3d-modeling

[still wadi]

hahahah

[rain fjord]

@spiral sigil still happening

[spiral sigil]

I would personally refrain from going sculpting right now, learning basic polygonal modeling workflow will do you better in the long run! Get the shape right with low poly count, then subdive using modifiers and sharp edges! Just keep at it once again and watch how pros do it on youtube! be proud, you actually made something

[spiral sigil]

welp my guess would be to reset the default of blender, and if still doesn't work, reinstall it

[rain fjord]

reset the default?

[spiral sigil]

if creating a new cylinder and setting it to smooth doesn't work it's fooked

yeah defaults

setting

it is

[craggy lintel]

If your're resetting just move to latest version of blender

throw that 2.8 or 2.9 out

[rain fjord]

@spiral sigil can i still save my objects as 3d objects?

[still wadi]

but wouldn't you want to use lts version since it's more likely it will have less bugs and it's won't interfere with your workflow

[subtle scroll]

Thank you 🙏🏻 I appreciate this

[cinder cradle]

also try working on transition between purple and black part

it doesn't look smooth

[craggy lintel]

it is low poly so you would be all over that

[cinder cradle]

yeah but even in low poly work it can look smoother

the hights are too agressive

[subtle scroll]

Understood, thank you whiren

That I see now that you mention it

[craggy lintel]

well yea I’m just saying

[atomic hamlet]

Ah yes, the best part of of avatar creation, screwing with the rig after you are done.

[night trout]

i mean, im not done yet
still gotta do the phenome shapekeys
but honestly fucking around with the rig is always great

[cinder cradle]

you probably need to connect few bones

bcs if they are connected this wouldn't happen

but oh well

[night trout]

i mean ive heard to keep the hip bone and spine bone seperate

[rain fjord]

how do i fix this?

[devout scroll]

bad geometry causing shading issues

is the middle face a big ngon

[valid terrace]

You can try to Remove all faces and reconstruct the faces manually

[sweet cobalt]

anyone willing to create an asset for my vrchat world?

[night trout]

man
I am unsure what other shapekeys i should make outside of expressions and what not

[sweet cobalt]

mmm ultrawide?

[cinder cradle]

you could always add some later if you want

[night trout]

i guess so

[rain fjord]

yes

[night trout]

god though i wish there was a explicit way to show how far off you are from ranking up in vrchat

[devout scroll]

try insetting it

[rain fjord]

didn't work

[night trout]

got the model into unity so that way i can upload it the nanosecond i get new user rank

[wispy valley]

So I have a model from VRoid I'm altering, and I'm trying to add a certain style to fox paws to the hands. I'm having trouble with the center part, and was wondering if anyone had an idea of paw pad assets available somewhere. I can't seem to navigate the sites I know of well enough to search for what I want.

[chrome oak]

im not gonna make this into an avatar i just wanted to share it lol 🔥

[wide anchor]

how do you use blender in unity

[quaint jasper]

You don't.

[subtle scroll]

You can only upload things from blender into unity when they’re completed. Unity is a separate software from blender

[thorny ivy]

@azure rain hey there how do you setup your topo to flow around where the legs connect to hips when you need it to have full motion range for fbt?

[spice pewter]

https://i.gyazo.com/11ca865ed49767e3e037ed30da542422.mp4

[karmic cosmos]

is it possible to export characters from VRC to unity, so you can edit them and republish?
or just get the 3d model in general from VRC characters?

[wide anchor]

ok thank you

[wide anchor]

you would have to rip them and then prob get banned so i would not suggest it

[karmic cosmos]

so you are saying its possible

[subtle scroll]

Lmao. It is…illegally @karmic cosmos

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-comedy-jim-carrey-excited-happy-gif-15860180

[night trout]

made some shapekeys for both eyes to be closed individually

[craggy lintel]

make em

[uneven thicket]

nvermind

[odd gyro]

Does anyone know z brush well enough to help me export a sculpt I paid for so I can rig it into a vrchat model?

Please dm me if you can help me

[languid fog]

https://youtu.be/2-pFspCbykk

https://youtu.be/jNqGS5ujuLE

[odd gyro]

Im gonna watch those vids and try, could I come to you if I am still having trouble?

[languid fog]

Yeah sure

[odd gyro]

tysm

[night trout]

subdivved the model (taking out the horns, claws and teeth of course)
and ngl it looks nicer
not too sure about the tris tho

but honestly i might use this subdivved version for 3d art

[golden thunder]

Hello I have a problem with animation. When an object is under rigid body modifier, it should automatically move after i press the play button. However, that is not the case with my work.

*Cube doesnt fall down even when not parented
*Animate and dynamic on
*Animation works (i tested it with other objects)

I dont know what to do pls help me

[devout scroll]

try resetting settings

and check that you have gravity

[golden thunder]

i did what you said

???

[devout scroll]

o actually i was thinking of soft body not rigid body

but it looks like armature modifier might be keeping them together so i dunno

look for a blender tutorial on how to make ragdolls

[golden thunder]

i did and i was also asking the same question in the video

[devout scroll]

Not sure then. Maybe someone else knows

[night trout]

:)

[craggy lintel]

What the fuck is Easypose and why does it exist LOL

[craggy lintel]

Okay so

I have been modeling from scratch items like hair, tails, bodies, etc for years and I just found out about vroid

is vroid good for making stuff? Or should I just stick to blender

[quaint jasper]

vroid is just a base, but they have very nice individual pieces

[craggy lintel]

ohhhh so you can’t make stuff yourself?

I love keeping my work organic to my own creation

[quaint jasper]

You can at least create haircuts afaik

[craggy lintel]

Hmmm interesting

[night trout]

the frown

[spiral sigil]

tried to make my own jeff the killer

[potent glade]

At the risk of causing a debate or entire shitstorm

What's the recommended modeling method you would suggest to beginners to start off with?

[spiral sigil]

sculpting

[potent glade]

Sculpting from spheres?

[spiral sigil]

just launch blender. click sculpting. and just make somethin

thats what i do. so ig i recommend that

[devout scroll]

depends what you want to achieve

sculpting spheres like that won't really get you any usable models

if you want to model you almost always just box model

lookup some tutorials on game assets

[calm goblet]

stick to blender, vroid is like makehuman but anime

most you can do is retexture the things they already have

[tight quartz]

Hi! I am looking for help with lightning. I wanna try to make this kind of lightning
(Flashing lights warning)
https://youtu.be/pY_uCf3DkXo?t=22

[spice pewter]

https://i.gyazo.com/83af5a5e26f9d3c3c9d07e7a064034c8.mp4

[craggy lintel]

I just realized I don’t have a mentor for things

but I’m really good at things

so I need a reaaallly good mentor omo

[calm goblet]

if you're good without a mentor why do you need a mentor?

[craggy lintel]

Anyone can improve

here’s the thing with these help chats

usually character creation has various branches to get best result

teams

Most ppl here are trying to do all @ once, and avatars take tech knowledge, art knowledge. So most of us are weaker at some things. Meaning some may know everything about blender but their art skills lack, or vice versa

[calm goblet]

in a game/vfx studio yes, for us freelancers no

and really a character artist should at least know the basics of the animations and rigging sides so they understand what they're doing in retopo

[craggy lintel]

yea but it will never be as good as a team working it

[calm goblet]

that's true, but luckily vrchat plain doesn't allow for any of the really fancy stuff

[craggy lintel]

Team work is usually high budget. Serious machinery. Pixar is the king of this

[craggy lintel]

Ikr

[calm goblet]

vrc is actually the perfect place for a character artist

[craggy lintel]

Yes it is, as I am one

[calm goblet]

the limitations on rigging are massive

[craggy lintel]

I spend more time in blender and substance than anything else

[calm goblet]

so our lack of fancy rigging skills isn't as m,uch of a drag factor

[craggy lintel]

I study rigs a ton, been studying and playing with same rig for a year now

[calm goblet]

we can just sculpt and paint the best thing we can, then give it a basic control rig to do some simple animations, and fuck it off to unity

if you wanna try something for rigging and animation that's a big improvement on blender though, take a look at akeytsu

it's reasonably priced for what you get

[craggy lintel]

Already have face rig n stuff

Oh

Yea I may look at that

Looks pretty cool

[thorny ivy]

You can heh

attempt to learn Houdini

[calm goblet]

houdini isn't that hard to learn

at least on the basic end of things

[night trout]

eye shapekeys go brrrrrrr

[atomic hamlet]

Smugness intensifies

[night trout]

smug dragon hours

honestly the only shapekeys im kinda dreading making are my phenomes

[night trout]

ANGY

[spiral sigil]

working on a snotty boy remake

[quiet hollow]

Any tips on 3d modelling and sculpting? Because rn all I can make is a weird looking banana

[azure rain]

having reference material helps

[quiet hollow]

Since I really wanna make a secret history tails avatar with all the voice lines and animations but idk how to model or animate them

[calm goblet]

you're gonna have to learn a lot then, buckle up for some frustration and fun

grant abbitt has some great sculpting and charactgfer tutorials for beginners though, and flipped normals have some blender vids as well

[azure rain]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFUrFoqvqlN8seaAeEwjlw

[calm goblet]

oh another trhing that'll help you a shitload more than you think, learn the basics of realistic anatomy first

that way when you go to design stylized characters you'll be able to bend the rules in more effective ways, cause you actually know the rules in the first place

[visual vigil]

https://twitter.com/HexeArtz/status/1491265167442980868

Junos 🔞 (@HexeArtz)

Which image would you say is a Monster Boy (Human + features)

Which image would you say is a Furry (Features + Human)

Both? Either?

Lots of people say both are furry

Twitter · Feb 9, 2022, 4:18 AM

[visual vigil]

holy shit the legend

[barren sleet]

Is it normal for a model to turn white or gray when you bake their textures?

I'm trying to bake a model's materials as there are 31 of them in total and I am unsure if this is what it's supposed to do or not.

[quaint jasper]

31

Make sure you're in rendered mode in blender after the bake ?

[barren sleet]

Alright, how do I go to rendered mode?

Okay, I'm in it, what do I do now?

[barren sleet]

?

[spiral sigil]

Are you going to finish that Cwoissant

[river saddle]

Hey guys, for some reason I can't log into VRChat SDK in Unity, whenever I type in my credentials it just takes me back to the signup-box. What do?

[cinder cradle]

do you use right unity?

[cinder cradle]

if you also newest sdk than try reimporting it

[river saddle]

I'll give it a shot

[muted raven]

For my 3d Modeling Friends, what's your most efficient method on creating visemes? For my base meshes I usually spend hours moving the face vertices around manually using proportional editing. Im wondering if there is a more efficient way to do this rather than dealing with tons of vertices. Like using almost somewhat of a lattice to move a broad spectrum of the face without having to smooth everything out after Big changes?

Or do you guys also go through my hell lol

[river saddle]

oh it worked now

thank you @cinder cradle

[cinder cradle]

rig the face

i do that

[muted raven]

Like with bones?

[cinder cradle]

yes

[muted raven]

Thats not a bad idea, for the visemes you just create shape keys moving the bones on the rig itself?

[cinder cradle]

yes

with bones you have big freedom what is rigged or not

you can make it complex or simple

[muted raven]

How does that all link up in unity? Can you still use shape keys for your visemes even if they aren't directly on the base mesh?

[cinder cradle]

you make shape keys with bones, not moving vertices

but well that is not for someone who hates rigging

[muted raven]

Please forgive me as i havent done that before, so i would just directly make the shapekeys on the armature and move the face bones in edit mode right?

as per usual

[cinder cradle]

i cant show you example bcs im not on pc but try experimenting with it

[muted raven]

Ok

Thanks for the general direction though! im excited to make Visemes a hell of a lot faster

[untold schooner]

on the armature modifier you can just apply as shape key

[spiral sigil]

gettin there

[calm goblet]

i use the move brush in sculpting

not tried the rigging thing but personally i think it'll be faster for me to just use brushes to pull things in place and have that control rather than fuck around with blender's rigging tools

[night trout]

^

plus weightpainting sucks ass

[calm goblet]

does in blender that's for sure

much less painful in akeytsu

but you gotta pay for akeytsu

[quaint jasper]

What kind of models are you working on that takes hours to make shapekeys ?

[night trout]

honestly the only issue i have with the brush method in regards to my model is making the phenomes lmao
but eh just having the jaw movement is fine enough

[calm goblet]

make more than 2 shape keys and make them detailed, you're gonna spend hours 😛

[fallow osprey]

I'm making a tonk

[night trout]

Nice Tonka

[fallow osprey]

Thx ^_^

I'm using it to learn blender. Hope to make characters at some point

[calm goblet]

if you wanna learn character art start with character art

[fallow osprey]

Nah, I like tanks. I'll do characters later

[calm goblet]

lol fair enough

characters are a whole huge skillset on their own though

[quaint jasper]

I think y'all are just obsessing over useless details more likely lol

[fallow osprey]

Understandable. Tbh I find it easier to manually fine tune vertices on smth organic than what I'm working on rn

[calm goblet]

depends what you'd consider a useless detail, i like my facial expressions to look human, not like a ventriloquist's dummy

[night trout]

who needs details when you can have such simple shapekeys like mine

[quaint jasper]

I'm arguing the fact that if it takes you hours then you might be trying a bit too hard, to each their own though

[calm goblet]

not exactly a complex model, but on a human face you want the nasolabial fold to react properly, bunch up and stretch as needed, some furrowing in the brow for some expressions, bit of creasing in the nose, stuff like that adds time onto each expression you make

[cinder cradle]

tbh spending hours on shape keys isnt something bad

[night trout]

yeah, lets you have fun with the shapekeys too

[quaint jasper]

Depends on much time you have to make that model

[calm goblet]

and yeah i don't think you can say someone's trying too hard when they're just spending the time they need to make something as best they can

[calm goblet]

unless i'm being paid i have all the time i need, and if i'm being paid then the client gets the quality they pay for lol

[quaint jasper]

"need" is purely subjective, I know way too many people obsessing over the tiniest detail that will never be noticed by anyone but themselves, and it's easy to get stuck in that mindset

[calm goblet]

that mindset does push you to improve

[quaint jasper]

Depends on your goal

[calm goblet]

gotta keep a handle on it though or you'll literally be moving 1 pore around all day

[quaint jasper]

Yeah, that's how a lot of people burnout

[calm goblet]

you should always be looking to improve 😛

[quaint jasper]

Not at the cost of never finishing anything imo

[devout scroll]

I feel attacked

[calm goblet]

depends if it's a personal project or not

portfolio pieces obviously gotta be finished and slapped on artstation at some point, client work needs to be handed over by the deadline, but personal work you never have to finish unless your goal was to run it through the full pipeline

[calm goblet]

we've all been there at some point or another, spending far too long on things that don't matter and not spending enough time on the things that do lol

[devout scroll]

Been getting better at not obsessing over random things recently tho

[night trout]

also
the "oh shit" eyes

dunno if i should have the fake eye "shine" move with the eyes but ehh

gave it a try
and it kinda does work

[devout scroll]

you should really subdivide those eyes

[night trout]

yknow i should
but then i would have to subdivide most of the head

[devout scroll]

Just select the eyes and subdivide

you don't have to

[flint hill]

guys i need some help to find some free sculpting furry models, does someone have any i could use? or maybe some parts? like arms, torso or legs? anything works, please let me know <3

[night trout]

i mean this is how it looks subdivved @devout scroll

[calm goblet]

why do you need parts? why not just sculpt it yourself?

[flint hill]

because i cant sculpt yet

[calm goblet]

sounds like the perfect time to learn

[flint hill]

yes indeed i am

i am rn watching some tutorials haha

just i need a complete model soon

[night trout]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwUlYr477Wo
I personally learned my sculpting skills from just
watching this timelaspe lmao

[calm goblet]

gonna give you some advice you're not gonna like, but you should follow cause it'll help you long-term:

learn basic realistic human anatomy and sculpting before you get into stylized and furry, accept that for a while everything you make will be shit, the only way to get good at something is to start out shit and get better

[flint hill]

woah thank you

[calm goblet]

i say start out with realistic humans cause stylization is just bending the rules of realism, and furry is mostly based on a human skeleton and anatomy anyway

[flint hill]

ofc ofc i am aware, music production is like that as well, and p much game development too, skill developes with practice always, so dont worry i get you completely

[flint hill]

amazing ill do

[calm goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJuzn-NkI0o this is a good blockout method to work with, zbrush vid but you can do it in blender just as easy

i use the same method in blender, zbrush, 3d coat, whatever

[flint hill]

oooohhh

epic epic

perfect ill check out all of this today and tonight

thank you two a lot

[night trout]

No problem!

[calm goblet]

oh and always use fucking references!!!!!

can't stress that one enough

[flint hill]

yeah i always do haha

[night trout]

also yeah
idk if the subdivved eye looks better or not 😔

[devout scroll]

well the pupils look better but the eyes themselves not so much

so your topology might be weird

show wireframe

[flint hill]

oof

i said

bro this is gold

[night trout]

with the mouth open as well

[flint hill]

lmfao

[night trout]

thanks!

[flint hill]

the tutorial you sent me dude

i literally had no idea

and maybe this seems stupid but i seriously sucked so much

and now

i made a full torso

this is amazing

ofc i need to smooth it but ill do later as low poly helps me referencing the volume and density of the shape

[night trout]

yee!

[flint hill]

now looks amazing

also your model is amazing!

keep up 💖

[night trout]

thanks!! And I hope your model turns out as equally amazing!

[flint hill]

thank you so much

any tips on how to make this symmetrical??

have been trying to do it manually but i think im not doing it the right way and im sure theres an easier way

[night trout]

usually i turn on X symmetry up in the top right

[flint hill]

somewhere here?

[fallow osprey]

Try deleting half ur model and applying a mirror modifier

[flint hill]

ooooo smart

how do i do that i may ask

[fallow osprey]

Xray and orthographic view help with selecting vertices fast

[flint hill]

is it inside blender?

like a built in tool?

[fallow osprey]

Ye

Gimme a sec

[flint hill]

alrighty thank you!

[fallow osprey]

Okidoke, so what u wanna do is go up to xray toggle at the top

[night trout]

forgot to @ you lol

[fallow osprey]

Then press 1, 3 or 7 on ur keypad depending on the axes u wanna delete, and just select all those vertices

Then mirror modifier will be in the "spanner" icon on the right hand menu

@flint hill

[flint hill]

oh thanks !

[fallow osprey]

👌

[flint hill]

epic epic

ill try now

just a thing

how do i activate that xray thing you say?

oh wait its like

the rendering options?

[fallow osprey]

It's a button at the top, next to the viewport modes

[flint hill]

where i can see al the vertex and stuff?

[fallow osprey]

Next to that, on the left :^)

[cinder cradle]

or hold z and wireframe

[fallow osprey]

Nah, he needs to see the vertices behind the model too

[flint hill]

yeeee thank you thank you

[flint hill]

oh true

wait i saw it

[fallow osprey]

Yiss

[flint hill]

on or off?

[fallow osprey]

On

[flint hill]

epico

[fallow osprey]

Then go into ur edit mode to see the vertices

orthographic view and select :^)

[flint hill]

yesyes

i did

that was nuts

thank you <3

[fallow osprey]

Np, have fun

[devout scroll]

well, you might want to get the eyes to be more round by adding more verticies to the.. circular eye thing

but you don't have to subdiv the whole head for that, you can just manually do it

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b5DtW9OZyYc/U-O2bNiwjoI/AAAAAAAAAio/WbAKhNnjLE0/s1600/9c359aa1b9b8565b4ac60793139283cb.jpg

for reference you can go from lower to higher number of verts while still keeping it quad topology

[night trout]

ah ok

[night trout]

just gotta figure out how to connect it all up i guess

then again that fucks up my edge loops

[night trout]

now this
is epic

[flint hill]

well

that went amazingly much better than i expected

maybe it looks bad but it will have a void shader in vr

(basically there wont be any type of density or volume as the whole model is gonna be straight black void with a rainbow shader lmao)

fixed legs

[wind ore]

hey does anybody know a good blender tutorial? I just can't find one that is up to date.

[flint hill]

aaa man @night trout i seriously owe you my life on this one, i made a whole torso + legs + head shape thing just with 5 seconds of a tutorial omg

[flint hill]

bro check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwUlYr477Wo

it fixed my life in 2 minutes

[wind ore]

ok

[flint hill]

no shit

[wind ore]

thanks

[flint hill]

i didnt know how to sculpt at all until i saw those first seconds of the video

[flint hill]

and this is my result after some hours

hope it helps

[night trout]

No problem!

Vineboom sfx

[unreal gyro]

does anyone have any resources on making lowpoly models? character/humanoid models ideally. PS1 level lowpoly, i wanna make something for the ongoing 256fes

[median pike]

This is what I would do

[devout scroll]

you could also collapse some of the verts in the pupils

keep the outline verts the same but join some of them inside since you're just wasting polygons if they's so many on a flat surface

might not even matter if you have triangles and ngons there

[spice pewter]

https://gyazo.com/06b5f2f2dd8defeb001bcead57388802

[cursive cipher]

nice

[thorn gale]

what are the uppermost resolution limits with respect to VRC avatars?

I know there's definitely compression when you upload, but what are they compressing it to?

basically, at what point does increased screen resolution stop mattering because the models/textures don't support the extra resolution----is what I'm driving at

[worthy rampart]

there is no simple answer, some avatars have a large surface area and need more resolution to keep a crisp look

[tight quartz]

looks dope af

[fallow osprey]

Thx! Still in the process of finalising the shapes, but it's coming together nicely. Plus I just realised without the ammunition and track models, it's only 46k tris lmao

[tight quartz]

Modelling tutorial PLEASE XD

[fallow osprey]

XD

Idk, this is my first actual model in blender lmao

[tight quartz]

Tf you mean first actual model? Bruh

[fallow osprey]

Ok so I made a hollow cartoony face a few years ago

And recently I got interested in blender again so I made a small grassy field

So this is my first actual model that I was really interested in doing :^)

[tight quartz]

So you wanna like... Become friends yes? XD

[fallow osprey]

Check out this channel if ur interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFcXKj1qhBc

XD lmao

Yeah sure

[tight quartz]

👀

[kindred plover]

FUGGGGING doughnut. Anyone available to show me what probably simple thing I've done wrong?

I got through most of it with ease, but when I go to sculpt it's like... Depressing it before it inflates it? Instead of a smooth bubble I get hard depressed edges. What am I doingwrong arrrggghhhh

Am I somehow sculpting the under part of the icing? Is it something to do with normals? Am I just a complete failure don't nothing with her life?

[spiral sigil]

obama.

Is the icing and the donut a separate mesh @kindred plover

[kindred plover]

Yesh

[spiral sigil]

what do you want to edit?

[kindred plover]

I'm following the silly doughnut tutorial on YouTube since I'm just a soft baby starting to learn blender. I'm at the part where we use sculpting/inflate to make the drippies look fatter.

I am definitely sculpting on the icing, not the doughnut.. But I've trouble shot with no luck on my own until I'm angry about it

[spiral sigil]

So. are you trying to sculpt the icing? or the donut?

i can possibly help

[kindred plover]

The icing

[spiral sigil]

how the vertices

show

[kindred plover]

You mean like dis or in a different mode?

[spiral sigil]

the verts look ok. uh try to use another tool and see what happebs

@kindred plover sculpt tool

[kindred plover]

Blob and draw appear to have left a dent

[spiral sigil]

are you holding ctrl down by any chance?

cause that inverts the tools

[kindred plover]

Lol no I'd feel so stupid if that were out though 😅

It*

There's a part of the tutorial where we applied solidify to the icing and changed the - 1 to a 1

So it would thicken out instead of in... Could that be it somehow?

[spiral sigil]

imo modifiers are a waste of time

never used them. prolly never will

[kindred plover]

Maybe I should try sculpting the doughnut instead of the icing to see if it does the thing

[spiral sigil]

try that

[kindred plover]

See if it's an icing problem. Also, that's good to know, because I didn't like them very much but I still wanted to "learn it"

Inflate is still definitely denting in. And when I hold control... It inflates. How did I reverse this?

[spiral sigil]

the fuck

[kindred plover]

It's set to inflate in the brush menu

[spiral sigil]

dunno what witch craft you did for that to happen but

just hold ctrl down

[kindred plover]

Lol here's my dent and bubble

[spiral sigil]

try changing the direction to deflate

[kindred plover]

Ooo good idea

Ffs that seems to work.

[spiral sigil]

fr

[kindred plover]

But I don't want this. Lol I might redo my doughnut. It's not like it took a long time. I think it had something to do with when we changed the thickness of the icing

[spiral sigil]

aight

[kindred plover]

Do you know anything about setting normals?

[spiral sigil]

nah

im not that smart

[kindred plover]

No worries thanks for your help anyway. I'm glad I'm not crazy

[spiral sigil]

aight GL

[kindred plover]

I had the normals flipped. I'm NOT GOING to smash my laptop I swear. So I had to select everything and go into edit mode, hit alt N and pick invert normals. I'm not sure when that happened or how I did it but it fixed the problem. 😑

[spiral sigil]

thats something i would do

[kindred plover]

Can inflate now 👍 thanks for coming along on my journey lol

[spiral sigil]

that was the most anticlimatic thing ever. but yw and good luck with your journey

[night trout]

man
idk how imma do the anger expression for the eyes without making it look odd when i use other eye shapekeys

and aghh
might just redo UVs but then i would have to redo the textures

[night trout]

basically i am super doubting myself rn

[flint hill]

someone has an idea of how to fix this?

i also would like to know how to optimize my character cuz 🥶

[dire bolt]

what software do you use to make 3d desings? blender?

[azure rain]

yeah pretty much everybody here uses blender because they don't have stupid amounts of money to buy Maya

[dire bolt]

XD

ok

[solar fossil]

smells like blender interface

[calm goblet]

don't forget zbrush, 3d coat, rizom, topogun, marmoset, substance, akeytsu, all the other 3d tools that're out there and come in handy when you're working on characters

actually, they're great for hard surface and environments as well as just characters

[azure rain]

yeah I was simplifying a little but you still need as a blender/Maya as a base with all of those

[calm goblet]

actually you don't

[azure rain]

do any of those handle character rigging?

[calm goblet]

topogun handles your low poly after making the high poly in coat/zbrush, rizom for UVs, marmoset to bake, coat/marmoset/substance to texture, akeytsu is an extremely good and easy to use rigging and animation program

and if you wanted to do a fancy render marmoset got you covered

[azure rain]

thanks for the more info as I was only familiar with half of them

[calm goblet]

personally i still use blender as an assembling program cause it's just easier to use than trying to handle every object in any of the other programs

but you technically don't need it for anything if you have at least 3d coat and akeytsu

cause coat can handle your high poly, your retopo, UVs ,baking and texturing well enough, akeytsu to rig and animate

[kindred plover]

I just need everyone to look at my doughnut. That is allll Thank you

[calm goblet]

do you feel like you could make something that isn't another donut after doing that tutorial?

or somrthing that isn't another icing and sprinkles covered baked thing lol

[kindred plover]

I could maaaake....anything glazed or bread like

😀

would you liiike....a cookie?

[calm goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98FkRIbihyQ&list=PLn3ukorJv4vvv3ZpWJYvV5Tmvo7ISO-NN try this playlist

teaches you the fundamentals of how to actually model shapes and how things work, takes you through the whole process and you should be able to figure out how to make pretty much anything after finishing it

[craggy lintel]

Blender's mirror = trash

im fucking sick of it

like, ill be out here doing assets for weeks, no problem with mirror

and then boom shit doesnt work all of a sudden

:(((

it wont mirror my vertex groups

i am literally doing what ive always done

[past stump]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/904210454262456360/941572452817965116/unknown.png a fun lil wip

[kindred plover]

Thank you! It's my latest hyperfixation so I'll absorb everything for at least a week

[past stump]

I deadass skipped the donut tutorial tbh

[spiral sigil]

got bored and made an alien

[craggy lintel]

can someone help me with mirror

.-.

[past stump]

I just threw myself into modeling like throwing a child who doesnt know how to swim in a pool

[craggy lintel]

https://gyazo.com/f7f03b8ec05d96259c76e00044eb8fd5

[spiral sigil]

same

[past stump]

I can try? What seems to be the issue?

Are you trying to mirror the bones???

[craggy lintel]

nope

trying to get my vertex groups to transfer to other side

im pissed because i do this like everyday

its just not wanting to work tonight

[past stump]

Y i k e s
Sorry cant help there, I'm not good with vertex groups n stuff

[craggy lintel]

https://gyazo.com/08d32506b8b3147767cee260ec89f55e

very strong feeling its from this weird thing happening whilst weightpainting

[past stump]

Hope someone can help you out tho

[craggy lintel]

blender = garbage

how tf does this work yesterday

but today it doesnt

-.-

[spiral sigil]

dont you guys hate when u try to pull a hang nail. and get into the good meat?

[craggy lintel]

https://gyazo.com/b8c84a6e2bc65d455b6ed9a21512bac0

ugh

..

not working. even with simple cubes

armature deform before or after applying mirror

i think its before

and no, empty weights isnt the way. it breaks your nice weightpaitning

here’s what I keep doing;

• One armature one mesh
• apply allll transforms (standard procedure for mirroring)
• mirror mesh
• symmetrize arm
• armature deform from mesh to arm
• apply mirror
• arm deform

wtf is happening lol... been doing these all week literally last week

I mixed this combo up so many times to try to fix it

nothing.

[lyric bay]

how can i get blender tools and cat plug in tools

[wanton anchor]

Please can someone help out

I couldn't lounch my blender

[lyric bay]

blender has changed so much since i last used it i need help please

[calm goblet]

well if it survives the honeymoon period ob obsession you'll have a pretty fun skillset starting to build up

[prime zenith]

how do I fix smoothing after extruding vertices ? I tried making a clean UV and shade smoothing, does not do anything

[craggy lintel]

Could someone help me with my error?

Plz

0n0

[craggy lintel]

^

[devout scroll]

recalculate normals

if that doesn't work try setting normals from faces

[craggy lintel]

Is anyone able to tell what’s going on with my process for mirroring?

has to be some checkbox or something doing this

[craggy lintel]

Nobody can figure it out lol

[oak hatch]

Select armature and mesh, parent with empty groups.

You're likely missing a vertex group.

[craggy lintel]

Empty groups messes up weights

I don’t do that way ever

or maybe im Mandela effecting myself

[craggy lintel]

Nah I don’t trust empty groups

I def wasn’t doing that before

I’m so confused i literally do this like 3 times a week

Can anyone help me figure this out?

This is my last step before finishing a big project

driving me insane

[devout scroll]

i have no idea what you're doing as your issues are too scattered

[craggy lintel]

Trying to mirror an object

weighted object

and nothing I normally do is working

@devout scroll

[devout scroll]

nothing is working isn't descriptive enough

[craggy lintel]

huh

the groups aren’t popping in

haha I said it up there 👍

[devout scroll]

i scrolled a bit but got confused

i think i've had an issue with mirroring groups once

where the groups only get mirrored if they already exist

so create empty groups and try again

if it doesn't work i'd just say fuck it and duplicate your object, mirror i object mode, apply transforms, rename groups .R to .L manually and call it a day

not a good solution so try empty groups first

[craggy lintel]

I was going to do this actually haha

[devout scroll]

i remember looking it up and it's a blender limitation currently, if we're talking about the same thing

that it doesn't create groups only mirrors to them if they exist

tho that was a long time ago also

[craggy lintel]

It’s weird because I was mirroring finished hair, ears, tails literally last week flawlessly

Is there a chance I have a bad checkbox going on?

[devout scroll]

no idea

i usually do the janky way described above because i don't feel like figuring it out

that at least keeps blendshapes and vgroups right

[craggy lintel]

dream update “Blender devs have released new version of 3.0, making mirrors better to use!”

Yea that method is what I did before to mirror something with keys

But this method used to take seconds

I’m so irritated by it lol

[spiral sigil]

Is blender A good option to star to model avatars?

[craggy lintel]

the only.

For free really

[untold schooner]

quite possibly the best option for starters

[craggy lintel]

it’s free

[untold schooner]

and it’s not an autodesk program

[craggy lintel]

tell them to start with Houdini

[spiral sigil]

I have no idea in where to start though

[craggy lintel]

Download

[spiral sigil]

done since -days ago

[craggy lintel]

Find a base and play with it

don’t watch tutorials

dig in

See how tf things work

Watch tutorials on tools

Not on avi making

[spiral sigil]

Alright

[craggy lintel]

And then once you do that

Do avatar tutorials

Because VRC specific content has demands

[spiral sigil]

ok

[craggy lintel]

This formula is a interesting approach, and will result in ppl doing better than others, in my opinion

humans learn via hands on. Not via instructions

[untold schooner]

ian hubert and the blender secrets channel on youtube are really good for straight to point stuff

[spiral sigil]

Alright thanks i’ll try it

[untold schooner]

you’re telling me… a 5 hour video series on how to make a donut won’t make me a blender god?

[craggy lintel]

Hahahahahaha

Love it

[night trout]

tbh timelapse tutorials helped me alot more than any normal tutorial did when i was starting out sculpting

[untold schooner]

sculpting is way more straight forward and technique cased

[night trout]

ayyyyy finally got the anger expression i wanted

[night trout]

minor modification of the eye anger expression
making it look a bit better

[spiral sigil]

anybody recognize this guy?

[spiral sigil]

tryna make the look see monster

[fallow osprey]

Learnt how to rig and pose

[thin shadow]

Without the teeth, that looks delicious

[quiet plume]

Hello! I am new to blender type stuff and fiddling with models in general. I took this vroid model into blender after adding some things in unity. I am trying to resize a dress to fit her by my problem is that whenever I go to repair or move things, parts move or fall off the original set place. Before and after pictures~

If anyone is able to help me understand, could you please @ me? ^^

[unborn acorn]

You have to apply all transform on the dress armature and mesh

[lapis smelt]

first time 3d modeling, and watching a tutorial, lets see how it goes.

[devout scroll]

good luck

[fallow osprey]

I've made my whole crew 3D :^) They're all 6ft as well

Commander's head sticks out a little but I'll make the cupola slightly bulgy to allow for it

[night trout]

man
idk what else to do shapekey wise

[spiral sigil]

can someone here help me fix these errors

[quaint jasper]

These are just warnings

[spiral sigil]

what does that mean

will i be able to import it to vrchat?

[devout scroll]

You can ignore warnings

Altho those warnings warn you of stuff that is probably gonna prevent you from uploading, the sdk window should tell you in red what's up

[night trout]

not too sure on this pucker expression

[obtuse sigil]

does anyone know how to import a model from vroid to vrchat bc all of the youtube videos are outdated

[night trout]

also sorry if it seems like im spamming

[dusty heron]

swhomp
what

[atomic hamlet]

"use incase of funny"

[white moth]

I want to use MaterialCombiner but some of my materials use things like metallic and some don't - is there a way to make metalic/shine atlasses in addition to the diffuse one?

[calm goblet]

can't you just bake your metalic and roughness maps out the same way you would the albedo?

[spiral sigil]

spooky jack o lantern man

[sonic zinc]

guys i made an avatar but eyes are popping out when i move my headset

is there anybody can help me?

[unborn acorn]

Are your eye bones linked to your head?

[sonic zinc]

in blender or unity? where should be?

[quiet plume]

Ooo! I recognize the deer! Im actually making an edit of it for a friend. :D

[quiet plume]

Were you already able to bring it into unity first?

[obtuse sigil]

yea but using univrm

[quiet plume]

So its in unity and just dont know how to put it in vrchat? Sorry, trying to understand.

[obtuse sigil]

yes

[quiet plume]

Im not very good with this stuff but I was able to upload a vroid model recently into vrchat.

[obtuse sigil]

and idk what to do with in unity to make sure it walks correctly and stuff

[quiet plume]

I did go with this chicks guide I think.

https://youtu.be/iIEpCN4na9I

[obtuse sigil]

all the tutorials are on windows so its hard to follow

[quiet plume]

Ohh

[obtuse sigil]

ill try that vid again maybe

[thin shadow]

replace ctrl with command

[obtuse sigil]

t

ty***

[spiral sigil]

could anyone help me out making a 2d avatar real quick?
ill pay u if i have to

[pearl swan]

Hi everyone! I want to get into topology but I'm not sure where to start. I plan on making Bojii from ranking of kings for a first project. Any advice, or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

[devout scroll]

Youtube is a good resource

If you want to study topology itself you can watch any videos. I know there's a bunch for maya rather than blender but it shouldn't matter

[spiral sigil]

i got bored. and made another snotty boy head model thing 3.0

[pearl swan]

Yeah I would be using blender to create avatars based off of reference Images. I've watched a lot of vids but everyone has their own way of doing it, and usually there's some feature in blender that doesn't work when I follow their tutorial (that's usually what stumps me).

[devout scroll]

Well if you want character tutorials then i'd watch blender ones

Topology itself you can just study separately

There's also streamers and youtubers who make vrchat avatrs

like rainhet and shonzo

[pearl swan]

Alrighty thanks! Ill just fight through the vids haha.

[fallow osprey]

Commander's cupola shape is wip. Also got the gunner's sights modelled. More to come

[acoustic raft]

Can some one explains his pleas how do I do this ?

[barren dragon]

so i have been trying to make the head of this guy, it seems simple but i just cant get it to look right and i have tried different ways but never work and i was just wondering what would be the best way of going about making it ?

[obsidian nova]

Use basic shapes, the knife tool, extrusion & vertex scaling. This should be really easy to make with nothing but variations on those 4 steps.

If you have specific questions though, shoot.

[barren dragon]

yeah it is simple and i have been using simple shapes but idk why it never turns out looking good

[quaint jasper]

What are you trying to do ?

[acoustic raft]

I was trying to separate mesh but p then Select worked for me select @quaint jasper

[quaint jasper]

Sounds like you're doing Alt P or Ctrl P ?

You can also search for separate by selection

Or shortcut key Y I think

[barren dragon]

idk this kinda looks ok

[spiral sigil]

anybody know how to fix this?

[barren dragon]

flip the normals

[spiral sigil]

ill try that

been modelling it all day.

[barren dragon]

Looks good

[barren dragon]

its done

[fallow osprey]

Cute

[untold schooner]

pepperbox from critical role's Vox Machina

not that complex of a model but i like how it turned out

[calm goblet]

did you make the brass decorations actual geo instead of just using a normal map?

[untold schooner]

i could’ve definitely done it as a normal map but it wouldn’t be the same

i also only spent 4 hours on as you can tell by the smart material usage

[calm goblet]

it wouldn't be the same, but the handle isn't something anyone's gonna see in-game, even in vrc

it'll either get hidden by the hand or it'll be on the belt and not close to the camera

instead of the full-geo decorations i'd have gone with bevels on some of those hard edges so they catch the light nicer and really show off the shapes

cause you could easily just say that the brass is inlayed into the wood to give a smooth handle

but with a nice smooth on the edges here you could get some really nice highlights

[untold schooner]

yeah you’re right i’ll probably do that

[spiral sigil]

this sucks btw i put the background

[spiral sigil]

Yuh! its eyebrow time

[karmic cosmos]

like there must be an easy way to center the entire thing to my 3d cursor

[spiral sigil]

10/10. sell on gumroad for $50

or more

[karmic cosmos]

https://gyazo.com/1321801468f41d2ab99fb0460867f8bf

with holding alt

@devout scroll

[devout scroll]

well if you hold alt it will collapse everything into one point

just do shift+S > to cursor then bottom left tick offset

[spiral sigil]

yo guys can i have some feedback on the head texture?

oops wrong thing

[spiral sigil]

whats the right thing ._.

what is that lol

@spiral sigil

[spiral sigil]

uh.

thats not the real question

one second

[spiral sigil]

tf is this i made and was proud of. i made this 1 year ago. try not to make fun of it

lol

we all start somewhere

yup

[karmic cosmos]

sick nft bro

screenshotted btw

[spiral sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-burning-hell-pain-gif-17379863

i have came a long way.

[crisp stirrup]

indeed.

[devout scroll]

https://puu.sh/IJb4R/3702bbedb6.mp4

[quaint jasper]

One day we'll know why blender has those contextual menus closed by default

[karmic cosmos]

https://gyazo.com/189749b00e1cf0a3c352e899c26a18fe

i have a timeline for some reason\

snap selection to cursor (offset) is nowhere to be found

like my dad

[devout scroll]

press F9

after doing it

it will bring out the same menu

just.. not bottom left

that contextual menu comes up after you do something

but goes away after you click

(since then you're doing something else, like selecting/deselecting)

[karmic cosmos]

f9 does nothing, and even when clicking nothing after nothing shows up

xd just how does nothing work

[devout scroll]

@karmic cosmos https://puu.sh/IJbjn/de23e9e255.png

[karmic cosmos]

i have it on already

[devout scroll]

what happens if you move something with like g or whatever

g, move , click

[karmic cosmos]

then it moves

nothing else

[devout scroll]

weird

[karmic cosmos]

i mean

it should move

[devout scroll]

pretty sure you can move that panel, could it be somewhere else

yeah but you should get that panel after every operation you make

[karmic cosmos]

i have the move panel

when i move

at that location

[devout scroll]

well then that's what you want

it's the same panel whenever you do anything

just different options

[karmic cosmos]

when i do the move to cursor thing it does not show up tho

[devout scroll]

hmm

could be an addon then

let me check

hold up, there's a separate option for it

do you not have it

https://puu.sh/IJbtx/eb198a7461.png

[karmic cosmos]

i have

[devout scroll]

then just use that

[karmic cosmos]

but its not perfectly on the grid floor tho, and adjusting with hand does not snap it picture perfect

[devout scroll]

it's gonna snap with the center of your selection

so you'll likely have to move it up

[karmic cosmos]

is it possible to snap the floor to the grid floor

my ocd cant deal with this

[devout scroll]

you could try creating a plane

should appear on the floor since cursor is there

[karmic cosmos]

true

[devout scroll]

then using vertex snapping

on the z axis snap to that using closest

or with active i guess

select your room, select the floor last so it's the active object (different color)

then using active snapping try snapping to the plane corner

https://puu.sh/IJbyx/31a36693a9.png

it's janky but could work

or well it doesn't have to be vertex, i just usually do vertex

i dunno how grid snapping works when using increments

[karmic cosmos]

when you say select the floor last, you mean that i can just select all and the shift click on the floor?

then its like lighter orange

my god it works

thank you

[devout scroll]

yeah

shift selecting a selected object makes it active

but also last selection is set to active

so either works

it's awkward because the origin of your walls isn't on the bottom

it's in the center of the wall usually

[thorny ivy]

Got a weird renderin' issue with a model I bought the other day. Swappin' textures doesn't seem to help as they still have the same distortion.

Recalculatin' normals an' "set from face" doesn't work either.

Ya'll got any idea on what might be causin' this an'/or tips for fixing it?

[solemn pulsar]

it sure looks like the normals are fliped on just those faces , when you look at it blender with Face Orientation on does it all look the same color, if its not the same color you will need to flip the faces , not recalculate
Mesh-Normals-Flip

[calm goblet]

if you have a normal map plugged in then you need to set the image texture node to "non-color" instead of srgb

[thorny ivy]

Just for the Normal, the color, or both?

[thorny ivy]

That partially solved the problem, appreciate it.

[calm goblet]

just the normal

[thorny ivy]

Well, looks like the Normal's already set to non-color.

As for the face direction, @solemn pulsar , everythin's the same color barrin' the eye whites right out of the box.

No idea what the model creator did since everythin' else is fine, more or lesss, an' the video guide doesn't show/mention any issues like this.

[solemn pulsar]

so strange , it looks like your missing faces on the arm , really weird

[calm goblet]

check your UV map

[fallow osprey]

Interior work

[night trout]

gave the boi some IK Power

[wary echo]

hello!! i want to learn how to make clothing for vrchat models! cld there be someone here to help?
i got to the point where I have a simple top modeled, but now im a little lost. I want to pair the armature to the clothes, so that I can attach it to the model in unity, but not sure how;;

i want to set it up just like if you bought clothes off booth:>

[calm goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBE2q2qn-WQ&list=PLn3ukorJv4vt13YHE3FVJgjgje9dTgaJN

i've not found anyone with better newbie resources yet

[trail python]

https://www.youtube.com/c/RoyalSkiesLLC is a treasure trove but he has a 3d modeling playlist

[calm goblet]

i'd put him more at intermediate, when you kinda know what you're doing already but you need a quick trick to speed things up or improve the basics

[trail python]

to each their own lol

[primal beacon]

grant abbitt is good stuff

[sterile mantle]

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[thorny ivy]

Very impressive work. This wouldn't look out of place in a triple-A racing game in the slightest.

[spiral sigil]

love the car, it go, it's vroom

[cerulean shoal]

amogu

[lost whale]

almost reminds me of the drawkill animatronics with those cool proportions!!

wait, that's VERY similar

is that what you're making?

you're making bonnie!! lmao sorry i'm sloww

[cerulean shoal]

yeah

dw!! yeah im making drawkill bonnie

[quaint jasper]

Damn you made that ?

[spiral sigil]

Is there a quick way to fix all of these separated or will i need to join them all manually

[median pike]

Select all. Merge by distance. Recalculate normals

[cerulean shoal]

😀

do what they said

[safe marsh]

oof i forgot that was a channel

[old prairie]

trying to join my hair with any other object results in whichever object i selected first losing its texture... am i missing something? ive been trying to figure this out for hours 😭

joining any other object with any other object works as it should but shit just goes south when the hair is brought into the mix 😕

solved it, if anyone else has the same problem you need to make sure your UV maps are all named the exact same thing when theyre joined and that you dont have extras!!!

[cobalt light]

Do y'all sculpt the face with the mouth open or closed? Does it matter later on in rigging?

[calm goblet]

i sculpt with the mouth closed cause it's a more natural position for the face, i open the mouth and add the mouth cavity, gums, teeth, tongue etc. after retopo

[cobalt light]

Gotcha

[sonic zinc]

Hey guys! I have a question. Yesterday i created a world and uploaded it into vrchat however whenever i try to teleport mine world it keeps teleporting me to the home base. Do u know why?

[snow spoke]

got a quickie for someone, whats better, modelling perfect muscles or near perfect with more attention to textures? going for a more anime look, probably gonna toon it. for 3.0 avs. pleasse tag me if you reply i get way too many notifs

[mellow cloud]

can someone help me found how to model

[calm goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnj2BL4chaQ&list=PLn3ukorJv4vuU3ILv3g3xnUyEGOQR-D8J
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98FkRIbihyQ&list=PLn3ukorJv4vvv3ZpWJYvV5Tmvo7ISO-NN

[mellow cloud]

this isnt the guide i need

@calm goblet i need avatar guide

to do with refrence

to build of the refrence

[azure rain]

it's important to learn the basics of the modeling software first

[calm goblet]

you need the basics

that's the basics presented in the best way i've seen so far

[mellow cloud]

no i need the corrent tools

[calm goblet]

no, you need the basics

how do you think you're gonna make a character if you can't make a table?

[azure rain]

there's no magic blender tool that's going to make Avatar making super simple

it's going to be a complicated process

you're jumping into hard mode going straight for from scratch Avatar compared to Avatar modifying

[calm goblet]

going straight to making from scratch instead of modding is fine

you just need to learn the basics of the tools and then learn how character art works

cause making avatars is just character art

[fallen bluff]

anyone know what might cause extra geometry to appear on a model when porting into unity? im trying to make like a setting for a world i wanna make, but when i drop the fbx of my model into unity one of the doorways has a big triangle blocking like half of it that wasn't there in blender, and its only the one doorway, others don't have the problem

[calm goblet]

when you have an ngon or you have a diamond-quad sometimes the engine will triangulate it in ways you don't want, manually triangulate the area in blender before you export and you'll be fine

[tough plover]

could also be hidden geometry

alt + H to unhide everything in edit mode

[calm goblet]

nah a triangle appearing over a hole is pretty much always triangulation issues

[tough plover]

if the frame is made of quads, that shouldn't happen

ngons perhaps

[calm goblet]

most people don't make everything quads in blender lol

most of the time it's fine cause engines don't always kill you when they triangulate

but the triangle hole covering thing is typical triangulation issues

[ocean vale]

i lost my materials in unity by trying to extract them what do i do? should i reimport or how do i fix this?

[craggy lintel]

Quad remesh is a great tool

[snow spoke]

lol im trying to post a model ive been working on but no matter how much i block out, even though there are clearly no inappropriate details, discord is sure im tryna post something funky 😦 i just want feedback on my avi

[calm goblet]

you don't need to quadremesh a wall, just triangulate

[calm goblet]

put a cube wherever it thinks there's something inappropriate

[snow spoke]

i did to the point what im trying to get feedback on is completely covered. im sure its the butt, but i mean like.... its a frikkin human model, it has a butt. what i wanted feedback on was the muscle definition i put around the lower back and legs im sure you can see how this can be a problem lol

but im probably fighting an uphill battle, just gonna dm the buds i spose lol

[calm goblet]

ty a different matcap

orange, green, something that isn't human skin coloured

that can usually get around things

[craggy lintel]

Why would i quad remesh a wall lol

[calm goblet]

you weren't saying that in relation to us talking about triangulation issues on someone's doorway? lol

[craggy lintel]

Nope

[calm goblet]

ahh fair enough, but yeah quadremesher is a great tool, well worth the price

[spiral sigil]

Hello....hello hello...
I need some advice for a 3D model I had bought and was attempting to convert it into a VRM file, but I don't think its possible.

Are there any legit ways to turn STL models into fully rigged ones that can be used for VRchat?

STL being that 3D printing specific file.

I've seen no video or no attempt at like...trying to attempt this, so maybe its not possible.

[azure rain]

any particular reason you decide to buy a 3D printing model instead of an actual Avatar

[spiral sigil]

Ummm...well it was cheap enough, and the model specifically was something I wanted to use.

[azure rain]

basically you're going to have to do all the character rigging yourself

[spiral sigil]

Im down to learn that

[calm goblet]

you're gonna have to learn retopo, UVing, texturing, and rigging

stl files are just decimated sculpts most of the time

they're almost always far too high poly to even think about using as an avatar

[spiral sigil]

Yeah, I realize that lol, but are there methods of decreasing poly count? I know for a fact it doesn't need as much as it has

[calm goblet]

manual retopo is the only way you can use for a character

there are automatic ways to reduce polycount but they don't give you the control you need for a deforming mesh

[azure rain]

and typically the slightly smarter decimate tools would require functional weight painting already set up so it doesn't eat your elbows

[calm goblet]

and they'll still give you shit results

[spiral sigil]

.........im willing to paypal someone to do this shit for me, i ain't got the brains for 3D stuff

[calm goblet]

you're basically paying for a full character to be made lol

wouldn't be cheap

[azure rain]

then you should have bought a real Avatar instead of a sculpture

[calm goblet]

could you show us the model?

[spiral sigil]

=v=; nnnnnnnno.......

[calm goblet]

i'm always up for doing someone's characters lol

[spiral sigil]

Can I hit you up in the dms?

[calm goblet]

sure

i don't work free though

[spiral sigil]

Of course, man! Im willing to pay if I think its worth going through all this effort

[calm goblet]

but at the least i can give you an idea of what it'll cost

shoot me a DM and we can go over all the details, saves spamming this channel

[craggy lintel]

quad remesh

$200 tho

[calm goblet]

no

quad remesh isn't good enough to produce final topology for characters

like i said before all of the auto-retopo tools lack the control you need for proper optimized animatable topology

instant messes, decimation, zremesher, quad remesher, none of them give you the right control over density and edgeflow that you need

[obsidian nova]

I feel like we need an instant meshes wt. density mapping options…

Like, imagine if you could use a map to show instant meshes where to concentrate topo…

[calm goblet]

you can do that with zremesher, you can control somewhat where certain edgeloops will be with polygroups and guide curves, still not good enough

by the time you've actually set all that stuff up and tweaked it until you get something mostly usable you could've already finished manual retopo and done a better job

[craggy lintel]

Def an opinion

[calm goblet]

more like a fact, you do something with auto tools you'll have spirals all over the place, poles in places you don't want them, UVing will be a bitch and you don't have enough control over density

what those auto tools are good for is when you want to quickly get better topology for sculpting so you can swap to subdivisions, you wanna do some boolean cleanup on hard surface to keep working on it, you don't actually need good topology for your model and you're just after something fairly clean like for rocks and other environment pieces, or you're making a miniature/figurine/static piece for a render and you just want something easier to pose

[shut flame]

Excuse me

how do i make a troll avatar?

Like inwant

sorry im on ipad

i want to make an avatar kinda like Lolathon

[calm goblet]

you mean an avatar that looks like a troll? like something from lord of the rings?

[shut flame]

but my own

[calm goblet]

oh like a trollface type troll

[shut flame]

no like just scare

jumpscare

idk

im new

Like i want to make my own custom avatar

that can go invisible and i can jumpscare pekple

Yes

but its unplugged

im moving

Uh… cant you make your own

[calm goblet]

you can

you're gonna have a lot to learn

[shut flame]

How?

[calm goblet]

i'll get the playlists

[shut flame]

Does the creating have to be on pc?

[calm goblet]

no

[shut flame]

oof i already have those

[calm goblet]

you jsut have to be able to use at least blender

[shut flame]

oh i have blender

on pc

but itd unplugged

so

[calm goblet]

what do you mean unplugged?

[shut flame]

Im moving houses

[calm goblet]

oh

[shut flame]

so its unplugged

[calm goblet]

well you're gonna have to wait

[shut flame]

Well

like i want me

like my irl person in vrchat

customized

[calm goblet]

you could use that, but it'll look crap

[shut flame]

Yeah

[calm goblet]

even if you know what you're doing it'll look crap

at least it'll look crap compared to an actual artist who knows what they're doing

[shut flame]

But wait

how do i get the avatar to my account

im on quest

[calm goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnj2BL4chaQ&list=PLn3ukorJv4vuU3ILv3g3xnUyEGOQR-D8J https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98FkRIbihyQ&list=PLn3ukorJv4vvv3ZpWJYvV5Tmvo7ISO-NN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBE2q2qn-WQ&list=PLn3ukorJv4vt13YHE3FVJgjgje9dTgaJN there's some playlists for learning how to use blender and how to make characters

good beginner stuff if you wanna go that way

[shut flame]

ik how to use blender

but im still learning it

im like a student know

Now*

[calm goblet]

well you can skip some of the stuff in those vids then

[shut flame]

Forget about it

ill figure it out

Im not a pro

im still learning

https://tenor.com/view/ksi-youtuber-what-really-unimpressed-gif-17592936

🙄

[calm goblet]

i'm half decent, wouldn't put myself up with the best yet lol

i have no idea what character you're trying to make though, so really can't comment much apart from the hair looking very odd

you made yours a lot thinner, hair is too low so the forehead completely disappeared, cheek roundness looks a bit high but you went for that weird stretched mouth so i guess it works? not a terrible model

i think the thing you did best was the skin painting, that's pretty close

ahh yeah fair

there's a lot you could improve but it's not bad