world-lighting

[glossy meteor]

why are your lights set to mixed?

have you tried other avatars too?

[sullen solar]

No i havent, my lights are mixed because i wanted shadows to appear

I think i just had a bad avatar then

this looks great

[short relic]

Hi, i notice in On unity my world looks dark and its great, but when i Build test on the SDK it get super bright. Im not sure what to do so it kept the same lighting in VRC, the brightness gets turned up idk why

[short relic]

In Cyan

in VRC Build Test

im assuming it has to do something with post processing im not sure

I want the end result to look like it does in Cyan

[glossy meteor]

you don't need mixed lights for that

[sullen solar]

i meant for non-static objects

[glossy meteor]

yup, just have a single real time light and use layers

[sullen solar]

oh okay, ill try that for shadows then

anyone know how to fix this issue? should i use a shader?

[rustic cypress]

Any reasons why this is happening?

it'll flash like this rapidly

[modest vapor]

Looks like two overlapping models

[rustic cypress]

I fixed it

[teal star]

Why does enabling depth on post processing give PC VR two vertical blurred strips on each eye?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841397603505274900/921998455046553610/IMG_1572.mov

[teal star]

seems to be an issue with the game thinking there's something in my head

I tested and noticed that when things are super close to your face, they get that blur effect around them

[tardy rivet]

Yooo, if I just turn up the resolution on Bakery will that make this shadow look nicer??

[small lynx]

Hey, has anyone ever seen this issue?
The terrain became white after I tried to Render Light Probes with Bakery. At first I thought the meshes on it disappeared, but it looks like they are still rendered if you look from below or if I disable the terrain. It's like something happened to the terrain material.
I think I can fix this somehow, but why does this happen randomly?

This is where the bench mesh is:

Just discovered this as child 🤔

Removing them fixes it. Guess rendering light probes had an error, although I did not see anything in the console.
Still curious why this might have happened.

[short relic]

Can anyone tell me why my world is a lot brighter on VRC than it is in Unity?

[sullen solar]

why does the baked lighting look like dookie when i switch to android

[crimson locust]

Is there a way I can simply toggle off player shadows while still having them lit by a realtime light or is that going to involve some baking/lightprobes? Answered elsewhere. Solution was two separate lights with different culling masks if anyone else is looking later.

I see the culling mask dropdown for the light itself but not shadows specifically.

My endgoal was to try having a single realtime 'sun' and only cast shadows for static game objects and the local player.

[fluid sedge]

Change the android override compression type to 4x4 block

For the baked lighting image

[cursive pulsar]

You can turn down the skybox intensity, sounds like thats what's doing it

[cursive pulsar]

^^ same issue as this? Possibly, what skybox do you have set?

[short relic]

I just have a white skybox set, the intensity multiplier to 0.1 on the lighting tab

i sent images of the lighting difference just bit up

[cursive pulsar]

Do you have a reflection probe in your world?

[rustic cypress]

how do I light up avatars?

[fallow lark]

make sure you have light probes if you're doing baked lighting which is recommended for performance

[rustic cypress]

how do I add light probes?

I do use baked lighting

I have Bakery

[fallow lark]

https://youtu.be/dKgUJccjWRU?t=208

I have the video set to Auto jump to the light probe section

[short relic]

yes i do, a few actaully

[cursive pulsar]

That rules out the skybox then, do you have any directional lights?

[sullen solar]

Where would I do this? Im not sure where to look other than here in the build settings.

[short relic]

I do, as teh sun

[cursive pulsar]

Im leaning toward that being the cause, try to drop the intensity on it, or try to disable it all together to see if the issue disappears with it, rebake, rebuild test

[short relic]

alrighty, thank you. i will try that and let you know

[short relic]

Im not sure why VRC colors are off

[cursive pulsar]

do you have postprocessing setup in the world?

[short relic]

yes i do

[cursive pulsar]

Im new to this lighting shit as well, was going based off of my experiences recently with it. Uhmmmmmmmm

[short relic]

thank, you I really appreciate the help

Its like VRC has its own colour correction built it idk

Even the LED are an off colour

[cursive pulsar]

Having postprocessing setup with like, VRWorld Toolkit, mitigates that, or should

[short relic]

Ill tweak around some more. its been bothering me for a few days now I cant figure it out

[cursive pulsar]

It's going to be something small and easily overlooked, the life of unity from what i've experienced, best of luck. sorry i couldn't sort it outs.

[fluid sedge]

Not there~
In the inspector when selecting the file baking makes

Overrides is at the bottom, has 3 tabs, default, pc and android

[short relic]

no worries, I appreciate the help. I noticed there is like a half a second when I join the world on VRC where it looks as it should but then the colours get saturated and it gets brighter, idk what's doing it.

[cursive pulsar]

Try to bring your post processing to the most bare bone settings

[short relic]

are you referring to the weight?

[short relic]

I honestly feel like VRC isn't picking up the Post processing at all

[short relic]

yeah my settings are the same as the one you sent, When I turned the Post processing off it l looks as it does in VRC

[cursive pulsar]

O.o

[short relic]

lol

[cursive pulsar]

😐

[short relic]

bahaha

im Gonna tweak around again

for like half a second its on then it disappears

[cursive pulsar]

That's gotta be post processing

[short relic]

i think so too, but i dont know why it just turns off

[cursive pulsar]

Do you have it as a toggle anywhere?

[short relic]

i thought it might be something with having multiple cameras i the scene and the main camera changes but i went into the VRCworld prefab and set the main camera as the camera im sending the post processing too so idk what it could be

No toggles,

Other than a simple mirror toggle actaully

[cursive pulsar]

Wont mess with it, uhhmmmm

Have you tried to redo PP? Reove everything involving it and setting back up?

[short relic]

a couple times yeah/

[cursive pulsar]

AM very much clueless, hopefully someone comes by with more experience

[short relic]

i hope so too

[modest vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU

Each room is usually better

[lucid shore]

Hello, does someone know how to make a point light that follows the player around? I think I could do this using c#

[modest vapor]

Probably a question for #udon-general

[harsh lintel]

How would I make a handheld light source that is local to the player? I'm making a dark, enclosed maze and I'd like each person who joins the world to be able to carry their own realtime light to explore the maze with without having a bunch of lights lagging up the world

[mint cipher]

is there a way i can undo baked lighting?

[green vault]

go into lighting tab, and right next to the generate button is a dropdown. in there, there'll be a clear button. (if this does not work in game, you may need to manually remove the lightmapdata.asset or the lightmaps entirely from unity)

[mortal shale]

hello, how do i make the light looks better if there are more light sources and the lights overlapping?

[random talon]

i read above in regards to post processing tho it doesnt seem to have what i need, so i am using the Lura Switches, it has prefab for post processing but for some reason it has no effect at all, any ideas i gladly share screens of how it looks etc. i saw few videos how to setup post processing from scratch but i would love to just be able to use the Lura Switches for that and not make them from scratch.

[random talon]

have u tried selecting the floor / cube / whatever that object is and make sure it will reflect to light

oh wait actually the other does, so its prob because its baked mode but not mapped ?, atleast i had issues like that in the past where as after they got mapped they worked somehow

[cursive pulsar]

Are your walls marked as static?

[rustic cypress]

Baking with Bakery causes weird artifacts around objects

[flint path]

Don't probuilderize

[pallid flint]

in a 3D modeling software. preferably the one the mesh was made in(in case you have the original savefile, as opposed to just the exported model)

[vagrant briar]

Anyone have suggestions for these light leaks? I've tried messing with the bias on the global light source. My ghetto solution is just an invisible shadow caster above the house but...

[hasty ledge]

You could try to patch the hole its coming through

With another model or something

[pallid flint]

depends on exact settings
unity has a limit of 4 vertex("not important") lights per mesh
these come at relatively low performance impact if they don't cast shadows (if they do cast shadows a shadowmap will have to be rendered each frame per light)
there is no limit on per pixel("important") lights, but each per pixel light requires another pass while rendering the frame (if they cast shadows a shadowmap will also have to be rendered per frame per light)

you can think of the creation of the shadowmap as an additional(low quality) camera per light
and each per-pixel light is a bit like adding another copy of the objects it affects.
granted, this second paragraph is a very rough comparison.

[mortal shale]

hello, i have a problem, i dont know how, but i have broken the light, the avatars have now a pink touch, anyone knows a solution?

the hair from her is original yellow

[molten kestrel]

Looks like I'm in the 'light through walls' gang.
Disabling shadows fixes it, but then my table in the room below doesn't get a shadow. :/

The light is halfway through the ceiling of the floor below.

Turning off either of these fixes the problem, but neither are ideal.

[molten kestrel]

Another shot of the lights

Swapped to spot lights. Set angle to 179 degrees and raised them by 0.05 so they look like they are 180 degrees.

Problem solved.

[molten kestrel]

Turns out raising them isn't perfect, so I'm settling for 0.001 off the ceiling. Can't use 0 or you get buggy lighting. Wish I could just set it to 180 degrees. :/

[molten kestrel]

I switched to baked spotlights.

I don't have any lighting issues with them.

[teal star]

So I'm aware this is an issue with the post-processing Depth of Field thinking there's an object extremely close to the player's face, but I wanted to double-check if anybody else here has had a similar issue and what their cause was?

https://i.imgur.com/Sa18G3W.png

This is the desktop view, but you can clearly see that there's something in the player's head that's causing the depth of field blur to appear in a strip straight down their vision

It's going to be a hell of a night with me one-by-one disabling each head-tracked empty we have then rebuilding a 150mb+ project to test in-game and find out what actually has an object inside it

[glossy meteor]

just use cyanemu

also using dof is just asking for trouble

[small lynx]

I've been trying to bake the shadows of terrain trees by spawning a bunch of game objects I disable after. It works okay, except that I get the following visual glitch:

Those dark lines are at the bottom of the tree shadow. Is this because I'm using terrain or am I doing something wrong with baking in general?

[brazen summit]

Is it safe to uninstall Bakery mid project? Wanted to go back to the stock lighting and it doesnt seem to be baking new lights.

[simple fox]

Yea. You need to switch everything to unity standard tho, the lights n probs n stuff for bakery are custom so they would all not work if you remove bakery, you'd have to replace them with normal unity lights, probes, etc.

[compact flume]

Howdy 🙂 any tips on a simple neon glow for lights?

[void pike]

Change lighting color to match the object that is emitting the light

[compact flume]

can an object alone emit light or do I need to give it a light source?

[fallow lark]

generally you need to add a light source unless it has a particularly bright emissive material

[compact flume]

trying to give this thing a subtle neon glow

[fallow lark]

then yeah you would want a emissive material and probably a little bit of post-processing Bloom

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/lighting-emissive-materials.html

https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/SCSS/-/wikis/Other/Post-Processing

[compact flume]

thank you!

[compact flume]

not sure what im doing wrong, cant seem to get the Post Processing settings to show in Unity

also - what setting do I need to turn on to see the lighting effects?

[fallow lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUsIOKSOXBU

[compact flume]

Yeah I followed that tutorial and got it set up! Guess im just missing something

how can i get the lighting to show prior to me jumping in the world to look?

[fallow lark]

question could you show your whole UI

[fallow lark]

https://i.gyazo.com/15aee979c60c2de76888b9f6ea0a713a.png

click this button so it shows the lighting

[compact flume]

Gotcha - so is there a way to get it to show the actual lighting in a setting Ive missed?

Generate Lighting?

[fallow lark]

that button you should be it ?

[compact flume]

omg xD

sorry i completely missed that

[fallow lark]

you also need to set your objects to static for baked lighting

[compact flume]

I was looking in the lighting menu

[fallow lark]

did the button work

[compact flume]

yep! it shows now

this is correct for baked lighting right?

[fallow lark]

yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU

[compact flume]

thank you!

[fallow lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m02WrMnseVE this tutorial shows off a emissive material

[compact flume]

awesome!

[fallow lark]

glad to be of help hope your world goes okay now

[slow charm]

Merry Christmas Everyone,

Does anyone have experience with AudioLink and making an object react to the music playing in the world??

[compact flume]

very confused on lighting - trying to do a neon light effect, following several tutorials, but its just not working out, emissions are on but cant get it to 'glow'

[next owl]

glow can only be accomplished by post-process bloom

make your emissive material's emission brightness higher than the bloom threshold

[compact flume]

hmm im trying to play with the Post bloom but it doesnt have to have an effect

[next owl]

your threshold is 23

[fallow lark]

https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/SCSS/-/wikis/Other/Post-Processing

[next owl]

that means that if something is to bloom, its brightness needs to be higher than 23

try turning that threshold down

[fallow lark]

"Bloom
This should be enabled and tweaked according to taste.
An ideal set-up means having a low bloom intensity and little to no threshold. This combination means normally lit objects don't produce visible bloom, but bright objects and glancing reflections will, properly simulating a clean but not perfect lens into our world.

Intensity: 0.01 to 0.3, don't go any higher!
Threshold: Below 1.0, but ideally 0.
Soft Knee: 1.0
Clamp: 30
Radius: 7-10
Anamorphic: Ideally 0, but tweak as desired.
Fast Mode: Off, unless your scene has no bright objects.
Dirt: Off. Don't use dirt. As Unity will tell you, "Using a dirt texture in VR is not recommended."

Bloom is additive. Any light that comes out of the bloom effect is added onto the image. If the bloom's Intensity is set to 1, that means the average brightness of everything is doubled, and everything is blurry on top. Also, eye adaptation values are calculated before bloom, so it won't stop your bloom from making the image too bright.

But if the threshold is zero, won't everything bloom?
No, because low bloom intensity means only bright objects will have visible glow!
In VRchat, lighting worlds isn't just about how the world looks, but about how players look in it, too. Because of this, relying on Threshold is a bad idea. This is an example of bad bloom. Because of a threshold, only the bright parts of the image have bloom... but because the intensity is high, the result is completely blown out from just a regular white shirt.
It's also worth noting that a harsh threshold can cause flickering spots of bloom that cause eye strain. So please, ease off on the intensity and threshold! If your world needs bloomy things, make them very bright.
To check your bloom is set up correctly, place a white sphere with white emission at 1.0 strength and verify that it has little to no glow."

https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/SCSS/-/wikis/Other/Post-Processing

[compact flume]

^ I replicated those settings and it didnt seem to have any affect

i think i may have something wrong somewhere else?

[next owl]

then you probably haven't properly set up the post-processing volume.

[compact flume]

thats probably the case, I followed a tutorial for setting it up, they had it set to 'Water' is that correct?

[fallow lark]

https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit this tool has a setup post-processing button on it

[next owl]

i have no idea what you mean by any "water" setting

[compact flume]

Layer - Water

trying to get that Toolkit imported now

[fallow lark]

then it's definitely not going to work if it's only doing post-processing on the Water layer

what tutorial were you watching that was having that be suggested Layer - Water

[compact flume]

xD I did think it was odd in the tutorial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUsIOKSOXBU

[fallow lark]

maybe I should have grabbed a different tutorial

but yeah in general vrchat World tool kit is very helpful

[compact flume]

i feel so bad for asking stupid questions but now im trying to import that with the package manager but nothing is happening

im adding from package the unitypackage file when I open it doesnt do anything

[fallow lark]

you just dragged the package into the asset folder

[compact flume]

ah ok

ty for your help and Merry Christmas btw

[next owl]

that should be on your camera

[fallow lark]

oh yeah that would definitely help

[compact flume]

i dont have the option in Layer for PostProcessing

[fallow lark]

send us a screenshot of your post processing

[next owl]

then this is any separate gameobject, add the post-process volume to it

[compact flume]

this?

[next owl]

if you don't have a post-processing layer, just make it. set it to the highest available index.

you can always test to see if the volume is working by enabling color grading and adjusting exposure.

[compact flume]

the hue shift is working

just not bloom

Its working!

thank you both so much this is my first world as you can tell lol

[next owl]

no worries

[compact flume]

how can I make it so I can't see the gridlines when Post is enabled?

[compact flume]

ty!

[teal star]

Just bought Magic Light Probes, super excited to see how much of an upgrade it is compared to our older light probe placer!

[green vault]

i heard its p good and the person that works on it is super nice

[frigid void]

hello, I am new to making world in SDK3
I am going to try to make my first world

But why is my game objects flickering lights when I move the camera?

Is there a way to fix this?
Hurts my eyes when moving my view around 😅

https://i.gyazo.com/8c1041632bac147e0968738202d7731c.mp4

[sullen solar]

How can I get bloom to work on quest? since it isnt compatible, are there any alternatives? can I bake in the bloom lighting somehow?

[void pike]

To me it looks like an issue with your lighting in your world. Maybe try removing the directional light and adding a new one back and adjust it. Also make sure you shader is set to standard on the platform

[void pike]

In unity, click at the top of the screen: Window, then click package manager, then search post-processing and add it to the scene

[sullen solar]

I already have it tho

[void pike]

I’ve seen some world have it work on quest, I recommend just messing with it until it works well

[sullen solar]

Okay thanks

[void pike]

You’re welcome

[fluid mirage]

im using bakery, I remembered while baking that I forgot something and hit the cancel button. Now when I try to render, it fails, pointing me to the console where there are "index out of range" errors.
What the hell happened?

[fluid mirage]

nevermind, the issue was cancelling the bake left temporary game objects behind

[tardy rivet]

Do I need to worry about Pixel Overlap warnings from Bakery?

[glossy meteor]

overlap is bad in light baking, so yea, what's the precise error?

[tardy rivet]

I think I resolved it, but it was giving an error saying that 200px are overlapping in the mesh. I think that might be less than accidental, because I have a placeholder mesh inside of another mesh that is used for liquid physics

[abstract drift]

Post processing stack V1 & 2 do NOT work on Quest.

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/quest-content-optimization

[abstract drift]

If you want to enable certain post processing effects for quest it would be through some sort of screenspace shader “bypass”

[tardy rivet]

Anyone know if Bakery cloud render works on Linux servers by any chance?

Also:

How can I more effectively block light from bleeding through a wall? Not sure why it is

[fluid mirage]

using unity terrain generation, why does baking do this? where trees in shadow are illuminated randomy?

[tight marten]

So I am still learning lighting for world creation, but when I build and test/click run in unity to look at the world (after baking lights) my area lights disappear and dark shadowed lines will run diagonally across some walls and between seams where two walls are right against each other. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix either one of these issues?

I've tried normal baking and baking with bakery and get the same results.

here's an example of the problems

[tight marten]

Okay I fixed my issue with the diagonal shadows by re-uv mapping the walls and such in Blender, but my area lights still disappear when i hit runtime after baking them. Anyone have any suggestions on what to do here?

[abstract drift]

Trees generated from terrain as speed trees are randomly seeded and don’t have concrete meshes attached. Which leaves you with “meshes” that don’t have proper UV2’s or generated lightmaps

At least I think that’s whats happening

[tight marten]

Okay so I have fixed my area lights and tweaked a lot of the lighting settings, but I cannot get the shadows/lights on the staircase to look less blocky. I have really cranked the bake settings (I believe at least) and the shadows look very clean in other spots, but on this staircase they're still blocky.

Any suggestions on how I can fix the lighting on the staircase there?

Would increasing the scale in the lightmap for the staircase help?

[supple harness]

Disable compression so that there are no artifacts, select the rest according to the desired quality.

[tight marten]

Would I be able to decrease the other quality settings by quite a bit (to bake faster) if I disable compression?

[supple harness]

For quick testing, I usually set it this way, for the final version, increase the values.

Many people recommend using Bakery - GPU Lightmapper for better baking quality.

[next owl]

bakery is a bazillion times better than the integrated lightmapper, it's not even close

you'll have to add a few components to your lights to make it work but it is worth the cash

[tight marten]

From my understanding bakery doesn't work with area lights?

and I'm only using area lights, with a couple point lights to add a bit more overall ambient light

although if there is a better way to get the area lighting like I have it then I'd be glad to do it that way

[tight marten]

I don't believe bakery supports area lights, unless I missed something.

[next owl]

it does, use the bakery light mesh component for area lights

[tight marten]

Oh my god I had no idea.. Thank you, I'll try that out then!

[next owl]

check the docs here: https://manuals.plus/bakery/bakery-gpu-lightmapper-manual

[teal star]

Magic Light Probes is the most hungry thing I've ever run on my PC lol

https://i.imgur.com/az6Zw61.png

[white wadi]

hey guys, whenever i import the vrcbilliards its always pitch black any idea on the proper way to light it? only way ive found is to use real time lighting

[molten kestrel]

I'm worried that I'm going to have to use realtime lighting because baked lighting is so messed up.
Unless I can figure out why it hates my spotlights, I won't have a choice.

Not sure what's making it a bright mess

[molten kestrel]

Perhaps the spheres the spotlights are inside are the problem 🤔

[supple harness]

@molten kestrel All directory light change to point light

[molten kestrel]

Where's that setting?

(back in a few minutes, gotta eat)

[supple harness]

On stage, setting, all global light sources need to be converted into point ones.

[molten kestrel]

Thanks... where's stage? 😅

[molten kestrel]

Unless I'm expected to replace all of my spotlights?

[fallow lark]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/LightingExplorer.html

this tab makes it easy to select all of your lights

[molten kestrel]

Changing them all to point lights didn't help

Using progressive GPU as it's much faster

Reflection probe covers the entire structure

The light probe group covers the outside and inside

The building is a single simple object, which was made in Sketchup

Generate lightmap UVs box is checked

Directional lights are just as broken. Looks like it's not the lights that are the issue.

Deleted the light probe group and generated. Still broken, so that's not the problem.

Same result if I delete the reflection probe

[modest vapor]

Have you watched this ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU

Still confused as to what your world is supposed to look like when it's working

[molten kestrel]

I followed that

Got proper lighting before baking

[modest vapor]

So you got lightmap UVs and no warnings in console after you bake, it's all set to static flag contribute to GI

alright, that makes more sense

[molten kestrel]

Building is static, no errors in console. Here's the other stuff:

If I use a dark grey-yellow, I get this.

[modest vapor]

warnings aren't errors

check for warnings

You shouldn't rely on environment lighting since it's an interior that you're trying to bake

[molten kestrel]

My complete settings list

Got this warning me I have overlapping UVs.

Nothing else though

[molten kestrel]

All the other screenshots use gradient. The lighting is bizarre either way.

All lights are parents of a sphere and dumped under one of them. I don't know if there's a better way to group things.

[modest vapor]

You're using standard shader right ?

[molten kestrel]

Honestly no idea

I would think so though

[modest vapor]

Well that's pretty important to know lol

Not all shaders support lightmapping

[molten kestrel]

If it's just the building, then these are all standard

[modest vapor]

Nice, what kind of textures are you using ?

Any metallic/height ?

[molten kestrel]

Most are like this, but a few (disabled mirror, metal floor in elevator) have both set to 0.5. Light spheres are the exception, which are both 0.75.

Also tabletop and wood textures have only 1 at 0.25

[modest vapor]

Yeah unsure what's going on then, i'd probably suggest disabling all lights, and enabling them one by one after each bake to see if even that works

[molten kestrel]

It seems that disabling the lights before baking makes no difference :/

Still got strange lighting

[next owl]

do you get normal results if your objects are all using a default standard material, no textures? also, are your lights set to "Baked"?

[molten kestrel]

With the exception of range, all lights use these settings

Still getting this when baking

[modest vapor]

Good to know that having no lights ends up being the same result at least

but it means that the environment is still lit by something

[molten kestrel]

I haven't got any other lights 🤔

[modest vapor]

I'd disable the filtering options in the lightmapping settings btw

Set your environment lighting to all black btw, unless you've got a visible skybox in the world

[molten kestrel]

Skybox is visible, but only for the low quality mirror

[modest vapor]

Then all black

[molten kestrel]

I haven't actually got a Sun Source light

Still getting the strange lighting 😮‍💨

[modest vapor]

Delete all lighting, all lightmaps, Edit > Preferences > GI Cache, clear it, save, restart unity and try again

[molten kestrel]

Everything is now completely black without the lights.

[modest vapor]

Good

[molten kestrel]

I get the buggy lighting if they are there though

[modest vapor]

Even just one of them ?

[molten kestrel]

Before

After

[modest vapor]

yeah that makes no sense

Try creating a new point light ?

[molten kestrel]

Still happening with a single baked point light

[modest vapor]

[molten kestrel]

It's a mystery

I could give up on baking and use realtime lighting, but I get the feeling it will kill performance

[molten kestrel]

How many realtime lights can I get away with using?

[next owl]

don't

you'll need to figure out your baking problem one way or another

[molten kestrel]

The problem occurs even with everything disabled. I'm also a Unity beginner so there's not much else I can really do at this point.

[next owl]

okay. your project is using the Built-In render pipeline, right? try creating a completely clean scene, place a few default objects in there, do a test bake. at least make sure your project isn't inherently broken.

what i'm seeing in your screenshot, from here, looks like a baked lightmap with incorrect UVs, like the UVs were modified after a previous bake

[molten kestrel]

I don't even know how to modify UVs

Hang on. I'll delete the main building and bake without adding the textures

Before

After

...looks okay

If I add the textures after that bake (that I can reach from this angle):

Okay then. What happens if I clear that bake and do another with the textures on? 🤔

Still okay!?

Oh wait. Wait. I haven't ticked 'static' on the building.

Uhhh... what's that? That triangle on the wall looks just like the one that's lit up in the buggy bakes.

Breaks with 'static' checked

[next owl]

are you sure you don't have overlapping geometry in some of those broken areas? like multiple polygon faces occupying the same space?

[molten kestrel]

Behaves if I set this to 'light probes'

[molten kestrel]

Definitely not. I was very careful when making the model and overlaps would not be that shape.

Lighting destroys this game

[next owl]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[molten kestrel]

I hate Unity so much

I previously had animations and prefabs that wouldn't work.
I made a copy of the scene for testing and the copy worked with NO issues.
Really shouldn't be a surprise that lighting is also painful.

[molten kestrel]

Hang on, has it only been using 4 of my light probes?

[modest vapor]

And you're sure your environment is static ?

What do the lightmaps look like once you tried baking the world ?

[molten kestrel]

Given up on it. I'll just have to live without shadows.
Had to uncheck static on everything as anything static had lighting issues.
Also swapped to point lights so the ceilings aren't pitch black.
Looks like this after baking:

Could be worse. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[modest vapor]

Yeah that doesn't look like anything baked, very odd

[cosmic torrent]

Do your meshes actually have Generate Lightmap UV's toggled on?

[twilit lily]

lightmap static needs to be checked,
also generate lightmap UV should be checked if you dont already have some made yourself.
if you use bakery, make sure you attached the corresponding bakery light scripts to the lights

if you want you can DM me the project and ill take a look at it if it still doesnt work then

[molten kestrel]

I'll gladly take you up on that. Got some new errors since then too.

Not lighting ones though

[twilit lily]

sounds good! just shoot me a DM ^^

[graceful abyss]

aside from lowering the lightmap resolution, is there any other way I can reduce the filesize for my lightmaps? I have a world that uses lightmaps, and it bloats the filesize

[modest vapor]

How many lightmaps and which resolution do you currently have ?

[graceful abyss]

looks like i'll have to do the scene over again since it currently causes a size overflow error

if it helps to get an idea of what i'm trying to do, i have several rooms layered on top of each other, and the player changes the scenery by pressing buttons on the side

ie, the player spawns in a basement and switches to a cave when pressing a button

they dont move but the room itself changes

originally, each one had its own lightmap, which i did by spacing each "room" out, and then merging them again

[modest vapor]

If you have bakery, I'd suggest using Bakery sectors ! Great use for stuff like that

[rose dagger]

Hey anyone know why my lighting goes straight through some of my faces. The faces were done in blender. Ive never seen this happen. (fixed video)

[modest vapor]

Are you sure about the scale of your world

[rose dagger]

Oh. I had it at x2 scale since i needed it to be big while working on it. Seams like setting that back to 1 fixed it. I still dont know why unity was doing that. Maybe ill scale it in blender so it does not do that.

[modest vapor]

I think that's due to the scale and Unity's camera culling

Unity is notoriously shit at getting at the correct distance of things in focus and constantly loses reference

So it wasn't really your fault

[rose dagger]

Oh alright thanks.

[mental charm]

How could i make a neon bar?

[supple harness]

shader emission + baking + bloom effect

[arctic bison]

I am having an incredibly weird issue where "Generate Lightmap UVs" isn't actually creating lightmap UVs, for some of the meshes in my .fbx file

Using Bakery, this is before lightmaps are generated, as they look awful

And one of the problem meshes only has UV, not Us and UV2

Now some of them look wonderful, but some are not quite right

The problem mesh is still distorted, and hasn't generated UV2

I have followed the same procedure to make lightmaps for each mesh, most are playing nicely, some are just completely ignoring it

I've generated Lightmaps in Blender as a second UV, imported it into Unity, and then click Generate Lightmap UVs, modifying nothing of the parameters

This is making my bake look awful on the house

What am I doing wrong?

[modest vapor]

Is there a reason you can't rely on lightmaps UVs made in Blender ?

[formal spindle]

getting blotchy lighting, heres settings

[fallow lark]

well that's not good to have light probes stuck in the walls

[formal spindle]

moved them inside, same problem

[fallow lark]

could you show me object being affected by your light probes to demonstrate what you mean by blotchy

[formal spindle]

Can in a sec, power went out

also selected static objects on side

[fallow lark]

did you generate light uvs

[formal spindle]

that was it, thank you

forgot about that step

[fallow lark]

it's a very important step as a lot of models have overlapping uv's for increased texture efficiency

[mint cipher]

Checked on one of my older worlds and noticed that realtime lighting no longer effects trees??? was there some update that changed this?

[formal spindle]

lighting when I bake it on quest? how I fix

[lunar narwhal]

change your lightmap texture compression to ASTC

4x4 block size for best quality with file size trade off

[formal spindle]

where do I do that?

nvm, I found it

[river sand]

Hi everyone - I am totally confused and would love some help. I baked my lighting and after baking I got this:https://gyazo.com/2ddd182311bfba597227e9ae79aaa4f8

but then when I go into game mode I get this: https://gyazo.com/8aad3d89bd1a499c60af08799403cbc6

I have been banging my head for the last 24 hours and I have to finally admit I have no clue what I am doing lol

then when I go back into scene mode - I get this again https://gyazo.com/b5e338442a9209f4175461f60fef9263

[fallow lark]

question did you set your objects to static

[river sand]

yep

everything

except for the candles

[fallow lark]

did you set your lights to baked mode

[river sand]

yep!

[fallow lark]

okie dokie just going down the list of common goof-up

[river sand]

nods nods

https://gyazo.com/c943158315f585e9c31440dea815c5b2

I even made them brighter to test

[fallow lark]

weird

[river sand]

yeah

it is driving me nuts lol

I have no errors

[fallow lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU not sure if it would help but here's a baked lighting tutorial to check to see if there's any differences in your settings that might be causing problems ?

[river sand]

haha yep went through it

https://gyazo.com/736adbb45b320c9ffd030409d67904f8

even have light probes

I have tried so many things 😦

[fallow lark]

question have you tried like a test scene that's different to see if the problems persist?

[river sand]

that is my next step

[river sand]

got it!!! https://gyazo.com/69ad735a8edd8b12e3168c65c5f9e637

Bakery did the trick!! ♥

[fallow lark]

glad you got it working

[river sand]

Thanks! I might have just been too tired last night haha

[fallow lark]

yeah definitely can lead to some trouble working too late

[river sand]

lol right? Thanks for your help - that last bit in the video for bakery is pure Gold

[fallow lark]

yep it's a very handy extension bakery

[river sand]

yessss and so fast

I have an rtx so yeah 10 min vs 2 hours haha

[fallow lark]

very nice

[vocal zephyr]

any ideas why my movable pillows dont react to bakery baked lights?

and this is with normal unity baking

[modest vapor]

Because they're not static ?

[vocal zephyr]

yeah but in the second picture you can see they look normal with the unity baking

with bakery they just look blue

[modest vapor]

Doesn't feel like your scene is baked in the first image

also might want to bake lightprobes manually ?

[vocal zephyr]

idk ill try rebaking

looks like the second baking worked

thx anyways

[ionic torrent]

any tips how to avoid getting this, i am using bakery at the moment

these are my current settings

[modest vapor]

More samples, and maybe more padding on your lightmaps UVs

[ionic torrent]

padding?

[modest vapor]

it's a lightmap uv settings in unity on your meshes

[dreamy current]

Hello, how do I make lighting look like this? I've been wanting to add Emissive lighting to get it to look nicer, but I can never figure it out

Another thing is that I can never make worlds look nice like this. I want to make worlds with amazing lighting. Building the world I can do, it's just lighting where it's not the best.

Reference photo is the midnight rooftop

[fallow lark]

that's typically post-processing Bloom enhancing the emissive materials https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/SCSS/-/wikis/Other/Post-Processing

a guide on how to do post-processing and not make a big mess

[dreamy current]

I've been wanting to build an airport terminal. Airports usually have a light behind the airline logo, which is why I want to add lighting and make it more like as if you stepped into an actual airport terminal

[fallow lark]

cool

I would definitely recommend grabbing lots of reference pictures of airport terminals

[dreamy current]

I already have alot, I work at an airport

Thanks for the help tho!

[fallow lark]

nice

https://vrcprefabs.com/ a very handy page to get tools and assets for vrchat

[dreamy current]

Just want to start making nicer worlds is all, at least the lighting portion

[fallow lark]

https://www.pureref.com/ also a handy tool for managing your reference pictures

[dreamy current]

Thanks!

[fallow lark]

it certainly works better than just having a big folder or a big PNG as like a good reference setup could end up with a overwhelmingly large amount of images like oh look I want to make a airport chair let me grab 10 pictures of that and then I would need like 10 more to handle the sign

[dreamy current]

Thanks for the help

Hopefully I can improve myself in the lighting department

[fallow lark]

https://gist.github.com/mauricesvay/1330cc530f6ab2ef33eb6a5ea56ef5bd a website of free PBR materials so you have nice textures to react to your lighting

[mint cipher]

anyone available to help with baked lighting issues?

this is what it is supposed to look like:

and this is what i'm getting in testing

have been tweaking settings/backtracking for an hour. can not figure it out lol

[mint cipher]

it was working fine, then it stopped and i couldn't figure out what changed

[fiery cape]

So I've made these cool light fixtures and surrounded them each with a box of light areas but well, its instantly made the light baking as slow as hell. What's the best way to light with these and not cause the bake to take forever?

[fiery cape]

Switching to single area light + a point light in the middle seems to have resolved things

[fringe dust]

Heyo! I'm looking for a nice string lights asset to use in vrchat worlds I make, any good ones?

[fiery cape]

I appear to be having some kind of overlap going on but everything looks fine on the lightmap. Each wall has been split on to a different mesh now and its own set of UV and UV2s. I'm not sure what's causing the patterning here.

[random oxide]

I assume the lighter areas of the lamp are emissive? You can try using an emissive material instead of lights, these usually take a lot less time to bake. Just have to fine tune the brightness/hdr color value to be bright enough.

[sinful herald]

i come in need of assistance as im not the smartest, i want to make a lamp and cannot figure out which light source to use to make its extremities pop out and be shiny but all i get is light (which is fine) but no light to the lamp surface. anyone know how to do it properly? sorry for the confusing explanation

[random oxide]

The best way is probably to make and use an emission texture for the material of the lamp. In that texture you have to mark the parts that should be emissive and glow. Then add post processing with subtle bloom to make it look glowy.
You probably need to learn some blender and UV mapping to make one of those textures though.

If you bake you light(as you should most of the time) you could also try the double sided illumination but I think that might cause some other problems so I would go with the emissive texture. The light you have right now only affects the front faces and won't illuminate the glass from the back like you might expect it to.

[sinful herald]

Thank you very much! I'm sure I can find some online tutorial help for those methods. I was very dumbfounded by lighting for the past few hours so you are a lifesaver

[sinful herald]

final result

thanks once again for your help

[vagrant briar]

Any ideas for why my lighting in scene view is bugging out but its perfectly fine in play mode? Started happening randomly after adding vrc billards

[open cosmos]

Someone in here good with lighting stuff in unity? Whenever I hit the play button, or upload my world,
all my lightsources just stops working.. If i hit play, they stop working, I stop play mode, and the lights are still off. And only if I delete the lightsource, and then hit CTRL+Z, they work again :/

[open cosmos]

Nevermind! I managed to solve it, after a few hours of internally screaming 👌

[sinful herald]

do you mind me asking what was the issue?

[open cosmos]

I switched from baked light to mixed and then they worked 🙂

[random oxide]

That probably means you forgot to actually bake the baked lights though, when using mixed you are using the realtime light too. AFAIK unity will show realtime lights in the editor until you bake it, even when set to bake.

[open cosmos]

Im not even sure how to properly bake it. I went and did the generate lighting thing but it didn't help at all. Either way it's working now so I don't wanna mess with it xD

[random oxide]

There is a pinned tutorial about how to do it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU
Depending on your hardware it can take a lot of time to bake the light but it will make your world a lot more optimized for the players in it and done properly will also look a lot nicer.

[open cosmos]

well i watched that, but i dont wanna spend all that money for that baking thing, cuz tbh im not dead set on making alot of worlds in the future 😂

[random oxide]

You can also use the built in progressive cpu or gpu lightmapper. Bakery is only an improvement over the built-in one and especially useful for large worlds I think when you have a compatible gpu.
They only explain bakery(the paid thing) after minute 11ish.

[open cosmos]

Ahh, im sorry im still very new to the whole process, i probably misunderstood alot of what they were explaining xD ill look more into it and pay more close attention, thank you!

[mint cipher]

I think my issue was explained earlier. Thank you other person that had the same problem (mixed lighting)

[glossy meteor]

if mixed lighting fixes your problem, you likely are doing something you don't want to do

mixed lighting can have a very harsh performance hit

learning how to bake light is very important and will mostly be a good solution for most worlds

[steep violet]

Okay so how do you get the light the directional lights not to shadow the players ?

Kinda like other worlds do like black cat.

[fallow lark]

set your light mode to bake for everything and it'll only be baked lighting no real-time Shadows

[steep violet]

I get that but when I do it the player looks dark and when I add directional lights I only get light from that way. What do I need to do ?

[fallow lark]

put light probes in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/LightProbes.html

[south yarrow]

How does one put volumetric lighting? Asset Store link? Help?

[fallow lark]

https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/fake-lights

[languid fable]

Does anyone have experience working with Bakery & Kanikama GI?

I can’t seem to get the two to cooperate even though they’re apparently compatible.

[silver kiln]

Is this a okay'ish light probe setup?

it's a bit messy but it should get the job done right?

[arctic lotus]

hi there

is there a way to keep the baked trees shadows on a terrain?

i mean, the shadows baked properly on unity editor but once y upload it to vrc the trees shadows are gone

[fiery cape]

Had a friend experience similar issues, would like to know as I couldn't work it out either.

[wet void]

https://gyazo.com/4e95326efd18a91ec056045c4d3d8ad4
Um...
What is happening here?
Whenever I move the light towards the dark area, it lights up but only the area behind it. It's like the dark separation is somehow connected to the light source...

[wet void]

Directional light didn’t change anything either

This doesn’t make sense…

[modern matrix]

texture is symmetrical so when I bake it the shadows end up being flipped too...

how do I fix this

[modest vapor]

Texture should be irrelevant since it's on the lightmap, what do they look like ?

[modern matrix]

this thing?

should I increase or decrease somethin

[modest vapor]

Select the mesh in your scene and you'll see where it is on the lightmap, then you can see what actual issues you're running into

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU

Make sure to check you didn't miss a step

[modern matrix]

bro

I'm using emissions

anyway here it is

idk what that little square is

I changed one setting let's see if it works

[wet void]

Can I get help on this?

[modern matrix]

didn't work

[modest vapor]

A video of your screen and mesh/shader/lighting settings would help

[modest vapor]

Did you generate your own lightmap UVs ?

[wet void]

https://gyazo.com/26aa1c8bfefb96db73eee34d1b859ed7
https://gyazo.com/0587c988b9ffb2590766b2f55fd89bd7
This is what I thought to screenshot
The shader is the regular standard shader.

[modest vapor]

Any console warning after bake ?

[wet void]

I've tried to bake, but it just keeps going higher and higher

It got up to two hours

[modest vapor]

Lower the texels to 5, you're just testing

[wet void]

Agreed
Sadly, the buildings need lights inside of them and I have never used any lights except directional in my worlds

Need to cool my laptop off, then I'll check

[molten kestrel]

My Bakery guy said they would update my lighting yet again and didn't even come online.
I can't do it myself as I don't have a Nvidia card, otherwise I would have weeks ago.
The lighting isn't anything fancy. Just some spherical lights (which are already set-up), plus some coloured glows in the bar and behind some wall props.
If anyone with Bakery has a little free time, please contact me. You will of course be credited.
Got a helper :)

[rustic cypress]

Is there a way to add an SDK3 Toggle to switch from Baked lighting to Realtime?

[modest vapor]

Sadly not how lighting works

You'd need your environment duplicated and toggle it entirely on/off

[molten kestrel]

@modest vapor this is the right channel for me to desperately beg someone to bake my lighting, right? Or is there a better channel?

[modest vapor]

I don't think anyone will bake your lighting lol

Unless you're willing to pay someone and send them your entire world project

[molten kestrel]

Had to send the world to the guy who did it the first time. I'm almost desperate enough to pay a small fee for rendering at this point.

[rustic cypress]

I'd highly recommend Bakery

[molten kestrel]

That's what the person who set up my lighting the first time used. Unfortunately it requires a Nvidia card, while I have an AMD one.

So I can't update it myself.

[rustic cypress]

ah

[wet void]

Sadly that did nothing.
Console did say I had 144 objects with overlapping UVs. How do I fix this?

Here are some pictures of what's going on in game. I have no idea what's causing this...

[modest vapor]

Did you generate your own UV2s ? Is the other half of your mesh inverted normals or something ? I've never seen this issue before

[hasty ledge]

Have you gone to your unity model importer and checked if the Light UV's need to be regenerated?

[wet void]

You mean generate Light UVs? It’s checked for every model.

[wet void]

I don’t even know what UV2s are

[hasty ledge]

You may need to regenerate them since this seems odd

Its a second layer of UV's

It fucks with light UV's because its not standard

[wet void]

I don’t think UV2s are activated then. I’ll check here in a little bit.

[modest vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU

[wet void]

https://gyazo.com/9d964970b884146d151c7a1bba90900b
Does anything look wrong here?

https://gyazo.com/e1d6ad156f5d95157d924cb79679e578
This is the mesh renderer as well

[lone forge]

You can swap lightmaps with a toggle, couldn't you, in theory, pre-make a lightmap that has completely flat lighting, then swap that lightmap on with a toggle, and turn on your realtime lights?

[modest vapor]

That would need to be exposed in Udon

[lone forge]

Yeah, I still can't wrap my brain around udon, sadly. It overengineers things that used to be very clear-cut :/

I was barely able to get a flashlight to work lol, I still don't know what I did. Others can't see me holding the flashlight anyway

[wet void]

I feel like the baked lightmap shouldn't look like that...

[wet void]

I don't think UV2s are on, and I don't think the mesh has inverted normals. I don't know what I'm looking for and honestly stress is starting to get to me

[modest vapor]

Did you not watch the tutorial video i posted ?

[wet void]

I’ll try rewatching it to see if I missed something…

[wet void]

I tried watching it, but I couldn’t find anything that I didn’t include in my world…

[lone forge]

I don't understand why I can't my lightmap to work. It looked fine in realtime (it always does). Why can't unity just literally grab the pixels that literally painted on the walls from the realtime lights.

GREAT WORK UNITY! That's exactly what I wanted! Good job!

Like I really don't understand what I'm missing. Am I supposed to do extra things since my layout is not a square cube? It's so amazingly convenient that these tutorial creators have a single cubic room in their videos. That's really gonna be a great blanket tutorial for everyone on the internet for sure

[lone forge]

I have decided I am going to use realtime lighting, sadly the VRChat devs will have to weep over the minor performance issue it creates and doom my world from escaping the labs.

Unity just doesn't seem to be a competent enough program to create lightmaps.

[fallow lark]

using realtime lighting is way more than a minor performance hit

liking that screenshot it shows it's going to be seven times more expensive than the baked lighting

[lone forge]

Yeah but watch this

😎

[fallow lark]

you're going to have Dreadful performance especially if anyone turns on a mirror

[lone forge]

I even got bakery and tried using it, and it looked even worse

[fallow lark]

have you played around with the settings of Bakery

[lone forge]

Am I doing something wrong? How do I get it to bake correctly?

Yeah I spent 3 hours on it

wait

2

[fallow lark]

have you generated lightmap UVs

[lone forge]

I think I did? I generated one when I imported the model, but I'm not sure where it put it, or if bakery even used it.

[fallow lark]

yes Bakery uses the light map UVS generated by Unity

[lone forge]

hmmm okay. You might be right, I think I need to find a way to bake lights, because shadows don't show up on an Oculus Quest 2, and the whole reason I'm doing this is to show off the cabin model I made to my grandparents lmao

[fallow lark]

I'm guessing the quest is killing any real-time shadows for performance reasons

[lone forge]

Can you tell me how to generate a lightmap UV?

[fallow lark]

there is a generate lightmap UV checkbox in the model import

[lone forge]

So I'd have to reimport the model? I already unpacked the prefab

[fallow lark]

you should be able to change that setting because that applies to the fbx file

[lone forge]

If I've made changes to the model after I unpacked it though, then won't that just make a messed up UV Lightmap?

I wish I could share screen in here

[fallow lark]

it probably will be fine and it's worth a try

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU and this tutorial shows Bakery stuff

[lone forge]

I hope these light probes are all they're talked up to be

I've got a 30-min light bake, which I hope is a good sign, since before they took about 8 mins'

[fallow lark]

if it's helpful you can lower the baked resolution when you're just doing test bakes

[rotund ibex]

What is happening here

[glossy meteor]

bad lightmap uvs, they seem to overlap, which uv2 may not do when baking

[rotund ibex]

How do I improve them?

And why is this shiny?

[glossy meteor]

watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU

[rotund ibex]

I figured out what it was actually.

Reflections, I gotta lay out more reflection probes

[ornate kraken]

So i'm making a world and my floor has this weird reflection and i was wondering if there is a way to make it not look like that

[fallow lark]

lower the smoothness value or put in a reflection probe so it has a more proper reflection

[ornate kraken]

is there a tutorial you can point me to, im new to making worlds and unity

[bleak orchid]

you edit the material?

for the smoothness value

[ornate kraken]

which is smoothness

heightmap?

[bleak orchid]

thats... different

it would be roughness if there wasn't a texture in it

i usually use the standard shader

[ornate kraken]

i re-generated the lighting and it seems to be good now

[fallow lark]

roughness is basically the same thing as smoothness but it's inverted

[wet void]

Is there a limit to how many baked point lights can be in a world?

[fallow lark]

no not really as once it's been baked it's just been turned into a texture and light probes

[mystic orchid]

Got this model, it's been generating lightmap uv's for the past 2.5 hrs
Just let it go?

[modest vapor]

Yes

What kind of model is it ?

[mystic orchid]

It's a full bedroom

the largest model in terms of mb in the debugger, too

[mystic orchid]

still going ;;
seeing other people talk about unwrapCL.exe not working right...

[lone forge]

Ok, please someone tell me, is there a way to edit lightmaps in photoshop? I've been at this for 8 hours trying to troubleshoot lighting. Bakery is the only thing that seems to get me close to decent baked lighting, but they carelessly didn't include a way to blur the terrible artifacts. This is getting ridiculous. How do I manually edit these?

[modest vapor]

You can edit them in any image editor software

[lunar narwhal]

is this on a quest build?

[lone forge]

yes

[lunar narwhal]

switch your lightmap compression format to ASTC 4x4

[lone forge]

it's uncompressed rn

[lunar narwhal]

as in, the actual lightmap texture files, change the import settings for compression to ASTC

those banding artifacts happen for lightmaps on quest builds on the default import settings

[lone forge]

Do I do that to all of these?

[lunar narwhal]

yes, but oh my god why do you have so many

[lone forge]

I'm not sure

I've been trying to get this to work for like 10 hours so maybe they're duplicates or i did something lmao

[lunar narwhal]

probably because you're baking at 512 resolution

[lone forge]

Oh right, yeah I did that to save time while I was testing, does that make more lightmaps?

[lunar narwhal]

yeah

[lone forge]

Should I rebake before I compress these?

[lunar narwhal]

if it can't fit it into a single 512x512 lightmap it makes more

nah, just compress to see if that solves your issue first

[lone forge]

oh true

[fallow lark]

it would be more efficient for it to be a small amount of larger textures because that means more objects can be batch together

[lone forge]

Where do I find ASTC 4x4?

oop nvm i see it

[lone forge]

Honestly you should be on the VRChat team, you help out every single time I come here

I think you even helped me once at like 4am

[fallow lark]

I tend to have a nocturnal sleep schedule

[lone forge]

@lunar narwhal Okay, I love you.

I'd give you a wet kiss rn if I could

[lunar narwhal]

my condolences for your 8 hours spent 😅

[lone forge]

It seriously looks so good

[fallow lark]

glad the problem was able to be figured out

[mystic orchid]

absolutely wild. 12hrs later, it finished

[lone forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLU6A4JWsWk

This was the tutorial I was thinking about. Do you think this is possible with udon?

[fallow lark]

that tutorial is literally just toggling on and off two different versions of the map that have been baked not actually swapping the light map

like the entire geometry duplicated twice

[glossy meteor]

the parts needed to swap lightmaps are not exposed to udon

[sturdy bone]

soo, after i baked the lights in my world, its now deep fried, in short words, can anyone help me here?

[sturdy bone]

i redone the scene, redid all the emissions and textures, and i realized, it might be issue with the skybhox, cause without it, it renders all fine

[formal spindle]

whats the best way to get rid of small artifacts. like dark spots in creases

[calm basalt]

You could try increasing your indirect and environment sample sizes

[fresh field]

hello

idk why this light is not working

[modest vapor]

Your environment isn't baked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU

[fresh field]

tysm

[thorn sparrow]

After baking my lighting, all of my lights suddenly got extremely white. All of the warmth disappeared. Any ideas? If there's any info you need, just lmk.

[thorn sparrow]

Was using temperature and not a filter on my lights, duh

[sturdy bone]

It's been doing this for good hour now, for some reason while I'm trying to bake

[lost brook]

Anyone knows how to resolve the following:

• building vrc world-
  I made bloom effect using this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi1OBXUIuKg using postprocess layer.
  And it's there in unity. But build test doesn't show it at all. I re-baked light few times but it didn't helped. And I am stuck ;---;

[sturdy bone]

Check if in the vrcworld prefab the reference camera is set to the one you use

[lost brook]

it is, main camera. I have only one ..

[oak elbow]

look at nothing in scene

[sturdy bone]

oh, thanks

[sturdy bone]

then im unsure, once i get to doing that after baking if you still didnt get it fixed ill try to help

[oak elbow]

I had the same issue idk

[lost brook]

not fixed. I was trying different shaders too, but all same. it is awesome looking in unity and in play mode as well but do not transfer to vrchat testing build..

[tight marten]

Anyone have any ideas why this "shadowed bleeding" is occurring on my walls? This isn't the only spot, but this one it is really prevelent.

for reference, these are my settings for this bake.

[formal spindle]

Doubled both to 1000 and still the same. When I use subtractive instead of shadow mask it looks normal. But then stuff that moves doesn't have shadows. Could I bake in 1 then change to other?

[next owl]

Does the built-in render pipeline support HDRI images on Quest? My skybox looks pretty chunky and I assume support is limited or non-existent, but it would be nice to have a definitive answer.

[hushed coral]

Despite having Generate Lightmap UVs enabled as well as increasing the Pack Margin, I am getting black spots on my meshes

I have sort of fixed it by increasing my Lightmap Resolution size from 40 to 60 but now there are very clear separations from light to dark in certain areas of the scene

[lone forge]

I swapped my build target to Windows and my lightmap unapplied itself... Anyone know how to fix that?

[lone forge]

Oh epic it didn't unnapply itself, it corrupted itself!

Good thing unity doesn't save backups in case that happens!

The uploaded build is completely blacked out. I have to re-render and replace the files with backups because I hand-edited some of the lightmap textures in photoshop

[tardy rivet]

Anyone else have Bakery just sort of freeze up at "Unloading scenes..."?

[tardy rivet]

It really took its time but it finally got past that

I think it's just because my terrain is huge

What is standard procedure for rendering like, big sweeping landscapes? My world is set at night and mostly just a couple of hills near a lake, I think it's just spending a tooon of time on Baking... I'm considering just doing realtime because it got good performance without any changes :/ any tips?

[glossy meteor]

depends on your gpu and your bakery settings

[coarse hill]

i keep having this error spammed and having my whole computer crash when i attempt to bake my lighting i can't find a single thing named "wintermute" and ive already changed all my furniture assets in scene so i don't think its any of those (i only have 1 directional light, a post processing layer, 2 reflection probes and 1 particle system ) how do i fix it? if theres a way ?

[sturdy bone]

another day, new issue, does anyone know why some indoor stuff has those weird like really strong white squares?

rest of the scen is fine, just this one indoor being stupid

[wooden flicker]

If you baked it with Progressive GPU, just clear the baked data and bake it again

If thats not the issue i wouldnt know

[tardy rivet]

I was using default Bakery settings, tried reducing it. GTX 1060

[tardy rivet]

I think this might be my issue lol

The cloud prefab was rendering lighting

[tardy rivet]

it still doesn't want to bake ;~;

[tardy rivet]

Reposting so I can hopefully get some help here --

So I have a world that is incredibly large but mostly empty. It's nearly real scale data, a little beach in front of a huge lake and a mountain in the background. Bakery takes absurdly long to lightmap it. Is there anything I can do to speed up the bake? I get decent performance with real-time but obviously I should avoid it if possible

[versed herald]

please help.
I have bakes lighting and i have an object that can be toggled. How can i have baked lighting on the object that is turned off at the time?

Id like to bake the lighting of an object that is turned off (hidden)

[versed herald]

if anyone knows how please dm or ping me

[tardy rivet]

Using light probes and letting the item be non-static is what you want, I think

[hallow hound]

@versed herald if the object not moving why you not bake it and after its done close the object again it gona have the bake light stil you have turn it off

[formal spindle]

so I just got bakery to try and fix issues with artifacts, and it works fine, but now I don't know how you make other objects cast shadows that aren't static

[tardy rivet]

Anyone have any idea why a Baked light wouldn't be working? All I can guess is because the object is so huge it's exceeding the lightmap size or something..? The rest of the light bake seems to be working fine, and the skybox light is affecting it, but the point light isn't for some reason. The screenshot shows real time

[glossy meteor]

is it marked as contribute gi in the static flag?

[tardy rivet]

Yeah it is

On my phone now but, first photo shows one chunk of the mountain
Second photo is the baked light settings
Third photo is how it looks after bake
Fourth photo is if I enable the standard unity real time light

Very confused

[glossy meteor]

not sure what you mean, it has been light baked though

[tardy rivet]

The mountain is split up into multiple objects because it's very large

It seems the light i want to bake isn't affecting it

The "Area Light" light has a range of 800 and an intensity of 150, but the mountain is still entirely dark outside of the skybox

But when I enable the real time light with the same settings it's crazy bright

[glossy meteor]

area light? you mean point light?

you likely want to use the bakery directional light for this

[tardy rivet]

Yeah, "area light" is the name of the object, bc it was converted from a unity area light originally. I would rather use a point light because I don't want the whole map to be illuminated though ;~; i just want to brighten up the mountain a little bit .. I'm considering just giving it some emission lol

[glossy meteor]

you may need a higher intensity and indirect intensity
also may need more samples

[tardy rivet]

Those are both things I haven't considered so I'll try that thank you

How does indirect intensity differ?

I think you probably just solved my woes, it was set to indirect only and the indirect intensity was 1. I bet that's the issue

Rip

Likely my fault for using an area light to begin with lol

I'm pretty new to lightmapping stuff

Gonna let it bake, let's see how it goes

[glossy meteor]

indirect lighting is light that bounces on static meshes, the indirect intensity amplifies the power this indirect light yields

[tardy rivet]

So standard intensity and indirect intensity are related?

Still no luck after increasing indirect intensity :/ no change

[glossy meteor]

try intensity and range and samples too

[white fox]

After I remove a piece of furniture how to I update the lighting after I delete a item so the shadow goes away?

[glossy meteor]

you will need to bake again

[tardy rivet]

Is there a good way to estimate range? Like I would think pressing the "copy from realtime" button should do just that :/

[glossy meteor]

baking is different than realtime calculation
there is a bakery preview extension but it costs

[tardy rivet]

This is so frustrating even when I set everything to absurdly large values it doesn't even slightly change the results ;-; i wonder how much of a performance hit one realtime light on it would be

[glossy meteor]

what are you bakery settings?

[tardy rivet]

Pretty standard

I think I need to just switch to directional, you're probably right

[twilit lily]

so you tried using an area light with bakery?

@tardy rivet

try using the bakery light mesh instead of the point light for the area light, keep the unity light component attached tho

[glossy meteor]

use full and not indirect render mode

i would use 5 bounces too but that will take longer to bake
and up your min resolution to like 2k

i also recommend using xatlas as atlas packer

and optix should be faster than open image denoise as denoiser, which optix depends on what bakery recommends you

[tardy rivet]

I'll try giving that a shot, a light mesh object instead?

[tardy rivet]

The water I'm using seemed to suggest I need indirect render, for some reason ;-; I can get away with it?

I will try switching those as well, thank you!

[glossy meteor]

the water? what water? where would it say such?

[tardy rivet]

Im using this water system--

https://www.patreon.com/posts/32252234

[glossy meteor]

no, this has nothing to do with light baking, it solely refers to needing a real time light

[tardy rivet]

So as long as a real time light is present in the scene it'll function properly?

[glossy meteor]

the patreon package should offer an example z buffer object too which you can drag in, since there are some more expensive settings you can turn off on the realtime light to have the minimum requirement

[glossy meteor]

yes, but please look into tweaking the light as said, the project should have that

[tardy rivet]

Yeah I have been using the z buffer object and it seemingly is doing the trick. I'll try switching to the other settings you suggested but I'm probably just gonna set the mountain itself to be emissive rather than bake a giant area light because it's presumably less computationally intensive but yeah thank you for helping answer so many questions, I really need to spend a day experimenting with all of the Bakery settings and getting a better understanding of it

[glossy meteor]

well, at least try full rendering mode, emissive mountain won't look as nice i assume

[twilit lily]

just instead of the bakery point light a bakery light mesh

[glossy meteor]

pretty sure the indirect bake mode was the problem cus they had no changes at all

[formal spindle]

trying again

[mystic orchid]

Trying Bakery lights for the first time!
Shadows are a bit extreme in their darkness, especially for the amount of light in the first pic-
any suggestions to fix this?

(Realtime is top, baked using bakery is bottom)
Also, I've noticed that non-bakery baked lighting ignores light temperature, which is really annoying ;;

[glossy meteor]

look into the bakery skylight for that

[mystic orchid]

Baking (without bakery) causes my lights to lose all color- how do I fix that?

[next owl]

make sure all your materials are within the safe albedo range. if the albedo texture is too dark for non-metals you won't get bounce light

[rugged harness]

There doesn't seem to be any shadows with the realtime lights perhaps?

[mystic orchid]

It'd be hella funny if it was just my eyes after having worked without shadows for so long

Tfw that is what it is

[pine trench]

I totally get that lol. I had to disable real-time shadows in my map because they were way too heavy with the size of the map, and it just looks so flat now without em.

Gonna wait til the whole thing is ready before baking any lights though.

[glossy meteor]

real time shadows do not affect file size, if you mean that by world size

they are calculated in realtime after all

[viscid siren]

how long did it take you to put the room together (not including lighting, just the furniture and walls)

[marsh pond]

so I have realtime global illum on and have a baked scene with light probes and it doesn't work ingame, I also just have a realtime reflection probe set to it's own layer to catch just the tv that's at 16x16 to add a tiny bit of spice but the realtime global illum isn't working.

works in untiy

in game

realtime reflection only working ^

just noticed i'm using 29f instead of 31 maybe that'll fix it

[modest vapor]

Are you using bakery ?

If so you may need to edit a line in one of the scripts https://hai-vr.notion.site/World-Lighting-abc870d06dd647ac9fcd60fe60af05d9

[marsh pond]

no currently just the game haha.

unity*

[pine trench]

Oh nono I meant the physical size of the world, it was too big so having realtime shadows really bogged down performance. In some areas where there were a lot of shadows, and a long distance visible the framerate would drop to about 12

Sorry if I forgot to turn off the ping btw

[timid sparrow]

i was working on a world, and my lighting borked up... can someone help?

[green vault]

are the lightmap uvs generated?

[dreamy canopy]

How to add music to a world in sdk2

[thin steppe]

Anyone has any idea why gameObject (here the couch) does not cast a shadow ingame despite doing it in Unity? (Cast shadow is set to true)

Lights are all "Realtime"

[glossy meteor]

how many lights? unity does not support many realtime lights at once and you should likely bake this scene's lighting

[thin steppe]

I guess more than 4.

Every light in my scene is realtime

Where can I increase the max amount of supported Lights?

I increased the standard VRC Ultra Pixel Light setting from 8 to 16 but it seems that it gets automatically reset to 8 after compiling the world.
I will try and set these lights to baked then.

Still no shadows :/

[twilit lily]

pls bake

[thin steppe]

Did

And no lights show up

[twilit lily]

is it marked static?

[thin steppe]

The world or the light?

Baking only works on static?

[twilit lily]

the objects

[thin steppe]

Ah okay, I will try that.
I have a lot of physical objects that can be picked up

Those will not receive any light then?

[twilit lily]

dont mark them as static

they will recieve light from light probes

[thin steppe]

Ah okay!

Thank you 🙂

[twilit lily]

no worries

feel free to DM me when you have any issues ^^

[thin steppe]

Thank you 🙂

Quickly gonna try an udon script to see if that works and when everything works, I will go back to the lighting and try setting the world as static

[thin steppe]

Oof, baking's gonna take a couple of hours

[twilit lily]

what GPU do you have?

[thin steppe]

GTX1660

[twilit lily]

which lightmapper do you use?

[thin steppe]

Unity standard I guess

[twilit lily]

there are 3 lightmapper in unity

[thin steppe]

Where can I check that?

[twilit lily]

enlighten, Progressive and Progressive GPU

[mint cipher]

does anyone know why it looks sooo bad when i bake lights with quest as my target platform

[twilit lily]

use Progressive GPU

[thin steppe]

Progressive CPUI

ok

[twilit lily]

change to GPU

[mint cipher]

and these are wayyy darker than they are supposed to be now

sorry for interrupting as well

[twilit lily]

aside from the compression?

[thin steppe]

Thank you guys!

Uncompressed

[twilit lily]

meant the question above me 😅

[thin steppe]

ah okay 🙂

[twilit lily]

but in general, GPU is always faster than CPU

[thin steppe]

When I change to GPU it keeps switching back to CPU

[mint cipher]

clarify

[thin steppe]

it says Progressive GPU (Preview)

[twilit lily]

thats the right one

also try reducing samples and texels per unit to make it go faster

[thin steppe]

What is a realistic number that still looks pretty?

[twilit lily]

for indoor i usually use 32 - 48 texels per unit and 64 samples (with Bakery)

[thin steppe]

Yeah, when I change to GPU after a couple of seconds of baking it switches back to CPU

[mint cipher]

im very new to this stuff all i did, was set all my lights to baked and set everything to static and baked it and now it looks like garbage

[twilit lily]

it seems like you have a compression issue on the textures

[mint cipher]

how can i fix that?

[twilit lily]

also check that "generate lightmap uv" is enabled on the meshes

[twilit lily]

oof, i would have to look myself, gimme a bit. iirc i asked hte same thing in here

[mint cipher]

im not seeing that

[twilit lily]

its in the import settings on the model itself

like when you select it in the asset explorer

also try this for compression

#world-development message
here the link

[mint cipher]

@twilit lily

i did the override part

but where is the texture compression option?

[twilit lily]

on the textures

wait, lemme fire up unity real quick

[mint cipher]

is it the format?

[twilit lily]

there ya go, and yes, its format

its on the texture that has the compression issue

[mint cipher]

i see a ton of astc

[twilit lily]

i used the 4x4 block and it worked for me

[mint cipher]

alright

so just override for andriod and set to 4x4

anything else before i rebake?

well

[twilit lily]

iirc it fixed it automatically

also add reflection probes and light probes if you havent already

[thin steppe]

It kind of sucks that it switches Progressive GPU back to Progressive CPU all the time.

"OpenCL Error. Falling back to CPU lightmapper. Error callback from context: Max allocation size supported by this device is 1.50 GB. 3.00 GB requested."

Can I reduce any specific lighting values to still be able to use the GPU lightmapper?

[mint cipher]

Where do i add those

[twilit lily]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU

[mint cipher]

following this tutorial rn but my light probes are completely invisible

this is all it looks like

tried increasing gizmo scale but nothing

[mint cipher]

found the solution

reset layout

[dire compass]

whats the least laggy lighting to use?

[glossy meteor]

just full baked lighting

[dreamy current]

Finally figured out the glow effect thanks to you guys! Here is something I made in Blender. I made a sort of Hexagonal "Wall Lamp" and imported it into Unity. No materials, just straight from Blender into Unity. I made emissive materials and added them onto the inner ring, where it shows what color the light is. Some input would be nice. A lot of colors can be combined to make beautiful walls with these hexagonal "wall lamps". Just testing what I can make.

Edit: you can remove the center to make a complete lamp

[marsh pond]

got bakery and tried this and now the rgi isn't even working in unity

[modest vapor]

Did you rebake it ?

That's been the only way to do it for a while now

[marsh pond]

using bakery right

rebaked a few times and it just doesn't seem to. do much

[modest vapor]

Bakery still relies on Enlighten to bake realtime GI

[marsh pond]

mmm gotcha

means i have to use this right

[modest vapor]

Yep

[marsh pond]

gi works in unity now thanks will tell if it works ingame 🤞

[marsh pond]

@modest vapor sadly rgi still doesn't work ingame.

[modest vapor]

Are you toggling it with something or an effect ?

[marsh pond]

it's a media player so it's just on all the time

[lunar narwhal]

you need to be calling RendererExtensions.updateGIMaterials every frame to update it for rtgi

(expensive)

[marsh pond]

is that an udon thing?

[lunar narwhal]

yes

[marsh pond]

not saying I want it to be every second I'm sure I could delay it

[lunar narwhal]

yeah, you can do frame skipping so the performance hit isnt too terrible

[marsh pond]

but like I'd rather it look like this

then this

[marsh pond]

thanks for the help

[royal latch]

hi lighting experts i was wondering what would happen if I baked my directional lights without putting down any light probes or a reflection probe?

[twilit lily]

it would look flat (no reflections or just basic skybox) and dynamic objects such as avatars would be black (most likely)

[royal latch]

I've heard that baking lightmaps can take a while but it's been like 20 minutes and I'm still at 0/11 creating geometry.. is it possible that my computer just doesnt have the specs for this or will it work if i leave it going for hours

my cpu is 4.2 ghz quad core intel i7 and gpu is radeon pro 580

[twilit lily]

speed depends on resolution of the lightmaps mostly

[royal latch]

No matter what lightmapping settings i put (lowest res, 1 texel per unit, smallest lightmap size) I still get stuck on "0/11 Create Geometry 1 Jobs" forever

[lean robin]

guys, i need help with the lighting in my new world, I want to apply the black skybox texture, and retain normal lighting, but i can't figure it out

[sullen solar]

Can someone help me get rid of the red spots on the ceiling?

For context i have some area lights under that location, and the ceiling is set to Receive Global Illumination from Lightmaps

[rapid nexus]

Anyone know why when i bake spot lights, the light disappears after? only the light from the directional gets baked

[twilit lily]

is it set to baked?

[rapid nexus]

yeah it is

heres what its supposed to look like then what it looks like after its baked

[twilit lily]

the mesh set to static too?

also disable prioritise view in the lighting settings when you are at it

[molten kestrel]

I followed the tutorial and I'm currently stuck with this mess.
Most posters and on the walls are too dark to see (unless I max out 'metallic')
Some prefabs are super shiny, and dark/desaturated like the posters.
Some shadows are also very strange.

Here's how it looks without baking:

I'm using progressive GPU, because CPU takes 10 times longer.

My lighting settings

All lights are using these settings:

Ignore the Bakery tab, I'm not using it.

Someone please help, the world is almost finished 🙏🏻

(I also have no idea what 'MLP Manager' is, but it's not in use)

[glossy meteor]

ensure to bake your reflection probes too

[molten kestrel]

Just checked and they are set as baked 👍🏻

Baking them and then generating the lighting after makes the room rather painful to look at though 😅

[glossy meteor]

you generate the reflection probes after baking

do you use post processing or strong emission? the scene looks like it will need further tuning in this regard