguably disappointing.

plush pewter
#

aaay we surpassed 430 votes

worthy star
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My guess

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Is that somehow we will pull of 500 votes

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Also even if mods don't make it

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Which I certainly hope they do

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Because mods are what kept this game alive this long

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But even then I'd be really happy just have these games on a modern system

cerulean sluice
#

Periodic reminder to vote for these if you want more dino games.

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Mods will be instrumental to this game tbh.

nimble siren
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I've seen a few Jurassic park games up for votes too (and voted for them), but I get the feeling universal would be less likely to play ball. As much as I'd love remasters of JPOG and Trespasser, they wouldn't want to take sales away from JWE, and Trespasser is one of their biggest failures

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Unless they do another one of those retro remaster collections that is

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Also 443 votes?????? We're in first place by a huuuuge margin now!

regal tiger
#

I have expectations from remaster. I wonder how big are expectations of all our voters that want Carnivores remastered.

cerulean sluice
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Jurassic Park lends itself to character action or horror games so well, yet we've got so few.

nimble siren
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I agree but I just don't know if universal would see it that way, they're both park builders which could be close enough for them. Would be really happy if I'm wrong tho

nimble siren
#

Also, outside of JP, I'd want a Peter jacksons king kong game remaster above anything else tbh

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That game really wouldn't even need to much remastering. Just bug fixes and a proper release on modern platforms

cerulean sluice
#

Oh same, I'd actually prefer that over JP content.

nimble siren
#

Also I'd love for a change in graphics options between PS2, Xbox360, and remaster visuals

cerulean sluice
#

I've got it running off the web recently and it's still remarkably stable on my current build so I'm not sure how much work they'd actually need to put into it.

granite edge
#

444 votes gah damn

blissful sleet
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I'd argue that even if this doesn't get remastered, the fanbase can always take on that mantle. It's worth it, because the possibilities are endless, as it does not have a fully established lore and IP, if I'm not mistaken.

granite edge
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True I guess

cerulean sluice
#

The problem is that, much like AVP2Unknown we kind of live in a legal limbo without an official re-release.

#

While I love communities coming together over modding a game, the truth is that the entire operation can be shafted by a leadership change where it's decided that not doing something with an IP is preferable to missing out on money from it being handled by the fanbase.

#

Not every company is nintendo, but they sure can become it with the wrong douchebag in charge.

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Plenty of modding projects have been shut down in this manner before.

orchid night
#

Like the fan base will create a remaster and publish it on steam on their own?

blissful sleet
cerulean sluice
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Commercial distribution is probably out of the picture then.

blissful sleet
cerulean sluice
#

It really won't be if that happens.

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Any company has as much of a right to shut down modding projects, regardless of business size or project scope.

blissful sleet
#

@cerulean sluice Who currently owns the rights to the Carnivores IP?

cerulean sluice
#

Tatem was cool with modding in 2018, and they'll continue to be cool with the way we do it until they aren't.

orchid night
cerulean sluice
#

And that can literally take a single hand over in leadership.

orchid night
#

It isn't as simple as changing a couple lines of code

cerulean sluice
#

Could be today, could be tomorrow, could be in ten years.

orchid night
#

It's something an entire team/studio can only create

cerulean sluice
#

Honestly the community at large has been doing well in doing something along those lines.

blissful sleet
#

If it’s ultimately up to Tatem, would a crowdfunding make them be more open to a remaster?

cerulean sluice
#

I don't trust them to do it at this point.

#

They've had their chance.

orchid night
cerulean sluice
#

Let Nightdive handle things.

orchid night
#

I don't think they'd mind somebody doing the job for them

desert nova
#

Or smth

cerulean sluice
#

If Nightdive reaching out to them scares them into finally finishing the Steam port, then so be it. If they let Nightdive do it, I see that as an asbolute win.

#

Although the former would arguably be worse than the latter.

orchid night
#

Nightdive should just buy the carnivores ip from them at this point

cerulean sluice
#

Maybe they can.

orchid night
#

Is dinosaur hunt still receiving updates?

desert nova
cerulean sluice
#

Not since 2019 I'd say.

#

Lemme check.

orchid night
#

They made a dlc back in like 2022

cerulean sluice
#

Oh you mean that remake garbage?

desert nova
orchid night
#

Past that I don't know whether they were really active

cerulean sluice
#

Lol

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It's not Tatem's.

desert nova
#

I personally think dinosaur hunt is fine

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Not good or bad

orchid night
cerulean sluice
#

It is bad.

desert nova
#

Its decent at max

orchid night
#

They were the ones who ported it to unity then tatem just did nothing

cerulean sluice
#

Wait what has Dreamworks to do with this?

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Don't you mean Digital Dreams?

desert nova
cerulean sluice
#

Figured.

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Lol.

orchid night
#

😹

cerulean sluice
#

Hark.

orchid night
#

All tatem did to dinosaur hunt was just slap their name on it

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Wasn't even involved

cerulean sluice
#

Yeah that they sure did.

#

Deadbeat parent moment.

desert nova
#

What is tatem even doing atp man

orchid night
desert nova
#

Its like they completely abandoned carnivores as a whole

orchid night
cerulean sluice
#

Yeah they're more concerned with mobile garbage than Carnivores.

desert nova
#

The only time when they will care about carnivores is when night dive remasters it and sells it

#

They gonna shit their pants

orchid night
#

Buy carnivores ❎
Buy tatem ✅

desert nova
cerulean sluice
#

This is legit how some companies think.

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It's fucking rancid.

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Usually that's done by leadership who doesn't have faith in their products and instead is looking to cash out on the next takeover.

mellow wharf
cerulean sluice
#

Activision-Blizzard is one of the major players who were seriously guilty of this, same with Bethsoft.

mellow wharf
#

Sony

orchid night
#

Does action forms even exist as a company

mellow wharf
#

yeah let's keeping remastering the same two TLOU games

desert nova
cerulean sluice
#

I seriously soured on TLOU because of that.

desert nova
#

Whats some game companies yall think are actually good?

cerulean sluice
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Nightdive, Valve, Rebellion to some degree.

orchid night
#

Gaben is love, gaben is life.

cerulean sluice
#

Saber Interactive is GOATed nowadays.

desert nova
orchid night
#

By the looks of origins

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Idk about that

cerulean sluice
#

Origins doesn't tell me anything.

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I don't even know what it is.

orchid night
cerulean sluice
#

We'll see.

orchid night
#

They made the game third person like ] what

cerulean sluice
#

It looks like they're leaning into the tek side of things, but I'm not sure if that's bad.

cerulean sluice
orchid night
#

I'm glad they didn't remake the original cuz only one who can do that is nightdive

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No one else

cerulean sluice
#

I do love their dino designs tho.

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They look monstrously rad which I'd expect from a different dimension.

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At this point Nightdive is one of the few companies I still trust with retro gaming full stop.

#

New Blood is pretty based too.

echo cliff
#

okay this is definetly getting a remaster, if they get the license. 👀

cerulean sluice
#

Yes.

foggy phoenix
#

how do u vote?

plucky crescent
cerulean sluice
#

Almost at 450!

jade basin
#

50 more votes huh

#

guess you all found that enclave lol

cerulean sluice
#

Seems so.

#

Saurian's prolly helped a lot of those too.

indigo geyser
#

But the models are all the same lol

frigid skiff
#

I'm really looking forward to seeing what the remakes will be like

viral loom
#

Remaster

orchid night
#

Like a week ago I was thinking about what it would be , like if nightdive nightdive remastered carnivores (I didn't know about any of this) now my dream is coming true

orchid night
#

That's what a remaster is

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Remake is something different

cerulean sluice
#

This is what the water should look like in the Carnivores remaster. Especially the third shot taken from Archipelagos works remarkably well to add extra detail without destroying the retro aesthetic. If people want shaded water and more sophisticated lighting techniques I wouldn't be against the option being added, but I'd like to be able to turn it off at the very least to get that 90's gaming feel back like we've got going on with the likes of QUAKE.

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Could even take a page out of the modders' books and add in some extra foliage like Fallen Kings and Archipelago does.

orchid night
cerulean sluice
#

Exactly.

orchid night
#

In the original it looks so bland just blue with slight noise

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It's so weird to see that especially during that time

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Games around then didn't have water that was so bland

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most of them at least that I've seen

cerulean sluice
#

Too many games make the mistake by adding water effects that just doesn't fit the retro feel of a game by adding shading techiques that just didn't exist at the time. Tatem's mobile ports are the most egregious example of this with their fully shaded and reflective water which just clashes entirely with the style of the game.

orchid night
#

Also have you seen how buggy the reflections are too

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They be tweaking the hell out sometimes

indigo geyser
#

Or asking well know modders to do new stuff

cerulean sluice
#

I'm not sure what Nightdive will decide is possible within the parameters they have to work with.

#

We'll have to see.

sage oracle
#

The only way we can save cdh is when someone buy it and start actually put some work on it

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Otherwise i dont think that it could be saved

cerulean sluice
#

We shouldn't be concerned with saving CDH.

#

We should focus on the original games and its modding scene.

sage oracle
#

Tatem and dde doesn’t deserve such a game as cool as cdh

#

They disappointed us

sage oracle
karmic token
#

I hope he's okay

sage oracle
#

I hope that too

craggy dawn
#

Wonder what Nightdive would do if they got full rights to the IP

sage oracle
#

Ooo maybe take the game to another level

#

Idk

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I actually just want the graphics to be better

#

Like the mobile one

karmic token
#

My biggest wish beyond the obvious stuff like resolution and borderless is a better main menu

sage oracle
#

And be on Morden engine

karmic token
#

With a native support for more animals and maps

sage oracle
#

Would be cool

karmic token
#

Weapons etc

viral loom
#

And full on mod support

cerulean sluice
#

Graphic options really need more work yeah.

sage oracle
#

Tes

#

Yes

cerulean sluice
#

Widescreen patches, borderless mode come to mind.

#

Full mod support.

sage oracle
#

Guys is unit engine hard to use?

karmic token
#

Full mod support is a must

sage oracle
#

Or its simple

sage oracle
viral loom
#

It's kex

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Not unity

sage oracle
#

Im talking about unity as a whole

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Ist hard to learn?

viral loom
#

Idk

karmic token
#

I think people are turning away from unity

desert nova
sage oracle
#

Oh

karmic token
#

There was some kind of drama a couple years ago

sage oracle
#

Like?

desert nova
desert nova
#

Cause unreal engine added bullshit rules to censor any single word

#

And godot is decent ig

sage oracle
#

Unity is still the best choice for me

#

I think its pretty cool tbh

#

The only problem is learning c# as u said

#

The rest is ok

desert nova
sly scarab
#

Carnivores is dope, i grew up playing carnivores ice age, id love to play it again !!

sage oracle
#

They both are cool tbh

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But i’d like a better graphic theme of it

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So

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Still wish for cdh to get alive again

karmic token
#

I personally like C1 the most

sage oracle
#

Same

desert nova
karmic token
#

It has the most prehistoric looking environments

sage oracle
#

c2 didnt add much

desert nova
#

Especially the ancient temple

sage oracle
#

So

karmic token
#

And I like those ancient ruins

sage oracle
desert nova
#

I just wish dinosaur hunt wasn’t rushed

sage oracle
#

Hope for a close announcement about the remaster

sage oracle
#

Same

desert nova
#

It had amazing potential

#

I would like to see the ancient temple in dinosaur hunt tbh

sage oracle
#

It’d be cool

#

Tbh

craggy dawn
#

I still don’t know why it was abandoned so fast besides the obvious, even still, the stalker team got out of there and they made an amazing game

sage oracle
#

Like

#

There was no purpose of it

#

This us soo disappointing

#

As I said dde and tatem doesn’t deserve cdh and the carnivores saga.

#

The only way we can save the game is by modding it or when an actual studio buy it

#

Otherwise i dont think

karmic token
#

They haven't even finished the mobile versions

sage oracle
#

That we can do anything about it

sage oracle
#

That’s really disappointing

karmic token
#

I think megeatherium and dilophosaurus were supposed to be added

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But ended up being partially finished

graceful lance
#

Yup. Dilo had everything but sounds and Mega had a uv file

sage oracle
#

There is A lot of dinos and mammals should be added

craggy dawn
sage oracle
#

But they decided to just stick with that ahh mutant thing

graceful lance
sage oracle
#

What sinking man

craggy dawn
#

Where?

sage oracle
#

They just abandoned us

sage oracle
karmic token
#

There was this gym simulator or something

sage oracle
#

And dde with mutant football

karmic token
#

Around the time when the PC ports were supposed to come out

craggy dawn
#

And when was that last updated?

karmic token
#

Like back in 2017 lol

sage oracle
#

Every time they post something about mutant

craggy dawn
#

Can’t, don’t have an account

sage oracle
#

Idk about tatem they seems that they doesnt have an account

sage oracle
#

Last update from dde on X was in 8/1/2025

#

Yeah pretty active

graceful lance
#

The last content update was 2018 with the new grass feature

sage oracle
#

Or cdh

graceful lance
#

Mobile ports

sage oracle
#

Oh

#

They did some updates

#

But it was for bugs and etc

#

The last time they added something new was in 2018 yeah

craggy dawn
#

Could also be because the carnivores team straight up just left

sage oracle
#

Tatem now is just a name

#

Dde are doing the most work

#

They brought up cdh to unity engine

#

And yeah

#

Abandoned it again

graceful lance
#

TBF stuff going on in Ukraine is also a factor

sage oracle
#

After they promised that they’ll focus on it

sage oracle
#

Ik

#

I hope they are ok

craggy dawn
#

Did their office get destroyed? I saw something about that back at the start of the war

sage oracle
#

I dunno

#

They didn’t mention

#

They are based in kiev

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And Kiev isn’t damaged

#

I think

#

I hate war

karmic token
#

There were some missile strikes I believe

sage oracle
#

Oh

#

Hope they are ok..

karmic token
#

Kiev is like in the center of the country

sage oracle
#

Ik

graceful lance
#

They also have offices in Cyprus and California

sage oracle
#

Trump said the war will come to an end

#

So did buttin said

#

He is ready to stop the war

karmic token
#

I wouldn't believe politicians

sage oracle
#

So do i

#

But putin said he will stop the war

sage oracle
#

Well

#

Guess we’ll just hope

#

For the war to stop

#

Tbh i have some faith that trump would actually do something

orchid night
sage oracle
#

He is good at making deals

sage oracle
#

I hope it isnt

orchid night
graceful ermine
orchid night
#

Tatem is cooked

#

End of story

#

So long tatem games

sage oracle
#

Hope they are ok

craggy dawn
karmic token
graceful ermine
#

i guess but that's still a rather big time frame. like we're talking more than a few years

#

we know they still had the some man power because the mobile port would receive tiny updates

jade basin
graceful ermine
#

but it was a lot of radio silence for carnivores and plenty of other mobile game projects being made regardless

karmic token
#

It's also possible that some of Tatem employees moved to different countries when the war started

sage oracle
#

Yp

#

That’s actually possible

plush pewter
#

yeah, some of the devs that i've had on my steam friends list said they've gone to other studios too

craggy dawn
#

Best thing for everyone at this point is just for DDE to sell the rights to Nightdive, what happens next I don’t know

sage oracle
#

Oh..

orchid night
#

If nightdive manages to grab the IP, carnivores is moving up in the world

karmic token
#

Let's hope they're willing to sell the rights

orchid night
#

A new era starts

plush pewter
#

regardless, Stephen is in touch with the Tatem CEO, he's mentioned before that he knows him

so who knows

desert nova
sage oracle
craggy dawn
#

I hope they don’t pull an EA and keep the rights even though they…don’t do anything with it

craggy dawn
#

No Tatem

plush pewter
#

do we know if Tatem even has it now, or is it Digital Dreams?

craggy dawn
#

I swear sometimes it feels like company CEOs love toying with fanbases

orchid night
#

What's the point

craggy dawn
#

I don’t know I ask that all the time with EA and Dead Space

orchid night
#

They got no choice

desert nova
orchid night
karmic token
#

Is anyone even playing the mobile ports?

ember granite
#

they really need to give the rights to someone else

ember granite
karmic token
#

Most fans prefer to fiddle around with the mods

#

And I think mobile animals have been ported to PC anyway

ember granite
craggy dawn
#

Begs the question, would people actually buy the carnivores remaster or would they just stick to the mods?

viral loom
#

I wonder when ND will post about about our interest for this trilogy to get remastered

ember granite
karmic token
#

If the remaster has mod support the answer is obvious I think

craggy dawn
#

I love Carnivores Legacy but man crashing in the middle of a hunt and then auditory hell makes me wanna jump off a bridge

karmic token
#

Auditory hell is the worst part

viral loom
karmic token
#

I remember when I heard it for the first time

viral loom
orchid night
#

Have y'all ever tried tabbing out of the menu it's a treat

plush pewter
#

funnily enough, for me playing this on windows 11, put the compatability to windows xp (service pack 2) ever since i did that the crashes stopped completely

desert nova
#

Lets just pray night dive doesn’t fuck it up

orchid night
ember granite
#

“what happened to him?”
“he made the mistake of alt-tabbing out of carnivores”

viral loom
#

Noodles, your pfp makes me think of those old gmod videos

orchid night
desert nova
viral loom
#

Needles then

karmic token
#

I like noodles more

orchid night
#

Sonic zombies

viral loom
desert nova
#

Absolute peak

craggy dawn
#

I don’t know if I have that option

karmic token
orchid night
craggy dawn
#

Yeah I know, but I’ve never went that far back

cerulean sluice
#

Blood is fine tbh.

#

No clue what people are doing with that one.

viral loom
#

Other than that Night Dive makes amazing remasters

karmic token
#

People complaining about it are hardcore fans

karmic token
#

They notice miniscule details and then complain about them

viral loom
#

M and n are right next to eachother

desert nova
karmic token
#

I'm still waiting for the promised System Shock 2 remaster

viral loom
#

Game development takes time

karmic token
#

It's one of the best games ever made in my opinion

orchid night
#

It has such an aesthetic bro

cerulean sluice
#

System Shock 2 and Thief are two games that we've been hoping for quite a bit.

viral loom
#

Ah yes, SS2 and it's Thief sword holding animations

orchid night
#

Why is system shock so underrated

cerulean sluice
#

It really isn't tbh.

#

It's just really niche.

karmic token
#

Thief is great, but I like SS more

orchid night
#

It should be up there with half life

karmic token
#

There are so many memorable enemies and moments

#

Like those monkeys throwing psychic blasts at you

cerulean sluice
#

I love how SS2 lets you choose your career path.

karmic token
#

First time I played SS2 I thought it takes place in the same universe as Starship Troopers because of this career choice

viral loom
cerulean sluice
#

Yes.

orchid night
#

Our hard work has paid of ladies and gentlemen

#

This is happenin

#

Oh yeah

jade basin
#

SS2 is like if peak was a videogame

karmic token
#

Let's wait for Nightdive to at least acknowledge us first lol

jade basin
#

that and Prey 2017, my favorite game ever made personally

karmic token
#

Prey was great, but I think SS2 is better

cerulean sluice
#

Prey would've been great if it wasn't named Prey.

#

Because the name really tainted its legacy.

jade basin
#

i think the name only hurts the image of the game, not the game itself

#

idk there are Prey 2017 HATERS out there and i have no clue why

karmic token
#

They're probably still salty about cancelled Prey 2

cursive kelp
#

I really hope something comes out of this

karmic token
#

Which is fine, but it's not Arkane's fault

jade basin
#

according to the Noclip doc(?) they didn't really have a name idea until Bethesda came up to them and just went "you should use the PREY name" and they didn't really object

karmic token
#

TBF Prey is kinda generic name

#

It isn't as bad as "Gun" tho

viral loom
#

I mean

#

Carnivores is named after a specific diet

karmic token
#

Fair

graceful ermine
#

we can also argue "doom"

viral loom
#

Lol

#

What other games

#

Hmmm

karmic token
#

Blood

viral loom
#

Uhhh

#

Grand theft auto kinda counts I guess?

#

Since it's the name of an actual crime

graceful ermine
#

uno
it's just spanish for one

jade basin
#

spider-man (ps4) its just the name of the character

viral loom
#

I mean

#

What else would you call it

graceful ermine
#

yea spider-man is a character name so it doesn't count in this argument

karmic token
#

Not a single word, but I'd say Black & White also counts

#

It's generic enough

#

Fable as well

worthy star
#

Basically half way in votes

#

Crazy

indigo geyser
#

For how long will the voting last

worthy star
#

Forever basically

viral loom
#

We have enough votes for ND to atleast notice

#

We just have to wait and see what's next

worthy star
#

Until then games get a possible remaster

#

And the forum gets taken down

viral loom
#

Iirc it gets archived

#

Idr tho

#

But either way

#

I'm really bloody excited

#

The only thing I'm excited about this week because I'm not happy about going back to school

karmic token
#

Let's go for 1000 votes!

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We might achieve 500 until tomorrow

prisma oyster
viral loom
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Huh?

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the word "doom" is not a type of pain?

karmic token
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Pain of getting obliterated by Archvile

viral loom
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Is that Gojira in the chat?

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doom is what happens when you cheat on your gf

kind karma
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Yes Gojira is in the chat

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Which means I have to fight him

prisma oyster
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But one is actually gojira (the Japanese name)

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Mecha goji has a gay laser/j

prisma oyster
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King Caesar

thorny reef
# viral loom Iirc it gets archived

We (moderator team) add a tag called "nds achieved" but we haven't actually locked any of the games that have been released since this version of the request forum started. We're certainly not deleting the entry, as the devs might want to look through it and gauge the fan desires

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Idk why I always wondered if his eye beams tasted Ike these

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I trust you rn since you're pretty close to ND as a moderator

prisma oyster
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I see it very even, in some comics Hulk is multiversal, he can regenerate and heal quickly, and the angrier he gets, the stronger he is.

viral loom
thorny reef
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i'm very happi

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Even though its a little lesser, I’d still love if Carnivores: Cityscape was included in the serieswide remaster

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Its a completely different game from the trilogy

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In almost every aspect

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it would have to be completely seperate since i think the trilogy would be like those remaster collections in one game sorta thing

worthy star
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Doesn't mean we don't want it

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Just isn't part of this forum

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I never really considered Citiscape to be a part of the main canon

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it sorta is?

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I just assumed series meant franchise

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Aesthetic wise it has much more in common with primal prey

viral loom
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But it would be ideal if it was one Exe