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[fiery crow]

wdym by custom playable layers?

[lusty parrot]

these

[fiery crow]

what layers are u adding and whats its use case?

what kind of animations?

[round comet]

Depending on what it is, that may be the root of your issue

[fiery crow]

if youre animating non humanoid transforms or any objects, do it in your FX

[weak briar]

started today with my next avi, its gonna be kamina from gurren lagann

[desert elk]

oo nice!

[lusty parrot]

Just some dances

[fiery crow]

ah then thats the right spot

[timid terrace]

Just use gogo loco and edit the dances that are there

[fiery crow]

^

ye

easiest way, drag and drop and just assign the vrcemote value to a menu toggle (if there already isnt menus for it, been a while since i added anims to it)

[timid terrace]

I might do a video about that actually

I only have a "How to change an AFK pose in GoGo loco" video

[balmy barn]

just see how dance state is setup

(and remove the useless less state)

[pastel nest]

good day hope you are all doing well

got an issue where when i press play my left eye looks slightly right and i dont know why

i dont have a layer affecting the eye

and i dont know if its just in unity playmode and not ingame?

[delicate olive]

yo guys simple blender question here
my boyfriend made this hair for me but because the rings were duplicated they turned translucent when imported to Unity
Do I need to recreate the rings or is there anything I can do to fix it myself rq

[pastel nest]

have something similar with my right leg moving slightly forward in play mode

[pastel nest]

normals need to be flipped

[delicate olive]

"this hair" proceeds to not show it

here

[pastel nest]

and also when you say translucent do you mean transparent?

[delicate olive]

yeah you kinda just only see the insides of the rings lol

[pastel nest]

just check the normals

[delicate olive]

alr one sec

[round comet]

YOO

Always excited when I see gurren lagann appreciation

[delicate olive]

how do I flip normals 😭
do I do it on blender or unity

[pastel nest]

blender

select the hair go into edit mode make sure all faces are selected then press Shfit+N

should recalculate normals

[delicate olive]

Oh yeah they're no longer traslucent, thank you

sorry for posting over you earlier btw

[pastel nest]

its

ok

😦

just kidding it really is ok,

but what you were seeing isn't translucent

it was the inside of the toroids cause the normals were flipped arround you were looking through the outside and only seeing the inside

[delicate olive]

That makes sense, thank you

Also little side note in case you just so happen to know, is there any up-to-date CATS add-on? I just edited the text in Notes but a lot of features are still broken

[pastel nest]

you can check on the githubpage

https://github.com/teamneoneko/Cats-Blender-Plugin-Unofficial-/releases

but also just make sure that you are only using 4.4 with 4.4 blender

i am not using blender 4.4. beta yet so i am still using the one released last month 4.3.1.5

dont know which version you are using and if you are on that version then there is no later version available

[delicate olive]

I'm on the original official cats add-on lmao

I'll use the unofficial one, thanks 3x

[pastel nest]

you may also look into Robust Weight Transfer plugin its usefull

[delicate olive]

I had unofficial at one point, but then I immediately switched back to official because uhhh... official, I guess? lol

[delicate olive]

Ooo thanks!

[pastel nest]

https://jinxxy.com/SentFromSpaceVR/robust-weight-transfer

also sorry if i am not allowed to post links in this channel 🙂 let me try read the guidelines

[balmy barn]

remove all vertex groups on the mesh you want to have new ones, point to one that has it , transfer weights it now have new vertex groups

some derpyness might exsist

[desert elk]

i think I'm finally convinced to get this add on XD

[pastel nest]

yeah the robust wigiht transfer is good

wow my spelling .. weight even

[desert elk]

xDd

[fiery reef]

Hey people, what version of blender do I use for Avatars? and if anyone's got a link it'd be highly appreciated 🫶

[weak briar]

just use current blender

[pastel nest]

not the beta

just normal

[desert elk]

i use 4.2 because it's the most recent LTS

[pastel nest]

i am on 4.3

[desert elk]

LTS - Long Time Support

[fiery reef]

Okay, it says here 4.3.2 is most recent.

[left gull]

also blender version generally doesnt really matter unless you're using add-ons iirc

[weak briar]

LTS - Lost the Subway Sandwich

[desert elk]

just don't use an ancient one and you'll be good

[balmy barn]

one xps addon i have does not like anything above 3.6 , otherwise 4.2 lts

[fiery reef]

Got it, thank you.

[pine valley]

I am working on my first asset I'm planning to redistribute. Are there any popular conventions for folder structure, or should I just shove everything into Assets/chemicalcrux/Whatever/...?

[desert elk]

i like when things are organised, materials, textures, animations, etc

takes less time to find stuff when you know where it could be

[pine valley]

oh yeah, this is more about where I put my top-level folder

[fiery reef]

Anyone any idea why my blender says this whilst trying to add Cats?

[delicate granite]

anyone know where i can get commissions for a custom avatar?

[pine valley]

what version of blender is this?

[fiery reef]

4.3.2

Most recent, non beta.

[pine valley]

it looks like it's not recognizing the concept of a package being in the "testing" category

I know that I only see "official" and "community" now

I don't use CATS, but maybe it requires an older version of blender?

[timber wharf]

@fiery reef what cats are youre trying

@delicate granite here only scammers, try https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1204506421631393913

[left gull]

suggest deleting ur message and blocking DMs from this server with all the scammer accounts you just pinged with that message lmao

[fiery reef]

This one.

[delicate granite]

it says #unkown

[left gull]

Its VRCTraders in #1204490664637890580

[delicate granite]

can you send me the server invite?

[left gull]

no

[timber wharf]

@fiery reef thats ancient "og" version, it doesnt even work with 3.0

[delicate granite]

then whats the vanity link

[fiery reef]

Oh, huh? which one would I need then? Since this is the only one I could find.

[timber wharf]

https://github.com/teamneoneko/Cats-Blender-Plugin-Unofficial-/releases

[fiery reef]

Oh, I think I've got it now.

Thank you.

[left gull]

it doesnt use a custom vanity link, like i said its in one of the threads in the Community servers tab or you could likely google it since its a major server for vrchat specific commissions

id link it if it didnt break the rules but since it does you'll have to find it yourself but it should be showing up if you click either of the hyper links me or leastmost put even if it says unknown

[dusk elk]

Hello, can anyone help me fix this?

[ornate stump]

What "this"?

[dusk elk]

why is the corset sinking into the body😭

[round comet]

Either rigged or weightpainted weird

[snow sandal]

When I switch "selected Platform" to *iOS * it remains on Windows in the selection despite the requirements clearly changes. When I upload it sets it as the new Windows avatar instead of uploading as the iOS one. How do I fix this ?

[left gull]

manually swap through the build settings ( or just close and re-open your project) sometimes the upload panel is buggy and wont swap

[balmy parrot]

havin an issue where the blendshapes that hide my avatars body are set to max. As far as I can tell none of the avatars animations are forcing them that way

[desert elk]

are they set like that on default?

[balmy parrot]

yeah

[desert elk]

well, if they're on by default then they will be on in game

[balmy parrot]

i did try making it a toggle

ill see if i cant try again though

[delicate olive]

Ya'll help me figure out how to format this Atlas 🤔

I have the hair texture and ribbon texture etc etc
but I also have a highlight and gradation texture. Should I put those on the same Atlas? or on their own atlas?
I could also just burn the gradation into the hair texture in the Blender Shading tab, but is that a good idea?
what do ya'll think

[pastel nest]

is there a way to set 2 params at once in the menu?

or do i have to make another param and then based on that set vaious others in an fx layer?

[timber wharf]

@pastel nest you can use state behaviours

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#avatar-parameter-driver

uh, so yeah, another param and setting animator ones

[pastel nest]

yeah that is what i have

was just checking if there isn't something similar

[patent geyser]

Anyone artists able to explain how to make this texture for Kikyo not have a giant gap in the texture? I added a Mermaid style scale texture on top that is full body, but its not acting right. There's large gaps on the chest, and I'm not an artist or texture maker so I don't know what is happening. Trying to make a mermaid themed model and the textures don't want to cooperate.

[young musk]

Unity is so hard I have no idea what I’m doing 😂😭

[desert elk]

what part are you struggling with?

[young musk]

A lot lol i downloaded my first model and tried to add something and now it’s not connecting so i was gonna take it off or delete it and when i was looking for a way to do that now camera is all messed up and im just googling and gigging one hole after another 😂😭

[somber sequoia]

start with one of those and explain what you did and what you expected to happen

[desert elk]

join VRC Traders Discord, you'll get scammers here

mostly

[heavy zephyr]

We all start somewhere it's fine. Make sure you read the docs on VRChat's creator pages first.

The camera problem is most likely your view point not being set up properly, you can adjust that in the "VRC Avatar Descriptor" component, located at the root of your avatar.

To add clothing (which I'm assuming you are referring to when mentionning it isn't connecting to your avatar) or any object that needs to follow your avatar's movements, you need to make sure their armature are linked to yours OR you place the armature inside of yours correctly OR you constraint it to your armature accordingly.

For any further questions, make sure to include any details that could help or even screenshots so it's easier for people here to help you.

[desert elk]

mhm

[somber sequoia]

oh good

[desert elk]

yup

[proper storm]

Is there a way to make gameobject active when something in turned on an axis, such as upsidedown?

I would assume constraints or smth

[somber sequoia]

you could put a physbone on the thingy with gravity on it, and detect when its angle passes a threshold

[proper storm]

I could just make it invisible and attatch it somewhere yeah

[somber sequoia]

not sure what's invisible?

[proper storm]

the physbones to detect

[somber sequoia]

physbones aren't visible

[proper storm]

not if you use the component to make an object have them I mean, just the way I think of it

[somber sequoia]

I meant literally a physbone on a GameObject, there's no mesh involved here.

[proper storm]

How could I listen for the angle though?

[somber sequoia]

look at the bottom of the physbone component

put something in the Parameter slot and you'll see what shows up

[proper storm]

I see parameter down there yes

I see now

Can you just listen for different stuff on game objects though?

maybe thats a world sdk thing then

[somber sequoia]

there's no real "listening" to things

but you can use the parameter that physbones publish when they move.

[lofty bane]

Is there a examples of avatars that make jse of the viseme int parameter? I just want to know how to properly use it to make my avatar hide parts depending on the active talking viseme

[somber sequoia]

it's just an int parameter, you use it like any other

[hollow bolt]

does anyone know of a pbr shader that has anisotropy? im trying to get my model in and want to try to make it as accurate as possible to blender/substance painter

[somber sequoia]

Poiyomi does

[hollow bolt]

its not that good sadly

i know its possible to make a shader with it, but i have no knowledge on coding

[somber sequoia]

hmm it seemed pretty decent when I tried it out

[ornate stump]

You know that game engine shader can't be too good, otherwise it'd just destroy performance.

[proper storm]

I mean im trying to play a anim when the whole object is turned upsidedown, it only tracks the local angle of the physbone, not relative to the object im animating pos

[somber sequoia]

Yes, but you can use gravity as a reference.

[proper storm]

ah

[somber sequoia]

If this is for a personal avatar, not a sale item, I'd ditch the armature on the sweatshirt entirely and just use the avatar's, do a weight transfer from the body and then touch up the weight painting.

[proper storm]

you mean like put a angle constraint on it, and then the closest to 0 will activate it?

[desert elk]

does the cats armature merge not work? if the bones are named the same thing it should work

[desert elk]

or that, that could work to

[somber sequoia]

no I mean have gravity pull the physbone down and then you can detect when the object is rotated from that default position

[grand geyser]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[desert elk]

you can also try what Kazin suggested

[proper storm]

I just did it like this and have less than a certain float value trigger it

it works completely fine

[somber sequoia]

excellent

[proper storm]

Thank youuuuuuu

[tame pelican]

im trying to make something but i cant actually make hair omg

[grand geyser]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[fiery reef]

Hey people! Question. I'm trying to import my avatar's FBX into Blender, and, well, it does techincally work, I don't think I've done it correctly?
What my end goal is, is to have her body fbx (or whatever there's needed) To import into substance painter to then add tatto's and such to her, but as you can see in the given image this is what in the FBX looks like in blender and Substancepainter. anyone any idea? I've tried searching the web, but all info is very limited :c.

[junior void]

I dont see nothing wrong. What were you expecting it to look like?

[fiery reef]

I am not sure? every tutorial I've found so far of people doing substance painting don't have all their clothes on. And not sure what I would need to do to properly like, use it? Because in the given screenshot u can see what this looks like in Substance painter.

I might of course be doing it entirely wrong, but, finding specific information from the internet is pretty hard.

[weak briar]

you mean you want to seperate clothes from body

[fiery reef]

Yeah? I suppose that'd be it, I just wanna be able to work on the body, add tattoo's piercings etc etc to them.

[junior void]

Usually what i do is i just move the clothing

[weak briar]

or you could just select the entire clothing in blender and seperate by selection

and then export only the body

is the char one object ?

[junior void]

You can toggle visibility of materials in spp as well

[weak briar]

what you could do do make this easier, is assign different materials in blender for clothes and body and then you can toggle visibility in substance

[weak briar]

this

[fiery reef]

And how would one do this?

[weak briar]

first of, is your char one object ?

[fiery reef]

Does that asnwer it? xD

[weak briar]

oof

[fiery reef]

I don't know xD

[weak briar]

can you select your object in blender

i can tell then

[weak briar]

i mean your char

[fiery reef]

Like that?

[weak briar]

ok it looks like all clothes are separate objects which is perfect

[fiery reef]

Great! :D

[weak briar]

do you want the ability to toggle your clothes in substance or is just the body fine ?

[fiery reef]

I don't need the clothes as of now, I just wanna be able to edit my skin/body for said Tattoo's and such.

[weak briar]

ok

then select the parts labeled body and head with Shift left click and then go to export, export as fbx

if that does not work, then you have to select both parts and separate by selection with right click and separate

[fiery reef]

Hm, export doesn't show up? Or do you mean in the top right under "file"?

[weak briar]

under file yes

and fbx here

[fiery reef]

Seemed to have worked, let me try importing it into SSP, second! :D

[weak briar]

sure, let me know if it works

[fiery reef]

Hm, I still get the same result.

Seems like it just exported it in it's entirty again.

[weak briar]

just out curiosity, can you open the fbx in blender

in a new file

[fiery reef]

Yup! Sec !

Yeah, same as before.

[weak briar]

ok the problem is, that you seem to have exported the entire model and not just the body, but thats ok. can you try to select body and head again and move them out of your armature hierarchy ?

and also can you show me how many materials your char currently has

[fiery reef]

They're out of armature now.

[fiery reef]

Where can one see this?

I apologise for my lack of knowledge, but therefor I persue it. Xd

[weak briar]

the little red sphere

[fiery reef]

There's a lot here, not sure if what you're referring to is on here

I selected my whole avatar, then clicked it, this is what showed after almost crashing xD

[weak briar]

ok thats good. first you can try to export your body and head again, that are now separate from the armature. if that does not work we can try something different

[fiery reef]

I seperated them from the armature, yet I still see a "body" and "Body head" Under it, does this matter?

[weak briar]

its weird that its under yoga pants

but give it a try

wait

there seem to be dupilcates

cause the other two are also selected

deselect everything

[fiery reef]

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say oops

[weak briar]

and then just select the two at the very bottom

[fiery reef]

When i do that It also selects those other 2.

shift + leftclick.

[weak briar]

mhh

just try it

[fiery reef]

Okay.

Same result, exported everything.

so I: Shift + left clicked Body and Body head. Clicked File. Export as FBX. Named it. opened a new file. imported the just exported FBX.

[weak briar]

ok that doesnt make any sense

can you show me the model when you select the body and head

[fiery reef]

Also, they're back under Armature now LMAO

Should I first take them out again?

[weak briar]

no its fine

[fiery reef]

It does seem to select only those 2.

[weak briar]

ok thats good

lets just go the save route but you should make a backup save.

[fiery reef]

I have a copy of the fbx now.

[weak briar]

no no no

copy of the blend file

[fiery reef]

Oh, yeah.

[weak briar]

good

ok

select all your clothes and under materials, create a new one, name it, and in edit mode assign it to everything that lights up. after that you make a material for head and one for body. assign it to them as well in edit mode

then you can export your entire model and just toggle the visibility in substance

[fiery reef]

Okay, hold on, I got my clothes all selected, and then i assume creating a "New material" is in the menu underneath?

As you can tell, very new, so this is like Chinese to me. xD

[weak briar]

its fine dont worry

[weak briar]

on the plus at the side

and then click on assign on the right side

[fiery reef]

I uh, dont have an assign button

[weak briar]

cause you are not in edit mode

[fiery reef]

Your right.

[weak briar]

press tab

[fiery reef]

Okay, it lights up now.

[weak briar]

perfect

now just do what i told you, and then export it

[fiery reef]

Body and bodyhead together, I presume?

[weak briar]

No, separate materials

[fiery reef]

like this?

[weak briar]

Yea

Now select all and export

[frigid orchid]

.

Anyone know why this billboard gets all messed up when uploaded?

[weak briar]

What is messed up ?

[fiery reef]

Okay, done, should I make a new file to try it out?

Or put it into SSP.

[weak briar]

Ssp

[frigid orchid]

Well the right is what it's supposed to look like. Left is in game. Its on its side, tiny, a box, etc.

[weak briar]

Oh xd

Seems like the scaling is not applied

[fiery reef]

These are my SSP settings i've been reccomended btw.

[desert elk]

that's an avatar? 👀

[fiery reef]

Alright, we're here now

[weak briar]

Ok

Top right

You See the materials with the resolution

[fiery reef]

Yeah

[weak briar]

Toggle all parts you dpnt want to see

Ok but you know what, if its like that originally, you can just Import the original file

[summer hearth]

Well this is a first, everytime i try yo build and publish my avatar, after 10 minutes it just, gives up and does nothing, tried it 5 times with the same result

[weak briar]

Can you send vr companion controller screen ,

[desert elk]

maybe your stats are too high?

[weak briar]

?

[desert elk]

yeah, show that

[summer hearth]

I reduced them from its previous version

The, what

[fiery reef]

I see my face and lowerhalf, rest is gone tho xDDD

[weak briar]

Huh

Where is the Material for the body

[fiery reef]

found it

oops

[weak briar]

Booba

[fiery reef]

There I put a shirt on her lol

[weak briar]

Can you select the body Material on the side and Show the uv ?

[fiery reef]

Where does one show the UV?

[weak briar]

its this

[fiery reef]

That

[weak briar]

ok looks good

now you can get to work

that model sure is detailed xd

[fiery reef]

Yeah, it's pretty big.

[weak briar]

that obviously aint a sfw model

[desert elk]

obviously

[fiery reef]

My lawyer has given me advice not to answer that question.

[weak briar]

i dont judge haha

you can delete the uv pic again

[fiery reef]

I'm just in persuit of knowledge is all, I wanna be able to be self reliant, so time to go to youtube and follow a gazillion SSP tutorials :D

[weak briar]

are you new to both blender and spp ?

[fiery reef]

Yeah, unity i've done a while, but I kept getting cockblocked by wanting to add things to it, but needing SSP and Blender.

I've added some things to my avatar before with blender, but even so it was mostly unity

[weak briar]

awesome step forward, nothing better than creating your own assets

[fiery reef]

Those were just very simple piercings, and metal claws.

[summer hearth]

Still, got it

[weak briar]

but you are familiar with making models vr chat ready with texture atlasing right ?

or is that unknown

cause from the looks of it, your model has a LOT of materials

which can be trouble

[fiery reef]

Just added those wth PNG's using Krita 😭

[weak briar]

thats a cockblock

[fiery reef]

It does, yeah.

[fiery reef]

Yeah, it was, i took the easiest way out, now I really wanna go beyond, and learn SSP and blender so I can add my own Tat's and clothing.

[weak briar]

well have fun, and dont hesitate to message me here in this channel if you have problems

if you want to of course

[fiery reef]

Thank you very much 🫶

[weak briar]

you're welcome ^^

[vernal timber]

Can someone invert this mask for me? I don’t have the tools in the app I use

I just need to white to be black and the black to be white

[balmy barn]

do you have paint ?

[somber sequoia]

magick file.png -negate out.png

[weak briar]

done

@vernal timber

[vernal timber]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[vernal timber]

No I just use my mobile phone and some cheap ahhh coloring tool

😭

[desert elk]

ibis paint can invert colours and it's free on phone

[vernal timber]

i'll get it for future reference ty ty

[desert elk]

I do my textures in it

[weak briar]

you do your textures on your phone

are you mental

im just joking of course

[vernal timber]

Lmao

[round comet]

I do mine on my iPad

[desert elk]

on a tablet 😭 phone only for quick fixes

[round comet]

I be using procreate’s 3d paint feature

Its testy but works overall

[weak briar]

is it really that uncommon to use substance painter for texturing ?

[round comet]

Its expensive is what it is lol

[weak briar]

yeah i just wanted to say that

[round comet]

Would honestly rather a jank program that’s a one time fee of $10 than like 60 bucks a month

As cool as substance painter is

[weak briar]

fair point

[desert elk]

i use ibis paint cause it's free and I can get it on my devices

[weak briar]

it honestly sucks that people are gatekept by just the insane pricing of some of these programs

[desert elk]

and I've been using it for ages now xd for not texture related stuff

so I know how to use it

[round comet]

Dude I wish substance was cheaper

Adobe is just greedy

[weak briar]

well

you can just do the "arrr arrr" and set sail

[round comet]

Ehhh

Maybe, but I’m chill with what I have

[runic fern]

so random thing, this is my first model that im making from an fbx but THIS keeps happening. as cute as it is i dont want it there (his mouth is doing :3) i figured out its his top jaw that keeps getting forced down and no blendshapes will fix it. it might be the visemes? its normal in unity and playmode but not in game, i cannot figure this out

[round comet]

Does he have a jaw bone when you configured him?

Doesn’t need one

[weak briar]

that facial expression xd

[round comet]

:3

Lookin ass

[runic fern]

LOOOL its adorable but i cant keep looking at it

[runic fern]

possibly :0 should i just delete it if so?

[round comet]

Just set the jaw bone to none for configuring the fbx

That screws stuff up sometimes

[runic fern]

is this the right area?

[round comet]

Ohh no, on the actual fbx

You should def do auto detect for your lip sync tho

[runic fern]

where would i find this specifically? im kinda jank when it comes to some stuff on unity lol (sorry 😭 )

[somber sequoia]

I think it's pretty excellent, even if Adobe

[desert elk]

click the fbx in assets

assets is the box at the bottom of the scream

the fbx is the file that's your avatar

[round comet]

Ty srry I’m in class HAHA

[weak briar]

lol

[next cape]

When I go to seperate my mesh by loose parts, it goes from this

To this

Any help?

[somber sequoia]

difficult to see what's a part and what's not, but that looks like the normals got messy, you could select the faces and reset them.

[next cape]

That was it, thanks a ton!

[runic fern]

I GOT IT! thank you sm yall

cursed furry piers

[somber sequoia]

oh nice

[jovial sphinx]

i dont understand why can't i install Unity Editor

[desert elk]

well, what method are you using to install it?

[jovial sphinx]

just says Validating...

for hours

[desert elk]

what method are you using to install it?

[desert elk]

that's the wrong unity anyways

[somber sequoia]

that version isn't going to help you with VRChat..

[desert elk]

exactly

why get it?

[jovial sphinx]

idk

[somber sequoia]

Also no need for Visual Studio unless you're scripting for worlds.

[jovial sphinx]

first pc build

never done this befor

[somber sequoia]

go here: https://vcc.docs.vrchat.com/guides/getting-started

[desert elk]

VRC and Creator Companion use Unity 2022.3.22f1

[jovial sphinx]

im trying that one now

[desert elk]

and you don't need Visual Studio, so you can disable it

and i reccomend installing from the unity hub

it tends to be faster than vcc

[jovial sphinx]

whys it say the Validating...

[desert elk]

why get Visual Studio again?

[jovial sphinx]

it keeps doing that no matter what verson i try to install

[desert elk]

that's useless and we'll just download longer

[desert elk]

download takes some time, be patient a bit, you just started downloading it

[jovial sphinx]

left my pc on all day once and it stayed on Validating...

[somber sequoia]

that seems weird.

[jovial sphinx]

idk what that means

[desert elk]

yea, it takes a bit sometimes, but i've never had it take that long

[opal raft]

can someone explain how you use a custom idle animation with gogo loco

cuz it seems like gogo changes the fx layer when you hit play so im just lost

[jovial sphinx]

is there something wrong with it?

[desert elk]

idk

i'm not a computer expert sadly

[somber sequoia]

did you install gogo manually or via VRC Fury?

[opal raft]

vrc fury

im guessing I need to do it manually

[somber sequoia]

oh - when you say "idle animation" what do you mean exactly?

like when you go AFK?

[opal raft]

no

when you arent pressing anything on ur keyboard

hold on

like you see how this avi has an idle animation when ur standing still

on pc

[somber sequoia]

er.. that's a static image so I'm not sure what you mean

[opal raft]

on pc usually u have ur hands on the side of ur character when standing still

but there are idle animations you can put on ur avi to either have it behind their back, dancing, wtv

[somber sequoia]

ah I use FBT, so I guess I haven't seen this in a while

[opal raft]

all of my avis has an idle so I know how to do it in general, but they never have gogo since it breaks it

[somber sequoia]

how are yours triggered?

[opal raft]

by pressing nothing on the keyboard

just by standing still

[somber sequoia]

I meant what in the animator itself causes that to play

[opal raft]

not pressing wasd basically

the base layer

[somber sequoia]

ahh

I wouldn't think that's in FX, but yes, using gogo loco does replace most of the animators, including the base one

the gogo loco docs do have a whole section about replacing their animations with custom ones, you might look into that

[opal raft]

I see

thank you mate

[worn falcon]

If I have multiple meshes on an avatar with separate visemes but the same blendshapes, what is the correct way to make sure they they're both affected by lip movement?

[somber sequoia]

Manually animating them, you can only have one mesh driven by VRChat's system.

Or join the meshes.

[worn falcon]

Ah, figured. I heard something about fx layer viseme parameters in animator. Is it possible for me to join these meshes while keeping respective materials, or is that a whole can of worms?

[somber sequoia]

yeah materials aren't affected here

[near cove]

Is there a way in unity to test speaking? My avatar is having an issue where when I speak in vrchat the face gets stuck in an expression that is not set in my visemes or hand gestures. It only happens when I speak and I’m not sure what is causing it.

[somber sequoia]

I use AV3 Emulator, and there's a way to trigger visemes

[frigid orchid]

Still looking for help with this if anyone knows why it drastically changes on upload

[somber sequoia]

from just those images, I'd say that's two different objects

[balmy barn]

i have no idea what im looking at, one is a box

[desert elk]

yeah, they look like two different things

[frigid orchid]

Right = Unity
Left = VRChat

[balmy barn]

still no reason to have that drastic different look, need more info does it have bones ? controllers ? , quads mesh? not triangulated?

avatar ? dropable object ? ect

[frigid orchid]

I need questions in order to give more info :P
Let me see

[balmy barn]

looks like some animation making it curl up into a ball (unpacked?)

ive seen transformers avatars, that one is like a box transformer

[gloomy flint]

is there a way to remove multiple parameters at once instead of one at a time :(

[somber sequoia]

you could edit the text file, but otherwise, no. The interface is pretty annoying.

[gloomy flint]

i hate it because when you buy an older avatar that doesn't use VRCFury and has face tracking built in

and you need to REMOVE every.. single... PARAMETER....

thanks for the notepad tip tho that does it so much faster

[somber sequoia]

yeah. then ctrl+r will reload files. Most of these things are just .yaml files so you can definitely edit them directly

[gloomy flint]

i didn't need to reload anything actually it automatically updates the parameters

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah idk why the creators don't just provide versions without it.. I made an avatar with facetracking and a particle weapon system, so i made a version for each combination so you could choose each separately.. it just makes the most sense

[gloomy flint]

why have a version without face tracking when you can instead have optimized versions that'll still have face tracking but now all the cool stuffs gone

[inner perch]

Not planning to do this for a while but how does avatar face tracking and speaking get set up?

[somber sequoia]

yeah sometimes it doesn't quite do that automatically

[pine elm]

no bones, inanimate object, generic rig (as suggested by vrchats documentation) has a animation controller slapped on since it was required. tbh probs triangulated since i didnt care ifthe mesh was clean or not forthe test

sorry for slow reply haha

but yes those aare the SAME object it gets wacky when exported to unity

i become a lil minecraft cube haha

[somber sequoia]

Faces can be one direction or the other, not both. If you want both you need two sets of faces.

Or, you can disable back-side culling in your PC-only shader, which definitely means more expensive rendering.

Make more faces?

[pine elm]

uh in unity using poiyomis shader you can change backface culling i think? iirc thatll show the texture from outside o nthe inside

[somber sequoia]

Then you'll need to do it with more mesh, yep

[pine elm]

rip

[somber sequoia]

Sure is

well not quite "merge" - you could but that's probably not a useful thing

[weak briar]

cant you just select all red faces and extrude them slightly ?

that way its two sided

[somber sequoia]

extruding faces won't do that, you just want to duplicate and flip

[weak briar]

huh

[somber sequoia]

what I'd do here though is only duplicate and flip the ones that will be seen

[weak briar]

yeah that would work too, if even unusual

[somber sequoia]

it's really common 🙂

[weak briar]

can you tell me why extruding wouldnt fix the one sided faces problem ? I mean you basically create a second layer

im legit asking

[somber sequoia]

have you ever used Blender to do this?

[weak briar]

i believe that I did that over the time I used it

[somber sequoia]

interesting.

[weak briar]

or am i stupid

[somber sequoia]

So if you make a plane, then inset a square, then extrude that square, it'll be very obvious. You won't have a back-face.

[weak briar]

let me just try that out, im curious noiw

[somber sequoia]

yeah that'll be easiest, picture worth 1000 words and all

[weak briar]

ok yeah the extruding is doing jackshit

[somber sequoia]

yep

[weak briar]

im a dumbass

im gonna pin this on "its late already", alright ?

[somber sequoia]

works for me

[worn flicker]

Im not sure if this is a unity orr a blender issue, buttt, i put my outfit that was rigged to akari by mimiiu into unity and when i go into play mode the outfit follows the butt physbones but not the chest physbones

[fair bane]

is there a way to protect my avatars from being ripped many of my avatars have been ripped

[worn flicker]

From what ive experienced, no not completely. are they public?

[fair bane]

i make them public for friends then they get out

so its annoying for me and my friends

[worn flicker]

Yes, that would be why. the only way you usually can prevent it is going to ripper discord servers and blacklisting your avatars i believe

theres no way to fully prevent people from ripping your avatars when theyre public unfortunately

[somber meadow]

The fundamental way that VRChat delivers content (assetbundles) are really reversible and not much of a way around it, however you can use a paid system from Dextro https://dextrovr.gumroad.com/l/DexProtect this will need a corresponding OSC program running with it though (Use VRCX's autostart function to have it open with VRChat)

if this is only shared to shared select people they can also use the OSC program with the generated keys shared to them

[somber sequoia]

hey, not bad! Make sure you weight paint it 🙂

kinda, though just doing that part is going to be pretty easy

could try Robust Weight Transfer using the existing jacket as source, that should get you pretty close.

Then when you're done just merge the new mesh into the old mesh object.

oh - and don't forget to UV unwrap it too... you could probably just stack the new island right on top of the old, but maybe you want a different texture on the inside, like IRL jackets have 🙂

[somber sequoia]

excellent 🙂

[spark walrus]

hellooo

okay first thing, where are avatar toggles stored in unity for the avatar?

where would i see that stuff at in the scene list

[somber sequoia]

avatar parameter list, which can be found the avatar descriptor component on the avatar's root object

if you like tutorials, this may help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqtSg6_W07Y

[spark walrus]

okay let me check this out haha

[median stream]

Why does this happen when ever i go into edit mode in blender?

Worked fine yesterday

[pine elm]

still need help with this 🥲 why does it become minecraft

[somber sequoia]

what "this" are you referring to here?

[median stream]

Whenever i left click the avatar stretches out

[somber sequoia]

left click what?

[median stream]

mouse

[somber sequoia]

obviously the mouse, but I mean what are you clicking on?

[proper storm]

what are you left clicking

[median stream]

anywhere on the screen

clicking on avatar does nothing as it will stretch it out

[somber sequoia]

and which tool do you have active?

[median stream]

talking about these? if so all of them does the same when it comes to stretching the avatar

[somber sequoia]

ok so what are you actually trying to do? Often you use the select tool at the top there

it could be you have a shape key active but I don't know what clicking would have to do with swapping that
Ignore that - I can see you're on Basis

[median stream]

So what i been doing these couple of days is just optimizing the avatar by removing triangles worked fine yesterday until today

[somber sequoia]

maybe make a video, it's not really clear what you're doing

[median stream]

after 4 clicks

[somber sequoia]

"4 clicks" specifically on what though?

[median stream]

i just click anywhere on the screen

i can't click on avatar as it does the same thing

before i just clicked the thing i wanted to delete

[somber sequoia]

really no idea given the info I've got, sorry

[proper storm]

try and reimport it on a new project

fresh slate

[median stream]

still acts the same

I guess i'll just reinstall blender

[proper storm]

do you run custom plugins?

[median stream]

I only use cats

worked fine yesterday
and today i was about to keep doing what i did yesterday

[fathom current]

How do I add a premade sub menu

[ornate stump]

Do you know how to edit the menu file?

[misty ridge]

If i add syncdances only to the pc version without adding it to the quest version of my avatar, will it show the dancing animations on quest?

[lofty abyss]

Where can i get the shader that hides you completly , also name ?

[wary siren]

If I were to add an animation to an avatar would it be on Blender side or Unity side?

[broken glade]

how do i move these ears like this with their bones?

[night ember]

You need the animations on the quest platform to actually be seen

[night ember]

You can just disable the mesh

[broken glade]

I can just move the mesh highlighted but it wont move the bones with it? Does this matter?

[night ember]

You can just move it one at a time

Move the mesh then move the bones after

[broken glade]

okay to eye ball it/

[night ember]

You could also just pose the ears if you wanted to

[wary siren]

So i am creating a avatar that is supposed to have part of the arm from like elbow down be replace with one solid object, would it be possible to change the bones of the model like that?

If any more context behind the avatar is required feel free to ask

[ornate stump]

The mesh topology might not be right. Incorrect topology often make deforming look incorrect.
https://topologyguides.com/ main focus is the section about aligning face with rotation.

[somber sequoia]

disable the mesh object or mesh renderer, but if you really need a shader for this, a simple discard works. You could do it with poiyomi by discarding the UV tile at 0,0, or use cutout mode and force the alpha to 0, or use a shader that does only this such as:
https://github.com/netri/Neitri-Unity-Shaders/blob/master/Discard.shader

[somber sequoia]

why change bones? Just swap mesh parts weight painted to the lower arm bone

[hoary gulch]

Hi so i been trying to recreate those light in the eye which move arcoding to the iris and it doesnt emit any light if you close your eyes does anyone have a idea how to do that

[somber sequoia]

emission on the eye mesh, and if you really want to hurt performance, a dynamic light on each eye bone which you disable when the eyes are closed (which you mostly have to manually animate, because there's no eyes closed parameter)

[hoary gulch]

Darn i dont think im that skilled ty anyway

[somber sequoia]

you could be 🙂

[lofty abyss]

yeh i could disable it , but the name would still show

[lofty abyss]

yeh but that wouldnt hide the name tag

[somber sequoia]

it's against the terms of service to hide name tags.

[lofty abyss]

oh really, even for a private world , its for our camera man, so people dont disturb them while filming

[somber sequoia]

simply have people who don't want to see it to turn off nameplates.

[willow bobcat]

I've been trying to look for a shader that replicates an effect of a scrolling texture straight down. I'm using Poiyomi 7.3's Panosphere mode which is exactly what I want in a front view but turning the camera around it is like that in all views.

Are there any shaders or way I can replicate exactly how it's doing this in Poiyomi?

[ornate stump]

Does scrolling happen on mesh surface or depends on viewing angle?

[willow bobcat]

Since it's Panosphere it depends on the viewing angle like this. Is there a way I can make it look like the first gif I sent in every view?

[ornate stump]

Instead of panosphere, try with screenspace uv instead.

Not sure if poi has an option though.

[willow bobcat]

Is there a specific shader that Screenspace UV is on?

[ornate stump]

No idea. Have you tried local UV also?

[willow bobcat]

I've been doing VRC Avatars for a while but I never really got a chance to mess with anything like that. I mostly just use settings on the shaders

[proper storm]

Why do my parameter drivers just not work

when it lands on the node with one, it should work, the parameter is spelled right (obviously), but it isnt changing anything

I have everything set right, it just refused to work, I even put a empty clip in the node running it and its not changing

[ornate stump]

What you did with the parameter driver?

[proper storm]

Its not changing it when it hits this node with the driver in it?

[ornate stump]

How often it enters that state?

[proper storm]

I just have it on loop, but every 2 seconds or so

just to test it

[ornate stump]

Did you check in gesture manager debug and see how the parameter is doing?

[somber sequoia]

note that you can't really use the parameter on the state it's on, you should use it in the next state

[proper storm]

I just have it like this I dont see the issue why it wouldnt be working

[proper storm]

and no, I haven't

[ornate stump]

Better check in debug menu.

[proper storm]

Where would it be?

[ornate stump]

In gesture manager in the inspector.

[proper storm]

Okay, Ill look

what

it just looked at debug, and it uh

fixed itself?

[ornate stump]

It probably already is working, you just looked at the wrong place.

[proper storm]

fucking unity observers paradox

[proper storm]

no

its a 1/3, I left it run for 5 minutes

and only had 0 for the time it was looping

its working now though

[quartz pewter]

can someone help

how do i fix this?

i used vrc fury armature link but it seems to not work nicely..

[desert elk]

it looks like a weight painting problem - you'll need blender

or those pants aren't made to fit the character and need to be sculpted in blender

[quartz pewter]

its made for the nardo, when its stood up no issue. only when it sits down

this avatar is the nardoragon and they are nardo pants, idk why its being like this

my friend gave me the pants, maybe there sum wrong with the pants?

[desert elk]

if the pants need to be toggable I'd probably just go to blender and make a Blendeshape for the legs to be thinner. And make the blendshape activate at the same time as the pants do

[quartz pewter]

that sounds out of my skill range.. idk how to do that

i just dont get why its fine here but it sits n all hell breaks loose

[desert elk]

it happens sometimes, that's why a lot of models have blendshapes for this kind of stuff

does the base come with any included?

[quartz pewter]

no

wait idk

im pretty new to avatar stuff and usually i have someone guide me

[desert elk]

when you click on your body mesh in the hierarchy on the left in the inspector you will have Blendshapes

usually you have stuff like visemes for speaking, eye blink, emotions, etc

[quartz pewter]

yes

it has all that

so how do i make it hide the butt when i toggle the pants?

[desert elk]

you need to check if there's a premade blendshape for that

if there isn't one you'll need to make it in blender

[quartz pewter]

ok

what if i unpacked the prefab and attached each piece to each limb?

[desert elk]

I don't attach clothing in unity so I don't know

but I think that's the same thing that vrcfury does?

so I don't think I'd make a difference

[quartz pewter]

Idk maybe? also yes the avatars body has blendshapes i believe, how do i make it go smaller for the toggle

[desert elk]

you can only do that if it has the Blendshape for smaller legs/butt

if it doesn't you'd need to make it yourself in blender

[quartz pewter]

it does

[desert elk]

are you making toggles manually or with vrcfury?
if manually you can just edit the animation for pants on to activate that Blendshape and pants off to turn the blendshape back to 0.
If vrcfury, idk how.

[quartz pewter]

vrc fury

[quartz pewter]

i still havent managed to fix this issue bc i got lost

[mental estuary]

If the clothes were definitely designed for the nardo, go through https://vrcfury.com/tutorials/linking-clothes and make sure to look at all the edge cases. You likely just need to change some settings or properly link blendshapes if they're being driven

[quartz pewter]

ok

[barren wharf]

how do i stop the arm from clipping through the top

[desert elk]

make the top bigger or the arm smaller. Or Sculpt it to fit better in blender.

[barren wharf]

how do i make only the top bigger?

[desert elk]

size in blender

[barren wharf]

oh ok

[desert elk]

I'd probably just sculpt it tbh

it doesn't look like it's clipping a big amount

[inland seal]

When I jump the avatar thats going in random directions

Heres a vid

[balmy barn]

using cloth with colliders not set 'is trigger' ? or some other collider

you collide with your own avatar capsule and fly randomly around

[inland seal]

Is there a way to find it fast or I need to check each clothe?

[balmy barn]

check collider settings

[inland seal]

Where are they ;D

Im stupid srr

[balmy barn]

ect

[inland seal]

A

[balmy barn]

its a compontent somewhere on your av

[inland seal]

Is there a way to find it thru all the items?

Like you just type it in search and it will show if it has one

or thats not possible?

[ornate stump]

Search t:collider

[inland seal]

thx

Ay

Worked :D

Thx

[barren wharf]

sculpt?

[desert elk]

yes, sculpting in blender

[barren wharf]

oh ok, also how do i add physics to the clothes?

like

i want the sleeves to not be like this

[desert elk]

physbones in unity. You'd need to add bones to the sleeves and add physbones to them in unity

so they move

[barren wharf]

okie thank you

[desert elk]

if that's what you're asking

[gusty hollow]

Hey guys, can anyone help me with this?
I recently did a headswap on a model but her face expressions are frozen
I'm using the head of godmagician on my model and put the fx and menu of the god magician avi but her face wont move no matter what i do ;-;

[desert elk]

did you set up visemes with the correct mesh?

AHH face expressions

I misunderstood

well misread

do you have the animations recorded? for the face expressions?

[junior void]

I assume the animations used reference the old head for which the path, name or blendshape names do not match

[somber sequoia]

ooh I didn't think of doing a thing for both ears, I may have to do that

[pearl fable]

Is it possible to trigger the default arm and hand position when holding an item on desktop when toggling an object on?

[inland lake]

hey any tuto to use the new vrc parent to lock items in world?

[pearl fable]

Make sure the constraint is on and enable “freeze to world” in advanced section

[inland lake]

attached to nothing right?

[pearl fable]

The item you want to freeze

[inland lake]

yeah but what im trying to say is i need to leave source empty and is active true = lock isnt?

i dont really understand how this work so im very confused

[pearl fable]

Yh, source empty, is active true and in advanced setting toggling freeze to world makes it stick

[inland lake]

oooh just saw the option yeah make sans now ty

[balmy barn]

if you have no source element, it does not behave when you try to reset it back to orginal position

(doesnt go back to head)

none = grab whatever its on , like physbones

testing it again cause that one is pretty old since its still using unity constraints, see if anything changed

[sleek finch]

the view position ball is somewhere and i cant find it, anyway to get it?

[pearl fable]

If you set view to 0,0,0, won’t it be at 0,0,0 of the scene?

[somber sequoia]

make sure you have gizmos turned on in the Scene view in Unity. little globe at the upper-right.

[sleek finch]

i have them on

[somber sequoia]

I'd do what Nicay said then

[sleek finch]

tried thast

the ball isnt moving with it i think

got it

[fathom current]

I’m using vrcfury and I’m not sure how to merge it onto it

[mental estuary]

Use a full controller. Put the menu and parameters it needs into the corresponding slots

[hollow sun]

Heya folks, I'm trying to help a friend with a problem he's having with a Mayu avatar in unity; He's trying to remove the base's ears to use a custom one, by editing the base model that the configured avatar prefab in unity uses directly in blender, deleting the ears from the mesh and replacing them with another set he got off the web. But for some reason when he exports the fbx back into unity it only updates the fbx and not the actual avatar prefab. What is even weirder is this seems to only happen with the ears, I tried adding in a cube in the model where the head should be and when exporting that to unity it updated in both the .fbx and the avatar prefab, I thought that made zero sense until I tried giving them the ears I was using in another model and they also showed up only on the .fbx and not the avatar prefab. Does anyone know what could be going on here?

[somber sequoia]

Did you unpack the avatar prefab in your scene? Don't do that.

[timid terrace]

No, but you can use Pumpkin's Avatar Tools to copy everything from the original prefab to the "new" fbx

[robust acorn]

Hey peeps, I've been trying to figure it out on google etc etc but can't seem to find a fix but it seems that I permanently have this menu on unity and can never close it, even reloading the skd didn't fix it

It just sits at the top left of my unity.

[desert elk]

isn't there an x?

to close it

[robust acorn]

No X for me.

I've tried reinstalling everything several times, even clearing the caches etc.

[desert elk]

can you drag it somewhere else? maybe it's just docked somewhere

[proper orbit]

i lost my thinggy that chages from move tool to rotate to scale and stuff on unity and idk how to get it back
can somone help?

[robust acorn]

Can't even drag it.

[somber sequoia]

you could use the keyboard shortcuts, qwerty in order

[desert elk]

can you send a full screenshot of how it looks?

[proper orbit]

im not good with keyboard shortcuts i kinda just want the thing i can click to change it back

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'm looking right now

[desert elk]

oh that's weird, can you right click it? does it have a close option?

[robust acorn]

nope

[desert elk]

hm, are you using the correct unity version?

[robust acorn]

2022.3.22f1?

[desert elk]

yea

[robust acorn]

Yep.

[desert elk]

i have no idea what could be causing that

[robust acorn]

It's stopping me from making an avatar which is highly annoying.

[somber sequoia]

huh I'm not sure how to re-enable that

I bet you could close the scene tab and add a new one though

hmm that didn't do it

[desert elk]

did you try clicking the buttons there? getting started?

[robust acorn]

I've clicked all of them

[desert elk]

that's definitely weird. And it's weird that reinstalling doesn't fix it

[robust acorn]

Big L to making avatars lol

[pearl fable]

Try alt f4

[robust acorn]

Lmao

[desert elk]

xD

[robust acorn]

Bro's actually a genius

It removed it

[desert elk]

Fr??

[somber sequoia]

bro knows how to use windows 🙂

[desert elk]

xD

[robust acorn]

I'm not joking

[desert elk]

wow

that's wild

[pearl fable]

That’s the use case🤷🏼‍♂️

[desert elk]

woah

[proper orbit]

yea idk how it even disapeared

[desert elk]

i thought it would just close unity

[desert elk]

is it also missing in new projects?

[proper orbit]

yes

[desert elk]

oh

[somber sequoia]

... wild

[proper orbit]

new old and current its just..gone?

and its this thing im talking about

i dont have it

[desert elk]

Window > Layouts > Default? Maybe giving it a reset will do something

[proper orbit]

it worked!

[desert elk]

yay!

[proper orbit]

u r amazing!

[desert elk]

I found it on unity discussions xD

[proper orbit]

fair enough lol

[pearl fable]

Anyone that knows if I can add behaviour states to vrcfury? Or toggle a bool to true on certain toggles with it?

Nvm, I think setting an fx float will do

[indigo wing]

Hello, I am trying to use gesture manager and I am having issues because a couple of my hand gestures aren't what they are supposed to look like how do I go about fixing that?

[hollow sun]

pretty sure he didn't, I'll have to check

[hollow sun]

I'll pass that along cheers!

[merry pine]

This is what I am looking at for warnings or errors in the SDK for an avatar on quest. It uploads fine, then I get ingame and it says security checks failed. I only use materials to color the avatars and they don't have any textures. This didn't start happening until last week while I was at a wedding. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know because this is now effecting my income.

I know the triangles are crazy dont make fun of me.

[balmy barn]

ok

[somber sequoia]

nothing there is obvious but you cut off the rest, so..

[balmy barn]

315k 'quest' avatar

[somber sequoia]

wait, that's for quest? yeah that's why.

[desert elk]

too much for quest

[merry pine]

Alrighty appreciated. This wasn't an issue for months now.

[balmy barn]

i got no idea how much you can do before security hits a quest one, my guess 100k

[merry pine]

Like they have been uploading just fine since october

[desert elk]

just because they let it upload doesn't mean it's a good idea :)

[merry pine]

Thats not what im saying

[balmy barn]

that was then, things changed

[somber sequoia]

I'm pretty sure avatars like this have always been an issue, they were just allowed before

[desert elk]

sorry, maybe i misunderstood

[merry pine]

Like this has been working just fine, then one day it stopped working until a few days ago but I havent seen any announcements or anything about a recent update that would change it.

[ornate stump]

You'd have to realize that that amount of data is somewhat "on the edge", so security check might failed anytime because your avatar data is excessively large.

[merry pine]

Alright Ill make a test version then that is a lot lower poly

[timid terrace]

How does anyone know what is "on the edge"

Like how does the system decide

[balmy barn]

recommended 20k, you are 315k

[ornate stump]

Avatar beyond 100k polygons usually exceed the amount of both compressed and uncompressed size.

[balmy barn]

twice id say 'ok' , 10 times that no

[fiery crow]

naur

[timid terrace]

Why does let you upload if it does that though ?

[somber sequoia]

'tis a good question.

[desert elk]

sometimes i wish it didn't tbh

[balmy barn]

sdk always been wierd, got a old one? (try the new 3.7.6)

[ornate stump]

Older sdk version doesn't have check for uncompressed size.

[merry pine]

Doesnt it being to large polygon wise just mean it gets turned off by default

[merry pine]

Im on 3.7.5

[timid terrace]

Oh so you mean people can upload with older SDKs even now what you cannot with a recent one ?

[merry pine]

I didnt realize 3.7.6 was even out

[ornate stump]

It's just out minutes ago.

[desert elk]

yup, just got a ping xD

[ornate stump]

Yes. But that'd failed at security check.

[balmy barn]

just out sdk limits pointless since it local anyone with a brain can remove that, security in vrchat you cant bypass

sdk should least say 'this will be nuked' you are way over what security check allow

[merry pine]

So how do I update because my creator companion still says only 3.7.5 exists

[desert elk]

no idea

[somber sequoia]

I just ran vpm add package com.vrchat.worlds but you may not be a vpm user 🙂

[ornate stump]

Just have to hit the refresh button.

[balmy barn]

think av3 hates it , had some issues with it earlier

(beta anyway)

[mint silo]

When I get home anyone wanna help me transfer a head to a body?

[fiery crow]

theres a bunch of tutorials on youtube for something that simple

should probably attempt it first with those guides

[desert elk]

yeah, it's very easy

[mint silo]

I already tried to do it on my own

[desert elk]

what went wrong?

which part are you struggling with?

[desert elk]

I'd do it with cats, quick and easy
Position head, apply all transforms.
Cats > Custom Model Creation > Merge Armature
Fill out the info according to your armature stuff. Base is body, To Merge is head

[balmy barn]

[desert elk]

that's a cute avi

[balmy barn]

since they have a kemono profile pic i just grabbed the head

[desert elk]

ohh I see

[verbal elm]

how do i fix this error?

the red one

[balmy barn]

id drop it into the vram checker and it will have a option (you have no auto wich is odd)

https://github.com/Thryrallo/VRC-Avatar-Performance-Tools that thing, can set texture format very easy

[verbal elm]

i managed to change the setting in build settings but now i havt upload for quest because fml 😭

its saying my file is to big even tho im using the quest avatar

[desert elk]

you can use that same tool to see what takes up the most space and optimize it

the one Thulen linked

[verbal elm]

do you know how to use it? ive never heard of it before :o

[desert elk]

neither have I, but i've seen it mentioned by Thulen multiple times
and apparently it's not that hard to use

[somber sequoia]

it works great, you just drag your avatar into where it says, and expand the textures dropdown, and then you see what's in Thulen's image

[mint silo]

Gimme a sec and I just got home and yeah I've tried with cats

This is what I end up in unity

[proper storm]

poor raruh what did you do to her 😭

[desert elk]

woa

did you put her at world origin in blender and apply transforms?

[mint silo]

Gimme a sec, I'll reply shortly

[proper storm]

yeah it works pretty well

I forgot animating physbones is a bit more wobbly than just an object, but it looks good

[somber sequoia]

I think it looks great really, nice work!

[proper storm]

Thankers

[thick oar]

hello gamers, im trying to import a model, and ive never made a vrc model, but i got the error message "File 'untitled' has animation import warnings. See Import Messages in Animation Import Settings for more details." and idk what to do about it

the model is in fbx and has animations

[proper storm]

What are the import messages?

[thick oar]

they work in the little preview window

[thick oar]

2 seconds

[proper storm]

You might have to repath the animations if ou are gonna use imported ones

I had that issue a bit back

unless you are using vrcfury, you will have to manually repath stuff

[strange dirge]

Hey, I remember hearing about a technique to hide parts of a mesh using something like material tile replace? that might not be the right term, but does anyone know what I'm talking about?

[somber sequoia]

can't scale humanoid bones

[thick oar]

ill be honest i have no clue about any of this and have just been tryin to follow the tutorial on the vrchat website, but if i could get some more direct instructions that would be cool

[night berry]

can anyone help me make MMD work for vrchat

i have shapekeys in japanese, body is called "Body", armature is called "Armature", everything has "write default" on

im confused as whats causing it

[mint silo]

Thats kinda funny that im using the same Kemono avi for the head

[kindred pilot]

You should mayhaps make me a avatar for free

[merry pine]

So apparently it was literally nothing

[somber sequoia]

haha

good one.

[merry pine]

I made a whole new unity project, and just reimported everything, and now it works fine.

[merry pine]

https://tenor.com/view/by-the-nine-im-tweaking-by-the-nine-im-tweaking-signalis-signalis-game-gif-14031434859351507230

I was defeated by evil embed failures

[somber sequoia]

someone should fix my car's oil leak for free too.

[kindred pilot]

If y’all got original femboy avatars that y’all don’t use 😔

[merry pine]

Where is your leak?

[thick oar]

im gonna check out this vrcfury thing

[merry pine]

Valve Cover Gasket? Oil Pan Gasket?

[somber sequoia]

kinda the wrong channel for this

[merry pine]

Fly wheel?

lol

[proper storm]

Its good for beginners, I still recommend you use stock animator first so you know whats going on

it helps and saves much setup time

it isnt good for avatars with lots of complex stuff, but for simple stuff like clothing toggles and such, its perfectly fine to use

I dont recommend using it with modular avatar though, that is just for setting up clothing, but vrcfury can do the same, and they dont mesh very well together, its either one or the other, both are very good plugins

bugs

[thick oar]

what does stock animator do then

[proper storm]

it is this, vrc does backend work with it and makes it all automatic, manually making toggles means using this

[thick oar]

i see i see

thanks

[balmy barn]

once it breaks (randomly) people get stumped since they never even made a simple toggle

[proper storm]

this is vrcfury (you attach the component to a empty object (or the clothes))

vrcfury just makes them for you automatically as I said

[pine valley]

Is there a popular "dummy" avatar for use in demo scenes?

maybe something like that VRChat robot

[proper storm]

it always seems to break when you dont have the animation pathed properly

which is something people dont know about

(i didnt)

i got stuck on it for a whole day until I sat down and learned how to use hfcRed

[pine valley]

you mean when you don't use Animation Repathing?

yeah, really handy tool

[mint silo]

this is all i see in my cats

[proper storm]

unity feels unusable without it when importing anims

[desert elk]

that means the armature of the head and body must have some bones in common

that are named the same

[pine valley]

Ah -- I see that the robot avatar is bundled with the Avatars SDK

1000 yard stare

[desert elk]

I love that robot

[pine valley]

this'll be perfect

[thick oar]

would you be able to help me in like vc or something? this is all quite a lot

[pine valley]

i just need an avatar that exists

[thick oar]

im a lil stupid

[pine valley]

and i don't have to bundle it with my asset

for that crisp tiny filesize

[proper storm]

im not good at explaining anything help wise, tutorials are much better than what I can do

they are hard to find but there are good ones out there

[mint silo]

hmm alright, i kinda gave up like a few days ago trying to figure this garbage out lol

[desert elk]

look at your armatures

what bones do they have

[pine valley]

I would start out with VRCF toggles. They're great for most basic on/off toggles

[desert elk]

idk what your avatar looks like

[pine valley]

https://vrc.school this site has a great overview of both beginner and advanced topics

[desert elk]

on/off isn't hard to do manually either

[thick oar]

also for some reason i have this in my builder tab, the model doesnt even have 2000 triangles

[mint silo]

if youre not busy i can dm ya

[verbal elm]

idk what to do 😭

[proper storm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-gif-27466237

[pine valley]

this is because the model doesn't have the "Read/Write Enabled" checkbox checked

[proper storm]

there is something called uh

[pine valley]

so the SDK fails to read the model data, and it gets that bogus number

There should be another error talking about this.

[proper storm]

yeah that

[desert elk]

you can send things here, I don't accept dms

[thick oar]

so true

[desert elk]

which one is the head?

[balmy barn]

for a headswap i always remove bones not needed before import/merge , chest/neck/head(everything else under it) < those i keep, rest go byebye

[desert elk]

yeah, I do the same

cause I doubt your head is controlled by the upper legs or something

[blissful mantle]

does anyone know why a bone resets everytime you try to animate it