i swear there was an extreme perf ranking...
#quest-general
cloud shard
main cedar
There never was. The only performance ranks that always persisted are "Excellent", "Good", "Medium", "Poor", "Very Poor"
barren trellis
Can anyone tell me a good world i should visit I’m new and not all worlds seem to be comparable with the quest
obsidian zealot
There are no poor or very poor avatars. Just this robot avatar everyone loves
blazing sparrow
there are poor avatars.
old agate
Anyone know any worlds where I can find a concentrated amount of Quest Users?
lusty vector
Great Pug: West is usually a good hangout place for mostly Quest users
old agate
Thanks dudio, will be sure to check it out when I get on my Quest next!
haughty coyote
Any quest users down to play vrc later?
dusk bison
Ever since audio was removed I really haven’t been playing vrchat that much. It just doesn’t feel anywhere near as fun anymore
woeful cypress
If that's all what vrchat was about for you then... i guess. 
dusk bison
No it was more, it was the friends and good times but audio just made it much more immersive
I’m not saying it’s not fun anymore it’s just not as fun as it used to be
The quests avatar creators pushed the limit much further than people thought they could and it was fine. Now the devs are forcefully pulling the limit back even though nothing went wrong. I talked with ruuubuck about the whole audio issue quite a bit a few days back, and it seems the main reason was because voices count as audio sources, and since audio cracking happens at about 17 people, they decided not to add it. That’s given the audio source on each player is playing constantly. Realistically there was usually only one person playing audio at a time.
dusk bison
I decided to play a bit of this game on my laptop and even in pc only worlds there’s usually only about one audio source on an avatar playing at a time
old agate
Sorry I'm new, what is audio in this context?
woeful cypress
A few users are a bit frustrated by the "fixing" of audio sources. (Workarounds prevented so not functional anymore)
Which means their avatar's can't play audio files anymore, although it was not supposed to be used before either.
The frustration is ofc a bit understandable. 
woeful cypress
👍
old agate
Eyy, welcome to the family
warm quiver
its time to d-d-d-d-d-duel
old agate
If you need anyone to play with on VRchat, DM me!
dusk bison
I know audio was never officially supported, so we should’ve seen it coming sooner or later. But after seeing it run completely fine we wondered that just maybe it would be officially supported.
warm quiver
thank you
austere island
woeful cypress
If you got as far as that ^ agressively harming other peoples experiences over something that was neither supported not is crucial then i dunno...
woeful cypress
You where the one talking about immersion earlier wheren't you.
woeful cypress
Because now you're actively harming other peoples immersion by protesting against something that was never supported.
Unless a giant wall of text on a black background above your head is immersive for you?
Canny is the right place to raise ideas and make requests, not by annoying other users within the game. 
dusk bison
I haven’t seen it annoying anyone
And for the immersion thing: there’s obviously no perfect immersion. Audio is just a step in the right direction. And can you send me a link to the canny?
woeful cypress
dusk bison
I noticed that there are lots of great requests with lots of upvotes but most of the ones that are actually done only have a couple of upvotes. It’s very specifically handpicked and not to mention I didn’t see a single quest request.
So the request would be completely drowned out, and if they did see it, they’d brush over it since there isn’t a visible high demand
woeful cypress
Dont get me wrong, talking about things is important within reason.
And yeah there is a lot of things there that might have a lot of upvotes and seem overlooked, but sometimes they are either (like with the audio) from a technical view not in for a good reason, or there simply hasn't been the right time yet to implement things as others things have priority.
old agate
I'm sure it'll get in eventually, they just need to optimize it.
woeful cypress
It's also okay to talk about thinks outside of canny, but going ahead and anoying users in game with your view on the sittuation by active protesting with things like the giant mesasge above the head isn't the right way.
In that case you hurt users in a way that you feel the "removal" hurts you.
Which just isn't right.
dusk bison
It’s not giant as it’s a particle so it gets smaller as you walk towards it to avoid being annoying. Also where is your record of it annoying people?
I’ve never seen anyone annoyed by it before, they usually just agree.
woeful cypress
Within which circle? Your friend circle?
There is always 2 sides of a story.
And i did already mention, it's very out of place in terms of any immersion which is the thing that you argument with for pro audio source.
dusk bison
immersion wasn’t my main argument, like I said before it’s just a step in the right direction.
Also I completely agree with how there are two sides to each story, hence why I want proof of it annoying people.
And quite frankly spreading the message with a small picture on an avatar is (unfortunately) the only way to make a change.
I probably should’ve mentioned this earlier but a lot of the avatars that have that photo on them also have the option to disable the picture.
If you know of any ways (that actually work) that can get the message across and give the devs the well needed visible high demand please let me know.
woeful cypress
I mean, the team personally responded to you in here with a few things and why things are how they are.
And you are not to blame if you didn't have issues before, but a lot of others did have crashing issues and where more affected by the side affects.
Experiencing of the issues can greatly vary from your personal playstyle, how you engage in the game and many factors.
And there has been many complains of crashes here which have greatly died down since.
That's like the thing, there is always 2 sides of a story, and the side that feels suppressed will be the loud one. (obviously)
dusk bison
The crashing was fixed, then a few days after audio was removed. I think since they were in such a close time frame the two events were blurred together.
And no one feels suppressed, we just feel it’s right to have it back, given how it very clearly ran fine. That photo wouldn’t have gotten anywhere if people didn’t agree with it so heavily
All I want to say is
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The photo is in no way annoying, as it gets smaller as you approach it, and usually has an option to disable it.
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It’s only spreading because people agree.
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I did extensive testing for days with it because I, too, was worried about how it would effect performance.
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People are worried about audio crackling because of too many audio sources, but that’s given all of the audio sources are active, and on top of that you can turn off audio sources in safety
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I care about performance just as much as you guys do, and it can run fine, I wasted too much time trying to prove that it couldn’t to argue more. I’m going to bed, goodnight.
faint ibex
hi
old agate
Hello Juicer! How goes the juicing?
night crater
good
frank coral
Any recommend that which VR headset should I buy?
old agate
It depends really, can your PC run VR?
frank coral
Yes VRchat. but don't have VR headset and controller.
There alot brand for VR headset.
old agate
Run the Valve VR test application first, it's 100% free. It will make sure your PC can run VR correctly :)
frank coral
Oh but i don't have VR headset and controller?
haughty coyote
you don't need it to run the VR test application. its only testing your GPU and other stuff.
@frank coral
frank coral
ah. good thing i didn;t download it.
haughty coyote
but if you wanna see if your PC can run VR, use it.
haughty coyote
run the VR test application.
frank coral
without equipment?
haughty coyote
yes.
frank coral
alright.
I research which VR i should buy. it is between Oculus Quest or Oculus Rift.
main cedar
You have a good PC it seems like, you need to go for Oculus Rift
Quest is a mobile headset, mostly in case you don't have a PC
So you want to go with Rift instead
main cedar
Oculus Rift is not getting sold by Oculus anymore officially and Rift S is supposed to be like a newer and better version of it
frank coral
ah.
grand oyster
Hey
obsidian zealot
Actually Oculus is selling the older Rift now at a discounted price, 299
But still, go for the Rift S
Higher resolution is well worth the extra 100
Quest is only for if you don’t have a pc or want to use VR without a Pc
It’s a console, effectively
It’s great, but not needed if you have a good pc, which you do
dry pulsar
anyone experience a flickering issue?
elder pecan
haughty coyote
hi
lusty vector
hi
haughty coyote
Can anyone recommend a decent Quest optimized avatar world? I'm having trouble finding an ava I like until I get my Link cable.
haughty coyote
Thanks! I'll go look there now.
old agate
Anybody down to play with me and my desktop friend later?
grave flicker
Do you guys think that you should be able to hold more than 16 favorite avatars
somber heart
everyone thinks that i believe
tawdry wyvern
no
narrow rune
is there a way to make it so that i dont do a peace sign everytime i walk?
drifting pebble
Does anyone know any good quest friendly avatar worlds
haughty coyote
@narrow rune keep your fingers resting on the trigger and grip button. The controllers can sense if you're just touching them or not. It is sensing that your thumb is down on the thumbstick, and fingers are up, so it thinks you're doing peace irl.
cloud shard
I actually have the opposite, I keep doing the rock symbol by accident for that exact reason XD
I keep pulling out a knife each time I use the menu
haughty coyote
Rock and roll is thumb on the stick, trigger pulled, grip button off or touching
That's just more with how the avatar was made. Not much you can do about that one
cloud shard
Yeah but where I rest my thumb on the buttons/stick and then drag with the trigger it triggers that gesture every time
Kinda entertaining, but because most avatars use that as a special “emote” it can do some entertaining things by accident
I end up consciously lifting my thumb up
haughty coyote
Yeah. Happens a lot with avatars designed for Vive
Curious how much better it will be wotn the new avatars 3.0 animation system
obsidian zealot
I wanna like, make a fist, to have a pie menu open, twist hand until it's pointing to the prop I want, then stop making fist to select it
or just dupe how Alyx does it, that one was also nice
haughty coyote
will the 2ed quest or (Quest 2) have support for pc avaters sense it has the power of the og rift
blazing sparrow
No. The og rift has no power. That comes from the pc
And the avatars still have to be built for android
And it might not even have the power of a gaming pc capable of running the rift
solar iris
The "new" Quest that's speculated about seems to be only battery, controller and comfort upgrade so don't expect miracles.
cloud shard
No from what I heard that new one also has a beefed processor
blazing sparrow
yeh
haughty coyote
It's not a huge leap in performance lol
jagged trench
from what I've heard it is also targeting a higher frame-rate so the extra power can't go to pretty graphics
solar iris
It's purely speculation anyway, Facebook didn't show any specs aside from hinting at 90Hz refresh rate
sonic knoll
Heyo. Haven't talked here much since maybe a couple weeks ago when an update seemed to make VRC basically unplayable on Quest. I'm hoping they've fixed it by now?
cloud shard
All I know is the things already said and also the processor is better
Doesn’t mean it’ll be more powerful, but it’ll be doing something
Pokirby it doesn’t really crash now, but it’s laggier and no audio now
haughty coyote
If the new quest is actually designed with a direct link for PC capability rather than the current oculus link system, that will be a game changer
cloud shard
I think I remember something about link but I don’t remember
Seeing as the goal is to keep cross compatibility too
haughty coyote
Yeah I just mean how the current quest running oculus link is streaming over wire, which works, but adds a slight latency. It's the reason I still prefer rift S. But if the new quest with the new processor is able to run on a PC more directly, and also at 90hz. I may switch back to quest
cloud shard
So how does the rift do it differently then?
haughty coyote
The rift S is directly connected to your computer GPU. It's a solid connection and your computer runs everything, allowing for quick data transfer and the computer to have full control. The quest over link renders things on your GPU, but then compresses the video, sends the data over the wire to the quest where it's onboard processor unpacks the information and uses that
It just adds extra steps that could be avoided with a direct connection
cloud shard
Ah I see
So for rift it’s GPU -> link -> show
And for quest it’s GPU -> pack -> link -> unpack -> show
?
haughty coyote
Basically
cloud shard
So it does that because it doesn’t have a direct connection?
haughty coyote
Yeah. Since the quest wasn't originally designed to be used on a PC, the PC and quest are two seperate computers that are communicating with eachother, where as other VR headsets are just a peripheral
cloud shard
Yeah makes sense. Iirc the link was added after the quest was released, so I guess if this new one is being made with link in mind it’ll be much smoother
cloud shard
It’s a very nice device
I think they’re changing the strap too, which is nice because one thing I will say about the quest is while I prefer it to the “halo” it does get a little heavy on the face
grave flicker
Well I use the quest and it never gets heavy on my face, but it always leaves 3 lines in my hair
haughty coyote
Hi
austere island
Never gets heavy XD
I have to you counter weight or lose balance and fall on my face XD
It's Soo front heavy it's not funny they could just split the electronic and put something to the back too like battery or something it's really stupid design flaw.
lusty vector
It is front heavy but it doesn’t bother me much
grave flicker
When I wear my quest it never gets heavy probably because I’m usually either slamming a table or sitting down leaning on a table
old agate
So literally all the new quest is, is basiclly the upgraded switch. Better battery, different display, and a better processor
haughty coyote
It's not even that heavy
old agate
It's a decent weight. Feels really heavy after being on for 5+ hours imo
woeful cypress
@old agate well that is quite some changes to the quest 
old agate
Yeah yeah, they're great changes! Just nothing to go out and buy a new one for
woeful cypress
I dunno for a soc a processor change is quite a change and for quest can on its own be a nice upgrade
Ofc also a matter of price for the new one.
old agate
It'll just replace the current one is my guess.
blazing sparrow
not really, they'll still support the current one. And they're working on a way to get better performance from the quest.
Because upscaling.
cloud shard
For a casual user it’s not worth dropping everything for the new one, but if you play it more often or for YouTube or maybe you just want to see if lag is better then yeah the new one
haughty coyote
hey guys, Who knows how to launch vrchat and steam vr with quest. I purchased the oculus link but I see everytime the oculus menu. I have installed the steam vr and the game.
haughty coyote
You have the desktop oculus client as well?
crimson current
Quest-compatible events later this month, great for those who missed out on VKET: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRbJ4qkn3AQ
Short short version:
- 256FES
- Cross Market
obsidian zealot
Oof. Max avatars set to medium. And normal safety preset... quest client is still a stuttering laggy mess... and most worlds just kick you back home
dusk bison
Yeah I’ve stopped playing vrchat. Sometimes it just feels like they don’t know what they’re doing
dusk bison
@obsidian zealot When you say they set max avatars to medium did they actually go through with removing very poor avatars completely?
obsidian zealot
When I say max avatars set to medium I mean I set my client to auto-block anyone using a poor or very poor avatar using the option in the preferences menu
So it’s not bad avatars that are the reason for lag
Lots of micro freezes with looping audio
dusk bison
Oh, got it
I’m pretty sure no one on the team has a quest to test updates for it so oof. They just follow the oculus quest creators guidelines very very strictly, they could definitely be looser with it. Or at least buy a quest if they don’t have one for testing
woeful cypress
Definitely not everybody, but some people on the team do have a quest
dusk bison
That’s good, do they actually test the updates for the quest before releases?
haughty coyote
hi
tawdry wyvern
yes
old agate
My game crashes maybe every like, 30 minutes
dusk bison
So they really messed it up again?
crude nacelle
Hello i have a little question
More like looking for support
Where can i ask this?
indigo river
is this something a player can answer or?
Otherwise look in #vrchat-support and make a ticket I suppose.
grave flicker
My VRChat on quest is fine. It rarely ever crashes, and I frequently swap avatars (usually between 5k-30k polygons) and sometimes use a 173k poly avatar with normal frames. I only occasionally have tracking issues
haughty coyote
i'm getting ocuclus quest soon
alpine vigil
Nice
haughty coyote
mine coming tomorrow
crude nacelle
I m not sure if player can answer or not ether way here is my question
Lately there is something that have been bothering me a lot
I can't see my shoulders
I can see my insides
My hands disappearing in from of my face
This is really bothersome and i m looking for a way to fix it
dusk bison
@crude nacelle go to the nier automata flowers world. It’ll fix the clipping
I’d set it as your home so you don’t have to go their every time you play
Honestly I kinda thought after a couple of updates they would’ve fixed it since it’s been a known glitch for quite a while
obsidian zealot
I’m pretty sure no one on the team has a quest to test updates for it so oof. They just follow the oculus quest creators guidelines very very strictly, they could definitely be looser with it. Or at least buy a quest if they don’t have one for testing
I’m not sure where you are getting that info. Of course VRC has a quest.
@crude nacelle check your avatars scale as well. It might be too small.
crude nacelle
@obsidian zealot it happens with many avatars that i have
@dusk bison sure i'll try it this evening thank you
sonic knoll
Why does the NieR world fix clipping?
empty salmon
Any world that does not set a reference camera will use the settings from the previous world. Worlds can set the near clipping distance to be as low as 1 centimeter, so nier probably sets that
dusk bison
No idea
empty salmon
Do note, there's a downside of having a low clipping distance: it makes z fighting way way worse. If you're on quest, you've probably seen z fighting: it's when polygons and pixels flicker in things that are far away
Using 0.01 instead of the default could make z fighting 5 times worse or more. And the Quest uses a 16 bit depth buffer instead of 24 bits like on PC
(That means 64k possible depths on quest vs 16 million on PC... and most of them are now used up trying to let you see your hand in front of your face)
obsidian zealot
“Any world that does not set a reference camera will use the settings from the previous world.”
I assume this has been reported in canny already?! First I’ve heard of this behavior
lusty vector
still no luck with logging in without crashing, I've pretty much given up at this point
haughty coyote
Dunno what's wrong with your quest lol
lusty vector
me neither
again I don't think I have any other options than to wait for another update that will hopefully fix it
lusty vector
yes, what happens specifically is the little Logging in as hpenney2... panel disappears then my game freezes about 1 second later
it never unfreezes, I've waited up to 10-15 minutes before
alpine garnet
@lusty vector same thing happens to me
@lusty vector tried the new update in hopes that it would fix it. Even tried creating a new account thinking that was the cause but the same thing occurred.
lusty vector
damn
cloud shard
Honestly it sounds like a corrupt install but obviously not
Do you have even a bad laptop you can try playing on the desktop version with to see if it’s a connection issue?
lusty vector
I can use it with Oculus Link just fine
And the non-VR mode
As I’ve mentioned before I’ve even done a factory reset of my Quest to no avail
slim tide
vrchat wasn't working for me; i was going into games full of people, and when i go in it just said i was the only one in the game
so i uninstalled it hoping that i could reinstall it again, but now it won't let me download it
haughty coyote
Is there a point in the 128gb quest or is 64 more than enough
dusk bison
64
@haughty coyote
I’ve had my quest for a little over a year and 64 is plenty sufficient. I still have 20 gb left
haughty coyote
Okok thanks
lusty vector
mostly depends on how much you use it I guess, but I have the 64GB one and use it quite often without issues
although my library isn’t huge
plush anchor
boop
turbid parcel
Hey, I'm new to VR and VRchat in general. Just got my quest last week. Are there specific groups for quest users, or do you all find that you can usually go into high-population quest compatible worlds without frames dropping enough to make you sick?
haughty coyote
@turbid parcel new quest users usually hang around the pug or VRChat hub, populated places like The Black Cat will cause your frames to drop and your audio to crackle
Basically any detailed place with over 10 users in it will lag
turbid parcel
@haughty coyote thanks for the info! So is Quest VR chat best for private groups then? Seems like it would be nice to have "Quest only" worlds, since PCVR players have more options, and to encourage larger groups of Quest users to congregate in worlds where performance won't become too much of an issue
haughty coyote
@turbid parcel Pugs are fine, unless you're unfortunate enough to have a Quest User come in with a particle-beefed avatar. Buuut, yes, usually quest players have their own Private Groups they hang out with
turbid parcel
Awesome, thanks for the info @haughty coyote
spice gazelle
$w
gusty pike
Just got a quest recently. Did some VRchat for the first time but definitely am seeing some of the limitations. Gotta find other quest users so I know where I won’t crash or lag a ton haha
But otherwise it was super fun messing around and checking it out finally
humble copper
Unity hub wont let me add android to unity 2018.4.20 I think I did something wrong
haughty coyote
Y'all think you could fix the bug where it suddenly stops loading a world?
jolly thorn
Yo I can’t get on Vrchat, it’s stuck on the loading screen and won’t actually load plz help
everyone
@raven kayak
@round crypt
haughty coyote
You dont ping the team for that
jolly thorn
Yeah why not? I need help
blazing sparrow
they don't read this channel.
vestal sand
check ur internet
hasty vale
Highkey kinda sad cus I have a nice Joker P5 avatar I found and it's effects and everything are pc
Even the props that could be quest-friendly
obsidian zealot
I have the 128 gb and I am nowhere close to filling it half way. Unless you plan on loading movies on to it I would not worry about getting the 128 gb version. Most native quest apps are tiny
If you do plan on buying the entire quest catalog then you have the money for it anyway go for the bigger one
tired dome
Would here be the right place to ask for quest friendly world recommendations with a retro feel? Looking for a fun place to explore and hang out like an old school arcade or something along those lines. Wasn't having much luck finding very many options on my own.
obsidian zealot
FYI: Oculus just pushed an update that lets you use your charging cable as a link cable
assuming you have a USBC port on your computer of course
jolly thorn
@obsidian zealot can you use Oculus link with a Mac? I have a USBC port
obsidian zealot
I don't know the answer to that question specifically, however, I don't know any PC VR games that work on mac anyway.
jolly thorn
I do
obsidian zealot
I think the only blanket statement I could say with confidence is if you can play Rift S on it, you can play Quest Link on it.
jagged trench
jolly thorn
FUCK
obsidian zealot
I said this 20 years ago, maybe it's still true, "Apple computers aren't good for playing games"
tawdry swift
its still true 😔
sullen totem
Is the quest version of vrchat any good? Might try it since doing link with my pc doesn’t seem to work for br chat cause i need a better gpu i guess🤷🏻♂️
My fault for giving my rift to my brother lol
tawdry swift
if your GPU isnt good enough for the quest why would giving the rift away matter
sullen totem
I dont know i never had any lag issues when i used my rift before🤷🏻♂️
Trying to trick my brain into thinking its reasonable to spend money on a new gpu at the moment, think i’ve had my gtx970 since like 2014 or 2015
haughty coyote
Best horror game for quest?
grand cloak
Ayo! Looking for good quest world suggestions! Can be any type of world :)
haughty coyote
Does anyone ever have issues in VRchat running off the quest without being connected to a computer?
As far as avatars not loading or lag
spice sinew
Without being connected to a computer the quest has limited hardware, if an avatar isn’t made for quest they will show up a as a grey robot
@haughty coyote
grave flicker
Grey robot avatar with an image on the chest. If it says “Perf Blocked” you can click on them and manually unblock their avatar
bronze glade
if you want to get crashed that is
spice sinew
Even if u unblock an avatar if it’s not quest ready..... it will not show
Majority are not quest ready
bronze glade
@spice sinew but if someone uploads a quest avatar thats very poor rating. People wont see it by default and they have to enable it for each person manually
thats what perf blocked meanss
spice sinew
I’m well aware of the perf block system
@haughty coyote if models simply aren’t loading it could be a connection issue
eager pebble
can any quest users confirm if there are any horror maps for you guys to play? or one of the most popular ones
jolly thorn
@eager pebble I cant even play Vrchat at all and I’m on Quest
eager pebble
rip sorry to hear that, i could've swear they have improved vrchat for quest users awhile back
shrewd blade
Hello everyone I’m looking for people to play with cuz it’s boring alone
haughty coyote
Anyone wanna play vrchat?
weary wind
Quest users are getting Visual issues
west wigeon
Ok, does anyone know how to search for worlds?
haughty coyote
...open menu, worlds, search bar at the top right
haughty coyote
I could tell
brittle onyx
Hey
lusty vector
does VRC on Quest store a log?
and also, where is the cache stored?
probably sdcard\Android\data\com.vrchat.oculus.quest\cache?
but I can't find where the log is
lusty vector
im gonna go out an a limb and say maybe somehow something persisted through the factory reset? i'm reinstalling now, the infinite uninstall bug happened again but apparently you can just clear the Quest's little cache system and it fixes itself
so that first factory reset was entirely pointless
reinstall did not work
if there is a log file somewhere that would probably be helpful
@mention me if you know where it is please
at any time
digital sparrow
the guy who made the video of how to do full body tracking with kinect found a way to make the quest screen resolution higher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUPh0wPUT4w
https://gyazo.com/e4a899c3619888fbd7afc1febe6be402
before -> after
gotta love android.
woeful parrot
What map can you throw a chair on? like you can sit on the chair and throw the chair
somber anchor
Yikes
keen matrix
I know one
haughty coyote
Holy shit I upped the resolution
VRChat gets really crispy
Basically doubling your resolution
elder mortar
Any one wanna play???
grim totem
obsidian zealot
Just an FYI to those who have a quest and a computer, but not a link cable, the most recent quest update now allows you to play PC games on your computer using the charging cable that comes with the quest, no need to buy a separate cable anymore.
I tried it back to back with the link cable, and there is absolutely no difference in quality I could see So no point in buying it
pastel yoke
what type of cable is the charging cable that comes with the quest?
haughty coyote
USB C 2.0
I think this means they'll eventually be able to push a higher fidelity stream through the 3.1 link cable later on
But the stock charging cable works well as a baseline
pastel yoke
i'll just go with a usb 2 to 3 adapter
also
any charts for hand gestures on Oculus Touch?
gotta practice hand gestures when i get my quest
digital sparrow
i just bought some usb A to C 3.0 adapter wires that are like, 10 feet long
yes in fact, turbo
sec
"rock and roll" is sometimes middle finger
haughty coyote
digital sparrow
it's literally from that page, jamie XD
haughty coyote
Yeah, but the page explains a bit more too
pastel yoke
thanks!
i need to practice hand gestures when i'll be discussing with people on vr like pointing to someone when i agree to that person
digital sparrow
yeah, i point a lot
and have fun with the avatars with custom gestures
I have an akali avatar where when you do fist on left hand she goes POOF and becomes neon
pastel yoke
fun fact
i point to someone when i agree but since i play on desktop i point to my monitor lmao
digital sparrow
and right hand makes her neon + light daggers
pastel yoke
i am excited to be free from my keyboard and mouse
digital sparrow
in regular mode her fingertips have trails when i do peace or point, so i can draw/dance
that's what was going on at the beginning, the trails
pastel yoke
it seemed like you were having a seizure before transforming into neon mode
digital sparrow
It's a pretty cool avatar, since i love the video and song from beat saber XD
yeah that was the idea, like in bioshock
when you inject the first plasmid
digital sparrow
"steady now, your genetic code is being re-written! just hold on and everything will be fine!"
proceeds to fall off second floor balcony
pastel yoke
thats quite the scene
digital sparrow
bioshock and bioshock 2 are great pc g ames
if you ever see them on sale on steam, i highly suggest them
pastel yoke
im not really into bioshock but hey i guess its nice
digital sparrow
it's a good horror themed first person shooter
with a creepy sci-fi oldschool vibe
raven sky
solemn skiff
Anyone got the triangle meme guy as an avatar?
obsidian zealot
Challenge accepted
obsidian zealot
Rebuff Reality keeps pushing back my VRPower order by a month, at the end of every month.
:|
lusty vector
Ouch.
Anybody know if VRC on Quest makes an output log file?
solar iris
It should produce standard unity logs but not sure where in filesystem
Or you could try to pass arguments to specify logs path to the executable over ADB but I'm not sure if that works for Quest version of Android
solar iris
Should be Player.log
Otherwise see if logcat works for Quest, adb logcat if you have Android SDK installed (you likely do if you're here)
west wigeon
The halo world with vehicles is soooo cool but soooo nauseating
lusty vector
logcat seems to work, when do I need to run it exactly?
or i guess, how does it work?
solar iris
Logcat is sort of realtime logger, you run it while running application to get syatem logs
lusty vector
ahh I see
so I should start it then run VRChat?
and see if I can find anything helpful
solar iris
Yea, not sure how helpful it will be for your use case but just start adb, set up wireless connection, run logcat and run VRC, hope the logs output something useful
lusty vector
I see, hope it has something to tell me the issue
For reference, my issue is the game freezing indefinitely upon the Logging in as (username)... panel disappearing.
I think VRC stops logging after this point?
I don't know what the issue is still
Mmm wait
I don't know if this is related or not buttt
It's near all that
solar iris
Unrelated, that's network time daemon
lusty vector
Okay
solar iris
But it could mean there's problem with your connection
lusty vector
Oh alright
It has this so it might log somewhere?? I couldn't find anything yet though
Including a Player.log file
solar iris
Yeah, that's unity player log
haughty coyote
Does anyone want to play?
lusty vector
I mean I can't find a Player.log
solar iris
Did you try to do full search of Quest filesystem?
lusty vector
I'll try again for files with a .log extension, it's very slow for some reason.
Just searching through the logcat for everything that has "VRC" in it right now.
solar iris
I mean, it's possible Quest client outputs log to /dev/null which is horrible but then again, unexpandable flash memory storage
lusty vector
Doesn't appear to be anything for VRChat :/
All of these are for other games
So I guess it doesn’t make a log file or it is made in /dev/null as you said
solar iris
Well that's the best you get then, the retries and timeouts in log really make me think it might be networking problem
lusty vector
I doubt it, I can run VRChat fine on a PC which is strange
solar iris
Out of ideas then, sorry
lusty vector
Well, we’ll see if VRChat support has any useful information whenever I get an email back from them
shut sage
Does anyone know what was in the quest update?
warm quiver
Boys i found a quest that is in stock and affordable
Time to spend half of my money to get this but hell yeah boys i can become an anime girl in vrchatr
hehe
lusty vector
Update here, I got an email back and logging isn’t available on Quest for some reason.
Waiting on a reply back from them.
blazing sparrow
ok, sure but nobody really acknowledges this channel so you're kinda gonna be ignored.
I un-read the messages.
I saw, but i ignored.
lusty vector
...is 3 days that bad
blazing sparrow
3 days isn't that bad to be banned from something, try two months.
dusk bison
Bro 3days isn’t anything
grave stirrup
Does anyone deal with motion sickness from using the quest for too long?
quartz wadi
so Oculus Quest is worth it? you can play VR Chat right?
grave stirrup
@quartz wadi I mean its alright but personally I wish I would've got the rift instead. But the quest is fun and all. I try to play vr chat but for some reason my quest keeps freezing up after a bit from it
quartz wadi
oh ok i was thinking my birthday coming soon two month
blazing sparrow
Do the quest, because link now works with usb 2.0
So basically, the Quest is the rift s, but you can use it without a gaming pc.
haughty coyote
Well, it's still not quite the same as a rift S in many aspects. But good in it's own right
haughty coyote
i have a quest arriving in june
lusty vector
- why would you need 3 quests unless you’re doing some kind of party game
- people change pfps and usernames/nicknames often
I highly doubt that
im sure you are
obsidian zealot
Rift S is more comfortable and has a slightly better screen compared to Quest. But you should demo one to make sure the lenses line up with your eyes because Rift S lenses are fixed and can not be adjusted. If they are blurry for you they always will be, no slider
Quest has a slider to get them perfectly in focus
safe mason
Waiting on my shadow to activate so I can play vr chat decently again
Completely wireless PCVR here I come
west wraith
lusty vector
nice!
dusk bison
Welcome to the cool kids club
stiff kettle
Yes
civic moss
i might have became a furry.
lusty vector
@small cargo sounds like you changed the default mute setting, if you go into settings there should be an option to enable your microphone defaulting to unmuted near the top middle if I remember correctly
potent knot
Why doesn’t smart karaoke work
tawny holly
so i just got an oculus quest and every time i join vrchat through steam vr my gestures go off like crazy without pressing any buttons??? HELP PLZ
robust lintel
Who’s trying to go on some Rick and morty type Adventures?
haughty coyote
fellers i need help
so
my vrc just doesn't load into my home after the logging in screen
stoic dock
austere island
Is the audio back yet ???
tawdry wyvern
Nice
woeful cypress
Better not down the drain, cus that would mean gone for nothing. 
lyric valve
hey
abstract basin
just to check
vrchat's lagging for everyone on quest rn right?
or is that just a me problem
carmine plover
Anyone wanna play some Vr Chat?
small cargo
or is that just a me problem
@abstract basin nope
Me and my friends have horrible lag spikes when someone else spawns
Opening the menu can result into lag spikes of death too
Im just ALONE in a Quest optimized world nothing there mirror is of and all of a sudden nobody spawned i crash i just started the game
Roundabout 4 days ago the game was running fine and now its fuc...ed all over again
And yes before i get any pc players advice im using an optimized avatar 🙄
The sad thing is that they got it down almost no crashing almost no lag besides opening the Menu and now its all just a laggy mess again 👍
Im realy wondering how the devs TEST the quest version im reaaaaly wondering 🙄 🤔
woeful cypress
Some DEV's also have a quest to test thigns with, sadly unlike with the PC build there can't really be a open beta for the quest build that users can test.
PC version's patches got a lot better since the open beta is running and patches can be field tested more, if that where available on the quest then it would likely also be better there.
😦
small cargo
Thank You for ur Reply
But how can they release something that makes stuff worse then it was before how is it that we get an update and its actually good and u see some light at the end of the tunnel just to get it taken again by an update that does the opposite
How if they test in any way are they letting these updates out thats just blowing my mind it just feels like less and less people care for the quest version pc people mostly have no idea what quest is like and only see us crash all the time its no wonder pc players mostly dont take quest Serious ad dont look into it and its avatar creation
Its just very frustrating especially when u got ur quest mainly for VR-Chat
i apologize if im anoying in any way i just had to get that of my shoulders ✌️
abstract basin
i hate the type of pc players who are like that
cus its annoying and turns people off the game
also if the problem with open beta testing on quest is that it'd be too risky to put it on the oculus store or whatever
then they could possibly try putting open betas on sidequest for people to try
small cargo
I hate that type of pc players too really kills the fun but how and why should they not think quest is bad if all we do is crash infront of them and lag horribly everytime someone spawns or changes his or her avatar in the same room
Atleast thats my and some friends situation ATM
And i loove ur idea with sidequest i dont know about any regulations about that but look someone who wants to find a solution will find a solution im still standing here thinking devs dont really care but yea we quest people have to wait it out again i guess
Until we get another
up or downgrade its pretty much random at this point lets just hope for the best Best 🤷♂️ > then they could possibly try putting open betas on sidequest for people to try
@abstract basin
abstract basin
guess so
thing is i was dealing with those type of pc players when the game was functioning properly too
small cargo
Updates on quest be like
abstract basin
lol
haughty coyote
Anyone want to meme with me
haughty coyote
No no don’t touch me there this is my no no square @haughty coyote
Like josh dubs
marsh nimbus
Hello! ^^
tardy summit
Hi again
haughty coyote
`You have died. Do you wish to continue?
[YES] [NO]`
sterile skiff
[NO]
quasi maple
How well does the Vr desktop streamer app work for VRC on the quest? Does anyone know?
austere island
is the audio fixed yet ????
lyric elk
It's funny that I have the same amount of friends on oculus friends as in the real world, exactly 0!
obsidian zealot
If you mean audio on avatars, it not working isn’t considered a bug. It was removed intentionally. @austere island
fleet pawn
haughty coyote
me too
obsidian zealot
Hi everyone, I’m old here
brave island
Do you think that VRChat will experiment with hand tracking on quest?
blazing sparrow
no
haughty coyote
Does anyone wanna be friends on quest?? I’m still figuring out some things
steel fiber
I dont understand why Dynamic bones isnt already on quest there is a world that shows they work completely fine on quest
blazing sparrow
because people will put 200 on each avatar and the quest will crash.
steel fiber
this is a reason im getting a pc because vr games are better on there
haughty coyote
Well yeah. You'd be going from the power of a phone/N Switch to a pc
brave island
Why don't they just limit how many bones you can use on quest avatars?
blazing sparrow
Because nobody cares about that.
abstract basin
istg the quest version is damn near broken atm
like i just had to completely restart my headset because the game froze when i went opened the world menu
eager pebble
@obsidian zealot you use quest alot right adeon? how does screenshots look like for quest users? can you show some?
obsidian zealot
I use Quest yes but I exclusively play using Oculus Link, so my screenshots will look the same as anyone else using VR on Rift. Is that what you are expecting? @eager pebble
eager pebble
oh no i meant specifically quest users and their resolution screenshots
but thats nice to know too
obsidian zealot
Ah yeah sorry I don’t use the quest client
eager pebble
@obsidian zealot can you show me an example of a screenshot in quest link though in vrc?
just 1 picture will do
obsidian zealot
eager pebble
@obsidian zealot cute
honest abyss
adorable
haughty coyote
Love your avatar
tight crater
Is anyone else having problems getting into vrc
I can’t seem to login at all, it loads for an excessively long time then freezes
I already restarted it a lot, that didn’t help
It actually seems to happen whenever it tries to spawn into a world
I reinstalled it and it got through the login and stuff just fine, but when i pressed go on the tutorial button it froze
tight crater
Still having this problem. Idk what to do
uneven pewter
@tight crater perhaps restart your quest once more.
tight crater
Alright, will do
uneven pewter
You might want to reinstall Vrchat too. ^^;;
tight crater
@uneven pewter it’s still happening 🙁
Thanks for the tips though!
I might just end up doing a factory reset tbh
zinc oak
Does anybody wanna play In like 30 -20 mins
tight crater
i’m sorry for doing this, but i kinda have to ping a team member at this point. @still veldt , i’m having extreme difficulty getting into vrchat. I have done everything from restarting and reinstalling to literally factory resetting my headset. I don’t know what’s going on but i really need help. It gets through the sign in butter smooth, but as soon as it’s done, and tries to load me into my home world, it freezes. Sometimes it doesn’t even get off the login screen. Please help?
cold pewter
Some one ping me ?
haughty coyote
@tight crater you clear the cache on vrc? Sounds like the issue I was having with not being able to get into any worlds a few days ago because of a cache problem. I cleared the cache and restarted my vrc and it was back to normal.
tight crater
How do you do that on Quest? @haughty coyote
haughty coyote
@tight crater If I remember correctly it's in settings somewhere. I'll look for you real quick.
Okay if you're able to load into your home world at all,open settings and go to advanced settings and clear the cache
tight crater
Also sorry about pinging a team member last night, it was really late and i wasn’t thinking straight haha
I’m not able to load into my home world at all, it happens right after the sign in screen and doesn’t leave the green loading zone, ever
haughty coyote
:c you did a factory reset and everything and it's still doing that?
tight crater
Yup. Don’t know what’s happening
tight crater
I can’t find anyone with the same problem as me unfortunately
haughty coyote
Imagine not having video players working for quest during the virus lockdown 😬
It’d be cool to have it
haughty coyote
What are the most beautiful quest worlds?
abstract basin
yeah wish they could get video players working just for movie nights and stuff
also wish they'd fix the game so its back to the way it played in december
cus december was flawless
now its a lot of flaws
woeful cypress
the 2017 build was far from flawless
woeful cypress
But things will keep beeing worked on, Quest will likely always be a bit slower on the side of developement as big open beta's aren't possible unlike wiht the PC Build
marble marsh
I'm sure getting new features and versions of Unity to place nice with mobile hardware is a challenge tbh
woeful cypress
Yeah, and with the much more limited options for (field) testing.
abstract basin
yeah
woeful cypress
Patch quality has gone up a lot since open beta's started
abstract basin
i wish them the best
like i said before if they wanted to release open betas for quest they could do so on sidequest
but i suppose that might be a hassle
warm quiver
Quest arrives tomorrow
tight crater
Really?
lusty vector
Yep
tight crater
Have you found a fix?
lusty vector
nope
tight crater
damn wtf
lusty vector
The only way I can play VRChat atm is through Oculus Link
tight crater
Did it happen after it was left on for a long time, or after a crash?
Because both of which are triggers i can think of that applies to my situation
lusty vector
I don’t know, I stopped playing VRChat for like half a month then when I tried playing again I started having this
tight crater
huh
lusty vector
Just to make sure, your game hangs right after the Logging in as (user)... panel disappears yes?
tight crater
Yeah
lusty vector
Okay just double checking
Yeah I have no idea what the issue is
I’ve also done a factory reset to no avail before
And for some reason VRChat on Quest doesn’t make a log file
Which makes this much more difficult
tight crater
All i can think of is it might be a hardware issue?
Due to vrc being a very gpu intensive game
lusty vector
That’s what VRChat support told me and to maybe try and contact Oculus support? Don’t think they’d be much help sadly
But yeah, from what I’ve been told nobody at VRC actually has a Quest so
tight crater
Well i have Neos
Which is much, much more gpu intensive
I might try and launch it and see if i can get it to work
Has your quest been particularly buggy on startup?
lusty vector
Like?
tight crater
For example like no tracking error immediately on startup, tracking going crazy for a minute before calming down
I don’t know if that’s just the quest being the quest or something wrong with mine
lusty vector
Sometimes when I start up my Quest I see the no tracking screen for a split second
Every now and again but not very often one of my controllers gets a little weird but
That usually is either because of low battery or just fixes by taking the battery out and back in
Also I just remembered who you are lol
tight crater
Taking the battery out?
lusty vector
Of the controllers
tight crater
Ohhh
lusty vector
I think we’ve met in-game before
tight crater
Wait your name does look familiar
lusty vector
...and we are friends on Discord apparently
tight crater
LMAO what
lusty vector
check mutual friends
tight crater
What is the coincidence that we know each other and are having the same obscure problem tf
lusty vector
yeah lmao
I’ve only seen a couple other people here that have/had this issue and I don’t remember who they are
tight crater
Maybe it’s not as obscure as i thought
tight crater
Would messing with the client for the purpose of solely getting it to run be bannable?
marble marsh
Any modification is ^
marble marsh
Malicious intent or not if you modify the VRChat client you can be banned for it
lusty vector
I bet if VRC just produced an output log this would be able to be fixed a lot easier
tight crater
Definitely
lusty vector
Without just making shots in the dark
tight crater
I might use LANC to see if vrchat is still connecting to the servers while it’s hanging or not
lusty vector
I tried using adb logcat
It gave me some info
Hold on I sent screenshots here at some point
tight crater
kk
lusty vector
again, not really much information from it
basically just saying it was logging me in and trying to connect to the server
tight crater
Yea
Well let’s use what we got here:
It’s obscure, so it’s not affecting other players and isn’t a problem with the update
In my case, it happened after a period of being in sleep mode for 3 weeks and then immediately used to try and cast it to sidequest, thus crashing vrc and that’s when the issue started
Resetting home world and avatar does nothing
Restarting, reinstalling, and factory resetting quest does nothing, leading me to believe it’s not a software issue
It’s not an issue with caches
It’s not a network firewall issue due to the hang
The only option i see here is a hardware issue to be honest
lusty vector
Mmm
tight crater
But that doesn’t entirely make sense because any other game runs butter smooth, and it runs perfectly fine until it tries to load a world
lusty vector
Exactly
tight crater
Actually scratch that, did you notice the very first “loading” popup takes a bit longer than usual?
lusty vector
YES
I forgot to mention that
It takes at least another 10-15 second or so than before the issue began
tight crater
It might be a vrchat issue then?
But why would it affect only us
Plus a few others
lusty vector
Yeah, it’s very confusing
tight crater
Also the game seems to hang at first for a very short amount of time while it loads the controller models
lusty vector
I think that happens for me as well
tight crater
What if our quests are limiting the amount of ram or cpu % that vrchat can use?
marble marsh
In a ideal world everything would be made exactly the same, but we're not in a ideal world we're in reality where 100% copies of something are practically impossible. Basically no matter what there's small differences in everything from hardware, software, etc. This allows for situations where only a select few people run into issues despite using the same specs.
tight crater
Yes, but this is different, as this happened to me immediately after i used vrchat, in front of a mirror, while using a 10k poly avatar and casting to sidequest
meaning this happened after i overloaded the system
It used to work just fine
marble marsh
Well in fairness wouldn't that be your fault for doing that with sidequest?
tight crater
Yes, it was dumb, but that shouldn’t matter as i’m using it without sidequest now, after a factory reset
lusty vector
I don’t think I ever pushed the Quest to its limits or anything?
tight crater
Maybe you left vrchat running for an extended period of time?
lusty vector
Maybe?
tight crater
Anyway, since our problems are exactly the same overloading the quest might be unrelated
I think we need more people with this problem
To get more information
lusty vector
Yeah
tight crater
I’ve opened a support ticket to oculus, hopefully i can ask them if the system will limit gpu % availible or ram usage availible after a software overloads the system
Vrchat might crash after a while, but my theory is that in my case Sidequest took a ton of power from the headset, but the quest probably won’t recognize that and think that, since vrchat is the app running, it’s taking all of the power
And thus limit it’s gpu % usage or ram usage (whichever one) to stop the issue from happening again
It’s a pretty out there theory but it’s the best i’ve got with how damn confusing this is
It’s not like vrchat would just stop without something wrong happening, and for an effect to happen there always needs to be a cause
And evidence to back this is that loading a world probably takes a lot more power than logging in, thus causing the headset to hang the process. More evidence would be the extended loading time, mini freeze at the loading of controller models, and extended login time
Sorry if this is a little much, i think a lot better when i’m typing or talking
Oh yeah, @lusty vector did you notice it also takes longer to login or is that just me
lusty vector
¯_(ツ)_/¯
tight crater
But then again, we did both factory reset which should’ve ended all that
duuude there are so many conflicting factors here
hybrid basalt
Greetings so how you all doing?
tight crater
good
tight crater
I have some interesting screenshots from an adb logcat i ran just to see
Here's one that got spammed a ton before the hang, when vrchat launched
This got spammed when it froze
And this one got spammed after it froze, when it updated to fit the screen of the headset but still was only one frame
I don't know if the first one is related
rancid crow
When trying to try use Oculus Link, connecting to PC, everything seems to have gone smoothly for the most part. Quest checks out and connects accordingly no problems with installations. The problem I have is that the hub displays on PC rather than the actual Quest headset. I get pure blackness in the Quest headset. Anyone know what's up with that?
tight crater
What does World temporary ban check mean?
tight crater
Whatever’s happening needs to be fixed now
I’m just trying to play vrc with my friends man and i feel left out 
Can’t get in at all, no matter what i try it will always freeze
It’s like the game just doesn’t exist past that point
lusty vector
it looks like the connection to the server times out?
I never saw the stuff in the last screenshot but maybe I didn’t scroll enough
And the temporary_ban_check thing leads to a 404 error so either an issue on VRC’s end or they have a hacky way of setting bans with a world
tacit root
Is there any good raccoon avatars?
I saw the ones it the world with a cyberpunk background but those were a bit furry looking for me
Any less furry ones?
eager hull
Does anyone else get that black pixelation in their headset occasionally?
daring sierra
somber anchor
Who knows where to find a good, male anime character with Dynamic bones
marble marsh
with Dynamic bones
What a weird thing to ask for on a avatar for quest considering dynamic bones isn't supported on quest.
abstract basin
@eager hull like a big part of the screen is just large black pixels?
cus if you mean that then yeah
eager hull
@eager hull like a big part of the screen is just large black pixels?
@abstract basin — Yes. The quest loads something in, then all the sudden: BLACK PIXELS!
abstract basin
bruh i hate when that happens
cus then i have to restart my whole game
does you game ever completely freeze when you open the menu and then you have to restart your quest?
obsidian zealot
I’ve been working on a quest version all day yesterday. I’m almost down to 10K. 7.5K is going to have some tears. Both definitions.
austere island
is the audio back yet ???
frosty copper
obsidian zealot
@austere island Audio being allowed was a bug. The bug is now fixed. It's not coming back.
mighty marsh
does anyone know how to fix playing a game using the link going back to the quest menu but the link isnt disconnected?
obsidian zealot
Sounds like your USB port is loose or had a short, or your cable does
Avoid adapters if you can
marsh warren
AIGHT
Quick question about Quest
I can just download the Vrchat on the oculus Quest store, right?
haughty coyote
Yeah
copper lance
@somber anchor dynamic bones - on quest ? rly
marsh warren
Good news, I found a trusted seller. Bad news, due to pandemic, the stock is unavailable for now
somber anchor
@somber anchor dynamic bones - on quest ? rly
@copper lance yep. My PC friend wants it.
grave flicker
It’s possible too. There is a world showcasing Dynamic Bones working on Quest. I have a Quest, and it ran perfectly fine there
tall tide
My tiktok account go hacked 😠
winged prism
Eyy
marble marsh
A very simple world with what like 3 avatars with dynamic bones doesn't automatically mean every avatar on Quest should be allowed Dynamic bones.
The performance may be acceptable in worlds where the only thing is a ground plane and some avatars but in more sophisticated worlds the performance would likely be pretty bad.
vague valley
hello @everyone
west shard
huh
vague valley
eazyer said then done
undone flare
thank god that doesnt actually work
sturdy musk
I know this is a quest chat, and I play on Vrchat pc, but does anyone else desperately want a quest even though it's sold out rn
obsidian zealot
@marsh warren The Quest can run vrchat from the quest store but if you are able to run it from your PC you will be able to see all avatars and worlds. The quest store version is limited in what it can see.
lusty vector
yes, sadly the native Quest version is fairly limited
tight crater
Hey @lusty vector , i don’t know what i did, but it’s fixed! Is it the same for you?
lusty vector
wait what? let me try
maybe it’s because of Quest v17??
hold on
I think it might be fixed, loading took only about 2 seconds
Lemme log in
tight crater
Yep! Same for me
lusty vector
THANK GOD
I think it’s because of the new v17 Quest update
Because I didn’t get a VRC update
tight crater
Well i emailed them and they said they would look into it
Idc what it is i’m just happy to get back into vrchat
tight crater
I was so scared i wouldn’t be able to play all summer haha
rancid crow
Not sure if anyone else is getting it, but some avatars (including my own I create) will display it twice (one in each eye) when viewing it in the menu.
winged prism
Idk how you add people on quest
haughty coyote
@rancid crow you talking about that trippy image when the second one moves wherever you look?
rancid crow
@haughty coyote Yeah that one
haughty coyote
I'm honestly thinking its just a bug with certain shaders
marsh warren
I hope the VrChat has some big update on the Oculus 🤔
haughty coyote
It will they said they are working on the whole seeing robots thing on Quest VRChat
haughty coyote
But there working on other stuff in the mean time
waxen grail
I need help with my quest rq.
i was playing with it on my pc fine last night, but now its all glitched out.
My controllers aren't in my hands, there just sitting above me when i enter.
small cargo
Batterys out and in before i mean sounds stupid but should solve the issue if u DID not try that before
magic sorrel
I wish I could help put my input fam but I have yet to play Quest on the PC. I just bought the dongle so I can try to connect it to my PC because I just got the memo that PC's now have a fucking USB C extension, and I'm a totally dingus :')
plucky barn
Is there any way to erase memory without loosing your characters
violet rock
haughty coyote
We don't know enough about del mar
It was only leaked. Not officially announced
So probably going to be a while
waxen grail
Can anyone help me, i plugged in my headset and it keeps connect and disconnecting so i keep leaving the vr game.
lusty vector
@waxen grail I’m guessing you’re referring to Oculus Link? Cable might be loose or something
waxen grail
@lusty vector yes, but how do i fix that
lusty vector
just make sure your cable is plugged in well on both ends
sturdy musk
I know this is another question from a pc user in a quest chat, but has anyone tried to pre-order a quest from amazon, but the only thing it says is "the cart is empty" I've been trying to catch the certain times amazon has the $399 preorder listed but everytime I am unable to preorder
haughty coyote
The best place to order the quest if your in the us is oculus.com but if your out of the us amazon is definitely your best bet, and that’s probably because the site is still updating from bots instantly buying them out
@sturdy musk hope that answers your question
haughty coyote
Hm
obsidian zealot
Both me and 2 of my friends got them from oculus.com. Just sign up for NowInStock.net notifications and order it as soon as they say in stock. There’s like a 10 minute window if you get in you get backordered for a week and then it ships in two days or so
Oculus is selling most of theirs direct, rather than amazon
sterile basalt
Hi
haughty coyote
hi
signal summit
hey
shrewd turtle
Who can help me? Why does the installation progress on my pc close on its own when i try to download the ovulus app?
haughty coyote
hi
wanton dagger
Not quest but there doesn't seem to be a general VR Hardware channel so. Does anyone have the Pimax Artisan? Index has been out of stock for a long time and im wondering if its fully compatible with SteamVR/VRChat. I would like to know what kind of controllers its working with. There's a 900$ bundle for it putting it as a direct competitor to index, does it have multi finger control like index? and if so are the controllers finger functions compatible with VRchat like index knuckles?
copper lance
Pimax use vive base / lighthouse so you can use knuckles or any vive oob - it all still works with steam vr however the pimax setup is a nightmare compared to others @wanton dagger
sturdy musk
@obsidian zealot I always check that site, but the only pre orders I’ve seen are on amazon. And even thought I haven’t been able to order, they still say they’ll be back in stock by July. And I wouldn’t be able to order regardless as some sort of error is preventing me from being able to.
obsidian zealot
I’m saying don’t do preorders basically
Anything that does preorders is most likely a scam
Or if not a scam is backordered for months
You’ll get one as soon as possible buying direct when one goes in stock
Plenty of distributors are fine taking your money knowing full well they won’t have stock for half a year
sturdy musk
But im still confused how you were able to get one
I mean I know certain places have them, but for jacked up prices
obsidian zealot
Nowinstock.net can send you a text when oculus.com goes in stock which is about 7 or 10 times a day. They offer at 399 and give free two day shipping, though they only stay in stock for about 3 minutes at a time and get backordered to around a week before they ship in 2 days
I did it this way and so did two of my friends
You just have to stalk the website
I ended up getting it after 3 days of careful monitoring when it is able to be put in cart and then got my headset in a week
sturdy musk
Yeah, I have it set to send an email when they are in stock, but it always notifies as amazon preorders which is weird
obsidian zealot
You subscribed to amazon instead of oculus.com
sturdy musk
OH NOW I KNOW (I think) what to do
obsidian zealot
Also the notifications only get sent when it’s in stock for a longer period, oculus.com can go in stock and out real quick and nowinstock won’t notice
sturdy musk
Wait a sec Im on Nowinstock rn, how would I set notifications for oculus.com
Or would I just go to oculus.com and do it there
obsidian zealot
Nowinstock.net should give you a list of distributors and oculus.com is one of them
sturdy musk
I don't see Oculus.com here or im dumb
haughty coyote
What will you do when video players come to quest??
I’m thinking movie nights 🤔 chilling with friends all night and stuff like that 😆
obsidian zealot
@shell stag you are correct they have removed oculus
.com from being traceable. I wonder why? Me and two other friends got out quests this way. Perhaps oculus made their website unable to poll stock.
@sturdy musk
Sorry similar names
austere island
I want audio
tawdry wyvern
No.
subtle panther
Hello I have a I have a question I just had my virtual Real headset which is called the quest I would like to know how to remove the blur because it really bothers me when I am in session it is really disturbing for the head
heavy bolt
@subtle panther adjust the eye width things on the bottom
sturdy musk
@obsidian zealot I got my quest off of Walmart today, it's been about four hours and they still have stock so I'm guessing more stores will have them, So anyone who doesn't have one should get it
hazy torrent
Hey has anyone have trouble getting Vrchat to open using Link, like it will open on my laptop screen but it won't show on my vr headset
obsidian zealot
Can you see the PC version of Oculus Dashi n the headset? You need to launch it from the headset, not the computer.
hazy torrent
Which i did, I launched it on the headset but it's stuck on the loading screen
obsidian zealot
Can other games work over Link?
hazy torrent
Yes
obsidian zealot
Hm, can't say I've ran into that issue. Link is working via both the charging cable and a third party "party link" cable
Are you running the Oculus Home or Steam version? Try the opposite?
hazy torrent
Oculus home, but does the same for steam, it says its loading only for the laptop to show that the software is running but the vr headset is stuck on the loading screen.
It even responds to the headsets movement on the laptop
obsidian zealot
Is the laptop VR capable? It's possible it's not the loading screen but the "Your framerate is not high enough to display this" screen
hazy torrent
Should be, i compared the compatibility should be fine
I was able to play a different game on there idk why it wouldn't work
Maybe if I tinker with the graphics card maybe, at least the software i mean
haughty coyote
Hi
oak needle
tawdry wyvern
Lots of factor can create bad performances
haughty coyote
I haven’t crashed
haughty coyote
how do i get approved?
somber anchor
Wdym "approved"?
haughty coyote
VRCBot told me that i can get approved in this server
obsidian zealot
Something must be fixed with the quest client. I have safety disabled, and as many avatars shown by default as I can (Poor) still, I would say I can't see around 70% of other QUEST users. Include PC users and it's probably around 95% of avatars still blocked by default.
And most of the time if you unblock them you'll either lag terribly or outright crash.
There needs to be hard caps to the quest upload. No one cares how laggy their quest upload is.
Even worse than the lag is just not being able to see anyone by default
It's silly that not even Quest-only instances fix this
mystic heath
Ive noticed a lot of avatars showing poor quality as well for quest users and it astounded me because the sdk, at least for worlds, has a very strict limit on how you can upload them. I see some avatars well over the poly count and shader count all over the place now
haughty coyote
whats going on here?
lunar marten
Does anyone know how to fix a problem when i go into vr chat and it is blinking black and then the game and it keeps doing that.
haughty coyote
thats happened to me once, all i did is i force reset the quest
lunar marten
oh ok i have tried that alot but i will try again
haughty coyote
i just noticed how lonely this channel is
tawdry wyvern
hi
still cypress
coughs
tawdry wyvern
🦟
haughty coyote
hello their
raven fable
Aloha
haughty coyote
whats hanging bro
hollow silo
anyone wanna trade pats/hugs
austere island
i want audio back on quest
haughty coyote
anyone wanna trade pats/hugs
@hollow silo for what?
hollow silo
Trade pats n hugs for pats and hugs ofc :D
haughty coyote
ooooh ok
wait wait wait so im trading the same thing
well then hell yeeeeeah i will
fallow junco
Guys when i open VRchat and enter any world like vrchat hub the game the game crashes or it back me from the start plzzzz any solution ?
dusk bison
I’ll take that as a no then
quaint cloud
blazing sparrow
^ quest updates in a nutshell
frail pasture
They messed up almost all particles
small cargo
Soo before i even CONSIDER updating
Is it any better or is it even worse then before becouse what im seeing here doesnt look Promising
at all
dusk bison
I swear they just don’t test quest updates at all
small cargo
So it is worse
I cant even IMAGINE how this so called "game play" could get any worse
tidal ivy
Anyone else not seeing the update for vrchat at all? Would it have automatically done it? Last time I had to manually update but I havnt seen it give me the option yet even though announcements said its out
small cargo
Restart ur quest maybe
small cargo
Ur welcome 👌
Something must be fixed with the quest client. I have safety disabled, and as many avatars shown by default as I can (Poor) still, I would say I can't see around 70% of other QUEST users. Include PC users and it's probably around 95% of avatars still blocked by default.
And most of the time if you unblock them you'll either lag terribly or outright crash.
There needs to be hard caps to the quest upload. No one cares how laggy their quest upload is.
@obsidian zealot
That is NOT the issue
How is it that sone weeks ago there was no lag on quest no crashes the game run Perfectly fine i dont think everybody just randomly changed to perfect compatible avatars no i dont think so No the answer is the devs for once gave two shits about a working quest update thats all
And its also weird that more and more people try now making good avatars for quest but the experience somehow is getting WORSE with almost every new update isnt that weird its almost like not the avatars that where used all the time no those stupid "we dont give a fuck" updates from the dev team almost only catered for pc players that is the problem
Now u see Tupper pushing for those weekly community Updates not ON of them Since they do that had anything for QUEST
So yea quest gets neglected 80% of the time
We had one thing that was fun the audio and the flying and rhe took it audio i could maybe be argued with but flying avatars
Yea becouse collision under ur feet the same as walking on the ground would crash people yea shure
Devs dont care for quest i dont think the even test their updates once
Quest players are forced to play Russian Roulette every update and hope to not die
Tupper is the community manager i dont see him Manage a Community i see him Manage Pc-community's
Quest welp i dont see any efort in ashuring quest players in Anything and that SUCKS
obsidian zealot
It’s not VRChat’s fault that the quest is underpowered
obsidian zealot
Ok it’s VRChat’s fault that the quest is underpowered
small cargo
From pc to quest runs LIKE BUTTER
Every game
Only vrc runs like a car without wheels or an engine
Its easy to say the hardware is bad maybe it is not only the hardware the hardware hasnt changed so how is it that the gameplay keeps getting worse
obsidian zealot
“Other game ports From Pc to quest runs like butter” because they make content that runs well on Quest. VRChat doesn’t make their content
obsidian zealot
Then don’t hang out in them...?
small cargo
Isnt that easy instead of MAYBE listening once that maybe not Only the hardware is the issue
Becouse of very good evidence that it issnt
Just take the easy way out
Like every pc user u dont have to care right but the second u get server latencys of maybe a second u all loose ur shit
obsidian zealot
I think you need to calm down. I don’t have any issue with lag on quest and I’m playing on the same hardware you are. My only issue is I can’t see anyone. There is not really any lag. Perhaps you have accidentally shown very poor avatars?
small cargo
Then don’t hang out in them...?
@obsidian zealot
So dont hang out in user made world and also dont hang out in vrc devs world nice one
Inhabe decablbed every avatar besides friends
small cargo
I have decabled litterally everything
And anytime someone spawns a worls u lag
Someone changes avatar even if u dont see them lag
obsidian zealot
Your own avatar will also lag you
small cargo
U open ur world menu LAG
obsidian zealot
What’s the one you are wearing rated?
small cargo
Yes go play on pc u havnt listen to one thingni said
obsidian zealot
I have a quest.
small cargo
Again it wasnt an issue before why is it NOW
Why is updates making the experience worse
obsidian zealot
Because the game didn’t have a chance to lag before. It just crashed instead.
small cargo
No again listen
The was an update 3 weeks ago the game run like butter
But for some.reason quests buttery gameplay made pc players experience latencys of round about a second or so no idea why so the all lost their shit and next update queat was Unplayable again
I saw it it was smooth auest was suuuper smooth and then they killed it again it was smooth with rhe same avatar
It was smoth opening rhe menu
It was just a smooth experience
oblique orbit
Damn you two are still going?
How the hell do you type that much
You’ve put more into this channel then I have my education
dusk bison
Mood
oblique orbit
📚
dusk bison
There was only one update that was good, no lag, no crashes, and we still had audio and what not.
small cargo
Im just disappointed that almost every update makes the experience worse
That im not able to have conversations at all without lagging like an idiot
Knowing that everything is catered to pc and the dont care at all for quest anymore the just gave up on us
oblique orbit
It is really laggy
dusk bison
I think it’s not necessarily catered to pc they just forget about quest users.
small cargo
And that sucks
dusk bison
They’re just doing updates as they normally would and not purposefully neglecting quest but not really caring
small cargo
I think a community manager should Look into the whole community
dusk bison
They need to test quest updates since it gets worse every update
small cargo
And then he would see the truth quest people arnt happy atm
oblique orbit
I came back to try to meet up with my old friends from November and I can’t spend 10 minutes without my screen freezing and fucking my head up
small cargo
Pls fix ur updates
dusk bison
wow the more I hear about this new update the more this photo is fax
small cargo
Im going to check it out i dont want to but as far is i heard its crashing again
But smart people said i shouldnt go in any worlds at all and i should be fine
dusk bison
I think he just thinks it’s easier to blame it on the avatars.