avatar-rigging

[sleek radish]

That sort of thing will always be a neckpain. The auto-setup is janky at best.

[little forge]

rig is fine now but still a little bending to the right side

[sleek radish]

Chest tilt. I forgot if there's a real fix for that yet.

You have to adjust the bone in blender to compensate. It's a screwy unity thing

[little forge]

ah i see inside the unity scene idk why but my spine is placed where my hips are and replacing the model fixes it kinda

[autumn magnet]

hey, did any of the suggestions here fix this? im having the same issue

[little forge]

appearently theres an issue if i copy like external items from an old avatar to a new one then it moves up the selected bones

[vestal condor]

Straightening it kinda fixed it. Still a little bit of sag even after making it point slightly more upwards.

[autumn magnet]

Gotcha, thank you!

[cedar saddle]

Does anyone know how to effectively pose an avatar when it’s in a sfm/a-pose with a 45* rotation in the lower arm (sorry for the bad English it’s very late right now iv been trying for 7 hours)

[fading verge]

how do i add bones

i have the avatar and everything else but no bones

[crisp tendon]

Try the Mixamo website

[sleek radish]

How much do you know about blender?

[fading verge]

nothing 😳

[sleek radish]

Oh boyo.
I'd suggest looking into how to work blender in general, before doing rigging.

[sleek radish]

Unless you've got some level of understanding of 3D modelling, rigging can be kinda eeeeggghhhhh

[fading verge]

i tried maximo im all good now

[left pendant]

Hey does anyone else here use Maya for creating avatars? I’ve been having issues lately where characters heads go into the floor when sitting in a chair and hips rotating with full body tracking

[languid ermine]

any way to make this viable in vrchat?

[sage patio]

yes, there is a way to make proper, articulated digitigrade IK

however, that requires FinalIK

90$ on the unity asset store, 45$ when it's on sale

it will also require you to have 2 bone chains per leg; the weighed one, aka the one you have right now

and a secondary one, which is the one you'll be specifying in the rig config

essentially, the secondary one is the one that the game's IK or your trackers will move

and you'll be using constraints and FinalIK scripts to drive the weighed bones using the secondary chain

[fervent hornet]

The beauty of mutilating a humanoid rig is always so nice to read about

[sage patio]

kek

it's an artform

I never got my digi lets to work *exactly* the way I wanted, but I got close

following that guide got me decent results, which worked pretty well

but the thing I wanted to do was to make it so that extending my foot would also "extend" the leg more

because the real ankle would be a bit further back than the avatar's foot

should be doable though I think

[languid ermine]

Ok so an easier and cheaper alternative would be just to make it two bnes for the legs, and one for the foot?

[sage patio]

if you don't want it to have the proper digitigrade articulation, you can combine these two bones to make the lower leg bone

that way it would be rigged as a standard humanoid

but that joint in the middle won't work

it's how the vast majority of digitigrade models are done

[languid ermine]

Yea, it's unfortumate, but I should be able to combine the weight paints on the top bone, and bridge the gap. Thanks for your help

[little forge]

is it normal that the view of the bones is bugged when dragging something to your armature in unity?

(example i place a sword to my hand and attach it to the wrist bone), and when i click on the wrist bone the gizmo is at the place where the sword is and not directly where the wrist is)

[sage patio]

@Ggthb#2719 in the top left of unity, you should have two buttons

one that says global/local

the other days center/pivot

[fading verge]

Looking for someone who can make a knife or gun for my avatar

[plush sigil]

Whenever i parent the rig to my mesh it shifts my mesh forward. how do i get this to not do that?

[crisp tendon]

Apply transforms for both before merging

[hearty thunder]

Have the toe bone of the plati-foot and the 'foot' of the digi-foot in the same spot in space instead of planti-foot/digi-foot, constrain the IK transfer empty to the toe bone instead of the foot, and that should be all that's needed that would be different. At least, not without testing to actually know anyway.
Didn't shoot for that way myself only because it was a extra bone in the mix that would complicate things when I was already having a fun time getting it to work in the first place.

[hearty thunder]

That model all around is a bit of a mess. It's crossed my mind more than once to fix it up, but honestly with how much effort that would take, I'd be more inclined to start over from scratch, or at the very least keep most of the head and one or two other parts and redo everything else.
There's at least two uploads I'm aware of, of that model if you'd rather save yourself the effort that uses the already existing rig it comes with, to varying levels of successful.
Plus, the leg length of that model may be better inclined to go the platform shoe route over proper digitigrade anyway.

[languid ermine]

anyone know how to weight paint only on the vertex group and not remove from other vertex groups?

[young moth]

https://tenor.com/view/throwing-computer-ron-swanson-parks-and-recreations-nope-no-gif-3563659

[mortal goblet]

that meme is perfect @young moth im tempted to do that after this new sdk update. i cnat seem to get the visemes to work anymore and it looks like they removed features this update

[sage patio]

this is interesting https://youtu.be/iZA9bl-t6J4

[hoary spear]

I have a model in blender but it has no bones/rig. Can someone link me a guide/tell me what kind of bones I need to add?

[kindred pollen]

<#avatar-rigging message>

[unreal granite]

can seomeone tell me how you make normal avatars dance. not mmd .. just normal dances how do you do it without using mixamo? mixamo only has so many dances.

[exotic socket]

Anyone happen to know what causes this? Only ever really happens when not using fbt with that ava.

[sleek isle]

Disable normalize in the option of your tool

[sleek isle]

Do you use any custom base layer?

[sleek isle]

Use this website for a fast rigging.https://www.mixamo.com/

[hoary spear]

What kind of rig type do I need?

Does standard human work?
(Also thanks for the help)

[exotic socket]

nope, default base layer.

[sleek isle]

Screen shot your descriptor(controller) for me I need to validate something

[exotic socket]

sure

[sleek isle]

It's a client. If for sure at this point. Nothing you can do.

But can you reproduce it everytime at ease?@exotic socket

In all map?

[exotic socket]

sorta yea, it is very common when I'm not using fbt with the avatar, when moving forward or back. map does not effect it at all.

[sleek isle]

You think that be a bug specific with some avatar rigging setup?

[hoary spear]

That website is magic! Thanks a lot

[exotic socket]

yea, that is my guess. have one other very similar avatar that does it. Will probably just have to experiment around later more.

[robust reef]

Does anyone here per chance have a screenshot of a "perfect" hand rig, specifically for use with Valve Index Knuckles Controllers? Straight fingers are a given, and animate just fine. But thumbs? I can never seem to get them to behave properly within unity's "muscles and poses" settings. I'm familiar enough with the unity set-up, but wondered if there was a specific rig pose, or rather "bone relations" for the thumbs that I'm missing!

[lethal cedar]

the heel (3d cursor) is supposed to be on the ground
do I need to edit the mesh or is there some rigging magic I can do?

[honest ravine]

Ay quick question I wanna add dynamic bones to this earring but I'm not entirely sure which part of it I should add to the root. Should I just drag the whole earring package into the root or just the armature part?

[lethal cedar]

I believe you should drag the whole package onto the bone you want it attached on, or use parent constraint

[honest ravine]

Alright I got it working but the earring doesn't stick with the ear iif the avatar moves even the slighest bit, any way to make it stick more?

[coarse pollen]

how can i add a jaw bone to my model

[coarse pollen]

elasticity

or stifness

[honest ravine]

Welp now I got a new problem anytime I select anything the components and whatnot arent showing up in the inspector tab

[honest ravine]

tried those but moving the avatar still makes it drag away from the ear

[coarse pollen]

is i actually attatched to the head?

[honest ravine]

yeah its attached to the armature of the ear

[coarse pollen]

how many part are there to the earring

[honest ravine]

about 2 or 3 parts

[coarse pollen]

attatch to last one

[honest ravine]

the last one is the plane

[coarse pollen]

then 2nd

[honest ravine]

lemme see how it works now

[sleek isle]

Unity force it to be in t-pose, but you can manually rotate the bones of the hands and ignore the warning.

[rigid spire]

so idk where to post this but i have this issue where when i export my model as an fbx, its vrc blendshapes dont show up. but they show in blender

[rigid spire]

how to fix: use the exporter in cats, for some reason that works

[sleek isle]

Try to have the spine chain align behind the upper leg bone instead. See if that fix it.

[thin terrace]

Is there a reference for how unity matches bones in the humanoid rig? I have a model where spine2 (chest) doesn't match but everything else does. it does have vertices with weights. not a huge deal, but I'm really puzzled

[exotic socket]

After messing around I think it may certainly be some kind of bug now unrelated to that model. Was able to reproduce that effect on many different random avatars. thank you for suggestions though, appreciated

[atomic harness]

can someone give me some pointers for rigging a non humanoid character

it has face and arms

[tulip root]

If no legs then just add legs to armature but thats it. Then unassign in Unity.

For vrc needs to be humanoid tho

[atomic harness]

Yeah but arms are attached to head. And the hiarchy don't match

I think i need a human skeleton and reverse ik resolvers to puppet the other armature

[tulip root]

make an invisible head and neck.

[atomic harness]

That's doesn't move right

[tulip root]

leave neck and head without weights

but add the bones

its gonna be weird I know but its what you gonna have to work with.

[atomic harness]

There are more advanced ways to make a non humanoid avatar. You need custom animation controller. And deal with very poor documentation

[tulip root]

Wait what do you want exactly? Just animations relating to IK or rigging because youre in rigging right now?

[tulip root]

head, neck, chest, spine, hips

make head, make neck then chest is the ball thing and then spine in it and hips in it

[atomic harness]

yeah but when i attach head to ball the shoulders don't move

[tulip root]

Of course not. Youre missing and having too many things. Its okay though. Someone will help you from here. Ive drank a bit and I aint helpful anymore. ❤️ Baiiiiii

Last sober-ish attempt

put the hips and spine in the ball too!

But weight the chest, spine and hips the same way

or simply jst click once with 0 weight. I dunno anymore

Something

its fine

[cedar cairn]

do you want the ball to move where your head moves or your chest?

[tulip root]

FIX IT

[atomic harness]

the ball should move with my head

[tulip root]

tHAT makes no sense

it has arms attached to it and everything

[cedar cairn]

you need the head bone to be in the middle of your ball, then the rest of the armature below that

also your arms have too many bones to be a humanoid in unity

you need an upper arm and a forearm and use unity constraints to restrict the movement so the arms dont bend like a normal elbow

[tulip root]

Picture = refrence

[cedar cairn]

the only things you need to weight paint is the head, upper arms, lower arms and hands

the rest just need to be parented to the correct bones

[tulip root]

head, neck out of ball. spine, chest and hips in ball

head, neck, chest, spine hips in ball

[cedar cairn]

My god woman

[tulip root]

Blame Alice! Not me! Im a contributing member to VR Chat society!

[cedar cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/john-jonah-jameson-lol-laughing-hysterically-laughing-out-loud-funny-gif-17710543

[thin terrace]

drinking at 9am my time, tsk tsk

[tulip root]

Dont judge me Ben im an alcoholic XD

Im doing good things tho!

[thin terrace]

another thing that ball avatar could do is put the ball on the hips, but also put the head bone at the same place as the hips. parent most of the ball to the hips, but hook up some inner parts to the head, sort of like an eyeball

might be able to use constraints in unity to force it to rotate only around Y like an eyeball

wait eyeballs can rotate in multiple axes uh nevermind about that last part

[tulip root]

im just weirded out by the fact that they wantt he thing to rotate when theyve got arms there

[thin terrace]

they will be too as soon as they try it with IK!

[tulip root]

Are we 100% sure that they wanna mess with dat?

[atomic rapids]

Well we started at 4pm my Time so Yeah hahha

[tulip root]

o-O HOW are you here??

[atomic rapids]

Suprise Babygirl haha

[sleek isle]

vsame

[foggy flower]

so how can i connect the ball thing to the rig

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/808569442707046451/876906264729374760/unknown.png

also should i rotate it for it to make sense to my hand, if yes then please tell me wich way

[thin terrace]

you parent (ctrl-p) the mesh to the rig. then you assign weights (either automatically on parent or manually with vertex groups and/or weight painting) to control which bones deform it

if you want it to never deform but be stuck to the hand, find the name of your hand bone, go into edit mode on the ball, select all, add them to a vertex group with the exact same name as the bone

then do the parent to armature without changing weight

[foggy flower]

i want to amke it a puppet avatar, so i should probably make it stuck to the hand

correct?

[thin terrace]

I don't know what a puppet avatar is so I don't know

[foggy flower]

its an avatar that is stuck to your hand

[thin terrace]

does it move? head turns? arms move? etc

[foggy flower]

the rig should work as a normal humanoid, however the body is not visible except the mesh connected to the hand

[thin terrace]

so if you move your left arm the left arm of the puppet moves, but the right arm just hangs so you can move your real right arm?

[foggy flower]

no

like the mesh moves with the hand without deforming it

[thin terrace]

yeah if the mesh is static but moves with the hand you just put all verts in the mesh into a vertex group named after the bone, and then parent the mesh to the armature

[foggy flower]

how do i make a vertex group

[foggy flower]

do i just assign the vertices to a group with the same name as the right hand

[thin terrace]

yes, just click "+" to make a group (it's under in the green triangle tab) and then double click the new name ("Group") to change to match the bone name. looks like you have it

then "a" to select all verts, and press the "assign" button to assign them

to test you can select nothing ("aa" or click nothing) and then hit "select" on the group and it will select things in the group

actually there might be a key shortcut. select a, hit ctrl-g? maybe

doesn't matter how you make it. just that they're assigned and the name matches the bone

then parent without any of the "weights" options and it will move 100% with that bone

[foggy flower]

alrighty then

weight 0

now i can port it into vrchat

[astral wing]

how does rigging even work and is it even worth it for quadrupedal/no proper libs at all creatures?

[sage patio]

it can get a little messy

in order to actually have hand and head tracking, there needs to be a humanoid rig present

you can add onto that rig however

[astral wing]

Thats understandable

[sage patio]

for quadrupeds, you could use FinalIK to animate those procedurally

[astral wing]

But i wouldnt put the hand bones on the ground

[sage patio]

the humanoid rig would still be in a T pose

[astral wing]

That sounds like a lot of work and is also nonworking on quest

[sage patio]

correct

can't do this stuff on quest

on PC however you can do whatever you want

[astral wing]

Guess ill just download some humanoid bone setup and place it/adjust it inside blender right?

[sage patio]

I shall refer you to the "how the fuck spider work" discord for all things finalIK related

[astral wing]

https://cgi.tutsplus.com/tutorials/building-a-basic-low-poly-character-rig-in-blender--cg-16955 i wouldnt really want to add each bone individually, _,

[thin terrace]

I'll take that link

[sage patio]

sure

[upper yoke]

I'm trying to set up tail movement, only issue is that this works in Unity, but not in VRC. I'm only using Rigidbody, AimConstraint, and a Joint components, so nothing's getting autoblocked. What's going on? How can debug this?

[crisp tendon]

You have dynamic bones enabled in vrc ?

[wild sundial]

Perhaps the dbone limiter is enabled in vrchat.

turn it off and restart the game

[crisp tendon]

That doesn't require a restart

[upper yoke]

I'm not using Dynamic Bones, I'll try that though. There's a good chance I have it restricted

That didn't fix it. Also, I have another character that's using a similiar set up.... I actually I think I remember what fixed it. I think the animator is overriding the Constraints on the tail bones...

[upper yoke]

It wasn't that...

[thin terrace]

do you have any animations anywhere referring to those bones?

[upper yoke]

Nope

[thin terrace]

do you have any animation override layers set at all? I'd at least try without

[upper yoke]

Okay

That didn't fix it. I don't think it the rotation copy constraints on the tail that aren't working. There's others on the ears that work fine.

[thin terrace]

put visible objects on the things you think you're following (constraints and aim-at) and see if they are moving as expected in VR

[upper yoke]

Hehe, that probably should have been the first thing I tried

I forgot to remove the colliders on the primatives I added, so now we know for sure the rotation and look at constraints are working perfectly....

[upper yoke]

It's working it's just that the effect is very very weak compared to how it looks in Unity...

[hexed breach]

anyone have any helpful tips for weight painting shoulders?

[upper yoke]

I do, but that already looks way better than any characters I've rigged, at least in a screenshot. I add extra bones parented to chest to force auto-weight paint to respect the ribs.

[opal flint]

gamers I need some help

[real raven]

I do too please im so confused

[opal flint]

Spine Hierarcky incorrect thing

[mild stratus]

1. Unity's likely failing to auto-map the bones because the names are in Japanese
2. Try manually remapping the bones.

Or rename the bones in blender to english names.

[opal flint]

I'll try renaming them

[real raven]

Reposting here just in case i put it in the wrong place-

Hey guys im uh

Having trouble setting up eye tracking in unity?

I did it once before like a year and a half ago for one avatar but i cant figure it out now either. A few vids I saw say theres an option to duplicate and export for vrchat in the VRM section but i don’t see that, and I also can’t seem to rig dynamic bones to my avatar either. Sdk menu is also not showing up. I’ve been trying for like 15 hours total trying to figure this out. Please help me
I used a vroid model and uploaded it just fine like a year ago, but i didnt have these issues. I also can’t seem to add my custom animations i have to my model

[thin terrace]

not 100% sure it even cares about names. I've had it fail to match "chest" for "chest"

[mild stratus]

In my experience, even though it can fail randomly, correct naming seems to reduce the likely-hood of that, especially with finger bones.

[tidal yarrow]

So I have a weird thing happening with my avatar where I see my avatar with its arm twisted from my perspective but from everyone else's perspective it looks fine. Any idea's on why? It happens both on my Quest 2 and in desktop mode.

Im on the right and my right arm is twisted so the strip is facing forward but when I look at my friend using my avatar it appears even

[proud crow]

everything was fine, except this error~

any suggestion?

[fervent hornet]

Neck is a child of Spine5, instead of Spine4 like the shoulders

[glacial flare]

Modeled in blender and armature is looks fine, but importing Unity I got:

What can be cause of this...?

[fervent hornet]

What does your humanoid configuration look like?

[glacial flare]

Looks like:

And Blender:

I think they should be look fine...

[fervent hornet]

Well you can get rid of that root bone, I was wondering more about the hip rotation tbh

Does the weight painting work well in blender?

[glacial flare]

I think so

[fervent hornet]

Are those lower legs a separate mesh than the rest of the model?

[glacial flare]

Ahh they are same mesh but separated by armature

I mean uh

Same object, mesh

[fervent hornet]

If the lower legs are the same mesh as the upper legs, why can you select just the lower legs

[glacial flare]

Sorry am I wrong with any

I mean

Upper leg and lower leg are separated

lower leg and foot is same mesh

Like this

[fervent hornet]

Yeah alright, Im just saying that combining everything should make it easier to see whats going on

Working with one mesh will make it easy to check weighting

[glacial flare]

Like, combine upper and lower legs?

Sorry I'm not pretty sure

[fervent hornet]

You have multiple meshes, if you combine the meshes (ctrl+j) then you wont have to swap between meshes in weight paint mode

You will need to combine all your meshes before you upload anyways

[glacial flare]

Ahh for the reason of unapplied modifier, I can't combine them all

[fervent hornet]

What modifier?

[glacial flare]

mirror and some parts are not same place

[fervent hornet]

Keep in mind that when you export an fbx out of blender, all modifiers are applied. If you cant apply a modifier (like when the mesh has shapekeys) then the modifier will be applied badly or not at all

[glacial flare]

Yes that should be, this is because wip still

I want to see what's the current looks like

[fervent hornet]

Im not sure how the modifiers will function if exported tbh, if I were you I would save a duplicate, apply all modifiers, check to make sure everything is still working, then test that in unity

[glacial flare]

gonna give it a try, wait a minute

Applied model still same behave

[fervent hornet]

Do the legs twist when you apply the tpose?

[glacial flare]

Yes

Sorry for Japanese but you could know modifier is only armature

[fervent hornet]

Im just stuck on why its flipping just the lower leg but not the upper leg

[glacial flare]

Now applying armature modifier, it looks like fine. Probably mirror is not a part because there's unapplied mirror modifiers too (idk why)

[glacial flare]

Thank you for spending your time!

[rigid spire]

im gonna forward this here cause i was told this might be a rigging issue

it only happens when i lean my head down, i havent tried the model in vr yet

[proud crow]

thanks~

[fading verge]

Where can i get avatar files? Is there a website that i can use?

[proud crow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/839502866094751795/877221523470032976/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/839502866094751795/877221676360806440/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/839502866094751795/877221965826498620/unknown.png
but i've tested and this is the result~
https://tenor.com/view/sadge-sad-xqc-sad-pepe-sad-feelsbad-gif-17782875

[sage patio]

I think your bone naming and bone mapping in the configuration is fucked up

[proud crow]

this model was ripped from game..
it was contain bones but it supposedly for game not vrchat.. if only i could re-rig this model

[sage patio]

can just rename the bones

and tweak the rig in blender

[proud crow]

my 3d knowledge isn't that good

so~..

:sadge:

[vagrant rapids]

I'm curious if anyone else has worked on the problem of legs and arms being disproportionate to one another and you fight with either having t-rex arms or knees that can't bend, depending on 'User Height'

[sleek radish]

constraints. holy moley.

[sleek radish]

Things I'm doing; working shoulder blades, working pectoral and lat muscles, fixbone for delt and ulna/radius

[sage patio]

that's crazy

[sleek radish]

It's certainly -driving- me crazy

If I have to make one more glute fixbone

I'mma lose my mind

[magic spruce]

anyone have an issue with specific models sorta vibrating a bit in fullbody? Like a small amount of jittering with the hips/spine area and knees

[tulip root]

Check if its any of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sfTEBAl8sA&list=PL4xfXwjJzuHiarRaPwzMsYK7Nd0Qf9kud&index=16

[magic spruce]

working my way through, done most of the fixes

[rigid spire]

why is my model's hands broken

they look fine in blender

[sleek isle]

Do you use constraint and the muscle bone are not the first child ?

verify if the hand don't have other attach to them

[rigid spire]

is this in Unity or blender?

[sleek isle]

[rigid spire]

?

[tulip root]

Why two bones? Arm should end at wrist. Your weight paint is messed up.

[rigid spire]

i mean this is how it is in unity

[rigid spire]

one is a wrist constraint

[tulip root]

Well the problem is still weight paint. Pose the hand in Blender and fix it

Could be the constraints too but I know nothing of those.

[rigid spire]

it might be the wrist constraint, cause i posed the hand and its fine. i'll send the .png of the wrist constraint instructions one sec...

cause this isnt MY original body this is made by a creator called Pandaabear

[tulip root]

@fervent hornet ☝️

[rigid spire]

so i'll try adding the wrist constraint and see how that works

[fervent hornet]

It specifically says you dont need them to get it to work, so you can see if it still works in game without the constraints added

Otherwise youve shown what the creator says the constraint should look like, but have not shown what your constraint looks like

[rigid spire]

i havent set up the constraints, im setting em up rn to see if they'll work

[sleek radish]

If you aren't using the constraints, you will have issues.

The fixbones control large portions of the hand and arm mesh.

Always set your constraints.

[rigid spire]

alrighty, i've have em set the way the sheet says. its uploading rn and i'll see if that fixes everythin

[tulip root]

Aint you supposed to be at work right now?

[rigid spire]

if worse comes to worst, i just re-add the base

nope still broken

[sleek radish]

I am.

[tulip root]

Why would anyone add constraints to wrists or fingers? Like what is it supposed to do? Also @sleek radish if you have free time consider coming to say hi in HS. Need ideas for something. ;P

[sleek radish]

Fixes pinching.

I'm actually gonna do that for Hegao v10

And elbow/wrist fix stuff.

On top of the fully working shoulders pecs and lats etc.

Lmao

Sanity is overrated.

[tulip root]

How many years has it been now that youve worked on that model of yours anyway? Takes me like 3 days to come up with something from scratch when you spend forever on one thing.

[rigid spire]

if i had to guess it has to do with the hoodie im using. the hoodie has its own rig and has a parent to the lil straps which is connected to the model via bone offset partent

[sleek radish]

HegaoV10 has been in progress for around 1 month-ish

mostly due to schedule

and me not having the skills necessary

[thin terrace]

not sure if this got fixed in the intervening replies, but it looks like twist to me. that's caused when there is bone roll on the armature in blender and then the IK "straightens" it which puts a big twist in that joint. fix the bone roll to match the parent (there are entire tutorials on fixing bone roll, but it's not that hard). after fixing in blender on re-import to unity you'll have to toggle it from humanoid to none and back to get it to reconfigure the armature

[rigid spire]

I was able to fix it on my own

[thin terrace]

nice!

[rigid spire]

Essentially it was because enforcement t pose was messing with the fingers and hand rig. So I was able to fix it by just, basically, reverting that

[thin terrace]

in the criminal justice system, pose based offenses are considered especially heinous. in vrchat, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the T Pose Enforcement Unit. These are their stories

[queen cloud]

Does anyone have any idea what this issue is and haw to correct it? Sorry for the reddit link, I am on mobile at the moment https://www.reddit.com/r/VRchat/comments/p6lewz/quest_compatibility_broke_this_guys_second_pair/

[near grove]

is there a rig i can use

cus i cant make a skeleon for my life

[queen cloud]

Mjcox I can rig that for you if you send me the blender file.

[near grove]

chears

[queen cloud]

I should also add that I later added constraints to the fingers and those are working in the mirror, but the arms still aren’t. If I can’t fix this I might have to delete the second pair of arms, which would be a huge shame.

[orchid quail]

can someone help me add my fursona into vr chat i is dum but i wil paey muneys

[tulip root]

For the future:
Instead of subdividing everything all you need to do is make the left side of the armature.
duplicate the bone from neck to your arm, name it Forearm.L, subdivide the rest of said arm, add fingers with duplicate from wrist, name each finger and bone with something but add .L on the end. After this you do the same with the left leg from hip. Once that side is done you dublicate the bones and mirror them on the other side. Rename bones to .R on that side and then weight paint is going to get easier for you. Trust me. Just make sure to enable x mirroring when weight painting.

Oh yeah! Also make sure that after dublicating that the bones that you duplicated are either parented to chest or hip or wrist. Easy peasy!

[near grove]

i understood dont subdevide everything and thats it

[tulip root]

😅

[near grove]

basicaly just loop cut where joints are?

like gamecube models do

[tulip root]

When clicking right click on bones you get 3 options

subdivide, duplicate and extrude.

Instead of using subdivide and extrude, DONT use extrude. Only subdivide and duplicate

Just a minute...

[tulip root]

@near grove

Tried to record this for you but I seem to have fucked up OBS on my laptop 😛

[tulip root]

To explain why to name bones like this:

Basically you can either do it like this:

Or like this:

Both work and saves your time and effort

[pulsar gale]

I have a model with no bones how do I put bones in it?

[crisp tendon]

Try the mixamo website first

[pulsar gale]

tried it and the wings on the back caused issues with the elbows and one of the wing tips is stuck in place while it moves around

[pulsar gale]

does anyone else have some help to offer me other than pointing me to another youtube video that i'll waste more time looking at trying to fix a problem i've already spent the last two weeks looking at damn near every single youtube video on the subject already and still haven't found the answer to my problem

[crisp tendon]

what's your problem ?

[tulip root]

Going off of what you said its either one or the other of these two super common mistakes with wings:

1. Wings weighted to wrong bones or not weighted properly at all:
   Fix your weight paint. Make sure that each part of the wing is weighted to something. (preferably only on the wing bones)
2. Parent is not on chest:
   When it comes to your wings its either not parented to the chest and is either parented to elbows or nothing at all. Go to Blender and show your armature/what things are parented to.

Most likely your wings are weighted to elbows and whatever else. Heres a picture of how to weight things properly in parts. (a friend of mine weighted these for me since I was lazy and didnt know how to do the ctrl + L trick that I know now since my wings are literally in parts to make it more realistic.)

[pulsar gale]

there were no bones in the model whatsoever

[queen cloud]

Well there needs to be bones in it. Imagine if YOU didn't have any bones. That would not be fun, would it?

Jokes aside, did you upload the boneless model to Mixamo? I didn't know Mixamo could generate a rig like that. If so, definitely don't expect it to be perfect with a model that isn't just a simple humanoid. It's probably done what Blender would do if you parented a model to an armature with automatic weighting. It's somewhat accurate, but parts of the mesh will be weighted where they aren't supposed to be.

If you download an animation from Mixamo with that skin attached it will essentially give you what it thought the rig should be.

If you don't know what to do with it from there, give it to me and I will take a look.

[queen cloud]

...Anyway, I don't mean to repeat myself, but is anyone able to help me with my issue? I haven't received any advice or suggestions at all and the problem is really, really bugging me. I feel like I've tried everything.

https://preview.redd.it/k79vi0sr42i71.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=6ab24ee3bf2af78713e924522ebd79f8631a23a8

The second pair of arms is supposed to match the pose of the first. It does, but not in mirror reflections or cameras.

The weird thing is that it did work fine at first, but adding Quest compatibility broke it. I later added the same rotation constraints to the hands and those work fine, but the arms don't.

I should also point out that the middle arms aren't in a complete T-Pose, but are bent slightly at the elbow. No idea how to fix it.

[tulip root]

If you want the arms to move while having a headset on your face then consider weight painting the arms with the other arms to the same bones. Should fix it.

[queen cloud]

Oh I'm not on Vr. And I did consider what you mentioned, but then the bottom arms would rotate relative to the pivot point of the upper arms, and it would not look right at all.

Also, I have noticed that the issue does not seem to be occurring with the avatar's sitting animations. When he sits the constraints display properly in the mirror, and then the bottom arms get stuck like that when he stands back up. So, I am thinking now maybe that it's an issue with the standing animation overrides?

[tulip root]

If you dont want them to do anything other than just be there then just animate them yourself on idle, walk and standing etc on Unity. Not that big of a deal tbh.

[queen cloud]

I want them to copy the upper pair of arms, which they are doing. The problem is that for some reason they are stuck in a t-pose specifically in mirror reflections ever since I added quest compatibility.

[lapis robin]

It's simply because Quest doesn't support constraints.

[queen cloud]

I know. I removed the second pair of arms in the quest version. But I am puzzled as to why this error is occurring on PC, and only in mirrors reflections.

I think it might be specific to the custom standing animations override, because the issue doesn't occur with the sitting animations.

[lapis robin]

Maybe.

[queen cloud]

Switching back to the defaults shows working constraints. But when I switch back to my custom overrides the issue comes back again! So I haven't found a solution but at least I've narrowed it down a bit.

[queen cloud]

It seems that it might be specifically one of my custom animations causing the issue, because when I keep the custom override but put all the animations in the list back to their originals the issue ceases. Now I will try adding them back one by one to see which one it is. This will be tedious, I think.

[tulip root]

Its a known issue. Youre not the only one with this problem when it comes to mirrors.

[queen cloud]

Well darn, that is peculiar. But I think I have figured it out. The animation causing the issue is a simple custom one I made from scratch rather than downloading from Mixamo. Not at all bothered about having to let it go haha.

[tulip root]

Are other people seeing this problem or is it just you with the mirror?

[queen cloud]

I don't really know. I've only brought it up maybe once or twice in public rooms but didn't exactly get any clear answers

[tulip root]

If its just you then id do what the person who had this problem previously did. Just deal with it when it comes to mirrors. ✌️ 😏 Person literally said "okay if its just me who has the problem and others see it fine then no worries"

[queen cloud]

I'm not a mirror dweller but I look in mirrors too often for it to not be an issue! Especially since I don't have VR it's the only way to get an image of my avatar in action. In any case, I've finally resolved it. Though now I suppose I'd better take a look at my animation and try to figure out why it janked the behaviour of the rig.

[sleek isle]

transform is to be place in the gesture layer and anything else beside muscle in FX

[queen cloud]

Eh? I'm a little lost as to what exactly you mean. It's a rotation constraint applied to each bone. And the issue turned out to be caused by one of my custom animations, anyway 😉

[lethal cedar]

is this enough for IK or whatever? in the official rig requirements it says you need index, middle and thumb

[sleek isle]

not on sdk3

[lethal cedar]

how many do I need

[sleek isle]

0

[lethal cedar]

huh, welp, thanks, good to know

[lethal cedar]

the fingers want to be at around 45° for it to be considered t-pose, same on the other hand, so it looks really weird the ones go forward others go back, will it be a problem? how can I fix it?

[lethal cedar]

I fixed it, all I think I did was make the finger bones closer and the hand bone further back

[willow venture]

No matter what this one area stays red

How do I fix that

[queen cloud]

What do you mean by 'stays red'?

Pardon me for butting in before the previous matter can be resolved, but I have another question. Would I be able to make an avatar with noodley arms like this one? The original model had lots of bones in the arm allowing the shape to be manipulated however needed. But Unity/VRchat avatars only have the upper and lower arm bones.

What I'm using in that screencap is Blender's 'Bendy bones' setting. But I'm pretty certain that won't work in Unity so I'm hoping someone might know of a workaround or alternative to get this effect. I know that simply rigging the character normally would work, but having the arms bend stiffly like they have bones would look wrong on this character.

[fresh lark]

Pardon me for popping a message in here about this, but... I happened to get a model recently. Unfortunately, said model doesn't have any rigging, and I don't know how to do such. Is there anyone around here who would be able to do rigging for a model, good enough for full-body?

[fervent hornet]

You can either use forwards kinematics with constraints, or inverse kinematics with final ik.

[snow dust]

So, um...
I tried importing my Final Fantasy 14 character into VRC, and everything looks fine in Blender, but in Unity...

Dear God..

I don't understand what happened...

[drowsy basalt]

Umm buddy? Wtf

[fading verge]

If you have the CATS blender plugin installed use the cats export, not the normal blender export

Funny things can apparently happen to models if you don't use that export

[snow dust]

I can try that. Thank you.

[dim jetty]

trying to add hair bones so i can make them dynamic in unity. am i doing it right?

[queen cloud]

Depending on how complex the model is I should be able to do a decent rigging though. Not sure about full-body compatibility since I don't have FBT myself but it should work. Send me the model and I will give it a go.

[snow dust]

I just tried that, and it still broke. T^T

[fading verge]

idk what else it could be, I notice your bones in the picture are leaning to her left and thats where alot of the mesh is being squished to so it probably is related to that

not sure what course of action would be taken thoo

[snow dust]

I think I fixed it

I was following a guide, and the guide never used the 'Fix Model' option on CATS, but I just tried it and it seems to look fine in Unity now.

[fading verge]

Ah perfect

[odd sequoia]

idk if this applies here but speaking theoretically would i be able to have a rig that when i press a button on it, it causes one of the sliders to go up one tick or down one tick?

and second question is it possible to have an avatar item that i can press or push down on?

And third a tutorial would be amazing

[sage patio]

@odd sequoia "causes one of the sliders to go up one tick"?

[odd sequoia]

i haven't knowledge of anything

[dim jetty]

how do i fix this?

[sage patio]

@odd sequoia would be helpful if you described what you were trying to do exactly

[odd sequoia]

nvm i think i got it thanks though!

[zealous steppe]

Just a question, if I attached clothes on a rigged avatar using Blender and exports it to Unity, it won't be any issues if I upload it to VRChat (i.e. avatar is only in T-pose)

[queen cloud]

Which constraints specifically?

Bear in mind I am aiming for a character who has a standard two-bone arm, but the arm curves smoothly

[fervent hornet]

You can probably do a bunch of rotation constraints to create a forwards kinematics solution, honestly I havent done it personally as I always just do inverse instead

[sleek radish]

Is there a way to override the normal ik/tracking temporarily on a limb? Trying to set up a rifle and have the dominant hand ik to the grip, and the gun constrain to the shoulder and offhand

[fading verge]

For some reason the characters jacket wont move with the armature, which is a bit of a problem-

Any ideas on how to fix this?

[crisp tendon]

Is it merged and weight painted ?

[fading verge]

I definitely didn't weight paint it, what would be the best process on learning on how to do that?

[crisp tendon]

Lots of YouTube tutorials !

[tulip root]

Theres a few videos here if you have the time to watch any of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnMmp5yl-8E&list=PL4xfXwjJzuHiarRaPwzMsYK7Nd0Qf9kud&index=18

[tulip root]

Also refer to these images @fading verge

[fading verge]

Much thanks <3

You are a godsend!

[tulip root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/854581770561257512/878028241598812180/GothicSalute2.gif

[sleek radish]

I'll be streaming my own weight painting stuff in an hour in vrctaders, @fading verge if you wanna join.

[tulip root]

am i welcome to join even if ill be mute/deafen?

[sleek radish]

Ofc, you goober.

[tulip root]

What happen to the scythe btw? XD

[sleek radish]

Oh, I'll send you the fbx right now.

[fringe bear]

i've got a model that doesnt have knee bones, cats says it cant fix

[tulip root]

Good boy ❤️

[sleek radish]

Uwu

[fringe bear]

will it work?

[tulip root]

What do you have instead?

[sleek radish]

Probably not, depending on your goals.

[fringe bear]

just two leg bones

[sleek radish]

Hm.

[tulip root]

Then no

[sleek radish]

Make fake knees.

[tulip root]

You need 2 on each leg and then 2 foot things

[fading verge]

I might be able to join soon! ^^ Thanks for the invite

[fringe bear]

just add two bones and have them parented to the existing leg bones, yeah?

[sleek radish]

What are you trying to do, with only two leg bones?

[tulip root]

ye

but add foot and foot end too

or toe base as its called

[sleek radish]

^^^

[fringe bear]

got it working enough so cats likes it, i'll see how it looks in game

ty !

[tulip root]

Is it just me whos kinda concerned of what Bubbler is doing to not have proper knees? XD

[fringe bear]

it's a short lil guy, he doesnt really have legs to begin with haha

[tulip root]

Cute X3

Anyway @sleek radish im gonna challenge your brain to solve this for me:

My avatar is excellent with polys but thanks to dynamic bones my rating went to good.
This means that I have this and that amount of polys I could add to my model and still stay in good since why the flip would I keep my model low poly if the rating goes to flip anyway?

I add an extra outfit and wings to the avatar. End up using the same bones as used with the previous outfit when it comes to dynamic bones to avoid adding extras so I wouldnt drop to medium. I end up dropping to medium anyway because I have 4 skinned meshes. I have body, scarf, coat and wings. All of them are weighted to bones which makes them skinned meshes.

Now here are my questions:

1. Who is going to be able to use 128 memory slots in parameters when the mesh renderer limit is so low? Is it all just gonna be shaders and shape keys? Note that im aware that the 128 memory slot is mostly meant to be the cap for poor avatars but the point stands!
2. How the flip am I ever going to keep up with the amount of polys im allowed to use on the avatar when every single time I try to add something it just drops to lower and lower rating thanks to something else?
3. Should I just merge the meshes, make them into shape keys or add parent bones and then use said bones or shape keys to equip said meshes while its still a part of the body because I dont think thats gonna work the way I want it to. Most likely im going to attempt working with shape keys to see if that is going to be able to solve my issue but ill just make a separate test avatar for that because this is just ridiculous.

Also another thing!
In the VRC Avatar Performance list it says that im allowed to have 150 bones, 4 DB components, 0 DB colliders and 16 DB transforms to have a good performing avatar.
Currently I have 4 DB components, 0 DB colliders, 16 DB transforms if roots are counted in even though theyre the 4 DB components, 79 bones and I also have used 26 528 polys from the 70 000 poly limit.

How is anyone going to be able to have 150 bones on a good performing avatar when said bones can barely do anything without dropping your rating? It cannot be a skirt, it cannot be hair or anything that would clip with the body from the front since youre not allowed to use colliders on good performing avatars. It could be an animation but how many bother making custom animations on avatars anyway? I could do it because im absolutely insane anyway but if we talk about an average VRC user then its highly unlikely.

Lets use my avatar as an example I have 4 skinned meshes already so if I were to add bones and a demanding animation then id need yet another skinned mesh especially if I were to use bones to move different objects around. Now apparently youre allowed to have 2 skinned meshes for a good performing avatar so this just makes more questions than answers. Just how?

Please do note that I still have a lot to learn about avatar creation but that grind never stops no matter how skilled you are so if anything someone more knowledgeable just please educate me on how the flip im ever going to work with these limits? I want green and good is as low as im willing to go. Ill make an exception with this avatar but im gonna do some testing to fix this huge problem of mine.

Its rigging related so posted here X3

[sleek radish]

Memory slots is for expression controls.

Make a spreadsheet of the stuff you're using.

Seperate the meshes with shapekeys and the meshes with just bones.

Unless you NEED the material slots.

For dynbones, it's for things like hanging straps and chains, etc.

Stuff where collission isn't hugely important, and also, it's not really base don what's "normal" but what's the most intensive.

Collisions are an order of magnitude more intense on processing than regular dynbone.

There are also ways to """cheat""" the dynbone system

(Using stiffness to create cone colliders, for example)

The way my avatar is set up, I have one skinned mesh for all my verts that are changed by shapekeys, one skinned mesh for mesh that has bone deforms, and the rest are regular meshes.

I have one mat for my clothes mesh, one mat for my hands (cbar occlusion stuff), one mat for main body, one mat for anything in the shapekey mesh not captured, 1 per particle, and 1 for my cbar, for a total of 8.

If I needed another, I'd merge all my meshes as one, and make people deal with my shapekey stuff.

It's basically a game of balancing engineering requirements.

I totally am willing to help you maximize your avii, featuire wise btw

Particles, etc.

It's be really cool for you to have idle "void" particles smoking off your body IMHO.

like, really subtle, optimized kinda motes of void.

There's TONS of tricks to squeeze more features into an avatar, it's all about knowing how to make it fit.

And in return you can find someone to help me make this jacket, lmao.

[sleek radish]

Yeah, make a fake micro legbone. the IK should still function fine with it, since you don't need the foot either.

[tulip root]

Luck makes me use them for toggleables.

[sleek radish]

yuh

[tulip root]

Why would I have bones and shape keys?

[sleek radish]

It's good practice.

oh

faces

or in my case show/hide of skinned mesh items

I want 2 outfits, and that means I need to have them act odd.

[tulip root]

Thats cool.. Might have to try that out at some point. Basically select the root bone, make it stiff af and then unstiff the rest right?

[sleek radish]

I'm pushing edge case stuff in my case.

-kinda-.

stiffness is actually a percent of a cone/sphere collider.

so, .5 stiffness is 180 degrees of limited rotation

if you set your bones so those imaginary cones at rest state are acting as colliders, you can avoid using colliders for a lot of stuff liek hair.

I'm doing that for my CBar, on my hip, to prevent it from falling through my legs.

[tulip root]

Why would you have your clothes and body in a different material when you could atlas them in one? Also other stuff that aint reliant on different shader settings should all be put in the same material. I have 3 materials. One for clothes/body etc, one for emissions and then one for wings since im lazy to texture them. Gonna be adding your scythe in the main material as well but then I need to UV it again since cats fucks things up for me all the damn time

[sleek radish]

and for my glasses, possibly.

Cause I'm already hitting 4k limit for my body rn

lmao fuck cats tho

[tulip root]

Ive been thinking of adding particles on an angry gesture but at the moment I dont even have too many gestures anyway. Need to spend more time on the face tbh. Just been having a lot of other projects that ive had to work on. I did add better visemes though so now it seems like im speaking. Just gotta test out if it works since I just uploaded the new ... Medium... Model...

[tulip root]

Also what jacket??

[sleek radish]

momente

[tulip root]

I love it that we call it the CBar now XD

[sleek radish]

This but w/ blue or maybe black lining

[tulip root]

Youre seriously stealing Lucks idea of a bomber jacket XD My god XDDDD

[sleek radish]

BINCH

It's more of a varsity jacket than a bomber

And I'm planning to combine it w/ a tacshirt.

Cause I want this IRL and until I level up my sewing skills....

[tulip root]

How patient can you be? If I were to make that for you it might take a few months before im able to even start. Currently having 12 projects to work on. (Yesterday I finished 2) Im not really in a hurry to get particles etc to my avatar and I feel like I could do it myself too since ive worked with particles in the past relating to worlds so I dont think its gonna be that hard. Just need a bit of advice here and there. Also university is starting again next month so thats something... Im pretty flippin booked. Unfortunately I have no contacts to any sewing companies even though ive worked with fashion brands before and I aint gonna make that jacket for you irl so 3D model better be good enough. I could ask a few others to make that for you too in 3D though if you want it as fast as possible.

[sleek radish]

Lmao, no worries. I need to learn to sew

Or sew better I should say

[tulip root]

Also when it comes to irl sewing im pretty darn good at making chokers etc but everything else... Not so much even if I was taught how to do it in school XD

@sleek radish the shapekey thing aint working T_T It still poses the other thing that has been weighted to the same bones..

Like for optimizations sake I weighted the scarf and coat to the same bones since it works but if I cant toggle the scarf or coat off thanks to skinned mesh renderer limit then I dunnoooooo

[sleek radish]

so, wait, explain your goals first

Coat, scarf, each toggleable individually

Your limit is you can't make separate meshes

The solution is to make the scarf and coat each have a shapekey that hides them. to do so, make a shapekey, and scale the object in question to 0.0001.

(before someone says, yes that's kinda janky, but blame not having more skinned meshes.

[tulip root]

Each takes one skinned mesh renderer since each object has been weighted to bones. Im merging all of them to body and trying to do the scale thing but since coat and scarf are both weighted to at thing that will be flowing behind me its gonna have stretched verts popping up...

See?

The things I do just because I want my avatar to be good..

[sleek radish]

mood.

I don't think you can change the weights via shapekey, but lemme check.

[tulip root]

Please dont tell me that im gonna have to be medium from now on...

[sleek radish]

nah

oh

hm wait no

Was gonna say "disable dynbone, ezpz"

[tulip root]

Yes... Thats the solution when im trying to work my hardest to have these work WITH dynamic bones XD

[sleek radish]

imma stream lemme go put pants on

[tulip root]

As if youve needed them before XD jk jk my god XD

You going for V's priv server or Traders? @sleek radish

[sleek radish]

traders

[tulip root]

https://tenor.com/view/george-lopez-confused-unsure-eh-meh-gif-9297878

Mufi and Josh are in the private one thooo......

[sleek isle]

Scale the bone to 0.

[tulip root]

That didnt help unfortunately. Tried that already. The weights are still there on the bones so yea..

Looks okay now BUT

This happens so I cant do my idles/gestures while the wings are hidden.

Nor would I be able to have the scarf and coat with the dynamic bones since they would still be pulled out of the body with the bones

Like this is seriously on 0. Did it the S+CTRL+Y+Y+0 way and even after that used S so this is as small as it gets

The mesh renderer limit is making me angery now... All this effort and even with this its not gonna be okay...

Ehh... Flip it... Im just gonna make two versions of my avatar. One thats gonna be Quest friendly and then the main one that has to stay as medium since apparently theres nothing I can do that would look even moderately okay.'

Just kills me to know that if I didnt have dynamic bones and if I didnt have 4 mesh renderers I would be on excellent.

[fading verge]

Ay your model is already more optimized than the vast majority so don't worry about it

[sleek isle]

Scale the bone to 0.

[tulip root]

They were all scaled. I seriously did this in pose mode etc. Didnt work. Even asked some of the bigger creators from VRC Traders for help and they said that theres nothing anyone can do about this

Like I seriously manually scaled each bone and then pressed S on them afterwards. Still not good enough thanks to the weights

[sleek isle]

Doubt

[tulip root]

Like the weights will always drag the mesh. I might be able to do something in Unity BUT right now ive spent my entire day on this and im tired. Perhaps something to do with animations and shapekeys together but my brain aint taking this anymore.

[thin terrace]

@tulip root since this is PC you could attach your accessories to a duplicate set of bones (just whatever is needed for the accessory) and then use constraints to tie those to your real aramture while the accessory is enabled. then disable the constraints (and even pose the armature) when it's not in use. might not even need a shapekey in that case, since wings could "fold" inside you. but I'm not sure bones will scale things in unity (bones have starts and ends, not "scales" technically) so you might still need the shapekey

[sage patio]

you can use bones that get scaled down to hide stuff

[kindred pollen]

^ def don't use shapekeys to affect large numbers of polygons

[tulip root]

I did this but it didnt work. Went into pose mode, scaled down the bones, added the pose as a shapekey but the problem stays. Also im not sure if I should touch constraints after hearing of the issues with them and mirrors. Im a perfectionist and it would kill me knowing that theres nothing I can do about dat.

Since it needs to be a part of the same mesh I need to make it into a shape key right?

[sage patio]

I don't mean scaling down the bones to make a shape key, I mean literally making an animation in unity that scales the bone to hide the thing

with the thing weighed to said bone

doesn't work in all cases of course

but for small accessories it works fine

[tulip root]

Its not small accessories that im on about here. My wings are my avatars length in width and when it comes to the outfits then id somehow need to figure out how to separate the weights from the body itself after merging so im able to move the chest area too without moving the bodys chest without a shape key.. I guess I could add extra bones to the front but I dunno if thats gonna work. This is most likely a lot more simple than im imagining it to be but im derping out right now anyway.

Ill try again tomorrow.

[thin terrace]

are the names of those bones wrong?

click on the armature so it's selected, tab into edit mode, click on one of those feet, then on the inspector panel on the lower right, click the tab that looks like a green bone. the name will be at the top

compare to the shin on the same side and so on

there should be consistent R/L or right/left naming

[willow venture]

The clothes I attached are not moving with the mesh

[thin terrace]

when you parented the clothes to the armature, which option did you use?

[willow venture]

I don't remember but I found a tutorial that might help so I will try that once my head is clear

[plucky lynx]

Can someone help me with this bug in unity where when I try to rig the model using the humanoid animation type it just sits behind the model and when I try and use the "muscles and settings" tab when configuring it it just glitches out and goes under the model like in image 2 and ive looked for like 3 days and cant find anyone else that has found a fix to this problem (I have made the armature in blender btw its in screenshots 3 & 4) If anyone knows how to fix this please help me I just want this model to work

its a fresh model btw it hasnt been rigged by anyone else

[mild stratus]

Your mesh doesn't look like it's parented to the rig.

[plucky lynx]

is there an easy way to do that?

[thin terrace]

maybe it's a trick question. it's never been rigged by anyone else... but has it been rigged by D4stro

[plucky lynx]

good one ben

[mild stratus]

I'd recommend looking up a rigging tutorial, as there's more steps after parenting

[thin terrace]

did you do the basic select armature, select mesh, ctrl-p parent with automatic weights?

[plucky lynx]

do you have a link to a good tutorial? I followed this one by CG geek

yeah I did the ctrl p thing

[fierce grail]

@tulip root I didn't read the entire conversation, but from what I get you want to reduce the amount to separate skinned meshes but still have toggleable clothing/accesories. Another option aside from those which have been mentioned is inventory system found in SCSS (if you don't mind swapping shaders on your model entirely): https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/SCSS/-/wikis/Manual/Inventory-System

[rocky atlas]

Hello, just a quick question, I just modified my FBX in blender. I just modified the T-Pose of the avatar (Rotating couple of bones). Is there a way to actualise the pose, of the avatar, in unity once the FBX as been reloaded? In the scene, the avatar keep the last T-Pose it has. Do I have to redo all my avatar settings again with the new FBX instead?

[sage patio]

@rocky atlas click the FBX, go to the rig tab in the inspector, click configure

at the bottom, Pose > reset pose

to reset the pose in the scene, go grab Pumkin's avatar tools from Github

then Pumkin > Avatar tools

drag your avatar at the top, then click Reset pose

[rocky atlas]

Ah! I haven't used pumkin in a while. Didn't know it could do that. Thanks!

[sleek radish]

Any suggestions by people on how to prevent or reduce candy-wrapper effect on twist bones?

Also, of the bone constraints in Blender, what are the most like for like settings for unity?

[queen cloud]

I'm having some confusion with constraints too. The only one's I've figured out how to replicate with Unity are copy transforms.
I want to make a character whose arms have the normal amount of bones (Shoulder, upper and lower arm, hand) but bend in a smooth curve. I can do this in Blender with bendy bones but I don't know how to do it with Unity. Someone suggested using constraints but didn't elaborate further 😦

Nevermind, turns out I can get the desired effect by just weight painting the limbs in a smooth gradient 🙃

[celest bridge]

proportion stuff always throws me for a loop.
what does it mean if my knees bend when i look down? what's too long/too short?

this is in fullbody, mind you

[fervent hornet]

I mentioned constraints but didn't elaborate because its a bad way to do it imo. If you want to use constraints its best if you know where you want the target to go, but since its your arm in VR then FIK is better for it. But in the end, overcomplication of your solution is usually the killer

[fervent hornet]

The main point if twist bones is to reduce candy wrapper, the twist bone should be rotationally constrained to the bone after its parent on the y axis iirc

[sage patio]

^ with a decreased weight value iirc

[fervent hornet]

Yeah if you have weight of 1 it's way to much, at least below .5 is good imo

[wild grotto]

Having a bit of trouble with an avatar im working on. I create eye tracking, seems fine in blender and in unity but when in vrchat, the eyes roll back into the head. i've read up i need to delete eye bones but i don't know which

[jade parcel]

did you preview in unity the part where it shows eye rotation states?? and are the right eye bones selected in unity??

you usually want to adjust the eye rotation in unity under transforms in the avatar descriptor to ensure the eyes don't move around too far or roll backwards

[crisp tendon]

Eye bones need to be straight up, so that would indicate it's using the wrong eye bones

[queen cloud]

Ah yeah, that's fair. And you're right, in the end the solution ended up being much more simple haha

[dense elm]

confused on how to assign a weight paint to a bone

[crisp tendon]

Confused by what ?

[tacit sapphire]

what are those flowy tails called lmao the ones that move with u

[queen cloud]

Dynamic bones?

[fading verge]

I've been having massive rigging issues where I'm trying to combine bagpipes with another rig of a character, the rig for the bagpipes is just so they jiggle around when the player moves.

I'm willing to pay to have someone else combine it for me lol

[slender shale]

help. my model doesn't move at all in vrchat. the model just stays in a t-pose when walking

[fading verge]

its not attached to the bones

[slender shale]

how do i attach it?

i know blender but i don't know unity

it is like in the same tab

[mild stratus]

In blender, you need to parent the mesh to the armature

And also maybe set it to be a humanoid rig in Unity.

First check if moving one of the bones actually moves the model

[slender shale]

how do i set it to human rig?

[mild stratus]

Under the model's import settings.

[slender shale]

where are those 😅

[mild stratus]

Click the model in the project tab, look at the inspector, click "rig" then select the rig type and set it as humanoid

[fading verge]

in blenderrrr

[mild stratus]

If it's not moving in VRChat, it still might be rigged

[slender shale]

it is parented. i checked. both in unity and blender

[fading verge]

ah

well poop

[mild stratus]

Unity import settings

[slender shale]

i don't know what any of that means tbh...

[fading verge]

heyuh the uh

i have a question

if i have two seperate models

one is an item with a rig meant for jiggling, the other is the character

do i have to combine the rigs or can i seperately import then and then just attach the jiggly thing onto the character

[mild stratus]

Click this, then look at the right side of the screen, select "rig" and there should be a drop-down that is currently set to generic.

Set the dropdown to humanoid

Then click apply

Then reupload

[fading verge]

@mild stratus can i do that tho

[mild stratus]

You should combine them

[fading verge]

like in blender

[mild stratus]

Yes

[fading verge]

well fuck thats way too difficult then

[mild stratus]

Unity can't do that

[fading verge]

i ain't gonna be able to do that

way too difficult

at least for me

[slender shale]

ok, i did it. now it says "spine hiearchy missing elements, please map: shoulders."

[mild stratus]

Does the model rig have shoulder bones?

[slender shale]

yes

or... hmmm....

[mild stratus]

They are there

Follow my steps to change the rig type, but instead of changing it, click configure.

Then find the shoulder bones on the left and drag them into their corresponding slots on the right.

Then click apply (you may have to scroll done to see it) and done.

[slender shale]

the bones look like this and i can't select individual ones

these bones also don't exist in the blend file

[mild stratus]

Select the ones labelled shoulder.(side) on the very left side of the screen.

[slender shale]

yeah

then what?

oh left?

[mild stratus]

Drag it from the left, to it's matching spot on the right

[slender shale]

where left?

[mild stratus]

OH, drag it from the hierarchy to the right, your window isn't the default layout

[slender shale]

alright. i'mma try it now

[mild stratus]

Then click apply, then done, then reupload.

[slender shale]

the model moves now like it should, but my head is doing a 180

it's normal in the character select

[mild stratus]

Likely another issue with the rig, or something else. I don't really know much about rigging.

[slender shale]

alright. thanks for the help anyway. it was really helpful

[slender shale]

if anyone knows a solution to my 180 head it would be really appreciated. i'll even get the one who fixes it like a 5$ steam money

[timber token]

i think this is where i put this but I can't get the head to work with Unity

it's supposed to have a bottom jaw

[thin terrace]

Bone roll?

[slender shale]

I can give it a try. Hoe do i do that? I'm not good with unity

[thin terrace]

You probably need a tutorial about bone roll, and you'd fix it in blender

Basically your neck might be turned around backwards in your armature

[slender shale]

Wouldn't that turn the while head? The model looks fine in blender

But i guess i can give it a try

[fading verge]

wow

[sleek radish]

Post pics of armature in blender, and pics of humanoid head setup in unity.

[timber token]

The model came with it's own rig, Also I don't have Blender but I can download it if needed

[sleek radish]

You probably have the jawbone enabled, when it may not need to be

Jawbones are weird

[fading verge]

do yall have a working sdk??

[sleek radish]

Yes?

[fading verge]

mine arent working

[sleek radish]

Weird.

[fading verge]

my dreams of mermaid femboy avatars may come to an end

[timber token]

Okay so heres the default rig

[sleek radish]

LOCATED.

[sleek radish]

Set tongue and eye to none.

Erm

"left and right eye"

Change those to "none"

It's assuming your jaw is an eyeball.

You know how the humanoid rig thing works, ye?

Always always always check the humanoid rig for errors. It's super titchy.

It's not made for what we're doing to it, and it complains by yeeting bones into the wrong slots.

[sleek radish]

Nah, it'll just take some reloading.

Reload unity, check your connection, and log in via browser first. It clears a lot of issues.

[timber token]

It's saying I need to Specify the Arms and Legs, how do I do that?

wait actually I can send what it still needs, one moment

[sleek radish]

Go into the humanoid body and pick the arm and leg bones. They're not selected, likely. Send pic.

[fading verge]

ah, thank you for the reassurance bud.

i wish there was a way to upload from blender without unity

[sleek radish]

Hm. It looks like you have it all in place. Weird.

[fervent hornet]

Where is your avatar descriptor?

[timber token]

Where would I find that? I'm a noob to Unity

[fervent hornet]

Your avatar descriptor should be a component of your main avatar gameobject

Usually what you named the FBX

[timber token]

This model didn't come with an Fbx File

[fervent hornet]

Show a picture of your hierarchy

[timber token]

1 sec

[fervent hornet]

Is your descriptor on that Stormcaller_Standard?

[timber token]

Hold on

heres it opened

[fervent hornet]

Uh why is Armature non expandable? Where is your rig?

[timber token]

I honestly have No Idea. I tried setting up the rig in the Armature but it didn't do it

[sleek radish]

Uh oh. Something broken.

[fervent hornet]

So basically the problem is the descriptor has expections of hierarchy, the format of an FBX is:

Main object <- Your descriptor goes here
Armature
Mesh

I think youve got your rig under the main object, so the sdk looks into your empty armature object and say "well hes got no rig"

[timber token]

how can I fix that?

[fervent hornet]

Personally I would bring whatever you have into blender and export as a conventional FBX, but you can try unpacking and putting all that stuff under a gameobject as siblings and see if that works

[timber token]

ok

So how do I put the Model in Blender?

[timber token]

nvm I got the Model I just need to figure out the Texturing and Rigging

[fervent hornet]

Got it in blender? Those two things should be fine if you just imported it in

[timber token]

I imported the Model, and I can see the texture but how do I put the Texture on the Model?

This is where I'm at

[fervent hornet]

Nah textures dont matter, should be fine once you get it back into unity, just try exporting that as an fbx and see what the hierarchy looks like in unity

[timber token]

ok

ima eat lunch and then check everything, but the Heirarchy is there. I'll be back in a bit

[timber token]

Okay I need to put a Texture on the Unity model, how do I do so?

[fervent hornet]

Same way you did it before, the material should still be in your project

Is the descriptor working as intended?

[timber token]

Yeah

I'm trying to make the Texture Lightmapped how do I do so?

[sage patio]

why do you want to do that?

[timber token]

One, this model has skins that I want to add onto it, and the Model also has a glow in the mouth when I lightmapped it

[sage patio]

glow is typically done through Emission

lightmapping is something done typically in worlds

[timber token]

Ah, ok

What about the seperate Textures?

[sage patio]

could have multiple materials containing each of the texture variants, and then animate a material swap

material swaps don't increase the material count on the model

because what matters is the amount of material slots on the meshes

swapping a material out for another one in the same slot is fine

[timber token]

Okay, so basically the Folder the Model came in has several Varient skins

and I want to use those

[sage patio]

yea, you can do that

but you should focus on getting the model to look right with one variant before worrying about the other ones

[timber token]

Okay, How do I do Emissions?

[sage patio]

depends on the shader you're using

if you just increase the emission value, it'll make your avatar brighter in darker enviroments

if the world has Bloom enabled in its post processing settings, then there will be a "glow" around the model

you most likely don't want the entire avatar to glow though

which is why you use a Mask

a mask is just a black and white image

where it's white, it'll glow

where it's black, it won't

[timber token]

Yeah the folder came with that

But idk how to add it

[sage patio]

what shader are you using?

[timber token]

Where do I find that? In scene?

[sage patio]

on the material

materials are governed by the specified shader

different shaders have different options and features

[timber token]

it's Standard

I can't edit it though, Everythings Grayed out

[sage patio]

yea, you need to create new materials for every material slot. you can get unity to do that for you though

make a new folder, call it Materials

put it whereever makes most sense

click on the FBX, go to the materials tab, click Extract materials, then specify that folder

it'll create new materials for every slot, and assign them to the FBX

then you're free to edit those new materials

[timber token]

okay

Okay so the Avatar has a mask in the Textures, do I have to add it to Materials or?

[sage patio]

can you send a screenshot of all the textures the model came with

[timber token]

K

Oh god those came out smaller than I thought

[sage patio]

okay so it seems there's a base color, an emission mask, either a roughness/AO map, and a metallic map

[timber token]

yeah

[sage patio]

these are things that the Standard shader would let you do, which is nice

however

that smoothness/roughness map will need to be put inside the Alpha channel of the metallic map

and it may or not need to be inverted

a smoothness map is the inverse of a roughness map

so for example

in a smoothness map, 1 is perfectly smooth/reflective, and 0 is rough

in a roughness map, 1 is rough, and 0 is smooth

(1 means white and 0 means black)

[timber token]

ok

[sage patio]

the advantage of using Standard is that it should look the same regardless of if people have custom shaders enabled/disabled

[timber token]

So is the Model good to go or does it still need tweaking?

[sage patio]

you can start by plugging in the textures into the respective slots in the material. like I said, the roughness will need to be packed in with the metallic

I can do that for you if you send those to me

[timber token]

Okay I have a dentists appointment so I'll get back to this later, Thanks for the help

[sage patio]

alright, np

[steady patio]

https://twitter.com/MelindaOzel/status/1430217134496489482

Melinda Ozel (@MelindaOzel)

Been seeing a lot of rigs showcasing eye movement, but many of them lack the subtle changes that make ocular motion interesting.

Things to keep in mind 💡

1️⃣ The plica semilunaris is not stationary! It contracts and stretches with eye movement.
2️⃣ . . . https://t.co/rSP6wAF1xi

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Twitter · Aug 24, 2021, 5:15 PM

[crisp tendon]

Yeah because rigging wasn't hard enough

[fervent hornet]

Time to get your anatomy textbook ruubick, your pectoralis major isnt deforming properly 😔

[crisp tendon]

Imagine if they learned i had no neck

[fading verge]

not REALISTIC enouf

you need more realism !!

[willow idol]

hh i barely know anything about unity

well i may as well try

[pastel vessel]

whats the goin prices on Clothing riggs?

[sleek radish]

Is there a sane way to multiply a bone's rotation to a constrained bone?
So if one bone rotates 10 degrees, the constrained bone rotates 20

[icy jungle]

I don’t know how to fix the rig of the model I was given to use in VRChat, when I use it in game, it does the APose all the time, idk how to fix it, plz help

[sage patio]

you maybe just forgot to set the rig type to humanoid

[icy jungle]

Oh…

Well, I’m stupid, thank you so much

[sage patio]

np

[icy jungle]

More problems, seems the Spine is having problems now, IDK how to fix that

How do I fix this?!

Plz help

I can't publish it either, Idk what to do, plz help me

[sage patio]

not sure where you got this model from, but it clearly wasn't made with vrchat in mind

there are too many bones in the spine

you could just take like every other bone in the spine and merge them to another

can do that easily with the CATS plugin

[icy jungle]

Ok, so when I did that, it always messes up the fingers when it does it

I don’t think the bones are supposed to be like that

[steady patio]

if there was an easy way to access whichever animations drive the eye looking movements (im hoping you can just find them in the base layer or additive or something like that) i would just set up two shape keys for the deformation of the plica semilunaris (or at least the equivalent with highly stylized eyes) and animate them when looking left/right

thats assuming that its something i can just do

i actually have no idea since i havent opened up a base layer animator or an additive layer animator before

[sage patio]

I don't think the eye movement is animation based, it might be script based.

[icy jungle]

It's not registering the neck

[sage patio]

needs to be specified in the rig config

click the FBX, go to the rig tab in the inspector, and click configure

[icy jungle]

Ok, now I found even more problems (Circled)

[sage patio]

uh

why is Neck mapped in the "Upperchest" section lol

should be mapped in the Neck field in the Head section

[icy jungle]

Ok, fixed it, now, about the fingers, some of them are bent, how do I fix them?

Uhh, how do I get out of Inspect mode

[sage patio]

scroll down in the bottom right and click Apply then Done

[icy jungle]

Ty

[hard light]

i wanted to try and make a audio gesture on a freddy character from fnaf but im not to sure where to download models does anyone know where you can find a fnaf model to edit

[sage patio]

could you not spam messages in a bunch of channels? this one in particular isn't relevant.

[hard light]

put this in like 2 other channels stop overreacting

[woeful bough]

Hey I need some help on rigging an avatar. Im making a pc and quest compatible avatar but I need to have everything as one mesh. The only problem is, is that everytime I combine the mesh, the neck bone is unparented. Not even CATS can fix this.

[sage patio]

combining meshes has pretty much nothing to do with the underlying rig

how are you combining the meshes exactly?

[woeful bough]

Originally using ctrl+J but that doesnt work. Then I tried using CATS.

[sage patio]

Ctrl + J is what you need

make sure you have your cursor over the viewport

the position of the cursor on screen makes a difference

[woeful bough]

Still doesnt work

[woeful bough]

Fixed it, I needed to remake the vertex group

[umbral nymph]

help? lol i dont know how to rig these back to the model

[crisp tendon]

Do you have the model opened in blender ?

[umbral nymph]

i believe i still have it yes

[crisp tendon]

Can you show the armature

[umbral nymph]

it doesnt have the tongue or eye bones even mapped

i need help to map them as i never done something like that

[hard spruce]

im in almost the same boat. my avatars mouth wont move. turns out the creator didnt add a bone to it so the mouth wont move.

[crisp tendon]

What kind of avatar is it ?

[atomic harness]

is it imposible to use subdivision surface after the model has been rigged

oh it works now the selecting just works awkward

[hard spruce]

its a custom model. a dragon

[atomic harness]

oh dragon that is probably easy

that would probably be ok with a simple jaw flap

[near grove]

hi, how do i make bones dynamic?

[fading verge]

I think you just download it as a unity file and import in to unity if it doesn’t work im not sure

[near grove]

you talking to me?

[fading verge]

Yea

[near grove]

if so it doesnt have a .unity ver

its an fbx with bones down the heir

[fading verge]

Im not sure i made an avatar once and that all I remember doing for bone dynamics

[fading verge]

Yeah im not sure at that point i dont know much

[sage patio]

@near grove purchase the Dynamic bone package on the unity asset store, then import it in your project. if you want to make a bone chain dynamic, add a dynamic bone component to the root bone, set the "Root" field as the same bone.

[near grove]

Is the dynamic bone thing a free package?

[sage patio]

no

20$

[near grove]

so on her left pig tail do this?

[hard spruce]

That's what's I'm gonna work on tonight. There's no bone in the jaw, so mouth movement doesn't work.

[valid cairn]

No blend shapes either? Thats how mine works

[fading verge]

Their model came with like NOO rig at all

So they have to go through and do it all themselfs

[valid cairn]

Oh, bummer.

[fading verge]

Yeah but it seems like its nearing completion so thats good

[valid cairn]

Yeah doing it with a bone and weight painting shouldn't be too hard

Thats how I had to do it, it was such a pain and took so long lol but end of day it wasn't hard so much as tedious.

[blissful thunder]

i have no idea how to rig an avatar or actually even make one i just unlocked custom avatar creating things today

does blender work

[sage patio]

Blender is what most people use to edit/create models

[digital dagger]

Total noob question: All the tutorials I've found simply are "Step 1: Do the Thing" type.

How do you import the ActorDescriptior thing? I've created a new Unity Project, and imported the SDK3 package into it.

[sage patio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60GVmPZb1EY

[fallen prism]

whenever I go through the steps to rig this avatar, everything but the head moves. is the head not technically attached (the head and the body are separate, but a part of the same thing on the side), and if you think it isn't how do I fix?

actually, better example

[crisp tendon]

join your meshes

[fallen prism]

would I have to make the eyes and eyebrows separate, then join them? because i'm not sure how to join them

[hard spruce]

heres my model. as yo u can see. no mouth bone. i tried the different mouth settings but nothing worked. so im gonna have to learn to add it myself. adding the bone, doesnt seam that hard. but the rest of it i think is gonna be a problem.

also....yall might be able to answer this one. as you can see, he has spines along his head. when the avatars head turns, the spines dont move with the head. they stay in place. so it looks kinda weird.

[queen cloud]

Sounds like the spines aren't parented/weighted to the head/neck bone

[hard spruce]

i barely understood that

[queen cloud]

Do you have the model file? .blend preferably but .fbx will do, send it to me and I will fix it

[hard spruce]

i have both. but ive been working inside of a fbx

if you willling to take alook , iwould be most appreciative

i can send you the file in discord if you wish

[queen cloud]

Yeah, go ahead!

[ivory oyster]

Guys I have a problem, On vr when I look down my avatar begin to float and when I look straight he touch the ground do you know how to resolve that ?

[hard spruce]

Sadly I don't. I'm still learning about all this myself

[digital dagger]

Can anyone help me with weight paints and visemes? Whatever those are?

[crisp tendon]

Help how ? Have you looked at a tutorial ?

[digital dagger]

Are there any tutorials that don't just simply say "Do the thing?"

[crisp tendon]

What else do you usually look for in a tutorial besides it teaching you about a thing ?

[digital dagger]

90% of the tutorials I find are either in a different language, or "First, do this ten step process you were taught in Uni (if you didn't go to Uni for this, you're screwed). Then we want to do this fifty-step process I outlined in a previous video that's outdated. Finally, here's the two steps you actually came here for, but because you have no idea how to use the tools for any of this, I could be speaking gibberish for all you know. There you have it. Like, comment, subscribe"

[crisp tendon]

https://youtu.be/rG82fogtuCg

I've never seen a tutorial the way you describe it, so i'm unsure about what you're specifically looking for, but hopefully this will help

[tribal lion]

Heya everyone, sorry if this isn't the right channel.
I'm trying figure out why I don't see any blendshape sliders in Unity for my model. Anyone knows where I'll have to look at?

[crisp tendon]

skinned mesh renderer, under blendshapes at the top ?

[tribal lion]

What exactly do you mean? Apologies, fairly new to this stuff

A bunch of guides I'm following are all showing sliders for the blendshapes. For some reason I don't have those and I wonder what I'm doing wrong

[crisp tendon]

You you find it in the skinned mesh renderer component of your mesh once it's in your scene

[tribal lion]

But wouldn't that have any effect on the values/options in the VRM Blend Shape component?

[crisp tendon]

idk, just trying to see if you have blendshapes in the first place

[tribal lion]

Probably not

[crisp tendon]

Yep, it doesn't

[tribal lion]

That explains a bunch of things

So I assume I'll have to create all of those from scratch, right?

[wheat hamlet]

anyone know what is wrong with this models hands?

im not a expert in models

[raw jackal]

Most likely a weight painting issue

[wheat hamlet]

how do you fix it

(keep in mind i know 0 about blender)

[raw jackal]

Weight painting isn't super beginner friendly, but if you'd like to give a try there's a tutorial on it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl4qTgwQwYw Basically you want to go through each bone and correct the colors of vertex groups, where red means "100% affected" and blue means "0% affected". (If I click on the 'head' vertex group, the entire head should be red and everything else should be blue). It's definitely an intermediate topic, though, so I would try to learn the basics of blender before you start on this fix.

[fading verge]

when weight painting should i leave preserve volume on or off? whats the default for when it goes to vrc?

[raw jackal]

Leave it on, I think generally you want to leave that on except in very particular situations

[queen cloud]

Does that setting pass on to Unity though?

[orchid echo]

@tribal lion I know this wasn’t your issue, but your blendshapes can ALSO fail to show up if you’ve exported your .fbx with certain modifiers still on it (but unapplied) in Blender. You’ll have to apply or remove them before your blendshapes will show back up.

[tribal lion]

That might also be the issue

If the model has blend shapes to begin with

Thanks for the tip! I'll check it out

[queen cloud]

Make sure "Apply modifiers" is unchecked when exporting from Blender, as that one erases blend shapes.

[tribal lion]

I must've forgotten to uncheck that, thanks a lot! Now it's time to figure out if that fixes it for now

[verbal turtle]

I've accidentally created my whole avatar scene "sideways" in Blender. I've gotten as far as creating the armature. Is there any way to rotate the entire scene 90 degrees? The Symmetrize option for armature is mirroring the bones inside of themselves.

[wind osprey]

You want that option off, if you want what you do in blender to look the same in unity.
Preserve Volume enables dual quaternion skinning, which gives really nice results around joints. Unity doesn't natively support it and VRC have not (and I don't think will) implemented it themselves.

[white cave]

oh no.....

[fading verge]

oh no,,,,, my neck,,,,

[white cave]

i rigged in humanoid

[olive dragon]

Please approach SCP 173 for testing

Uhhhh There seems to be a problem with the gate control system

[queen cloud]

Yes, just select all, rotate it back the right way, and apply all transforms 🙂

[hard spruce]

ok. so thedragon did a fantastic job on helping me fix up the dragon. but now im at a stump. im looking for the voice or i guess its called lipsync. i have the dragon avatar selected, and i hit add component. when i search for lipsync, it just says "new script" i assume i have some thing wrong here...

[hard spruce]

ok. found it. as soon as i added the VRC descriptor , it appeared.,

and i was missing the VRCSDK

[hard spruce]

ok, so a problem i cant solve on my own. the avatars feet clip into the group by about a inch to 2 inches. im in sitting mode right now. how do i fix that? and also, when he walks, he will slowly go superman. like his back side will lift up nad it looks hes flying. haha