animation

[unique night]

for me it says "create animation" i think, i'll have to check when i get home

but thats a massive timesaver 😮

i'll pester you later about it if i'm stuck 😛

as for your gesture idea, this is what i think:

first 2 frames being identical: hand pose, gun position change. activate particle systems (all of them)

then in the particle systems change the duration and start delay accordingly

so they play after another

or you can use the emission control

to fire them at specific seconds

with the base emission rate at 0

thats how i did my gon animation

[glacial pike]

Yeah thatt would work for the particles, but I got a part of my avatar that changes position/rotation, that can't be done unless it's like instant xD

[unique night]

you have to roleplay that 😛

like for my gon animation i have to make the arm positions in person every time

and time my punch with the particles

and sound effects

unless by position and rotation you're doing crazy athletic stuff XD

[glacial pike]

well movement would work yes, hand and lag and head

I got some arm kinda things aside my character that move to point forward xD

[serene lava]

How do you do animations for a non humanoid

[unique night]

@serene lava thats going into more advanced stuff but here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10BuA_ybyXSSXqXuf6cDyPm52VIpqptgyvuRaphcYH0M/edit

[fierce copper]

okay so i made a duplicate

it has a hidden particle effect

made the animation clip

added the particle in it and pressed isactive

now its in the ground

[unique night]

the character or the particle?

[fierce copper]

the character

and the particles are bent aswell

as in, the rotation

[unique night]

the particle is tied to the wrist

[fierce copper]

i cant drag it in a straight line anymore

yah

[unique night]

so you need to adjust the arm

in the timeline

[fierce copper]

at the first frame already right?

[unique night]

add property: animator > anything in here that helps

first frame yeah

and if you want to animate movement you can add more frames

so to move the character out of ground, get the animator:root T property into the timeline

and its the Y value you want to edit

to bring it up

there is the method that Areathy mentioned too

which i havent tried yet

[fierce copper]

yah that method didnt work for me

the moment i create an animation clip on the 'normal' character

it goes into the ground aswell

tried it with another duplicate

[unique night]

thats what i thought too which is why i think i'm misreading the method, like is there something that should be active before going to the animation timeline?

i cant see frames on my original model

without creating an animation

[fierce copper]

@unique night using the root T m,ethod, do the tips of the shoe have to touch the y axis?

[unique night]

that grid you see in the scene? yeah

the root T is a bit buggy though

[fierce copper]

so like this?

but a little bit down

[unique night]

that looks ok

[unique night]

you might have to adjust the legs

[fierce copper]

its still flying though

[unique night]

oh yeah, its a little high

[fierce copper]

yah the viewing point was a bit weird

[unique night]

just adjust the numbers until the ball of the feet are on the grid

[fierce copper]

the ball?

[unique night]

but you might need to adjust the legs too

[clear yew]

if i have a set of animations for a different model set to that model's rig is there an easy way to get that specific animation into the game?
lets say i have a "roll foward" and i want to replace walk forward with it, is there an easy way to do this?

[fierce copper]

not the toes?

[unique night]

whichever works 😃

[clear yew]

since they're both humanoids

[unique night]

the knees look like they are bent slightly too

[fierce copper]

so like this?

and yah the knees are bent

[unique night]

yeah that looks right, but be sure to check it after you straight the legs

[fierce copper]

oooh

[unique night]

you might find the legs going into the ground

but you're on the right track now 😃

@clear yew yeah you can share animations between characters

just need to import the .anim file

if it was animated via unity

[glacial pike]

ok so this is how I did it, I created a dublicate, added a particle system that I set (don't tie it to the correct bone yet), copy paste the keynotes from your default working avatar (just go into the animation tab, copy everything), paste the information into the animation of your dublicate, (the dublicate will break in unity but duo to the pasted information it will fix itself aswell), tie your particle to the bone, just animate what you want to change, (don't forget to add the particle stuff to the animation by adding it's property, finish the animation, copy the particle system and/or anything you did add, paste it to your default character, hide your dublicate, add the animation file to your character override and there we go 😃

[clear yew]

the anim is part of a fbx file

[unique night]

@clear yew dont have experience with that but I know its possible

[fierce copper]

oooooh

wait let me try that

[clear yew]

you can extract it with ctrl+d

😃 thanks google

[unique night]

😄

@glacial pike by animation tab, you mean the timeline for the original model?

[fierce copper]

i cant seem to get the notes from my working one

without it breaking

[glacial pike]

let me see if I can get a schreenshot :3

[unique night]

thanks, i feel so dumb XD

😢

[glacial pike]

https://ibb.co/mHcYCR

[clear yew]

@unique night how do you go about using .anim files from different models with a new one?

[fierce copper]

yah i know what u meant

but how do u get it like that

because the moment i try to get that data

[glacial pike]

In that screenshot I have selected my default avatar, and am on the animation timeline, I copied all that and pasted it in the dublicate :3

[fierce copper]

yah i know how u do it once u can see the data

butr how do u get that data

because its not working

the moment i make an animation clip its empty on the main thing

but if i do anything

it goes into the gorund

[unique night]

@clear yew you want to use the animation override asset

it has idle,walk forward etc

that can be replaced with other animation files

[clear yew]

yeah i got that part.. but putting the other anim on it doesnt seem to do anything but ill try i guess

[unique night]

as long as the rig is the same or similar it should work fine

@clear yew just to make sure, the animation override is plugging into the vrc descriptor component under custom standing anim or custom sitting anim?

[clear yew]

im doing it on standing

[glacial pike]

Well I made sure to have my default avatar working with the animation override and everything, after that I made the dublicate and removed the Animator controller again so that I could make an animation :3

[clear yew]

cause im overriding a walking anim

[unique night]

have you tested the anim file on a duplicate clone?

duplicate it and drag and drop the animation onto it in the heirarchy and then open the animation timeline

and play the animation

[fierce copper]

ill just do it the slow way

atleast i can get that to work

[clear yew]

i tried it on the animation timeline and it didnt do shit

but it works on the original character

[unique night]

the rig is the same?

[clear yew]

the bone names are different

[unique night]

thats probably why

[clear yew]

thats what i was saying bone names are different.. why isnt there a way to just straight up recognize that its a humanoid

[unique night]

the timeline uses animator properties that are tied to the bone names

[clear yew]

and move the humanoids "x" part

[unique night]

vrchat avatars need to be named specifically

when it comes to bones

[clear yew]

so ill have to rename every bone in this anim if i want it to work with vrchat?

[unique night]

i assume so, but i havent imported any fbx animations

i normally just animate in unity, and reimport that anim file between different projects

to use on other characters

hopefully someone who has experience with imported animations from non unity sources can help you with that

@glacial pike i dont know how it works that way for you, jealous that it does XD mines the exact same as Cinque Izumi I never have any frames visible on the original even with the animation override and everything else added

unless we have to press play?

to get the idle animation displayed?

[glacial pike]

I'm not sure why it works, I don't press anything special :/

[unique night]

unity is playing favourites.....not fair

😛

i'll try to see if i can get it working when i get back

it would save so much time and fustration

as i hate the animator.root T property

its so glitchy when trying to adjust in the timeline

[fierce copper]

@unique night

so like this at both sides?

[unique night]

I personally place them into the pose that i am at naturally

so i place them down by my waist

so that when the emote starts theres only a small amount of snapping to that pose

[fierce copper]

oh wait that might actually look better yah

mkay give me a moment

xD

[unique night]

😃

although you're particle will need some adjusting too

as the wrists will be pointing down

you could do something like have that arm move up a little so hes holding his arm out

[clear yew]

@unique night fastest way to add multiple properties to animation section?

i got a lot to add

[unique night]

Areathy's method is you can get it to work

for now i've been adding them in seperately T_T

[fierce copper]

is there a way to make it so that he stretches his arm out forward after which he then fires the ball?

[unique night]

yes

first frame have the start pose

and lets say you want it to take half a second to raise his arm

place the new pose with a new keyframe at half a second in

[clear yew]

then activate the pfx

and move it

[unique night]

then for the particle system, create 2 frames

first one is off

2nd is on

have the 1st one a frame before the arm animation completes

and the 2nd frame on the same point as the arms 2nd keyframes

hopefully that made sense XD

[fierce copper]

eh

partly

i followed it untill u got to the particle system

xD

[clear yew]

@unique night so, i finished.
Is there something extra? (not fingers) position on top and root in the end, i just drag model by xyz arrows to lift above 0
and what to do now?

[unique night]

particle system needs can have 2 frames, first one is setting the active object to off, 2nd sets it on

[finite rock]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0DAHkItoWIijvhEk/giphy.gif (Sorry for asking again, but does anyone know how to fix this bug? (Any animation I try to do that happens)

[unique night]

and just move it in the timeline so they occur at the point the arm finishes moving

[fierce copper]

idk

i

cant

this is

frustrating

even tho it doesnt have the data to go back in the ground

anywhere

it does

[unique night]

its probably the end keyframes

[fierce copper]

it doesnt animate itself to do what i entered the numbers and all that for

no no no

it slowly goes back into the ground

[unique night]

yeah

[fierce copper]

and bends its arms and knees

[unique night]

anytime you add a property

it adds default keyframes at the end of the animation

or 1 second by default

just delete those

hit the F key in the timeline

so it shows all keyframes

without any properties selected

[fierce copper]

yah i did

[unique night]

it shouldnt sink in that case

[fierce copper]

well

it mkagically

reset all my work

from the past 10 minutes

since the default post

is back in the gorund

[unique night]

did you have the play button pressed?

[fierce copper]

no

[unique night]

@clear yew if thats the duration you want that should be fine, just change the shape key for the expression you want if its not in there already

@fierce copper not sure why it reset for you

[fierce copper]

good thing i had a screenshot

i can just fill in all the numbers again

[clear yew]

i mean, 1st frame its pose, but blank from 1st to the end must be empty? and what in the last frame?

[unique night]

for last frame, you can duplicate the 1st ones

you can add stuff in between if you want to have your character move though

i just assumed you wanted just the face expression to change

[clear yew]

oke

yes only face

for now 😄

[unique night]

@fierce copper make sure when animating that the play button at the top isnt blue, anything you do when its like that will not be saved

[fierce copper]

yah i know

its red

[unique night]

also make sure the red record button is active in the animation timeline

oh ok

no idea why it'd erase that

[fierce copper]

idk either

im almost back at where i was

in the default pose, are the wrisst turned with the paml forwards or towards their body?

[unique night]

by default, you mean T pose? or the natural pose you'll have when standing?

[fierce copper]

natural pose

[unique night]

palms facing inwards

with thumbs facing forward

for me anyways

[fierce copper]

ah okay

ty

[unique night]

you can always stand up and see how you're hands are when standing

@finite rock can you screenshot your timeline of that emote?

or what should she be doing?

(will be offline for a bit, leaving work now, but will try to get back to you as soon as i can if you do reply)

[clear yew]

@unique night like this)

[finite rock]

@unique night Should i send pvt?

[unique night]

@clear yew that seems good, the position property at the start doesnt seem like it'll do much though, not sure if thats neccessary

but if works thats fine

just hit the play button to test it out

and see what it looks like

once its playing, switch the window tab from game to scene

so you can view it in the same work space

and then dont forget to stop the play after as any edits during the play preview will not be saved

[clear yew]

oh its jumps a little, maybe its higher than ground

[unique night]

@finite rock if you want, but you might get an answer from someone else if you post it here

@clear yew, yeah you got the hang of it it seems, just keep tweaking and previewing 😃

anyways im offline for a bit, good luck 😄

[clear yew]

@unique night thx you!)

[fierce copper]

fuck

my savior is gone

[mystic umbra]

im fuckiogn dying here

[fierce copper]

so am i

xD

[mystic umbra]

no you dont understand

Fucking mixamo Broke my avatar's upper spinme

So now every dance move I do for custom emotes

I look like im grinding on someo9ne

[clear yew]

nice

[zinc pasture]

I don't see a downside

[clear yew]

sounds like a win in my book

just call in the grind emote instead of the spin emote

[oak fable]

how do i add avatar animations?

should i add a component and import another layer from mixamo?

[mystic umbra]

why did mixamo break my back tho

This is fucking hilarious

[undone glade]

@oak fable Well first what kind of animation?

[oak fable]

i just found some, but let's say dance moves

[ebon gate]

How do I actually add mixamo animations to models?

[undone glade]

I wouldn't know anything about the dancing side, but you're in the right place at least

[mystic umbra]

Im looks for some good animations for dancing

Aside from mixamo

[oak fable]

@ebon gate i think u just need to select one and then download

[undone glade]

Now if you need help getting a Finnish Anti Tank Rifle for your avatar. I got you covered 👌

[oak fable]

and just apply to ur project

[ebon gate]

its not working in game though

I have it here

in the emote 3 slot

should this work?

or am I doing somthing wrong?

[sullen hill]

@ebon gate The custom override should be placed in your VRC descriptor

[trim nimbus]

needs more dynamic 🅱ones

[ebon gate]

@sullen hill Where in there exactly?

[undone glade]

Avatar Descriptor above dynamic bone

[ebon gate]

I mean where in the Avatar Descriptor

[pastel ravine]

yep

[undone glade]

Open it up and there should be a box saying something like standing animation or something

[ebon gate]

This is a dance animation though

[undone glade]

You have two; one for standing animations and one for sitting animations.

[pastel ravine]

ye

[ebon gate]

or do I still put it there?

[pastel ravine]

standing is for emotes

[sullen hill]

Place it in Custom Standing Anims

[pastel ravine]

and stuff

[ebon gate]

OH

I get you

[pastel ravine]

sitting is for sitting emotes

and stuff

for sitting

[ebon gate]

yeah I get it now

thanks

[clear yew]

hanging is for noose emotes

[ebon gate]

Also is 3 dynamic bones to many？

[sullen hill]

nope

[trim nimbus]

depends on how many bones in total are affected

[sullen hill]

Unless you mean you have 3 dynamic bone scripts that have several bones in each

[pastel ravine]

i think iv done worse

its really counting on the pc

as i think its done on cpu cycles

or on the cpu

not gpu

[trim nimbus]

personally I wouldn't go over 20 affected bones in total

[pastel ravine]

so if someone is hitting 100% already

there framerate will be affected

well it will effect everyones fps

somewhat

idk by how much

[clear yew]

@unique night that's great, i'll return to Unity just to fix pose (i want to make it more organic, now its almost like T pose), ingame its look nice anyway)
btw, is there any way to trigger this emotes by hotkeys? not from menu?

[pastel ravine]

for the emotes i have no clue

alos

also if you wanna do a pose

[ebon gate]

The emote limit is 10 seconds right?

[clear yew]

19999 polys + 40 dynamic bone scripts lets go

[pastel ravine]

just do it in blender or your 3d program of choise

[ebon gate]

19998 ploys

mine runs better

by 1

[pastel ravine]

it will convert to unitys humanoid rig

[finite rock]

Hey guys, I'm trying to make a simple animation (just a sound coming out when I activate the animation)

But no matter what I do, it always happens (https://media.giphy.com/media/l0DAHkItoWIijvhEk/giphy.gif)

[clear yew]

cause its 2 frame long?

[finite rock]

So i should do more frames?

[clear yew]

try at least

[finite rock]

Can I just use ctrl c / ctrl v on the first frame and repeat until the end?

[clear yew]

try makin the 1st and the last, left blank frames between

stop recording button and use play in animation to see if you model moving or smht idk

[finite rock]

nop, he gets stuck in the crouching position

[clear yew]

so you need to animate pose

on 1st and last frame (copy 1st)

[finite rock]

Maybe it's because I do not have any VR equipment?

[clear yew]

i've just created my first 30 min ago, i dont have vr to, oh and u overriding emotes 1-8? or another?

[ebon gate]

Is it possible to have sound clips play as an animation happens?

[finite rock]

Emote 1-8

[fierce copper]

@unique night so i did everything but it still clips me into the ground without playing any animation

[clear yew]

@finite rock so go to animation and play with this

this must be your body parts

[finite rock]

Did you have to leave your character in the idle position?

[clear yew]

in 1st frame?

[finite rock]

yeah

[clear yew]

you have to make pose what you want

now probably model kinda sit

so add smth from animator and change numbers

[fierce copper]

nevermind got it to work @unique night

[clear yew]

@finite rock this is mine for example, just simple standing pose, for training

this is about pose, idk about sounds, sry

[finite rock]

I think the pose that is bugging the avatar

Because from what I understand, to activate the sound along with the animation you just need to put the audio source in the animation

[clear yew]

perhaps fill the blank with sound

[finite rock]

ok i'll try both ( your standing pose + sound)

[clear yew]

but try your numbers

[finite rock]

ok

[clear yew]

gl

[vivid hare]

Hi I'm trying to add an animation for a gun to my model right now, the gun came with the mmd file when I load the model up into unity it wont hide when I disable it

[ebon gate]

Emote 5 is dance correct?

Normally

[vivid hare]

The gun model that is

[glacial pike]

@ebon gate yes it is

[sonic tiger]

Does using an emote disable IK? or can you use the emote animation slot to trigger an FX animation and retain control?

[surreal crater]

Hmm, the avatar I made a gun animation for doesnt load/appear for other people. Anyone know why?

[spiral sphinx]

http://prntscr.com/hxo1y3 anyone know why id be getting told this? using a particle from ultimate vfx pack

[chilly girder]

Does anyone know how to change the material of an object in an animation?

[granite sapphire]

https://niyah.eu/i/89530.png

My kanna is stuck dabbing please send help

She may die soon

I did mess up with the animation window i think

And now she's stuck

[fierce copper]

https://i.imgur.com/0TVVIEd.gifv

@unique night

my next project

[unique night]

just got back 😄 oh nice :D
@finite rock any luck with it?

[fierce copper]

@granite sapphire thats what u get fo trying to dab

youve been cursed

[granite sapphire]

Pls no

[finite rock]

trying to test my last attempt

[granite sapphire]

No curse on kanna

[finite rock]

but unity is not helping me

lol

[granite sapphire]

Seriously tho anyway to stop the dabbing and just put back my char in T-pose ?

[sullen hill]

Is there any way to get eye tracking without using Blender?

[ebon gate]

Oh shit I deleted my animation controller

how do I make a new one

[finite rock]

@granite sapphire maybe if u go into your import setting - configure - force t pose?

[granite sapphire]

The thing is that i already forced T-pose on the rigging

I just have some dabbing in the #scene

Oh, well, i can do a new scene maybe 🤔

[fierce copper]

@ebon gate ctrl z

should work

if it wasnt too long ago

[unique night]

@finite rock just as a recap incase no one said this to you already:
emote 1-8 animations need to have their pose set on first frame no matter what. This will stop it from falling into ground and bending arms and legs forward.
as for your sound object, you only need 1 frame to make it active so throw that in at the start with it set to active.
whenever you add a new property into the timeline, unity will create 2 default keyframes (in default pose). 1 at the start and 1 at the end of your animation (if you have no specified end yet, it'll default to 1 second). You want to delete that last frame and copy and past the first frame there once you have completed your start pose. To speed things up, delete the 2nd default key frame thats placed at the end and copy and paste just property to the end, just so the game knows how long your animation is.

[fierce copper]

otherwise its at the top

somewhere

[granite sapphire]

Nvm doesn't change a thing

[spiral sphinx]

http://prntscr.com/hxo1y3 anyone know why id be getting told this? using a particle from ultimate vfx pack

[ebon gate]

Ctrl Z isn't working

[fierce copper]

theres an option somewhere

in one of the tabs at the top

saw someone use it in a guide

not sure which tab tho

[ebon gate]

Whats the option called?

[fierce copper]

should be animation vontroller

[unique night]

@spiral sphinx if its a downloaded particle system, it might have components not supported by vrchat. click on the particle system and delete the destoryonparticles dead, animated light. Doing that however, might change how your particle works

[fierce copper]

ah nevermind @ebon gate

[spiral sphinx]

@unique night ive seen people use them on vrchat though

[fierce copper]

it was animator/animator parameter

[finite rock]

I'll going to remove the sound frames that I put in the middle then

[unique night]

was about to suggest that 😄

your animation looks like it will last 5 frames

so you might want to extend it

how long should it be?

@spiral sphinx seen what? particle systems?

[spiral sphinx]

@unique night http://prntscr.com/hxog3h

[unique night]

or those addons to the particle?

[spiral sphinx]

thats the entire particle

all of it

well, the two

[unique night]

I would recommend stripping as much as you can get away with

so you dont overload the room with lag with too many particles

[finite rock]

@unique night Well I'm just trying to turn on the sound along with the animation

The sound has 5 seconds, so the animation needs to have 5 seconds right?

[unique night]

@finite rock yes, but your animation timeline is not 5 seconds if im reading it right

it should 5:00

[finite rock]

oh

lol

[unique night]

just checking mine to confirm

[finite rock]

I though 1:00 = 1min

[unique night]

na, its in seconds 😛

[granite sapphire]

No one know how i can just stop all the animations and get every models back to humanoid t-pose ?

;-;

[unique night]

@spiral sphinx have you tested how many particles are created from that entire system? select the top one and ctrl click each one and then hit simulate

[finite rock]

@unique night sorry but i think 1:00 = 1min

because now my animation have 5min

lol

[unique night]

it shouldnt be , 1:00 = 1second for me

click on the 0.05 timeline

and tell me what it says in the left side panel just below "animation"

[finite rock]

5

[unique night]

yes, that means its 5 frames only

60 frames per second

[spiral sphinx]

@unique night i figured it out!!

[unique night]

@spiral sphinx nice one, what was wrong with it?

[spiral sphinx]

had to go through and delete each of the things named in certain particles, it still works 100%

[unique night]

nice 😄

@finite rock the animation timeline works in frames, there are 60 frames per second

so 1:00 = 1 second

[finite rock]

Ok, i'll try

[unique night]

thats why your emote was also so quick and glitchy

[finite rock]

ty

[ebon gate]

How do I fix this? im not sure how it even happened

[unique night]

if its non humanoid its fine

its just a warning

[ebon gate]

it is humanoid though

[unique night]

anything yellow is a warning, anything red means it wont upload

click configure

and see if the bones are all correct

[ebon gate]

Everything but upper chest is there

It was fine about half an hour ago

[unique night]

is the skeleton showing red in that panel?

or is everything green?

[ebon gate]

All green

[unique night]

also what about the hand bones?

and head bones?

[ebon gate]

Everything but jaw is set up

[unique night]

(uploads arent working right now by the way 😛 check announcements for info)

if everything is green in all sections of the configure section

im not sure why it wont recognise it

[ebon gate]

Is there anyway to download preivous avatars?

I have a working version without animations in game atm

[unique night]

uploaded ones? i dont think you can

[finite rock]

If I want to do an animation where an image appears in front of my character, do I need to convert this image to fbx or can I put it straight into unity?

[unique night]

no idea if you can do it straight through unity, i've just fbx'd it

[finite rock]

But do you need to create bones in it?

[unique night]

no

you can drag and drop it to your character

into the armature and it will follow your character

it will be parented to any bone you drag it onto

so if you want it to follow your hand, place it in the wrist or hand bone

via the heirarchy panel

[finite rock]

nice

ty

[gloomy kayak]

how do you find animations or do you make them yourself. For example the goku power up

[tepid lantern]

How do i add sound to an animation?

[ebon gate]

Mixamo.com has some animations

[tepid lantern]

Also is there a way to get out of an animation in game

[ebon gate]

not sure if its waht you want though

[finite rock]

@tepid lantern https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4OCpPjzJ-0

[old merlin]

@granite sapphire Ctrl + A in scene hierarchy , deselect object that isn't your avatar's bone, in the inspector window right click the transform component then click "Revert to prefab"

[granite sapphire]

@old merlin should i open everything ? 👀

[tepid lantern]

@finite rock can it not play on emotes?

[finite rock]

It can but u will need to make a custom animation

[old merlin]

@granite sapphire ctrl + a, should also select the child object. but you could use Ctrl + Shift + right arrow, to expand the hierarchy

[tepid lantern]

it has custom emotes

[keen elk]

Alright so. If I make a custom animation in Blender will it work the same way as importing VMDs?

It'll take some time of course but I don't care about that, I'd like to have something unique

[finite rock]

@tepid lantern I can not help you 100%, since I'm trying to make my first animation with sound as well.

[tepid lantern]

Ahhh thanks anyway

[granite sapphire]

@old merlin ctrl A is doing weird stuff but i think i understand what i have to do

Thanks ;-;

[finite rock]

@tepid lantern You can create animations with sound, and then replace the default emote inside vrchat

[tepid lantern]

Ah, so how would i add the sound in?

ill figure it out

[sonic tiger]

I had to step away, can anyone confirm if VRChat stops calculating IK when an emote is triggered?

[clear yew]

does anyone have the value's for thumbs up?

[sonic tiger]

I would like to tie an effect to an emote without killing my IK

[finite rock]

@unique night Now my avatar is invisible when I activate the animation

lol

[hazy palm]

So I am trying to put a sword into an animation,

but when I go into VRChat, it turns out my hand is twitching

anyone know the fix?

[unkempt moat]

🤔 Someone give me a fun thing to animate
What does my avatar need

[unique night]

@finite rock thats really odd XD is their an active object property in the timeline for the avatar?

[unkempt moat]

@hazy palm You sure the two frames are the same with handmovements?

[clear yew]

@hazy palm Did you copy the first set of keyframes and copy them two 0:01 and delete the 2nd keyframes

[finite rock]

@unique night idk maybe the sound?

[hazy palm]

https://gyazo.com/2f982dc8db50025e67e606fd1cfa4422

[tepid lantern]

Is there any way to loop an animation for like 6 mins or something?

[unique night]

@finite rock could you show me a screenshot with the timeline again with your heirarchy panel visible too?

[finite rock]

ok

[unkempt moat]

@tepid lantern You can make an animation loop forever but for just 6 minutes? No idea

[tepid lantern]

How forever?

And how do you stop it?

@unkempt moat

[unique night]

animation loop via animation component

and i think you can turn off that component

in the animation timeline

but you cant do it for 6 minutes

[tepid lantern]

i mean like

in game

how would you stop it

if it was an emote

[unique night]

make it a gesture

[unkempt moat]

As an emote?
Well so far i know it only works with gestures

[unique night]

so it could be on by default

[tepid lantern]

ah fuck i dont have vr lol

[unkempt moat]

Ow well then it wont work so far i know xD

[unique night]

how about 2 different avatars?

one with it on and one with it off

[tepid lantern]

eh too much effort for a shitty joke lol

[unique night]

XD

[rich scarab]

Hey guys - What reasons would cause an animation to lock out other hand gestures for like 4 ~ 5 seconds?

[unique night]

its actually less effort than having to animate it 😛

[tropic hazel]

I have a question about custom idle animations, specifically CrouchIdle.
I wish to make my character sit on a broom when I sit down/crouch in VR but I was wondering at what point of crouching does it count as a crouch, also if I move my head around is it going to cancel the animation over and over unless I'm perfectly still?

[unique night]

just duplicate the avatar, turn animation component on , upload

[tepid lantern]

ive already got emotes n stuff

[unique night]

😛

@finite rock I would place the audio source in armature so its guarenteed to follow your avatar, I dont animate with the Position property

not sure if that could be causing the issue

what about the properties further below in the timeline?

and are the frames identical at start and end?

like what happens when you drag through the timeline?

[tropic hazel]

If no one has any idea I'll probably just mess around and see if it looks okay or not. hahaha

[finite rock]

let me check

[unique night]

@tropic hazel I'd like to know how that works too

im assuming its first frame counts as crouch

and the game just switches either instantly or animates into it by itself

but the first frame of the crouch animation would be the moment that crouch is active

you can actually go deeper into the animation system and an intro animation

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10BuA_ybyXSSXqXuf6cDyPm52VIpqptgyvuRaphcYH0M/edit

that tutorial goes into detail about that

[finite rock]

by the way my avatar was sinking on the ground before, so I got the root T of the idle animation (default) and put it in my animation.

[tropic hazel]

Oh boy hahah I'm probably getting myself into something way over my head

[finite rock]

maybe this is causing problem

[unique night]

Root T is what I use to position avatar on ground

the Y value specifically

[chilly girder]

Anyone know how I could remove a game object at the 10 second mark of the keyframe? I want to have the item in my right hand disappear but keep the item in the left hand.

[unique night]

same active object property

and turn it off by unchecking it

just make sure you have a frame just before it that is on

so at frame 9:59: active object = on
at frame 10:00: active object = off

but you cant keep an item

from an emote

you can only keep an item through gestures

[chilly girder]

okay that's what I was thinking, I tried unchecking the game object on the 3rd keyframe but it stays throughout all of them.

[ebon gate]

is 10 seconds the hard cap?

[unique night]

yeah

[ebon gate]

How many frames would that be?

[unique night]

600 (but then i remember someone saying 300 frames/10 seconds is the cap, which i found odd back then)

[tepid lantern]

Anyone know why i cant add properties to my animation?

[unique night]

any property in general?

is it a read only animation?

[tepid lantern]

uhhhh

idk

[unique night]

or a brand new custom one

is it a blank animation?

[tepid lantern]

i was given it

no

[unique night]

and dragging it to a clone model doesnt allow you to edit?

[tepid lantern]

didnt try that

nope

oh wait

it does

audio source in the way

[finite rock]

wrong print

sorry

[tepid lantern]

yea not working

fug

[unique night]

thought i blacked out then XD

the image just disappeared

and i was like, was i imagiining it XD

[finite rock]

@unique night now

lol sorry

[unique night]

ooh no wonder

your character is below the ground

the ground it that grid you see

in that screenshot its above the character

make sure the balls of her feet rest on that grid

adjust the Y value in animator.root T

its a bit trial and error adjust that value, so keep putting in random numbers that get you closer to the ground

atleast for me anyways, if i put 1 in, it goes to 0.2242342 or something

so i usually put in 5 and work down from there if the character is floating above

[finite rock]

ok, But "the ball" of sound does not go up along with the avatar

[unique night]

you can position that yourself on the original model

no need to animate that

just position it to the correct position before uploading the avatar

[finite rock]

ok

[unique night]

just make sure the record button isnt active

[exotic ember]

would this be the place to ask about eye tracking issues

[clear yew]

@unique night just tested the sound thing in the hub and apparently someone could hear it

but i needed to fix the animation on the thumbs so im reuploading it, would that mean the sound wont work anymore because of what we were talking about before or would it be fine to update?

[unique night]

no the sound should be fine

[clear yew]

i havent changed the audio only the thumbs

alright

[unique night]

if the settings worked previously

but glad its working 😄

[clear yew]

yeah i pressed the thumbs up and it was like "WOOMY" and someone said "SPLATOON? WHERE ARE YOU?"

so i know its working

XD

[unique night]

@exotic ember eye tracking is automatic aslong as you have the correct eye bones and the eye mesh is merged with the face and called body

oh i can watch that sound effect now

[exotic ember]

My problem is that the eyes look downwards and the visemes start moving without any sound being processed

[unique night]

wont get any weird looks at office XD

[clear yew]

xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs0lGmmRFEc

basically me right now

[unique night]

XD

[finite rock]

done?

[clear yew]

Is that kizuna ai?

[unique night]

@exotic ember oh, not sure why it would do that. are your eye bones in the correct positon when created?

[finite rock]

yes

[exotic ember]

@unique night im more annoyed by the visemes freaking out when my mic isnt even enabled

[unique night]

@finite rock yeah looks like that should be good

@exotic ember you could try recreating the avatar in a new project to see if it works?

it could be a server issue

that messed it up

during upload

ooor it could be server issues that causing havoc on the visemes

[finite rock]

now i should stop recording and move the sound effect?

[unique night]

yeah 😃

[clear yew]

kizuna ai is adorable btw

[unique night]

but make sure you do it on the original model

[exotic ember]

@unique night i've reuploaded it several times now, would doing a new project create that much difference?

[unique night]

not sure if it would

just an idea

but it could be something wrong with the model itself then

is it self made or an mmd or something?

[exotic ember]

ripped game model that I rigged and skinned

i'd take a quick gif but I dont have the tool for that

[unique night]

i use maya (in case you do too), but if its blender Im not sure what the process is with that

[devout loom]

anyone here good with particles?

[exotic ember]

blender

[unique night]

but in maya, theres a specific order that everything should be done in

[exotic ember]

I have the correct bone hierarchy with names if thats what you mean

[finite rock]

@unique night Should I leave the audio source enable?

[unique night]

I mean the order of elements on the model, so in maya I have to make sure that shape keys are positioned below the rig (in inputs). NOt sure if blender does anything similar so I might just end up confusing you unneccesarily

@finite rock no, leave it off by default

the animation will turn it on

[finite rock]

ok

[unique night]

want some sound settings btw?

or did the sound work fine before?

[exotic ember]

ah blender doesnt have that I believe

[hazy palm]

So I got the animation working,

but I do not see my sword

[unique night]

yeah, im not much help with blender, never used it. Hopefully someone can help you out with that

[hazy palm]

Is there a fix to where I can actually see it?

[fierce copper]

@unique night so my animation is working but it plays for like a second or so

[hazy palm]

wait

nvm

[fierce copper]

the rune animation thing

[exotic ember]

think I found the issue

[fierce copper]

it plays for like 2 seconds

[unique night]

@fierce copper how long should the animation be?

[fierce copper]

eh

as long as possible

so 10 i guess

[unique night]

add a keyframe at 10:00

for any property

[fierce copper]

yah thats what i did

[unique night]

oh

[fierce copper]

this is whatt it looks like

with it activating at 1 and finishing at 9

[finite rock]

Is that right?

[unique night]

thats 10 frames

10 seconds is 10:00

[fierce copper]

wait

shouldnt it be 1:00 then

[unique night]

@finite rock she looks off center

[fierce copper]

or where do i have to end?

[finite rock]

yeah

[fierce copper]

this is with samples set to 60

[unique night]

make sure X and Z are 0

my samples are 60 too

animation timeline works in frames

1:00 = second

[fierce copper]

ah

[unique night]

60 frames in a second

[fierce copper]

yah

ty

[unique night]

@finite rock x and z values in Root T i mean

[finite rock]

Ok

[unique night]

you want here standing at the origin point on the grid where the 2 lines cross eachother

the 2 main lines

[finite rock]

Is it normal when I change the value in Root T, it does not stay in the value I place?

[fierce copper]

@unique night

like this?

[unique night]

@finite rock yeah thats normal, its annoying for me too 😛

[finite rock]

lol

[unique night]

go for an extreme number and work your way back

@fierce copper yeah that looks right

[static goblet]

I have a cloth physics cape on my avatar, but it is only visible to me, not other players. also, when it spazzes out when looked at after not looking at it and moving. Anyone know how to get cloths to work in vrchat?

[unique night]

@finite rock with the root T values, its like I put 1 into the value and it changes to 0.2242242 or something random

@static goblet is it using dynamic bones?

the dynamic bone plugin specifically

[static goblet]

No, it uses unity's cloth physics. I was told by two separate users on here that it was supported

actually 4, but two separate times 😛

[unique night]

oh wasnt aware it was supported, its a first for me

dynamic bones definitely work though

[static goblet]

Well it shows for me, but not for other players, so it's at least supported to some degree. I don't have dynamic bones.

[finite rock]

@unique night For me when i put 18,2638 = -0,0001 but when i put 18,2639=-8,634 wtf

[unique night]

😮 thats too extreme

XD

I was talking like 5 or 10

XD

[hazy palm]

So I got my sword to be in game where I can see it, but now it is stuck on my hand ._.

How can I put it on an gesture.

[unique night]

gestures are 2 frame animations

[finite rock]

Well if i put 5 = -9

[hazy palm]

I have the animation made alreadyt.

[unique night]

both frames have to be identical

place it into gesture file

animation override i mean

[hazy palm]

I did

[unique night]

but the gesture slot you want it to be in

you have vr? just to make sure

[hazy palm]

I indeed do

[heady sundial]

Created an animator (which doesn't play unless I push play in the animation window) so the seal doesn't rotate. Any ideas?

[unique night]

then it should work, is the sword off by default on your model?

[hazy palm]

yes

it is connected

[fierce copper]

anyone having issues uploading?

[hazy palm]

I did earlier

[heady sundial]

See #announcements @fierce copper

[fierce copper]

yah but it worked like 10 minutes ago

for me

so i assumed it was fixed

[heady sundial]

Degraded usually means "stuff is up and down"

[fierce copper]

guess i was lucky and got through somehow

yah

[unique night]

@finite rock was your avatar original 0,0,0 in position?

you can check on the inspector

[hazy palm]

Its connected but I dont know why it doesnt appear when I gesture.

[finite rock]

@unique night inspector?

[hazy palm]

the tab

[unique night]

@hazy palm that looks like its on without the animation

[hazy palm]

on the left

[unique night]

judging by the heirarchy panel

[hazy palm]

do I hide it

[unique night]

yeah

[hazy palm]

Ok

its hidden now

[unique night]

its turned on with the first frame of the animation

[jaunty gust]

woah that oudlane shade

i love it

outline*

[hazy palm]

They are the same

I changed the Object from 0 to 1

I think that is what it was

[unique night]

it says model, is that the name of the sword?

[hazy palm]

yes

[unique night]

what about master sword in the heirarchy?

[finite rock]

@unique night is it right?

[hazy palm]

wdym

oh

That is the model

the master sword

[unique night]

@finite rock it should be 0,0,0 whenever you're uploading an avatar

[hazy palm]

wait

[unique night]

on position

[hazy palm]

so I take it out of the file?

I think that was it

._.

I am stupid

[unique night]

it should say "name of object" : object is active for that property

[heady sundial]

Anyone know why this happens?

[hazy palm]

it does

[heady sundial]

Legacy is literally killing me

[unique night]

click animation file, go to inspecter

turn it to debug mode

and turn legacy on

then return to normal inspecter

and turn wrap mode to loop

@hazy palm I might be getting confused then because the heirarchy panel and your animation timeline are showing different names

[heady sundial]

Thanks @unique night, but now it throws this...

[unique night]

what is the animation component applied to?

the whole avatar or a specific mesh?

[heady sundial]

A quad with an image as a texture

[hazy palm]

Should I put the red line on the first or second heirachy

[heady sundial]

Literally all it's supposed to do is turn the quad

[unique night]

@hazy palm what do you mean by red line? I;m referring to this screenshot:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390924344475254792/400010186137272320/09b37b566769a203f582b27b60bd7063.png

where it says master sword

that should be the object being turned on (and off by default)

[hazy palm]

I know

Im probably confusing you

rn

[unique night]

I''m confused why it doesnt say "master sword : Game Object.is active" in your timeline

[hazy palm]

model is the master sword

its named model by default

Well great

I named it Master sword

[unique night]

@heady sundial hmm, im not sure why it wont work. whats the timeline like?

[hazy palm]

and it turned white

[heady sundial]

One moment. I got frustrated and bombed it. The whole using clones is silly

[hazy palm]

to prevent me from screwing I reset

[exotic ember]

For eye tracking in the mirror, does it normally look down?

[unique night]

i get cross eyed sometimes

[hazy palm]

pretty sure because your looking at yourself

[exotic ember]

okay so its normal then sweet

its hard to test it if its bugged in the mirror

[finite rock]

@unique night After I finished my animation, my avatar stayed like this

[hazy palm]

Crap

Why is my mastersword white.

[unique night]

@finite rock did you animate on the cloned model or the original?

[hazy palm]

loks like the origional

original*

[jaunty gust]

yeah

owo

[finite rock]

cloned

[unique night]

oh

[hazy palm]

oh

[jaunty gust]

oh

[unique night]

XD

[hazy palm]

top right

unclick that checkmark

then go to your original model

and click the top right

But now I got a problem

[unique night]

oh, just noticed you have "untitled" in your animation controller

[hazy palm]

me?

First

I gotta figure out

[unique night]

no sildek

[hazy palm]

how to make my swor colorful again

[finite rock]

hmm

[unique night]

@hazy palm could you screenshot whats inside the mastersword object on the heirarchy panel? it has a little arrow implying theres objects inside it

[finite rock]

lol

[exotic ember]

so do most people make the animations themselves in blender or unity

[unique night]

no i mean click the arrow next to the name master sword

@finite rock are there any keyframes or animation frames on the original model?

[finite rock]

ohhhhhhh

[finite rock]

No, but maybe I started an unintentional animation

Back to the beginning

aaaaaaaa

[unique night]

damn 😦

[hazy palm]

I got it colorful again >:)

now just the animation

[fierce copper]

@unique night do u happen to know where some of those peopl eget those like

galaxy effects

as in they turn their entire surroundsings into a dar galaxy

[unique night]

@hazy palm

[fierce copper]

with planets and stuff

[unique night]

i meant that little arrow

[unique night]

@fierce copper not sure on that, thats more advanced stuff

[hazy palm]

@fierce copper Its a shader

wait

nvm

I thought you were talking about body textures

Pretty sure thats all made in Blender.

[unique night]

@hazy palm thats what confuses me with your animation timeline, i dont understand why it says model : active object. is there not an active object property for "master Sword"?

[fierce copper]

@unique night ah okay thats a sham,e, ty tho

[hazy palm]

let me show the model

[fierce copper]

ill see if i can find some stuff

[tired hazel]

does anyone know what gesture is when we pres the trigger on touch

[hazy palm]

its named model

so it shows up as

model

[plush meadow]

Rename with f2?

[finite rock]

I'll probably go crazy if after all this, this animation does not work

[unique night]

@hazy palm but its called master sword in the heirarchy panel?

[hazy palm]

I named it that

[unique night]

if i rename something in that panel, it updates in the properties

[hazy palm]

in the heirachy panel

[heady sundial]

So let me make sure I have this right:

1. Create a copy of your avatar
2. Create the animation on the copy
3. Create an animator on the original
4. Link the animation to the animator
   --Complete--
   right?

[unique night]

just tested it

i changed body to test

and it changed to test. active object

in animation timeline

[hazy palm]

hm

[unique night]

im wondering if thats why you can disable and enable the sword

[hazy palm]

because the sword model?

maybe if I change the sword model

[exotic ember]

gesture override is just for weapons and had gestures right, the more cool shit is emote override?

[hazy palm]

yes

[unique night]

@heady sundial turn it to legacy and wrap mode to loop

[hazy palm]

pretty sure

@unique night I can screenshare

[plush meadow]

What does that do? @unique night

[heady sundial]

@unique night Okay...

[unique night]

@exotic ember this is all gesture animation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu84R7tXA4Q

[plush meadow]

Does it apply to prop animations though?

[exotic ember]

@unique night yeah but I wanna do a fucking dio road roller and time stop

that involves moving the whole character so I doubt gesture would work

[unique night]

you cant do body animations

but you can trigger objects

[exotic ember]

really at all?

[unique night]

so you can have another model with its own animation components

[exotic ember]

and then just phase out the current non animated model?

[unique night]

body animations on gestures are limited to 2 frames that have to be identical

[fierce copper]

@unique night i found a skybox asset, could this be used on an emote to cover the air around me and other people?

or doesnt it work that way

[hazy palm]

I just put another model into the game

I changed the name

nothing happend

[tired hazel]

@unique night is the handopen gesture override a idle stance or button related?

[unique night]

@tired hazel i think its just open hand in general, no finger sclosed or anything

[scenic crag]

Bit of a weird question but what does "Fall" correlate to in VRC on the CustomOverride Controller?

[tired hazel]

i am missing one gesture then

on touch when i press trigger

[heady sundial]

Maybe Quads just can't be animated.

I mean it worked on the clone.

[hazy palm]

im confused now

why doesnt it work?

[finite rock]

@scenic crag When is your character falling?

[heady sundial]

@hazy palm you did the Lazoi tutorial right?

[hazy palm]

I have

[scenic crag]

@finite rock Ohh that makes sense, thanks!

[finite rock]

well i don't know to be honest

[unique night]

@hazy palm i genuinely believe its to do with the name of the object. dont change the name when you put it on your character and see if that works. your keyframes seemed correct apart from the name

[scenic crag]

Sounds about right

[hazy palm]

so do you want me to rename it model?

[heady sundial]

Well the active state just needs to be toggled on in the animator which saves an animation in the root folder, then you just associate the animation with one of the emotes in the animator, then stuff the emote animator in the custom animation slot

Renaming stuff after the animation is complete will just ruin the animator, right?

[unique night]

@hazy palm yeah try that

the timeline is looking for model when playing

[hazy palm]

Just did

[unique night]

and make sure that the sword is turned off by default

[heady sundial]

Yes, the checkbox in the inspector

[gentle arch]

Can you not bind the face changes to an emote on PC?

[unique night]

the top tick box next to the name in inspecter

[hazy palm]

wow.

[heady sundial]

@gentle arch animations are VR only pretty much

[hazy palm]

I litterly

[gloomy kayak]

So i got my model down to 19345 tris, would this be low enough to add some animations?

[hazy palm]

just noticed

it can be turned off by default

I have been making it disapear from the actual model

[unique night]

oooh XD

[gentle arch]

I thought so. I got it to do it once but I'm not really sure how I did it lol

[hazy palm]

from "model" instead of "default"

[lilac plover]

Hi i have a question is there a way to trigger effects without a vrhead set?

[hazy palm]

Dont believe so

[unique night]

yeah i was fixated on the master sword name but default would work too 😃