avatar-help

[carmine flint]

:0
Alright, I'll do it again without unpacking anything this time.

Actually, I baked the animations into the FBX in unity, would that mess with anything?

[junior void]

Do they work in unity when previewing

[carmine flint]

Yes

[junior void]

Should be fine. Does the tail twitch at all when you use the puppet or not

[carmine flint]

Not at all, it's totally unresponsive.

[kind wave]

Can someone please help me understand why this is happening? It was fine a second ago then I added some earring and then this happened. Please help

[junior void]

Have you looked into your fx layer in play mode? Do the parameters get driven with the puppet? (Gesture manager debug menu)

[carmine flint]

They do!

[junior void]

Try recording one animation in unity, doesnt have to be pretty, just something with the tail and slap it into any one of the puppet animations

Just to double check the animation yk

[half thorn]

I was trying to make a black templar avatar, but I got these errors and I don't know how do fix them. Also the textures Death_company_Black_Templar.png and spacemarine_pawn_whitescars_t1_s.png have to be displayed at the same time, (one is for pauldrons and chest, the other one is for rest of the body) but when they're enabled at the same time, they just override each other and mix

[junior void]

Configure your rig in your fbx import settings. If you have all this mapped already there, drag a new fbx into the scene and copy your stuff over if you need (pumpkins avatar tools can handle most of it)

[half thorn]

I don't know how

[arctic ginkgo]

are you trying to get 2D eyes or this style of eyes

bc if you didn't already know how these eyes are made, the white part is actually a hole in the face, and the iris moves around inside the hole

it gives a similar effect to follow-me eyes in a fursuit

also just allows for more freedom in eye shape

as an example, here is an avatar I recently made for a commision, if you look inside you'll see that the whites of the eyes are actually just a hole in the face, and the eyes sit at the front of the hole

[hard turtle]

Ah so then they just rig a circle to a bone ?

Alr ill try it

[spark walrus]

I figured out the issue I had before was because of textures that neither of us have, after resolving what I could there's only 1 missing texture which is a metallic roughness map, is there a way to make one from the base texture?

This is literally the last thing I need to do before it's good to upload 😭

Oh also the original sketchfab model was deleted which is why I'm going through this effort

[tawny shell]

if anyone saw my message asking for help with disappearing parts from my avatar on certain viewing angles, it was a bounde thing. i had to redeit the bounds

[carmine flint]

Thank you for taking the time to help me! I greatly appreciate it. It was the animations :[

[rough jewel]

i have all the necessary assets, i still cant figure out why pcss is erroring out on me
if anyone else has pcss and has encountered this issue before, how do you solve it?

tried reimporting, didnt work

[ripe tide]

Anyone know the parameter VRChat uses for lipsyncs

[rough jewel]

oh wait

i need unity 2022, thats why...

im a dummy

[spark walrus]

Gonna just download a different model to replace it, won't need a fix anymore

[indigo compass]

No, shapekeys only affect the mesh.
You'll want to use an animation.

[subtle sigil]

hello, in vr my avatar fingers close when i press any button

i didn't add any animations or constraints to the fingers

[clear delta]

Does every animation need its own unique animator when creating a custom animations

Testing out a theory S to why it is playing only local and not global

Also I do have them all saved and synced

[somber meadow]

no, that would be horrible for performance to require subanimators

everything (non transform) can be done in the single FX layer

[indigo compass]

It depends on what it is affecting, but, generally, you'd want to stick custom animations in a layer in the fx animator slot.

[clear delta]

I'll try that when I get home

And i do have custom locomotion animations so those go in to actions then?

[barren wharf]

is anyone able to help with just the eyes being blank i was able to fix the camera

[clear delta]

I'll try that after work, should i put the locomotion layer in action?

Or combine the 2

[somber sequoia]

You'd have to go look at the rigging setup, in the inspector for the model file

[indigo compass]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/playable-layers/
Best to read this.

There are 5 "animators", but they are all combined when uploading so it becomes one.
They are however meant for different things.
Locomotion should be in the base layer according to VRChat.

You can find an example base animator included with the SDK (you might just need to search for it)

[subtle sigil]

hello, in vr my avatar fingers close when i press any button
i didn't add any animations or constraints to the fingers

[static harbor]

so im making a three headed cerberus does anybody know how i would go about applying lip sync to all three heads instead of it only working on the main head
does anybody know how i would go about using blender to merge/assign blendshapes so they are the same (ah oh ch or whatever if they have custom)
or if theres a videon that could help me

[spark walrus]

hey i brougt this texture and i need help with it
(ping me )

[blazing echo]

what you need?

[fathom fossil]

someone help

[spark walrus]

help applying it

[blazing echo]

so do you not know how to use unity?

like uhh adding textures in general

or like using photoshop on the models face

i’d go to photopea.com, go to your files and grab shinras normal mask for her face, then adding a png of the texture on top of it, saving it and dragging it to unity. then applying the texture from there

[blazing echo]

the model just isn’t rigged, doesn’t have an armature probably. was uploaded weird

the eye sight is above where it should be

[fathom fossil]

its has a rig though

[blazing echo]

what about the eye height?

[fathom fossil]

i couldnt change it cus it just had me moving the model

[blazing echo]

that’s why 😓

[spark walrus]

hello uh is there a possibility to copy a gun shot animation and particles and import it to another gun?

[fathom fossil]

would that fixed the arms and it being in the ground though?

[blazing echo]

just particles, you’d have to do the animation yourself

[spark walrus]

how do i import the particles? might i ask?

like how do i copy em

[fathom fossil]

it just moves the model when i try to move the view thing

[blazing echo]

from like, scene to scene or from unity project to unity project?

[blazing echo]

that is a tad annoying, it might be a different height too

[spark walrus]

i dont get it unfortunately

[blazing echo]

are you moving the particles in the hierarchy or from different projects to another

[spark walrus]

no

same one

i wanna move the particles

from A GUN

to another

[fathom fossil]

idk though

[spark walrus]

not project

[blazing echo]

you can click on the shuriken looking image if you turn gizmos on, copy and paste the particle and attach it to the gun 😓

[spark walrus]

i didnt know that? dude i almost have 0 experience of redoing it to another model otherwise i wouldnt be asking you it 😐

[spark walrus]

thanks anyways

[blazing echo]

dude what 😓 i just gave you help.. d1 crashout in avatar help

[spark walrus]

i said thanks? your acting like i should be knowing this stuff

[fathom fossil]

ok did eye thing still in ground

[blazing echo]

😭

[spark walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-sad-sad-cat-cat-meme-gif-12058012318069999477

[lone flax]

How do I make a subfolder for my toggles on my avatar?

(I use Vrcfury)

[soft coral]

I have an avatar using parent constraints for weapons and they keep switching going back into the holstered position whenever I activate the "Hit" toggle, which only has one object it's using which shouldn't affect the parent constraint

(for example when I make a fist it will play the animation like it's supposed to, but it will also go onto my back instead of staying in my hand)

[spark walrus]

I know how to but this texture is setup weridly

[soft coral]

probably an overlay image, just overlay it in a program like GIMP

[cinder flicker]

are there any shaders with more than one outline pass?

[ripe tide]

Oh boi new avatar upload test...seems fine when moving around and when stationary- OH GOD VRCHAT WHAT THE HECK

assistance plz

It works just fine in unity

[ripe tide]

Anyone?

[clear delta]

Oki! Well I'm using a generic avatar and thie 2 layers exist! Will be using that combo!

[indigo compass]

Uh, just giving you a warning that I've seen generic (assuming we are talking rigs) avatars break world scripting before, I really don't recommend using it, humanoid is the standard.

[spark walrus]

why do my avis not show up in avatar worlds?

[indigo compass]

You mean avatar search worlds?

[spark walrus]

yes

[ripe tide]

Spine is still twisting for some reason

[indigo compass]

Because avatar search worlds are a hack and don't know of every single public avatar, avatars have to be submitted to them or scraped, the original databases seem pretty scraped.

[spark walrus]

omg

[spark walrus]

how?

[indigo compass]

I donno, if they allow you to submit avatars then there will probably be some info about it in the world

[ripe tide]

Works fine in Unity Testing, Doesn't twist when avatar is moving around in VRC, only when its standing still

[spark walrus]

how do i find my avius?

[ripe tide]

There's no animations affecting the Humanoid bones....not that they should anyways

[indigo compass]

Have you tried gesture manager (is in VCC by default I think) in Unity, it emulates how an avatar works more directly?

[ripe tide]

yes thats what im using

[spark walrus]

how to make my avis visibnle in avatar search worlds?

i need instructions\

[indigo compass]

I gave you the best instructions I had, check the worlds you want your avatars to appear in for instructions.

As said, avatar search worlds are a hack.

[spark walrus]

dm's ?

[indigo compass]

They have no global databse of every public avatar.

[indigo compass]

I am really not sure, not similar to any issue I've encountered.
I can only guess that it is non-standard in some way, too many bones spine bones or something.
That the animations work mean that the humanoid rig is probably correctly setup.

[ripe tide]

Can't get it to replicate the twisting issue, It works as it should In unity with it

This bone structure is pretty weird though....

[indigo compass]

Yeah, normally all the normal humanoid bones should be green and connected with each other.

The hip is missing here entirely

[ripe tide]

Spine1 apparently isnt a child of Hip bone

but rather of some waist bone

[indigo compass]

Is the waist bone parented to the hip bone then?

If it is then just move the bones up a step, spine2 becomes "upper chest" and etc, might work.

[indigo compass]

. . yeah, that'll require blender work.

[ripe tide]

Oh

[indigo compass]

I can't tell the shapes of the bones, but you'd probably want t

no

The children of hips should be children of waist

[ripe tide]

One sec

[soft coral]

that won't be neccessary

[spark walrus]

its showing this

[spark walrus]

it was showing this

[soft coral]

what you brought was an overlay texture

you put it over the base texture

in gimp

or photoshop

or paint even

@spark walrus

[indigo compass]

I can't help guide you through what you'd need to do in Blender, but basically start by merging waist and hips.
The lower extra leg bones shouldn't be there, but they might not be causing issues, I am not used to other kinds of rigs.

[ripe tide]

Alright

[clear delta]

This guy is relatively simple and is of a decent size so if he does start breaking worlds, I will switch to the dummy rig

[regal brook]

is there a way to make a parent/rotation constraint, only constraint one axis?

[ripe tide]

Merged the waist and hip bone and properly parented the bones In blender annnd its still doing it

[ripe tide]

Hmm now that I look at this more....It does look like the avatar is standing on its toes when the spine twists...like the avatar is being lifted too high for some reason

[junior void]

You could try unmapping the toes from the rig

[spark walrus]

is anyone using the easyquestswitch tool?

for me there is only 'convert avi for android' tool

i cant find for quest

[ripe tide]

Quest is android

[junior void]

O.o

[spark walrus]

so they updated it

[ripe tide]

No Quest Uses Android, It always has

[spark walrus]

i get error

oh i see

is this a problem

?

i have to remove physbones?

[cinder flicker]

how do you make the eyes through the hair more transparent with liltoon? i followed the directions in the documentation but it gives the same result as without the extra hair material.

[ripe tide]

Yeah that didnt fix it

[junior void]

If you use vrcfury, it has a blendshape optimizer component so itll remove those and other unused blendshapes if theyre not animated

Pretty useful

[junior void]

Was just an idea. No clue then

[coral egret]

Ive had this same issue

[spark walrus]

howe do i see myh dm settings fort this sererver?

what does 'avatar validation failed ' mean?

do i have to click htis?

[somber sequoia]

just only lock one axis, leave the others unlocked

[regal brook]

i tried to do that but it still didnt work properly, the bone wouldnt go the right was

[somber sequoia]

bone wouldn't what?

[zenith pewter]

Anyone else having a problem with favoriting their avatars?

[somber sequoia]

I've done this a few times, it seems to work fine for me

(Luna, not Hollow, sorry)

[zenith pewter]

It's like I'd favorite one, and it wouldn't show up in the favorites list, and when I'd try to unfavorite one it would still be there

[night ember]

restart your game

[regal brook]

wouldnt go the right way

[somber sequoia]

also depending on whether you have local orientation checked or not, the axes might not be the ones you think

[spark walrus]

should I click this?

set texture...

[somber meadow]

it's forced for Android anyway in the SDK, so yes

[cinder flicker]

for accessories like cat ears, is it better to build into the model or have separate?

[twin raft]

doesnt really matter?

are you planning on toggling it

merge it and use the same material and itll be slightly more optimized

[spark walrus]

how do i fix this?

[cinder flicker]

yes

[somber sequoia]

I tend to put as much I can into the model so it's fewer draw calls, fewer objects

[spark walrus]

how do I size this down>?

[cinder flicker]

then it should probably be fine, i only have 37k tris

[twin raft]

then leave it seperate

[cinder flicker]

ok cool 👍

[twin raft]

unless its the same material as the hair in which case merge it and use tile discarding

[spark walrus]

help

wtih quest

[night ember]

gonna state your issue or?

[spark walrus]

this

[spark walrus]

this

[night ember]

use less material slots and meshes
fix your bounding box
use less particle systems
use only 1 animator

[spark walrus]

i would like a help: so basically what happens is that my gun when i equip it it plays all the particles at once without sound but only when i equip it when i try to press the button to shoot it doesnt shoot

does anyone know why

[spark walrus]

what does this mean>?

[spark walrus]

u mean me?

less material slots?:

how?:

Like when I enable the gun it automatically triggers the shooting animation why?
And in shooting tab seems all well connected too is there something I'm missing?

[cursive pawn]

hello!

ive been working on an avatar and wanted to test constraints to prevent clipping with things such as skirts or long coats, however whenever i use constraints, the physics sort of stutter around rather than flowing smoothly as intended

is there a fix for this? im not sure if im doing something wrong or if its just physbones and constraints conflicting 😓

[spark walrus]

Do I have to create a new animation for shooting my weapon instead of using the existing ones I had on the other 2 guns?

[zenith pewter]

It's still not working right

[night ember]

you cant exactly constrain physbones

[cursive pawn]

could you elaborate?

[night ember]

physbones dont take constraints into account

[cursive pawn]

so how are people making skirts move with constraints without issue? 😓

[night ember]

dont use physbones ig?

🤷‍♂️

[cursive pawn]

huh..

welp

i was using the airbee skirt tutorial as a reference so im not sure if its just the vrchat constraints being the issue or something

[zealous sail]

Hey, so sometimes I make and upload an avatar and then I take it back into blender and change/add some things but every time I do this I end up having to upload the updated thing as a new different avatar and I can't just update what I already have. Is there any way for me to not have to do this? Idk if this makes sense. But it's annoying making a new avatar and telling people okay unsave the old one save this new one instead

[cursive pawn]

seems like throughout your process you're somehow removing the blueprint id from the avatar

you can get the ids on the vrchat website or from your content manager

[zealous sail]

Ah is it a component I have to move over to the new one or something?

[cursive pawn]

and when you press "copy id" you can paste it into your pipeline manager

[zealous sail]

I see thank you

[cursive pawn]

np :3

if youre getting the id through the vrchat website, the end of the link to your avatar has the id (for example ill use one of my avatars, itd be avtr_ad3c303d-5912-4e89-8fdb-f4f2518e998c)

[winter sun]

compressed everything for quest but it still says it's too big no matter what i do

[cursive pawn]

could i see how you compressed your textures?

im guessing the textures are the main issue here

[winter sun]

it let for me my last project

body is at 1024 as it should be and everything else is 128

[cursive pawn]

did you crunch compress the textures at all

[left gull]

you could always use thry's avatar performance tool to see whats taking up the most space

[cold plinth]

nothing wrong with my performance for pc uploading but avatar failing to validate

[left gull]

are there any other RED errors then the ones shown?

[cold plinth]

just those 6

[left gull]

then what do the 3 yellow ones say?

[winter sun]

they are crunch compressed at 60

[cursive pawn]

a possible reason it isnt counting them as compressed is you have "override for android" enabled

i remember having to do that for my avatars

[winter sun]

ive always overridden for quest and never had any issues

well until now

[cursive pawn]

if you override for android, it overrides your crunch compression

[left gull]

hm do you have a FX attached to the model without a Parameter/with a incorrect Parameter list?

or any animations in your layer that requires a parameter that you may have deleted?

[cold plinth]

no all default layers

er rather 0 custom playable layer or expresion

[winter sun]

yea but any other time ive overriden it allowed to upload

[cold plinth]

oh i figured it out, seems VRCFury was stopping for some reason

[left gull]

haha i was just about to ask if you use modularavatar or vrcfury for stuff

it was the 3rd error in your first screenshot i was stuck up on :P

[winter sun]

disabled it and still wont upload

[zenith pewter]

How do I reset my vrchat account

I mean like reset my favourite avatars

Because it's something wrong with the listing

[spark walrus]

where's metallic?

[cursive pawn]

what quality did you set your crunch compression to?

[somber sequoia]

you really just refuse to read documentation, huh.
https://www.poiyomi.com/shading/reflections-and-specular#metallic

[cursive pawn]

also, having the compression level at 60 wont make the biggest difference. setting the level to 25 doesnt make much of a visual difference but cuts down the texture size significantly

[spark walrus]

this doesnt tell u where it is

[somber sequoia]

sure does, that whole site is organized in order just like the shader options are

[winter sun]

Always been on normal

[cursive pawn]

i believe its under reflections & specular. i could be wrong as i dont use poiyomi regularly but i think thats where it is

[spark walrus]

to find it u have like to read the entire doc

even thought u only need 1 specific info

[somber sequoia]

points at the search box?

[hybrid jacinth]

yo, can anyone help me out with something, im tryna upload avis for the first time and im getting some errors in unity, not sure how to fix ir or what im doing too much just following a yt video, any help would be greatly appreciated

[cursive pawn]

what are the errors?

[hybrid jacinth]

lemme take a ss

[wintry hatch]

eye tracking isnt working it worked fine b4 sundenly its not in vrc and it works fine in quest home and calabrated corectly

[hybrid jacinth]

so all the errors are for eye tracking? how do i get rid of the errors?

[wintry hatch]

no i was asking for help

[hybrid jacinth]

oh my bad

[spark walrus]

how do u make metal glow?

[wintry hatch]

if you using poiyomi the mat cap layer should have an emission slider

[spark walrus]

okay

[cinder flicker]

i'm getting this error:

Can't generate normals for blendshape 'AA' on mesh 'body', mesh has no smoothing groups.```
how can i fix this within blender without sacrificing my normals/vectors on export?

[ionic osprey]

im new to uploading in vrchat and im getting this error. Anyway to help?

[timber wharf]

thats generic stuff happening every time, clear - try to upload again - post the upmost red error(s) in the console

[sweet crypt]

Does anyone know of a video tutorials that shows you how to make outfit presets without a radial puppet

[timber wharf]

why without tho, radial puppet is goated

anything with more than 3 options should be puppeted

[spark walrus]

why am I still getting shader error?

[cursive pawn]

mb i got a bit distracted. it looks like gesturemanager is whats causing the error. that or its av3emulator?

[spark walrus]

I alreadyu switched to vr mobile shader

[left gull]

those always mean that theres materials somewhere on the body that isnt actually changed, it might be something small that you cant see/isnt turned on (just go through each meshes material dropdown and check that all your shaders are correct)

[sweet crypt]

Okay but I still don’t know how to make outfit presets 🥲

[ionic osprey]

I have these two

[spark walrus]

meterials in the prefab

[left gull]

honestly you should just make different avatars for each outfit its way better optimization wise

[spark walrus]

how do I find where these materials are?

jump to their location

[left gull]

you'd just drag the new material into materials slots (they should show up if you open this section up)

it should also give you the option to jump to where each material is located though the one using "standard" in your picture likely is a built-in material and needs a new one added onto it

[sweet crypt]

I can’t make animations?

[left gull]

i mean you can im just suggesting you make a new avatar for each outfit for both performance gameplay wise and for the performance ranking of the model

you really only ever need one outfit per avatar, its not like you'd be wearing all of them at the same time

[ionic osprey]

well these are the upmost errors I found

[sweet crypt]

True but idk is it just Copying the avatar multiple times on the heiarchy? And if it’s on diff avatars how do I make the presets for it to show on one @left gull

[spark walrus]

i fixed it

file too big

[left gull]

you're gonna need to do a bit of optimization (merging materials and bones, and lowering texture size)

[spark walrus]

in unity pls

[left gull]

i dont know of a way to do the first two things in unity but the lowering of texture size can be done like this: (credits to liindy)

[left gull]

kinda it'd be you taking the model back to blender and making each outfit its own .fbx then setting it up how you normally would for a model, to make it show on one you should use radial toggles as its a easier setup/cleaner imo but if you're opposed to that then you'd could do bool toggles though i dont have a video on-hand that'd walk you through that

theres quite a few out there that do basic bool setups though you could do stuff with parameter drivers where it'll turn off the other outfit when your switching to your new one

[spark walrus]

fyes that fixed it

can I always go back to the original sizeA?

[hazy pike]

Made a blendshape to hide the arms when I put a jacket on, and now the rim lighting and shading is messed up... how can I fix this? it looks like this in game too

[left gull]

yes it should be able to go back to its original file size w/o issue though it wont upload if its at that original size (and i really do suggest fixing the bone and material slot count as that is a unreasonable number for a android model)

[spark walrus]

before in another project i used easyquestswitch, and even thoughj I changed image size it didnt do anyhting for me

[robust vapor]

question? using vrfury i was about to make the clothes right? how do i like make sure i wont be able to toggle the clothes off? for example i have different clothing right and i can toggle to each one of them but once i toggle all of it off I'm defaulted to the normal outfit the avatar has. How do i do that?

[broken bone]

Click "Options", and choose "This is exclusive off state"

[spark walrus]

why does it say any platform here but not on thje thumbnail?

[robust vapor]

thank you t v t

[left gull]

did you already have the game open when you were uploading? if you did you might need to re-start your game for it to show up

[spark walrus]

I DID A mistake

i think maybe not, dunno

something weird

i cant switch into my avi

@left gull

ity says u changed

but it didnt load anything

[blissful saddle]

Am I able to find the body base name for an avatar I bought in their unity files and the creator says they don’t remember which one they used when I asked them personally 🤔

[spark walrus]

i think i got it working

Do I always have to delete the scene, if I switch to quest ?

i watcherd a tutoriakl it told me to delete scene, and make new scene for quest

[hybrid jacinth]

yea, i got a friend that just helped me, it was av3emulator i just disabled it and im gud now, thankqqq

[twin raft]

no?

[spark walrus]

then what>?

how to deactivate scene 1?

using easyquestswityfch

[twin raft]

why do you need to?

scenes are just for organization

has no impact on that

[spark walrus]

OKAYU

OKAY

so i can just deactivate 1 mode

and use easyswitch to convert?

and it will onyol effect the mode lthat is active?

[dark jay]

How do i prevent the front of the hair to clip into the shirt too much

Lmk

[left gull]

if it uses phybones you could mess with colliders on the chest and possibly shoulders

[dark jay]

Would it be better for full body tho

I have one in the head

I’ll probably have one on both the shoulders then and make it small but not to small

And then ill redo the render ill have to do it during the daytime tho

[dark jay]

Any tips tho

[left gull]

having it on the head just stops it from clipping into the head (and maybe neck depending on how big you make it) honestly just the chest would likely be better then only shoulders i only suggest shoulders if the chest collider isnt getting all of the areas you need

[dark jay]

I know it only does it for the head and alright ill try the chest

[spark walrus]

but if i convert to rebuild to android wont the pc version not also be effected>

?

v

[dark jay]

I dont want it too big tho due to the back hair

[gilded ocean]

anyone know the name of the hair on this manuka?

[dark jay]

I thought shoulder colliders would be better so it doesnt touch the back hair

[wind skiff]

in what way?

[spark walrus]

idk changing stuff

is better if it only converts the quest verison

[left gull]

you're able to change the location of the collider so you'd be able to pull the chest one forward enough that it wont mess up the hair either in the back or front while preventing the hair from clipping but you should try messing around with both options to see what works better

[left gull]

ask in #1138520828556890214

[gilded ocean]

ok

[twin raft]

just duplicate it if youre worried

[spark walrus]

to where?

[cinder flicker]

how do people add animal ears as a blendshape without the bones not being synced?

[ornate stump]

Blendshape should be used for only minor adjustment. If you wanted to move longer distance then you'd need to actually use bones.

[cinder flicker]

ah, so i need to make an animation file for when it goes in and out of the head?

[ornate stump]

You'd need animation file for anything avatar related though.

[cinder flicker]

i mean specifically for that

[ornate stump]

Of course yes.

[spark walrus]

I have a qeustion

if u make ur avi public, and someone clones u, and then u make it private again. ANd then a day later public agaiun, will he access to the avatar>?

[ornate stump]

Public means allowing anyon to access your avatar. So given they had hold onto your avatar, they should be able to use your avatar anytime it's public.

[spark walrus]

okok

[proud cobalt]

Okay, so, I wanted to change the idle crouching pose for this avatar I'm tryna tweak, and I managed it, everything works great but now the expressions are messed up and I tried to back up all the way but they're STILL messed up like in the pic below, and I don't understand what broke them.

Why's it doing that 😭

[plucky wren]

Question also - I've changed up the clothes recently on my avatar, and I adjusted the primary body masses to original size 'see image 1', where everything appears to be in order and lined up with the clothing as it should be.
But for some reason, in VRC there appears to be a cut-off point where the hips are fully reduced back in so there is a cut-off 'see image 2', for no reason I can really discern.
Why does it display it functioning in Unity but not work in VRC?

[dry briar]

Whats the rules on NSFW exactly for VRChat? Will featureless boobs be counted as nudity?

[ocean vault]

my freind told me the way he got dyanmic bones was by paying for a software/plugin is their a way to get them for free on your avatar?

[cinder flicker]

two questions:
how can i test grabbing physbones in play mode? i have collision radius on.
how do i reset the pose in play mode back to the original pose from the humanoid "crouching" pose? i used gesture manager and i can't revert it with pumkin's pose reset tool.

[junior void]

Dynamic bones is crazy outdated and were replace by physbones which are way better performance wise and included in the SDK, so free. Theres no sane reason to be using dynamic bones

[ocean vault]

oh well it was becuase we have been following this tutorial from 2019

😭

he helped me optimize the avi in blender and the atlas messed up and turned everything on the model low res idk

[junior void]

How is that connected to dynamic bones whatsoever

Anyway, an atlased texture needs more space to have proper resolution

You should have a look at the texture's size

[ocean vault]

the atlas is 8192x4096

also i was just asking if their was a free solution and you answered so i asked a new question

it has nothing to do with the bones

just another issue

[junior void]

Fair enough. Was just a really fast jump there

[twin raft]

nope

[twin raft]

game window, left click

[fleet cloak]

what does it mean when unity tells me "avatar validation failed"

[spark walrus]

😭

[compact pelican]

I optimized my avatar to the very best but it still won't let me select Android as the build option in the SDK

[junior void]

select quest or upload as quest

[compact pelican]

see

[junior void]

restart unity, this is not normal

[compact pelican]

it's been doing it

[junior void]

Getting anything in the console?

[compact pelican]

Nope

[subtle hearth]

Tried everything even took out the toggles and everything

[junior void]

Any updates available? SDK Base, Avatar, Hub, addons you use etc

[compact pelican]

I added like VRCFury and GoLoco

[subtle sigil]

How would i make an animation to a bone that has physbones

I want to make a tail wag anination but also be physbone

[left wharf]

do you have Android Build Support in Unity?

[junior void]

Just tick "is animated" in the physbone

[ornate stump]

Enable "Is Animate" on physbone.

[compact pelican]

I believe so, if not where would I find that

[subtle sigil]

Ohh alright, didnt see that One, thanks guys!

[left wharf]

Open UnityHub, click installed tab, click gear mark and Add Modules.

[left wharf]

like this

[compact pelican]

I believe it is because my unity hub isn't updated one second!

It won't update to the newest 3.9.1

And theres no gear icon

It's 3 dots like . . .

[left wharf]

(I say again) I think Android Build Support is not installed. I tried switch to Android but I got one error "Switching to Android:AndroidPlayer is disabled". And it is probably shown in your console. (How did I find this? The reason is that Unity errors also appear at the bottom of the window.)

[left wharf]

what is 3.9.1? sdk latest version is 3.7.2 and unity version is 2022.3.22f1.

And theres no gear icon
Are you really opening UnityHub? it's not in VCC.

[left wharf]

ic 3.9.1 is UnityHub version.

[compact pelican]

Yeah but it won't update thats my problem

[left wharf]

OK so... you said "theres no gear icon". so please show me the screenshot about that.

[compact pelican]

Your projects have it on the side, mine don't

And I can't add modules

I see the issue

Had to get rid of the pop up 😭

I am so sorry for the trouble

[drifting temple]

I have a 16x16 pixel art texture that doesn't look right when compressed, yet vrchat doesn't let me upload it without compression. any way to fix that?

[left wharf]

so.. solved for now?

[unique cloud]

trying to make animations for eye tracking, I was wanting to use bone animations for the eyes/eyelids since the default eyelook uses those and it would be by far the easiest way to handle it, but when i say, put the X rotation at -17 for looking up and hit preview animation, it sets it to 0.001 instead and the eyes don't actually rotate in the preview.

[compact pelican]

Nope still can

Can't switch it

[left wharf]

did you do this?

[compact pelican]

Yeah

[left wharf]

so you have installed Android Build Support, right?

[compact pelican]

Yeah

[left wharf]

sooooo... is there any errors in console? still same error?

[unique cloud]

Ok I found it, rather than trying to animate the bone I had to find the animator parameter for eye up/down and in/out!

[unreal pasture]

is it still possible to put seats on avatars

[somber sequoia]

yes!

[unreal pasture]

how

[somber sequoia]

iirc you have to have them enabled by default for 2-3 animation frames

[unreal pasture]

sendf tut pls

[somber sequoia]

I don't have one, sorry

[finite river]

Anyone know how to delete this weird physbone that wont go away? I did something and it wont go away now 😦 I deleted the VRC Phys Bone for it and tried to make a new one, but it seems that it is sticking to something and I have no idea what it is

[somber sequoia]

seems like there's still a physbone component there. You'd have to find it - might be able to click on it directly, maybe have to search

[finite river]

Do you know the tool to directly click on that particular physbone?

[shrewd stirrup]

So I'm doing a stand toggle and I have the normal idle and a float forward and float back animation for walking how do i implement this to work on an avatar in the stand's animation controller

[somber sequoia]

other than your mouse, nope. You might try clicking a few times in that area if it selects something else first

[finite river]

Aw I thought there would be a way to figure it out

[fallow fiber]

i used vrcfury for adding material swap toggles but when i converted the avi for quest, i toggle it and get this magenta color instead, anyone know how to help?

[somber sequoia]

definitely a broken material, you'd have to look at it in the inspector

[junior void]

pc shader on mobile viewer

[wispy spear]

I usually just switch it to a different shader then switch it back and reload sdk

[ionic osprey]

anyone know anything about these errors?

[somber sequoia]

if those aren't the first 4, paste the first (top) 4 instead

[ionic osprey]

this is what I got after clearing the console

idk how to fix stuff like this bc im pretty new to it

[somber sequoia]

if those are the only two, it's not clear what the problem is unfortunately

[ionic osprey]

theres these two, but i pretty sure it might not help

[somber sequoia]

again, would you please post the very first (at the top) 3-4 messages, ideally without clipping the message so we can't see relevant details?

[proud cobalt]

Bumpin this since it got buried and I've yet to figure it out.

[hasty grail]

im so lost, i exported my controllers from avatar A and put them on avatar B but on avatart B poses are broken

[neat elk]

Hello! I am trying to add extra facial animations to my already "dynamic expressions" asset and it has a custom facial feature section but I have no clue how to add boughten blendshapes?

[copper carbon]

for some reason my view is going the opposite direction of the head when rotated but when moved it follows fine

just tested a little and it seems to be following the origin point at an offset

[rancid patrol]

Is it recommended to make a new scene when uploading a variant of an avatar from the same project, or should I just detach the blueprint ID?

[somber sequoia]

I usually don't if it's like a one-off, but if it's different enough, I will make a new scene

[rancid patrol]

I'm swapping out a major component of the avatar for something else, but want to retain the same edits I've done for everything else

would that be considered different enough?

[somber sequoia]

probably?

amusingly I have two in the same scene I'm working on right now

[rancid patrol]

hmmm, gotcha

[cinder flicker]

i already tried that

[green mason]

Question about animations with physbones:

is there a way to do an animation then get it to stay in that one spot until it’s toggled off?

[somber sequoia]

disable the physbone component, then position it

[green mason]

Alright thank you!

[somber sequoia]

(in the physbone, you might want to check "reset when disabled" - or not, depends on what you're going for)

[copper carbon]

can someone help?

[twin raft]

pretty sure that’s normal within unity

[copper carbon]

wym?

[twin raft]

the ball not moving with the avatar

[copper carbon]

its moving with the avatar

rotation is weird

[twin raft]

so does that also happen ingame,,?

[copper carbon]

havent uploaded yet

[twin raft]

so it’s not a problem

[copper carbon]

but it could be at some point, no?

[twin raft]

report back if it’s a problem ingame

[gritty geyser]

havign issues with uploading a reskin of an avatar. (for Quest) I dont know how to fix them. Ive deatched the blueprint ID thingie since the avi creator told me to, but they havnt responded so idk where else to go ;[

[somber sequoia]

see how it says there are 8 errors in the console? Show those, ideally the first few.

[gritty geyser]

oop didnt realized i had not all of em on my bad-

[somber sequoia]

"missing script" - find what thing your avatar requires that you didn't install

[gritty geyser]

ITS BEEN FIXED TYSM- it was the vrcfury gogoloco thingie which idm not having bc i can just hook up my fbt.

[somber sequoia]

easy stuff 🙂

[obtuse vapor]

I'm trying to replace an existing body model with a newer one with additions but each time I do it looks like the mesh has been smoothed to heck, is there something I'm doing wrong?

Nevermind, fixed it. Just had to apply FBX Unit scale.

[hasty grail]

Q; how can I see where an animation clip is used?

[somber sequoia]

hmmm without extra tools you could probably grep the animators for the clip's UUID, but that might be advanced

[copper carbon]

the SDK wont switch my build target to android for some reason
i press confirm then it just ... doesnt switch

any ideas why?

[prisma sedge]

Is there an error in the console about android being disabled?

[copper carbon]

"Switching to Android:AndroidPlayer is disabled"

what do i do???

[junior void]

Install android support

[copper carbon]

thanks :3

[supple needle]

Does anyone know why the asset is all the way up there and the move box thingy is so low

Currently trying to add it to the face but it’s super hard with the movey thing all the way down there

[heavy mortar]

anyone have any idea why it says my avatar has 4 mats instead of just 2?? theres only 2 in the assets folder but ive applied a mat to the body, the arms and legs, the outline, and the crowbar object i had the character hold (which adds up to four)
is it counting each application of the materials as a seperate material???

im using vrchat toonlit shaders because i want it to be quest compatible but this bug is keepnig me from that

[arctic ginkgo]

that's 4 material slots

think of it like this, material slots are places in a cubby where something can go, materials are what go in the cubby

the reason material slots are counted and not materials is because what impacts performance are "draw calls". This is when the GPU is called to render something. Every individual material slot or mesh creates a new draw call and reduces performance

so even if you're using the same material, it still has to do multiple draw calls

[heavy mortar]

thank you for the explanation, i think i mightve figured out the problem

[arctic ginkgo]

having different materials only degrades perf rank based on total file size, compressed and uncompressed, and texture size/texture memory size

the script itself can contribute to filesize (rarely makes a difference, doesn't really make a difference on quest) and the texture can take up significant amounts of size

[heavy mortar]

checking the blender file, i realied it was using 4 different materials (2 that i forgot to delete)

[arctic ginkgo]

idk if that's it, if it has the material slots in the blend file but nothing is assigned to it then they won't be in the FBX in unity

you told me you counted 4 separate material slots, the body, arms + legs, outline, and crowbar

[heavy mortar]

the body + arms/legs are combined now

[arctic ginkgo]

if those are on separate meshes then you'll need to join them

[heavy mortar]

now its down to 3

[arctic ginkgo]

if you're using only 2 materials then you can combine any of the meshes that are using the same mateirals

[heavy mortar]

is having a toggable item impossible to make quest compatible ?

[arctic ginkgo]

no?

[heavy mortar]

hmmm, i see

[arctic ginkgo]

you can have seperate meshes, use bones, or blendshapes

[heavy mortar]

i have 2 materials on the main character (the body + the outline)
even though im using the same material on the crowbar as the body, its counting it separately because its a separate object, which makes it 3 materials
and i dont think that youre allowed to use more than 3 in a quest compatible avatar, i think

[arctic ginkgo]

you can have as many as you want

it'll just not be a good perf rank

but i encourage you to optimize

in any case if you use the bone or blendshape scaling method then you can have your toggleable items on the same mesh as your body

[heavy mortar]

you might be right there

let me look into that

thank you

[arctic ginkgo]

i do this a ton, i'm a questie that makes avis (i have over 150 of them) so lmk if you have any other questions about quest avis

my PC is good enough for making avis, not good enough for PCVR

[supple needle]

Bumping this

[somber sequoia]

insufficient information, the pic doesn't show how you joined these things. So how did you join things?

[supple needle]

I have no idea what that means. I imported the asset before- had to delete it as I messed up on the whole avatar so had to restart. Reimported the asset and now it’s wonky to move

I want to add the piercings to the face but the box being so low makes it hard. It wasn’t that way before

[somber sequoia]

without knowing how "the asset" is setup it's hard to offer much - does it have an armature? is it a VRC Fury prefab? Where did you put it?

[supple needle]

It has an armature. I don’t think it’s a vrcfury prefab. I put it on the head first but had to delete the whole avatar and such/reimported everything so now it’s not attached to anything

[left wharf]

If you are using MacOS or Linux, you need to install a module “Windows Build Support (Mono)” from UnityHub.
If you are using windows, I have no idea…

[vale basalt]

is there any way to make objects w/ colliders interact with another player's physbones?

or is it entirely limited to the colliders defined by the descriptor

[arctic ginkgo]

only the finger and hand colliders unfortunately

[cinder frost]

Is there a way to lock a specific axis with a constraint?

I want my avatar's legs to only rotate on the X axis and have all other rotations locked

[vale basalt]

dang. any chance that'd change in the future?

[night ember]

no

[vale basalt]

is there any way to better aline the coliders defined by the descriptor?

or are they always 0rd in on the finger armature

(as you can see in the srnshts my finger armature isnt aligned)

[night ember]

not without modifying the sdk

[vale basalt]

assuming thats a no no

[night ember]

there are some adjusting in the avatar descriptor but its ehhh

[vale basalt]

yeah size and length essentially

the YAML configuration shows some transforms

am i allowed to mess around w/ those?

might be able to copy the transforms from the custom ones i made earlier b4 i realized the limitations

[dry briar]

I assume it actually becomes a problem if you actually show nips/vagina/cock in public rooms?

[cinder flicker]

is this how people normally make blendshapes to hide the inside of the body so it doesn't clip?

[twin raft]

yup

[somber sequoia]

sure, just click the checkbox for the axis you want to lock, leave the rest unchecked.

[spark walrus]

can i put in other useful packages here:?

[vale basalt]

doesnt look like these adjust the position

[dry briar]

Like this would be ok? The naughty bits are toggleable

[timber wharf]

stylised stuff is perfectly fine

[odd garnet]

having some animator layering confusion, trying to make 2 toggles that can change my eye material but only one seems to work at a time, if i change the layering though they seem to switch which one works

[frail badger]

trying to make a seat on an avatar and i cant seem to toggle it off, i got some animations set up and my toggle menu seems set up correctly

[timber wharf]

@odd garnet if layers animate the same property lower one takes priority. if you need x options you use one layer with many animations.

[frail badger]

any ideas? i got a feeling it's the fact that im animating with a copy of the model so it's toggling on the copy but not on the original

[odd garnet]

ah i see, thank you :)

[timber wharf]

@frail badger to avoid using copies use gesture manager or av3emulator, both should save you from biker pose and allow safely animate on main

*from getting stuck in one at least

[frail badger]

if i add that in now, will all my current toggles and whatnot transfer over?

if not, duly noted for next time

[timber wharf]

nah you can add it anytime, its just playmode emulators to test toggles etc, it doesnt modify anything in avatar

[frail badger]

oh alright

[fallen cobalt]

Is there anywhere I could find some sort of tutorial that covers adding material adjustments to the gesture menu?

I've done most of the steps from what I can tell, but I'm trying to configure the blend trees and kinda not sure what to do

I feel like I'm mostly there, just trying to figure out how to make the animation clip respond to the change in the animator's variables

or... is that top right thing actually doing that and I didn't get it?

[timber wharf]

@fallen cobalt my guess its Direct blend tree optimisation, because animators are actually slow and heavy af so its a complex way to reduce the amount of layers thus making it faster. https://vrc.school/docs/Other/DBT-Combining/

[frail badger]

so within gesturemanager, debug toggling the thing works but my toggle doesnt, and i have no idea why

[arctic ginkgo]

You can change the size and position in the descriptor

[timber wharf]

@frail badger show animator, layers, keyframes ig

[arctic ginkgo]

Some of them you can change rotation I believe

[frail badger]

wait i might be him

[vale basalt]

I can see options for the size and length. how do you repos?

[vale basalt]

fingers only have radius and hight (length)

[somber sequoia]

hmm can you change those if you put the avatar descriptor into debug mode ?

[pallid mauve]

I've swapped the head from one model to the body of another. I want to use the blend shapes from the head on the new complete model, but the entire head move during the blend shape. Is there a way to remove the translation of the head, but still keep the finer detail EX: mouth open.

[somber sequoia]

if that's what happens when you change the blendshape itself, not some animation, then you'd need to fix that in Blender

[arctic ginkgo]

oh sorry i think i just misremembered

[pallid mauve]

Yeah I've got it in blender.

[bitter furnace]

I recently got an avatar and there is a cane that came with it. I understand how to get the cane in my hand and also how to toggle it. But for the life of me I have no idea how to get the hand closing animation to work with it.

[vale basalt]

first time im hearing ab a debug mode

[somber sequoia]

oh I missed that it was already blender. I'd probably check to be sure the object's origin is set reasonably, then watch what vertices move in the shape key. You might have to redo that, or maybe select parts you don't want moving and do vertex -> blend from shape, setting them back to what 'basis' has

[somber sequoia]

3 dots menu, upper right of the inspector, you can select "debug" there. It's not pretty though.

[somber sequoia]

no no, upper right of the whole inspector, not just that one component

(this is a Unity thing and so it's documented here, about half-way down: https://docs.unity3d.com/2022.3/Documentation/Manual/InspectorOptions.html )

[pallid mauve]

I've done some looking into what you said. My origin has stayed the same and the position is also the same between the two.

One additional piece of information is if I change 2 or more Shape Keys to 1 then it will continue moving back.

[somber sequoia]

really not sure what more to say without really looking at it, but there's not really any magic here, shape keys don't really store translation information as such, just vertex positions

[pallid mauve]

I'd be fine with getting you on a call and showing you my screen if that's something you are comfortable with.

[somber sequoia]

not really something I do for free, sorry

[pallid mauve]

Understood. Thanks for your time though.

[green prawn]

I was able to uploud in past (which was few years back) and am a green user but some reason i can't uploud my avi's now I get this error

[bitter furnace]

Ok let me rephase my original statement. Figured out how to add the toggle and the animation. But when I run it my character drops in the ground to his waist and the animation doesn't play. Also not sure how to add the cane toggle to it.

[night ember]

the bike pose is the default reference pose unity uses

also what do you mean when you run it

[vale basalt]

seems to be the same values i found in the YAML. they dont seem to have any effect.

going to try changing the transform object

[oblique fable]

ignore the floating piercings but i just wanted to know if there was a way to keep the fangs permanently on the avi or so I just keep the value at 1?

[bitter furnace]

Run it as in testing it in VRChat. Even testing it in the animation window caused my avatar to drop into the floor. Even the test dummy avatar does it so I think the animation might be bugged.

[night ember]

well no the dropping into floor in the bike pose is the default state of animations in unity
hand animations are entirely handled in gesture layer

which you just use an animator tracking control component on an animation to disable hand tracking and only hand tracking

[bitter furnace]

Interesting

[night ember]

however if you arent using index knuckles or finger tracking in some other way you can just have a transition animation for that hand specifically that uses the hand close animation or whatever you want to call it

[somber sequoia]

ahh too bad, I was hoping that'd work

[bitter furnace]

I am using finger tracking so I might just close my hand while using it.

Better than trying to shoehorn an animation into it. When I have more time I might mess with it.

[somber sequoia]

is this a shape key you're referring to? yes - you can select the "basis" shapekey, select whatever vertices/faces/etc. you want, then in the menu, vertex -> apply from shape, and select the fangs shape key, and how much to apply it.
This will permanently make it default, so make backups, etc.

[bitter furnace]

It would only be used while holding the cane so no big. And since I ahve a plague doctor mask on it wont mess with my expresions. lol

[oblique fable]

i remember a way to do it that would make it permanent instead of making it for every shape key without doing every single shape key if that makes sense. Its like default that the fangs are there if that makes sense

[vale basalt]

illl update when i try changing the transform objs

[rocky pollen]

Can anyone help me u wanna learn how to upload avis to my account and I don't know how too.

[somber sequoia]

that's why you apply it to Basis , all the other shapekeys are based on this one

[somber sequoia]

start here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSwMz4WcajQ

[oblique fable]

i think i understand

[vale basalt]

looks like changes made in debug mode arent saved

[somber sequoia]

depends on the thing, but often they are so long as you don't mess with them in normal mode

[night ember]

thats not shaking the screen

thats moving the model

also hes in play mode in unity

[ocean vault]

why does when i preview anything on my avatar the sleeve of my shirt does this?

ive tried all the other ones ive made in vroid too and it has this issue

[somber sequoia]

Are the clothes and face the same mesh object? Probably stray vertices moving along with that blendshape.

[ocean vault]

how do i fix it?

[somber sequoia]

bring it into blender and remove those vertices from the shape key

(basically reset them back to Basis)

[ocean vault]

also do you know if i put my view camera behind my hair will i see my hair?

[somber sequoia]

By default everything that's a child of the Head bone is hidden from your view

[ocean vault]

ok thank you

[somber sequoia]

almost certainly hair would be then

[night ember]

cylinders?

[somber sequoia]

if you mean the gizmos that show the size, you can toggle gizmos with the upper-right icon in scene mode, but you don't get them in the game view

yep, quite possibly!

[stable igloo]

My model is stuck like this in play mode, how do I fix it?

[night ember]

dont have an animation controller in your animator

[ocean vault]

why does when i preview my eyes it winks?

it wasnt doing this before

[modest oxide]

I need help with MMD set up if anyone knows how please Let me know! I have all the characters needed for lipsync I belive. But I am not sure what to do other than that. I try it out and it doesn't work in game. I am confused.

[ocean vault]

what?

wait..

bruh lmao

should i ingore this or how do i fix this?

[modest oxide]

Is this the proper way to set up MMD onto my avatar? If anyone knows please help I've been asking for months on different discord servers.

[ornate stump]

No. Do not add MMD blendshapes to avatar descriptor. Just make sure that your model face is named Body and have MMD compatible blendshapes usually is enough.

[ocean vault]

i cant figure out how to fix it is their like a video tutorial or something?

i cant find anything called lower leg

their is only upper what

[modest oxide]

I have changed them back to the original. And it worked for a second almost. However I tried a second time and the face no longer animated properly. Could there be something else wrong?

[modest oxide]

The model face is named body as well. The body includes the entire body of the avatar plus the face.

[ornate stump]

There is also FX layer convention where your face animation has to be at layer 1 and 2 of FX layer(start from base layer 0). And the FX controller must use Write Defaults for animation states.

This might be different for each MMD world. This one works for iyMMD.

[spark walrus]

qwhat is this?

weight 1?

[modest oxide]

I am testing on IyMMD

[spark walrus]

what ios weight?

how Do I deactivate Layers?

in fx files

[ornate stump]

Weight determine how effective the animation in that layer should be apply. Weight 0 deactivate the layer.

[spark walrus]

ok

[modest oxide]

Is this correct? I went and checked Right Default for all of the states. If this is correct I have tested it a couple times and there has been no change.

[ornate stump]

What the Lipsync layer do?

[modest oxide]

This is what the lipsync layer has within it

[ornate stump]

Why would you need it when you're using avatar defined lipsync already?

Also there must be no MMD blendshape animation in any layer other than layer 1 and 2.

[restive bronze]

So I can't see my own particles unless I'm looking in a mirror

Basically I made a particle that shoots a lightning beam. In game, I cannot see the beam fire UNLESS I'm looking at a mirror. I can only see the beam in the mirror.

I have no idae what I'm doing wrong

[ornate stump]

Which object is the particle system attached to?

[restive bronze]

The head

[ornate stump]

The head got scaled to zero when in first person view, efffectively make particle scale to zero. So try using head chop component to make particle scale normal.

[spark walrus]

my hhandgestures arent workiing

[gilded perch]

anyone know how i can get my old seemingly unsupported avatar to work in the newest sdk? I bought it back in 2021, whenever i try to follow the instructions on how to upgrade my projects, all my shaders break. would getting 2022 versions of those shaders get it to work?

[spark walrus]

not working

[ornate stump]

Animation controlling hands must be in Gesture layer.

[spark walrus]

they are

it says hand left

[ornate stump]

Your controller you shown is name FX.

[spark walrus]

yes it is

[ornate stump]

Then it isn't Gesture layer.

[spark walrus]

what do u mean with Gesture layer?

by

[ornate stump]

Do you know 5 playable layers called: Base, Additive, Gesture, Action, and FX?

[spark walrus]

I watched tutorial, he put it in FX layer

[wintry summit]

Anyone have some fixes to this error code?

[ornate stump]

Each playable layer has its own animator controller, we called those controller by the name of playable it belongs to. That mean FX layer, is a animator controller for FX playable layer, Gesture layer is animator controller for Gesture playable layer, and so on.

And the name of controller is FX which suggest that the animator you're editing for Gesture layer.

The name Hand Left/Right commonly are from when people duplicate the Gesture layer to repurpose it to be used as FX layer for face animation.

[spark walrus]

so it is for face only?

but his file is also called fx

same as in tutorial

[ornate stump]

Are you watching tutorial to make facial expression?

[spark walrus]

yes but, his hand moved

so i was animiating face not hands

?

[ornate stump]

Because hand moved by default gesture layer and you don't have customize it.

[spark walrus]

no my hands r dead

only fav e moves

face

gonna watch that hand gestures video then I come back

[ornate stump]

Also make sure that you removed all the layer mask from FX layer

[spark walrus]

yes

w hat r the maskls for?

i inserted it and it's still not working

[latent fossil]

Someone know what is happening? im new in this and i do all with VRCFury

[modest oxide]

I got it to work finally! Thank you for your help!

[spark walrus]

coudlnt fix the hand gestures

i set them to default vrc gestures, still not working

[ornate stump]

How is the playable layer assignment look like?

[ornate stump]

Also can you confirm that the hands are rigged and working?

[spark walrus]

they are

but

this guy has left hadn right hand in his FX

[ornate stump]

That's for face expression.

[spark walrus]

ah

[ornate stump]

Face expression being control by left and and right hand.

[spark walrus]

hands should work

if set to default

vrc gestures

the error must be somewhere in his layer

[ornate stump]

I told you to remove layer mask.

[spark walrus]

true

I reupload

it works

thx

the masks were the issue

these masks say do ignore this file

i guess

like the file set in that slot

[dry briar]

Does anyone know how to remove this from the radial menu? I'm not really looking to use this feature on my avatar. (Yes I have the Unity project for it but I can't seem to find it in the project)

[fallow fiber]

there's some bits of hair that seem to be detached when i try to move the bones in pose mode.. can someone help ?

[spark walrus]

try removing it from here

double click, remove toggle

might have to remove it from here too

[ocean vault]

guys i just did the FX for my avatars gesturs but im having this weird issue where the hand i did it on cant move his hand open or do a thumbs up anymore

im so confused

[somber sequoia]

Find whatever menu file that is and remove it. You can usually start from the main one in your avatar descriptor

[ocean vault]

here is the FX

basically when i try to do a thumbs up with my left hand it does the face, but it doesnt actually do the gesture and instead does this weird claw looking gesture

i have no idea how to fix it

[somber sequoia]

do you not have conditions on those transitions?

[ocean vault]

what?

[dry briar]

I...somehow deleted it by gettting rid of a toe puppet...

shrugs

[somber sequoia]

you know, a condition to check when a transition between states is made

[ocean vault]

the tutorial guy never told me to

i dont think so

[somber sequoia]

so from AnyState to any of those other transitions, you need to define conditions, or none of that works

usually if you're talking gestures, you'll use the GestureLeft and GestureRight variables

[ocean vault]

are you talking about this?

[somber sequoia]

no, the bottom part, "list is empty"

[ocean vault]

oh ok

well how do i fix that

[somber sequoia]

put in appropriate conditions

such as GestureLeft = 1 for left fist

[ocean vault]

is it this

[somber sequoia]

sure

[ocean vault]

only gestures i have are on my left hand and its open hand, nuetral(idle), thumbs up

and im getting the claw

could this be the issue

i think i see the claw in the preview

yeah he never went over transitions

this is what everything equals in conditions on left hand

it goes 0-7 up to down

[somber sequoia]

I usually label the states (fist, open, etc) with the numbers because otherwise I have to look them up every time

[ocean vault]

wdym states?

[somber sequoia]

those blocks are animation states

[ocean vault]

ok

how do you label them?

[somber sequoia]

1-fist and 2-open and such

[ocean vault]

ok but why do i need to label them

[somber sequoia]

oh you mean how do you do it - click one, in the inspector at the top you can change the name

you don't

I do because I forget the numbers.

[ocean vault]

why will i need to remember the numbers

[somber sequoia]

dunno, I find myself editing these from time to time

[ocean vault]

ok, but how do i make it so i can open my hand and thumb again without the claw happening?

[somber sequoia]

I'm guessing you have some incorrect transition conditions, but that's only a guess without inspecting them all

[ocean vault]

i told you what numbers i had them equal

also what are correct transition conditions becuase i never knew these existed

[somber sequoia]

the correct ones are the ones that make it work the way you want it to

[ocean vault]

so how do i fix it?

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what the problem is, so I have no idea

I'd probably use gesture manager or lyuma's emulator and watch what happens in the animator while in play mode

[ocean vault]

^

[somber sequoia]

yes I know you've said that but without actually looking at your project I've no way of knowing how it's setup

[ocean vault]

like the hand poses are messed up

well i have it set up exactly like this but with less animations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUb6eTtBQw8&t=176s 3:24

[somber sequoia]

FYI hand poses should happen in the Gesture animator, are you working there or FX?

[ocean vault]

im working in FX like the guy told me to

[somber sequoia]

that's not where gestures happen

[ocean vault]

my freind said he used this guy and it worked so idk

[somber sequoia]

that's where hand-gesture-caused other animations like facial expressions using blendshapes happen

hand gestures that do bone animations happen in the gesture animator

[ocean vault]

basically i added the facial expressions and it caused the claw to happen

ever sense i did what he told me to do

the facial expressions work, but the hand pose is messed up when i do the gesture to make the facial expression

[ornate stump]

You have to remove all the layer mask in FX layer.

[somber sequoia]

ugh, did I miss that?

ah I did, I didn't click the images larger

[ocean vault]

do you know where that is?

[ornate stump]

I didn't look at the images, but that's the only reason for FX layer to cause claw hand.

[ornate stump]

Do you see the "M" in layer list?

[somber sequoia]

little gear for each layer in your animator

next to that 'M', yes

[ocean vault]

so i delete this

[somber sequoia]

yes

[ocean vault]

do i do it for all 3 of the layers

or just the hand i have the gestures on (thats having the issue)

[somber sequoia]

unless you already know exactly why you need a mask in FX, you don't, so remove them all

[ocean vault]

ok thank you

[spark walrus]

what is ge4stureleftweight>?

[ornate stump]

It indicates how much controller grip is pressed.

[spark walrus]

oh

[ornate stump]

Although you should also do self research https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/

[spark walrus]

and read this all???

[ornate stump]

I read it all. No excuse.

[spark walrus]

i dont understand it

[ornate stump]

Keep reading until you understand. And do some experiment.

[spark walrus]

no fun learning like that

then i quit for sure

[ornate stump]

Many questions you asked were available in the document. The document hold extensive details of avatar aspect.

Because understanding fundamental concept can push you much further in your skill rather than relying on asking other people for simple questions.

[spark walrus]

i dont undrerstand this

ok i read the entire thing

enough reading for today

that was hell

[spark walrus]

.

[neat elk]

How do I get all my blendshapes to be here?

i dont even know if i am doing this right, currently trying to copy blendshapes over into a dynamic expression animator?

[junior void]

You hit record and then just change blendshape values

[neat elk]

I have a thing where I can copy and paste blendshapes but it wont let me for some reason?

[oblique fable]

How does one make a blinking animation? The viseme is already there for blinking of course but how do I make it an animation I guess? I want my avatar to idley blink

[ornate stump]

Adding "/" slash organizes the parameter name into submenu. You could also try it yourself.

[spark walrus]

ok i iknow

whats what i wanted to know

bnut would have t osee it in game

what if u dont add / ?

u only add it if toggles get too manyh i think

Renfrew can I see ur avis?

@ornate stump

[ornate stump]

As the document states it doesn't change how the parameter behave. It's only for organization.

It's GroupName/ParamName.

[fallow fiber]

so im converting this avi for quest but when i check the gesture manager to test if the toggles work fine it says theres no avatar descriptor when there already is.. can someone help?

[ornate stump]

So you see parameter get put into submenu GroupName when selecting for condition.

[neat elk]

No skin mesh menu???

[spark walrus]

ok

[ornate stump]

Because avatar root doesn't have skinned mesh.

[neat elk]

how would i go about putting that on? is it an easy fix?

[junior void]

the avatar root is not supposed to have it

[neat elk]

oh..

[junior void]

body/face are skinned meshes

[ornate stump]

You're misunderstanding something. There shouldn't be skinned mesh on the avatat root. You likely have to see the children object.

[ornate stump]

My pfp is one of my avatar. And also my youtube channel.

[neat elk]

I am trying to change the blendshapes ive boughten for the avatar

[junior void]

those are animations

[neat elk]

ohhh

i see...

[ornate stump]

You'd have to replace those animation in FX controller.

[neat elk]

[neat elk]

is there a video or something for this? just to walk me through this is completely new to me

[spark walrus]

i see

[fallow fiber]

😭

[ornate stump]

https://youtu.be/UU9NFJz2qls?t=83 your avatar already have FX layer for face setup in the same way, so watch and see similarity. What you need to do is replacing animation in Motion slot.

[neat elk]

ugh thank you so much!!!

[warped scroll]

Can I get some help with this? For some reason Sparkles doesn't do anything when I bring this into gesture manager, but SparklesConstant does just fine. I animate both of these by toggling the emission tab.

[spark walrus]

how do people put clothing on in unity:"?

dotn they need to add weighting:?

[junior void]

They get assets that have their own armature and therefore weights and use vrcf armature link to merge the two armatures so the clothing sticks to the base

[ocean vault]

for some reason all of my animations only rubber band the first second of the animation

[spark walrus]

ah

[ocean vault]

well ima fix this tomorrow im going to go to bed

[lone flax]

Hey uh, how do I make a shield toggle on my avatar. I know how to add the toggle but idk what bone to stick it to

any thoughts?

[junior void]

Where will it be located? Take that bone

[lone flax]

Lower arm but it doesn't move right idk

[summer root]

I currently have a very strange issue with my avatar and Idk if anyone will be able to help but

For some reason after my avatar is compiled/uploaded certain gestures, physbones and contacts either don't work, are missing, or don't work properly, but whenever I sit in a seat it fixes itself for some reason, till I switch avatars or change worlds

I've been trying to fix this for WEEKS and am still at zero progress

[cursive elbow]

whats the best version for blender for creating stuff for vrchat

[summer root]

i dont think it matters

[cursive elbow]

theres plugins

and plugins sometimes needs a specific version

[summer root]

probably best to use 3.5

[cursive elbow]

kk ty

[cursive elbow]

ty what about plugins

[summer root]

no clue, i dont use blender

best to read the descriptions

[lone flax]

How to I make a texture toggle?

[summer root]

i could ask the same thing brother

[left gull]

wdym by texture toggle? as in a material/texture swap?

[spark walrus]

how do u make animal on 4 leg walk animation for vrchat?

[somber sequoia]

lots of work and rotation constraints and FinalIK

[spark walrus]

mmmm

😦 work

can u not simply download a walk animation and add it?

[ornate stump]

You'd need an animation made specificcally for the model. You can't use any randomly downloaded animation.

[spark walrus]

why not?

[ornate stump]

Bone names have to match. Transformation has to be correct. Exactly for the model.

[spark walrus]

u can put any animation on any animal with 4 legs

[ornate stump]

I say again: Bone names have to match. Transformation has to be correct. Exactly for the model.

[spark walrus]

this doesnt make sense

[ornate stump]

Because generic animation doesn't have standard bones so there isn't auto animation retarget.

[spark walrus]

4 walking animals all have same bones

should be no different

[ornate stump]

I'd say that's false. Cat and horse animation have slightly different skeleton. So bone movements are different too.

[spark walrus]

these are different animals

different way of walking

[ornate stump]

You said that.

[spark walrus]

but u can make a horse walk like a cat if u use a cat anime

but my point is, u can download cat animation for ur cat

[ornate stump]

I didn't. I'm saying bone structure between cat and horse are different, so they can't share animation.

[spark walrus]

where do i get animal animations from?

[ornate stump]

You have to get animation that specifically made for the model.

[spark walrus]

just a cat animation

[ornate stump]

As I said before, generic rig doesn't have standard set of bone, so there is no standard animation that can be used across model, like humanoid.

[spark walrus]

u have to assign I guess?

but any animation works

[left gull]

most animations work for models because they're generally humanoid rigs a 4 legged model cannot be a working humanoid rig which means they cant use presetup animations

its not a matter of assigning stuff itd be needing to either remake your rig entirely for that single animation (which would be janky) or re-making the animation yourself

[ornate stump]

Bone structure, isn't real bone structure. It's bone armature for rigging which made by different artist and they might create different set of bone for animation. Therefore, animation made from different model, can't be used in other model if artist made bone differently.

Instead of keep arguing, I'd suggest you to try it yourself if you really believed it works.

[lone flax]

yea

[proper bone]

So, I'm trying to upload an avatar and Its missing mono scirpts. how do I fix that?

[spark walrus]

why is there no tutorial oin tihis??

I want 4 leg animal to walk like animal

[somber sequoia]

install whatever prerequisite you missed, or delete the script components

[sturdy comet]

tried making custom animations for my avatar but i got this.

for context, this is how it supposed to look like on the right

[somber sequoia]

pic on the left is Unity's default animation position

[spark walrus]

how do i extract thgese things?

it wont let me extract

[proper bone]

how would i find the componets

sorry for the miss spelling

[somber sequoia]

you'll have to search through the objects in the hierarchy

[arctic ginkgo]

if you try really hard you probably can, best way i can think of is to download the animation as an fbx, then in blender manually edit the armature to have the correct amount of bones and correct names, then transfer the animation data from this armature to your armature, although if there are extreme differences in the positioning of the bones it'll probably look weird, so try and match the positions of things pretty well

idk it won't be perfect but that's probably the best you can get

[livid rapids]

Ive had very slow progress because the rig in unity of my avatar has this "armature" bone that just ruins the mesh. Blender wise the model looks fine. What should I do?

[green prawn]

I was able to uploud in past (which was few years back) and am a green user but some reason i can't uploud my avi's now can somoene help

[somber sequoia]

I see no error

[green prawn]

i meant i can't uploud my avi's

[lone flax]

Are you able to help?