avatar-help

[echo quiver]

what do i do? I can't find what's wrong.

is there a way to reset the shading to default?

[round comet]

You could probably reset the settings, yes! Its most likely an issue with your lighting type like Kazin mentioned

I think that’s why he was questioning what setting you had it set to

[echo quiver]

i said multilayer math

[round comet]

multiplayer math, alright

I don’t personally use that so I’m unsure. I can always take a peak at poiyomi in unity

Easier when a project’s in front of me

[echo quiver]

what do you use?

i'll try it

[round comet]

Try clicking the tree dots and resetting on the lighting type, yeye

[echo quiver]

i did

[round comet]

Alrighty. You may also wanna peep your Light Data and mess with that if it isn’t consistent

Sometimes they can differ for whatever reason

[echo quiver]

i'll change it to flat

[round comet]

Alrighty ^^

[echo quiver]

and i'll test it

much better, thank you!

so what about angle limiters?

[ebon knoll]

what could be the reason for visemes not working in game?

[obtuse trail]

There are a few reasons. One could be having a separate head mesh from the main avatar root (where the avatar descriptor is).

[minor trail]

Fixing this breaks my face

It causes this

How it's supposed to be

[round comet]

Whats the difference :o

OH

They eyebrows

[minor trail]

The eyes and mouth too

[round comet]

Did you do this in blender

[minor trail]

Unity

[minor trail]

It's caused by this

[round comet]

Ok so the whole project is unity

You’ll have to click on the head fbx and adjust the settings

[minor trail]

Do I change the blendshape normals to import instead of calculate??

[round comet]

I personally check legacy blendshapes then do calculate + unweighted but try import. Probably less taxxing

[minor trail]

Checking legacy blendshapes is what caused it though..

[round comet]

It needs to be on I’m pretty sure

[minor trail]

It breaks it

OH

Setting the normal to calculate fixed it????

Instead of import

[round comet]

Awesomesauce

Whatever works!

You’re probs gonna get scam dms which is why it was deleted

Its so you don’t get solicited or hacked

Better off not advertising in here

[whole ivy]

hi! i came here a few hours ago with different issues

ive downloaded the fury ting i was told but now this is my issue

[steep coyote]

im needing someone to import my rec room outfit in vrchat

i have the 3d file already im just needing someone to import it

and do some things with it

(If you are willing to please DM me)

[round comet]

dawg pls stop reposting

[steep coyote]

im fixing some stuff

with it

because it wont let me edit it for some reason

[round comet]

youre gonna get scam dms either way

you just need the outfit to be a .fbx and you can import it into unity or put it on an avi in blender

[round comet]

seems like an error with the eye shaders! You could hypothetically change the eye material to be poiyomi shaders, though I'm not sure how good it'd look

I'm not familiar with what shader this is, so I'm unsure of how to read this error ngl

[whole ivy]

is poiyomi like a matte texture?

[round comet]

poiyomi is a shader type

[whole ivy]

ive been at this for so long i just dont care for the eyes anymore lmfao

[round comet]

all good lol

[whole ivy]

i appreciate ur help fury was def a lot of help

[round comet]

you need to find the eye material and change it to poiyomi ^^

[round comet]

yeah usually if its a missing script its vrcfury

[ebon knoll]

the head and body are a singular mesh and that's the "body" mesh in the slot in the picture
any other ideas?

[round comet]

all the slots have a blendshape? if something is set to none it can also prevent lip syncing from functioning

[obtuse trail]

Toggles and gesture expressions can be made to disable visemes. Got any of those?

[ebon knoll]

yea all the slots are filled with the matching blendshape

[ebon knoll]

i don't have any toggle or gesture that disables them no

i think i remember something about the first blendshape of the models need to be in some order?

[round comet]

[ebon knoll]

this is how it came with the head idk if that's fine?

[obtuse trail]

Maybe at some point. Not anymore afaik

[ebon knoll]

oh alright, yea a while ago i remember it needed to be in some order i think

[obtuse trail]

if you wish, we could vc and screenshare

[ebon knoll]

i noticed the jaw bone is set to the wrong thing

is it related

[round comet]

you usually dont need a jaw bone

that may be your issue, just set that to "none" rather than any specific bone

[ebon knoll]

yea i remembered something about that too so i went to check

it had a hair bone in its' slot for some reason

[round comet]

smart catch

yeah, it usually just tosses a random bone in by default

[ebon knoll]

awesome, assuming it works now, gonna give it a test
thanks 🙏

[round comet]

all good :P you did all the work there

[sharp oasis]

Is it possible to recreate an IK kind of movement with a part of the avi?
I want a toggle that would snap the tail to the hand and follow the hand. Any constraint magic or something I could do to manage this?

[somber sequoia]

Constraints, or if needed, FinalIK can work

that seems like constraints though

[sharp oasis]

Forgot about finalIK. Though I'll experiment with some constraints.
Mainly wanted to know if it would be possible or if making something that is usually existing by itself follow something else would be impossible

[shrewd finch]

Is there like a- big ol registry somewhere of just- every guide one could ever need for additional avatar functions? Like- gun shoot stuff. Or programming (god I hope programming will be minimal when I do this)

If anyone knows- please ping me

[somber sequoia]

there's more than one way to do most things though

[shrewd finch]

Probably yes

[lilac musk]

No real programming with avatars. Just state machines.

[somber sequoia]

I wish programming were not "minimal" 🙂

[ebon knoll]

surprising, still not working 🤧

[round comet]

you made sure the jaw bone slot was empty and applied? D:

[ebon knoll]

yea i went back there it's still set to none

weird

[shrewd finch]

Thank god

[sharp oasis]

Only "programming" for avis is just the transitions with IFs and parameters

If button on, turn this thing on. That stuff

[obtuse trail]

do the shape keys work? go to the body object and slide them to test.

[ebon knoll]

yea they work

[winged dirge]

Hello, id like to throw my hat in and see if I can help. What's your issue?

[ebon knoll]

visemes not working in game, they work in unity, i have every viseme slotted in with the right mesh applied, jaw bone set to none

all i got so far, thinking what else it can be

[winged dirge]

Hmmm okay. Im guessing you've checked to see if theirs animations overriding it. Do you have an animator in the gesture slot?

Here's something that might be causing it. What are the visemes names?

[ebon knoll]

there is an animator in the gesture slot

what about it can be set up to mess up the visemes?

[winged dirge]

Vismes as far as I remember need to be named specific names. It might be worth a try to name them in blender the same as in this guide Visemes - VRChat Wiki https://share.google/aWGTLVD8c8Rl2b3lA

[ebon knoll]

i'll give that a try rn 🫡

[winged dirge]

I hope it works!

[fluid sonnet]

anyone know why the eyes dont move at all in game?

[ebon knoll]

actually i have another model that does have working visemes with the same names so it's probably not that 🤔 ?

gonna see if i can compare some settings to see why it works on that one and not mine

[winged dirge]

Darn I hoped that work.

[ebon knoll]

i could still try but weird that the same names work on a different avatar (from 3 years ago tho)

the only main difference i see is the blendshape order

this is on the avi that works

ill give the rename a try maybe they changed something

[somber sequoia]

names are irrelevant, but it'll auto-fill them if the names are standard-ish

[winged dirge]

Thanks

Hmmmm the only thing im thinking of is if the mesh is read write enabled? But im pretty sure you cant upload a avatar without that being enabled.

[ebon knoll]

it is, it's meant to be off?

[winged dirge]

No it must be on! Thats how vrchat makes changes to the model. Like I said I think it is turned on automatically when uploaded.

[ebon knoll]

oh read that wrong

[winged dirge]

Your all good

[ebon knoll]

also, i changed names and put some from the top to below the vrc ones

[winged dirge]

That might fix it, or the reimport might have changed a setting. Either way, worth a try!

[ebon knoll]

and the visemes somehow are working now, mouth is left open though and opens more if i look down or up

🤔

[somber sequoia]

the order doesn't matter so long as they're in the right slots in the descriptor

[ebon knoll]

not sure what changed but i changed names and the none-vrc blendshapes at the top i put below the vrc ones

and it works with the issues i mentioned

[winged dirge]

Does the jaw have a bone?

[ebon knoll]

nope

[winged dirge]

Oh dear. No idea why the jaws open then.

Is the mouth completely driven by visemes?

[ebon knoll]

found it, crossing my fingers this was the last thing

changing the visemes changed the eyelids look down and up to "aa" shapekey

[winged dirge]

Aa

[fluid sonnet]

@winged dirge wait no way

[winged dirge]

Here's hoping.

!

[fluid sonnet]

aint seen you in ages

[winged dirge]

Im alive!

[fluid sonnet]

done porting yakuza to bonelab so now im porting it to vrc

[ebon knoll]

everything finally works, thanks for helping
i assume it was the shapekeys order? there was 5 non-visemes shapekeys at the top, i moved them below the vrc ones and renamed the vrc ones to "aa" "oh" etc

at least 3+ years back i remember there was something about the order of shapekeys, where the vrc ones needed to be at the top

[winged dirge]

Niiiiiiiiiice

[winged dirge]

Fantastic!

I might have been names but more likely the order.

[somber sequoia]

not one of my avatars has visemes at the top. I put the eyelid stuff there 'cause otherwise I might mis-order things and forget about it. That one is done based on position.

(so annoying)

[dim gazelle]

Im not sure im still learning on how to make things on quest and I dont understand any of this

[blazing nacelle]

when uploading an avatar project,would it better for the project to be on HDD or SSD? Or does it not affect at all?

[wanton cedar]

should i parent constraint the two shortest bones (drawn in pink) to the upper arm and chest so it doesnt just collapse in weirdly? Im making a poncho

[somber sequoia]

not sure why you'd need a constraint there, just make them children

[wanton cedar]

Last time I tried it kinda crunched weirdly

[somber sequoia]

better weight paint

a constraint won't really get you anything different, unless it's like very far from the parent bone or something

[obtuse trail]

will the poncho have physbones?

[wanton cedar]

Yes

[obtuse trail]

Parent the poncho arms to the upper arms. Spread the poncho mesh out and use physbone gravity to bring it down.

[somber sequoia]

exactly what I'd start wtih

[wanton cedar]

So like the first 2 or 3 bones and leave the ones further back alone?

[somber sequoia]

by alone, what do you mean?

[wanton cedar]

Dont parent them to the arms

[somber sequoia]

so instead what's their parent?

[wanton cedar]

chest

[somber sequoia]

Yes.

[obtuse trail]

maybe something like this

[somber sequoia]

hmm yeah you could try using the shoulder

[wanton cedar]

I'll try that, thank you

[lofty ferry]

Does anyone know why locally thumbs can look broken but remotely, they look fine to others?
(Front hand is my hand, back hand is my friends hand, both index controllers, same avatar)

[karmic light]

Can anyone log in to my account and make me an avatar of my choice I’ll give anything but not weird or cash

[bronze karma]

That is not really allowed. And if the account of the person that login into yours gets banned then you too can be possible banned

Also you only get scammers in your dms.

[somber sequoia]

Also weird idea of payment.

[somber osprey]

why is this icon image fully white?

[ornate stump]

Because it wasn't set "Alpha is Transparent" in its import settings.

[somber osprey]

oh. thank you

[gentle iris]

anyone able to help me get the outfit working?

[proven quail]

when coming to the help channel, its best to try yourself and then come here with the specific problem or thing that is not working.

[gentle iris]

i have tried, i followed a tutorial on how to do it and didnt work

i cant figure out how to make it work with my avatar

[ornate stump]

Which tutorial exactly?

[ornate stump]

You should be posting the link to that video. Do you spot somewhere in the process that might be wrong?

Especially when some message show up telling you something is wrong?

[gentle iris]

i didnt get a message in unity about anything being wrong

[ornate stump]

Screenshot how you set the armature link component. Screenshot the entire unity screen.

Do not crop.

[ornate stump]

You put the armature link component in the wrong object.

[gentle iris]

oh

[teal laurel]

I think you need to put the hip bone to the hip bone of the asset

Or chose another bone it should attach itself to

[ornate stump]

Actually no. The problem is the bone names don't match with the avatar bones.

[teal laurel]

I mean aa long as it has one bone linked to the hip it should be fine right?

It might clip with the legs though

🤷

[ornate stump]

The spine has been put as a new bone instead of merging.

[gentle iris]

how would i fix that?

[ornate stump]

Rename cloth bones to match with avatar bones.

[gentle iris]

ok

so i would rename the pelvis to hip?

[ornate stump]

Not necessary because it's already working as a root.

[gentle iris]

what bones should i rename?

[ornate stump]

Humanoid bones.

[gentle iris]

ok

[half swift]

So in Blender, everything works just fine, but once in Unity, a lot of the BlendShapes suddenly just have these little hicks on them, like the top lip for the 'vrc_aa' not fully doing what the Blender looks like, and the rest of the BlendShapes in Unity do the same.

Not fully sure what I'm missed or did?

[austere pivot]

What’s the hair asset? it looks cutee

[wanton cedar]

Maybe try turning one shape key on one by one or checking which are active. There might be a shape key that's active and pulling that area down. Possible you accidentally made that transformation in another key

[half swift]

Sadly all shape Keys are at 0, an is effecting all shape Keys only in Unity, making the mech look all jagged around the area of the Shape Key that I turn up, and I have Legacy Blendshaps checked on the fbx as well.

[balmy barn]

physbone is animated ?

[obtuse trail]

you can edit the preview anim? How??? 👀

[balmy barn]

just have one before avatar is initilizied (so cant spell that)

[vivid spear]

so i might've messed up my avatar's hands, my problem is that only the right hand does the gestures. I mean normal, hand gestures not anything to due with expressions. the left hand just copies what the right does, not a controller issue (checked with other avis and they seem fine)

[balmy barn]

then you end up with something like that (very old)

its gonna be very stiff cause nothing ready

[quasi tinsel]

Still didn’t do anything sadly

[glass condor]

Hey I made an fbx with two head bones (for a plugin to work properly). I noticed that the view descripter 'ball' is missing on this double head model. (first pic) In the second pic, this is where the view descripter ball is on a model without the double head. Is the lack of the view descriptor ball a bad thing? I can move the View Position like normal, and I see the tiny gray orb that signals where the face is, but the positioning orb is gone, unlike the seconf pic. Is this important and will my first pic model break because of this?

[somber sequoia]

doesn't matter of the ball is visible or not, it's just the location you're concerned with

[glass condor]

Ok, good

[torn trellis]

how do i fix this ive tried damn near everything to stop this issue

[somber sequoia]

hard to tell what it is from there, maybe bad weight paint, maybe a bone moving weirdly

[wintry ledge]

A friend is making a mini simple shaped animal for me in blender and they might rig it,how do they export it as a unity package?

[somber sequoia]

from blender? You don't, just export as .fbx

[wintry ledge]

so they just send me the fbx thingy and i can slap it into unity?

[somber sequoia]

You can import it into Unity and set it up like any model

If they are going to do the unity setup for you, then sure, they could export a unitypackage from there

[wintry ledge]

unity setup?

[somber sequoia]

ever done this before?

There are lots of tutorial videos, such as this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSwMz4WcajQ

[wintry ledge]

nah,he said he never exported stuff to unity so

[wintry ledge]

ah well,its not gonna be an avatar,but rather a prop or follower

[somber sequoia]

okay then just import it into Unity

[wintry ledge]

alrighty!

[glass condor]

So remember how I mentioned that I had a secondary head on my model now? I think it's causing my other head bone to collide with it, because my character's head is INSANELY wobbly like a bobblehead now.

Any ideas on how to fix?

[somber sequoia]

don't put a physbone on your head

[glass condor]

There's no physbone

[somber sequoia]

not sure what would be colliding then

[glass condor]

The only possible suggestion I have are these probably causing issues (the first is on the add-on for the plugin I mentioned earlier, the second pic is the second head's components that the instructions told me to add)

[somber sequoia]

where are those components placed?

[glass condor]

If necessary tho, I can DM you the pdf instructions if you want to see it for yourself.

[pine valley]

are you using a voice-hiding gimmick here? i'm familiar with that setup

[glass condor]

the first is on the VoicePivot, which is attached under the Head. The second is attached to RealHead at the verrrry bottom

[glass condor]

Yeah, it's Mortugue's animal speech thingy

it hides your voice so that only other ppl with the avi can hear you

RealHead and Head are both attached to the neck bone

As instructed

[pine valley]

("RealHead" is the humanoid head bone, with no deformation; "Head" does the deformation and is constrained to match its rotation)

[glass condor]

Uhh does that mean I goofed somewhere...?

[pine valley]

no, i'm just explaining the setup for those who might not be familiar

[glass condor]

Oh

[pine valley]

so, barring physbones, bones can't "collide"

they don't just do that on their own

unfold all of the settings for the rotation constraint

[quasi tinsel]

fbx transfer not visible when transferfrom blender to unity

[pine valley]

i want to see how it's configured

[glass condor]

Like, you want the screenshot of the rotation constraint with everything visible right?

[pine valley]

drag a new copy of the model into the scene

[pine valley]

yep

[pine valley]

this could be an issue with the scale of the exported model

[quasi tinsel]

ok

[glass condor]

Wait hold up

[pine valley]

okay, that looks fine

i'm confused by the head chop

oh, nvm

that's targeting "Head", not "RealHead"

[glass condor]

apparently its to prevent the head from being stuck in the other

[pine valley]

when do you observe the movement? does it happen in Unity?

[pine valley]

it prevents your visible head from getting in the way of your camera

[glass condor]

oh no, it happens in vrc

[pine valley]

VRC will, by default, shrink your humanoid head bone down

but that doesn't help here, because your visible head is deformed by a different bone

hence the head chop

[glass condor]

yeah its only when i move in actual Vrchat. Should probably mention that Im in PCVR, so idk if that does anything lol

[pine valley]

note that if anything else is trying to control the head bone – e.g. a physbone – you could have issues

[glass condor]

yeahhh thats the weird part. This avatar has NO physbones at all 0-0

[pine valley]

to prove that it isn't, search the hierarchy for t:vrcphysbone

that'll rule that out

[pine valley]

one thing that confuses me a bit – should you be rotation-constraining the "head" bone, not the "VoicePivot" bone?

presumably the "head" bone is the one that visibly rotates your head

[glass condor]

🤷‍♂️ No physbones?

[glass condor]

hmm

[pine valley]

typically you'd set it up like this:

• Neck
  • Visible Head <-- deforms the mesh, rotation-constrained to follow Voice Head
  • Voice Head <-- no deformation, is the humanoid head bone, position-constrained

[glass condor]

I JUST noticed that too, let me investigate rq

could that mess with the head so that it wobbles in VRC?

[pine valley]

I'd expect this to cause your head to not rotate at all

[glass condor]

0.0 Hmm let me upload to vrc and see if that was the reason

[glass condor]

Omg it fixed. Thank you so much!?! The tutorial forgot to mention that the menus switch back to the Head at that part!

Turns out I just stuck the rotation constraint and the head chop on the wrong area, it's supposed to be the Head and not on Voice Pivot😂 😭

You guys are awesome, especially you!

[wary whale]

so when i try testing my avatar it just sorta.. launches into orbit??? i have legit never seen this, im pretty baffled

everything else on it works absolutely fine, im just scared to upload it right now

[somber sequoia]

feature, or bug? Hmm.....

[wary whale]

id say a bug since if i try wearing it in game it'll be about 3000 feet above me 😭

the root bone is at position 0, the parent is at 0, the main damn avatar is at 0

i really dont wanna give this up since it was going so well untill that

trying to check the console, and this is all i got

googled it, and there aint anyhting. i might be cooked

[obtuse trail]

does it have physbones?

[wary whale]

nope, not a one

[obtuse trail]

it the root model from an fbx file?

[wary whale]

i belive so?

its an FBX im turning into an avi straight from Space Marine 2

[obtuse trail]

did you go through Blender or other 3d program at any point?

[wary whale]

just one, to get the model out

[obtuse trail]

did you check what size the model was in the 3D space? I am thinking it has something to do with that.

[wary whale]

would that cause that many issues?

[obtuse trail]

well it might be ridiculously huge, for one. but thats just a guess.

[wary whale]

you may be right. i had to scale it up to like, 100 just to make it work in unity

[somber sequoia]

if you're having to scale to 100 you should re-export from Blender with "apply scalings" set to "FBX All"

[obtuse trail]

well you might have to "set" the scale in the 3d app before passing it in unity.

Like if you want the model to be 8ft and thats 100x what the model was from the game file, then you set the scaling so that 8ft is now the default 1x size.

In blender its "Apply Scale"

[wary whale]

ill give that a shot

[obtuse trail]

are you using Blender?

[obtuse trail]

if so, you can see the size of the avatar here on the properties panel (shortcut N)

[silver willow]

Hey can someone please help me with contact receivers not working tried watching more than one video on it to get it to work but nothing works

[somber sequoia]

that's what here and #avatar-dynamics are for.

[astral locust]

Is it possible to do it in VRC so that when someone touches a contact, Bone snaps to its collider?

[timber wharf]

theres contact tracking prefab to track any generic collider (well, rather contact sender but theyre kinda interchangeable for stuff that can touch bones on a remote avatar). no physbones tho

[silver willow]

Ok do you know what could be messing it up?

[somber sequoia]

you haven't provided any details, so nope, no idea

[somber sequoia]

(that was a hint - if you want help, explain what you are doing and what about it is not working)

[glass condor]

Don't mean to bother you, but uhhh everything is correct now, yet the voice doesn't work. As in, everyone can hear me as a normal voice still, even when toggled on. Any familiarity with issues like that?

[dark isle]

Does anyone know what I would do to change the color of the outline on my kipfel? It changes automatically when I use the color adjuster on the hair material, but it becomes lighter when I make the hair darker, and I'd like the outline to be darker instead

[somber sequoia]

How does the adjustor work?

[fierce fiber]

Could someone come and help me when available?

https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1501723761550823468

[dark isle]

Just the built in thing in unity

[somber sequoia]

that ^ is not at all built-in, it's a UI from some shader which you haven't specified

[torn trellis]

sorry for not responding sooner but it works just fine in unity and blender

[dark isle]

oh, it's liltoon then, I've only used that shader so I thought a color adjuster was part of unity

[somber sequoia]

then it's an animation causing it

[somber sequoia]

well if you have an animation that can change this either disable it and set the value how you want, or change the colors the animation uses - you'd have to go figure out how it works

[torn trellis]

it dosent have any animations literally all the dress has is a vrc fury object toggle and a blendshape link

[somber sequoia]

ah, I don't use those Fury components so probably can't help further.

[torn trellis]

ok ill try using no vrcfury and see if that fixes it

[somber sequoia]

note that I didn't mean to suggest that

[torn trellis]

oh ok well im still gonna try

[ocean glen]

So my avatar's chest is where my hand is and the rig is messed up. does anyone know how to fix this?

This is for a custom Zinpia VRfurbase I imported back to unity after resculpting it

[somber sequoia]

can't tell what you mean by messed up from that pic

[ocean glen]

So they are touching their chest IRL, but in game its in from of their chest floating

Idk why its so broken.

@somber sequoia

[somber sequoia]

I'm right here, no need to ping me

Same answer though, there's nothing I can tell you from that pic

do you use full body tracking?

looks like bad calibration, depending on what's in use

okay.

[ocean glen]

Its fbt, every model works besides this one.

[spare orbit]

Idk if I should put it here but i really need an animation walk, run, jump for my vrchat avatar, i'm using the mimicmyth two time but it has NO animation

[ocean glen]

I'll pay someone if they can fix my avatar.

[fluid sonnet]

My avatars eyes do not move at all despite being set up correctly

@wary whale oh hello

[valid marsh]

I tried using the ai support for this, but it didn't help. I'm trying to make physbones for an apron but they won't collide with the physbone colliders I set up on the legs. They are set up correctly in the colliders section, but when I try to test them only the root physbone ever collides, not the children. Is it possible to make the children collide with the physbone colliders?

[somber sequoia]

ok well maybe show the rig or some more detail

[somber sequoia]

mixamo.com has lots of animations like that

[dusky lance]

Is there a topic for asking people to upload an avi for you or no?

[fluid sonnet]

my eyes are completely static in game for some reason?

[somber sequoia]

it's generally a bad idea all around, so nope, not here.

[fluid sonnet]

anyone know what it might be?

[molten linden]

How do I remove the shirt completely?

I wanted it to be bare skin showing, but I’m not sure. I just know I wanna get rid of the shirt.

[somber sequoia]

like, delete it? select all of the mesh, 'x' to delete

[molten linden]

Like when I go to select just a shirt, it catches other parts like the neck and the arms. I don’t want to delete that. I just wanted to delete the main part and hopefully I can finally like maybe a torso file to download somewhere. I’m not sure this is basically me taking a VROID. Shitty anime and trying to redo it basically

But I’m completely fresh at blender

But I have done some stuff in here already like bringing in other things because of like ChatGPT

[valid marsh]

try and press L while hovering over the shirt if you havent

[somber sequoia]

ah vroids are annoying. But you could try to select faces and hit 'l' to see how much it selects as linked

[tulip kernel]

bro bro try this

[somber sequoia]

or you could mark seams and then select everything linked using seams as the borders

[sage garnet]

uh wrong thing i was trying to ask for help in unity not in vrc

[molten linden]

Hello

[sage garnet]

and i got it sorted out already i said

[tulip kernel]

ooohohh ok ok

[somber sequoia]

Or, you could hide stuff you don't want to select with 'h' (alt-h to unhide)

[molten linden]

I just wanted the shirt off because I was going to figure out how to put a torso there and tattoo it like you know anime type of thing but I’m also super fresh to this. I just wanna take the shirt completely off. I believe that it was combined with the character so I don’t believe there’s actually a body under there, but I’m not too sure.

[somber sequoia]

depends on your vroid export settings - usually there is mesh but it's transparent.

[somber sequoia]

nothing looks wrong there

[valid marsh]

really need help with this if possible 🥺

[ocean glen]

does moving the armature bone in the hierarchy break the avatar?

[molten linden]

So how i remove it

[somber sequoia]

show your physbone component

[somber sequoia]

as I said, 'x' deletes things

[somber sequoia]

you should not be trying to edit the armature in Unity

[somber sequoia]

Looks reasonable to me

[molten linden]

When I hit x

[ocean glen]

What else could be jolting tbe avatar backwards?

[somber sequoia]

Yes? do a blender tutorial. Pick a thing you want to delete.

[molten linden]

Thank u

[somber sequoia]

Seriously though - blender tutorial. It opens up a world of possibilities.

[valid marsh]

is it normal for only the roots of the physbone chains to collide?

or are the children also supposed to collide

because thats what i need

[molten linden]

I’m sure I just been working on his car for three days. I wanna figure out how to put a body on it. Put some tattoos on it. Couple little effects and get it in the game.

That’s why I was looking for someone to help me rather than talking on a video. I learned a little different and I’m like trying my best here. lol

[somber sequoia]

the children ought to collide - you should be able to see collision radius on the whole chain

[molten linden]

Should I make a body or try to just put something there?

[valid marsh]

had to turn off limits to give it a clear view, but yes, they are visible

[ocean glen]

I need someone to fix my avatar

Found the fix, the view was fucked

[somber sequoia]

ooh that'd do it

I didn't think to check that

[molten linden]

Anybody know where I can get a replacement body

[proven quail]

Like booth maybe? You could get rid of the arms and legs and just go for using a booth base like Kanata or something https://booth.pm/en/items/6813995

[somber sequoia]

You could make one in vroid...

[wanton cedar]

sighhh

[valid marsh]

so is there a fix you know of? pretty confused rn

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what the issue is so don't really have a fix

[valid marsh]

alright

to clarify, i can just put physbone colliders on the actual bones, right? they dont have to be on an empty gameobject?

[molten linden]

Is there a way for me to remove the clothes from vroid

[somber sequoia]

no, you can put physbone colliders on bones, I often do on my major limb bones

[valid marsh]

alright, good because that is what im doing

[somber sequoia]

good for interacting with hair or clothing parts

upper arms colliding with boobs, etc.

[ocean glen]

Well its still broken

even when I move the view back it still acts like I haven't change it

[glass condor]

Anyone familiar with Mortugues Animal Speak

I'm having issues with that

Despite all troubleshooting, the secret voice doesn't work

[valid marsh]

coming back here once more, setting the child type to Average made them collider, but now the issue is that they still pass through the colliders easily, like they get pushed a bit and then return to normal

[somber sequoia]

you trying to do a skirt?

[valid marsh]

apron

[somber sequoia]

close enough - I've found that colliders aren't a great way to do this

[valid marsh]

how do i do it then?

[somber sequoia]

yeah, that's the question

[valid marsh]

mmm

[somber sequoia]

some combination of colliders, limiters, and maybe rotation constraints... and luck

[valid marsh]

something that is probably influential - this is a fully animated avatar and not a Humanoid one, but ill try and expirement with different things

[somber sequoia]

there are lots of tutorial videos that are ... okay. I'm still not happy with any of my own attempts at skirts or long coats. It's frustrating.

[civic sinew]

heyo, can somone help me with seperating the outfits on the biggiefry shidou model in blender?

[valid marsh]

managed to get something good enough

thanks

[civic sinew]

whenever i try i get this message

????

[molten linden]

I just need someone that’s good at blender that could hop on a discord call with me view my screen and tell me the things I need to do so I can zoom through this. I’ve been doing this shit like three or four days.

[echo loom]

how do i get this to stop happening

[civic sinew]

???

[arctic dune]

I'm setting up a new avatar base~

I really like to keep things simple and use the 'AV3 Hand Layer" in the SDK to just control a few expressions with the right hand (at least for while i'm getting used to the avatar)

Is there any similar "barebones" FX layer I can use that has 'blink protection' for write defaults? (blinking while eyes already closed) or is that something I could write myself?

[teal laurel]

I wouls just steal the setup form an avatar that already has it. For example my nardoragon has it

[molten linden]

Does anybody know where I can get some cargo shorts?

[teal laurel]

You can buy assets on jinxy, gumroad, booth etc

[molten linden]

Nah free bro

Brokeyyyy

[teal laurel]

Gl

Sometimes there ia free stuff but ye

[molten linden]

Slowly

[teal laurel]

Make your own, go to the high seas ARRRRR, or buy them

[molten linden]

I’m still new with this

Just hoping to get some free clothing files turn it into a 2-D anime type of look skin. The color out doesn’t tattoos on. I’m just trying to make a basic nice character you know with some decent features.

[teal laurel]

When i started out, i stuck to the Nardoragon model, as it had lots of assets. Paid, and free. Then i modified it heavily and learned how to put stuff on it in blender and such.
Thats way easier that starting from 0 in blender

But up to you how you do it.
I couldn't start with blender lol.

[molten linden]

U use blender now !

Could someone to share me some cool clothes files possibly

[woeful dagger]

can anyone help me with avatar uploading, my toggles are not uploading with the avatar

[ornate stump]

You have to explain more detail.

[gaunt knoll]

Either you don't have any or you don't know how to do it properly

[woeful dagger]

i am new to it so i would say the second option

i dmed irumi and told em whats going on but they havent responded so

[gaunt knoll]

Yes because they help here so other people can help you it's not a DM server

[woeful dagger]

i see the toggle menus and everything for it, its like it not attached to the avatar

[woeful dagger]

ah okay

heres a screenshot though

[ornate stump]

I don't help in dm, first and foremost..

[woeful dagger]

ah okay

mb

[ornate stump]

And secondly, I don't promise that I will be able to help you, purely because I had no idea what the detail of your issue is. So I inquired you to provide more detail about your problem first.

[wanton cedar]

Did someone help you with this?

[woeful dagger]

basically, i uploaded this avatar, its the quest version and it should have toggles for clothing and all that but when i went to go check it didnt have em, then i read things need to be synced so i made sure they where, so now im assuming i need to upload the PC version for it to sync? idk

[ornate stump]

"Quest Conversion" usually is the toned down version of the avatar with multiple features removed to fit within Quest limitation.

[woeful dagger]

yea i know that, i am a quest user myself lol

my friend was doing toggles though as well so

with the same avatar

[ornate stump]

They might be editing PC version to fit Quest limitation by themselves.

[woeful dagger]

shit

yea im still learning the ropes to all this as well so

[ornate stump]

It's also as well that you misunderstood something. The whole situation wasn't well explained yet.

[woeful dagger]

its not?

what am i missing

[ornate stump]

If you're seeing your friend can do toggles while you're in Quest, it might actaully be the edited version of it. You could try editing the PC version, and as well ask your friend how they did it.

[woeful dagger]

okay i can try

[lean wolf]

have this issue ive desperately been trying to fix for hours now with no luck at at all where the legs of my avatar will randomly spazz out,ive tried readjusting the pose several times,reparenting the bones,remaking the entire project,even testing the model bare bones before hand to make sure the legs didnt mess up, and it all just keep coming up with the same issue

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/817288804653203476/1501765254856708136/20260507-0157-59.4620253.mp4?ex=69fd4362&is=69fbf1e2&hm=f720b6953882a972316f8dcff594192eb6d7c6ab9abe9cf460a7de75aa20bd06&

better example

[echo loom]

No:(

[wanton cedar]

Does she have bones for thighs?

Might be a shapekey getting turned on and off. that's normal for cat's

[uneven bough]

any help? my avatar isn't disabled

[ornate stump]

Screenshot entire unity screen instead.

[uneven bough]

never mind i got that fixed just had to fiddle around some more, but since you're here u remember how u helped me make the audio my avatar plays scale with it's size? well that stopped working after i brought my avatars that have that into a new project, i still have the audio scale animation, think u could help with that again?

[ornate stump]

You would have to try to recall the procedure then come back when you got stuck again.

[uneven bough]

i have no idea how it broke i just imported everything

[ornate stump]

Then test with gesture manager and see if the range slider in the spatial component can be moved by you or not.

[uneven bough]

u mean the spatial audio source script in the inspector?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[uneven bough]

by slider do u just mean any of the settings?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[uneven bough]

so just see if i can change a number in it's settings cause there's no sliders

[echo loom]

so its a shapkey but idk how to basically stop the shape key from changing the body when i gose into pose mode

[wanton cedar]

Is it active before you hit pose mode?

If im right, when you hit stop pose, it's going to turn the shape key off

[echo loom]

i assume, idk have to activate or deactavate it

i tride locking it but that didint work at all

[wanton cedar]

Pretty sure locking it just makes it so You can't do anything to it

[echo loom]

yeah i realized that after i tride it LOL

[wanton cedar]

Cat's is kinda finicky like that, so you probably just need to reactivate it every time.

[echo loom]

how do i dot hat though

[wanton cedar]

Reactivate the shape key?

[echo loom]

yes

[wanton cedar]

I feel like I misunderstood the question, but just this area with the sliders. bottom right, green icon.

[echo loom]

okay and what do i do there?

[wanton cedar]

find whatever shapekey controls i assume, the thighs, and drag the value up to 1

[echo loom]

but its already at 1. when i hit pose mode it goes back to the smaller body (the unedited version)

[wanton cedar]

Im a little tired, ready for bed, so I can't quite recall why it does that. Have you tried activating other shape keys to see if it does it with them?

[uneven bough]

@ornate stump still helping?

[ornate stump]

Have you got the result I asked for?

[uneven bough]

u missed this question

[ornate stump]

I don't have time to come back to confirm just "Yes" to your every question.

[uneven bough]

i could change the settings but i didn't notice any sound difference

[echo loom]

no it dosent do it with anything else, just the body

[wanton cedar]

Odd

[ornate stump]

While testing in gesture manager? If you can change the settings by yourself, that means there is no animation controlling it.

[wanton cedar]

Well im heading to bed so i hope you figure out what's wrong with it. probably some setting issue

[echo loom]

Okay goodnight thank you for trying to help 🫩

[uneven bough]

yup i tested in play mode with gesture manager

[ornate stump]

So go back and find where you put your animations in.

[uneven bough]

found the audio scale here

[ornate stump]

What does it show if you're trying to record that animation again?

[ornate stump]

You aren't in recording mode.

[uneven bough]

how do i do that again?

[ornate stump]

You should go back to the chat history to see how.

[uneven bough]

there's way to many messages to do that

[ornate stump]

There is a search function for that.

[compact oasis]

l can help with that

[uneven bough]

no i mean just our messages alone

still too many

[ornate stump]

You could look up for tutorial video on youtube about how to recording animation, or making toggle for vrchat avatar.

[uneven bough]

wait do u think i need to record it again? cause like i said the audio scale animation is still in my assets

[ornate stump]

if you're trying to record that animation again
Meaning if you put that animation in preview or record mode, it should show whether the animation is still working or not.

[ornate stump]

Yellow means object path is mismatched.

[uneven bough]

so how do i fix that?

[ornate stump]

Just record again.

[uneven bough]

i only recorded the near setting, that shouldn't matter though right?

[ornate stump]

If it works for you then sure.

[fiery spruce]

Thank you again.
Now i am going to look for a next step.

[uneven bough]

so now do i just slot my new animation into the motion? also what should my new animation's curve look like?

[ornate stump]

Of course yes. And the curve is up to you. I don't recall how you set it last time. Try and see the result.

[uneven bough]

pretty sure we made the curve strait right?

[ornate stump]

If you think so then do it.

[uneven bough]

whatever makes the audio scale linearly with height

[uneven bough]

not hearing a volume difference in play mode when i change the avatar height

[ornate stump]

You would have to test in game for the actual audio. If you see the component is changing values then it's working.

[uneven bough]

it's working for the avatar i just tested it on but not for the other one that has the same animation controller for some reason, any help?

[ornate stump]

Recheck the animation object path again.

[ornate stump]

You have to note that animation works by matching object hierarchy path. If it doesn't match with the object hierarchy, it won't work.

[uneven bough]

is their a way to duplicate the animation and copy it to the other avatar?

so i don't have to keep making new ones over and over

[somber sequoia]

animations are just .anim files in your project. copy them wherever you like.

there's a nice tool for fixing paths in them too, made by hfcRed

[ornate stump]

You could use vrcfury animation repath component. You'd have to look up yourself though.

[uneven bough]

that's not showing up in the add component list

[ornate stump]

Actually you have to use vrcfury to make your assets contains by itself. https://vrcfury.com/tutorials/artists

[uneven bough]

i'm already using vrcfury

[uneven bough]

both my avatars use the same fx controller and i already have the last audio scale animation slotted in for the first avatar so what do i do?

[sand cedar]

im trying to make an avatar but the textures are built into the fbx, is there a way to make it show up?

[somber sequoia]

You can export them, either in Unity or blender.

[somber sequoia]

I don't know the history of your issue, was just answering that one question. But if you want those to be different, just find the animation clip in your project and ctrl+d to duplicate it

[uneven bough]

look back at my conversation with @ornate stump

[ornate stump]

If you want it to work with multiple avatar with different object hierarchy, you have to read the vrcfury artucle I gave you above.

[round comet]

if I join meshes in blender whats the easiest way to seperate them again?

just like a keybind or sumn

[ornate stump]

There is no keybind for that.

[round comet]

I'll just duplicate em

and delete wtv

lol

[somber sequoia]

kinda - select all the mesh bits you want to separate then 'p' to "part" them out

[round comet]

oo alright :)

[ornate stump]

If it's still different materials, you could separate by material.

[round comet]

that worked perf ty guys

[somber sequoia]

yup, I was just going to type that too

it gives you a few useful options

[balmy barn]

select - p - seperate (either in edit or uv) , now you can use that seperated one as another material , handy when you bake everything into one texture

[sand cedar]

how do i do it on unity it did not work for me on blender

[balmy barn]

you wont have any material/texture unless you embed them on export, often texture one will fail cause path is wierd/wrong

[random otter]

Yo! So I made a avatar of my OC and I need help making each body part of the avatar solid so every time I use the avatar it dosent look like Play-Dough

[uneven bough]

done, now final thing i wanna do is use a different audio scale animation i made before to make another one of my avatar's audio scale with it's height, how do i do that again?

[ornate stump]

What do you mean done? Just done reading?

[uneven bough]

done as in i think i managed to get the audio scale with height working again on my 2 avatars

[ornate stump]

Then just replace the animation clip in the fx controller?

[uneven bough]

avatar has a different fx controller that i'm using than those other 2 btw

this avatar is completely separate form those 2

[ornate stump]

Can't you just take a look on how the layer is setup and try to replicate?

[random otter]

Chat I wanna learn how to make skins in Vrchat. If anyone is willing to help me learn for free, let me know. I am willing to make a custom animated Brawl Stars pin in exchange for Skin-Making knowledge. By the way, if I am breaking the rules please let me know. I haven’t chatted year in tens of thousands of years. I reposted this message since someone redirected me to here so I could get avatar help. I can do art for the models and prop models through paint 3d. Yes that app from Microsoft.

[astral locust]

hey... can someone tell me is it rigging issue or animation issue and how to possibly fix it? ...

basically it behaves like it would like to make standing fall or jump animation while it doesn't detect full crouch in VR or something I don't know how to even describe it...

[uneven bough]

tried that and still have no idea why it's not working

[viral tiger]

VRChat has an excellent official resource to help you get started with the SDK for making avatars at https://creators.vrchat.com/ .

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what about this video you're referring to

[astral locust]

strange shift when I am falling down

[somber sequoia]

hmm okay, I think I see it

[viral tiger]

I want to say that's the locomotion override for full body taking effect.

[somber sequoia]

like your hip bone jumps up a bit?

not a bad thought

[astral locust]

not bad? I basically see my chest in my view when it happens 😅

[viral tiger]

Regardless, almost certainly an animation thing rather than rigging.

[somber sequoia]

Sorry I should have replied to Mudskippy's comment

[astral locust]

ah okay

yeah I guess I can override locomotion controller and remove falling down...

[viral tiger]

I'd say if you also get a similar pose from walking around, it's the locomotion overriding full body tracking.

[astral locust]

yeah I get a similar pose when walking around when falling from even 1 mm thing

[somber sequoia]

I turned that thing off, it's annoying when you're trying to subtly shift position

[astral locust]

well now to find where or how...

I fixed it once for previous avatar but I don't remember

🤔

[somber sequoia]

that's in-game

I mean, in the avatar descriptor there's a thing about "force locomotion for 6 point tracking"

you can turn that off, but there's an in-game setting for all avatars.

[viral tiger]

I knew about the avatar descriptor having an option, in game override is news to me.

[astral locust]

the thing is I don't have full body there 😅

[somber sequoia]

aha

[astral locust]

I know you can disable it for fbt and I did that

[somber sequoia]

it's not this setting then

[viral tiger]

Yeah, if changing the setting doesn't work you can remove the falling/landing animations from the Base layer. I think GoGo Loco has a toggle to disable jump animations.

[uneven bough]

anyone still wanna help out? i have an animation that scales my avatar's audio with it's height and i'm trying to add it to my avatar

[somber sequoia]

I didn't know you could do that

[viral tiger]

Such a thing would likely use one of the scale avatar parameters and tie it to an animation for the audio source. I didn't know you could adjust the range/volume of an audio source with an animation. Would likely go on the FX layer.

[viral tiger]

Maybe ScaleFactor or EyeHeightAsPercent would be a good parameter.

[uneven bough]

it uses the EyeHeightAsPercent parameter

[uneven bough]

it already has a parameter and it's already recorded

[viral tiger]

The animation would start quiet and end loud using EyeHeightAsPercent as Motion Time. I presume the issue is that the Audio Source isn't obeying the animation?

[somber sequoia]

oh I see, that's interesting

[uneven bough]

no the issue is i don't know how to actually attach it to my avatar in the first place

[viral tiger]

The animator would go on the FX playable layer in the Avatar Descriptor since this isn't a Transform. The animation would go in said animator.

[uneven bough]

i put it in the base layer of the avatar's main fx controller

[viral tiger]

Make sure to add EyeHeightAsPercent to the parameters as a float and make that Motion Time for the animation.

[astral locust]

yeah I muted jump/fall section and it is alright now... funny that wasn't an issue with SDK 2.0 and it started to happen when they made 3.0 XD

[uneven bough]

how do i do those 2 things step by step?

[viral tiger]

The top left of the animator window should have a "parameter" tab, which is where you add EyeHeightAsPercent. Once it's created, go back to your layer, select the state, and click the field next to Motion Time.

For this to work properly, your animation should start with the volume/range the source would have at 0.2 meters tall and end with the volume/range at 5 meters tall.

[uneven bough]

the orange audio scale box already has the animation and parameter slotted in so i just need to add the eyehieghtaspercent to the parameters list right?

[viral tiger]

Be careful on the spelling, otherwise VRChat won't write to the parameter.

Oh, do you mean as in the Expressions area? You don't need to add it there.

[uneven bough]

leave it at 0 right?

in the list?

[viral tiger]

In the animator, yes.

Don't put it in your Expressions Parameter List. You might confuse the game. Just in the animator.

[uneven bough]

it's in the parameters list of the main fx and fx gestures

it isn't working.....

[viral tiger]

Really? That's surprising to hear. Maybe the layer needs a mask?

[cobalt cloak]

idea how to fix that

[flint talon]

Hey There, I have a novabeast and I wanted to put new ears on it, I got the positioning and everything but the hair I use is fitted for the normal novabeast hair, so in front of the ears and behind them my avatar has a bald spot. Does Anybody have an idea how I could fix this? I don't have a lot of blender knowledge so I have no idea what to do.

Please help I can't let my avi have hair loss😭🙏

[vapid slate]

how do you apply an spp?

[viral tiger]

If you're talking about aligning the exo skeleton thing with the body, I guess try to shift the bones?

[somber sequoia]

you open that in Substance Painter and from there export whatever textures you want for your specific workflow.

[viral tiger]

I think you need to change the texture for the ears, that would help.

[vapid slate]

do i just drag and drop it into unity once i get it?

[somber sequoia]

once you get what?

[flint talon]

Huh why the texture? What's that gonna do

[vapid slate]

after i export the texture i want

[somber sequoia]

sure, if that's where you want the texture to be.

[cobalt cloak]

its only a problem wen im on my knees upright is oke

[vapid slate]

ok

[viral tiger]

The ears being pink like a hairless cat?

[flint talon]

It's in bkender

It doesn't have a texture there

It's just the fbx

And even with a texture, my head is bald between ears and hair

[viral tiger]

Oh, well if you don't want to enter blender you could try to add smaller meshes to cover the bald, parenting them to the head.

[viral tiger]

Unfortunately, I don't have much advice to fix your alignment problem in Unity.

[flint talon]

Tried that, looks kinda bad

[viral tiger]

You could try moving the ears to cover more of the "bald spot". You're not gonna find many satisfactory answers unless you use Blender. You could also just lean into it and make it bald.

[cobalt cloak]

wen i use the hips as the link its dose that

[viral tiger]

Honestly, It's really hard to visualize what this is from all the closeups.

[cobalt cloak]

better

[viral tiger]

I think no matter how you shift or reparent the bones it's going to look a little scuffed. I'd say just go with the best configuration you can.

I think it's supposed to be more attached to the chest and upper chest? Maybe?

[cobalt cloak]

but ey its look good as long i dont bend to 100%

[vapid slate]

do i drag the spp onto the avatar or just into project

[somber sequoia]

I told you what to do with that file already

You cannot use a .spp file in Unity

[vapid slate]

is it free

[somber sequoia]

is what free

[vapid slate]

substaince painter

[somber sequoia]

Not at all

[cobalt cloak]

is it a bad idea to use 2 armatur link if on part dosent want to link
like wen i link the hip the chest wont link wen i use the chest the hip wont link

[vapid slate]

ffs

[somber sequoia]

it's $200 outright for one version or like $20 monthly

[vapid slate]

FFS

[somber sequoia]

This is not the place to discuss, see rule #9

[cobalt cloak]

sry

[cobalt cloak]

but ey do you know maby more about the link problem
like wen i link the hip the chest wont link wen i use the chest the hip wont link

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what you're talking about here

[cobalt cloak]

okay so wen i linke my hip wit vrcfury then the chest wont link and the spine only to like 50% wen i use the chest the hip wont link

[somber sequoia]

I actively avoid using Fury, so I'm not much use here.

[cobalt cloak]

how do you link armature?

[somber sequoia]

why would I do that?

[cobalt cloak]

oh do you use bilder?

[somber sequoia]

Assuming you mean Blender, and yes, I do use Blender.

[cobalt cloak]

maby that woud fix my problem but i will just for know use to armatur link (idk if that works)

[radiant rover]

Ummm I have a dumb question

[somber sequoia]

you should probably ask it

[radiant rover]

Who can I ask for help with uploading an avi that I bought to my vrc? I might’ve worded that dumb

[somber sequoia]

if you want someone to do it for you, you shouldn't share your credentials with someone, so ideally do it yourself. But if you want to commission someone, visit the VRC Traders discord.

[viral tiger]

Or are you just having trouble setting up a Unity project?

[somber sequoia]

if you just want help on doing it, this is the place.

[radiant rover]

I don’t have a computer that actually can download unity so idk what to do at this point

[somber sequoia]

you won't be able to upload an avatar without running unity.

[radiant rover]

It’s an old chromeOS laptop

[radiant rover]

Can I have the link to that or?

My laptop is crap

[somber sequoia]

it's in #1204490664637890580 somewhere.

[viral tiger]

Well... ChromeOS is technically Linux, so it's possible. It'd just be really complicated.

[somber sequoia]

those are usually ARM though right? Doesn't look like they make an ARM64 version for Linux

well not of 2022.3.22f1

[viral tiger]

Ah, didn't account for that.

[vivid spear]

still need help with this

[gaunt knoll]

for using unity on a chromebook the only way to use it changing the os to Linux everything besides steamOS every linux should work

[viral tiger]

The problem is the right hand gestures working but the left not? Sounds like an avatar masking issue.

[quasi swallow]

what's the easiest free way to edit an .fbx file? i want to fix up a pair of ears to better fit an avatar's head. they need to be a little further apart & rotated so i assume i will need to do this outside of Unity, right?

[lilac musk]

Blender

[quasi swallow]

i thought you couldn't edit .fbx files in blender??

[lilac musk]

IDK who told you that, but that's what most people use for VRC

You can't drag and drop it into blender though. Have to go to import

[obtuse trail]

depends on the Blender version. 4.5 and later can read drag n dropped fbx and obj files

[lilac musk]

Oh! Good to know!

[pine valley]

(blender has been able to read FBX files since time immemorial)

[mellow cairn]

any clue which one the animator could be

[quasi swallow]

the stars root is supposed to allow the stars on the bone to move around. how do i set it up to enable that?

for some context, im pretty confused by VRCFury's armature link (despite following tutorials, there's always some sort of error) so i've just been dragging assets under the bones they need to connect to but that doesn't let the stars move around for this accessory

previously, i've dragged the whole thing under "neck" which keeps it where i place it but i would like to allow the stars to move

[short ferry]

is there a way to overlap audio and have it repeat very fast on an avatar?

basically each time a toggle is turned on, the audio overwrites itself

[celest fjord]

Posted a problem I'm having in #1139216499123437668 if anyone knows what's going on or wants to offer any tips please let me know there!

[indigo compass]

What you are describing is playing a sound source as a one shot, which we sadly can't do on avatars.
You could chain audio sources I guess, but aside from that, no, can't have overlapping audio, repeating is easy though with the https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors#animator-play-audio component.

[dark jay]

anyone know if the shader liltoon has a discord server?

[uneven bough]

so how do i do that step by step?

[viral tiger]

Right click in your project files and go through the right-click menu to create an "Avatar Mask". Name it whatever you want and select it. In the inspector, turn all the green parts red. Then, import the skeleton of the model you're using. Then, select "Toggle All" to turn off all the boxes. Then in your layer, click the gear icon and add your Avatar Mask.

[dark jay]

Anyone know how to fix liltoon?

It should look like this not the top happened after i update but when making a new material it doesnt happen

[indigo talon]

Hiya have a bit of a proble, first time making an avatar in vr chat and i can't get the eye tracking to work. When importing it is cross eyed, but then when testing it for eyetracking and previewing they snap into a position i can actually use

the bones are the straight up ones im using

[quasi swallow]

bumping as i still need help if possible!

[uneven bough]

and leave the settings in the little box default?

[viral tiger]

Little box?

[uneven bough]

where the mask slots in after clicking the gear

[viral tiger]

Well, make sure the layer's weight is set to 1.

[uneven bough]

it is

[viral tiger]

Good, then you're set.

[mortal sun]

hey guys i wanted to ask for those who make avatars i wanted to make a one piece avatar with custom scripts for the effects but i know you can't do custom scripts for quest but can you use custom scripts for pc at all? just asking because i don't know

[uneven bough]

it says i have to fix compilation errors before entering play mode to test it, i've always had those errors and it never did this before

[viral tiger]

Unfortunately, I have no idea. Animators shouldn't lead to compilation errors so it's something else. It's getting late, so I don't think I can help further.

[lilac musk]

Avatars can't have scripts, only state machines

[mortal sun]

oh really is that only for quest avatars or can you have scripts on pc avatars also ive seen some avatars with custom scripts that were pc only

[lilac musk]

No avatar has scripts. Unless your talking about custom shaders, which you can do for PC

[indigo compass]

You might be thinking of editor only scripts like VRCFury, which just does something to the avatar before upload, it does not persist after upload.

[mortal sun]

aw man

[mortal sun]

no like i have seen avatars with custom scripts on them with effects

that's why i am asking

[lilac musk]

you don't need scripts to do effects. Thats animations

[somber sequoia]

you haven't

[mortal sun]

ok

[mortal sun]

🗿 well i saw something i don't know what it was then

[somber sequoia]

yep, that's often the case, you can get pretty complex with animations and clever use of things like contacts

[mortal sun]

alright

[lilac musk]

State machines (Animation controllers) can do some very basic logic, which is pretty powerful

[stiff quail]

If im uploading an avatar and it doesn have gogoloco and i want to put it in but its already uploaded on quest and pc but the pc blueprint id is in the quest one do i just need to add the gogo to pc one or both and another question is will it automatically pop up on the expressions or do i need to add that aswell and final question would the avatar be preset to do the gogo or do i need to map that aswell

[somber sequoia]

If you use the VRCFury prefab for GogoLoco, it'll come with the menu stuff all ready to go. If not, see the instructions, they're very detailed and explain how to make this work.
If you want it on both quest and PC, you need to add it to both.

not sure what your final question means

[stiff quail]

ah ok

like if i add gogoloco to avatar that doesn orignally have gogoloco do i have animate it and bind it to the button

like

the cross sit pose

do i have to make the avatar sit down and make it sitdown when it hits the button

[somber sequoia]

Same answer: if you use the vrcfury prefab and vrcfury, that's handled, if not, you have to do some setup and I really suggest you read the documentation for the details.

[stiff quail]

i have vrcfury on the projects so i should be good tysm and i have reupload them right?

[somber sequoia]

nothing changes in-game unless you upload it

[stiff quail]

alrighty thank yuo

[uneven bough]

............audio isn't scaling with any of the 3 avatars i just tried to put that on FML

[stiff quail]

one last question when i add gesture manager to the project but i already have it open do i ahve to restart the project or does it automatically comeonto the project

[somber sequoia]

I don't really use that but I think there's some menu option to add it to the scene

[stiff quail]

and another last question so its a unity file and i cant drop the gogo onto the avatar

and it says theres nothing to import but i dont see the gesture manager

like i dont see it in gesture manager

im sorry about the amount of questions im new to avi uploading and creation

[proud timber]

can anyone please help me out w a model thing rq? im tryna yoink an asset for a private model and sketchfab isnt happy with me making an acc 💔

[somber sequoia]

what sort of help are you asking for?

[proud timber]

im just tryna get ahold of a model (CC Attribution not stealing ts) but i cant make a sketchfab acc 😔

need help getting the file

[somber sequoia]

ohh I see

[proud timber]

yeah, it sounds a lil sketch probably but i can like direct whoever to it instead of them clicking a link or anything if that makes any sense

[queen isle]

I have a toggle that turns up the values on a dither when not moving after turning on a bool that happens over 10 seconds on a transition duration. When I play the toggle and stand still in front of someone, The dither makes me transparent at first and then over time makes me opaque at the same distance. What causes this and how can it be fixed? Picture of how it is at base and animated values:

[fervent fractal]

Does anyone know what to do when you attach a bone to a bone in unity for a booth model and the boobs do not move or the butt I know there’s an easier way to attach clothing, but I just like doing that way

[ornate stump]

https://creators.vrchat.com/common-components/physbones#transforms

[proven quail]

Make sure the breast bones and butt bones are named the same on both the model and the clothing (I assume you are using modular to attach the outfit). Also make sure the path is the same (if the avatar has a root bone for the breasts, the path would be armature/hips/spine/chest/boob root/boob.L etc. If the clothing is missing the root bone then the path would be different and the bones would not merge correctly)

[minor wharf]

i suck with unity and im still pretty new to it. is there any way to make a paid avatar quest compatible and add physbones to the hair? if there is, are there any beginner friendly tutorials?

[woeful wren]

hi guys, is it possible to have different 'view position vrchat' in each outfit? i try it to animate it, it didnt work

[proven quail]

Quest converting can be a lot, but make sure to start by duplicating your project. Then use the copy as the quest project.

The first thing to do in your quest project is to switch the build to Android. In the top left, go to file > build settings and then click on Android and switch build.

[fleet idol]

hi uhh, does anyone know why this happens with some emotes?

I know it's something IK related, but I did like a bunch of tutorials and it still didn't work

[balmy barn]

hope you have dm's closed, here comes the bots

[fallow frost]

wait what

D:

[balmy barn]

many scammers in this discord

[proven quail]

Are you attempting to create a 3d model from scratch? I'd start with the blender donut tutorial for the most current version of blender if you are.

or are you looking for someone else to make you a model? in that case you want to go to the VRCTraders discord, in the community section.

https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1204506421631393913

people in that server are verified avatar makers that have completed commissions. You can find someone to help you there. If you want to try yourself, you could start from scratch by learning blender or use existing bases and models purchasable online (booth, gumroad, jinxxy, etc) to recreate your character.

[fallow frost]

Closing the request for now! Thank you for responding! Atm trying to get everything sorted

-# so so many friend requests what have I done :A;

[woeful wren]

hi guys, is it possible to have different 'view position vrchat' in each outfit? i try it to animate it, it didnt work.

the outfit had bigger head, so i cant see outside

[somber sequoia]

nope, can't move the view position - use a different avatar for that

ideally you do a different one for each outfit anyway, so they can each be decently optimized

[woeful wren]

thankyou!

[balmy barn]

here is one using camera to switch "viewpoint" to drop/constrained avatar ( you do not want to do this in vr its terrible )

fov is wierd / it tend to be very offcentered and extremely nausiating in vr

[obtuse trail]

In the avatar selection menu, you can see an avatar preview with an animation.

I've read this "intro" animation can be changed, but I can't find any info on this.

Does anyone know of a tutorial?

[balmy barn]

just add a animation before trackingtype is set ( not equal 0 )

gogo loco

my setup

vrchat default (yellow blob thing is your animation)

base/locomotion controller

[cobalt cloak]

why are my wings doing that (only in play mode)

[obtuse trail]

so if my avatar has GGL, I need to use the first one? or can I use any?

[pine valley]

if you're using GoGo, then I bet you can just modify its Base layer

(in fact, doesn't GoGo already have a preview animation?)

in that case, you'd just swap out the animation clip

[obtuse trail]

ok, so I copy/paste the base layer on my folders and swap out the "Avatar 3D Thumbnail" animation file?

[mellow cairn]

?

[obtuse trail]

@pine valley @balmy barn Sorry for the ping, just want to confirm 😅

[pine valley]

If you make a new copy of the GoGo controlers, then you'll need to make sure to plug your new controller into the avatar descriptor

(otherwise, it'll still be pointing at the original controller)

[obtuse trail]

tysm! 🙏

[pine valley]

also, ha, i thought that looked a bit like sign language!

[obtuse trail]

yea no kidding!

I have one unity file with multiple avatars, so yea I would then have to make one for each.

[flint talon]

Haii, im having a problem where my hair is not moving at all, i put phybones on it but in playmode just the bone is moving and the hair is not, its like they are not connected

[high zenith]

Working on avatar optimization, I have my texture memory down pretty well, but are there any other things that are big hitters for performance?

[cobalt cloak]

eny idea how to fix that

[cobalt cloak]

okay i found out its the blendTree for the wing control so how to fix that

[somber sequoia]

material slots

[flint talon]

Please Guys😭

[umbral oriole]

how did you attach the hair to the avatar?

[flint talon]

dragged the prefab on the avi root

[umbral oriole]

hmm can i see a screenshot?

[flint talon]

of what exactly?

[umbral oriole]

the heiarchy where you placed the prefab

[flint talon]

like that?

[umbral oriole]

the whole hiearchy pls

[flint talon]

yeah give me a sec

need to open the project

[umbral oriole]

thanks so to confirm the main issue is the bones move but the hair doesnt move right?

[flint talon]

exactly

its like bone and hair is not connected at all

[stone raven]

Can someone help me?, I'm looking for something but I think I may be clueless how to find it

[flint talon]

what u looking for

[umbral oriole]

i was thining it was a blender problem like the hair not being weighted correctly

[flint talon]

i did the auto weighting thing but it changed nothing

[stone raven]

I am making a avatar commission request soon for my partner

-# (( Late birthday present))

And the person said I could use a pre-made base for a start

But the thing is I don't know what website to even look for one to buy

[umbral oriole]

wait in blender??

[flint talon]

usually u can look on websites like gumroad or jinxxy

[umbral oriole]

is it humaniod or furry youir looking for

[stone raven]

Tysm!!

[flint talon]

yeah

[umbral oriole]

ohhh thats your issue

[stone raven]

It's Kinda Humanoid ish ((Mostly Male Human Shape))

[umbral oriole]

ok look on jinxxy for akii base or zin eboy they have lots of textures and clothes made to fitr them

[umbral oriole]

you likely might have weighted the whole hair to the head

[stone raven]

Tysm!

[flint talon]

ehm tbh no idea, im kinda bad when it comes to blender

[umbral oriole]

no worries good luck

[stone raven]

thanks!

[umbral oriole]

i feel you, can you open up the blender project for the hair

[flint talon]

yeah one sec

[umbral oriole]

also piece of advice you should never re weight hair

[flint talon]

okay i opened it

[umbral oriole]

sick selct the hair go to weight paint mode and then in vertex groups select head then send me a screenshot

[flint talon]

should i select hair and bone or just hair

[umbral oriole]

just the hair

[flint talon]

where do i find the vertex groups?

nvm found it

[flint talon]

there is no head in the vertex groups

[umbral oriole]

ok then lets select the root 1

while in weight paint mode

[flint talon]

did that

[flint talon]

and now?

[umbral oriole]

go into weight paint mode then send a screenshot

[umbral oriole]

try going through all the vertex groups do any of them have the whole hair as red or yellow?

[flint talon]

nope

[umbral oriole]

ok check the modifiers for the hair is there an armature modifier?

[umbral oriole]

hmm this si odd everythign looks fine

i have no idea why it wouldnt work on your avatar?

[flint talon]

Maybe I did something wrong in unity

Maybe I should make a new prefab because I changed something about the hair in blender

But no idea how to make a prefab

[flint talon]

Yeah I don't really understand it myself

[proven quail]

was the ponytail mesh actually weighted to the ponytail bones? check each strand of the ponytail in vertex groups

[flint talon]

Not home anymore, but I think it was like that

[hidden peak]

can someone help i have a avatar with face tracking on it but i do not own face tracking and its causing the mouth to be stuck open in game, does anyone know if thats fixable?

[somber sequoia]

mouth stuck open is likely that you have the jaw bone mapped in the rig setup, and shouldn't.

[hidden peak]

how do i fix that?

[balmy barn]

click fbx > inspector > configure > head - unmap anything assigned to jaw

[somber sequoia]

click fbx -> inspector -> rig tab -> configure (etc.)

[hidden peak]

alrighty thank you so much!!

[limber bison]

I'm having trouble updating my avi

it gets stuck on 100% and the the failed to upload message pops up

[mellow cairn]

?

[pine valley]

NDMF is failing to store assets that it created.

I am unclear how that would happen

[crystal whale]

How do i get face blendshapes to work in a toggle? trying to get open mouth and closed eyes for when the fire breathing activates.

[pine valley]

You'd need to disable the built-in visemes during the animation

I don't think that can be done with a VRCF toggle alone

[indigo compass]

Any blendshapes actively being used by the avatar descriptor cannot be animated by anything else, unless you disable that temporarily using the animator tracking control component https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors#animator-tracking-control

[pine valley]

bingo

[crystal whale]

So... how woujld i go about doing this?

[indigo compass]

And I think Fen is correct, I don't think there is any way to do this with just VRCFury

[pine valley]

The easiest thing to do here, imo, would be to make a new "breathe fire" blendshape

it's very easy to create a new blendshape from a mix of existing ones (over in Blender)

just set them up the way you want them and then do...

[crystal whale]

... shit

[pine valley]

New Combined

(i think it used to be "From Mix")

[crystal whale]

I do not know blender

[indigo compass]

What do you find easier, Blender or doing the animating that VRCFury is doing yourself

[crystal whale]

Well, i have no choice given that blender won't download on my computer for some reason.

every time i go to the website, it redirects to something and refuses to download

[balmy barn]

using these ?

or that

hdr blowing up colors again woopie

steam also have it ,

[indigo compass]

Get it through steam then I guess

[crystal whale]

Would adding a fire contact tag get my avatar to interact with the other items that use fire like the marshmallow?

[balmy barn]

unlikely , their layers probably not even set to interact with anything other then world objects in their list

[wary cave]

so i want to add these cyber arms to my nova but it had no shape keys, so i went and added some shape keys for the hands, but when i activate em the hands look like this while standing straight but in t pose they look ight (the higher the arms the less u see the hands, idk how to explain it) any1 know how can i fix this or why it s happening?

[worldly pasture]

damn cute

[somber osprey]

why is it that my Avatar is always a foot away from ground, is it because of goco loco?

[mortal tangle]

i cant tell if da head is merged too the body

[somber sequoia]

Check if they are separate mesh objects.

nothing in this video shows that.

[mortal tangle]

How do i check it

[somber sequoia]

... this is blender 101, look at your hierarchy in the outliner, find what you think is the body mesh object, see if there's a head one

[main kiln]

So I'm struggling to let this happen, because it works fine at first but moving the viewpoint reverts the work I did. So this is one of the obnoxious asks, but I'm not planning on overpowering a VRC world with the height, but the character itself is meant to be pretty tall. I think it's roughly over 9m, but I can't seem to get it over 5m (obviously). Is there some limitation constraint that I have to do to get it to not revert back to 5m automatically?

[somber sequoia]

was there some previous discussion of what you're trying to do?

I mean, I'm not sure what your goal is here

[main kiln]

I just got here but I haven't been able to find the answer elsewhere

Basically I just wanna make my avatar bigger than VRC's 5m height limit

[somber sequoia]

oh I see

[main kiln]

Not obnoxiously big

[somber sequoia]

that's pretty obnoxiously big

[main kiln]

It is?

[somber sequoia]

I mean, I'm like 1.825m so yeah 5 seems quite large 🙂

[main kiln]

Well no no that's the avatar height limit

It's more for like my own sake, I don't wanna end up annoying people with my size (that I'd have to tweak anyways later so I'm not significantly taller than I want)

Though what I meant by obnoxious is like avatars that are like 50m+ tall 😭

I don't wanna get anywhere near that

[somber sequoia]

well you generally can't bypass limitations

[main kiln]

Normally yeah, though some avatars do, I think there's something that allows you to go past it

I have an avatar (well I know an avatar) that does that

It's about the same size that I'm trying to make this one

[somber sequoia]

it's possible avatars uploaded before limits could do so. also you can scale in-game.

beyond that, even if it were possible, you won't likely find answers on the official vrchat discord on how to circumvent the rules 🙂

[main kiln]

Ig that's fair

I'll keep looking ig

[mortal tangle]

'

[somber sequoia]

those are not mesh objects.

[mortal tangle]

iju

[somber sequoia]

the orange triangle is a mesh object.

[mortal tangle]

ouuu okk

now what

[mortal tangle]

cause this is all i see when i tried too merge them

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what this image is from, but it seems to be talking about merging armatures, not mesh objects