avatar-help

[somber sequoia]

are you using vrc fury?

[main fiber]

for a few pc toys and gadgets, yea

[somber sequoia]

that can re-order your parameters list

[main fiber]

how do i fix that then?

[somber sequoia]

I don't use it, I'm not sure. But they do have a discord too.

[hard turtle]

i thought this was funny

[hard turtle]

anyone got ideas on how tf i make these eyes less uncanny

[south kraken]

best eye shaders?

looking for recommendations

[spark walrus]

my view is still not fixed

on my avatar

the eye view only works on the z axis

[junior void]

The armature is probably way back in the body then.

Consider trying to shift the armature to the face of the cat

[spark walrus]

i move camera vioew

the armature is in the center

[junior void]

What if you move the whole cat back and set the origin to be below the face

I'm just guessing here so if that works great, if not, please do not ping me. Its a random guess

[light charm]

maybe try adding reflection to the eyes?

or make the iris and pupils bigger

[spark walrus]

maybe

[junior void]

Thank you for reading my request to not be pinged

[crude light]

Hello. I need some help with an avatar and im completely lost

[spark walrus]

ask

[crude light]

Ive been stucking trying to figure out what "Quaternion to Matrix conversion failed because input Quaternio is invalid" means or where it could possibly be

[spark walrus]

quantum physics?

[crude light]

idk

[spark walrus]

oh it actualyl exists

never heard of

[crude light]

the error spams my Console whenever i have the model selected and move my camera around

online its possibly multiple animators trying to move the same bone but idk how to check that

[spark walrus]

damn

is it downloaded?

[crude light]

what do you mean?

This is the full error

[junior void]

That makes sense. It ends up being more than 1.0

Apparently this has to do with rotations

[crude light]

ok. anyway for me to see what exactly is rotating that way?

[junior void]

Look at what the expanded text says when you click the error

[crude light]

one moment. computers not exactly the best lol

[junior void]

Every case i found so far had a mention of the physbones/gizmos

I keep reading about this that the issue occurs because more than one layer animated a bone and so the rotation gets slightly screwed. That would make sense

[crude light]

there we go

that took way longer than i wanted i apologize

[junior void]

Not a problem, I found a few fix approaches online while you went to get that

So, do you have an animator controller assigned in your animator component on the root of your avatar?

[crude light]

i have an animator but unsure of an animator controller

wait. just looked it up. i believe i do

[junior void]

This

It should be empty. Someone on a forum i found said he had a controller assigned and removing it fixed it

[crude light]

i do have it filled. one moment to try

seems like the issue is still there

[junior void]

What does your avatar consist of exactly? Do you have a lot of things like magic spells, animated props and stuff on it?

[crude light]

it has a lot of clothes and options. its Victoria by Thine#6063

[junior void]

Do you have a backup of your project? If not, now is a good time to make one as the next solutions i have can be very destructive

[crude light]

ok. a backup has been made

[junior void]

I read about this one but i am unsure if it will have any effect on your animations so - try this on the throwaway copy

click the three dots on your animator component and select the highlighted option

[crude light]

ok. its no longer doing it now. but just to be safe are there any other steps after i need to do before attempting upload?

[junior void]

I will repeat myself: I do not know if this option has any effect on your animations, as in "how they work" or "if they work" to begin with. Test all of your animations in play mode using an emulator such as gesture manager. I really mean all: Your gestures, toggles, walk and run animations, just go over everything

Sure you can do this ingame as well to test but the question is do you really wanna keep switching between unity and vrc

[crude light]

wheres Gesture Manager?

[junior void]

Are you asking where to install it from or where the window would be found in unity once its installed

[crude light]

i guess where to install

because i dont think ive installed it yet

[junior void]

In your creator companion, click "manage project". You will find it being one of the package options

[crude light]

ok. do i need to reopen the project?

[junior void]

No.

Once you have it installed, add it to your project like so

It will add the package to your hierarchy. Click it, then click play in the inspector (not at the top window play button)

[crude light]

i dont have tools...

[junior void]

Did you see unity load stuff when you added the gesture manager package

[crude light]

no

[junior void]

Then check you added the package right in the cc

[crude light]

ok so. stuff happened and i have tools. but it still doesnt have Gesture Manager

in Package Manager it says it is installed but nothing pops up in tools when selected

ive also lost the SDK thing

i think im gonna load uo the backup

[junior void]

If you lost the sdk, reboot this backup project, check the console for errors as well

[crude light]

ive loaded the back up with Gesture Manager and i have neither still

something about the Gesture Manager completely fucks up my projects. maybe my CC has a bad version. could i get a new Gesture Manager and see if reinstalling it will fix anything?

[junior void]

the cc has the latest version. i use 3.9.2 with no issues. however, if your unity project is one of those old 2019 ones, that could be it

[crude light]

i do 2022

im gonna make a new one with the Gesture manager already installed to see if that helps

[prime agate]

Dunno if anybody is gonna have good advice for me (or if there's even a way to help) but my laptop blue screened while I was working on my Unity Project and it wouldn't open anymore without crashing before Unity loaded. So I backed up, deleted temp and library folders, opened it back up and the project works but nothing is there because my scene isn't loaded. Any time I try to load my scene, it crashes Unity. Have I literally lost everything just like that?

[crude light]

ok sweet i have both now

[junior void]

Its also possible that the creator forgot the gesture manager folder in your project and now by installing the latest version, its clashing with itself

gesture manager is really common to have and use

[crude light]

im quickly gonna do everything again in a new project since it seems both SDK and Gesture Manager want to work together now in a new project

should take like 15 mins

[junior void]

really up to you

[crude light]

BUMP! did not mean to get it lost in my shenanigans. im sorry

[prime agate]

It's okay, I kinda think I'm screwed and that's a bit sad. Unless Unity has an autosave in my library folder somewhere idk

[crude light]

Hopefully. Best up luck to you 🙏

ok. i got everything where it was and now its telling me to fix all compiler errors before i can enter playmode

[junior void]

Show us the errors from your console then

[junior void]

What are the first errors, not last ones

[crude light]

unsure of what you mean

[junior void]

Scroll all the way up in your console

[crude light]

that is all the way up

[junior void]

Couldnt tell as you always crop a lot but ok

This one i actually have no idea

[crude light]

ok

[junior void]

I am starting to question if the creator included sdk files in this project which they shouldnt

If this is a bought avatar, I would definitely try to get in contact with the creator

Or see if he updated it and you just dont have the fixed version, who knows

[crude light]

i was hoping this wouldve been an easier fix. but unfortunately ill have to postpone till later as i have to get to bed

thank you Zero for your time, patience, and expertise

[dapper lagoon]

I want to add something that tracks to my hand and, while I want it to remain upright, I also want to get rid of any jitter- how can I do this?

[rapid pendant]

Do you know change limit bones?

if someone can help me

[dapper lagoon]

The limit is hard-set, you're going to need to lose some

[rapid pendant]

even if avatar its only pc?

if remove physbone, avatar will look like a stone

at least part cloths

[somber sequoia]

why do you have 191 skinned mesh renderers?

[rapid pendant]

cloths

[night ember]

how do you have that many renderers

[night ember]

make the outfits separate avatars good lord

[rapid pendant]

I saw alot avatars with alot outfits
idk how them make it

[somber sequoia]

doesn't mean they are a good idea

[rapid pendant]

especially Japanese avatars, like maya avatars and etc...

[night ember]

its incredibly unoptimized and stupid

especially when you dont actually use the outfits majority of the time

[rapid pendant]

Idc about optimized

[night ember]

thats just wasted space that people need to load

[rapid pendant]

even avatar will not be for quest

its only pc

[night ember]

Im surprised that shit doesnt just automatically fail security checks

[night ember]

thats the entire issue

[somber sequoia]

remember that a very poor avatar has to be rendered by your own computer 2 or 3 times

[rapid pendant]

Hmmm, not really

why i should care with optimized if avatar will not be for quest

[night ember]

4 separate avatars

[rapid pendant]

?

[somber sequoia]

four?

[night ember]

because you are making game content

[night ember]

the mirror clone technically would be twice for both camera and mirror
especially if you use face mirror

[rapid pendant]

Still, i dont care about optimized, i just want know how change limit

[night ember]

your entire issue is you dont give a shit

[somber sequoia]

ok true

[night ember]

you need to optimize to reduce it

[somber sequoia]

you cannot change the limits

[night ember]

you are making game content not a render once and be done with it

[rapid pendant]

How people make avatar with 10 or more cloths differents only one avatar?

[somber sequoia]

better question is why

[night ember]

because they actually optimize and/or use blender?

[rapid pendant]

because, why i would make upload 10 avatars just for change outfits

if i can make one

[rapid pendant]

Im taking exemple like just h party
Have like 30 or more stuffs differents only one avatar

[night ember]

which is an incredibly stupid idea

just make each outfit its own avatar

[rapid pendant]

its stuff more normal just h party, or avatars coming from the Japanese, Chinese community, etc....

[night ember]

normal is making a few alternate clothing toggles
not trying to pack like 7 or 8 different avatars into a single avatar

[rapid pendant]

Few cloths like?

[night ember]

even if it was "normal" doesnt make it not incredibly shit

[night ember]

toggle on or off a jacket
random accessories like a hat or jewelry
pants to shorts and vice versa
color/texture swaps
aka stuff youd find on a base that you are supposed to customize yourself instead of just packing everything onto it and customizing ingame

packing everything onto a single avatar means now everyone including yourself needs to download and load it constantly despite the fact you likely arent going to use the majority of the toggles regularly

[rapid pendant]

only part you talk about change outfits its part "pants to shorts and vice versa"
Hat and jewelry, its rare have physical
Switch color or texture, its not change outfit
toggle on or off a jacket its still not change outfit, its only a toggle
only thing really its about change cloths its "pants to shorts and vice versa"

[night ember]

that was seriously your take away

I said clothing toggles not entire outfit changes

[rapid pendant]

point idk if i was clear, idc about optimize and idc about if i will use regularly

[night ember]

and yet your entire issue is caused by you not giving a shit

[rapid pendant]

So still, i have my point about change outfits

[rapid pendant]

i didnt, but you did it two times

[dapper lagoon]

You need to have a minimum level of optimization for VRChat to accept your avatar, which you don't
You need to, at minimum, reduce your physbone count to be able to upload your avatar

[night ember]

your entire point is "other people are doing it so its fine"
when it isnt and its a horrible way to set up an avatar

[night ember]

those "two times" being?

[fluid drum]

why is my tpose having the left foot be bent inward

[night ember]

weird bone rotation

[fluid drum]

nvm i fund a quick fix.. (use the bone's end)

[dapper lagoon]

that's the leaf bone, it doesn't have any weight

[fluid drum]

ah

[dapper lagoon]

in other words, your foot will be stiff

[fluid drum]

its already stiff, blocky feet n hands

shouldnt be a problem..\

[dapper lagoon]

really up to you in that case

[dapper lagoon]

wait a minute do you have separate clothing objects for different colored clothes

[somber sequoia]

ah you noticed that too

[rapid pendant]

yes because im using modular avatar

for make toggles

if make normal way, toggles broke

[somber sequoia]

skill issue

[rapid pendant]

Not really, because made normal toggle for nsfw stuffs

when i make for differents cloths

its full broken

[dapper lagoon]

use animations to swap the material out rather than having entirely different toggles, that should bring down your renderer and physbone count

[rapid pendant]

I only have this

even i dont make animations

[dapper lagoon]

then you're going to need to axe them or DIY

in other words

get rid of the extras or do it yourself

[rapid pendant]

thats i said before, i try make, when i use gesture manager, toggle was broken

didnt turn off cloths

only way i can make toggles work, its with modular avatar

[dapper lagoon]

how did you set it up? can you screenshot your parameters, animator, and expressions menu?

[night ember]

skill issue

[rapid pendant]

this way

i make same think for cloths

turn off one

and turn on new outfit

didnt work

[dapper lagoon]

your nsfw toggles are wrong
you're transitioning from an off state to an on state... with the condition that it's off

[rapid pendant]

Not really

its working

toggles nsfw

[dapper lagoon]

oh, huh

either way

[dapper lagoon]

you don't want them as separate outfits, apply or animate the material in an animation

[rapid pendant]

make 30 avatars for a outfit different?

[dapper lagoon]

what?

[rapid pendant]

animation on moldular its not a stuff a do

[dapper lagoon]

are you saying you'd rather use the modular avatar plugin?

[rapid pendant]

yes, its was only way i make toggles work

even i didnt make animation

[dapper lagoon]

with all due respect, you're going to need to learn how to animate in Unity if you want to optimize your avatars
even if your avatar is able to meet the limits, there's a good chance people will keep your avatar off if it isn't optimized

[rapid pendant]

i have folder avatar and a outfit

you see for yourself

[dapper lagoon]

that's not what I'm talking about
you need to learn how to animate if you're going to optimize your avatar

[somber sequoia]

they don't care about optimization though, that's been stated quite clearly

[rapid pendant]

like this one?

[dapper lagoon]

they need to optimize it somehow if they want to upload it

[somber sequoia]

oh true

[rapid pendant]

even some animate need make

[digital anchor]

?

[timber wharf]

@spark walrus you either need to enable IsAnimated property on physbone or better yet add extra dummy bone as parent of necklace and animate it, while leaving physbone on its child

without IsAnimated any attempts to animate bones that are affected by physbone components will be ignored

(assuming it has physbone ofc)

[proper yacht]

i have no idea where to put these -.-

[somber sequoia]

the one that says it's for OpenGL instead of DirectX, you drag into the body material's "normal" slot

the DirectX one you won't use in Unity.

[proper yacht]

both of them say open gl

both say like body_normal_open gl

[somber sequoia]

ah, I can't read the filenames so that was just a guess

[proper yacht]

its fine ^^

cuz it always says this, idk if its okay or not

if i drang and drop it

[somber sequoia]

yeah, do "fix now"

[proper yacht]

alr alr

[dapper lagoon]

How do I smooth out movement compared to it linearly tracking?

[timber wharf]

what movement

[dapper lagoon]

I have an object linked to my shoulder and I'd rather it slowly/smoothly track any given movement compared to instantly following it

[wispy spear]

Another homestuck... i know what you are..

[timber wharf]

@dapper lagoon https://github.com/VRLabs/Damping-Constraints

[digital anchor]

caught me red handed

[dapper lagoon]

Thanks!

[spark walrus]

why is my guy's right arm inside only?

[ornate stump]

It often causes by in model creation where the arm got copy and flipped, the surface also got flipped inside out.

[spark walrus]

i gotta go back to blebnder and fix something?

[ornate stump]

Of course yes.

[spark walrus]

in blender he's normal, i guess it's something with the export

[somber sequoia]

turn on face orientation in the view overlays, red = inside out

[spark walrus]

k lemme see

[ornate stump]

Because blender render both side of face by default. There is actually different between frontface and backface.

[somber sequoia]

it doesn't matter much when doing rendering in Blender or anything with backface culling off, so it gets overlooked

[spark walrus]

i was having issues with textures and shading before. this model is all kinds of wonky

let me look

thanks

a.

[somber sequoia]

yup, there you go

[spark walrus]

i have negative clue how to do anything - im totally winging this stuff thanks

how do i make it blue though

[ornate stump]

Select faces -> Normals -> Flip

[spark walrus]

ok finally got it.

thanks

[calm escarp]

why are the hips bending like this? also its fine in locomotion animations

[woeful stag]

so when ive tried to add clothing everytime i go into play mode or into game the mouth used to be closed in game and in play mode but now its allways open

does anyone know whats happening here?

[junior void]

Did you import it from blender?

[somber sequoia]

Unmap the jaw bone

[junior void]

^actually, copy import settings from the original, including rig slots and normals settings

[somber sequoia]

use a shader which supports that

[woeful stag]

the jaw bone stuff worked thank you!

[steady token]

Anyone know why her material turns green and how to fix it in unity?

[arctic ginkgo]

remove vertex colors in blender

can't fix in unity

[steady token]

Damn okay thanks, sucks because idk how to use blender

[short crystal]

does anyone know this avatar

cant find it

plz help

[arctic ginkgo]

#1138520828556890214

[fast bloom]

does anyone do Avatar textures, if so i can pay i just would like some help :p

[junior void]

Youll just get scam dms from here

[fast bloom]

yea

sounds about right

[spark walrus]

you dont need to ask for scam dms, I got at least 1 scam per week without asking anythingxD

[fast bloom]

but i dont know where to find someone good with textures

its not my area of experience

[spark walrus]

what texture edit do you need?

[fast bloom]

its for the avatar Avril by tigerhead

[spark walrus]

yes but what do you want to change in the texture?

[fast bloom]

oh i just wanna theme it, like a custom tex

wish i knew people but womp i dont

[spark walrus]

I can only do simple edit, my artistic skill is too bad xD but if you wan I can ask a friend of me who is not a scammer and maybe he will accept

[fast bloom]

that'd be nice, i trust you
youre friends with my favorite burden Rika

[spark walrus]

Oh yea world is small

I added you^^

[pearl sinew]

gettin these errors

[dark jay]

does anyone know why when i open one of my gogoloco menus it turns on a object on my model

[somber sequoia]

which object?

[dark jay]

a prop on the model

[dark jay]

^

[dark jay]

can u help

[raven phoenix]

If the avatar came with GoGo Loco pre-installed, I would contact the author. Sounds like an animation was changed.
Or remove GGL entirely and re-add it from the original download.

Otherwise GGL shouldn't be responsible for toggling any other parameters other than its own.

[somber sequoia]

not really, this tells me nothing

[dark jay]

i added ragdoll and the object turns on when opening the menu

its my own model

[dark jay]

how do i explain it better

[somber sequoia]

look at what variable gets activated when you open the menu

[dark jay]

let me check

[dark jay]

i cant tell but ill keep looking

[wind skiff]

you can, vrcquesttools has a feature that removes vertex colors

[raven phoenix]

Possible two parameter names are the same between them? Although if you're using the default GGL package, I believe it lets VRCF assign unique names to it. Not 100% on that, may want to check the prefab to verify.

Also.... is it just the menu? Or an actual choice in that menu? afaik no parameters are changed just going through menus in GGL until you actually pick a pose, etc...

You can also build a test copy from NDMF (if used) and VRCF to easily inspect the ExMenu items outside of play mode

[dark jay]

ok

[somber sequoia]

usually GogoLoco's parameters all start with Go/.... BUT it does make use of VRCEmote a lot, so if you use that already, you may end up with gogo stuff causing side-effects.

That's probably the #1 thing I would investigate.

That wouldn't be a problem unless you use it in animations or IK (like with full body tracking)

without knowing how your model is setup I couldn't really give you a good answer here. You could certainly just try it, and if you don't like it, restore from a backup.

Personally I weight paint individual toe bones 🙂

[junior void]

I paint all 3 - foot, toe and each toe x.x

[somber sequoia]

Right - I meant all the way down to the toes 🙂

[junior void]

Fair enough

Now that has me question

Currently i dont have fbt. I unmapped the toes in my rig bc whenever id use gogo and the legs stretch, the toes would angle weirdly

If i use fbt, how does that work with unmapped toe

Wouldnt it have to be mapped to get the toe to move?

[somber sequoia]

Yes - unless you animate the bones or something.

[junior void]

So whats the correct position for a toe? Does it gotta touch the origins floor axis? I would hate to use half body sometimes and every time i space drag or use gogo, the legs stretch and the toes literally go up in a 45 degree to the foot

[somber sequoia]

based on the diagram in #avatar-rigging yeah, the toe bone should be on the floor

[junior void]

Just the tip or the entire thing though

Currently i have it angled just like the foot

[somber sequoia]

pinned diagram suggests the whole thing

[junior void]

Ill have to try that tmrw

Itll probably suck. If i place the whole thing on the floor, then the toes will stretch forward when bending because thats not the mesh's volume center at all

[somber sequoia]

hmmmm ok so looking at one of my own which works fine, the toe bone is parallel to the floor but not on the floor, it's at .02 here.

[junior void]

Thatd make more sense, so i can place it in the toes mesh center

Does the avi sink into the floor by that?

[somber sequoia]

it shouldn't, since the armature's origin is on the origin

[junior void]

Assuming vrc uses bones to determine heel position rather than mesh, unless theres like an offset

Hm alright then

Okay ill try that. Itd make sense that my foot curled 45° if toes are mapped as my toe bone currently angles to the floor like the foot

[worldly whale]

so im adding this and making sliders to fully customize this tron disk and for some reason this raidial puppet doesnt want to work and i dont know why. i have made this one just like all the others yet this one wont work.. any ideas?

[somber sequoia]

you shouldn't need both a blend tree and motion time there

[worldly whale]

this?

[somber sequoia]

that's fine, but I don't see the reason to do that and the blendtree

maybe I'm missing something

[worldly whale]

maybe i am too?\

i dont know

cause

i learned this from another avatar that did it this way and it worked

and it works perfectly fine for the other ones

[somber sequoia]

it used both of these methods? Interesting.

[worldly whale]

and the others i did on this avi

but for some reason its just the outer ring that doesnt work

the animations themselves work its just the radial puppet

[somber sequoia]

So motion time is meant to move through an animation clip, but you aren't doing that. So either drag the clip directly into the "Motion" slot in that last image, or remove the motion time and rely on the blendtree to do it (but then the length of your animation is probably wrong...)

[safe badger]

any idea what could cause a normal looking model in unity to be stretched out in vrchat

like the bones are lengthened almost

[somber sequoia]

videos like this are kinda useless though

[worldly whale]

how?

[somber sequoia]

oh I didn't go far enough. Just looking at the radial moving and the model not is meaningless. let me look further

er

okay so I don't see anything of any use in that at all

[worldly whale]

yeah...

im super confused

cause it works perfectly on everything else EXCEPT for the outer ring

[somber sequoia]

did you look at what the animation clips do? motion time is useful when your clip has a length you want to move through, but in the blend tree that wouldn't make much sense

I don't really understand how this is setup, I guess.

[worldly whale]

this is what the animation clip does

[safe badger]

i think one night i tried to mess with the scaling of my avatar and dont remember what i did, but it broke the dimensions of it. any ideas where i should look? it shows up fine in unity but is broken in vrchat

[somber sequoia]

ok yeah, so I'm not sure why there is a blendtree here.

[dapper lagoon]

Does anyone have a plugin I can use to test seats?

[worldly whale]

Honestly I don't know either but it doesn't work when I don't have it

[worldly whale]

do you have free time to call and i can screenshare my screen?

[pearl sinew]

having these errors, not sure what to do to fix them

[somber sequoia]

I don't really do that, sorry

[worldly whale]

yeah i know...

i just need help with this

[raven phoenix]

Check contextually. The hard stop errors are likely the result of other logged entries before them.

If you don't need the material shaders unlocked during the build process, you could lock them before building.

[winter edge]

What's the difference between poi pro and poi toon?

[raven phoenix]

https://www.poiyomi.com/download/
Check the Patreon Features Chart section

[dusty roost]

how can i make toggles to change a 2d texture change/movement? i followed a tutorial that allowed us to create a 2D face rig in blender where depending on the value of a node, it would snap to a different face texture that was on the same sprite sheet. but then i found out that nodes and stuff dont work in unity anyways so all that work was kind of useless. so i need to figure out a way to add a toggle that will shift over the face texture to the next face sprite but im not sure how to go about that.. heres how it works in blender for reference

[somber sequoia]

you can animate the texture position

usually for a sprite sheet you set the scaling value to one over the number of sprites, then just shift the offset

[dusty roost]

well yeah thats what i have going in blender this is just my first time using unity and im not sure how to do that in unity

[raven orbit]

There should be a UV offset in the material and you can animate that

[dusty roost]

hmmmmm when i change the x or y offset in the material for some reason the texture doesnt move or change at all ..

[pallid jolt]

avatar build failed 😕

[dusty roost]

NVM i figured out why it wasnt moving and fixed it.. so then how could i make a toggle that changes the offset value of the material?

[somber sequoia]

make an animation clip that changes the value, use that in some animator logic

[raven orbit]

go into the animation tab and create a new animation, then press the red circle to record changes, click on the mesh and scroll down to the material and expand it, then change the offset to set a keyframe

[somber sequoia]

heh, not sure I understood that sentence

aha. expected.

[sly lodge]

Can someone tell me why I can't scale down my gloves on my avatar? I'm using a VRCFury toggles for all the clothing parts, I made the shape keys in Blender by scaling everything down to 0, it works on all clothing parts except the gloves. Even if I manually adjust the blendshape in Unity's inspector without the gesture manager running, it looks just fine, but not in the game.

[plain zenith]

Hello everybody! Faced with the problem of crooked avatar hands. I've completely gone over the avatar and I can't figure out what the problem is. In this photo, I hold my arms straight, and as a result, they are bent 90 degrees to each other. Has anyone encountered such a problem? What are the possible causes of the breakdown?

[stiff kiln]

Im trying to make a body for my avatar. Its my first time making a "fully connected" body, so idk what im doing. ^^'
What do you guys think?

[somber sequoia]

nice start!

[dusty roost]

so i figured it out but when i move the face texture it also moves a separate material over by the same amount.. but it only does this WHILE im recording the keyframe of the animation. if i move it over while not recording, it seems to be fine and doesnt move other materials. what am i doing wrong?

[somber sequoia]

ah yes, this is right - using standard shaders if you animate properties on a material, it does that for all materials on that object. You can use shaders like Poiyomi to "rename" shader parameters so only one material is affected

[stiff kiln]

Idk how to make the hands and fingers tho. I dont want to make them bend in weird ways when I close my hands.

[dusty roost]

i am already using poiyomi, how do i rename shader perameters?

[somber sequoia]

https://www.poiyomi.com/general/locking#rename-animated

[stiff kiln]

This is what I have for now. Im struggling especially with the thumb, since its in a odd angle.

[wild birch]

does having bones "Connected" matter?

[somber sequoia]

depends on how you're using them

[somber sequoia]

okay fine. Yes, it matters.

[wild birch]

sorry im too dumb to know when and when it doesnt, cuz i know when example: Chest > Breast it shouldnt be "Connected" but idk if Example: Spine > Chest Should

[somber sequoia]

If you want the child bone's head stuck to the parent bone's tail, then you want to enable that.

Otherwise, don't.

[sly lodge]

In Blender, it does, but when you export it into Unity, then I'm pretty sure, they doesn't matter at all, because Unity doesn't know where the bone ends

[glossy gull]

Hello bois! Little question. The feature i'm adding require me to add "GestureRight" and "GestureLeft" inside my parameter to make a sign (Victory sign to be precise) ... But I already have something using that. If I try creating a new GestureRight, it goes GestureRight 0 and doesn't work. How can I do that please? :D

[somber sequoia]

Don't make a new one, the existing ones are fine

[glossy gull]

The problem is the existing one doesn't allow me to pick "equals" so I can pick the good sign

It's only less or more option

[somber sequoia]

hmm not sure what you're referring to

[glossy gull]

Going from a parameter to the layerFX

As a condition

Like "do that if GestureRight is equal to 5"

[somber sequoia]

oh - possibly you or someone added that parameter to the animator as a float instead of int. You can't use equals with floats.

[glossy gull]

Damn

[somber sequoia]

(you'd have to delete the parameter and re-add it to change the type)

[glossy gull]

And check wherever it delete the wrong floats and add it in again as an int

Gotcha! Thanks alot :3

Seems like it's tied to "Toggle Emotes Smoothing"

I have no idea what it is or where it's supposed to be haha

[stiff kiln]

Just finished my first hand ever. Pretty ugly, I gotta admit, but at least I tried...

[raven orbit]

i had a similar issue when setting up a avatar like that. the keyframe will change both materials on a mesh. i had to make the face a separate mesh in order to affect only that material

[tame badge]

I hate errors like this...

[quaint wedge]

How does it solve this?

[left gull]

?upload

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[left gull]

^^ thats how

you could try toggling emission and setting the color to yellow

[quaint wedge]

Is the error happening because I don't have a minimum rank? What's the minimum?

[left gull]

like the message said "New User"

[quaint wedge]

I've never used Unity, I'm new to VRChat and I bought a skin to use

[left gull]

try making sure you've got all shadows turned off and possibly mess with rim lighting if that doesnt work

[quaint wedge]

oh well

[left gull]

it doesnt take long to reach New User just add people and play for a couple hours

[quaint wedge]

I just have to stay on VRChat a little longer, raise my rank and then the Unity error disappears?

oki

thank you so much

[buoyant wing]

Im back again.

and im still getting the same error message.

"Missing credentials"

No matter what I do it wont let me upload any avatar to any account.

Ive uninstalled and reinstalled everything, logged out then back in.

Still nothing.

Anyone know how to fix this?

[versed granite]

when I enter play my armature is shrinking way down, any fix?

[buoyant wing]

Help

[versed granite]

did you remove the blueprint?

[buoyant wing]

Blueprint?-

Im new to uploading avis

lol

[buoyant wing]

^

[versed granite]

if there is a blue print here remove it

[buoyant wing]

Oh yeah its blank

Oh wait

wth

nvm gimme one second lmao

Nvm

did the same thing again

It keeps adding a blueprint id

[somber sequoia]

it has to, that's normal.

[buoyant wing]

Well, its still giving me the same error.

Idk how to fix this-

[somber sequoia]

wrong variable type maybe?

yep

[tender path]

whaat do i doo im so lost

[raven phoenix]

Restart Unity and try importing the package again. If it still fails, reach out to the original author of the package.

[tender path]

not possible. thanks for the advice tho

[spark walrus]

hey i made this avatar and i was wondering how can i update the textures to make it look good as in the left photo

[fathom current]

Hey my model I just uploaded for some reason is this purple see through color any ideas what’s wrong

[grim condor]

So i need to sync some parameters, however i just realized that i cant find the sync button anywhere (pic related). Am I just missing something here, or is there a problem?

[timber wharf]

expand

like to the left

they hide

[timber wharf]

uh bro thats 2019 and 128 param memory, thats like 2 years outdated sdk

[grim condor]

i mean its still been working, new version kept crashing and failing to install its dependencies so i gave up on that

[timber wharf]

idk, my guess its synced by defsult as it was before

[grim condor]

This is just an issue because a bunch of my params, interacted with via contacts, arent syncing for other users

so i figure i need to check the box to sync it

[timber wharf]

if its parameter used in the reciever itself it doesnt need to be used in variables overall. theyre local as well, ie may deoend on you/other person having interactions on

[grim condor]

i see;
i mean its all self interactions that are functioning for the local user, but would it be worth trying to force with like param drivers or something?

[timber wharf]

well then yes but with separate variable, not the same one that used for local contact

ie locally you see contact and drive some other synced variable. and then you and everyone see some animation based on synced variable

thats how long term stuff better be done

[grim condor]

gotcha

[tame badge]

Whats the combination here to not have the armature be 100/100/100?

[somber sequoia]

apply scalings = FBX ALL

[tame badge]

TY ❤️ I remember having had this before but did not remember what exactly to do. I'm super close to successfully having made a new blend shape that does not also break everything else XD

[somber sequoia]

at the top of the export dialog you can save settings as an "operator preset"

[buoyant thorn]

this seems so random but would anyone know a good physbone setting for a slim tail with a lot of bones?

or like any tips cause ive tried so many different settings in play mode none turn out good lol

[somber sequoia]

mixamo comes to mind first

[tough snow]

So! I'm trying to make a model I got from an artist to work with VRChat, it wasn't made with VRChat in mind which is proooobaly why I'm running into issues, lmao. Currently, the rigging seems to decide to simply explode in Unity, anything I can do to fix the rigging rather than learning how to rig and replacing it myself?

I do not know why there's just a giant bone floating down there, lmao.

It seems to just be "Root"?

[timber wharf]

theres severe problems with what bone whose parent. check pins in #avatar-rigging to see correct hierarchy. youd need blender to fix those.

[tough snow]

Ah, got it!

[timber wharf]

(but ye def easier than rigging from scratch)

[tough snow]

oh no.

[spark walrus]

Unity question, i got another pc coming and would it he okay to put my unity projects from my ssd drive and transfer the whole drive to a new pc would it still work or is there a better way to transfer data and unity projects and saved avatars?

[night ember]

I mean if its an ssd you can just turn it into an external drive and then have it as an extra drive separate from the pc so you get more space

[proud oracle]

i'm having some issues with contacts, can someone confirm if one contact sender can trigger mutiple contact reveivers at the same time?

nvm... perameter name typo

[compact mulch]

How can I make this parent (world) constraint always put it on the ground? My mesh origin is at the base of the mesh

[spark walrus]

I'm putting it in the extra slot on the motherboard so it'll be like the second drive. Just wondering if my projects and saved avatars will work

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

I mean do they work now?

[ornate stump]

Normally it should work.

[spark walrus]

Yes

[spark walrus]

Tyty

[wraith saffron]

I would like to make working glasses in VRChat. (ie. Glasses prop that if removed from my face, makes my vision all blurry.)
Is this possible? How would I do this? ||I'd imagine it would involve some shader tricks in the view space but I honestly have no idea where to start since I'm a professional asset cobbler not a creator.||

[arctic ginkgo]

I'd think a screenspace shader (only enabled locally) would be what you're looking for. If you want to be the only one who can remove your glasses, contacts could work for grabbing them, but if you want other people to be able to grab them too, it's best to attach them to a physbone. You can also use an animated headchop component to make the glasses visible after being grabbed (utilizing the physbone parameters to detect this)

Cancerspace has a blur effect iirc

[wraith saffron]

Why is it "canncerspace" 😭

[somber sequoia]

you don't need screenspace, though that'd work reasonably well - you could just do a local-only sphere around your view ball with a shader on the inside faces

[somber sequoia]

it's pretty easy to use for really evil things

(guessing, I didn't name it)

I did the local sphere trick (with head chop) to put the wireframe shader on my avatar as a debugging tool

[wraith saffron]

Yup it has blur in there. Soon I shall be able to be near sighted IRL and in VRChat! xD

(Just thought it'd be a funny thing lol.)

[somber sequoia]

yeah, that's a nice immersion trick

[fossil gate]

Hey there! Can somebody help me, what is the basic shader that VRC? Should I apply that shader in Blender or in Unity? (sry I'm new to VRC and SDK..)

[somber sequoia]

if you want it in VRChat, Shaders are used in Materials in Unity.

[fossil gate]

Oh, thank you!!

[spark walrus]

hey i made this avatar and i was wondering how can i update the textures to make it look good as in the left photo

[white geyser]

What does that mean?

[ornate stump]

You had error. But you have to also turn on error filter in the console to see the errors.

[white geyser]

Says I’m missing a directive or assembly

[steady token]

I can't figure out how to make two separate animations for hue shifts on one mesh without all of it hue shifting or only one side, does anyone have any advice?

[flat notch]

Ok how the heck do i animate a prefab and still make it functional?

[white geyser]

This is what google says but idk if it means the unity editor version?

[somber sequoia]

it does but that's not very useful

[ornate stump]

It has to be fixed base on the error itself.

[white geyser]

Yeah Ik

What should I do then

[ornate stump]

Should at least google the red error detail instead.

[ornate stump]

But you're are mostly missing required packages: you didn't import all the necessary packages.

[worldly whale]

so im adding this and making sliders to fully customize this tron disk and for some reason this raidial puppet doesnt want to work and i dont know why. i have made this one just like all the others yet this one wont work.. any ideas?

[white geyser]

I’m a little dense what does that mean

Should I make a new project? Or smthn

[ornate stump]

Read instruction from the page you got the avatar from.

[white geyser]

I made it ?

It has mmds on it could that be a problem

[opal relic]

Important question: several people came to me about helping me rig an avatar for a price. I think I have found a deal. I'm just not sure if they will be able to hold up their end of the bargain or scam me out of $35. What do I ask to make sure they can put out a good quality rig?

[ornate stump]

So do you know the script that 's causing the issue?

[ornate stump]

Check if they're authorized from VRC Traders server. Otherwise, it's a scam.

[white geyser]

There’s a lot

[ornate stump]

According to the error. It's from script AvatarStateBindingService. Do you know that?

[white geyser]

I know that’s it’s an avatar state binding service error but I don’t know what that means

[ornate stump]

Did you add or import the script?

[white geyser]

I haven’t imported any script no?

[ornate stump]

The script isn't in standard sdk so it had to be included in some package you imported. Since you had no idea then try start with a new project.

[tulip vapor]

Its been doing this for days now, ive done the parameters right, and in the FX too but it still doesnt work and some of the toggles work too when set up the same way.. any help?

also this

[arctic ginkgo]

are these supposed to be individual toggles? or are these supposed to all be different options for the same thing

[tulip vapor]

different options

[arctic ginkgo]

is there a reason it's set up as a bool toggle instead of an int toggle?

[tulip vapor]

like i only showed one of them bc all the others are the same set up with yk different functons with parameters

well

im not sure

i used int as well

and it does the same thing

so i tried a different parameter yk

and it still does the same problem

[arctic ginkgo]

but they shouldn't be bool toggles if they are all controlling the same thing

bool toggles are for on/off, int toggles are for if you have a variety of options

[tulip vapor]

oh i see

i used int before

and it does the same problem though?

like i just switched to bool rn

[arctic ginkgo]

how are your expressions controlled?

[tulip vapor]

wdym like the settup or?

[arctic ginkgo]

like blendshapes, texture swap, face rig, etc

[tulip vapor]

my guess is that the 72.4 is causing the issue currently

but like

the others are 100 and do the same thing

[arctic ginkgo]

what do each of these blendshapes do?

[tulip vapor]

the "YAY" makes his eyes go up

if thats what your asking

[arctic ginkgo]

do you have your FX controller in the FX playable layers slot in the avatar descriptor?

[tulip vapor]

yep

like i said only some of them work and they are set up like the others too

the others however from the working ones dont work

for some reason

[arctic ginkgo]

do the layers controlling the expressions that don't work have their weight set to 1?

[tulip vapor]

on the menu or the animator layer weight?

hold on these?

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah

[tulip vapor]

yeah they are 1 value

[arctic ginkgo]

are any of the animations controlling the same blendshapes as the other ones?

[tulip vapor]

yes they are

do you mean like

[arctic ginkgo]

okay make an int toggle instead

also animate every blendshape on each animation

[tulip vapor]

same used blendshapes from 1 animation used again in another one?

[arctic ginkgo]

*every blendshape used for expressions

change the animations so that every animation animates every blendshape used for expressions, just set the ones not being used for that expression to 0

then make an int toggle with them

instead of how you have it now

see if that works

[tulip vapor]

so every other blendshape not used in an animation all on 0?

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah

the ones used for expressions

if you have blendshpes for other things leave those alone

[tulip vapor]

so the ones not in the anim get added but at 0 basically?

[arctic ginkgo]

yes

[tulip vapor]

alr

some of the others are used for blendshape speaking do i add those too or no?

[arctic ginkgo]

no, like i said, just the ones used for the expressions

[tulip vapor]

alr

[stoic stag]

I need help. I dont know why I get this error

[inland seal]

I deleted like half of things, but it still says this error

[night ember]

Did you try uploading again?

[inland seal]

It doesnt let me

[night ember]

Do you have any other errors

[inland seal]

And now it works ;D

[barren tundra]

Odd question, but if I make a quest version of my avatar I don't really need to care about the view on the descriptor do I? I'm on PC so I don't think that technically matters to me unless I play on Quest one day.

[light charm]

does anybody know how to fix emotes breaking whenever you jump? it's been bugging me for a year now, any help is appreciated, thanks!

[night ember]

Dont have a jump&fall

Whenever you change your locomotion state it forces back tracking

[somber sequoia]

huh, that's probably true

I wonder if that messes up any height calculations

[barren tundra]

It might. It occurs to me i don't know the height of my quest version

[light charm]

how?

[night ember]

Locomotion layer

[light charm]

do i delete it?

[night ember]

If you want to

You can also just add a condition to the transition that vrcemote needs to be 0

[light charm]

how would i do that?

[night ember]

Just add the vrcemote parameter set to equals 0?

[glossy gull]

Ok I need more help from pro's haha.
I'm trying to use a spiderman-like animation, so basically shooting a web. I put the two assets in each wrist, created layer, parameter and all. Everything is working... But if I try using both gesture at once, it doesn't. One web stop the other from working, I can't have them send at the same time. Do someone knows why?

It's two separared animation as well

[molten pulsar]

Does anyone here know the Performance rating of the VrChat robot that is displayed if you have an avatar blocked ?

[somber sequoia]

you'd have to look at what parameters are used in the animation logic, maybe it's the same? maybe there's some exclusivity check?

[glossy gull]

I have one parameter for each side, so Left and Right, it's pretty basic, I did check but it seems to be ok at this side

[fervent meteor]

is there a way to invert a texture in unity?

im trying to import a model rn and the arm is inverted and im not finding a way to fix it?

[light charm]

inverted how? it would help if you could provide a screenshot

[balmy lantern]

is there a good way to see exactly where the parameter sync is failing between pc and quest? Some people on quest have told me what I see isn't what they see.

[fervent meteor]

so im inporting a minecraft model to vrchat for a project but the left arm is upside down and all i would need to do is invert the texture but idk how to

cuz if i cant ill probs just invert the texture itself manually but im just seeing if theres and easier way before i do that

[barren tundra]

Anyone know how to fix this LowerArm is not first child of UpperArm or Hand is not first child of LowerArm issue?

It looks like I'm becoming an eldritch horror ingame when I move my arms.

The more annoying part is the low poly version of the other model so they share the same armature and controller.

nevermind figured it out. When I exported from blender the armature's order was messed with. I had to unpack the prefab and just move the left and right wrist up to be the first child.

Just sharing my solution incase anyone else encounters it.

[timber wharf]

while it is working quick fix, overall unpacking humanoid prefab is a bad idea, so please dont consider it general advice.

[barren tundra]

I mean then whats the good solution? Because the armature in blender is in the correct order. Apparently its Unity that changed it up

[stable isle]

which is more optimized:?

• material swaps with 8 different materials & textures for a slider (each 512x512 px
  or
• 1 sprite sheet with 1 material with offset for a slider (1024x2048 px)

[timber wharf]

@barren tundra for long lasting changes you want to order them forever in blender alphabetically, one common way is to use zBoneName for non-numanoid stuff (so its neck -> head+zAccessoryNecklace or smth)

@stable isle first in theory may allow to push unused assets to ram when out of vram, but overall doesnt matter. first one is way simpler as well tho.

@barren tundra and this as a compromise https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/silenttools

[young furnace]

I'm very new to avi creating / editing and I added the "Card Bending" asset to an avi I had recently purchased. It then hit me with this

& it's not letting me upload it because of these issues

[somber sequoia]

Yep, you'd have to remove some of both of those

[young furnace]

I figured as much, but it is becoming increasing difficult to find out where the Physbones or Contacts actually reside in the avi

[somber sequoia]

yeah it can get complex

[south laurel]

hi all, ive got an issue where unity says my characters thumb bones are not in a t pose even when they are, and enforcing t pose fixes it, but it reverts when i hit apply and done. any suggestions? if i just ignore it an export it anyways the character has no animation

[timber wharf]

@young furnace type t:script in tiny window on top of hierarchy

[sly lodge]

you can try search up t:VRCPhysBone or t:VRCContactSender, t:VRCContantReceiver

[young furnace]

I found out where most of my contacts are coming from

I have a couple of weapons on my avi that have the ability to be dropped in the world.

Plus holsters

[young furnace]

Thank you so much!

That helped alot actually

[hushed cypress]

I have no clue how to fix this if anyone can help?

[nova panther]

can anyone help me with unity and stuff just need help with clothing

its like locked

[somber sequoia]

what are you attempting to do here?

[torn vector]

Is there a way I can change all the materials onmy avatar in one quick go or do I have to do each one manually. Not like multi selecting because there inn different places if yk what I mean

[somber sequoia]

... how many do you have?

[torn vector]

Not many, but theres alot that are unused

[timber wharf]

you can search for materials and wdym "change"

[torn vector]

I want to change from poyomi to liltoon

but I im lazy and want to change them all

at once

[timber wharf]

prob would look like shit without tweakikg anyway. like poi got tool to convert from lil but i dont think other way around. mostly, just why, theyre quite identical

[torn vector]

No I mean just like change them because most of them use liltoon shaders but I wanted to use poi then regret it because everything was made to be used with liltoon

A dumb decision on my behalf which is not coming back to bite me

[young furnace]

I lied XD

This is why

I already deleted so many other contacts though

[mint echo]

setting toggles and uv tile discard doesnt record in the animation for some reason anyone know?

nvm got it i had to select mesh for some reason

[somber sequoia]

often that happens if the animation or- yes that 🙂

[lavish berry]

i need help setting up an avi i downloaded

[somber sequoia]

feel free to ask specific questions here

[nova panther]

i dmed u about the help

[lavish berry]

?

[somber sequoia]

I noticed, but I'm not going to answer there.

[nova panther]

oh why?

[somber sequoia]

I don't do one-on-one help for free. Feel free to ask questions in the channel here where others may also contribute.

[nova panther]

im just trying to move the clothes onto the avatar and i cant make them bigger or anything or even move them

[mossy swan]

Oookay, I haz new problemz...
I have a radial puppet that does not like to cooperate.
In VRC, when I try to change the value, all of a sudden the value starts jumping around from 100% to 0% and every random number inbetween every frame.

[lavish berry]

i just downloaded sinestra bunny girl but need help setting up the toggles

and everything

[nova panther]

can someone help me with this please

[young furnace]

I've been working on this for a hot minute

And a new problem has arose

[lavish berry]

thats alot of words

[young furnace]

Yep

[nova panther]

can you help me?

[somber sequoia]

please don't ping people to ask for help

[upbeat sluice]

can't say for sure from the image but looks like your trying to move it from the wrong part would be my guess

[somber sequoia]

If you could explain exactly what you're doing, this might be easier.

One assumes you've already watched basic tutorials....

[somber sequoia]

probably didn't merge in the parameters list required. not sure if this has fury components or how the install works, I've never seen it

[young furnace]

Has Fury Components

I'll look into it

[hidden loom]

On the picture you have the panty mesh selected. This panty mesh likely is attached to an armature with bones. If you select the mesh and try to move it it wont move because you aren't moving the bones. You need to find the correct bone, select it and move the parent bone or root bone to be able to move the mesh

[upbeat sluice]

one question is if this is in the sdk or console

[young furnace]

It's in SDK

[nova panther]

omg thank you so much

[upbeat sluice]

next question how did you try to install it

with the normal way of using vrcfury or manual attempt

if its normal i can only think of that in the prefab the parameter menu is missing

[mossy swan]

You know what...I wonder if its Write Defaults fighting with the slider...

[young furnace]

I did it the normal way

WAIT

I think I found it

I think I'm good now

[upbeat sluice]

best of luck

[upbeat sluice]

i can only think of one problem from experience for that and that is you put the parameter in the wrong part of the radial menu

[mossy swan]

Alright, so, to double check it...how's this look?

[somber sequoia]

looks right

[upbeat sluice]

so its not the parameter that's causing it next thing it could be is animation or how you setup the animation layer

[upbeat sluice]

ok that explains a bit on what the problem is

[mossy swan]

Oh?

[somber sequoia]

why is that loop checkbox checked?

[upbeat sluice]

nope

[mossy swan]

Didn't really see a reason to uncheck them. They're checked by default.

[somber sequoia]

these clips shouldn't be looping

[mossy swan]

Is there a particular reason?

[somber sequoia]

they set a value and don't need to keep re-setting it over and over

[upbeat sluice]

1d blend tree is not meant for radials that you want to go in the case emission from value 0 to 2 in this case here

[somber sequoia]

eh... there's nothing wrong with using a blendtree for this.

I do exactly this, though buried in a direct blendtree

[upbeat sluice]

doesn't it go with a on off state and not the the values in-between when done like that?

[somber sequoia]

the whole point of a blendtree is to blend between two clips.

[mossy swan]

I'm hoping to have it as a scaling value, I don't know how to code a script that auto-adjusts emission intensity to compensate for differing world emission multipliers.

[somber sequoia]

You'd need your shader to do that. Some attempt to, I have a slider for this since it's not very reliable

who knows what weird things the world lighting is doing

[mossy swan]

Its kind of a nasty surprise when it happens. In one world it'll be fine. Then in another it turns into a nuclear sun because its got like a 12x multiplier.

[somber sequoia]

Yep

[upbeat sluice]

so thunder your problem is that when it gets to 100 it jumps to 0 on the radial correct or something else?

[mossy swan]

Mmm, once I try to mess with it, it'll jump between random numbers

Once I try to mess with it, its like opening pandora's box, and the only way I can get it to stop jumping around is by resetting the avatar.

[upbeat sluice]

sadly i can't think of what could be causing it since the only problem i know that would cause it was having rotation and parameter set to the same one

[mossy swan]

Always coming in with the bangers no one's ever seen before.

🙃

[solid grail]

hey so recently made a asset, whenever i try to enable it in vrchat the model doesn't appear for anyone but me

[upbeat sluice]

my only question is, is it only that radial that's doing this if there are other or not?

[solid grail]

appears just fine in unity and appears just fine for me, just doesnt show for other people

[somber sequoia]

make sure your parameter in the avatar parameters list is marked "Synced"

[solid grail]

that... could be it

[mossy swan]

The only other control I have is a toggle, and the toggle's behaving as it should.

[solid grail]

yep that was the problem thanks, do you know any good introduction to making animations for changing material parameters and such?

would like to be able to turn off my emissives

[somber sequoia]

I'm sure there are lots of tutorials, I don't have any links offhand though.

[mossy swan]

I don't know how I do it where I'm always coming in with the unsolveable mysteries of the universe.

[somber sequoia]

at this point everything I come up with is so complicated I may as well just work it out rather than try to explain 🙂

[upbeat sluice]

i would say try reuploading it since that has solved multiple problems for me

[mossy swan]

I'mma add something in case tinkering with loops and write defaults didn't fix it. A toggle to act as a safety.

If it starts going bonkers again, disable all of it.

[queen nimbus]

Does anyone know why my avi is invisible even though I'm still relatively far away?

[upbeat sluice]

i wont bother trying to explain write defaults since i know i am not the right person for it but as far as loop is concerned that will only stop the radial looping back to 0 when you max it well if its unchecked

[mossy swan]

Ugh...and another thing; it REALLY does not like me trying to use animations to change the scale of bones bound to avatar animations.

[barren tundra]

my avatar broke after upload and i dont know why. it was fine initially but broke all of a sudden. Only happens when I move

[mossy swan]

Hard locks the scale to 1:1:1

[upbeat sluice]

select the object and press f

i am taking the guess that its your viewpoint and not the camera

[queen nimbus]

2x click in the avi worked too

[fathom meadow]

I am basically brand new to blender, unity and making avatars, so can anyone give me something like a step by step on how to make a png avatar that will stay a png avatar with the quest shader, cause it works fine with pc but whenever I try to use quest shaders it just breaks, pls help

[somber sequoia]

breaks how?

[fathom meadow]

it gets like a wiered white square behind it

and is just a normal picture and not a png anymore

[somber sequoia]

you aren't trying to use a transparent PNG, are you? 'cause that isn't supported on Quest.

[upbeat sluice]

think that one might be a limitation on quest

[fathom meadow]

but I have seen png avatars that work on quest

[somber sequoia]

Sure, just not transparent ones

The issue might also be vertex colors, but it might help to see it

[fathom meadow]

this is the png

I want it to work like if you have seen it that diddy avatar that some people use

where its transparent all around it

[somber sequoia]

yeah that transparency isn't going to work on quest.

you could cut it out though

[fathom meadow]

cut it out?

[somber sequoia]

bring it into blender and turn the probably square face into something more complex. the knife tool could work

[fathom meadow]

so just put the png on a plane in blender and cut it out?

[somber sequoia]

it's one way to do it, sure.

[fathom meadow]

Alright thank you

ill try that

is there a way I can like just key out the black and cut it that way or do i gotta manually cut out each peice

[somber sequoia]

dunno, I've never tried this 🙂

I bet there's some super complicated way to project that image into mesh

[fathom meadow]

ehhh ill just keep manually doing it I got time

ok I cut it out but the texture diapeared how do i export it with the texture

[somber sequoia]

don't bother, just setup the material in Unity

[fathom meadow]

k

thanks a ton finally got it working

[somber sequoia]

excellent!

[mortal barn]

so ever since i think tge last update a few days ago, when i switch into a new avatar the hip dosent affix to the right place an i need to manually recalibrate

[mortal barn]

this essentially

this exact bug

[barren tundra]

apparently i had an emote on. it wasnt resetting though

[mortal barn]

hmm

so my issues different

since the last update changing avatars can sometimes completely throw the hip off

its not all

but some

[somber sequoia]

whoa

[mortal barn]

ive had other people experience the same issue

https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports/p/saved-fbt-calibration-breaks-on-some-avatars

[somber sequoia]

what's the constraint on the head do?

[stable isle]

ca anyone help? i can't upload on quest?

ok now the vrchat sdk isn't even loading in my project anymore?!!

[restive scaffold]

It worked fine with other avatars I've done.

[somber sequoia]

click configure and put the right bones in the right places

[restive scaffold]

Ah, thank you.

Not sure why it imported it with the bone being on the Jaw.

[somber sequoia]

sometimes it's not very good at guessing

[mortal barn]

as soon as the avatar loads it brings thehead down to the somach so my voice is in the right spot

[somber sequoia]

huh, never heard of anyone doing that before.

[mortal barn]

its how the durpoi and other avatars that can do secret speech work

im using it so my voice locations accurate to my avis mouth location lol

[errant kraken]

Is there a way of setting the default height value in the editor, without scaling anything in the scene?

[night ember]

what

[mortal barn]

i put a feature request in a few months back for giving us the ability to move our voices in the sdk so all of this headbone constraint animation nonsense isent necessary

[night ember]

Im not surprised that broke in an update

[mortal barn]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests/p/voice-location-for-puppeteering

i notice other avatars that use this method arent always broken?

maybe i can change the transition time to fix it

[somber sequoia]

ahh that trick, ok

yeah probably spawn in with it in the correct place for a few frames. we've had to do this with stations too

iirc 3 frames works for that

[mortal barn]

hmm mk

[dark bloom]

ya avatar i don't own.... my id is empty and was never full to start why is this happening and can it be fixed. feel like someone hacked my account/ sdk but that unlikely right lol
jokes aside i tried on latest sdk from campaign and 3 versions down the one i normally use and both act this way

should also say ive remove cleared and readded the model multiple time with nothing changing, only other thing i saw was that even though the model has all its bones the sdk keeps saying its missing half of them after i reload

[spark walrus]

hey i made this avatar and i was wondering how can i update the textures to make it look good as in the left photo

[dark bloom]

change the render mode of the shader your using at the top of the menu for standard

[timber wharf]

@dark bloom id error is irrelevant, sdk runs this every time anything else fails

[dark bloom]

think i found the problem, when i exported from blender it added a .001 to the armature and i removed it without thinking this made it not see the bones right

just went back into bender nd remove it as all my animation path are with the .001 off it lol

[covert laurel]

I don't understand how the base model I use from the creator is perfectly good to upload without being too large for vrchat but when I do a custom that only has the avatar base, my retexture, a new clothing asset that is replacing the old clothing, and gogo loco all of a suddon it is 60mb too large? Is unity and vrc having some sort of freak out at the moment? I have never had this issue before when doing this.

[dark bloom]

gogo loco uses alot unless use use the lite version so that could be it plus textures can be deceiving they seem small but end up being the reaon as one mat uses 3-4 if your not carful

[night ember]

I mean goloco is kinda dense

Also depends on your texture size

And clothing isnt ever 1 to 1 on file size

[covert laurel]

I had this same gogo on the base model when I first bought the base model

[dark bloom]

most models now a days are small, it ends up being animatios and textures that i always see get everyone

[covert laurel]

I deleted everything that I am not using and am replacing

[night ember]

And?

Your replacements is likely the issue

[dark bloom]

Confirmed I fixed this, It was do to me removing what i thought was an unneeded .001 from blender export

[stone summit]

is anyone able to help me fix this ;_;

[dark bloom]

a few people here can, but won't, do you know blender if so its a bit of weight painting and should be good if not you got a few options

• easy but not best one is look on Youtube for some videos and do a ruff fix
• I can help you threw it tomorrow and it be cleaner and no chance of model stolen, i will never tock the model myself just help you threw the steps.
• or you can wait for someone else to come along they may ask for the model ( plz never give other people your model) or do what i would be doing

[stone summit]

Thank you for responding! Oh yea! I wouldnt want to undermine the wonderful artist who made the model so I wouldnt give the work off to anyone! ^^ It possibly being a weight paitning issue can lead me in a better direction. I tried googling before but came up empty handed. I appreciate it.

[dark bloom]

your very welcome

[somber sequoia]

yep, couple of vertices with missing weight paint. If you got the model like this and didn't cause that, return it 🙂

[inland seal]

I cant place the Shoes in place ;D

[mossy swan]

Checked the debug. It seems to in fact be an issue with the parameter? The radial puppet is mimicking the motion of the variable. Also I narrowed down the behavior; it wants to jump back to its default value of 1 every other frame.

[dark bloom]

first off that's lying about three things,
extra bones to effect avatar rank, there is no way this can add without problems models that have no bones existing already, and the fact that its the best way to do what your trying.

Do what they said and check your debug but I'd use blender or find someone that can if possible instead of this.

Also I'm only just subjecting it since from what I've seen these types of unity "help plugins" an old one named pumpkin before this one only use simple code to parent bones that are named the same or alike, meaning it can be buggy or not work. and very laggy if you use it on to many models since the bones do not go away.

[inland seal]

Im not lying, I really cant place it no matter what

[dark bloom]

not you the plugin is, sorry if that confused you some how?

[inland seal]

plugin?

[dark bloom]

VRCfurry your using to try and parent the shoes

[inland seal]

Ik

So what should I use then?

[dark bloom]

blender or anthing like it always best, if you don't kow how there are people here that can help and youtube videos that can make it learning faster

[inland seal]

I have blender

Idk how to use it

[dark bloom]

If you ask here or in 3d modeling im sure someone can help with getting them atached or seeing if they have bones already

[inland seal]

sure

[dark bloom]

its 4am for me so i can't help myself lol I was only finishing a model I was having problems with but I'm sure someone will se this and pick up the conversation
only said something about the vrcfurry as I've seen to many models that are messy and/or not working do to it. kinda wish false plugins like that at least the part about magically putting clothing and stuff on your avatars could be banned

[inland seal]

I cant open the file since the format is .fbx or "Autodesk Maya"

I dont have money to buy it ;D

[dark bloom]

?? Blender can open .fbx files its a default option since version 2.3

As long as you're version same or newer then use import and find the file

[inland seal]

ok

Oh damn

is that normal?

@dark bloom

[dark bloom]

That's not,
Also I thank you for needing my help and relying on me but i need sleep as i said its 4am for me and i should have been in bed ages ago lol

[inland seal]

srry

who should I ping?

[dark bloom]

As far as I'm aware there is no ping role you have to wait. Id say move it to 3d modeling but remembered that people here hate what you ask things on multiple channels, even if you have reason like the other dead.

[inland seal]

I will just wait here

[inland seal]

I kinda fixed it but why does the model scaled down a little bit?

[brave viper]

hey so i'm looking at getting some clothes from booth but of course there isn't a version for my avatar

i'm technically not a stranger to working on modifications on blender but would it be better to get a version that's bigger or smaller than my model?

for reference,
https://booth.pm/en/items/6248221

[night ember]

depends

[brave viper]

https://stray-lamb.booth.pm/items/2097499

lol ope

[night ember]

assuming you dont plan on changing the bust or overall body shape
itd be better to go for the most similar body type

[brave viper]

now that you mention it, i was considering going smaller or flat

[night ember]

which would be the better option

[brave viper]

sorry are you asking a question?

[night ember]

Im stating it would be the better option

[brave viper]

which one?

[night ember]

similar body type of smaller/flat

[brave viper]

ahh

[night ember]

instead of more of the sexualized busty models it can go on

[brave viper]

yeah i'm going through a slight image quandry right now

I prefer modest anyway but I'm not sure if I want to keep having breasts or not

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

up to you

[brave viper]

yeah i know lol

FWIW i'm not going any bigger than Lena's default size

so yeah i'm not turbo busty

even currently

but thank you for the advice Diven

[inland seal]

can you help me? ;D

[night ember]

simple answer
take it into blender

[inland seal]

I did

Whats next?

Idk how to use blender

[night ember]

then take the actual avatar into blender and fit the shoes

[inland seal]

uh

How do I scale?

[night ember]

edit mode and it has a scale tool

[inland seal]

ok

And then I just export it?

[night ember]

after deleting the main avatar and leave just the shoe sure

[brave viper]

oh uh

[inland seal]

ok

[brave viper]

for optimization's sake, i believe, is there any benefit or detriment in removing the base avatar's skin underneath the clothes? Assuming there's no plans to toggle clothes off to reveal underneath

i figure deleting all those meshes would be keen?

[night ember]

I mean if you literally delete it then less vertices and blendshape data and material slots if its a separate material

[brave viper]

oh sorry i didn't mean delete the entire skin thing, just the parts that are obscured by clothes

[night ember]

less vertices and blendshape data still

[brave viper]

is that good or bad

[night ember]

its less so better

[inland seal]

Strange but theyre fine in blender

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

blendshapes then? who knows

also could be the fact you are using vrcfury instead of just adding the shoes to the avatar directly

[inland seal]

Wha.

[inland seal]

But its hard 😭

You have to like animate it and then do other stuff

[night ember]

what are you on about

[inland seal]

I saw a video where you have to make 2 animations for on and off

It takes so long..

[night ember]

that takes only a few seconds to do

[inland seal]

For a person that doesnt know this it will be hard

[night ember]

also dont expect avatar work to just be take 2 seconds and you now have an entire avatar done

it takes time and effort

also just take the time to learn instead of going "it will be hard"

[light charm]

yep

[brave viper]

it took me like 9 hours in Blender, plus however many more hours researching Youtube tutorials to custom fit my first outfit, Mystic

[night ember]

everything you dont know how to do will always be hard so just learn how to do it and guess what
it gets easier

[inland seal]

welp

alr

[brave viper]

you can do it Mystic

[ornate stump]

That part is for toggle object on/off. If you just wanted to add object without toggle then there is no need for animation.