avatar-help

[sour sparrow]

why is he slightly in the ground

[echo spear]

So, I have a booth avi, I have a skin material I bought and would like to change the skin tone. I can’t seem to change it while not effecting the eyes, what can I do?

[primal wind]

The old texture likely had eye whites which have been removed on your new texture
White skin had white eyes built in but your new one has no white eyes built in

Does anybody know how I can turn a physbone off in an animation
I want to have a flat chest and a bigger chest, physbone off for the flat chest and physbone on for the bigger chest

It keeps doing this

[soft sun]

does anyone knows how to import roblox avatars into a vrchat avatar? because i really don't know how, this is my avatar and it's already rigged but then i don't know how to add it in vrchat, i would also like it to be on the easiest way possible to do this

[primal wind]

Same way you’d do for a vrchat avatar
Make sure it has the proper rig, file, export, and set it up as a normal vrchat avatar

[soft sun]

are you sure? it's only the model and a rig on it nothing else i dont know if it needs something more

[primal wind]

Model and rig is all you need as long as it’s the proper rig

[soft sun]

what about the very poor thing, does that matters or what, i dont really have experience making avatars on vrchat

[primal wind]

Very poor only refers to optimization
It doesn’t give you any actual issues, it’s just about performance
It just means it has a lot of materials or a lot of tri’s, having them won’t make it impossible to upload

[soft sun]

how do i make it like add more optimization to the avatar?

[primal wind]

There’s a few ways. Would you like to join a voice call or dm me for support?

Easiest way is using a decimation tool

[soft sun]

uhh

dm

[primal wind]

Yours is likely above 100,000 tri’s, as excellent/good optimization is under 75,000

[echo spear]

I know that- what do I do about it tho? 🥲

[pine valley]

look at the control panel to find out what's wrong

[primal wind]

Redraw the eye whites onto the texture you have

[sour sparrow]

how do i place a seperate mesh in the world?

[dark saddle]

Is it a bad idea to use this shader to make the eye lense transparent?

Because there is no transparent VRChat shade for mobile, and at the moment i dont really want to exactly just delete the eye lenses in blender

[sour sparrow]

nah thats what i personally did, its the only transparentcy you can do thats compatiable from quest from what i know

[mystic flare]

hello, here with a question. has anyone run into a situation where you would double click the camera icon to turn on but as soon as you turn off, there camera lens is still there?

Other people can still see it so it makes it hard to explain to folks in different instances that my camera is not on even though the lens is there

[crystal magnet]

Can someone tell me how to add an AssetPostProcessor?

[lilac musk]

From what I've learned, they aren't as impactful as straight up transparency, but they are still heavy. Additive is something I use for a reflection effect on glasses, but it's even less impactful then multiply. Just use them as sparingly as possible.

[lilac musk]

What are you trying to add?

[crystal magnet]

Well, i'm new at doing Vrchat avatars, all i know is when i try to upload the avatar this message pops up

[left gull]

click .FBX>go to rig> change from generic to humanoid> select model in hierarchy and add descriptor component onto Oldfredbear

alot of the buttons in the SDK panel get buggy and manually doing stuff works better

[crystal magnet]

where can i add the descriptor component?

[dark saddle]

To answer your question, click the avatar root, then add component, then type avatar descriptor

But it wont work anyways because your rig is messed up.

View unity logs for more details.

[left gull]

logs says something about their hip bone being missing/invalid

[dark saddle]

Either named incorrectly

or this model wasnt made properly.

Im assuming that the model wasn't made proper

That's something that needs fixed in blender if that is the case

[left gull]

a screenshot of the model's armature setup would deff help

to fix the rig part hit the configure button and either put your hip bone there or if you're missing a Hip bone fix your rig with proper setup+naming scheme ( there should be a few examples in #avatar-rigging ) then it should auto-fix itself

and to add the required component hit this button and search for avatar descriptor

[bold spindle]

trying to convert an mmd model to vr chat, cant seem to get it to work

[stark meadow]

did you apply the addon after you imported it?

the little check box

[bold spindle]

ye i did

in the newer version it says something about like "making the model single user"

[stark meadow]

and you dont see the menu on the right of the 3d view?

???

[bold spindle]

then i went to the older version the one in 2.93

but like

it doesnt want to import the model

nevermind for some reason now it did??

[stark meadow]

lmao thats blender

[bold spindle]

i spent hours trying and now it suddenly works what the fuck 😭

[stark meadow]

did u close it in that time?

[bold spindle]

i could've sworn i resterted it but maybe i was wrong

[stark meadow]

i do believe you have to restart after importing the addon

🫡 good luck on the avatar!!

[bold spindle]

thank you

i'll let you know if i need more help

[stark meadow]

i may not respond to pings here as i dont see them

but others here may be able to help ^^

[bold spindle]

das oki thank you tho

by the way

is this normal?

like, the model should have that covered

[stark meadow]

that just looks like backwards normals, if you go to edit mode on the mesh

[bold spindle]

i have no clue what that means but i'll try

[stark meadow]

click this and select them

hit space and type flip normals once you select them

[bold spindle]

😭

[stark meadow]

select the mesh before you go to edit mode

just right click on it in object mode

*left click

[bold spindle]

ok so i did that but it didnt seem to change much

[stark meadow]

oh thats just transparency from the outer layer

thats okay itll look normal in unity unless you are uploading to quest

[bold spindle]

oh ok

wtf i tried using the translate all thing and it says "you are banned from google translate??

another question where are the eyebones

so i found the eyebones

but for some reason my hierachy is all messed up

[cerulean sapphire]

My SDK is giving me this weird error.
When i provide my 2FA code, it thinks i've entered the wrong code, even if that same code is working on both the main website and the game.

[timber thistle]

does anyone know how to smooth these? ive tried almost every method and nothings worked

[frail badger]

why are the eyes clipping out when they arent in blender

they only clip out when im in play mode

[junior void]

perhaps an animated blendshape

[sick loom]

how to make it look smooth?

you want smooth shading?

[hollow hemlock]

Anyone know how to make the poiyomi not get influenced by world light this much ??

[balmy barn]

shade smooth (space for search)

[maiden yoke]

would anyone know how to get rid of thi purple highlight?

[balmy barn]

guessing outline

[maiden yoke]

when i un click z write it shows it

but idk how to like get rid of it

[balmy barn]

rarely use liltoon, some outline size somewhere

[maiden yoke]

somehow that helped

thanks ya

i jut changed the lil toon from outline

[crystal magnet]

Ok i'll see if that works

[crystal magnet]

i'll try this too

thank you

[sick star]

not sure if this question would make much sense in the first place but does anyone know how exactly vrchats height for avis works? my avatar when i calibrate is slightly too high (foot wise) and then i have to adjust my height to move it, then i wondered if shrinking the head bone would magically do something

[dusk atlas]

Does anyone know why my materials aren't changing in unity? Also my view set position isn't working AT ALL, I tried changing projects but nothing.

[fervent spear]

hi guys is this something to worry about when uploading for ios

[bold spindle]

does anyone know how to remove this box thing from the model?

[pine valley]

this shouldn't really matter since you aren't compiling anything

your avatar is an AssetBundle, which can contain anything but code

[pine valley]

what are you doing? why do you expect your materials to be changing?

are you renaming/modifying them in Blender?

[fervent spear]

oo ok thank you:)

[wanton cedar]

it might be emotecons

[bold spindle]

How do I get rid of those

[balmy barn]

shove it in blender , select / part / delete

[wanton cedar]

yup

[balmy barn]

might be some 'info or plaque thing

[wanton cedar]

weird that its on the face too

thats why i think it might be those emoji icon things

or its some fucked up blush

[bold spindle]

i have no idea why it looks like this

[wanton cedar]

yeah i was right

[balmy barn]

transparency stuff in the face , blender gotto set those up (doesnt really matter)

rest might be bones for the emotes so you can shove them around or blendshapes

[wanton cedar]

you can prob just click the box if its a separate mesh and either delete it or hide it

if its not then you need to go into edit mode and delete it from there

[bold spindle]

i dont understand much of this

[bold spindle]

this was originally a vrm model, and i tried turning it into a vrchat model but like when i make the material list it just, brings those up

like, the atlas thing

[wanton cedar]

lots of ways to select it but L might work to get just the emojis

you can also go over here and find the material, hit select, and then it will delete anything assigned to that material

[bold spindle]

i tried to like, find the material that creates the emoticon but like

there is none

which is the weird thing

[wanton cedar]

i wonder if its all on the same image

[junior void]

good lord

[wanton cedar]

oh my god...

[balmy barn]

alot of materials thats the same, cats can just merge those before doing the before atlas/baking , usually end up with 1 4k~ with alot of air, can just bake/scale stuff after ( ill take one badly atlas over 20 materials )

hair on vrms tend to use the same 2-3 material/textures many places

[bold spindle]

😭

i figured out what materials are tho

how do i like, delete them

[sullen mulch]

How do I go about making expressions sets? (Like toggleable sets of gestures in a menu but get activated by gestures)

[pine valley]

A normal gesture layer will have a bunch of states with transitions like this:

• GestureLeft = 5

You'll add an extra condition to every transition

• GestureLeft = 5
• GestureSet = 0

now you can add more states that use the same gesture parameter, but want a different gesture set value

[sullen mulch]

Ohh so, you can add more gestures to a gesture layer then but just make those ones have conditions to like.. equaling gestureset = 1 to use them 🤔 ?

[pine valley]

Yeah. A transition can only be followed if all of its conditions are met.

One important thing: if each state has a transition back to the "idle" state, you'll need to add another transition

So, for one state, you'll have:

• Idle -> Emote
  • GestureLeft = 5
  • GestureSet = 0
• Emote -> Idle
  • GestureLeft != 5
• Emote -> Idle
  • GestureSet != 0

if A and B, go to Emote

if not A, go to Idle

if not B, go to Idle

Multiple conditions on one transition are like saying "and"

Multiple transitions with one condition each are like saying "or"

[sullen mulch]

Ahh okay okay - i still get very wound up and confused when it comes to conditions this really helps!! thank youu so much!

[pine valley]

I wish you could explicitly add "and" and "or" groups

[bold spindle]

ok i think i took care of it

[pine valley]

also, you can right click on a transition in the list and copy it

then paste it into another transition

this is useful for keeping the same exit time, duration, etc. values

the only gotcha is that copying an Any State transition does not copy its "Can Transition To Self" setting

[bold spindle]

i need a bit of help

yippie

[mint badge]

anyone know how i can recreate the scale of to objects to eachother in blender?

[fresh rose]

so ive trippled checked the hierarchy and bones of the model but its still showing this (the bone rig is all green btw)

[timber wharf]

@fresh rose can you show full rig ie green man?

@mint badge the what

[mint badge]

so like

im trying to fix hair clipping through a hat

and i got told i cant export this from unity and just pull into blender

so i have to pull both assets new into blender and kinda recreate the scale

[fresh rose]

K 2 secs

[timber wharf]

@mint badge you dont export stuff from unity to blender, you just import fbx models from unity assets to blender, then export fbx on top with overwrite (make project backup to be sure). you as id guees would need to create a shapekey (blendshape in unity) to scale down hair

@fresh rose hierarchy as well?

[fresh rose]

Kk

[timber wharf]

at least for the bones concerned, ie all spines shoulders neck etc

[timber wharf]

ye, now you can see spine 4 is extra, shouldnt exist at all, need to merge bone and its weights to spine 3 (upper chest) or smth

[fresh rose]

Huh

So what do i need to move or delete

[timber wharf]

its blender time, some model sources like game rips etc just have too much bones for unity liking

[fresh rose]

Oh ffs 😭

[timber wharf]

enjoy your free raw content🤷‍♂️

[fresh rose]

So how exactly do i use blender to do this stuff?

[balmy barn]

that would be a really long text, cats is handy for merging bones and renaming , but the bip bop av's tend to be a mess of bones going all sort of directions

[fresh rose]

This is what im lookin at rn

[balmy barn]

merging bones catsway and the bones 'ish you should have

[fresh rose]

Hm

So

Gotta get rid of toes and that spine 4 piece

[fresh rose]

How do i get that menu up?

[timber wharf]

https://catsblenderplugin.xyz/

[dark coral]

Ehlo, I can't seem to upload an avatar. Here is the issue. It seems to be a server side issue and I can't figure out why. Is anyone aware of a solution ?

[mint badge]

whats the best sculpt tool to get this shorter cleanly

[grave jackal]

Does anyone have a lock where you cant use the avatar until you get the code from a person or a kaycard?

[mint badge]

vrcfury got smt for that

[dark coral]

VRCFury got code locks component

[grave jackal]

oh ok

do you need to put it for pc and quest to work for both or only pc?

[dark coral]

Both

[grave jackal]

kk thank you

[dark coral]

Ok so my problem is related to an empty response from the server :

(System.ValueTuple`2<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/EmptyResponse, System.Net.Http.HttpResponseMessage>)
VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<MakeRequestWithResponse>d__15`2<object, VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/EmptyResponse>

[grave jackal]

gonna come back to here because im not sure how to work out the avatar lock for vrcfury-

lol-

[fresh rose]

So i got this done

How do i merge dos shit

[dark coral]

Definitely a server problem, I can't upload anything at all

[grave jackal]

never mind figured it out i beleiev

believe

[dark coral]

Ok so for anyone struggling it's because of the VPN

[civic cliff]

does anybody know how to do this look but on Liltoon?

the eyebrows/lashes being partially visible through the hair i mean

if not idk what to call this look to do my own research

[umbral cargo]

You can play with the material maybe of the eyebrown and change the rendering queue to above the hair. So it render over it

It should work if the eye brown is only culling from one side and not both. If it cull from both side. It might render from behind your hair

[pine valley]

yeah -- if the hair renders transparently, it won't block other things from rendering behind it

and you can tell the eyebrow to always render after the hair

note that this would make your eyebrows appear on top of any transparent object

[umbral cargo]

Does it need to be transparent tho

[pine valley]

if the hair isn't transparent (as in, it has ZWrite On set), it'll block the eyebrows, even if they render later

[umbral cargo]

Ah alright

Eyes will need the same threatement maybe.

[pine valley]

in this case, there might not be any trickery going on

the hair might just be transparent

the eyes aren't completely showing through the hair; the hair is partially obscuring them

[umbral cargo]

I wonder how it is done in poiyomi right now in the exemple

[pine valley]

yeah, that'd be useful to see

[mint badge]

dude im so lost rn i cant find where the menu on the right is

[civic cliff]

i can link the video i got the screenshot from if yall need it

so ive set the render queue on the eyebrows higher but nothing has changed, i found a tutorial for how to do this on liltoon on youtube but they're really bad at explaining it ngl

the closest that ive gotten so far is that i accidentally set some extra stuff inside the head to render over the hair somehow

even though im using a completely seperate texture for the brows and lashes

im starting to think that part of my problem is that the video has the brows on a seperate mesh entirely but i just used a different material with a transparent background

i hate blender so im not gonna change the mesh

[umbral cargo]

Also why are you trying to go to liltoon? You might need to show us how the material look like for the hair and eyebrown too

[umbral cargo]

I think it is the inspector with a parameter menu selected

[civic cliff]

i just like how liltoon looks MUCH more than poiyomi and i dont want to turn this into a bigger project than it needs to be trying to make everything look how it does on liltoon in poiyomi

[umbral cargo]

You can make poiyomi look like liltoon. Thats what i do

[mint badge]

yea but it doesnt look at all for me like in the vid

[civic cliff]

i know i COULD, its just harder to redo all of this shit that i spent so long tweaking to be exactly how i want

[umbral cargo]

The one in the video is filled. Yours might be empty.

How yours look?

[civic cliff]

did you want to see the textures or the settings for the material tho

[umbral cargo]

Yeah yeah

[civic cliff]

both?

[umbral cargo]

Material

[mint badge]

i think i found the problem the names in the animation are diff for some reason so i gotta do it by hand

[civic cliff]

alright

one sec

[mint badge]

or not

its just doesnt work

idk why

it makes the sound now but the blade just isnt there

[umbral cargo]

Are you trying to do a toggles that enable an object?

[mint badge]

i mean theres already a premade menu in the file

for the prefab

[civic cliff]

the setting thats cut off at the top of the second screenshot is identical to the setting right below it just so you know

[mint badge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FfurIEX4cs this is the vid im trying to follow rn but it doesnt work

[umbral cargo]

Is that the original one that has the eyebrown rendering over the hair?

[civic cliff]

im not sure what you mean

[umbral cargo]

You are trying to turn poiyomi into liltoon. Did you use the original material or you used a different material ?

[civic cliff]

no it was always liltoon

[umbral cargo]

Ohh oky

You trying to go to poiyomi?

[civic cliff]

no

im trying to keep it liltoon

but do the eybrow thing

which i cant figure out

the original screenshot was a youtube video

it just inspired me to try a similar look

[umbral cargo]

Alright allright i get it now. I tought you had the poiyomi version and tried to switch to liltoon sorry i misunderstood

In your case i would just right click the hair in the hierarchy and click on the poiyomi sharer tab and translate liltoon to poiyomi then follow the tutorial

[still shuttle]

Added a prefab with an animation to an avatar I'm working on. It animates fine in play-mode but not at all in-game. The prefab has its own animator, so im not sure if that has something to do with it not working

[umbral cargo]

Can you send me the video

@civic cliff

[civic cliff]

alr hold on

https://youtu.be/sPKc1MHNqMg?si=U2KQYxMBtqbfpuW7

i really didnt want to switch to poiyomi because ive had several other avatars in the past that ive used several different shaders with and i didnt like how they'd never really look quite perfectly the same

i think id rather just forget about this idea than do all of that ngl

might prefer to just cut my losses

[umbral cargo]

I will try myself tonight with liltoon

[hollow pawn]

How do I get an extra bodypart to match the shader and color of my body exactly? It keeps looking too shiny or is just glowing

[umbral cargo]

Try lowering the smoothness maybe

[civic cliff]

you dont gotta do all that i honestly dont care enough to try this specific thing anymore, ill find other things to do to the avi

[umbral cargo]

It will take me 5 minute once at my pc

[hollow pawn]

Is there a way to test the lighting inside unity so I dont have to keep uploading it?

[umbral cargo]

https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495 hai's lightbox

[civic cliff]

i think its not working though because i dont have a seperate eyebrow mesh, and im absolutely not going to even think about touching blender again

[umbral cargo]

It should be a different material. Not mesh

[civic cliff]

thats what i did

and i know that

but im saying that along with that, every tutorial ive seen ALSO has a seperate mesh

so it makes me think thats the issue

if you can figure out how to do it on an avi that doesnt have a seperate mesh for it as well as the seperate texture then lmk but if not, id rather just not do it at all

[hollow pawn]

I ended up just copying the shading and light settings from the body to the part to a tee. Hopefully that fixes the problem

[still shuttle]

ignore the lag but why does it not animate properly?

[umbral cargo]

Space it out more

You made a 1 sec animation

Nvm i see the issue

Lmao

[still shuttle]

loll

[umbral cargo]

Your video was longer then i tought

[still shuttle]

yeah my pc just lagged while recording rip

[umbral cargo]

If i were you i would just redo the animation but explaining you that might take a while

[still shuttle]

How would I need to re-do the animation? Is there something I'm specifically doing wrong while animating?

[pine valley]

notice how all three euler angles are changing throughout the animation

[umbral cargo]

Yeah

I would just redo and make it spin 1 axe

[still shuttle]

yeah its odd cuz im not even animating those? I'm just simply rotating it but the anim goes crazy

[pine valley]

Depending on which axis you're rotating around, the other axes can change as well

[umbral cargo]

The animation act correctly when outside the avatar by itself?

[still shuttle]

im not sure what you mean.

[pine valley]

iirc unity performs rotations in ZXY order, which means that your X and Y angle affect the result of a Z axis rotation

same goes for your Y angle affecting the effect of an X rotation

Given that the green circle is going around the axis of rotation that you want, this shouldn't matter

I'd clear those keyframes, then right click on "Rotation" in the inspector and hit Add Key

do that at the 0:00 and 1:00 mark, then edit the Y angle of the second keyframe to be 360 degrees higher than the first keyframe

[still shuttle]

The asset im using came as a prefab, but I could not get the animaiton it came with to play with the prefab on my avatar. It comes with an animation the works, but the prefab uses its own animator and for some reason it refuses to play. So I attempted to add the asset on my avatar via blender to see if I could just re-animate it myself, but it refuses to cooperate

[pine valley]

ah, right, I'm forgetting that the Y rotation is in the parent's space, so it's spinning around like that

rotations can be annoying to think about :p

[still shuttle]

none of the axis seem to spin it the way I want it to spin

[pine valley]

If you got rid of the X axis rotation, it'd spin properly (but be pointing the wrong way)

I get the same issue as you if I try to record the start and end rotations

It's be easiest if this object had no rotation when at rest -- that is, it didn't need to be rotated 90 degrees around the X axis to be oriented correctly

[still shuttle]

yeah you're correct, but getting rid of the x acis causes it to be in the body

If I were to say give it a root bone thats straight up and down, would that possible make me able to animate it the way I want

[raw gust]

Yo, Im looking for the black dots as well as the cloth constraint menu when I click this button, anyone know why I dont see it?

[pine valley]

An extra bone that handles the 90 degree X rotation would fix this, yeah

[still shuttle]

it's trasnform is also zero'd out in blender so idk if that makes a difference

[still shuttle]

oooimma try that

[pine valley]

• Spine
  • KeyHolder <-- 90 degree X axis rotation
    • Key <-- neutral rotation

There must be a more sensible way to do this

but I do very little actual animation with the animator :p

[still shuttle]

oof adding a root bone didnt seem to help at all

[pine valley]

the root bone needs to be the one that's rotated

the key's bone should has zero rotation

[still shuttle]

so this rig set up is wrong?

cuz I did animate the root bone and its still wonky

[pine valley]

The root bone should be the one that's tilted by 90 degrees

The bone that the key is following must have no rotation whatsoever

[still shuttle]

so something like this? or am i misunderstanding?

[pine valley]

The key bone has a 90 degree rotation right now

[still shuttle]

I reset it so its just a default bone?

[pine valley]

in edit mode, rotate it 90 degrees back, so that it points in the same direction as its parent

[still shuttle]

im really bad at degrees lmao so im just guessing. like this?

[pine valley]

that is exactly the opposite :p

it should point in the same direction as its parent bone

that is pointing in the opposite direction

[still shuttle]

so like this?

[pine valley]

yep

Animations record the local rotation of the object. If you set it up so that the local rotation is zero (that is, the bone points exactly the same direction as its aprent), you can easily record an animation rotating it around any of the three axes

[still shuttle]

I must be doing something wrong cuz that did not seem to work

[pine valley]

the key should be rotated correctly when its local rotation is set to all zeroes in Unity

[still shuttle]

when it's all set to 0, its just straight up and down and points through the body

[pine valley]

also, make sure that the rest pose looks like this -- you should be in edit mode, not pose mode, when making these edits

[still shuttle]

yeah i was in edit mode

[pine valley]

and if you reset your pose in blender (pose mode, alt-r with the bones selected), does the key point the right way?

[still shuttle]

Yeah this is what it looks like in pose mode. I hit alt-r on my keyboard and nothing changed

I did have the bones selected

[pine valley]

are you animating the root bone or the key bone?

you want to animate the key bone

[still shuttle]

the root bone

[pine valley]

ah, that's it

[still shuttle]

I also tried the key bone

[pine valley]

the root bone's only job is to orient the key bone properly

make sure you also weighted the key to the key bone, not the root bone

[still shuttle]

yepperss

it is indeed weighted to the key bone

yeah its not workin lol

[pine valley]

(and that you reset the root bone's rotation in unity, since you might've left it changed)

[still shuttle]

the og animation the prefab comes with works fine but for some reasion, it doesnt play

[still shuttle]

if i set it to 0, it stays straight up and down inside the body

[pine valley]

it should not be zero!

the root bone should have a rotation

right click on the "Rotation" property and revert it

the key should now be oriented properly

and a simple Y rotation on the key bone should make it spin

[still shuttle]

ok yes that was my issue! I was definitley confused

it seems to animate fine now tysm

[pine valley]

nice

(and make sure to set the interpolation to linear so that it spins evenly)

otherwise it'll speed up and slow down

There's got to be a way to just record keyframes for a rotation like that

[still shuttle]

yess I do that with tail wags so ik how to do that :D

[pine valley]

a fun trick: you can use a parameter to control how quickly the animation plays

with that Multiplier property

[still shuttle]

I was gonna make it spin faster when you talk, could I do this by setting that multiplier param to "Voice" and up the speed to liek 2 or 3

or would that not work lol
I have an idea of how I would do it to get it to work but I just wanna know if that would be easier than what im thinkin of

[somber meadow]

you could use voice volume

as that's a float

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/#built-in-parameters

here's all the built-in game parameters you can mess with

[still shuttle]

yeah I've used the Voice param before, im just wondering if it would work if i set that param inside this little box here

[somber meadow]

yeah ofc

you're not driving it, just using it

[raw gust]

any1 know whats going on?

[pine valley]

yep, exactly

It might be a little jumpy

There are tricks for smoothing out a parameter over time that you could look into

[arctic ginkgo]

I've never had any issues like this, but I'm having trouble mirroring my weightpainting... What's strange is that the model is only the right side and has a mirror modifier, and then the armature modifier, has all necessary vertex groups, and the whole armature is symmetrical and has the correct suffixes (.R and .L). Still though, it seems some vertices on the mirrored side aren't weight painted at all...

the only thing I can think of is maybe the .L groups are not empty

I'll try fixing that and see if it fixes my issue

okay yeah looks like that fixed it 😅

[drowsy venture]

apologies for the necro, but did you ever find out if fallbacks sync parameters with the "true" avatar (presuming matching parameter names n whatnot?)

[heavy zephyr]

I think it's a safe assumption that they work like the quest versions do when attached to a PC version

Aka : It'll sync correctly IF you have the EXACT same parameter list on the initial avatar and the quest/fallback one.

[rose gull]

Anyone know of any good US army dress uniform avatars for quest

[drowsy venture]

this would make sense and what i'm hoping for, but there's a lotta weird lil edge cases in vrc avatars, so i wanted to check before trying to build avatar stuff around it

[night ember]

#1138520828556890214

[rose gull]

Not loading for me

Slow internet

[heavy zephyr]

You could do a simple test with a single toggle. Tho fallbacks are getting deprecated so idk how long they'll still be relevant.

[hollow pawn]

https://suliverlynx.gumroad.com/l/NovaBeastUnderpants?ref=jinxxy
Should this be able to fit on my avatar if it has blendshapes? I dont know how to do clothes so I hope its a drag and drop

[balmy barn]

id learn blender scultpting then anything fits

[hollow pawn]

Alot of effort for putting on underwear. -w-"

[grim hedge]

I… honestly forgot. I've not needed to looked at fallbacks since the Imposter system was introduced.

I think it does?

[silent vessel]

hey weird question, anyone else having issues uploading atm? i keep trying to log into the vcc sdk, but when i imput the code it says invalid despite being correct

[drowsy venture]

fallbacks are getting depricated? since when? i know they made the imposter system, but i heard nothing about depricating fallbacks

[arctic ginkgo]

a few months ago iirc. They've been trying to though since the introduction of impostors

you can't even select a fallback in-game anymore, you have to do it through vrcx

[drowsy venture]

damn, that's a shame. would've made this avatar work much better

[balmy barn]

webpage still have select as fallback

[drowsy venture]

but for how long...

i'd rather not build stuff based on a system that will be getting phased out. oh well

[heavy zephyr]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/impostors/p/dont-get-rid-of-fallback-avatars-in-favor-of-imposters

I still think it's a dumb decision, I don't see any reasons to fully replace fallbacks. Give the option of impostors for people that don't have a good one? Great! Forcing everyone to be a pixelated mess? Sounds dumb.

[pine valley]

all of my avatars turn into extremely weird soup as impostors

probably because my avatars are already weird soup

[plucky moth]

Can someone help me upload some avis

[hybrid basin]

Does anyone know what setting causes this white shine on Shinra's nose/cheeks? It's not the matcaps, rim lighting, backlights. I'm at a loss

[round comet]

Could be glitters

Looks like a glitter mask to me

Unless thats another thingy

And I’m looking at the wrong spot LMAO

[hybrid basin]

glitters were turned off before I edited them for the eye makeup, but the white has been there from the beginning. It's like a white shading/cast on the nose/cheek area

nvm, I figured it out it was literally the shading lmao

[mint badge]

i have a prefab a added to my avi but im the only one that can see it

there on the same platform and have my avi on

[gilded gorge]

I keep getting a mesh body error and idk how to fix it can someone help

[rapid moat]

this is pissing me off, I did everything the tutorial told me to do

still does this

[wanton cedar]

What's the closest way to make pistons work on vrc? I've got some on legs and arms. They're set up in blender a certain way to work, but idk how to get that effect in vrc. Best I could think about is twist bones or something similar

[young hawk]

hey, can anyone help me make a cloak toggle using mochi's shaders?

please, im genuinely getting frustrated because no one has even responded

ive asked in 7 different servers

[spare bay]

I'm trying to lower the amount of polygons on my avatar, I tried merging by distance and for some reason after exporting the model it... went up? from 79k polygons to 90k

[indigo compass]

Unless you know you need it, doing merge by distance is not going to help with optimization.

It will just screw things up.

The most basic optimization you can do in Blender is simply going into edit mode and pressing f3 and searching for decimate and changing those settings (can't do as a modifier since avatar has shapekeys)

[spare bay]

wdym by "can't do as a modifier"

[balmy barn]

blender 3.6++ 'cleanup' is decimation and keeps shapekeys , but edge loops is a thing you should try first

wont break your shapekeys

edge loopey , change everything to quads, select lines, dissolve

[indigo compass]

When you use a modifier on an avatar you can't apply it if the mesh has shapekeys, are addons that fix that, but easier to just use decimation in edit mode.

[indigo compass]

This is the good way to optimize though, it is quick and works well.

[indigo kernel]

So I am editing a avatar and I wanted to add a spawn effect but I can't find any videos on it does anyone know a video or anyone able to explain it

[tight quail]

how do you make it so that when your move your head side to side, your entire avatar doesnt move with it, and only your head?
not sure if this is possible with just a quest 1

[inland seal]

Gocoloco has this feature

You can just take it from there

Also who still uses Q1😭

[tight quail]

i have it on my avatar, is it something that needs enabling

[tight quail]

me :3

and a few people i know

[inland seal]

😔

Pico Neo 3 would be great

But ig

[inland seal]

Yes

It has an image

[tight quail]

i just use it linked and its fiiiine 😭

[inland seal]

Of a guy with completely orange body besides the head

[tight quail]

okay tyvm, ill look for it

[inland seal]

Bad resolution, slower performance

[tight quail]

hence the sob

[inland seal]

Overheating and loud

Also the lenses..

[somber meadow]

Quest 1 still has OLED

all you got goin for it

[tight quail]

i get ittttt lmao

trust me, im the one using it lol

[inland seal]

Almost every headset has oled 😭

[tight quail]

i see the opposite of this if thats what you mean?

[inland seal]

Idk what you're trying to Achieve..

[somber meadow]

Not really

Meta hasn't put out an OLED headset since the Quest 1

[inland seal]

I'm saying that maybe buy a better one for 200$?

[inland seal]

I'm not talking about just meta + I said "almost"

Meaning 80% of the headsets

[somber meadow]

if you're only thinking about the PCVR 2 or the Bigscreen

[inland seal]

It doesn't really matter since it's the same lenses and same display :/

No chance

[tight quail]

when i enable it, it seems to hold my shoulders still, but not my lower body, as i turn my head

[somber meadow]

Pico 4/4 Ultra, Quest 3/3S, Quest Pro, Index are all LCD

[low lion]

So i have the quest 3S and every time I go to sign into my personal vrchat it says I can't authenticate a real time server, my wifi is good, so it can't be that, I can sign i to the meta quest account perfectly fine but not my personal account

[somber meadow]

#1138891887374237706

[inland seal]

Then make your own one on Unity

[tight quail]

i mean fair point, but im not that good. itll do lol.
ty for the help

[inland seal]

Okie

[inland seal]

Apple Vision Pro, PlayStation VR, PlayStation VR2, Bigscreen Beyond, Pimax 5K XR, Pimax Crystal Super, Pimax Dream Air, FOVE, Immersed Visor, Rokid AR Glasses, XREAL One, INMO Air 3, Viture Pro XR, Meizu StarV View, Lenovo Legion Glasses

[inland seal]

That's correct

[inland seal]

Now fill all the needed data, check for errors and publish

[crystal magnet]

ok now most of the errors can auto fix

[inland seal]

K, smarty pants

[inland seal]

Good

[crystal magnet]

btw do i have to texture it?

[inland seal]

Yes?

[crystal magnet]

or it just appears like that

[inland seal]

The current avatar you see in your viewport is how it will look in game

[crystal magnet]

ok so here's the thing.

is this more like something about the model?

because i can't find where are the parts i wanna texture

i might try this again with a more updated model

ok this other model is more like it

damn

[hollow pawn]

Should dragging this onto my avatar work if the waist is similar to a novabeast's? it has blendshapes so Im hoping it does
https://suliverlynx.gumroad.com/l/NovaBeastUnderpants?ref=jinxxy

[limber hedge]

Most definitely should. If not you can always edit it in blender

[limber hedge]

Either your avatar is too big or it has a component that is not allowed. What is the error?

[crystal magnet]

how many alerts are the max to upload an avatar?

0?

[limber hedge]

what are the alerts?

Cause alerts aren't always errors

[limber hedge]

you haven't set up the rig correctly

[crystal magnet]

how do i "specify" his "feet"

and map his head, hands and feet bones

[limber hedge]

Click on the model in your project folder, head to rig, configure, and check that it has all the bones mapped correctly

[crystal magnet]

the performance errors aren't that important aren't they?

[limber hedge]

121 materials seems very excessive

and so does 96 meshes

but it shouldn't prevent you from uploading unless it exceeds 500mb uncompressed

on pc that is

[crystal magnet]

So,

i mapped the feet

but the model doesn't have any shoulders

[limber hedge]

see if it throws an error, im not sure if shoulders are required

[fresh rose]

How do i makw stuff like spotlights scale with my avi btw?

[crystal magnet]

s there a way to tp back to the main camera?

bc i got lost

[unreal juniper]

Do you mean the main view in Unity? "Scene" button up at the top of the view box thing

[crystal magnet]

i mean i can't find the scene i was doing

i don't know where it is

but the models are still somewhere

[unreal juniper]

Screenshot what you're seeing?

[unreal juniper]

I meant like, the whole window lol where's your hierarchy?

[crystal magnet]

is there a way for my camera to go back where the model and the main camera is?

[unreal juniper]

That's weird, your scene view looks like you're in Play mode (no gridlines showing) but it doesn't indicate so at the top. Click on the "Fredbear" root and make sure it's positioned at 0,0,0; you could be zoomed way out somewhere in space

[crystal magnet]

dude i idk what i pressed and i lost it in a sec

[limber hedge]

genuine question, is this avi even made for vrchat?

[crystal magnet]

the thing is i can't even see the arrows when i select the camera

to move it

So, i decided to add the same model again just to see where i am and, i am far i must say

i reached unity's farlands

[limber hedge]

change the positions to 0

idk how you managed to move it that far from the center

like move it so far that unit is complaining about floating point precision limits

[crystal magnet]

where?

the scene position or the camera's

[limber hedge]

Fredbear

these values

[crystal magnet]

i did now what?

[limber hedge]

double click fredbear in the hierarchy on the left side

should take you to him

[fresh rose]

..

[crystal magnet]

damn

it worked thx

[limber hedge]

yw

[limber hedge]

what do you mean by scale? As in when you scale up in game?

[fresh rose]

Or scale down yes

My avi starts at 10 metres so

(Its meant to)

[limber hedge]

Doesn't it automatically scale the light with it??

[fresh rose]

Nope

Apparently not

[crystal magnet]

going back to this

[fresh rose]

If i turn them on when i scale down i get flash banged

[crystal magnet]

it still shows this error

[fresh rose]

It means u still havw stuff to fix

Chech the errors in the SDK

[crystal magnet]

helping 2 guys at once might be hard lol

[fresh rose]

I can wait dw

[limber hedge]

Scale constraint maybe? It's weird that it doesn't automatically do that

[fresh rose]

Ill try yeah

[limber hedge]

Did you try to upload it again?

[crystal magnet]

yes

[limber hedge]

where did you even get this model?

It seems to be so unbelievably broken

[crystal magnet]

sketchfab and the other one from a drive file

the first one was from the drive

and this is the sketchfab one

[maiden yoke]

does anyone know how to make/get an invisible material

[limber hedge]

So it wasn't made for unity or vrchat it seems then. You're gonna have a hard time converting it unless you have 3d software and unity knowledge

[limber hedge]

pc or quest?

[maiden yoke]

pc

[limber hedge]

do you use poiyomi?

[maiden yoke]

i can yea

[crystal magnet]

i only have blender, unity and some gmod things like crowbar

[limber hedge]

do you want it completely invisible or just transparent?

blender is a 3d software

do you know how to use them?

[maiden yoke]

invisible

as if it just poofed basically

[limber hedge]

mkay, hold on lemme just check myself

[crystal magnet]

luckly the model comes with a blender scene

[maiden yoke]

har har ha har har har har har har

[limber hedge]

change opaque to cutout and turn alpha cutoff all the way up

[maiden yoke]

for poi right

[limber hedge]

That rig is messed up. It looks like all the bones are parented to the one between his feet instead of to the bone before it

[limber hedge]

ye

[crystal magnet]

ok so i'll try and fix the rig

but now i gotta go to sleep

wait but that bone does not appear here

[maiden yoke]

danke

[limber hedge]

that looks to be a correct rig yes

[crystal magnet]

looked pretty good when i saw it on Muscles & Settings

[limber hedge]

okay yeah then the rig should work. It just might be the insane amount of materials on the model that makes vrchat act up

[crystal magnet]

maybe because half of the model was under the grid

[limber hedge]

maybe

[crystal magnet]

i wonder why "spine" is considerated as other avatar

it only has 7 alerts

now

the bones are totally correct

can we do like a call in DM i'll show you my screen

[limber hedge]

im busy and cant call

[limber hedge]

check the spine and see if it has an avatar descriptor. Delete it

[crystal magnet]

it indeed had

[limber hedge]

check if you can upload now

[crystal magnet]

i could'nt

it may be because it doesn't have a shoulder or upper torso bone

or a chest bone

[limber hedge]

what does the alerts say?

I dont have an upper torso bone either, but I have a chest bone and shoulders

[limber hedge]

yeah you need shoulders and chest to upload

[crystal magnet]

do i choose another animation type?

[mystic flare]

alright, weird bit so tested it

No idea if intentional or not
If you go to camera mode -> Stream -> Sprout, while the camera is still on, double click it.

The camera should be off right? The lens is still there BUT if I disable sprout mode, and do the whole double click, It finally vanishes. Can someone test this out if they are in game?

[mystic flare]

thought I hit reply

lol

[limber hedge]

I suppose you could, but I don't think it'll be animated in game

[worldly prairie]

if you get a package from someone do you manually need to add gogo normally?

or does it normally come with it

[limber hedge]

tf did you do

[crystal magnet]

i undid that already

[limber hedge]

depends on the package. if it has a gogoloco prefab in it you only need to import gogoloco into your project

[crystal magnet]

i'm trying to add some bones to the model in blender

[worldly prairie]

is there a easy way to tell if it has the prefab

[limber hedge]

if it has something like this in the hierachy

[crystal magnet]

does the rig look good?

[worldly prairie]

kk I think I didn't add it in to the last one i uplaoded ill have to check it

[quasi folio]

I went to export an FBX into Blender, but for SOME reason whenever I import the new FBX, the hip bone is missing, which is absolutely fucking up the model itself because no hip bone is controlling the torso and legs, what the hell do I do 😭

[sharp lily]

im having a really complicatd issue and i have no idea what to do

[somber meadow]

Start off stating your issue for faster assistance

[muted arrow]

So im losing my mind here

ive got an avatar with 4 arms

top hand is the normal hand, bottom hand is the 2nd set

why is it that the fingers are completely bending the wrong way

ive tried messing with the bone rolls in all sorts of directions in blenders edit mode

btw using rotation constraints

[sharp lily]

i have an avatar model i added a blenshape to for a body slider and i managed to get it to wrok but i cant figure out how to correctly export the FBX since when i put it in unity the bounding and scale is all wrong and it ends up breaking stuff.

[somber meadow]

are you overwriting the existing FBX file?

[sharp lily]

i tried both methods but i havent gotten any further than exporting it to unity because no matter what i do the new one has the wrong scaling and bounding

i did manage to make a slider with the new blendshapes and have that work but i quickly realised everything else was broken

i will admit the one i edited in blender is a different version to the original technically? theres two versions of the blend file, one with a poyomi style outline and one without and i used the no outline option cuz it was easier to sculpt

[somber meadow]

are you exporting with the "FBX All" Apply Scalings in Blender?

[sharp lily]

yes

and i have tried a few settings combinations but the result is always the same and even then i have no idea how to replace the old FBX in the unity scene with the new one and not have it break everything

i have tried asking the model maker on twitter but they haven't replied

I do also want to add some constraints to the thing in unity but im far from that point atm.

[sharp lily]

would having "export fbx to unity" tools be messing with the official tools that do that?

i downloaded some but none of them worked either

oh i should probably mention its the looie model by candycreaturez that im trying to do this with

[civic cliff]

what shader setting allows for this sorta polka dot grid that this person has in their hair? i really like how it fades up the hair and it sorta moves based on how you look at it like a still image if that makes sense

[muted arrow]

solved by banging my head against a brick wall for 2 hours

real hands bone rotation effects fake hands rotation, while fake hands bone rotation is only determines the roll and not how they bend

[tribal oracle]

I have this issue where the fingers on my avatar bend too much in game, when they display something else completely in Unity. I do use index controllers, so I think that might be an issue.

[sharp lily]

so i just descovered pumkins avatar tools and its telling me that the armature scales for the model im trying to replace and the one im replacing it with do not match.

i also tried using it to copy the scale, constraints and everything else and it just turned it into a jumbled mess. what am i doing wrong?

[somber meadow]

what is the armature scale of the new avatar vs the original avatar

is the original avatar 100,100,100?

[sharp lily]

yes and the new one is 1

but i just changed it to be 100 and that still happened

[somber meadow]

then use the default blender FBX export options if the original is 100,100,100

but your original avatar isn't a model linked packed prefab so you'll need to use Pumkin's avatar tools to transfer things over

[sharp lily]

i have been

[somber meadow]

don't use "Unity export plugins" like you said earlier

as those will most likely force a 1,1,1 armature scale

[sharp lily]

yeah i havent

turns out the scale in the blender project is set to 1

[sharp lily]

i change the armature in blender to be 100,100,100. same thing happened

there werent any errors this time but it still came out a jumbled mess

[slow smelt]

This is to do with the muscle settings in your unity rig, you can switch it back to legacy handling somewhere in the circle menu ingame, but a lot of these broke with the steamvr2 input update since it switched to skeletal driving for the hands

[cerulean garnet]

Looks like its just neatly organized poiyomi glitter ngl

Atleast you can achieve the same look with a mask and glitter

[olive bramble]

Yeah so this happened randomly while im editing a avatar file and now when I try to make a new project with Av3 it comes up with this stuff. How do I fix this and what does it even mean...

[sharp lily]

i finally fixed it

[bleak echo]

anyone know why my texture is see through in blender

[junior void]

must be alpha

[inland seal]

Looks like Alpha set to 0.5

[sonic scaffold]

none of my authorization codes for the vrchat sdk are working, Ive looked trough the help stuff for vrchaat, made new prodjects, restarted my pc, restarted unity, pretty much everything nut i can get into my friend's accout just fine with the codes and it only fails if i move my mouse?

but if i log into a prodject with a different account then mine it works fine

[tardy locust]

Is there an optimal resolution for the avatar icon that plays nice with every UI it's squished into?

[inland seal]

1280x1280

or 720x720

I think vr should put it normally based on res.

[tardy locust]

Hm, I'll try that then

[inland seal]

Do you mean the Gestures icon or the display one?

[tardy locust]

The one that gets used for the avatar, your profile picture, etc

That the uploader says to use 1200x900 for

[inland seal]

ah that one

I thought about gestures

Just try to put your avatar in the middle of screen, I can't really guide with this one

[tardy locust]

That's why I was asking if anyone knew the optimal setup, I'm sure there's one if you're willing to fiddle with everything for an hour

[inland seal]

I tried to help :c

[balmy barn]

have a template i made , but vrchat is all over what you actually see depends where, webpage/clicking on someone/ingame/ect , theres also the pc/quest/ect icons covering things

theres also like 3 different sizes auto from that on every avatar somethingsomething

keep it in the teal color and it should be visible on everything

[pine valley]

that's handy!

it's a lot like "safe areas" for television broadcast

[graceful fox]

hello can someone help me with something, vrchat sdk is not showing in unity for me :(, does any1 know a solution for that?

[visual wigeon]

Anyone know how to fix this issue its keeping me from uploading

[pine valley]

it's not stopping you from uploading

something else is causing an error

[visual wigeon]

it is stopping from uploading

somethingthing with the arms or shoulders

[pine valley]

why do you think it's stopping you from uploading?

[night ember]

this is a warning not an error

its just telling you that you might have funky tracking in game

warnings dont prevent upload

[visual wigeon]

it wont let me type out the avis name or nothing it preventing from uploa

[pine valley]

if the control panel isn't letting you enter the avatar details, restart unity

[visual wigeon]

done that same thing

[night ember]

its definitely not the arm thing

[visual wigeon]

cant firgure it out i want to upload the avi

[night ember]

check the console

[pine valley]

screenshot the thing that's causing you a problem right now

[visual wigeon]

everytime i click on the error on the right side it opens up the two arms

[pine valley]

Yes, that's expected

Again, the arms have absolutely nothing to do with your problem

the "Prepare Your Content" section shouldn't be grayed out, even if there are upload-blocking errors..

I'd still check if there are any errors in the list that have an "Auto Fix" button on them

[visual wigeon]

theres no errors with auto fix

[pine valley]

I would try adding a new model to the scene, attaching an avatar descriptor to it, and seeing if you can select it in the control panel

and before that, try VRChat SDK > Reload SDK

(in the menubar up top)

[visual wigeon]

confused

[quasi folio]

🙏

[pine valley]

so you're using the FBX Exporter package to do this?

is there a reason you can't just import the original FBX file that's in your project?

i noticed that your object is named prefab-id-..., which is the name that VRChat gives to your avatar when building it

[balmy barn]

[balmy barn]

when in doubt restart unity , some scripts can fail the first time,

[pine valley]

they said they've tried restarting it already

i'm very surprised that this didn't fix it

[civic cliff]

idk, in game the dots are very square, im thinking it might be some sort of overlay type of thing but i dont know how to explain that so im tryna figure out what the word for it would be in order to do research on it

[pine valley]

The control panel can get jammed up when the SDK runs into a weird error

e.g. trying and failing to boot VRChat on my macbook

[balmy barn]

remove any controller if there is one in animator , newer sdk can do wierd thing if there is one

[cerulean garnet]

yeah there's a setting to have the glitter be randomized or have it be neatly organized

its slider iirc

@civic cliff forgot to ping you back

[hardy light]

Guys how do I use xbox controller in vr chat in vr mode( and yes I don't have a headset as I spent all the money in my pc so I use my phone and it works pretty well)

[civic cliff]

ahh, but what about the fact that theres still other glitter on the hair that isnt organized? do they just have seperaye layers of glitter do you think?

[cerulean garnet]

i can't tell if it moves or not from the picture, but it could be part of the texture, a decal, emission

might just be a generic texture full of stars and stuff, and its just panning

you could stack 2 materials, but thats a draw call for very little

[quasi folio]

I’m trying to port that asset to blender to make some changes, but as I said, the hip bone just up-and-disappears when I do

[civic cliff]

the other glitter did move when i took the pic, the part im confused about is how to make the grid stuff have the effect i was talking about when you move your head, the best thing i can compare it to is like the galaxy skin in fortnite, or the end portal in minecraft, how the image kinda always stays in the same spot in a way

[cerulean garnet]

set the UV to panosphere?

Like this @civic cliff

[civic cliff]

ohhh yes

thank you

[waxen smelt]

I changed the texture of the hair of my avatar and when I load the game it does not show on the avatar someone help me

[pine valley]

There may be an animation that swaps the material

See how it looks in Play Mode with the Gesture Manager package

[misty ridge]

is it possibel to maek liltoon outlines emissions?

[waxen smelt]

Still not working could you help me?

[pine valley]

so you've used the Gesture Manager package to test your avatar in play mode?

[waxen smelt]

Yes

[trim jacinth]

My avi for quest uploaded on unity but vrchat says it didnt pass security checks

[somber meadow]

Show the performance stats of the avatar in Unity

[pine valley]

There are a few niche things that can cause it to fail checks, despite uploading correctly.

I had an interesting case where I tried to animate VRCConstraintBase instead of a specific kind of constraint

[trim jacinth]

Currently not home

[trim jacinth]

This avi is from a well known creator so im hoping they fix it

[next yew]

some parts of my sleeve mesh is flipped while others aren't, is there a way to fix this without checking each individual one

[pine valley]

If the mesh is solid, you can run the Recalculate Outside operator in Blender

[next yew]

i will check if that works ty

[pine valley]

i should say "watertight" -- that's the common term

Also, in Blender, you can turn on an overlay to view face orientation

near the bottom of the Viewport Overlay menu

[next yew]

omg i wish i knew about that sooner ty

[pine valley]

if you do have to select individual faces, you can use ctrl+click to pick everything on the shortest path to another face

that's often handy for grabbing large chunks that don't go all the way around

[cosmic sigil]

Does anyone know how to fix this? I have no idea why it floats or why the arms fold in like that

[next yew]

rough guess but maybe you misplaced the descriptor?

[cosmic sigil]

I put it in the head where I was told its supposed to go

[next yew]

between the eyes right

[cosmic sigil]

yeah

[stuck oxide]

okay im on a new pc, i use blender 3.6 and i reinstalled it and unless i open in through the folder it pulls up this, and when i do use it through the folder the second i use cats or anything to merge stuff it just crashes, any way to fix this? anyone have a better download for 3.6?

also automatically opens this and if i close it then it closes blender

[pine valley]

this suggests that you're missing important system libraries

either that, or the blender install is mangled

[somber meadow]

did you move the blender.exe file out of the folder to put it on your desktop?

[pine valley]

that would confuse it greatly, indeed

[somber meadow]

you should use shortcuts instead for that

[stuck oxide]

i did today to try to just get it on desktop (im so smart ik) but its been doing this pop up since first installment

[pine valley]

good catch; i blanked on the 'through the folder' bit

the executable is expecting to have other files next to it

[stuck oxide]

should i just try to reinstall it?

[somber meadow]

you can simply move the blender.exe file back into the install folder

[stuck oxide]

i did

it didnt really fix anything

are any of these better then another?

im just gonna try to reinstall it

[somber meadow]

msix/msi are installers, the zip file is a portable version

[stuck oxide]

alright thank you

[somber meadow]

why do you need 3.6 specifically?

[stuck oxide]

all of my old projects and stuff are on 3.6, and its the version ive used since i started using blender so i just prefer it over the newer ones

yeah idk i think my cats is broken or smth cus anytime i do something with it even after reinstalling it just crashes my blender 🥀

[gusty meteor]

Hey 👋
Quick question about physbones :
My scene hierarchy is as so :
Parent
|-- Children
| |--Children2
|-- Children
| |--Children2

I want to put a physbone component to the Parent to save components but them to only affect the "Children2" objects instead of putting the exact same physbone component to the 2 "Children2" gameobjects.
How can I do that ?

[rigid hemlock]

Hello I'm trying to set up outfit toggles using parameter drivers, I copies my setup from another avi that works, but for some reason the values don't change when I press the button. I've included a bunch of screenshots to maybe give a clue as to why it's not working. Appreciate any help xx

[teal field]

im having a brain fart, how to i add this skirt to the avatar without getting rid of the original weights? like the flaps move and i dont want to mess the movement up

[gusty meteor]

It says in the animation "missing" something. You would have to edit the animation to select the right mesh to toggle

[rigid hemlock]

that's intentional it's an empty clip

[somber meadow]

open "Ignore Transforms" up the size to add slots, and add transforms you want the component to ignore

[gusty meteor]

Yes but if I ignore "Children", their childs will get ignored too

[somber meadow]

Is there any other parameter drivers in the animator that could conflict with eachother

[gusty meteor]

No here

[stuck oxide]

how do i fix this error when trying to add my plugins to my blenderive never had this happen before 😭

[rigid hemlock]

yes that's intentional

[somber meadow]

yeah people do that to absolutely make sure states immediately go through instead of waiting for an exit time

[rigid hemlock]

only the two in that layer, one per state

[gusty meteor]

Oh okay mb then, I just toggle meshes personally and it works fine

[rigid hemlock]

It's an outfit toggle, you use parameter drivers to change multiple values at once and toggle your toggles

[gusty meteor]

Yup that makes sense

[rigid hemlock]

I've been staring at it for hours and I can't see anything that's wrong with it

[somber meadow]

why not set the root transform to an object further down the children

[somber meadow]

how're you testing it

[gusty meteor]

Because then it would only affect one children
I want to put the physbone component on "Head" and it to only affect the 2 I've circled.
Android avatars can only have 8 physbone components so I need to use as less as possible

[small latch]

This error keeps happening, first it was a blueprint error but after I fixed that it just says this

[left stream]

is there anything else above that?

[small latch]

Turns out I was stupid and it was a simple script problem

[teal field]

can someone help please

[loud raptor]

how do I fix this? this has got to be the most annoying thing ever, clearing blueprint ID doesn't work, unpacking it & doing the prefab method doesn't work. Even the avi creator herself is unsure, it seems like a lot of ppl are having this issue with the blueprint recently which makes no sense

[pine valley]

the blueprint ID error is a red herring

the project contains a corrupted asset

the first error may have something interesting in its full text

click on it and look at the bottom half of the console

this appears to be part of some kind of anti-ripping system

[loud raptor]

I asked gonsodany for help but, he's also unsure even tho gonso is his own system😭 I'm thinking maybe something is wrong with it

but maybe not idk how to fix the issues

[balmy barn]

gonso

[somber meadow]

jesus

[loud raptor]

it's gonso, I already validated my Key & everything

[somber meadow]

I wouldn't buy from anyone who uses gonsolicenser on their products

[loud raptor]

the issues comes when I try uploading, it's always something wrong with the blueprint ID no matter how much i cleari t

[loud raptor]

honestly, I'm starting to see why

[pine valley]

i know nothing about the system, but given that it's hooking into the build pipeline, i'm guessing it's creating new and exciting kinds of errors

i have enough problems with the asset pipeline already 😉

[somber meadow]

It's an "Anti leaking" system that gives the people who actually purchase the avatar a worse experience and isn't even protected properly

[balmy barn]

more like gone sooo?

[somber meadow]

You don't get access to the FX animator, or meshes

[balmy barn]

hope thats a fixed crystal shader, the old was extremely bad for fps

[somber meadow]

all it does is run an unencryption on avatar build which can just be intercepted and outputted back out

so people who actually bypass the encryption get a better experience as they can actually use the FX layer and model files

[loud raptor]

so in otherwords, I'm basically cooked?

unless I bypass gonso

[somber meadow]

you're not able to unencrypt it in that state

[teal laurel]

thats one wild naming scheme 👀 https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/DPX9CnSckzd3Xw9/preview
-# ok? no embed? cool lol

[somber meadow]

if he's not able to help you, holy shit

[balmy barn]

https://booth.pm/ja/items/4413932 fix for that crystal shader, still pretty old

[loud raptor]

what do I even do in this situation😭

$40 for what smh

[somber meadow]

if you used a credit card, you can dispute the charge. that's downright horrendous to treat customers with 0 assistance from a system like this

[rigid hemlock]

Gesture Manager

[quasi folio]

I beg

[balmy barn]

modular avatar thing , make a bunch of wierd names like that , only tried it once then went back to blender instead

[teal laurel]

crazy

[balmy barn]

looks like my screenshot folder just smash keyboard , there it has a name

[loud raptor]

oof, ok I see

[teal laurel]

*when you create a new temp folder on your desktop and give it like a really long keyboard smash name and it suddenly says that the name is already taken* 👀

[pine valley]

ah, so it unpacks everything at build time

[somber meadow]

yes which is really dumb in the end

[pine valley]

which you can trivially...well, i won't go into details, but 😉

[somber meadow]

it's a matter of time where someone makes a easily available script to just dump the files

[gusty meteor]

Yeah it was automatic for the hairs idk why. Everything else is named correctly

[pine valley]

if the seller cannot make the DRM work correctly, then the product is defective

[somber meadow]

or just don't drm your vrchat kitbash avatars

[loud raptor]

literally

[pine valley]

can you show the rest of the text of the first error? it's cut off in this image

you can expand the entire console, then expand the bottom half

also, what SDK version are you using, exactly? that'll affect the meaning of the error

[gusty meteor]

Great my computer blue screened while building my avatar, now I can't open my project anymore.
Gotta love unity

[pine valley]

huh, that's a new one

back up your project first, then delete the Library folder and let Unity reimport all of your assets

(this process should be completely safe, but this is new territory for me, ha)

[gusty meteor]

Oh thanks it seemed to work

[pine valley]

A hard crash in the middle of a build is very likely to leave the Library in a bad state

the Library contains stuff like imported assets, compiled shader variants, the last scene you had open, etc.

I wipe the Library pretty much any time I run into an editor crash

especially if it was importing assets when it died

[gusty meteor]

Hm I see okay
Well it takes a little bit of time to rebuild the library but at least it's clean

[pine valley]

yep, it has to go through every single asset in your project and turn them into something it can work with

Unity does not directly use FBX, PNG, WAV, etc. files

it interprets them into internal asset types (like Mesh, Texture2D, and AudioClip)

[gusty meteor]

Hm okay, well thanks for the info, now I know what to do if something like this happens to me again

[pine valley]

you can also throw it out if you want to share a project with someone else

most of the disk space in a unity project is taken up by the Library, so it helps quite a bit

[gusty meteor]

Yeah that's what's I just thought aha

[pine valley]

i'm antsy after finding out about a catastrophic world SDK bug

it checks if you have no scene assets and copies a template into your Assets folder

however, after a full library rebuild, there are no imported scene assets yet

the files exist, but Unity hasn't interpreted them yet

so the SDK copies the template in, and if you were working in the template scene, that deletes your world

oops

[rare jay]

im not sure if this issue falls into this category but ive been having issues with creator companion with uploading to quest but if i uploaded through unity hub it will upload to quest no issues but recently unity hub and creator companion wont link files so now i can't upload to quest and i have the android sdk installed so im kind of stumped

[pine valley]

what does "link files" mean?

the exact way you launch unity doesn't matter; the creator companion isn't doing anything special

(i don't use the Creator Companion at all on my mac)

[rare jay]

so id restart my computor and what ever i made in creator companion would apear in my unity hub but as of recently it won't work

[pine valley]

i wonder if you've somehow got two installs of the same Unity version

[rare jay]

idk ive been trying to fix this problem for months

and like i stated unity hub allows me to upload to quest but creator companion won't allow me to

[pine valley]

how does the creator companion "not allow you to"?

neither the Hub nor the Creator Companion are the actual Unity editor

both are just starting the editor for you

[rare jay]

thats why im so confused

unity hub allows me to upload to quest but creator companion doesn't

[somber meadow]

yeah that sounds like 2 seperate Unity installs

in your Unity hub, do you have multiple items in the "Installs" tab

[somber meadow]

you don't need the bottom or the top installations

unless you're a game developer working with Unity 6

[rare jay]

Just 22f1

[somber meadow]

do the bottom and top installs give you an uninstall option

[rare jay]

Ya

[somber meadow]

I'd do that to make sure 2022.3.22 is the only thing that can open and just saving on disk space too

[rare jay]

Ok

[rigid hemlock]

So I'm gonna assume no one else sees anything wrong here either

and just delete it all and start over

[somber meadow]

from the screenshots, it looks fairly normal

are you okay with sharing just the animator file?

[rigid hemlock]

yeah i think so

[somber meadow]

don't need the animations or anything, just only the animator controller file

[rare jay]

Done

[somber meadow]

are some of the parameters changing? or nothing at all is happening

[rigid hemlock]

it doesn't look like anything is happening at all let me double check

[somber meadow]

and you have this in your FX layer of your descriptor

[rigid hemlock]

yupyup,

Okay in the animator during play mode it doesn't look like it's going through the transitions at all when i try to trigger it, it remains in the buffer state

i'm making sure i'm looking at the correct fx controller too (vrcfury is running)

[somber meadow]

yeah vrcfury does some fixes for the animator view whilst in play mode, was gonna ask if you have that

if it's not transitioning, then the transitions themselves are the issue

Parameters have to perfectly match in the animator and your vrcexpression assets

[rigid hemlock]

I feel like there should be a second transition listed here

from the buffer to the outfit

[somber meadow]

that only will show transitions going out of it

[rigid hemlock]

ah okay

[torpid flame]

I was wondering if anybody might have any insight or information on controller bindings

I recently set up a new computer and I had to redo my installations, etc., with OVR

I still have my binding saved, the one that I’ve been using forever now, but for some reason whenever I selected, it does not translate in game for example I can’t place space move myself anymore like grab and then pull

I’m not sure what settings are dominant is it steam VR settings that are dominant and what should be switched to what

If anybody does know it is appreciated

I have already went through all of the common troubleshooting steps

[somber meadow]

Is space drag for the left and right enabled in the "Motion" tab of OVRAS? Also use #1138891887374237706

[torpid flame]

It is on the OVR side

But I’m not sure what the steam VR settings should be, it should be default or should it be custom

Because regardless of what I have it set to the drag does not move

For example, if you try to edit the binding in the steam VR controllers setting the option to space drag isn’t even there

Those options only appear in OVR

[somber meadow]

did you click "Bindings" in OVRAS

it'll take you to the correct menu (it takes around 5 seconds to fully open)

[torpid flame]

When using the steam VR controller settings?

[somber meadow]

in the OVR Advanced Settings menu