avatar-help

[junior void]

in the cc app, go to "manage project"

[mint badge]

how do i get this edge shading effect?

[vague spade]

2022.3.22f1 for the unity

idk if thats what youre asking

[mint badge]

kinda hard to see

[junior void]

thats your unity version

i meant base sdk

[vague spade]

im really new to uploading im ngl. idk if this helps out in any way

[junior void]

update

vrcfury too

[vague spade]

ill lyk when its done cuz my wifi doodoo today

[junior void]

you also have a vcc app update available. might as well do that too

then upload again and see

[vague spade]

it will take a long time but ill try that :D

tysm

[vague spade]

now its saying this:

[junior void]

hit clear, see what stays

most important errors are always at the top

[vague spade]

now vrcc wont work :(( im gonna try to redownload it but yeah </3

[junior void]

ye, crappy internet

[vague spade]

its never done that tho

thats what confuses me

[mint badge]

what do i have to do to get this shader effect is it like a dept map or smt?

[vague spade]

oh well, ill just pray the avatar creator replies to me for an upload

tysm for trying to help me tho <3

[mint badge]

how do i check the uv map in blender i have the body mesh in here but it doesnt show me the uv map

nvm wasnt in editing mode

💀

i dont understnad how it knows what to highlight if its all just one texture

[vapid slate]

alright.... i got my avatar ready.... everything is fine but the sdk is not 'working'...?

[gaunt knoll]

You don't have avatar Descriptor on your avi

[vapid slate]

how do i fix it? through the vrc companion?

[gaunt knoll]

In unity

Hang on let me load it up

[ornate stump]

Did you actually create project for avatar? If it's asking for scene descriptor, that's the world project, not avatar.

[vapid slate]

it was one of those "open existing project" type ones...

[gaunt knoll]

Huh

[ornate stump]

Does it show sdk type and version when you see in Manage Project in vcc?

[gaunt knoll]

Just did I was correct

[vapid slate]

omg it was the world sdk not avatar.... the person that made this is slow

[gaunt knoll]

xD

didnt see that on my phone

you would have to export it

[ornate stump]

World toolkit can be imported into avatar project, for inspecting build package size.

[gaunt knoll]

thats a nice peace of knowledge

[mint badge]

i dont understand how this shader works 🫠

[gaunt knoll]

Piece*

[ornate stump]

Shader's ultimate job is just to calculate color on certain pixel on screen.

[mint badge]

yea so these claws have like these 3 diff colors idk where it gets these from

kinda hard to see

[ornate stump]

It determines texture location from it's uvmap.

[mint badge]

i did and its in a solid color

[ornate stump]

Because its texture underneat is solid color right?

[mint badge]

yea this is the same texture thats used by the avi rn

there is a sec uv map but that one doesnt line up with anything

[ornate stump]

I think it has slight gradient from top to bottom.

[mint badge]

yea but there is like a kinda edge effect that they have wich i cant explain myself

maybe you can see it beter here

[ornate stump]

The middle part portion end at the middle of gradient which is darker, so you see the part is darker than the edge.

[mint badge]

yea thats from start to tip

the gradiant is only top to bottom

but the effect i mean is only on the tips

and even then i have the sword on the same positon on the uv map an its just solid color no nothing

[ornate stump]

Select only the face at the tip and see where the uvmap located.

[mint badge]

in the middle

[ornate stump]

and the tip?

[ornate stump]

How the preview looks different from the top image?

[mint badge]

wdym

[ornate stump]

This one looks more yellow.

[mint badge]

i just put on the texture and the other one is in unity with the shaders

so i tought i had smt to do with the shaders

[ornate stump]

Then it probably is outline.

[mint badge]

this is how i have the sword

[mint badge]

how do i make one?

[ornate stump]

Why do you ask? I meant if you had the different color at the tip, that's outline.

[mint badge]

yea im trying to do the same with my sword

thats why i was trying to firgure out why its doing that

[ornate stump]

Are you using same material for both sword and claws?

[mint badge]

yep

[ornate stump]

Same material, not just shader.

[mint badge]

yep

[ornate stump]

How the sword look like now?

[ornate stump]

It has as slight outline already.

[mint badge]

not rly you cant tell the edge from the falt side at all

[ornate stump]

Can you circle the part you want to replicate in this image?

[mint badge]

its like super hard to see lemme try

you see that 3 color cradent

[ornate stump]

The left gradient likely is outline, the 2nd and 3rd are separated uvmap.

[mint badge]

lemme try smt rq

[ornate stump]

You see here the middle part is not connected to the edge part.

So do the same as the sword UV.

[mint badge]

yea lemme recreat that rq

[ornate stump]

Outline is view dependent, so if you move view camera around, the outline will move too.

[mint badge]

yes

[ornate stump]

So you were talking about 2 things simultaneously which was confused me.

[mint badge]

rn im trying to make the second color you told me to fix

idk why its not doing it

the is the uv map rn

[ornate stump]

It rather look you didn't actually separate the edge part from the middle.

[mint badge]

thats the edge at the base

[ornate stump]

How the sword actually look like in edit mode?

[mint badge]

and thats the edge im trying to highlight

and then theres this map

but there is also a gradent there so idk

think this is a texture for the recoloring

[ornate stump]

You would have to see which slot this texture go into, not just guessing it.

[mint badge]

i think i found smt one sec

[ornate stump]

Did you do the same on both side?

[mint badge]

i have a mirror modifier for the other side

[ornate stump]

No. The top side and bottom side.

[mint badge]

you mean the base?

pretty sure this is the shading map but it doesnt line up at all

[ornate stump]

It's normal map.

[mint badge]

oh

[vapid slate]

when im in play mode, it wont let me click anything in the hierarchy, will this affect the in game toggles or no?

so i went back into normal mode...and everything turned red...

[vagrant dock]

what best shape to make each part of the hair

[gaunt knoll]

Unpackage everything

[vapid slate]

okay

[junior void]

are you telling people to unpack their prefabs o.O

[gaunt knoll]

I know I said everything but I just meant the Avi

Or did that change recently

[balmy barn]

never ever unpack avatar , red is missing meshes

if you ever bring that av into blender fbx cant be overwritten

unpacked avatar in scene got no clue how link a newer version of it

[night ember]

also dont delete the prefab if its a prefab you dragged in

[river jewel]

2 things to dump out there:

1. I WAS NOT HOME THE WHOLE TIME so I sorta kinda made a white lie there

2. I am home now and uh, do I check in assets for that checkbox coz well, this happened

[night ember]

thats not a component nor the animator

[river jewel]

ooh right

its the inspector

of course :')

[river jewel]

so uuuh where is the aniamtion component exactly? :"D

[night ember]

the root

and "animator" component not animation

[river jewel]

its like right here, and its ticked too

[night ember]

then it would animate

[river jewel]

yea, it would 😔

[tardy grail]

Hiya, so I’m having issues with my gogoloco? And I’m not sure why

But it won’t show up in my radial

I’m using the prefab, but it won’t work 😭

[junior void]

What prefab

[vapid slate]

k, how to show breasts on a avaata (they are toggleable)

also how do i get my stuff to stop moving like that?

[mint badge]

is there anything wrong with this

its like doing nothing

[radiant night]

Im assuming you are talking about the hair, go to the physbone for the hair, usually the component is on the hair's root bone

Then increase the stiffness value

Should be somewhere around here, look for the hair root bone

[vapid slate]

okay

i imported the asset

[radiant night]

That should probably be a boolean, not a float or integer, go to the animator tab then parameters, delete the sword one and then replace it with a boolean, make sure it has the EXACT same name

Then do the same in the avatar's parameter menu

[mint badge]

alr

[radiant night]

I like to think about the animation layers like flowing water, when it starts it will immediately flow to the sword out state and stay like that until something changes the sword parameter and opens the gate, (fulfills the condition)

It always trys to keep moving to the next state until something stops it

[unreal haven]

Im so confused

why vrchat sdk

why

[radiant night]

You are trying to upload a quest or ios version with an unsuported shader, quest and ios devices can only use the specialized shaders provided by VRChat

Thats one of the main reasons why avatars look different on quest and pc\

[unreal haven]

it is a shader provided by vrchat for mobile

[radiant night]

Oh wait, yeah

[unreal haven]

Im posting this more as a joke

I dont need help

its just kinda funny

[radiant night]

uhm, sdk might just be tweaking

Most of the time my avatar has a dummy thicc tail and I want the sweater to reflect that, instead of just having it clip through I want it to be raised by the tail and have correct weights to match, sometimes I can remove the tail though, I have a shapekey that puts it back to normal, is it possible to toggle the weight of the tail bones on the sweater depending on if its on or off?

WITHOUT using a completely seperate mesh

[vagrant dock]

can anyone teach me how to make hair

[radiant night]

Or would it be possible to keep the tail bones locked in place with a toggle so the sweater isnt affected?

That... can be very difficult, you need to know how to model or sculpt, weight it properly, and set up physbones, you really should just buy some pre-existing asset and use that

[unreal haven]

that's like 5 diffrent skills you need to learn

[vapid slate]

ok, its still doing it and ive been playing around with it for like 10 minutes, ive done evreything u said to do and it wont stop

[radiant night]

If you want a specific style of hair send a reference I can maybe find an asset that looks similar

[vagrant dock]

ha hold on

this is what my hair looks like somewhat irl i can make it it just be long journey

[vapid slate]

i have one more hair i can try

[radiant night]

Yikes, that severly limits the amount of options, almost all existing vrc hair assets are for longer/ more feminine hair styles

[vagrant dock]

yup that why im makign my own

[radiant night]

Since its so short you probably wouldnt need to know how to weight paint but you still need to know how to model, sculpt, make textures, and set up materials

I cant help you with that, sorry

[vagrant dock]

i can model pretty good

but random generated looking things is smt i struggle with

[radiant night]

Ok, I might have something you can work with

If you can model it, you can use this free hair texture and color it yourself

You will still have to make the UV's for it though

https://gell3d.gumroad.com/l/textureshair?layout=profile&recommended_by=library

[vagrant dock]

easy thx

[vapid slate]

when im adding clothes, do i need to attach it to the avatar {through armature}

[radiant night]

Yes, if it already has an armature and its made for the same base just use modular avatar

If not though you need to know how to weight paint

[vapid slate]

okk

ive given up on the hair

[strange sparrow]

i have everything installed so it should work??

i'm using VRCCC so idk how it's not working

[gaunt knoll]

yeah download

[strange sparrow]

i tried that

i'm gonna try again then i guess

[gaunt knoll]

open unity hub

[strange sparrow]

ok

now whut

[strange sparrow]

everything's installed

it's just not showing up in unity editor

[gaunt knoll]

try this one again

[strange sparrow]

ok

[gaunt knoll]

take a screen shot of the whole screen not just that

[strange sparrow]

for some reason there's 2

??

[gaunt knoll]

one moment

[strange sparrow]

i'm gonna try installing it to the other one

idk why it's doing that

[gaunt knoll]

okay i see open the x86

open its all the and uninstall the 84x one

[strange sparrow]

i'm gonna try to install it to the editor that was active that wasn't showing the build targets

the editor that opens is the one that isnt x86

[gaunt knoll]

thats out of date

if anything thing unistall them both

[vapid slate]

@radiant night When i attach the clothes to the avatar (made for the same avatar) and i go into play mode, they get really messed up and idk how to fix it

[gaunt knoll]

you using arm link?

[strange sparrow]

it works now

[vapid slate]

YEP, unity crashed and i lost EVERYTHING.

I need someone to tell me that theres a way to get it back... ive worked on this avi for 10 hours+..

[strange sparrow]

real sorry that happened

but

Ctrl+S

every chance you get

so it doesn't happen again\

[shy wadi]

i Need help

[drowsy crane]

Its not really about an avatar but instead a fursuit base, im trying to isolate the head and fluff on blender on the nardo avatar but idk how to delete the arms, legs, tail, and torso without deleting the full body mesh🤕

[junior void]

Select cut edge in edit mode, hit v to separate. Then hover mouse over body, hit l to mark all linked and x to delete

[drowsy crane]

Where do I find cut edge? Im new to this

[mint badge]

thats what i did

[untold minnow]

ehy does this happen? Its literally just giving me a error for everything I use

I've even used just a solid color before and It still denied it

[shy wadi]

HELLO!

ps

[night ember]

remove the avatar id in the pipeline manager

[round comet]

You’ve gotta share your issue

Otherwise people can’t help accordingly

[round comet]

Well it says your avatar doesn’t have a descriptor, so you need to add one as a component

You can click “Add Component” then add “VRC Avatar Descriptor”

[shy wadi]

ok, thanks

[round comet]

No problem

[shy wadi]

dumb question but i don't know how to do that

i use unreal engine

xd

[junior void]

Select the dots where you want to cut the head off

Please watch at least one simple tutorial

[round comet]

Click on the avatar in your hierarchy tab, then when the info pops up in your inspector tab scroll to add component

[vapid slate]

yeah so.... idk how to fix ts..

supposed to look like this

[mint badge]

can someone tell me how to best do this im trying to do a simple toggle with an animation but it just doesnt do anything

[night ember]

that shows nothing useful

what are the transition conditions

[stable citrus]

Can you show us your animation transitions plz

[night ember]

what are the actual animations

[mint badge]

other one is the same just faulse

[mint badge]

its like a pop out animation for this sword

[night ember]

that didnt show me what the animation actually does

[stable citrus]

Have Unchecked "Has exit time"

[mint badge]

basicly just scaled and moved it

[mint badge]

alr

on both?

still doesnt work

[stable citrus]

What about the parameter / Layer / animation etc...

[mint badge]

parameters are the same

wdym with layers?

[main remnant]

Layers on the animator controller. I don't get why people come here asking how to do something without doing a minimum research beforehand. Watching a tutorial of how to implement animations would help you better and faster than this

[mint badge]

and that is the whole animation just resizeing and moving

[mint badge]

mb

[stable citrus]

Check whether your parameter is a Boolean.
Check that the weight of your layer is equal to 1.
Check whether you have ticked ‘Write Defaults’ on both states.
Check whether you have unticked ‘Has Exit time’ on both transitions.
Check that both conditions are correct.

If it still does not work, the problem is either with your Expression menu, your paremeter or your animation itself.

[somber vessel]

im not sure where to ask this, but ive been trying to set up the quest pro all day and its just not working, when i turn on developer mode on the mobile app it works it says its on but on the pc meta horizon app, the beta tab will not appear no matter what i do, so i cant get the face tracking to work in game. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[gaunt knoll]

do you have vrcfacetracking app on

@somber vessel

[mint badge]

tysm it was the weight why is that even a thing

[stable citrus]

[somber vessel]

yes, i installed the quest pro module

[gaunt knoll]

turned it on

[somber vessel]

i believe so, how would i go about checking?

[gaunt knoll]

got a tick and it says your avis paramaters

[somber vessel]

do i have to be on vrc for this to work? or for it to connect?

mine just says initializing modules

[gaunt knoll]

it should load the module

what module are you using

[somber vessel]

alxr local, my friend said that one works for him and it initialized so im trying that one rn

[gaunt knoll]

you both using the same wireless link

[somber vessel]

im not sure what you mean, my friend also has the quest pro n they are trying to help. the module they told me to use is showing up in vrcfacetracking app, the parameters and everything, but in game when i turn it on its not working

[junior void]

Fun fact: I'm using quest pro too but I use virtual desktop module bc that's my streamer app

[somber vessel]

i looked on youtube and every video says i need to put my quest into developer mode but on the pc app the beta tab wont appear

[junior void]

I did that using my phone

[somber vessel]

i dont have virtual desktop xp im trying to use it through a link cable

[somber vessel]

i have the option turned on in the mobile app but its just not working in game, im kinda at a loss haha

i have the vrc turned on on my avi, osc is enabled its just not working, im not sure if im missing something or

[junior void]

Did you reboot your quest since turning on dev mode

Face tracking enabled on quest?

[somber vessel]

yes, ive restarted my headset and pc a bunch of times, ive tried turning it off n back on

[stoic zinc]

Is it normal to take time?

[junior void]

I remember setting a port in steam too

[gaunt knoll]

Fun fact: the guy who made virtual desktop refuses to make his software compatible with anything and he wants other company to use his software and hes a ...

[junior void]

Did you maybe miss that

[somber vessel]

the options in the quest menu are eye tracking and natural face expressions, i have those both on

[hardy musk]

hello i keep getting this error when uploading any avi i have updated everything even restarted my pc and still nothing cant upload avis at all

i dnt know how to fix it

[somber vessel]

wdym?

[gaunt knoll]

yes thats normal

[night ember]

show the whole console

[hardy musk]

okay

[junior void]

When I followed vrcft setup guide, it says to set a port in steam

It's on the vrcft docs

Quick setup guide iirc

[somber vessel]

is there a link or anything to this? i cant seem to find what ur talking abt

[hardy musk]

these are all my errors inculding the one i keep getting

[night ember]

thats a lot of missing scripts

[hardy musk]

yeah im not 100% sure why i downloded everything

[night ember]

are you sure you have?

[junior void]

Like I said it used to be on vrcft site. Maybe it's outdated today idk

[hardy musk]

but that null error i keep gettting no matter what

i cant even build any avatar

[junior void]

Does the app load Avi parameters?

[hardy musk]

this error happens even on avis i have prevously uplloaded

ive even reinstalled the sdk and it still wont work

[night ember]

that doesnt tell you anything error-wise

its just an error that happens when someone else causes an error

[hardy musk]

oh?

[night ember]

no matter what errors that one will always pop up

[hardy musk]

this is the most recent error i got

[night ember]

yea?

its just telling you it failed

clear the console and try again and show ALL the errors

[hardy musk]

yeah but its not building at all thats all that pops up

okay

[night ember]

again you have missing scripts

looks like a bunch of vrcfury scripts

[hardy musk]

so should i jut re import the avi?

[night ember]

have you actually imported everything required

[hardy musk]

i mean ive prevously uploaded it with no issues

[junior void]

Vrcf, ft and gogo

[hardy musk]

yeah it was fine a few days ago

now not just this avi but any avi i try to upload will do this

[night ember]

well do you actually have the required stuff in the project

like fury

[hardy musk]

i belive so

ill try reimporting fury

[whole escarp]

Reimport jerrys templates as well

[hardy musk]

okay just re imported both

im gonna try uploading again

[whole escarp]

I would reload sdk for good measure

[hardy musk]

okay yeah that appears to have fixed it

thank you 🙂

[brave stirrup]

Anyone interested in making an avatar for a real biker?

[gentle brook]

hello im trying to do a small rotation constraint on my robot avatar and for some reason the bone is rotating strangely. the wierd thing sticking out is suposed to rotate with the wrist only on the y axis making the arm rotate when the wrist rotates, but its rotating on its own

this is in unity

the hand and the forearm are in the same level of heirship and there is a rotation constraint in the forearm to the hand locking only to affect the y angle of the bone

[vapid oar]

How many bones should I use max for ears and tails to still be good for quest, I think i want to add some physbones so they can flow around when moving

[balmy barn]

long as you have spare transforms use whatever you have 64 max/8 components (both ears can be done with one) , mine usually 2-3 each , some of the stiffer one only need 1 each

[lilac musk]

What does that mean?

[night ember]

this is not a commission server
go to vrctraders for that

[vapid oar]

What dp transforms do exactly?

[balmy barn]

amount of bones affected by a physbone component

think gameobjects / meshes can count too

[vapid oar]

Interesting alright

[night ember]

position rotation scale of that specific object
for physbones specifically how many are under the root of the physbone

[vapid oar]

Yeah I just gotta learn about how physbones even work, i assume thats what youd use to have that "wave" effect

[pure thicket]

will the sdk pop up a warning if you go over the max physbones for quest then?

i dont think i ever will im wondering just in case

[night ember]

physbones for the default settings at least
all it does is rotate the root bone
with the endpoint being a second object or the endpoint setting
if there is a 3rd object down the list then the second object would also rotate
the endpoint dictates the original rotation of the physbone which dictates the physics
that line you see when you have the gyzmos enabled is how the physbone is rotated

stuff like stretch and squish
all that does is just moves the object closer or further away from the root
or subsequent child objects compared to the parent object

[balmy barn]

one component and 1 bone affected = 1 transform , endpoint need to be used if you only have one or it wont move

sdk will yell at you when it goes over limits sure

[vapid oar]

Recap, are root bones like the head/hip bones? The "root"/main controller

[night ember]

the top most object containing objects

like

root>

child

[vapid oar]

I see okay

[night ember]

the last bone in the chain will not be affected by physbones unless you use the endpoint which fakes the endbone

[vapid oar]

Damn alright

Lot to learn lmao, idk sht about rigging just yet

[night ember]

if a bone has multiple children
then itd act as a root and not have affect

[vapid oar]

So the root should always obviously be at the "lowest" part of the ears/tail

[night ember]

the base yes

[night ember]

itd be highest in hierarchy cause its top down

[vapid oar]

Then the physbone connects to all "children" as like a single physbone

[night ember]

yes

[vapid oar]

Sorry I mean like on the mesh itself, base of tail and ears yk

[vapid oar]

Alright sounds good

[night ember]

technically yes?

[vapid oar]

Ohhhh now I understand what it means by physbones affected transforms

Learning lmao

[night ember]

the amount of objects the physbone is actually moving

[vapid oar]

Yeah

[night ember]

or well trying to move cause constraints overwrite

[vapid oar]

So you can have a ton of stuff moving with 1 physbone it looks like from the limits

On mobile

Thats cool

Question about textures, it says max memory is 40mb, im assuming just 1 single 2k texture fits in that range?

Idk if im checking the right place but the 2k texture I got is 600kb so seems fine

[night ember]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

its the amount of memory it takes up not storage

[vapid oar]

Ohh

[night ember]

like uncompressed

there is also a 10mb max download size

[vapid oar]

2k is probably pushing it then right

[spiral jay]

How do I fix this?

[night ember]

not really

though you dont need bigger than that

[night ember]

"this"

[vapid oar]

Yeah I was worried id have to shrink down to 1k for it do be decent

Got 1 whole avatar in 1 texture right now

[night ember]

depends on the image

[vapid oar]

Res and density is fine for me

[night ember]

like you dont need 2k for an eyeball

[round comet]

Turn off culling

[vapid oar]

Yeah 💀

[spiral jay]

😭 like idk what to call it.

[night ember]

but if its the avatar as a whole then 2k is fine

[vapid oar]

Yeah my entire avatar is running on 2k

[spiral jay]

Oh hey sistaaaaaa. How do u do that?

[vapid oar]

The face im gonna do a little different though

[round comet]

It should be in the shader settings. Are you using poiyomi or quest shaders?

[night ember]

my entire avatar clothing and all is on a singular 2k image

[spiral jay]

It’s off in blender and I did the reevaluate outside but it didn’t work

[spiral jay]

Poi

[night ember]

faces only have 1 side

[vapid oar]

Damn them uvs prolly phenomenal lmao

[night ember]

no they are complete ass

[vapid oar]

💀

[round comet]

If you scroll all the way to the bottom I think in the options there’s a culling setting thingie

Instead of it being back or front just set it to off

[night ember]

the actual model in scene looks fine so it doesnt matter

[round comet]

I don’t have my unity in front of me but its culling related

[spiral jay]

OMG

[night ember]

its my personal avatar that Id never sell the base of so it doesnt matter how shit the uv is

[spiral jay]

I love u marry me

[round comet]

Hope you found it

[spiral jay]

IT worked

[round comet]

Yippiee noice

Yeah that happens because of faces. It’s annoying

[vapid oar]

Thats good

Think i understand enough to go about the rigging for the rest of the model now

[night ember]

root bones are fantastic

like for ears just duplicate the head bone and name it Ears Root or something

that way its only 1 physbone component instead of 2

[vapid oar]

Oh alright, what about tail? The spine bone?

[vapid oar]

Damn

[night ember]

depends

some tails work better on hip others work better on spine

mine personally is on the spine

[vapid oar]

Thats where it kinda starts, so maybe hip would be best

My bones would probably be terrible for full body but hey ill figure that out when I make more stuff

Probably gotta be super precise lmao

[night ember]

the irl tailbone is in the body's hip

[vapid oar]

Yeah

I think ill try the hip for the tail first

[night ember]

my avatar is a honse so the tail ends up sticking up and out so the spine never actually reaches the pelvis

[vapid oar]

I see

Makes sense

[night ember]

mind you I actually did do an anatomically correct skeletal structure for my avatar for halloween

or well

as correct as I can get with cartoon logic

[vapid oar]

Yeah 💀

How was the rigging for that, not too bad?

Since theres no like bending

[night ember]

transfer weights my beloved

[vapid oar]

I havent even got to that stage yet

Lmao

[night ember]

the legs at least bend cause the middle bone has to bend since its a 3 jointed leg but the rigging is 2 joints

I am not buying final ik just to have 3 jointed legs

[vapid oar]

Final ik?

[night ember]

inverse kinematics unity script

vrchat supports it

[vapid oar]

Is that for digitigrade stuff

[night ember]

well ik in general

[vapid oar]

Oh

[night ember]

can be used for non plantigrade

but like

no

[vapid oar]

I feel you

The amount of addons i been buying is bad lmao

[night ember]

there is a stub but that wont let you just use final ik
it only lets you upload final ik related prefabs

[vapid oar]

Does the rotation matter for the ears if theyre in a different orientation than side to side, since i cant rotate the bones to kinda match

[night ember]

wdym you cant rotate

[vapid oar]

On the "z" axis it wont rotate, unless im stupid

[night ember]

just click the end dot and move it

[vapid oar]

I mean like, rotate, not move up and down

I think its okay though

[vapid slate]

If anyone is good at applying clothes to an avatar pls DM me!!! (Image is how it's supposed to look)
(Video is how it looks in play mode)

Just realized the audio picked up from game, ignore the language 😭

[vapid oar]

Gonna try this out for the bones, idk if its enough

[celest sapphire]

Hello's! I’m having a transparency issue with the Poiyomi-TransClipping shader thing.
I have a bodysuit with lace, it has 1 material. It worked perfectly before, but after I sculpted the bodysuit and changed the wp to get rid of clipping I found, a section of the bodysuit becomes invisible only when viewed through the lace now.

Culling is off, ZWrite is on. Nothing was changed in unity, just blender.

<---- Before | After ---->

[mint badger]

Trying to redo Avatar. Where is that dumb thing with all the default vrchat expressions? I just realized i don't have any.

[vague spade]

helppp! im very new and im so confused :((

[stable citrus]

check if Gesture Manager is up to date or remove it from your project

[vague spade]

im not sure what to do im ngl im new. id need like full like dummy mode help

[stable citrus]

In your VCC project, can you tell me if you have a Gesture Manager ?

[vague spade]

yes i do

[quick heath]

Does anyone make tutorials on how to make demon slayer OC Avis? I have all the softwares but I’m a beginner and don’t know how to use them, and personally YouTube sucks with tutorials

[thorn cape]

anyone know why my hair bones are missing in game, 2 days ago they were there and i didnt reupload

they are in unity, and they move in play mode, but in game they are missing

i reuploaded, still werent showing, changed a value and reuploaded and it fixed it

[spiral jay]

What gravity fall off? I’m making her ass phys ones anddddd

[oblique lintel]

hi um, this is my first time uploading a avi can anyone help me? im so lost

[tiny bronze]

how do i make other players avatars look really smooth because all i see is glitched avatar.

[ornate stump]

How is it glitched? Do you rather mean you're seeing pixelated avatar which is an avatar's imposter?

[gaunt knoll]

you turn them on

[night ember]

I want to remake the imposter effect on an avatar so if my avatar is shown or hidden it looks the same to confuse the shit out of people

[gaunt knoll]

THAT would be funny

dam

why doesnt this WORK

[night ember]

what doesnt work

[gaunt knoll]

HUH nothing im going crazy

you know you think we would also have face tracking in here like avatar-ft

[night ember]

we technically do with eye tracking

[queen hazel]

unity gives me this error New image url is empty, aborting and then says upload succeeded and the avatar just isnt uploaded

[junior void]

see if you can update your sdk

[queen hazel]

how would i update it

[junior void]

in the vcc, you can click "manage project"

[queen hazel]

whats the most updated version

[junior void]

3.10.1

[queen hazel]

alright ill try that

tried it and it didnt wor

k

[junior void]

same error, new error? can you show us a picture of your console and/or maybe the upload screen?

[queen hazel]

interesting i got the error but it actually got uploaded after updating the sdk

[junior void]

well, did you clear the console

maybe youre still seeing the old one

[queen hazel]

nah it was definitely a new one it was the same time stam

new time stamp*

i restarted unity to see if i get the error again

[mint badger]

halp. I don' know what I did but my shader/material dissapered adn I don't know how to get it back. its not in the componants list

[ornate stump]

Did you select the object that has skinned mesh renderer component?

[mint badger]

yeah in body.

[ornate stump]

Your Inspector panel is in Debug mode. Change back to Normal first.

[mint badger]

oh

oh cool

that was it god damnit. Its back and I can change it

thank you so mcuh I appretiate that

ok (I'm going to be asking a lot so sorry)

My blink is wierd. I noticed my only blinking shape is one or the other but unity only has the one slot

[junior void]

you can do blinking via playable layers too

[mint badger]

oh?

[junior void]

perhaps you have both?

[mint badger]

this avatar is old so I have no clue.

[junior void]

easy way to test is set blink to none and check if it still blinks

if it does its gotta be animated

[mint badger]

darn I think I have to animate it. I am slowly remmbering the last time I set it up

guh

[junior void]

you may not have to

[gaunt knoll]

You don't have a eyes closed or anything

[mint badger]

I pressed play and there was no blink

[junior void]

so then why not use the blinking blendshape section in the descriptor then

[mint badger]

uh

[gaunt knoll]

Yeah can you take a screenshot of all of the blendshapes

[junior void]

theoretically you should have one blink shape that blinks both eyes

[mint badger]

hm

[junior void]

if you dont have a shape that blinks both, you can either animate it instead or i can guide you how to do it in blender

there is an easy option to combine two shape keys (left and right) into a combined new one

[mint badger]

guh. this is why I want to C########N someone to make this for 2025... uh 2026.

is there

Im just worried about breaking it. its muh boy. been using that bad boy for 6 years now lmao.

[junior void]

up to you

all i can do is offer

or just animate it

[mint badger]

if its quick I guess. I think I have blender

yaah I do have blender

[junior void]

one question ahead of time

is your avatar unpacked in the scene?

meaning in unity

[mint badger]

yes

[junior void]

then you cannot update it

unpacking a prefab breaks the connection between the model in the scene and the one in assets so updating it is no longer an option

[mint badger]

ah. well shoot.

I mean I can start again I guess. I was mostly working textures so I hadent gotten far in unity

[junior void]

really up to you

[mint badger]

hm I think I animated it last time so I guess I can do that.

sorry.

[junior void]

your avi, your choice

[mint badger]

well thats the least of my problems honestly. Now I need to figure out why its complaining that my hip bone isnt the base armature

[junior void]

show us?

[gaunt knoll]

Im just shocked that it does have a blink but it has sniff

[junior void]

this can be fixed in the import settings of the model

[mint badger]

it was supposed to be a joke avatar that I ended up falling in love with.

[mint badger]

how so?

[junior void]

find the fbx (not prefab) in your assets/files inside the project

[mint badger]

k

[junior void]

click the fbx

see inspector window

there, go to "rig" tab

in that, hit "configure"

[mint badger]

ohhhhhhh

ok I rememmer this damn thig

okay I got it.

okay so what is the name of the thing with all the default vrchat menu stuff in it

[junior void]

the radial menu?

[mint badger]

yes. for some reason when I use gesture manager My avatar does do anthing when I trigger the gestures.

(I swear I used ot do this. I just forgot the name of everything lol)

[junior void]

maybe youre missing the animator layer for expressions?

[mint badger]

ah ok uh...

[junior void]

aha

[mint badger]

jesus this thing is a wreak

[gaunt knoll]

You can say that again

[mint badger]

ohhhhh. I think I remmber using combo gestures back in the day?

christ ther is so much garbage in this thing

its like a garbage dump in my unity folders

god only knows what half of this stuff is

[junior void]

sounds like you need to start fresh

[mint badger]

I mean yeah... I just dont remmber all the stuff for making fx, menus, animations, a nd all that crap. I'm afraid of losing stuff that WAS important.

I seem to have to relearn everything

[junior void]

also, todazs standard have changed

vrcfurz is a verz popular tool for non destructive merging of clothes and assets for instance

we used to take armatures apart by hand

[mint badger]

oh?

[junior void]

we dont do that aymore

[mint badger]

oh vrcfury! yes I just got to know that! its VERy nice. jesus I hated doing that

ok starting from just fbx and textures... and then... uh yeah

lol

[junior void]

perhaps see if the avi itself was updated

get a fresh unity project yk

[mint badger]

OH it has NOT. trust me. its old old. the author I am 9999% sure he uh... died

well at least I can fix the blinking in blender now?

lol

[junior void]

lol

[gaunt knoll]

I was looking at that it's a patron only avi from 2020

[mint badger]

I should prob do that.... if you ahve the time of course

[mint badger]

yarp

it was a meme of the orginal shiba

[junior void]

am eating rn

[mint badger]

ok no prob

[junior void]

update blender to 4.5 lts :P

[mint badger]

kk

[mint badger]

not 5.0?

[junior void]

you can but if they changed anything between 4.5 and 5, i wont know

[mint badger]

oh okay

[junior void]

i use 4.5 due to plugin versions

[mint badger]

alrighty I got it

damn I was on 3.2 I guess

[junior void]

see if u can get the fbx into blender yourself

[mint badger]

ye

[junior void]

im typing with one hand lol

[mint badger]

no problemo. I used to do SOME stuff. I'm just getting back into it

[gaunt knoll]

bro might have the last version of this

[mint badger]

I checked. at some point I lost a bunch of files. (I had to clone my ssd at one point)

[junior void]

alrighty where we at

[mint badger]

just set up basic wihtout unpacking

[junior void]

ok

lets check what is "armature 001"

its not good for anything to have more than one armature

[mint badger]

the collar.

it was always attached idk

[junior void]

thats absolute dogshit

[mint badger]

hm. wich is weird because I remmber they used to be not lol

[junior void]

we can fix that in blender as well

[mint badger]

I have a seprate collar asset

[junior void]

or that

[mint badger]

oh! but this one is part of it... I have no oidea why

[junior void]

best start with a clean and unproblematic base

[mint badger]

yeah

yarp

[junior void]

ok first thing that sticks out is it has end bones

end bones do absolutely jack shit and just worsen performance for no reason

[mint badger]

oh... I'm kinda starting to realize the old artist didnt completly know what he was doing

so how do I get rid of those

[junior void]

select the armature object and go into edit mode

see if the bones sticking out of hands, feet etc are actually called "end" or "end_end" etc

[mint badger]

seems like it

[junior void]

okay. if you want to be double sure, select the armature and go to pose mode

move one of the end bones and see if they dont move any mesh

if they dont, theyre useless

if they do, we leave them be

[mint badger]

nope

they do nothing

[junior void]

ok then edit mode on the armature, select bone, hit x

[mint badger]

just bones or dissolve?

[junior void]

bones

[mint badger]

hm how do I make him seethrough

[junior void]

so you can see the armature?

[mint badger]

yesh

[mint badger]

ah perfect

ok I think I got them all

[junior void]

alright let me grab a screenshot

set both blink l and r to 1

on the body mesh

then go here

then turn down the ones you turned to 1 back to 0 and scroll down in the shape key list

you now have a new shape key that combined both active ones. name it anything you want and youre done

[mint badger]

ok one question Im not sure why there are two blinks

[junior void]

vrc blink left

and vrc blink right

look at the mesh

look what the face does

you can make a fucked up blink if you want, turn right side up to .3 only and left to fully

that will be your blink shape later

make it a meme idk xD?

[mint badger]

weirdly enouhg both do the exact same thing

[junior void]

show me?

[junior void]

yea thats fine

[mint badger]

ok just checking

[junior void]

the reason for that is because you cannot use blink for BOTH blink in descriptor AND to animate in animator

[mint badger]

I wonder if he made the second pair to merge but never did

oh

[junior void]

so people make duplicates so you can do both

[mint badger]

ok

anyway one sec while I do that. (thank you so much.)

in edit right?

[junior void]

np im working on my own project on the side so take your time

iirc can be any

[mint badger]

k

omg they both blinked!

[junior void]

yep

youre done :)

[mint badger]

oh! hat about getting rid of the collar? should I do that still?

[junior void]

you can if you want

[mint badger]

do i just delete it in the menuwith its armature?

[junior void]

you can just delete the armature and mesh of it

unless you want to properly merge it

thats fiddely tho

[mint badger]

ok i got rid of it. I assume I hae to redo the texture later isince its gone and the texture file woont line up?

[junior void]

why would it not line up

we didnt change the mesh of the body whatsoever

[mint badger]

uh i assumed because it's not a part of it anymore

they used the same texxture file

[junior void]

deleting mesh just frees the space on the texture

but it doesnt move anything around

[mint badger]

oh ok

[junior void]

although you should look at materials

[mint badger]

ok

[junior void]

is collar here?

if it is, you can get rid of it since collar mesh is gone

[mint badger]

uh

[junior void]

still there

but no materials is... odd?!

[mint badger]

oh shit im blind

nope none.

[junior void]

how many mat slots do you see on the body in unity

[mint badger]

one I think?

[junior void]

ok. in blender, hit plus one the materials section

name it body or something

[mint badger]

like this

[junior void]

then take this corner here and drag it towards the middle

itll create a new window

so you have two windows

[junior void]

in the left widnow, go to uv editor

[vapid oar]

Trying to setup physbones for ears and for some reason I dont see my second bone (line) just the first one in the ears

[mint badger]

k

[junior void]

unity sees joints, not bones

set end position in transforms and it will pop up

[junior void]

aha, see, this is your uv

go into edit mode on the right window

[mint badger]

this is where the collar was

[junior void]

yes

[mint badger]

k

[junior void]

hit a so it selects your entire avatar

[mint badger]

I dont think there is a single mirrored tesxture on this damn thig lmao

[junior void]

then assign that to your material

oh god the topology

what the fuck

[mint badger]

i think if i remmber correctly he pulled it from a 3d scan of someone

[junior void]

this is the worst avatar ive seen in a while

[vapid oar]

Oh I see

[mint badger]

you see why I wanted somone to fix it. its a mess

[vapid oar]

So thats why when I changed the endpoint it did start following the second bone, got it

[mint badger]

im honestly surprised its medium

[junior void]

yea...

how is it medium

[mint badger]

42,000 triangles? i think

[vapid oar]

Forget retopology who needs that

Decimate ftw

[junior void]

turn on statistics in blender

[mint badger]

its funny you can see where he attached the head

[junior void]

now look at mine

how is yours so low but looks much denser

[mint badger]

damn thats nice

hands and feet are rocks

id

[junior void]

totally saving on the wrong end but ok

[mint badger]

I plan on getting someone to find a way to fix it and just gonna throw money at them

I just care about it to much. to many memories

[vapid oar]

Your better of getting the original sculpt

And having someone retopo that

If you have access to that

[verbal bone]

i have no ideea what to do after this to upload an avatar to vrchat lol

[mint badger]

its feet hadns and the uh... taint are all fucked up and blocky and want to fix them

[junior void]

well, for now this is ok

[mint badger]

alright

export as fbx i assume?

[ornate stump]

It seems like you had world sdk instead of avatar sdk.

[verbal bone]

ah..its 2 diff ones?

[junior void]

yep. make sure to untick "add leaf bones" under armature settings

[ornate stump]

Of course.

[junior void]

now you know where the end bones came from

also you do NOT want to save it in a separate location and you do NOT want to drag the fbx into unity. You can save it straight over the original from blender

[verbal bone]

ahh..and where do i get the avatar sdk from ?

[ornate stump]

How did you create project to begin with? When creating project, you must choose avatar project, not world.

[mint badger]

I wonder why it never puts the chest bone in the right spot. I had to do it again.

[junior void]

its unity being not smart

[mint badger]

ok lol

[balmy barn]

mine randomly does that , chest goes awol

[junior void]

it does the same thing for me

[vapid oar]

Should my physbones start moving when I move the model as soon as I add one? Think im doing something wrong

[mint badger]

k

oh wrong screen

[junior void]

it should move when you move the model in play mode, not when previewing it in the scene alone

[vapid oar]

Ohhhh shit, thatd make sense lmao

[verbal bone]

@ornate stumpthjese you mean ?

[ornate stump]

Of course.

[mint badger]

oh yeah... i fogot theres not enough lip movements. I ahve to find that damn old list.....

[vapid oar]

To get into play mode you hit the > arrow at the top, right

[mint badger]

yes

[junior void]

yes but you want an emulator in your scene such as gesture manager

[mint badger]

then click back to scene at the top left so you can see waht you are doing

[vapid oar]

I see id need that cause im unable to move the model in play mode

I assume?

[junior void]

that too

it will also allow you to grab physbones and test gestures

[mint badger]

question. why not just dragging fbx into unity?

[vapid oar]

Is the emulator something I have to download outside of unity?

[junior void]

because it will create a new avatar and not replace the one you have. even if it has the same name, unity will appent (1)

[mint badger]

oh

[junior void]

you should have it as package option in the vcc under "manage project"

[vapid oar]

Found it thank you, gonna test again

It worked thank you so much, surprised that isnt one of the things it forces you to download

[mint badger]

I cant seem to add my textures. the material is all greyed out

[junior void]

thats normal

materials "embedded" into fbx's cant be edited

go to your import settings again

the last tab is "materials"

you can extract materials from there or assing new default ones into the slots

[mint badger]

oh I see. making new materials or whatever

[vapid oar]

Whats the line under the characters feet behind it?

Anything important or no

[junior void]

this is the avatars origin

it should point forward

[vapid oar]

Oh sht, do I gotta spin the model in blender and re export

Or spin it in unity

Idk if that would break anything

[junior void]

im not sure anymore what determines which way the line points

it might have to do with armature but i dont remember tbh

is your model ok in play mode?

or does it spin by itself

[vapid oar]

Wdym spin by itself? When im in play mode I can move the model around normally I think

[junior void]

i meant if the knees turn backwards by themselves

[vapid oar]

Oh no, the model is standing forward I guess still

After I hit playmode

Everything is in the same spot still

[junior void]

hm im not sure then

[vapid oar]

Ill just have to test it in game

[mint badger]

muh boy is blinkin

[junior void]

:)

[mint badger]

thank you again btw. now I have to get uh... everything else. good lord I have to find all thsoe animations in that pile

[junior void]

i just reduced my model below 70k so i can have medium rank

[mint badger]

lmao

[junior void]

im very happy xD

[mint badger]

actually its saying good for me weirdly enough

oh the collar I forgot

[junior void]

yea

also add an animator

next to where avatar descriptor goes

[mint badger]

oh I think I found it

yeha

hmmmmmmmmmmm

I feel like this is wrong

ruh roh raggy

[verbal bone]

there no such thing as an "auto fix" or smth for these errors right? i just cant seem to publish, been following the yt tutorial but maybe the avatar is broken ?

[junior void]

youre missing either gogo loco or vrcfury

maybe you forgot to import that

[mint badger]

you dont have a controller too lol

[junior void]

controller should be empty

avatar should not be

[mint badger]

oh wait thats an object

uh wait, is that not where it gies??

[junior void]

the animator goes onto the root object

the very first topmost avi part

[verbal bone]

can it be both?

aalright lemme go find the vrfurry thing

[vapid oar]

Uploaded fine but the neck thing is in my entire face lmao

[mint badger]

I beleive there is a setting that makes it ignored by the veiwer

forgot where it is

[vapid oar]

I see, right now im just trying to position the viewing "ball" so that it actually is where it should be, for some reason its like my vision was way too far back

From where I actually put the ball i think

[mint badger]

yeah best to put it between your eyes

[vapid oar]

Wait maybe im wrong

Its not way too far forward now wtf

[vapid oar]

Thats what I tried first but didnt work idk why

Its like the view needs to be inside of the head for some reason

To get a better position

[mint badger]

oh I hink its because the camera is in the VERY center of the ball so you have to have it halfway out of your forhead if I remember corectly

[vapid oar]

Idk whats wrong with it but I got it close lmao

Its nearly in the middle of the head

[verbal bone]

it should not have this many erros right ? even after importing vrcfury?

[junior void]

yellow are not errors

[mint badger]

warnings

[junior void]

scroll up, show us the red ones

[verbal bone]

i guess i got missing scripts

[junior void]

yep

[verbal bone]

ugh

wait

lemme reload it

it ..fixed itself i guess

[mint badger]

lmao. love unity

[verbal bone]

lets see if it works in game though..

[vapid oar]

Is it normal for the ios to be greyed out when uploading, do I need it to use as a fallback for quest?

[balmy barn]

it is when you havnt installed ios build support

[vapid oar]

Oh alright, I think im doing it right so far since the avatar now shows this

[mint badger]

uh hmmm

[junior void]

show it^^

[junior void]

where is your avatar descriptor

it should also be right there

[mint badger]

oh I dont know

wait

are they supposed to be on the same layer?

uh oh

[junior void]

ye

[junior void]

not on body

on root

blue outline is correct

[mint badger]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

that s why it was being weird

vrchat control panel put it on the wrong one somehow

[vapid oar]

There we go this looks correct now

[mint badger]

pffftttt

all scrunched up

[junior void]

why did you do that with the collar

did you unpack again?

[mint badger]

waht? oh I moved the wrong thing because im stupid

[junior void]

how did you attach the collar

[mint badger]

no

[junior void]

let me show you a better way to do it ye?

[mint badger]

sure

[junior void]

create empty

name it "Assets"

drag the collar to "Assets" out of the armature of your base

[mint badger]

mhhmm

[junior void]

so its next to it