avatar-help

[merry torrent]

'm probably missing something silly. I have a toggle which should change an emission strength from 0 to 7.

For some reason, when I go in play mode, the emission is set at 0.7 even if the toggle is off. EVEN if I put the value to 0. (So if I activate the toggle it still should stay at 0)

Other toggles are disabled and that's the only one which touches the emission of that material.

Any idea what could be causing this issue?

[open spindle]

yea im not getting anything

[quasi gale]

Will do 🙏

[spare zenith]

thank you

[open spindle]

this stupid buttton was the reason

[somber sequoia]

ohhhhhh that's what you were doing

[spare zenith]

not sure if i done its right
moved hip bone in fbx unity options

kinda works now

but it floating on the ground in fbx edit mode in unity

[gloomy flint]

why is she naked now

😭

[light ravine]

yeah that’s normal (PUT HER CLOTHES BACK ON 😭)

[spare zenith]

woops

sorry

[gloomy flint]

h bsfhj

also i would have left it because the game did update like.. this morning arguably so it's likely a bug that snuck through and you could put out a canny

[light ravine]

yeah

and i think runa (robot girl ) was in the floor bcz she has no actual feet (if i can remember)

so yk it could be either a big or avatar error

[gloomy flint]

if it was originally fine but then broke after the update 100% a bug

[light ravine]

possibly (sometimes the game acts funny and breaks certain things)

[gloomy flint]

after the initial new patch the new imposters could crash you if you looked at them in the menu lmao

[light ravine]

LMAO

[spare zenith]

i tested 7 avatars and sadly all have same problem so i hope new update will fix it

[light ravine]

ohhh yeah that’s a bug

[mighty basin]

How do I add more integers to an expression parameter?

I'm editing a Manuka model and i noticed a parameter that's used to toggle off more than one article of clothing

but I don't know how to make any parameter do that

[timber wharf]

parameter driver

[mighty basin]

what's that?

[timber wharf]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#avatar-parameter-driver

[mighty basin]

(sorry, I'm VERY new to unity)

[mighty basin]

Where is that located?

in unity

[timber wharf]

on states (clips) in your animator, add behaviour

[mighty basin]

in the Animator Controller, right?

could we join a call and have me share my screen?

[timber wharf]

no

animator controller on avi is not used but itd be FX layer animator

for cloth at least

tho if you that new maybe an answer to your questuon is simpler. exolain what you need in more detail

[mighty basin]

I need to make an expression (from the radial menu) that is able to hide more than one article of clothing

[timber wharf]

what controls those rn

spearate params or single int

[mighty basin]

there is one single integer named "manuka_costume" but it has up to 2 values. I want to add a third, but when I set the value to "3" it does nothing when I test it out with the gesture manager

[fair bane]

i am going to make a avatar from the game Wolfenstein and i wanted to know if i need to censor the textures or not I've seen avatars that have the symbol but im not sure if ill be banned.

[timber wharf]

@mighty basin and youve set up an animation and conditions in fx layer same way the first two are done?

unless it uses Vrcfury

[mighty basin]

i just copied and pasted a state in the animator, and connected it.

also, i do have VRCfury I believe. i added it to the project when I first made it

this is my screen rn

[timber wharf]

check and edit those

so its same except 3 not 2 in condition

[mighty basin]

It worked! Thanks dude

Also, sorry I snapped. I was getting frustrated (tho that's not really an excuse)

[timber wharf]

🤷‍♂️didnt notice, good luck

[split sentinel]

so, trying to use inity FBX exporter to get an adjusted version of my avatar into blender so I can apply everything I changed but

nvm fixed XD

just had to press "apply transform" while importing

[mossy jacinth]

anyone know where i can find the grab animation in the files?

i wanna make my props usable on pc

[nova topaz]

anyone help me upload it

[desert elk]

if you locate them in your assets you can right click and pick "show in explorer" if I understood the question correctly.

[desert elk]

what part are you struggling with?

[nova topaz]

uh i dont have admin so i cant upload it

[gloomy flint]

admin?

[nova topaz]

if someone could upload it for me..

[nova topaz]

admin permission

i cant download unity

[gloomy flint]

I will let u know it's against TOS to sign into someone else's account, even to upload avatars

It'll also permanently mark eachothers' accounts as alts of eachother so if one of you gets banned, the other will too

[nova topaz]

i never said sign into someones elses acc

and i wont get banned its not like im evil

[gloomy flint]

They will need to sign into YOUR account to upload the avatar.

[nova topaz]

no i can just send the model

[gloomy flint]

They will need to sign into your account to upload the avatar

That's how uploading works.

If you want it on your account, they need to sign into your account.

[nova topaz]

i dont need it into my account tho

i could like

take the avatar ingame right

copy it

[gloomy flint]

Most sold avatars cannot be public.

[nova topaz]

but i made it

[gloomy flint]

But what if they get banned, or decide to delete the avatar taking up space on their account

You then lose access to the avatar you made.

[nova topaz]

idk

[gloomy glen]

So I have a question for a friend: they were trying to upload their avatar but they can’t change the name, description, or thumbnail (it’s just stuck on loading)

[nova topaz]

js need the avatar for one vid

so

i dont mind

[gloomy flint]

Go onto the website and try changing it there I think should work @ icy

or do you mean can't upload it, infos stuck on loading

[gloomy glen]

They can’t upload since the info is stuck

[gloomy flint]

Did they try closing and reopening the project?

[gloomy glen]

Yeah

[gloomy flint]

Next troubleshoot, did they try making a new project and trying again in that one?

If it persists across multiple projects for this one specific avatar I would contact the creator for help ngl

[gloomy glen]

They haven’t made a new project, I’ll help them guide through it brb

[peak iris]

Hi I'm completely clueless and want to make a really simple avatar, could i get some help?

[somber sequoia]

that's what this channel is for, yep

[inland seal]

Im having problem With "Auto IK", Even tho my bones have "Connected" on it still doesnt follo the other bones when I select the last one.

It was working before so idk what happened

[late lion]

not sure if i can ask this but would anyone who’s good with blender & unity be down to add me and hop in vc sometime? i have an avi im getting into the final (ish) stages and i need some help with certain things like mats, physbones, etc

[junior void]

Would you do that for a complete stranger? ;D

[late lion]

if i had the knowledge, yes 😭

[somber sequoia]

I would for money 🙂

[late lion]

[slim gale]

shader: https://www.poiyomi.com/
physbones: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-dynamics/physbones/
-# in general the VRC Docs have some great info on creating and putting together your first avi (https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/creating-your-first-avatar)

[slim gale]

did the bone names change? is your tail mesh armature modifier pointing to the correct armature? are they parented correctly?

[slim gale]

theres a few ways to go about it, i would suggest buying a base and then starting out with that
alternitively if you want to do it from scratch i would recommend getting familiar with blender first then reading VRC Docs, more specifically the "making your first avatar" section

[late lion]

thank you! i’ll give these a look once i get home.

[slim gale]

it should be under the VRCSDK section inside of the vrcsdk.avatars in the packages folder

[dark jay]

what causes one leg to be more forward and higher up a little ive checked the bones they are aligned right and done right

[inland seal]

no

and yes it poits correctly

[desert elk]

i think that's just how the idle animation looks, I remember there being a conversation about it here before

you can always preview the animation in unity and see

[mossy jacinth]

thanks!

[slim gale]

does your mesh have the name of the bone that should work in the vertex groups?

[slim gale]

you could check your unity rigging menu to see if maybe the legs are slightly off or have different transforms

[sick ice]

Hey could someone help me with this? The expression works fine in unity but when i upload it to vrc. the eyes dont work?? It also does it to some of the other expressions btw

[slim gale]

how are you testing it in unity? are you using avatar emulator?
also are there any blendshape animations in the wrong spot inside your vrc avatar descriptor?

and by "not working" what is your intended outcome between the two? they look extremely simular

[junior void]

Are you perhaps using a blendshape thats already in use in the descriptor? Such as blink for example

[inland seal]

yes

[slim gale]

does the bone have weight in weight painting view?

[inland seal]

its a paid avatar, it has all of that

[sick ice]

Omg it was the blink.. thank you sm😭

[slim gale]

Thats not the answer im looking for, if the last bone doesnt move the mesh, can you preview its weights in blender weight paint mode

[junior void]

'It doesn't follow the other bones' is kinda not really clear to me whats expected and whats actually happening ngl

[slim gale]

Maybe im misunderstanding, but have you set up ik before? Normally you select the root and then have the others act as children

So you may need to up the child count / the amount IK can control

[dense vine]

is anyone else having issues with avatar toggle desyncing today?

my toggles worked fine yesterday now they are having problems

[slim gale]

Desyncing between platforms or local/server?

[dense vine]

some local but most like pretty much all my toggles with others

[slim gale]

Do you have the parameters synced selected as true in the vrcsdk/parameter list?

[dense vine]

yea

like they sync then randomly desync and i have to use the toggle again

[slim gale]

Can u ss ur param list

[slim gale]

Do you have any complex systems on your avatar that may drive or change param values via anims?

[dense vine]

yes and i thought it might be that but those avatars worked fine yesterday but today they don't work properly

[slim gale]

Is it universal between multiple avatars? If thats the case its more than likely vrc is just doing a funky

[dense vine]

yea

[slim gale]

You can check the canny and see if there are any similar reports

[dense vine]

i tried restarting vrchat and that didnt work

[dense vine]

alright let me see

thanks

[dark jay]

how do i fix it

[dark jay]

i did

[inland seal]

It does move the mesh

[desert elk]

change the animation to a different one. Find one online or make one yourself. Idk how, I never did it myself

[dark jay]

where is the idle animation i have gogo loco

[desert elk]

idk I never changed mine

[dark jay]

ah does gogoloco have one

[desert elk]

...

I never changed mine, I have no idea

I'd assume so?

but don't take my word for it

[dark jay]

ok

[slim gale]

Could you please specify what your goal is with auto IK? Like what are you using it for?

[slim gale]

If your using gogo youll need to edit the prefab / layer to insert your own anims

Gogoloco docs has a whole section on customizing animations, but do be warned its an extremely complex system

[somber sequoia]

I've read it - they explain it decently well, but you will probably need some knowledge of animation

[inland seal]

faster animation

[slim gale]

Im not familiar enough with ik to help out, i would probably suggest either IK tutorials or blender Docs

[dark jay]

i just wanted to know how to fix this

[desert elk]

okay, guys

blender

nevermind, I got it

[somber sequoia]

mmm blender.

[desert elk]

haha

yeah

[glossy trout]

Anyone know what could possibly be causing this? (my gesture layer looks a bit different since I have jamie's vape system on)
aka; gestures work fine whenever the vape isn't toggled on but they only do open hand whenever it is (same on both hands)
https://gyazo.com/00953f51e1ed55a5966ae13fc5aa4783
https://gyazo.com/946317782285a7e07cd06861b19fdcdc

[dull sable]

is there a prefab or a way to make an easy password for an avatar prop through a submenu where when the code is entered you then have access to a submenu

[night ember]

thats literally just a transition with the parameters requiring to be at specific values

[timid kite]

how do i delete this bone? i dont see it in the scene. i know how to delete it from the scene, but not from the hierarchy like this

[somber sequoia]

'x' just like in the scene, assuming you're in edit mode.

I think you have to mouse-over the scene though

[timid kite]

i am in the edit mode and x didnt do anything

[somber sequoia]

works for me

[timid kite]

im on 4.2

[somber sequoia]

4.3.2 but that hasn't changed in forever

[timid kite]

any way to highlight it in the scene somehow? maybe its a tiny bone idk

[somber sequoia]

is the bone visible? maybe it's in a hidden group?

[timid kite]

its not visible

[somber sequoia]

you generally can't delete invisible things

do alt+h to unhide stuff

that won't show a hidden bone collection though, so make sure you have the right one on

[timid kite]

i moved it with g and deleted it

[somber sequoia]

cool, that can work too

[pastel lark]

Anyone that can link me any good avatar making/mashing tutorials on YouTube? I've got a base, clothes, head, hair.. but I can't find a single tutorial that just.. teaches me the basics to get started with actually making (or uh.. customising???) an avatar.

[somber sequoia]

Anything by PxINKY (who was just posting in here)

[desert elk]

this

that's how I learned most things

[pastel lark]

Thank you thank you

I'm a complete newb and I'm honestly considering just finding and paying someone to put the Lego (avatar) pieces together for me

[desert elk]

Lego pieces is funny

it kinda is like that

[pastel lark]

Virtual Lego (screaming because parented parts aren't moving things parented to them) (this isn't an issue I'm having rn just past experience)

[desert elk]

haha

I like to think of avatar making as puzzle pieces

[somber sequoia]

if it's all prefabs....

[desert elk]

oh no

the most prefabs I had was 2

[pastel lark]

Mine will be all prefabs (I can't 3d model)
(I already struggle with 2 planes plus don't add a third (evaporating))

[desert elk]

it's so easy especially if your clothes were made for the base

[pastel lark]

But do not Fret I will customise the textures

[mighty basin]

how do I add an image texture to this material? I tried to just replace the PNG file itself, but that didn't work

[somber sequoia]

Drag it into a texture slot. That's all.

[mighty basin]

where do I find the texture slots?

[desert elk]

it's blue

on the screenshot

[somber sequoia]

yeah.

[desert elk]

you're right there

[mighty basin]

I'm trying to drag it, but then my cursor turns into a 🚫 sign

[somber sequoia]

then it's not a valid image file, for whatever reason

[mighty basin]

wierd. does it need to be a bmp file?

it's a png

[somber sequoia]

.png is ideal

[mighty basin]

that's what it is tho

I just made an edit to the manuka_body.png texture

that's all I did

[somber sequoia]

without inspecting the image I couldn't tell you more, but there's got to be some reason it's not valid for that slot

[lethal mortar]

I've been having a issue where I added a power / effect on my Avatar by Coogee and the effect automatically activates on my fallback avatar and the displayed avatar in my preview.

People were crashing and having to turn my avatar off. I tried unchecking the effect then reuploading the avatar and that didn't work. Then I tried turning it off completely and that disabled the effect completely. Though my avatar was properly displayed in my preview.

Does anyone know what I'm missing to make sure I can still have the effect and it's not automatically activating when I spawn in a world when people see my fallback?

[mighty basin]

can I dm it to you since it's technically nude? i don't wanna get in trouble here (are you at least 18 years old?)

[somber sequoia]

I'm in the middle of stuff, was just saying that I can't tell you why it doesn't like that, but make sure it's actually a valid png image, not just one named .png

[mighty basin]

it is an actual png file

[mossy jacinth]

I just switch the shader to toonlite, drag the image in then switch it back

[mighty basin]

still didn't work

[mossy jacinth]

huh, weird

[desert elk]

is the avatar using that material?

[mighty basin]

yes it is

it was the manuka_body texture. I deleted the old texture it was using and now I can't add a new one

I am dragging it directly from File Explorer btw

OHHHHH I'm supposed to drag it from unity itself!

[desert elk]

yeah!

[mighty basin]

alrighty. its working now! Thanks!

[somber sequoia]

ohhhh

[distant hull]

Anyone know whats wrong?

Its why it says its not mapped😭

[slim gale]

Sometimes a bug, you can try saving and closing it and reopening

[sweet pulsar]

whats the option to "extend" the borders of a texture so it stops repeating

[distant hull]

it didnt fix🥲

[desert elk]

set to generic, apply and back to humanoid and apply?

[distant hull]

nope😭

[desert elk]

damn

[slim gale]

Whats the armature look like?

[slim gale]

Also what is the object you are applying this texture to? Was this texture made specifically for the item?

[sweet pulsar]

its an iris i do not wish to have repeat, blender has the convinent option to "extend" an image from its borders

[slim gale]

If you are applying this to an eye mesh, do the uvs line up?
Like as i asked, was this texture made specifically for your mesh?

[distant hull]

Hoping this is right (Haven't done anything on unity in awhile)

[slim gale]

Because repeating / issues only really arise is one of the two are missalligned

[slim gale]

One issue right off the bat is youve exported this with 3 layers of end bones, you should definitely remove those

Second off, your spine/chest/upper chest are incorrect

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/rig-requirements/

Just swap the spots of them, that should hopefully work

[distant hull]

Should it be 1 end bone?

[slim gale]

None idealy

You dont need them, and the only time you would (for physbones) can be replicated within the physbone settings itself

Any bone with _end is most likely a dead weight and will just bloat the avatars armature

[sweet pulsar]

Yes I have made the texture specifically for my mesh. I dont think I was clear enough so I have a screenshot hopefully showing what I meant

blender has the helpful feature of repeating the edge pixels of a texture/image i wondered where unity has this

Oh- changing wrap mode to clamp in unity is the extension I was looking for thanks for helping!

[arctic ginkgo]

Sorry just saw this, but clamp seems to be what you're looking for yeah, also there's a feature to change the behavior per-axis, which I find helpful in some situations

[sweet pulsar]

Indeed

[distant hull]

What order should It go. I did everything😭

[short ferry]

uhm what, I'm connected to the internet

[desert elk]

try a different internet source

hot spot from phone?

[short ferry]

I don't have that-

ok it just fixed itself?

[desert elk]

great

[rain wave]

having an issue where when I try to upload an avi unit completely crashes & says this

can anyone help me out?

[rain wave]

I also get this

[azure bobcat]

with VRCFury, how do you get a toggle to do multiple things at once. for example, how would i toggle an object and change a blendshape at the same time? how would i do a slider that changes multiple blendshapes at the same time?

[lethal mortar]

I've been having an issue where I added a power/effect to my Avatar, and the effect automatically activates on my fallback avatar and not my avatar when it's turned on. I also just see an effect with a ultra small version of my avatar in the avatar details preview.

People experiencing the problem suggested turning off the visibility of the avatar in Unity before uploading, so I deleted my initial uploaded and removed the ID on the avatar and reuploaded. But people still experience the problem with the black box effect still activating.

The only real solution I could figure out is just completely removing the effect / disabling it entirely.

Can anyone help me with this issue?

[ornate stump]

Visibility only hide object in editor. You have to actually disable the object.

[lethal mortar]

By disabling the object do you mean checking off the box next to the name that disables the whole animation? Or is this something in the animation tab that needs to be toggled so it's default isn't on when the avatar is in fallback mode?

[ornate stump]

The first one.

[lethal mortar]

When I do the first option that just disables the whole animation, I can't use the toggles to make it work anymore in game.

[ornate stump]

Then you'd have to look into the animation and see which object is disabled by the animation, and disable that object accordingly.

[lethal mortar]

Would it be this toggle and changing the value from 1 to something else to make the default be off? Assuming Value of 1 means on.

[ornate stump]

That is no.

[lethal mortar]

Is it the arrows then in the animator?

[ornate stump]

That's called transition.

[ornate stump]

Since it's MA. You could just test with gesture manager and see which object get disabled.

[lethal mortar]

I didn't have the gesture menu enabled so let me upload that and reopen the project

Thank you again for the help

So I see in the gesture manager the on for both animations are false for the ON switch, I'm not sure where else to look to see why my fallback somehow defaulting for the animation to be on

In the FX the State lists are unknown, so is it a FX issue?

[lime rover]

Hello, does anyone know why my material leaves empty spaces? because the materials have a solid background color, I don't know why they are visible in the material when they are not visible in the blender.

[lime rover]

It's weird because that sticks out in the places where I have the unwrap lines marked

[amber pivot]

hey! im working on a toggle right now and i need some help trying to make it work
it has blood and body horror so ill spoiler it
what I want to do is have my avatar to be able to toggle on a spike (where his body is visible and walk around) and one where his body is on the spike (invisible but can walk around) BUT
my problem is that i want to be able to toggle on the "Sonic On Spike" without making him invisble or make the spike spawn, so people can leave it on so they dont have to toggle both on so it looks good

[somber sequoia]

My guess is that your shader in unity has backface culling on, but in blender you have it off, so you're seeing the backsides of faces.

[radiant owl]

Boost

[covert zodiac]

can someone pls help, i am having issue with the model, i am using the texture animated blendshape with serialized property (_main tex_st) change and having this error that deleting things so in the end avatar just not talking or blinking

[ornate stump]

If UV edge is right on the same edge as painting on texture, that will cause mipmapping to breed out to the solid background. Solution is texture edge padding http://wiki.polycount.com/wiki/Edge_padding

[ornate stump]

Do you read instructions in the page where you got the shader from?

[dapper lagoon]

Something I want to do is lock an avatar's locomotion and rotation in place, like how GogoLoco gives you an option to do so. What do I need to constrain?

[ornate stump]

Those are vrm component and can't be use as vrchat avatar as it is.

[covert zodiac]

strange cos i did use them before and it's only avatar i had issues like that

[ornate stump]

It had to be a different avatar or you misunderstood something.

[covert zodiac]

i think it is just this avatar, cos it's first time i tried to upload this ps1 style blendshape texture rig

never had this before

even tried to upload other avatars all worked normal

but this one just making me go crazy XD

[ornate stump]

Different as in it has different setup. This one you shown is definitely for vrm.

Of course vrm and vrchat can actually use "same 3D model". Both just have to have different component in order to build for either platform.

[ornate stump]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors#animator-locomotion-control

[dapper lagoon]

Thank you!

[lime rover]

So should I fill in all these areas? because I remember having made another similar model and this did not happen to it

[ornate stump]

Yes. The other one might already had some padding enough where you couldn't see.

It isn't necessary to fill entirely, just some 4-16px padding usually enough for 1K texture.

[lime rover]

ok, I'm going to do it. thanks for the info

[sweet crypt]

Is there a way to create a facial expression lock for booth avatars so no matter what my afters eyes stay open no matter what hand gesture I’m doing?

[ornate stump]

There is a way. But I don't have instruction.

[sweet crypt]

I tried looking for videos but I can’t find anything and I really want facial lock rip

[ornate stump]

Might start learning the fundamental of how animator controller work. So you can come up with a solution and apply it.

[sweet crypt]

Yea probably my best bet

[amber pivot]

still need help 😢

[cunning swan]

whats the best physbone settings for an earing

[soft thistle]

i fixed that problem now

[cloud stratus]

would someone be able to help me out with poiyomi shaders? anytime i upload an avatar after poiomi its always pink, i have no idea what shader im supposed to select for on the pc version of the avi

[trim tiger]

is there any way to detect playspace movement via a parameter OR have feet set to tracking while still having custom standing stances

[rain wave]

could anyone help with this?

unity seems to crash & says this every time I try to upload

[sweet herald]

There's anyway to put png or a jpg to 3d model?

[slim gale]

if you are refering to the novabeast, its most likely because the base avatar uses liltoon rather than poiyomi
additionally if you are using a material swap to an invalid shader or unimported one that will cause the issue of things turning pink

[cloud stratus]

thank you

[slim gale]

yes, either photoshop it onto the desired spot on the base texture, or use poiyomis decal system (note poiyomi is not supported on quest, so the best option is modifying the base texture)

[sweet herald]

Ok

[slim gale]

what ever feels the best to you, personally i find putting slight gravity and lowering the pull and putting the momentum up make it a little more swing-y
but its honestly best to just mess around till you find the settings you like

[slim gale]

make a bool called "exptoggle" (or what ever you want)
make it so that every left / right hand gesture has:
gesture = x AND exptoggle = false

and then add a toggle to your menu to toggle the bool exptoggle on/off
this will allow you to toggle weither your facial expressions with work or not

[sweet crypt]

bless ur soul

[slim gale]

https://booth.pm/ja/items/4493526 its on the store page, translate to english and read the installation guide

[slim gale]

this is very confusing, can you please specify what exactly you are trying to do and what each of your anims / toggles do?

[azure frost]

Uhm, I keep on getting this state where im supposedly a midget, I'm thinking it might be something to do with the armature but I dont know. Any help is welcomed! :)

I do know i have no materials right now

[slim gale]

whats your rig menu within unity look like? does your avatar roughly match the recommended humanoid proportions

[amber pivot]

i drew a picture to explain my idea if this helps

[azure frost]

I have already checked through these, but everything seemed fine to me

[sweet crypt]

do u hve a video i can go off of im confused

[slim gale]

use 2 bools and then just add an addition check to see if both are true, if thats the case make a transition to the 3rd animation

scuse my dog water ms paint skills

[azure frost]

It does have the proportions when rigged

[slim gale]

its super duper simple

its like just making any other toggle

but instead of making the toggle in the FX, you are just editing your left / right hand layers to include the bool you created

[spark walrus]

How heavy are rotation constraints in terms of performance

[slim gale]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-dynamics/constraints/#performance

if your asking for specific cpu frametime i think i know someone whos done a whole write up, tho id have to dig for sure

[sweet crypt]

god i must be super dumb then xD

[azure frost]

@slim gale do you have any idea what it could actually be?

[slim gale]

that looks alright, do you have any animations that may be acting on your rig?

[sweet crypt]

i was checking out your videos ( i recongized who you were lol sorry i use your videos all the time) and i dont know how to do it readinf based im a huge visual learner

[azure frost]

Nope I made sure to test this barebones at first, what you are seeing is just an import of an fbx with the necessary things to actually upload

[slim gale]

i dont have a specific tutorial for this since its a little neiche, but i can open unity and make a rough example

[sweet crypt]

i dont want you to have to do more work then you have to!

[slim gale]

i havent ran into this issue personally, but you could try applying transforms for the armature/mesh within blender and re-exporting

tho im not super confident that will fix the issue at hand, its the next thing i can think of

[azure frost]

Well, since im using the komano base, I am currently seeing if i can just copy a bunch of the data from the bases prefab to see if that will change anything

Also I would like you to elaborate on applying the transforms for the armature in blender to give me a better idea

[sweet crypt]

ive also considered deleting my facial animtions would that work?

[slim gale]

default VS custom

[sweet crypt]

OH! but can i turn that into a toggle for when i want my expressions?

[slim gale]

in blender you can apply transforms to a mesh which will set the size reference to 1 from what ever it was
it can fix some odd-off bugs with sizing and weights. But again its kind of a hail-marry

[slim gale]

yeah! just add the toggle to the menu and make sure it toggles the bool from True to False and viseversa

so then if its true, the animation can never trigger AKA no expressions

[sweet crypt]

TY ill play around on my tester AVI tysm Pinky ❤️

[azure frost]

Okay so I think I actually fixed it, it was something to do with the FBX i imported. I used FACS Utils to see if I can just copy some of the stuff from the prefab to see if i was missing anything and it worked lol

[slim gale]

to save time from uploading between test def use gesture emulator (if you dont already)

and any time ❤️

[azure frost]

As you see I am no longer under 4'11" :0

[slim gale]

ahhh you may have copied over some transforms that caused your bones to be squished

that makes sense

do include that you used tools in your posts in the future ^^

tools will cause issues if you dont fully understand all its functions/features

[azure frost]

Never copied anything onto that FBX, it was like that on import 😭

[slim gale]

but good job 👍

[azure frost]

Thank you so much Pinky, btw thank you for reminding me how to make a toggle every once in a while 😭

[slim gale]

i didnt read ur message well oops, i assumed that was pumpkins
never seen facs

[slim gale]

any time 🫡

[azure frost]

I can send you the GitHub, has some very useful tools.

[slim gale]

please do ^^, dms open

[azure frost]

ou are living definition of "If you need help seek a furry, they know way too much about a specific neiche"

[slim gale]

im nothing but humbled to be able to help so many people
the stuff i see some people do is so amazing and im happy that ive been able to be the start to so many peoples unity adventures :3
-# i expand my neiche every day >:3

[azure frost]

All good, hope those repos I sent you have interested you to experiment :)
(My autism obsession is blender if you didnt know)

[ivory summit]

lmfao i dont use this server
anyway i cant figure out what the hell is happening with my avatar or how it got flipped like this

[desert elk]

did you apply transforms when exporting from blender?

[ivory summit]

doing that broke it like this in unity

[night ember]

Did you pose it or something

[ivory summit]

nope

[desert elk]

did you override the fbx or imported a new one? (import a new one if you overrode)

and check the rig menu in unity

and assign the bones correctly there

[ivory summit]

bone in the rig menu are assigned correctly

[ivory summit]

overrode it

[desert elk]

import a new one

when you do, check the rig menu again

[ivory summit]

yeah same thing

[desert elk]

show the rig menu and bone hierarchy please

[ivory summit]

these?
chest wasnt mapped automatically

[amber pivot]

thank you! i had to adjust some stuff for my setup and some exta stuff i had to add but this really helped :D

[novel skiff]

zero in the chat still typing

we got zero in the chat

[desert elk]

?

[junior void]

to me, the picture looks like unapplied transforms ngl

[desert elk]

apparently doing that turned the head around

no, arms

I looked at the picture wrong

[junior void]

are we sure the user knows that applying transforms has to be done on armature objects too

[desert elk]

idk

how did you apply transforms?

[ivory summit]

model itself didnt have any transforms to apply but the armature did

[desert elk]

no

that's not what I meant

A - to select everything
Crtl+A - apply all transforms

is that what you did?

[junior void]

you misunderstood them i believe over modifiers?

[desert elk]

that's what I'm thinking happened

[ivory summit]

all i did was that

[desert elk]

do that to all the objects

that you have

not only the armature

[junior void]

Another question i have is if your knees and elbows are bent by like at least 1 degree or if theyre pefrectly straight (because the ik wont know which way to bend those if theyre straight)

that may also be a reason for body flips

[ivory summit]

ok that hopefully fixed it being weird

guess ill test animations now

[ivory summit]

and this might be it yeah

ok yeah that fixed it

just gotta get the outline to be small again now ig

thank you tho

[stuck light]

is that freaking prototype?!

how

[cosmic mauve]

its keep annoying me

[desert elk]

you need to change the shader to either MatCap Lit, Standard Lite or Toon Lit

[cosmic mauve]

toon lit didnt work im gona try the others

[desert elk]

make sure to change all of your materials

[cosmic mauve]

Nothing changed it's keeping tegan the full body of the avatar even I change the material I tried to find the shader file which I couldn't find it

[desert elk]

tegan?

[ashen crane]

yall i need help on making the ultra instinct particle effect like this:

[latent pebble]

Sketchfab is the answer

[stuck light]

ok

[cosmic mauve]

tag

[desert elk]

you need to locate the materials your avatar uses and change the shaders of them

idk how else to help

[cosmic mauve]

its ok thx for u help

[pastel nest]

hi need some help with animator and write defaults

my write defaults was one that caused some clothes to go off and on and off again , so i wanted to fix that so i swithced off all write defaults

but now i have a problem where all my blendshape controllers that is controlled by stretch bones to always be max

and even switching it back to write defaults on didn't fix that

so there is something i dont quite understand

[timid kite]

the angle between pelvis and thigh bones should be close to 180 degrees (this avatar's angle is 88.0).

help! how do i fix this

my avtar is tposing

[somber sequoia]

use a mesh as the emitter, could just be the body itself. the rest is just fancy particles, there are lots of example packs of flame, some free in the Unity store

[somber sequoia]

might be bone roll or a weird rest pose, you'd have to check in Blender

[white geyser]

I need help

[somber sequoia]

... with?

[white geyser]

I'm doing GTA Character

[idle quartz]

eyes turned black when converting to a quest compatible avi

[white geyser]

But the clothing texture doesn't work

[idle quartz]

there's no extra layer for the eyes tho the texture is behind the black circles

[somber sequoia]

possibly vertex colors

[idle quartz]

i'll try and color the transparent part on the texture black or smth

[somber sequoia]

if it's vertex colors, that won't matter, the quest shaders will still multiply them. You'd need to remove those with blender or something like vrc quest tools

[tidal void]

Hello! I was hoping someone could help me tackle this "issue" with my avi.

My avi has a face gesture that occurs when I either rest my thumb on** both Left-A, Left-B or on top of both my Joysticks**, that produces an inappropiate face expression.

I want to get rid or replace that gesture with a neutral one, but I'm a bit clueless where exactly I can do that in Unity.

I would really appreciate any help ❤️ 🫶

[idle quartz]

i used vrcquesttools to convert the avi already

which part would it be in?

[white geyser]

But the clothing texture looks like this

[somber sequoia]

no idea, I've never used it, just aware it does this

[somber sequoia]

you'd have to figure out which gesture number that is, and find the animation layer in your FX animator which does facial expressions based on gestures, find that specific transition, and disable it

[idle quartz]

it doesnt help at all

[tidal void]

How exactly do I find the gesture numbers?

[somber sequoia]

the documentation of course:
https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters#gestureleft-and-gestureright-values

[somber sequoia]

ok perhaps it's not vertex colors then. It's a common issue

[cosmic wave]

Watch this video by Sipp, it might help you:

• Instead of adding expressions, you just change what is already there.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU9NFJz2qls

[tidal void]

Will do, thanks

[somber sequoia]

oh good one, I forgot they had a video for this

[high fable]

I bought an avatar off of booth, and it came with premade expression, how do I import those expressions into the expressions menu

[desert elk]

are they not already imported?

they usually are

[high fable]

they're not in the expressions menu

but they're in the unity file

[gloomy flint]

they wouldnt be in the menu usually? did you try doing gestures?

[desert elk]

yeah

maybe they're mapped to hand gestures

[high fable]

I'm a desktop user

[desert elk]

shift+Fx

[gloomy flint]

then youd have to make your own expression toggles.

[high fable]

and they're made for desktop users

[desert elk]

1 to something

to make hand gestures on desktop

left shirt for left hand, right for right

[gloomy flint]

did the avatar say PC or Desktop

PC is for PCVR players, Desktop is keyboard and mouse

[high fable]

oh I think it said pc

[desert elk]

yeah

that;s different

[high fable]

how would I do this are there any good guides

[gloomy flint]

its for pcvr then. to make expression toggles you'd have to look up a tutorial tbh, i'm pcvr so i never had to do it-

[desert elk]

you can make hand gestures with Shift + F1 (as in funtion key) and so on
left shift for left hand, right for right

or you can remake them into toggles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU9NFJz2qls&t=152s

toggles start at 3:21

[grave iron]

anyone know how to add shoes onto an avatar, trieed watching youtube videos but nothing seemed to help

[gloomy flint]

that is.. such a weird set to make for keybinds,,,

[high fable]

I made the hand gestures but the expression did not change

[desert elk]

yeah

i know

[desert elk]

then i'd check the fx layer

if they're included

[desert elk]

it was very annoying back when i was on desktop

[desert elk]

if it's made for your avatar it's just merging armatures

[gloomy flint]

tries to point, accidentally keybind deletes system 32

[grave iron]

its not quite made for this base

[gloomy flint]

blender time for you

[grave iron]

never used blender before lmao

[desert elk]

you're in for a fun time

[gloomy flint]

yep

[grave iron]

so i guess its not as simple as adding clothing huh...

[desert elk]

if they're rigged you could try to change the bone names to be the same as your avi and merge armatures

depanding on the weight painting and stuff it could work

obv if the shoes are too small or whatever you'd need to make then bigger

[grave iron]

im not too smart with that ive got no idea what you mean

[desert elk]

that's alright, everyone starts somewhere

first get blender (i reccomend 4.2) and cats unoffical (add on handy for armature merging but you can do it manually too)
and import both your model fbx and the shoes fbx into a blender project

[grave iron]

so i shouldnt download the newest one?

[desert elk]

nope

[grave iron]

uhh

[desert elk]

4.2 is the latest long time support version, meaning if there are any bugs they quickly get fixed

[desert elk]

that's why i use it

[grave iron]

which one?

[desert elk]

yeah no

[grave iron]

lol

[desert elk]

https://www.blender.org/download/releases/4-2/

[grave iron]

oh sweet okay thanks

and im guessing this is what you mean for that cats thing?

[desert elk]

yup

don't unzip!

keep it zipped

[grave iron]

okay

installing blender now

okay blender is open now what do i do

[desert elk]

edit > preferences

and the arrow in the top right corner if I remember correctly and pick the cats zip file

[grave iron]

no arrow in the top right corner

[desert elk]

hold on let me open my blender xd

[ashen crane]

im trying but is there a way to make the mesh parented to the armature as the emitter?

[distant hull]

Idk I got help yesterday But I think I did it wrong idk whats wrong?/

[junior void]

You dont need the n panel until after installation

[desert elk]

ah add ons

oops

[junior void]

Addons -> install from disk

[desert elk]

yes

and pick the zip file

[grave iron]

okay i think it installed

[desert elk]

Great you can import your fbx files now

[grave iron]

theres an error symbol beside it

[desert elk]

that's normalll

file > import > fbx

and import your model and your shoes

[grave iron]

okay

done

also i cant move im stuck anchored to the floor

[distant hull]

?

[grave iron]

nvm i found the button

[desert elk]

shift and middle mouse button

xD

[grave iron]

oooh

awesome

[desert elk]

so the shoes have bones?

[grave iron]

how do i tell?

[desert elk]

you have too many chest bones

[desert elk]

they should have an armature on the right side of the screen

[grave iron]

uh

[desert elk]

hold on

[grave iron]

no?

[junior void]

Right side

[desert elk]

your will probably be called shoes or something like that

[desert elk]

oops

[grave iron]

theres no armature

[desert elk]

ohh

[grave iron]

and their called plane lol

[desert elk]

you'll need to weight paint them

[junior void]

Only bc they dont have bones doesnt mean they dont have vertex groups

They may do

[desert elk]

oh yeah

[high fable]

well I got the facial expressions to show up in the menu, they just don't work or do anything

[desert elk]

maybe

[high fable]

whhhy

[grave iron]

is weight painitng complicated? i dunno how to do that lol

[desert elk]

did you assign animations to the toggles?

and do the animations work in preview

[desert elk]

this is the maximum of bones you can have in the chest area

Upper chest being optional

[distant hull]

But if I get rid of them, it breaks the model😭

[desert elk]

You curretly have Hips, Spine1, Spine2, Spine3, Chest1, which is one too many

what method are you using?

to "get rig of them"?

[junior void]

You can merge/dissolve

[desert elk]

that's what i was gonna suggest

[junior void]

Deleting will be problematic

[desert elk]

true

[distant hull]

Is that a blender thing?

[junior void]

Yes

[desert elk]

yup

[distant hull]

👍

[desert elk]

look at your model and pick one bone to merge

so the rest of the bones still make sense

[desert elk]

check if you have vertex groups first, select your mesh (the orange triangle) and look here

[grave iron]

theres no vertex groups on the shoes

[desert elk]

hm, how do they look like? (you may get away with weight paining everything to the feet bones if the shoes aren't very tall)

[high fable]

it doesn't work in preview but I don't think I assigned the animations to the toggles, and the animations don't appear as options to add to the toggles

[desert elk]

wait

send some screenshots please

[high fable]

Me

[desert elk]

yes

[high fable]

k, of the game or unity

[desert elk]

if it doesn't work in preview, then the animations must not have been recorded

[desert elk]

unity ofc

do you have animation files for the face expressions

?

[high fable]

yeah lots

[distant hull]

When I press dissolved bones, nothing happens😭

[high fable]

they just don't appear in the menu to add the toggles

[desert elk]

i never did it by dissolving so i can't help with that

[desert elk]

send screenshots cause i need to see that

[distant hull]

Do you know how to merge it?

[desert elk]

cats add-on

[grave iron]

how do you mean?

[hardy sand]

uh, i want to upload avatars, but the SDK wont let me because im not a high enough rank, how do i get to that trusted rank?

[desert elk]

play the game

(afk time doesn't count)

or buy vrc+

automatically makes you one rank higher

[hardy sand]

how long? i already have over 200 hours

[desert elk]

maybe send a screenshot of the shoes?

[desert elk]

ouch

yeah

that's gonna be fun

first i'd recommend fitting them to your model, move, scale, whatever

apply transforms

and google a weight painting tutorial

[junior void]

Why not use robust weight transfer

[desert elk]

idk what that is

[junior void]

An addon to copy weights from the base to the shoes in 3 clicks

Its not always perfect but very decent

[desert elk]

interesting

you could try that

would def be faster

[grave iron]

this avi did have other shoes already with it

dunno if that matters, i just want to change the shoes bc i dont likt the ones on it

[desert elk]

you can delete them

no problem

[high fable]

one is all the animations, the other is one of them not showing up when I search to add it

[grave iron]

i would have to be shown what to do bc i dont know anything about blender

[desert elk]

you're searching for a 2D image

not an animation

[distant hull]

Just buy vrc+ it took me about a year or 2 to get to trusted

[desert elk]

if the shoes are a separate material, you can separate by materials and deleye that you you need new user

not trusted user

[high fable]

how do I add an animation then

I'm super confused

[hardy sand]

... im broke

[distant hull]

Then just save up $10

[desert elk]

are the shoes a separate material? you can separate by materials and just delete that old mesh

in cats menu (n to bring it up)

[grave iron]

how do i open the cats thing?

[hardy sand]

well, my current rank is user, would getting vrc+ be enough to be trusted enough to upload?

[distant hull]

Nope I would bring you to “known user”

[desert elk]

vrc+ makes you go up one rank

[distant hull]

After that, you will just have to play the game for two months

[desert elk]

but isn't user higher than new user? did the trust rank rules change?

i rememeber it being new user

[desert elk]

n

[rigid spindle]

What specs on my oc sre required to make avatars??

[desert elk]

on your keyboard

[distant hull]

It is

[desert elk]

then why can't you upload avatars if you're user?

new user < user

[desert elk]

you pick a parameter

[distant hull]

When you became a user, did VR chat give you a message saying you can upload avatars?

[hardy sand]

no

[distant hull]

Welp

Thats why

You have to play the game a lot more until you get the message in game

[desert elk]

here

i have mine as ints, you may have bools, depends how you set it up

in the fx layer and stuff

[distant hull]

Ctrl + 6

[desert elk]

that's not what they wanted

[distant hull]

Oh😭

[high fable]

it came with a bunch of parameters I don't know which one to use for animation

[desert elk]

aren't they called some stuff that makes sense?

okay, did you record the animations yourself or were they premade?
if yourself, did you have an fx layer for them?
if premade, look for the fx layer for them

oh and i just saw

what's in the control folder?

if the files were premade they could be the menu there

[distant hull]

Steps?

[desert elk]

select the bone you want to merge in edit mode and go here
Cats > Optimatation > Bones > Merge Weight: To Parents

this is in blender 4.2

[grave iron]

which bone would you recommend and where do i find the bones

[desert elk]

the feet bones (toes if you have them), lower legs
idk how robust weight transfer works

[grave iron]

and my cats doesnt look like yours

[desert elk]

i never used it

[desert elk]

wdym?

[desert elk]

yeah mine is just collapsed

arrows

on the left side

and the colours are different cause i changed them

otherwise it's the same thing

[grave iron]

okay, so your not sure how to do the weight transfer?

[desert elk]

nope, i never used it

[grave iron]

gotcha

[junior void]

Its very intuitive

Theres a button and 1 field to fill what to copy from

[grave iron]

still confused on what i should be doing

[junior void]

Wait, youre the 'too many spine bones' guy?

Im confused now

[grave iron]

nope

im just trying to add shoes to an avatar

[junior void]

We established that you dont have an armature on them right

[grave iron]

yeah, i can add one to it though

[junior void]

So, check if you have vertex groups at all next

[grave iron]

i dont

but i copied what m other boots have

[junior void]

Copied what

[grave iron]

if thats not what im supposed to do lol

[junior void]

Creating vertex groups itself doesnt do anything

[grave iron]

okay then no i dont have anything

[junior void]

Each vertex group holds the weight painting and having empty ones is as good as having none so remove them

[grave iron]

alright

[junior void]

Install the addon called 'robust weight transfer' its free on jinxxy

Then you want to use that to copy weights from the body to the shoes so the ankles bend evenly. Did you get the shoes fitted shape wise yet?

You dont want the toes to stick through for example

[grave iron]

so this is good till blender 4.1 i downloaded 4.2 does that matter?

[junior void]

Youd have to try, i still use 3.6 lts

[grave iron]

okay, i was told to download 4.2

and no the shoes arent exact fit

also how do i open the robust once installed

[junior void]

Its in the n panel just like cats

Fit the shoes first though

The better they fit, the better the weight transfer will be

[grave iron]

alright how do i scale them?

the side of the feet clip a little bit

[junior void]

I really dont mind helping you out here but thats so bssec, please use the blender docs, videos or even ask chatgpt for a set of instructions

[grave iron]

i figured it out its fine

thanks for the input

[rigid spindle]

when im making an avatar what unity core 3d thing do i pick

[desert elk]

aren't there menus in the controller folder?

[high fable]

yeah

[desert elk]

just use those

[high fable]

not expression menus

I'm using one of the premade menus already

it's just not working

[noble abyss]

anybody had the issue that sliders just... dont work anymore?

[desert elk]

i'm sorry but i dont think i can help any way else

[desert elk]

slider? like radial wheels or what?

[noble abyss]

yeah like radial wheels connected to blendshapes

none on any avatar ive had (specifically like body shape sliders) have worked for months

and even some like object toggling sliders but those started working again

[high fable]

I'm having a similar issue where expressions just aren't working

[noble abyss]

ive never had expressions except one on specific avatar, but that was caused by poor setup by the original creator

[placid mica]

What does a lightmap do and where does it go on a material?

[grand scaffold]

Since avatars aren't typically lightmapped in the traditional way, nor does that look like a normal lightmap, it's probably meant for a custom shader that uses that for an effect.

[placid mica]

Ooh thank you

[grand scaffold]

np

[somber sequoia]

You can add a new mesh and parent it to whatever you want, sure. Doesn't have to be much special, you can tell the particle emitter to emit from vertices or faces iirc

[mossy jacinth]

im trying to make a vrc position constraint work but even with the constraint active the bone is not moving with the object

the source is being rotated by another bone and is slightly offset from it

this setup has worked before but randomly stopped working just now

this issue seems to be only affecting the one bone i want to be connected to the constraint

[earnest wind]

Does anyone happen to know why my textures in Unity are screwed up? This is the first time I've had an issue like this.

• Deleting and reimporting the textures didnt work; also applies to new textures exported from Substance Painter
• Switching Shaders doesn't work (Standard, Standard Lite, and a custom shader all show the same result as in Picture 3)

Any help is greatly appreciated

[arctic ginkgo]

Not 100% sure but maybe it's using the wrong uv map

Like if you have multiple uvs

[earnest wind]

ill double check blender

[mint fossil]

Anyone know why this keeps happening? I'm imoprting a model and as soon as I assign the materials from VRC parts of the mesh are going black (Emisions work good, but the base colors won't apply)
Not only that, it works with poyiomi shaders too, just the standard VRC mobile materials that seem to be doing this
(For context this model is ported from Maya to unity as an FBX)

I tried recalculating the outside in blender with shift + n but it didn't change anything, also I checked and it only has a single UV set so... any ideas? (First image is when I apply the "Standard Lite" material. Second image shows only the affected meshes when it has it's default imported materials, before applying the Standard lite)

[night ember]

vertex colors

[noble abyss]

any ideas?

[noble abyss]

adorable model btw

[mint fossil]

ty, commission I'm doing

[mossy jacinth]

does anyone know what causes physbones to refuse to stretch cus despite having the correct setup the bones are grabbable but they cant stretch at all

[arctic ginkgo]

They probably are stretching, physbone stretch just doesn't happen the way you might think it does

Is it a single physbone?

Because that won't stretch

[mossy jacinth]

its a chain of two

[arctic ginkgo]

Stretch works by moving the bones farther apart rather than scaling them

[arctic ginkgo]

Are they both weight painted? Or is one of them a leaf bone?

[mossy jacinth]

theyre both weight painted and arent leaf bones

i used the exact same armature for my other avis and never had issues

[arctic ginkgo]

Have you looked in avatar overlay and enabled physbones?

So you can see how the physbones themselves are behaving

[mossy jacinth]

my other bones are behaving just fine

its those specific ones im having issues with

everything works except the stretching

[arctic ginkgo]

Yes and have you looked at them with the physbone overlay?

[mossy jacinth]

lemme take a look

yep

[arctic ginkgo]

What are you seeing happen?

Also by chance could the transforms be affected by constraints, another physbone component, or animated?

[mossy jacinth]

they aren't connected to any constraints

theyre moving just fine

[arctic ginkgo]

So they are not stretching with the physbone overlay?

[pastel lark]

Can anyone link me to a specific tutorial revolving blend shapes and a blend shape wheel? I'd like to make a tail size adjustment wheel.

[mossy jacinth]

nope

[arctic ginkgo]

Look up radial puppet tutorial

It's the exact same except for your animation you animate the blendshape instead of whatever they animate in the video

And for the blendshape itself, go into blender, in the vertex data tab add a shapekey. Then select the shapekey, go into edit mode, and edit your mesh. Once you're done, select the basis shapekey and export your model to unity

[mossy jacinth]

ill expand the chain and see if that works

[pastel lark]

That is so many words I only vaguely understand

Thank you either way though

[arctic ginkgo]

If your tail has physbones it might be better to just animate scaling the root bone for the tail rather than using blendshapes

[desert elk]

Select a shape key - set it to 1, go into edit mode after while it's at 1

[arctic ginkgo]

It doesn't have to be set to 1

You just have to have it selected

[desert elk]

No?

[pastel lark]

thank you thank you

[desert elk]

All the tutorials I saw always said to set it at 1

Huh

[arctic ginkgo]

Yeah I'm sorry tbh I'm not sure why it isn't stretching

Maybe try adding an endpoint?

[pastel lark]

Eli I'm grabbing you by the neck like a stress ball and dragging you to DMS

[desert elk]

Yes 👍

[arctic ginkgo]

No I've never done that before

[desert elk]

I need to test that, cause it's news to me

[alpine flax]

could anyone tell me why my wings asset is disappearing in unity? It'll be visible for a few minutes, then vanish. I haven't found anything about my specific issue when looking it up. It should be within the light grey bounding box behind the avi

here's what it's supposed to look like

[winter nest]

When i try uploading this avi for quest it says that im over the mb (10.39) limit (10mb) but when i delete the hair to hopefully be under that it jumps up to 43.17 why is that and how can i fix it?

[gloomy flint]

ok so

the 10mb is the COMPRESSED size

the 40 is the UNCOMPRESSED size

so while something may be under 10 mb while compressed, the total file size (aka the uncompressed size) has to also stay under 40 mb

[winter nest]

maybe a little bit of a dumb question but how can i fix that coz ive deleted everything except the pants shirt and hair...and removed all textures except the body and face one

[gloomy flint]

did you shrink any of the textures? add any blendshape optimizers?

if the textures are still like 2048 resolution theyre gonna take up a lot of room on quest

[lone flax]

I keep trying to add a Clothing set to my Rindo base but vrc fury blendshape link says "no valid mappings found"

[gloomy flint]

do the clothes say theyre put on via vrcfury?

bc from experience usually booth avatars use Modular Avatar to put on clothes-

[winter nest]

i removed all the textures except the body and face one and some other minor ones but all the remaining textures are either 64 or 256 with low quality compression and crunch compression on 50 and i havent optimised any blendshapes (have no idea how to do that...)

[gloomy flint]

get VRCFury, Blub, and on the avatar descriptor in the Inspector, click Add Component and find Blendshape Optimizer

[lone flax]

The ones that came with rindo weren't but I'm adding a different one with VRCfury

[gloomy flint]

do the clothes have the same armature names as the body parts on the base?

[lone flax]

Lemme check

[gloomy flint]

like Upper Arm > Upper Arm, not Upperarm > Upper Arm

[lone flax]

All are the same exept JacketHips_root

there is no JacketHip_root on the base rindo

[winter nest]

already had vrc fury but i never even heard of that option. It worked like a charm tho and now my avi looks like something tysm!

[gloomy flint]

np!!

[gloomy flint]

maybe try using modular avatar to install the clothes?

[lone flax]

What's that?

[gloomy flint]

https://modular-avatar.nadena.dev/

Its a tool used mainly by booth creators to add clothes and such to avatars

[lone flax]

:o

[gloomy flint]

ive used it, and a LOT of booth clothes only use modular avatar and arent vrcfury compatible

[lone flax]

How do I know if ones compatible with Modular Avatars?

[gloomy flint]

usually says it in the description of it

'install using Modular Avatar' or 'import Modular Avatar into the project'

[lone flax]

Awsome, I'll check it out now

thanks :)

[gloomy flint]

np!

[dark jay]

idk what i added but when i jump my glasses flip down and up

how do i fix it

[gloomy flint]

theres probs a physbone

[runic forum]

i need help making a model

[desert elk]

what part do you need help with?

[runic forum]

im new to making avatars

so i need a lot of help

[desert elk]

okay, which part?

making avatars is a big process

[runic forum]

can we hop in a vr

[desert elk]

no

you have a question, you ask here

[runic forum]

i need help starting to make one

[desert elk]

from a base or from scratch?

[runic forum]

from scatch

[desert elk]

look up blender tutorials

dount

[waxen iris]

Does anyone might know how to make a second layer of the "Nanami the Shark" avatar?
so that id be able to make like a seetrough second layer
kinda like how Dr. Phosperus looks

cuz everything chatgpt told me doesnt work and there are no videos explaining such a thing

[somber sequoia]

unless you can do that in a fancy shader, maybe you could try to duplicate the model and scale it up a little.

(I've no idea what avatar you're referring to)

[hollow moon]

Hey, so I'm trying to make an avatar using a base that's open source for a group I'm a part of, and I'm trying to figure out how to make hand gestures for it, I found a video tutorial on it, but it suggests making a copy of the avatar but changing the hand to the gesture I want to make, but I don't really understand what that means.

[rotund solstice]

My prefab blendshape kinda broke- is there a way to fix this?

[cunning swan]

so my toggle doesn’t appear until i do the select gesture for shooting

[slim gale]

broken in what way? also what tool is on your side?

[slim gale]

could you provide more information on what your issue is exactly and what you are trying to do?

[slim gale]

if you are new i would suggest using the baked in hand gestures from VRChat sdk
if your model is less humanoid you may need to customize / animate them which is what the tutorial is most likely suggesting

[slim gale]

could you provide a photo of what you want / what it would look like?

[rotund solstice]

I am updating my VRM model for streams.
The thing on the side are all of the blendshapes the face is supposed to make for face tracking.

[slim gale]

oh, ive never done VRM, i wont be of much use. Apologys
hope someone a little more expirience can lend a hand

[waxen iris]

may I dm you for that?

[rotund solstice]

I do get this error but I'm unsure if that says anything.

[slim gale]

if its nsfw based please censor anything like such

[waxen iris]

i meant the character that im trying to make a reference of ^^,

[slim gale]

oh sure, are you not able to just send it here?

[waxen iris]

i mean i could but its not anything related to vr so id rather not send it here

[hollow moon]

Ok, so my model is a chibi sized avatar that is a hoppou base.

[slim gale]

if its a base doesnt it come with a unity scene that you can open with a pre-configured setup?

[hollow moon]

Not that I know of.

[slim gale]

is it a purchased base?

[hollow moon]

It was a base that hoppou legion gives to their members as open source.

[slim gale]

so is it just a mesh?

[dapper lagoon]

I'm trying to drag-and-drop a locomotion control script onto my avatar, but I keep getting errors
How do I actually implement the script?

[slim gale]

please be more specific with what script and how

[hollow moon]

I have no idea honestly, I am new to both blender and unity.

[dapper lagoon]

I'm dragging and dropping the locomotion control script that comes with the VRC SDK onto my avatar's inspector window, but I keep getting errors like "The script class can't be abstract" or "The script needs to derive from monobehaviour"

[left gull]

i could be wrong but iirc the base they use is a model not permitted for usage in vrchat

wouldnt be able to tell without a pic of it but they used to use a bowroll file that specifically said not to use in vrchat

[hollow moon]

This is a screen shot I took after I added stuff to it, or do you want a picture of the base pre-editing?

[left gull]

hmm that seems like its a custom one rather then any of the ones im thinking of so id imagine its fine

[slim gale]

looks like that one anime character

but they should have included a unity prefab with it or a scene if you downloaded a .unitypackage

[hollow moon]

I downloaded the base and a package that was a unity package thing, I don't remember what exactly it was, because it's been a while since I looked at the files.

[slim gale]

can you please show me what your full screen looks like in unity?

[hollow moon]

Here's a screenshot of the full unity view.

[slim gale]

that should be the unity file

/ scene
unless thats the one you created

otherwise this is more than likely just an FBX, so id refer to "making your first avatar" doc by vrchat

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/creating-your-first-avatar/

[dapper lagoon]

Bumping in case anyone might know the answer

[slim gale]

can you please provide a screenshot of said errors / issues? and please include the full screenshot

[dapper lagoon]

Here's a full screenshot and another error message

[slim gale]

ahh, copy it and import it into your assets IIRC

[dapper lagoon]

I get the same errors when I duplicate them into my assets

[hollow moon]

I decided to get a better screenshot of that thing you pointed to with the arrow, is that what you were thinking of?

[slim gale]

yeah it just looks like a custom scene you made, so you will need to use the vrcdocs to learn how to make this thing from mesh to avatar

if this is your first time ever, do be warned this isnt an easy process and thats why a lot of people opt to use bases that are preset up and just customize those

[hollow moon]

I see, ok, sorry, I wasn't sure because I am new to avatar creation, and the base I got I actually asked for help with it from the hoppou legion, helped me through the process with blender and unity, but there were still parts that I don't quite understand.

[slim gale]

if i had to guess, someone has 100% already done a pre-set up package. i would suggest asking around and just nabbing that
but if you want to learn use the doc i linked above

[hollow moon]

I do want to learn, so that way if something like this happens in the future, I'm not panicking and wondering what to do.

Like I am now.

[raven sun]

Hi everyone. I am currently building an avatar and testing it with a headset shows all the proportions out of wack. The avatar stands on tiptoes, arms seem to be too short and yet when I rest my arms fully the elbows point backwards. My main issue currently is that for some reason whenever I tilt my head in any direction the whole body moves with it, and I have absolutely no clue what could cause it or how to fix it. I checked the parenting of all bones twice in blender and unity and it's all fine.

[slim gale]

this isnt a full screenshot as i asked, please just use print screen

i need to see more of whats going on in your unity

also i quickly tested in my own file
i was able to ctrl c and ctrl v it, so that leads me to believe your SDK is outdated or one of your scripts are

[slim gale]

sounds like weight painting issues, are the weights in blender proper?

[coral mountain]

How do you do quest fallowers?? (Please ping me) I found a tutorial and it didn't help (sorry to interupt)

[rotund solstice]

Do you by chance have fbt turned on on vrc?

[raven sun]

no fbt

[dapper lagoon]

I can copy and paste it just fine, but the errors that appear when actually applying it to the avatar persist

[raven sun]

weight painting is fine, posing the model in blender doesn't reveal any issues

[slim gale]

so its probably as i said, you have an outdated script or your vrcsdk is out of date
if you use VCC check your project imports and see

[slim gale]

hows the rig in unity? is it set up properly and with the right humanoid configuration?

[dapper lagoon]

the only thing that needs updating is VRCFury, the SDK and Unity themselves are up-to-date

I'm not sure why this is happening

[slim gale]

i still have not seen a full photo of your screen, also have you imported any other unitypackages with scripts in them?

[dapper lagoon]

Full SS and packages

[slim gale]

if i had to guess it looks like vrclabs instancer is causing your issue, unimport it and see if the error goes away

repeat this for each custom script and youll more than likely find the culprit

[raven sun]

As far as I can see everything is set up correctly. Though it does look weird around the chest

[dapper lagoon]

Let's try it

[slim gale]

are you using gogo? also i think this exact issue showed up earlier, ill see if i can find the solution
also how are you importing the model?

[dapper lagoon]

Doesn't look like I can remove it due to it being a necessary component of DampeningConstraints, but I'm sure I can get this to work and add it later

[slim gale]

are you using dampening constraints on your avatar? if so try downloading just the prefab rather than using VCC to import it

https://github.com/VRLabs/Damping-Constraints/releases/tag/1.0.3

[raven sun]

this iteration of the avatar doesn't have gogo on it. I just export it from blender into an fbx and drag and drop from the folder

[dapper lagoon]

Removing custom packages didn't solve the issue either
Normal Unity users have this issue as well, so I might do some research there

[slim gale]

thats probably the issue, did you change anything from the export?
if so try making a copy rather than replacing and using pumpkins tools to transfer your setup

[slim gale]

you could try the classic close and open and see if it rerunning resolves and missed scripts

[raven sun]

the video I took is basically a start of a new project. I dragged and dropped and directly went to the rig without changing anything about it.
I also have no clue how to use pumpkins tools

[slim gale]

https://youtu.be/cFwMbQ7Ivs8

[upper shoal]

wtff??

[slim gale]

sometimes the sdk doesnt update on changes, see if reopening it updates the rank and see if there are any new issues with it

[upper shoal]

same thing happened

[raven sun]

so just to be clear, is this an issue with how I import the model?

[slim gale]

to clerify, does your model transform only when in game? or is it in unity view too?

[upper shoal]

nvm its not happening on my gfs pc so idc lol

[slim gale]

is it avaliable / uploaded to both pc and android?

[upper shoal]

yea but its working as a fallback on my gfs pc so it doesnt matter

[slim gale]

odd, could be antivirus or an outdated import/script then

[raven sun]

the issue is only in game and only in vr.
I tried to make a video of it but my pc decided to die so its very low frame rate. Still you can see the feet move, even though the only thing I'm doing is moving my head. (you can ignore the eyelashes phasing in and out)

[slim gale]

thats 100% a weight painting issue

those 2 parts are probably mis-painted to another bone somewhere

you can isolate them in blender and remove all the vertet groups but the head

[raven sun]

well lemme try

[raven sun]

wait are you talking about the eyelashes or the feet moving?

[slim gale]

eyelashes

im assuming thats ur issue

[raven sun]

the eyelashes I just forgot to reasign to the head vertex group after tweaking them, I know how to fix that

[raven sun]

I'm talking about the rest of the body shifting with the head. I can't take a better video currently so apologies for that, but I'm only trying to move my head and that shifts the whole body in a weird way.