What does api stand for, btw?
#avatar-quest
pastel storm
violet steeple
app program interface
pastel storm
How do you pay for avatar commissions?
pastel storm
spiral hollow
How do you pay for avatar commissions?
Depends on the person it could be on there website or it could be venmo/paypal
open yarrow
does anyone know where to find avatars from the series black butler/kuroshitsuji?
runic willow
@open yarrow good luck, if you aren't pc most dont want to help because we are quest.
And most see quest users as a bunch of kids (we aren't), when many of them are a bunch of kids with rich parents, or 20yos living in their parents basement. I have asked many times on here for help, and only ever gotten one reply ever.
frail birch
unnecessary comment
there's just less people looking over these sections
less people = less chance of that one guy knowing that one map with that one avatar whoever has requested wanted.
open yarrow
true
hushed cliff
Does anyone know if these are on quest or just pc
floral dawn
Probably only pc and also Private models
hushed cliff
Damn
pastel storm
everyone stop. this is for MAKING avis. searching for em goes in #avatar-search-old
cerulean yarrow
People have managed to upload avatars greater than 10mb. I'm trying to make one for my bf but I can't get it under the 10mb limit, how are they bypassing it?
violet steeple
People have managed to upload avatars greater than 10mb. I'm trying to make one ...
youre not supposed to but if you had one of the recent openbeta avatar sdks, there was a point where you could bypass it. but avatars with beyond 10mb will only show locally or to those who have worn the avatars themselves
quasi spear
People have managed to upload avatars greater than 10mb. I'm trying to make one ...
One way to help cut down on file size is to compress your textures. There are websites (such as TinyPNG or something similar) where you can upload an image, it will compress it, and let you download the compressed image. Cut my texture files sizes in half
frail birch
Crunch compression
Texture file in unity -> quality normal -> enable crunch compression
Enjoy the gainz
Lower the resolution if that isn't enough
violet steeple
override format. and use astc crunched
pastel storm
Does anyone know if these are on quest or just pc
who tf is that on the top photo XD hes staring into my soul
pastel storm
everyone stop. this is for MAKING avis. searching for em goes in <#8015576853003...
i mean there isnt a quest avater search
frail birch
i mean there isnt a quest avater search
There is, its called #avatar-search-old
See how it's not called "#PC-avatar-search"?
pastel storm
See how it's not called "#PC-avatar-search"?
but if they gonna have a dedicated quest category might aswell include an avatar search channel, for QUEST avatars
violet steeple
youd put “quest” in your query
pastel storm
but still
violet steeple
no
pastel storm
yes
violet steeple
then elaborate
ornate gull
So I have a question and I hope to figure out the answer so I've see people have emission on quest avatars and I was wondering if anyone knew how or how I could go about doing this
I've searched on the internet for it and I can't actually find anything that's quest because I'm 95% sure shaders aren't supported on quest unless there's shaders idk about because I'd love to make avatars that could have some of these effects
violet steeple
I've searched on the internet for it and I can't actually find anything that's q...
standard lite has emmision
pastel storm
It only works if the world has emissions built in, though. You won't notice it all the time, but it's better than nothing
violet steeple
It only works if the world has emissions built in, though. You won't notice it a...
wym?
pastel storm
While Standard lite has an emission map, there won't be any noticeable glow unless you're in a world with bloom.
violet steeple
true. but quest worlds dont have pp so no bloom in the first place tho
itd only be useful on pc then
pastel storm
i mean there isnt a quest avater search
thats for ANY avatars
pastel storm
L relationship status
bruh
acoustic leaf
Does anybody have a heath Ledger joker avatar from Batman The Dark Knight?
ashen minnow
anyone have a zenitsu avatar that can crash a server do not worry not using it to do that i need for a avatar deal it will help me out loads
violet steeple
no
violet steeple
anyone have a zenitsu avatar that can crash a server do not worry not using it t...
also #avatar-search-old but dont be sus again
violet steeple
this channel is dedicated to the development of quest ready avatars in vrchat
ashen minnow
oh ok sorry for bothering
turbid bobcat
Does anyone have a Yoda Avatar for Quest
turbid bobcat
I've been looking on there too I've been looking everywhere
frail birch
Then keep looking over there
scarlet fjord
Any help I try making the atlas for my new quest avatar and it breaks my textures
dense rivet
Any help I try making the atlas for my new quest avatar and it breaks my textur...
Bake also atlasses
scarlet fjord
Bake also atlasses
can we talk in vc for extra help
I am new to blender
I am so confused
dense rivet
Bake tab, one below optimization
scarlet fjord
how do I use it
pastel storm
anyone have a zenitsu avatar that can crash a server do not worry not using it t...
no. stop asking for crashers, just block the people
wispy island
Yo is there a way to make it so you don't have to manually turn the avatars on.
jagged sequoia
Yo is there a way to make it so you don't have to manually turn the avatars on.
nope because if there was you would fry your quest
from the lack of optimization on people's avatars
pastel storm
at least internallu
pastel storm
from the lack of optimization on people's avatars
^ this.
rugged tusk
Anyone know why my avatar is doing this?
patent tendon
Anyone have a connor from Detroit become human or a good darth maul or vader
pastel storm
anyone got any good male avatars?
pastel storm
Anyone have a connor from Detroit become human or a good darth maul or vader
I do have a Connor his hair is not that great but he does have a gun and I know where to find a good darth maul
violet steeple
fair plover
Does anyone know any cool unknown avatar world for quest
frail birch
violet steeple
we need more avatar dev talk to happen here
frail birch
People just go to #quest-development or the avatar3 channels i guess
wraith peak
I have a meru skin
And a skin for the freaky ones too her top and bottom comes off or you can be a menses and show your hulk size Johnson
Don't asked me why she has one cuz idk I got it from one of my friends
pastel storm
And a skin for the freaky ones too her top and bottom comes off or you can be a ...
I want it… I’m collecting avatars
wraith peak
@pastel storm mm idk your 14
pastel storm
<@456226577798135808> mm idk your 14
..?.?.
I’m old enough to drive and work ain’t I
pastel storm
So I don’t see the problem
wraith peak
Add me mythical0bordr
pastel storm
Add me mythical0bordr
I will after school
I have like 3 hours left
I added you on discord so I can ping you when I can get on
wraith peak
The problem is that your not old enough to even be in a strip club which is 18+
wraith peak
Alr
pastel storm
My girlfriend likes avatars like that
She doesn’t have discord so I get her avatars for her
pastel storm
And this topless character comes with tweaking animation
That’s perfect
She’s been wanting a meru avatar since hers got banned
pastel storm
And this topless character comes with tweaking animation
Alr I’ll ping you when I’m out of school
wraith peak
Alr but it doesn't look exactly like her and meru does not come with really anything
pastel storm
Alr but it doesn't look exactly like her and meru does not come with really anyt...
That’s fine
wraith peak
I'll show you when we're on
pastel storm
Ok
undone saffron
Bro💀
pastel storm
Anyone know avatars along these lines??
pastel storm
pastel storm
Anyone got any good pen assets that aren't too taxing on performance?
Oh
Nvm my bad
jagged dust
Lookinh for fake dynamic avatars
restive garnet
Looking for any morbius skins for quest
pastel storm
Lookinh for fake dynamic avatars
Wrong Channel
pastel storm
Looking for any morbius skins for quest
Wrong channel
pastel storm
...?
jagged dust
Its quest avatars, not quest avatar development. So i got confused
Where do i ask for avatars
toxic cloak
Anyone know where I can find a hog rider or other coc/clash royale avatars? (For the memes
spice dirge
anyone know weirdcore skins
pastel storm
Lookinh for fake dynamic avatars
pastel storm
anyone know weirdcore skins
glass venture
jagged dust
<#801557685300363335>
Im@already there
ruby geyser
#avatar-search-old does anyone have a joker 2022 avatar or model because I am making a yt vid
pastel storm
<#801557685300363335> does anyone have a joker 2022 avatar or model because I am...
What.
No.
Post IN avi search
echo storm
So just to be sure from what I've seen, quest avatars have no way of using cutout on a shader at all? I was planning to put my vroid model as a quest model but unfortunately every single mesh on it uses cutout such as the nature of vroid
old ginkgo
Does anyone know how to make custom Avatars
frail birch
So just to be sure from what I've seen, quest avatars have no way of using cutou...
cutout? if you mean transparency then i dont think quest is able to
pastel storm
Does anyone know how to make custom Avatars
If you're looking for a commission, you're in the wrong server.
echo storm
cutout? if you mean transparency then i dont think quest is able to
yeah thats what i thought, thank youu
solid frigate
Quest avatars can't use constraints? Or is my info outdated?
If not, is there some alternative? I'm used to using parent constraints for props so as not to overload on blendshapes
pastel storm
If the object is tied to a bone, shrink 'n grow said bone
solid frigate
Right, but to move the same prop around and snap to different parts of the avatar. Any trick to that, aside from having multiple instances of the prop all over the place?
spark warren
No
pastel storm
Right, but to move the same prop around and snap to different parts of the avata...
Not that I'm aware of. Why, how many places does said prop need to be?
solid frigate
Holster both hands and head. No problem though, I'll figure something out. Thanks for the info!
desert pewter
anyone know how to add seats on quest avatars since you can't use a collider? the default stations collider is huge and idk how to scale it
pearl urchin
Hey everyone, I’m having problems with adding and removing favorited avatars and so far nothing seems to fix the problem I’m dealing with. In the game I’m usually am able to unfavorite any of the 25 avatars I have. however, lately it has been letting me unfavorite some avatars but when I go to check, none of the avatars I remove are gone. After this occurs i cannot unfavorite the avatar at all, not even through the vrchat website. I have attempted to fix the problem through uninstalling/reinstalling vrchat, logging out and back in and nothing works. If anyone has any possible solutions it would be much appreciated.
pseudo wraith
Hey everyone, I’m having problems with adding and removing favorited avatars and...
This is a bug of vrchat itself. I also encountered it some time ago. Many people have encountered this situation. The solution is very simple. Wait for it to repair itself, and it will automatically get better tomorrow or the day after tomorrow
visual mauve
Quest compatible avatar, 
honest creek
Hello, I created an avatar with "readyplayer.me/vrchat" and I have it on the VrChat website but when I go with my oculus quest 2 on VrChat, I don't see the "other" tab nor my avatar! Could someone help me? (I'm not English but French)
ruby summit
is it possible to add audio sources to quest avatars ive seen in the menu that theres an option to disable/enable it per trusted rank but actually trying to add one in unity it says it will be removed by the client
pastel storm
is it possible to add audio sources to quest avatars ive seen in the menu that t...
Nope. You can still have the toggles there for them so that you can still play them for pc players to hear, but that's about all you can do. And from what I've heard, it's never gonna be a quest option for performance reasons
ruby summit
im wondering why its still an option you can turn on/off in safety settings and its not completely blocked like shaders
pastel storm
Quest compatible avatar, <:vrcAevSip:567580842822467585>
omg its so cute can i clone it
visual mauve
omg its so cute can i clone it
Ofc
light flicker
ay anyone got a countryhumans avatar
lofty matrix
Do any know we’re I can get the male Anubis furry avatar
pastel storm
ay anyone got a countryhumans avatar
pastel storm
pastel storm
I am trying to find the male one for 5 mouths
And ive been trying to find a way to get out of my problems.
frail birch
lmao
pastel storm
I am trying to find the male one for 5 mouths
5mouths? Thats a new one
frail birch
he's a hungry fella
pastel storm
Is there anything specific i have to do to make an avi quest compatible? Or just have it under a certain amount of polys
violet steeple
you must have the correct build of unity to create a correspondant architecture safe of the android variety
violet steeple
with out such. you will be deamed as a pc only primearlies of none will
jagged sequoia
pastel storm
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/current-unity-version
But. Its that ya i know. But is there anything specific i need to do to make quest compatible
violet steeple
And what would that be?
when thou downloads unity. you shall be greeted by a window for unity build. you will acquire the “android” and the “windows-64”
jagged sequoia
pastel storm
when thou downloads unity. you shall be greeted by a window for unity build. you...
Ooohhh
violet steeple
hope that makes sence
dense wing
tawdry zodiac
is there any way I can make this centaur quest compatible? the only tutorial I was able to find uses a lot of constraints and only now do I realize that will not work at all
raven fossil
Idk but that is one nice looking avatar
turbid patrol
Does anyone have any suggestions for worlds with avatars for mutes?
nimble coral
Does anyone have any suggestions for worlds with avatars for mutes?
My friend found a female avatar that you can make words or sentences appear above your head so you don't need to talk
It's quest and pc compatible
formal hamlet
https://booth.pm/en/items/2986684
Looks like a cursed beerus
turbid patrol
My friend found a female avatar that you can make words or sentences appear abov...
Do you have the world or avatar link for it?
nimble coral
Uh no but if you give me your vr chat name I'll invite you here in a bit and you can clone it
turbid patrol
Alright! Can i dm it to you?
nimble coral
Sure
nimble coral
Alright! Can i dm it to you?
I'm celebrating Easter rn but I'll text you when I get on
near fossil
is there any way I can make this centaur quest compatible? the only tutorial I w...
we need more technical information on this avatar
but judging from looking at it, I think it’s low-poly enough to not need any decimation
tawdry zodiac
but judging from looking at it, I think it’s low-poly enough to not need any dec...
yeah the poly count is good, the issue i’m having is the rig, since i can’t use rotation constraints on the quest i’m stuck, am i going to have to animate the rig myself?
near fossil
if none of the defaults work, you’ll have to do it yourself
real lance
anyone know where a wendigo avatar is? been looking for one on quest
pastel storm
anyone have any good male avatars that aren’t to tall but not to small either, just something that’s like red and black?
spiral kraken
Do you know know where I can femboy avatars other than traps avatars
frail birch
spiral kraken
Thx for directing me
devout siren
anyone have any good male avatars that aren’t to tall but not to small either, j...
I have some in my world. Just type in my username and you should find it
pastel storm
I have some in my world. Just type in my username and you should find it
alright
plain dove
The Secret War Suit
turbid patrol
Does anyone have any female avatars with an acoustic guitar cosmetic or maybe a guitar that can be held?
latent token
Honest question, why doesn't quest have avatar sounds
jagged sequoia
because the quest doesn't have enough CPU to handle all of those sound effects
as it's already using up most of it sound effect and budget to handle everyone's voices
latent token
ah
wanton mirage
Does anyone have a world with some femboy avis that isn't traps avatars?
wanton mirage
Woops
pastel storm
How are you not a mod?
You should totally be a mod
Petition for rainwolf to become mod
pastel storm
Do you know know where I can femboy avatars other than traps avatars
there’s a world called “traps avatars”
boreal sundial
Does anyone know where I can find a shinobu avatar with animations from demon slayer, I’ve seen people have one from the author madara but I can’t find it anywhere
pastel storm
Lol
torn steppe
Would anyone mind testing something out for me? I wanna see if my issue is just happening to me. Whenever I use particles on my quest avatar they turn into red transparent squares in game. I've seen particles on avatars on quest though so... I have no idea what's going wrong
violet steeple
particle act different in modern uploaded quest avatars currently. i recommend mesh particles if youre trying to get something accurrate but im not a particle expert as to what practices to follow when doing so
torn steppe
Mesh Particles?
violet steeple
yes
torn steppe
How do I make my particles mesh particles?
violet steeple
when in particle system. go to bitton of component and therell be a renderer module. this is where you can switch it to a mesh
torn steppe
Hmm... still red squares
I was able to make particles on sdk2? Did anything change about particles since then?
violet steeple
they changed something but i never fully diagnosed it. as far as I know 🤥 is that it was most likely a mistake that hasnt been addressed fully or something else
makes it hard to make particles. thats why im suggesting using low poly mesh partickes
torn steppe
It's so odd though... nothing seems to be working and yet I don't see anyone else having this problem. It's just frustrating to not know what you're doing wrong
violet steeple
what does it look like right now?
torn steppe
I changed it to mesh and still just red transparent squares
torn steppe
Uhh... I added a quad? Would that work?
I changed it to sphere and now it's just red transparent circles
torn steppe
I've been trying for a few days now... I've tried changing the particle count, color, size... I even tried using the world sdk's additive shader since particles work on worlds but not avatars for me but... nope... all the same result
Here's what it's supposed to look like
torn steppe
I need to know if this is just an issue with me or if I'm not the problem here
Maybe... I can make a workaround. Standard Lite seems to change it so if I just do some stuff with that it won't look exactly like I want it to but it'll look similar
violet steeple
i suggest upvoting the canny if theres one for quest particles since im 99.9% sure this can be solved when those shaders follow the corrected rules
torn steppe
Upvoting the canny? Sorry... I don't know much...
violet steeple
its the bugs and features board for vrchat
torn steppe
So... how do I... "upvote the canny"?
regal island
Here's what it's supposed to look like
transparency does not work on quest
high lion
how can I make a transparent or cutout material for my Quest Avatar? Is there a special shader for?
frail birch
You don't
frail birch
transparency does not work on quest
Read the message above yours
high lion
and cutout? I mean why does they don't support it? is it for performance reason? Is it for compatiblity?
and will this be supported in the future until physbones get realesed into the official version of the game?
violet steeple
cutout and transprency is taxing on the quests architecture. use additive as its the cheapest option for mobile processing
high lion
cutout and transprency is taxing on the quests architecture. use additive as its...
so I take VRChat/Mobile/Particle/additive Shader for my Eyelashes as a transparent/Cutout replacement?
regal island
Get this through your head:
Any type of transparency or cutout is not allowed on quest.
violet steeple
in theory. but not as of right now. not sure what the issue has been. i think the baked in shader for it is no longer there
pastel storm
I assume
violet steeple
correct
pastel storm
Not you
pastel storm
Transparent will become opaque
This i assume
violet steeple
i wonder how hard itd be to make a cutout mesh maker
jagged sequoia
so I take VRChat/Mobile/Particle/additive Shader for my Eyelashes as a transpare...
pretty much you'll have to cut out all of your transparent bits with the knife tool in blender
high lion
pretty much you'll have to cut out all of your transparent bits with the knife t...
I have a transparent eyelashes material over the eyes. The shape is not squared and completely uneven and jagged
jagged sequoia
so you need to take a knife to the eyelashes if you want to keep them
violet steeple
if eye lash color is issue. try matching the color you want on the texture itself so it looks like its cutout
high lion
I really hope Quest gets cutout or transparent support in the future, because this is just a horrible pain...
I moved the vertices around and now, all shapekeys are gone from the brew...
torn steppe
I could really use some help here but I've been getting mixed answers. I'm trying to put particles on my avatar but they turn out as red transparent squares. I keep hearing things like "particles can't be transparent" but never get any information on how to actually fix it... All I hear are potential problems, not solutions so... if anyone knows how to fix this... please help...
frail birch
its not a matter of technical challenge for a new feature
the quest is just too underpowered
jagged sequoia
I really hope Quest gets cutout or transparent support in the future, because th...
that is unlikely to ever change
because of the way mobile chipsets handle rendering
violet steeple
at best. additive would come back as its additive and not multiplying alpha per pixel
high lion
because of the way mobile chipsets handle rendering
This makes no sense, I already got some projects to work on android, that uses transparent shaders...
violet steeple
theyll work. but optimization is the goal
jagged sequoia
the problem is if you use transparencies on all the avatars you can't hit the framerate targets vrchat is trying for
jagged sequoia
basically the problem is avatars would cause lots of overdrawn of the transparencies because they would layer on top of each other
high lion
theyll work. but optimization is the goal
So why not just allow 1 single cutout material for every quest avatar in this case?
frail birch
because one is probably too much
violet steeple
that isnt controlled enough
jagged sequoia
the problem is if you have two avatars with transparency next to each other so the transparencies overlap you have overdraw
high lion
the problem is if you have two avatars with transparency next to each other so...
A simple cutout will also be good enoug for the first.
violet steeple
as a shader tests each pixel. the queue of said material and lod instruction over take eachother and over time. can bring a lot of stressfulness for the system to handle
jagged sequoia
A simple cutout will also be good enoug for the first.
that would still involve overlapping transparency testing
violet steeple
as it stands right now. quest avatars uploaded in modern times follow baked in avatar shaders
jagged sequoia
and I have to go head off to take care of some errands
violet steeple
see ya
high lion
that would still involve overlapping transparency testing
Why I never had such problems on my other Unity android projects (nothing todo with vrc)
violet steeple
thats why i said the thing about 1000s of other people
sacred oracle
take it up with the devs
jagged sequoia
Why I never had such problems on my other Unity android projects (nothing todo w...
they're not rendering at the frame rates or resolutions vrchat needs to do and you control everything in your Unity project compared to vrchat which is user-generated content
so vrchat basically needs to assume worst case scenario constantly
violet steeple
and the worst case scenarios still pop up randomly
frail birch
open a canny for it if you believe there is a solution to be had :3
jagged sequoia
basically none of us are trustworthy enough not to make a mess from vrchat point of view
violet steeple
wheres the canny for additive
frail birch
basically none of us are trustworthy enough not to make a mess from vrchat poin...
lol and they are goddanged right
high lion
they're not rendering at the frame rates or resolutions vrchat needs to do and ...
They still can force everyone to use their VRChat Shader for Quest, but I only wish a simple cutout as an additional shader inside the VRChat Shader (I don't mean third party shader support! like Poiomi...)
frail birch
look at the 420k polys 40 mats avatars that people drop on PCs
jagged sequoia
They still can force everyone to use their VRChat Shader for Quest, but I only w...
the point I'm trying to make is it's too expensive for vrchat worst case scenario modeling and I have to go now
high lion
look at the 420k polys 40 mats avatars that people drop on PCs
What are you getting at?
violet steeple
avatars lag on pc
frail birch
that users cannot be trusted to keep a handle on performance, and that they decided on limits for the quest for a reason
i.e. probably a bad idea to give us transparency
sacred oracle
the point is that about 2% of the VRC userbase actually has any idea what they're doing, so the devs err on the side of caution and don't allow users to use shader features that can absolutely ruin performance for mobile users
high lion
that users cannot be trusted to keep a handle on performance, and that they deci...
I optimise my stuff and get for it a better rating like "good" or "medium". Peoples that don't care or even forcly use / Make avatars with 500k+ poligons and 100 Dynamic Bones getting hided by VRChat automaticly..
high lion
cool you do, most dont
and the most getting hided by default, so you only can see a robot or a vrchat default fallback avatar
frail birch
in my opinion vrc should strongarm the users even more regarding performance, but i'm not going to die on that hill
people love their creativity. even when my gpu is commiting sudoku when rendering their avatar
high lion
in my opinion vrc should strongarm the users even more regarding performance, bu...
I don't quite understand what you're getting at? Players who have poorly optimized avatars will automatically not be shown unless you activate their avatar directly.
violet steeple
i think they should remove the lightmapped shader put of the avatar sdk lol
frail birch
I don't quite understand what you're getting at? Players who have poorly optimiz...
i am not a quest player
violet steeple
I don't quite understand what you're getting at? Players who have poorly optimiz...
the idea is to not crash at the end of the day
high lion
i am not a quest player
why Quest? I am talking about PC and QUest
frail birch
i decide who gets hidden, and the very poor performance pool of avatars range from "oh they used one avatar too many" and "jesus christ this one avatar dropped me 50 FPS"
same goes on the quest, i imagine
you roll the dice when unhiding someone
you either see a nice avatar or your quest commits die
high lion
same goes on the quest, i imagine
It's your choose if you want to show a hidden performance blocked avatar
frail birch
It's your choose if you want to show a hidden performance blocked avatar
sure, i'd rather just see everyone
violet steeple
when ones self is able to cause an effect with out the consent or normality of the morbid behavior of side human wellfair. thou would have strength to bring harm when unnessisary
frail birch
thus strong arming the users a bit harder regarding performance
violet steeple
and by accident
frail birch
when ones self is able to cause an effect with out the consent or normality of t...
calm down nietzsche
😆
high lion
but the thing I am talking about is just to allow one single cutout shader, that is even shiped in from the VRCSDK... (No highly modded PC Burner Shaders)
frail birch
look man
violet steeple
calm down nietzsche
its in some book i swear
frail birch
this is a help channel, and the help you can get is: "no transparency"
if you wish to change it then you need to open a request on their canny and get the dev's attention to it
violet steeple
i think at best. the additive shader should be allowed as an additive cutout would be better than a tradition colormask or rite shader tactice
along with using halfs
find the canny sos
frail birch
we were discussing about it since it was interesting, but unfortunately that's how it is for now
vestal hare
for some reason this fallback isnt showing up in my fallback list?
drowsy cedar
It got banned I also had it and someone else got it banned
Fuck I was hoping no one would say that
rancid sinew
Fuck I was hoping no one would say that
Srry
pastel storm
drowsy cedar
<#801557685300363335>
#stfu
pastel storm
stop
native forge
does anyone know where i can find the morty avatar or one like it?
frail birch
pastel storm
does anyone know where i can find the morty avatar or one like it?
#avatar-search-old and stop fuckin spammin every channel m8
wicked hazel
is there a shader that can be used for quest avatars that supports cutout transparency?
jagged sequoia
no
wicked hazel
dang
jagged sequoia
too expensive for the mobile Hardware
jagged sequoia
yes
wicked hazel
alright, thanks
limber shoal
Anyone here know how to do quest physbones if so dm me or @ me
odd coral
can y’all permanently ban all emo eboy/egirl avatars please
pastel storm
Anyone here know how to do quest physbones if so dm me or @ me
#avatar-search-old is how, not here
pastel storm
can y’all permanently ban all emo eboy/egirl avatars please
and no.'
odd coral
why dawg
torn steppe
Is it still possible to do particles on quest avatars? I've been having a lot of trouble with it
pastel storm
i found a person who claims to use a quest only. with movable hair and such.
i didn’t think quest had that yet.
odd coral
bc they wont ban those avatars just because YOU dont like them
but like can they
pastel storm
no
odd coral
they made da game am I wrong
odd coral
why can’t they
odd coral
huh
pastel storm
what.
odd coral
not joking
frail birch
i mean, nsfw avatars are already against the rules
pastel storm
yeah
they try to ban em as fast as they can
and those are nsfw avis not emo dumbass'
vestal hare
No windows support?
Fallbacks are typically quest only
but they're also no.. hmm hecc
pastel storm
wha
vestal hare
nvm dumb brain
pastel storm
no..... i don no...
frail birch
you need both windows and android for it to work as fallback, no?
that's what they meant
pastel storm
idk
vestal hare
never did with my first fallbacks, but i'll do it anyway lol
its just odd how my first fallbacks worked fine, but this one uploaded... and just simply doesnt exist anywhere but my PC avatars list
vestal hare
ye
oof, ok where am i gonna find a windows project to import this to, that isnt gonna roflstomp something XD
frail birch
backups are important kids
vestal hare
ye
will see what the outcome is, cause i've been yeeting out projects like they're going out of fashion atm
pastel storm
HA
rugged tusk
is there anyway to make particles to work on quest 2?
regal island
Non-transparent ones, sure. keep in mind that particles can cause performance hickups
rancid crescent
does anyone know were to get female quest compatible NSFW avatars
violet steeple
does anyone know were to get female quest compatible NSFW avatars
thats not a good question nor the right place
frail birch
lol
quiet river
Does anyone know of male avatar with long hair that has physbone
pastel storm
Does anyone know of male avatar with long hair that has physbone
First off: Wrong channel. Second: Patience
quiet river
First off: Wrong channel. Second: Patience
Oh shit my b didn't know it was the wrong channel
quiet river
First off: Wrong channel. Second: Patience
And wdym patience?
frail birch
its still in beta, few people are making avatars for it for now
patent tendon
Anyone have a moon knight from the show?
torn steppe
Has anyone else been having issues with particles on quest avatars? If not... could you tell me what you did cause no matter what I seem to do it never works
terse bone
Anyone know how to make a hue shift for quest?
regal island
Has anyone else been having issues with particles on quest avatars? If not... co...
Particles cannot be transparent
violet steeple
Anyone know how to make a hue shift for quest?
animate color of material manually
grave bobcat
i have question , with new update , can quest use rotation constraints or any other type of constraints ?
dry zealot
silk gust
covert totem
try only putting them on the main root bones
placid quest
anyone know were i get physbones sorry
placid juniper
torn steppe
I really need help with something. Has anyone made an avatar with particles for quest recently? If so... how on earth did you do that because mine just look like red squares
rancid hull
I really need help with something. Has anyone made an avatar with particles for ...
bcs you probably used unsupported transparency
torn steppe
How do I... not do that?
torn steppe
I'm not great with unity though... where do I turn off transparency?
pastel storm
anyone have any good couple avatars for quest that have phys bones?
hallow sinew
Any world suggestions for Avis with phys bones, I’m having a hard time finding one that works
magic isle
Are u kidding me? Quest can add Phys bone just 8 components, That too little. Even in open-beta it works.
pastel storm
Are u kidding me? Quest can add Phys bone just 8 components, That too little. Ev...
Ok. So you wanna fry your quest?
magic isle
Ok. So you wanna fry your quest?
Nooo!! But it's so little i can add Phys bone in my hair just 1 just 1!!!!
pastel storm
.
pastel storm
Nooo!! But it's so little i can add Phys bone in my hair just 1 just 1!!!!
Huh?
wintry prairie
Beta before had the entire 64 and most people were fine. 16 wouldn't fry the quest
pastel storm
It doesnt matter
wintry prairie
At least 12 or smth a little more lol. 8 is too small
Ppl really underestimating the quest and think it can't handle more than 8 even tho it ran plenty people with 64 fine in the past
jagged sequoia
https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests/p/raise-physbone-limit-on-quest
they would not Implement that
winter drift
You haven’t even read it
jagged sequoia
the vrchat dev team has already answered several times as far as raising the bone limits
winter drift
In the beta it runs completely fine with heaps of people
pastel storm
Ok. They addressed that
jagged sequoia
a open beta test is a lot less people than when it's live so probably all the disaster cases haven't shown up yet
pastel storm
^^
winter drift
They are addressing it for physbone limits to be removed, I’m asking for it to be bumped up a tad higher because a lot of avatars are unable to use physbones
jagged sequoia
They are addressing it for physbone limits to be removed, I’m asking for it to b...
that the Avatar makers fault for not optimizing
dry zealot
Never enough.
pastel storm
Lol
Yall want more fuckin polygons than hairs on my head. And thats not even that much…
peak yew
Nooo!! But it's so little i can add Phys bone in my hair just 1 just 1!!!!
Then fix the hair. There's no way it needs that many separate strands.
pastel storm
What
dense imp
Mf they are saying that avatars with 64phys worked fine. They aren't asking for uncapped just a bit more. You guys fucking despise quest players because you all think we are little kids. We aren't asking for much; just to be able to use our headsets to their full opportunities.
wintry prairie
^^^^^^^^^
dense imp
It ran fine also when I joined full lobbys also
wintry prairie
16 would be fine. That's not even half of what PC has. That's actually half of half. And it would still give us more leniency to make things effective and nice looking
wintry prairie
I've been looking at avatars today and how many bones it would take to make them look natural and nice. 8 is hardly ever enough, but Ive seen where they can work between 10- 16
dense imp
Like I rember playing in physbone avi worlds and all of their physbones work but now only 2 of the avatars from that world work
wintry prairie
And not everyone can afford a PC
Also its a super dickish move to make the beta run 64 for quest and then to rip it away on live and cap it so harshly
dense imp
And not everyone can afford a PC
I'm starting my job on monday so imma save for a gaming laptop that can run vr
jagged sequoia
wintry prairie
You give people a taste of smth great and then stomp on it. If they were gonna cap it so hard they shouldn't have let Questies use 64 during beta the entire time
dense imp
https://i.gyazo.com/9bed0cf74c98a980f575e5328a92be70.png
That person was asking for unlimited physbones you dense cucumber 💀
wintry prairie
AGAIN. That message is addressing UNLIMITED. we don't want that we're only asking for a slight increase
1 6 isn't gonna melt a quest when 64 was fine on beta with full lobbies
And again. It's a d i c k move to make the beta use 64 if they had no intent of allowing it to follow through and so harshly change it. It's like the carrot on the stick.
dense imp
The way he phrases the message makes me think it will be raised in the future and that since this is the first live branch, they are starting physbones small on quest.
jagged sequoia
the vrchat devs are unlikely to change the limit
dense imp
Thats fucking stupid
wintry prairie
^
jagged sequoia
they've been doing lots of internal testing to figure out what to put the limits at
wintry prairie
Its also ridiculous seeing how physbones were so quest finally had smth like dynamics
dense imp
I don't think quest players mind playing on 38fps like they always do but with physbones lol
wintry prairie
Well their testing is shit considering 64 in full lobbies were fine before
I'm not even asking for a massive increase personally
16 isn't even half of what PC has
jagged sequoia
I don't think quest players mind playing on 38fps like they always do but with p...
the vrchat dev team is uncomfortable with folks running that low frame rate
wintry prairie
They could increase it to 16 and make it a toggle
Make the default 8 or off
And then allow it to manually be turned on or see 16
dense imp
the vrchat dev team is uncomfortable with folks running that low frame rate
Why are the devs uncomfortable with that when the entire quest community is fine with it?
wintry prairie
Could be a 3 way toggle. Off - 8 - 16
dense imp
its like giving us help we dont want
jagged sequoia
Why are the devs uncomfortable with that when the entire quest community is fine...
because low frame rates makes people puke so the fact that it's gotten so bad is a failure from their perspective
wintry prairie
They shouldn't have let beta use 64 then
Bc people saw it worked
Physbones made so quest can have dynamics
The beta uses 64
Beta doesn't change to intended cap before live
Goes live with sudden harsh cap change
dense imp
This is very dissapointing for me concidering one of the main points of physbones was to eliminate dynamic bones and make pc/quest parity for avatar interaction.
wintry prairie
And people wonder why were upset. We were literally given smth we got excited for and saw worked really well and then it was swept from under us
I was so excited for the update and now I'm just ticked and extremely disappointed
frail birch
Lol instead of being glad the dinky quest cpu can handle physics at all people are upset over their unoptimized avatars not having even more
jagged sequoia
optimize your avatars
frail birch
Raise a canny if it bothers you so
wintry prairie
We have
frail birch
Great, hopefully it goes through
wintry prairie
Quest handled it fine before.
dense imp
optimize your avatars
The thing is that they don't need to be optimized because they were optimized with 64 bones and ran extremely smooth 💀
wintry prairie
^^^^^^^
dense imp
I went into a physbones avi world by myself during beta and put on a 64 bone avatar and didn't drop a single fucking frame
wintry prairie
What harm is it if they raise the cap? Raise it to 16. See how it works lol
jagged sequoia
I went into a physbones avi world by myself during beta and put on a 64 bone ava...
vrchat does not make their performance decisions based off of how well a single Avatar performs in a empty world
wintry prairie
I was in full lobbies and my frames were great
But instead you guys would rather settle for less than more which we know would work
And we're not asking for the full 64 or unlimited. Hell I'm not even asking for 32. 16 is fine with me
But 8 is too limiting
dense imp
vrchat does not make their performance decisions based off of how well a single ...
I was giving an examply my guy. You are cherrypicking what we say at this point considering I've already said multiple times that it ran fine with full 30+ people lobbys. As soon as I say something that prooves that they don't cause issues you go "well actually" 🤓
wintry prairie
Is there any physical proof that 8 is the most the quest can handle bc I sure don't see it lol
But I've sure seen proof it works fine with full lobbies with the 64 cap
dense imp
Is there any physical proof that 8 is the most the quest can handle bc I sure do...
Like I said they probably capped it hard because its the first live test and most likely will be capped higher at a later date
wintry prairie
You guys severely are underestimating the quest just bc"well lol it's quest"
dense imp
It still sucks though
wintry prairie
I hope it raises to 16
dense imp
You guys severely are underestimating the quest just bc"well lol it's quest"
It's their only point ig 🤷♂️
wintry prairie
If we get 16 I'll be satisfied and shut up
Can't believe I was so excited for a slap in the face today lmao
Should've had a cap in beta if they were planning to cap it so hard the entire time
Honestly the way they handled beta is probably why everyone is upset. If they had a smaller cap in beta nobody would've cared as much bc we would've expected it.
peak yew
16 isn't even half of what PC has
I don't see your point with this? Quest doesn't have half the processing power of a PC so why would it's limits be half of it?
peak yew
You guys severely are underestimating the quest just bc"well lol it's quest"
Are you sure you aren't overestimating it? I've seen plenty of quest users come into worlds with 60+ and run like crap, so with bones ontop of that ofc they're going to run even worse.
And putting the beta limits up makes sense, they want to stress test to gauge what they considered the acceptable limits for preformance where.
Just because you think low fps is acceptable doesn't mean that the whole quest userbase is.
Although tbh it would have been nice if they added like a limit bones checkbox that brings the limit to 8 that was on by default, and then set the very poor limit to 16 or something.
wintry prairie
16 is enough to not be too limiting while also being less than half of 64 and more than the 8 that barely lets you do anything. Especially since physbones can't multiroot
Also most worlds don't even let more than 60 people in it and a place with 60 people or more isn't the norm
But yes I agree if you could default to 8 and then toggle up to view 16
I'd be fine with that
As long as the cap is raised to something higher like 16 idc
dry zealot
By having 64 transforms plus the humanoid bone. It's already a model in the 150 bone range. Want more then 64 I guess
wintry prairie
It takes 3 bones to frame a face of hair, 3 for long hair to move naturally if it's long, 2 for sleeves if theyre long and that's already 8. It doesn't leave room for anything else like if you have extra accessories like a necklace or ears or smth
16 would leave some leniency and maybe not everyone would have to use it but for more detailed models it would help while not being too much
dry zealot
I was working with 4 to be rank good. You don't need everything to wiggle. You survive with nothing until now
wintry prairie
Physbones were advertised in a way so that quest could finally have dynamics and then we hardly get anything lol
I don't get why asking for the cap to be 16 is such a big deal. It's not a huge increase, but it's enough and it's not unlimited nor nearly the same as the PC
I saw how well it could work with the 64 too. I'm not asking for 64 though.
Not even 32
dry zealot
For now
wintry prairie
I'd be completely satisfied with 16
dry zealot
For now
wintry prairie
I just want leniency but it feels stressful with 8
Why are you even advocating for less
You're fine with less instead of asking for more to even see if it could work out lol
peak yew
I've seen plenty of decent looking good rated avis on desktop, and that's the same bone limit as quest
wintry prairie
It's not even that much more
frail birch
I think it should be 4 /s
peak yew
You just need to optimize your bone layouts and not try and make every single part of your Avi jiggle
wintry prairie
I personally feel like you guys are just coming from a place of malice for quest users 😂
peak yew
I personally feel like you guys are just coming from a place of malice for quest...
As somone who makes all my Avis and world's quest compatible, no
dry zealot
Same
wintry prairie
Then what's the big deal if it's 16
dry zealot
Since day 1
frail birch
Its never enough :3
vrc devs give a hand and people want the whole arm
dry zealot
Was the first
wintry prairie
If it was never enough id be asking for 64
Then don't advertise physbones as finally giving quest dynamics , make the beta use 64 , then cap it to 8 out of nowhere and then refuse to have any leniency? It's dickish
If most people are upset raise it a little and see how it goes lol
Again. 16 isn't a lot.
But it's enough :^
And I'd be fine with it
dry zealot
16 but 64 transform ?
peak yew
It's not dickish. If you are using a beta you should expect that to change. To everyone who hasn't used the beta it's gone from no dynamics to having some. That's a +.
wintry prairie
Ive looked at avatars to see how it could look natural and not too stiff and 8 hardly is enough. 16 would be fine and sometimes more than needed. Usually it's the 12 range
Yeah but people who use beta probably expected the beta and not a sudden last second change that changes it so drastically ?
A slight decrease fine. But 8 was such a massive drop
I don't see the big deal in wanting 16.
I'm not even asking for no cap.
peak yew
Preformance is the deal. That's all.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice if it was 16. I'm saying if 16 would work well on the quest hardware they'd probably have made that the limit.
wintry prairie
There's no proof saying 16 couldn't work.
peak yew
I never said it wouldn't work. I said it would preform markedly worse than 8
wintry prairie
Not drastically though?
Beta was fine with 64 in full lobby I don't see how 16 could be so much worse than 8
frail birch
Im not sure what bargaining with random users here in the help channel will do for you, we dont develop vrc features
wintry prairie
Maybe they'll see it idk
jagged sequoia
Maybe they'll see it idk
they do not take feature request outside of the vrchat canary
frail birch
Put forth your arguments in the canny, spending hours mad over here will do nothing
wintry prairie
I already put my cents in a canny though
frail birch
Then there were go
jagged sequoia
I already put my cents in a canny though
and there is literally nothing else actionable to do at the moment
frail birch
Now either optimize your avatars to work on 8 bones, or do nothing until the devs maybe raise the limit, or not
wintry prairie
I hope they do then,,
Ill have to learn how to use 8 it's just .. frustrating I guess .
Im just , upset because I was so excited and then let down so hard idk
Sorry
frail birch
Its frustrating seeing people treating physics and this whole interactivity system finally coming to the quest as a slap in the face because they don't consider it good enough, to be honest.
wintry prairie
Well I mean it is very disappointing compared to how it looked but that's all I have to say.
frail birch
You had a lot to say 😄
wintry prairie
Yes. And I don't think what I had to say was too much to ask for
dry zealot
A free products. Demand. Seen reasonable
wintry prairie
I at least am not lacking in ambition
dry zealot
🧱
frail birch
lol
sudden wyvern
Hey
Got new physic bones working
But they dont have coliders on my hair bones
How do i fix it
So i can grab my hair
frail birch
I think its a thing you gotta do in your hand colliders? Like set the radius to above zero
But i didnt mess with dynbones yet so not sure, just read it
torn steppe
Anyone know how I can make a custom mesh for particles on my avatar?
steady hamlet
does anyone have any cute physbone avatars or like worlds i could go to?
frail birch
shell jackal
Viseme not showing on mirrors can anyone help me?
dense imp
Its frustrating seeing people treating physics and this whole interactivity syst...
Its a slap in the face for people that expierienced 64 bones, had perfect performance, and then got it taken away from them.
near fossil
Now either optimize your avatars to work on 8 bones, or do nothing until the dev...
components
frail birch
What, 64? I thought the 8 was referring to the bones being controlled which indeed doesn't sound very good
Man you can do plenty on 64 bones lol
pastel storm
Hair is tuff though bc it takes alot components unless u know how to use root bone
And it can be buggy
It is a good update though. Hope they make more progress and optimization for maybe 3 more components in future or idk
serene citrus
i really just want a cap of like 200, is that too much to ask?
like idk anything about the code but it seemed to work extremely well in the beta
worthy sage
i really just want a cap of like 200, is that too much to ask?
You're basically asking for the same limits as PC on a device way less powerful then even low-end VR PC's.
It's possible they'll increase the limit in the future, but it's also possible it'll just stay the same. We'll have to wait and see.
solemn flame
cellphone in a headset is essentially the quest
serene citrus
wait what? the limit on pc is that low?
worthy sage
if you exceed 256 phys bones your avatar is marked as Very Poor on PC.
serene citrus
damn. thats a little low imo. i just want to be able to have good looking hair on quest, mine has 124 to be exact. was a shame when i saw that the limit was half that
solemn flame
give people a hand and they want the whole arm
serene citrus
listen they did a great job, a giant improvement for all. but it still has issues, most things do
solemn flame
the statement from tupper about the 8 bone limit should be pinned imo
serene citrus
im just giving a bit of feedback
worthy sage
listen they did a great job, a giant improvement for all. but it still has issue...
If you wanna give feedback to the VRChat Team on it you can do so here, ideally check if a post similar to what you want to say is already there, if it is just vote on that instead of making a new post. https://feedback.vrchat.com/
near fossil
damn. thats a little low imo. i just want to be able to have good looking hair o...
256 is pretty generous, the real bottleneck is component count.
pastel storm
Mf they are saying that avatars with 64phys worked fine. They aren't asking for ...
Kk. Sure. Im on quest. I dont despise them. Hell. My lovers on quest. Some of my best friends are on quest. I dont make avatars. Im only trying to inform you that itll make your quest melt and you wont be able to use it.
pastel storm
I've been looking at avatars today and how many bones it would take to make them...
Now. I think a raise to 10 would be fine, but remember the admin have the last word
dawn quiver
I have a question. When the avatar dynamics came out, do people have to update the avitars?
icy ermine
Does anyone have good worlds with the new physics bones. Yes especially if they are beta avatars
frail birch
I have a question. When the avatar dynamics came out, do people have to update t...
not really, but models using the old physics will behave differently with the new physics
so it would require an update to make it look right again
dawn quiver
not really, but models using the old physics will behave differently with the ne...
Well mine don't move at all...
Why
dawn quiver
It is
frail birch
when you mean old models, do you mean old quest models on the beta dynamic bones ?
dawn quiver
Is it cuz I'm on quest
frail birch
i meant models using the old dynamic bones physics
dawn quiver
They said it worked on there too
frail birch
they quest lowered the limit after beta, so old models using the high limit cap do not work anymore
frail birch
all dynamic bones are disabled on models over the limit
dawn quiver
Damn
frail birch
before it was like... 64 components? i am not sure, i didnt participate in the beta.
icy ermine
Ah ok
dawn quiver
Man I was really exited but. Dunno if people will even care about those limits. Wanted to see my avatars wiggle😕
icy ermine
Understandable but it’s to help out systems not overload
Try looking up phys or dynamics in worlds and you can find a couple more good avatars
pastel storm
Hey so I updated to the beta version on my quest but I still don't see dynamic bones on any of my avatars anyone know why?
frail birch
read up
probably they're avatars over the bone limit, so they get disabled
make sure you have the game updated too
pastel storm
Ahh ok thank you!
frosty walrus
does anyone know good worlds to get good girl avatars?
pastel storm
does anyone know good worlds to get good girl avatars?
Maybe in #avatar-search-old cuz this is for making avis
torn steppe
Has anyone made a quest avatar with particles recently? I need to know how one would do that
pastel storm
How do i unlock this shader? 😅
dense imp
Kk. Sure. Im on quest. I dont despise them. Hell. My lovers on quest. Some of my...
How tf is it melting the quest when every quest player was fine with 64bones in full lobbys
pastel storm
It’s over exaggerating. And the beta was with not a lotta ppl
pastel storm
How tf is it melting the quest when every quest player was fine with 64bones in ...
Ok. I kno some crashers exist that break the quest@
dense imp
Ok. I kno some crashers exist that break the quest@
Yea they dont use physbones 💀 Most crashers dont use physbones
dense imp
How do crashers have to do with physbones?
dense imp
It’s over exaggerating. And the beta was with not a lotta ppl
No because i've been in full lobbys
dense imp
Because it can ruin the quest.
How.
dense imp
In the live?
No on the beta
dense imp
How many?
pastel storm
I am not sure. But possibly only ~200 ppl in beta
Mhm. Cuz it would cr-
Hw
Why deletw
dense imp
Cuz i thought you were talking about something else
dense imp
I am not sure. But possibly only ~200 ppl in beta
And I was still in full lobbys
With bones capped at 64
pastel storm
Cuz i thought you were talking about something else
B r u h
pastel storm
With bones capped at 64
Nah. Bones capped at. Hold on
dense imp
Like how are people so fucking dense that they can't understand that quest can run a lot of bones without "melting" it
pastel storm
Hold. On
jagged sequoia
I would point out that the 8 limit is on components not amount of bone transforms
pastel storm
Like how are people so fucking dense that they can't understand that quest can r...
Yes. In one avatar. But if lets say. 30 people with abiht 100 bones each, all in a lobby?
Take note
nimble yarrow
what’s a acotar dynamic world i can go to for quest
charred sorrel
How does one join the beta-
jagged sequoia
How does one join the beta-
the beta finished Avatar Dynamics came out
pastel storm
How does one join the beta-
Ik2? Isnt that pc only
charred sorrel
the beta finished Avatar Dynamics came out
Oh?
graceful horizon
Ik2? Isnt that pc only
it is yea
pastel storm
Oh but. This is quest avis?..
charred sorrel
I joined the dynamic world and it told me to join the open beta?
pastel storm
cough cough its pc only and irregardless you shouldnt ask that here
jagged sequoia
I joined the dynamic world and it told me to join the open beta?
they haven't updated the sign
charred sorrel
Ohh I see!
pastel storm
*cough cough* **its pc only and irregardless you shouldnt ask that here**
He didn't know, thats why he asked :)
all good tho
just a misunderstanding
maybe they should have read the channel rules
pastel storm
just a misunderstanding
Yes
pastel storm
~~maybe they should have read the channel rules~~
everyone doesn't read channel rules
..
I do
thats good for you
frail birch
they weren't aware that the dynamics beta had ended already, you just kind of assumed he was talking about IK beta for some reason lol
just tell em that dynamics is live and issue solved
torn steppe
Is there something going on with quest avatars and particles? They appear as red squares for me but I don't know if it's me doing something wrong or if it's just bugged
raven glade
Lopunny anyone
pastel storm
Lopunny anyone
frail birch
:3 time to dynamic bone it a little
pastel storm
Oml
pastel storm
Anyone know non furry avatar worlds with physbone?
nimble coral
Does anyone have any ww2 or ww1 avatars other then the 1917 avatars
obsidian void
Why did they set the physbone limit so low on quest? It worked fine in open beta, but now it doesn’t
jagged sequoia
obsidian void
Well that sucks
jagged sequoia
so yeah they're unlikely to raise it
wise idol
So wait, is dynamics out for all platforms, or out on pc and bets on oculus, or is it pc only? I tried getting the beta to work on oculus earlier and it came to no avail
jagged sequoia
all platforms & Quest avatars have to be manually upgraded to use it as they have no Dynamics bones to Auto convert from
static walrus
anyone have some animated avatars? troll, male, female, normal- i just want avatars with alot of expressions. i can trade avatar ig
severe hemlock
For qeust avatars do you need to edit them yourself? Like add phys bones to it?
To have the update work
dusky thorn
question: is there a fixed maximum file size for avatars on quest which is 10MB?
and question #2: how do I figure that out on upload time, how big the avatar file size is, as I don't have a quest...
round prairie
Does anyone have avatars with cool features?
broken nova
so ive made a avatar which when im on standalone quest shows for me but not my friends even after they manually show it and all
violet steeple
so ive made a avatar which when im on standalone quest shows for me but not my f...
might be above 10 mb
broken nova
ye it was 10.1mb while it showed for me on quest it did not for others but i have since fixed
static walrus
anyone have avatars with qlot of expressions
static walrus
i tried it too venom
frail birch
Then stay there lol
pastel storm
i tried it too venom
It don’t matter
dry zealot
I have that avatar with 13 phys components. I could bring it down to 6 by having a root with multiple childs. The only draw back is, they can't get multi grab I think but that's fine.
regal island
Been having this question for a while, recently made an avatar use 1 atlassed texture, It's 8k But I compressed it down to 1.3MB, should I look for a smaller size or is this okay?
jagged sequoia
that's a lotta vram being used up
as crunch compression only helps with the download time not Ram size
that texture would be using 256 MB of RAM and the quest only has 6 GB
regal island
Hmm, I'll get on it!
Issue is that it looks horrible on a smaller size, must an unwrapping issue
regal island
that texture would be using 256 MB of RAM and the quest only has 6 GB
doesn't the quest only have 2 though?
jagged sequoia
6 gigs of RAM and it shared with the vram the original Quest has 4
maybe it was two gigs was actually usable by vrchat but yeah that's way too high especially if it's PBR
jagged sequoia
like I might suggest doing a texture bake to cut down on wasted space in the texture
regal island
Oh well that won't be an issue as I have it ready and set with cats
thanks for the info Rainwolf, just like the beta times XD
jagged sequoia
and basically I'm suggesting it so you suck out all the empty space that comes about just from putting the different textures next to each other
like in this example half the texture is black
static walrus
It don’t matter
bruh quest avatars is finding avatars for quest, avatar search is for pc and quest
pastel storm
bruh quest avatars is finding avatars for quest, avatar search is for pc and que...
No.
Read the channel
mossy tendon
me who cant read
pastel storm
Lol
ember acorn
does this work? https://booth.pm/ja/items/2436054
limber tartan
anyone that knows how to upload a quest avatar could you help me?
steady hamlet
Hey i wanted to start editing avatars that didn’t have physbones does anyone know how i can do that?
glacial gorge
Can anyone help me? I'm looking for Niko Bellic from GTA IV, I've seen this avatar in two quest compatible worlds but cannot remember what the world was called.
static walrus
i dont know how to do that thx for telling im dumb
violet steeple
doesn't the quest only have 2 though?
thats O-go youre thinking of.
regal island
thats O-go youre thinking of.
I've never heard of that in my entire life
boreal wigeon
Can anyone help me find a femboy avatar with laying down animations quest
grim tangle
i made the transformer death star available for quest
tall turtle
How do I optimize the fish bones I’ve never actually done it and it always says that I have too many bones and I don’t know how to make it less
pastel storm
FISH BONES
pastel storm
FISH BONES
tall turtle
Whats it mean
pastel storm
STFU DYNO
pastel storm
Lol
tall turtle
Lol
gentle radish
How do I optimize the fish bones I’ve never actually done it and it always says ...
Well what exactly is too much, there are limits for different parts of physbones
elfin hatch
grim tangle
one rule for it do not fire the superlaser at a mirror it’ll crash the entire server
pastel storm
one rule for it do not fire the superlaser at a mirror it’ll crash the entire se...
Dwlete
I doubt they’ll accidentally donit
Hnless its on purpos
dry zealot
An avatar exceeding the physbone limit. That's kinda fish
grim tangle
i mean it will destroy the server
i put a warning on it don’t use the superlaser not ready for testing
pastel storm
Anyone know bunny avatar worlds
long talon
https://raytracing-benchmarks.are-really.cool/9tupZbA.mp4 Making my Quest avatar have the same features as the PC one, including configurable glowing colored parts.
Please ignore the hair normals, I fixed them already
long talon
PC 
Quest 
I would love to make it more optimized, but I need 4 materials to do the effects, I could reduce it to 3, but I would loose the matcap on clothes
I understand why it's there, especially with materials, as each mat is a garanteed drawcall, and those are expensive, but I could do it all in one or two materials if we had more feature-complete shaders
Oh, animations affect all four materials....
Well, there goes the whole idea
I suppose I can still implement it through material swaps and just have a few preset colors based on thresholds
Society if we had masks on Quest:
pastel storm
which of the mobile shaders actually show up on quest avatars
long talon
All of them except Lightmapped and Skybox
regal island
Sorry to randomly appear, but what in the world is happening here? Using the standard shader the texture looks fine, but as soon as I use "Standard lite" this happens:
merry karma
Each 'Material slot' is what counts. You need to merge objects utilizing the same materials in order for them to count as one material.
high lion
Each 'Material slot' is what counts. You need to merge objects utilizing the sam...
do you see the 2 materials on my unity image in the left corner? that is all what I am using for this avatar. my other .fbx use exactly that same material, like my avatar use for his hair, skin, face ...
merry karma
do you see the 2 materials on my unity image in the left corner? that is all wha...
I do. I am telling you it doesn't matter if it is the same material if they are separate objects. 5 Material slots and 2 materials doesn't optimize it down to 2 material slots for you
It does make a difference in performance. You can go look up the tech stuff by googling 'Draw Calls' but it is not knowledge you need to have. Unity will assume that each material slot can assume a different material at runtime so they stay separate. This is an optimization you have to do yourself.
No. This is a normal realtime rendering issue that has little to do with VRChat itself. Under normal game dev circumstances merging 'Material Slots' is never an issue, I am unsure why you are reluctant to do so. I believe the optimization toolset in Blender Cats Blender Plugin can trivialize this task for you.
Export it as one merged object in one file. Instead of hiding the elements you could use shape keys to scale the objects into something extremely small and move it inside the nearest bodypart.
high lion
and I though Quest avatars are already complicated and expensive to make as f...
merry karma
Complete standalone VR is an absolute marvel of technology at this pricepoint :)
high lion
sounds like another few days of work that noone is recognize how much pain this was / would be...
it sounds possible to make, but very painful
I mean, atleast I have always to make the avatar again and again in blender, if I dislike, how the knife fits into my vrchat animated fist as example
merry karma
It may seem that way, but with more experience this is a task that could have been completed in less time than this conversation. For now it sounds like you should lower your expectations. If you keep it up you'll find those things come to you easily.
jagged sequoia
bone scaling would be better for performance than blendshapes as far as hiding objects
jagged sequoia
that would be poor rank which requires user to change the settings to show automatically
frail birch
Prob lite
Standard lite
Setup, idk, some metallic with a little emission over the material? Not sure but standard is the only one that gives you the tools
light eagle
Can someone make a boy avatar with the jiggle Affect don’t make it look emo or have tail or ears
frail birch
Can someone make a boy avatar with the jiggle Affect don’t make it look emo or h...
no
pastel storm
i'm scared
jagged sequoia
yes
high lion
Can someone make a boy avatar with the jiggle Affect don’t make it look emo or h...
I think on fiverr are peoples, that can make you such things for money, but you never know how good or bad your creation will look and work in the end.
smoky dock
i mean with a base model i’ve helped friends make the avi less edgy looking
some of them let you take off the ears and tails and such
mellow mortar
Latex matcap using matcap lit
high lion
Latex matcap using matcap lit
Matcap lit?
mellow mortar
It's a quest shader that allows you to use matcaps
frail birch
Matcap lit?
matcap lit 😎 👌 🚬 🔥 af
mellow mortar
hold on
high lion
ignore the tilling, I returned them back to 1 but I tried to change the numbers to see maybe any difference, but no....
mellow mortar
Use this for your matcap
mellow mortar
Well it's base on camera postition
Or you could use bumpmapped specular and up the shineness
Well im out of ideas
frail birch
Thats odd, the matcap should be more pronounced
Matcap is basically pretend lighting/reflections based on the little circle
grand owl
frail birch
Where eyes 👀
grand owl
hi
nova flame
i need help, is there any way to search for an avatar by performance??? i was looking for e-boy avatars but they all are very poor, or does anybody know a good avatar world with optimized e-boy avatars?
craggy glacier
@dense imp Don't ping staff please. An explanation for the quest limit is provided here https://feedback.vrchat.com/open-beta/p/1189-change-quest-hard-limits-to-a-toggle
dense imp
<@850105982049583125> Don't ping staff please. An explanation for the quest limi...
sorry someone told me I could 😖
dense imp
<@850105982049583125> Don't ping staff please. An explanation for the quest limi...
This is for unlimited physbones though? This doesn't answer my question at all.
craggy glacier
read the replies
dense imp
read the replies
I did. He talks about never implamenting unlimited.
frail birch
tupper's answer both covers raising and unlimited
To be extremely to-the-point: We have very significant performance problems on the Quest that we constantly push back against, and we have no interest in adding in another unlimited factor that would kill performance across the board.
That's why we've implemented the limit. If it turns out that it's extremely restrictive, we can approach it again later-- however, I do not think this is likely.
Since the PhysBones limits are double that (old) DB limit and Quest has never had a system like this before, I expect Quest avatar authors to adapt extremely quickly, and with very little loss of fidelity.
i.e. they have other performance issues to watch out for;
they're on the brink of other performance metrics already and, as performant as it is, adding another system didn't help;
raising isnt out of the table but unlikely;
they simply expect authors to adapt
dense imp
i.e. they have other performance issues to watch out for;
they're on the brink o...
That sucks :( the beta performed so well with the higher limit even in full lobbies.
It was a really big letdown to see this update ngl
Really dissapointed :(
its still really cool
frail birch
you went from 0 physics to 8 components/64 transforms and it was a let down?
i guess they shouldnt have bothered.
dense imp
you went from 0 physics to 8 components/64 transforms and it was a let down?
Wdym by "0 physics"?
dense imp
Well yea ik bro
Its just they gave us so much in the beta that was performing really well and then was taken away
I'm just saying it isnt being used to its full potential at all
frail birch
potential comes after fixing shitty fps
the quest is already unbearable at times already
craggy glacier
8 components and 64 transforms is extremely generous
lime inlet
Hey all, I just joined and I’ve got a question. I’m sure this gets asked a decent amount but, is it really impossible to upload avatars for quest from a mac? I don’t have a pc, so I don’t have any other option. I’ve tried it from my mac but it just says “failed to upload asset bundle.” (I’ve triple checked I’m using the right sdk and version of unity btw)
violet steeple
Hey all, I just joined and I’ve got a question. I’m sure this gets asked a decen...
older macs seem to have issues uploading to vrc but newer ones seem to work just fine
lime inlet
older macs seem to have issues uploading to vrc but newer ones seem to work just...
Ah, that’s probably the problem then. I’ve got a mac from 2015
Damn that sucks. One of the big reasons I even got a quest was so I could play as some custom avatars
Now it turns out I need to buy an entire new laptop before thats possible
Rip
violet steeple
id suggest windows 10 if possible
lime inlet
What, you mean like running windows 10 through my mac?
limpid crystal
jagged sequoia
violet steeple
either, i recommend on new computer
obtuse quartz
Why do Quest compatible "particle" shaders work fine in Unity, but show up invisible in game?
If these worked properly it would be helpful for blush and materials that are supposed to use a cutout shader.
frail birch
quest vr chat does not support any form of transparency for performance reasons
obtuse quartz
quest vr chat does not support any form of transparency for performance reasons
But they leave the ability use the shaders anyway?
I've always wondered why the sdk specified why you can't use alpha blended, but the other 2 were fine. Why have them included if we aren't supposed to use them? I guess i'll never know hahah.
jagged sequoia
basically all the shaders are left how they were an SDK 2 when it was one sdk instead of two separate ones
obtuse quartz
basically all the shaders are left how they were an SDK 2 when it was one sdk i...
I see, so they were originally meant for worlds??
jagged sequoia
potentially as like the lightmap shaders are still in the Avatar SDK
pearl crater
you went from 0 physics to 8 components/64 transforms and it was a let down?
Ye in the beta there was 64 it's a let down when u are shown one thing and given another
frail birch
betas are subject to change at any time and do not represent the final item.
light loom
Have anyone been having issues loading into their avatars lately? (avatar breaking, no movement, cam stuck at a higher position than avatar, no expressions)
pastel storm
is there a way to make more shaders for the vrchat/mobile?