avatar-help

[mossy jacinth]

so many possibilities

[somber sequoia]

You can't use the .SPP files in Blender, but you can do texture painting in Blender with the model and the existing textures.

[tardy walrus]

im new to both blender and like doing the model things

how do i get to like the texture painting in blender/

[somber sequoia]

At the top menu, "Texture Paint"

It's kinda primitive, and some add-ons like ucuPaint and LayerPainter can make it a bit better.

[tardy walrus]

got chu

how do i open the files on blender

or can i use procreate?

[somber sequoia]

what files?

[violet sundial]

okay i think ihave an example of what i want to do

[somber sequoia]

I don't think you can open the .spp in anything but Substance Painter

[violet sundial]

in the files, if i do guester manager on the oroginal un edited models, it has the hoodie and stuff on there thats togglable within the clothing

but on what im currently using the option straight up isnt there

how can i drag/put the hoodie that I want on this one?

[desert elk]

is the menu made with vrcfury or manually?

[violet sundial]

Pretty sure with vrcfury

[desert elk]

ah, so i can't help

sorry

[violet sundial]

not even with switching files or anything? thats what im trying to find out

[silver flame]

16 physbones mainly from davali base

[desert elk]

components?

that's a lot

maybe you can combine some on a common root. Like ears having one component instead of multiple

?

[violet sundial]

ok

i found out how to get the hoodie menu on ther

e

but the issue now is that there is no hoodie to be displayed..?

[somber sequoia]

The menu only drives parameters in the animator. Animations run by the animator are what do the actual things you want done.

[violet sundial]

hoodie selected but no hoodie

[violet sundial]

so whats that mean

i gotta find the hoodie in the animator or smth?

[somber sequoia]

you need to add the new hoodie to the avatar, and then you can toggle it on and off with an animation. Optionally doing this with VRCFury.

[violet sundial]

how though

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what your project currently looks like so all I could do is suggest tutorial videos

[violet sundial]

No tut videos on my base, already looked

[somber sequoia]

base is not relevant really

[violet sundial]

i could stream it to you

that would really help me

[somber sequoia]

again, that's not a thing I do

[proper storm]

Can you make audio sources local only?

Menu sfx

[night ember]

Islocal parameter

[violet sundial]

these?

[proper storm]

(how would I add that though?)

Just giving me the anwser isnt enough

[night ember]

You just add it as a parameter condition for the toggle?

[somber sequoia]

you use the parameter isLocal in your animation layer to determine if the object is enabled or not.

[formal fulcrum]

so how would you typically do this? Im using a component for each ear. Do you suggest the root physbone transform set to the 'head', then ignore any transform besides the ears? What about each ear needing a different (mirrored) orientation?

[proper storm]

Hm, where and how would I add it? I just use this in the node after its waiting state

[somber sequoia]

It's not in here, it's a parameter you can add to your animator and use in a transition between states. If that does not make sense, find a tutorial video about the basics of working in the animator.

[desert elk]

it will work with the head

[somber sequoia]

Basically you want "if IsLocal is true, then turn on"

[desert elk]

i do that to mine

and they mirror just fine

physbones are based on your bones so as long as they're the same (but mirrored obv) on both ears the physbones will be the same

[proper storm]

Well, no, I know how it works, but would that play the audio source only for me?

[sleek finch]

my unity refuses to switch to android,

ive tried to switch a couple times but it just wont let me change

[proper storm]

I mean client side only audio

[desert elk]

do you have android build support installed?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, because that would only run the animation state with the audio player when IsLocal is true. It's only true for you, the wearer of the avatar.

[desert elk]

check the build suppport settings

[sleek finch]

what

[desert elk]

you need to have android build support if you want to upload for quest

[proper storm]

So IsLocal is something I just add to my parameters and layer and it should work?

[sleek finch]

idk

[desert elk]

let me get a screenshot

[somber sequoia]

You can add and use any of these: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/

[somber sequoia]

https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/setting-up-unity-for-creating-quest-content

[desert elk]

file > build settings

[somber sequoia]

(I know it says world but it's the same for avatars)

[desert elk]

and check if you have android installed

crtl + shift + b is the shortcut

[proper storm]

Yeah i see it,

[somber sequoia]

huh I have never seen this menu!

[proper storm]

I have MACS

It helps with that stuff

[formal fulcrum]

hmm, they mirror in pitch nicely, but not yaw, so I couldnt use a single component and match my old angle limit setup. Image shows it, exaggerated.

[proper storm]

(that stuff that should be there by default)

[digital cairn]

Is there a way to make an animation (specifically an emote) play through and then play in reverse, and just loop that pattern?

[balmy barn]

-1 speed , ive used it a few times on a afk that sends av falling to ground, -1 it goes back up

[desert elk]

i'm not sure, i don't work with avatars ike that. Idk what could be happening.
Maybe they're not the same roll in blender? or something like that

[formal fulcrum]

very possibly, maybe the bones themselves could be altered to get the axis working better, but idk that part well

[somber sequoia]

I think you'd have to animate the position in the animation backwards, probably I'd try to just make a reversed clip instead.

oh negative speed, nice.

how obvious

[digital cairn]

How do I change the speed?

[desert elk]

you're using the wrong unity version

vrchat is on 2022.3.22f1 now

[sleek finch]

oh

[proper storm]

I mean that works, but, can i just not sync the parameter

[balmy barn]

blender, select bones and rotate them toward 0.0.0 so they all point same way right now its all over

[somber sequoia]

Yes, you can also do that if this is driven by just one parameter.

[balmy barn]

same animation

multiplier can be messed with to speed/slow things down, but i rarely touch that

[proper storm]

Im just using one parameter, yes SettingMenuPress, when pressed it just played a audio source

[somber sequoia]

sure, don't sync it

[violet sundial]

ok so I can change the hoodie to be there

the menu and stuff will be there but

when I try and toggle it the hoodie just isnt there, is this a texture issue or something?

[somber sequoia]

did you add the new hoodie to the avatar?

[violet sundial]

No, this is the one that came with the base

[somber sequoia]

oh, so you're just testing the original one?

[violet sundial]

yes

[digital cairn]

Okay I set that up. What do I put for the conditions on the transitions?

[balmy barn]

emote? just exit it whenever its not in use (not equal)

[proper storm]

Weird, audio play in animator not playing audio?

[digital cairn]

Okay, so when I toggle the emote, it'll loop between the two speeds just like that?

[balmy barn]

this plays entire animation length before going to next state

[digital cairn]

Ohh okay

[balmy barn]

ping<>pong

[violet sundial]

Hey yall, how can I take this out so i can work on it as if it was its own unity file already?

the one selected,

so it can turn into this

[somber sequoia]

you could save a copy of that scene, then just delete anything you don't want.

[violet sundial]

the scene as in?

[somber sequoia]

that whole thing you are looking at is a scene, and the file you mention, is a scene file

[violet sundial]

alright

[somber sequoia]

file -> save as

[violet sundial]

is it possible I can make a copy instead with how it looks? I dont wanna delete everything then fuck up the file forever

[somber sequoia]

that saves a scene

right - make a new file and then screw that one up, keeping the original intact.

[violet sundial]

like this?

[somber sequoia]

if that's the result you're looking for...

[violet sundial]

noot really..

lemme open the other one

[somber sequoia]

maybe I misunderstood

[violet sundial]

oh you know what

nevermind it is like that

oaky nevermind it didnt work again

shit

so like right here

[dark saddle]

Question about the new SDK update
I notice here that I can build for multiple platforms. I have 2 versions of my avatar (2 prefabs) one for Android and one for PC

[violet sundial]

I created a new planebut I cant like

import the new thing I want to do

[dark saddle]

How do I tell the SDK what avatars/prefabs/scenes are for what platforms?

[desert elk]

you don't

you do two uploads

that option is only useful if you're using the same exact avatar for both pc and quest

[dreamy grail]

drag the root prefab into your project (files section), then make a new scene and insert that prefab

[violet sundial]

got it i think

[dark saddle]

well thats shit

[desert elk]

yeah

kinda useless, only helpful for android/ios tbh

or maybe png avatars

[dark saddle]

I have 2 scenes for my worlds too

1 scene for quest, the other scene for PC

I fail to understand how this logic wasn't being thought of when even adding the feature.

[desert elk]

🤷‍♂️

[dark saddle]

It isn't hard for them to switch scenes during upload depending on the platform

Ill ask the VRCFury discord about it

Maybe they found a way to do it

[desert elk]

what does fury have to do do with it

?

this is an official vrchat sdk feature, not vrcfury

[dark saddle]

VRCFury is a very nice tool that does a lot of Non-destructive changes during upload

VRCFury could add a component that auto switches the scenes depending on the platform.

The same way how it watches the VRChat SDK to see if its building or not.

It also fixes a few annoying things with the SDK, very minor but still annoying

Must have tool honestly.

[desert elk]

I tried using vrcfury but didn't really like it

[desert elk]

what annoying things does it fix?

cause I only knew of it as an easy toggle maker

[dark saddle]

Well the SDK adds this weird XR folder for some reason

VRCFury fixes this and moves it to the packages path instead.

The SDK has some weird login issues (like freezing during 2fa), VRCFury also fixes this

[desert elk]

I see, I don't mind it as much to get a whole asset for it. And I never had any log in issues

it never froze for me

[night ember]

I kinda just logged in and that was that?

[dark saddle]

it did for me. Really annoying because I would spam it until it worked and I would log myself out by accident and Id need to do it all over again.

The page just failed to refresh correctly.

[desert elk]

yeah, same here

[night ember]

I never had that happen

[dark saddle]

VRCFury sorta just forced it to refresh, and once the 2fa code is entered i dont need to press anything it just finished.

[dark saddle]

Good job

[desert elk]

I don't need to press anything either and I don't use fury @_@

weird

[night ember]

I honestly found fury to make the process longer and needlessly complicated for what spending an extra few seconds doing manually

[desert elk]

same here

especially the waiting for it to compile everything every time I was switching to play mode

[dark saddle]

Then do it manually. I have the opposite effect, it saves me a lot of time and improves my workflow between platforms.

I dont depend on it for example, I still do everything manually. But, I use the tool to make managing prefabs better

[night ember]

Sitting there waiting for the "nondestructive" changes to apply every single time I make a minor change

[desert elk]

yeahh

[night ember]

Also witnessing people have an aneurysm when they cant figure out where something is only to find out hours later that fury was fucking with it "nondestructively"

[desert elk]

yup

I've had that happen to me before

[somber sequoia]

So far I only use Fury to add the face tracking stuff.

[desert elk]

ah I've never added face tracking but I can see how that would be helpful

that must be a lot of stuff to add

[night ember]

Blendshapes, animator shit

[desert elk]

I figured

[somber sequoia]

yeah it's a bunch of animation layers

I could combine it, but eh.... not a whole lot of point in putting in that work

[digital cairn]

Would you happen to know how to replicate this using the VRCFury Toggle component?

[somber sequoia]

that kinda seems more complicated

[desert elk]

yeah, I doubt vrcf thought of that

[night ember]

Significantly more complicated

Fury is just basic toggles

[desert elk]

vrcf is more for on/off, colour switch

[somber sequoia]

like I don't know what you'd gain. if you want to have a enable/disable toggle, sure, just use whatever variable the Fury toggle sets.

[proper storm]

what issues is it forcing me to fix?

literally nothing wrong

[somber sequoia]

that scrolls, of course.

[desert elk]

too many physbones - all will be deleted on upload

and yeah, it scrolls

[night ember]

Switch between platforms via build settings or reopen the project so its the pc limit

[desert elk]

oh yeha

yeah

I just noticed

[night ember]

You are also mixing write defaults

[desert elk]

you should restart cause it got stuck on quest limits

[digital cairn]

I see

[dark saddle]

Its called "build testing"

[night ember]

Set it either all on or off

[proper storm]

I know, it was nothing much

[dark saddle]

you can build an editor test copy

[desert elk]

restart unity first

so you have pc limits

[night ember]

Thats not what I meant in the slightest

[desert elk]

yeah

not at all

[digital cairn]

Can an emote use anything as the parameter, or does it have to be VRCEmote?

[somber sequoia]

An animation layer can use whatever parameters you want

[night zenith]

how do i get avatar files that i can import into blender?

[night ember]

Anything but youd need to set up what vrcemote does

[proper storm]

huh yeah it works

dumb jank

[desert elk]

generally you import an fbx (it should be somewhere in the assets)

[somber sequoia]

It just happens that VRCEmote is a semi-standard

[night ember]

Its just the fbx in scene
Or if you mean in game you dont

[dark saddle]

You said:

Also witnessing people have an aneurysm when they cant figure out where something is only to find out hours later that fury was fucking with it "nondestructively"
and my response was to build an editor test copy. Basically allows you to dig into all the changes so you know whats going on

[somber sequoia]

also what's an "emote" here 🙂

[digital cairn]

So make it an int parameter?

[night ember]

Again not what I meant in the slightest

[somber sequoia]

what's your actual goal

[night ember]

No? The entire thing in the action layer

[digital cairn]

I wanna add this dance animation onto an avatar. The animation goes through a few different poses in order, and when it loops, it snaps back to its starting pose to do it again. I want to make it so that it plays the animation to the end, then plays it in reverse, and it just keeps playing it forward and backwards until I toggle it off

[somber sequoia]

Cool, so you can do that in the Action layer.

[digital cairn]

Oh okay

[somber sequoia]

you don't really need any specific parameter like VRCEmote for that, but sure, you can use it.

[violet sundial]

Yall, is there a way I can make it so I can toggle 2 things at once?

Hairs, for example

[night ember]

just have it have an empty condition transition between them with an exit time of 1 then have a transition out on both of them that is just parameter not equal whatever

[heavy zephyr]

Either have an animation do that OR if you already have two layers toggling those 2 things independently, use a parameter driver to set their respective parameters to the correct value when reaching a state.

[violet sundial]

i dont know what half of that means sorry

i also have 1 more tiny but improtant issue and its th eye

I got everything down now, but the eye texture wont change and im nots ure what to do

[heavy zephyr]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#avatar-parameter-driver

[digital cairn]

Well I have everything set up on the Action layer, but the animation won't play when I toggle it on

[night ember]

well did you set it up correctly

[digital cairn]

I have the weight set to 1

[somber sequoia]

You're doing the Animator Tracking Control stuff too, right?

[digital cairn]

And the transitions and stuff set up properly

[digital cairn]

No, I don't think so?

[somber sequoia]

well that's not going to work then

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#animator-tracking-control

You have to disable IK if you want to run a full-body animation

(or any time you want to animate a thing that's normally run by IK)

[digital cairn]

Ah okay. Where do I find the tracking control?

[somber sequoia]

did you look at the link I just posted?

[digital cairn]

If it's an SDK component, I don't think I have it.

[somber sequoia]

you do, you add it to an animation state

not sure what you're trying to do

[digital cairn]

Okay I found it

So you said to disable IK?

[somber sequoia]

the answer to that question is in that link I just provided

[digital cairn]

So set everything to No Change?

[fathom fossil]

im making a gumball avatar how do i make a toggle that enables the oval eyes?

[somber sequoia]

(in the first paragraph even)

[digital cairn]

I know I just wanna make sure I understood correctly

[somber sequoia]

What exactly do you think "no change" would do then?

[digital cairn]

Like I said I just wanted to make sure

I'm autistic 🤷‍♀️

[fathom fossil]

same

[digital cairn]

Either way it's still not playing the toggle

[worldly whale]

how do i make this hue shift work? i have had problems the past few days with this. did something update?

i have it wont save any of the color shifts in the animater

[night ember]

you dont animate the material

you animate it from the actual avatar

[digital cairn]

I set the layer weight to 1, I triple checked that the parameters are the exact same everywhere, and I have write defaults off

[somber sequoia]

right click the property you want to animate and select "animated while locked". But also do what Diven says too.

[compact dust]

cant use "im autistic" as an excuse for not understanding smth

[somber sequoia]

WD off? Interesting.

[night ember]

poi does this automatically when you animate it

[somber sequoia]

it's true

[worldly whale]

huh? im trying to make a hue shifter

what do you mean from the actual avatar?

[digital cairn]

I mean, autism can make things harder to understand sooo

[worldly whale]

OH

I GOT IT

[somber sequoia]

You have to animate via the material on the avatar, rather than just select the material in the project.

oh good 🙂

[night ember]

you dont animate by clicking the material
you animate it directly from the avatar

[compact dust]

yeah but it can also make things easier to understand, therefore not an excuse

[worldly whale]

i didnt realize i had to

[worldly whale]

that doesnt exactly narrow it down but i did firgure it out

[digital cairn]

I think it depends on the person and the subject

[compact dust]

i didnt say you specifically

[fathom fossil]

i already said this but im making a gumball avatar so how do i make an oval eyes toggle

[compact dust]

or anybody in particular

[compact dust]

toggle that turns off the normal ones, changes to the oval ones

[somber sequoia]

what is an oval eyes toggle?

ah, parts swap

[fathom fossil]

like when gumballs eyes become ovals like this

fuck i meant ovals

[fathom fossil]

how

[somber sequoia]

I guess that ^ is a gumball?

[compact dust]

tutorial, vrcf or a normal setup

[fathom fossil]

i have fury installed

[night ember]

just make a blendshape that stretches the eyes vertically?

[compact dust]

yeah character from cartoon network show i believe

[fathom fossil]

i guess

[somber sequoia]

I'd probably make a shape key in blender... yeah what Diven said.

[compact dust]

make a vrcf toggle component and set the two items in it

look up a vrcf toggle tut

[digital cairn]

My emote still isn't working. I'm not sure what else to check.

[somber sequoia]

layer masking?

[fathom fossil]

i think i would need to make the pupils apart of the texture for that

[digital cairn]

Just says none

[night ember]

I mean do you want eye balls or do you want to make the eyes hollow then have a floating pupil?

[fathom fossil]

i think eyeballs but idk

[somber sequoia]

have you watched a tutorial about how to do this at all? You'll probably want a mask in that animator. And also do what's in the second paragraph here:
https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/playable-layers#action

[fathom fossil]

this is how i made the thing so

[night ember]

thats still not going to translate well to 3d movement

[fathom fossil]

i was thinking so it kinda looked like for other people that you were talking to gumball so i wanted to make it look kinda 2d but 3d

[sleek finch]

how would i get lip sync to work

[somber sequoia]

put in a face mesh which has visemes

that one does not seem to

[desert elk]

if you don't have visemes you need to make them in blender

[sleek finch]

is that hard?

[digital cairn]

It's been a long ass time since I've added emotes to an avatar

[compact dust]

shaping the mouth to make syllables isnt it?

[compact dust]

then why havent you watched a tutorial

[desert elk]

you make visemes with blendshapes/shapekeys

Google how to make them

[digital cairn]

Because I thought I remembered how, but I guess updates and stuff changed how its done

[desert elk]

no. make 3: A, O, Ch. And generate the rest with cats plugin

Google a tutorial for blendshapes

[compact dust]

a o ch

[chilly solar]

so i uploaded an avatar last night and needed to fix some weight painting problems, is there any way to just sort of update the model in unity instead of having to import and redo everything i did last night? i dont wanna have to redo my physbones and some stuff all over again just for some weight painting stuff

[desert elk]

yes, that's what cats uses

[compact dust]

no, just change the weight painting in blender and it will update

[desert elk]

if you didn't unpack the prefab you can override the fbx

[compact dust]

unles its major changes it should be fine?

[chilly solar]

how do i do this

[chilly solar]

wait is that a thing?

[somber sequoia]

save the file over the existing one

[compact dust]

anything that changes should auuto update i believe

when you save it ^

use the same name tho in the same file

folder

[desert elk]

I open the assets in an explorer and drag the new FBX in and select the "override option"

in the explorer window

[somber sequoia]

I just do file -> export -> export FBX and select the old file

[compact dust]

sometimes unity is like spaghetti, everything is connected but sometimes its in a pile

that metaphor didnt come out as good as i wanted it

[somber sequoia]

haha

[chilly solar]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-noted-glorp-noted-glorp-noting-this-down-alien-cat-gif-11958671377507601335

oh

:<

[compact dust]

glorp!

[chilly solar]

wait i exported the fixed avatar and saved it over the old one, but how to i replace the model in unity

[chilly solar]

i dont understand how to do this

[somber sequoia]

Unless you unpacked your avatar prefab, you shouldn't have to do anything else.

[chilly solar]

but i dragged it into my assets and its just here along with the old one

[somber sequoia]

oh so you did not just overwrite the file.

I guess do what Eli said? not sure, I never do that.

[chilly solar]

i did when i exported it i saved it with the same name and it was like grrr this is already here i was like i dont care this is what i want

unless that doesnt count

[pine elm]

did you save over the file that unity is using? when you import a package (if i got this right) it makes a copy of it, so if you originally saved it say in "blender folder" and then dragged that fbx into unity
the file u wanna override is now inside of the project folder in unity

[chilly solar]

oh i see that makes sense

okay so i opened the old avi in the explorer and dragged the new one onto it and replaced it

is that what im meant to do?

[pine elm]

yes i believe so (i really hope im right here cause im stil lfairly new to avi making myself)

[chilly solar]

okay so im gonna go test it and see if it worked and let you know

[pine elm]

i pray

[chilly solar]

okay it worked thank you :D

[pine elm]

in the meantime can someone help me fix this
situation: a generic model made to be a sign with no bones gets turned into a minecraft cube when uploaded into vrchat. it has an empty animator slapped on since it demanded blood sacrifice or it wouldnt upload
anyonegot an idea why this could be happening? i need to get it fixed before the weekend if possible
edit: oh also it goes into the floor and on its back

[somber sequoia]

not sure I can tell what that's doing, though maybe it looks like it has a flipped face?

[balmy barn]

use a empty skeleton (put mesh under it) or use a empty game object as root , to avoid it faceplanting (3rd one would be set origin in blender)

[pine elm]

o7 ill dig around

[desert elk]

yes, that's what you should do

which is what I tried to explain

[chilly solar]

i kinda understood but the extra detail from the other person made me understand enough to be able to do it

[desert elk]

that's good

[pine elm]

seems all normals are facing outwards correctly darn

[worldly whale]

how do i make a radial puppet without this happening? its honestly really annoying

[night ember]

disable loop time

[worldly whale]

oh ok

i didnt know that was the cause

but thanks

uh wait

i dont think that worked

oh wait

hold up

nvm

[pine elm]

just to double check but is the origin not correct here?

oh, well i thought maybe theres an open face somehwere so i selected it completely and merged by distance, re-exported to unity and now its on its butt in there haha ok some progress?

AH

[balmy barn]

bottom of it (yellow dot)

[pine elm]

for some reason its scale is coming in not at all 1's lol

[pine elm]

oooohhhh i see!

[uncut lotus]

Yo, would anyone who knows about making Avatars be willing to help out with a few problems Im running into?

One problem is the jacket. The second I gave it its material, it changed to that pink color. And when I added the texture, it acted as though the pink color was meant to overlay it

Two, for some reason, the 2 chickens at his hands are acting sorta as though backface culling I belive its called, is on. It makes you look though the model, and stuff, but its weird since its not doing it to the chicke on the top of his head, and they were copy and pasted from eachother

I turned on the Unity Addons
-VRCFury
-VRCQuestTool
-GestureManager

I uploaded the same avitar with less stuff before and it worked, mostly fine, and this model was supposed to be the fix, +more, yet Im running itno these issues

Ima also mention, this would litterally be like, my second avitar Ive made and upload. Like, I uploaded the first one yesterday, or the day before. Im SUPER new to this

[pine elm]

the chickens might have inverted normals iirc cause i had the same issue duplicating items
click on this button in blender and check if the mesh turns blue or if its red

if it is red hit Alt + N while in edit mode (top right) and select flip, that should fix it iirc

[uncut lotus]

Thanks sm, that was the issue with the chickens

I flipped them, and learned a few other pieaces had the same issues

[pine elm]

ayeeeeee good glad it was a simple fix

[uncut lotus]

Ya, also

[pine elm]

tried both but neither worked sadly

[uncut lotus]

I got the Robust Weight Transfer addon for blender, and used that for the jacket. Is there a chance thats why thats a problem?

[pine elm]

as in im dumb and dont understand haha

[pine elm]

uhhhh no the weight transfer shouldnt mess up texture stuff at least its yet to do it to me, i know it goes pink when a texture is broken or missing, maybe remake the material and slap that on and check? 1 sec-

[uncut lotus]

I use the same texture for a few other items that doesn't go through the same thing

[pine elm]

right click in the assets area below and create a new material- actually i see you dont have ashader imported id suggest poiyomi that might be the problem

[uncut lotus]

Im trying to make it quest compatable

Is there a way I could just add the jacket later?

[pine elm]

yeah u can add the jacket later! you can delete it off the model or move it to another empty container to hold it til ur ready to try again

[uncut lotus]

Thank god 😩

[uncut lotus]

Wait, I can do it in Unity?

Lets say the problem is something that has to be solved in blender. Would I still be able to add it back later?

My biggest worry tbh-

[pine elm]

yeah u can add it in later but id suggest as it own object like uh when exported outta blender have it on its own with the bones itt needs

[uncut lotus]

could I just copy the bones from the model its being affected by?

[pine elm]

yeye and then youd delete any left over bones that wouldnt be affectingthe jacket like hands legs etc

but be warned this will make the avi more heavy is you bring in loads of skeletons on clothing so use sparingly if u can

[uncut lotus]

Thanks. From what I can tell, this will be the only one that may need it.

Or I could just do what you were saying, and add it with the rest in Unity, try and see if it can be fixed there, and if it cant, Ill go to blender

Thanks a bunch for your help! Probably just saved me from a VERY stressful night

[pine elm]

yeah ifs finnicky learning avi stuff wish al;l the info was in one place haha but ye best of luck u dont run into more issues !

[uncut lotus]

Um....so like...I was having this issue before but figured Id get it working...but I couldnt.

I was watching a tutorial, where they had the eyes set to either 25, or -25, for up, down, left, right, and it FRL looked good when I used my old model. NOW for some reason, its at like, a resting position of some sort, where the eyes are already down?

This what its supposed to look like

Just one value, and it looks down in a corner?

[proper storm]

I have a anim controlled by a contact and parameter and whenever I get the parameter true, it turns off armature, clothes, body, etc, I disappear when people send the contact, but I dont come back. I dont know why, the resting/waiting state is with everything on

I synced the parameter in the expressions and stuff

(still didnt fix it)

it works half the time and then breaks the other half

I have no idea why, nor people more experienced than me know why weirdly, i thought it was a WD problem so I went off, on, neither worked

Works on client 100% of the time, but on server end only 50% of the time when it comes to syncing

Seems like a vrc issue and possibly could be

Everything is synced

[raven sun]

tried to make a toggle where a prop would be held by a different part, so I just made 2 animation keys where the gun is in default state and in the new state (simply moved it in the viewport until it looked right), and then went through all the normal motions for making a toggle. The toggle never works and I found this in the fx layer. I honestly forgot i had vrcfury, I only use it for gogoloco.

[proper storm]

did you check the animation and make sure its pathed correctly?

[raven sun]

how do i do that

[proper storm]

if you check the anims in your fx layer it will be yellow

fx layer then check animations

[raven sun]

you mean this?

[proper storm]

from here

[raven sun]

Well I assume if it were missing the text would be yellow

Also the animation does occure in play mode if I tick the box for the parameter in the animator, but the toggle does nothing

like im testing it with gesture manager and it has no effect

the parameter is named the same thing in the parameters, same capitalization as in the Animator, the same bool type, and the toggle in the menu has that correct parameter assigned, but when testing it just does nothing

[night ember]

what are you even animating

[quasi trail]

I have an avatar toggle issue, my avatar has this TV, and I want to make it so it plays a gif of tv static before switching to the actual image that the toggle is meant for, in the animation for it, there are 2 different objects, one with the tv static gif on it, and one with the main image, I have it set up so that it first turns on the tv static, and then turns the tv static image off and then immediately turns on the object with the main image, the problem is that the tv static gif image/object doesn't turn off and the main image never turns on, which makes no sense since it does it in unity playtest.

[raven sun]

basically the avatar has a gun prop that also has an inbuilt umbrella so i wanted to have a toggle for holding it like an umbrelly

and heres a consol error

[compact dust]

changing the mesh shape in blender doesnt change the texture png at all does it

[somber sequoia]

unless you made a mess of the UV map, probably not?

[compact dust]

so sculpting it should also change the texture

erm

not change the texture*

[somber sequoia]

depends on if it changes topology or not

[compact dust]

i kinda hope the texture doesnt get messed up for these clothes

[frail temple]

My avatar has 36 material slots, how do i bring this down?

[compact dust]

combine materials/meshes

idk

[frail temple]

I combined the meshes, it still has 36 material slots

[compact dust]

then combine the materials to match

[somber sequoia]

^

[compact dust]

speculation

[somber sequoia]

bake or atlas textures

[compact dust]

yeah i know what should be done but nothing abt how to :D

kazin does tho

[somber sequoia]

my usual avatar goal is one texture for the body and one texture for the outfit. sometimes it's a hard goal 🙂

[compact dust]

especially if you've got a bunch of parts for clothing or smt

[frail temple]

About that...

[compact dust]

what the skibidi

[frail temple]

PS1 3d model has these textures made like this for some reasonm

[compact dust]

ermm did you rip the model

[frail temple]

i didn't make the model, simply ported it into blender and rigged/weight painted it

[compact dust]

hrm

[frail temple]

some guy on skecthfab ripped it from MGS1

[somber sequoia]

what about this am I looking at?

[compact dust]

i presume the like 36 textures
idk how that still works if they're supposed to be all one mesh

if its 1 mesh it shouldnt use multiple textures if im not mistaken?

[frail temple]

36 material slots, no idea how to atlas it, followed a tutorial but i get this instead

[somber sequoia]

there's a bunch of textures in the project but so what?

[somber sequoia]

well that's ugly 🙂

[compact dust]

chaos

[somber sequoia]

UV un/re-mapping might be my least favorite thing to do in Blender

[compact dust]

idk how to do that, me too

[frail temple]

is it even worse than weight painting low poly

[somber sequoia]

yes

[compact dust]

i hate weight painting

ive yet to watch a tutorial

[frail temple]

give me a video and i'll try to follow it

[somber sequoia]

weight painting and retopo are the other two that make up the top 3 though 🙂

[compact dust]

my top 3 are: waiting for weight painting to load, undoing weight painting, and weight painting

[somber sequoia]

waiting? Huh.

[frail temple]

You got a tutorial that can fix this mess?

[compact dust]

on rlly high vertices ones like some ive painted it takes a sec to load

math or wtv

[somber sequoia]

probably you could just use Material Combiner

[somber sequoia]

my computer is kinda bolshy so maybe I haven't had that happen

[compact dust]

bolshy?

[somber sequoia]

haha maybe that's not quite the right word. "strong/angry" is what I meant, iirc it's from Russian.

[compact dust]

angry computer 👍

[somber sequoia]

it's a 7950x3D, it's angry 🙂

[compact dust]

You do not compute on computer
Computer computes you

[frail temple]

Since this is a ps1 avatar, what should the pixel size be?

[somber sequoia]

I have never used this tool, I only know that it exists and does this thing

[compact dust]

i love switching back and forth from blender to unity and accidentally using blender cam controls
then the avi dissapears into the distance

[somber sequoia]

ugh. I do that and also Substance Painter.

[compact dust]

substance painter? 🥺

are you gatekeeping useful tools

[somber sequoia]

use Armor Paint, it's cheap or free

[compact dust]

what the hek is that 😭

[somber sequoia]

I used Substance today and halfway through I was like damn, should have done this in ArmorPaint to give it a serious try

[compact dust]

ive no clue what either are

[somber sequoia]

standalone SP-like 3D painting tool that's free if you compile it yourself but like $10 if you don't

[compact dust]

i assume its for texturing 3d models

[somber sequoia]

yes

it's for making textures in both 2D and 3D space at the same time

has a really nice node-based system for making materials, kinda like Blender does

[compact dust]

oo\

[somber sequoia]

I have a lot of substance projects and I know the workflow but I really want to do the next thing in armor paint

[compact dust]

is there any huge difference

[somber sequoia]

interface for sure

but beyond that, layer-based editor for textures

so not really

oh and like $110

[winter edge]

How would you guys organize your menus if you have both modular avatar and vrcfury prefabs installed on your avatar?

[compact dust]

i'd organize them by what they do 👍

[winter edge]

Like how do you control their positioning

[compact dust]

well for vrcf

you just click the options menu or wtv in the toggle component and change the menu path

and then modular you click the toggle object in your hierarchy and change the menu path wherever it is in the component

i think

[frail temple]

@somber sequoia

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure why you are sharing this with me?

[compact dust]

dont ping someone if they arent actively helping or know what the problem is

[frail temple]

MatCombiner doesn't work

[somber sequoia]

right but I already said that I have never used it - why would you think that I could help with error messages?

[reef jewel]

does anyone know how to to limit bone dynamics i went through safety but the perfomance options arent there? do i need to buy vrchat+

[somber sequoia]

(possibly make sure your have a supported blender version)

[compact dust]

bald.

[timber wharf]

huh. vrc+ doesnt grant you any benefits regarding avatars, so you probly want to post some pics or explain in more detail what you see where

[reef jewel]

oh well i just wanna shut off these stupid boob physics but idk how to i tried looking it up but all i foud were some people saying limit bone dynamics but thats no longer an option

any ideas?

[compact dust]

is it an avi you own?

[reef jewel]

yeah i bought it but no idea how to work anything except changing textures ;-;

i just started vrchat recently in the past two days

[compact dust]

you need to find the physbone component that's controlling the physics

look up a tutorial for physbones

[reef jewel]

i did its really confusing ;-;

[compact dust]

but it'd most likely be in the chest hierarchy or a physbone object

[timber wharf]

search hierarchy anywhere near the chest bone ie boobs one, one of them have physbone component , delete it, youre good to go with rock solid boobs

[somber sequoia]

a really easy and maybe not ideal way, once you have found the physbone component itself, is to simply increase the "Immobile" value.

[reef jewel]

one second let me take a screenshot do i delete the right one

[somber sequoia]

'cause rock solid isn't ideal but SO so so many avatars come with unrealistically floppy appendages.

[compact dust]

he speaks from experience

[somber sequoia]

much of it is mere observation

in the "wow... that's.... okay yeah, that was a choice," sort of way.

[reef jewel]

its opening up but rock solid is literally what i want these new jiggle physics are so weird😭

[somber sequoia]

okay cool, then yeah, you can just delete or disable the component

[reef jewel]

any idea what i should press?

[compact dust]

ok so apparently the "shrinkwrap" modifier does not work as i was hoping

[timber wharf]

@reef jewel i see two same pics

so elaborate

[somber sequoia]

it's sometimes great. Other times not as great as you'd want.

[compact dust]

yeah in this case it's just moving the whole thing, not actually deforming at all

[reef jewel]

so im trying to delete the jiggle physics on the boobs but i have no idea what i should delete so i sent a picture of the options

[compact dust]

unless i just did it wrong

[reef jewel]

in both pics is a few different lists of stuff on the hierarchy side

[compact dust]

on the "Breast R" & "Breast L" (or one of the children) there should be a component on the right named "physbones" or smt like that

either press the checkmark on the top left of that component or delete it

[reef jewel]

is this what youre talking about?

[timber wharf]

@reef jewelin both pics you didnt select any bone containing physbone as i said before, chest or, more likely, some of its children

[compact dust]

👍

[reef jewel]

its children?

[timber wharf]

uh

if its under some object in hierarchy, its child

[reef jewel]

oh sorry i didnt know it was called that, but when i pressed its children it just says add component do i leave it alone and also i unchecked the vrc script box does that make it rock solid now?

[compact dust]

@reef jewel here

[timber wharf]

if it has that object anywhere inside, its parent

[somber sequoia]

I'd have to see but don't forget that you need a bunch of polys for this to work, you can't deform a single face well 🙂

[compact dust]

im very spiratic

[compact dust]

yeah, first time ive used it so im testin stuff out

[timber wharf]

@reef jewel just click both boobs - header - remove component

on physbone

[reef jewel]

my bad

[compact dust]

dumb bot

let the people speak!

[reef jewel]

i moved it up and down it worked! nothing moved hold on let me upload it and check

its uploading i will let you know if it worked praying it does

[compact dust]

if it works in unity it should work in game

should.

[reef jewel]

its uploaded loading vr to check😭 🙏

[compact dust]

if it works
you're officially a physbone pro

[frail temple]

How hard is it to fix this manually with substance painter?

[reef jewel]

okay so one thing didnt work BUT BUT big thing it says save changes or discard on unity

[frail temple]

Matcombiner isn't working, all the textures are different in sizes, 8x32, 8x16 etc

[reef jewel]

i pressed it but it stayed it was only until after it published i pressed save chnages it went away

[somber sequoia]

impossible - you'd need to redo the UV maps in Blender (or similar)

[compact dust]

orrr

wrong response

[somber sequoia]

manual atlasing isn't too bad though if you want to go that way

[compact dust]

or you could also completely repaint it as 1 mat :D

[somber sequoia]

yep

[compact dust]

what i'd do

[frail temple]

Which option is the best to go with for a complete texture newbie?

[reef jewel]

re publishing to check

[somber sequoia]

I often will make a new UV map then bake my existing materials into that, then take that into substance and touch up as needed.

[compact dust]

did you disable it in play mode or not

dangit

wrong reply

[somber sequoia]

but I wouldn't really suggest any one way as the best

[compact dust]

if you disabled it while in play mode it wont save it

so itll still be on

[reef jewel]

so restart vrchat?

[frail temple]

Alright, you got a video for any of those methods? I have no idea what to type in YouTube for what you guys said

I am a masochist for trying to make this avatar work

[compact dust]

nono

i meant unity

anything changed in play mode on unity does not save

[somber sequoia]

I don't really keep a list of links like this, but if you search for some combination of "blender bake textures" maybe you'll find something? I actually use a (non-free) add-on called SimpleBake for this, it drastically cuts down on the time it takes

[compact dust]

so if you're in play mode, turn smt off, then upload, it never actually turned off in the saved version

[reef jewel]

how..do you turn off playmode wheres that at?

[somber sequoia]

ah I remember using this video at some point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE7FedDW2AI

[somber sequoia]

click play again

[compact dust]

its that top button you use to simulate the physics

erm

to be able to move the avi with your physbones enabled

its a little play button

[reef jewel]

i pressed the play button its loading something

[compact dust]

check if your physbones are activated or not

[somber sequoia]

it'll probably run any processing scripts like vrc fury

[compact dust]

and make sure they're the ones in the "boob R/L" parent, and that none of the armature pieces inside have other physbone components

[reef jewel]

this is what i saw

[somber sequoia]

yep, VRC Fury pre-build processing. It's normal

[compact dust]

sometimes takes a while

[reef jewel]

so after that the boob r and l still have unchecked vrc script

and the children have no components

[compact dust]

i do not believe that the shrinkwrap constraint should do this

so silly

[reef jewel]

and i pressed the play button a few times so it should be good to load up now?

[compact dust]

are all of the physbones disabled in the chest hierarchy?

[reef jewel]

side note this is one of the children should i unccheck this box

uhhh lemme make a video so u can see and verify

[compact dust]

no leave that

only uncheck the physbone component

[reef jewel]

sending video

oh my gosh it literally didnt film anything on unity

it filmed one screen omg one sec

[compact dust]

lmao

[reef jewel]

also u said i dont uncheck that little blue box at the top just the script like it showed in the video?

[reef jewel]

see anythign wrong?

[compact dust]

not rlly

idk why it wouldnt be working unless for some reason it's being re-enabled, or theres another object holding physbones that have those as the root

[reef jewel]

UHH should i press the save in the file section?

[somber sequoia]

if you want to save the scene, sure.

[compact dust]

yeah but you dont have to save for it to update when uploading

[reef jewel]

oh wait should i remove component after unchecking the script?

[compact dust]

reccommended to save tho

yeah you could do that

[somber sequoia]

removing it means it won't be counted against you for performance rankings

on your avatar but disabled, it'll still count.

[compact dust]

if they're somehow being re-enabled then removing it would fix that

[somber sequoia]

(you might make an animation to enable it at runtime)

[compact dust]

kazin guess what

[somber sequoia]

chicken butt?

[compact dust]

no.

[somber sequoia]

hmm, my friend when we were 12 insisted that was the answer to that question.

[compact dust]

its the answer sometimes, this is not one of those times

[reef jewel]

waitt

i noticed something when i press avatar it has 2

[compact dust]

another collider?

[reef jewel]

?? idk the name of the model is pixie and one says pixie 1 one says pixie

it went away when i closed up that physics place

[compact dust]

if you disabled the physbones on the wrong one then that'd be why they're still active

[reef jewel]

loading vrchat to check

it workeddddd

cant put it in caps but thank you SO MUCH

genuinely ive been fighting with this thing all day

i could cry thank you thank you thank you all three of u

[compact dust]

hi lurker kazin

[somber sequoia]

oh hi

[hollow sun]

friend of mine's trying to use pumpkin's to copy the config of one avatar to another, but for some reason it seems to throw everything outside of where you'd expect (not a child of the avi he's trying to copy to) I took a quick look at how he did it and it was basically the same as how I use it, and I've never have this happen before, does anyone have any tips?

[uncut lotus]

Bringing up the eyes again. This is in game with no edits too them. For some reason their angled downwards, when their resting position isnt looking down.

Like this was the model before touching any of that stuff, and putting in a number in one slot changes more than its supposed too. I exited them, and it went back to doing that. IDK why it keeps acting like the rest position of the eyes are facing down, when its not like that anywehere

[mint pine]

Alright, I want to start making my own avis with blender, is there any other software or apps I should use to help?

[somber sequoia]

Unity to turn that model into an avatar and upload it to vrchat, VRChat Creator Companion (VCC) to get Unity and manage your projects, but that's about it

[cobalt rivet]

Was wondering if there was something I can do in Unity to hide/obscure my avatar completely if they didn't have me enabled?

Like some people have shaders turned off but avatars enabled in their safety settings and I was curious if there was a way to make it where they had to toggle me on to see me if they have their settings like that.

[compact dust]

dont think so

[spare gust]

Hey I’m having this issue were my vismemes are getitng stuck open rn. They will cycle through fine but will then stay stuck open after I’m done talking is there a fix for this?

[delicate tide]

I'm trying to create an animation for toggling a prop on and off, but whenever I go to click the prop, the animation stops recording, and idk why

[fiery crow]

make sure the prop is parented to your avi

needs to be underneath an animator in the hierarchy

[clever elbow]

can anyone help for some reason this toggle wont work but my other one does i have made new animations parameters and menus and it still doesn't work even remade the animations

dont know if these pics will help

[ornate stump]

Take a look in debug tab and see if animator layer state change according to the parameter.

[compact dust]

where would an opacity texture go on poi

[clever elbow]

where is the debug menu

[ornate stump]

Probably alpha map.

[compact dust]

ty

[gentle goblet]

Hai um, this isn't exactly a help thing but I was curious as to if the RP Base was just better than the Zinfit Base? It says it includes things not in Zinfit and such, and would they make it better or is it purely based on what you visually prefer?

[clever elbow]

it shows there is a change but nothing is happening

[ornate stump]

Then the issue is your animations.

[clever elbow]

just saw this

but when i preview the animation it plays normaly

[ornate stump]

That should be irrelevant.

[ornate stump]

Take screenshot of the animation panel, and screenshot of your avatar hierachy to the animated object.

[delicate tide]

Yeah it's attached to my hand in the hierarchy, but it came with its own animator which is weird

[clever elbow]

these the right things?

[ornate stump]

Yes. Then, do you have animation confrolling the same object in the layer below in the animator controller?

[ornate stump]

And your animation isn't working at all? Or it just doesn't toggle the object on?

[clever elbow]

the animations work like if i go to preview and play the animation they work and i can toggle it on and off but nothing happens

[clever elbow]

yes

[frail temple]

Avatar feet are clipping into the ground, Avatar at 0,0,0 , tried to take hip points up to fix, no change

Changed rig to try and fix problem, no change

[ornate stump]

The animation in layer below will override the animation from layer above. Effectively prevent it from working.

[clever elbow]

how do i fix it then

[ornate stump]

Just to confirm, try set weight of the layer below to zero, then see if the toggle works.

[clever elbow]

it worked but now the other toggle doesn't work

[ornate stump]

Then it's really overriding animation. You will have to figure out how to combine both layer into the same layer.

[west hornet]

Please tell me if this should go somewhere else but if you can i need a video on how to do an animated hair emission like how the blue shows in this video im trying to learn but i don’t know how to do it please let me know if anyone knows a good video

[ornate stump]

It's likely poiyomi emission sliding, or panning emission map texture. Combining with emission mask.

[compact dust]

emission scrolling is what i'd use, youd have to use an emission map for it

mask, not map

[warm fable]

Fuck you

Stupid automod

Fuck you automod

Why cant i fucking see my Avatar model I bought????

Why is unity such a fucking piece of shit

Why can't it be easy???

I spend over $100 buying and retexturing a model to match my Fursona and I can't even see the dam thing

[ornate stump]

That's much excessive F words.

[warm fable]

Well im pissed

I just want to be able to play as my own character in vrchat

Is that really so hard to fucking do

[ornate stump]

Difficulty is relative. This sound like you don't want to learn anything in avatar making.

[compact dust]

well if you dont do stuff correctly, yeah

[left wharf]

take a moment to calm down and think about what the problem is.
getting angry alone won't solve the problem.

[compact dust]

most avis have instructions

[warm fable]

I don't want to, I just want to import my own character into VRchat

[compact dust]

also maybe try exiting play mode
and dragging the fbx into the hierarchy

[compact dust]

meaning you have to learn how to upload an avi :D

[warm fable]

I installed all the necessary files, why cant I preview it

[ornate stump]

https://youtu.be/rRAnDMUbWt8?t=80 It's 14 minutes of how to setup basic avatar.

[compact dust]

^

[warm fable]

I don't like YouTube.

[compact dust]

boowomp

if you dont learn how to upload one
$100 bye bye

[ornate stump]

Your political view is going to make it worse for you.

[warm fable]

Fuck it

[ornate stump]

Sure.

[night ember]

Jeez

[compact dust]

louiz

lewiz

[night ember]

Buys avatar
Doesnt just get handed to on a silver platter
Be rude
Disregards any help

The entitlement

[night ember]

Louise

[compact dust]

luiz

[night ember]

Loo eez

[west hornet]

okay i’ll look in to it thank you

[west hornet]

otay thank youu

[warm fable]

Ok im sorry for my temper. I just wasn't finding any good answers about shit

Now I have an actual question

[compact dust]

cus you didnt ask questions

[warm fable]

So I have the model that I bought, but I also paid someone to retexture it

Am I supposed to assume i need to add both files at once?

[compact dust]

it doesnt matter the order

a texture is just a png

[warm fable]

Ok how do I upload a mass amount of files at once

[junior void]

upload to where

[warm fable]

Uh its the textures

[junior void]

i didnt ask what, i asked "to where"

unity, blender, maya

[warm fable]

Where do i put these in Unity?

[junior void]

wherever you want, preferably into a folder you can find again easily. from there, you add them to materials

[warm fable]

That doesn't really answer my question, How do I transfer them to materials

[junior void]

It does answer that. You literally import all of your textures and once they are inside unity, you drag the images into the slots on your materials - aka color goes into albedo, normals go to normal maps slots etc

[warm fable]

It doesn't let me import the whole thing by dragging it

[junior void]

why not

[warm fable]

Idk why

[junior void]

explain whats happening if you try?

screenshots?

[compact dust]

drag into assets

[warm fable]

Same thing happens

[junior void]

You should make a new folder inside your unity project and drag them to assets/your new folder or drag the folder the images are in already as whole into assets

[compact dust]

which is?

i see no errors

[warm fable]

I just get the red cancel symbol and cant put it in

[junior void]

if you drag them to here it should be fine

[compact dust]

such a perfect red box

[junior void]

assets is YOUR files. "project" is a tab for a unity window, ofc you cant add stuff to a tab header

[warm fable]

Ok Its in now

[compact dust]

do you happen to know anything abt unity

[warm fable]

Honestly no

Im not good at PC stuff

[junior void]

doesnt mean you cant learn

[warm fable]

Maybe, I did look up a YouTube video (although I hated doing it) and learned a little bit about it

Anyways

So I loaded the base model beforehand and I have this which seems to be some sort of showcase of different shapes and colors of the model.

[compact dust]

uhuh

[warm fable]

My textures didn't load in at all, is there anyway for me to see them

[compact dust]

no you dont see textures

you see materials

look up a material tutorial

[junior void]

they will be where you dragged them into

if you dragged your textures to assets, theyll be in the assets folder

[warm fable]

Yea but how do I actually see them in the scene thingy

[junior void]

click on one once and youll see a preview in the inspector

[warm fable]

Can I not see them on an actual avatar until I imported it?

[compact dust]

like i said
material tutorial

[junior void]

you would need to put the texture into the material's texture slots

[warm fable]

And where would I put that?

[compact dust]

the material texture slot

[junior void]

pick an avatar, click it twice (or find the mesh you want to target in it's hierarchy on the left) and find the materials on them in the inspector. Expand the materials and see all slots and settings - where is what inside that is different per shader

[warm fable]

Ok im lost, where do I find the materials at? I don't see anything thats called that in the inspector

[junior void]

materials are assigned to meshes (body parts)

[tall dock]

For some reason merging VRLabs Slash FX with Avatars3.0 Manager messes up my gestures to a way that it gets glitched out, any help?

[warm fable]

Again I don't see anything called meshes

[junior void]

you clicked the avi once

i said click it twice

you want the avi to be outlined orange, not blue

[compact dust]

hi eli

[desert elk]

how do you know I'm here? 😭

[tall dock]

scary

[compact dust]

**Eli ** is typing...

[desert elk]

oh

right

[compact dust]

:)

[desert elk]

um

oops

[warm fable]

Literally been clicking the avatar and the name of it in the heirarchy tab

Its not appearing orange for me

[desert elk]

you need to click the mesh

click the triangle next to the Avi name

[compact dust]

this is why i suggested a tutorial

[desert elk]

and you'll get he armature and meshes

[warm fable]

Gods im so fucking stupid, im sorry for asking

[tall dock]

click the names highlighted inside the avatar on the hierarchy

[warm fable]

Oh

[desert elk]

as in when you're merging layers? you could be merging two different layers that have gestures on them causing them to glitch out

watch tutorials

making avatars is a big topic

[untold pollen]

okay thank youu

[warm fable]

Ok i found the materials

[desert elk]

not a 15 minute VC

[tall dock]

vrlabs weaponslash fx doesn't have any gestures, only four things and for some reason without those 4 the gestures work properly

[warm fable]

Alright what do I do next?

[junior void]

... Expand the materials and see all slots and settings - where is what inside that is different per shader

[warm fable]

Ok...

[desert elk]

there should be textures assigned to materials

[compact dust]

hi eli

[desert elk]

if they're not there you'll need to assign them manually

hi skibidi michstan (help me)

:)

[compact dust]

you're next.

[tall dock]

managed to fix it

write defaults problem

i always forget to check

[desert elk]

oh yeah

usually sdk points it out

as a warning

[warm fable]

Is it these?

[compact dust]

i was going to say smt but my lawyer advised me not to

[desert elk]

double click on the one you want to open

[warm fable]

But theres so many of them

[desert elk]

or switch to the one you want to use instead

I'm not actually sure what you're trying to do

switch textures to custom ones?

[warm fable]

I have custom textures for the model and I want to replace the default ones

[desert elk]

okay

close that menu you have there

and double click on the material that's currently selected

you can do two things tbh:

1. Drag your new textures to the slots in currently existing materials.
2. Make new materials and use those instead. It would require you to set them up again with all of the settings you want

if you don't mind not having the normal ones you could just switch the texture out on them

[desert elk]

Double click Spotted Hyena (not the circle next to it)

[warm fable]

Ok

[tall dock]

I love that vrlabs slahs doesn't work if wd isn't off

im getting so stressed

[desert elk]

I use it with wd on all the time and had no problems

yet

[tall dock]

For some reason

When I use it with WD

It stops working

Slashes appear on the wrong side

and it doesn't trigger with hand movement

if i use it without wd

[desert elk]

I see

[tall dock]

works perfectly

[desert elk]

that's weird

[tall dock]

but gestures die

aghhh what do i dooo

eli you think it could be because i updated to the newest sdk?

[desert elk]

i have no idea

[tall dock]

i gunna die

it was sdk

i will die

[warm fable]

Alright made some progress

Now how do I add in other textures

[desert elk]

do the same thing but with other meshes

open the materials, switch the textures

[warm fable]

Dont see textures

Wait

[junior void]

that doesnt help us jack

[warm fable]

For the body, eyes, and haircuts I have files for normal, metallic roughness, AO,and Albedo that the person that made the textures sent me what do those mean and are they important

[junior void]

your materials are made up of those slots

so for the full visual, each texture adds to it, so do you think details are important?

[compact dust]

hi eli/zero

[warm fable]

I see so how do I replace the revel wolf files with those ones instead?

[junior void]

the same as you did with the color textures

material slots are named, so find the ao, roughness etc and place the new textures that fit the name into them

[warm fable]

Well I didn't really do it your guy's way,..

I found this while searching stuff

[junior void]

if your premade thingy came with a material and you applied that material, it likely already uses those new maps

in this case, youre done

[compact dust]

wowie a guide/tut

[warm fable]

Oh ok

So what do I do with all the extra models? Just delete them?

[junior void]

whatever you want

[warm fable]

I deleted the other 4 avatar models but I still have textboxes and shit, how do I remove those too?

[desert elk]

find them in the hierarchy and delete them

[warm fable]

Ok i found the other stuff

Now im about ready to upload it (don't worry I looked up how to do it)

Now should I be concerned about having too many bones in my avatar?

[desert elk]

not really

ofc it's better for performance if there's less bones, but some avatars need the additional stuff

[gentle goblet]

I have a question, why when data transferring do you swap nearest vertex to nearest face interpolated?

Unless that is wrong, either way I've seen people use both and I am curious about which one I should be using and why ^-^

[warm fable]

Is their any way I can get an avatar from very poor to poor or better?

[desert elk]

yeah sure, it depends on your stats

you can see them in the sdk

[warm fable]

It has 102568 triangles and 78.49055 MB

[desert elk]

and the rest?

tris and mb aren't the only thing that matters

[warm fable]

4 skin mesh renderers, 6 material slots, 15 non-local contact component count

And a lot of phys bones and bone components and transform count

As I mentioned earlier

[desert elk]

I don't remember the limits from memory so I can't tell you what that means performance wise
if you want less triangles you'd need to go to blender and dissolve some vertices or bake your avatar using the tuxedo plugin
here you can read the limits for specific ranks: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-performance-ranking-system/

[warm fable]

I see

Is being poorly optimise a huge deal? I have quite a few of them in my collection

And I see quite a few like that

Eh fuck it I see plenty of people with them I'll publish it

[torpid adder]

how come nothing happens when i click agree and get license for the free unity license

[gentle goblet]

How do I select faces through other faces while editing in blender?

I knew but have forgotten ;-;

[spark walrus]

Alt+z for X-ray, 3 for face select

[gentle goblet]

Thank youuu

[oak shale]

What do I do here?

[spark walrus]

My first instinct says hierarchy problem, but don't bet the farm on it

[oak shale]

I'm new to this stuff

What is problem?

[spark walrus]

Usually, this happens because you've got the bone in the wrong spot so it isn't being calculated correctly, but there's a lot more info needed and you'll need a pretty involved reshuffling of things

[oak shale]

Will I have problems if I put this as none? lmao

[spark walrus]

Only if you want a working spine 😅

[robust wadi]

not much of a avatar problem, more like unity if anybody can please help, it was doing this for ages

constant loop of this

[timber wharf]

@robust wadi try to make backup and delete Library folder

[uncut lotus]

This is more of a question, but is there a quicker way to import a model from blender to unity if youve already got it like...in there? Like, Im finding myself hoping back and forth from Blender and Unity to edit this model, and each time I do, I delete the current FX folder, and materials folder, and re-add the file. Is there like, a faster way to update that file that doesn't have me re-adding litterally everything?

[desert elk]

you override the fbx

[robust wadi]

already did

[ornate stump]

Simply just don't delete anything. Also don't unpack prefab in the scene, this to make sure the model is update with the overwritten fbx file correctly.

[robust wadi]

nothin, same, it even got me all the way back at the start so I had to wait 13 hours and now its here again

[uncut lotus]

So when overloading it, is it as simple as saving over the fbx file in blender, and re-opening Unity or something?

[ornate stump]

"overwrite", yes. Doesn't matter whenever unity is open or not, it works both ways.

[desert elk]

open the unity assets file in the explorer window and drag your new fbx in, pick override. That's how i do it

[uncut lotus]

Alright thanks. Every video made it look stupid hard-

[fathom fossil]

can custom c# scripts be used on avatars

[ornate stump]

No.

[desert elk]

no

[robust wadi]

no

[fathom fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-sad-sad-mario-mario-look-phone-sad-look-sad-gif-17200741509957979964

[frail temple]

What's an easy way to make this avatar slightly brighter? (Poiyomi shaders - Vertex Rounding ON)

Something like a Minimum brightness option at the least

[ornate stump]

That's the answer though?