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[wind skiff]

how are you toggling the meshes?

and are they always on at the same time?

[somber sequoia]

if you mean clothing parts, UV tile discarding

[wind skiff]

i see

issue with that is that their textures will always remain loaded

[somber sequoia]

not worried, I almost never have over about 40MB of texture memory anyway

[wind skiff]

and, while better than blendshapes or other methods than uv discarding, they still require draw calls

[somber sequoia]

right but it's a single drawcall

[wind skiff]

fair enough

[mental estuary]

No it's not?

If you have different materials for those clothing, even on the same mesh, it's separate draw calls

[wind skiff]

if

sounds to me like it's all using the same mat

[somber sequoia]

Correct, but I didn't say I was using multiple materials, at least in most cases.

[mental estuary]

Then you should state that. I read it as you having multiple materials for each clothing item

Other people would to

[wind skiff]

what specifically read as that?

[somber sequoia]

OK, I wouldn't have made that jump without being specifically told, but I can see how you might have.

[mental estuary]

Merging everything in Blender keeps the materials separated

You have to combine the materials

[wind skiff]

not if its assigned to the same mat already, no

[somber sequoia]

Yes - but most of the stuff I'm talking about is already one material

[mental estuary]

No, but if they're separate clothing items that you're merging yourself, they won't be using the same material by default

[somber sequoia]

I can definitely see why you may have assumed this

[mental estuary]

A lot of people think that you just merge everything into a single mesh and that's optimal, when half the time it's not

[somber sequoia]

Yeah that's not the best

[mental estuary]

Each separate material still gets imported into Unity as a submesh internally anyway

[spark walrus]

was wondering, if i imported a model into unity then put it in a scene, then i went and modified it in blender and replaced the fbx, how would i go about fixing the bug where the model doesnt show up at all

[somber sequoia]

Use the same export settings as the previous export, and also do not unpack the avatar prefab in Unity

[spark walrus]

what if its already unpacked

[somber sequoia]

Use pumkin's tools to transfer everything to a packed one and don't unpack

[spark walrus]

got a link to the tools for me?

[somber sequoia]

no but search for "pumkin's avatar tools" should find it quick

[spark walrus]

in the server or in unity

or on google

[somber sequoia]

your web search tool of choice

(I like duckduckgo)

[spark walrus]

alrighty got it

[copper escarp]

hey does anyone know where i can find the model for this tail? (ive seen it on multiple mayu's but i cant seem to find the model of it)

[trim tiger]

anyone know what exactly makes particles work in warhammer pvp worlds? mine do nothing despite having collisions with everything and collision messages

[somber sequoia]

iirc collision messages don't do anything on vrchat avatars

[trim tiger]

then what is it that makes them work

they have collisions with everything

they send collision messages

do warhammer pvp avatars have triggers??

[somber sequoia]

I wasn't aware these worlds existed, so definitely don't know what they do

[trim tiger]

the worlds where avatar particles do damage

and apply various status effects and whatnot

[somber sequoia]

news to me, that sounds cool

[trim tiger]

m

well anyways if anyone knows what causes avatar particles to do damage in avatar pvp worlds let me know please

[somber sequoia]

Please do it here, I want to know too 🙂

[shadow drift]

My model's hair is changing color specifically at different angles, this happens in vrcc unity and in vr chat. I'm unsure how to fix it?

Perhaps a shader issue..

[crystal kernel]

theres a vrc package for raycasting

maybe they use that

[trim tiger]

they don't use raycasts though

they're particles with travel time

and the travel time matters

[shadow drift]

it appears to be some form of shader issue

[trim tiger]

check light probes

[shadow drift]

that didn't do anything for me for some reason but it is related to the shader color step

oh well ive got it functioning now

[mossy jacinth]

any vrcfury users know how to fix this error? i used the same setup on my other avatars and never encountered it

[somber sequoia]

look at what animations are in the states in that layer. I'm assuming there's none and that's what VRCFury is saying, it'll just remove them

you can make an empty animation if the states shouldn't actually do any animations, like if they're just parameter drivers or something

[mossy jacinth]

there are animations in that layer

the exact same type of animations vrcfury accepted before

[somber sequoia]

ah well, that was my only guess. There's a VRC Fury discord too though.

oh hmm, are the animations in that layer actually valid? Maybe they refer to avatar components that aren't present?

[mossy jacinth]

the animations only affect the models blendshapes, and they work in the previews

[somber sequoia]

huh, weird then

[mossy jacinth]

i tried disabling vrc fury and they still dont work,

the debugger says the parameters are being changed but the animations arent being played

[wind skiff]

virtually always when vrcfury says a layer doesn't contain valid animations, it indeed does not

[woven totem]

how can someone make avatar constraints between quest and pc?

[night ember]

just upload the same constraints to both platforms?

[somber sequoia]

also use VRC constraints, rather than Unity ones

[mossy jacinth]

i found the issue, the animator components are only valid in the editor when i click the skinned mesh renderer, which is weird cus normally the compents are valid when i click the parent

[woven totem]

and how can someone do that?

[night ember]

just use the same constraints?

[woven totem]

how can someone use constraints?

[somber sequoia]

documentation: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-dynamics/constraints/

[mossy jacinth]

i fixed it somehow but i have no idea how

i just need to remake all the animations (yay!)

[somber sequoia]

what fun

[fluid birch]

does anyone know how to fix this artifact? strange shadow-ey lines on certain places of the model, it does not show up in blender, but it does show up when in unity preview / ingame.

all of my UV texturing makes sure to include a few pixels already, so it's not some stray pixels getting in or anything

[crystal kernel]

have you compressed the material image?

[somber meadow]

That is mipmapping and the texture not having enough padding

Add more white pixels to the edges of the uvs

[fluid birch]

oh ok so i've found out yea that is the case, not enough pixel padding. but it is curious on how much is really needed since when im close to the mirror (less than 1 ft), it looks fine

then when i back up 5 feet or more i start to see the lines. looks like some dynamic texture compressing for VRchat avatars, makes sense

so i'll have to max out the padding and might need to remap uv to have white be the base color and color in black

[inner perch]

anyone know how to fix this? Im trying to upload an avatar to quest

[somber sequoia]

8 errors: share the first 2-3 (at the top)

er, 9, I gotta make my font bigger.

[inner perch]

i can get a better picture

[somber sequoia]

just the top few errors

[inner perch]

this should be all of them

[somber sequoia]

hmm looks like issues with package versions. close Unity, go into VCC and upgrade everything that has an upgrade available

[inner perch]

alr

Everything worked up to here. Where do I find the Shader?

Anyone?

[somber sequoia]

it's on one of the materials.... hard to say which though, unfortunately

[inner perch]

Oh i know Im only using one material

[somber sequoia]

oh, then look at that one

[inner perch]

What should I set it too

[somber sequoia]

as it says, one of the ones under VRChat/Mobile.

details are here: https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/quest-content-limitations#shaders

which you pick depends on what you want your avatar to look like

[inner perch]

I tried, It completely breaks my texture

[somber sequoia]

in what way, specifically?

[inner perch]

Im tring to use my mc skin it works on pc but i dont think i can get it to work for quest

its alright

Thanks a lot for the help though

[somber sequoia]

okay. There are a few common cases that are easy to spot if you can describe it but up to you

[inner perch]

alr

Heres what standard shader look like

This is standard light

[somber sequoia]

hmm, could be vertex colors, the vrchat shaders use those. You can remove those in Blender or I believe with vrc quest tools

[inner perch]

all right. Im probably gona try to get this to work some other time

Thanks for you help

[cunning swan]

idk why hes black tried a new material and its not working

[left gull]

are your normals inverted possibly?

[cunning swan]

let me check in blender

the normals are alright

when i convert the shader to a quest one he becomes black

@left gull

[left gull]

any vertex colours on the model?

[cunning swan]

how do i check that in blender

[left gull]

its one of the dropdowns under the shapekey/blendshape section

err lemme get a screenie

there

make sure theres none there

[cunning swan]

yea i dont have vertex colors

[left gull]

hmm

what does the material look like in the inspector?

[cunning swan]

\

without the quest shader

[somber sequoia]

vertex colors?

oh that got asked

[cunning swan]

no

[left gull]

does it still look black when the normal map is removed?

[cunning swan]

yes

[left gull]

damn

[somber sequoia]

do you have the metallic cranked up?

[cunning swan]

0.5 in blender

[somber sequoia]

yeah that might be just with worlds though

[cunning swan]

convert the model from a fmdl which mgs5 uses to dae file

[timber wharf]

❔

[somber sequoia]

nevermind, I was having weird issues with metallic too high in some world lighting situation, it likely wouldn't apply here

[left gull]

err you could swap shaders to one of the other ones under VRChat/Mobile/ and see if any of those work though i cant remember which ones do and dont have normal map support

[timber wharf]

@cunning swan are you on like proper latest sdk n stuff?

[cunning swan]

yea

[smoky matrix]

Does anyone here know why parameters would say that there is still not enough space when I have removed and added avatar compressor?

I have tried everything

[cunning swan]

this wha happens when i use a quest shader

[smoky matrix]

and I am getting rlly annoyed at unity

[timber wharf]

then it should mess up stuff in unity editor too

and that means your maps are not vrc made one, read docs for standard lite and fix maps me guess your metallic is inverted

[cunning swan]

idk im already pissed because i tried to convert something from mgs5 to a normal texture file

[timber wharf]

cant expect to rip stiff from other sources and expect vrc shaders to work along

supposed to be hand made

[left gull]

are you adding stuff with VRCFury during upload? they dont tend to add the params unless the upload is successful iirc

[smoky matrix]

Nope, not during upload

[left gull]

hmm, you could try VRCFury's unlimited parameter script if your model is planned to be a personal and isnt using any crazy setups toggle-wise as a temporary fix

your unity might be bugged out a bit though so saving and re-opening the scene might update your parameter size if you actually deleted stuff from the list

[smoky matrix]

Already tried this, still won't work with. I also tried saving and reopening the scene

[cunning swan]

maybe just ddog

[timber wharf]

@left gull with upcoming distance animator disabler id be very conservative about timing stuff through time

[mossy jacinth]

is there a way to make a toggle be able to disable visemes?

i use very wacky facial expressions that just dont get along with em

[fresh raft]

Does anyone know how to fix this? It will not let me edit the avi info, no matter if I close out and restart unity, or close the tab

[mossy jacinth]

could just be taking a while to load

[fresh raft]

It wont load, even after the 2 hours we have been out

[somber meadow]

Look in the console for spammed errors, and clear the pipeline manager if you haven't already (if this is a new avatar)

[somber sequoia]

you can use VRC Animator Tracking Control to disable them
https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#animator-tracking-control

[mossy jacinth]

ty

[fresh raft]

nothing is working stll

I am gonna try to see if a new project will help

[hollow hemlock]

Is there any way to make the dissolved color transparency change after lock in the material ?? I want to make dissolve animation when turn on the clothes and change the texture. At first, it works, but after i lock in the material, when i tried to change texture animation it just make my clothes dissapear since the dissolve transparency locked

[somber sequoia]

Right click it and pick "animated when locked"

you can't actually swap the texture, but you can change color or scaling/tile parameters

If you want to actually swap texture, you need two materials and an animation - dissolve the first, swap to the second one, and un-dissolve

[somber meadow]

Can you provide a screenshot of your console

[fresh raft]

There is literally nothing in there

no errors or warnigns at all

[somber meadow]

You might of disabled errors from appearing in the console. The top right of the console has buttons to unhide/hide debug,warnings, and errors

[fresh raft]

Nope, I have everything shown

[somber meadow]

Then I'll assume it's due to connection issues with VRChat on your network, there's troublshooting steps on this page https://wiki.vrchat.com/wiki/Community:Connection_Issues

[hollow hemlock]

If i record different material dissolve alpha it still count as 1 material on the animation. The problem is if i change the material after dissolving the first one, my avatar will be naked for the first second, is there any way to make the dissolve animation for the two material happen at the same time

[somber sequoia]

do you have two animations or something? I'd do it in one.

[hollow hemlock]

For this clothes i have two animations, the one is for the turn on, and the other one is for change the texture/material

[somber sequoia]

I mean for the swap specifically

[hollow hemlock]

Only one for the swap texture/material

[somber sequoia]

show that animation instead of that last image

[hollow hemlock]

Actually i figured it out i can just make material with invert main texture and dissolved texture and then do the animation. But the turn off animation didnt work cuz i changed the material

[hollow hemlock]

What i mean bout the turn off animation didnt work is like this

[somber sequoia]

hey that looks pretty good

[gentle sparrow]

quick question, the nkd proto is a fbx file, do i just import it or do something else ?

[somber sequoia]

import the fbx into unity, do the rest of the avatar setup stuff (watch tutorial videos)

[proud tusk]

I'm havin' an issue with physbones on a model, it's workin' on PC, but not for Quest and I added the bones to the Quest version and uploaded before I tested earlier

[jade wave]

anyone know of any good eye look settings

[proven trellis]

Ehh... how do I fix something like this?.. like this on both hands.

Fine in editor, obviously

[mossy jacinth]

might have something to do with the bone rolls

[golden mantle]

How can I edit the default radial menu? New to this and wanted to know how I could be able to see these toggles; for example to move them around or deleting "motion"

[deep sky]

how can I remove gonso's license ? I have the receipt and everything if u need it, but this shit keeps me from being able to edit avatars

[cunning swan]

how can i make a physbone go all over

[left gull]

removing gonso isnt permitted on the model's you've purchased its in-place to prevent avatar leaking and edits, anyone helping you with it would be helping commit piracy and isnt allowed here

you're kinda SOL in that aspect but you could always contact the creator about it or if the creator cant/wont help worst case scenario contact the site where you purchased the model from about a refund (though this sometimes wont work and will 100% get you blacklisted from purchasing models from that creator and their friends again)

[deep sky]

Bruh I hate this gonso license bruh, I can't edit avis anymore cause of it, even creators who don'tcare if u edit their avis, and it's not like I'm leaking it either

I wanna be able to edit the avatar I bought

and also like 90% of creators don't do refunds

I get what u mean tho

[rapid mist]

you're kind of out of luck just don't buy a model that has that license in future

[left gull]

yes it sucks but that's why you should contact the creator directly before a purchase (and though few offer it its always good to reach out just in-case)

wish they'd say it uses gonso on their pages though atleast in the description somewhere

[deep sky]

and that's what I'm trying to say

[deep sky]

so ur comment was weird

[left gull]

Which creator was it that you purchased from?

[rapid mist]

so their store Page doesn't mention the don't edit it anywhere in its terms of service?

[fluid birch]

How do i know if my avatar can be seen by other people? I have the "build and test" avatar ready and viewable by me in my private instances, but how do i make it public or how does that work?

[night ember]

Upload it

[fluid birch]

It's under the "other" section of my avatar selection, and i can set my avatar to it

other people are not able to see it

and other people i mean pc users/pcvr

not worried about quest right now

[left gull]

test uploads wont load because they're not actually uploaded its all local to your account

[fluid birch]

do i go onto the website or sm

[night ember]

U p l o a d it

[rapid mist]

you use Unity to upload an avatar

[night ember]

Dont build and test

[left gull]

it should be a little checkbox near the bottom of the upload panel iirc

[rapid mist]

https://youtu.be/rRAnDMUbWt8?si=AMDnHI8xNf4L8To9&t=514

official vrchat video tutorial on uploading avatars

[fluid birch]

oh it was this i had on private

[night ember]

No?

Public means others can clone and wear it

Private means only you can wear it

[rapid mist]

watch the video tutorial

[fluid birch]

o ok i will reference the above video

[graceful mango]

anyone who owns manuka or atleast know how she works, how do i add a custom expression?

[meager warren]

hey, how can i prevent this from happening

[ornate stump]

Do you know which part of the body?

[meager warren]

yeah it's the ears

[ornate stump]

Try set physbone limit angle, or set immobile type to world.

[frank spruce]

Does anyone know why my avatar is in the ground and why his feet are backwards?

[desert elk]

did you apply transforms when exporting from blender?

[frank spruce]

I did not

I'll try that

[frank spruce]

Its still broken

[junior void]

are the knees slightly bent so that the ik knows which way is forward?

[frank spruce]

That shouldn't effect it. I bent the bone in edit mode slightly and its still giving me the same issue

The legs aren't backwards its just the feet

[junior void]

Its about the rest pose, not how you pose. It's either the knee is too straight and/or your foot bone, which we cannot see here, is not facing forward. But since you don't seem to want to try suggestions so, good luck.

[summer hearth]

So I uploaded an avatar yesterday and it was fine, 39.98 on the uncompressed, and 8.43 megabytes, but I added a staff to it that I decided to take off today, but when I took the staff off and tried to reupload it, the avatar now says it's at 18.98 megabytes, and at 45.5 uncompressed

And I only took the staff off

And I tried putting it back on and uploading it to see if I did something wrong, and it went to 19 megabytes

[vapid hamlet]

Trying to cutout the legs and arms with alpha mask but i can't put both into the same one mask. I can either choose one or the other, is there a way i can possibly add multiple? I've tried cutting out the mask to fit both and it still makes unity like "????"

[junior void]

well this depends on the uv

maybe show what you did

[vapid hamlet]

shit, the uv might be that brick wall

the more transparent ones are the legs

the more whiter ones are the arms

i tried merging them and it didnt work, i tried cutting out the duplicates and it didnt work either

i deleted a specific part to see if anything will change, it just.. transparents it? its so weird

i inverted

[junior void]

you know, usually an alpha mask is a black and white image

[vapid hamlet]

i inverted the colors

didnt work sadly

[junior void]

how this works also depends on the shader youre using

[vapid hamlet]

liltoon

i tried inverting the colors to black and white, didnt work

it did its thing of hiding the entire body

[magic sable]

Hey guys! I'm trying to make a gun system that's is able to swap hands but I'm encountering this problem of the hand not tracking (already setup a Animation Tracking CTRL)... For now everything is in the FX Layer... If I move to the Gesture layer it still not working plus the fact the animation of the swapping is not working anymore

Can someone give me a little help? :/

[junior void]

whats your rendering mode, where did you add the mask? share your shader settings

[vapid hamlet]

i added the mask in "Alpha Mask" in liltoon on replace.

rendering mode? erm

where would i find that perhaps again?

OH YEA

nvm found it, it's on cutout

Like i said though the legs and arms by itself alpha wise is perfect, but not both

[junior void]

i see no reason why that would be as your arms and legs are on the same uv. so technically, this here should work (pay attention to the mask being a black and white image, not a transparent one)

[vapid hamlet]

Did that excatly and it didnt do anything

transparency up, body gone

cutoff up, body gone

[junior void]

are you sure the image you got is for this avatars uv?

[vapid hamlet]

yes its specifically for the avatar "Manuka"

[vapid hamlet]

they match as shown here

its just one is for arms, one for legs

idk how i somehow confused unity

[junior void]

beats me. i did this once and worked perfectly. but its been a while

i prefer poiyomi so there goes that

[vapid hamlet]

guess option #2 it is

i tried with poyomi too, been also confusing it

it does the same thing regardless

[junior void]

isnt there also an import setting thing where you can set it to use alpha from color vs alpha from actual alpha channel

maybe thats set wrong?

[vapid hamlet]

it is 6am and i realized i did the mask entirely wrong

thanks for your help

[magic sable]

Update: I swapped again on the gesture layer (parameters were missing), but now if the animation is not played yet hand gestutr is working but if I play the animation the hand gesture is not working anymore

[sleek bramble]

Does anyone know if its possible to change where the avatar speaks from and hears from? As far as i can tell its the head but i cant see where in the head or if thats even possible to change, Like can i for example move my "mouth" to my hand?

[summer hearth]

As long as it has visemes you can

Or you can make It so if you talk if you have it set up the right way it can move the things you want to talk

But have to set up an animation for that

[sleek bramble]

would this move where the audio comes from as well?

[hollow hemlock]

Howd i make sit point collider on the quest version ?? Ive tried to use box collider but the validations doesnt allow me

[balmy barn]

remove box collider, seat get some auto box one (only tested this on pc but they do appear)

[hollow hemlock]

I use the empty gameobject for now, but it covering the wholemap

[trim tiger]

@somber sequoia did anyone end up figuring out what makes pvp worlds do their shtick

[somber sequoia]

I haven't heard anything or looked into it yet

[trim tiger]

well shit

let me see if the fellas in the worlds & udon section have any ideas

[hot marsh]

With the new VRC Parent Constraints, how do you reset the "Freeze To World" position?

I have an empty as a source set toas a source, and that moves with my avatar. But checking "Freeze to World" box - even with rebake set - doesn't set the new position to be the emptys current position. 🤔

[golden pecan]

howww do i make it do tpose instead of bike pose. disabling preview mode and switching the animator doesnt work

[junior void]

pumpkins avatar tools -> avatar poser or use a new fbx, perhaps transfer items over also using pumpkins

[errant plover]

does anyone know why this is happening to my friends avatar

i thought he had something on the animator but its empty

im not sure what else could cause it

[somber sequoia]

you need to explain what "this" is

[errant plover]

its stuck in a pose?

[junior void]

check the rig config page for errors

if the animator seems fine, likely something broke the humanoid rig config

[silk thorn]

Clear playables in VRC descriptor and see if the avatar is still doing it.

[errant plover]

where is that in the descriptor

never mind

i didn't know what you meant but now i do

[stuck grotto]

im confused about this, it seems contradictory?

so is it still the case that without three fingers, there won't be IK for the lower body?

[timber wharf]

its says sdk2, its not in use for like 5 years

fingerless models work just fine can confirm myself.

[stuck grotto]

ok cool ty

[quaint thistle]

How could I use imposter settings to show a game object that's normally hidden?

[buoyant wraith]

Trying to figure out why weight painting on this one mesh looks fine in Blender but messed up in Unity and in-game (jagged, some vertices stuck in place). anyone have general pointers on why this might happen 🤔

[silk thorn]

show the weight paint, also, you should look at the local bones, you may need to smooth bones near it.

[pure isle]

does anyone have tips and tricks using poi to make a crystal like effect? i have reflections and matcap but i feel like there is something more fun i could do?

[crystal kernel]

emission?

theres also a glitter option

[wide swan]

hi, so i got to notice that anytime i look up and down, the chest and the whole avatar is going to move up and down as well for most avatars, is there any ways found to fix that yet?

[shadow drift]

Sorry for the dumb question but my avatar came with this fully modeled gun, and I want her to be able to draw it. But it seems firmly rooted to her leg. I'm unsure what's rooting it in place. I'm unsure what to look up to find out.

[long sedge]

henlo! help

[long sedge]

this is not a moveable sprite, its basically just a brick that is attached to the avatars hips

there is a way to make it work, but that process is far above my pay grade

[pure isle]

This is probably a shot in the dark but try uppacking the prefab?

[shadow drift]

Hm worth a try, thanks.

[somber meadow]

What preprocess tool are you using? VRCFury, or Modular Avatar?

[long sedge]

VRCFury

it has been updated

did not fix all of the errors

[somber meadow]

Something added from VRCFury has streaming mipmaps off on a texture

usually VRCF enables it

[long sedge]

ughhh

where would i look for it?

[somber meadow]

look in the assets responsible for your vrcfury prefabs and look through the textures, and make sure the streaming mip maps is enabled

[long sedge]

all of my assets are vrcfury ;-;

[long sedge]

these are thems?

[somber meadow]

mip streaming would be the option, yes

[long sedge]

okay perfect

[wicked bear]

Tried to go on my own as far as I can, but can't get past this

[somber meadow]

Show the details of the last error

[wicked bear]

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder+<>c.<CreateContentInfoGUI>b__85_0 (System.String selected) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:1364)
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[wicked bear]

The thing that really confuses me is that the offline test thing always works but the actual publishing never does

[wind skiff]

that error is likely a red herring

could you screenshot the full log when trying to build and publish?

[wind skiff]

what is your avatar named?

[wicked bear]

"Base"

[wind skiff]

in the sdk

[wicked bear]

If I remember right I think it was
herewegoagain

[wind skiff]

could you screenshot the sdk builder panel?

[wind skiff]

not the avatar descriptor, the vrchat sdk window where you upload

[wicked bear]

It looks like this

spawns two errors everytime I flip between the authentication and the builder page

[long sedge]

you dont have an avatar name or description?

that is weird

id suggest restarting unity

make sure to save

[wicked bear]

I've been restarting unity, this is my 4th round

It's weird isn't it?

[long sedge]

unity moment

try re-logging in?

[wicked bear]

Everytime it does the same thing though, so at this point I'm just gonna have to leave it to whoever is genius enough here to figure it out

[long sedge]

like in the auth tab

[wicked bear]

You mean to the sdk?

It's been doing that too

[long sedge]

bruh

[wicked bear]

In fact it's not letting me do the publish until I do that, only for it to fail and then I'm back to the grayed out screen with errors

this goes crazy

[long sedge]

really heckin wierd

try making a new project and see if that will work

[wicked bear]

Oh trust me I'm also on my fourth project

[long sedge]

????????

reinstall unity?

[wicked bear]

I've been making a new project everytime it fucks up

[long sedge]

idk

thats fuckjed

[wicked bear]

chat is it over

Am I doomed to never upload vrchat avatars

[long sedge]

nah, its just a Certified Unity Moment

[prisma sedge]

Just to check what version of unity and the sdk are you using?

[long sedge]

2022.3.22f1

[long sedge]

your using 2023

neeever mind

im dislexyia

are you on linux?

[wicked bear]

windows

[long sedge]

whgat the actual fuck

yeah idk reinstall unity

thats all i can suggest

[wicked bear]

[long sedge]

it fixes things sometimes

but like wtf

why is unity like this

[wicked bear]

Alrighty unity reinstall we go

[long sedge]

godspeed goober

[wicked bear]

thanks goober

[wicked bear]

still failing

[long sedge]

what

the

fuck

[wicked bear]

actually over

[long sedge]

I

I have nothing

contact a preist

idk

[wicked bear]

At this point I'm probably better off uploading the damn thing and hoping someone figures it out

[tranquil ocean]

Sorry if this isnt possible but Im trying to set up a avatar so that it can have two sets of gestures on it that can be swapped out by a toggle. How can this be achieved? What about what I have set up is wrong?

[tiny spire]

Does anyone know what causes this issue? im adding some clothes to this avatar but when i use the avatar ingame or test it in play mode

it just gets curled up into a ball

[somber sequoia]

that's about how I'd do it

[somber meadow]

Configure the rig in the model's import settings, click pose>reset in the inspector, and then pose>enforce t-pose

[tiny spire]

You are a legend ❤️

[last shoal]

alrighty, i have an avatar where the audio crackles/ statics the hell out, but not for me only for other people

if anyone has any idea on what that could be, pls reach out or somethin

[boreal lintel]

Does anyone recommend a good avatar creation software I can use that is also beginner friendly?

[somber sequoia]

well you need Unity at the least. Beyond that... are you building from scratch? Or you got a base and want to modify it? Need more info.

[boreal lintel]

Would prefer having some type of like base avatar I can edit and add custom accessories too. But I can also make one from scratch.

[somber sequoia]

that's pretty inconclusive... so uh... Unity at least.

[boreal lintel]

Alr

Also anyone know why VCC keeps saying there isn't a unity editor file when I have unity editor installed?

[somber sequoia]

is it the right unity?
if so I think you can tell VCC where it is? I'm not 100% sure, I don't use it

[boreal lintel]

It's like unity.66014 or smthn like that.

I downloaded Unity HUB from where vrChat character creation support page told me too

[somber sequoia]

oh, that's why

I encourage you to thoroughly read VRChat's docs on this, they're pretty clear as to how to get started, and that includes installing the latest supported Unity, which is 2022.3.22f1

https://vcc.docs.vrchat.com/guides/getting-started

[echo dune]

I forget how to make a facial animation not play when playing a different animation on the FX layer if someone can remind meee

i thought it was like this but seems im wrong

[somber sequoia]

that's definitely a way to do it

[echo dune]

doesn't seem to be working for me

[somber sequoia]

unfortunately, you'd have to check all the materials you use on the avatar

haha yeah, it's there somewhere 🙂

[echo dune]

yeah hmm, the original facial expressions still plays' over this animation so it doubles up and uses both facial expressions at once

[somber sequoia]

hmm I thought you have to put that on an animation state before your actual animation

[echo dune]

not sure i understand :v

like maybe I should put this tracking controler on the original facial expressions?

[crystal kernel]

I mean can't you have a bool like... face_anim_x-on and that checks for it?

And if its false exit to an idle state

[somber sequoia]

entry -> wait for expression -> set tracking control -> do actual animation -> restore tracking control -> exit

[somber sequoia]

you definitely can do this too

[gritty rover]

Yo question for yall

Can you create avatars on a macbook?

[somber sequoia]

yes

[torn parcel]

unity and blender can both be downloaded for mac

[meager warren]

How do i make the blendshape options default/permanent? so if i export the model to VRM the blendshape changes stay

[pure isle]

i dont even know where to start for asking help about this.
the only thing ive done is specifically change the fbx of the dress to fix some clipping.
when i went to test her it has her stuck in t-pose and the perspective pov is rapidly zooming when i move my mouse?

in unity the orb is where it needs to be in her face and hasnt been touched since last testing

[spark walrus]

Anyone know why my hinge physbones work perfectly in Unity game preview but in game they dont act as hinges?

[spark walrus]

What do you mean VRM

[meager warren]

its a file format for like desktop mate or vtubing

[spark walrus]

I would apply them through Blender by applying them to your basis so they are permanent

[meager warren]

i tried that and it fucked up the lighting/shading

i can send screenshots

[spark walrus]

Sure

I dont have any knowledge of VRM files so I cant help with that

But I can see if I can maybe try and help

[meager warren]

comes exported with all of this other stuff (light/camera/whatever) and if i delete the light the shading looks weird (weird jagged shading on the feet)

and im unable to edit the materials at all

[spark walrus]

Your import settings probably is why

[timber delta]

deleted this originally cuz i thought i found the issue. i didnt and now im super confused
i applied all transforms that were present. its upright on blender and the view for unity, but not when i test the animation and on the thumbnail in unity its laying down on the ground. any clue how to fix?

[meager warren]

someone said to check "bake animations" and the option literally isnt there

and i know it should be there because ive used it before

[spark walrus]

For Blender export I think

[meager warren]

what should i check

[spark walrus]

Leave it I meant your Unity import settings

[meager warren]

oh okay

[spark walrus]

Do you mess with that at all

[meager warren]

no

[spark walrus]

Turn Read/write on possibly

And Legacy Blend shape normals

on

Change the materials through the materials tab on the import settings

I have no idea if this will work just taking a shot in the dark, who knows

[timid stratus]

how do i fix this

[lucid elbow]

is it possible to make different expression toggles change the texture of a costume in unity (using vrcfury) without creating 6 different costume models?

i got a costume with 6 different textures and i would like to be able to hotswap them on the fly but i dunno if there is an easier way to hotswap then just creating 6 different costumes, syncing them all, and changing the texture of each costume

I would also like to be able to change the texture of my avatar depending on the expression chosen if that is also possible

[timber delta]

its appearing fine even in the avatar config, im super confused..

its applying a rotation as well??

nvm, fixed it in a really weird way

[lucid elbow]

i also fixed my problem

chat gpt coming in clutch

[timid stratus]

i keep trying to move my eyes to head but it just goes back to chest

[arctic ginkgo]

RENOU!!!

[fallow gulch]

Yeah, I was also looking at that
It's nice to see that avi
I've been following the adventures of the creator learning about avatars, and I can say with confidence, that they are on the right track for sure
That makes me happy ^^

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah it's cool seeing them learn new things, and the format of their videos and stylization of their characters is so appealing

it grabs my attention and holds it hostage

even though i already know pretty much everything covered in the videos 😭

[fallow gulch]

Yeah, same
I'm just curious about their journey :P
It's neat that they also care about optimizing

Heck.. they even learned about DBTs!
That's awesome! Not many creators seem to do that, who make base models

[meager warren]

the oil one is fucking hilarious

[maiden yoke]

Does anyone think they can pm to help me out with avatar questions, [blender and adding toggles]

[desert elk]

what are your questions?

[plain mural]

Is there any way I can make the T-pose match the Vrchat pose?

the first picture is the pose that the animation that vrchat uses gives me
the second is how it should be

I tried to turn the hands the right way myself, but it doesn't look very good and it takes a lot of time

(setting all values ​​to 0 won't help)

[fallow gulch]

Your best bet is recording animations (poses) for the different hand gestures, and making a custom gesture controller

[odd helm]

Is there a way to get parameters working for props

like I have an emote but it has a prop with its own animation and i can slow down my emote but the prop speed doesnt change with it

[timber wharf]

@odd helm secondary animators are uncontrollable, you can only convert its animation into proper fx layer animation (fixing pathes)

[odd helm]

how would i convert it

[timber wharf]

@odd helm you slap same animation but on your fx, every property turns yellow cause path to properties is incorrect now, then you edit it so it is correct, probly this can help but never tried https://github.com/hfcRed/Animation-Repathing

or just open .anim file in some text editor like np++ and use replace all to add correct prefix

[plain mural]

okay, another question, how to fix the legs? it seems that in idle vrchat calculates the distance to the chest bone itself? (I tried to pull the chest bone forward, and the legs followed forward)
how can I fix this? I guess that I should make some kind of custom controller but I have 0 knowledge in this, and the animations in unity look okay and the legs are even there

[inland seal]

Im having a problem where it says that I have 5 physbones out of 8 that can be used, but it still disables them all on quest. idk why

[balmy barn]

try a empty skeleton and use constraints to move the legs or it will try to drag your legs below your head

[plain mural]

like this?

[balmy barn]

yup

[cunning grove]

How do I fix the clothes coming off when i pose it?

[junior void]

check the armature modifier on the shirt

the reference likely broke

[autumn rover]

Okay this might be a really stupid question. But would it be possible to make a game run as a avatar asset. The Gumboy is a asset that lets you play simple games like tetris, but would it be possible to make a custom game console that would be able to run a game like pokemon emerald since its like 7mb?

[serene warren]

Guys what should I do if my avatar fails to upload due to "avatar validation failed"？ I tried using vpn and detaching/changing avatar blueprint but it doesnt help. I believe it is due to a new gadget which is using modular avatar. I updated my modular avatar but the issue persists.

[ornate stump]

Take a look in the info item above.

[serene warren]

do you mean the ones in blue?

[serene warren]

Somehow it worked, not sure what I did

I will send screenshot if I can recreate the problem

[autumn rover]

i try to make my own avatars but i thought it would be cool to have a actual game i could play kinda like gumboy does, i wanna try and see if i could make it work but im also pretty new at avatar creation and not sure what the limitations would be for a project like this or if its even possible

[fallow gulch]

It's not down to the size really

It comes down to complexity, and all the logic

You'd have to remake the entire game in the FX layer basically

Also, don't listen to that "professional creator" lol.. that's a scammer most likely

[autumn rover]

ahhhhh okayy, i get it. so being able to make the game would be pretty unrealistic.

[fallow gulch]

Yeah... it would be pretty damn hard

[balmy barn]

something simple as flappy bird or pong is doable (just a bunch of random stuff) ive made something similar to pokemon i guess drops off a avatar in world another get near they take turns to do stuff (its just rock-paper-scissors really)

[inland seal]

still need help

[fallow gulch]

Yeah, that works
But recreating an entire Pokémon game is definitely not viable

[plain mural]

I think the rig is not happy about this lol

I set all the bones to the fake rig in the rig settings in Unity, and then connected the raptor bones to the fake one using rotation constraint

oh, this is a video with a different rig, it only has fake legs, but on a full fake rig he behaves absolutely the same jerky way

[balmy barn]

these horrible games are doable in vrchat on a avatar (please dont)

[fallow gulch]

This would be nostalgic

[autumn rover]

LMAOOO i love the please dont

I would like to play around with the idea in the future, and i just remembered plug and plays were a things, i used to play this game as a kid could be fun to atleast make a model for if anything

[fallow gulch]

Yeah, that sounds like a fun idea

[frosty summit]

hey, I can't find a place to fit "Body_Roughness.png/ Body_metallic.ping" in my avatar body's inspector...
I found a metallic option but it was just a slider, I'm using poi toon

as for body_roughness.png, I also couldn't find where to fit that, am I missing something?

basically they don't have a slot i can put the png's into

[fallow gulch]

You find them in shading, in the reflection part I believe
There is 1 big map in the reflection part that you can open to drop the different maps into that are related to reflection

[frosty summit]

Apparently it's all sliders, I don't know if it has anything to do with the fact I'm using a good rank avatar

[desert elk]

osc?

[faint gate]

osc is basically a way for other programs to talk to vrchat. if I can put them in a radial menu itl work in osc

[fallow gulch]

You see the Packed Maps?
That is what I meant

[faint gate]

but right now it only works through shift+f4 or w/e

[ornate stump]

For poiyomi, it's packed map texture, meaning one texture combine multiple kind of texture.. You take a look in packed map slot.

[fallow gulch]

Expand that and slot the textures into there

[faint gate]

@desert elk

[desert elk]

ah, I've never heard of that, so I can't help

[junior void]

theres a channel for it #avatars-osc

[desert elk]

oh okay, I hide everything I don't use so I had no idea xd

[faint gate]

alright. ill try asking in there. thx

[inland seal]

Still need help 😭

[faint gate]

apparently not allowed 🥴 oh well

[worn kiln]

if you not spamming, it's fine. just transfer faq and remove original then

[faint gate]

aight thx o7

not 100% what you mean by transfer faq but im sure its fine

[cunning grove]

I want it to look like the first picture, But when i join the horns or attatch the left horn mesh to the head, it looks like the second picture. How to I make it work?

[arctic ginkgo]

invert normals

select the mesh, go into edit mode and press A. now go to mesh>normals>flip

the other solution is to delete the messed up side and put a mirror modifier on the normal side

then just apply the modifier

it looks like whoever made this (idk if it was you or not) just duplicated the first object and then scaled it to -1 on the X axis, which will flip the normals

it just doesn't show it when the transforms are unapplied

[cunning grove]

guilty QwQ

Im still a little new to blender stuff

Its fixed now Its just a little more transparent than the other horn

[arctic ginkgo]

looks to me like they are using different materials, also the one on your right seems like it doesn't have smooth shading on

an easy way to ensure they are identical though is to just use the mirror modifier

so delete the problem one and then put a mirror modifer on the correct one and apply it

[cunning grove]

Yippie

Thank you :D

[civic cliff]

which of these settings should i use to export an fbx into blender?

[twin raft]

the fbx is already in your assets if the model exists in the first place

so this addon makes no sense

[oblique pumice]

help?

[civic cliff]

i added more shit to my model tho so the fbx in my assets isnt gonna match that, is it?

[desert elk]

did you set the rig of your model?

[twin raft]

then add them in blender

what are you trying to edit in specific

only import that into blender

then export ontop

[civic cliff]

just wanna make a texture atlas

[oblique pumice]

no i dont know how to

[arctic ginkgo]

i'm pretty sure this is for exporting animations or creating fbx files from a transform in your scene

[desert elk]

okay, click on your Avi in the hierarchy, click on "select" on the right side (I think it was twice), press rig and set it to humanoid

if your Avi is humanoid that is

[twin raft]

then ya, just rebuild the avatar in blender

[civic cliff]

fuck

[twin raft]

its not hard just do an armature merge

[oblique pumice]

alr bet

[desert elk]

it will automatically add an animator to your avi

you may need to correct the bones assigned if the naming is wonky

[civic cliff]

bro ive never used blender before it IS hard because its my first time and i have no clue what that means 😭

[twin raft]

well if youre trying to atlas i assume that means youre trying to get it to poor or above

which you dont really need to atlas for

[balmy barn]

here comes their 40 materials avatar

[civic cliff]

im atlasing so i can quest optimize

[desert elk]

cats can help with that, armature merge

wouldn't reducing the amount of meshes also be quest optimization?

[civic cliff]

i have that but havent seen that setting myselg yet

[desert elk]

it depends on the version

they also have a discord and you can ask for help there

[civic cliff]

i mean yeah but i only changed hair, clothes, and added one accessory

[civic cliff]

im in it but nobody actually helps me there

i asked the same question from before to them

[desert elk]

you're not, it says '1 mutual server" and it's not the cats one, it's this one 😉

maybe you were there before

[civic cliff]

i thought you meant blender but alr

[desert elk]

cats

I'm talking about cats rn, sorry for the confusion

[civic cliff]

guess ill rebuild the avi in blender tho

[oblique pumice]

@desert elk in here?

[desert elk]

yeah, click on it and on the right in the inspector click select twice

[next wolf]

Howdy, I created a backup of my avatar using the Creator Companion feature, however when I tried to load the original one back up. I get and error asking to start it in safe now or ignore now VRCFury, PumpkinTools, and all the other similar assets I have on the project are no longer functional/missing. I have tried readding them but no luck, any thoughts?

[oblique pumice]

okay i click aplly

@desert elk uhhh this is not good..

[desert elk]

Click configure in the rig menu and correct the bones in there

and autofix the things you can autofix

@oblique pumice

[oblique pumice]

i got this

[arctic ginkgo]

your rig doesn't match your model

[desert elk]

the rig is broken

you need to fix the rigging in blender

[oblique pumice]

cant i just use mixamo

[arctic ginkgo]

mixamo rigging is not good

[oblique pumice]

why

[arctic ginkgo]

let me ask, how did you rig this model?

[arctic ginkgo]

because it is automated, it doesn't know how your character is supposed to move, you do. it will get things wrong

it's good for matching animations to your model

but not for general rigging

[oblique pumice]

oh

[desert elk]

it looks like it was done by metarig

another automatic rigger

[oblique pumice]

i use like the thing on blender

[desert elk]

yeah, you should definitely rig it yourself. It's not that hard to do tbh

[oblique pumice]

if you say so

(this will take an hour)

[arctic ginkgo]

time isn't difficulty, but yeah generally making a game-ready character model does take a long time

[desert elk]

and that's why avatars are expensive when you buy them

[arctic ginkgo]

even if it is easy it's a time consuming art

and it isn't always easy

just saying that regardless of the difficulty for a specific project, it always takes a long time

[desert elk]

true

[oblique pumice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1316199527836811364/1330525571418947624/me.gif

oh gif dont work..

[arctic ginkgo]

i'm having a strange issue

i have these objects parented to another transform

but for some reason they are separating..

this shouldn't be possible, none of them are animated or have constraints

nvm i'm stupid

it's physbones

i forgot to make them ignore transforms

[silk thorn]

We are all stupid

Except kazin, probably the only one that has made it out of the pit.

[arctic ginkgo]

😭

[oblique pumice]

is this how you do the rig...

please dont kill me

[shell cairn]

Capture from scene camera not working. Is there a way to fix this?

[oblique pumice]

Have you click capture

[quasi briar]

#avatar-rigging message

[desert elk]

looks better! you need to weigh paint it properly and it should be good

[quasi briar]

there are problems with that rig

[shell cairn]

shows up blank

[desert elk]

I mean yeah, but it looks better then it did before

[oblique pumice]

It crashed.

[quasi briar]

the feet should not point inward and there shouldnt be those hip bones there

[oblique pumice]

😭

I swear this laptop bro

[quasi briar]

Yeah but dont tell them its fine when there are issues to sort out before weight painting yknow, itll make their life harder

did you save at least?

I dont use it myself but ive heard that theres a plugin called Rigify that you might be able to use to automate the process

Also for that rig, the trunk needs 3 bones (hip, spine, chest) then a neck and head bone and position accordingly. you have 2 extra bones in the center stack

[desert elk]

I genuinely didn't see the feet

[oblique pumice]

Basically my laptop turn to a black screen when I saved it..

[desert elk]

ouch

[oblique pumice]

Ye

[spark walrus]

Anyone know why my hinge physbones work perfectly in Unity preview but in VRChat they dont seem to be working as hinges?

[karmic junco]

So, I'm trying to make an avatar, and I commisioned someone to do the bone work for me since I have no idea about how to do bones. They gave me some mainly the arms and the spine but didn't include any legs, so when I put the avatar into the game it just T Poses.

My goal is to just have the thing slide around while moving instead of walking like a regular avatar. If anyone knows how any help is appreciated.

[balmy barn]

add fake legs or it will not be humanoid

[karmic junco]

I'm not sure how to do that

[desert elk]

put bones that aren't weight painted to anything

[karmic junco]

?

[junior void]

Watch a tutorial on bone edits in blender

[somber sequoia]

uh... I did what?

[karmic junco]

I've tried but I don't really understand them

[somber sequoia]

you don't really have much more options other than paying someone then

[late lion]

any idea how to make everything less flat/poopoo qquality? and getting the lashes/metals to look right? this is my fire time making a custom avi and i just moved it into unity

[karmic junco]

I already did

That's how I got the bones to begin with

[somber sequoia]

sounds like you need more

[oak bone]

Anyone got a unity shader to use those game textures that come multicolored? Such as ones from warframe

Multicolored meaning non-standard, not the actual albedo texture but something more rainbow, presumably to allow color edits in-engine

[somber sequoia]

any decent shader, really

[karmic junco]

?

[somber sequoia]

maybe you have an example?

[trim tiger]

hey @somber sequoia any idea what i could do to make my loco layer not reset me to the default walking animation as soon as i walk

i have a custom standing animation

which does play

until i move even in the slightest after which it plays the walking animation and then leaves me in the default standing anim

until i move via joystick again to reset back to custom standing

[somber sequoia]

Please don't ping me for new questions, I'll usually help if I'm around and have answers

[trim tiger]

gotcha

also i got nothing in the pvp world department

unfortunately

[oak bone]

I'm not at my pc, but I found this image on Google. Basically, the textures look like this. Usually there's a specific shader people use, like for Destiny, but idk what people do for warframe besides maybe texture baking

And that's obviously not what the guy is supposed to look like

[somber sequoia]

I know nothing about warframe but it seems like a generic shader and clever albedo texture would do this just fine

[trim tiger]

i am so confused

if i stand perfectly still it keeps the standing animation it has

if i even move my hands it resets to the default that it SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE since proxy_stand_idle is GONE

[karmic junco]

Tried parenting and all that found how to make the bones but it doesn't connect

[somber sequoia]

In the properties box (bottom right) for the bone, you can click "connected" to make the bone's head be stuck to its parent's tail

[trim tiger]

do i have to murder my walking animations

[karmic junco]

Managed to get them connected but I can't paint anything in weight editor for some reason

[trim tiger]

is there a parameter for angular velocity

so i can return my feet to tracking if i'm rotating so they don't just slide

or is that what angularY is

[somber sequoia]

Do you have an Armature modifier on the mesh object? If so, did you select the armature, then said mesh object, then go into weight paint mode?

[desert elk]

if they're supposed to be fake bones I don't think you need to weight paint them

[somber sequoia]

Yeah, angular X, Y, Z could be useful for this

[karmic junco]

They are but is the whole model supposed to be blue, because appearently that means its unweighted

[karmic junco]

But did eventually find out how to paint it

[trim tiger]

issue, the angular values fluctuate aggressively to the point of not being reliable for this

[trim tiger]

is there any way to smoothen the transition from tracking yes to tracking no?

so this snapping doesn't happen anymore

[next yew]

how do i combine materials and atlas textures

[fierce thunder]

how do i make white skin like this?

[trim tiger]

texture hue, brightness, and contrast shifts

[civic cliff]

am i forever doomed to have these dents in the side of my selestia's thighs because for some reason the blendshape for it only exists on a version of the avatar that i put into blender for the quest side?

i tried just switching to that version but quickly realised i wouldnt be able to keep the cyberpunk aesthetic because its atlased and the maps wont work on that

[karmic junco]

So is the model supposed to like this??

[tawdry sinew]

is there ANY avatars out there like this

i really want one hes so cool

[trim tiger]

so the animation is smooth when going from animated to tracking
but snaps from tracking to animated

if anyone has any ideas on how to smooth out both please let me know but until then i'm off to troubleshoot

[silk thorn]

Escaped the pit of endless mistakes.

[somber sequoia]

Haha only sometimes!

[trim tiger]

yeah, okay, i'm stumped

i have no clue how to even begin troubleshooting this when the transition from animated TO tracking is smooth as butter

yet the transition back to animated, which has the exact same settings, just... doesn't

[cunning swan]

is the legs post to be like that

[trim tiger]

positionally or transitionally?

also, supposed

because positionally yes

but it's not supposed to just snap to it

[cunning swan]

im sorry for my grammar mistake im dumb as shit

[tawdry sinew]

does anyone know how long it takes for people to see ur request in #1330999499086368839

oops i tagged mine

sorry

[trim tiger]

aren't we all

[trim tiger]

if even kazin ends up not knowing i'm afraid that i may be fucked

[somber sequoia]

... seriously, I don't know everything!

[karmic junco]

Okay so the guy I commisioned gave me an update with the model with legs but now it looks like this.

[trim tiger]

so no clue here either?

[somber sequoia]

haven't even read it yet, I just walked in the door

[trim tiger]

oh

[inland seal]

Im trying to change platform to Android but it give me this error:

Does anyone know how to fix this

[desert elk]

do you have android build downloaded?

[karmic junco]

Does anyone know how to fix this too

[tawdry sinew]

how can these be made alike

[somber sequoia]

oh same thing - I use FBT so I haven't looked into this at all

[tawdry sinew]

no comms tho im broke

[trim tiger]

lucky

[somber sequoia]

nice name

[somber sequoia]

wasn't luck 🙂

[trim tiger]

lucky to have fbt

at all

[crimson pendant]

The default rotations of my avatar's left leg are slightly off whenever use gesture manager in unity or whenever I load the avatar in-game on desktop. I have no clue why this keeps happening, since they line up perfectly in blender and before I hit play in unity

[spring ember]

anybody got like rigged car keys so i can jingle jangle like markiplier

[somber sequoia]

are the bone rolls 0 in Blender?

[crimson pendant]

no, but they do seem mirrored

[somber sequoia]

mirrored in what way?

[crimson pendant]

like, matching the opposite side

-178, 178

[somber sequoia]

oh I see. Set those (and all the humanoid bones) to 0

well fingers and toes you can do whatever is appropriate

[crimson pendant]

I thought you were normally supposed to do this for the legs

[somber sequoia]

every avatar I've worked on in Blender has the roll for all the humanoid bones and eyes at 0

[crimson pendant]

ah gotcha. Wasn't sure since my legs are digitigrade

[somber sequoia]

possibly it isn't your issue, but it's one thing to check

[crimson pendant]

so there's technically two pairs of legs

[somber sequoia]

is this a digitgrade setup?

[trim tiger]

maybe sunshine can help

[crimson pendant]

yeh

[somber sequoia]

Ok I've worked with a few of these, and still have all my rolls at 0

[crimson pendant]

What's the best way to set up the rotation constraints for the feet if the 0 roll rotations of the two different feet types vary?

[cunning swan]

so i press ctrl v and my unity project is broken

[somber sequoia]

it shouldn't really change stuff as far as I know. I'm not using that particular method at the moment, but my typical method for such constraints it play with it until it works 🙂
In blender mostly I use local space

[somber sequoia]

?

[cunning swan]

my unity project broke

press ctrl v and it broke it

[somber sequoia]

a) what did you paste
b) what does "broke" mean?

[karmic junco]

Turns out they completely messed up the chest bone and broke it even more.

Does anyone know how to fix this

[somber sequoia]

drag the right bones into the right slots

the hips one probably shouldn't be the armature root

[karmic junco]

How do I know what goes where?

And what do I not need a chest bone?

[somber sequoia]

presumably the bones are named in useful ways

you do infact need a chest bone

[karmic junco]

Well again, he doesn't have a chest bone

[somber sequoia]

then you can't use the humanoid animation stuff and all the IK VRChat provides, you'd have to setup base locomotion yourself

[karmic junco]

Well it was there before he just removed it idk why

Seen here

There's something sticking out of the top in the model in Blender so Idk if he resized it on accident or what

[crimson pendant]

setting the bone rolls to zero didn't seem to work, would it be an issue if the fbx avatar config gives warnings about the character not being in a T-pose?

[somber sequoia]

it can, but it seems not always

[karmic junco]

Wait, appearently the arms are the legs some how?

[somber sequoia]

it's guessing. if it guesses wrong, you drag the right bones into the right slots to correct it.

[karmic junco]

Okay

So its just the chest that's missing

It also says the spine has a bone length of Zero

[trim tiger]

does anyone know if there's any way to detect playspace movement with params

[somber sequoia]

Velocity{X,Y,Z} parameters

[trim tiger]

those seem to only detect player movement via joystick

actually moving around the room doesn't trigger for shit

[somber sequoia]

ohh you mean walking around, yeah I don't think you can get that

[trim tiger]

well fuck

in that case i guess i'm sticking with standard tracking locomotion for standing then

since sliding around slightly while crouching or prone is fine, but standing looks awful

actually, is there any way to change the tracking movement

offset it if you will

the simulated movement with inverse kinematics

because if so then what i'm doing here is entirely pointless

[civic cliff]

i dont understand this issue at all, i cant make my model humanoid

[trim tiger]

you have 2 different bones named hips

so the rig importer is shitting itself

because it can't figure out which hips are hips

and which hips aren't hips

it's the same with head

[civic cliff]

i have renamed them slightly should i rename it to be even more unique?

[trim tiger]

head, his, and i think both feet and hands are unique bones

[trim tiger]

should be fine as long as they're just not both called Hips

[somber sequoia]

I'm guessing that's two armatures for some reason

[civic cliff]

yeah, i did blender stuff and its pissing me off 😭

[civic cliff]

i renamed them and its giving the same message

[crimson pendant]

it seems like it's wanting the plantigrade knees to bend at an angle

[oblique pumice]

i feel like i did it..

one issue is that the hair doesnt work

it doesnt follow the thing

[arctic ginkgo]

wdym it doesn't work?

it looks to me like the hair is the only thing moving..

also you made a ful rig setup like with drivers

[desert elk]

what do you mean doesn't work?

[arctic ginkgo]

that's not necessary

you just need the bones and weight painting

[desert elk]

I was wondering what does were

yeah, you must need bones and weight painting

I'd assume it's not weight painted properly atm

[oblique pumice]

bro there isnt even vc to screenshare in here

[civic cliff]

I MIGHT just be going a little bit insane

[somber sequoia]

yeah I don't know why you have two armatures. It should probably have one.

[civic cliff]

the clothes probably

idfk either

[oblique pumice]

do you have maybye a vid that you could send me in dm

[somber sequoia]

if the clothes use a separate armature, export that as a separate file

[civic cliff]

fuck

idk how to do that

[somber sequoia]

honestly I'd just merge the armatures into one

[civic cliff]

i also dont know how to do that

i opened my blender file just now and its all purple all of a sudden which is annoying

[desert elk]

missing textures

[desert elk]

you can use cats for it 🤭 just please, use a higher blender version then last time, in order to avoid bugs
you can also do it manually

there are tutorials online, I don't remember from the top of my head

[civic cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/tense-table-smash-mad-gif-13656077

i might fucken cry bro oh lord

i might actually hate doing this ever since i decided to lay a finger on blender

but my pride of wanting to quest optimize is too strong

[civic cliff]

what version could i use that i can actually use cats on

[desert elk]

I recommend blender 4.2 with unofficial cats, so far I had no problems with it. It's very stable

[civic cliff]

where do i get unofficial cats??

[somber sequoia]

https://catsblenderplugin.xyz/

[desert elk]

yeah, this

[civic cliff]

got it

[crimson pendant]

I modified the leg bones so that they're perfectly straight and parallel on the X axis but even then the plantigrade knees still want to bend sideways (the pics in unity are without the digitigrade constraints since I'm getting sick of doing those over and over)

[somber sequoia]

I put the digitgrade constraints into a prefab

[crimson pendant]

how does that work? Are you just replacing the entire armature?

[civic cliff]

god fucking damnit

what the hell is thatt 😭

[clear plinth]

im making a sergal for my quest friend and as far as i know the quest shaders are ons sided and dont allow transparency. is there any way to make it use transparency without using particle shader?

she says she has seen sergals with this exact model on quest that have transparency here to make the fur look good and i don't understand how that is possible

(the purple fluff that has the transparency is on a pc shader)

[crimson pendant]

also, I figured it out, it's a bug with the vrc sdk. The proxy_stand_still animation is what's making the legs misaligned

modifying that so that all of the values for the legs and feet match fixed it

[civic cliff]

i am scared, alone and dont know what to do

im restarting in blender '

usually id use the fix model button but its not there now so how do i get rid of the extra bones?

[desert elk]

fix model is only for mmd and vrm models, if yours isn't that don't use it, it'll break

and the extra bones, if they're nothing important, just delete in edit mode

[desert elk]

if it is an mmd or vrm the button has been moved to MMD Options

[civic cliff]

i aint gonna lie chief

where the hell is edit mode? 💀

[left gull]

press TAB on your keyboard while having the bones selected/highlighted

[somber sequoia]

upper-left dropdown may say "object mode" - it lets you change editing mode to those appropriate for the object you've selected.

tab goes between the most recent or most obvious

[civic cliff]

im in the edit mode now so im guessing theres some sort of other secret keybind that lets me select and delete more than one bone at a time?

[balmy barn]

non weighted bones go poof

[civic cliff]

did nothing 😭

removed 0

[balmy barn]

try that one instead other was vertex groups didnt expand

[somber sequoia]

basic blender - shift- or ctrl-select object to select multiple

[civic cliff]

ok yeah that one worked but i already made my way half way through them anyway 😭

[raven sun]

Hi everyone. I've been trying for several days to rig the eyes of this model of Whisper the Wolf for VR chat and I've gotten pretty close. Since the eyes are a single plane I tried using poiyomi decals to animate them, but for some reason whenever I hit play the default position of the texture switches from 0.5 on y an x to 0. Is there any way to fix this?

[next yew]

i had to remove and edit some stuff on an avatar, so i duplicated it but it wont let me upload the duplicated avatar. how do i upload the duplicated one

[somber sequoia]

you have different materials for each eye, on the same object? You'll need to use the "renamed when locked" feature in Poiyomi, otherwise all materials on that object will receive the same change to the texture position

(I'd consider merging those into one material also)

[grizzled crow]

how should I add a particle trail to the wingtips?

[somber sequoia]

in blender or unity?

[grizzled crow]

in unity, im not done setting up the uv maps, was wondering how its done so I might have an idea when I get to that point

[somber sequoia]

put a particle system component on a game object

[grizzled crow]

ah

[odd helm]

I have a prop animation and it works in animator but when i test it witht the avatar emulator and in game it doesnt work

but works with other models

[late lion]

anyone know how to reparent a bone? i put the left shoe on my right foot bone

[somber sequoia]

in blender I assume? click the bone in armature edit mode, and either look at the parent option in the bone properties (bottom right of blender), or select the parent bone and ctrl+p

[late lion]

im ngl i couldnt figure that out because i dont know where anything is yet, could just swapping the shoes work in this case

theyre just slippers so they both look the same

can confirm it worked

[somber sequoia]

probably they're weight painted to the opposite feet now, but you'd have to try it

[somber sequoia]

that doesn't look right at all

[late lion]

LOL

[supple needle]

Dunno if it’s a “help” type thing but does anyone know how to do walk cycles in unity ? I see avatar creators using them for showcases and such.

[dark jay]

Does anyone know why cats crashes blender when i hit fix on a model after fixing the bones

[raven sun]

well the Idea was to figure out how to do it with one eye so that then i can apply it to both. for now "renamed when locked" doesn't seem to do anything.

I could set up a fifth parameter for looking straight but I'm afraid the eye is just going to jump to 0,0 in between states

[somber sequoia]

you have to also lock and then animate the parameter. Poiyomi's docs explain how this works

[trim rover]

im trying to make a quest optomized avatar but the avatar builder keeps telling me it has too high of a poly count despite the fact that the model only has 3160 faces

[somber sequoia]

faces != triangles (aka polys)

[unkempt relic]

any idea why i keep gettig "failed to upload file?"
ive tried to detatch the blueprint and do a fresh upload, didnt work

i was updating an avi with no0 issue then suddley i got the error

no idea why

checked the consoe didnt help

looked online didnt help

[somber sequoia]

I see 16 errors in your console, probably check those.

[vast pendant]

are we allowed to edit the vrchat standard shader to include just something really simple like [Enum(UnityEngine.Rendering.CullMode)] _Cull ("Culling", Float) = 2 or is any edit to it not allowed at all (im just wanting to turn culling off for sections of my thing a ma bob)

[unkempt relic]

already did, i always get those and they havent caused any issues befoe

[somber sequoia]

nope

[somber sequoia]

feel free to paste the first 2-3, I'd be surprised if they're nothing

[unkempt relic]

i always see these, like all the time, and i can upload avis fine, the only new one is the failed to upload file

[somber sequoia]

hrm

[unkempt relic]

i was able to update it for my own account on pc and quest without issue, then i switched to a friends account, updated for quest, and then when i went to do pc, it gave me the error and now i cant update it at all for both sides

all in the span of 2 mins

idk if that says anything on what could be going on

[raven sun]

I'll try that but are you sure this will solve the issue of the texture teleporting to 0,0 I'm fine with one eye controlling both for now, I just want something that works to begin with

[somber sequoia]

nope, not 100% sure, just taking some educated guesses based on the multiple materials thing.

I'd need to actually investigate your project to give you a certain answer

[dark jay]

model legs stopped moving with thebones in blender how do i fix it

[ornate stump]

Failed to upload often causes by avatar thumbnail failed to upload. So try changing the thumbnail image or choose smaller image.

[somber sequoia]

make sure the armature modifier is present on the mesh object and points to the right armature. Make sure the legs are weight painted.

[inner pier]

sorry for yapping here rq😭

this is my second model that ive worked on from scratch, the first time i did the uv mapping and texturing it worked out completely fine but with this second and current model i'm having issues where the textures are overlapping on the wrong uv, and i can't fix it even after swapping everything to the correct uv map/texture

each part of the mesh like the body and face are separate and have their own individual uv mapping, yet as you can see his face thinks the body textures belong there even when i swap to whats supposed to be his face texture so i'm confused on what i mightve potentially messed up on

[somber sequoia]

UV maps are part of mesh objects, you don't "swap" them.
Are these objects using different materials?

[dark jay]

idk what i did but none of the bones move my model anymore

[somber sequoia]

check both things I said? Could be you deleted the vertex groups which contained the bone weights.

[inner pier]

sorry, i suppose i meant swapping the actual texture maps ^^ still fairly new to blender
i've added different materials for each uv map but doing so turns the model completely blank. i've looked in the shading tab as well to make sure the textures were connected to the model but same issue with it turning fully white happens when i do

[somber sequoia]

hmm not sure why you'd need a different material for each uvmap

[trim rover]

question: how do people get trasparent materials on quest avatars