3d-modeling

[hushed umbra]

ty ty

[serene roost]

Hello, I am currently rigging a backpack with a keychain that has Physbone propertys. However after weight painting and the shoulder straps, the keychain does not follow the arm bone due it being a separate object. Anyone know what I can do in this situation?

[devout orchid]

i kinda fail to see the question. you can only have one armature for your whole avi (k you can have more but its unrelated)

so backpack's mesh can be a separate object but it must be the same armature

[serene roost]

its it the same armature. the keychain is child of the arm joint it is just that the keychain and the bag are separate meshes

[steady zealot]

I see the issue. The strap moves slightly when the arm bone moves, but since the chain is a child of the arm bone, it moves way out of place, and you'd like it to stay connected to the strap, yes? Unfortunately, as far as I know, other than using a complex system of constraints, I don't think there is a good way to keep it in place (relative to the new position of the strap upon deformation) since the arm bone moves much more than the strap does. The closest I can think of would be to set the chain to not be a child of the arm bone

[serene roost]

Okay thanks!

[trail patio]

hey guys im just wondering how to enable the smooth edge when using subdivide.. please helpppp ;-;

[devout orchid]

@serene roost jut make it a child of a shoulder/chest and weight paint is the same shade for an upper arm/shoulder?

[quaint jasper]

You're looking for this menu

It's crease

[trail patio]

Hi sorry I suppose there’s a little misunderstanding here. I was wondering how to make the outline of the subdevided mesh curvy (like in the screenshot) I really appreciate the reply tho!! Thanks!!

[quaint jasper]

Wdym by outline/smooth edge? Do you have an example of what you want to do and what you currently have?

[trail patio]

Mmm like in the tutorial I watched (the one in screenshot) I noticed the things r like that

But in my blender it’s more like this

Idk if that explains it, I’m not one that’s good at such ((

[quaint jasper]

So, you have the subdivision modifier on your mesh?

[trail patio]

Yes, the modifier is working but it’s just the outline box thingy that’s still looking very.. low poly?? It doesn’t effect the modifier but kinda itches my brain

Could it be because I’m using 3.6?

[devout orchid]

@trail patio click buttons on top of modifier while in edit mode, one enables preview of mesh itself, the other smoothes control points

[eager mural]

I am having issues applying textures to a model that i imported from blender into unity. I believe i baked textures in blender ok. But when i add some textures to my model in unity, the orientation of the texure is off. Do i need to make sure my blender model has the same coordinates when imported into unity. If so, the how? Any advice appreciated

[devout orchid]

make sure you have only one set of uvs in blender, usually baking requires two (old/baked)

[mint silo]

next model im working with

https://tenor.com/view/optimus-prime-transform-transformers-mad-transform-transformers4-gif-20870587

[steady zealot]

Progress on my first from-scratch avatar. (final Fantasy inspired)

[dull crater]

Currently working on this
My first time getting this far. Trying to figure out what the next steps are after
I plan to make it quest compatible

[gaunt flame]

I'm excited I'm making a 3D tutorial course for the community. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9TGeh1VR5NBKFC6aIbRmtIgEZQY6vLp7&si=BnPYTlsVyvAo0W9N

I just upload one today. https://youtu.be/rUdSTqfkjwM?si=O25JiSlRmFX9b_xU

[vague sonnet]

Does anyone have any recommended workflows for modeling hair? I’ve been using the curves method for a bit but I’ve been hoping to find a method that would help make the hair look like it’s all the same object, if that makes sense

Because the curves are all separate, that sort of deal

[steady zealot]

You could try sculpting hair, and then going over it and retopologizing it

Besides sculpting, and curves, you could try box/poly modeling it with subsurf, if you're comfortable with that (creases are your friend)

though, those methods will look sort of clay-like unless you really buckle down into the details

Though sculpting and box/poly modeling allow you to bake your high poly sculpt/model to the lower poly retopology, so you can keep the details in texture form. And using something like substance painter, might help (smart materials/masks) with shading the crevices and such

[vague sonnet]

I’m looking to try both of these methods this week, what do you mean by creases?

[steady zealot]

When using a subsurface modifier in blender (and I assume other programs as well) you can select edges and in the item tab of the toolbar on the right, you can adjust the crease value.

[steady zealot]

it basically tells the subdivision surface modifier that those edges should be sharp, and not rounded over

[vague sonnet]

This is extremely helpful, thank you

[steady zealot]

You can also use the bevel modifier set to "weight" mode, and then mark edges with bevel weight values (located in the same area) to make them a little more defined and less smooth (in terms of shading)

[steady zealot]

You're very welcome~

[steady zealot]

Alternatively, you can turn on "Auto Smoothing" in the normal data tab, and then mark sharp edges as sharp.

[dull crater]

How do you add eyes and then what comes after sculpting?

[steady zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuQzPDs99yM

This is what you should do after you've finished your sculpt

It turns the messy sculpted mesh into a clean, game/animation-ready model

[dull crater]

Sounds good

[steady zealot]

And typically, Eyes are just spheres (or half-spheres) with bones (armature) where the root of each eye bone is directly in the center of the sphere so that they rotate smoothly

[dull crater]

I still need to add the mesh for them

[steady zealot]

That should probably come later

After you've done the retopology

When the time comes, you can just add a sphere primitive

[dull crater]

Alright, thanks for the help btw

[steady zealot]

No problem!

[dull crater]

Running into a separate problem when I try to start

When I spawn the plain, it is not aligned correctly and appears away from the model. Which may make it impossible to properly allign for retopology

[steady zealot]

Watch the video I linked, it's very useful and covers everything you need to know to get started

they use project from view to align it with the surface of the model. And to get it there to begin with you just kinda gotta move it over there with the widget

[dull crater]

Problem when we got to mirroring.
It mirrored onto itself rather than the model

[steady zealot]

You have to set the origin to be the middle of the scene (or the same origin as the sculpt). Then you move the plane in edit mode

[dull crater]

How do I do that?

[quaint jasper]

CTRL + A > Apply all transforms

You can Google most things for Blender though

[bleak mica]

Hello everyone i have a question can someone also depinarize p3d files and fix the distortion of those files? i managed to debinarize some p3d models but they are distorted and i dont know how to fix that. Is it possible can anybody help with that?

[hushed leaf]

what is "depinarize"?

[dull crater]

I have gone through several videos and taken all of the advice. I still cannot set the origin point
Every time I try, the plane spawns to the side and will mirror into itself

[barren meadow]

Objects are added at the 3D cursor by default. After you add it, while in Object mode with the Plane selected, you do as Ruuubick mentions (ctrl + a, all transforms). Then you can add a Mirror modifer.

The 3D cursor sticks to the surface of the mesh you double-click on. Making it very easy to start the way you're planning to. Though, there are other programs and workflows for retopo as well.

[dull crater]

I'll give it a shot when I get home from work
I was not aware of a double click so that may help

Just to make sure

Object mode
Double click on model of bird
Ctrl + a, all transforms
Add the plane
Add mirror modifier

Is this the correct order?

[azure sluice]

Modeling a critter for a friend of a friend

[dull crater]

Sorry I keep asking about this

[quaint jasper]

Yeah that seems correct

[solar fossil]

Another option is to use the eyedropper/dropdown from the mirror modifier tab to set the base mesh as the reference for the mirroring plane, but it only works right if the base mesh has the origin in the middle.

[dull crater]

This has fixed the initial issue
Although I believe they should be 100 percent on the same spot on the other side, which is not the case

[dull crater]

Added context
The one on the left is the mirrored while the one on the right is the original

[dull crater]

Or is this something I don't have to worry about?

[barren meadow]

@dull crater Do you know what your Origin is and how to move it around?

Every object has an Origin. Knowing how to manipulate that Origin is an important aspect of navigating, modeling, and modifying in Blender.

In this case, either your origin points are not aligned or your mesh's origin isn't in the center of it. It could be that your mesh isn't perfectly symmetrical or that it was mistakenly moved off of the 0 point of the X axis.

Your Origin will look like a little point that matches the color of your selection outline by default.

If your mesh is symmetrical and its origin is still centered, then the mesh needs to be moved back to the 0 of the X axis.

If the origin is offset and the mesh is symmetrical, you can set origin to geometry using the search function.

If you want to play around with manually moving the origin, you can move it to the 3d cursor as well.

[dull crater]

How do I do this part?

Due to how the sculpting process works for me
It tries as hard as it can to be symmetrical, but there are spots where it just couldn't

[restive sorrel]

trying to put it in a pose but getting this error any ideas

[steady zealot]

this is really good! Also a very cute design

[azure sluice]

Thank you! I appreciate the kindness and support :3

[quick thunder]

looks sick
what if you incorporated little glowy particle strings inbetween each joint? could look cute

[azure sluice]

That'd be cool, but I didn't wanna stray too far from the original design that I was provided -w-

I usually do add small details like that on all my models though, cause small details just make things look way more nicer to the eyes :3

[quick thunder]

Fair enough ye

[azure sluice]

Im just trying to find out what to model next tbh, I have a long list that Im workin through currently

[dull crater]

Once again, sorry I keep asking these things

[quaint jasper]

Go in edit mode and select the entire model then search for the Symmetrize function

[tired marsh]

This is just a clean up job I've been working on still working on it I'm sure everybody recognized the avatar and the character

[frosty void]

Prop only shows in mirrors...why?

[cursive summit]

Idk how this even happens, but I import the model into unity and it looks like what it does on the left, the right is what its supposed to look like

[devout orchid]

triangulate your stuff

[hallow epoch]

Was wondering if anyone could help me, i just bought a model for an avatar i want to make, i just need to retexture it, i want to do that by mmoving it from unity into blender, can anybody helpp?

[wheat delta]

You probably got a .fbx or .obj file in there. Blender is able to import those, but hitting file>import and then the format you want to import, navigate to the model file and select it, should be all it takes.

You can't just drag the file into Blender, if you tried that.

[shrewd hazel]

why is this plain's uv mapping infinitely thin

[manic siren]

what happens if ya select all the faces of the object?

[manic siren]

don't know a ton about blender but that looks like an edge by itsef

but i could be wrong

[faint bronze]

Could be an extra edge, yeah. That's what it looks like. Try adding a texture to the object. My guess it it'll look fine, and you'd probably be safe to delete the extra edge

[shrewd hazel]

im not following

im a masssive idiot when it comes to blender

[faint bronze]

select the edge and delete it. see if anything change. it should remove the weird UV

[shrewd hazel]

wont that also delete the face though?

like i want the face that is pure black but idk how to texture it because its mapping is so thin

wait i have an idea

[manic siren]

if it's an extra edge it shouldn't be connected to the face, you should be fine to remove it worst case undoe the change

[faint bronze]

yeah this is what I was trying to get at

[shrewd hazel]

deleting the edge also deletes the face

[manic siren]

make a new face?

[faint bronze]

Did you delete the one that's creating that UV or did you just select the edge on the object, cause if there was an extra edge you could have selected the one connected to the geometry by mistake

[manic siren]

ive had it before where blender would make random extra edges and i'd have to go through deleting edges and replace the faces

[faint bronze]

I wonder, was it after extruding an area?

Like a possible double extrusion

[manic siren]

couldn't say didn't notice till after revisiting a project

but it's very possible

i do fat finger more then i'd like to admit

[faint bronze]

I do it all the time too 🫠

[shrewd hazel]

i dont think there are any extra edges because i cant find them

[faint bronze]

Have you tried creating new UVs?

[shrewd hazel]

also i feel like i should of said this sooner but i made the face by going to vertex -> New Edge/Face from Vertices

[shrewd hazel]

i dont know how to do that

[faint bronze]

oh

[shrewd hazel]

i am very basic at blender

[faint bronze]

Put a texture on the object and see how it looks

Maybe you wont need to fix it

[shrewd hazel]

i made a new material and texture and it still has the same result

but i have a feeling this isnt what you mean

[faint bronze]

What I mean is do the textures look fine

on the object itself

[shrewd hazel]

im so sorry i dont follow

[faint bronze]

ignore the UVs for now

Put a texture ON the object. Does the object's textures look as they should on EVERY face?

if they do, honestly I'd ignore the weird UV

[shrewd hazel]

they do all except for that one face with the weird UV

wiat

[faint bronze]

okay, then you'll need to redo the UVs. I don't know how Blender works since I use Maya, so for your cause I'd look up a youtube video for how to UV map in Blender

[shrewd hazel]

i just did somthing by accident and it seemingly fixed my problem

i just dragged from the middle of the line

and now its not a line anymore its a triangle

[lost panther]

Anyone know why the UV isn't showing here? It came with made UVs, but it won't show. Even if I do "Unwrap UV"

[quaint jasper]

Unsure if you've solved it, but have you tried deleting that existing UVMap and making a new one to unwrap on? Depending on which blender version this model was made on, it might have lost data on the way if yours is less recent

[uneven quartz]

Trying to edit a model's blend file AGAIN, and whenever I opened it, I got this. I checked it out in Unity, and this error causes the upper legs to deform in such a way that is catastrophic. If I leave the unity project and re-enter it, it gets even worse and looks even more diabolical, as in, it looks like the model was sucked into a black hole. Does anyone know a fix or something that I need to do in order to prevent the leg deformation and the black hole effect?

I'd show a picture of what both parts look like in Unity but I'm hella too afraid to even go in. I get nightmares even thinking abt it.

[keen sierra]

my 3-week wip <.< (censored bc discord be discord aye)

[pseudo knoll]

cooking /w the fallback protogen

got it down by 1k polys, so I have more headroom to add bits and bytes

got this sloptology (the ear crease)

looking like this instead

snap to symmetry is also a godsend when you'reworking with an already complete avatar

[versed kettle]

Ratking from destiny 2

[dull crater]

Hi. It me being dumb again

What buttons is it again to duplicate the planes in topology?
It's all aligned now so that's fixed up
I just forgot what buttons to press to actually duplicate the planes

[solar fossil]

If you want actual duplicate it's shift+d (alt+d for linked duplicate, only in object mode)
Select an edge and press E for extrude if you wanted to do that instead

[cobalt tiger]

Head under 5k from scratch

might make low poly regular looking dudes with these. hope to make the head a popular head base

[sour thorn]

Is anybody here good with blender, I started learning it last week and I tried to reopen a file I was working on today but when I remeshed I got this:

Second picture is the problem im having, first pcture is what it looked like before the remesh

[proven wraith]

What’s the ideal Blender version to use that Cats work on?

[devout orchid]

dev/forks work on 3.6

[empty fox]

Probably the latest 4.1 if you use the unofficial continuation https://github.com/Yusarina/Cats-Blender-Plugin-Unofficial-

[proven wraith]

Thank you both for the information! Been meaning to upgrade for a long time now from 2.8

[empty fox]

Official CATS has been pretty much abandoned, tuxedo is the continuation when it comes to baking textures and this is the overall continuation.

[barren meadow]

Remesh doesn't like holes in your mesh.

If there's a hole anywhere before you try to remesh, remesh does this.

[lost panther]

I did fix this. I was in image editing, not in the UV editing thing haha

[swift jolt]

quick half days of work

[pastel tendon]

i made a cool robot arm thing

[steel fable]

It would have been cooler if it was Gut's prosthetic arm from Berserk with an arm cannon and all.

[swift jolt]

Mostly done . Phew

[burnt glacier]

Does anyone in here have any good videos on how to bake normals into a mesh? ive never done it before but it seems like it might be a bit easier then manually making things like folds and creases

[swift jolt]

Super easy gimmie a sec to find one

https://youtu.be/j3lwBDtC0ic?si=352IEmFeXQUfjvDl

This one is pretty straight forward. He talks a littlw fast tho so 0.75 speed is good

[burnt glacier]

thank you ill be sure to check it out

[solid minnow]

Redoing my chibi base I started a while ago. What do you all think so far?

[solid minnow]

More detail added :3

[pseudo knoll]

quest has extremely limited shading, so "true emissives" and whatnot" cannot be achieved, solution?
Just make the emissive parts of your avatar face towards the same direction, normal-wise, so you can become unshadeable and your emissives will pop out on quest

[pseudo knoll]

poly count so high you're getting Moiré Patterns

create some duplicate projects and tweak the retopo tool settings until the issue is fixed, if not then try using various retopo add-ons and see what changes

[dull crater]

Running into a new problem. I try to duplicate the plane with Shift + D
But it's invisible. Only thing I can see is a single line

Not present in the photo

But the white line that gets copied is identical to the white line selected on the plane in the photo.

[pseudo knoll]

did kirby steal kay jay's hat (from virtual insanity) and then consume an android lol

looks nice

[pastel tendon]

what

lmfao

thanks

[pseudo knoll]

not enough people abuse the "crispiness" of not using texture filtering / bilinearization

[pastel tendon]

true

[dull crater]

But yea, it copies the tiny highlighted white line, but not the plane itself

[dull crater]

Went and edited a photo as a demonstration of the issue

[keen sierra]

Still on this x)

[spiral sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1224726880935088209/1228433828054302831/image.png?ex=663541a7&is=6622cca7&hm=161f888c01537f0c8b80070bbe4e5cf1be159d8440f3edf247ee52228e0bf110&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1440&height=630&

fish

he is kawaii

[indigo sedge]

One of commissioned models made by me 👀 🍄

[dull crater]

Yea, this is the best way to describe the issue I've run into

[quaint jasper]

That's super cute

[keen sierra]

maw!

[keen sierra]

progress on the maw

[solid minnow]

She's almost done!! She will be getting some clothes as well though.

[dull crater]

Again, sorry for all the issues I've been running into
Hopefully this will be the last one until I've finished the topology.

But I tried to copy the plane, but I don't see the plane, I see the side of the plane it copied, but nothing else.
Image edited as example

[vague galleon]

How do I use viseme in blender because it seems that that is the only way to get it to work

?

Is this correct

I am new to all of this

the mouth always is open WTF

I'm really getting pissed off at this

bro is typing an essay

[barren meadow]

Not for you, dw

Sorry.

[vague galleon]

Hey is the picture correct of how to get a viseme to work?

[azure rain]

you did literally put the exact same blend shape on every viseme except like two so that's not exactly going to result in changing mouth

[vague galleon]

I told you I'm new to this

[azure rain]

sil would be the no talking blend shape

[vague galleon]

where is a vc so I can show you

[barren meadow]

Talking and mouth is like "AAAAAAAeeeAAAAAAee"

[azure rain]

there is none on this server

[vague galleon]

damn it

[vague galleon]

?

[vague galleon]

I DMed you

[azure rain]

are there any other blend shapes available for the Avatar besides those two

[vague galleon]

well, yes but idk where to put them

also I called you in dms

[azure rain]

you're in the right spot you just need to match them up with the same letters so ff goes in the ff slot

[barren meadow]

That's an unrealistic expectation to have of a stranger imo

[vague galleon]

there is only A E I O U

[vague galleon]

what to you mean?

I need a visual help but idk

[azure rain]

expecting me to get in a call with you

[barren meadow]

There's a lot of free online resources.

[vague galleon]

dude I said I need a visual help FFS

[barren meadow]

Give me a moment.

[azure rain]

what is there to show you just match up the letters the closest you can

[vague galleon]

what is so hard to just help someone who is new to this

[barren meadow]

Expectation of a stranger to commit to being your personal guide for free is a bit unrealistic. Being rude is likely to discourage others from helping you in the future. They were trying to help you.

Give me a moment to get a link to VRC School.

[vague galleon]

It's just for this part ffs yet all y'all say that I need my hand held for every single micro feature

Really unrealistic of you tbh

[azure rain]

https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unity/audio-ovrlipsync-viseme-reference/ here's what each of the letters in the VR chat viseme look like visually

[barren meadow]

If you are new, you don't understand the complexity of things you're asking.

Be nice.

A server I'm in has people compiling data and help here.

https://vrc.school/

It can help with things later on as well.

That mainly compliments the existing Docs VRC officially provides.

[azure rain]

the rest you'll have to figure out yourself as far as what's the closest mouth shape

[keen sierra]

we have a tongue and its rigged ^_^ finally i can move on to other body parts lmao

[dull crater]

Does anyone know how to fix this issue I've been having
I'm trying to copy this plane, but this is all it does

[river geode]

Hey guys not sure which channel is most proper. So I have a model I wanna slap some clothes on.

The workflow I usually follow is to resize, sculpt, cut the base avatars bones down, do a data/armature transfer etc.

The issue I'm hitting is that my model is T-Pose and all the clothes I want are A-Pose. Not sure what steps I should follow to make this work.

[devout orchid]

store t-pose as a separate pose, then a-pose model, store it as rest pose (cats or manually), attach etc, load old pose, store as rest pose

oh, you edit the og armature. not sure how it would work

[river geode]

Nah, that worked-ish. Issue I hit after that was the model I grabbed had almost 400k Faces, and had internal faces, AND they didn't weld seams

So I have to decide if I want to continue sinking time into it. Or find another model

[proven linden]

I have been struggling how to model this in Blender. If you could really help me, I would really appreciate it by, providing me the steps. Also how do I make bend onto the face.

[subtle axle]

why when i try to loopcut the cutting goes in a very weird way???

i am trying to add more polygons on that sleeve, i just don't know how

[devout orchid]

edge loops works only on quads, at least in a meaningful way . try tris to quads first, otherwise just use knife with cut through (and hand itself hidden to not be in a way)

[dull crater]

Apologies for me bringing this up again
I am unsure what I did wrong here, but the plane doesn't seem to be copying correctly. Instead only copying the edge of the plane
(Retopology)

Additional details

Upon moving the plane away from the copies, I'll find multiple edges in the spit I originally copied from. But upon deleting them and trying again, the issue happens again

[dull crater]

I had also gone back and watched the tutorial that I was sent when I was having some other problems with this.
Everything is set up the same, however, the video says nothing on this particular issue

[devout orchid]

wdym not copying, what exactly you do, what shortcut and when what is selected

[keen sierra]

If youre retopologizing, you dont want to duplicate anyway, you want to use e on an edge in edge select mode and extrude

[dull crater]

Ah, I'll give that a shot in a little bit, for the longest time, I thought it was just shift + D

[dull crater]

Update: thank you guys so much
It turned out that yes. I was using the wrong buttons

[dull crater]

These are the three spots the issue is present in

More minor issue

I can't go in object mode to fix this since they are both technically the same
And no matter how I orient it, I can't use
Ctrl + alt to select both to merge

I am trying to merge these into one

Ignore image 1, accidentally sent that

But there are three points I'm trying to merge together, but no matter which way I orient them, I can't select them with ctrl + alt to merge

Or would removing the part on the top of the head work better?

[devout orchid]

uhhh if its the same mesh you use smth like f (select two edges to connect with a new quad) or select two or more verticies and use m - merge to connect them into one.

no idea what ctrl+alt merge is

[dull crater]

Both of these are part of the same mesh

Somehow, I managed to separate them from one another

[devout orchid]

to join two separate objects just select both and ctrl+j in object mode

[dull crater]

They still count as the same object and both light up when I select one or the other

[devout orchid]

then why you think they are separate objects

[dull crater]

It's not that it's two separate objects. What had happened was I started with a spot on the beak, worked up the head, then branched down towards the mouth. Causing spaces between with I was doing with the head and mouth. Somehow, I accidentally deleted the vertices connecting what was on the top to the bottom

[devout orchid]

just f/m as i said

[devout orchid]

theres also an automerge button when two verticies are close enough so you can just drag them, but i dont know if its usefull for retopo since you need to use other type of snapping

[dull crater]

Where's that?

[devout orchid]

somewhere around shading selection i think? top right corner of 3d

[dull crater]

Cut it down to only a small few vertices atop the head.
The problem I'm running into now is automerge refusing to work. I am not sure what I'm doing wrong with it

[keen sierra]

Dont take what im going to say as rude. If you are following a tutorial, and that tutorial tells you to remesh this dense, you may be looking at the wrong thing. Remeshing is not only meant to reduce vertice count, but it also is supposed to give you a nice base with good edge flow that is rather basic - meaning you can always add more topology by adding loop cuts later as long as your edge flow is okay, but more topology from day 1 also means you have more to decimate, fix and merge later. You dont want to need to retopo your retopo'ed model. Furthermore, speaking about edge flow, if you are expecting this model to move later, you have more things to think about than just density: Areas with a lot of movements need right topology to deform correctly. A prime example for this is the eye and mouth area. Both need "rings" around them so you can make the model deform smoothly and more as expected. It makes sense to map out areas that need this certain type of topology first, kinda like patches, and then sew them together later by filling in the rest. Also I must point out you seem to have skipped every basic blender tutorial out there. I cant say i didnt, but i did that knowlingly, and while doing so did my own research whenever i needed using google. This issue you are having is very basic. Again, Im not trying to be mean here, but maybe i can convince you to watch another few more basic tutorials so you can make decent progress on your project without gettings stuck all the time. Anyway, if auto merge merges vertices incorrectly, click the "Options" bar at the top right and set the merge distance lower.
Here's a few things you may want to consider watching: https://youtu.be/gLIKFCFxnIM?si=qSh3hTUuMh2gpNEo https://youtu.be/3EG7krYP1h0?si=HRH1A4B4UrQts6G- https://youtu.be/OY7FlJ8xTz0 https://youtu.be/JAVuPYCcd1k

Oh also, since you're modeling, i have a tip for you. If your topology becomes rigid a lot and the squares deform a lot, use the smooth brush and set it to "surface" rather than "laplacian". This will smooth the topology while preserving most of the volume. Ofc this isn't 100% perfect but it will help with evening the quads out. You can best see the effect of it if you enable wireframe in the viewport settings.

[dull crater]

Yea, I watched another video last night after posting this too
In which they went over methods to get the face done easier. Making sure it's clean and able to be merged more easily

[pseudo knoll]

Manual Semi-mirrored (to allow non-symmetrical details in the chest regions) UV unwrap, broke three blendshapes I spent so long on but it was worth it because clean uv's hell yea

[proper ice]

in blender, how can you tell what units you're working with? (meters, feet, inches, etc.)

[quaint jasper]

It's metric units by default

[pseudo knoll]

I've decided to install blender on steam and transport my config there so I can keep track of how much time I've been starting at a gray screen with lines and polygons on it

the hours are stacking up fast, help

[pseudo knoll]

blursed 2d-eye movement solution (creds to crazium for teaching how in casual conversation)

[pseudo knoll]

0.0001 of a degree is enough to move it 1/20th across the face holy cow

very afraid of point precision errors

[proper ice]

What is this in reference to?

[onyx jewel]

likely you are using the wrong transforms

check for Eye.L or Eye.R as that's the most common error I see

[pseudo knoll]

nono
its so I can have 2d eye movement

the longer the eye bone is, the less it will rotate and the more it will slide around an "axis"

got it working yesterday

pretty neat having an led screen have fakeish eye movement

[rose gust]

hey this is a lil random but does anyone know a good way to possibly model like toony serrated teeth? been making a custom mouth on a model i like and im not sure how to tackle this part/idea. Mid artist rendition for reference

[pseudo knoll]

toony works with toony, be cautious when mixing toony with realistic / organic structures, you may get something blursed,
you could always model real teeth in a toony artstyle that are sharp triangles, mirror modifier for symmetry and place them around until it looks satisfactory

[rose gust]

hm alright... was just wondering if there would be a better way to do it than just that lol. mainly with wanting to have the teeth fit together nicely, or at least close enough to nicely as i can manage

[pseudo knoll]

that requires doing it manually, if you look at the rex's teeth solution, it was either: modelled then placed by hand, or sculpted, decimated, and placed by hand

it requires expirementation and looking at a reference for consistency

[hushed leaf]

you could literally draw those lines using the knife tool

[steady zealot]

It's not about the length of the bone. It's about the distance of the pivot of the bone from the plane where the eye needs to move on. For example, keeping your eye bones the exact same size, but moving them farther behind the head, and turning the max eye movement way down will work too.

this is my shittily drawn diagram to demonstrate

the green dots are the bones, and the light blue circles are the radius from the center of the bone

as you can see, due to them being further behind the head, the dimension that they move on is much more "flat"

[pseudo knoll]

the thing is is the polygons of the eyes are so close to the head (ridiculously close) that I needed them to be that far out

since its a visor, the surface is really flat

[rose gust]

sorry to be asking again but i was trying to fix/remake the corner of the mouth to be better but when smoothing it it keeps doing this weird thing and im wondering if anyone knows what might be causing it. I know its rough in that area and im working on it but it shouldnt be doing whatever that is...

[pseudo knoll]

any blendshapes attached to the verticies?

vert normals might be borked, usually caused by a blendshape left active, using modifiers or residual weight paints
select vertices
Alt + N
Reset vectors // smooth vectors

[rose gust]

there shouldnt be any blendshapes and if so i royally did something lol but ill check that to see if it helps! also still tried to clean up the mouth and ended up with this. its just the area i cut out/redid ;w;

oh that sorta fixed it?! that was with reset ill try smooth thanks

the separate sections seem to be shaded differently but it looks smooth/right so thanks!

[quaint jasper]

You might want to check the normal orientation of these faces

[rose gust]

.... O H H

[spare plover]

What blender version is good?

[fleet parrot]

I think this is where i'd ask but which unity version should i be using as a first timer? Or is there not much of a difference

[devout orchid]

@spare plover 3.6 for avatars (cats plugin), the latest for worlds (just becuse why not, more powerfull nodes etc)

[rose gust]

so i did a slight goof: do you guys know a good meathod for mirroring something in blender? ctrl M keeps doing something weird and i cant seem to duplicate it either-

i mirror modifier-ed this and now i need to add it to something without the modifier

[devout orchid]

uh, just split it, add mirro, apply, combine back? hard to understand the issue

[rose gust]

oh- sorry

basically i just have half a face i need to make a whole lol

[devout orchid]

well normally to mirror stuff you just add mirror modifier

[rose gust]

and when i tried to do the duplicate or mirror shortcut parts were getting stretched and im not sure why concidering im pretty sure i have everything selected. used ctrl l to help with that

[devout orchid]

dto duplicate along some axis

[rose gust]

i used the mirror modifier but

[devout orchid]

then your origin is in thef wrong place

[rose gust]

im putting it on the model that doesnt have a mirror modifier

oh

how could i fix that?

[devout orchid]

shift s - cursor - to 0 or whatever its called

theb obect - set origin - to 3d cursor

[rose gust]

alrighty! ill see if it helps

ty

[rose gust]

got it working! just now im stuck on another thing lol

is the mirror modifier the only way to mirror adding and removing vertexes?

needing to attach it and edit stuff on both sides but the top mirror thing seems to only mirror moving parts

this is called i did not think ahead

[pseudo knoll]

I have no clue where to ask but with the deprication of the Q1 will we see perf rank poly-count limits on Quest ever change? I'm looking forward to some insight for some future-proofing / prepping

[azure rain]

the poly limit has already been adjusted for the Quest 2 when it came out

[pseudo knoll]

oh

[heavy sonnet]

cut them out with the knife tool

i've done this before

does anyone know how to change instances rotation to align with normals in blender?

i don't know anything about geometry nodes btw so i haven't been using them

they stay at the same orientation

even though the plane is rotated

i just don't want them to be deformed along the curve, only rotated to the same orientation as the normals

[heavy sonnet]

nvm i think i figured it out

[rose gust]

honestly would have been easier than what i ended up doing lol

eh

but uh im trying to start the blendshapes part of working on this but for some reason the shape key section is only editable in object mode. when i go into edit i cant interact with it and the words are greyed out

there are some previous shapes still on it but i cant do much more than change the value

[pseudo knoll]

it will be cannon soon that the fallback protogen uses nuclear fission for battery power instead of having a generic battery icon on the back

[pseudo knoll]

last phase, I had to manually bake the emission light bounces, but because the mesh is not static, I had to manually overpaint it so it would make sense ^^, not fun, but its worth it since its the public fallback

[lone blaze]

finally stepping out of my comfort zone and trying character modeling

[quaint jasper]

Ankles feel quite far back on the ref sheet, and torso is minuscule (proportions and location of bones is relevant for FBT) rest seems good !

[barren meadow]

Stilts don't bother some peeps. Gotta be animu.

[lone blaze]

Well atm this is the blocking process. Haven’t gotten to sculpting yet

Plus not really using it for vrchat

[tawny pollen]

just wanted to let everybody know that I've returned

[azure sluice]

https://fxtwitter.com/chegg_chegg/status/1786100519498572072?s=46&t=M5lGWoW1SkBPd5Qrv-JB4w

[rose gust]

thats looking good!

[quaint jasper]

I'm curious about all the changes you've made from the reference sheet to the model, is that stuff you're working on with the person commissioning it?

[quaint parcel]

I've designed this avatar, how is it?

[azure sluice]

oh! yeah, we're friends lol, we both had some ideas (like her being sorta chubby)!

Its been really fun and interesting making something thats not robotic lol

[quaint jasper]

Yeah I bet! Can't get away with ball joint weight paint anymore

[azure sluice]

unlucky right...? 😭

but hey! Im always down for a challenge

[quaint jasper]

🫡 stay strong soldier

[azure sluice]

Of course! Im just sorta hoping I dont attract the furry masses (I will not be prepared for the OC invasion)

joking of course, business is business

[tired marsh]

Hey I don't know if it's okay to ask for helping here in the section unless there was a measure part of the server that I couldn't notice but I do have this problem with blender every time I click on an object it creates a new UV setting and stuff selecting the model and I'm not trying to do that it's just create a movie layout and I'm just trying to select the model without click and drag and highlighting it basically I don't know what's wrong everything else works it's just the clicker it's not working correctly

[quaint jasper]

Could you record a video of the issue? I've never heard of a problem like that

[tired marsh]

All right hopefully you'll be able to hear me I recorded using my phone

[quaint jasper]

Have you ever customized the Keymapping in the Preferences window?

Any add-on that could be doing this? I assume it started at some point or is that a fresh Blender install?

[tired marsh]

It just recently started doing this I don't know if I accidentally hit something using my keyboard or something but it just started doing this and it's the first

[quaint jasper]

Can you make sure you didn't disable selection in your collection? You can see it in the top right corner, there's a cursor icon

[tired marsh]

With that being settings?

[quaint jasper]

In the top right corner where the collection is, the one that lists your light, cube and camera, on the right of that there should be icons

[tired marsh]

Would it be better if I pop in one of the discord called channels and that didn't work cuz I did make sure and it's still not working

[quaint jasper]

Try this

[tired marsh]

Thank you it worked I must have click it somehow by keyframe by accident I don't know which one that was but thank you

[quaint jasper]

[azure sluice]

Some texture work thats been taking me forever :C

[tired marsh]

Okay I have an update from my zhongli Geo archon outfit the textures and stuff are pretty much done I'm just working on rigging it tell me what you guys think of it so far I would like to hear what you guys think and don't worry he's going to be a public 😁

I apologize this was taken with my phone

[azure sluice]

Just need to rig her now

[rustic pecan]

Can someone give me a reference for making visemes

[azure rain]

https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unity/audio-ovrlipsync-viseme-reference/

[rustic pecan]

Tysm

[subtle axle]

why any model made with Umodeler is invisible when placed on an avatar?

there is a unity package called Umodeler which adds a 3d modeler to sketchup, which can make models but i have tried that to model in unity but any model i make becomes invisible and i have no idea why

i would use it to make multiple props but it keeps disappearing and i don't really see why as it doesn't let me change the visibility of my models or maybe i don't know where to change it

i literally have no idea why i made models in Umodel and they are invisible while using them on an avatar, although, when i make worlds with umodeler everything works just fine, so why does everything made with umodeler disappear on an avatar? what could the issue be?

in the past i have tried modeling guns for avatars in umodeler but it did not work but i still want to try, umodeler is very good for cubic shapes

i just need help to find out what do i need to make those umodeler models appear on the avatars

[jovial seal]

made armor for my custom wickerbeast model :P

[glossy roost]

Does anyone got tips for 3d modeling vrc avatars because some people start it differently and was wondering if anyone knows anything to help start making vrc avatars

[thin shadow]

Start with a template like vroid. Or start with free booth models. After that, explore it with blender

[glossy roost]

Ok tbh I don't prefer vroid for quest stuff but I can try booth

Modeling is there any tips to make it more easy is what I meant tho

[thin shadow]

yes. of course it's highly subjective.

[barren meadow]

Being mission-oriented is a good way to learn.

After you look at some basic beginner videos on stuff like navigating and common hotkeys, open up the program with a goal in mind and start pressing buttons. If you notice something you're trying to do feels really clunky, there's probably a better way. Ask questions or Google at that point.

You can always watch some videos of someone modeling something that has their keystrokes displayed on-screen and pick up some of their workflow and techniques.

Most importantly, you're probably not going to create a masterpiece for a bit. Be content with progress. The more time you spend in the program, the more comfortable you'll become, and thus your hands and the program will start doing what you want more frequently. Expect it to take time to produce things that you genuinely impress yourself with.

OH. And use references until you feel comfortable doing something from memory!

[thin shadow]

short version :

[barren meadow]

Or, you know, you just be dismissive when someone asks.

[quaint jasper]

Rainhet has a wonderful playlist on her YouTube channel for beginners for an entire avatar from scratch

[mint torrent]

just wondering, is there any way to make disconnected faces (for extra face toggles on a low poly avatar) have the same normals as the rest of the head mesh?

right now they look obviously disconnected like this

[devout orchid]

data transfer modifier - face corner data - custom normals, or smth like this

maybe for copies you just need to disable autosmooth before splitting so it doesnt try to recalculate them

[runic mesa]

Hi @subtle axle
I'm a developer at UModeler. Did you use the Skinned Mesh Renderer for the avatar? If so, UModeler won't work because it only supports static mesh modeling. Instead, how about trying UModeler X? It supports rigging, so you can edit the mesh in the Skinned Mesh Renderer.
Here's the homepage of UModeler X: https://www.unity.umodeler.com/
If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.

[glass marten]

Can someone teach me how to make a model for vrc quest

[valid needle]

youtube

[pseudo knoll]

about this, problem with the internet is that a decent amount people will be too nice to give constructive criticism, and those that do may do it rudely and / or void the "what stands out that is good and bad" part, the great determination of whether an avatar looks good [in your case] comes to how well humanoid proportions are done, including muscle tone, head size (accounting for muscle), your artistic direction looks like it will be great, however from an outsiders perspective the head has a very-common issue where its that uncomfortable blend between human and animal, take some account for the head / face culture of VRChat by stopping by gumroad and seeing the trendy furry avatars, most of them have a animalistic-leaning and organic head shape.
for a buff character with that 7-8 head tall height, I'd (personally) expect to see some sort of head figure that compliments it, like a sharp jawline or that "focused eyes" look
it looks like it has great potential, the main issue with avatar (from the ground up) creation is always going to be respecting that balance between proper human and animal proportions

that is the best critique i think I can offer atm, not much but worth a shot

[subtle axle]

Hi @runic mesa
i tried creating a model in Umodeler X but i could not find any useful tutorials, plus i have tried making a shape in Umodeler X and then rigging it but it did have the same exct result, the shape did not appear inside of VRChat, please could you explain how to use the skin mesh render? i tried making static models as well but it did not work...

[jovial seal]

when making single material models is it worth using a 4k texture or can i use 1440p

[devout orchid]

whos 1440p, its powers of 2. it never hurts to have more intially and you can always lower it in unity. if pc is up to the task.

[fair mason]

ight so mb to the mod who timed me out, not normally in this server but anywho..

I finished the Charlie model thing. i despise how it looks from the front but whatever

looks like one of those easter peeps 😭

[cerulean shoal]

pretending his nose is actually his mouth from the front. hes so happy 🙂

[quaint jasper]

That looks really on point! I wonder if you can the two eyes very close to each other by default like they look in the left image, as is the ref
https://art.ngfiles.com/images/2275000/2275364_bergmik_charlie-smiling-friends-turnaround.gif?f1641237675

[fair mason]

im still going to experiment with the head but the way i modeled it might be a bit challenging. still keeping at it tho. 'preceate it man 🙏

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156795465216577566/1239770311373619250/20240514-0240-38.5777868.mp4?ex=66442194&is=6642d014&hm=51c82cc9b0f498121692ab0cd8f0a37134bcec16c27a9793fd924e2de877c735&

[quaint jasper]

I think if you move the two eyes closest to the nose together, you'll still achieve the side view effect while being able to see them from the front closer together

FYI just in case of the "push/pull" Blender function

What you've achieved is already pretty dope

[quaint jasper]

Just thought of another idea, but if you were to have only two eyes, very close to each other as default is, and weight paint them to a bone in the middle of the head, and to the use a rotation constraint on that bone to one of the real eye bones, you might achieve the effect of the eyes facing the players no matter which direction they are in front of you. Worth experimenting though!

[fair mason]

Yo

W idea

Thanks a hella ton. Made my night 🙏

[raven ridge]

Might be able to use a vertex displacement shader to adjust how sunken the side eyes are based on viewing direction

[runic mesa]

Hi @subtle axle
I'm very happy to hear that you've tried UModeler X for VRChat. Here are the basic tutorials : https://docs.umodeler.com/docs/basics-tutorial
You mean that the skinned mesh created with UModeler X doesn't appear in the VRChat runtime, right? We'll look into this issue soon.

[subtle axle]

Hi @runic mesa
excuse me for insisting, but i have already seen that tutorial and it doesn't guide me step by step in creating a proper model, for example an avatar for vrchat or a normal object like a phone, or anything like in this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdrxv-uGsjc&pp=ygUqdnJjaGF0IGhvdyB0byBtYWtlIGFuIGF2YXRhcnMgZnJvbSBibGVuZGVy, i give you this tutorial because it is the most comprehensive that there is on the web, the skinned mesh created in Umodeler X does NOT appear in VRChat, i can cofirm that, if it supposed to work in VRChat then i can confirm this bug, as i have tried multiple times making avatars and gadgets in umodeler in multiple instances, it never worked, please if is there any way to fix this just tell me, i'm very happy that you are here listening to the users of Umodeler and this is very nice of you. ❤️

[azure rain]

You cannot use any runtime c sharp scripts in VR chat so you would likely have to just convert the models into an fbx using the fbx exporter

[viscid scaffold]

anyone got any advice or links to good tutorials on how to model clothing? ive been trying to model a few pieces of clothing but didnt really get far

[wheat delta]

What approach have you tried so far? And what sort of clothing?

[viscid scaffold]

so far my method was to take the body mesh, size it up and adjust a little, it worked for a shirt (which i have yet to properly rig) but im trying to make a dress and idk how im gonna do that

[limber dirge]

You can "sew" the dress in Blender, by making 2 flat pieces, front and back and simulating them to sew into a finished garment. Or model the top parts by snapping them onto the body, like retopology and then extrude the bottom down.

This explains the sewing method https://youtu.be/5t2WQJMoQDM?feature=shared

[runic mesa]

Hi @subtle axle
We'll test UModeler X with VRChat to ensure that skinned meshes created with our tool can be exported correctly. We appreciate your patience and value your decision to use UModeler X for your projects. The video tutorial you shared is indeed helpful for understanding avatar creation for VRChat, and it has inspired us to produce more tutorial content specifically for VRChat users. We will keep you updated on new developments and tutorials.
Thank you for your feedback and support

[spring ruin]

So I'm working on a model and all of the rigging on it works but when Iine up the view point it doesn't actually line up with the character in game

Like I have it centered on the face but for some reason it's far off to the side

[gritty quarry]

:p joost

[quick thunder]

oliver tree headass

[lavish sedge]

Bowl cuts, a very specifically questionable fashion since the days of yore.

Also I take it that fabric hair is still beyond vrc capabilities ( or the pc / quest limits)

[twilit holly]

does anyone have any guides for learning 3d modeling? like topology and all that?

[keen sierra]

Id end up spamming the channel

Also depends heavily on what knowledge level you start off with

[runic mesa]

It will take a week or more to test the avatar in VRChat because my trust rank is 'Visitor'. I suspect the reason the avatar made or edited with UModeler X disappears is due to differences in the hierarchy of the body and bones compared to the original. There are 'Armature' objects containing bones and 'Body' objects that include the skinned mesh component. However, when you convert the Body mesh with UModeler X, the bones end up under the 'Body' instead of in the 'Armature' folder. Furthermore, the 'Armature' and 'Body' should share a common parent object, but the one converted with UModeler X does not. This is all speculative at this point. I plan to find a precise and straightforward method to upload avatars edited with UModeler X once my trust rank upgrades to 'New User'.

[subtle axle]

Another test that you can try is this, making a prop with umodeler and attaching it to the hand of a pre-made avatar, it gives the same result, the result is that the prop becomes totally invisible inside VRChat, for example if you attach a Gun made in Umodeler to the armature of the hand, and publish the avatar, you will see that the Gun will be invisible inside of VRChat, the positioning of the armature does not affect the rendering of the Umodeler model, if it did affect the model then you would see the avatar always T posing inside of VRChat, but instead, anything made with Umodeler becomes invisible.

To rank up and become new user it only takes a handful of hours in VRChat, using the microphone and moving around

although, when making VRChat worlds, Umodeler is perfect for worlds because it successfully renders each model with very accurate colliders.

[jagged moat]

what 8 hours of mirror dwelling a day does to a mf

[mint silo]

"when did you last go outside"

"when did you last see your friends"

"your family"

[mellow marlin]

Hello ! I recently got a tingly bone feeling to start learning how to make objects on blender from scratch... but its boring by myself and i know lots of others want to learn to. anyone wanna be buddies and chat and make fun art projects while learning blender?
i need more vrchat friends too anyway

[jagged moat]

The cloth simulation artefacts are just showing off now

[cobalt tiger]

Second head model of anime head. WIsh me luck!

[ruby tendon]

Is it possible to rig the model when it still have the mirror modifier on in blender?

[devout orchid]

i dont think so, but rigging itself can be done with x mirror enabled (not modifier but the icon in the right top corner)

[barren meadow]

For testing purposes, you can rig the existing side of the model and it'll deform the mirrored side. But you shouldn't rely on that for too long.

[subtle axle]

idk what you are trying to do but it's very cool

[subtle axle]

does the FBX exporter work with umodler models?

[azure rain]

I personally haven't tried it hopefully it works

[sour ether]

recently bought a booth model but it doesnt come with a blender file, so importing the fbx breaks the normals like this, is there a way to fix something like this?

[sour ether]

turns out it wasnt because of fbx import, its mostly because of setting blendshapes to default apparently

[snow estuary]

Anyone teach me how to model hair

Please

[trail patio]

https://youtu.be/DPpOVxdeZPE?si=-diAOsGA-CpzJBLw

[runic mesa]

Hello
I’m thrilled to announce that a new UModeler X blog post has been published! This post covers the UModeler X Game Jam in collaboration with Future Inspire Academy, focusing on creating 3D games using Unity. It highlights exciting new features like the Weight Mirror Tool, improved Standard Brush Tool, and Auto Generate Mesh Collider. UModeler and UModeler X continue to be recognized as valuable assets for VRChat content creation. Additionally, the game “Little Kitty Big City,” developed with UModeler, is now available on Steam, Xbox, and Nintendo Switch, receiving positive feedback.
For more details, visit https://docs.umodeler.com/blog/May-26th-2024-blog

[pseudo knoll]

ᵗʰᶦˢ ˢᵒᵘⁿᵈˢ ˡᶦᵏᵉ ᵇˡᵉⁿᵈᵉʳ ʷᶦᵗʰ ᵉˣᵗʳᵃ ˢᵗᵉᵖˢ

[lean zephyr]

125$...

ouch

[pseudo knoll]

i don't think mr AI generated(maybe?) PFP knows that VRChat is full of small time hobbyists and not linkedin entrepreneurs

[lean zephyr]

lmaooo yeah

never really understood paying for 3d modelling software unless you're like a huge company like pixar or disney

[pseudo knoll]

😬

[lean zephyr]

realistically, blender can do everything those apps can do, at least for hobbyists

[pseudo knoll]

i feel like blender's limitation is always going to be enterprise level collaboration, which is what most other paid 3d programs are for, only other one I think is an appropriate paid alternative is zBrush for sculpting

[lean zephyr]

yeah

i can also kind of get behind substance painter (but it's a monthly cost for one application)

[pseudo knoll]

the typical VRChat "suite" is going to be zBrush, Blender, Substance Painter, and Unity

[pseudo knoll]

i can get behind legitimately and legally acquired substance painter 🥲

[lean zephyr]

i texture in blender because i do not have the disposable income for that LOL

i'm already broke paying an existing creative cloud subscription 😔

[pseudo knoll]

i can totally get behind a software that was great, but was bought out by the subscription shark adobe corpo giant

/s (but it still is great)

[lean zephyr]

we neeeeeed to bring back perpetual licenses
like i don't even care if it's a "rolling" perpetual license where i have to buy the next MAJOR release

like i'd be fine using old versions of software for a one time cost

but i'll be fucking damned if adobe is taking any more money outta my pocket every month

"special" sites for getting legit copies of sp tho :)

[pseudo knoll]

last thing, adobe's products cost what they do because the audience is not individuals usually but small studios and business, so, if you're not the target audience, don't pay the price, its not really for you (but they wouldn't mind you paying anyways but don't fall in)

[runic mesa]

I love your feedback. I've purchased an Oculus Quest 3 to play VRChat! I'll try it this weekend.

[runic mesa]

X is free

[crude heron]

So bought an avatar and her blendshapes are all in Japanese
Would there be any potential issues if I translated all the blendshapes into English?

[quaint jasper]

Shouldn't be! The Cats blender addon should be able to do it for you automatically too!

[azure rain]

I guess that would depend if there's any animations tied to the blend shapes outside of the Avatar descriptor as far as if they would get confused from the name change?

[crude heron]

I tried using Cats before and I feel like it did something extremely wrong

i haven't (re)started the blender project yet so i don't have pics but

[crude heron]

I have i think it's called facial gestures that helps me create my own expressions and such so i can make those from scratch, I think

oh i think i remember what happened i think

my entire blender project got backburned because i moved to a new computer
and i couldn't figure out what version of blender i needed to make cats work

[azure rain]

https://github.com/unofficalcats/Cats-Blender-Plugin-Unofficial-?tab=readme-ov-file

the main developer of cats hasn't worked on the project in ages so here's a fork that works with more recent versions of blender

[crude heron]

ahh that's why it's unofficial

[azure rain]

like one of the contributors to the cats split off their own contributions into a new add-on because there was no new cats versions

[crude heron]

is that what this is?

[azure rain]

https://github.com/feilen/tuxedo-blender-plugin

[crude heron]

I also want to work on fitting outfits to my avatar since she hasn't seen anything new in years so

[azure rain]

tuxedo is only the portions of cats worked on by
feilen

[crude heron]

so should i have tuxedo installed in tandem with unofficial cats?

[azure rain]

probably?

[crude heron]

man

i feel like

this is a lot lol

i used to know only enough to fit an outfit on an avatar

and i forgot it all

[spiral sigil]

A 3d modelling section, my time to shine

[solar fossil]

Huh, first time I see someone posting SketchUp models here

[subtle axle]

i'm glad you appreciate, if you need any more help do not hesitate to ask, i always respond^^

[subtle axle]

that's the old Umodeler, the new one called Umodeler X is free

[worthy sorrel]

Does anyone have an effective way to reshape clothes from one base to another?

I feel like im able to get a pretty good result with what ive been doing but it feels pretty hacky and definitely doesnt get as good of a result as the original cloth creator’s adaptations, so im wondering if im missing something..

[crude heron]

i've just been using the sculpt tools to shape the clothes around with

lot of trial and error lol

does anyone have a blender tutorial they personally recommend? I know only bits and pieces, enough to waggle my way around very specific avatar things but I'd like to know more about just the whole thing in general

like bones, and weightpaint, and all the things in that hiearchy tree in the upper right, and the stuff in the bottom right

[worthy sorrel]

thats what im doing, but like i said, it feels really hacky and doesnt ever get the quality that the original creators get to. making new blendshapes for other bases also is incredibly difficult without it looking weird most the time

like i can get it to look good, but sometimes there are some things that i cant avoid such as texture warping

[waxen ivy]

What have you tried? Basic clothes, using shrinkwrap modifier helps a lot, but it often doesnt work for me if the clothing is layered, scultping is prob the most common way, I like to warp transform and do it by hand

[worthy sorrel]

liberal use of proportional edit and sculpt mode (primarily add/subtract, smooth and flatten) has been the best for me. It really depends on what a mesh is supposed to look like ya know?
i generally never use shrinkwrap bc it gives me weird results and only works on stuff thats supposed to be skintight (or close).
i do use data transfers and surface deforms to help with weight painting and blendshape creation, though sometimes surface deform is an unviable option, especially dealing with something like a chest area

[waxen ivy]

I often had the same issues with shrinkwrap modifier, but applying vertex groups allows you to isolate the less or more complicated areas and give you better control for quicker shaping if that makes sense

[uncut scarab]

does anyone have Maya that would be willing to open a .mb file and export it as an fbx for me so i can bring it to blender? there is NO mb importer or converter.

[jovial seal]

idk how this looks and what i hould change design wise (spear head that turns into knife thingy)

also i there any good tutorial on how to end cap cylinders i uually jusst subdivide cubes to get nice looking topology atm

would like a real solution tho

[quaint jasper]

That's the basis of low poly subdiv modelling, it's not an incorrect way to do it, I do it too

[jovial seal]

xD

just figured i thought i had to have an odd amount of verts in a circle then use J to join them to create the faces but like that always seems to leave trys

but so does even

[jovial seal]

if i grab texturess from google imagess and use them as masks for my texture brushes does that mean i cant sell the asset?

[limpid grove]

was told to shove my boy here. anywho, wip impsona model

[pure dagger]

The front door is off to the left

[quaint jasper]

Neat! Reminds me of Moopleaf's OC!

[regal canopy]

Hello everyone! 🙂 Here's my latest model, a 1950s truck that has seen better days. Loosely based on the 1956 Ford F100. Not sure if I will use it in a project or not.

[white gazelle]

anyone know how to delete an edge in blender x_X Ive looked all over, i just want to remove this diagonal edge xD'. Ive tried merge everything, ive tried deleting, hitting X, nothing.

[stone pine]

select the edge, press x, then only edges and faces should do it

[jagged moat]

There has to be at least 2 edges connecting, you can't dissolve that one if there is only 1 other

could be causing that

[heady crater]

I have discovered Re-Routes and Node groups, Now I have very organized materials in blender with satisfying noodle traces

[dull willow]

facepalm moment

[winged kiln]

For those of you who make avatars from scratch, can you please tell me which more recent blender version + cats plug in works the best? I'm new to it

[static vapor]

oh i see whats wrong

the baking caused the wheels to be baked

[dull willow]

yes, you want to bake these separately

[solar fossil]

The classic forgot to explode the model before baking

[proven plinth]

Modeling one of my monster fellas! Just wanted to post a WIP of the initial block-out :] Next post I make on it, it'll be completed

[quaint jasper]

Yeah the data transfer modifier can do that, if you've not figured it out already!

Bit of an old blender screenshot, but it's the exact same thing

[static vapor]

@quaint jasper are you doing okay?

[quaint jasper]

As good as I can be! Thank you for asking 🫡

[vast blaze]

idk if this is the right channel or not but i was wondering if anyone could help me figure out how on earth i could make the hands of my oc im tryna model (pics of my progress and full ref) any sort if help would be appreciated.

[vast blaze]

Upd: i did hands but im not that happy, if anyone is able to give any form of help it would be greatly appreciated

[stone pine]

I recommend Rainhet's tutorials if you want to learn anything modeling related

[vast blaze]

Thank you ill make sure to check that soon

[burnt glacier]

im not sure how to describe it well enough for google to help me so is there a way i can straighten out my meshes lines? i did a quick decimate and now ive got this going on in some areas

[empty fox]

Firstly, why do you want them straight?
Unity converts your quads to triangles anyway, all game engines do.

But if it is something you really want to do then you can do "tris to quads" (just search for it with f3), but whenever I have done that it has always messed up the UV map so I don't really recommend it.
The other, way more manual, approach is to click the stray lines, click delete and "dissolve edges", it won't make them straight, but it will remove the triangles.

[burnt glacier]

i dont have a proper UV setup yet so ill try out the tris to quads thing first thnxies

[empty fox]

I'd personally just go back to before the decimation and use dissolve edges on loops.

Or just unsubdivide

Decimation to me is just something you use when you don't intend to touch the mesh again.

[barren meadow]

While it does convert quads to tris, good topological flow is still important.

You can be lazy and try using the sculpt tool for relaxing topo.

[waxen ivy]

Does anyone have experience with making hair, mine's flipping on itself.

[stone pine]

Yeah that happens. You just have to rotate it back to where you want it

[compact compass]

anyone got a tip on modeling hands?

i think hands are one of the main reasons i barely make avatars

[compact compass]

nvm i'm giving him puppet hands

[wheat pendant]

How do you guys draw textures in Blender? Any tips?
I currently use a bunch of 8k textures for face/body/clothes etc. I realize that this hit performance, but. How do I make quality texture and also have good performance in Blender? Because currently it's unusable

Maybe 8k textures is an overkill if you think about it...

[waxen ivy]

Doesn’t work, it’s not rotatable on any axis, and manually moving the path is long and time consuming, I don’t think this is the answer

[spiral sigil]

you can tilt with Ctrl + T

[azure rain]

yeah 8K is complete Overkill

make sure your UV unwraps aren't wasting lots of space

[wheat pendant]

The idea is, that I make hi-q textures and then I'll pack them all into atlas. I use unwrapping and packing, so space is filled as much as possible. But yeah...

[azure rain]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/StandardShaderMaterialParameterDetail.html

if you have any repetitious fabric detail you can put that on a detailed map instead of the main texture

[waxen ivy]

That was it, thanks

[quaint jasper]

https://github.com/BenjaminSauder/EdgeFlow/releases/tag/0.8
This is one of my favorite addon!

You can also always go back from a step like that by doing Tris to Quads or Triangulate the other way, and adjusting the settings

[burnt glacier]

is there a way i can decimate quickly/efficiently without using the decimation modifier?

[devout orchid]

not that quick, but dissolve edge loops

[viscid birch]

There's also Mesh → Clean Up → Decimate Geometry. Which is a little easier for decimating part of a model compared to making a vertex group and adding to the modifier.

[burnt glacier]

😔 guess ill just stick to yucky UV's

[chrome scaffold]

Is there a way to get alt-z/x-ray to work in 4.1 while I'm weight painting? I could do that in 2.79 (left), but I for some reason can't do that in 4.1 (right).

[hushed leaf]

you can set the transparency in the view options, that might do the trick

[chrome scaffold]

How would I do that?

[hushed leaf]

Play with the view options at the upper right, I'm not sure which without looking at it

[chrome scaffold]

You mean upper left? The view tab is on the upper left. (I just got off the computer so I can’t check 100% rn)

[hushed leaf]

no, upper right, the little icons where you can change which view mode you're in, there are some dropdowns there with view options

the upper-right-most icons in the right-side image you shared

[chrome scaffold]

I'm playing around with the settings on the upper right, but nothing really fits that x-ray thing I'm looking for sadly.

[hushed leaf]

aww, I was hoping

[exotic obsidian]

I'm planning on making my Animal Crossing character into a VRChat avatar
(I didn't model it, I just re-assembled assets I ripped from New Horizons)

[devout orchid]

quite a confession, nintendo would love it 🇫

[faint vapor]

All my homies hate the Nintendo legal team

[swift jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[static vapor]

Careful nintendo legal team no joke

[swift jolt]

If its a public avatar yea. If he uploads it as private its probably fine even if the funny nintendo hitmen decide to go after vrchat

[exotic obsidian]

Yeah it's just for me since it's my player character

[static vapor]

Private then no one cares.

[static vapor]

People really be firing those dmca when it's public.

[pallid cradle]

hmm

[haughty cedar]

jolt my beloved

[obtuse meteor]

Is this a nearf gun XD

[pallid cradle]

yes!

[hushed leaf]

you going to make it shoot fireworks? 🙂

[steady zealot]

When baking high to low, is it standard practice explode the model, bake normals, and other stuff, and then re-assemble and bake the AO maps after the fact? Or do people usually bake AO in the disassembled stage

[ocean salmon]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kUPVgbu1Xbw

[sinful plinth]

Image 1 is in Blender's Layout workspace, image 2 is in the Sculpting workspace. What's the autosmooth modifier? @hushed leaf @onyx berry

I just realized the triangle count is also too high. I think I'll work on that last.

[stone pine]

Did you right click then hit shade smooth in the layout tab?

[sinful plinth]

Completely new to Blender, sorry. Where would that be?

[stone pine]

right click

[sinful plinth]

Thank you. That fixed it.

[stone pine]

yw

[hushed leaf]

that's the thing I figured was missing 🙂

[sinful plinth]

Thank you as well.

[sinful plinth]

So this Boba Fett model shares similar proportions to Boba Fett's model from Battlefront 2, and Battlefront uses FBX bones like VRC. So could I get the Battlefront 2 rigging, slap it into the Blender file, and it'd all be set up for VRC? Or will it more complicated than that?

On second thought, I don't think these bones are usable. I have no idea what I am looking at.

[hushed leaf]

oh, we're talking game rips? doesn't surprise me at all these are weird and you'll have to do significant reworking of the armature for VR

[sinful plinth]

Yeah. The model itself isn't from Battlefront, but unfortunately it sharing the same proportions as Battlefront's Boba Fett didn't really help as much as I hoped when getting the ripped rigging from BF2.

[devout orchid]

just use mixamo

[acoustic halo]

not sure if theres a better place to ask this, but is there any way to simultaneously use a texture brush and a corresponding normal map brush?

[keen sierra]

In substance painter, you could use color and height at the same time, granted the brush has both and the layer has both channels enabled. You didnt spedify what program you use, so this is kinda hard to answer

[acoustic halo]

the only program I use currently is gimp, though I'm interested in any programs that have that sort of capability

I saw that Krita has a 'tangent normal brush engine', but I figured if anything had what I'm looking for it would likely be substance

[chrome scaffold]

Does anybody know how to transfer a UV's scale and transformation by chance? I had to modify the mesh a bit and it messed up the UV, so I'm trying to see if I can match up the new UV map to the old one without having to do it manually. I don't know if I worded this right, but hopefully you guys understand regardless.

[chrome scaffold]

Found a workaround. All is good!

[flint patrol]

brother bob

[river hound]

Howdy folks! 👋🏻

I've been working on a companion mod of my own for FNV with western themes and a pretty extensive questline. I've made quiet a lot of progress but I'm starting to realize a lot of what I wanna do might be beyond my current skillset and/or might be too large of a workload for myself alone. I am looking to focus more on the story elements of the mod and hopefully collaborate with a few people on the more technical aspects of the mod. If you or anyone you know might be interested in collaborating on this project with me please reach out to me!

Follow up with me via DM if you're interested. It's quiet a large project considering it's my first real attempt at a big mod.

I'm looking for some people who might be able to help me with the following mod elements:

- Voice acting

• Custom armors/outfit meshes

• Custom armor/outfit textures

• Custom armor/outfit world models with collision

• Custom weapons (potentially with custom animations)

• Custom weapon meshes

• Custom weapon textures

• Custom weapon world models with collision

If you're interested in learning more feel free to reach out via DM! 👍🏻

[flint patrol]

My oc

[gaunt crown]

Idk how to turn this into an avatar.

[sinful plinth]

I tried using Mixamo to rig this, but I think the cape caused a little confusion. The left side of Boba's ribcage is stretching itself to follow the arm. Any easy way to fix this, or would I have to re-rig this without the cape? (this model was also originally in an A pose. I exported it as a T pose in Mixamo, if that is also causing the issue.)

[valid needle]

I only use mixamo for rough rigging and only on simple body bases then weightpaint to fix every issue mixamo causes

[ivory flume]

how would i add an object to a preset vertex group for weight painting? i brought in a custom asset for a friends commando armour (the blue shoulder piece in the second image), and i want to weight paint to the left shoulder, however i dont know how to so

[sinful plinth]

I also tried using actorcore, but it keeps asking me to sign in in order to export it, only to not let me sign in afterwards.

[sinful plinth]

I exported it as both a T pose and the original A pose the model was in, just incase changing the pose caused any issues. Should I use the A Pose file instead and re-weightpaint the model to the rigging?

[hushed leaf]

Assuming your new object is a separate mesh object and you've added the armature modifier, in object mode: click armature. ctrl+click new mesh object. go to weight paint mode. select appropriate bone. paint. Vertex groups will be added when you start painting

[hushed leaf]

Hmm is there a way in Blender to select which vertices are affected by a shapekey?

ah that seems to be tricky, have to do a script

[ivory flume]

assuming i did it right, this is what it looks like now

[hushed leaf]

red = 100% weighted to that bone

ah but your armature modifier is wrong - you need to specify which armature in the object slot

[ivory flume]

would i need to repaint it?

[hushed leaf]

no, weight paint is contained in vertex groups which match bones based on their name, you can swap armatures all you want

[ivory flume]

👌 sounds good. will ask again if anything fucks up. appreciate the help

[hushed leaf]

you're welcome!

[sour ether]

sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this, but i have a very specific and obscure question with no answers so far
how do i make it so that the vertex normals of a mesh are set to a specific blendshape's?
a booth model i bought have socks that are by default shrunk to minimum to hide it inside the model's skin, however as a result the vertex normals are completely broken when the blendshape is used (left image is one with the blendshapes being used and how it looks like right now, right image is one with the blendshapes set to default, and how it should look like)
i've tried using data transfer and it does not work, one time it seems like i got it working but it corrupted the basis instead, other times i managed to get it working, i exported, saved on blender and loaded the same blend file and it reverted back to being broken on export

also i'm using blendshape normals set to none in unity, but changing it to legacy blendshapes does nothing, and changing it to calculate gives a similarly bad result regardless

[sudden jackal]

heyp o meed help

so im trying to sttach this other models arm to a diffrent model

i managed to parent them but each time i go to delete the red of the other model it highlightd the stuff i wanna keep

example

[swift jolt]

got eevee renders in blender look soo nice... work in progress map im not going to be able to get this nice looking ingame

[white vault]

Amazing

[static vapor]

Oh...

[pure dagger]

Never put this amount of face bones on your rig guys, this is for animation rigs. but i added it just so you can actually make out that people are talking/looking around

[static vapor]

So it's a armature based avatar

[pure dagger]

Yea, it was made for spooktality because its a "skeleton"

[static vapor]

I'll prefer if vrchat added the blue man as a fallback

[pure dagger]

wat blue man

[static vapor]

It's old vrchat loading avatar.

Aka the blue man.

[pure dagger]

ohh

i know what your talkin about

[static vapor]

Don't mistake the triangle loading

[pure dagger]

@glad ember whatcha think? boney enough?

[glad ember]

idk what any of that is but neat 😄

[pure dagger]

its just a standard 3d rig

its what makes a model move

[glad ember]

oic

[pure dagger]

yall fuck with the glasses?

[ocean salmon]

The Neverhood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ER-C6HTWkY&t=65s

[steel fable]

Making a funny man

[swift jolt]

Looks wonderfull yet again

[ocean salmon]

Added a lot of new things and have already started creating the castle

[swift jolt]

[glossy grotto]

Making the Bill Graham Excision stage with 0 experience in blender

I just need the stage in total, connecting the 3rd/2nd floor together with wedge going down, hangover below the 2nd floor

[pallid bobcat]

Hello, I'm running in to the issue that my texel density is too small due to my UV islands being smoll, do I have to unwrap the whole mesh on one UV map or can I use multiple UV maps to make bigger islands?

[azure rain]

modifying your UV unwrap sounds a lot less complicated than trying to involve a Shader using multiple UVs

[long shore]

Is there anyone here interested in a commision?

[compact glen]

Can you check your dm

I can help you with your commission

[valid needle]

ew

[glossy grotto]

scratch this i just found a stage on sketchup lmao

[lofty river]

How would I fix the faces to actually work as I want them to? I've tried all the settings and they're still broken or act weird

[quick thunder]

xd

[lofty river]

Very funny indeed

[abstract heart]

Somehow turned on this wireframing look on my mesh. How to turn it off?

[solemn abyss]

so i have no experience with blender and im trying to setup this book to have custom pages

firstly, im having issues with the textures

i was able to get the cover to work but i cant get the pages to work

[hushed leaf]

is this some sort of script?

[solemn abyss]

what is that

i found the book in gumroad

[hushed leaf]

what printed that message on the right?

[solemn abyss]

it came with the book

its just a text document

[hushed leaf]

ohh

[solemn abyss]

i think i got the page textures

[hushed leaf]

ok I'm not sure what you're asking then

[solemn abyss]

um in this case now i need help with animation

the book came with an animation

but how do i play it

[hushed leaf]

you might start with the basics of working with animation in blender, something like this (first link I found via google): https://renderguide.com/how-to-animate-in-blender-beginner-tutorial/

[uncut herald]

@solemn abyss if you plan on transferring this to unity for an avatar, which I assume you do, blender animations will be useless. At least I'm fairly certain this animation will be

[solemn abyss]

oh

so how would the animation work

the one in blender is the pages of the book flipping around

i was just thinking of just transferring the book into a fbx file and putting it into blender without doing anything

[uncut herald]

Idk. Idk what exactly you want to do. Yes you can export blender animations to unity, but the way the image material is setup in blender is going to be different from the way you would need to set it up in Unity to change pages.

Wait are you trying to change the image of what it looks like or actually make the pages flip? Are they separated where you can do that?

The mesh?

[solemn abyss]

uh they should be seperated

https://x.com/MaxEdge420/status/1546192513165295616?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1546192513165295616|twgr^ca347ba38d6aaa78560e2c174a5c6c9d690beaef|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.iframe.ly%2Fapi%2Fiframe%3Furl%3Dhttps3A2F2Ftwitter.com2FMaxEdge4202Fstatus2F1546192513165295616key%3D31708e31359468f73bc5b03e9dcab7dav%3D1app%3D1

Max Edge (@MaxEdge420) on X

Geometry node book rig in Blender. I am officially the globglogabgalab.
Get: https://t.co/oH5momfEin
#b3d #Blender3d #blender

Twitter · Jul 10, 2022, 5:59 PM

this is a video of the book working

im trying to get it just like the video

of course with different images

[uncut herald]

Oh it's using geometry nodes. Yeah I got barely any idea how to use them, much less make it into and animation and then transfer it to unity

It may not be possible considering it's not bone movement but instead mesh movement, but I dont think you'd be able to make a blendshape out of it either

[solemn abyss]

its okay imma just use a different book object in unity

thanks though

[hushed leaf]

that's a really impressive animation. Definitely not going to be easy to do in Unity 🙂

[solemn abyss]

yea lol

[solemn abyss]

ok so im following this tutorial of how to make a book from scratch

but i think i messed up something in the book cover rotation

idk how to fix it

[hushed leaf]

@solemn abyss I have no idea what you're trying to do or what you've done, so really have nothing to say here, sorry

[solemn abyss]

im trying to make it close like a normal book but the opposite cover keeps flipping

[hushed leaf]

but if your intent is to bring this to unity, you'll likely want to rig the thing and animate bone rotations, not mesh objects themselves

[uncut herald]

Lmao

[sour lion]

I don't understand why the weights at 0 are still affecting the mesh

[hushed leaf]

child bone weights non-zero?

also are you sure it's actually zero? You often can't tell just by the color

[sour lion]

Is there another way to check?

[hushed leaf]

you can see it in the info for a vertex in edit mode, or sample it with the sample tool

I mean, you can just delete the vertex from the vertex group too, that'll make sure it's not affected at all

[sour lion]

The weight is around 0.026 in that area

[hushed leaf]

then it'll move with the bone

'cause that's definitely not zero 🙂

[sour lion]

I painted it to 0 and checked but it seems to have not changed? I also checked the child bones

[cursive summit]

Idk where to post this, but basically I imported this model and for some reason all of the props are greyed out like they're hidden but they aren't there, how do I actually show the mesh?

they show up in the render, but not in edit mode

nvm, figured it out

[jovial seal]

when making Eye lid blendshapes for winking and expressions, how do you make it so that when they are combined it dosnt turn into an eldritch abomination?

is there a ''simple solution'' or do i have to manually animate all the expressions overriding eachother and what they do

[devout orchid]

tracking control

or do manual blinking layer

i personally use separate blendshapes for eyes and mouth and combine whatever fits/disable mouth part for lipsync etc.

[gritty junco]

how’d you figure this out?

[cursive summit]

In blender there is a "hide in viewport" option next to the eye, but its not on by default, so you have to add the option, unhide it, then it'll be there

[gritty junco]

thank you!

[steel sparrow]

what should the finger bones be named?

[jovial seal]

use rigify!

[steel sparrow]

no.

[jovial seal]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hushed leaf]

the one I have in Unity right here has: f_index.01.L and f_index.01.R

increase number going down to the finger tip

extrapolate from there. It doesn't really matter, but if you have the .L and .R then symmetry stuff works properly in Blender without fighting it.

[alpine mica]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/lG15wk

[jovial seal]

i am making yet another outfit

[atomic flare]

How would I scale the breast size in blender. I know how to do it in unity but I need to know how to do it in blender so I can sculpt the clothes on properly

[cold plaza]

Is it safe to scale something to 0, with a blend shape?
As a way to hide it.

I always see people scale objects so they go inside the body where they're still visible.
Been wondering why they're not scaling to 0?

[hushed leaf]

Yes, generally. if it's got physbones you'll want to also disable those.
It really only works if the thing you're scaling has its own bone.

[cold plaza]

You can use pose mode in blender to scale bones the same way you do in unity.
Then you click the armature modifier and apply pose as blend shape.
You might also want to apply the changes to the bones, which is something like apply pose as rest position.

[cold plaza]

You mean it needs to be rigged to have blend shapes right?

[hushed leaf]

no, blend shapes have nothing to do with rigging

[cold plaza]

I thought only skinned meshes could have blend shapes

[hushed leaf]

those are purely mesh deforms

oh - in Unity yes

but it could just all be attached to a single bone

[cold plaza]

Ah, ye

[ruby tendon]

in blender when i go to texture paint the whole seems suddenly is empty, any ideas?

[shrewd nest]

How do i reduce polys? I want under 5K and all my clothes and person are individual items

[azure rain]

dissolving Edge Loops is a pretty decent method that doesn't completely destroy your topology

and I might suggest starting with your hair as that has a lot of triangles and probably deleting the body that are covered by your clothing @shrewd nest

[shrewd nest]

Mkie I'll do that when I get home

[atomic flare]

Awesome!! Ty!!!

Is there a way to get my model back into the normal pose without the reset position button?

[hushed leaf]

manually 😦

[atomic flare]

Man that sucks

Luckily I got a backup

[hushed leaf]

always make backups!

[shrewd nest]

;-; i didnt make a backup

[hushed leaf]

my deepest sympathies - I've been there 😦

[tired cedar]

So yeah @supple fable, basically, holes and patterns in the simulation like this is what I'm trying to talk about.

Because those look complicated to get right in a simulation.

In fact, splatter simulations like this is what I'm looking forward to learning how to make. In fact, how do people even make bursts of fluids in Blender anyway?

[supple fable]

You can play with the viscosity of your fluid to give someting very liquid like water or more density like honey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPSjXpGrfto

[supple fable]

https://youtu.be/G38JBHEy0jg?si=VMwzGnHnY4zkrlfB

but again has i say do step by step made small test to practice before include a complex fluid simulation in a project

[tired cedar]

Fair enough.

[jovial seal]

what could i do to improve this model?

[golden rover]

Looks like it's a model of some clothes? Improvement is kinda vague, in what way do you want to improve?

[subtle axle]

what does that do?

[jovial seal]

generally just techniques or modelling aspects i can use to make my models look better.

[jovial seal]

auto generate humanoid rigs with names and other stuff

[haughty violet]

Made this model, who wants to give me a hand and upload this to vrchat cus i dont have a pc

[onyx sail]

i can

[steel stirrup]

when i turn my alpha down this happens

help 🪦

nvm this thing has 10 material slots

[pseudo knoll]

this topology is optimized but the process it took to make it has given me nightmares

[pure dagger]

Why is it spiraled? You could get the same look with just one loop at the bottom then one loop at the top

[pseudo knoll]

i'm matching an artstyle, it would be a normal traffic cone otherwise

[pure dagger]

wdym? like texture wise?

[pseudo knoll]

oh, I'm wanting the world-filesize to be small by using and abusing vertex colors

the traffic cone I'm referencing from is a spiral rather than a stripe

[pure dagger]

Ah, im unsure about sizing when it come sto vertex vs regular textures

[pseudo knoll]

vertex colors are superior in almost every way

except for the fact that if you want higher fidelity visual detail vertex colors are the worst option

and the cost is exponential to the amount of verticies since its extra metadata per vertex

[pseudo knoll]

you can also mix the two, at least using poiyomi, not sure about quest

[azure rain]

all of the quest shaders multiply vertex color on top of textures

[pseudo knoll]

ah

[glass axle]

these can be reduced further

[heavy sonnet]

You could probably use a single 1x2 pixel texture instead with interpolation disabled if you messed with the uvs. If you wanted to reduce the poly count

[south saddle]

doing that can make it better for flat toon and sharp lines and the only thing that give it depth is lighting so for the full texture for that map could be a 32x32 sheet of just base Colours. for the world and that's it.

[lament umbra]

been trying to think on what should be the way to go about this cardigan i am making. i would like to have the ability to have it in 3 different states (closed, semi buttoned, and fully opened). my thought would be that i probably just have to go about giving it it's own rig? i know blendshapes was a possible option but my thought was that it would behave weirdly in states where the faces are no longer over the faces they were original weighted to (which would cause the weird looking behaviour/movement?). Im just curious if you guys have any suggestions/sources to help cause i havent been able to find anything

-# btw theres more geometry to the cardigan (just has a multires modifier on currently)

[fickle lion]

I hate rigging, got it to work but it was sooo teddius

[opaque trellis]

Hey everyone. Sorry for the question, but which setting should i choose to calculate normals for blendshapes but still take in account the imported ones ? I'm using custom normals in blender but I'm having insue to have them behave with blendshapes in unity

here are the custom normals that i wanna keep ( note the fur on side of the head and the tail )

Here is when i use a blendshape

if I put blendshape normals on "import" chest is fluffed

[desert flame]

So I tried to use Pumpkin Tools to copy the traits from an Karin avatar (the original model) to a new FBX I just imported with an additional outfit. All the Physbone colliders are wacked, but the transform numbers are accurate...
Unity 2022, VRChat beta SDK (before new constraints) and Pumpkin Tools 1.4.5

[tough plover]

@opaque trellis you should enable Legacy Blendshape Normals, and use Hai's "Recalculate Normals" component. it is the best, no compromise solution.

https://docs.hai-vr.dev/docs/products/prefabulous/universal/recalculate-normals

[hushed leaf]

I noticed using Import worked in Unity 2019 and I think 2022.3.6 but doesn't in 2022.3.22

[hushed leaf]

ooh this is interesting

[opaque trellis]

Thanks a lot ! I'll try ♥

[simple flame]

family guy death pose

i put a hold on modeling for a bit and decided to kick this up

[spiral sigil]

im very proud of this one

[valid needle]

are...are you showing off one of the older angel dust models that have been on vrchat for years like you made it ?

[steady zealot]

Made some horns

[low silo]

Tanjiro's Katana!

[gray drum]

does anyone know some updated videos for tutorials on how to make vrchat avatars? i tried some and tbh i cant get a handle on it

[crisp axle]

imma kill these hands

[crisp axle]

i could send you one that got me started and into it
its a playlist tho

[gray drum]

please? Thank you

[crisp axle]

I sent you a thing in dms
most likely went into spam though knowin discord so

[alpine remnant]

LA LA LA LA LAAAAAA

(he's so squishy!! you did an amazin job!!)

[north lantern]

ty :>

[fleet parrot]

In unity, is there a way to go back to previous saves? I just royally screwed up anf deleted everything and in perfect timing it saved just then and there

[empty fox]

Unity doesn't really have saving, duplicating your scene file is the closest to saves you'll get.

Assets at the bottom are just gone if they are deleted.
Stuff in the hierarchy/scene are somewhat savable as you can undo most things.

[north lantern]

Not natively. I recommend using something like Github for version control.

[devout orchid]

theres a way to load a scene after a crash but overall no, if you screwed yourself its on you, backups/version control.

[devout scroll]

unity doesn't back scenes up, no

but if you prefab things you can save them to assets separately from scenes

[royal flower]

it's billy!!!!!!!!!

[timber tide]

this small part of the sweater isnt moving with the armature like the rest of it is, i tried redoing the weightpant and data transfer thing with all the other options but still didnt work, what do i do?

[steady zealot]

Would you believe me if I told you this was one material?

We love trimsheets in this house

[steady zealot]

also:

when the tiled texture wraps perfectly

https://tenor.com/view/meme-pacha-just-right-emperors-new-groove-gif-5459139

[pure dagger]

(sorry for watermark) Anyone got any doodles they want added to my home world im making

[waxen ivy]

Im working on an avatar world, I created a simple wall prefab to snap together but in order to bake the light properly In unity, I think I need to have face orientation on all sides. Firstly, is there a light setting in unity for this? I was thinking it would be less of a performance issue and less complexity if I simply made planes to snap together for the walls of my world, but as you can see in the pic, the light obviously goes through the walls if it only has one face orientation. My question is do I go back into blender/solidify, do I just use poiyomi and turn off culling in my bake, do I do something else, or did I unknowingly sabotage myself and miss something not creating my room right and I should redo/start from scratch? Simultaneously, using poiyomi with culling off, there's this light bleeding through despite the fact that there actually isnt a gap between the floor and the wall. Any help from people who have experience in this field would be greatly appreciated.

[waxen ivy]

Go into edit mode > Vertice Select > Select all those stranded vertices that wont move and apply a weight to them to whatever it is, im assuming the shoulder from the picture.

[waxen ivy]

Diff ways you can mess with it, just did it with a bean bag

[timber tide]

Ty! I’m out eating rn but will def try

[waxen ivy]

Meanwhile if any world creators have any experience with lighting in unity, id love to hear from you. I really need to learn how to properly create prefabbed drag and drop pieces for floors and walls, if anyone would be willing please take a look above, hopefully I can find a solution to save myself from recreating my world pieces again.

[devout orchid]

@waxen ivy backface culling doesnt affect baking, only realtime. you probly just forgor to mark stuff as static.

[azure rain]

yeah trim sheets are very cool

[waxen ivy]

What do you mean it doesnt effect baking? The light is going through the mesh you can see it in the picture

[waxen ivy]

... ???

[devout orchid]

@waxen ivy its not baked on the picture

thats realtime

first one at least

[waxen ivy]

So you saying face orientation doesnt matter, and the current lighting isnt properly represented? When I go to bake it, it will treat that back face as if it's there?

[devout orchid]

yes, when baking lightmaps, unity ignores backface culling

having onesided meshes is perfectly fine

[waxen ivy]

Im doing a test now to see if it fixes everthing and to check if theres a bleeding effect

[heavy sky]

how did ya'll do that?

[waxen ivy]

@heavy sky Do what @timber tide Did it work? @devout orchid Tried testing it out, been debugging, everything is baking white, thought it was reflection probes removed them, thought it was overlapping UVs but they appear to be fine, minus one asset, but in general everything looks good. Unity is weird sometimes.

[timber tide]

it kinda was, but the gif was a little fast and kinda confusing to follow since i just started blender a few days ago, but i lookd at another post on reddit that said to jus remove the blending entirely from the diff sections and that worked, but im trying w the other arm and the very end of the sleeve is stuck in place, is this weight painting or bones issue?

[devout orchid]

@waxen ivy may be the shader, never messed much with poi world but normal poi defaults to lit ie unshaded?

[waxen ivy]

Im using standard on most of the materials

[waxen ivy]

Diff games have different armatures, importing things made for different games often does what you're looking at. You can etieher get lucky and delete the extra bones that arent currently necessary such as the super large bones, or youll be unlucky with an unusable armature and you'll have to re-rig it for vrchat. Hope this helps. Most's comment about Mixamo is prob the best advice, im curious if you stuck with it or still need help.

[waxen ivy]

My last world I've baked with poiyomi all over and overlapping UVs it was a nightmare compared to this one and im surprised I was able to bake it successfully. For this new siimplified avatar world, I specifically made the floors/walls in pieces so there'd be no overlapping UVs and not currently using poiyomi on anything, not sure why the world is baking brighter than the sun. It's super strange. On paper this should be an easy bake.

[gloomy moat]

Any help with this blender issue would be greatly appreciated
So odd scaling issue.
I have an avatar which is scale 1.0, but the body is 2.5 in Unity This is fine, everything is set up fine. It's whatever.

I've imported this fbx into blender to make some modifications and in blender the armature scale is 0.025 while the body scale is 1
I can't seem to figure out how to export this, or which things to apply scaling to, to end up with the old 1.0 and 2.5 so that all the physbones and more importanlty my shader outlines and things look the same
it ends up exporting as 1.0 and 1.0 or 1.0 and 0.025

[devout orchid]

@waxen ivy unity handles overlapping uvs just fine in my experience? did yoy enable generate lightmap uvs? its actually doublesided meshes that are a problem, since they share shadows for both sides.

@gloomy moat on export set scaling - fbx all

[waxen ivy]

I always generate light maps on imported fbxs, I believe there's even warnings about overlapping uvs in light baking in the vrc sdk somewhere. Not to be condescending but Overlapping UVs are absolutely an issue, it causes errors in unitys light calculations, which creates artifacts, you're just getting lucky if you're baking without issues with lots of overlapping. This is like super widely known and talked about in YouTube videos etc. In the pic I provided you wouldnt see those squares if there were no generated light maps if my understanding is correct.

[waxen ivy]

As far as I understand all I need to do now to trouble shoot is: 1) Fix my UV maps on my bed asset b/c unity is complaining, 2) I removed reflection probes and will bake them after as some people on unity forums have experienced the same super white walls baking with reflection probes.

Im smacking my head against unity, I specifically tried to make this process easier with prefabbed parts and no overlapping issues for a more "professional" workflow. Figured it would be easy this time around but im hitting unknown errors.

[gloomy moat]

fbx all sets the scale of the avatar to 1 and the body to 0.025

I want it do ideally be 2.5

[tough plover]

make sure the scaling isn't messed up in blender, you may want to apply transforms beforehand.

[gloomy moat]

that's what I'm trying to figure out. What to set scaling to in blender.
Pretty much the avatar isn't correct in unity. Avi is 1 and body is 2.5. BUT. It's been set up with these settings and I don't want to rework everything from scratch.
So I'm trying to essentially export it incorrectly so it ends up with avi 1 and body 2.5

[tough plover]

using FBX All will ensure the scaling in Unity matches the scaling in Blender

[gloomy moat]

I can get avi 1 body 1, or avi 1 and body 0.025, but can't seem to manage 2.5

[tough plover]

if it's not, you likely aren't using FBX All, or your model in unity was unpacked

[gloomy moat]

can I change the scale but not the size in blender?

[tough plover]

is there a reason why you're not applying that 2.5 scaling so that it ends up 1?

[gloomy moat]

in unity or blender?

[tough plover]

blender

like, ideally, your scaling should just be 1 everywhere

[gloomy moat]

yes

[tough plover]

so if you want the model to be 2.5x bigger, why not scale it 2.5x in blender and apply transforms?

[gloomy moat]

but, unfortunately, this avatar was set up in unity with a messed up scaling. And setting it to the ideal 1 scale messes a lot of things up

[tough plover]

it might be best to fix the scaling in blender, export as a new FBX, and use Pumkin's to copy components. there is an optional setting when you expand things like contacts in pumkin's to try and fix scale

[gloomy moat]

o

nice

[tough plover]

one note

pumkin's tool does not undo properly

[gloomy moat]

I'll keep that in mind. I'll run a unitybackup

[tough plover]

if you click Copy, and you notice something is messed up, delete the new model and drag the FBX in again

otherwise, there will be leftover stuff after undoing

[gloomy moat]

Much appreciated

[stray nebula]

Definitely looks like a weight painting issue it looks like either some of the arm is being deformed by like maybe a leg bone? Or all the hand bones don't have any weight painting on them anymore so the model just leaves them there when it moves.
You can test if it's being deformed by another bone like a leg bone by moving the other bones around individually and if the arm starts to move then that's the bone you need to remove the arm weights from
And you can test if the hand doesn't have any weight painting by grabbing the Root bone like the pelvis or whatever that bone is called on your model and moving it around if the hand stays in place in the world that means it doesn't have any weights on it and it will need to be added

[stray nebula]

Here's some of my past projects haha I'm a blender artist but I'm hoping to learn more about unity and exporting to VR chat from this server :D oh spoilers for the last image it's got really bright colors it's a sparkle dog

[velvet sluice]

when i get a high rank i am going to launch the Creme Egg UK Avatar.

What does anyone think of it?

[south saddle]

Nom the EGG!

[velvet sluice]

based on here today, goo tomorrow creme egg uk Adveritsments [sorry if i'm bad at typing]

[stray nebula]

This is so silly I love it

[timber tide]

How do i fix a top not having physbone but the chest does? whenever i go into play mode in unity and move the avi around to check the physbones the chest moves but will clip outside the shirt as it just stays in place

[steady zealot]

man do I hate weight painting...

Any tips for weight painting pants/hips/lower shirts to not look like complete garbage when sitting cross legged?

[hushed leaf]

make them shorter? Otherwise yeah, this is pretty difficult

[steady zealot]

I think maybe twist bones are the way to go

[steep cliff]

working on this goober rn

[spiral sigil]

Hello everyone
I'm here to make friends

[winter iron]

You dont need to spam this in multiple channels

[steep cliff]

let them girl boss how they want

[winter iron]

Looks nice

[steep cliff]

tank you :3

[spiral sigil]

Ok thanks 👍

[stray nebula]

Dude this is so hype

[quiet coral]

Hey, i was wondering if anyone might know what my issue might be, for some reason the bake isnt going super well. im trying to use a curvature generator but due to the bake not being good its clipped at the seems and has a lot of weird fragmentation. Im not exactly sure what could be causing this since im not very skilled with substance. I made sure there are no overlapping verts and moved mirroring verts over 1 on the x axis in blender. Besides that im not sure what could be causing this fragmenting.

[tough plover]

firstly, that UV map could be a lot better and waste less space, but the main issue here is that you're baking it with stacked UVs. you should move all of the UVs for one half one UV tile to the right, so that the texture looks the same but gets ignored when baking