avatar-help

[balmy barn]

rare i use it that one was a old test av

[limpid cargo]

gorgeous shader work here

[bleak ruin]

Is there a way to change the floor height without editing the fbx? I want to use shoes that are different heights (across different avi uploads, since it seems there isn't a way to change this outside of Unity/Blender) without them clipping into the floor. Currently I'm doing this by raising the hips bone in the model setup but doing it this way means I'd have to edit the FBX each time I want to make a change to an avi since they're all using the same fbx

[glass solar]

how do i get the particles to sync up with the animation?

the animtion is at 36 frames but I cant really calulate the time of that in total

[fathom bobcat]

I dont understand why this is happening

the texture map is clear

im poyomi base

[desert elk]

quest?

if it's pc setting it to transparent should work

quest you'll need to make some changes

[fathom bobcat]

it is pc, but idk what that means. Its my first avi

[balmy barn]

have to find the material for it and not use opaque on it , need something with transparency (pc just use a decal instead)

[desert elk]

yup

exactly this

[fathom bobcat]

It worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks so much for your heeeeeeeeeeelp!!!!

[feral steppe]

Is it possible to use VRCAnimatorPlayAudio with a float parameter? I want to see if I can use an audio on a rotation wheel.

[somber sequoia]

how you trigger the state that's on doesn't really matter, so yes of course.

[glass solar]

I wanna try to get it like this

and idk if the particle is looped or not and done with some animation thingy

[vagrant dock]

Should I sculpt or move around vertices

[feral steppe]

but I'm wanting to play an audio for each outfit it swaps to

[fathom bobcat]

can I get some more help, if thats not too annyoing qwq
Maybe some vc help where I can stream my struggle. Im trying to add a custom afk animation, but I just cant get it to work qwq

[somber sequoia]

Again, the type of the variable driving this is not really relevant

You'll probably need to not do this as a single animation that you index into though, instead triggering different animation states with a separate animation for each outfit, and an Animator Play Audio on each state.

But that's just a question of logic, and I don't know how you currently have it, so just guessing at where you might be stuck

[prisma thunder]

Sometimes when I combine meshes in blender, the bones don't work properly. How could I test that the armature functions properly before exporting?

[desert elk]

pose mode?

[prisma thunder]

Thats the one

Thx

[glass solar]

still could use help with this

[arctic ginkgo]

what is the issue?

[glass solar]

the particles dont really sync up with the animation after repeat, and the sound is hella delayed since it plays for a while before it repeats

[glass solar]

I want something like this

aka synced particles and animation n everything

[arctic ginkgo]

i don't hear any sound

how are you playing the sound and particles?

[glass solar]

oh yea forgot to mention my recording has no audio

the frames for the animation is 36 frames and the frames go by fast

while the audio is 2 seconds long

[mystic marten]

Could someone give me some easy tutorials to follow for unity? (how to add assets, add toggles, add dances, ect)

[arctic ginkgo]

fps is 60?

[glass solar]

how do i check fps anyway?

ive alwasy been wondering

[arctic ginkgo]

one of the menus in the animation window, i forget which, but if it's an animation made in unity it defaults to 60

it's one of those 3 dot menus iirc

top right maybe?

[glass solar]

oh yea its 60

[arctic ginkgo]

well i'd suggest lowering the length of your audio first

you can easily do a fade out to like 1 second in audacity

just to make the tail of the sound shorter

[glass solar]

also when I put 0.36 in duration for the bullet its much faster in repeating time

[arctic ginkgo]

then since the audio is played all the way through by the time you play the animation twice, you only need 2 audio sources to ensure it won't get cut off

[arctic ginkgo]

well this is why i asked, how are you triggering the audio and the particles?

[dry lintel]

hi there! new here ":D just wanting to ask... i'm really new to adding my own characters using unity and could use some help. i tried some tutorials and have bought a character that i can insert into unity successfully but i want to add my own assets to it but cannot find any good tutorials on how to add them / every asset is added differently (interactive ones, stationary props etc.) does anybody have a good tip :C

thank you !!!

[desert elk]

if the asset is bought from somewhere it probably had instructions

[dry lintel]

well they did, but they used VRCfury, which they didn't have a tutorial for, so i fall down into a rabbit hole of "i want to add a spray bottle -> i need a tutorial for VRCFury -> Person uses different tools from VRCfury that don't get explained" etc. . i tried following it but the folder is sorted completely differently then in the video so it makes it difficult to follow.

[dry lintel]

.

[desert elk]

i don't use vrcf so i can't help there

[dry lintel]

they did a non vrcfury one too, but the folder seems too confusing :C

[glass solar]

basically I have them all under one gameobject and have it turn on for the firing animtion, I tied to have the thing turned off at the end of the animation but it dosent really seem to be working in game

[prisma thunder]

Is there any way to toggle a specific material slot on a single mesh with multiple slots?

[grand yew]

so issue how fix if i have to use path rewrite rules how do i do that

[glass solar]

@arctic ginkgo so it turn out if I put a turn off a frame before the end it acutally fixes that

[main finch]

Anyone know how to fix this? i bought an avatar and i got one unitypackage which I imported

[civic bone]

question how do i make my avatar disappear and make it change completly to a different avitar so i can have 2 avis in 1 but as a toggle

[desert elk]

just make two avatars.

[cunning swan]

why do i keep getting security checks failed when i update my avatars

[desert elk]

you didn't import the face tracking packages

[desert elk]

most likely the file is too large

[civic bone]

i dont wanna make it for this one its from titanfall and i want it to be a toggle

[main finch]

How can i import them if i only got one unity package when bought?

this is all i have

[desert elk]

usually avatars list "needed things"

that you also needs to import

shader, GoGoLoco, etc

[cunning swan]

i didn’t get the failed to upload due to size limit

[desert elk]

things that you get separately

[main finch]

Thats pretty much what it says the rest is just what toggles it has

[left gull]

having 2 full avatars in one is generally very performance heavy and not recommended especially if you're wanting additional toggles ontop of the body swapping like weapons or outfits as every seperated mesh descreases performance ALOT

especially when the mesh isnt optimized

[civic bone]

is there a way to make the whole model swap and me to be able to control it with the same avatar tho cuz i wanna see if i can get it to work

[left gull]

check for a .TXT in the download section or with the files, thats listed as if there was support for VRCFT not the required packages along with the model (its bad practice to include the add-on files with a model since they get updated pretty often and the ones with the model wouldnt be up-to date )

[civic bone]

ive seen someone do it before but im trying to figure it out

[left gull]

what file type is CSC?

[desert elk]

it gets added sometimes

I don't actually know what it is

I saw it a couple of times in my projects too

[main finch]

Im a total noob when it comes to uploading ive not had one avatar where i didnt have any struggles .-.

When i click on the csc it wont open at all

[somber meadow]

The creator most likely provided links to the dependencies

[civic bone]

is there a way to make it were i can just have a model copy my avatar like mimic my movement?

[main finch]

I now got to open it in word and there is that

[somber meadow]

You don't need to open the csc file

you need to import jerry's facetracking template. The creator should've linked it on the page you got it from

[civic bone]

?

[somber meadow]

https://github.com/Adjerry91/VRCFaceTracking-Templates?tab=readme-ov-file#setup

[main finch]

I didnt see a link anywhere other then the assets they used

https://payhip.com/b/qOzit?ref=jinxxy&ref=jinxxy

[main finch]

So i download this and drag drop it there too? / put it before i open the project?

[somber meadow]

import the face tracking repo listed in there and add it to your project just like VRCFury

[civic bone]

?

[somber meadow]

step 2

[main finch]

Im just super lost

[left gull]

have 2 seperate meshes that share and are under the same armature one for the normal body and one for the other body though they cant be two very different sizes from each other they'd need to be the same height or it'll get wonky

[somber meadow]

Open https://adjerry91.github.io/VRCFaceTracking-Templates/, click add to VCC, add the repository, click "manage project" on your project in VCC, and add the face tracking template package

[civic bone]

do i need to set the avatar the same under animator

[main finch]

Thanks! I just found it. Im opening the project now again

[left gull]

kinda weird that purrina tells you to join their discord server for help rather then adding a .TXT or links to required files :P

only things they linked is vrcfury and loco which sucks for their customers

[main finch]

Best thing is that i joined the server and it says before asking how it works watch the video in this channel. The channel is blocked. And i cant give myself the role the avatar is

[desert elk]

that's insane

just give people instructions

[main finch]

Like its my 4th avatar now im uploading and tbh ppl on here must already be so sick of me. I feel like an idiot but its impossible to learn from most of the sellers :`(

[left gull]

i mean thats what this sections meant for but yeah sadly alot of western creators arent very great when it comes to making their stuff clear/easy

[desert elk]

yeah, I agree

[left gull]

one of the reasons i love VRCFury, before it was a thing so many models where ridden with issues left and right because creators couldnt be asked to make their models properly work

[main finch]

I really appriciate yalls help. Seems like its uploading now. If i wouldve asked earlier I wouldve got alot less of a headache lol

[civic bone]

do i need to merge the armature?

[desert elk]

meh I'm not a fan of vrcf tbh, but to each their own

you should only have one armature

[civic bone]

the thing is its a seperate avi so would i change the rig to match the default one

[left gull]

both would need to share the same armature so as long as you merging it means you dont just have 2 full armatures parented together and are fully merged into a single set then yes you'd need to "merge" both

[civic bone]

ok

and how would i do that easily

i have a MA Merge armature

[left gull]

MA wouldnt be how you'd want to do it in this case

this is something you should really do in blender to prevent breaking the model and to make it more optimized imo

[civic bone]

fun idk how to use blender that well XD

or at all

[left gull]

youtube will be your best friend in this case then

theres LOTS of blender tuts out there

[civic bone]

ok

[left gull]

yeah its not great that so many use it to make EVERYTHING on their models it breaks toggles and makes stuff messy really quick if they rely on it for everything but with stuff like small assets added onto an existing model its pretty nice imo or removing the excess blendshapes so many creators leave on their paid models

[desert elk]

yeah, I don't like it when people use it for every single thing

[wraith geyser]

hello, i've just uploaded an avi (i triied 2times) but in vrc the "uploaded category" went missing 😦 any ideas? por favor

i've never got this issue before (yes i restarted vrc multiple times)

[surreal salmon]

still cant fugure out how to make objects grabable

that center egg has its own armature but a phys bone doesnt seem to help in making it grababble

[wraith geyser]

cam grabbale object
this might help
https://camsaviis.gumroad.com/l/FreeGrabLmao

[surreal salmon]

i will try this immidiately

[wraith geyser]

i used this to grab weapons it works well, so i suppose it might work for you too

[surreal salmon]

thing is i intend in gaving just the big egg be grabable but if this does what it needs to i may make it work

[surreal salmon]

can other people grab with this or is it just the person with the avi?

[icy wyvern]

anyone have any tips for weightpainting? i swear ts is still clipping

[limpid cargo]

weightpaint while it’s in the problematic pose

ex. if you notice clipping while the legs are apart, edit the weights in the pose

iust not too much because you could throw it off balance with other poses

[surreal salmon]

savor the pain

[wraith geyser]

im not sure, but i think there is a setting in the contact receiver to choose who can interact, only you or everyone

[wheat owl]

Just an out of the blue question. is there an easier way to achieve a calico color scheme?

via blender*

[somber sequoia]

fun with noise generators, I'd bet

[fiery monolith]

has anybody figured out how to make it so when a sub emiter (or any particle) is emited, it plays a sound? Like when I through a grenade and the explosion particle emits it plays a seperate sound to the throw sound I used on the actual grenade particle

[somber sequoia]

you can't trigger sounds from particles on avatars, unfortunately

[barren wharf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1146941994963320886/1366592140003774594/20250429-0148-43.5712973.mp4?ex=6811819c&is=6810301c&hm=ef3353a187eaee5520f3f8fc652041058e6d17abddebddbc7115ea19e05c4b8f&

how do i make my sculpt look less shit

[left gull]

gotta be a bit more specific like what you sculpted and how you're currently sculpting it

[barren wharf]

how do i make the purse sculpt look better

ive been trying to sculpting it to conform to the hoodie

[left gull]

what tool have you been using to deform it?

[barren wharf]

elastic grab

[left gull]

you might just need to practice using it a bit more or manually moving the verts by hand in edit mode if its topology is too weird

[barren wharf]

ahhh ok

[craggy widget]

Hi- I'm not exactly sure what I'm doing wrong, I make the attempt to upload an avatar over one I've already uploaded, and when I got to check my content manager no avatars I've uploaded pop up. is there another way to get my blue print ID's or a way to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

you can grab it from the URL if you look at the avatar in the website

[craggy widget]

oh sorry- thank you <3

[mild solar]

i’ve tried doing custom sculpts on multiple heads that offer face tracking, before i sculpt i separate the eye, eyebrow and teeth/tongue meshes from the head and join them with ctrl J afterwards. but when i try to use facial tracking only face tracking works correctly in game, when i get eye tracking to work, theyare sunken or bulging out of the head. is there a step in blender i’m missing that’s causing it? am i not joining the meshes back correctly perhaps?

i’ve followed guides on youtube so i thought i was doing it right

[somber sequoia]

at a guess, eye bones aren't setup properly, but I'd have to see it

[hazy flax]

is there a way to see how the radial menu is without going in play mode with gesture manager?

[desert elk]

I don't think so

[frail stirrup]

does anyone know how to fix avatars failing to pass a security checks? ive tried everything i can think of and no luck, it's only an issue for when I try to make a quest version

[desert elk]

What are your stats? They could be too big

[frail stirrup]

this is for the android build

pc stats

pc model works perfect but quest hates me

[visual pivot]

Is there a way to get my avatar from VRChat because I lost my project files for it?

[somber sequoia]

nope

[desert elk]

hm, i don't see how that would be too much

[frail stirrup]

ikr? im at a complete loss

[arctic onyx]

Is there a way to make a toggle that doesn't show up locally and is server side only?

[somber meadow]

utilize the built in IsLocal parameter

[limpid cargo]

so honestly, it just looks like these items are glued onto her,
and they should be looser, and fall naturally.
i would recommend not trying to sculpt it to perfectly follow the body curve, just make it drape naturally as a normal clothes or bag would.

you can always look at references too

[barren wharf]

ok i fixed it up alot but now there's this giant triangle on the shoulder with the purse

[limpid cargo]

go into sculpt mode and grab that triangle with the Grab tool (not elastic grab) and pull it back in

unless you edited the weight painting, then it might be that…
did you edit the weight painting?

[barren wharf]

yes

[wild sphinx]

i have a question, i know there are worlds that can allow users to climb other players, is there a way to just build it into a avatar itself that people can climb you

[ornate stump]

It isn't for avatars.

[wild sphinx]

ah i was just checking if it was available for avatars, thank you 🙂

[fiery monolith]

i mean, yes technically. I would not do it though

[visual pivot]

I know a way to do it that isn't supported by VR chat. I just didn't want to do that because that's technically against the rules. I was hoping for a more official way to do it, but I'm just going to recreate the project, re-import, the assets and everything

[fiery monolith]

yeah that seems like a better way to do it. It will suck though reimporting everything

[sudden hornet]

so i have an avatar and it wont upload to android at all even the android versions, but itll upload to windows just fine. im so confused

[somber sequoia]

are there error messages?

[echo yoke]

hey guys do u know how can i add emotes to a generic avatar?i made the locomotion layer but when i try to add the emotes layer the locomotion stops working

[somber sequoia]

you probably want to use the Action layer

[echo yoke]

yea

[somber sequoia]

if they're full-body animations

[echo yoke]

yea thats it i used the action layer and edited the default emotes

but its not working idk

[somber sequoia]

what exactly is it doing?

[echo yoke]

hold up ima send a video

[echo yoke]

@somber sequoia

i have 2 models because i saw in a tutorial that i need 2 models for the emotes to work

[somber sequoia]

ok I have no idea what is going on there

[echo yoke]

damn ok ill try to figure out myself

thanks for the help anyways

[light charm]

you might want to enable "write defaults" on the action layer controller

[echo yoke]

ow ok

[final patio]

hey i just wanted to ask, ive tried a little to make my own avi from scratch, ive asked some friends and people i know for some advice if they know someone they'd recommend but sadly none

basically, does anyone here recommend someone for avi creation? as in blender modeling? i have some ideas and references and somewhat of an example of what i want, but without texture and horrible topography

ideally id get it retopologized, fixed, textured and weight painted, but honestly i just wanna find someone that has experience with blender that has a good vibe aswell

[light charm]

oh boi...
please do not engage with any dms from people who claim they will make avatars for you, as they are mostly scammers. i'd recommend joining the vrc traders server

[final patio]

yeah i kinda get that, dont really trust the self advertisers, im just hoping some actual people actually recommend some good peeps

[final patio]

but what server would you recommend?

[light charm]

vrc traders

[somber sequoia]

VRC Traders, link is in #1204490664637890580

[final patio]

oh alright, didnt expect that to be the actual name

thanks, ill check it out

[somber sequoia]

Seems like that's a very good thing right now 🙂

[somber sequoia]

ah yep, that was a scammer, as I suspected

[sly birch]

to the blender folks, how would I add a hat to my avatar and create a blendshape on my hair so that it doesn't stick through the hat without having to do it manually? is there any tools for that?

[limpid cargo]

• select your hair object
• go to shape keys (bottom right window, the icon looks like a triangle)
• add a new shape key (NOT Basis, that is what your hair default looks like, add another one and name it whatever you want)
• turn the value to 1.00
• start sculpting/editing and make sure it’s on that new shape key
• you can now change the value back to 0 and switch back to Basis

[sly birch]

yes, but since my hair has a lot of polys and a lot of individual hairstrands I'm looking for an easier option

[limpid cargo]

use the elastic grab tool and turn the radius up

then it will select more area

[sly birch]

The problem with that is that the areas outside the hat are affected too which leads it to look hella weird

[sly birch]

^^

[sullen nexus]

Hey, does anyone know of a good tutorials to make proximity based blend shape contacts? I want to add contacts to my avatar so the more you press on the receiver, the more the blend shape will activate?

[sly birch]

use a proximity contact and use that parameter as the motion time of the animation that controls the blendshape

[gilded raft]

i think hiding parts of the mesh would make them not affected by the sculpts etc. if i'm wrong about that, then i guess you could always split it into a separate mesh temporarily.

[sullen nexus]

well I have this set up but nothing seems to work with the contact sender sphere I made and used in play mode

[sly birch]

that does help, but it's still hell lmao

if only you could do something like scoop it over and it just deforms accordigly

[grave sparrow]

i think i made some problems with the avatar i was making.

[sly birch]

I would just create an animation like this (first image)
Then create a state using that animation, disabling loop time on the animation clip and use the parameter from the contact as motion time

[sly birch]

you're using standard shaders instead of using Mobile Standard Shaders

[somber sequoia]

You could also use the float to drive a blendtree, if you prefer.

oh I see, you are, yeah that should work

[sly birch]

this is gonna sound stupid but maybe try it ingame - it could just be the sdk doing funny things

[somber sequoia]

I use this and have tested it effectively in the editor

[olive halo]

so i've recently come across this issue with an avatar i tried to upload, basically i edited the fbx of the avatar in blender, reimported it and after uploading it to vrchat all the bones just crumble and the avatar looks like a contortionist, any help?

[somber sequoia]

did you unpack the avatar prefab in Unity?

[sly birch]

that sounds like you exported it with a different scale setting from blender than it originally was exported from, you can try re-exporting with a different one - that fixed it for me

[olive halo]

i in fact did not

[olive halo]

oh yeah, i was remaking the eyes and i did FBX All

[somber sequoia]

then yeah, likely scale settings

[olive halo]

was going along with a tutorial as im an amateur in blender 😅

[olive halo]

its not that the scale of the avatar itself is wrong, it really is just the avatar bones kind of being in one place, that being the ground

[somber sequoia]

well first try the scaling settings. If that doesn't work, what did you do? Did you drastically change the armature?

[olive halo]

ill try all of them for sure, and no, i only added the new eyes to the armature

those being 2 circle meshes

[somber sequoia]

ah that shouldn't do it

[olive halo]

ill try exporting it with all of the scale settings and see which works, if any

[sullen nexus]

so wait if I just use the on animation would that work?

[vernal cave]

Anyone know if that's better (on the vrc constrains) for twist bones to enable that solve in local space toggle?

[sly birch]

yes

[somber sequoia]

I think I use that on mine, can check..

[vernal cave]

would appreciate! updating a model that came out before vrc constrains

[somber sequoia]

Yep, looks like I do

[vernal cave]

awesome thanks

[somber sequoia]

(had to start up that Unity project)

[vernal cave]

appreciate it!

[sullen nexus]

Okay so I now got this Okay I managed to set it up like you said I think but still nothing

Also I'm a little dyslexic so sorry if I seem like a dummy with this heh

[sly birch]

is the parameter defined anywhere? (if that doesn't help I'm out of ideas)

[olive halo]

cheers @somber sequoia and @sly birch, worked like a charm 🙏

[somber sequoia]

oh good!

[sullen nexus]

What do you mean by defined?

[sly birch]

in your fx layer

(I don't remember if that was a requirement or not)

[somber sequoia]

if you want to use a variable in an animator, it must be defined in that animator

[sly birch]

you didn't need it in the param though, did you? I faintly remember reading something along the lines of that

[limpid cargo]

then… refine it and fix it?

sculpting isn’t usually a one-and-done thing, and i’m pretty sure there isn’t a tool that will just do it for you.
it’s not impossible, just refine it with a smaller radius afterwards

[somber sequoia]

"the param"?

[sullen nexus]

Ye, I got it in my parameters here

[somber sequoia]

Ah, avatar parameters list. So yeah, what that ^ says applies.

by "synced parameter" it means in that list and with the "synced" checkbox checked.

[sly birch]

it's just that sculpting this kind of thing is a bit annoying so I was wondering if there's a tool to make my life easier

[somber sequoia]

geometry nodes, perhaps

[limpid cargo]

im not sure what you want me to tell you. if you don’t like how long it takes, then use a less poly mesh.
its not impossible…

that’s how making avatars works, it takes time

but to answer your question, no,
there isn’t a plugin or something that will make hat blend shapes for you.
because that is generally a sculpting or edit mode job, which doesn’t work on every model

[modern loom]

does anyone know how to resolve these issues?

[somber sequoia]

you're missing some pre-requisite package, check the avatar creator's page to see what you're missing

(this is the "missing script" error)

[pulsar marsh]

Hi everyone, i downloaded a free avatar. Alot of them have like a white face compared to the body, Why is that?

[desert elk]

shading, style, or different anchor points (?)

[modern loom]

ill try that thank you

[pulsar marsh]

whats Anchor points?

[somber sequoia]

it's in the mesh Renderers, it says to use a specific object as the anchor point for the lighting

set all of them to the same thing (I use the chest bone) and the lighting will be more consistent

[pulsar marsh]

thats intersting thank you!

[somber sequoia]

this channel is decent for specific questions, feel free to ask

[desert elk]

you'll also get scammers in dms so beware

[lyric talon]

I don't know the first thing about this stuff I have the files

[charred belfry]

i'm completely new to uploading avatars. i bought one for the first time last night and was following a youtube tutorial to try to upload it but im having some trouble. i did download unity, vrchat creator companion, and my vrc account does qualify for custom avatars but i was having some trouble understanding the error codes and such as i've literally never done this before- if i could stream while someone tells me what to do or walks me through it that would be absolutely great

[somber sequoia]

perhaps what you need are tutorial videos?

[desert elk]

but you know there are problems, what are they?

[desert elk]

screenshot the top errors and send them here

[somber sequoia]

posting error messages in here often works. Remember to post the first 2-3, those are generally where the actual cause is.

[desert elk]

2-3 top ones

[somber sequoia]

@desert elk I guess we've been here a while, eh?

[desert elk]

xD i just hear it so often 😆

[somber sequoia]

yep

[charred belfry]

ah okay! you guys are so kind haha

[desert elk]

you'll get scammers

just ask here

[charred belfry]

im just getting in vrc and im not very tech savy when it comes to models and coding so this is an entirely new world for me

ahh okay

[somber sequoia]

so what?

[desert elk]

a lot of people do that

why can't you ask for help with it? xe

[night ember]

What does commissioning a model have to do with anything

[desert elk]

nothing 🤷

[somber sequoia]

so long as you didn't rip/steal it, we'll help

[desert elk]

you need unity to upload the avatar xd

[night ember]

Both blender and unity are free

[desert elk]

if you commissioned it

wouldn't that be against tos?

🤔

[somber sequoia]

Without Unity there's nothing you can do and thus nothing you need help from us for, so...

[desert elk]

DMs wouldn't solve it unfortunately

[night ember]

No but very much a you are likely to be banned situation

[balmy barn]

seems legit

[desert elk]

a friend's gonna help you, aren't they?

it's always a friend trust

[somber sequoia]

Unless you don't have a computer that can run Unity, you can just get it and upload yourself.

[desert elk]

it's not that hard

[night ember]

Did they just get erased from existence

[desert elk]

they always do

[somber sequoia]

yep, happens all the time.

[charred belfry]

i watched the messages poof in real time LOL

[desert elk]

xDd

that's insane

[charred belfry]

unity is launching rn so i can get the error codes for u

just to be clear (im very new) the circled one is the scene i want to open right ?

for the avatar

oh wait i found the right one

LOL

i want to delete this text asset right ?

[limpid cargo]

they use a separate texture for the head and body and don’t design the textures to blend together.
it can be hidden with some shading tweaks, or fixed by editing the face texture

[pulsar marsh]

ahhh okay thank you

[limpid cargo]

yea i dont think you need that.
you can keep it but its not needed

[desert elk]

yeah, it shouldn't make a difference

only the avatar should upload

[glacial elm]

i made a modification of a avatar removing unnecessary stuff like alt wings and alt tail and anatine and it now showing up in the animator i dropped the default base in unity for animation and controllers and such removing the stuff that screws with material swap and such and the stuff referring to the body swap options i kept all the bones where they where i was worried if i touch em they break everything cause of weight stuffs

So they are only a Honeybeefox in this from with a moded ears with 4 instead of 2 i am slowly working on getting my species a full custom modal both male and female

In the mean time this is the best i can doo

This is for a freind

[charred belfry]

oh wow theres a lot of error icons, i dont know which ones are relevant but yea idk what any of this means or what to do lawl

[desert elk]

where's the avatar from?

[charred belfry]

me or them ?

[glacial elm]

Foxmoth Jinxxy

and then i removed stuffs

Cause it too much memory to keep and i changed the hair

[somber sequoia]

"missing script" means you didn't install something the avatar requires. Check the creator's website or docs to see what they say, and install those things.

[desert elk]

exactly this

[charred belfry]

OHH it says i need vrcfury

[somber sequoia]

yep, install that, probably it'll fix those errors

[charred belfry]

thank you so much

[limpid cargo]

could you make this wall of text clearer to read please

[limpid cargo]

i would also recommend to start over (preferably on a new project or just take this as reference for the future),
install everything required first and THEN the avatar last, just to be 100% sure nothing breaks

[somber sequoia]

I haven't found that to be necessary

I'm sure it's possible though.

[limpid cargo]

i’m just saying for the future

if they do upload more avatars

but if things still break this time, then start over

[somber sequoia]

can't say I've ever started a project over in order to add Fury to it, I'm not sure where that concern comes from

[charred belfry]

mhm i just went ahead and deleted the project and am creating a new one. so its saying i needed vrcfury (just downloaded) if anyone knows what that is, does it automatically integrate itself when i open the new project through vrchat creator companion?

[limpid cargo]

no that’s not what i mean

[charred belfry]

or do i have to enable it somewhere

[limpid cargo]

it automatically installs everything once you import the package

[charred belfry]

ah okay. sorry iof these questions seem stupid im completely new and this is my first time, theres just so much i cant find youtube tuts for lol

[limpid cargo]

nooo you are okay 💗💗💗

[night ember]

Fury is a bunch of tools that are supposed to be "nondestructive" but in reality its not needed and does everything the lazier less optimized way

[limpid cargo]

if it wasn’t needed, then they probably wouldn’t have missing script errors

[charred belfry]

yea it was that and then a shader

[limpid cargo]

yeah definitely shaders

very important

[charred belfry]

do i have to import the shader into the assets box as well after importing the avatar file

[limpid cargo]

do everything before the avatar

[night ember]

Not needed as in you can literally do all that it does far better or simpler

[charred belfry]

ohhh okie

[limpid cargo]

oh yea obviously.
but i thought you mean in their case of the avatar

[night ember]

I will never understand why avatar base creators pump the base model full of fury components

[desert elk]

nah, just in general

because blender's too hard. that's what I usually hear when I ask them

[limpid cargo]

hahaha

i find the blender part the most fun ironically,
i hate unity

[night ember]

Howd they make the base then if blender too hard

[charred belfry]

in reference to this avatar specifically it is needed (or it says so in the desc of it)

[desert elk]

they get it places

kitbash

[charred belfry]

blender is so cancer to navigate i commend you

[night ember]

Im not talking about your avatar specifically

[desert elk]

yup, we're just saying in general we think it's not needed for us to use. Some avatars do need it

[charred belfry]

oh i see!

[desert elk]

because the original creators used it

[limpid cargo]

i find unity so complicated and many intricate things,
and if you mess up one everything breaks

[night ember]

Despite it being worse than doing it yourself

[desert elk]

to me unity is also harder

[charred belfry]

so i drop the shader (circled) in the assets tab, before adding the avatar file (one on top row) correct ?

[desert elk]

I cry so much trying to figure out new toggles xd

[desert elk]

yes

[charred belfry]

tyhank you, sorry i ask for lots of clarification im a bit slow HAHA

[limpid cargo]

i use vrcfury for stuff that i know i will probably break if i do it alone,
but everything that i CAN do in blender, i will rather than unity

[night ember]

What

[desert elk]

I think you misspelled something

[night ember]

How would you break stuff

[somber sequoia]

because laziness

[limpid cargo]

i also think i’m biased to blender because i started 3d modelling before doing unity

[night ember]

I started unity before blender
I can attest that just grow a pair and use blender

[somber sequoia]

the only thing I'm using Fury for is face tracking prefabs, because they're rather complex and I haven't been ambitious enough to try to integrate that yet.

[limpid cargo]

i use it for toggles and gogoloco when i was still using it on avatars

but that’s… it

[desert elk]

I was researching that recently and it did seem complex

Gogo loco is literally drag and drop 😭😭

how is that hard?

I will never understand

[limpid cargo]

it installs with vrcfury when you drag and drop it

[night ember]

Ive used go loco before fury existed

[limpid cargo]

i did too

[desert elk]

menus are the easiest part for me, I love doing them manually

making it all look pretty and stuff

[limpid cargo]

i do that with vrcfury

[night ember]

Im cripplingly lazy but yet I still open blender

[somber sequoia]

oh me too

[desert elk]

Tbh I started with only unity too because the only tutorials I saw were unity only

but I learned more stuff and use blender now cause it's better for some things

[limpid cargo]

i can’t follow the blender hate, i love the blender part sooo much

[night ember]

Menus are more complicated making them with fury rather than manually

[desert elk]

YES

[charred belfry]

okay my precious avatar is imported, time to attempt upload..

[limpid cargo]

maybe we’re talking about different kind of menus then

[desert elk]

I need to search a tutorial on how to add icons 😭 I added them but they got deleted on upload?

I will never know why

manual all the way

[limpid cargo]

never happened to me …

i think we are talking about different things than you guys, sorry

[desert elk]

I'm talking about the circle menus/submenus in game

[mental estuary]

It's more optimised than you doing things manually because it has a ton of optimisation tools. Idk where you're getting lazier and less optimised

[desert elk]

10+ meshes is optimized?

[limpid cargo]

yes… i’m talking about menu toggles

[mental estuary]

Yes, because when they're toggled off they're taken out of VRAM

[desert elk]

a separate mesh for a bow, a separate mesh for a sock... that's not needed

[limpid cargo]

yeah that is insane

[mental estuary]

UV discard is worse actual performance but better for VRChat performance rank

[desert elk]

I'm talking about people that don't even toggle things off

just leave them be but attach them with vrcf

[mental estuary]

If they don't need to toggle it off then no

[desert elk]

because they don't use blender

[unique cloud]

Heya, question time - delivered a custom avi to a client and walking him through the initial setup. we got vcc installed and the packages set, however after an hour of trying to load up the project, i told him to quit and restart. Now VCC ONLY opens unity hub rather than vcc, and we have no idea how to fix. If you know anything, please @ me so i get notified, thank you.

[limpid cargo]

i use a mix of blendshape toggles and mesh toggles

[mental estuary]

Attaching with Armature Link merges the armatures, which is what you're doing in Blender. Still optimised

[desert elk]

same

[charred belfry]

before i upload, are these little icons on the side normal?

[desert elk]

one mesh vs multiple meshes is the same thing? can you explain how? please

[charred belfry]

the error looking ones

[night ember]

Multiple meshes, multiple material slots sharing the same material, quadrupling the bkne count to add a singukar outfit, not quite optimized and done lazy

[somber sequoia]

those are missing scripts

[limpid cargo]

no 😭

[charred belfry]

[limpid cargo]

those are errors

[desert elk]

make sure they have the correct editor installed and that it's connected in VCC settings

[charred belfry]

i downloaded everything it asked me to, and i imported the shader

[desert elk]

that's exactly what I meant!

[mental estuary]

The only time when you get better performance with combining meshes is when they have the same material. Every other time having a mesh that can be toggled off (if you want to be able to toggle it) is better

[charred belfry]

am i meant to like open the shader in some way

[unique cloud]

he said he did, and installed it through vcc - problem is we cant get to vcc settings since vcc just launches hub, not itself

[desert elk]

no

[desert elk]

that's wierd

[mental estuary]

Merging 2 meshes with 2 different materials in Blender still results in 2 draw calls. It just lowers the mesh count in the VRChat performance rank. It doesn't actually improve performance

[unique cloud]

yeah, im cluseless too, never seen it happen

[desert elk]

so when you open VCC it just opens the hub?

[limpid cargo]

not related to what they are saying but on the topic:
i love optimising avatars, i actually find it really fun to aim for as high as i can optimise them 🧍🏻‍♀️💦

[desert elk]

*you = client

[desert elk]

ME TOO

[charred belfry]

hmm.. when i downloaded vrcfury i just opened the project on vrchat creator companion as normal

[desert elk]

did you add it to your project?

[charred belfry]

ope.

[unique cloud]

yeah client says it opens the hub, not vcc

[desert elk]

that's weird

[charred belfry]

i thought someone said it like adds itself automatically

[limpid cargo]

no no no after you IMPORT it

[charred belfry]

i made a new project after downloading it

[desert elk]

you need to press the plus button to add it

[limpid cargo]

i said after you import it

💦💦💦

[charred belfry]

DIES

let me.. make a new project.,. agaoin.m,.m,

idk how u guys hanbdle this stuff LOL

[desert elk]

you don't need to

you can just add it to the current one

[limpid cargo]

it’s like a game to me and saving people’s PC is my reward 😂

[charred belfry]

oh okay, but i do need to close unity right

[desert elk]

manage project > add vrcfury

[charred belfry]

and re-open after importing

[limpid cargo]

nope

just import it

[desert elk]

nope

[charred belfry]

omg

[limpid cargo]

and unity will do its thing

[charred belfry]

okok lets see

[desert elk]

just go to vcc and add vrcfury to your project

[mental estuary]

Don't focus Unity while it's adding the package. It will break

[charred belfry]

what do i click

[limpid cargo]

this is not true ^

[charred belfry]

to import vrcfury

[mental estuary]

Yes it is

[desert elk]

I get flashbacks to being a quest only user and I don't want people feeling the same way 😭

[limpid cargo]

i’m quest only, it is very limiting

[mental estuary]

I've had to reimport packages before when I focus Unity while they're importing

Better safe than sorry

[desert elk]

Never broke for me 🤷 I always look at it, it's fun

[desert elk]

the plus next to vrcfury

[limpid cargo]

click “not installed” on vrcfury, then install the latest one

[desert elk]

➕

[somber sequoia]

I've never seen this focusing issue either

[limpid cargo]

or that too

[charred belfry]

HA i see

so i added it and im still having the error message ont he side, i didnt re-open the project though

[limpid cargo]

try reopening then

[charred belfry]

mkmk

[desert elk]

mhm, maybe it's stuck

[mental estuary]

Also on the topic of bone count, armature link merges the bones of the meshes you're adding with the avatar's bones. It doesn't quadruple the bone count. It's better than doing it the way we all used to do which was parenting each bone. Merging armatures in Blender or armatures using Armature Link result in the same outcome 99% of the time. It's just non-destructive

And I've explained your multiple meshes/multiple material slots before. If all you're doing is merging the meshes in Blender you still end up with the same amount of draw calls. It's not any more performant. Except if you want to now toggle them off you're not removing the data from VRAM, just hiding them with blendshapes or UV discard, which is less performant

[somber sequoia]

Doesn't mean the package you just added is the source of these scripts though

[charred belfry]

do i save it or no?

[limpid cargo]

yesss

[charred belfry]

kk

[somber sequoia]

probably is...

[desert elk]

"we all used to do"? who's we?

[limpid cargo]

we? 😭

do u speak french? 😭

[desert elk]

I have never done that xd

[mental estuary]

Every tutorial that recommended parenting each bone

It's the royal we

[somber sequoia]

I never did either, it always seemed ridiculous. But I also know how to use Blender, so..

[desert elk]

I have only seen it once, thought it was annoying and searched for other alternatives - found unofficial cats

[mental estuary]

I am tired of people being misinformed about how VRCFury functions and just calling it lazy and unoptimised. A lot of work is put into it being as optimised as possible

[somber sequoia]

Fury lowers the bar for people to make good or bad avatars.

[limpid cargo]

cats is the best thing to grace a vrchat blender user

[charred belfry]

amen

okay attemtping to upload avatar to vrc now...

[somber sequoia]

I've literally never used that either 🙂

[charred belfry]

oh it deleted my msg, the errors are gone now :D

[limpid cargo]

is it working now?

okay good!!!💗

[desert elk]

so glad Rina took over unofficial tbh

[limpid cargo]

i said blender user 😭

[somber sequoia]

I use Blender!

[desert elk]

hah

it's okay

[limpid cargo]

cats is awesome though

[desert elk]

cats is just shortcuts that you can do with normal blender too

[charred belfry]

normal or..?

[desert elk]

they just put it in a nice menu on the side

[limpid cargo]

ignore those, those are the creator’s problem

[somber sequoia]

yeah I mostly wonder what things from cats people actually use once they know any blender at all.

[charred belfry]

oh okay phew

[limpid cargo]

oh yeah it’s definitely things you can do in normal blender,
i use cats for fixing mmd models

[charred belfry]

oh my god its working

[somber sequoia]

k, that's the one thing it seems good for, yep.

[limpid cargo]

wooo!!!

[charred belfry]

thank you guys so much if i could rate you somehow i would

[desert elk]

me and VRoids 🙋

[charred belfry]

saved me from the crashout ever

[limpid cargo]

HAHA thank you

[desert elk]

one button and half way there

[limpid cargo]

VRoid TOO!!!

[charred belfry]

vrchat drinks on me

[desert elk]

haha

[limpid cargo]

woooo!!!!

[charred belfry]

do you guys just watch this channel to help people ?

[limpid cargo]

yes lmao

[charred belfry]

how sweet haha

[desert elk]

nowadays I mostly fix VRoids and generate visemes

[limpid cargo]

i have no actual friends to talk or anything to do so i just stick around here

[desert elk]

yea, I hang here when I'm bored

[charred belfry]

ive tried vroid!! that one is fun and easy to understand

ive never uploaded the avatars to anywhere though

just play dressup essentially

[desert elk]

VRoids fun

I love dress ups and I love vroid

hah

[limpid cargo]

i love vroid because of its ease,
but converting everything to quest is so annoying even with how much i like blender work

[desert elk]

Ugh

don't remind me

[limpid cargo]

i ended up just switching back to normal bases

[desert elk]

I need to convert one soon and I think I'm gonna cry again xd

[somber sequoia]

I showed it to my niece, now she often emails me images of her latest character, it's really cute

[limpid cargo]

AWWWW

[desert elk]

aw

that's adorable

[somber sequoia]

well I guess did, now she draws them and sends me drawings instead

[desert elk]

i sometimes forget most people online are older than me, help

[desert elk]

that's so sweet tbh

[limpid cargo]

that’s so adorable!

[limpid cargo]

i also use it for merging armatures because when the blender update removed the M control i refuse to try anything else

[limpid cargo]

you must be pretty old to be surprised by that

[desert elk]

I'm not! this is I forget that not only young people go online

and when I hear stuff like niece/daughter my brain goes "What?"

I'm weird 🤷

[somber sequoia]

some of us are kinda old, yep 🙂

[limpid cargo]

oh wow…
i actually get more shocked when i hear people younger than me online
i think “how are you even making it here?”

[desert elk]

xDd

[limpid cargo]

because i didn’t have access to technology like this until i was about 15 or 16? so i get surprised

[desert elk]

wow I wish that was me

[hidden shore]

Hey, im having this issue that for some reason my project started having an issue with it where for some reason the itll just not show up names and ahve this whole issue with errors popping up.

I tried reimporting everything but it didnt do anything to fix it. any ideas?

[limpid cargo]

oh don’t get me wrong i was online before then,
but not chatting with people, just playing games

[desert elk]

yeah, I get what you mean

[main finch]

Is it hard to put assets like toggles / knifes / lollis whatever on your avatar and make it work with almost no Knowledge? Is there any tutorials yall could recommend🤗

[limpid cargo]

it is not hard at all!

[desert elk]

Not hard

[limpid cargo]

i recommend looking up “how to add props for vrchat” on youtube :)

[desert elk]

https://youtu.be/XqtSg6_W07Y?si=ao5P3u5tv9EZyNC-

the prop part here

easy to follow

[somber sequoia]

youtube search for "sippbox toggles"

[main finch]

Thanks i appriciate it!🥰

[desert elk]

best tutorials ffr

[limpid cargo]

OMG i was just thinking about that exact video 🤣💦

[somber sequoia]

a couple of creators have a LOT of good ones. PxINKY too

[limpid cargo]

i know it’s usually the first result when they search this, so i hoped they searched that

[desert elk]

great minds thing alike

[main finch]

Im pretty much a tooootal noob but my avatar is kinda boring and i wanna add some cool stuff to it and not pay millions of euros for anyone to do it for me😳

[limpid cargo]

no we understand!

[somber sequoia]

ooh I'd do it for just one million

[desert elk]

it's always best to learn things yourself imo

[desert elk]

haha

[main finch]

Yeah that too.

[somber sequoia]

"millions" is clearly too much

[limpid cargo]

yesss then everything can be exactly how you want it

[main finch]

Just needa save up abit then😭😭😭

[somber sequoia]

no worries, you let me know 🙂

[limpid cargo]

i just think i should announce to you guys that im about to make rice

that’s all

[desert elk]

I should eat smth actually

[limpid cargo]

i want to react with more emojis but discord crashes any time i use anything other than the emojis i already have loaded

[charred belfry]

is it normal for it to take so long v_v 40 mins so far

[desert elk]

it's gonna take some time if you have a ton of materials

[charred belfry]

i guess this is my sign to do my overdue work

rip

[limpid cargo]

yep, sorry

[charred belfry]

i get my tablet out to work and it finishes loading .

[limpid cargo]

😭

[unique cloud]

Bit of an update on my client's situation - we decided to just go via unity hub, but it says there's a restricted editor version. had him select the correct version in hub, but it's just crashing him out every time, even after a reinstall.
Question now: is it actually allowed for him to hand me his credentials so I can upload for him or is that a TOS violation? I want to make sure he gets his avatar, so I'm looking for a valid alternative solution

Which if there's a smarter option, let me know. I was thinking uploading myself and letting him clone it off me, but I don't know if that means the avatar will be locked cloneable on him or something.

[desert elk]

Answer: Not allowed.

The only way the avatar can be clone-able is if it's public - anyone can wear it

[unique cloud]

Damn, so the only way would be for him to upload it?

[desert elk]

yes

if VCC doesn't work, maybe consider Alcom

I think that was the name

[somber sequoia]

It is, and it works well. far less buggy too.

and cross-platform!

[unique cloud]

I'll have a look - seems his latest issue involved the unity editor erroring and damn near locking up his pc, hopefully we can get that sorted. Which is surprising, he's got a powerful rig iirc, but I'll try and get him to give me the error code next time too, for now hes had to get busy with irl. Thanks a lot for the help in this, too, I appreciate it ❤️

[limpid cargo]

unless YOU own the avatar, no

[unique cloud]

I mean I created it from scratch, but yeah looks like I cant just upload private, enable cloning and have him disable it once he cloned off me, so I'll try and help him get his unity running when I can

[somber sequoia]

yeah private means you the owner/uploader and nobody else.

[limpid cargo]

if it’s your avatar, then yeah that’s fine.
if it was someone else’s, no.

however, for him to be able to clone it from your account it would have to be public. if you make it public then private again, it would be unavailable to everyone, including him

[unique cloud]

Ah I see - well I want to avoid TOS breaches, so I'll try and exhaust all other options tbh, thanks for the insight

[somber sequoia]

account sharing is against the rules

[desert elk]

yeah

[limpid cargo]

is it?

[desert elk]

it's against the rules regardless

[limpid cargo]

i had no idea, people do uploads all the time so i thought it was fine

i will correct myself then

apologies

[desert elk]

yeah, they just don't care

[limpid cargo]

sorryyy i didn’t know

[night ember]

They usually dont but can and will ban every account that was shared if one of them gets banned

[desert elk]

yup

[limpid cargo]

damn i feel bad now

sorry guys

[somber sequoia]

don't - you didn't know. Now you do 🙂

[limpid cargo]

💦💦

[placid mica]

Does anybody have a good guide for adding human armature to a fbx in blender, specifically for VRChat? This is my first time EVER doing this, and I have no clue what I'm doing. Lol. Time to learn

[desert elk]

#avatar-rigging pinned posts have a lot of useful info

[placid mica]

Thanks!

[nova flicker]

Anyone have any tips or tricks when it comes to weightpainting the clothes on the crotch of an avatar? I always get bad clipping over there.

especially between the inner thighs or the private area.

[somber sequoia]

keep trying

that's a difficult area.

my usual suggestion is to not be afraid of moving the clothing mesh further from the body mesh.

[nova flicker]

😭

yeahh im trying to do that rn

but its a bit difficult because its boxers. if its too far awau from the mesh, yo ucan see the inside

😭

dont wanna accidentally flash peopel.

[somber sequoia]

yeah, can't have that happening

[minor mountain]

Anyone know a good Sung Jin-Woo avatar?

[desert elk]

#1138520828556890214 , not here

[minor mountain]

ok thx

[queen isle]

Any reason why this happens when I'm literally just clicking on a submenu in Unity for my model?

[limpid cargo]

it just does this, unity just has this loading bar when it’s doing code
they introduced this years ago
as long as nothing breaking happens when it’s done loading, you should be ok

[queen isle]

How long will this usually take? It's been 10 minutes now

[limpid cargo]

oh

uhhh that’s not good

it shouldn’t be taking THAT long

[queen isle]

Yeah.

Still stuck on the same progress

[limpid cargo]

okay yeah you should wait for an answer from someone

[night ember]

How shit is your pc?

[queen isle]

Not at all.

[night ember]

If you are maxing out your pc its gonna do that

[queen isle]

Maxing out? It says my memory is at 40% and CPU 11% if that is what you mean

Storage wise, I am also fine in that regard

The solution was to right click on the submenus and hit refresh. Unity is wonderful at times.

[main finch]

Anyone know how i can fix this?

[compact dust]

show errors

[main finch]

What I was trying to do : Add a knife to my avatar

Which worked at my friend avatar so idk what my unity is struggling with

[somber sequoia]

show the first 2-3 errors

[compact dust]

could be a conflict in some scripts, or you did it wrong, idk

[main finch]

I guess ima reload my avatar and try again

[main finch]

How exactly?

[somber sequoia]

the top 2-3 in your console. later ones are often side-effects of previous ones

[main finch]

the top 3 in my console were errors about clothes i already deleted

[somber sequoia]

okay well there's nothing to go on in what you pasted, unfortunately

[main finch]

So i guess the best way to go now is go back to just the avatar put the knife again without any clothes errors blah blah and try again. Yeah?

[desert elk]

clear console, try again, screenshot top errors

[main finch]

I threw out that clohting manager thing and now it seems to work / well it looks like its doing smth

well this is the next problem now lol

[somber sequoia]

wow you're only one over

usually when I'm over it's by like, 37

[main finch]

Is there a way to fix it like delete anything thats ehh not rly needed?

[somber sequoia]

just find some parameter you're okay with being local only and uncheck the "Synced" checkbox

[main finch]

Does it work if i delete one of my controls? It got boop. kiss and headpats. If i delete kiss does that work?

[somber sequoia]

what matters is a synced avatar parameter. If one of those "controls" uses such a thing, sure.

[main finch]

I sadly dont know how or where to find that

[somber sequoia]

it's listed in the avatar descriptor, under... uh, what's the actual name of this

Expressions

[main finch]

I found these in the parameter tab what the heck is that

theres like 10 of these

[unborn mirage]

Will physbone work if they are animated? For example if I pose a physbone will the bone still have physbone properties or will they just become stiff?

[somber sequoia]

yes, check "is animated" at the bottom of the physbone component

[somber sequoia]

you have some menus which use parameters not in the parameter list

[surreal salmon]

is it possible to use a panosphere texture on quest?

[timber wharf]

no

[short ferry]

so I have an avatar with a jaw bone, it's closed when in the scene but in game mode it's open. How do I fix that?

[somber sequoia]

unless you use that for speaking, simply remove it from the rigging setup

[timber wharf]

@short ferry pretty sure you set it same way as eyes ie you do need to set up both closed and screaming loud af positions

[prime hinge]

this isnt about creating an avatar but i need help with this, there are some avatars i want to use but the models arent visible nor do the toggles work kinda like how some avatars wont show cetrain effects if the particle limiter is enabled, any reason why this is happening and how i could fix it?

[somber sequoia]

that's unfortunately quite vague - can you show an example?

[prime hinge]

avatar completely invisible

nor do toggles function

[somber sequoia]

I kinda meant in Unity though, there's no information to be gained from these images.

[prime hinge]

i dont have the unity files because like i said this isnt my avatar nor is it about making one because the person who made this makes other amazing avatars that function as intended

[somber sequoia]

oh. probably nothing you can do about that then, and this channel is for avatar creation, not runtime game issues.

[prime hinge]

well it just says avatar help so it doesn't exactly imply that as its not very specific

[somber sequoia]

it does explain further in the topic

[prime hinge]

i guess i can ask somewhere else then

[surreal salmon]

freind me im issacflamingo

i know a place u can test avis like this

tho i dont think it can be fixed without having files

[quiet sinew]

anyone know how to fix this? Cause blender isn't opening :(

[prime hinge]

can you just send the link to the world? i dont friend people i dont really know

[surreal salmon]

sure one sec

[surreal salmon]

https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_a5e9ec13-36b1-4e63-ae0c-dab9023401f9

[prime hinge]

thx

[surreal salmon]

u can look at the avatars normals and wirephrame that way

[somber sequoia]

did you do what it says?

[quiet sinew]

i installed everything and its still not working

[somber sequoia]

Possibly your GPU just can't do it then

[quiet sinew]

well damn

[limpid cargo]

you need to ask the creator themself about this

[somber sequoia]

What is it?

[limpid cargo]

find if they have a discord or public social media (emphasis on public, pls don’t go messaging people’s personal accounts)

[quiet sinew]

Could i do anything else? or nah

[somber sequoia]

All I have seen is that one message, so I have no idea. I'm inclined to believe it though.

[quiet sinew]

ive tried to uninstall and reinstall blender but it still doesnt work

[somber sequoia]

I don't see why that would change anything.

[ember blade]

Does anyone have a better way to make a texture that looks like glossy metal?
(Avatar designed to be Quest friendly. I'm just considering alternatives before I follow through with texturing this whole thing manually)

[prime hinge]

they dont have any links from things i can check, their vrchat user is ~famos~

[limpid cargo]

i’m not sure how to help you , maybe ask around if someone can get in contact with them

[prime hinge]

pretty sure their in the discord but i cant search him up or find him in the member list because its seizing due to how many people are here combined with the scrolling

[timber wharf]

@ember blade uh, reflection looks comes on quest either from smoothness slider in standard lite just like normal pbr material, then it uses reflection probes of the world. or you can use lit matcap for consistent and more stylised look

[limpid cargo]

i understand that. maybe try to look by name, and hope their discord name is the same as their vrchat name

[timber wharf]

for standard lite alpha channel of the main texture allows to control level of metallic i believe so some parts retain more of og texture color and some 'reflect' whatever without tinting

[prime hinge]

it is

[ember blade]

I can't bring up the avatar that's my inspiration for this, but I know I want the consistent highlights + nadirs of those aluminum sculptures.
Unless you can direct me somewhere, I'll look more into this lit matcap thing.

[main finch]

Is there anything u can do against server crashers?

[latent zealot]

Shes stuck like this even when play mode is not on.. any advice?

[proper storm]

pumpkins avatar tools

[latent zealot]

?

[somber sequoia]

it's got a function that will reset your avatar to T-pose

[ember blade]

O shoot I think lit matcap is just what I need

Thanks internet

[proper storm]

reset pose feature yes

[timber wharf]

@ember blade well if all yoy want is a simple shape of polished stainless steel/chrome then all you need is smoothnes 1 on standard lite or a matcap

[latent zealot]

ty

[ember blade]

I'll look into matcaps, they seem promising.
I just also wanted the imperfections of the cut aluminums on edges and whatnot, so this is good news.

[limpid cargo]

names are sorted alphabetically, that may help

[prime hinge]

yeah ik which is what i tried on the member list but everything kept shaking and moving around

[limpid cargo]

yeah, there are a lot of people here

[dark jay]

All i did was paint 4 pixels black on my model texture why did it cause vrchat to upload it 8-10mb more

[limpid cargo]

you have too many things in your parameters

it needs to take up under 256 bits, so remove things in your parameters until you get there

[latent zealot]

217/256

unless what i want to use will go above that

[limpid cargo]

if it goes above it, you get the error

if you’re using something like vrcfury to add toggles or something else to your parameters, it may also go over too much and cause the error

[latent zealot]

I have to remove like 38 things..

[limpid cargo]

limits, they suck 🤷🏻‍♀️

[somber sequoia]

I'd prefer to have enough frame rate to see your avatar

[median oyster]

please help 😭

[somber sequoia]

install whatever requirements you didn't install.

you can check the creator's website or docs to see what you need

(the "missing script" error is the relevant one there)

[median oyster]

i was trying to follow her instructions but it wasnt super clear, ill check her website

[safe nimbus]

okay so I think I might have messed up my model and I just found out that something that I figured might be an issue is an issue I am going through and finxing the model as we speak but I was wondering if there was any quick fixes anyone knows of?

[lean edge]

Quick blender question for those who use blender 4.0 and above, back in blender version 2.9 weight paint mode had a keybind where if you held shift and right clicked where your mouse is, you could select a vertex group closest to your cursor, does version 4 have a keybind like that? cause i miss that QOL keybind

[somber sequoia]

I ctrl+shift click on bones

not sure I realized you could select based on proximity

[somber sequoia]

there's no quick fix, you'd need to go back into Blender and rework the model if you want to fix those

you really shouldn't have self-intersecting faces

[lean edge]

@somber sequoia grabbed a random mesh to demonstrate, this is what i meant

[somber sequoia]

there's a plugin for Blender I like, iirc called something like "3d print tools" - it's for 3d printing but it's really useful for finding intersecting faces

[somber sequoia]

by "sample" is that finding the weight at a specific point?

I guess I'm not sure what I'd use this for

[lean edge]

i usually used it when a mesh has a metric ton of vertex groups made it easier to find a specific group in the mess

[somber sequoia]

ah I'm not sure why I'd do that

I tend to think of weight painting as very driven by the bones, so I almost always select based on that

in mesh edit mode you can see what groups (and weights) a vertex belongs to though

[lean edge]

this is why, some of my projects have too many bones to count

[somber sequoia]

group them, hide groups you aren't working on

[safe nimbus]

ever seen something like this before? because this seems to be prominent through out the entire chest piece just got done with most of the sides but this is just ridiculous and I don't remember what I would have done to achieve this aside from subdividing the cube a bunch of times

[somber sequoia]

(sorry, bone "collection" is the right term)

[lean edge]

fair enough

[somber sequoia]

I'm not really sure what you are asking

it looks like mesh to me

[safe nimbus]

the mesh has 2 layers

[somber sequoia]

okay?

[safe nimbus]

right on top of eachother?

[somber sequoia]

I'm guessing that isn't what you intended?

[safe nimbus]

nope

[somber sequoia]

then delete one

[safe nimbus]

well that's the thing I am trying to

[somber sequoia]

okay, select faces, hit 'x'

[lean edge]

update to my problem, the keybind had changed to ctrl+shift+x

[somber sequoia]

aha!

I'm going to try it right now

huh that's interesting.

Still not sure what I'd use it for though, it's not really accurate enough, and I'd still click a bone. But I'm glad it still exists.

[brisk moon]

Help, how on earth do I fix this?

[ornate stump]

Assign menu file in avatar descriptor.

[brisk moon]

And how do I do that?

[ornate stump]

Do you know avatar descriptor at all?

[brisk moon]

Barely

[ornate stump]

Just take a look in avatar descriptor and find a slot for expression menu.

[brisk moon]

This mess

[ornate stump]

It is. If it's assigned, then you should take a look in the file and see what submenu is still missing.

[brisk moon]

There we go, fixed it

Thank you

[hazy flax]

what im supposed to do now?

it says something in that folder is corrupted

but this folder DON'T exist

[shut path]

hey so im having a problem with vrc fury where gestures are acting odd

when i use gestures for expressions, the animation plays

when i toggle an expression, its instant, no animation

how do i fix this?

[low sleet]

Is there any methods on changing a viewport with a toggle??

[somber sequoia]

as in your avatar's view point?

[low sleet]

Yup, say for example I want to go from the size of a regular human into a giant but be able to see from the giants eyes

[somber sequoia]

I think you could use a camera for that, but I've not tried.

you can't move the actual viewpoint

[low sleet]

Ill check the camera out

[junior void]

sounds like the hair might have its own animations via something like an installer tool like modular avatar or vrcfury

did the hair come with the avi?

or by itself

okay. to verify this, you could disable vrcfury on build just once to test this

i believe that would be in the top bar under tools - vrcf - disable on build or similar

i dont have unity open so it could be close but not exactly there

also if you have gesture manager, you can just hit the play button rather than needing to upload each time for every little change

then that indicates that you did something wrong in the animations you have set up

perhaps the avi came with some

youd have to have a look at the state machine while in play mode using gesture manager

the animations of the avatar in your animator

So the game object is disabled and you set the toggle to disable the game object

Might indicate that there is a toggle for it already

somewhere else

Does the button flip the state from false to true to begin with

i still have a feeling that your avi has some animator logic in the state machine that enables the buns

and since vrcfury adds animations to the bottom

the top ones override ones added to the bottom

hence why it wouldnt work

shoulda woulda coulda

no not on the hair

on the avi itself

in its animator, likely fx layer

start by looking for layers or animations that mention buns or hair

you could as a test empty the fx layer slot

then try play mode

if your issue is gone, its something in fx

[civic hazel]

I might be slow to this, but vrcfury has the possibility to set the default state on the property to OFF that you can add to the toggle

[limpid cargo]

how do you do that?

[steep sentinel]

G'day mates
Just out of curiosity, I've got a blender character. What programs do I need to make it into a VR character?

[ornate stump]

https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495

[steep sentinel]

thx

[still shuttle]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=How+to+group+bones+in+blender

[desert elk]

that's beautiful

[hexed sphinx]

I'm working on an avatar. For this I used an existing avatar base, edited it in blender, then added it back into unity. Unfortunately now my avatar is crumpling to the floor as soon as I start "enter play mode".
I don't know what's causing the issue, but I have some likely candidates for the source of the problem:
I removed bones from the armature, since they wouldn't be needed in my version (e.g. bones for long hair, hand-held accessories, skirt-part of the dress, etc.). This mismatch could be causing an issue maybe? How could I find out if that's the cause?
I set up the avatar by copy-pasting the unedited version of the avatar in unity, moving it to a new spot and placing the new armature & body mesh in there, making sure to copy over any components that were applied to armature or body to the new ones, before deleting the old ones. Maybe the avatar descriptor or some other script might however still be referring to the original mesh, which could cause these issues? How would I be able to find out if all things bound correctly? What settings in particular could be causing such a crumpling up if they were set incorrectly?
Maybe there's something else I hadn't considered that might be the issue?

I'd appreciate any hints and help!

[hexed sphinx]

I've checked the rig configuration, which seems fine.

Nevermind, I managed to spot the issue! The 'avatar' field in the animator was still bound to the previous unmodified avatar, whose armature didn't recide in the created copy, so the mesh had nothing to bind onto!
Yippie!

thanks @hexed sphinx lul

[rain wave]

anyone know how to fix this issie?

[somber sequoia]

move bones to bone collections, then you can hide them:
https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/animation/armatures/properties/bone_collections.html

(I literally googled for "blender bone collection" to find this link)

[limpid cargo]

i think i make blender more complicated for myself
i’ve never heard of that feature

thank you Kazin! 🙂💗

[broken bone]

Hello everyone. I know this question has been asked before many times, and I know I've seen a solution here, but try as I might, I can't find it, so here's the question:
What's the best way to go about attaching physbones at both ends? I know it's not possible without some trickery due to the nature of IK, but it's exactly that trickery I'm looking for. I seem to recall someone mentioning something about using an inside-out physbone collider at one end to hold one of the ends in place, but just messing around I couldn't get it to work, so I'm thinking I'm missing something. If anyone has any tips, better methods, or videos they can link me on the subject, I would greatly appreciate it!

[echo yoke]

hey guys do u know why my avatar enotes have some kind of cooldown?

[balmy barn]

avatar unpacked, fbx wont like being overwritten

[somber sequoia]

You'd have to look at the animator, see what the transition time and exit time are for those transitions to off

[drifting temple]

Does anyone have a fix for the problem where a springjoint is following your head side to side movement? I ahev a setup where the anchor object is tied to my fingers using a parent constraint

[rain wave]

I uploaded the avi perfectly fine on PC but when uploading for quest I keep getting these issues, could someone help me out maybe?

[heavy wraith]

you got Transistion exit time
Goto your FX Controller then click on the arrow that connects your states on the right panel set your Transition Time to 0 and exit time to be 0 and disable them

[heavy wraith]

just remove your AV 3.0 Manager
if you have no use of it.
Sometimes it like be iffy

[rain wave]

I did that & it worked, but something strange happened it says that the quest upload went through but when I checked the avi it still says "PC only"

thought it was a bug so I reloaded but nope still there as that

can't switch into it

[heavy wraith]

hmmm, just reupload once again

and relogin

[rain wave]

ok let me try

[rain wave]

same thing happened

[heavy wraith]

weird

for me, it's usually a login issue, you can try to swtich the platform back and forth

[rain wave]

okay let me see

[echo yoke]

did that

still the same

[heavy wraith]

F

idk what the issue then, that's what i usually do and it works for me

[lost umbra]

Hey question, is there a way to make an animated prop that keeps going until it hits a collider? I'm making a energy orb attack for both pc and quest, and thinking to use the toggle on the pc side to handle the ON and Off on the quest. I dont it before with other things. But wanted to make a projectile of sort.

[heavy wraith]

use particles for that.

[lost umbra]

yeah but then questies cant see, so that fails the assignment

[heavy wraith]

yes, they can see it

use the quest particle shader

[lost umbra]

those works? Last time I tried 2 years ago, it wouldn't let me upload.

[heavy wraith]

tbh, you don't really need any fancy shader just the basic particle shaders that comes with VRChat is more than good enough

[heavy wraith]

idk what world you are living in, i have been using them for past 4 years, and they always worked

might be something wrong with how you are setting up things

[lost umbra]

for the quest side, it's more so so they can see what's happening. PC gets the fancy effect,.

that was 2 years ago, I'm a lot more advanced now so guess I'll take a look into it.

[heavy wraith]

the only major difference is the post processing which is disabled for quest
otherwise, you can achieve the same effect on PC and Quest platform

No Post processing = no bloom or emission

they will just look flat.

also no light

[lost umbra]

Oh for pc, it will use a different asset. I'm gonna add global shader that moves with the ball. That's another thing to account for. It needs to follow the particle. I assume I can use sub emitter for those right?

[heavy wraith]

pretty much yeah
I believe

i am not the best when it comes to Particles, since, all i do is basic gun particles for few of avatar

nothing fancy shit

i have done an orb fireball with quest shaders though

worked like a charm ain't gonna lie

[lost umbra]

nice. The one I'm working on is shadow ball. The idea is, it charges up and fired from my mouth (im using a pokemon avatar) or hands (cause it's furry) and it will go straight at a slow ish speed. (Still fast) which has a secondary shader that follows it where anything near it would hit with a temporary distortion effect and the point of impact will be hit with a explosion on the outside with a temporarily blindness effect (to imitate knocking out)

I managed to use all of these shaders indivisually, but this will be my first time making a more complex system like this from scratch.

[heavy wraith]

on the quest you won't get any distortion effect since, no post processing and a lot of other things

[lost umbra]

Oh and my usual custom sound effect as I like making to of those.

[heavy wraith]

say bai bai to those

[lost umbra]

yeah for quest, if they can see the ball moving, and exploding, good enough.

it's for the pc user who get to see the cool stuff

[heavy wraith]

meh, i am a optimistion guy
my avi look the same on PC and Quest

why? cuz I like my FPS and no lag experience

[lost umbra]

any youtube tutorial on how to do this btw? Again, I havent really experimented with shaders all to much as I was busy working on quest comptaible avatar with ton of features. But all my friends finally moved to pc so I can let loose with my creation now.

[heavy wraith]

just make your own toggle without using VRC Fury much less chances of fuck ups

[lost umbra]

vrcfurry might be a little confusing at first but if you learn it, it's quite powerful. Also being able to make your own prehab is a plus.

[heavy wraith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UaOIAAcbPc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW8ZqD5Omog

try these two videos

[lost umbra]

thank you, will do. I just didn't want to use other people's premaid as it felt hard to control.

[heavy wraith]

the stupid thing is, people learn the Tools instead of the skills,
Learn the tool after you understand how things works and have bare minimum skills

[lost umbra]

oh yeah, no if you dont know how to do it without it, it will be harder with it. Learn both.

[civic hazel]

try to set it up the opposite way like this, so that the toggle turns it on, based on what you've said cause that means the default is off

but the best way to make toggles is without vrcfury if you need

[heavy wraith]

My current avatar, out of box it's 55MB upload for PC and no Quest side

my personal upload is only 9MB with just about all the clothing that i need + few extra toggles and props and custom upscaled skin textures

[heavy wraith]

the avatar was so unoptimised like Texture memory usage was 450MB
Now it's all the way down to 37MB

[civic hazel]

and the issue is that the buns shows up even when its not supposed to

[heavy wraith]

Try this video it will show you how things are working under the hood, or what VRCFury is actually doing.
It's a manual old school method of creating toggles,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqtSg6_W07Y

[civic hazel]

oh I know how to ^^

[heavy wraith]

then you should also knw what's happening, shouldn't be too hard to debug,

goto you gesture emulator then goto Debug mode,
it will show all the animation that are currently being played

[civic hazel]

im not the one with the issue :) just thinking of ideas

[eager acorn]

Face is using unity unlit and body has vrchat toon lit. Can anyone explain to me why it gets darkened?