Wait is there a support channep
#quest-general
sleek pine
elder pecan
spring nimbus
vrchat is being nicer to me now
dusk bison
It seems that every time I download a model from the website the bot won’t let me say, it also downloads a new sdk
and now this is happening
and this happens whenever I try to delete them
tawdry wyvern
Vjrus
acoustic vigil
Im trying to upload my first world for quest when i click the upload button nothing happening and there are no errors
dusk bison
Idk
lusty vector
gonna try to load VRC again and probably crash
i don't expect the problem to be gone but worth a shot
im just bored
no luck
weak tapir
Ayyyyyy vrchat is running a whole lot better sadly no batteries for my controllers ;~; so I haven't seen how it works in vrchat hubs which if I last long n crash or black screen then it's the usual vrchat hub
hot sphinx
I got a avatar that every time I load in I crash myself
obsidian zealot
lost mountain
Hey guys I need some help
magic jacinth
i am planning on updating my avatar to be quest compatible, but i don't know what the 3rd step means on this picture
lost mountain
It means to publish it as new build, if you want I can test it to see if it works right.
magic jacinth
yeah but i mean how do i get to the screen shown in the picture
lost mountain
But my problem is my avatars hands disappear everytime they are near the headset. And I have no idea, send me a screenshot of the screen your looking at and we can figure it out.
acoustic vigil
Vrchat keeps crashing
jade solstice
Hey Guys, so im getting a quest on wednesday and i just wanted to ask whats the difference between VRChat on quest and VRchat on the pc? And is it possible to play the Pc VRchat with the questlink?
Or is it possible to play with the people that have like a vive or smth else?
haughty coyote
@jade solstice Id recommend a Rift S if you have a pc good enough
You can’t see as many models with the quest; or worlds. To be able to see people with detailed models you’ll need an PCVR.
jade solstice
and the link cable doesnt change it?
obsidian zealot
If you have a PC, and would get a rift S, I’d recommend a quest instead. It can play the same games via USB, and has the option to be wireless as well
Same price, and a IPD slider
I prefer prefer oled over lcd as well but that’s just me
And yes quest connected to pc plays the pc vrchat. No quest limited version. It doesn’t even say you are using quest. That’s how I play.
obsidian zealot
The downside is the quest is front heavy due to having a cpu. If you are only going to use it as a pc headset, dedicated pc headsets are more lightweight
jade solstice
I see, I owe you one
lost mountain
To counter the weight I attached a small box of dead batteries to the back. Works great
lost mountain
I need help from someone who can create avatars.
haughty coyote
Wish I could help buddy, im stuck on something too
lost mountain
Damn
haughty coyote
I ran into two avatars with Audio today, I'm confused as hell
lost mountain
Well I just can’t download it or activate a liscense
mystic marlin
What does avatar audio do?
lusty vector
anybody else have issues where the game crashed upon logging in on Quest? support said it's due to the 2020.1.1 update
i've asked around about this already here but I just want to see if im the only one
obsidian zealot
Yes, lots of people have been asking this the last 3 days
haughty coyote
My friend has the Quest, he had this issue start since 3 days ago when we played the first time together on VRChat.
lusty vector
so he has the same issue where he crashes when logging in after the loading screen? @haughty coyote
somber anchor
Anyone know where to good anime skins are?
elder pecan
I don't think there are any 
But check the avatar worlds !
haughty coyote
@somber anchor jojosfries has the ones you want, unless you're actually talking about ones from anime
somber anchor
I’m looking for nice looking avatars, so anything’ll do
tawdry wyvern
Kings raid
haughty coyote
@lusty vector (Sorry for ping) But yeah, that's basically his issue. His Quest works fine, he updated his VRChat and as soon as he did that he's been unable to play since then.
lusty vector
you're fine for pinging me
i have the same issue, even a factory reset of my Quest didn't fix it
support says that they've been having issues with the 2020.1.1 update on Quest
haughty coyote
Unfortunately, the only fix of this is waiting for a new update to fix these issues, hope it'll take less than a week at least.
lusty vector
mhm
primal sedge
Figures that I finally buy a Quest and now I find out VRchat is buggy as heck on it
obsidian zealot
If you have a PC, the PC version still runs fine on Quest.
But yeah native quest app is bork
obsidian zealot
yeah you just connect a USB 3.0 cable, you can play steam games too that way. I've played all of Half Life Alyx that way.
you bought a quest and didn't know that?! lol
primal sedge
XD I'm a tech noob
Well I know what I'm going to buy the next time I'm out, a 3.0 cable
obsidian zealot
usb cable 3.0 to USBC.
lusty vector
also your PC has to be vr-capable
obsidian zealot
you can get 5 meter ones for like 12 bucks at the right place
it's also possible to just play games wirelessly from a PC's router, but you need a really good router and a really good pc
primal sedge
gotcha
obsidian zealot
but yeah the feature is called Quest Link. look it up. all of Rift + Steam's library is available to quest with a pc
legit no reason to buy a Rift S tbh
primal sedge
Thanks for letting me know 🙂
fallen drum
Quest port crashes a lotttt
obsidian zealot
Yes it's broken at the moment. They really need a sticky.
obsidian gyro
Hey There I have a question about using an avatar for quest, I uploaded a avatar on VR chat only to find out that it was PC only so then I re-did the Project in unity and set it to the android version and it seems to of worked but when I entered the game on my quest I could not see the avatar in my creations but I could see the PC Avatar, so I was wondering why I can’t see my newly made quest avatar on my creations menu and I also went to the VR chat website browser and it was showing up in my creations there but again not in the game. Please help.
haughty coyote
make sure the quest version is uploaded with supported versions of unity
and make sure they both have the same blueprint id in the pipeline saver (I think that's what's it called)
obsidian gyro
I did and it’s working now I think, I’m able to be in the avatar on quest but it’s quest only now...now I’m just winding to have it cross platform.
Wondering I mean.
timid cosmos
It’s there a place for help on quest? I’ve been trying to load in since the latest update but it just gets stuck on the screen after logging in with quest. I’ve tried uninstalling and downloading VRC multiple times, it gets stuck on the same screen every time (for 2 hours+, I quit trying to wait after 2). Is there a way to fix this?
obsidian zealot
Yes it's broken at the moment. They really need a sticky.
timid cosmos
Oh oof
crude harness
Soooo I can’t even log in anymore on my quest. Crashes immediately. Uninstalled and reinstalled. Still nothing. This update has literally made things get worse as each day has gone by for me. From crashing sometimes to totally fucked. Why is this update so cursed?
oak chasm
Thanks. Reading this is swaying more to getting the rift S instead. Thanks guys xD
obsidian zealot
Oh, if you have a PC, Quest works just fine.
It's only the standalone quest app that doesn't work.
@oak chasm
Wither you want Rift S or Quest just depends on if you want the option to play without a computer or not. same price otherwise.
also LCD vs OLED
oak chasm
The only thing that was making me hesitant with the rift s honestly was just the fixed ipd. I wish I didn't have horse ipd
somber anchor
Heeey
somber anchor
How do you all make it so you don't crash as much
somber anchor
Lmao!!
obsidian zealot
I don’t know why anyone would get a rift s to be honest. The viable choices, to me, are index or quest. I feel like Quest Link is a straight upgrade over S
The mic quality is way better too. Rift S’s mic is pretty terrible, on quest people ask if I’m using a condenser.
sinful parrot
hey, i want to ask how to get allow permission to publish character skin in unity editor? @everyone
obsidian zealot
It is automatically given after you have used vrchat for a while and they determine you probably aren’t going to abuse it
mystic marlin
What's the best social setting to use on quest? Normal, beginner, user, friend etc?
obsidian zealot
I just disable that whole thing and set it to hide poor avatars.
hardy adder
Does anyone know why there’s gonna be a update for quest where quest users can only see 5000 polygon avatars?
shrewd oar
Do you think the Video Player will ever be compatible with the Quest?
wispy sphinx
Forget about the video player the fact that the poly limit is gonna be decreased to 5000 is bad
obsidian zealot
Source?
@wispy sphinx
I’d rather see 10K become an actual hard cap instead of a blocked by default for going above
I mean I could do 5K but I’d still like a citation
wispy sphinx
obsidian zealot
Thanks. Time to get it a little lower, sitting at like 7499 at the moment
hardy adder
Honestly where vrchat is rn for quest is pretty manageable. I don’t want them to fuck it up again like they did with the previous updates.
Does crashing/black screening suck? Yeah but compared to their attempts to “fix” it I’ll take it for how it is
blazing sparrow
I black screened before the update, and I don't really notice anything anymore.
But only about 3/4 times
obsidian zealot
I mean it’s probably poor timing because the quest version is completely broken right now so yeah I don’t think how it is currently is good at all
haughty coyote
and here comes the player base..
obsidian zealot
At the end of the day, VRC is still in early access. Memes went viral and they got traffic earlier than expected, but, I don't think the traffic we have now will be anything close to what it will be once VR goes mainstream.
A few people missing out right now won't mean much in the long run
It's all early adopters
hardy adder
True
dusk bison
If they remove the ability to wear avatars with 5k+ polys I’ll just delete the game. Personally I don’t think they would mess up that bad though, pretty much all avatars are very poor performance, and everyone is ok with that.
tawdry wyvern
on pc those avatar can lag us too
haughty coyote
hey
i am looking for someone to play with later that lives in the uk and is around 15-16 years old
carmine sigil
obsidian zealot
No idea what that is
brave island
I don't understand.. I try to ask to see if avatar audio came to the quest because people have been saying it did. And it went from that to people just making fun of the quest and treating it like a joke. It kinda annoys me a little that people don't understand that not everyone can afford an expensive gaming pc plus a vr headset.
Meh. They can think what they want > . <
obsidian zealot
Jokes on them as far as PCVR headsets go, Quest is way superior to vive or CV1. The fact that it has the ability to work without a pc is just bonus.
But with a PC? It’s wonderful, way sharper visuals than vive for a smaller price tag
ember ferry
I think that there should be a different way to get known and trusted rank on quest because j only got quest because I dont have a pc and the only way to get known or trusted is by creating a world or an avatar
obsidian zealot
There are literally people sleeping on quest and getting an original vive with its wands instead. And complaining that VR is blurry, lol
ember ferry
Which btw you need a pc for (I think)
obsidian zealot
Hi @ember ferry, Using Quest will get you rank just like anyone else
It’s not any faster or slower than pc users
ember ferry
Oh I dont need to create worlds or avatars then?
obsidian zealot
Creating worlds helps, but the fact that you are on quest won’t be any slower than a pc user who doesn’t make worlds or avatars
ember ferry
Ok thanks!
halcyon swift
wait its going to get decreased to only 5k?
That is insanely low. 10k would be miles better
I mean I am not for a cap at all but at least 10k wouldn't be too bad
tawdry wyvern
it wont be 5k
halcyon swift
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587692666507100181/699370345781788682/Capture.PNG then why does this say so (or at least around it)
atomic shard
The 5k limit is only for triangles though.
blazing sparrow
Exactly.
neon bramble
yo
atomic shard
There's still other types of polygons. Like squares and hexagons.
weak tapir
That's been a thing for since the launch on quest even if u view the avatar stats it says 5k polys but most avatar r over that much roughly around 10k
blazing sparrow
@atomic shard Those polygons are then broken down into triangles, which the device then renders.
haughty coyote
@haughty coyote that sounds suspicious as fuck.
nova dome
I am trying to build a quest world, is there any videos to show the process?
elder pecan
Process of uploading or creating ?
heady kestrel
@lusty vector Hey, sorry for the ping. I'm the friend that JD was talking about. Even still, I've been having the same problems as you. Has yours changed yet?
lusty vector
Nope, I think we just have to wait for an update. I've been using Oculus Link with my computer to play VRChat while I wait though.
heady kestrel
Ah, fair. I'm just waiting for my new Adapters to come in. Currently have a 15 foot long cord waiting. Though, I'm waiting for the update too as the adapters coming in on the 22nd.
lusty vector
Mine is only 6 feet but it works, just can't have a terribly large space.
A longer cord is much better though.
heady kestrel
Ah, that's fair. Yeah, I Decided that longer was the way to go tbh.
lusty vector
Playing VRC using Oculus Link is better though, to be fair, everything is a lot more high quality and you don't have to constantly enable avatars.
heady kestrel
That's true. But then again, when I've tried getting one, all the reviews that that the link doesn't actually work.
obsidian zealot
Does anyone have an issue with echo over mic on Quest? Everyone says I echo really bad.
heady kestrel
I didn't.
obsidian zealot
What are your speaker and microphone volumes set to?
heady kestrel
Max lmao
heady kestrel
Honestly, I haven't been on my quest in a bit, but as far as I remember, my mic never echoed.
obsidian zealot
are there any rift-like headphones made specifically for quest?
heady kestrel
I think you might be able to use the rift earbuds for it?
queen steppe
Hello
somber fulcrum
Audio from avatars are somehow allowed on quest vrc or somehow people managed to bypass it?
obsidian zealot
Are you using a quest yourself? Someone on quest can just put music on their windows build, even though they themselves don’t hear it
Nor do other quest users
This is normal and was always allowed
Sounds on avatars on actual android platform - that would be news to me
Though it is considered bad form to make avatar content different between the two platforms, quest users won’t know Pc users hear them making sounds
obsidian zealot
Any Quest users here who have 1.) the official travel case and 2.) the VRPower from rebuff reality
I am wondering if it fits inside it and can still zip up properly
somber fulcrum
i was on quest and i tested the avatar with my friend we had are mics muted so idk
obsidian zealot
Dunno then. Maybe it’s allowed now. Would be news to me.
worldly rapids
Sounds on Quest avatars is not officially supported
dusk bison
should be tho, it can run it.
I’ve seen avatars with multiple full length songs on them and not a single frame drop, even in a populated world.
obsidian zealot
I disagree. Every day you have people coming in saying they are crashing on Quest. I don’t think allowing more features is the best direction.
dusk bison
With or without audio you still crash the same.
worldly rapids
Still means if anything they should possibly lessen things a little more... I wouldn't like that but it's smarter than adding audio in my opinion. I can't say for certain though if crashes went up or stayed the same with audio and without.
ruby gazelle
The yesterday I got on vrchat, and it’s so unplayable on the quest. A friend and I planned to meet up there but it’s reached a point that it’s crashing every chance it gets.
worldly rapids
Optimized maps and optimized avatars. Sadly that is a lot to ask for on Quest.
ruby gazelle
yes, it is, and it sucks. this update is just so unplayable. I can’t go more than 3-5 mins without crashing
heady kestrel
Yeah... The devs need to get on this.
worldly rapids
A lot of my Quest friends have been crashing a lot
haughty coyote
why is it crashing though...
My Vrchat has been fine lol
It only crashes twice every hour
dusk bison
I’ve noticed that the only thing that seems to ever crash quest is people joining or switching avatars. I wonder if it’s possible to slow the avatar load times so the quest doesn’t have to work so hard at all once?
haughty coyote
I also agree with that, my internet is really fast, (the load times vary with wifi speed obviously) and whenever multiple people start changing avatars I crash
haughty coyote
Can quest users see rift users while rift users are using Avatars that can't be Seen on pc
Pls @me when your talking back becuse I will forget
plucky barn
What the FUCK is happening?
I got back on vr chat after awhile last night and I kept crashing, and now I can't even get ON vr chat. Like, it stops loading and crashes
plucky barn
So
they have a broken game and refse to fix it
what's the point in owning vr chat and having it, if they won't fix it when it has issues?
Like, even before quarantine Im stuck at home all the time, so vr chats my only way of like, somewhat actual human interaction physically. Its the closest I can get, and now I cant use it at all. So now I don't have ANY human contact besides my dad who I hardly see because of his job
I was on never have I ever and even PC people crashed and lagged, so is it legit everyone?
dusk bison
Idfk, but mine has been crashing on awful lot today as well.
tawdry wyvern
crash gang
obsidian zealot
You guys are talking about the native quest client right
woeful cypress
I think so.
At least thats what the channel is for. (Because link isn't vrchat on the Quest)
obsidian zealot
Uh, if you ask about link issues on other channels you just get Quest hate
hardy adder
I'm thinking of getting the quest link and I also know that when you have the link you need to download virtual desktop but where do you go from there to use the link for vrchat?
obsidian zealot
If you are getting the quest link you don’t need virtual desktop. Virtual desktop is for using your pc wireless without the cable
hardy adder
ooh ok so basically its just a matter of plugging in the link to a pc
obsidian zealot
You will need oculus home installed and running on your computer
Then it’s just connect it while the quest is turned on
hardy adder
ok thank you!
soft epoch
Getting quest next month!
Its kinda sad how little quest content there is but im gettin it
Not sure why people would hate quest when its even more expensive than rift
people keep saying that its gonna be epic once the oculus peeps get to it
also im sure that the devs on vr will work on making things more accessible for us
obsidian zealot
Quest and rift S are both 399
The quest client for VRChat is indeed very limited. If you have a vr capable PC you will defiantly get way more out of your quest, but even if that’s something you want in the future you won’t have to buy some other headset as well so you’ll have that going for you
haughty coyote
I think most of the quest hate is from people who've never actually used one. It's so much better than some elitists make it out to be
tawny lion
hola
obsidian zealot
Or they’ve used it but vrchat is the only native game they tried
Not dissing vrchat at all but it’s not exactly the best first impression of what all the quest can do in the right dev’s hands. It leaves the user thinking Quest is lower fidelity than it really is
Most people don’t understand that UGC games come at the cost of reduced or inconsistent graphics
The fact that vrc was on the quest at all is incredible. I just wish you didn’t constantly run into pc exclusive content
I can never join on my friends
Leaves me sour
dusk bison
I think they need to slower the loading times, I’m pretty sure the quest is just trying to load too much at once and that causes crashing/black screens. Hopefully they could make some kind of “smart loading” system
heady kestrel
Yeah, that might work.
tawdry wyvern
I think the quest would be better overall with the link. 70 fps, deeper black. that one perfect for people with not to powerful pc.
obsidian zealot
I could not play vrchat when I demoed the rift S so I can’t compare. I haven’t yet seen VRChat on a LCD headset. But yes, PC VRChat looks wonderful on Quest. Even over wireless. It’s now my go-to recommendation for anyone who wants to get into vr, pc or otherwise
I do wish it was rgb stripe instead of pentile, but have high tolerance for that
oak chasm
Has quest vrchat bugged out in the past like this? And if so, how long did it take to fix?
light solar
id get the oculus link if my pc ran windows 10 oof
blazing sparrow
If you have 7 or 8, just use the license key for that. If you have a mac, just deal with the barely noticeable watermark.
lusty vector
Welp, hope this patch fixes the login crash.
plucky barn
^^
abstract jay
Hello
dusk bison
The official quest v16 release notes were posted earlier today, maybe one you update it’ll fix it. I’m hoping the same for my beat saber.
lusty vector
Oh, didn't realize there was an update, I'll double check to see if it auto-updated or not or if it's even available yet
heady kestrel
Let's hope it works.
dusk bison
… seems like the vrchat update made itself a bit more laggy again
heady kestrel
Yeah, but it fixed the bug.
soft epoch
Is it true that the quest crashes a lot in vr?
elder pecan
Currently it can, but we're working on solving the causes of the crashes
lusty vector
still waiting on a Quest software update for v16, i'm on v15 and it still says no updates for some reason
soft epoch
I truly hope you figure something out. I bought it for VR Chat and now im kinda regretting my decision because I cant go to best saber world etc and avatars are limited. All that is fine but the crashing I hear about is alarming me since the device is even more expensive than the rift s @elder pecan 💖
haughty coyote
my arms disappear when they get near my face. how do i fix this?
lusty vector
@haughty coyote that's either a problem with the avatar or the personal space feature, open VRChat settings and disable personal space and see if it still happens
haughty coyote
@haughty coyote go to the NieR Automata world
The flowers
Set the world as your home
@haughty coyote y?
@lusty vector it wasn't happening before. started happening last night ):
It fixes the problem you have
alright
Tell me if it works though just in case
dusk bison
@heady kestrel which bug did they fix in the update?
heady kestrel
The constant crashing for me. I can actually play it now.
lusty vector
I still have the crashing issue upon logging in, I'm waiting for my Quest to actually let me do a software update.
heady kestrel
Hmm, uninstall it then reinstall it.
violet vigil
So can't go upstairs in the room of summer solitude anymore. Kinda stupid. Quest has gotten so screwed over ;w;
haughty coyote
Or the author of summer solitude is making it rougher for quest
tawdry wyvern
On my part. I do mistake when I upload map on both platform if they are not the same maybe its what happen with that one
signal pond
I've been still crashing at alot of little things that happen around me
slow patio
How do I get vrchat on my PC laptop
oak chasm
Steam
obsidian zealot
VRChat, 🅱️lease, Oculus Quest hand tracking
oak narwhal
With how the hand tracking works with the quest it wouldn't make sense for vrchat since you wouldn't be able to move around without controllers
oak chasm
I'd rather them work on making everything work stable first before they move on to hand tracking support
oak narwhal
^
dusk bison
I just hope someone on the vrchat team buys a quest so that they can test how the updates will go with it
obsidian zealot
@oak narwhal you just put the controllers down to use your hands. Quest automatically detects when both controllers are sitting on their rings and that’s when it looks for hands
turbid forge
Short question - I am trying to access some vrworld using the quest and every time after clicking the invite I am being thrown to the login world, anyone knows why it could be the case?
obsidian zealot
My assumption is that world has a broken quest version, I’m not sure if that’s the reason but that’s what I’ve been going with
turbid forge
The world need to have a quest version to work on quest? Doesn’t all worlds work?
How can I tell if a world is quest supported if I have the world link open in my PC?
mystic marlin
@soft epoch you can use the quest on your PC with link. So you get a wired plus wireless headset with quest. Much better than rift s. You made right decision
blazing sparrow
@obsidian zealot Hand tracking isn't allowed on official store apps yet. So it wouldn't exactly be possible.
obsidian zealot
well they can get it working ahead of time ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°
soft epoch
@mystic marlin i refunded it and going with rift after hearing about the crashing 😅💖
mystic marlin
@soft epoch but it wont crash when you use the PC version with quest
haughty coyote
It does for some still
mystic marlin
oh right
soft epoch
@mystic marlin too late now 💖
haughty coyote
Quest Link work well, but it sill a beta option and not 100% reliable
dusk bison
I give up on tryna play vrchat for today, I’m crashing every five minutes. They r e a l l y need to test updates for quest before releasing them.
autumn tinsel
+1 on quest crashing all the time
worldly rapids
Sorry to hear that, sounds dreadful. Hopefully a fix will come soon.
haughty coyote
anyone in the pavlov server
violet vigil
I really hope quest gets a little more love soon
autumn tinsel
I'm thinking it's a memory issue (mem leak?) because I constantly get kicked and get the low memory error
ebon plank
phew
dusk bison
Levi that happened to me once yesterday so maybe
hazy torrent
hello, i have just started getting the link to work with my quest but im not able to get on the Vrchat app yet, im just stuck on the loading screen, does anyone know how to fix this?
abstract jay
Hello. Anyone on vrchat with the quest?
halcyon swift
I mean that is literally what this channel is for so i would hope so :P
oak chasm
@hazy torrent are you trying to use the oculus link?
hazy torrent
@oak chasm yes
haughty coyote
I saw a couple of quest avatars with music, does anyone know how to do specially do it ?
oak chasm
Sounds like you are still trying to launch the quest version of vrchat. @hazy torrent
hazy torrent
Dont see how i can when i do it on the Oculus app
oak narwhal
Well if it's link I would assume you would have to open vrchat from steam but I've never played on link so I'm not really sure
velvet bluff
Hello, When i'm on vrchat my micro doesnt work, someone can help me please ? I already uninstall/install ; autorized the micro
elder pecan
@velvet bluff You need to give the app authorization to use your microphone, you probably denied it the first time
blazing sparrow
@velvet bluff Microphone also doesn't work when streaming to a device (e.g. Oculus app or Chromecast)
velvet bluff
@elder pecan i already did when i have uninstalled and reinstalled ; @blazing sparrow i'm not streaming btw
dusk bison
On the oculus home page go to settings and make sure your mic is on lol
Also restart ur quest if you haven’t already.
velvet bluff
Il already do all of that
lusty vector
Just updated my Quest to v16, even after both VRC and my Quest being fully updated along with previously doing a factory reset, VRChat still freezes upon logging in. I’m out of ideas.
dusk bison
Damn
elder pecan
@lusty vector Have you contacted the support yet ?
junior trail
VRC crashes minutes after joining a world for me
it also heats up my quest a lot too
lusty vector
Yes, I did a while ago. They say it's a problem with the 2020.1.1 update, but even with patch 3 it still doesn't work, so I guess I just have to wait for the next full update and hope (?)
haughty coyote
vrchat needs to fix the game for quest
i constantly black screen, crash and get sent home
haughty coyote
Due to the influence of the coronavirus, the quest is scheduled to arrive on June 1, but the quest may not be decided because the lift S is not decided. I thought the Chinese factory went down, will it be unavailable in the next few months?
potent knot
Why does my VRchat keep black screening
ember ferry
When I open vrchat it logs me in then freezes. I then have to restart my headset. Help?
haughty coyote
hi
potent knot
It’s been very buggy @ember ferry
potent knot
It is very annoying
wooden nova
does video players work for quest users?
blazing sparrow
no
dusk bison
Is loading worlds way slower than usual for anyone else?
swear on my yeezys if they don’t lower loading times or do whatever they need to do to stop the crashing ima throw hands
dusk bison
I’m literally crashing every 5 minutes in the vrchat hub smh
dusk bison
I’ve realized half of my time in vrchat was spent crashing/tryin to get back in the world I crashed out of
tawdry wyvern
I spend time with quest people in my church. they crash yes sometime. But in general it happen when someone change to a bad avatar or stay to long in front of mirror
dusk bison
it’s always people joining/switching avatars. I think the quest tries to load too much at once and screws itself over. They could make it load one avatar at a time instead of all at once, that would be a start.
obsidian zealot
They also don’t really stop excessive texture size
Avatar rank doesn’t care about it
dusk bison
Literally joining a world in general is practically a death sentence now lol
potent knot
I think it’s really full rooms that this happens because I can chill in a place alone and nothing happens
haughty coyote
imagine removing the vc's
atomic shard
Wait what?
austere island
is audio coming to quest ?
solar iris
Unofficially already works although this seems to be because of Unity 2018 handling Oculus audio rather than intended
golden lion
is it just me or does the game crash alot after the update?
elder pecan
We're working on this for the upcoming update
golden lion
awesome sauce
mint steeple
Has anyone else had any issues with their quest freezing when using the Link?
It will freeze in the headset but will still track on my monitor just fine
deep zinc
Is the ocelot quest a good headset?
woeful cypress
ocelot? 
Wether or not the Oculus Quest is a good headset for you depends on a few factors, but in general it's quite alright, you can use it on the go but also with a PC if you want to.
wintry bluff
You won’t be able to see most characters tho
woeful cypress
If you start out on quest and build your friend base and experience around it you're fine.
Looking from a pc back to a quest makes you very biased to "you wont be able to see my avatar" but if you start out on a quest and build your friendbase around that it's less of a issue.
vale pawn
What is better for nice tracking Not too expansive. And i have a Pc.
vale pawn
Sorry. Quest or Rift S ^^
deep zinc
thxx ❤️
potent knot
We are saved!!
dusk bison
Are seats fixed?
I noticed it said stabilized viewpoint of stations but I’m not good with the terminology
never mind the update was scuffed and now they’re fixing it lol
obsidian zealot
When connecting a Quest to a PC, you see everything - people often ignore that.
(in fact i have people telling me i'm lying and that i'm not REALLY on quest)
bronze moss
I need help to search for a decent pc to use htc vive my actual pc is with gt 1030 8gb ram i5 4th gen
blazing sparrow
@bronze moss sorta wrong channel... try #vrchat-general-2
azure mantle
@bronze moss first off, this channel is for Oculus Quest
RAM: eh, it's fine. just don't run anything else in the background
CPU: Mostly OK, but will definitely show it's age in heavier titles like Fallout 4 VR, No Man's Sky, Boneworks, Half-Life: Alyx, e.t.c...
GPU needs an upgrade, I would go with a GTX 1660 Super. they're relatively cheap and run basically everything.
And finally. Please don't get the original HTC Vive unless you HAVE to. HTC has discontinued it in favor of the unmistakably worse Vive Cosmos. Ending all support and semblance of warranty for it. As if there was any to begin with. And basically every headset out there is going to give you a better experience. (Except the Rift CV1 (the one with the USB camera things on the stands) where the cord will inevitably break and you will get scalped on Ebay for the full price of the headset just to get a replacement cable because Oculus sure ain't gonna get you one.
And once again, what @blazing sparrow said.
dusk bison
@haughty coyote The early clipping can be fixed by going to the nier automata flowers world
dusk bison
I recommend setting it as your home so you don’t have to there every time you wanna play without clipping
hollow bough
anyone having trouble join maps with other people?
blazing sparrow
Make sure you updowndate.
wheat bison
.-. my Vrat keeps lagging
blazing sparrow
They undid the update due to bugs.
dusk bison
I bet after it’s fixed it’ll be the same as usual. Hopefully I’m proved wrong and the “quest fixes” actually fix crashing and what not.
short trout
any recommendations for worlds where I can talk to people without experiencing much lag
short trout
thanks
shrewd nexus
Its possible to use steam vr with your oculus. Why anyone would ever use the oculus store is beyond me.
woeful cypress
Why is that beyond you?
The home version is absolutely normal and runs better then having to run both the home software and steam vr at the same time with oculus HMD's.
dusk bison
When is the quest update gonna be re released?
woeful cypress
Once they found out what ever broke the last patch 
jade solstice
when i have a friend whos playing steam vr chat without a headset, can i still invite him to my worlds/home?
woeful cypress
it's all the same server, doesnt matter if you use steam or oculus's version
jade solstice
Thank you!
dusk bison
hopefully they figure it out soon. I’m getting pretty tired of crashing and I’m excited to see what the new update will do about it.
I swear ima lose my mind I’ve been trying for the past 30 minutes just to get a single world and I always crash immediately or won’t even load in since it sends me back home
I Fr just got black screened by trying to load my friends menu in my optimized home world.
shrewd nexus
I'm pretty sure you don't have to run oculus home at all to use steam vr
woeful cypress
I still dont understand what your problem with it is? What do you not like about it? 
Oculus home and the Oculus home vrchat version work both great.
Do you have a Oculus? If you start SteamVR it'll also launch the home software. 
The Home software is for the Oculus devices what SteamVR is for the Vive and index, it's main home program and backend. 
heady kestrel
Hey y'all, I have a question. What is the best cord to use for Oculus, so you can hook it up to your computer?
woeful cypress
The "best" would be the original.
But other high quality non fibre ones likely work aswell.
heady kestrel
And how long is the link?
woeful cypress
original is 5m and uses fibre optical communication.
heady kestrel
Ah.
woeful cypress
Most of the higher quality normal cables do also work tho.
heady kestrel
Well, which one do you recommend?
proud ore
Hi I'm getting my quest tomorrow!!
dusk bison
I’ve heard anker ones are really good
haughty coyote
hoh damn. i can't even get my hands on a quest or rift s and had to settle with samsung odyssey
obtuse stump
I am using an 1.8m anker one together with an 5m active usb 3 extender. Works without a problem.
chilly flower
@heady kestrel the 10000 Anker packs are pretty compact and super cheap on Amazon, have had no issues with mine, gives me an extra 2-4 hours depending on what im playing uwu
austere island
We need audio !
tawdry wyvern
no
elder pecan
You shouldn't have 150k poly either
jagged trench
that's more than an entire OverWatch character actually that's more like 3 of them
obsidian zealot
For connecting a quest to a computer (to charge or put games on it) just use the cable it came with.
To play Pc vr games just buy the official link cable. Every third party one I’ve tried has been either poor connection or too heavy duty
Wasted so much money it would have been cheaper to buy the link cable right away
heady kestrel
Thank ya @chilly flower
hollow bough
I'm new to Unity how do I fix this?
blazing sparrow
If you're trying to use the VRChat SDK, that is definitely the wrong unity version. You need 2018.4.20f1 for VRChat.
pine drum
how is the quest in vr chat in 2020. can you see all the avatars and play all the mini games?
rough musk
Anyone want to join me In japari park
blazing sparrow
@pine drum no. You can't because the Quest basically speaks Japanese, and the PC speaks Spanish.
pine drum
?? what do you mean by that?
blazing sparrow
I mean that, unless content such as an avatar is made for quest, you can't see it on quest.
pine drum
what are the best vr headsets for vr chat then
haughty coyote
any headset
blazing sparrow
You can use a quest with pc
haughty coyote
^
pine drum
@blazing sparrow cause i bought a cable the is supost to connect the quest to the pc. is their a video on how i can get the actual vr chat on my quest contented to my pc?
blazing sparrow
You need a PC that supports VR, if you have that, you need the Oculus Software, then plug the quest into the pc and go from there.
You also need a GPU that supports the Quest Link.
pine drum
i think my pc is good for vr. i got my pc in September. how do i check? and what is a gpu
blazing sparrow
GPU is what draws the graphics.
If you have a Windows PC, you can do Win + R, then type "dxdiag", then click 'display'
If you have a Mac, I don't think it will work.
pine drum
i have windows for pc. what is win + R?
blazing sparrow
Windows key, plus the 'r' key.
pine drum
i dont see the display button. i dont have the headset yet. im waiting for that in the mail. do i need the headset to see if it is compatible with my computer
wait i see it now
what am i looking for in display?
blazing sparrow
under 'device', the first item is 'name', tell me what is says. @pine drum
blazing sparrow
That's supported.
pine drum
thank you <#
❤️
hope to see you in vr chat. im getting it on star wars day. may the 4th be with you
barren pasture
gamer moment
woeful cypress
Don't forget that the cpu is also very important.
blazing sparrow
But judging from the GPU, they probably have a supported CPU
woeful cypress
I'd be careful with that assumption
I have seen 2080ti's paired with FX's 
And quest needs a little bit more resources to my.
Just to make sure, what cpu do you have? @pine drum
dusk bison
I hAvE a 7tH gEn CoRe i3 WiLl ThAt WoRk
woeful cypress
The answer to that sarcastic questions is: Depending on how many slides you need each minute.
pine drum
@woeful cypress how do I find that? I’m not good with computer
woeful cypress
Same program, but the first page (System)
pine drum
pine drum
Is that what your looking for
pine drum
thank you ❤️
tawny holly
does anyone have any good recommendations for a quest link cable besides the one oculus has? just ordered a quest and in wanna make sure i get one that works
dusk bison
anker has good durable cables
tawny holly
any links? because most of the anker ones are out of stock 😕
wary solar
Will market place 4 be available on the quest
elder pecan
It will not be
dusk bison
yeah it’s wayyyy too much for us
haughty coyote
Any reason for the game to keep crashing so much?
dusk bison
Might be a memory leak since usually when I crash and get sent back home it just says my device is out of storage
haughty coyote
So delete some things off my quest?
blazing sparrow
no, RAM storage.
dusk bison
Nah don’t need to delete anything @haughty coyote I have 20 gigabytes free and it still does it lol
haughty coyote
It’s still crashing everytime I load into something. How can I fix this?
blazing sparrow
no
dusk bison
Maybe check if there are updates for the game
It could be you’re trying to join into someone with a different version than you
steel fiber
I Wonder When Quest Is Getting Dynamic Bones
blazing sparrow
no
steel fiber
Vrchat Was Good Only A Few Crashes But After The Update I Crash Every Few Minutes And I Think Im Going to Have To Stop Playing Because Its Annoying Having To Restart Vrchat Over And Over Again
blazing sparrow
I think I don't like reading you messages because you capitalised every word.
blazing sparrow
Yeah.
steel fiber
Lol
blazing sparrow
works great
blazing sparrow
That could get you a warn for bypassing the bot tho
golden lion
new update! still crashes little to much XD
blazing sparrow
That is probably a downgrade you downloaded.
manic notch
Hey guys, I’ve had the acer mixed reality headset and I’ve been thinking about getting an upgrade to my headset recently. I don’t really want to spend $1000 on the Valve Index, so I’ve been considering oculus’ options. The Quest with the link cable seems like a great choice from what I’ve heard. The higher resolution and hand tracking seem pretty cool, but I’m a little worried with both the lower refresh rate and the delay there may be
What are your opinions on the quest, and is it worth getting?
dusk bison
Personally I’d save up for an index, quest is nice if you’re really on a budget
woeful cypress
Quest with link is nice, but if you are pc bound rift s also exists.
manic notch
I like the idea of knowing I would have the ability to play games without a PC but the thing is I don't know how often I would actually use it without a PC
dusk bison
If you make a pulley system for the wire or hell even just let the wire rest behind you I don’t think you’ll even notice it.
That’s just my opinion though, whenever I play while my quest is charging I don’t notice the wire.
manic notch
The wire doesn’t really bother me to be honest
dusk bison
In that case I would get a dedicated pcvr headset
From what I hear vives aren’t rly that good anymore compared to everything else
jade solstice
Is it just me that is crashing and blackscreening every half an hour or so?
elder pecan
Yes, that's the current issue with quest and the next update should resolve most of it.
jade solstice
All right, thank you a lot! I thought there is something wrong with my quest but I'm glad its not
hollow bough
I’m planning to buy a AMD motherboard that is vr ready for quest link. Any ideas on which is best or recommended?
worn hedge
cant wait til vrchat supports the quests handtracking ability
alpine garnet
At least y’all can log on. I can’t even get passed the loading screen without it crashing.
haughty coyote
VRC + hand tracking is gonna be hard for VRC controls in general.
manic notch
I tried my brother's index which came today and to be honest I wasn't blown away by it
like it was definitely better than my mr headset
manic notch
I was thinking about virtual desktop on quest
would you not get better results if you made a hotspot on your computer?
haughty coyote
Sucks when on quest it randomly crashes
golden lion
indeed, keeps happening to me. oof
I feel like quest users are treat poorly, mainly cuz theres more PC Avatar models then VR models, (no offense of course)
worldly rapids
I think they put out a fix just recently for Quest that broke quite a few things so they did a roll back. I believe they're trying.
golden lion
I hear ya there mate 😛
south wedge
Common issue for quest vrchat. (Voice stuttering, blackscreen, seeing frozen group of people at once and crash)
Yes im in quest vr but in pc version using virtual desktop app with vive body tracking
brittle kernel
do you guys have trouble with the hand tracking to?
after the last update
i do like the new menu from the last update
much easier to use
lusty vector
yes, it does slightly feel like quest users are neglected, but you kind of have to understand from a hardware standpoint that the Quest doesn’t have the greatest performance for high-quality stuff
so that makes it harder to develop things like avatars for it that don’t cause a lot of issues
thin ridge
Can I use Occulus Link to have it work as normal VR?
blazing sparrow
yes
thin ridge
cool
woeful cypress
That's the point of link.
thin ridge
where is the link?
woeful cypress
Oculus link, not a link link
golden lion
one day we wont seem like second class 😛
haughty coyote
Hey guys I have a VR ready pc should I get a quest with a link or just get a rift s?
worldly rapids
If you only plan on using PC and never Quest mode I'd guess the S since it's more easy to obtain last I checked.
languid condor
Hey guys I have a VR ready pc should I get a quest with a link or just get a rift s?
@haughty coyote quest is nice but very front heavy
Rift S doesn’t have the mobility but lighter and better for long term use
languid condor
Yes I have a quest
haughty coyote
Because does it make it like a rift s when you link it
leaden glen
Forget about all that and save for the index.
haughty coyote
I don’t want to put up the sensors
languid condor
Pretty much. There is a bit of difference but not that much. For VRChat it doesn’t really matter
leaden glen
rift s then
languid condor
I have Rift, Quest and Index
worldly rapids
I imagine no sensors has got to be amazing
languid condor
Quest experience is fine with Link.
Like I said, front heavy. There are ways to get around that but bulky. If you are planning to only do PC VR, get the Rift S
If you are planning to go mobile sometimes, Quest is good.
I’ve done mile high Quest club before
VR in a plane
haughty coyote
😳
obtuse stump
The thing that is missing though on rift s is IPD adjustment. I got an unusual large IPD and am thankful that I can tune it on quest .
So in the case you have unusual IPD, Quest might be a better choice.
haughty coyote
Ok thanks for the help
languid condor
True for IPD
haughty coyote
Also I see quest users talking about how they feel like are neglected
sinful atlas
worldly rapids
Was a stability fix, so you should crash less. Has nothing to do with avatars you can see and can't see because that's an issue of two separate platforms.
lusty vector
crash upon logging in issue still isn’t fixed for me sadly
I’m gonna guess that I’m probably going to continue having this issue until the next major update :/
mystic marlin
@lusty vector did you try reinstalling?
lusty vector
I’ve actually had to do a full factory reset because of an issue and the problem persists
dusk forge
Is the new quest update helping the game play at all and did it actually reduce the amount of times you can crash within 30 minutes?
worldly rapids
That's the goal
dusk forge
So the new quest vrchat update didn't help reduce that. Nice
worldly rapids
That's unfortunate 😔
worldly rapids
Ah, I don't use Quest so I'm not sure if the update built to fix the issues actually fixed it.
alpine garnet
Anyone having trouble logging in still? I saw the update and got excited and still can’t freakin log in.
lusty vector
@alpine garnet do you have the same issue as me where after the logging in panel disappears the game freezes immediately?
alpine garnet
@lusty vector yes!!!
lusty vector
yeah, I’ve had this issue for at least a month and it hasn’t been fixed yet sadly
as I stated earlier I think this might be an issue until the next major update but who knows, it could get fixed in a patch
i hope it does
alpine garnet
@lusty vector ugh.. I got so excited when I got the notif that there was an update too.. I literally just got the quest with VRChat in mind and that was my first experience.
I seriously hope it’s fixed sooner than later. Wanna experience it! In the mean time I’m waiting for my cable to come in soon.
To attempt using it with my computer
lusty vector
yeah, VRC isn’t the best experience when playing on the native Quest version sadly
but using the PC version with Oculus Link as I presume you’re planning to do works fine
alpine garnet
So I’ve heard. /: thank you for responding! Hopefully we get something sooner than later, especially now of all times haha.
lusty vector
yeah
lethal venture
I started seeing a ton of bugs on my screen when I loaded up vrc after the update
has anyone gotten theses?
wide mauve
Does anybody know of a Master Hand avatar that can be used on Oculus Quest? I'm kind of a big Super Smash Bros. fan and would like to use something like it. I found this video of a Master Hand avatar but never was able to find something similar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BZYobjB3gw&t=77s (Sorry they kind of swear a lot in the video)
low mist
dusk bison
Just tap the power button two times so you’ll quest will go into rest mode then back out. That fixes it when I get black flashing squares on other games.
jade solstice
So
My game runs with like 13 fps since the update
This is not fun
@alpine garnet what cable did you buy? the original?
dusk bison
The update seems to lag more when people are changing or when people join but it seems less crashy
I’d rather lag when someone changes than crash though so it’s not all bad.
lusty vector
interesting
obtuse stump
I noticed the same. Less crashes but bit more lag. All in all I think it's an improvement. Thanks vrchat team.
mystic marlin
For best results like any buggy game is to restart quest before playing to clear out memory
dusk bison
Generally just try to stick to one avatar and it’s a lot better. I’m impressed they managed to improve it while keeping the same load times. They did a pretty good job.
heady kestrel
Damn.
I still can't get in it.
When the game tries to load in the general log in screen, it decides to freeze forever.
elder pecan
Try contacting the support @heady kestrel
heady kestrel
👍
dusk forge
They managed to fix the crashing for the quest!!! Best update EVER
stark flint
Hi :)
Lately I have problems with the Sensor touch of the Oculus Rift, without touching anything the animations are automatically
Anyone having the same problem? and how can it be solved
dusk bison
@stark flint I get the same issue on the quest sometimes. Just take the battery out and put it back in.
stark flint
The problem would not be sensitivity?
Why the battery?😅
proud ore
For quest should I not show avatar for everyone in the room to avoid crashing?
Nvm my question was answered in another group
obsidian zealot
I use quest and virtual desktop, rather than a link cable. I like playing the Pc version wirelessly
The native quest app is just too sad
barren belfry
Anyone else having problems with the SDK not uploading avatars after the first upload?
using VRCSDK2-2020.04.25.12.49
like, it uploaded fine for pc, but wont for quest, even though its cleared and it goes into the future proofing phase, than cuts out and nothing happens
and when I checked the console, I got this
it uploaded fine for pc
obsidian zealot
Does it meet the Quest performance standards? Quest has tighter requirements.
elder pecan
@barren belfry This is a god awful avatar for the quest
obsidian zealot
I doubt a quest rendered that
elder pecan
You shouldn't be using something like that, for yourself and others, this is terrible
barren belfry
alright, ill look for something new
elder pecan
You're less performant than 50 of the avatars in the public row combined
obsidian zealot
“That’s an awful avatar for quest”
That’s a awful avatar for Pc 👀
elder pecan
yeah
obsidian zealot
Ok at the risk of being too mean; a lot of people don’t even own a quest and just try to upload a quest build “so everyone can see them” not realizing they are making themselves a quest user crasher if the person chooses to unhide their blocked avatar
Get the avatar down to at least 10ktris, and join textures so it’s 1 material. Hen scale the material down to 1024^2. Smaller if you can manage. Cropping out unused part of the auto-atlas helps
You also have the model split into two meshes, join them for free optimization
Quest where?
elder pecan
Yeah we're fully aware there's a lot of misunderstanding around this, we'll make it easier to understand over time
obsidian zealot
Not quite; all content is compatable with VR. The ones indicated by quest are also compatable with the Quest VR headset. It’s a portable, PC-less headset with its own CPU.
Since it’s a mobile platform content needs to have alternate versions that are lighter Fidelity. Pc and PcVR users will still see the full quality versions.
Yes
mystic marlin
Regarding earlier question what's the optimal settings to keep quest at optimal performance. Normal. No particles or what?
Also what does enable colliders mean?
barren belfry
Basically, dont even think about using anything that looks better than a ps2 model
woeful cypress
Wrong
If you're good, quest models can look really well
If you're lazy and expect any automatic decimation to do it nice for you, then ofc it wont.
haughty coyote
Today has sucked for me in quest. I cant join any friends because any time I try the loading will start and then it will stop before its finished
obsidian zealot
The ballpark for Quest models is 5000 triangles. 7500 and below will be visible on even the strictest settings.
So more in line with Gamecube than PS1. /shrug
Decimated models are very wasteful. That’s why they say 5000 is too limiting or that they look bad. You can go very far with 5000. It just takes actual modeling not just chopping up some MMd model to fit under a number.
jagged trench
yeah the decimating modifier is way too dumb to spit out anything good honestly you might get better results with Edge Loop dissolving
alpine garnet
@jade solstice I bought the Anker cable off amazon. Apparently works great with the quest according to reviews.
jade solstice
I also bought the Anker Cable and it didn't work for me and I was like nooooo the cable is broken but then I realized, like the Idiot I am, that i don't have usb 3.0 ports
now i bought a Usb 3.0 portcard that you can just clip in to the mainboard
blazing sparrow
But, computers draw triangles.
obsidian zealot
Look how they triangulated my boy
Yeah I really just internally say ok the limit is 2500 quads
jagged trench
yeah but you couldn't save a decent amount of triangles using triangles at this low of a polygon count
thin ridge
any recommendation on Occulus Quest PC connection cable?
woeful cypress
Official is ofc always the best, but else most high quality ones work, like the ANKER cables or others with similar quality
Make sure to not overdo it with lenght tho.
woeful cypress
that's only 3 Meters. The official one is 5m i belive (And the official one does use fibre) 3m is propably a bit short for VR.
thin ridge
thanks for the tip
obsidian zealot
My recommendation for a link cable: don’t get one unless it has a 90 degree bend on the USBC side.
The ones that don’t have the bend feel very annoying
Go lightweight don’t get the thick braided ones they feel heavy and tug on one side of your head
I hate my anker one so much
woeful cypress
A solid and strong cable is better then one that breaks in a week tho
obsidian zealot
So can we get hand tracking like this in VRC https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/gbm0gj/i_made_an_experiment_to_deal_with_occlusion/
dusk bison
How would you walk with hand tracking?
blazing sparrow
^ this is the only way to do it
jagged trench
or have virtual buttons that you need to push with your finger that would be vastly inefficient compared to actual buttons
echo jolt
One message removed from a suspended account.
haughty coyote
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last trout
I’ve been having trouble with the oculus quest and vr chat the last couple of days. Some avatars that i choose on avatr worlds never load, and some maps get their loadings stuck at specific percentage that doesn’t change (if it’s 56.3% on a map, each time ill try to join it it will get stuck at 56.3). I tried reinstalling as well as clearling my cache data. Any idea ?
elder pecan
@last trout Worth contacting the support for specific issues like those
last trout
Ok thanks
broken oasis
im having the same issue
haughty coyote
Yeah that issue is pretty much the meta now
austere island
is there way to get particle force field to work on avatar ?
median monolith
hey im not on quest now bye
manic notch
Got my quest yesterday
Works really good
I sideloaded Pokemon VR and Pavlov and noticed they were apk files, so would it be possible to just run it on a regular android phone?
(Of course probably not with VR support, but just wondering if it would run)
cloud shard
the tech inside the quest is basically an android phone (just maybe taken apart) so in theory i guess so...
haughty coyote
VR chat is just so limited on the quest
daring lion
potent anchor
rift s is good when you have a good pc
obsidian zealot
Quest on VRChat is great if you have a computer. Superior to. Rift S in my opinion since you can go wireless
Everyone always repeats “quest VRChat is so limited” not realizing it can play the pc version... and see Pc models
And had same resolution as vive pro. But shrug sure go get a rift s instead lol
cloud shard
if you have a PC and dont plan on wireless, dont go quest
if you even think cable management might be an issue or dont have the pc to back it go quest XD
dusk forge
Hmm why would they bring this new update for quest when we can't even use the video players? Unless that new system has a way for them to allow us to use the help of the oculus quest browser to watch videos which i sorta do doubt but ya know
dusk forge
How would we move?
dusk fiber
Idk
How would other plays that actually have band tracking move
Probably would work the same way I guess
bronze glade
index has thumbsticks lol
quest hand tracking wont be coming to vrchat
alsso @obsidian zealot running wireless with good latency is not that easy. I cant pull it off. And the quest doesnt have better resolution than the vive pro, and it has a lower refresh rate.
obsidian zealot
I’m gonna pull a pro gamer move and say anything above 60hz looks the same to me. Resolution is all I care about
bronze glade
than its still worse than index or vive pro, and again getting wireless to work well is really a gamble that not every wants to deal with.
haughty coyote
Just use virtual desktop
final karma
Anybody here have any info about quest friendly vrchat worlds for actual in depth chat? I really want to make vrchat friends, but most people just seem to be goofing off.
river monolith
hello
dusk bison
Pardon my language but why the everliving f**k did they get rid of audio
It. Wasn’t. Laggy.
Audio gave us a taste of what vrchat is supposed to be like. We barely get anything on the quest version compared to how pc is. Audio wasn’t laggy at all. You may be thinking “oh what about moonman”. That was laggy because of all of the mesh particles. I mean cmon.
I’ve seen avatars with lights, rigidbodies, fixed joints, colliders, and audio sources on quest. And guess what, not a single frame lost. I’ve done extensive testing with these kinds of avatars too and it’s the same story.
Now I’m just waiting for the 5k poly limit to come and make the game even worse.
Sorry but I’m just pissed that they did this. It just feels so unreasonable. That was it, that was our chance at having the line between quest and pc blurred more like we need. And now it’s gone.
worldly rapids
I understand why you're angry but audio for avatars on Quest was never officially supported so I'm not sure why you didn't see this coming
dusk bison
There is an option in safety settings to have audio on or off. Hopefully they officially add it someday, it should’ve been to begin with.
worldly rapids
I agree
I never really stopped to think how cool it must've been for Quest users to hear audio since you're constantly slammed with it on the PC build to the point where you have to keep hiding animations. Lol
violet lodge
Might wanna be careful with that, that's a fast way of getting banned here since it's against the discord rules
worldly rapids
I think protesting in here might be the issue, I could be wrong but I'd imagine it's an issue
blazing sparrow
According to google: uproar, rampage, furore, tumult, commotion, upheaval, disturbance, row, scuffle, etc...
Lots of options
worldly rapids
Just make it your quest avatar. Lol
dusk bison
Ngl the rules for this server are wack. I’ve been warned once for trying to help someone find an avatar by mentioning apparently the forbidden website, and now for this
elder pecan
Yeah you can read them to make sure you don't break them
Should have probably done that first tho
dusk bison
I did, I forget sometimes though because of what they are.
I mean the website is well moderated.
Obviously I prefer to not be banned from this server but if I do get banned for accidentally breaking one of the weird rules I won’t mind
elder pecan
Those are pretty standard rules
elder pecan
Yeah, it's blacklisted for good reasons, people can tell you all about them. Now that you know it's alright
dusk bison
Can you tell me about them? I don’t think anyone else is gonna lol
I don’t know if anyone but the creators of the rule know tbh
Nvm someone told me, I understand now
There are still things on the website that are okay though. oh well, I understand the reasons.
tawdry marlin
Is anyone else having problems when you load up vrchat and the screen rapidly flickers to the point where it’s unplayable
dusk bison
Just press the power button twice to go into rest mode then back out.
haughty coyote
my quest is not working
elder pecan
@haughty coyote #vrchat-support
haughty coyote
ok
dusk bison
Hey ruuubick, why did y’all get rid of audio? I’m curious.
elder pecan
Get rid how ?
If there were audio sources on quest avatars even though the SDK was preventing it, then it wasn't meant to be there in the first place ?
dusk bison
True, it became a norm for a little while so sorry for that wording lol. However, there is the option in safety settings to have avatar audio on or off, will it ever be officially added?
elder pecan
I think that was just due to the safety settings being that way before Quest, it wasn't changed to fit the platform, i don't think there is any current plan to officially support audio on quest, there might be in the future, but that's doubtful due to their performance impact
dusk bison
I never noticed any performance issues when it was able to be on avatars.
I was seeing lobbies full of audio avatars and it was fine
bronze glade
it does affect performance and can be used maliciously. Thats why its not allowed on the quest
elder pecan
It's not that kind of performance, it's the audio decompressing that is an issue
dusk bison
How so?
elder pecan
and that makes quest much more likely to crash in some situations
Feel free to read the engineering guidelines
dusk bison
Thankfully the update not too long ago made the quest way less prone to crashes, but “Audio is crucial for creating a persuasive VR experience. “
elder pecan
not that kind of audio you find on most avatars lol
bronze glade
I’ve seen avatars with lights, rigidbodies, fixed joints, colliders, and audio sources on quest. And guess what, not a single frame lost. I’ve done extensive testing with these kinds of avatars too and it’s the same story.
@dusk bison also this. This is just not true. Asingle avatar might not affect your performance that much but it would be as hard to run as 4 or 5 avatars. so if you allow sThingss like that, they will add up and the quest would crash and run even worse
elder pecan
they mean environment audio
dusk bison
@bronze glade it’s true, also with what you said earlier about audio being able to be used maliciously. I mean yeah.. but so can literally every other thing on avatars, like particle systems or even the avatar itself.
still veldt
Audio on avatars is cool, for sure
Nobody is going to deny that
Reminder that I'm not a dev, but my understanding is that audio sources are very expensive
dusk bison
That’s what’s always said but it never seems like it
still veldt
Quest can have issues with audio just by being in a room with a bunch of people, since voice comes from audio sources
bronze glade
again. Limiting the thing that can be used maliciously is a good thing dont you think? And no. What you said isnt true, that is not how computers work.
still veldt
hence, why audio will crackle randomly
dusk bison
I’ve said this before but even just limiting the avatar audio source limit to one should be fine
bronze glade
not really
dusk bison
Elaborate
bronze glade
did you read the documentation??
still veldt
Maybe, but that effectively doubles the amount
Every user is already one audio source, and that is enough to cause crackly audio when the processor can't keep up
dusk bison
I only noticed crackling at 17+ people
elder pecan
so with one per person it'd be 8 people
still veldt
Now give everyone an extra source and it'll start happening at 8, yeah
Just a thought
still veldt
Yeah, that's assuming the worst, but with the way avatar performance goes it's not super unreasonable
dusk bison
It’s almost like the glitch to put audio in was a good thing cuz then not that many people had sources lmao
The glitch was under the radar but the public audio avatars weren’t lol
elder pecan
If they could, they would ! But the quest is not meant to be an equivalent to PC, treating it as such is just making yourself angry for no reason, it's better to accept the fact that quest is a mobile platform. It will never be able to do what a PC can
bronze glade
even a single audio source decompressing can still cause issues and most likely will from what Ruubick said
elder pecan
Limitations are there for very good reasons, making content within those guidelines will make you a much better creator too
dusk bison
Definitely, the quest is just a phone with head straps lol
elder pecan
Pretty much
dusk bison
I do feel like the quest could have more though, the limits feel extreme sometimes
elder pecan
Have you thought about getting a quest link cable ?
dusk bison
I don’t have a good enough pc for one
I have a core i3 lol
Once quarantine is over I plan on getting a job again so I can continue saving up for a pc
I just want to play vrchat how it’s meant to be played. Y’know, with audio, lights, colliders, all the good stuff.
bronze glade
thats not really what the game wass meant for
still veldt
I can say with confidence that we want Quest to be able to do as much as possible
It's also really tricky, since there are so many limitations
bronze glade
- like every sane person has all of that turned off on pc for non friends anyways
dusk bison
@bronze glade I’m not saying that defines what the game was meant for, it just makes the experience so much better.
bronze glade
ehh. I personally like talking to people, not getting my ears blown off by shitty soundcloud rap
dusk bison
I mean yeah but gunshot sound effects, functioning flashlights, or even a flashlight click to go along with it are very nice
Not everyone wants to use it to be annoying
bronze glade
the only thing I wish that was on teh quest is dynamic bones, thats about it
dusk bison
dynamic bones would fry quest
marble marsh
Dynamic bones are way too performance heavy on the CPU
bronze glade
I am aware
you say not everyone wants to be annoying but you know that thats what 90% of those are on pc so its hardly a good trade off
dusk bison
I still think audio should be allowed on quest. I mean pc has lots of avatars that are poor performance because of all of these annoying features on the avatar but that’s why safety settings exist. I feel like we should be given the freedom to choose if we want to have a tiny bit more of a risk for crashing or not.
No risk no reward I guess. If you think you’re gonna lag or crash because of audio sources hide avatar exists.
haughty coyote
Daaaamn so thats why my audio crackles with those annoying audio avatars
dusk bison
They’re all gone now
haughty coyote
Like all Audio? Hades, Yours, Grim's?
dusk bison
Ye
haughty coyote
Damnnnnn
dusk bison
I think it would be nice if we had the option for audio because if the audio bothers people they can just turn it off in settings lol
haughty coyote
Indubitably
dusk bison
Honestly it would be nice to have colliders as well since I’m pretty sure they only effect the user of them but I don’t wanna ask for too much
haughty coyote
jojosfries actually unintentionally uploaded avatars on his world that have dynamic bones
Dunno if the new update fixed them or not
And there are very few
haughty coyote
Yes
dusk bison
Ima need to check that out nice
pastel stirrup
wait audio as in the thing where people would play background sound just from their avatar has been entirely removed?
dusk bison
How does it do in performance terms?
dusk bison
I’ll check it out
haughty coyote
It functions like Audio though, it disappears if you change out of it
pastel stirrup
(...I do think the game's audio management isn't the greatest, and I would like to see them improve the dynamic range management of different players)
haughty coyote
Audio is already crackling for people
pastel stirrup
what's the easiest way to meet up with a friend who has a quest and who is brand new to vrchat? should I share my username and they friend me by name somehow? is there a way to send vrchat links to oculus quest?
cosmic lintel
You can search in the social tab for people! So ye you could search for their username and shoot a friend request, or the other way around! You can also do it on the website by searching the username too. (And they can be accepted from the website too)
pastel stirrup
ahhh
nice, okay, that makes things much easier than what I did with my partner in the same room last night 😅 we hunted for each other in public worlds, repeatedly miscommunicating about which one we were in, until finally picking one with few enough users at the right time xD
cosmic lintel
Oooo yeah i remember doin that once. Not easy
sacred hemlock
Hey quick question on the quest will there ever be an update for compatibility for hand tracking because if any game who’s looks like it would work really well for its vrchat issue with the software or is it stability?
haughty coyote
Wouldn't avatars suddenly have to have "handtracking"
sacred hemlock
Good point
austere island
why did you remove the audio ??
pastel stirrup
avatars already have hand tracking though, it's just tracking controllers and not actual hands
it would be upgraded hand tracking
via tracking hands directly ;)
cloud shard
i really dont see the logic of 'I want audio so on behalf of every user, please make us crash more again'
because i certainly don't miss audio at all
dusk bison
It doesn’t crash. Sounds like you have bad experiences with moonman lol
cloud shard
I feel like we should be given the freedom to choose if we want to have a tiny bit more of a risk for crashing or not.
dusk bison
keywords “tiny bit more of a risk”
I personally have NEVER crashed when using an avatar that had audio
Nor have I gotten the audio popping
cloud shard
same, but given they recently added a patch that stopped crashes for many users but instead increased lag i really dont want to find out what happens if iveryone now gets audio easily on top of that
and yes thats lag with full saftey settings too
tough sonnet
guys i have a problem anyones know why VRchat crash me instantly i open it?
tough sonnet
but i open it and instantly crash i didnt enter in a world
cloud shard
ive noticed it can be laggy on your own too, but im pretty sure even just me and 2 others was laggier than it was with more people before the patch
tough sonnet
oh
blazing sparrow
Also... that is WINDOWS... and this is the wrong channel.
dusk bison
Yeah lol
small cargo
soo, yea, they removed audio from quest that was the one thing that was giving people hope that quest experience will get closer to pc and making memes possible. 1st the fucked up the update with crashing then the try to fix it with limited memory usage and now instead of reducing the polygon limit the remove the audio
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blazing sparrow
proceeds to turn off avatar cloning.
cloud shard
i have it off already unless someone asks
manic notch
lol I thought someone was going to say that
I haven't actually tried it on the quest yet, and to be honest, I haven't played in a little while
I got quest version an hour or two ago
cloud shard
ooh nice
word of warning : dont compare it to something like an index
its very fun for what it is, but if you compare it to PCVR then you wont like it
manic notch
my brother has an index and got it less than a week before I got the quest
I tried it and I thought "yeah, it's cool, definitely better than my Acer MR headset" but didn't think too much of it after
I got a link cable anyway and I'm satisfied with how it works
cloud shard
im not saying that quest is bad, its super duper fun but yeah if youre looking for hyper immersion PCVR
dusk forge
Yooo why did y'all take our favorite avatar audio away!!!!
bronze glade
because it causes issues and was never suppose to be on the quest in the first place
dusk bison
It really doesn’t cause that many issues man
cloud shard
49 comes before 58...
bronze glade
what do you mean? thats how numbers work
not gonna lie, after what you just said. You telling me that audio doesnt cause issues holds little weight now
dusk bison
I haven’t slept for two days nvm
Read it differently, I have low brightness and blurry eyes lol
bronze glade
I had a good laugh its fine
dusk bison
Haha yea
I completely understand if what I said carries little weight now, but I did testing with it for days (at least when it was still a thing) for the exact reason that I was worried about how it would effect performance.
You can trust what I say, I despise people who say things that they hear rather than seeing it for themselves.
haughty coyote
i mean legit we seem to still lag more even when will pull out our damn menu
haughty coyote
i don't get lag when i pull out my menu
for me it still little bit laggy
it just sucks cause i made a funny sakura avatar witch you probably seen lmao
haughty coyote
@frail pasture
frail pasture
:p
river thunder
did the update get rid of avatar emote sounds?
worldly rapids
Yes
small cargo
Dont just mention it maybe say ur opinions about that nice thing beeing taken again
worldly rapids
If you're talking about me I don't play on Quest
heady cedar
Can you play the steam version of VRChat with the Quest and Oculus link?
cloud shard
yep
obsidian zealot
Making quest avatars is fun.. making quest worlds is not
Maybe I just need a better work flow but I end up making things with unity meshes, joining and atlasing in blender, then reinporting back to unity
Very time consuming
elder pecan
Make stuff in blender ?
obsidian zealot
if only I could quickly jump into a blender scene in vr like I can with SDK. I love how fast I can iterate and test in unity. I need to see things in vr to get sizes right
When blender vr support
main cedar
Exporting fbx or saving blender file in Unity's folder doesn't take that long though, it's like 2 seconds of freeze after saving and it's updated, you are ready to go
elder pecan
@obsidian zealot It does in the next update
obsidian zealot
I should start doing that, just saving the blender file in the project
barren trellis
Hey new here and new to vrchat stuff. Stopping by to say hey before I go and maybe meet some people to become friends later. Of course I have a quest
dusk bison
Have fun
haughty coyote
Hey, guys, quick question. I’m thinking about getting on vr chat again but I need to know if it stopped crashing as much for you guys.
elder pecan
If you get the last update you should barely encounter any crash
haughty coyote
Awesome! Thanks so much!
cloud shard
(It’s kinda laggy at times though)
dusk bison
More lag less crash. Only laggy when changing avatars or when someone joins tho so it’s fine.
haughty coyote
can someone help my quest is stuck on the loading dots
lusty vector
hold the power button and restart it
actually
just try pressing the oculus button
haughty coyote
i can't
lusty vector
try going into the power menu (hold the power button) then press cancel and spam the oculus button a few times
if that doesn't work just restart
haughty coyote
nope
lusty vector
welp just restart then
haughty coyote
i cant press anything
lusty vector
try force shut down by holding the power button until you see Shutting down...?
astral turtle
is there any way a quest user can see all avatars and join every world?
lusty vector
the only way to do that would be using Oculus Link (which would require you to use it with your computer), otherwise VRC is using the Quest's hardware which for VRC has specific requirements, if the world or avatar doesn't meet the requirements the SDK won't let the creator upload a Quest version for it
haughty coyote
It sometimes makes my headset restart when the game freezes
covert iris
-0-
bronze glade
can you people stop with spamming this chat with this image?
dusk bison
Idk about u but I noticed when the all the things you could glitch in were still there I never lagged any more because of it.
main cedar
@past isle
the avatars with
are crashing the game not the Audio
Very poor avatars are not being shown on the Quest by any means unless you specifically click "Show avatar" on specific player using it
dusk bison
Thankfully nothing is really crashing anymore, and it only lags when loading avatars.