avatar-help

[weary verge]

Okay

Although that wasn't the file they gave to me I can show you my experience with them if you wanna take a look at it

[finite pecan]

Sure, I think my dm is open

[still shuttle]

Obj files can be imported into blender and exported as an fbx. If you purchased an avatar, you should not have gotten just a .obj file

[finite pecan]

Ah, I'm very uneducated with blender.

[weary verge]

Okay I'm gonna dm you now

[sharp oasis]

two animation questions
First of all, for conditions, is greater than 0 ACTUAL greater than 0? or is it equals or greater than?
If my int == 0, int greater than 0 won't allow through, correct?
My second question is reguarding animations with Loop Time turned off. When a transition enters that animation, it'll play from start to finish, then sit and do nothing until the exit transition conditions are met? Also will it always play to the end before looking at the exit conditions or will it interrupt itself if the conditions are met part way through?
Thanks

[ornate stump]

1. Actually greater, not equal.
2. Animation stops at the end of animation clip.
3. It transition right away once any transition met all the condition. Unless Exit Time is specified.

[sharp oasis]

much appreciated

[fathom fossil]

im making this mario avatar but i needs neck and it doesnt have a neck bone how do i fix

[ornate stump]

Check in the fbx file rig configuration menu.

[fathom fossil]

yea i mean i could make an empty game object for where the neck would be but idk

[sharp oasis]

to have a transition that only has a % chance of working, what would be the best way?
Is there a chance or random feature or should I just have an int with a parameter driver random and then the transition just checks if isgreaterthan % I want

[ornate stump]

Doesn't work. You have to edit to add bone in blender.

[fathom fossil]

i mean will the avatar still work even if i dont map the neck or will it just break

[ornate stump]

You won't be able to upload without the required bones.

[low barn]

Anyone that can help?

Some reason i cant upload my model to VRC (first time)
But im doing everything my 2 friends tell me to do and they say its correct?

When i click the build and publish the progress bar do not come up at all like theirs to :/

Yes im on the right version i litereally have everything in settings as my friends do that can upload same model.

https://gyazo.com/b9904d2aa9e2ca9395c0afa4ceee0072

[junior void]

Youre in prefab mode

You cant upload from there (blue background window)

Top left has a return arrow above the hierarchy to go back to the scene

[low barn]

omg.... I sent fullscreen pictures to my friends and they said NOTHING about that 🥲 And they done models for years are u kidding me. I used 4 hours yesterday on this

[sharp oasis]

it do be like that..

[low barn]

thank you so much tho. Such an easy fix to my many hours of frustration 🥲

[junior void]

If you always only strictly follow tutorials, you wont know. It takes Initiative to try things yourself to find such things out

[low barn]

But its as such important thing 🥲

cause i double click her

i dont drag her in as i just figured u can lol

[junior void]

Im just saying your friends probably never tried that

[low barn]

I feel least one of them knows about the blue bg. He made models for years haha

thank you so much tho ! ❤️

Will head out of the discord again ❤️

[sharp oasis]

How can I make a chance transition between two animations? As in, there's only a 10% chance it transitions to one, and a 10% to another etc

[ornate stump]

What is the rest of 80%?

[misty ridge]

yall why is my mamehinata like this hhh

[ornate stump]

You haven't imported shader package.

[sharp oasis]

Well I want to make an animation that only sometimes happens when I close my fist. So small chance of A, small chance of B, and then rest of the time nothing

[misty ridge]

Shader package?

[ornate stump]

Add parameter driver to fist state and random parameter. And you animate the other thing in another layer depends on the randomized parameter.

[ornate stump]

The package that contain shader the avatar is using.

[sharp oasis]

So I need a Parameter I use to generate the randomness. Okay thanks

[sharp oasis]

now I think about it, couldn't I do it in the same layer?
A wait sate that has the driver in it and that transitions to a check state when I close my fist.
If the percentage is correct, it moves on to the rest, otherwise it goes back to the wait state and generates a new parameter for next time I close my fist

[ornate stump]

You'd have to consider syncing too. You can't drive parameter with randomness to be the same for other player observing you.

Therefore, the solution is random locally by you, then sync randomized parameter to other player, then have them react to the parameter in a different layer.

[sharp oasis]

oooh ok. So randomness is not local, each client generates its own random parameter... I see

So i could have a random generator, and then a "storing" parameter which I copy its value to? The storing one is synced but the generator one is local only.
That would function correctly, right?

That's a lot of parameters just to generate some randomness. I see why it isn't done often

[ornate stump]

It's just one int parameter. Driven and synced.

[sharp oasis]

wait I think I'm missunderstanding something.
So if I create an INT in my parameter VRC Expression Parameters file set to Saved and Synced, then in my FX layer have an animation that drives a random parameter between 0 and 100, that parameter WILL or WON'T be the same for eveyone else??

[ornate stump]

That will. That's how you should do it.

[sharp oasis]

ahokok. I got confused as you mentioned this

I guess that was in case I decided to make it only in my FX Layer's Parameters list?

[ornate stump]

Animator only parameter doesn't sync.

[sharp oasis]

right thanks!

[sharp oasis]

So as long as I used a synced parameter, this would work, right?

[ornate stump]

It should

[sharp oasis]

Random driver in Wait

[ornate stump]

The result should be in a different layer.

[sharp oasis]

Why? I could see it working in one layer, but is there a reason I'm missing?
I admit I mainly do most stuff in single layers..

[ornate stump]

One layer is for driven parameter, another layer is for reacting on the parameter. Remember, consider syncing.

[sharp oasis]

but it is synced though? I've made the parameter in the vrc parameter list

And yes I can do it in two layers without issue, but why is one layer incorrect? Is it a performance thing or just a good practice when making animations like these?

[ornate stump]

Gesture parameter and driven parameter have different syncing speed, so one may arrive at remote player in different order, resulting in incorrect value.

[sharp oasis]

ah I see, so because I'm using my gestureright 0 to generate the RNG parameter, there could be delay?

[ornate stump]

That's the point.

[sharp oasis]

I seee thank you!

[sharp oasis]

If I were doing it differently, lets say, instead of closing my hand it was a radial menu button to generate, this would be fine?

[ornate stump]

Just changing transition condition to the parameter from the menu.

[sharp oasis]

So this in one layer

And this in the other layer, depending on results

[somber sequoia]

you can check that "local only" button if you're syncing this anyway

[sharp oasis]

you both keep mentioning syncing. I'm not taking any steps to sync this other than having the parameter in my VRC Parameters list...

When the parameter is in the list, should I instead have drivers set to be Local???

And only not local only when the parameter exists only in my FX?

[somber sequoia]

according to that bit of help text on the parameter driver

syncing is putting it in the parameters list and checking the synced checkbox. that's all

[sharp oasis]

yeah, so this int is synced

[somber sequoia]

yep

you probably don't need it to be saved though

[sharp oasis]

but I don't quite get why I should set the driver to local only?

[somber sequoia]

maybe it's in the docs, I'm not sure

[sharp oasis]

saved means it stays between worlds right?

I leave things saved out of habit tbh...

[somber sequoia]

between reloads of the avatar, so yes, between worlds too

[sharp oasis]

ah ok

[somber sequoia]

sometimes you don't want things saved.

like say you always want to spawn in with a piece of clothing on, even if you had it off before

(you can imagine this is quite useful in some cases)

[sharp oasis]

ok. Saved keeps info between worlds and switching avatars, but resets when you press the reset avatar button?

[somber sequoia]

reset will reset to the default values

oh I guess that is called reload, I didn't mean to make that part unclear 🙂

[sharp oasis]

considering this avatar is designed to be used and then reset I guess nothing needs to be saved

back to the parameter driver though, from what you are telling me, if a parameter is synced in my vrc params list, I should set the driver to Local Only. Right?

and if it's a parameter that exists only in my FX layer, I should not set it to local only. Right?
What about parameters generated by physbones or contact recievers?

[somber sequoia]

you can also read that text on the parameter driver, I was just pointing it out

[sharp oasis]

So setting local only to ON, will run the driver locally, but the effected synced parameter WILL remain synced for everyone. They simply see the parameter change and not the driver happen?

[somber sequoia]

and the answer to the others is "it depends". if you want it synced, then make it synced

I'm assuming based on context that doing random locally means you don't make other players also generate random numbers then just override that via the synced variable (which certainly will be slightly delayed). With it local you generate the number then that number is synced to other players.

no need to make your friends computers do unnecessary work 🙂

[sharp oasis]

right!

I get it now

quick question reguarding transitions between empty animation states.
I have the yellow warning saying Cannot preview transition, must at least have a motion on either source or destination state.
Is this fine??? Or will it ignore this transition and jam my animation lines?
If so, creating an emty animation or an animation with a missing keyframe (yellow text) fixes this right?

[somber meadow]

That window is to just preview the transition between the states if they both have motions

states with empty motion slots do behave weird exit time (if you have exit time enabled in your transitions), so you could just disable exit time or use a animation with a missing keyframe

[sharp oasis]

I've dissabled exit time and duration so they're instant. Just wanted to make sure it won't be ignored

[silk thorn]

If it's an empty into an empty, it will lock up, from what I remember.

[sharp oasis]

I know if you have no condition or animation, it says it will ignore it

I know of this one

I just give it some exit time

My concern is this one

says can't preview. So it'll work, just wont show the blend between the two animations because there arent animations to blend?

[somber meadow]

yep

[sharp oasis]

cool that's what I wanted to check

I have a bunch of empty states just for logic, I wasn't sure whether I NEEDED empty animations in them or if it was fine.

[hot mica]

can anyone help? im getting this error saying my avatar isnt set to humanoid when it is in the rig settings

[somber meadow]

expand the "Import messages" at the bottom

[sharp oasis]

I may be wrong but I think I've had this before
I think just closing and re-opening unity fixed it for me but it may have been a different error I'm thinking of

[silk thorn]

It's best to check errors before going around them.

[sharp oasis]

I know the vrcsdk sometimes freezes with some errors but reopening unity makes it realize the error was fixed

[somber meadow]

This usually is just 2 objects named the same thing

[hot mica]

aaaaa, its because i have mesh named head as well as a bone

[somber meadow]

yeah

[hot mica]

thank you!

[somber meadow]

I do "Face" for the mesh usually

[silk thorn]

Wait, can you see the future?!

[hot mica]

LOL

[sharp oasis]

we just get used to the common errors haha

[hot mica]

that worked, thank you, i totally forgot

[somber meadow]

I don't think I've seen it be anything else

[silk thorn]

Personally when I name a mesh, I always add suffix like Mesh to it.

[spark walrus]

Hello, I have been trying to make My avatar but every time I upload It. It turns to a bot and Idk how to fix It. And Its A bot for only Quest

[compact dust]

does it tell you that it failed avi inspection or smth like that

[spark walrus]

No

[compact dust]

does it give you any errors?

[spark walrus]

No

So basically For Pc It works but then On Quest It turns to a bot

[compact dust]

are you sure it meets quest reqs

[spark walrus]

Yes

[compact dust]

and that you're uploading it for android and not pc

or both, that works too

[spark walrus]

Yes

[somber sequoia]

maybe show the stats in the SDK's build window, often this happens when the avatar is very very poor

[tidal void]

Hi! What's the best plugin for creating simple outfit toggles?

[timid terrace]

Stop using custom SDKs

[spark walrus]

How do you get Rid of blood born?

[compact dust]

yeah that's not gonna upload to quest anyways, doesnt meet reqs

[somber sequoia]

Yeah there's your problem

[arctic ginkgo]

you can try deleting the package files for it, then you might need to reinstall the SDK. Why are you using bloodborne in the first place?

[somber sequoia]

Probably just copy the contents of your Assets folder into a brand new project, not using it.

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah that might be a better idea tbh

[somber sequoia]

I wouldn't trust that you can cleanly swap to the official SDK after that's been in there

[spark walrus]

Iv'e been useing It for 2 years and My other Friends use It too

[somber sequoia]

it's clearly against the terms of service

[arctic ginkgo]

why? your friends told you to i'm guessing? it is blatantly against the tos. The only reason you'd need it is if you're making malicious avatars or you don't know what you're doing

[compact dust]

prob option 2 for reason

id assume

[spark walrus]

No When I started to make Avis My Friends Teached me how to make it and they gave me Bloodborn

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah so exactly what i said. Well you don't need it and shouldn't use it. Again, it's totally against vrchat's TOS and can get you banned

[timid terrace]

There is also no reason to use it

[arctic ginkgo]

and there's literally no reason to do unless you don't know what you are doing or are intentionally making malicious avatars

[fleet lake]

I'm trying to upload an avatar and its not showing up ingame for some reason even when it shows up on the website, says "uploaded successfully" shows up in the content manager, I'm using the same base I've used for years, don't think I've done anything different besides using a new shader on accessories, tried changing into the avi from the website but it just shows as an error robot ingame, please help

[somber meadow]

What Unity version are you using for the project

[fleet lake]

22.3

[somber meadow]

VRChat is hardcoded to not load Unity AssetBundles that are above Unity 2022.3.22

[fleet lake]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-white-persian-guardian-why-gif-10312546

[somber meadow]

Your issue sounds like you're using a higher Unity version than what's recommended

https://creators.vrchat.com/sdk/upgrade/current-unity-version

[fleet lake]

Ive been using this version just fine though ;-;

[somber meadow]

could you send an output log of a game session with you loading the avatar as an error? Press Windows Key + R, paste in %localappdata%low\VRChat\VRChat, click OK, and send the latest log file in this channel

if you are using Unity 2022.3.22 for the project^

[fleet lake]

2022.3.30f1

should I go back to 2019?

[desert elk]

no

use 2022.3.22f1

this is the version vrchat uses

it's on the website

[fleet lake]

alright ill do that thank you

[fleet lake]

also ill try to do this

[somber meadow]

a log won't be needed anymore since you used a higher Unity version

[fleet lake]

ah oki

[somber meadow]

the SDK will load and work properly since it's just a bugfix version, but the game client is hardcoded to not load the bundle

[narrow path]

Is a here who speak german ? I need help with a Avatar 🙈 and have many questions

[junior void]

Nach dms zu fragen ist hier sehr gewagt

[lusty thunder]

So I'm trying to get into 3d modeling my own personal avatars for VRc but I'm a standalone user. I have gravity sketch, but no PC so I can't use blender. Can anyone think of any solution for standalone?

[somber sequoia]

you'd need to run Unity to upload an avatar to VRChat, so you'll need a PC (or mac)

[compact dust]

unless you send it to someone else to do the unity part

not recommended (imo)

[narrow yoke]

Im trying to set up eye tracking "Correctly" for the first time in the many years ive had eye tracking,
I know I have to use the 'Additive' layer to animate humanoid bones (IE eye bones) but if I have the eye bones assigned in the rig config for the avatar, I still cant animate them, as soon as I remove the eye bones from the rig I can animate them on the FX layer just fine.

[narrow path]

Ok , kannst du mir eventuell weiterhelfen ? Wollte ein Avatar erstellen , hab auch 2 Avatare , ein von Daz Studio und ein von Vroid , und wie bekomme ich diese in VR Chat rein ?

[narrow yoke]

Is unity weird and not allow the same animations to be used for humanoid bones as for "non humanoid" bones??

[junior void]

Es gibt mehrere video tutorials auf youtube die dir zeigen wie man vroids in vrchat avatare umbaut. Wichtig ist das format, was für vrc fbx sein sollte. Sobald du das hast, kannst du dir ein ganz normales setup tutorial zum thema vrchat sdk ansehen.

[narrow path]

ok versuche es dann mal 😉 danke

[somber sequoia]

huh I don't really speak German but I know enough that I got much of that. context helps of course.

[sharp oasis]

is gesture fist (1) the same as weight 100?
I'm having unexpected results with some grab zones ingame and was just wondering, because Gesure Manager sets weight to 100 wehn you click the fist test for example

[somber sequoia]

gesture weight tells how tight your fist is, when gesture = 1

depends on controllers usually

[sharp oasis]

oohh.... I've built this wrong lol

what parameter is trigger pull?

[somber sequoia]

generally none

i.e. you can't detect that specifically

[sharp oasis]

wait but like... tonge out and eye closed animations are often on trigger pull

that's gesture weight

[somber sequoia]

really depends on what your controller does

[sharp oasis]

now I think about it, I don't think I've ever had the squeeze work in vrchat animations. Only for grabbing physbones and stuff

[cinder flare]

Hi all, is there any way to make the controller haptic buzz when touching part of an avatar? Like booping a nose etc.

[somber meadow]

Avatar Touch Haptics is a setting in game

[cinder flare]

I mean for a specific part of an avatar, not just when touching any part of someone

for instance, if I press my own nose, it would be good to have my controller buzz

[compact dust]

idk, but itd be a contact of some sort

[somber meadow]

They'd need that option on either way

[fresh cliff]

anyone know how to get unity 2018.4.20f1 working on a raspberry pi 5

does it work on arm computers

[somber sequoia]

that's a weird version to be asking about here

[desert elk]

yup

[somber sequoia]

but if you look in their download archives, it'll be there if available. I would be surprised though

[quartz spade]

hm, i tried it again still no luck unfortunately

[proper storm]

I somehow managed to do this with trying to fix my avi stuck in the animation pose in editor and my armature isnt lined up anymore in play mode now

[somber sequoia]

Pumkin's tools has a way to reset that

[proper storm]

lmao

[proper storm]

can you give repository link?

[somber sequoia]

if you search for that exact spelling it should come up

(it's what I'd need to do anyway)

[proper storm]

Alright ill try

[naive obsidian]

• Github: https://github.com/rurre/PumkinsAvatarTools
• VPM Repo: https://rurre.github.io/vpm/

[fair mirage]

i dont know if this is something anyone here can help with but im having this issue where some edges marked as sharp become detached in unity, any idea if its fixable? i couldnt really find anything on google but im also just bad at searching on google lol. just splitting the edges instead of marking as sharp has the same effect

if i increase the scale of the object in unity the gaps become smaller, but exporting the fbx at a bigger size then scaling it down just brings the issue back, same for exporting at a smaller size and scaling up. i guess its just some floating point error thing, but its visible in game so i would like to fix it if possible... obviously i cant upload a gigantic avatar

[naive obsidian]

Could be duplicate vertices. Merging by distance would be my first fix attempt

[fair mirage]

thats what sharp edges does. if i dont have them marked as sharp it looks terrible because it all becomes smoothed out

[naive obsidian]

Sharp edges duplicates vertices?

[fair mirage]

yes

im like 99% sure atleast

theres no duplicate vertices there in blender but its impossible for this to happen without duplicate vertices

[naive obsidian]

I could very well be wrong, but I thought that marking an edge as sharp changed the normals to adjust how it appears under shading

[fair mirage]

thats what i thought too, but looking around online i read somewhere that it just duplicates the vertices

when exporting i mean

[naive obsidian]

Hmm... Not that I've used the sharp modifier all that much, but I've never seen this quirk in my own work when exporting

Very strange

[fair mirage]

yeah its my first time seeing it too, but ive barely used sharp edges before

the vertices should have the exact same position so no clue why it ends up like this

guess i could try filling up the hole with an outline to make it less visible but an actual fix would be nice

[mental sparrow]

Is it normal to have building an avatar take long

i just got new user so

[fair mirage]

it can take a while depending on what youve got going on on your avatar

[mental sparrow]

Alr ty

[austere bay]

is there any reason my older avatars are now error bots? (they're from about 2-3 years ago if that helps)

[compact dust]

probably because the limitations were lowered

idk if the pc ones were, i think the quest ones were (i might be wrong tho)

[balmy barn]

rip 500mb avatars

[compact dust]

rip my like 1.2gb avi

not actually.

i think it was like 1.2m vertices or smth like that

[austere bay]

it's a pc avatar, 18mb

[compact dust]

idk.

[austere bay]

rip </3

[fair mirage]

im actually having that too with avatars that were definitely not over 500mb, but those are sdk2.0 avis so i think its more likely because of that lol. still a bit weird that some are broken but some arent

[compact dust]

probably smth about the older sdk/unity version

but not my field of expertise

all i know is physbones.

[austere bay]

vrchat being vrchat i guess

[fair mirage]

like i have older avatars that arent broken but newer ones that are? its kinda weird but well shrug. kinda sad to see my ancient avatars gone but it is what it is, if i cared that much id update them lol

[austere bay]

it shouldn't really happen, a game as big as vrchat shouldn't be having issues like this icl :/

[fair mirage]

in your case it is pretty weird yeah

[compact dust]

i dont really see it as an issue if they update their limitations, version of software, etc

i mean it's not like its hard to update avis

[austere bay]

idk, I don't think some of mine are over the limitation which is why I'm confused?

I can't see any limitation that my avatar has gone over

[compact dust]

not necessarily the 'limitations' that would be the reason

could just be older version of unity too

[austere bay]

which is what im saying shouldn't be a big issue for a game as big as vrchat

[compact dust]

its not an issue if they use two completely different versions of a software tho

[austere bay]

if they're updating unity versions they should try to make sure things are cross compatible

[fair mirage]

if it is a 3.0 avatar (and i am assuming it is) it should generally be compatible afaik

[pastel nacelle]

Hello!
Does anyone know why an Armature that has all its transforms to 0° in Blender mysteriously has a -89.98° Rotation out of nowhere once put in Unity?

I tried to :

• Apply Transforms on everything
• Export using different settings including the experimental "Apply Transform" option

Nothing is fixing it; as soon as I put my .fbx into Unity it gets a rotation value making it impossible to merge with anything else.

[compact dust]

thats normal

at least for some things

idk things i've put into unity have had that too but it didnt rlly do anything

[feral dagger]

vrchat gets mad at me for using materals in my avatar?

how do i fix this?

what am i suppost to do

have my whole avatar be 1 color?!?!

[compact dust]

is it for quest?

[feral dagger]

yes

[compact dust]

you have to combine materials

less meshes/less mats

smth like that

[pastel nacelle]

Well I'm happy it didn't do any problems for you but for me it makes it impossible to merge with anything unless I reput the whole avatar in Blender which I'm trying to avoid.
Can't merge 2 armature that has different rotation.

[compact dust]

does it not let you change it back to 0?

[pastel nacelle]

If I change it back to zero then the item moves.. ^^

[compact dust]

its a rotation

[pastel nacelle]

Yes, and editing a rotation value on an item makes it.. ..rotate.

[compact dust]

uhuh

but if its 0 then would it not reset it so that it could merge?

[feral dagger]

????

[torpid cliff]

hey does anyone have a fix for when I go to Build & Test or Build & Publish it gets stuck on building avatar step with little cpu/memory usage?

[compact dust]

1 texture instead of 2

that kinda thing

[pastel nacelle]

Maybe it's easier to understand like this..
Which is why I'm trying to export without that weird -89.98° coming out of nowhere because my current avatar Armature Rotation is 0° so it doesn't match.

[compact dust]

can you use smth like modular avatar to attach it?

[pastel nacelle]

I can solve this many different ways including just putting back everything to Blender and exporting it as a whole; my question is more about why this is happening.
Was wondering if anyone knew 😛

[compact dust]

it happens bc unity / blender :D

[desert elk]

yup

I found one fix online but idk if it's recommended to do xd

[compact dust]

sometimes they just kaplooey

[desert elk]

it's because unity's xyz aren't the same as blender's

I think

[compact dust]

makes more sense than "unity/blender kaboom"

[desert elk]

haha yeah

[plucky bridge]

Uploading an avatar for a friend for quest, it is 10.04 MB

What and how do I lower it by .04 MB to upload it?

[compact dust]

lower the vertices in blender?

that'd probably be enough

[desert elk]

lower texture size

[compact dust]

or that

[desert elk]

in unity

yup

[plucky bridge]

How

[proper storm]

anim doesnt play in play mode?

maybe I have the order wrong?

[compact dust]

i mean its playing some sort of anim, bc it doesnt pop into existence but comes down

weird

[proper storm]

Yeah idgi

It worked on another project

[sharp oasis]

After stretching a physbone, there's now a large long area where it can be grabbed from.
Is there a way or workaround to make only the tip grabbable and not the length of the bone?

[compact dust]

dont believe so

i think it'd have to be a seperate script

[proper storm]

the anims plays for the whole avi despite me editting just the cone transform

[buoyant thorn]

is there any prefab thing that helps u check what is taking the mb in the avatar

[compact dust]

actually unless you change the heirarchy to make the tip not part of it

but im not sure

[sharp oasis]

look up Thry's Avatar VRAM Calculator

its super useful

[hazy sphinx]

ok i have a propper skeleten, all me bones are named, how do i paint properly?

[main fiber]

I keep getting this error when i upload

[compact dust]

the places that bend have the heaviest painting if im not mistaken

you can also use autoweight painting to get an idea

[sharp oasis]

your best bet is to look up a tutorial for weight painting as it's a lot of small steps. Or look up how to auto paint

[compact dust]

auto i believe is select the mesh, then the armature (at the same time) then ctrl p to select auto paint
and then select the mesh and shift tab, weight painting

i may be wrong

[plucky bridge]

How doth one lower texture size in unity and with what/where?

[desert elk]

click on the textire

should be in the inspector

somewhere

I don't have my laptop open I can't screenshot

[compact dust]

textire 🥺 ❤️

[sharp oasis]

At the bottom

[desert elk]

shhh

yeah, there

[desert elk]

big fingers okay 😭

physbone fingers

[compact dust]

too much weight painting

[desert elk]

unfortunately

[plucky bridge]

I assume it's the same if it's quest? I see the andriod symbol there so I'm assumig yes

[sharp oasis]

yes

[proper storm]

when making anims for objects, not related to the avatar, do I still have to create an animation on the avatar or just the object?

[hazy sphinx]

this keeps happening?

[proper storm]

Now no anim plays when I toggle, lol

[sharp oasis]

you can do global change, or if you want like high quality on PC and low on Quest, you can do them separately

[compact dust]

just object i think

[desert elk]

you'd need to merge the FX layers anyways, so I don't think it matters (idk how it works with vrcfury though, so don't have my word for it)

[cloud ore]

Hello.
If I add audiolink to a poiyomi shader, shall I add a toggle to make it turnable off? If so is there any way to animate the shader parameter or the only way to do that is to separate the audiolink into a new material and animate the material?

[compact dust]

yeah there is

vrcf has a material toggle section i believe

or when you create an animation, press the red record button and press the on button for the audiolink

that should work

[cloud ore]

Aha, so effectively we can animate material parameters. Great, thanks!

[compact dust]

yeppers

[proper storm]

I figured it out, I made a parent so I had a pivot to scale the cone from, but the animation doesnt play when I animate the cone when its organized like this

anyway to fix that??

it doesnt work when I give it a parent but by itself, I can animate it and it will render

(i just gave the prefab FISH CONE a parent)

[primal swift]

guys i'm dumb why is it darker

[tall dock]

Question, how could I add extra arms?

[tall dock]

I tried cutting the arms mesh and duplicating it on blender but It doesn't work much good to be honest, I would love some input u.u"

[somber sequoia]

that's pretty much how - though you'd need to duplicate bones also and rig them to the second set of bones

[tall dock]

Oh damn

Should I make them a separate mesh? Because withouth unifying them into the main body with merging vertices I think whenever I move them It would leave a hole

[somber sequoia]

I'd merge them at some point, yeah

[quasi folio]

Uh, how do I somehow disable these backfaces?

[inland pumice]

how do i fix these blocky hair?

[somber sequoia]

no real reason to have body parts separate

[tall dock]

Alright alright, well first then duplicate and put in the right places the mesh

Then duplicate arm bones and put em in the new arms

And only after rigging unify the meshes

[somber sequoia]

Sure. Then in Unity, do rotation constraints to the main arms, or some other animations

[tall dock]

Yeah, ty once again for your help!! i may come back cause of rigging but we'll see u.u"

[quasi folio]

-# Gruah‼️‼️

[somber sequoia]

it's not clear which faces you mean are backfaces? but maybe make sure your face orientation is right in Blender and make sure backface culling is off in your shader

[quasi folio]

I’m using the quest shader, which doesn’t let me operate the back faces

[somber sequoia]

oh, then they wouldn't be showing anyway, so I'm not sure what parts you mean

[feral dagger]

why does my animation onlywork in preview but not play testing

[quasi folio]

In Unity, the abdomen piece has clear back faces showing, not sure how I’d describe it

[somber sequoia]

kinda looks like flipped face normals

[quasi folio]

Any idea how I’d fix that?

[trim tiger]

is there a way to make a physbone only grabbable on one specific child of that physbone? having spazzing issues on subsequent bones past a certain child

[somber sequoia]

in Blender make sure the outside is outside, and if not, select the wrong face, then "flip" in the mesh -> normals menu

one of the view overlays is "face orientation" - blue = front, red = back

[trim tiger]

guess that's a no then

[inland pumice]

do i need to edit something in blender?

[trim tiger]

are you using the correct hair texture for that

it looks like it's a plane-based hair

which usually uses transparent textures on square planes to create shape

[inland pumice]

how do i use the transparent texture?

[trim tiger]

do you

have

the transparent texture

[inland pumice]

yes

[trim tiger]

then you should be able to just use that texture with any shader that has access to Cutout

OR if it uses an alpha mask

[inland pumice]

ok i´ll try it

[trim tiger]

use that instead

if you have an alpha mask, use the alpha mask

if you don't, then there's alpha already cooked into the texture, which means cutout's your guy

if that's not it either then it means you're kinda fucked and need to go into blender because your texture isn't the one meant for that hair

so you'll need to cut the shapes into the hair planes instead

[somber sequoia]

I don't think you can do that, but you might try making a curve for the radius and shrinking it everywhere you don't want it grabbale.

[feral dagger]

i love ALL the great help im getting here /s /vu

[iron badger]

At my wits end with a avatar I wanna upload, what does this mean?

[somber sequoia]

entitled much?

[desert elk]

you need to pick one way to install go go loco

either vrcfury and delete the layers from your avatar

or leave the layers and delete the vrcfury prefab

[mental sparrow]

so its taken hours and i cant publish an avatar cuz its taking too long to build this normal?

[trim tiger]

can't you still grab 0 radius physbones

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure without testing, but I was thinking it might make them harder to grab

[trim tiger]

wouldn't fix my issue

my issue is i have a Funny Stick™️

grabbing the middle of the Funny Stick™️ works just fine

however, for some ungodly reason, whenever i try to grab the Funny Whacking Stick™️ past the midpoint, the physbone SHAKES ANGRILY

so making the front half harder to grab doesn't really fix the issue

obviously the real solution would be figuring out why my funny whacking stick for hitting people with is angry with its own existence if you dare touch it past the mid point

but i've no fuckin clue on how to do that

[somber meadow]

Alright, I thought you were talking about something entirely different for the past 6 messages

[trim tiger]

no blanke i am not in fact talking about what you think i'm talking about

it is a Funny Floppy Stick™️ meant for whacking people over the head

but the flop isn't really as fun when half of it isn't usable for grabbing and flopping around angrily

because instead of flopping it fuckin ksp krakens

ah. okay. i found the issue

i accidentally created a duplicate bone

which was causing the physbone to make an infinitely small physbone between them

which, from my experience, REALLY do not like to exist

[inland pumice]

is that the transparent hair texture?

[trim tiger]

that's the alpha mask

[inland pumice]

it kinda looks like it

[trim tiger]

the alpha mask tells the shader what to cut out of the texture

you use the alpha mask in conjuction with the hair texture

[tall dock]

Duplicated bones, and meshes and made them separate armatures just in case, now how do I rig because I tried with ctrl + P and automatic weights but nothing

[inland pumice]

where should i put that?

[compact dust]

try #avatar-rigging

[tall dock]

Alr alr, ty

[trim tiger]

Alpha Map

hair texture goes in Texture

alpha map goes in Alpha Map

fuck with the cutoff until happy

if unhappy kill god

(twice)

[inland pumice]

okay thanks, i´m sorry for asking simple things, i´m new to that stuff xD

[trim tiger]

it's all good

[feral dagger]

OH SO IM ENTITLED FOR WAITING 30 MINS AND NOBODY HELPING ME AND IF i didnt say anything my question would be drowned out in the chat

[trim tiger]

it's better to ask simple things and take simple answers than be an incompetent dimwit for 5 days straight who can't read "inspector" on the right

when told to click on the obvious button in the inspector tab

[trim tiger]

you are not entitled to help

[compact dust]

wuts goin on ._.

[trim tiger]

some guy's freaking out cause no one came to help him within 2 minutes

[inland pumice]

hahaha

[compact dust]

wat the heck is /vu

[trim tiger]

as if putting a question here's some kind of SUMMONING RITUAL for an experienced avatar creator

and not just a gamble that someone who knows how to fix your issue is around to tell you

[feral dagger]

im mean you'd THINK THAT IF YOU ASKED A question in the help section you would get help, or am i wrong?!

[compact dust]

google helps too

[trim tiger]

yes

but if no one answered that means the people who know how to fix your issue aren't around yet

blame timezones and very few people being actually literate in Unity Bullshit™️

[compact dust]

the tm 😭

[somber sequoia]

yeah I was wondering that too

[trim tiger]

hey at least it's not the Udon Tumbledryer®️ where it just picks you up and throws you against the fucking wall over and over

[compact dust]

yeah i know nothing abt udon, not gonna try

[trim tiger]

y u p

[compact dust]

unity and blender are enough

[trim tiger]

anyways @feral dagger if i saw your question correctly you're having optimization issues?

[feral dagger]

https://www.textline.com/blog/tone-indicator-list https://toneindicators.carrd.co

[trim tiger]

ip grabber

mods kill him

shoot him with every gun we have

[desert elk]

??

[trim tiger]

common joke regarding random links to unknown websites

[desert elk]

AHH I see

[compact dust]

bro really needed a whole document to explain that vu means very upset

[somber sequoia]

yeah I didn't click

[desert elk]

neither did i

sketchy

[trim tiger]

me on my way to use an abstract tone indicator instead of just saying i'm miffed with my current circumstances

strifed even

nay, bewildered at the sheer lack of aid in this barren land

[compact dust]

pullin out all the old english

back to jeff model

[somber meadow]

Unfortunately, you're not entitled to anything here. You shouldn't expect everything to go your way

[trim tiger]

yet so flourishing with life despite the clear unabundance of assistance at my particular peril

[somber meadow]

Let people get to you if they choose, no one here is obligated to help. This place is just user-to-user support

[trim tiger]

doubtless, i am to yell at the king's peasants

for they will surely listen to my pleas if i yell insultingly enough

nay, pray tell, i know not what is wrong with my approach

[hollow bronze]

anyone know why some of my old avatars are now failed, or failed security checks?

[desert elk]

properly because of lowered limits

[compact dust]

the old avi fails is weird cus ive yet to see anyone say anything abt it until today

[desert elk]

it's been happening since the limit was lowered

[compact dust]

havent seen anyone say anything abt it

[desert elk]

people just didn't notice at first

[hollow bronze]

any way to fix it?

[desert elk]

reupload the avatar

with lower mb

[hollow bronze]

damn....

[compact dust]

upload it using new unity version, probably within the new limits

[desert elk]

that fits the new limit

[compact dust]

well i doubt you need the new unity version

[desert elk]

I noticed cause I was hopping avatar worlds and avatars that were fine before now turned into the failed ones

[hollow bronze]

the creator does uploads only to accounts, and they are not gonna reupload my edited version

[desert elk]

you kinda do if you wanna upload (at least to my knowledge)

[compact dust]

does it not work anymore w/ old?

[desert elk]

I'm not sure

[compact dust]

i thought it does since they still have the 2017 on the vcc

[desert elk]

2019

[compact dust]

2008

[timber wharf]

cause server side checks change.

[desert elk]

If you didn't upload it yourself you can't fix it

if I'm understanding the message correctly

[timber wharf]

@compact dust anything goes, just in new one itd warn you

[compact dust]

yeppers

[compact dust]

2017 cus i was thinking of a unity tutorial about spinning

i member

[desert elk]

I see

[compact dust]

i digress

[hollow bronze]

yeaa..im choppeddd

[compact dust]

did you know jeff the landshark has toe beans

[hollow bronze]

also anyone know what to do with like vrc input lag

[timber wharf]

@hollow bronze if it gets security check failed, it wasnt supposed to exist in the first place, embrace it and move on.

[compact dust]

are you doing quest connected to pc?

[inland pumice]

@trim tiger i´m so thankful, i just learned a new thing. i tried so much things to fix it TYSMM<33

[hollow bronze]

move on. i get the gist buddy. the avatars an old avatar and i used it for 2 years straight

[hollow bronze]

yeah quest 3 airlinked to my pc

[timber wharf]

@hollow bronze doesnt mean it wasnt trash🤷‍♂️

[compact dust]

id assume thats why

[hollow bronze]

?

[desert elk]

airlink can be pretty weak sometimes

[compact dust]

instead of pinging just reply to bro

[desert elk]

XD

[hollow bronze]

ive used airlink this way for 4 years and have only had minor problems

[compact dust]

maybe smth with internet then?

[hollow bronze]

grow up my guy. i asked for help and got my answer. if youre not gonna help then dont @ me

[compact dust]

buddy's just saying your avatar is bad 😔

never believe the avi haters

[timber wharf]

@hollow bronze i said you the exact answer, then you be like "was fine for two years", it was not, it just was not tracked properly.

[hollow bronze]

yeah the minor issues ive had before was the same thing and it was with me being on my 2.4 wifi instead of 5.0 and it fixed it, im connected to 5.0 which is where im confused. but ill experiment more on this ty

[compact dust]

yeah smt its just a little slow

[hollow bronze]

" @timber wharf "okay thank you for your input, youre very helpful thx thx

[timber wharf]

@hollow bronze your welcome

[hollow bronze]

if i could send a gif i would

[compact dust]

you're 🤓

[hollow bronze]

damn

[desert elk]

not nice

[hollow bronze]

my fauly

aint mean to yell guys

[hollow bronze]

i was going to send this emoji too lmfao (in all caps)

[compact dust]

anyways
anybody need avi help 🥺

[proper storm]

Does anyone know how to make radial menu with a blendshape, with vrcfury

[hollow bronze]

theres ur answerr^

[compact dust]

i think you can make a radial and then select what you want to change

not sure, i only use vrcf for normal toggles

[hollow bronze]

typing the declaration of independance ive almost lost interest

[proper storm]

fuck unity

okay it just works

[compact dust]

poor unity

[proper storm]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

😭

[trim tiger]

no problemo, love helping people

[hollow bronze]

dam alex...he got you too, no yelling

[desert elk]

we all feel that way sometimes

[proper storm]

hate unity

[compact dust]

what is this guy typing

[timber wharf]

@compact dust better than being you, your posts completely out of place half of a time, learn stuff or dont comment and use it as a chance to learn when you have no idea what youre talking about, you act as an ai network that tries to provide an answer despite being clueless.

[desert elk]

...

[proper storm]

I dont get why it didnt work 2 seconds ago and now it does

unity moment...

[compact dust]

you took way too long to type that

[desert elk]

was that really necessary?

[timber wharf]

@compact dust ye, typos

[hollow bronze]

XDD

[compact dust]

you missed some words tho

or at least 1

also im not clueless

i have unity specialties

kinda

[hollow bronze]

i mean eli and michstan helped me more than you...sooo..

[compact dust]

hi

[hollow bronze]

you just recycled what they said and added an insult

[timber wharf]

@hollow bronze helped you how

your stuff was fixed?

[compact dust]

"the problem could be etc."
not "your avatar is trash"

[hollow bronze]

they helped me understand WHY my avi was "fixed" numbnuts

[desert elk]

instead of telling them "f yourself, your Avi sucked" we explained why it got security checks

[hollow bronze]

also told me how to fix the issue not to mention

[desert elk]

and not the "it was never meant to exist" that's not how it works

[compact dust]

my nose itches

[hollow bronze]

itch it

[compact dust]

no.

[timber wharf]

@compact dust i never said "your", i guess whole problem was about avi not being their

[desert elk]

VRC lowered their limits and that's what caused some avatars to turn into security check robots. It's not the case of "improper tracking"

[desert elk]

which is something that I explained btw 😉

[compact dust]

it was a paraphrase 💀

[desert elk]

exactly

[hollow bronze]

i was already helped and was on a whole different subject before you even tried to help XD

[rustic creek]

Weird question but when I’m in gesture manager my avatars clothes aren’t attached to its body, any suggestions?

[compact dust]

man im just tryna make my jeff model

[desert elk]

what method did you use to attach them?

unity, blender?

[compact dust]

they could be connected to the wrong bones, armature not setup correctly, etc

couple things

[desert elk]

yup

[hollow bronze]

honorable. ur cooler than me ngl

[compact dust]

<3

[rustic creek]

Ahhh thank you 🙏🙏

[hollow bronze]

well thank you for helping again and ill leave TheMostLeast helpful person in your guys hands, good luck lol

[compact dust]

you could try a tool called Modular Avatar, thats what i use to connect clothing

[hollow bronze]

@compact dust also if the internet thing doesnt work in a little bit when i try it, i will seek aid

[compact dust]

works with full sets better than small stuff

[rustic creek]

:o

OHHHH

yes I definitely need that

thank you!!

[compact dust]

it has a button that just attaches everything, and can make toggles

[hollow bronze]

good luck luciii

[compact dust]

although i reccommend vrcf for toggles

[rustic creek]

Thank you!!

[rustic creek]

This I do have,,

[compact dust]

yeah its kinda a basic need, but if you didnt know they did toggles too is wim

[desert elk]

I wouldn't call it a basic need tbh 🤷

it's helpful if you don't know how toggles work

but not a basic need

[mossy jacinth]

anyone know what causes an avatar to have randomly laggy locomotion animations

its got the default locomotion animation set

[rustic creek]

Should I only put modular avatar on my project or add the other 2 that came with it as well?

[muted night]

Is it possible to Multiply the Throwing Force of the VRLabs Rigidbody-Throw prefab? I want to be able to send the object across a room rather than limply dropping it in front of me. I also don't want to piss missle the thing IRL, risking me throwing my controller too

[compact dust]

i only use modular, but idk what other 2 you mean

gtg tho so

[mental sparrow]

-w-

[proud tusk]

this one logo keeps goin' upside down and I don't know why

[somber sequoia]

Probably the UV island needs flipping

assuming it's not its own material or decal that you can work with in unity

[proper storm]

What do I make anims off objects for? Im making a contact receiver on a pipe to make a sound but it doesnt wanna play in the play mode despite the parameter being 1

The sound doesnt go active when the parameter is true weidly

[mossy jacinth]

I somehow fixed it by moving the bounding box above the avatars origin, putting this here incase someone comes across the same issue

[lapis terrace]

How to make more girly popping cute? I added hair and made face disproportionately small.

Front

[proper storm]

How does the exit time and fixed duration work in the animator?

[somber sequoia]

Unity docs are pretty good for stuff like this:
https://docs.unity3d.com/2022.3/Documentation/Manual/class-Transition.html

[proper storm]

Yeah I was looking

its a bit complicated

[somber sequoia]

yep

[inland pumice]

i have a question, my avi works perfectly but on the quest version the texture under the hat is invisible and you can see trough, how do i fix it?

[somber sequoia]

Create faces that face that direction, you can't use double-side rendering on quest. You could simply duplicate the existing ones and flip them. In Blender of course.

[inland pumice]

oh okay

i think thats too hard for me, i just leave it like this

[marble pagoda]

Can anyone give me some pointers on what I am doing wrong here? I have an object on my right hand that has a position constraint so I can freeze it in the world and then pick it back up again with a simple toggle. I also only want this object to be able to rotate around the vertical axis ie it should always stay parallel to the floor. I tried also adding a rotation constraint with the X and Z frozen and then I referenced an object outside the scene as my source similar to the world origin trick. The object both in may hand and when dropped in the world is still able to rotate in all directions based on the orientation of my hand. Thoughts? Thank you!

[proud tusk]

how do I flip it?

[somber sequoia]

select face, then in menus: mesh -> normals -> flip

(normals is also alt-n)

[compact dust]

i think that moving the hair down could help more (could just be me)

[late heath]

ive uploaded before but im both extremely new to modelling and avatar creation, and ive tried a few things but i cant seem to get the cord of this tail to line up with the microphone when i use physbones. i dont know what to do, i dont think i messed up any weight painting since it bends as intended in blender

[torpid cliff]

my avatar is still trying to build after 4 hours. what am i doing wrong? there are no errors in the console either

[compact dust]

could be mesh? not sure

ive had an avi do this but never figured out a fix

[late heath]

ive done an avatar with a tail with a similar shape before and found no issues so i dont have any clue how this one is causing me a problem 😭

[somber sequoia]

is that microphone a separate mesh object than the tail?

[late heath]

it is a seperate object but i did try to combine them together at one point and it didnt work

[somber meadow]

You're in a prefab scene, click the back arrow on the hierarchy and drag the prefab into the hierarchy instead of double clicking it

[somber sequoia]

ok if it's a separate object, the weight paint on the vertices that touch needs to be perfectly matched or it'll move differently. Personally I'd join it.

[late heath]

ill see if i can join them and adjust the mesh itsself

[torpid cliff]

K I'll try that

[inland pumice]

i have a problem with the mouth, in unity is the mouth closed but in vrchat its open

[torpid cliff]

it instantly worked thanks!

[inland pumice]

my mic is muted btw

[somber sequoia]

unmap the jaw bone in the rig setup unless you're using it for speaking

[compact dust]

everytime i see you ask for help its a different avi lol

so many

[fresh cliff]

i clicked bc im a rebel

i live on the edge

im edging

[somber sequoia]

you're edgy? I hear that's what the kids these days are

[fresh cliff]

im an edgelord

[late heath]

ive tried just joining them together and that didnt work, then i tried to kind of piece the edges together and that kind of worked but the tail is still disconnected it just brings the faces with it

[fresh cliff]

idk why i decided to use a raspberry pi as a main desktop but here we are

[somber sequoia]

you'll definitely have to do some weight painting no matter what - this image makes it clear you didn't 🙂

[somber sequoia]

definitely edgy

[ruby summit]

im optimizing my avatar so i might need help with something later, any tip btw?

[somber sequoia]

watch many tutorials 🙂

[ruby summit]

my avatar is like 300mb rn, i deleted some accesories i dont rlly use and now im lowering textures

and most animations too

idk why most of my avatar has duplicated items now

like 2 shirts etc

[fiery crow]

animations arent really much of a worry honestly

[late heath]

it should be? idk if i did anything wrong but straight after i adjusted the planes i went back in and weightpainted it again, it still bends as intended in blender

[fiery crow]

id focus on ur mesh memory, texture memory and drawcalls

remove unused UVMaps, unused vertex groups, bones, meshes, delete overly fine geometry like mesh chains

lower textures, learn how to do packed texture workflows for ur mats, like rgba masking and global masks

u can use Thry's Avatar Performance Tools to see what textures take up the biggest size and same with meshes on ur avi

[ruby summit]

well now im having a trouble with VRCFury

idk if u guys can help with this too since its out of vrc commong things

i think my avatar broke

so im gonna start over

nope, my avatar somehow kinda broke i think

most of his clothes are duplicated

also, how do i unlink an avatar (as an example, i duplicated my avatar, but when exporting that new avatar, it exports like the old one)

see

[somber sequoia]

wow I see why that's so big

[ruby summit]

idk why, it wasnt like this last time i checked

it randomly decided to duplicate all

now idk wich one to delete since i cant enter play mode

[fiery crow]

ur fbx is still "generic"?

[ruby summit]

where do i check that

[fiery crow]

go to ur fbx model in the assets folder and go to the inspector

[ruby summit]

ok checking some of my parts of the avatar, most duplicates have a red texture

[fiery crow]

to set the rig type to humanoid

[ruby summit]

ye its generic

[late heath]

went back in and redid the weight painting on the tail completely either way and the issue still persists in unity

[somber sequoia]

that doesn't seem unreasonable from that pic

[arctic ginkgo]

if the weight painting is fine in blender but not unity, i'm thinking either

1. your bones are somehow in the wrong position
2. you have too many vertex groups assigned to some vertices (can't have more than 4)

try using pumkin's avatar tools to reset the pose of your avatar

[somber sequoia]

I keep forgetting about #2, good thought

[agile birch]

so i managed to get seat working on my avatar but everytime my friends sit on the seat, they're always way above the seat prompt button and the 3d cube to help me see also makes them be floating when seated, how do i align it properly?, @ me when you have a response ^^

[ruby summit]

man im stressing out

now most of my clothes rig doesnt work and since i did it months ago now i forgot how to link them again

[agile birch]

wdym by that

[ruby summit]

idk why but my avatar got duplicated objects and most components got ruined

im trying to solve this with chatgpt

[agile birch]

ctrl = z

[compact dust]

yo where are animation settings at

nvm

[ruby summit]

fck it im gonna start over 😭

[compact dust]

just like me fr

[ruby summit]

does anyone know how to make a "fortnite loop"??

i got hatsune miku's emote on a pack and it came with 2 animations

the start and the loop

is there any way to make the emote start with the "start animation" and then continue with the loop?

[compact dust]

2 animations that are activated by the same trigger

the start ends, and then the loop starts at the time that the start would end

ex. start goes from 1-1:00
the loop would start at 1:00 to (blank)

that'd probably work

[ruby summit]

i didnt understood

😭

so i add them both in the toggle?

[compact dust]

yeah

[ruby summit]

okay now what?

[compact dust]

1s

im building an example

so like this

it doesnt actually need to be 2 animations

[ruby summit]

oh

im using vrcfury

[compact dust]

yeah but that's how you'd setup the animation

vrcf would just be the toggle

least that's how i'd do it

[ruby summit]

wait how do i get to there

i can only edit 1 animation at once

[compact dust]

that is 1 anim

show me what you're looking at

[compact dust]

oh dang

ok so the loop

[ruby summit]

yeas 💔

[compact dust]

you can move that all to like 1 minute

or however long it takes for the start to actually finish

[ruby summit]

the start ents at 0.22

so ill move the look to that timeline right?

[compact dust]

ok so then you'd put the start of the loop at .22

[ruby summit]

ok done

[compact dust]

then they'd be activated by the same toggle

[ruby summit]

ill try

and what about the audios, same thing?

[compact dust]

most likely

[ruby summit]

it stops there

[compact dust]

is that the end of the start anim?

[ruby summit]

ye

just in case

wait nvm thats the loop

this

[compact dust]

not sure

technically my idea would work (in theory)

unless smth went wrong

can you do a preview and play the loop to make sure its working?

[ruby summit]

loop only?

[compact dust]

yeah

if it never started it could be the loop animation

or smth about the toggle

[ruby summit]

nah the loops looks fine

[compact dust]

can you send a ss of both anims

[west atlas]

how can i use thyrs avatar performance tools to see my stats?

[ruby summit]

i can hop on vc if you prefer (sadly i cannot use mic rn, its 7am)

[west atlas]

im not rly seeing how i run the package

[compact dust]

is it in the tools section at the top of the window?

[west atlas]

let me restart and check

for now its not

it is not

i only see it in my packages section in my project

wait wait i found it

[compact dust]

not sure, i havent used thrys before so i dont know how to start it

kewl

[west atlas]

i wanna use it to see why my avatar is failing security checks

the sdk is allowing it to upload but its failing checks still

[compact dust]

i have no clue what fixes the checks

on your own 😔

[west atlas]

you think contacting support it worth a shot?

ive heard they dont really care about this type of thing

[compact dust]

try searching fail security checks in the search bar here first

someone probably said a fix

[west atlas]

oh theres a ton

thats a great sign

[compact dust]

i think there are a couple of reasons that causes it

[west atlas]

i was thinking it might be a result of me using alcom

but im seeing windows users with the same issue

[ornate stump]

Are you using latest version of sdk?

[compact dust]

hi ren

[west atlas]

i am

it even showed me the updated size limits

and im within them

[ornate stump]

Does it show uncompressed size as well?

[west atlas]

no it didnt show uncompressed

the avatar is just a basic manuka model but i changed the hair and the outfit

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot to confirm sdk version?

[west atlas]

where could i find the version?

[ornate stump]

In VCC.

[ruby summit]

i love how chatgpt isnt helping at all saying to add an animation controller when im using vrcfury

[ornate stump]

Is it failed security check on quest or PC?

[west atlas]

pc

[ornate stump]

Asking chatgpt without proper prompt and context isn't much better than asking an 8-ball.

[ruby summit]

i tried my bestest best into getting an answer

but betweeen im not rlly used to unity and the fact i dont understand half of what they saying

even when i ask for a simple explanation

[ornate stump]

On PC it should be fine. There is still a chance of security check failed randomly. You could try uploading it as a different avatar. If that works, then you could send support ticket to vrc and have them see why it failed.

[west atlas]

sounds good

thanks

[ruby summit]

well

[ornate stump]

The problem is you aren't familiar with using unity then.

[ruby summit]

yeah

well

is there any way to chain 2 animations with vrcfury? (start and loop)

[ornate stump]

It's too advanced for vrcfury to handle.

[ruby summit]

then is there any way to manually do it and add it to the vrcfury menu?

[ornate stump]

What kind of animation you are making?

[west atlas]

one last thing. could this be the problem

[ruby summit]

Im doing a fortnite aniumation (miku emote) so i want it to start with the start animation and then loop

[west atlas]

it doesnt let me select windows as the selected platform

[ruby summit]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-fortnite-miku-miku-live-fortnite-dance-miku-gif-6278891968660390137

dang i cant post gifs

[ornate stump]

That's strange. What OS you're using?

[compact dust]

actually couldnt you just copy/paste it so it repeats (but it'd be really long?)

[west atlas]

im using macOS

[ornate stump]

I'm not sure how to work on macOS.

[ruby summit]

maybe

well im complicating myself too much i think

ill just leave it like that

[west atlas]

im thinking of opening up the vcc on my pc and giving it a shot

[ruby summit]

i hate how it doesnt match correctly even when outside play mode it does

[compact dust]

this is why i dont mess with animations like that
too much brain power for me 😔

[eager acorn]

hey, I'm gonna need some help with this net pattern. I wanna use a camera space effect for it and I know how to make a custom script for it on pc but I also want this avatar to be quest compatible. Is there a way to achieve this effect on android?

[compact dust]

i dont know if vrc allows custom scripts

least didnt let me use one i made earlier

[eager acorn]

I'm not making a custom script, just a custom shader which is completely fine on pc but not on quest unfortunately

[compact dust]

ah ok

you said custom script, nvm

now i understand

[eager acorn]

sorry, my bad

[compact dust]

np

[buoyant thorn]

anyone got any idea on how to lose 2 more mbs for quest, I lowered all textures to as low as I could, removed outlines on mesh, put mesh compression on all meshes and removed audio sources and stuff

[junior void]

vrcfury blendshape optimizer if your mesh(es) have blendshapes that you dont use in animations

[buoyant thorn]

ill try that out

[buoyant thorn]

which one do i click there are nuke options

[junior void]

what

[buoyant thorn]

There isnt a blendshape optimizer anywhere

[junior void]

where are you looking

[buoyant thorn]

under vrcfury

tools tab

[junior void]

its a component

go to your avatar root and click "add component"

[buoyant thorn]

ohh

alright

that didnt lower it enough still got roughly 2 mb left

[junior void]

you could try thrys avatar performance tool to see what takes up the most

in some cases you just have no other choice than deleting items (additional hairs, clothes etc)

[nova briar]

i cant upload any avatars anymore, it gets stuck on uploading file 4%, has anyone experienced this?

[compact dust]

anyone know if this is a fine bone setup?

i think the chain could just be one bone but hrm

[nova briar]

how big is that keychain?

[compact dust]

mesh wise?

[junior void]

if its a small keychain, i dont see the use of most of the bones. to see them wiggle youd literally have to put the prop in front of your eyes

[compact dust]

its an earring but yeah

so 1 it is

doesnt matter which direct it faces except for weight painting either does it

[nova briar]

if its a small earring, i mean like a few cm/inches then i dont see why you would need that many bones

[compact dust]

jeff needs physics 🥺

[nova briar]

you cant even interact with each individually

[compact dust]

if the chain is too long for what im doing i could shorten it to make it bigger
although the 3d model upload took like 40m

[nova briar]

lol i guess, but it would just be a bunch of bones for something you can barely see

[compact dust]

im also uploading it to a server for others (if the owner lets me)

[nova briar]

probably wont even see them all move separately

[compact dust]

so more customization kinda

this auto weight painting parenting is taking forever

[nova briar]

to me just one or two bones for the chain (3 if you really want) and one or 2 more for jeff, body and tail

[compact dust]

i also need to texture him but idk how that works in blender, more yt tutorials for moi

[compact dust]

does the body rlly need one tho

[nova briar]

i mean now that you say it, not really, just one in the tail would be good

[compact dust]

now i see

im kinda dumb when it comes to bones

too bad my blender is frozen from trying to compute weight painting

[nova briar]

no dont say that, not dumb, just inexperienced, you can add 500 bones to a single hair strand if you want, but that would be a nightmare in terms of being optimized

the hair would move wonderfully, but would anyone even notice

[compact dust]

yeah but i just now realized how bones work 🙏

concerning physbones at least

[nova briar]

hahaha, good luck then, hope it turns out great

[compact dust]

<3

[nova briar]

if anyone can help my with this i'd appreciate

[desert elk]

are you getting any erorrs??

[nova briar]

no

it just stops on 4%

[compact dust]

chups

[nova briar]

tried with other avatars, even used my phones network with usb thethering and nothing

[compact dust]

yay my weight painting painted itself

yelo jef

why is his tail not painted even with the bone

shouldnt it be red/orange

[junior void]

weights show based on what bone or vertex group is selected

please watch a weight painting tutorial that just goes over the basics

[compact dust]

no

[junior void]

then suffer the consequences

[compact dust]

there are no consequences

[nova briar]

ok nevermind, with my phones netwotk it worked just really slow, but my isp said nothing is wrong

[west atlas]

i uploaded my avatar from my windows pc and it worked fine

weird

[desert elk]

why is that weird?

[cloud ore]

Hello.
I have two avatars in one unity project. Each avatar shares the same material. I created toggle animation for the material shader parameter and then used it in animation controller and made a toggle in expressions menu. Both avatars share the same animation controller and menu. But for some reason the toggle works for the avatar where the animation was created and doesn't work for another. By the way the default state in the animation controller differs from the default state of shader parameter and the avi (that's having troubles with toggle) looks like successfully gets into default state of the state machine (that corresponds to playing animation and custom shader parameter value). So at least we know that the animation controller works for that avatar. But I don't understand why the toggle works for the first avatar (triggers state transition to not-animated state) but doesn't work for the second. Any ideas?

Hah! It triggers the transition. But for some reason the material values stay customized. But for one of two avis only.

The first model (OK)

The second model (not OK). Value 0 is being set by animation. Default value at the material is 1. So that means that animation has successfully been applied by animation controller to the material. But for some reason it's not being restored to the default value when animation controller stops the animation (goes into On state)

[ripe quiver]

Can anyone help me out with trying to get a base done for a avatar?

It seems the avatar creator I have doing my bases is struggling so I was gonna get him advice

[desert elk]

it depends what the problem is

making bases is a big task

[ripe quiver]

He can't do eyes.

He made the base from the bottom up, but doesn't know how to make eyes.

And how to make the eyes work.

[desert elk]

don't send me friend requests. If i will help it will be in the server

[ripe quiver]

He's not in the server sadly.

[desert elk]

and how does you being on my friend list fix that?

it doesn't.

he can join the server or you can pass the advice along to him

[ripe quiver]

So I can make a group chat with you and him lol

[desert elk]

i am not adding you.

that's fishy

[ripe quiver]

... geez alright sorry for sending the friend request

[desert elk]

yeaa, that's not really something you do out of nowhere

"make eyes work"
are they weight painted to the eye bones?
eye movement is set up inside of unity, the irises must be weight painted to vertical eye bones

the roll of the eye bones must also be 0

[ripe quiver]

So he's hooked the eyes up to the bone.
Added player tracking
But the design isn't properly done.

[desert elk]

what does that mean?

[ripe quiver]

Ok so

He didn't make that lol

He actually put a inverted sphere inside a inverted sphere XD

He is learning how to do that tho.

@desert elk I got him in here

[ripe ledge]

E

[ripe quiver]

@ripe ledge

This is the guy learning eyes

[ripe ledge]

yes

[desert elk]

than, can you explain which step are you having trouble with?

[ripe ledge]

so i have added bones to the eyes and placed them into the avatar

[desert elk]

okay

[cloud ore]

Just in case anybody is interested: fixed that by adding animation that resets the shader values to their default states. So it seems like some Unity glitch that prevents shader values change to defaults on transition to a state having none animation.

[ripe ledge]

i did the eyetracking, i just forgot to weight paint

[desert elk]

yeah, that's needed

[ripe ledge]

ill get back to you once i test this out

[quartz spade]

For some reason my imposter avatar won’t generate, is there a place where I can look up any logs for this by any chance?

[timid kite]

can anybody share tail phys bone settings so it doesnt wiggle in every direction like it has its own life?

[ornate stump]

Put on Limit setting.

[timid kite]

ive never fucked with it so a bit more help would be appreciated <3

[ornate stump]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-dynamics/physbones#limits

[cloud ore]

I've added RadialPuppet menu item and corresponding layer into animator. Facing the problem that all values from 0% to 99% work fine. But when 100% is set then seems like animation position resets to the first frame. Is there some trick to make 100% in the RadialPuppet to use the last keyframe ?

I'm controlling emission intensity with that menu item so it's highly inconvenient that emission is being disabled when the control reaches 100%.