world-lighting

[fluid mirage]

one large area, and 1 small room

the two street areas do not have light probes as they are normally inaccessible

so its more like this

and i have settings set like so

well i think I found what the issue was- I had 2 sets of the same light probes by accident

that'll do it

[fluid mirage]

yet I still have trouble. Man this is so stupid.

if it's not one thing causing trouble, it's something else

it just hangs at one thing or another, every time

what the absolute fuck

[modest vapor]

That's a lot of unneccesary lightprobes for consistent lighting

[fluid mirage]

yeah that was the duplicate. this is what I have currently after cleanup

[modest vapor]

You should delete probes where the player can't be

[fluid mirage]

yeah I cleaned it up a bit

wasnt that many to clean

mainly around the top, and those corner ones

not sure it'll make a difference for my issue though

I know baking can take time, but it consistently get stuck at the same point

"Rendering direct light Directional Light" at 20% forever

there's no way when another map I have takes less

[modest vapor]

make sure you don't have an frender process still active on your computer

I've ran into that issue with bakery for the first time recently as well

for seemingly no reason

[fluid mirage]

I cant say i see that process anywhere

[weary sequoia]

Could someone explain to me why these lightmaps are so messed up? I think that it could be the lightmap UV but I dont know how to fix it

[modest vapor]

Did you generate lightmap UVs on your meshes ?

[weary sequoia]

when I did that, It would just get stuck for ever, and never generate the lightmap UVs

[modest vapor]

Depends how complex the meshes are

so it can take a long time

[weary sequoia]

I dont think I have that complex of meshes, would you be available for a voice call so we can discuss this more thoroughly?

[modest vapor]

not really sorry, you should start by adding this to your project https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit/releases

[weary sequoia]

for the past 8 minutes, I have been waiting to generate the lightmap UVs and it hasnt even started XD

[fluid mirage]

I once had to leave a mesh running overnight for it to generate lightmap uvs

[weary sequoia]

did it fix the problem?

[fluid mirage]

I mean yeah, but it took all night, because the mesh was very complex

I ended up taking it back into blender to simplify it a bit

[weary sequoia]

you simplified the uv maps?

[fluid mirage]

I simplified the mesh

it was very high poly

which was why it was taking so long to generate

[weary sequoia]

well mine is literally just a house with a couple pieces of furniture

[fluid mirage]

when you say you tried to generate lightmap uvs on your meshes and it took forever, did you try one at a time?

or all at once?

[modest vapor]

"couple pieces of furniture" means nothing if you got them from random sources. It could be a 3M poly couch

[fluid mirage]

every time

[modest vapor]

clearing everything in the bakery lightmap folder, clearing baked lighting data and restart your computer to try again

[weary sequoia]

I fixed the problem, I was trying to generate all the lightmap UVs on every mesh at the same time

[modest vapor]

that's not a problem, it just takes time

[fluid mirage]

this is ridiculous.
I did it and restarted, and tried again. and, it worked! but it looked like ass. But here we are again, every time I try to bake again, it hangs up somewhere along the line

now its not even initializing the probes

[modest vapor]

Yep, it's a new issue, i've managed to bake one correctly fully out of 12 attempts, so i'm not touching it again

[weary sequoia]

Does this look unnusual to you?

[modest vapor]

quite

[fluid mirage]

man, I hate light baking.

[weary sequoia]

is there a way I can fix this? (Without spending 50 dallars on bakery)

[modest vapor]

What are your current settings ?

[weary sequoia]

Im using progressive cpu, because i want the afterglow on the emmissive object towards the bottom of the walls

[modest vapor]

You need more than 1 bounce, increase lightmap size to 4K and enable compression

[fluid mirage]

so i figured i'd try to use unity's default light baking method. And im running into several brick walls.

for one thing, I bake, and some areas are just arbitrarily dark, despite having light probes.

also, I cant seem to figure out how to have one area be darker than another. like, with the realtime lights, the directional light that illuminates the main part of the map, and that smaller room, are set up by their layers so that the light does not interact with that room. And I have 2 small point lights in that room instead.

and yet when i bake, it acts as if the directional light was in full force in there

[modest vapor]

light probes is for dynamic objects

What are your lighting settings ?

[weary sequoia]

I did everything you said to do and it looks a little better

[fluid mirage]

I know the skybox intensity is why, but man, there seems to be almost no way to make both areas have different light levels. i dont get it. i dont want the skybox to dictate the light, I want the lights to dictate the light

[modest vapor]

Don't set it to skybox then

[fluid mirage]

it doesnt seem to matter what I set it to

I cant seem to make it treat different areas differently

[weary sequoia]

Is there a quick way I can cover an object with area lights, without placing them manually?

[fluid mirage]

without some sort of addon that does it for you, probably not

[weary sequoia]

also, are area lights suppose to take a long time to bake?

[fluid mirage]

dunno

probably depends how many you have

cant say ive messed with em much

also, bakery seems to be behaving now, but again, I cant seem to figure out how to make it treat the two areas differently.

the main area is bright, so i have a single directional light.

but for this room, I want it to be dark.

like this. this is pre-bake

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/676922803781500938/818986898264948767/Untitled.png

but when I bake, I get this

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/676922803781500938/818990140814000169/Untitled.png

and i can't edit the lighting to make this area darker, or the rest of the map will be too

not to mention it doesnt really matter, as I might be able to make the objects darker, but the environment itself will remain bright

because it seems to be drawing from the directional light despite the layers telling it not to

[modest vapor]

What are your light settings like ?

[fluid mirage]

and the 2 point lights are set up like the left, while the directional light like the right

and worth noting again, that the entirety of the content in the small room is set to a layer that the directional light is set to not interact with

so everything is environment, the room is environment2, and the directional culls it

[modest vapor]

Why are you using a directional light ?

[fluid mirage]

because it illuminates everything in the main area without fuss
it was originally just that main area, and then i added the other room.

||should I just use a huge point light?||

[modest vapor]

I'm confused as to why your directional light is affecting the inside of your house i guess

[fluid mirage]

ill try a point light and see what happens I guess

[mint heart]

So still having an issue where if my illum map is anything but pure white it stops all emission of light

[fluid mirage]

point light makes little difference. baking is still treating the entire map as a single piece when baking

[hallow hound]

i dont know if 100% if it is so but you got no shadows i maybe wronk no shadows no dark places also the sun the shine going inside the wall why it cant make the black texture why no shadows maybe this why it is so bright but i not sure was only a idea

[modest vapor]

@fluid mirage You should reset your bakery settings and use experimental

Make sure all meshes are set to static

[fluid mirage]

i think i found out what the issue is. A bunch of objects had, under their mesh renderers, "light probes" set to off

wow. 2 days over that shit

currently in the process of tracking down all the offenders, but the moment I enable it, they spring to life

thanks regardless, ruuubick

[modest vapor]

Once again, light probes don't matters for baked objects

Unless you're just baking the environment and nothing else, but i'm not sure why you'd do that

[lunar narwhal]

If you're experiencing issues where bakery just randomly crashes midbake at different points each time, you might have a stability issue with your GPU's overclock. Even if the OC is stable in games, it may not neccessarily be stable for bakery, because its running CUDA accelerated jobs, and doesn't tax your gpu the same way as games.
I was experiencing random crashes with bakery until I dialed back the OC on my 1080 from 2000mhz to 1800mhz. Your mileage may vary depending on gpu.
Ironically, dialing the OC back also made the bake time significantly faster, which really shows I had some serious stability issues there.

[fluid mirage]

I dunno man, I just know that that seems to be fixing it.

[modest vapor]

Then the objects aren't lightmap static

[fluid mirage]

then all i can figure is it's something about mesh renderer vs skinned mesh renderer, or something else I'm overlooking

[lunar narwhal]

you can't bake lighting on skinned mesh renderers

at least not on enlighten i believe

[lunar narwhal]

https://geom.io/bakery/wiki/index.php?title=Manual#Skinned_mesh_renderer_support

UV padding adjustment does not work on skinned meshes (Unity seems to crash when attempting to call Unwrap function on them);

might be the cause of your crashes on bakery?

skinned mesh renderers are used if they're going to be dynamic I imagine, be it moving the bones or using the blend shapes, if they're going to be static its probably better to remove bones/blendshapes on them in blender and import them as a static mesh.

[fluid mirage]

I havent had any crashes since reinstalling bakery.
though mind you, those crashes were with the regular unity lightmapping not bakery

I havent had any crashes lately

though now I'm getting ftrace errors from bakery

if its not one thing, it's another

and regardless, what bothers me is that it seems that bakery is ignoring my lights, which have the bakery light component

and instead going off of the lighting settings environment lighting

which is set to black or, dark

I dont get it, all the relevant meshes are set to lightmap static

they should be baking just like the actual room mesh itself, which is doing fine

well. was doing fine.

also I had the padding disabled

[lunar narwhal]

when I say bakery crashes I meant things like the above error

anything show up in the console?

in any case, my issues with bakery throwing random errors in the middle of baking were addressed by tuning down my GPU's overclock during baking

[fluid mirage]

ive never really overclocked my gpu

[lunar narwhal]

most gpu's these days come factory overclocked out of the box

[mint heart]

Emissive materials are gonna give me an aneurism

[mint heart]

Anyone know why enlighten would just be stuck on bake visibilty?

[weary sequoia]

Does anyone know why this lighting bug is happening? All the lights in the scene are baked

[untold helm]

@weary sequoia is that happening immediately following a bake? That behavior would imply they're currently realtime.

Some things can break a bake and cause lights to start behaving as realtime

[weary sequoia]

what causes that? You are correct about them acting like a real time light, but shouldn't I not be able to see the baked lights in the editor, if there is no light map?

btw, the video is my scene without a lightmap

[spare lichen]

how do i make my world darker for sleep mode?

[golden stone]

most people use post-processing to lower the light levels, assuming baked lighting some people also swap out lightmaps as well

[sonic star]

The pillars, walls, floor and ceiling all use the same shader, but after baking lights, no matter how much i pump up the light intensity only the pillars get brighter. Does anybody know what this could be? (p.s. this is my first time ever making a map)

[hasty ledge]

Could be the pillars have emission light or possibly used an unlit material

Double check your stuff

[sonic star]

oh, i forgot to make the pillars static

so now my problem is, no matter how much i bump the intensity of the lights, the static objects only get marginally brighter

using real time lighting the room looked bright with the intensity at 4, now it looks like the screenshot with the intensity at 30

[hasty ledge]

What I said before

Is your material for your pillar an emissive or an unlit material

Or is it a standard shaded material

[sonic star]

the pillar, walls, floor and ceiling are all using this

[modest vapor]

Disable the emission ?

[sonic star]

emission disabled, it's still very dark

this is right beside this light

[modest vapor]

occlusion mask to 0 ?

What are your light baking settings

and how does it look on the lightmap

[sonic star]

here are my settings

[modest vapor]

Are the pillars also black on the lightmaps ?

[sonic star]

lightmap

[modest vapor]

Also i'm not sure the baked shadow radius should be that high ?

try with 0.3

[sonic star]

0.3 baked shadow radius?

[modest vapor]

yeah

[sonic star]

ok, gonna report back in ~7 minutes

ok, this is looking more like what it should be. thanks for the help

this is after setting the occlusion to 0 and baked shadow radius to 0.3

[modest vapor]

You should still be able to use the occlusion map

but shadow radius at 10 is pretty much a flat shadow on everything i'm pretty sure

[sonic star]

ok, i'll play around with the occlusion map value a bit then

[mint heart]

So my emissive textures seem to only work sometimes

[full mica]

Is there a way to determine what light is affecting something in bakery?

Getting some weird lighting and I'm not sure what's causing it. I thought it was the strip lighting at the bottom but I turned that off and did a preview and the blue was still there

It definitely has to do with the handles being there, if I disable them it doesn't happen.

[verbal cape]

So Ive noticed an anomaly with a few avatars in some of my rooms rendering as black silhouettes at most angles using all three lighting types depending on the build. What causes this?

[lost imp]

Used Window > Rendering > Lighting > Fog to generate world fog, but it's not getting picked up by VRC mirrors. Also I'm trying to find an Udon toggle for this type of fog.

[verbal cape]

RenderSettings.fog = true;

If you dont have success try using the post processing fog. That is easier to play with.

[lost imp]

I don't think I understand, but I might as well try the Post Processing fog. Thanks for letting me know.

[undone flower]

How do I fix this? Light keeps dimming out looking directly at it. I'm currently working on it but haven't uploaded the changes yet

Nvm I figured it out, light range was doing that to me

[full mica]

Light probe inside a mesh?

[hazy tundra]

Anybody can help me so i baked the light now the floor is lighened everywhere and only one of my two lights is working

[full mica]

Okay, I am absolutely losing my mind lmao. Does anyone know why my bakery mesh light is not producing a solid light? I have played around with it and rebaked so many times, and it looks totally fine in preview mode

Preview

[modest vapor]

How many light meshes do you have ?

[full mica]

A few, but that strip is a single light mesh

[modest vapor]

What difference do you see between preview and bake ?

[full mica]

I posted a picture of the preview too

The strip lighting is solid in preview but not in the final bake

[modest vapor]

I genuinely can't tell the difference

[modest vapor]

Oh, are you talking about those, i was looking at the chairs my bad

What are your settings ?

[full mica]

Ahaha, gotcha XD

For bakery or on the light?

[modest vapor]

both

[modest vapor]

I'm surprised you don't have samples near for your light mesh

You tried enabling self shadow ?

[hazy tundra]

Anybody can help me so i baked the light now the floor is lighened everywhere and only one of my two lights is working

[full mica]

I've rebaked a bunch so I'm not sure at this point but I thiiiink I did

[modest vapor]

Was the main denoise option causing you issues ?

[full mica]

I've only used Open Image Denoise, pretty sure it defaulted to that

You think it might be the denoiser?

[modest vapor]

Sorry i meant the denoise fix bright edges option

but for the denoiser algo i'm not sure if there's a difference, worth testing though

[full mica]

Ya, I'll switch to Optix 7, reading Bakery's manual it says it's probably a bit faster anyway with similar results

And the fix bridge edges was also defaulted to off

[feral nymph]

oh cool, just found that there was a lighting section.
I want to avoid asking very basic questions so anyone know about a simple tutorial i could watch or read on this? so far when looking around those beginners video seem to be a bit farther than i would like.
I want to use something different than just the default lighting setting but there so many options and terms.

[crimson verge]

ok so i'm having a weird issue i dont remember what i did but i messed with some stuff and now for some reason any emissive objects on the map when baked, their light spreads far farther than they should

its like they have no falloff or something

you can hardly tell in the scene view but the lightmap shows it much better, how the parts that should be black are blotchy and filled with color

they should have some light but only very close to the lights themselves, it used to be fine before an update but i'm not sure what changed it or how to fix

googling and going through unity docs didnt help

when i enter the room in vr, the walls are all blotchy and glowy like and look awful, but they should be black like a dark room, with those glowing objects in the back

i believe it may be because environment reflections was turned down, but i turned that down because with it being on, everything in the world was glowing blue due to the large blue structure for some reason

but i'm not sure how that would affect or if thats even it

and i certainly dont want to turn it up because it gives the entire world a blue tint (much more obvious on the transparent objects and on players when they look in mirrors, they're blue)

so any idea how to make those emmisive objects still glow bright, but not spread across miles? i know its possible as i had it perfect before, but something broke

[mint iris]

Currently working on an a world which uses UDON. When in scene view realtime GI works just fine, the second I press play and test it or even test it ingame, the realtime GI stops working. Anyone have an idea why?
The same setup works just fine in my SDK2 world.

[crimson verge]

i was advised to not use realtime GI when building my world

i imagine you shouldnt either

[lunar narwhal]

if you're using realtime GI for emissives and you want them to update on texture change, such as video screen emissions, you need to call RendererExtensions.UpdateGIMaterials, which means they can be costly to update in real time, as it has to be called every frame, but you can also do frame skipping etc.

[crimson verge]

anybody got any ideas on my question i posted above yesterday?

still havent figured it out, i've been going through different settings and bakes for a few hours

[stiff latch]

Any quick checks I could do to figure out why my light baking runs at "0.02 mrays/secs" ? that doesnt sound right

[heavy folio]

so i was making world with dim lighting but people still wanted to see avatar so i made light with player and player local

it works but only for standard shader and some other shaders

but it dosent work for some shaders like toon

what should i select for the lighting ?

[stiff latch]

PSA: I had terrible baking times (0.01 mrays/sec) and fixed that by removing all LodGroups systems from map, or maybe it was because I emptied the cache server (went to 2.77 mrays/sec)

[drowsy violet]

is there a way to simulate volumetric light in vrc? (headlights)

[modest vapor]

there's a few prefabs for that

silent, noriben

[silent coral]

How do I make a material glow?

I have this AV videoscreen but I want it to emit light

[vocal oar]

Put the render texture in the emission slot of the material

[silent coral]

uhhhh?

can I do that with a videoscreen?

[silent coral]

?

[vocal oar]

Presumably

Ive done it before

Gotta swap out the material with standard shader if it didnt already use it

[silent coral]

I did but then it doesn't display the video

[vocal oar]

Idk then

[silent coral]

shiii

[graceful jetty]

What's the best way to create water caustics? I know there are special water shaders that do it, but I need the caustics to appear on a ceiling above the water instead of underneath.

[modest vapor]

Well the caustics would appear on whichever mesh you apply the shader on i'd expect

[graceful jetty]

From what I remember, the shader projects onto surfaces that are inside the mesh

so you'd have a cube or something with the shader applied, and you'd scale it to overlap the terrain

[wicked trench]

does anyone know how to get the directional light to not glare onto reflective materials? i've tried putting it on a separate layer and using the culling mask but it doesnt seem to work. idk if its possible but figured i'd ask

[modest vapor]

Which shader are you using ?

[foggy vapor]

@wicked trench Yes it is possible, on the hardware of your FBX object you deactivate the Highlights and reflections options

[modest vapor]

If they use a shader that has those options, hence my question

[silent coral]

Is there anyone that could help me with making club style lights?

I have these animatedmovingheads and lasers but I can only adjust their color in the inspector, I want them to use the same color as my AV videoplayer

I can't just apply the material because that will just result in a cone shaped video

[celest sedge]

is there anything like simple light probe placer that works for sdk3? I used to use this but now it gives errors when uploading world

[green vault]

@celest sedge you have to use it then remove it due to mishmashing errors

[celest sedge]

I don't want to reinstall it everytime I want to use it

[green vault]

theres a script somewhere that has the mishmashed premashed

[pale spruce]

@celest sedge I use this. https://github.com/laurenth-personal/LightingTools.LightProbesVolumes Didn't test it with SDK3 but you could give it a try.

[ocean onyx]

could someone help me fix my world? i set up light probes and baked light everywhere but it doesn't work. The problem is that my avatar gets really dark. It scares me so someone help now

[modest vapor]

Did you bake the light probes ?

[ocean onyx]

oh shit.. i forgot this ste0

[pure moss]

Whats a good way of going about doing lighting for all these trees? Right now the two options it seems is: Setting as non static so it does real time lighting (I think), or Static so it is baked lighting. But with baked, even on 0.01 Lightmap scale it seems to take ages just to even prepare the bake.

[modest vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU

Your terrain is also very large

0.01 is pointless

[toxic viper]

can you try to bake using gpu

[pure moss]

Ive tried before, the VRC compatible version for Unity doesnt have good GPU bake support (No double sided textures and shit), I could get Bakery but thats like 40 bucks 😭

[toxic viper]

try Lighting tab > environment lighting > source : color

[pure moss]

How much of an issue is that? I wanted to have a decently open area to have a nice view for the windows, went for a low poly and low lighting resolution, didnt seem to cause any issues

[modest vapor]

Is the terrain also 0.1 and static with generated lightmap UVs ?

[pure moss]

Yeah, its not realtime

[shy root]

Hi, so I was trying to optimize my world. In doing so I went to generate a light map, and now my whole world is basically all black, any idea on what I did wrong?

[lunar narwhal]

You may want to take a look at the tutorial pinned in this channel
Also make sure objects in your world are marked as light map static and have generate lightmap uv's checked on your imported meshes

[shy root]

Okay I’ll take a look and get back to you! Thanks!

[shy root]

How would i fix overlapping UV's?

it says i have 225 objects in the scene overlapping

[modest vapor]

Did you generate lightmap UVs for all of them ?

[shy root]

i generated a whole scene uv map, is this what you mean? - sorry very new at creating

[modest vapor]

Your entire scene is a single object ?

[shy root]

no, i just clicked the scene and generated a uv map from that.. assuming thats wrong?

I need to individually select each object and create one?

[modest vapor]

ah yeah that's not a thing

You need to select all static objects meshes in your assets

[shy root]

Starting to understand. So I would go in to the object itself (that I have set to static) then generate a map for each? Or is there a way to do it all at once

[modest vapor]

Do you have an asset folder where you have all your meshes ?

If not you'll have to find them all manually

[shy root]

I have the original asset folder given when you begin the creation. But I haven’t made a separate one containing meshes

[warm cliff]

anyone know how to fix this?

So the light probes work well, until the dynamic object gets too far or close to the ground. It then starts to sample the darker light probes farther away, like in the back alley.

[modest vapor]

Do you have lightprobes below your ground ?

[warm cliff]

nope

i even raise them and the same results occured

[modest vapor]

If the lines are going into the ground, i'm pretty sure there's lightprobes there

[warm cliff]

lines are only going into the ground due to the sidewalk elevation

all the light probes are above ground, and it still doesn't explain why being under ground causes influence from a light probe so far away

[modest vapor]

Because you don't have enough in this case, it should be the three closest, but I've seen too many cases where it wasn't the case, like yours

[mystic gust]

any idea why this weird streaking occurs when light hits the bed?

[viral igloo]

I'm not sure what might be causing my lights to be dark in world, yet in Unity it looks fine. Baked the lighting twice to be sure, same result. Only started doing this recently.

[pure cobalt]

Is there a bug with post processing working in editor but not VRC? My volume is set to environment along with many assets.

[modest vapor]

area light is baked only iirc

[modest vapor]

follow silent's tutorial, you probably missed a simple step

[pure cobalt]

hmm yeah i got some other issues too. particles aren't showing. naniiii.

I copied working settings from an sdk to project. I think somethings wonky

Looks like I may have it fixed. I forgot to put in a reference camera. Simple steps bite me.

[vocal oar]

You have to assign the scene camera to the reference camera slot on your vrc world object

[pure cobalt]

Yeah. I jusy missed it. Stupid me

I found out by looking at another world i did

[elder yoke]

Have anyone tried to implanted a volumetric fog in VRC?

One member of my team said unordered access view and compute shaders are not usable in VRC so there’s no better ways to get it working

[modest vapor]

Silent made one recently, which she may publish eventually, Red_Sim also has one in the form oh his water shader

[elder yoke]

Thanks I will ask silent about it

[jovial sky]

so how much of a performance hit is real time lighting vs. baked lighting when the room is relatively small and objects are static for the most part? the room in question is a movie room so i'd like to be able to slide the brightness to dim the room a bit, but when the room is baked it's kind of pointless to try and change the brightness.

[green vault]

@jovial sky if it is small, then there is no real excuse to not bake lighting. but realtime-lights-noshadows has the least effect on performance. then hard shadows-realtime, then soft shadows-realtimes is the most impactful on performance. if you plan to not bake anything. at least do not use shadows

[modest vapor]

mixed > realtime

make your objects static

[green vault]

mixed + generate lightmap

[vocal oar]

my favorite lighting setup is mixed, bake shadowmask, then turn off shadows on the mixed lights

although i suppose if i wanted to get more in depth i could keep shadows in player and turn off shadow casting on everything in the scene after the bake

for indoor scenes i just have one mixed light per room and the rest are baked.

[pure cobalt]

I've been using the progressive GPU myself. I have bakery too. But, I don't think I've been able to get it to work

[modest vapor]

[vocal oar]

yeah i prefer progressive because every time i've tried to use bakery it gets an error and shuts down everything

especially if i try to us RTX

[modest vapor]

Wtf are y'all doing that bakery crashes lmao

[vocal oar]

bakery no like my map but progressive does

i actually had to straight up delete bakery from my project because it was fucking up my normal lightmaps from progressive

[modest vapor]

[vocal oar]

I would bake lightmaps in progressive, and then when i hit play the lightmap uv would offset itself somehow and screw up everything

after deleting bakery it stopped happening

[edgy forum]

i actually had to straight up delete bakery from my project because it was fucking up my normal lightmaps from progressive
I've heard this from others too

[flint harbor]

so, I have my desktop monitor configured pretty well in terms of brightness

but when I go into VRchat, things that looked pretty dark in Unity, are actually fairly bright

does vrchat use gamma or linear?

like, I put this on a quad in an unlit material, and on my screen I can't read the numbers on the top row, but in vrchat I can read them clearly

just wondering if there's anything I can do to make the view in Unity look remotely like it does in my headset

other than changing my monitor's gamma completely

[edgy forum]

Linear. And are we talking unity - vrc desktop, or unity - vrchat vr?

[flint harbor]

oh good point -- VR

I guess I should check how it looks on desktop too

[edgy forum]

Yeah, I had this 'problem' too and I tweaked my monitor brightness & other settings to match what I saw in the HMD

[flint harbor]

hmm, dang

[edgy forum]

It mostly resolved it

[flint harbor]

yeah I guess the headset is probably better calibrated

[urban burrow]

how do i make it so when avatars look in mirros they arent dark

[modest vapor]

enable pixel light

[warm cliff]

@modest vapor you sound like a man or woman who knows a thing or two

i kind of have no clue why this happens

in unity

vrchat upload, stretched texture

both normal and lightmap uvmaps are unwrapped and should not have this weird stretched effect

[modest vapor]

I'm waiting for someone i know who had this issue to see if they fixed it or not, since i hadn't seen this happen before they mentioned it. I'll get back to you if they do

[mint cipher]

@twilit lily My world is leaning towards horror-focused, and contains many dark areas. Would you say these settings would be optimal?

The world with all other components already bottoms out at nearly 200 MB (it's 180 MB), so I don't want to crank up anything further that might increase world size even more.

[twilit lily]

world size is mainly determined by the texture resolution

how large is your lightmap already?

[mint cipher]

I understand that much, at least

[mint cipher]

lightmap?

[twilit lily]

go into the lighting tab

at the bottom it says your lightmap size

[mint cipher]

about 26.9 MB, according to Unity

[twilit lily]

then the lightmap is not your problem

check every texture and reduce its size to ~512 for larger ones and ~256 for small assets

[mint cipher]

Ah. I already have Crunch Compression on for (I believe) almost every texture used in my world. Max Size at about 1024. I suppose I could shrink it down a bit more...

[twilit lily]

and do you have a lot of animations in your world?

and huge meshes with a lot of polygons

and yes, LODs take a stupid amount of filesize

but for the lighting, you can really go like that. Bounces mostly take time to compute rather than space to store

and the lightprobes, this should be enough (or even overkill, never really looked into it how to handle them best)

[mint cipher]

Yeh, I'm just afraid of how much space it'll take up. the world already takes a pretty dang long while to compute even with Bakery. About 4-7 minutes or so.

[twilit lily]

mine is like this, and thats nearly the entire UPD Station now. and 4-7 minutes is not long at all

i regularly wait 30-40 minutes for Bakery to finish

the unity CPU lighmapper would easily take over an hour on this

[vocal oar]

And progressive gpu would say "error, falling back to progressive cpu"

Speaking of bakery. Anyone else have a problem where it wont bake shadows for terrain trees?

[green vault]

i think theres a check mark for terrain trees iirc

[vocal oar]

Hmm

[twilit lily]

yes there is

[vocal oar]

Ah so no rtx with trees

Big sad

Rtx bake is stupid fast

[green vault]

ye, uses more cuda i think

[languid fable]

Does anyone know if it’s possible to bake & export lightmaps from Blender?

[vocal oar]

Yes, ive seen blogposts about it in the past but idk how exactly you do it.

[vocal oar]

my god people keep saying bakery is amazing but it's giving me nothing but trouble

it's been stuck at 3% "adjusting sample points" for the past hour

[haughty owl]

Everytime I mess with Bakery and render something, I go to test my world and the Download size just keeps increasing. Is there anyway to fix that?

[modest vapor]

check your console, might be actual warnings/errors

Your whole bake shouldn't even take an hour with bakery

[fossil temple]

Is there a way I can mimic volumetric lighting in vrc? I'm pretty sure vrchat doesnt let you use the actual type but is there a way to make the fake?

[modest vapor]

Shaders

Silent is working on one and Red_Sim has a water shader that can help with this effect

Really depends what kind of visual you're trying to achieve

[fossil temple]

Yeah but I'm just wondering. I've been making a horror map, and when I was trying to add some volumetric light I just got very demotivated to finish it, because I can add that creepy vibe. y'know?

[modest vapor]

If only you knew lol, i've had a project on and off for two years because i can't do proper volumetric fog

[warm cliff]

any news?

[modest vapor]

nope sorry

[pure moss]

why does this light bleed happen :<

Would adding a wall between the two rooms fix this? Or is there a light setting I can change

[pure moss]

It did

[modest vapor]

Are you making the world in unity ?

[pure moss]

made in blender imported to unity

making that wall fixed it buuuut

unity just loves light bleeding :)

[modest vapor]

Do those walls actually merge ?

[pure moss]

honestly idk, im probably gonna remake the room from the ground up, seeing as the geometry/mesh is so fucked from me going back and changing things 10 million times

i will keep that in mind thouigh

[prime aspen]

Hey, can someone @ me some good unity lighting tutorials? Not the basic stuff (I know the technicalities), but rather any hints/tips to make the level actually feel polished and believable. I always fall short of that point

[oak acorn]

im having a lot of trouble getting baked reflection probes to work

ive got all the level geometry marked as static and lightmaps generate fine

but reflection probes dont seem to reflect anything but the skybox unless set to realtime

[wise flower]

what'd be the best way to create a neon light effect?

kinda like this ^

[green vault]

bake lighting with bright emmissive materials

[wise flower]

for some reason the emmissions i have arent working

like i turn the emmissions up and hit generate lighting and nothing

idk if im doing it wrong or whatever

[green vault]

are they static? you could also try post processing

or fakebloom

[wise flower]

how would i do that?

[green vault]

so whenever you bake lighting, you hve to make sure everything you want to have light baked on have set to “static”. if you click on a mesh in the scene and go to the top right of the inspector. there should be a thing called “static”

and then you open lighting settings and hit bake (if you have any other light sources, be sure to tell them to be baked as well and not realtime)

[wise flower]

oh yeah, im definitely getting it now lol

thank you

gonna fuck with the settings for a bit now lol

[oak acorn]

I dont know why but my lightmaps are distorted all the sudden

and its only for the level model too, everything else seems fine

[lucid onyx]

✌️ I made one room where it's very bright and another room far far away. But the light in the other far room should be dark. It is effected by the other rooms light. Do i need to change it with the probes?

[modest vapor]

@oak acorn Did you use high compression on your mesh ?

[oak acorn]

dont believe so, I think its something to do with the UV maps themselves

[fossil temple]

any reason why my generate lightmaps is stuck? ive been sitting here for a moment and its stuck onlight transport

[modest vapor]

Did you generate it in unity ?

[oak acorn]

nope, was modelled in blender,but i did enable lightmap UVs

[modest vapor]

You tried adding a big plane inbetween the two rooms ?

[modest vapor]

If the world/geometry is large, it'll take a while

[fossil temple]

yeah but past few times it did it almost instanly. now it just freezes and im stuck there for 30 minutes until i cancel it lol

[modest vapor]

Can you post a screenshot of one of your meshes settings and your lighting window ? Try baking again and make sure to check the console afterward

[modest vapor]

Did you do anything between then and now ?

[fossil temple]

only add a lightbulb or so

[oak acorn]

well the thing is that i got it to work(ish) by using CPU lightmap generation but now i have this problem - shadows are misaligned

mesh

lighting

theres also this weird seam here

[fossil temple]

well its mostly outdoor so i dont think i have worry about that to much. i tried something real quick and i wanna see if it works

[modest vapor]

You might want to increase the texel count

[fossil temple]

its my first time messing with optimization so i havent used alot of bake lights before lol

[oak acorn]

what would be a better texel count?

Im not exactly sure what im doing with unity's lighting tab, i only managed to figure out what most of these do a day or two ago 😅

it looks fine in blender but that doesnt really mean anything, at least that'd rule out problems with the uv map

[fossil temple]

nothing really transports its self from blender unless its uv maps lol. but honestly i would mess with the texel count and see what works better

[oak acorn]

ah nevermind i recreated the thing in blender, do i just have a bad understanding of lights or does that angle seem strange on the perpendicular wall to the left?

[fossil temple]

i wouldnt trust how lights look in blender compaired to unity. its more than likely an issue with unity. are your using baked or realtime?

[oak acorn]

mixed

[fossil temple]

i would use baked. baked helps with optimization. i dont think that would really be the issue for the seam though

unless your roof is separate polygons

[oak acorn]

its not, tho i think i had a gap in the roof somewhere since unity's object outline highlighted the seam

i went back into blender and patched it up

increased the texel resolution and it seems fine now*

[modest vapor]

The light shadow makes sense to how it's placed

You can try 30 texels

[wide finch]

World has been generating lighting for several minutes now, is something wrong?

It looks like it just keeps repeating

[modest vapor]

bottom left corner

[wide finch]

Yeah I ended up starting over

I'm not sure why I keep getting the same error

[modest vapor]

go to Edit > Preferences > clear the GI Cache and then restart Unity

clear the lightmap data in lighting setting before trying to bake again as well

[wide finch]

Aye aye

[wide finch]

The lighting in the world I'm making for some reason causes my avatars to be very bright and almost white? I'm not sure what to do about it

Issue seems to only be present on unity chan shader models

[royal swift]

So i tried to make a lightmap in unity for the first time. After an hour with a 3070, it did this mess on the ceiling and basically nothing else.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782417374367186995/824848630976348201/unknown.png

This is the directionality map unity generated. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782417374367186995/824851062350413824/unknown.png

[lunar narwhal]

did you have generate lightmap uv's on all the meshes?

[royal swift]

in the fbx import settings, yes

when i try to generate a lightmap uv for the world in blender, it just goes unresponsive

[modest vapor]

Yeah, that's expected

[oak acorn]

So I created some lamp objects, is it possible to set them to lightmap static without casting shadows on things?

for example this

[green vault]

ye, go to light settins and set it to enlighten and change the shadow settings

[oak acorn]

but wouldnt that change the lightmap settings of the whole scene?

[green vault]

you can change it bck and it should remember. im not sure if the gpu lightmapper will follow the new settings but it should work

[oak acorn]

oh its just this, i just gotta use CPU lightmapping i guess

[green vault]

ye, but i think you can switch back to gpu if you wanted to

[lunar narwhal]

switching back doesnt do anything unless you actually rebake

you're going to have to bake with cpu progressive/enlighten if you dont want objects to cast shadows i guess

[sonic star]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/815657305844482051/826915509139144785/unknown.png?width=1004&height=629
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/815657305844482051/826915612851830834/unknown.png?width=997&height=629

both inside and outside lights are exactly the same, why are the inside ones so damn dim

baked lights, all objects are set to static

[versed herald]

I just want a basic everything is lit up. how do i do that? I got a "sun" way above my world in the middle. however some shadow are ugly or not wanted. how can I fix this

ig my main issue is when using a mirror the characters are dark on the mirrors side

[versed herald]

currently to fix this I used multiple lights in different areas of the mirror. any better way?

[stiff latch]

My unity crashes everytime I try to bake my map :| Straight back to desktop, no error popup.
I tried various lighting settings and clearing cache, doesnt seem to change a thing.
My only clues is I recently set all my mixed lights to baked, and also disabled light probe on some geometry.
Any ideas what could cause it or how to debug it ?

[modest vapor]

Check your crash logs/console logs from the previous session ?

[royal swift]

Please help. How can I make unity generate better lightmap UVs? How can it be this difficult

Like literally how is it this screwed up with the directionality

[modest vapor]

Is your whole world a single mesh ?

[royal swift]

almost

all the chairs, my avatar statue and this dome structure are all separate

basically anything with actual textures is separated. the main architecture of the world just uses basic materials

[modest vapor]

You should make areas objects, and generate lightmap UVs for those in blender

[royal swift]

kinda hard to break up an open club setting, but if i do it in blender, would it be better to just bake the lightmaps in blender too?

[modest vapor]

no i mean breaking it in terms of areas, and then join those objects in a big mesh

rather than a giant whole mesh

[royal swift]

When why split it up, that sounds contradictory. I've never done this before so i don't get what you mean.

I can't find any good blender and unity workflow tutorials for actually preparing a world for generating lightmaps.

one forum says to just let blender generate it all. It appears unresponsive, but might take hours.

[modest vapor]

You're trying to unwrap your whole ass world into a single UV, so yeah, Blender chugs

so instead, select a bunch of objects close to each other, join them and generate a lightmap for those instead

https://youtu.be/UnUn4nRoh-E?t=116

[oak acorn]

ive baked this a 100 different ways, i just cant get the lighting to light up my bathroom stalls

lights are set up like so

ive tried point, no change, spot, no change

[sharp robin]

@oak acorn What are your lighting settings?

[sharp robin]

So it's just those lights in that position that don't work?

[oak acorn]

yeah

ive tried shifting them up,down,left,right messing with the intensity

i just cant get inside the stalls to light up

[sharp robin]

If you move one of those lights outside of the stalls into them will that light it up?

[oak acorn]

ill try that

still baking but it doesnt seem that that fixed it

[sharp robin]

My only guess is that its geometry/uv issues

[oak acorn]

yeah, the surfaces seem super stretched, ill check the uv maps

oh, well that explains it, it seems i forgot to map the uvs alltogether

[royal swift]

If blender could use more than like 2% of my 3900xt to generate these UVs, that'd be great

[oak acorn]

hmmm

[versed herald]

is there a way to have the entire map lit up without having multiple light souces? I dont want any shadows

[green vault]

change your materials shader to an unlit color/texture

[versed herald]

huh? will that work for characters too?

[green vault]

for avatars, change GI to a whitr color

[versed herald]

GI? They are not my characters. I have a world to save avatars. My light source is above my world in the middle. however when running around or placing objects there will be shadows when im not facing towards the middle. Like if im lookingt towards my mirror the front of me is dark while the back is lit up. so fix that i just put toggle lights by the mirror.
-I guess what im looking for is a way to light up the entire map without casting shadows.

[green vault]

GI

go into lighting settings and set the “global illumination” to a color and set it to white and that should make all avatars brighten uo and not need a light source

[versed herald]

ok. random question. is there a way to teleport back to center in unity? it legged and now im lost

[green vault]

press F to reset camera position to an object. or double click object in hierarchy

[versed herald]

i press F and nothing happens. and what is hierartchy

oh. am dumb

[green vault]

the hierarvhy

[versed herald]

yeah found it

ty

[green vault]

👍

[versed herald]

ok so where od i find the lighting settings

[green vault]

uh lemme try to remember lol

ok, so at the top. click on the windows drop down-> then go to rendering-> then lighting settings.

icr exactly what unity calls GI but its the 2nd thing from the top

[versed herald]

this wut i got

[green vault]

it is environment lighting. set source to a color and set it to bright white color (id set realtime global illumination so you can see what it does)

[versed herald]

ok. did that and gave it pluss 1 intesity ig. ill check it out. ty.

think you can help me in the world-dev chat?

[fossil temple]

i keep getting issues with unity lmao. my baked lights wont bake onto my world and i tried mixed but it acted as a real time light and dint bake. any way i can fix this? ive been looking everywhere but i cant get it

i can send screenshots if you need it

[modest vapor]

Screenshots would help yeah

[fossil temple]

what do you need?

[modest vapor]

Why are you baking shadowless lights ?

Also color temperature won't work that way sadly, requires a script

It's definitely baking since you have 15 lightmaps

so check the console and actual lightmap files

[fossil temple]

it didnt work when it was shadowed either lol i was trying to find diffrent ways

[modest vapor]

Also your culling mask is set to Mixed

[fossil temple]

wait how do i change that again

[modest vapor]

By clicking on it and adding the layers

[fossil temple]

oh im dumb lmao

still nothing

[modest vapor]

are your objects static and have a shader that support lightmapping ?

[fossil temple]

yep

its odd cause it worked earlier. but then i add these in and it just refuses to work

[modest vapor]

"these" ?

[fossil temple]

point lights

[modest vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU

Check this and make sure you didn't forget a basic step

[fossil temple]

nada

could it be an issue with something in the terrain? it bakes onto that bulletin board but just not the ground

[modest vapor]

https://youtu.be/ESGUg7SKmRU

The rest should bake fine though

You should try to bake individual pieces first

[fossil temple]

idk i ran out of time. thank you though

[oak acorn]

I have no idea how, or why, but whenever I build light maps, my CPU clock drops from 4ghz to 1.8ghz
consistently, without change, no matter the circumstances. temperatures seem fine - under 60°

[stiff latch]

I do have a crash logged in the editor.log file, but apart from telling me it crashed I dont really see anything giving me a hint.
Seems to crash at "[PathTracer][CB] Custom bakes reset." / "RtlUserThreadStart()" if im reading this properly.
At the end of the log im advised to check a file for more details, but the provided path doesnt exist

[modest vapor]

Does the crash still happen after a computer restart ?

Running out of memory could maybe cause the crash

[stiff latch]

Yes unfortunately, still happens. Baking did work before my changes. I have 7Gb free ram, and it crashes even at low lightmap settings. Right now my only guess is to remove every single light and see if that works, then put them back one by one and see if theres a culprit among them. Not funny :|

[modest vapor]

Did you also ask in the Bakery server btw ?

[stiff latch]

I do not use Bakery due to negative money on my bank account

[modest vapor]

Trying to bake individual objects first might be better

Or baking in an empty scene even

[stiff latch]

Baking individual objects is something I wasnt aware was possible. Ill look into that. Ill also do the empty scene try, worth checking.

[stiff latch]

Well I finally have a track to follow. Disabling all lights including skybox didnt change a thing, but deleting a certain big prefab that seems to be allow baking again. Now to figure out who the culprit is in this prefab.

[stiff latch]

For future reference : My light baking was failing because of a recently added mesh. I dont know what was wrong with it, but apparently enabling "optimize mesh" (and maybe "swap uvs" too) in the mesh import setting fixed it.

[royal swift]

What do i do if i can't join objects together without it breaking textured materials?

[fossil temple]

ok so i tried doing everything i can still wont work at all. idk what im doing wrong at this point

[modest vapor]

might want to make a new project and try piece by piece until it doesn't work

[fossil temple]

oof

thats gonna be fun lmao

so what just try and get lights to shine on a terrain baked right?

[modest vapor]

that or your trees yeah

[fossil temple]

it goes on normally

[modest vapor]

So what's the remaining issue ?

[fossil temple]

i think it might be shadow mask

but when i use that it stalls

or not..

let me look a bit more

literally cant find the issue lmao

i mean realtime lights work but i need baked for optimization

could overlaping objects be the issue?

[modest vapor]

Do you have a giant collider casting shadows everywhere on your world ?

Did you check your lightmaps btw ?

[fossil temple]

what do i look for in the light maps? and no

[modest vapor]

click on a mesh in your scene, it should show the lightmap in the inspector

[fossil temple]

sorry unity died for some reason. do i look for my terrains light map or just any where?

[modest vapor]

for terrain not sure

[fossil temple]

Yeah that's the main issue is the terrain

[modest vapor]

You followed all the steps in the above video ?

[fossil temple]

Mhm

i dont think its the reason but i hidden some particles i added in. so maybe it will see past it idk

i cleard the baked maps and its supposed to look like this kinda. but obv it wont bake onto the trees and terrain

I give up ill work on it later

[lunar narwhal]

In terrain settings check if its marked as lightmap static, and that the scale in lightmap isnt 0

the lightmaps for terrain should also show up there

you might need to hit play mode to get them to show up in the inspector

under Terrain, Settings, Texture Resolution section

[fossil temple]

tried that lol

bc when i open up the light map for the terrain unity dies

except for this time ok den

[lunar narwhal]

that is a massive terrain lol, not sure how practical it is to bake lightmaps for it

[fossil temple]

well if i use real time it gets unoptimized so it will help

[lunar narwhal]

size asside, not sure what could be stopping yours

I've baked lighting on terrain without issue, but i'm using bakery

[fossil temple]

it worked before i did something

i cant remeber what i did exactly

[lunar narwhal]

do you still have resolution set at 512?

because that is tiny, especially for a terrain that large

[fossil temple]

all of it was stock before but ill see

[lunar narwhal]

If unity bakes the lightmap for your whole terrain as a single 512x512 lightmap, a single pixel on that lightmap would correspond to a 2m square patch of land, so you can imagine it would be difficult for the lightmapper to encode lighting information with that resolution. I could be wrong in that assumption though, and it bakes multiple 512 lightmaps for the terrain, but you get the idea.

[fossil temple]

yeah

it got more difficult when it stalled and i was just messing with settings

[lunar narwhal]

but do note that the gpu progressive lightmapper is rather hungry with vram

4k resolution requires 13gb vram? iirc

[fossil temple]

Idk

I push that poor card everyday so I'm not to worried

I'm just trying to see what gets it bake

[lunar narwhal]

I mean, the lightmapper will fail if you dont have enough vram

[fossil temple]

Yeah I worked my way up

None work

[lunar narwhal]

what do the baked lightmaps for the terrain look like?

[fossil temple]

Wym

[fossil temple]

Wasnt it this

[lunar narwhal]

was this after a bake?

hm, i would expect it to say baked lightmap rather than realtime indirect

[fossil temple]

Yea

[lunar narwhal]

anything in this dropdown for baked lightmaps?

https://nyanpa.su/i/SrgN1iRY.png

[fossil temple]

Hold up it's in the middle of a bake lmao

[lunar narwhal]

oh right you're using shadowmask

[fossil temple]

I tried alot of diffrent ones

It's actually set to baked indirect rn

it baked realtime and baked

[lunar narwhal]

I feel like that doesn't look quite right lol

tbh the only thing I can think of is try doing a bake in a separate scene with a much smaller test terrain to see if that works

[fossil temple]

worked normally

[lunar narwhal]

this is a test scene with smaller terrain?

[fossil temple]

yes

[lunar narwhal]

wonder if its just the size of the terrain then?

do you need your entire terrain to be traversal or just a small section with the rest as backdrop?

[fossil temple]

ill try another one with the same size

still works

[lunar narwhal]

try raising lightmap scale to 1 and see what happens

your bake might take a much longer time

my current guess is that the size of the lightmap for the terrain is too small to portray the light sources you have and it ends up smoothed out as black

if not then i'm out of ideas heh

[fossil temple]

nop

do you wanna look over all my settings one more time?

[lunar narwhal]

sure

[lunar narwhal]

disable realtime global illumination

you dont need it if you're not using any realtime lights/emissives

[fossil temple]

i am though

[lunar narwhal]

oh?

[fossil temple]

its just mostly baked though

like i have a few flashlights and camp fires

[lunar narwhal]

wait, when i said try to increase lightmap resolution

i was refering to the settings in your lightmapper itself

not the texture resolution on the terrain

or did you already try that

[fossil temple]

i already did that

idk if thats the issue tho

[lunar narwhal]

well, i'm afraid i'm out of ideas then

[fossil temple]

it was odd

[lunar narwhal]

I suspect thats the issue since its working on your test on smaller terrains

[fossil temple]

maybe

[lunar narwhal]

i assume settings for the test are otherwise identical

[fossil temple]

it worked just fine on the same size

i did two tests so

imma try pogressive cpu

but it dies when i use it

tends to stop on job 7/11

[lunar narwhal]

cpu will be substantially slower

[fossil temple]

yea

but im trying to reset everything

this is weird

im hiding a bunch of things rn

seeing if that will help

[lunar narwhal]

well i just tried to bake a 1km square terrain with 512 resolution and it works so idk

are you using standard on terrain or some other shader?

[fossil temple]

yea

gaspe

idk what i did but it finally baked omg

i just started pressing random things

[lunar narwhal]

hope it stays that way lol

[fossil temple]

thank you for your help btw

same thing to ruu

[potent hound]

Anyone ever run into this problem with bakery?

(Using the render button to rerender the scene did not help, obviously)

[sonic star]

Unity is crashing on me when baking lights, using CPU Progressive the map is on SDK3. the error that comes up on the crash log is "ntdll.dll caused an Access Violation (0xc0000005)". any help would be appreciated

[wraith mantle]

Ok so today in vrchat I noticed shadows in worlds with real-time lighting have been flickering. Like disappearing and reappearing. Its happening in a world I made too, that I have not updated recently, so it's gotta be vrchat. What's going on? Why are shadows flickering? Friend says it's just started happening to him too

[dapper hatch]

okay so for some reason, in Unity, when I hit bake on a reflection probe, it only returns my skybox. Why is this happening? If i put it in realtime, it returns the right cubemap.

[modest vapor]

Are your objects static ?

[modest vapor]

How many realtime lights ?

[dapper hatch]

yes my objects are static, and i dont have any realtime lights or anything

[modest vapor]

Does your reflection probe have custom layers culled ?

[dapper hatch]

uh i dont have any custom layers but this is my reflection probe settings

[modest vapor]

You tried creating a new one ?

[dapper hatch]

yeah i have, a couple times

[modest vapor]

Anything in the console when you bake it ?

[dapper hatch]

nope, nothing

[lilac hornet]

Hi

[dapper hatch]

uh hi

okay so one error is being thrown, and that's when i bake all lighting

but i dont think these are relating issues

[modest vapor]

Yeah, those would just create baked shadows artifact on your meshes

Have you tried box projection ?

[dapper hatch]

yeah

it doesnt work either

it just still returns the skybox

i've looked at the cubemap generated by the bake function and it's just the skybox

[modest vapor]

Did you change your project's quality settings by any chance ?

There's a check to enable realtime reflection in there

[dapper hatch]

uhh

where would that be

i most likely didnt change it

but i did download a package from the unity assets store that might have

[modest vapor]

Edit > Project Settings

[dapper hatch]

realtime reflection is enabled

[modest vapor]

I'm kinda out of guesses, did you try in a new scene/new project ?

Changing material on your objects

I've never heard of that issue before

[dapper hatch]

it could very well be a material problem actually

i found a pretty strange shader, ill see what replacing that does

removing the shader didnt fix anything

[wraith mantle]

2 but vrchat just started doing this

If I remember correctly it might even be 2 lights with only 1 casting shadows. But the shadows take like a second to appear for when I move In their view like vrchat is trying to play catch-up on rendering or something. Like they don't render in fast enough and sometimes flicker in and out of existence when I move. I don't think it's specific to my world. It just started happening and it's happening in other worlds too

[modest vapor]

What's your world ?

[wraith mantle]

It's a private world

[modest vapor]

Are any of the world it's happening in public ?

[wraith mantle]

Yeah but I'd have to go track them down. I'll get back to you on that later

[rustic cypress]

so I have a campfire in my hangout world, and I have a script that changes the intensity of the light and whatnot to give it a realistic fire glow effect.
However when I upload it to VRChat the flickering light doesn't work, its just one solid intensity

https://i.imgur.com/fFAGGfc.gif

[frozen hornet]

You cannot use scripts in VRChat worlds, if you really want to you can use UDONSharp:
https://github.com/MerlinVR/UdonSharp
But apart from that you cannot use actual C# scripts in worlds
You can also just make an animation that adjusts those values i believe.

[rustic cypress]

oh boi

sounds like I'm gonna have to get down and dirty haha

thanks!

[wraith moss]

IMO this is stupid, I know how to code in C# and understand it well. Bit of a bummer.

[pure moss]

why happen!!?

What causes this weird seaming effect with the baked lighting?

[wraith mantle]

Unity being poop

Idk check your bake map settings or whatever it's called

[sleek spoke]

If you have generated lightmaps for your mesh and stitch seams enabled then you might have an inverted normal? (just guessing)

[amber notch]

Mesh clipping

Might there be two faces overlapping ?

[pure moss]

It doesnt look like it

The mesh is comprised of cubes, so maybe overlapping lines cause an issue? but I dont want to make a mess of NGons

as in

IS this the proper way to do walls?

Cause last time I wasnt extruding like a mad man and eventually the mesh was just a hellish nightmare and it made unity cry when it tried to light it

[modest vapor]

You have to merge those pieces, and their vertices

[pure moss]

Wouldnt that create N-Gons? im new to this sorry :<

[modest vapor]

Well, not if you remove unnecessary edges

also ngons for flat surfaces wouldn't matter anyway

[pure moss]

So would rebuilding the mesh like this be good, and then merge vertices

Cause right now the corners are very wonky

I cant just transfer a vertex to another line can I?

[pure moss]

Is this better?

Also just disolved those faces for the floor

Ok just undisolved them because it wouldnt work on the underside

[modest vapor]

A bit yeah

[long glade]

Hey ruuubick, do you have any clue on why the lightmapper might do this?

[modest vapor]

Unity or bakery ?

[long glade]

Bakery

Was working flawlessly then i baked it again and now every time i bake, it looks like that and I haven't figured out why

[modest vapor]

Any console warning ?

And got the fix bright edges checked ?

[modest vapor]

Might wanna clear you GI cache, clear baked data, restart unity and try again

incorrect UVs could create those artifacts

[long glade]

Those shouldn't be creating lightmaps as i don't have them static nor generating lightmaps either

im gonna try uninstalling bakery

and reinstalling it along with the other things you recommended

[long glade]

I some how fixed it but honestly, I couldn't tell you how i fixed it

unity 101

[royal swift]

Blender always hangs generating a lightmap uv for this chandelier... I have 3 of them in this world
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/699292505518374932/828817937108041748/unknown.png

Should I try another uv unwrap method for the lightmap, or is that not advised?

[modest vapor]

Are you using Lightmap pack ?

[royal swift]

yes

i could try lower quality

i've been doing max

[modest vapor]

Does this need to be lightmapped though ?

Feels like it could just use a light probe and reflection probe

[royal swift]

yeah i guess so

[celest hornet]

Hi hi. I'm trying to bake lights while having a large model have animations and actually move around. The issue is however when I bake the lights is, whenever she's enabled during light baking, she steals all the lighting and inevitably, the world bakes in dark colors. How would I work around this exactly? I've done some research to remedy the issue but no luck so far.

https://i.imgur.com/JNg8i6K.png

EDIT: Nevermind, I'm an idiot. I just needed to make the intensity of the light stronger.

[rough grotto]

Hi. Never done baked lighting before. Setting up an interior environment, still in the Blender phase of things.
Place has a lot of lights with lamp shades and such. Is there anything I should be doing to prepare the shades baking the lighting?

I just had this thought that they might create odd shadows unless I separate them or do some other step.

[modest vapor]

You won't know until you redo it in Unity

[twilit lily]

@true herald the general chat is no place to discuss lighting in worlds, thats the better place

[rough grotto]

I was thinking that perhaps I'm supposed to separate the lamp shades and set them to not cast shadows. Or else I assume any point light placed inside simply won't reach the outside properly?

And yeah, I meant in preparation for Unity.

In Blender I notice I can set a light source radius, which makes it expand outside the shade. But I don't recall a similar option in Unity.

[modest vapor]

I mean, if you want realistic lighting you probably wouldn't want to do that

But it's vrchat so you can afford to cheat that way

Might want to look into IES for your lights

[rough grotto]

Well normally lamp shades aren't designed to block light. Just soften and disperse it. '-'

[modest vapor]

With GI bounce they should have the same effect

But yeah, there's no "go through this 50%" kind of option

[rough grotto]

Hmm. Well I guess I'll experiment. Will probably need to come back to blender for something else anyway.

[modest vapor]

You could also make a duplicate of that lamp shade, and use that as an emissive mesh with lower intensity

[pine trench]

I hear often that you get one free dynamic light that doesn't really affect performance, but how well does that hold up on a large scale with a bunch of buildings that would be casting shadows? I mean like a map of this scale. Also at how many batches is it considered overboard?

[green vault]

umm lol. youre best bet if you really want shadows and cant bake that scene (which is fair). use hard shadows as they do the least amount of performance damage than soft shadows

[pine trench]

Gotcha, will do. Even worse yet, it has a day/night cycle lol

[green vault]

ah fun...

[pine trench]

The animation for the cycle is just sped up for demonstration. It's weird, in some areas I get a little over 90fps, but others I dropped as low as 13fps

[mossy haven]

After baking the lighting in my world, the mirrors have gone almost pitch black (only showing things that are emissive), how do i fix this?

[languid tree]

Can I get some help with world lighting? Keep having this flickering issue with having a point light in my world as the main light:

These are my settings for the lighting render:

Pretty much every mesh is marked as static, as well.

[vague falcon]

is there any major difference between lightmappers?

[versed herald]

what are the differences between the light choices?

[pine trench]

Directional is like the sun, point is like a lamp, I don't think Area lights work, and spot is like a flashlight.

I could be wrong about the area lights though

[quasi hedge]

Area lights work, but have to be baked.

[shy root]

Hey guys! I was wondering if anybody knew what is possibly going on with my lights. I baked all the lights, generated UVs, etc.., watched like 3 videos plus the one pinned here. After it’s done baking, in unity it displays how the lights should look, and then when I launch in build & test, it’s like completely dark. With only the floors showing some light being bounced.. any ideas?

[mossy vale]

What is the cost of baked reflection probes?

[modest vapor]

What kind of cost ?

[mossy vale]

I suppose optimization would be a better place to ask, as it's cost relative to that. I assume very little as it's a baked light.

[modest vapor]

It's baked reflection

It does have a cost, but it's minimal, having a lot of them is worse though

[mossy vale]

How many is a lot? 5, 50?

[modest vapor]

It really depends on the size of the world

But if you're going in the dozens then you might be overdoing it

[mossy vale]

Okay good to know, I only have one in at the moment, but I wanted to know for context! Thanks./

The world is only 5mb with all of the main meshes in anyway so it should be okay!

[exotic phoenix]

Friends, what can cause such artifacts from Emission? I've tried everything, but I don't know how to fix it.

P.S. The funny thing is that I didn't even add any lighting, It's right in the rendering.

[quasi hedge]

Another optimization consideration re: reflection probes is that static meshes split between different reflection probes won't batch together so having many reflection probes could cause a perf drop if it's breaking a lot of your static batching (but you can use anchor overrides to mitigate this)

[shy root]

Would anyone know the issue here? In my unity it shows that this entire space is lit up, but in build & test this is what it looks like

The walls should be textured as well

[mint cipher]

Does anyone know how to do bloom/glow objects? Any updated videos or advice for it?

[shy root]

You would have to get a post processing asset from the store ( I think there’s a couple free ones )

[modest vapor]

https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit/releases

This tool installs it in one click

[shy root]

Do you know how to fix my current issue above? I’m lost and there’s nothing I can find anywhere to solve it

[modest vapor]

How did you bake ?

[modest vapor]

Did you follow a tutorial for that ?

[shy root]

several yes

ive tried so many different things, but most have just came close to the prior one i tried

[modest vapor]

You're using standard shader ?

[shy root]

omg no, could that really be the problem... after so many tries i was beginning to think it was a shader issue...

[modest vapor]

just need to make sure the shader on your materials supports lightmapping

[shy root]

i would assume not... because my floor lighting was showing, but all my walls were black (floor shading is standard)

[bold wadi]

Why is this happening when I bake lights?

[versed herald]

Im trying to get a better Day or Night lighting set up. Can someone help?

[royal swift]

oh wrong question

[bold wadi]

so wait

boost the lightmap size?

[royal swift]

but to answer that, I think there's a bug in unity when you change the lightmap resolution, it also screwes up the UV configuration

[bold wadi]

i think the lightmap size might be the issue

actually maybe not

[royal swift]

Here's the difference of a .1 value increase in the resolution, and it throws off the UV maps
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782417374367186995/829669472150487080/unknown.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782417374367186995/829669528194777088/unknown.png

so resolutions work, some dont

if you haven't changed it at all, then idk what's up

[bold wadi]

so how do i know what resolution it should be at?

[versed herald]

Ping me or Dm me if someone can help me work on a decent day or night lighting setup

[bold wadi]

there's a prefab i can direct you towards

do you want that?

[royal swift]

just try tweaking this until it works. Did you auto-generate the UVs?

[bold wadi]

higher you think?

i have it at 40

[modest vapor]

You need to generate lightmap UVs

[royal swift]

for my particular world, 39.8 is the highest before it bugs out.

[bold wadi]

i already have the generate uvs checked

[royal swift]

yeah, i learned quick Unity is ass at generating UVs

i've been working about 10 hours a day the past few days manually adjusting the UVs

[bold wadi]

oh no

i've spent too much time already😫

can they break on baked meshes?

[royal swift]

yeah. learned a hard lesson. You want to build up your UVs from the VERY BEGINNING of a project, not when you already have lots of complex geometry.

it's almost like having to build everything all over again

[bold wadi]

oh geez

idk what i'm doing honestly

[modest vapor]

Did you enable mesh compression ?

[royal swift]

i'm still learning lol

what does mesh compression do

[bold wadi]

mesh compression?

[royal swift]

also should I "keep quads"?

[modest vapor]

If you haven't done it don't mind it

Also check your console after you bake

[bold wadi]

it says i don't have uvs create some for gi?

[royal swift]

if auto generate doesn't yield any usable results, your only option is to generate them in your 3d modeling program like bender

[bold wadi]

it worked fine when i had realtime lights but it made everything laggy

[royal swift]

Unity even screws with imported UVs. None of this should actually overlap

[bold wadi]

so what can i even do? i'm new to unity and all i wanted was baked lights

Can I fix it here?

[royal swift]

Unfortunately, it's just not a simple thing. The only thing that makes it easy is a lot of experience building UVs.
There may be plugins that can help, but idk.

[bold wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/dio-crying-sad-jojo-wry-gif-4865563

why does unity have to be so hard

[royal swift]

You can do it!

[bold wadi]

i wish i could

[royal swift]

Some quirks, you just gotta deal with. Like idk why Unity adds random edges on flat surfaces?

[bold wadi]

yeah that's what's happening to my project

[royal swift]

and this is without auto-generating. Nothing exported from blender should create that

[bold wadi]

yeah i am just so tired of having to fix stuff at this point in my project

[royal swift]

the reality is, this is stuff that usually take a team of developers.

Determination is a hell of a drug though.
My head hurts, I'm aggravated as hell, my left eye is bloodshot, I barely know what I'm doing, yet I still want to keep going and learning...

[bold wadi]

can someone who knows code can fix them easily

??

[royal swift]

I have a whole 'nother world sitting in blender that i set aside while i'm still learning UVs.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782417374367186995/811174536061911120/untitled32.png

[bold wadi]

damn

that looks good

[royal swift]

Thanks! that only took a couple months to put together, but it's going to probably take just as long to build all the UVs for a working lightmap.

I'm going for realism

[bold wadi]

yeah that's what i wanted too but i don't want to do all the uvs for this model it's to damn big

well it's about the same size as that room

[bold wadi]

@royal swift https://lesterbanks.com/2019/01/automatic-lightmap-friendly-uvs-maya/

[royal swift]

hmm

Never used Maya

[bold wadi]

this seems so easy to do

[royal swift]

oh fuc that's twice as expensive as my annual all-apps adobe sub

[bold wadi]

but i haven't used maya ether

yeah

[royal swift]

Has anyone tried this out?
https://github.com/Naxela/The_Lightmapper

The addon automates everything you need to bake, ranging from scaling, material setup, uv-layering, uv-unwrapping and more:

[bold wadi]

would it be able to be used for a fbx from unity if i take the model from my assets?

[royal swift]

yeah, it's just a plugin for blender

[bold wadi]

damn but i don't know how to use blender that well

[cosmic torrent]

Can anyone give me any pointers as to what might be causing this jagged shading on the mesh here? Lighting's baked, Light Probe Groups and all that jazz.

And the lighting settings.

[royal swift]

well i just lost 6 hours of work

autosave got corrupt during a power outage

[versed herald]

Can someone help me get proper day or night lighting? ping or dm me

[versed herald]

also can someone explain how the Area Lights work? and maybe some lighting information.

[sterile flint]

Hello, im making a world and im having some issues with the lighting, i have gradient as my environment lighting that is pretty bright aswell tho i want it to have a moody kind of lighting since it is a hangout place for friends and such

[modest vapor]

What shader are you using for your environment

[sterile flint]

Standard that im aware of

the neon is a standard shader with emission

[modest vapor]

Is the ground static ?

There's a tutorial pinned in this channel, might be worth watching it to make sure you didn't miss a simple step

[sterile flint]

yea everything that should be static is static

im wondering if it might be that the amount of lights that i have, it overlapping my scene with light bounces and such

[modest vapor]

Well if they're baked it doesn't matter

[sterile flint]

yes they are baked as well, but alright

any info i could give you more so you would get a better understanding of the world lighting?

[modest vapor]

"There's a tutorial pinned in this channel, might be worth watching it to make sure you didn't miss a simple step"

[sterile flint]

if you mean akalink's video then i have looked on it and followed it but i get the same issue