avatar-help

[desert elk]

#1204490664637890580

when you buy an avatar you get the files to it and you need to get vrc creator companion and unity and upload it yourself

but remember that you need an official vrc account with a trust rank new user or higher to upload avatars

[languid parrot]

Why do my eyes look weird in unity?

[somber sequoia]

they do?

[desert elk]

looks the same to me

[timid shoal]

Yes I would like to buy one or even get a custom one done, my Vrchat rank is “Known” so I’m almost to Trusted…don’t know how long or what else I need to do to rank up. I believe I have an official account like I can login to vrchat from the website on my laptop yes?

[somber sequoia]

yes

[desert elk]

yes

[languid parrot]

look at the pupil. Its a solid color in blende, but its got a wired circle in unity.

[somber sequoia]

also which is which

[timid shoal]

OK, good to know I least have the account thing right

[languid parrot]

right is blender left is unity

[somber sequoia]

well, totally different shaders, and also different import settings for the textures. Probably can't really tell you much from here. Which shader is it?

[languid parrot]

poiyomi

[desert elk]

I don't take DMs

🐟

[karmic spindle]

what does it mean if my avatar is fully pink in unity?

idk if i did something wrong

[azure crown]

Alright so I'm gonna upgrade my stuff to latest verison but idk where to find the latest sdk to download?

[ornate stump]

You didn't import the shader your anatar needs.

[somber sequoia]

broken shader somehow - possibly missing main texture, possibly you didn't import the shader package, you'd have to look at the material in the inspector to confirm

[ornate stump]

You can manage sdk version via vcc.

[azure crown]

could you dm or send link to it? I been on the page and unable to find it or im just blind

[desert elk]

to vcc

?

https://vrchat.com/home/download

there

[azure crown]

im at the page but i don't see links or anything relating to sdk?

[desert elk]

in the app

[azure crown]

oh i was at the wrong page

thank you

Also it's 2022.3.22f1 right?

[desert elk]

unity, yes

[ornate stump]

How old is your project though if you had to ask that question?

[azure crown]

I been using 2019 for longest time

[desert elk]

damn

[azure crown]

Could never get used to new ui or anything so I just decied to screw it and try again

[ornate stump]

VCC is an app akin to unity hub, with built-in package manager.

2019 and 2022 for most parts are the same. Except for that scene toolbar.

[azure crown]

Asking me if I should enter safe mode and I'm 50/50 on ignoring or entering

[ornate stump]

You could ignore. You would have to check for broken packages either way.

[karmic spindle]

which shader packs are there i added poiyomi to it but it did nothign

nothing

[somber sequoia]

you need to add the one that the avatar uses

[karmic spindle]

theres no listing for the shaders that it uses

[ornate stump]

Then it's hard to guess.

[desert elk]

try liltoon

[ornate stump]

Can you send the page where you download avatar from just to confirm?

[desert elk]

another popular shader

also yeah, send a link

[karmic spindle]

https://rikkaheart.gumroad.com/l/xwzzf?layout=discover&recommended_by=search&_gl=1*pfe85g*_ga*NTAzODAxNzIwLjE3NDU0MjIwNDQ.*_ga_6LJN6D94N6*MTc0NTQyMjA0My4xLjEuMTc0NTQyMjQ2OC4wLjAuMA..

this one

it only says which things it needs not shaders

[somber sequoia]

heh, that's not very useful at all

[desert elk]

doesn't it have any read-me files included?

[karmic spindle]

nope

only the avatar

[ornate stump]

That's a very irresponsible creator.

[arctic ginkgo]

well at least it's free

but that's still annoying

[ornate stump]

Since it's gumroad, it's more common for people using poiyomi.

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'd guess that or liltoon

[karmic spindle]

how do i add liltoon?

[somber sequoia]

find the package, install according to its instructions

[ripe pond]

it happen again

help

also there are no MToon10 matereal in my current avi

[somber sequoia]

looks like you have some VRM plugin?

[ripe pond]

yes

[desert elk]

yeah

if you have univrm for vrm0, you can't install the one for vrm1

you can only have one at a time

weird but yeah

[ripe pond]

well I think found the probem

[desert elk]

what was it?

[ripe pond]

NVM I still need that VRM 1.0 extention

TLDR I was beleved that it is the probem and deleted it

[somber sequoia]

are you creating a VRM thing or importing one? if importing one, maybe go via Blender instead

[desert elk]

yeah true

if you just need the shader, fine

but if you wanna convert, do blender instead

[ripe pond]

Well I need to merge some avi since my last one broke

[desert elk]

merge?

[ripe pond]

yeah also it will result in me need to get that MToon10 matereal again I think

[mossy forge]

I'm trying to swap out some of the gogoloco animations to fit with my avatar but the tail isn't part of the humanoid rig so it isn't being animated. does anyone know how/if this is fixable?

[ripe pond]

how do I fix this

[somber sequoia]

edit the animations to move the tail however you want to

[somber sequoia]

are those the only two errors? If not, post the first 2-3

[ripe pond]

here is the full error log

[somber sequoia]

though if you have physbones often it "just works" 🙂

[somber sequoia]

second message - setup your rig humanoid, unless you're doing a fully non-humanoid avatar. Also the mipmaps one - there should be some "auto fix" buttons in the build window you can click

[ripe pond]

Which I HAve done and the last 2 error is the one after I atemp to compile it

[somber sequoia]

oh - I guess you didn't clear the console, I see

hard to say what's an actual error then, perhaps clear and try again

[somber sequoia]

right, so same errors as before.

[balmy barn]

look for fbx import errors ect

[languid parrot]

Okay so I figured out the issue was that for some reason the shape keys were altering the shape of the eye in unity but not in blender.

Changing blendshape normals to 'import' fixed the issue.

[sly birch]

quick question, why do some people see my index controller hands like this while others see them normal? Usually reloading the avi fixes it

[mystic marten]

Hey could someone help teach me with uploading a avi when their available im new to it and it had no tutorial or nothing and it wont let me upload it cause it keeps saying i have errors

[somber sequoia]

feel free to post errors, usually the first 2-3 (at the top) are the relevant ones

[quick parrot]

does anyone know if there’s a way to import only the clothes from a vroid into blender?

[mystic marten]

Alright cause everytime i try to build it says deny

[somber sequoia]

import the whole thing then remove what you don't want.

[quick parrot]

thanks!!

[oblique pumice]

i have tried to export my character but for some reason when i add the black outline it always turn this

[night ember]

Theres your outline

Howd you do it

Like with a shader or is it an actual mesh

[oblique pumice]

i use the outline from blender

and somehow

on the mirror is like this

[vagrant crater]

addedd some new vfx i got onto the avi now its giving me this i do not know what would be wrong with poi

[somber sequoia]

probably delete the Poiyomi folder in Assets and reinstall it

[vagrant crater]

OH YOU KNOW WHAT i bet it cause i moved the unity file

[somber sequoia]

unless you installed it via VCC and have it in the Assets folder, that won't work

[night ember]

what shader are you using and is the culling set correctly

[oblique pumice]

i dont remember the shader but the culling set is correctly

[night ember]

render queue maybe?

or masking if you used it

[buoyant slate]

So I go this avatar and all I'm trying to do is get it to set in a Tpose so I can fit new clothes on them but every single time I follow a video or guide the arms just go back down and messes up everything.

[somber sequoia]

You'd have to pose it then apply the armature modifier to make a new pose be the default

[buoyant slate]

Ive done that before and it dosent move them back

[balmy barn]

pose mode cats/mirror and apply rest mode ( i use box select to get 'alignment' line temporary )

[visual pivot]

So what would people recommend for a third-party animation software?

[buoyant slate]

how did you get that window thing on the right?

[balmy barn]

sidebar ? n toggle

[limpid cargo]

cats blender plugin

heavily recommend for vrchat creation

[buoyant slate]

thanks

[balmy barn]

bunch of shortcuts to things , blender have and automation for boring parts like viseme creation

4.2 lts + unofficial cats what im still using

[buoyant slate]

rjrkdhgvkjdzvbnrjkgsdhr I COULD HUG AND KISS YALL IT WORKED!

[somber sequoia]

blender

[buoyant slate]

;-; thank yall so so so so sooooo much!

[visual pivot]

specifically I want to edit some gogo animations will work for that

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure how to get those into anything but Unity.

[limpid cargo]

woo!!!

[limpid cargo]

you’ll have to do it in unity, since the animations are already in there

[buoyant slate]

now to work on getting my jacket modeled for it... if the sleeves dont explode XD

[limpid cargo]

good luck! come back if you need any more help 😊

[buoyant slate]

I hope now it should work, just know when I tried last time and did the shift click jacket > ARmature then ctrl + P to sutomatic deform weights sent the sleeves up in the air

[limpid cargo]

that’s because your armature wasn’t set as rest pose

now that it is, it should work now

[buoyant slate]

yay ;-;

[limpid cargo]

😊

[soft thistle]

i managed to fix my OC's shoulders, but there's one more problem, he might be too big for the game, i'm trying to change his default avatar height to around 1.50

[desert elk]

size it down in blender and override it l, move the viewpoint to be correct after

that's how I do it

some people size it in unity

but idk if it's good or not

I was told not to do that so 🤷

[blazing marlin]

how do i make an avatar not have that wobble? im making a mech via constraints, so the actual avatar isnt attached to the real skeleton, and anytime i move or stop, the avatar wobbles in place.

[buoyant slate]

watching a video on how to fit and rig, got it all scupted to my body, got rid of bones that was not needed for it, now it tells me to go and delete any vertex groups that are not needed anymore but they have different names. on the clothes vertex its called "Left shoulder" while the body vertex is "Shoulder.L" is it still going to work or do I have to edit the files to be the same?

[limpid cargo]

i would recommend using the same names as your bones, because you may have weight issues

vertex groups should match bone names

[buoyant slate]

so I need to renamed all of the ones on the clothes file I have then to what they are on the body?

also is it because the clothes file is a fbx and not a obj? I did delete it's old armature so it was just a mesh again

[limpid cargo]

still use the same names

everything should use the same names as the bones they are applied to

or else the armature will ignore it

[buoyant slate]

so my clothes has some vertex that my model doesnt have

[limpid cargo]

ignore them then

if they are twist bones

well that depends on the model

if the clothes work fine when you move only the normal body part, then you can just leave them there

[buoyant slate]

alright now what about the breast? on the clothes there is 3 but the body only has two and they are named different. If it matters the model can have them but I dont use them.

[limpid cargo]

i’m guessing you mean the boob root is the one that’s not on your avatar?

[buoyant slate]

boobroot is on my avatar

the clothes is left breast 0
left breast 1
left breast end

[mystic marten]

I got the pc version to upload finally but how do i add the quest version the uploaded version anyone have a tutorial?

[timber wharf]

do you have quest version itself already, ie yuor avi came with two different versions?

[buoyant slate]

got it all set and exported, now when I go to import it to start working on adding it, it's no longer modeled to my avatar ;-;

[desert elk]

you need to copy the blueprint ID of the pc version and attach it to the quest version (assuming you have it) then when you upload it in the sdk select Android as the platform

[mystic marten]

Oh ok thanks

[desert elk]

Like this :)

iOS is optional

has the same limits as Android (Quest)

[buoyant slate]

looks like its all messed up even though it was all perfect

even messed up my shape keys as well. At this point how much is it to pay someone cause this has been giving me a headache for days

[mystic marten]

Oh ty thats so helpful ^^

[desert elk]

you're welcome 😁

[buoyant slate]

why would after saving would it mess up all of my work on scupting?

[chilly elk]

Dose anyone know if there anyway I can get cutouts on quest for hair cards

[soft thistle]

the facial expressions submenus aren't showing up

[round comet]

Your best bet is to just make the hair card a solid texture

I usually do that by just bucket tooling onto the transparent part in an art program. No way to do the cutout

[timber wharf]

@chilly elk no, you just cut mesh into actual polygons

[round comet]

^ or this!

I personally like going the less tedious route

Depending on how complex the hair is

[vital grove]

Hello, I want to create an avatar of my oc, whats software should I use and how can I export the model to vrchat?

[round comet]

blender and unity (download vrchat creatorcompanion)

[vital grove]

Thank you now I need to learn how to model (I only know how to make low poly/cube characters) and rig

[timber wharf]

thats quite a curve🫠

you can rig decently for vrc via mixamo

otherwise rainhet i believe is the only source for the whole process

[soft thistle]

the thing is, there's only a gogoloco submenu and i'm trying to figure out how to add the face expressions in the radial menu

[timber wharf]

@soft thistle you have submenu but what is og exp menu setup?

[tulip skiff]

bit confused

[timber wharf]

@tulip skiff synced param is float while animator is int. or vice versa.

[tulip skiff]

ahh

[soft thistle]

there's part 1 and 2

[timber wharf]

@soft thistle og one. ie the one slapped into your avatar descriptor

main menu

[soft thistle]

oh yea this is the one

oh wait

i changed the avatar descriptor a little before i took a screenshot, does this look correct?

[timber wharf]

well, now youre missing gogo menu

and probly params

tho not sure how vrcf does those, maybe it autoadds them

[main finch]

Looking for help uploading my avatar . I actually know how to do it i would say buuut somehow when i click publish and build nothing happens the loading thing is just stuck at 0%

[main finch]

Cant seem to resolve the problem .. i dont understand unity lol

[somber meadow]

screenshot your unity, you're most likely in the prefab focus screen which prevents creating a prefab. Click the back arrow at the top left in the hierarchy if that's the case

[wet oar]

when i use texture color on this hair, the color goes to areas i don't want it to. the very bottom hair is the only color that should be green

its killing me

[frail badger]

hi update on yesterday's issue: if a light's range is too small, it doesnt render but i dont want the eye glow to like light up half the body. any better ideas for how to make eyes emit light (deliberately choosing my phrasing, i already have emissives set up)

or is this like. my only option

and if so is there a better way to do it

[arctic ginkgo]

i mean you can change the intensity to be lower, that may help

[timber wharf]

@frail badger uh, using lights at all is a poor choice, let alone NOT for purposes of lighting your surroundings, use hdr color intensity on top of emission texture and on pc itd make it as bloom as hard as it gets

if you dont need them even bloom then unlit shader is actually the cheapest performance wise as it gets, unlike lights.

[frail badger]

i mean i do have one for the purpose of lighting my surroundings

theres a flame id like to actively emit light

but ill look into that because it still feels not that bright

[main finch]

nothing moving in the Building avatar thing

[somber meadow]

Click this to exit prefab preview mode, the SDK cannot build prefabs while you're in this mode. Drag the prefab into the hierarchy instead of double clicking it

[timber wharf]

@main finch bro youre in prefab mode lol, click < on top of hierarchy and upload actual scene

blue backgroung = wont fly

[main finch]

I havent had that issue with previous avatars so that got me confused. I clicked on the little arrow and now my model dissapeared

Does this look right?

[somber meadow]

yes

[main finch]

I clicked on the build again and now its doing something atleast oop- thanks i hope it works now

[wary perch]

Just woke up, feeling better, but yes, this is how it is supposed to work. I’m going to attempt to rebuild this, and if it fails when rebuilding it from the ground up, I’ll come back here.

Wanted to be sure sleep deprived me described this correctly.

[soft thistle]

i've tested out my first vrc model, the only flaw is the 2d visemes, it looks like it's animated like a slot machine, how do i get it to not look like that?

[somber sequoia]

probably your transition times are too long

[soft thistle]

i should try setting it to 0.01

[balmy barn]

you need to set animation to constant somethingsomething, so they dont sliiiide to next (more for voice loop /animations, not the any state)

any state must be 'not transition to self' and two frames for the offset (one is slower)

I dont trust 0 time so mine usually 0.1

[sweet bridge]

What do you do if all of your private avatars got deleted

[mild mango]

Im trying to make an avatar that has its wings move, but its not working? I thought I got everything setup right but Im kinda at a loss.

(nvm, im dumb... if you come across this and have the same issue, make sure your phys bones have "is animated" checked. completely forgot)

[somber sequoia]

re-upload them I guess

[soft thistle]

turning off "can transition to self" will help, right?

[timber wharf]

wonder why tho, not like any private should be tagged other than being too heavy🤔

[obtuse flicker]

I have a cloak toggle where itll play an animation of the character being cloak (which switches the material), but on Quest it turns off the mesh. But for some reason the uncloak takes forever on quest. Like a minute or 2. All transitions are at 0 exit time and has exit time disabled

[timber wharf]

@soft thistle should never ever being used and always be disabled. probly there are some edgecases likecontact tracker but generally

[balmy barn]

never have 'can transition to self' on its like hammering the same state 100's of times instead of doing it once

sometime it does wierd things with animations

wd off/on mess probably

[timber wharf]

@obtuse flicker you should always have at least a single mesh being rendered, ie enable some tiny cube or smth

[obtuse flicker]

I do

But that usually makes it so it can never reappear again, right?

[soft thistle]

ok, now i think i've solved the problem, i wanna try to update this model, but i dunno how to since i might think it will just upload a duplicated version but with a few changes

[timber wharf]

what

already uploaded model uses pipeline manager id, its already assigned and your avi having a preview in upload page is a sign its just an update/replacement

also update your sdk, there shoyldnt be a checkbox for terms now

[obtuse flicker]

If this is the case thats not what is happening. When I uncloak for some reason it takes like 2 minutes for it to do that toggle on Quest

I dont get why this is happening. Ive never had this happen to me

Could it for some reason be because Im using the 3.8.1 beta?

The rest of the toggles are synced. The assets use VRCFury though

Except for the cloaking stuff that was done by me manually

[wary perch]

It only works with a toggle.

If I set it to a button, it doesn't work, and displays the button as blank, with the name "button text" if I set it to a toggle (which is NOT what I want) it works. I don't want this because I need a button for what I'm trying to do.

I have done everything to get this to work, even rebuilding my animator, parameter, and menu from the ground up. Nothing works when I use a button.

[somber sequoia]

when you say "button" do you mean in the menu? I saw mention of this the other day, not sure who it was

[lethal patrol]

Hello
I've found an... odd issue with my avtar after trying to VRClens to my avi
Removing it did not fix it

[somber sequoia]

pumkin's tools, enforce t-pose?

[lethal patrol]

unfortnutly nothing changed (it's also broken in game)

[somber sequoia]

ah that was a guess without knowing what's actually wrong

[lethal patrol]

as far as i know, what vrclens did was force my avtar to be at the origin, and now it's broken

[somber sequoia]

... was your avatar not at the origin?

[lethal patrol]

not at the begining it wasnt
(in hindsight it shouldve been)
but i did do anything about it an now i have issues

🫠

[obtuse flicker]

Yeah all the toggles are synced and doesnt take forever except for this one toggle

And people on PC are also synced and dont take forever to see me

[wary perch]

I've put in a request to re-open this canny post. https://feedback.vrchat.com/sdk-bug-reports/p/372-beta2-action-menu-buttons-are-blank the reason being is because I'm having the exact same problem, and I have been unable to fix it via updating the SDK. The only solution I've found is to replace said button with a toggle, which defeats the purpose of a charged attack system.

I only use desktop mode because I don't have VR.

I've attempted to put the avatar into a separate project, assuming the project health was poor, and got the same result, I rebuilt the animator, menu, and parameter, and got the same result, I ran system file checker before launching the SDK, it fixed something but I still got the same result.

The only difference is that the button actually has its text, and icon in the gesture manager, but both the gesture manager, and VRChat its self have the same issue, they both don't have functional buttons.

[somber sequoia]

ahh I was wondering what that looked like, haven't seen it.

[wary perch]

I even tried making a separate FX layer from the stock animator. No luck.

Tried deleting the stock animator. No luck.

Tried the old fixes others helped me use. No luck.

Every single time I have this bug, the solution is different, but now I literally can't find a solution.

[obtuse flicker]

Ive even removed all VRCFury assets and it still has the delay for Quest

[somber sequoia]

seems like a menu problem, not animator problem

[wary perch]

I'll show my menu.

One moment.

This is the parameter, animator parameter, and menu.

This doesn't function regardless of what I do besides changing the button to a toggle.

[obtuse flicker]

Ive even checked with gesture manager to see if theres a delay for the toggle on the quest side, there is not

[wary perch]

I've restarted my animator, menu, and parameter to ONLY focus on what broke.

One at a time.

Could it be due to having too many menus stored on my SSD, and now I have to format my entire SSD just to reinstall everything, and only work on that avatar, and that avatar alone?

[somber sequoia]

that would be bizarre

Seems like you're quite frustrated with this.

[wary perch]

It happened 3 times, each time the solution was different, and the old solutions didn't work for this.

Once my animator was to blame. One time I was told to use a trigger. The third time I think I had to remove the animator controller from the animator component on the avatar. None of those solutions worked. Only setting the buttons to toggles worked, but I don't want to use a toggle, I want to have it so I hold a button to use a charged attack, or tap it to use a normal attack.

I even copied the animator from another avatar with the same system, and it wouldn't work. Used copied versions of the parameter, and menu, and it didn't work.

Bear in mind, I copied it from avatars that ARE functional both in game, and in gesture manager.

I can't figure it out, and I'm starting to consider just giving up, and throwing out the project for good. This HAS to be a bug with the SDK. I can't see it as anything else. I never had this issue with buttons in the past until the creator companion became the primary SDK manager. Even then, I had a decently long run of the solutions to problems being "I forgot to add my menu" or "I forgot to set a condition" and I could fix it within a few minutes, and laugh it off. Now I upload an avatar, and out of the box, all buttons don't work. I try to find a solution, and scramble for weeks trying to find the solution. Someone gives me a solution, but next time it happens, that solution is null.

I just remembered what the third solution was, and that was putting a condition on the transition to the state it goes to when you don't press the button. I tried that, but had no luck.

This was supposed to be my final avatar, the one I put all my ideas onto from here until the end of my time on VRChat minus small, one off projects.

[glass geyser]

ok so as seen here, I gave my dog avatar tongue physbones so the tongue can flop and be pulled by others when he sticks it out, thing here is it easily clips through the mouth and looks odd, so how can I make it look better?

[wary perch]

Could I possibly speak to a developer of the SDK?

I know it's a tall ask, but I really wanna fix this.

My thought process is if I speak to a developer who works on the SDK, they'd be able to tell me exactly what to do in order to fix it.

Either that, or record the bug, and there would be a fix a few weeks later.

[mossy bear]

So I’ve made an avi and already uploaded it to vrchat the other day but is there any way I can edit that same avi to add toggles and fix things on it without reloading it?

[quaint crescent]

I have an issue with my avatar. On pc my avatar is fine, but for other quest users, my avatar is floating like 3 feet the ground

[arctic ginkgo]

your avatar appears to be backwards

[wary perch]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/sdk-bug-reports/p/avatar-buttons-dont-work-again I give up, I made a bug report.

[wanton cedar]

just a tiny bit backwards

[arctic ginkgo]

physbone limiters, also start the bone at the outside of the mouth so it can't bend from inside. If the rotation is inside the mouth it will clip, if outside, it likely won't

[wary perch]

I pray that I can upload what I intended to in time.

[arctic ginkgo]

i mean it's animating in the "motorcycle pose", but backwards

[wanton cedar]

im just messing w you

[arctic ginkgo]

which has only happened to me when i named my left/right bones opposite

[wanton cedar]

i gotta love when it decides to break the kneecaps and hits that pose

[arctic ginkgo]

just check your bone names, make sure left/right are correct

i've messed it up before, had a brain fart moment lol

[wanton cedar]

dude i hate when i merge bones and it says (whatever the bone name is)_ merged

instead of replacing the bone

[arctic ginkgo]

idk what you're merging with but i use this:
https://github.com/vr-voyage/blender_bones_merger

[wanton cedar]

i use cats

[glass geyser]

ok, so how do I start the bone from the outside cause I know I put the physbone component on "tongue 1" bone, I just set up 2 bones for it where I assigned a half of the tongue's verticies to them.

[icy wyvern]

bruh for some reason my paramaters arent controlling my animation (except the eyes, apparantly??) despite having the paramaters seemingly set??

[arctic ginkgo]

omg i remember when i used to merge bones manually using weight mix modifiers

[wanton cedar]

nothing i cant fix tho, just a little annoying sometimes

[arctic ginkgo]

is the animation state playing?

[arctic ginkgo]

just start the bone from the outside?

did you rig the tongue yourself?

then you can put the bone on the outside

[icy wyvern]

ok so for more context, im tryin to do a hue shift for like several pieces of clothing using poi and then manually changing the color of the eyes (they use a diff shader and i cant be bothered to learn how to make my own tbh) and when i change the paramaters for the hue shift in play mode only the eyes change

ive tried using gesture manager as well

same issue

i can grab some screenshots if that would help

ive lowkey been having this issue for months - even tried making an entirely new project file

[glass geyser]

yeah the avi didn't have bones for the tongue so I had to rig it myself, I put the first half starting from inside and the second half is all what is visible when he bleps.

[arctic ginkgo]

did you enable "is animated" on your shader and the lock the shader before testing?

you have to do that for animated poiyomi properties

[glass geyser]

oh, so instead I just have one bone for it and that will be just the outside or I rig just the outside on 2 bones since I thought to have a vrc physbone it needs to have a child bone

[arctic ginkgo]

it does not need to have a child bone, you can use an endpoint instead

but it's up to you how many bones you use

in the space i drew the one bone you could divide it into multiple

if you want it really smooth

[icy wyvern]

im gonna double check all these but im pretty sure yes

[arctic ginkgo]

see multiple bones, all starting outside

[arctic ginkgo]

okay, so then back to my original question, are the animation states playing?

[glass geyser]

oh, ok. when I went into edit mode, the tongue doesn't have many verticies since it's an optimized model with 26k tris to be excellent on pc anyways, so I'll see how it goes just using a single bone

it has even less on quest

[arctic ginkgo]

you don't need many polys dw

i make low poly models, usually under 15k with outlines (so under 7k practically)

[icy wyvern]

im not really sure what you mean by the animation states playing ngl

like is it scrolling through?

[arctic ginkgo]

scrolling through?

[glass geyser]

oh, ok. yeah cause quest one has 7,600 tris and is a good rating. but thank you, I'll try that right now.

[arctic ginkgo]

i mean when you test with your emulator of choice, look in the animator tab with your FX controller open, and select the avatar, do the animation states that should be playing have a blue line at the bottom of them

[icy wyvern]

everything has a blue line, yes

mb took me a second to figure that out

[upbeat hatch]

good evening, im trying to upload an avatar i purchased but i keep getting this error, ive never seen it before. im not sure what to do to fix it

[wary perch]

The SDK is pretty much completely broken. I can't add any buttons. They worked in older versions, but now they don't.

[arctic ginkgo]

okay, then it could be a few reasons, make sure nothing else is animating that same property

also make sure the animation works in preview

[icy wyvern]

so you cant have more than one thing animating a property? i have like hue shift animations for all the cloths, just the tops, the bottoms, accessories, ect all seperated

[ornate stump]

You can with a proper planing and you know exactly how to do it. Otherwise, keep it simple by having one layer animate one thing.

[icy wyvern]

ah

maybe there is where i fucked up lmao

though theyre all radial sliders and have different parims so idk

🥲

[ornate stump]

It's more about some layer trying to animate the same thing. Don't you think the All layer would contain something that also is in other layers below?

[glass geyser]

@arctic ginkgo so now that I have just one bone, how do I make it an endpoint? or does it just work when I add the vrc phys bone component to it?

[icy wyvern]

wait the orders of the layers actually matter im an idiot

no wonder ts wasnt working

[ornate stump]

Order matters but this still doesn't solve the whole issue of having multiple layer trying to control the same thing.

[icy wyvern]

i just like having options thats all

would it be better to just get rid of the all layer and have everything on individual ones?

[ornate stump]

It's up to you to choose.

Either All for one or individually.

But not both.

[icy wyvern]

fair enough

i moved the all layer to the bottom of the hue stack and it works now, ill prob do some tweaking to figure out the best layout

the way ive been dealing with this issue since january (the last time i tried to fix it) and never realised the orders of the layers have meaning is insane

ty

[obtuse flicker]

I tested by uploading the quest version on PC. Its now delayed for everyone (including PC) but not on my end

[wary perch]

I want to be sure I'm not going crazy.
A button on a boolean value works by setting the boolean to true as long as the button is pressed, right?
A toggle sets a boolean to true when you press it once, and sets it to false when you press it again, right?
When hooked up to a boolean value, theoretically, both should be able to both activate the on/off or true/false state of a boolean. That's how it worked when I started using buttons when SDK3 for avatars first released. That's how I remember it working.
Did they change the way it works so buttons can only access triggers, or integer values?

I want to ping sipp, since he's the expert on this, but I dare not do that. I know that's a big no go.

[tough cedar]

I'm getting error every time i try to build and publish a avatar i don't not know how to fix it somebody help

[wary perch]

Is this on something you bought, or something you put together yourself? I'm almost positive 90% of what's going on is the result of bugs.

[tough cedar]

bought

[wary perch]

If you slap together a cube avatar, and upload that under a separate project, how well does that work? Like a unity default cube, and an avatar descriptor. Just to test. Might be a problem with the avatar you bought. You'd bring that up with the seller.

[tough cedar]

ok give me a min

[gentle goblet]

Ack so I added a new tongue to my avi and everything works fine except for the fact that when I move around even though it's tiny until it's out it stretches and clips through my face..I have had this issue with other things and usually it is because of weight painting but I don't know what to weight paint here to help it>~>

[tough cedar]

a different avatar worked fine

[wary perch]

Okie, then yeah, you'd want to talk to the original creator of said avatar you purchased.

[tough cedar]

ok

[mossy bear]

does anyone know where I can find the exclusions for phys bones I might be a little bit blind

[ornate stump]

What exclusion?

[ornate stump]

Do you rather mean "ignore transform"?

[ornate stump]

Also you must not put physbone component on the head bone itself. It's going to break your head tracking.

[mossy bear]

Ohhh thank you I see it now

[mossy bear]

So I cant get phys bones for my ears?

[ornate stump]

Not with this way.

[mossy bear]

What's a better way?

[ornate stump]

Put physbone on ears bone itself.

[mossy bear]

ah okay

and that would be on the ears part underneath the head drop down?

[ornate stump]

That's the ear bones.

[mossy bear]

Okay thank you. I'm new to this making avis stuff.

[wanton cedar]

[desert elk]

really? I never noticed that and I've always been putting them there 🤔

what about hair? is the only "correct" way putting a component on every single hair strand or making a hair root bone that would be under the head bone?
what about colliders? can they be on the head bone?
I'm asking cause I've never had problems with it before and I'm curious why it could cause problems and what makes it do that

[limpid cargo]

so this is a weight issue technically…
basically while the tongue is away from the bone, it still stretches to try and rotate around the bone. (this isn’t a problem while it’s out because then it’s directly on the bone!) so to fix it, go back into blender and move the bone a bit closer to the off position in edit mode, maybe between its on and off position. and also make the off position a little bigger (you mentioned that it’s tiny when off), if that doesn’t work, or you want extra, move the off position closer to the bone too.

[rapid kestrel]

I believe the head-physbone thing is make sure a physbone doesn't effect the head, the component itself can be on the head or point to the head.

By default physbones are set to Ignore transforms with multiple children, and most heads have lots of children. So it would effect those children while not effecting the head bone.

[desert elk]

that's what I thought too! that it couldn't affect Humanoid bones

but putting the component there was fine

[mossy bear]

I ended up putting it onto the actual ear and tail bones in the end

[ornate stump]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-dynamics/physbones#humanoid-bones

[desert elk]

i still haven't had issues 🤔 is there a way to check if they actually happen at all?

or is it only a full body thing?

[ornate stump]

It would also happen on desktop where head would stay stiff to neck bone. But I also notice, recently there weren't any people with this issue anymore, so thing might changed since physbone v1.1, but I don't bother to check it.

[desert elk]

yeah, cause I never saw that happen at all, so I'm surprised

and I haven't been making avatars before v1.1

[wary perch]

Something just crossed my mind. When you extracted the package, and opened up the avatar scene, did it already have an ID attached to it? If not, did the creator's avatar page mention anything about using a specific SDK version, or a system like VRCFury?

[tough cedar]

yes it did it mentioned vrcfury

[ripe pond]

Btw what the difference between Modular Avatar and VRCFury anyway?

[ornate stump]

You can read documents for both package to see what tools are available.

[ripe pond]

I was read both documentation but I still can't see the difference between them.

[ornate stump]

Because many of their components share functionality.

[ripe pond]

So they praticaly the same thing, right?

[ornate stump]

For some part yes.

[ripe pond]

Btw on abit of a tangent note, do I need phybone colider?

[ornate stump]

If you want it.

[ripe pond]

if so is there a tool to automaticly deleted duplicate phybone

[ornate stump]

What is the definition of duplicate physbone?

[ripe pond]

This; where multiple colider share the same posistion

[ornate stump]

Your problem rather is in blender. Not in unity. You could also just don't add physbone collider component in unity.

[ripe pond]

So am I just leave it as it is?

[ornate stump]

You could.

[ripe pond]

Accualy can this casue my laptop to crash due to too much computation?

[ornate stump]

Another problem you should notice is those object aren't parent to their respective bone. So having all of those is just useless anyway.

[ripe pond]

Oh Should I parented it then or deleted it?

[ornate stump]

If this can crash your labtop then you woun't be able to play vrc at all.

[ornate stump]

Either way you want.

[ripe pond]

What does that colider does anyway?

[ornate stump]

No idea.

[desert elk]

nothing

is it a VRoid?

[ripe pond]

Yes it is from VRoid

[desert elk]

if you're already using cats, just go ahead and go to MMD Options and press "fix model"

this will get rid of all of the bones/colliders that do absolutely nothing and only take up space

[ripe pond]

Thank alot, hopefully this stop my laptop from crashing whend rendering

[desert elk]

it could help

[ripe pond]

Btw how do I stop it from merging all my cloth and main avi together?

[desert elk]

merging as in?

if they're separate objects with their own armatures, you can do that manually or with Custom Model Creation in cats
if you mean combining meshes either "Join All Meshes" in cats or ctrl + j

[ripe pond]

I mean stoping Meshes to merge as I need them seperate to setup cloth using MA

but I manage to fix that issule now

[desert elk]

if you're using cats' custom model creation you can untick "merge meshes"

I do that always

[desert elk]

sorry, I misread

you can also separate things by material if they're already merged

[ripe pond]

that is ok however blender jush crash and I forgot to save my work

[desert elk]

ouch

[ripe pond]

thankfully autosave manage to save the work before crash by the look of it

[nocturne tendon]

excuse me

I need help

My avatar is an animated generic rig, so everything is set up by me completely, the idle animation is completely frozen (which was intentional) but for some reason the front and back walking animations dont play while the left and right animations do play, why is this? I even tried remaking my "velocity" float parameters for x and z, and even tried remaking my blendtree and still nothing is working right, also the animations work on the model's rig.

I'm using mixamo animations

[small dew]

can anyone help me port a VRC model/avatar into blender?

Or rather how to open a VRC model in unity? I've never played vrc, but I downloaded a model that I really want to use

[desert elk]

Did you buy the files to it online?

it's not possible to import favourited avatars into unity/blender

not unless you bought the files for them

[ornate stump]

Might as well show how you created the base layer for locomotion.

[small dew]

I bought the files, yeah! But they're in "unitypackage" files

[desert elk]

alright

you need to get vrc creator companion and unity 2022.3.22f1

[small dew]

is it coo' if i dm ya?

[desert elk]

nope

make a project in VCC and pick the avatar 2022 template, open it and import the unitypackage into the project

[wanton cedar]

make sure to hit the "open me"

[small dew]

Okay I'll download the VCC

[terse nest]

So I've been having a issue, where I jump, and the lower body sways away from the neck and doesn't stay in place. I was wondering if someone can help me with this little issue.

[wanton cedar]

dont just drag the model out where it says "models"

[small dew]

I also have a texture pack and optional attachments to the model too

im more looking for a way to pose the model instead of using it in vrc, if that changes anything

[wanton cedar]

where did you get the model

[small dew]

i bought it off booth

[ornate stump]

Spine.001 should be assigned to Hips.

[wanton cedar]

you would have to import the model into unity first, then if you just want to throw it into blender. you can close unity, go into blender, hit upload fbx located on the top left where i think it says file or some shit. go into the unity project, go to assets, find your avatar folder, and you will find an fbx file somewhere

then click that and upload it

[small dew]

is it coo if i dm you? this channel is a bit overwhelming

[wanton cedar]

No

[small dew]

okay so i gotta wait for unity editor to finish downloading first

[wanton cedar]

did you get the right unity

[nocturne tendon]

nevermind, fixed it!

[small dew]

Says Unity Editor not found

i'll uninstall the editor and let VRC install the version it wants

[ripe pond]

How do I get teh cutout effect for quest avatar?

[ornate stump]

You don't.

[ripe pond]

So I have to use additive + multiply shader trick?

[ornate stump]

Yes probably.

[wanton cedar]

i need to sleep so you will have to find another person to help you

[desert elk]

i told you which version is needed
you may wait a long time if you're installing through VCC

it's kinda laggy

[desert elk]

or use the knife in blender to cut around the texture to fit the mesh

[terse nest]

So I did put Spine-001 in place of the hips, but now the hips are doing this when I jump in game.

Very interesting stuff here.

[wanton cedar]

[raven gazelle]

For some reason, the back of the avatar's head is visible in first-person view, even though the ViewPosition is set in the VRC Avatar Descriptor; is this because it is not a Humanoid rig and the default animations are not available?

[desert elk]

it could be

I think you can't move the view point of generic rigs

[balmy barn]

generic will do that , not going to scale your head to 0

[raven gazelle]

Thanks. That's a shame. I'll try to find a good solution to this.

[small dew]

Can anyone help me with importing textures? I have zero experience and have never actually played VRC (just want the model)

The texture pack is https://mayonassey.booth.pm/items/5402400

[limpid cargo]

please do explain what this trick is, i’m curious

[ripe pond]

So Basicly when you combine additive and multiply shader it act symilar to transparant and cutout setting

[limpid cargo]

how exactly do you “combine” shaders

[ripe pond]

Techniquely you set the mesh to hav 2 materail insted of 1 and you add a combination of additive/multiply vrc/mobile particlein to it to get the look you want

[limpid cargo]

interesting

i thought a selection of faces could only have one material on it at a time

[small dew]

How do I apply a texturepack?

[desert elk]

drag the textures into the material slots in a material

[small dew]

but I don't know which goes where

[trim island]

wasnt sure where to ask but anyone knows how to reduce the radius to the sphere radius in particle system? ive played with alot of settings but no luck , thank you in advance!

[desert elk]

What shader are you using?

[small dew]

Poiyomi I think?

The eyes are different things, I don't really know what to place where

Like there's no Metallic in the base model

[desert elk]

you can still add it

when you click on a material

there are different spots you can put textures in

poiyomi has a spot for metalic

but idk where exactly, cause I don't use poiyomi

[small dew]

this?

[desert elk]

yeah in the inspector

you need to unlock the shader first

[small dew]

right, but I'm still unsure what goes where

Like all of these are different names, I don't really understand what I'm looking at

[desert elk]

base colour is the normal texture I think

emissions are emissions

metalic is metalic

you can always search inside of poiyomi

there is a search button

[small dew]

i've lost what menu I had. So this is what I'm seeing right now

[desert elk]

so click the material again

you can always lock a menu with the lock icon 🔒

[small dew]

The material in the project tab or inspector?

[desert elk]

the one your avatar uses

[tough cedar]

yes it did it was vrcfury

[desert elk]

doesn't matter where you take it from

[small dew]

so the base model instead of the texture pack?

i'm extremely new to this, this is my first time ever seeing this stuff

[wary perch]

Did it specify a specific version, or did it not specify. If it specified a specific version, try that one first.

[tough cedar]

it didnt but ill relook

[desert elk]

does the texture pack come with its own materials?

if yes you can just drag them onto the model

[tough cedar]

i dont see anything

[ripe pond]

Does anyone have any Idea why does my glasses doesn't appear ANYWHERE

[small dew]

How do I do that?

[ripe pond]

it should be inside thoes sub folder if not you might need to recover it some how

[small dew]

Oh I think so?

[ripe pond]

yep that it that the matereal

now you just need to drag and drop it on to mesh or in to the matareal element

[small dew]

oooh cool!

I'm a tad unsure what some of these parts are referring to though. Like diafragm or emo cards

[ripe pond]

Process of elimination each mesh should have atleast 1 matereal

[small dew]

so go through the ones that share names or fit?

[ripe pond]

Sort of, btw do all the mesh alrady has atleast 1 matereal? if so under Skinned Mesh Renderer's materials section look to see how many slot are there if there are 2 or more start testing it to see witch material look right in that slot

[small dew]

so I've managed to apply more correctly

only leaves me with the gun, the backpack, and the glowy bits along her sides

nothing seems to match those

[tranquil obsidian]

Hey I’m making an avatar but idk how to make clothing for it.

[ripe pond]

Let start from the begining do you alrady have clothing file make?

[still shuttle]

You can make clothing from scratch in blender, there are a bunch of YouTube tutorials. Or you could find pre-made clothes and fit them to your avatar, also in blender

[tranquil obsidian]

Idk where to start tho

[tranquil obsidian]

Idk where to start by making them

[still shuttle]

Youtubeeee

[ripe pond]

Eighter create it from scrach like Cosmo said or using vroid xware system to put on and auto fit the cloth

[spare dome]

Hi does anyone know hot to fix this ?

[still shuttle]

Looks like ur gesture manager is broken

[spare dome]

so fresh reinstall

[still shuttle]

Remove it from the project and it should be fine

[tranquil obsidian]

I wanna try creating it from scratch but do I do a new project, then make the clothing?

[desert elk]

if you wanna make it from scratch you should watch some blender tutorials first

learn the basics

[tranquil obsidian]

Ik some blender, like I made this but had a lot of help rigging and texturing.

But the clothing for it I got from a friend

[spare dome]

okay one more question the camera for the avi is outside the body and far behind the model to where you can see outside the map in vrc how do i fix that

[desert elk]

1. is the position of the avatar at world origin?
2. is the X of the viewpoint 0?

both of those should be true

if the position of your avatar can't be world origin, due to the place its origin is, you will need to go to blender. Move it to world origin and apply all transforms

and import back

[spare dome]

I have no idea how to check if that’s it

[desert elk]

click on your avatar

what's its position in unity?

and your viewpoints coordinates

they're in the avatar descriptor

[spare dome]

I’ll have to check later on I’m at work

[desert elk]

yeah, so if those two things aren't true this could be the root of your problem

[spare dome]

And the camera can’t be fixed in unity ?

[desert elk]

wait, by the camera you mean an extra camera you added or what?
cause I assumed you meant the viewpoint

[spare dome]

Yeah, the viewpoint for the model is outside of the body and it’s like way back in the map in vrc

[desert elk]

so yeah, that's what you'd need to xheck

[spare dome]

Okay but question the model was a pre made unity package will blender open that ?

[desert elk]

there should be an fbx in unity's assets

blender will take that

[spare dome]

One more question I’m not like stupid or any stupid coding am I because that’s a lost cause on me

[still shuttle]

If you're asking about having to code to make avatars, no you dont have to, as far as I know the only coding done is to make unity tools? Like I know someone who codes tools to make avi creation easier in unity. But its not like something you HAVE to do to make an avatar

There might be some things you gotta code to do but honestly I have been makin avis for like 3 yrs and never hade to code anything

[mystic marten]

Now that i learned how to upload where should i start? Learning how to add tails and ears, basic assets like a hat?, retexturing?, or learning how to convert blender to unity? What are good tutorials for unity as well?

[somber sequoia]

you're right, no coding required for avatars. Tools, optionally worlds, yep.

[wary perch]

If that's the case you'd definitely need to take it up with the original creator. They might need to fix it for the latest SDK. Given how buggy 3.8.0 is, I doubt it will be a quick update, nor do I believe they'd be able to get it working WITH 3.8.0. You don't know until you ask them for a hand first. Don't get your hopes up, the SDK really needs some help before I'd consider using it.

[keen crystal]

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[dark jay]

How do u animate a gun shooting to summon something

I want that something summoned to stay until i turn off the toggle

[sleek tapir]

Help?

Viewpoint is setup properly too

Idk how to fix this 🙏

[limpid cargo]

can you post a clearer picture of that red error? it’s hard to read

[somber sequoia]

or just type the message

origin problem may be that your avatar's origin is not the floor it's standing on, which you have to fix in Blender.

[limpid cargo]

in blender, select all, and object > apply > “apply transform” should reset the origin

[somber sequoia]

assuming though it's actually standing in the right spot, and just the origin is wrong

[limpid cargo]

i think we will have to wait until the red error is clearer to give a feedback about that.

[sleek tapir]

It was smth abt the bone beeing size 0

[somber sequoia]

I doubt that message says anything about the origin

[sleek tapir]

Fsr its green now

[limpid cargo]

well they seem to have a chest issue too, that is what i meant

[sleek tapir]

^

[limpid cargo]

please type the error or post a clearer screenshot.

[sleek tapir]

“Chest Transform ‘bip.chest’ has bone length of zero”

But now its for some reason green

I havent modified it at all

[somber sequoia]

well that's a win 🙂

[sleek tapir]

Wb the feet? Im assuming thats whats causing whatever this is

[somber sequoia]

what is that exactly?

[sleek tapir]

The avatars view

The view point is setup correctly

And the avatar is invisible

Im assuming it has smth to do with the feet beeing “under the floor”

[somber sequoia]

ahh, yeah I see

[sleek tapir]

Anyway to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

I said about fixing the origin, do that first

[sleek tapir]

So select all the stuff in the model?

Rig and props?

And ofc parts?

[somber sequoia]

any object which is not at a scale of 1 and located at the origin

[sleek tapir]

On the fbx im assuming

[somber sequoia]

in blender

[sleek tapir]

Well ya on the fbx in blender

[somber sequoia]

semantics - it's not a fbx file until you export it from blender

[sleek tapir]

assumint its the option i highlighted

[somber sequoia]

again, this assumes your model is already located at the origin, but its origin point is not.

[sleek tapir]

It is

[somber sequoia]

ok good

[sleek tapir]

i figure this is not supposed to look like this

[somber sequoia]

probably no ideal

all those origin points don't seem to be at the origin

[sleek tapir]

How would i fix that?

[somber sequoia]

the apply transforms thing you are doing

[sleek tapir]

do i keep using it?

[somber sequoia]

I don't know the state of things so really couldn't tell you how to fix it

[sleek tapir]

I could send the model so u can take a look

[somber sequoia]

that's getting into commission territory for me

[sleek tapir]

Ah dang.

[somber sequoia]

from that pic it looks like the body parts are all separate objects - I'd merge them together into one body, personally.

probably before you did whatever you did to make them move to the wrong locations though

[sleek tapir]

so like

ctrl j

?

[somber sequoia]

yep

make sure you apply transforms before joining objects though, or it'll get weird

[sleek tapir]

i want to keep some objects not joined cus of toggle and texture purpouses

[somber sequoia]

you don't need to for either of those, but sure, up to you.

[sleek tapir]

so apply all transforms than join?

[somber sequoia]

it's what I said two lines ago

[sleek tapir]

just making sure

did what u told me to, smth tells me this isnt right

[somber sequoia]

better to read the docs on what these things do and also make backups, if you aren't sure about what a thing will do.

yeah I don't know what's going on there from the images you've sent, sorry

[vagrant dock]

Look like Freddy but as Bonnie

[sleek tapir]

any clue on how to make this work

[vagrant dock]

I’m a nerd in fnaf but tell me your problem while I read the messages

[sleek tapir]

short term, these

the chest magically fixed itself

[vagrant dock]

Night need re rig it. Im a roblox builder that uses blender occasionally

[somber sequoia]

I bet you meant "uses" but this is funnier

[vagrant dock]

Yea

My big fingers vs phone keyboard. It also autocorrects it sometimes to wrong thing

[sleek tapir]

Buddy is suing blender 😭

[sleek tapir]

Already tried rerigging it, while the rig worked it didnt go as planned.

All the parts were… questionable

Didnt even make it into vrc

This is way further than with the rerig

I feel like whatever is happening here is part of the legs issue

Cus my viewpoint is completely fine

[vagrant dock]

This is way beyond what I self taught myself to know

What did you export it as?

[sleek tapir]

FBX

[vagrant dock]

Alr

[sleek tapir]

Thats the recommended file format for avatars

[vagrant dock]

Just checking. Did you sculp or did it different?

[sleek tapir]

As in..?

[vagrant dock]

I realy not sure what to call it.

You know when you extrude objects and reshape it instead of using the sculpt tool

[sleek tapir]

I didnt touch the sculpt tool

Neither reshaped objects

[vagrant dock]

Usually people use the sculpt tool

Honestly this is way beyond what I learn so

[tardy torrent]

How would I go about optimizing bones I mainly only see things about optimizing physbones

[sleek tapir]

I wanna make this avatar real 😭

My entire group says we should go with these designs

And im not exagerating

[willow gulch]

hey im having some trouble adding this phone asset to my avi and making it grabbable. i spent 10 hours yesterday and followed the tutorial exactly but i feel like im missing something. would anyone be able to help me with that?

[somber sequoia]

bring it into blender (or similar) and remove or merge bones

[tardy torrent]

ty

[fiery epoch]

Does anyone know how to make avatar particles visible in mirrors?

[somber sequoia]

make them double-sided rendering (i.e. cull off)

mirrors see the back-side of particles, and that usually isn't set to render 'cause that's the only thing that sees the back side of them

[sleek tapir]

im gonna loose it with this avatar chat

[somber sequoia]

this one here?

[glass geyser]

medium rating is perfectly fine as it won't get blocked from performance on the default settings. I just block very poor so I can still see poor ratings

[prisma thunder]

Hi! I suck at blender, how could I make skintight clothing as a blendshape?

I have an idea of how to make the blendshape, but I can only extrude vertices and the manually connect them one by one

[somber sequoia]

shakep keys are basically changes in vertex position from the basis. So you create one and then reshape the mesh however you like.

In this case perhaps start with the shrinkwrap modifier? You can apply a modifier as a shape key

[prisma thunder]

No clue how to do that 🤷

My plan was to extrude vertices and connect them so I could make a blendshape with them shrinking to disappear, so I could avoid rigging or anything else

Hopefully at least

[limpid cargo]

would be best to do shift+A (or maybe it’s just A? i forgot)

i’m very sorry i didn’t respond while you were having issues

[somber sequoia]

you can't change the vertex count with a shape key, those vertices will exist even when it's off

[prisma thunder]

I know

[somber sequoia]

but you certainly can do the shrink to disappear thing

[prisma thunder]

I've spent all my time optimizing avatars, but suck at actually making anything in blender 😭

[willow gulch]

if i want to make a phone on my avatar grabbable, do i need to add physbone colliders to my fingies?

[somber sequoia]

your hand already has a physbone collider

[willow gulch]

buh

its not working :(

[willow gulch]

i can show you everything ive done so far i just dont know what to do atp ive put so much time into it and got nowhere

[somber sequoia]

I haven't been paying attention, just answered that one question

[willow gulch]

😭

im trying to add a grabbable phone to my avi

[somber sequoia]

a physbone certainly will work, those are grabbable.

or a contact receiver in which you must make a fist

[willow gulch]

i added it to the phone

[somber sequoia]

depends on how you want it to work

[willow gulch]

i want to grab it with my trigger and it stay in my hand until i put it back to the holster

i added the fx and everything it came with

and added that to my avi

[somber sequoia]

yeah you don't need a physbone for that.

[willow gulch]

ahhh

i at least have the phone on my holster in game but it doesnt wanna go to my hand

[somber sequoia]

how did you set that up?

[willow gulch]

i can send the tutorial i used, its only 10 mins long

and somehow it took me 10 hours to follow it 😭

[somber sequoia]

I was hoping for a quick one-line description, I'm not going to watch a tutorial

[willow gulch]

sorry

so first i imported it, put the whole thing under my avi, added something called "tp left" under my left wrist, in animator i repositioned the tp left, i linked the fx with my avatar, and combined my avis fx options with the phone options which has phonegrab, buttons etc i believe for animations

[somber sequoia]

sounds like it uses parent constraints and the 'tp' are targets

[willow gulch]

yes it does!

[somber sequoia]

that's how I'd do this

[willow gulch]

does rhis help at all?

[somber sequoia]

probably update those to VRC Parent Constraints, but otherwise, good

[drifting temple]

is there a way to maek this graph to into the negative?

[willow gulch]

these were the existing constraints and it didnt work, could updating them to vrc fix the issue

[somber sequoia]

probably not related

[willow gulch]

dang

[somber sequoia]

which field is that?

[willow gulch]

does actually grabbing the item have anything to do with fx/animations?

[drifting temple]

max angle in the limits of a physbone component

I want to make it so the last bone curves a certain way

[somber sequoia]

how would a negative angle make sense here?

[somber sequoia]

contacts/gestures trigger animations, animations then do the work of moving things where they go, swapping constraint weights, etc.

[drifting temple]

I totally forgot about pitch and yaw! disregard my last question

[willow gulch]

this is what i got goin on

[somber sequoia]

aha!

[somber sequoia]

well that "phone hand left" animation layer's weight is 0 - that would prevent it from working

[willow gulch]

OH

should i put it to 1? and does it need an avatar mask?

[somber sequoia]

it should be 1 if you want it to work, and no, you don't generally need a mask in the FX animator

[willow gulch]

okay ill test that out

[drifting temple]

I can't grab physbones in teh games windows for some reason, even though play mode is on and the physbones have grabbing enabled and a radius

[willow gulch]

praying it works now

I actually broke my avatar trying to do this yesterday

i reuploaded everything into a new unity project luckily i remembered how to do my toggles for my custom fits so that part only took me like 10 mins

[ionic rivet]

the thing in unity that lets you login and actually upload avatars isnt showing up anymore ive tried uninstalling and reinstalling everything and even factory reset my pc. how do i get it back

[willow gulch]

its the vrchat sdk at the top

if you dont have that make sure you are opening the project via vcc

[ionic rivet]

im just blind as fuck

[somber sequoia]

if you have script compile errors (see the console), sometimes that won't load

[willow gulch]

xD

[ionic rivet]

i got it

[willow gulch]

yayyy

no i feel u

im so dumb when it comes to unity

i only recently learned how to link clothes to avis

i thought u could just drag and drop the item and boom but nope

[limpid cargo]

you factory reset your pc 😭?!?

[willow gulch]

hold up

i missed that part

😭

[ionic rivet]

ive had to do it a few times im not going to miss anything

[limpid cargo]

then how did you get your package files back?

[ionic rivet]

i keep everything logged outside my pc so i dont loose anything importent

the only things im missing is mods for blade and sorcery and bg3

[limpid cargo]

that’s smart. my external drive of 3 years of things broke on me so 🥲

[ionic rivet]

i work on a laptop so i had to super glue the external drive to the bottom of my table

its only got games and unity stuff on it so its not a hindrance if i cant take it with me somewhere

[limpid cargo]

i work on a laptop too , and i used a flash drive for external storage

[tardy torrent]

trying to combine some materials but when I do that it just seems to get set to the same material as the part that its on. Am I missing something?

[limpid cargo]

no, this was happening to me for 2 years before i figured it out

it’s a uv map issue

[tardy torrent]

ah okay thank you!

[limpid cargo]

on the atlas’s texture that you made, just move the uv of the object that got messed up onto the correct spot

[distant nimbus]

ive tried absolutely everything that comes to mind in trying to make these lashes work on my quest avi 💔 im using vrc-mobile-particles-multiply, ive inverted my transparent texture, and im still coming out with this result.

[willow gulch]

it still doesnt do anything sobbbb

[limpid cargo]

maybe try tiling the texture?

it looks like its just really stretched out

[distant nimbus]

agreed, ive got long ones on top, REALLY long ones on the sides, and thick ones on the bottom

i have NO clue what tiling is or how to do it, but google shall be my friend

[limpid cargo]

are they separate for each one? like spearate texture for the stretched ones at the bottom

[limpid cargo]

tiling is just resizing the texture to make it repeat

[distant nimbus]

eyebrows, blush, and bottom and top lashes are all 1 texture

[limpid cargo]

oh... then i dont think tiling will work

because if you tile one area it tiles the whole texture i think

i would just wait for someone else who maybe can help, i have no idea

[distant nimbus]

dang 💔 ok, tysm anyways!

[distant nimbus]

i tiled, and shes PERFECT

i was saying ty, but yes, tyyy

[spare dome]

hi so im back home and in blender now what do i do to get the viewpoint to be where it needs to be

[limpid cargo]

they got me too 😭

but it looks beautiful!!! great!!!

[tardy torrent]

Could you show me on how I'd do that? I'm pretty new to blender lol

[limpid cargo]

select the object, go to edt mode, and select all of the faces of the object that got messed up
then go to "uv editor", and you should see the faces shown in the uv editor. then you can move, resize, etc. the uvs as needed

[placid mica]

Helppp, I keep getting these errors when trying to upload avatars. It only does it some days, though! And then without changing anything it will work like the next day or something, idk whyyyy

[limpid cargo]

Shift+L to select the faces in edit mode may work faster

[placid mica]

Please somebody, how tf do I fix this

[desert elk]

I'd assume you missed some part of the instructions where it asked you for the ownership code stuff
based on the second error, I could be wrong though

[void kettle]

does anyone know how to fix this? her other toggles work but shes stuck in that pose plus gogo doesnt work too

[placid mica]

I didn't miss anything, no
This happens often and I have no clue why.
Sometimes it doesnt even prompt me about the ownership, but sometimes it does

[upbeat hatch]

ive got an issue ive never encountered before, the avatar builds and runs fine in unity but as soon as i upload to vrc this happens

[void kettle]

Did you delete the armture for those parts, because I know if you did it does that 😭

[upbeat hatch]

no, i assumed it was the physbones but not that either

oh i found the issue, the avatar's armature scale is exactly 100x larger than the original, even though its the same physical size

so the animations are just throwing the bones everywhere

[proven crest]

So I made I mistake
I deleted my avatar's current impostors because I wanted to generate new ones with the new version of my avatar, but it says the creation of the impostors failed now, and I'm stuck without impostors anymore

probably not the right place for this but yea

[limpid cargo]

go back into blender and parent the lower arm bones to the upper arms. and parent hands to lower arms.

[mystic marten]

Could you please send me a example im not very good with worded directions

[limpid cargo]

go to blender

actually

nevermind just google how to parent bones in blender

[mystic marten]

Alr ty for the help

[wet oar]

Im trying to texture on my 3d viewport and it only lets me paint on my UV map?

i tried normals, brush settings and everything

nothin

[mild solar]

i’m trying to attempt a head swap, but the head and body are one mesh. i removed the head mesh in blender, but exporting it back to the unity avatar fbx makes the prefab in the scene completely disappear and it’s frustrating.

yeah that’s fine, do you know what could be causing it/how to avoid it making the prefab disappear

i’m not messing with the bones themselves only the fbx body mesh

[agile reef]

my minimum brightnes seems to not be affecting any materials in the dark. I want my skin to be still slightly visible in dark worlds.
The things you see lit up here are emissions.
I am using poiyomii as my shader- am Ii idoing somethinig wrong?

[mild solar]

what do you mean by reference?

i’m just separating head mesh from the rest of the body, deleting it and importing it back into unity

[mental estuary]

Envy, they're a scammer

[mild solar]

ah

[mental estuary]

Don't talk to them

[mild solar]

thanks

[mild solar]

i didn’t unpack the prefab it’s still blue

i also tried all local and fbx all

[snow goblet]

there isnt much you can do besides make a post on the canny, a,,
https://vrchat.canny.io/impostors

in the impostors section, include the avatar id

[limpid cargo]

try the texture paint tab?

[mild solar]

i really don’t want to completely rebuild from the bare naked fbx, if anyone has any tips or ideas i’d really appreciate it

[compact dust]

apply transforms maybe?

idk

[limpid cargo]

locate the fbx in your unity assets folder, right click, “show in explorer”

copy and paste your new fbx into this spot and overwrite

but before that apply transforms for everything

like the other person said

[agile reef]

bumping this- lighting iissue

[limpid cargo]

this is a question that most likely can better be answered in the poiyomi discord server

[wet oar]

we fr..?

i fixed it

[mild solar]

i tried and it didnt work, but after importing again i noticed these import errors, could that be why?

[agile reef]

ill try to join that and see

[wet oar]

turns out it worked when i DIDNT use the texture tab

[supple cloud]

i have the lip sync keys but i have the modifiers on, how do i apply it?

nvm

[mild solar]

tried configure, zoomed out and saw the prefab was all messed up and huge and jumbled together. so i reset pose, applied and it looked normal, hit done and it’s still disappeared im so confused 😭

[limpid cargo]

yeah, the texture paint tab is where you can paint over your textures

it doesn’t work in the normal 3d view

[limpid cargo]

really? that’s interesting! at least you fixed it

[limpid cargo]

um… are you sure you didn’t change any other settings in blender or unity?

[mild solar]

im just rebuilding from the fbx itself

im using pumkin tools, is it possible to use the tool to transfer materials?

[dark jay]

idk what i did wrong but in unity my gun isnt shooting but its playing the audio

[rocky grail]

my avatar is stuck in t pose in game how do i fix that

[wanton cedar]

better question, how do i make it so the rim light isnt so fugly around the lips and nose?

i think it looks fine in blender, so im not sure whats causing those lines

[limpid cargo]

i’ve never used that, but if it has a function for it then sure

[limpid cargo]

check your rig, and that the bones are assigned properly and that it is “Humanoid”

and see if you got any errors while in unity or while uploading

[supple cloud]

it said that the rig doesnt have a animator but it does

[void kettle]

There might be a error in it

Or with it

[limpid cargo]

i think it needs an animator controller

[supple cloud]

how tho

[visual dove]

???

[rocky grail]

how do you fix this?

my hair stuck in front of my head

[compact dust]

weight painting/bone placement

make sure its attached to the right bone in the hierarchy

[limpid cargo]

"you need to add an animator component for the avatar to work"

[limpid cargo]

find the vrchat sdk avatars folder in "assets" on the left, then click through these folders until you get to the fx controller. duplicate it (ctrl+D) and put the duplicated one in the slot

[supple cloud]

i got it fixed thank you.

[limpid cargo]

thats good

[supple cloud]

now the problom

[limpid cargo]

you need to upload pc version before quest

[ripe pond]

Is it posible to create/modify mobile compatable mattereal in unity?

[supple cloud]

thats my question now

how?

[limpid cargo]

you should see selected platforms at the bottom of the sdk before you upload

upload only for windows first

then do quest after

[supple cloud]

second prob before i do that

[somber sequoia]

re-export from Blender? you use the wrong scaling size, probably set "apply scalings" to "FBX All" unless you know it specifically needs to be set to something else.

[somber sequoia]

you can just use an empty new controller for FX too, there's nothing special about FX.

[limpid cargo]

really? i thought that would make one that wasnt specific for vrchat or something

thank you!

[somber sequoia]

nope, not for FX

even for the others, but you probably want some of the basics there so the examples are useful

also you need some masks

[limpid cargo]

i usually use the expression & parameters from the sdk folder

how different is it from just creating one ?

[somber sequoia]

what, menus? I just start from empty new ones for those too

[supple cloud]

someone help me with black texture when changing the shadar

[limpid cargo]

i had no idea lol... ive been making avatars for almost 3 years and have never just created one of anything

[somber sequoia]

huh ok

[somber sequoia]

did you change it to a quest-compatible one?

[limpid cargo]

it might be a transparency issue

[somber sequoia]

that or vertex colors

[limpid cargo]

yeah most likely that

[supple cloud]

i mean yes

[somber sequoia]

yes, then either your transparency is black since that doesn't support transparency, or you have black vertex colors on the mesh you'll need to remove. Blender can, or I think vrc quest tools.

[supple cloud]

i only did 5 colors

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what this is supposed to be?

[supple cloud]

ah there we go

[supple cloud]

texture for him

[somber sequoia]

ah ok

[spark walrus]

so like is there a way for quest user to use custom avis?

[limpid cargo]

yes, by uploading said avatar for quest

[spark walrus]

what if i dont has a pc?

[somber sequoia]

then you can't do it

[spark walrus]

well..shit

[somber sequoia]

(a mac or linux would work, it doesn't have to be Windows)

[spark walrus]

just trying to find a away to get a decent steve avatar

[limpid cargo]

try either an avatar search world in vrc, or asking someone else to upload one for you

[cosmic temple]

is there a way to make a vroid model quest compatible?

[limpid cargo]

yes, ive done it tons of times

[spark walrus]

yeah tried avatar worlds theres 1 ive been using but pixelated HARD

[limpid cargo]

yikes, i get it

[cosmic temple]

how do u do it without the textures becoming really bad

i tried following tutorials but best they got me to is a low quality model

[limpid cargo]

try the particle shader method

or, go into blender and use the knife tool to manually cut out all the transparent parts
you'll have to redo your eye expressions though

[cosmic temple]

The particle shader method?

[limpid cargo]

using vrchat > mobile > particles

[cosmic temple]

ah that shader

[glass condor]

Guys, i purchased an avi off of gumroad, but when i upload it to Build and Test, it shows up as the creator's watermark? What is even happening??? Please help. It's supposed to look like the third picture.

[cosmic temple]

but would it not look somewhat transparent?

[limpid cargo]

try it, and if you dont like it then option 2

quest just has limits

[supple cloud]

now i have the expression but it like snaps into that expression, how do i make it smooth?

[spark walrus]

so if i wanted an upgraded better looking steve avi im gonna have to ask someone?

[somber sequoia]

and likely pay them

[spark walrus]

theirs £200 down the bog

[somber sequoia]

please do not ping me for questions when I'm not already helping you

[supple cloud]

oh

[glass condor]

... anybody? This is super perplexing, the skinned mesh renderer for the avi is on too

[left gull]

if you uploaded just straight from the package w/o edits and theres no upload instructions contact the creator

[limpid cargo]

yep...

[limpid cargo]

its not that drastic. i don't know a single person who costs that much for an avatar

[left gull]

ehh when it comes to fully custom made models thats a pretty normal price

[spark walrus]

i mean i barely got any but anyone willing to help i can fund my best ya know pal