avatar-help

[sage kelp]

seems to be working now, thank you so much for the help. would you happen to know anything about the other part i needed help with? with the boot. i showed a screenshot of what was going on with it if that helps any

[proven quail]

If I had to guess, something with the bones or weight paint? How are you attaching the clothes to the avatar?

[sage kelp]

im just putting them under the avatar in the hierarchy and vrc fury armature link

[proven quail]

So, sometimes vrcfury armature link wants to move around and resize bones to match the avatar bones, and this can mess up the clothes. I think the armature link should have a checkbox or option not to do this? What does the link component look like?

[sage kelp]

this is the whole link. would it be align scale or something like that?

[proven quail]

try unchecking these options, it looks like these might be the ones moving the bones around

[sage kelp]

alright cool, it works. thanks so much once again

[proven quail]

npnp, ur karin is cute I love the colors btw

[sage kelp]

thank you!!!

[arctic ginkgo]

You need to create an expressions menu asset in Unity. Right click on the assets section and select Create > VRChat > Avatars > Expression Menu. Then you can add toggles, submenus, puppets, and buttons. You'll need to also create an expressions parameter asset, and link that to your menu by dragging it into the parameters slot of the menu asset.

Make sure to drag your expression parameters asset and your main expression menu asset into the appropriate spots on the avatar descriptor under the 'Expressions' section to add them to your avatar

Submenus are links to other menus, kind of like a folder, which can house more toggles or submenus.

Toggles, Buttons, and Puppets, are methods of controlling parameters. Those parameters in turn can be used to animate things on your avatar. If you would like working options on your avatar, you will need to set up animation controllers that animate your avatar accordingly.

For example, a "hat" toggle will change a parameter named "hat" to true or false. Then in your FX layer animator, you have and animation for "hat on" and "hat off" that will play based on the value of the "hat" parameter

[gentle iris]

hi, how can i do a texture swap for a model?

[lilac musk]

As in a toggle that you switch in game or a simple change and reupload?

[gentle iris]

a in game switch

im working on a model i downloaded and want to change the red to blue

[lilac musk]

Have you made toggles before?

[gentle iris]

ye

i use vrcfury for them

[lilac musk]

Oh, I don't use fury, so I couldn't say to their workflow. Though the standard way is the same as any other toggle, but with a material swap. Make a new material with all the settings/looks you'd need, then animate the original and the new materials being applied. Everything else is the same.

[gentle iris]

ok

also how would i do a 2d mouth that works?

i got each texture for it

[lilac musk]

I've done 2d stuff but with 3d models. What I did was make blendshapes that pulled out a quad from behind the original face, creating a new mouth shape via a texture. However this has it's limitations.

[gentle iris]

i also never done mouths before so this is new for me

i found a video that might help me

[brave void]

Hi! I added visemes and face toggles (both are parameters)to an avatar I'm currently working on, but when testing, the visemes and face expressions overlap each other. I tried looking up a solution online, but couldn't find one. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?

hope I'm making sense here I'm new to these stuff :>

[arctic ginkgo]

My solution to this is to separate the mouth blendshapes into their own. That way you can animate the mouth expressions to disable whenever the visemes are greater than 0

also, nice to see fpe content still around!

hi robby :D

-# (i'm actually working on an fpe world, if you'd be interested in seeing my test world as I update it I can send you a link :3)

[gentle iris]

couldnt understand the video

[arctic ginkgo]

well how do you have the textures set up? are they decals? separate meshes? activated by blendshapes? etc

[gentle iris]

each one is a different object

[mortal zinc]

So I am having an issue with avatar audio atm

I added a heartbeat toggle to my avatar (a game object with an audio source and the vrc source audio component added to it). When I emulate it in unity it works fine and when I am on vrc I can hear it (I increased the range big enough so I could just to be sure) but for some reason no one else can hear it. I feel like ive tried everything I can think of at this point. I even had a friend go step by step with me doing the same thing with their own avatar. I could hear their audio, they couldn't hear mine still.

Just for added tech support questions I reset my avatar after switching back to it after updating it, all of their audio settings are set up correctly, all of my stuff is up to date, and I did try turning off the write defaults just to make sure those weren't affecting it either

[gentle iris]

@arctic ginkgo each one is a different object, its how it was when i downloaded it

[arctic ginkgo]

alright, what I would advise then, is to shrink them inside the head, then create blendshapes that bring them back out. Then you can join them to the head in Blender. Then once in Unity, you can create animations of them being brought out, or you can just directly use them as the viseme blendshapes in the avatar descriptor

[gentle iris]

how would i do it with viseme blendshapes?

i got the avatar descriptor up

[arctic ginkgo]

well like I said, you would need to create the blendshapes in Blender

[gentle iris]

oh

[arctic ginkgo]

there's a number of ways to do this, that's just the method I usually use

[rustic cedar]

setting up my model for the first time, what am i doing wrong? the bones in blender are missing in unity

[arctic ginkgo]

I'm not seeing any missing bones. Everything looks good to me

are you running into any issues with the rig not working when testing it in-game or using an emulator? (gesture manager, AV3 emulator)

[somber sequoia]

I'd suggest you name them better though, for your own reference later.

[rustic cedar]

when i use gesture manager its stuck at a T pose and wont move at all

[left gull]

is the .fbx set to humanoid?

[rustic cedar]

@arctic ginkgo

[arctic ginkgo]

alright, check the rig section of the FBX import settings. There is likely an error dropdown menu. Let me know if you see any errors there and what they say

[rustic cedar]

it moves when i put it in the muscles and settings, but i ponder why it doesnt show anything in gesture manager

[rustic cedar]

alright!

nvm i guess it was tweakin, though i got the thing backwards so hes being a little creepy

not a fan of the arm not fully doing its thing but ill fix it

[brave void]

already have the mouth blendshapes separated unless I'm misunderstanding something here :<

[arctic ginkgo]

oh awesome! so now you need to have them toggle separately. You can copy the logic from the face expressions into a new layer, and then add logic that disables all mouth expressions when the Viseme parameter is above 0. Then you'll just need to have separate animations for the mouth expressions and facial expressions to go in the respective layers

[brave void]

gonna give that a try! thanks!

[turbid elm]

So I just spent an hour uploading an avi and got this https://i.imgur.com/rJ7M8d3.png

[arctic ginkgo]

are you useing SDK 3.9.0 or newer?

[turbid elm]

I have absolutely no clue, I haven't uploaded in like a couple years.

How do I tell?

[arctic ginkgo]

are you using the VRChat Creator Companion? (VCC)

[turbid elm]

Yee

[arctic ginkgo]

if you select "manage project" in VCC, you can see the version of your SDK and press the + button to upgrade to the newest version

[turbid elm]

Rrrahhh so I have to start again.

Imagine if it told me before I spend an hour with max CPU usage x.x

[arctic ginkgo]

no?

you just upgrade the SDK and then upload

[turbid elm]

Yeah it took like an hour after hitting 'Build'

[arctic ginkgo]

???

[somber sequoia]

possibly lots of shader compiling, which it likely won't have to do again

[arctic ginkgo]

your avatar must be extremely bloated 😬

[turbid elm]

Probably is, I don't try and play optimized ones XD

[arctic ginkgo]

oh true!

[arctic ginkgo]

many people sadly don't 😔

[somber sequoia]

that's ok, it's what the auto-blocking options are for

[turbid elm]

Welp probably do have to because I already closed the unity project without saving

[arctic ginkgo]

what really gets me is that people selling avatars often don't try to optimize. It wouldn't be such a big issue if these avatars weren't everywhere

[turbid elm]

Why oh why couldn't it just tell me before opening that it's forcing an upgrade XD

[somber sequoia]

it doesn't do any "on open" checks

[arctic ginkgo]

Well you only need to upgrade in order to upload. Everything else should work fine

[turbid elm]

VRCC should be like "Hey, this wont work with this outdated version" or something

[somber sequoia]

ok that I can agree with, I'm really surprised it has no warning like that

I wonder if there's a canny report for that

[arctic ginkgo]

It does warn you when you go to upload, but it would be nice if the warning happened before the build, so you don't have to wait

I mean, it should know you're uploading, you pressed a button specifically for that lol

[somber sequoia]

VCC checks for updates, it could likely put a big warning up

[arctic ginkgo]

That would be nice

not everyone actively reads dev updates, sdk changelogs, and the discord announments. It can be pretty easy to miss if you only upload avatars occasionally

[somber sequoia]

exactly

[turbid elm]

thankfully it did not have to build all the shader things again and it was quick

thanks for the help

[arctic ginkgo]

of course!

[topaz thicket]

Hi! I have a quick question: Does anyone here know any way to convert a PC avatar to a Quest avatar? I tried doing it, but the face ends up going black/invisible, and I don't know how to fix it.

[queen sigil]

hi i have problem my avatar here but my old avatar didnt save ?

doesnt show?

this

[teal laurel]

You'd have to use a shader that is supported on mobile, such as toon standard.
Duplicate your materials and then assign the new materials to the quest avi.
Transparency will not really be possible. Particles do work, and do support transparency that way but yea, avoid using them if. not necessary

[teal laurel]

What vrc sdk version are you on?
And clicking fetch doea nothing i reckon?

[queen sigil]

ya

[topaz thicket]

Would I still be able to do this even if it's a paid avatar?

[queen sigil]

nothing.

[teal laurel]

If you have the avatar files in unity, sure

[queen sigil]

ya

[teal laurel]

What is your sdk version?

[queen sigil]

sdk?

i didnt remember

[teal laurel]

If you click manage project in your vrchat creator companion, you can see if any updates are available. If yes, make sure everything is up to date, and try again

[topaz thicket]

Okay, I will try and see if I can do that. I have tried looking up videos to help solve it, but nothing is helping. I tried converting it, and I set each one to VRChat/mobile/toon, but it still doesn't work. Do you have any video guides?

Also, thank you so much for helping! This is honestly my first time doing any of this.

[queen sigil]

nvm updated

lol

[arctic ginkgo]

black, probably issue with vertex colors
invisible, probably an issue with normals

if you use "toon standard" as the shader, both of these issues can be fixed in the settings:

• Use vertex colors = False
• Backface culling = False

[teal laurel]

https://youtu.be/MPkMX74Hqfs i don't know how good this tutorial ia, but ir mentions VRCQuestTools which ain't bad

[mortal dagger]

Gocoloco refuses to be on my avatar

[teal laurel]

You have two gogolocos

[ornate stump]

You should not have 2 gogoloco on your avatar.

[teal laurel]

If you want flight and dashing, remove gogoloco all

[mortal dagger]

I putted like 3 and its still not working

[teal laurel]

Only put 1

💀

[ornate stump]

Don't you think it's going to cause conflict? If it doesn't work, check up yourself whether you had imported vrcfury.

[mortal dagger]

still not working in guesters

[mortal dagger]

i did

[ornate stump]

Exit play mode and screenshot the inspector when you select the GogoLoco Beyond object.

[teal laurel]

-# Hmm looks good from what i can see

[mortal dagger]

ama try it again

play mode i mesn

[teal laurel]

Can you also show your scene, objects you have?

While not in playmode

[mortal dagger]

YES

[teal laurel]

Nice

[mortal dagger]

IT worls

[ornate stump]

What did you do differently?

[mortal dagger]

I put beyond in the model

didn't work for gogo all for somereason

[ornate stump]

Is it rather because you put both in it?

[teal laurel]

Ty mods

[mortal dagger]

Probably not?

[teal laurel]

🖤

[mortal dagger]

Oh because at first i tried using the normal gocoloco instead of vrcfury First... then i putted vrcfury on top of that

[teal laurel]

Oh yea that will break :P

[mortal dagger]

Oh and btw

i use the Quest model for both pc and quest version

how long until that backfires?

[ornate stump]

What supposed to be backfires?

[mortal dagger]

Making the model mainly for quest and not caring about the desktop version

for example i will go for gogoloco fly only for quest

[ornate stump]

Quest version is much lighter than desktop so I shouldn't even be a problem for desktop.

[mortal dagger]

Oh because Vrcfury just gave me a warning thought it might be a thing that will backfire later

[ornate stump]

What the is actual warning?

[ornate stump]

Why don't you put the same version for both?

[mortal dagger]

they are the same version

so no worries?

[ornate stump]

Same as in you use gogoloco beyond for both?

[mortal dagger]

yes

and for some reason it turns into all instead of beyond

[ornate stump]

It doesn't do that by itself.

[mortal dagger]

My head hurts

[gritty tree]

@covert coral

[ornate stump]

Look for more error above that.

[covert coral]

Are you trying to remove the bluepaint ID?

[ornate stump]

You haven't import GogoLoco.

[gritty tree]

i did

[ornate stump]

Check in other avatar too if you had multiple in the same scene. Make sure that there is no red text on any of them.

[gritty tree]

theres no red text for me

[ornate stump]

Clear Console then start build again. See if any error still came up.

[gritty tree]

i did 4 times

💔

[ornate stump]

Did you clear console each time?

[gritty tree]

its doing it now

[ornate stump]

Is it uploading now?

[gritty tree]

nope @ornate stump

[ornate stump]

Then make sure that there is no blueprint ID in PipelineManager component. If it has, "Detach" it.

[gritty tree]

wheres pipelinemanager

[ornate stump]

Right around AvatarDescriptor component.

[gritty tree]

where do i click to find those-

[ornate stump]

Your avatar object.

[covert coral]

Are you using VRCFury?

[gritty tree]

yes

[gritty tree]

hun T_T

WHERE

do i click

[ornate stump]

Just click on your avatar object in the scene and see in Inspector

[gritty tree]

[ornate stump]

Did you click on your avatar?

[gritty tree]

oh-

now i did

haha

💔

[ornate stump]

Is it blank like that or did you just detach it?

[gritty tree]

blank

[covert coral]

Press Attach?

[ornate stump]

Don't attach.

[covert coral]

This is where the issue starts, If you put in a blueprint it messes up the errors

[gritty tree]

its talking abt blue print id but there is none

[ornate stump]

When building, did you select the avatar image?

[gritty tree]

i havent touched anything besides adding the gogoloco

i importated the avatar i bought

clicked his name

added gogo loco

[covert coral]

what error are u getting now?

[gritty tree]

same thing

[covert coral]

Blueprint error?

[ornate stump]

Did you select image here?

[gritty tree]

yes

i added a pintrest image

to that

[covert coral]

let me ask my helper..

[ornate stump]

Select the second error and take its detail below.

[covert coral]

Step 2: Refresh the VRChat SDK Control Panel
Sometimes the "NullReference" error persists even after detaching because the Control Panel is stuck in an error state.

Close the VRChat SDK Control Panel window.

In the top Unity menu, go to VRChat SDK > Show Control Panel.

Sign in again if prompted.

Go to the Builder tab. The error should be gone, and you should now see the option to "Build & Publish."

[gritty tree]

huh

im confused this is the only one i got-

i just started it

and just bought it

[covert coral]

Is there any Missing (Script)" with a yellow warning icon, right-click it and select Remove Component.

Sometimes it's that

[gritty tree]

you deleted too quick

and it all went away

but i just bought the avi

and its been doing this

soon as i bought it

[covert coral]

It's a VRCFury issue.

[gritty tree]

the other stuff went away now its this

idk what wholesome lolipop is but apparently a issue

[foggy wadi]

Thats huh... the adult stuff

[ornate stump]

It's nsfw stuff.

[gritty tree]

so if i delete that entirely it should fix it ?

i might be 21 but i dont need that on a gaming platform T_T

[ornate stump]

Should just delete it.

[gritty tree]

i did im retrying it now

[gilded canopy]

I did some more research on the issue I'm having, and it might be that the VRChat avatar fingers animation seems to be affecting the arms as a whole. How could I fix it so that VRChat understands not to put the finger idle animation onto the arms?

[ornate stump]

Animation only controls bone movement. And finger should already move only fingler bone. Your problem is more likely because the arm is weight painted to finger bone so finger movement deform the arm mesh.

[gilded canopy]

The mesh itself doesn't necessarily "deform". It seems like the bones of the fingers that should have some mild movement seemingly also affect the arms? I see this behavior in half the avatars on VRChat, whilst other half don't do this. I struggle to pinpoint the cause. (mind you I'm referring to on PC/Keyboard). I did record a clip for reference within VRC.

Accidentally uploaded the raw mkv

[ornate stump]

It rather looks like the movement is from additive layer.

[gilded canopy]

Any clue what might be causing this? Whether from within VCC addons, Blender, or Unity?

[ornate stump]

It's the default additive layer in avatar descriptor.

[gilded canopy]

Is the default layer inherently bad to have?

[ornate stump]

Usually no.

[gilded canopy]

Well, the thing is that I have the additive as default already. Nothing that I'm aware of is affecting it

[ornate stump]

That's what I said. It's the default additive that make that movement.

[gilded canopy]

I still wonder why the default additive is seemingly affecting the arms though

[ornate stump]

Making arm sway to mimic real human arm.

Additive is for adding subtle movement to the model.

And the default one is doing just that.

[gilded canopy]

I'd prefer the arms to be static, and have just the fingers move. The movement it's currently adding is jittery and stands out terribly

[ornate stump]

Then just create a new additive layer controller with nothing in it.

[gilded canopy]

I'll give it a shot! I'm thankful to get any help I can at this point, given the amount of headache it's been causing me

[mortal dagger]

how do i edit the shader?

[ornate stump]

Create a new material and replace it in the particle system renderer.

[gilded canopy]

Little > arrow to the left of the shader, or if it's grayed out, you'll have to make a new material via right click, and then drag it onto whatever you're replacing

[mortal dagger]

create material present?

[gilded canopy]

Something also worth noting is that, although the arms are supposed to move smoothly, for some avatars it seems to move much more intensely than it should, with jitters and stiff movement

[gilded canopy]

On the bottom of your screen, you'll see a category labelled "Project", where you have all your assets. Right click there>Create>Material

[mortal dagger]

Thanks

it worked

[gilded canopy]

Sorry for all the replies, but I just want to inform you that just making an empty controller for the additive layer fixed it completely. A huge thank you for the support!

[mortal dagger]

And quick last question how can i make my character Grab the prop

For an example this HOPE syringe its unsatisfactingly glued to my hand

[ornate stump]

Is it not grabbing or you want to make some improvement?

[mortal dagger]

it is not grabbing, my hand can move freely when the Prop is out

[ornate stump]

Did you edit the constraints like it said so?

[mortal dagger]

I dont know how do, do that

[ornate stump]

Put the hand bone as source of the constraint and Activate the constraint.

[elfin lichen]

So I want to remove this hair from this model. Is my only option to remove it in blender or is there a way I can do it in unity?

[gaunt knoll]

yes

[gaunt knoll]

hang on a secound i have to find the tool

wait do you want it gone gone or just hiden there should be a blendshape for it

[elfin lichen]

I guess hidden works. I just assumed I had to delete it to hide it.

[gaunt knoll]

there should be a blend shape for it

[elfin lichen]

Is this in blender or in unity?

[gaunt knoll]

unity

[elfin lichen]

I'm still fairly new. I'm not sure where to locate that.

is it in the hair root?

Wait, I think I found it

Seems like if I turn these down, it shrinks it. That should be all I need to do right?

[gaunt knoll]

yeah play around sometimes theres a hat opinion

[elfin lichen]

sweet tyty

[mortal dagger]

help

what do i do

[ornate stump]

What did you do?

[mortal dagger]

Idk

[ornate stump]

When did it first appear?

[mortal dagger]

After i added the Gocoloco beyond

[ornate stump]

Gogoloco shouldn't have any script on it. Unless you got it from untrusted source.

[mortal dagger]

its says assests/_poyiomishaders/scripts/thryeditor/editor/helpers/helper. cs

[mortal dagger]

i got it from gumroad

[ornate stump]

That rather is after you added poiyomi shader. So try removing it first.

[mortal dagger]

i never added that shader

its only quest stuff

[ornate stump]

It's in your project nontheless.

Either it has to be added by you or it came with avatar package you imported.

[mortal dagger]

i found it

one of the models o downloaded accidentally came with unsupported assests

yet even after deleting them the error remains

[ornate stump]

Make sure that it wasn't old error. Clear console first.

[mortal dagger]

no cleared it

[ornate stump]

What does it say now?

The asset the being the problem.

[mortal dagger]

can you see it properly?

[ornate stump]

The time is still from 10 minutes ago. Are you sure you cleared it?

[mortal dagger]

yes

[ornate stump]

Did you completely delete PoiyomiShader folder?

[mortal dagger]

Nope i am ganna do that now

[ornate stump]

What did you do earlier when you said you removed it?

[mortal dagger]

removed extra packages that appeared with the problem

[ornate stump]

No commission advertising in this server.

[deft atlas]

Ohh okay

[ornate stump]

Are you going to remove the message?

[pearl wolf]

I'm getting bot vibes 😅

[deft atlas]

Done

[stray trench]

gesture expressions would live in the FX layer right?

[mortal dagger]

How in the fish tank

[ornate stump]

If you need help, you have to screenshot a few topmost error.

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[mortal dagger]

Its telling me to just unable unsafe code

[stray trench]

im trying to delete the gesture expressions, am i looking in the right place?

[ornate stump]

Are you sure it wasn't the same error from poiyomi?

[ornate stump]

If you don't want gesture expression, you could just remove the entire layer from the layer list.

[pearl wolf]

Why would a scammer delete their message here and instantly say hi in another channel to start the Cycle again 🤔

[mortal dagger]

it is but when i delete poiyomi i got the 43 complie error

[stray trench]

the FX layer isnt responsible for anything else? i have face tracking and i thought it used it

[ornate stump]

Make sure that the timestamp in the error wasn't the same as before.

[mortal dagger]

its different

[ornate stump]

FX is for animating everything else that isn't humanoid bone.

[ornate stump]

What is it now?

[stray trench]

so then yes it is used by my face tracking

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[mortal dagger]

16:10:50

[ornate stump]

Screenshot the error instead.

[left wharf]

try taking a screenshot of whole screen using Win+Shift+S
it might be better than explaining it yourself

[mortal dagger]

its my mother's laptop she wouldn't allow me to log in discord

[left wharf]

ic

[ornate stump]

Did you actually remove completely remove the poiyomi shader?

[mortal dagger]

Idid it now i am waiting for results

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-front-man-squid-game-2-happy-celebration-gif-12369111202088932661

[mortal dagger]

IT GOT Fixed

[ornate stump]

What are you doing why it's removing 3 times now?

[mortal dagger]

did we ever tell you how goated you are?

[serene wave]

So, I'm converting an MMD model to VRC
And I'm having some issue with eye movements. They seem to operate on blendshapes, but I can't find them
On top of them being stuck in the "look down" position, they seem to be overlapping with another material used for eyes with no way to swap them. Anyone know what I could do to resolve this?

In Blender, the eyes are just looking forward, BTW, something about the Unity import changed that

At least... I think

[crimson rampart]

hey can any one help me with this problem
I have a T-shirt wat i want to take of by a PhysBone interaction (pulling it), and once it’s removed, it should stay off permanently.
The shirt should not snap back when I stop grabbing the PhysBone, even though the PhysBone itself returns to its original state. To wear it again, it should only be re-enabled via an expression menu toggle.
Additionally, I’d like to be able to toggle the PhysBone itself on/off, and also control the T-shirt entirely via the menu if I don’t want to use the PhysBone interaction at all.
Ideally, both systems would be linked in a clean way (or synced if possible), so the state doesn’t conflict or revert unexpectedly.
already have a rough understanding of how to set up each part individually (PhysBones, menu toggles, FX layer animations), but I’m struggling with connecting them properly and handling the state logic without things snapping back or overriding each other.
At this point, I’m not even sure if what I’m trying to do is actually possible in VRChat.

[gilded canopy]

I'm a bit too tired to think the whole process through, but I believe you could potentially do something with contact senders/receivers. If you pull the shirt close enough to the receiver, then it'll toggle a parameter linked to vrcfury(?)'s toggle, using a global parameter and thus disabling the T-Shirt

Do keep in mind, I'm not at all an expert with these things. I'm still learning stuff as I go

[gilded canopy]

If the global parameter doesn't disable the T-shirt, you could piggyback off another toggle, where the parameter goes instead, and using an exclusive tag to turn it off

[modern karma]

how does one add toggles for face expressions to the radial menu

[gilded canopy]

The expressions would have to be animation files to control all the blendshapes. Are you planning on making custom faces, or did you get a preset from somewhere?

[sturdy prawn]

the face mirror wont show my avi and the personal mirror makes my eyes gone ad my avi look half visable

[crimson rampart]

thank you ima go try it later

[arctic ginkgo]

Anything pretty much is possible if every state is acheivable (shirt on, shirt off), and all required data can be read/written to as needed

I'm going to open unity and set up some logic for it and send screenshots, but this will take me a few minutes, just want to let you know that's what I'm working on

I would honestly advise against using VRCFury to set up the logic. Using it to add this system to your avatar non-destructively, sure, but for logical sequences like this it's usually best to set it up manually

[crimson rampart]

would be fire idk much about vrc fury but i dont think that its that hart to use it

[arctic ginkgo]

ehh I tend to steer away from it other than using it for scripts like global colliders, and creating/adding systems non-destructively. For basic toggles I'm sure it's fine, but it's not really a tool built for making complex systems, and it's honestly more work to use it for that than to just set up the animator logic yourself

[crimson rampart]

then ill probably stick to the animator

[arctic ginkgo]

sorry, unity is taking a while to open 😅

[crimson rampart]

i mean i know hot to do the toggle with the physbone but if i try to toggle it after it i cant get it to work

all good

[true haven]

yo just saying holy shit I've been looking for a fix for like weeks straight, thank you for figuring this out!! My avi doesnt look like it has parkisons anymore.

[arctic ginkgo]

@crimson rampart

These are the animations:

Shirt On:

• Shirt Enabled
• Physbone Disabled

Shirt On Physbone:

• Shirt Enabled
• Physbone Enabled

Shirt Off:

• Shirt Disabled
• Physbone Disabled

the 'shirt on physbone' one should also go in 'shirt on physbone (idle)

the idea here is that you can turn the physbone on/off with the interaction toggle, which when the shirt is on will switch between actually turning off the physbone. When the shirt is off, there's no need to have the physbone on though, so that's just always disabled when the shirt is off

Then when you grab the physbone, it goes to an "idle" state, that waits until you let go. Based on how far stretched the physbone is, it will either go back to the shirt being on, or will take the shirt off

the 'shirt off' state also disables the parameter for toggling the shirt, which means you can easly turn the shirt on/off with the toggle even if the physbone is on. Though you can still toggle the physbone off with a separate toggle

so the physbone doesn't just control the state, it also forces the toggle off, which means you use the same toggle to turn the shirt back on :D

[crimson rampart]

thank you verry much ill try to do it in my project

🙏

[arctic ginkgo]

the idle state also has a transition back to "shirt on" just in case you turn off the interactions while in the middle of grabbing the shirt. It's unlikely that you'd do that, but I wouldn't want your shirt to get 'softlocked' until you turn the interactions back on

of course!

I love interactive items on avatars :D

[crimson rampart]

fair tho i hope that i can do this with my knowledge

[serene wave]

Alright, bump
I'm... kind of at a loss as per what to do

The materials seem to overlay each other with no way to disable any

[arctic ginkgo]

honestly, I'm not sure anyone else would know without looking at the model. I'm guessing these issues are in Unity, not Blender? For the material issue, I would check in Blender what materials and meshes exist on the model in the eye area.

For meshes, you can click on the area, then press H to hide the selection. If you keep doing this and find an extra mesh, then that may be the issue. If there are no extra meshes, select the eye mesh and go to the materials tab. You can use a similar process to find duplicate areas: click on one of the materials and press "select" to select the tris that use this material. You can hide these with H, and see if you find any duplicate areas.

As for the eyes looking down issue, I'd need a little more context; Is this happening in-game? using emulation tools (gesture manager, AV3 emulator), in the editor outside of playmode, etc?

[balmy barn]

remove mesh thats too close or create shapekeys to hide them (some dont and it will z fight) - rare cases they exsist aleady and have to be 100 to be hidden

[serene wave]

Hm, I'll check the meshes for sure (Well, MESH, there's only one with all the materials)
As per the eyes looking down, it happens both in editor outside of play mode and using emulation tools. This leads me to assume it'll happen ingame as well

[arctic ginkgo]

alright, so if the eye looking is done using blendshapes, have you checked that all blendshapes are set to 0 in Unity?

[serene wave]

Yup, they are all set to 0 and there are no blendshapes of the "lookleft" or "lookup" variety

[arctic ginkgo]

and the eyes are not looking down in blender?

[serene wave]

Is the looking an innate MMD feature that got lost in translation between programs?

[serene wave]

Nope. Straight ahead

Also, just checked the mesh, when I press H, it's invisible from the outside, but visible from the inside

Of the head, I mean

[arctic ginkgo]

Sometimes blendshapes get "stuck" when not exported correctly, but afaik they should all still appear in Unity, even if they don't do anything. My next guess would be that the eyes are in fact weight painted to a bone, which might have imported with incorrect rotations? In Blender if you select a vertex on the eye and press N, then select the 'item' tab, you should be able to see what vertex groups it's assigned to (which correspond to bone names)

[serene wave]

Hm
They don't seem to have any bones around them. The only bones in the head aside from the head itself are for some animu-style expression icons

Let me check

[arctic ginkgo]

This could be the back of the eye then. It's probably intended to be used with backface culling, but your shader in Unity might not have backface culling enabled. If you don't think it's necessary you can always delete the back side of the eye.

[serene wave]

Oooh darn, I may have changed backface culling

Alright, I'll redo that then

[arctic ginkgo]

These are all just guesses, but you kind of have to work through everything, it's process of elimination :P

[serene wave]

Yeah

[serene wave]

...the kind of thing that happens when you follow a tutorial without fully understanding the process

...aaaand boom! After changing all the eye materials to back culling, it looks MUCH better!
Thank you lots, Sunshine person of indeterminate gender!

I... MAY be able to struggle through the rest of this without bothering you lot more

[arctic ginkgo]

of course! let me know if you need help with anything else :D

[serene wave]

I'll make sure to! Thanks again!

[turbid sable]

does anyone know why this happens? same color, same shader, no lighting differences

[ornate stump]

Is it even the same material? What are we looking at?

[crystal zephyr]

Hi question, is it possible to attach a contact sender to a particle and have the contact move with a particle ? Or is this not possible with unity particles at all ? Couldnt find an answer on that
for example a contact sender on gun bullet particles

[ornate stump]

Not possible.

[crystal zephyr]

Haiyaa rip, thank you !

[turbid sable]

the skull part color is FFFFFF(full white). but the horns are different from the skull

[ornate stump]

It's rather the texture is slightly darker?

[turbid sable]

they are the same

i want the horns to match with the skull so they dont stick out

[ornate stump]

Can you circle the skull part on the texture?

[turbid sable]

i dont quite understand?

[ornate stump]

This is the texture. Where is the skull on that texture?

[turbid sable]

upper left corner

[ornate stump]

Now screenshot the horn texture as well.

[turbid sable]

i drew over the Uv because its easier

one thing it could be, is that the base im using is old asf

[ornate stump]

It's just lighting different from the meshes not actually connected.

[turbid sable]

how may i connect them so its basically seamless or merging?

[ornate stump]

That's the job for blender.

[junior void]

I'd rather just transfer mesh normals

[turbid sable]

alright, blender it is

[sturdy prawn]

.

[crimson rampart]

idk what im doing wrong but it wont go in the idle so the physbone is turned off all the time

ill probably look in to it later again

my brain is kinda fryed

xddd

[arctic ginkgo]

If you have the shirt interaction parameter set to true, then it should transition to Shirt on Physbone. I would check the transitions between Shirt On and Shirt on Physbone, as that is supposed to work like a regular toggle using the shirt interaction parameter

[crimson rampart]

let me check

i have it like this

[arctic ginkgo]

that should work fine if you have shirt interaction set to false, but in the image you sent earlier, it looked like it was playing 'shirt on', so maybe you didn't have the parameter set correctly. I would also advise to disable Has Exit Time and set the transition durations all to 0

[crimson rampart]

those are the other ones

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah that all looks right to me. Are you testing with Gesture Manager?

[crimson rampart]

yes

huh when im just going in the playmode its on off

the toggle works

[arctic ginkgo]

Did you ensure the 'shirt interaction' parameter was set to true?

[crimson rampart]

i have double checked everything with the screenshots u send also thios one seems fine

[serene wave]

Okay, question for later: When I go to animate expressions, as soon as I start the animation, the character goes into a sort of... half-kneeling pose with arms outstretched

Is this normal? I've already deleted the emulator

[junior void]

Yes it's normal. However, record on a dupe of your avatar as it is common for em to get stuck in that pose

[arctic ginkgo]

on that note, if it gets stuck, you can always use Pumkin's Avatar Tools to reset the pose

[lime hawk]

Okay this may sound really dumb but like whats the setup for a pyhsbone grab and make it stay in that state till toggled off by a menu toggle or button i got the pull itself set up with on and off stuff but when i let go it just turns back off?

[arctic ginkgo]

You want the physbone to stay in place when you grab it?

[lime hawk]

nah i want the animation toggled by it to stay toggled

[night ember]

just dont use the condition of physbone grabbed in the off transition

[serene wave]

Yeah, tis what I'm doing. Thank you!

[lime hawk]

Thats it 😭

im so dumb wtf

[lime hawk]

wait but woudnt it be stuck in the state then because i would need another condition to make it work?

i always fuck up conditions on my more complexer projects lol

[night ember]

as long as it has something there its fine

[sturdy prawn]

.

[lime hawk]

im sorry but my ass is slightly confused because idk if for the toggle "on state" do i gotta add like a wait state or nah?

[night ember]

just put a different condition?

[lime hawk]

yea but it just ends up looping instead of actaully staying toggled idk i cant seem too find my error

[gentle iris]

i added a item to my avatar but in game it doesnt stay connected, so when i move its floating behind

[pale dew]

dumb question its been a while why tf does my model have giant colliders or limit gizmos at then end of the bones i know its a simple fix but i cant remember what to do

[lime hawk]

the endpoint position on the Y axis is set to 0.06 which i assume is that big for your current Amature

[pale dew]

thats it thanks

[lime hawk]

np!

[vernal timber]

I keep getting this error on any model I put into unity

My models that were already in the project upload just fine

[lime hawk]

It seems like your SDK is out of date

you should be able to update it in the VRC creator companion

[ornate stump]

That's for updating vcc. Not the sdk. You have to update sdk in the Manage Project menu.

[vernal timber]

🌚

Thanks I’m a lil dense

[arctic ginkgo]

Try explaining exactly how you want it to work. I'm guessing you want to pull the cord and have the cutter start, but then what? should it turn off ever? how is it supposed to turn off? anything else you have in mind for how it should work

[lime hawk]

just stay on untill i toggle it off with a toggle i added in the menu

[arctic ginkgo]

okay, you basically are asking for a simplified version of what was asked earlier

like just above the first time you asked

[lime hawk]

ya

[arctic ginkgo]

this^

something similar to this should work

[arctic ginkgo]

do you want the grass cutter to only start when you let go of the pullcord? or should it start without letting go, you just have to pull it far enough?

[lime hawk]

just when i stretch it over 1

is enough

[arctic ginkgo]

this should work

[wary wedge]

How do i fix a texture not appearing correctly
First pic is how it looks in the unity project
Second is what its supposed to look like

[arctic ginkgo]

you can also have it turn off the parameter and use "true" instead of "false", which could let you use a button, but then I'd make sure that you sync the state to remote side with a fork since buttons don't always sync properly on their own

[arctic ginkgo]

what shader are you using?

[wary wedge]

Toon standard outline

[arctic ginkgo]

Do you have 'use vertex colors' enabled?

you probably want that off

also try changing the backface culling settings

[wary wedge]

Where do i find all of that?

[lime hawk]

can you show me how that would work by any chance?

probably sounds dumb i just never used a fork to sync shit

[neat coral]

dose anyone know how to fix this, its only doing it on unity not blender

[arctic ginkgo]

You use the IsLocal parameter to switch between either the local side or remote side. The local side does the logic, and uses parameter drivers to change the value of a synced parameter. The remote side changes only based on the synced parameter

[somber sequoia]

what is "this"?

[wary wedge]

Is it this?

[arctic ginkgo]

make sure when you export from blender that all your blendshapes are set to 0, and that you have the 'Basis' blendshape selected

[arctic ginkgo]

If i'm understanding the issue correctly at least. It looks like the hat is not being affected by the blendshape?

[arctic ginkgo]

yes. The backface culling and vertex color settings look fine here, but try changing backface culling to "front" just to see what happens

this may mess up the rest of the model, but if this makes the eye texture appear, then you'll have found the issue

[wary wedge]

It does this

[arctic ginkgo]

are the eyes and the face on the same material slot?

[wary wedge]

No their both separate

[arctic ginkgo]

okay, make sure you apply or remove all modifiers (excep the Armature modifier)

[arctic ginkgo]

these are the materials. The material slot is the section of the model that lets you drag a material onto it.

It looks like in that video, that the eyes and head have the same material slot (they changed at the same time when you dragged the material onto it) but I wasn't 100% sure

[wary wedge]

The eye texture is actually there but idk whats covering it

[arctic ginkgo]

I'm confused what this is, where did the head go?

[wary wedge]

I stretched the eye out of her head for that pic lol

[arctic ginkgo]

ohh okay. The white part may be intended for something like transparent gloss or reflections. That's not something you can really do on quest though, so you should be able to just delete this section in Blender

[neat coral]

only got the armature

[arctic ginkgo]

just to double check, the issue is that the hat is not being affected by the blendshape?

[wary wedge]

Something like this?

[neat coral]

no any blend shape is making it do that but only in unity

[arctic ginkgo]

oh yep! that seems to be exactly what it was. If you want to recreate this effect on Quest, you can use the additive shader, or you can use this texture as a matcap texture for the eye (this will have a slightly different effect, where it follows the camera)

[arctic ginkgo]

the shading issue around the lips?

[neat coral]

yes

in blender all the keys are fine

[junior void]

Blendshape normals bug

[arctic ginkgo]

Okay, in your FBX import settings (Unity) under the mesh tab, try setting the normals to "calculate". If they're already set to calculate, try setting them to "import"

[neat coral]

that made it do it

with no keys on

[arctic ginkgo]

alright, try setting both to "import" then

[neat coral]

yess that worked tyyy

[gentle iris]

when i move around with the ears on they dont stay on the head and float behind when i move forwards

[somber sequoia]

How did you attach them?

[lime hawk]

if i want it globally synced would just use the remote side correct?

[arctic ginkgo]

I'm not sure what you mean?

[gentle iris]

i made them a toggle and put them in the hair dropdown

[lime hawk]

i set it up but it seems broken?

i probably fucked up something

[somber sequoia]

That doesn't explain how they are attached to the avatar.

[lime hawk]

i assume as a unity prefab

[gentle iris]

i did the same with my other avatar and they worked normally

[somber sequoia]

I'm not assuming anything, and also that doesn't explain either.

[lime hawk]

and just attached via bone hierachy

[junior void]

You need to attach the ears to the head bone

They're likely on the avatar but only the root object

If you want them to follow the head, attach to head bone

[lime hawk]

i set up the states n stuff but it seems broken?

[gentle iris]

the model i downloaded doesnt have a normal bone system but i think i found what it does have

[arctic ginkgo]

what's broken about it?

[lime hawk]

when i try to pull the cord or toggle it only shows up for a second and just untoggles again

im super sure i did sum wrong

[arctic ginkgo]

make sure the condition on the transition from On -> Off is correct. It should be the opposite of the value set in the parameter driver

[gentle iris]

got the ears working right

[lime hawk]

also quick question the sync can be a bool right?

[gentle iris]

how can i have the music work on the pc version of my avatar

[somber sequoia]

Please don't.
But if you must, use an AudioSource with the audio file in it. Or you can use VRC Animator Play Audio to pick which file gets played.

[arctic ginkgo]

yes

[gentle iris]

ok

[modern karma]

preset, blendshapes already included in the base model

[gentle iris]

how would i do a lightsaber i can turn on and off?

[gilded canopy]

Then you'd need to use the animations (holding the combination of blendshapes that make up the various expressions) and set them up with toggles for each face you wish to use

[modern karma]

thx

also sorry for the late response, i had school stuff

[gilded canopy]

If you need more in-depth help, you're welcome to DM me

[somber sequoia]

do you already have a light saber prop?

[tough marsh]

would it be possible to show these eyelashes through the hair?? I just dont want to have to deform them over the hair because it ends up looking really weird for a side profile

[gentle iris]

ye, kylo rens downloaded from vrcmods

[somber sequoia]

Well if you just mean to enable/disable, that's just a simple toggle and there are tutorials to do that in many ways.
If you mean the light, you'd have to figure out how it lights up - probably it's material emission, so you would turn that on or off.

[gentle iris]

i want to have the blade appear

[somber sequoia]

Again depends on how it's built - maybe there's a bone to scale to extend the light blade?

that's how I'd build it

[tough marsh]

use blendshapes and create an animation in unity? perchance

[somber sequoia]

And put weapon contacts on it for when you hit other people with it 🙂

[somber sequoia]

yep, a blendshape would work too

[dense meadow]

this might be a bit of a dumb question, but, i see asset creators talk about surface painter often, and when i go to look it up i find a bunch of different things........ which one is it? :,)

[floral fable]

Anyone know how to add a sitting animation with VRCfury where you can still move your hands and head?

[somber sequoia]

Do you mean Substance Painter, the Adobe 3D painting application?

[dense meadow]

.....well that would probably be why i was so confused lmao. looked up surface painter, substance painter looks right. and also an adobe product. ew. well, thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

[somber sequoia]

It's an excellent product, even if unfortunately now owned by Adobe.

[arctic ginkgo]

if you happen to be a university student, you should be able to apply to get it for free

[dense meadow]

i unfortunately am not anymore 🙃 o well, ill figure something out!

[somber sequoia]

Perhaps you are lucky and your student ID has no date on it. Like mine.

but that doesn't get you the Linux version, should you need that - that comes from Steam now only.

[dense meadow]

that would certainly be an option.... if i think i still had it. maybe i should look for it hmmmmm

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'm a little surprised I still have mine, it... er, wasn't recent. But it did work, at least before the full Adobe takeover.

[dense meadow]

mine most certainly isnt either lmao. do you need the id itself or does just a university email work?

[somber sequoia]

they asked for an ID when I tried it, I submitted a photo of it

[hushed torrent]

how do i add assests onto an exisitng avi

[ornate stump]

Is it the avatar you uploaded?

[fathom basin]

Anyone able to help? Im trying to figure out how to make toggles for clothes and hair and colours and such but I feel like I need a bit of help after 4 or so hours lol

[somber sequoia]

where are you stuck?

[fathom basin]

Trying to figure out the toggles, mainly with using VRCFury, but making the hair and clothes assets toggleable in general

[somber sequoia]

I don't do Fury but it looks like those are game objects you could simply toggle on and off

[fathom basin]

It's my first time using this program lol

[north stone]

Hello, I'm making my first model/avatar but the shoulders are not following the upper arms, anyone know how I can fix this?

The armature if needed to help.

[naive mango]

hey guys need some help, i try to upload an avatar but once it says "building" it then just breaks, i can move inside the scene but i can't actually upload the avatar, i've let it run for a bit but no luck

[somber sequoia]

shoulders don't "follow" upper arms, what about these images do you feel is incorrect?

or I guess they kinda do in IK, but either way - explain what is wrong here

[north stone]

I want the semi sphere shoulder to follow the upper tube arms when going from reaching up or to the sides

[somber sequoia]

you could weight paint that part to the upper arm bone

[north stone]

ill give that a try, thank you ^.^

[peak flare]

i cant help with this little information

any errors?

[naive mango]

turns out im just stupid

[hushed torrent]

yes

i need a Unlit fur shader, anyone have a link?

[brisk wind]

(NSFW WARNING) I’ve been encountering issues with a model I bought from a creator Called Mayosplash, it was his Cerberus model, every time I load into a game, it’s just pure bright pink but perfectly fine on unity, (I’m on quest btw) does anybody have a way to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

Probably an animation is swapping that broken material in, you'd have to find the material used and see why it's broken.

[brisk wind]

Got it, thank you for the info

I’ll let you know if I find a fix

[somber sequoia]

no need, just feel free to ask for further help if that's not it 🙂

[brisk wind]

Oh, may I DM you?

It’s not me uploading the avatar, it’s my BF, mainly because I don’t have a PC so he can’t see the bug

[somber sequoia]

I don't do private help in DMs, that's what this channel is for

[brisk wind]

Hm ok then, I just didn’t want to clutter the channel, but whatever floats your boat I guess

I’ll update you once we get to work on the avatar

[somber sequoia]

again, no need to update me on your progress.

[brisk wind]

Uh…..You said to ask for further help?

Do you wanna help me or not?…..

I’m getting very confused

[somber sequoia]

Feel free to ask for help in this channel, it's what it's for. Lots of people in here are helpful.

I'm not personally committing to anything.

[brisk wind]

Ah ok, I get it now, forgive my confusion

[somber sequoia]

no worries

[brisk wind]

Tho I will be posting an update so hopefully I can get more help, I hope I didn’t waste 30$

[somber sequoia]

oh surely it can be fixed

[naive mango]

Hi guys, had a quick issue i need some help with, I've tried messing around and can't find it. These straps don't seem to have any sort of gravity or bones or whatever the term is called. The rest of the model seems fine however can't see to get these to actually flow correctly. Any ideas?

[river patio]

The model is bought from booth. I did set up the model. Shaders. Rig and selected the mesh. And everything. But it's stuck to this. I feel like it's a project issue (I plan on trying to export it to VRChat through a different project). But is there a fix for this?

This is like the second or third Avi I've uploaded, so please excuse my dumbness.

[naive mango]

I had this issue earlier, are you able to move in the scene?

it was an issue where I opened the prefab instead of dragging said prefab into the scene itself

[river patio]

Yes.
I can.

[naive mango]

this is your fix then

[river patio]

Aight

[naive mango]

go back to the original scene, and drag the prefab in

[river patio]

Appreciate it man.

[naive mango]

and it should work

i had an issue with mine aha

[naive mango]

^^any help with mine would be greatly appreciated guys

[opaque snow]

trying to add gogoloco
I have vrc fury on the project and then also dragged the gogoloco prefab on the model and now its not working

when i go into play mode the avatar just vanishes

[river patio]

Hey dude. I tried what you said and it didn't work. You think it could be something else?

[teal laurel]

Did you drag in the vrcfury gogoloco? Or the none vrcfury gogoloco

[north stone]

@somber sequoia Thank you for the help, weight paint was one of the major issues but did rerig and now it works aside from fingers being all weird XD

[drowsy geyser]

I just need help fixing this cuz idk how to make it not block most of my vision :’) I’m on mobile btw

I’m new to vrchat as well so I’m just asking for help in case anyone knows how to fix this issue :’)

[tough marsh]

forwarding this because nobody managed to give a solution, anyone got any ideas?

is there a way to make the eyelashes show up through the hair?

[ornate stump]

Do you mean face mirror? You can adjust size in the radial menu > Options.

[drowsy geyser]

Imma check 🤔

[ornate stump]

It's shader stencil. The shader is unity part.

[drowsy geyser]

It worked! Thank ye friend! :D. idk if you’d like me to call you that but if you don’t then my bad-

[tough marsh]

so just to check it would be possible yes? (apologies if this is a stupid question)

[sinful obsidian]

is there a way to attach anim files to a .controller

[ornate stump]

There're plenty of avatar that has done it.

[sinful obsidian]

oh it's that easy

got it

[ornate stump]

Took me some time to think what you actually meant because it's really that easy.

[sinful obsidian]

lol

i'd always assumed that if for whatever reason the anims got disconnected it was just over

but you just drag them into the base layer

[mortal dagger]

can someone PLEASE explain why this isnt working?

when i use game mode the textures are missing(easy fix) But why the thing is floating next to my shoulders

iused Vrcfury

[ornate stump]

What is it supposed to do?

[mortal dagger]

be in my hand

Yet its floating

this also happened to me twice

[ornate stump]

Did you do vrcfury armature link?

[mortal dagger]

No what is that?

[ornate stump]

https://vrcfury.com/components/armature-link

[mortal dagger]

i also found this error

[ornate stump]

Does it work when testing?

[mortal dagger]

Yes it works now

thanks

now how do i fix textures without putting out an ugly png looking thing

[ornate stump]

Didn't you say it's easy fix?

[mortal dagger]

yeah but last time i fixed it i ended up with a png shooter

[ornate stump]

What even you meant by png?

[mortal dagger]

Like its just an animated black square png

[ornate stump]

png is an image format. You probably can't use it to describe something here.

[mortal dagger]

well the texture of a particle Bubble around that bubble arent air its a black edges that makes it looks like a Gif the one you upload

[ornate stump]

You rather mean the particle is opaque square then?

[mortal dagger]

yes

sorry english isnt my first language

[ornate stump]

You have to change render mode in the material.

[mortal dagger]

OHHHHH that's why it never worked

[ornate stump]

English isn't my first language either.

[mortal dagger]

is there a way to change a shader from a prefab package without doing it all manually

[ornate stump]

You could do multiselect all the material from project panel and change all at once.

[white topaz]

Does anyone know how to seperate UV tile meshes in Blender? tryna make a questie version and trying to separate these meshes

[teal laurel]

You can go into object mode, click the avi, go to edit mode, click what you want to aeperate CTRL + L and that should select the entire object

Then you can split it apart

@white topaz

[white topaz]

this just selects little pieces at at time

it's hard to differentiate pieces of hair from each other due to multiple hairs being combined

[balmy barn]

seperate by material , if you are lucky hair is its own material otherwise you can select from uv view

select by uv if avatar is using atlas/baked texture for the entire thing - might be abit of a guesswork

[neat elk]

Hello! I do not know how to add blendshapes to my manuka avatar..this is what i see when i purchased the blendshapes

[balmy barn]

somehwere in fx controller (its for face im guessing)

[neat elk]

yes yes, its for the face- is it this?

[balmy barn]

thats where id put them

[neat elk]

ohhh alright!!!

[white topaz]

tysm!

blender skill i've been needing but was to lazy to learn, thanks for the help

[neat elk]

So, for the blendshapes, it does show the gestures working but the default face shows when not doing any motion in gesture manager, would this be the same when i load into vrchat?

basically the blendshapes i have change the face shape and not just the eyes.

[proven quail]

Put the default face you want in Idle on both hands

[teal laurel]

Ooo nice atlas and UV, i like it

[wild star]

been stuck with this for ages now
why won't it let me in? I updated unity and lost so many of my projects bc my laptop is a labrynth and it still won't let me in

also how do I back-download older unity versions because aaaaaaaaaaaaaa this new version sucks

[ornate stump]

https://unity.com/releases/editor/archive

[wild star]

kino thank you
but will probably stick with the new one purely bc I feel like I'll end up using the VCC instead

[ornate stump]

VCC and Unity are completely 2 different app for different purpose. It isn't that you can use one in place of another.

[wild star]

Well that sucks then because unity refuses to let me make or open projects

[ornate stump]

VCC is for creating and manage unity project for vrc. And unity is for working and editing on unity project.

[wild star]

well I'm only using unity for vrc avatars

[ornate stump]

THen how did you create a project?

[wild star]

I made it like 7 months ago
guess they finally decided to say "no fuck you" to me .w.

[ornate stump]

I'm asking for "how" not "when" though.

[wild star]

in the vcc o-o

I think
my memory is poorly

[ornate stump]

What does it said when you're trying to open your project now?

[wild star]

literally nothing

all it does is briefly flash a blue line at the bottom and nothing else

in the unity hub anyway

[ornate stump]

You should open project via VCC.

[wild star]

this is what happens when I try to do that

[ornate stump]

If you already have that version installed then you have to set unity path in the VCC settings.

[wild star]

I do not, I uninstalled everything because I figured a fresh start would let me make new projects

it did not

[junior void]

well, you need unity

[ornate stump]

Then you have to install unity.

[wild star]

reinstalling it now

[wild star]

why tf did downloading a unity thing download this
feels very bloatware-y

[ornate stump]

Because you tell it to also download visual studio.

[wild star]

no tf I ain't, how do I remove it

nvm found it

[ornate stump]

When before downloading, there is a checkbox to download it.

[somber osprey]

how do I prevent this heart from disappearing when someone grts too close?

this is using Poiyomi shaders

I was told to replace Skinned mesh renderer with default renderer + mesh filter but it doesn't work

[ornate stump]

Do you see its bounds box in the scene?

[somber osprey]

yes. the bounds is big enough that the avatar and the heart itself is in it

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot unity screen without cropping to confirm?

[ornate stump]

You should have only one renderer component on it though.

[somber osprey]

I forgot I left it there

but even with only one renderer component (Skinned Mesh renderer only present), it still happens

[ornate stump]

Make sure that you revert the mesh and root bone slot too.

[wary wedge]

How do i fix this?
The wings move even without the toggle being on
The first pic is what it should be like in its idle state

[junior void]

looks like an animation is moving them that infinitely just rolls

[wary wedge]

Yeah

The idle animation doesnt have them move either

[somber osprey]

that didn't fix it

I only done revert root bone cause revery mesh will change its shape to the one i don't like

[junior void]

so there is an animation setup

[wary wedge]

?

[junior void]

is there?

did you animate the wings

[wary wedge]

Only for the wings animation

[ornate stump]

Do you actually have to replace the mesh? You should better put the whole fbx file containing that mesh, instead of just replacing only mesh slot.

[somber osprey]

I imported the fbx to get its mesh

idk how else to replace the model with something else

[junior void]

right so then how did you set up the toggle/logic for this

[ornate stump]

You just drag that into the scene.

[somber osprey]

yeah but it won't have the see through shaders that this one uses, that's the problem

[ornate stump]

Then you just have to change material after you put it in the scene like you did before.

[junior void]

can you please not use your phone to take videos i cant see anything on

[somber osprey]

then is there a way to Copy the Material to that one?

cause I don't wanna do it manually

[ornate stump]

You don't have to create new material. You already have the material so put that material into another mesh.

[somber osprey]

Oh...that's it?

last time I tried it, it didn't let me for some reason

[ornate stump]

You likely did something incorrectly.

Or misunderstanding something.

[somber osprey]

my unity being bugged could be one of them

even my VRChat build is really bugged

[junior void]

have you tried going into play mode using gesture manager and having a look at how this animation and the parameter for it behave live while using it?

[somber osprey]

I accidentally left 2 heart models on , but that issue still happens on both cases

[ornate stump]

Does it actually gradually fade away or abruptly disappear?

[somber osprey]

abruptly disappear

[ornate stump]

Does the material shader use fade from distance or similar?

[somber osprey]

I don't know how to check that

maybe this can tell you something

[wary wedge]

Do i look in debug or tools for that?

[ornate stump]

It's in Special FX section.

[somber osprey]

only glitter / Sparkle is being used

[ornate stump]

You're using stencil, what does other material that does writing to stencil look like?

[somber osprey]

the body of the avatar is using this

[ornate stump]

And its render queue?

[somber osprey]

2000

[ornate stump]

So the body is in same queue number as the shirt?

[somber osprey]

the shirt doesn't have stencil

should I do that as well?

[ornate stump]

That mean the heart disappear because some time shirt got rendered before the body. When that happen, stencil will not get written, making the heart dissapears.

[somber osprey]

so I give the shirt the stencil or no?

[ornate stump]

That one of the option.

[somber osprey]

actually the shirt has the same setting as the body

[somber osprey]

so I'm not sure what to fix

[ornate stump]

Then don't use stencil on the heart first to verify it's whether the stencil problem or not.

At least changing stencil compare to Always in heart material.

[somber osprey]

Removing the stencils got rid of the problem. So stencils is an issue

so how do I properly set it up?

my goal is to prevent the heart from being see through everything

[ornate stump]

Try changing outline stencil Pass to Replace too.

[somber osprey]

The heart right?
then after that upload the avi to test it?

[ornate stump]

The shirt and body

[somber osprey]

okay I think that fixed it. thank you

[naive mango]

Sorry dude no idea then

[somber osprey]

why can't I press play or Preview the animation?

[junior void]

Likely the animation is not within a avatar context, just a standalone file

[somber osprey]

so how do I check its animation?

[junior void]

You should be able to drag it onto your avatar from assets folder

Then select Avi and the animation in the Avi context

[somber osprey]

Drag...what to where?

this animation is being used

[junior void]

You can drag the animation file onto your avatar

[somber osprey]

I dragged the Animation onto the avatar, and it just made this Shion thing in the animation folder

[junior void]

Or if you have the controller it was made with, you can use that too

[somber osprey]

its tied to AFK animation

[junior void]

Yes it will create a controller, that's normal

[somber osprey]

so seeing "Body" and "shion" is normal?

so after that...how can I check it in the scene menu (not through play mode)

[junior void]

Select your avatar and go to animation window

See if you now can select animations from the drop-down close to the record button

The animation you dragged on should be in said list

[somber osprey]

okay so if I wanna test the animation, I have to drag this animation into the avatar prefab?

[junior void]

Not always

See it made the shion controller

[somber sequoia]

Put the controller that animation is on into your avatar's Animator component, which is on the root

[junior void]

God this phone, stop auto correcting me lol

[somber osprey]

Yeah but I'm still confused

[somber osprey]

The Root as in...?

[junior void]

Animations are made on controllers. The shion controller appeared because you dragged the animation onto your avatar

The root object is your topmost avatar object

Where your avatar descriptor is on

At the top of that descriptor is animator component. In there, the shion controller will be now

[somber sequoia]

root = top-level object in a tree. The hierarchy view is a tree view.

[somber osprey]

so in this case, Shion?

[junior void]

The shion controller put the animation in avatar context if you will

Yes

[somber sequoia]

Looks like it, but you did crop that so I can't actually see the top of that hierarchy.

[somber sequoia]

If that's where the Avatar Descriptor is, and also the Animator component, then yes, that.

aaand there's the Animator component, yup.

[somber osprey]

I just clicked the shion in the bottom and it opened that up

[junior void]

Think about it this way

If you have an animation, how will you preview it? Well, first of all, how would unity magically know with what avatar you want to see it? That's why you need the animation to literally be tied to the avatar, thru the animator

[somber osprey]

so in other words I have the keyframes of the animation

but unity doesn't know which keyframes do these belong to?

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure I understand that last sentence at all

[junior void]

An animation is a file that contains movement. You cannot view movement without a puppet

[somber osprey]

as in, unity doesn't know which model or assets uses these keyframes?

[somber sequoia]

but that information is what's in the .anim file

the first field in each line is the path to the object it's animating

[somber osprey]

alright, well now working more on this. I have new problem

I took the existing clothing mesh and removed some part of it, basically getting the "pants" part out of it. The model and the rig works

but its texture doesn't. I'm using the same full clothing texture it came with, is there a way I can fix this via masking or anything else?

[somber sequoia]

a) removed mesh part how?
b) what do you mean not working?

[somber osprey]

a) Blender
b) this is what the model looks like without any textures

and this is what the original model I took the part out looks like with its textures it came with

[somber sequoia]

ok I'm not really sure what you did here, is that the same material?

[somber osprey]

the material you see in the 2nd pic, is what I applied that same material over this shorts model

which ended up looking like this

does that help?

[somber sequoia]

not really

if the UV map is the same then the material should work the same

[somber osprey]

Then....hwo else could I explain this easier?

[somber osprey]

idk if they're same or not

This is the original UV map it came with, the 2nd pic is the UV map after I deledted part of the model in blender

[somber sequoia]

looks like you didn't move any islands so I assume it would still work

[somber osprey]

oh I think I know why

the UV map is 2048, but the UV map that blender exported is 1024

is that why?

[somber sequoia]

UV maps have no real resolution

[somber osprey]

then is it a shader issue?

cause i don't wanna remake a shader from scratch

[somber sequoia]

Yeah I wouldn't expect you'd have to remake the shader

[somber osprey]

then any idea how to fix it?

there's no lilToon discord server that I can report my issue with

[somber sequoia]

I'm not really sure what's wrong from here, sorry

[somber osprey]

well I guess i have to remake the shader

but first thiing, why is the shader greyed out?

[somber sequoia]

because that material is the on embedded in the .fbx file, you can't edit it. You can replace it though.

[somber osprey]

may you tell me how?

[somber sequoia]

drag a new material into the slot on the mesh renderer object

[somber osprey]

Okay, now why can't I find this shader name in unity?

when I type in Hidden or liltoon, its not the one that this one is using

[somber sequoia]

"hidden" is probably because that's locked, but I don't know how that shader works so that's all I know there.
Otherwise, if you can't find a shader, perhaps you didn't install it?

[somber osprey]

it is installed

[somber sequoia]

okay. I don't use that shader so no idea otherwise.

[somber osprey]

Dang...wish there's a guide on this kind of stuff

[somber sequoia]

I'd expect there's documentation for it

[ornate stump]

Hidden/liltoon is just a liltoon with extra options enabled.

[somber osprey]

does that mean I can get it?

cause I'm trying to recreate the shader from scratch

[somber sequoia]

... recreate the shader?

do you mean "material" here?

[somber osprey]

yeah that sorry

[somber sequoia]

oh okay

very different 🙂

[somber osprey]

cause dragging an existing materal onto the pant doesn't work, so I might as well remake it

[somber osprey]

I'm new to this, sorry

[ornate stump]

recreate the shader from scratch
That is an entirely different topic.

[somber sequoia]

np.

[somber osprey]

sorry I mean recreate the material that uses Liltoon

cause using an existing material breaks it

[ornate stump]

If it's outline, you likely just have to change the outline width by dividing it by 100.

[somber osprey]

it is outline but I don't have the exact one for it

I have "OutlineOnly" which I don't think it uses

[ornate stump]

Just select a regular liltoon and enable outline option.

[somber osprey]

where do I find outline option?

Rendering Mode doesn't have it

[ornate stump]

Scroll down.

[somber osprey]

Advanced -> Outline?

[ornate stump]

Obviously.

[somber osprey]

okay, making sure

Oh....

@somber sequoia that weird thing you're seeing?

that was the outline bug

[somber sequoia]

outline bug?

[somber osprey]

look, its the same issue again with a Default liltoon

[ornate stump]

Outline width got scaled with object scale.

[somber sequoia]

ahhh

yeah I have no idea how that shader works, never used it.

[somber osprey]

which....also gets affected if I edited its mesh?

[ornate stump]

It's more because of improper scale settings when exporting fbx.

[somber sequoia]

oh was this recently re-exported from blender with different scaling settings?

make sure you set "apply scalings" to "FBX All" unless you know it should be otherwise, in which case make sure it's set to that.

[somber osprey]

yes but I didn't touch the scaling settings

I just dragged the fbx into the blender and click import

[somber sequoia]

And when you exported from blender?

[somber osprey]

I just did export mesh and armature, that's it

so I guess I should export the fbx again?

[somber sequoia]

Yes - and look at the setting I just mentioned, in the FBX export dialog

[somber sequoia]

Yes, in there.

[somber osprey]

the scale is 1.0 by default

so...that shouldn't break it, right?

[ornate stump]

make sure you set "apply scalings" to "FBX All" unless you know it should be otherwise, in which case make sure it's set to that.

[somber osprey]

in Import or export?

or should I retry this whole thing?

[ornate stump]

It's more because of improper scale settings when exporting fbx.

[somber osprey]

also what do you mean "FBX all?"

[somber sequoia]

It's literally in that image you just pasted, "apply scalings"

[somber osprey]

okay now I'm getting more confused

does that mean everything here is correct?

[somber sequoia]

no it does not

you didn't do what I said.

I'd also uncheck the one about leaf bones, near the bottom.

[somber osprey]

yeah i'm blind, Idk how I didn't see that

now its correct?

[ornate stump]

Should be.

[somber sequoia]

Yeah otherwise you don't need to change anything.

[somber osprey]

Oh that fixed it.

okay thank you

also one more thing

I wanna import like a cloth from a different game onto this character (in blender)

is there anything I should be concern about to make the merge or rigging be correct? like vertex group, weight paints, anything?

[somber sequoia]

definitely be concerned about all of that

[thin rivet]

Hi everyone,
I have a crazy idea to have a character's head able to turn like an owl (left and right rotation amplified by 3x, rest unaffected)

I have a head bone with nothing rigged to act as the actual head bone, and then a dummy one in the same location, and the dummy one has a zeroed position and scale constraint
And then I have 2 rotation constraints-
One where only the Y axis is frozen, local space, and a weight of 3
Another with the X and Z axes frozen, local space, with a weight of 1

It works when only rotating the head to the side, but it freaks out and bends in random directions if you look up or down

Any ideas on how to fix that?

[somber osprey]

by the way. How do I fix my character sitting too low on the seats?

[balmy barn]

stations always been jank - get taller, some stations have might have a adjust (made a few of them on world and avatar)

[somber osprey]

but someone said its my avatar issue

[night ember]

you are sat based entirely on the root of your avatar
which should be at the feet

after that you are just slapped into a sitting pose or if you have fbt and have it specifically let you use fbt
whatever pose you are physically in

[somber osprey]

I'm on non-vr so what should I do to fix this?

[night ember]

theres not much to fix other than the person moving the station

the placement is entirely based on the root of your avatar which is fucked if you arent the specific height the person is needing

[somber osprey]

by station you mean the seat box?

would goco loco fix it?

idk how to implment it tho

[junior void]

What the...

How's one related to the other here

[somber osprey]

cause goco loco has like levitation thing

[junior void]

I don't think that works when in a seat

I could be wrong

Regardless, gogo is a drag n drop prefab so ez to install

[somber osprey]

oh. so only way to fix that is changing your avi height while seated?

what about editing the gogo loco?

cause I wanna do one thing but idk if its possible

[junior void]

Seats are the most unpredictable thing in the sdk

[arctic ginkgo]

This is because the "freeze axes" setting is based on the axes of the parent object. You should have the weight painted bone parented to the head bone, then only freeze the Y axis and enable "solve in local space"

[little pike]

?? says i can only use shaders in the Vrchat/Mobile folder, i choose one of those appropriate for my mesh and it says this

[night ember]

Alpha blended is a world shader

[little pike]

then why is it not in the Vrchat/Mobile/WORLD folder 🍜

oh no custom emojis here lmao

[night ember]

Because every shader is packaged together

And its a particle shader

Quest avatars dont support alpha transparency at all because of how shit it is for performance

[spiral jay]

I used addictive. It works well for my stuff

[little pike]

on avatars?

[spiral jay]

Also I have a question. So I uploaded the quest version of my avatar and everything looks fine. The boobs,thighs,hair,and butt phys work. The texture are a okay too but for some reason no matter what I do the view position is always on the top of the head despite it being inside the head in unity???

[spiral jay]

Yes. I just retexture the transparent to a different color and it works well.

[ocean snow]

how would i go about having shading like this with poiyomi? cause so far my pomni looks like this

[thin rivet]

Thank you! Will try that when I'm able, they currently share a parent (the neck)

[thin rivet]

Though, is there a different way? I was hoping that the head bone could move independently of the weighted head so that they can "cast" their voice

edit:
Maybe another weightless bone in the same spot that they're both parented to?

[round prairie]

i have a question, does anyone have a gogo loco prefab for vrcfury? I don't know how to fix this, its my first time making an avatar T-T

[somber sequoia]

it's available in the gogo loco package

https://gogoloco.net/ - likely click "download (using VCC)"

[cobalt cloak]

eny idea why the skelton is still visible even though the animation is supposed to turn off the game object

[somber sequoia]

probably we'd need some more context for that one

[cobalt cloak]

what do you need

[somber sequoia]

what is "the skeleton" here? and in what situation is this happening?

[cobalt cloak]

I have an animation/toggle where my mesh becomes invisible and the skeleton shows when someone pulls my tail or I activate the toggle. The thing is, the skeleton is not invisible when the toggle is inactive. I can see it.

[somber sequoia]

what is the skeleton though?

another mesh object?

[cobalt cloak]

a game objekt skeleton

wait i send screanshot

[somber sequoia]

that would probably help

But my next question is "becomes invisible how exactly?"

[somber sequoia]

ok so you're hiding the body and showing the skeleton - are you just enabling/disabling the game objects?

[cobalt cloak]

it shoud be invis wen the animation is not playing bc i have the skeletonOff animation were the gameobjekt gets turned off

[cobalt cloak]

yes

[somber sequoia]

I don't see why it would be visible when off then.